Podcast appearances and mentions of Edward Snowden

Thank you so much for listening to the Bob Harden Show, celebrating nearly 14 years broadcasting on the internet. On Friday's show, we visit with the Producer of the podcast “Undoctrination” for FEE.org, Maggie Anders, and the episode about Edward Snowden – traitor or hero. We visit with the Senior Economist for the Competitive Enterprise Institute Ryan Young about tariffs interest rates, regulations, and the economy. We also visit with Professor Larry Bell about “climate change” and the growth on Antarctic Ice. We have terrific guests on Monday's show including historian Marc Schulman, columnist Jon Miltimore, and author Jim McTague. Access this or past shows at your convenience on my web site, social media platforms or podcast platforms.

Katie speaks to filmmaker Oliver Stone and author and JFK researcher Jim DiEugenio about the JFK files. Then she speaks to author and journalist Nick Bryant who published Epstein's black book about Epstein and Epstein victim Virginia Giuffre, who died by suicide last month. Finally, Katie plays a clip of Gabor Maté talking about surviving the Holocaust and the genocide in Gaza. The clip comes from a talk he gave in New York City on May 3. For the full discussion with Nick Bryant, please join us on Patreon at - https://www.patreon.com/posts/patreon-nick-128330783 Oliver Stone is an Award-winning director, producer, screenwriter whose films include , Snowden, Savages, Untold History, Platoon, Wall Street, JFK and the documentary JFK Revisited. He is the author of Chasing the Light. Jim DiEugenio is a researcher and writer who focuses on the political assassinations of the 1960s, including the killing of JFK. He is the author of two books, Destiny Betrayed (1992/2012) and The JFK Assassination: The Evidence Today (2018), co-author of The Assassinations, and co-edited Probe Magazine (1993-2000). Nick Bryant is a journalist, author and activist. Nick published Jeffrey Epstein's black book in 2015 and is the founder of Epstein Justice, which you can find at https://epsteinjustice.com/. Nick is also the author of "The Franklin Scandal: A Story of Powerbrokers, Child Abuse, and Betrayal" and "The Truth About Watergate: A Tale of Extraordinary Lies and Liars." Gabor Maté is an internationally renowned speaker with expertise on addiction, trauma, childhood development, and the relationship of stress and illness. For his groundbreaking medical work and writing he has been awarded the Order of Canada, his country's highest civilian distinction, and the Civic Merit Award from his hometown, Vancouver. His books include "In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts: Close Encounters With Addiction"; "When the Body Says No; The Cost of Hidden Stress"; "Scattered Minds: The Origins and Healing of Attention Deficit Disorder"; and most recently, "The Myth of Normal: Trauma, Illness & Healing in a Toxic Culture." He is also an outspoken advocate for Palestinian rights and critic of Israel. He and his parents survived the Holocaust but his grandparents were killed. As he relates in this clip, his mother handed him of to a Christian woman who was a complete stranger on the street in Budapest. She asked the stranger to bring him to other family members who lived in relative safety. ***Please support The Katie Halper Show *** For bonus content, exclusive interviews, to support independent media & to help make this program possible, please join us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thekatiehalpershow Get your Katie Halper Show Merch here! https://katiehalper.myspreadshop.com/all Follow Katie on Twitter: https://x.com/kthalps Follow Katie on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/kthalps/

Esports podcast specializing in feeding and Overwatch. Thank you to Factor Meals for sponsoring today's episode!Be sure to visit https://FactorMeals.com/OVERWATCH50OFF for 50% off and free shipping!Support Plat Chat and become a member today!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC38VAZEq3chAIPf4i2AIq7Q/joinFeaturing Jonathan "Reinforce" Snowden, Kevin "AVRL" Walker, Jack "Jaws" Wright, and Connor "Avast" Prince.

Laura Poitras and Glenn Greenwald prepare to break their story. Edward Snowden goes on the run.Be the first to know about Wondery's newest podcasts, curated recommendations, and more! Sign up now at https://wondery.fm/wonderynewsletterListen to American Scandal on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. Experience all episodes ad-free and be the first to binge the newest season. Unlock exclusive early access by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial today by visiting wondery.com/links/american-scandal/ now.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The Art of Value host JJ breaks down how Elon Musk is saying he's stepping back somewhat from running his Department of Government Efficiency, but is DOGE responsible for illegally taking government data with the aim of building a vast “database of ruin” for a surveillance state? This is exactly what whistleblower Edward Snowden warned about more than a decade ago. Related episodes:Tesla Whistleblower: Elon's a "Vindictive Monster! Pure Evil" https://youtu.be/nggnt9Lm6EgDOGE Whistleblower Exposes Elon Musk & Gets Threatened  https://youtu.be/zRg65XYwiXwElon Musk's Lies & Hidden Agenda Unraveling https://youtu.be/Wmivylie4oUNew! The Art of Value: Politics channel  https://www.youtube.com/@TheArtofValuePolitics Referenced content:‘This Is What We Were Always Scared of': DOGE Is Building a Surveillance Statehttps://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/30/opinion/musk-doge-data-ai.htmlEdward Snowden - Turnkey Tyranny https://youtu.be/tzQegCZBqnIAlleged NSA whistleblower warns of "turnkey tyranny" in U.S. | CBS News  https://youtu.be/BZO3hlTK9zkIt's official! Musk leaving as Trump thanks him amid crash for Tesla and markets |MSNBC  https://youtu.be/ZQwrUUh-YsYTo support The Art of Value channel, become a member https://www.youtube.com/@TheArtofValue/joinDisclaimer: I am not a financial adviser and nothing in this content is financial advice. This content is for general education and entertainment purposes only. Do your own analysis and seek professional financial advice before making any investment decision.

The Art of Value host JJ breaks down how Elon Musk is saying he's stepping back somewhat from running his Department of Government Efficiency, but is DOGE responsible for illegally taking government data with the aim of building a vast “database of ruin” for a surveillance state? This is exactly what whistleblower Edward Snowden warned about more than a decade ago. Related episodes:Tesla Whistleblower: Elon's a "Vindictive Monster! Pure Evil" https://youtu.be/nggnt9Lm6EgDOGE Whistleblower Exposes Elon Musk & Gets Threatened  https://youtu.be/zRg65XYwiXwElon Musk's Lies & Hidden Agenda Unraveling https://youtu.be/Wmivylie4oUNew! The Art of Value: Politics channel  https://www.youtube.com/@TheArtofValuePolitics Referenced content:‘This Is What We Were Always Scared of': DOGE Is Building a Surveillance Statehttps://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/30/opinion/musk-doge-data-ai.htmlEdward Snowden - Turnkey Tyranny https://youtu.be/tzQegCZBqnIAlleged NSA whistleblower warns of "turnkey tyranny" in U.S. | CBS News  https://youtu.be/BZO3hlTK9zkIt's official! Musk leaving as Trump thanks him amid crash for Tesla and markets |MSNBC  https://youtu.be/ZQwrUUh-YsYTo support The Art of Value channel, become a member https://www.youtube.com/@TheArtofValue/joinDisclaimer: I am not a financial adviser and nothing in this content is financial advice. This content is for general education and entertainment purposes only. Do your own analysis and seek professional financial advice before making any investment decision.

Esports podcast specializing in feeding and Overwatch. Support Plat Chat and become a member today!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC38VAZEq3chAIPf4i2AIq7Q/joinFeaturing Jonathan "Reinforce" Snowden, Kevin "AVRL" Walker, Jack "Jaws" Wright, and guests Spilo, Ocie, and Apply.

Edward Snowden lands a job with the NSA. But when he stumbles on a shocking government secret, Snowden has to face a moral dilemma.Be the first to know about Wondery's newest podcasts, curated recommendations, and more! Sign up now at https://wondery.fm/wonderynewsletterListen to American Scandal on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. Experience all episodes ad-free and be the first to binge the newest season. Unlock exclusive early access by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial today by visiting wondery.com/links/american-scandal/ now.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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What’s Trending: ABC cancels Roseanne. // Jason trolled Nikkita Oliver with a blog post about her tweets. // GUEST: Chef Brendan McGill talks about his attempt to serve a cannabis-infused “wellness drink” and the fact that King County and Kitsap County both stopped him. // Democratic veteran running for congress says “the weapons I carried in combat should not be in our streets.” Edward Snowden doesn’t really buy the idea that Trump colluded with Russians.

Esports podcast specializing in feeding and Overwatch. Support Plat Chat and become a member today!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC38VAZEq3chAIPf4i2AIq7Q/joinFeaturing Jonathan "Reinforce" Snowden, Kevin "AVRL" Walker, Jack "Jaws" Wright, Connor "Avast" Prince.Timestamps:00:00 Intro / SLMN-less production!!07:00 non-Member Question of the Week (THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING US!)08:45 The Amazing Production and Event surrounding Champions Clash!24:50 Tournament Bracket & Plat Chat Predictions Recap44:00 GRAND FINALS! Team Falcons vs. Crazy Raccoon1:44:15 NTMR UPSETS Crazy Raccon and secures 3rd!2:08:30 Once Again exit after loss to CR - Was 4th a good achievement?2:18:15 The EMEA Cope - Virtus Pro loses to Once Again & CR2:34:30 Spacestation Gaming exit 5-6th after loss to Once Again - Disappointing?2:47:00 Team CC & Al Qadsiah exit in last place - Farway name lore2:56:20 LIP is the undisputed GOAT of Overwatch Esports?3:03:50 Bren's Player of the Week

Do the Dew, weirdos!   Welcome to another episode of KEEP IT WEIRD, the podcast for all things strange and unusual, mysterious and maddening, freaky and "freakay" and everything in between.     Everytime we get together we chat about something WEIRD and this week is DOLPHIN FREE!!    The gals start off with some current events as they discuss HBO's "Hollywood Demons" series and share their opinions on the Blue Origin all female space flight that took place earlier this month.  Spoiler: We're not impressed.   Then Ashley takes us into some CONSPIRACY THEORIES involving our favorite alphabet overlords-- the NSA and the CIA.  First on the chopping block is the NSA and their involvement with 33 Thomas St NYC New York-- supposedly just a simple AT&T building until Edward Snowden leaked highly classified information back in 2014.  After some pretty simple math it was discovered that that enormous spooky building was actually the largest NSA surveillance building on United States soil.  Codename: TITANPOINTE.    If you think AT&T being in cahoots with the NSA is bad... wait until you hear about Pepsi's connection to the CIA.  Because next we discuss the conspiracy theory that MOUNTAIN DEW releases its new wacky flavors right before major disasters.  Why, you ask? Well... that's... not an easy question to answer.  But we sure try.   Finally Lauren takes us into a REALITY TV CORNER and teaches us about an epic fail of a reality tv show called "Eden."  It's also called "Eden: Paradise Lost" for a very dumb reason.  Actually almost everything about this show was dumb, especially the part where they took it off the air and FORGOT TO TELL THE CAST AND CREW.   Check out some LINKS below if you want to do some extra reading on today's topics.   JOIN OUR PATREON at www.patreon.com/keepitweirdpodcast for TWO BONUS EPISODES every month, discounts on merch, a chance to sponsor a segment and free TAROT CARD readings!   FOLLOW US on social media @keepitweirdcast   SUBSCRIBE to our channel www.youtube.com/keepitweirdpodcast   SPY HUB NYC https://theintercept.com/2016/11/16/the-nsas-spy-hub-in-new-york-hidden-in-plain-sight/ https://www.atomic-ranch.com/retro-road-trip/33-thomas-street/ https://nypost.com/2023/10/05/what-its-inside-at-33-thomas-street-nycs-mystery-spy-hub/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33_Thomas_Street   DO THE DEW IF YOU DARE https://ksisradio.com/ixp/341/p/new-mountain-dew-flavor-conspiracy-theory/ https://www.theguardian.com/Columnists/Column/0,,305870,00.html https://www.theguardian.com/business/1998/nov/08/observerbusiness.theobserver https://www.npr.org/2023/09/10/1193755188/chile-coup-50-years-pinochet-kissinger-human-rights-allende   NOT QUITE PARADISE https://collider.com/eden-reality-tv-show/ https://lethbridgenewsnow.com/2021/07/12/eden-the-survival-show-that-didnt-tell-contestants-it-was-canceled/    

Katie talks to the Academy-Award winning director Oliver Stone and JFK researcher and author Jim Di Eugenio about the JFK files which they testified about in Congress. Then Katie talks to Civil Rights Lawyer Alec Karakatsanis about his book Copaganda and the way the media lies about crime. Oliver Stone is an Award-winning director, producer, screenwriter whose films include , Snowden, Savages, Untold History, Platoon, Wall Street, JFK and the documentary JFK Revisited. He is the author of Chasing the Light. Jim DiEugenio is a researcher and writer who focuses on the political assassinations of the 1960s, including the killing of JFK. He is the author of two books, Destiny Betrayed (1992/2012) and The JFK Assassination: The Evidence Today (2018), co-author of The Assassinations, and co-edited Probe Magazine (1993-2000). Alec Karakatsanis is a Civil Rights lawyer and the founder of Civil RIghts Corps. He is the author of Usual Cruelty: The Complicity of Lawyers in the Criminal Injustice System (2019) and Copaganda: How Police and the Media Manipulate Our News (2025) ***Please support The Katie Halper Show *** For bonus content, exclusive interviews, to support independent media & to help make this program possible, please join us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thekatiehalpershow Get your Katie Halper Show Merch here! https://katiehalper.myspreadshop.com/all Follow Katie on Twitter: https://x.com/kthalps Follow Katie on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/kthalps/

Thinking about bidding on bonded jobs? Learn what surety bonds REALLY mean for your business. In this episode, Dominic Rubino interviews Matthew Snowden of The Mahoney Group, an experienced surety bond advisor. They cover what a bond actually guarantees, how to qualify, the risks of not being prepared, and how bonding can level up your business. Topics Covered:

Filmmaker Laura Poitras gets a tip from a mysterious informant. Despite the enormous risks, Poitras pursues the story, and teams up with reporter Glenn Greenwald.Be the first to know about Wondery's newest podcasts, curated recommendations, and more! Sign up now at https://wondery.fm/wonderynewsletterListen to American Scandal on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. Experience all episodes ad-free and be the first to binge the newest season. Unlock exclusive early access by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial today by visiting wondery.com/links/american-scandal/ now.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

⭐️ Want support with real-world strategies that actually work on your campus? We're doing that every day in the School for School Counselors Mastermind. Come join us! ⭐️**********************************Behavior charts. Consequence ladders. ABC data.They're everywhere- and school counselors are often expected to be in the middle of it.But what happens when the behaviorist framework you're handed feels completely misaligned with your counseling instincts? What if you're tired of being the “behavior person” when all you want is to help kids feel safe and understood?In this episode, I'm naming the tension between behaviorism and trauma-informed care, and why school counselors are so often stuck in the middle. We'll explore how to hold both structure and compassion… and how to begin stepping back into the role that actually reflects your training.If you've ever felt caught between compliance and connection, this one's for you.[00:00] Why behavior plans feel off for counselors[03:00] Behaviorism basics (and why it still dominates)[06:45] Trauma-informed care: the “can't,” not “won't” lens[10:00] Can you hold structure and compassion?[14:00] Real-life examples: escape and attention-seeking[16:30] The problem isn't just strategy—it's your role[17:30] Three frameworks that actually work[20:00] How to stop being “the behavior person”[24:00] Four ways to shift the narrative[27:00] Final encouragement + your next stepReferencesBarth, R. P., Lee, B. R., Lindsey, M. A., Collins, K. S., Strieder, F. H., Chorpita, B. F., Becker, K. D., & Snowden, L. R. (2004). Evidence-based practice in mental health services for youth. The Journal of Behavioral Health Services & Research, 31(2), 213–233. https://doi.org/10.1007/BF02287377Berger, E., Green, S., & Dalton, L. (2019). Educator perceptions of trauma-informed care in schools: A qualitative study. School Mental Health, 11(3), 483–496. https://doi.org/10.1007/s12310-019-09323-zBlaustein, M., & Kinniburgh, K. (2010). Treating traumatic stress in children and adolescents: How to foster resilience through attachment, self-regulation, and competency. Guilford Press.Greene, R. W., Ablon, J. S., & Goring, J. C. (2003). A transactional model of oppositional behavior: Underpinnings of the Collaborative Problem Solving approach. Journal of Psychosocial Nursing and Mental Health Services, 41(11), 20–25. https://doi.org/10.3928/0279-3695-20031101-08Overstreet, S., & Chafouleas, S. M. (2016). Trauma-informed schools: Introduction to the special issue. School Mental Health, 8(1), 1–6. https://doi.org/10.1007/s12310-016-9184-1Perry, B. D. (2006). Fear and learning: Trauma-related factors in the adult education process. In S. Johnson & K. Taylor (Eds.), The Neuroscience of Learning and Development (pp. 123–142). Jossey-Bass.Perry, B. D., & Szalavitz, M. (2017). The boy who was raised as a dog: And other stories from a child psychiatrist's notebook (3rd ed.). Basic Books.The National Child Traumatic Stress Network. (n.d.). Trauma-Informed School Strategies During COVID-19. https://www.nctsn.org/resources/trauma-informed-school-strategies-during-covid-19**********************************Our goal at School for School Counselors is to help school counselors stay on fire, make huge impacts for students, and catalyze change for our roles through grassroots advocacy and collaboration. Listen to get to know more about us and our mission, feel empowered and inspired, and set yourself up for success in the wonderful world of school counseling.

The Utah CB on the growth of the defense at the end of spring ball

The Utah CB on the growth of the defense at the end of spring ball

Guest Bio:  Dave Snowden divides his time between two roles: founder & Chief Scientific Officer of Cognitive Edge and the founder and Director of the Centre for Applied Complexity at the University of Wales.  Known for creating the sense-making framework, Cynefin, Dave's work is international in nature and covers government and industry looking at complex issues relating to strategy, organisational decision making and decision making.  He has pioneered a science-based approach to organisations drawing on anthropology, neuroscience and complex adaptive systems theory.  He is a popular and passionate keynote speaker on a range of subjects, and is well known for his pragmatic cynicism and iconoclastic style. He holds positions as extra-ordinary Professor at the Universities of Pretoria and Stellenbosch and visiting Professor at Bangor University in Wales respectively.  He has held similar positions at Hong Kong Polytechnic University, Canberra University, the University of Warwick and The University of Surrey.  He held the position of senior fellow at the Institute of Defence and Strategic Studies at Nanyang University and the Civil Service College in Singapore during a sabbatical period in Nanyang. His paper with Boone on Leadership was the cover article for the Harvard Business Review in November 2007 and also won the Academy of Management aware for the best practitioner paper in the same year.  He has previously won a special award from the Academy for originality in his work on knowledge management. He is a editorial board member of several academic and practitioner journals in the field of knowledge management and is an Editor in Chief of E:CO.  In 2006 he was Director of the EPSRC (UK) research programme on emergence and in 2007 was appointed to an NSF (US) review panel on complexity science research. He previously worked for IBM where he was a Director of the Institution for Knowledge Management and founded the Cynefin Centre for Organisational Complexity; during that period he was selected by IBM as one of six on-demand thinkers for a world-wide advertising campaign. Prior to that he worked in a range of strategic and management roles in the service sector. His company Cognitive Edge exists to integrate academic thinking with practice in organisations throughout the world and operates on a network model working with Academics, Government, Commercial Organisations, NGOs and Independent Consultants.  He is also the main designer of the SenseMaker® software suite, originally developed in the field of counter terrorism and now being actively deployed in both Government and Industry to handle issues of impact measurement, customer/employee insight, narrative based knowledge management, strategic foresight and risk management. The Centre for Applied Complexity was established to look at whole of citizen engagement in government and is running active programmes in Wales and elsewhere in areas such as social inclusion, self-organising communities and nudge economics together with a broad range of programmes in health.  The Centre will establish Wales as a centre of excellence for the integration of academic and practitioner work in creating a science-based approach to understanding society.   Social Media and Website LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/dave-snowden-2a93b Twitter: @snowded Website: Cognitive Edge https://www.cognitive-edge.com/   Books/ Resources: Book: Cynefin - Weaving Sense-Making into the Fabric of Our World by Dave Snowden and Friends https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cynefin-Weaving-Sense-Making-Fabric-World/dp/1735379905 Book: Hope Without Optimism by Terry Eagleton https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hope-Without-Optimism-Terry-Eagleton/dp/0300248679/ Book: Theology of Hope by Jurgen Moltmann https://www.amazon.co.uk/Theology-Hope-Classics-Jurgen-Moltmann/dp/0334028787 Poem: ‘Mending Wall' by Robert Frost https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/44266/mending-wall Video: Dave Snowden on ‘Rewilding Agile' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrgaPDqet4c Article reference to ‘Rewilding Agile' by Dave Snowden https://cynefin.io/index.php/User:Snowded Field Guide to Managing Complexity (and Chaos) In Times of Crisis https://cynefin.io/index.php/Field_guide_to_managing_complexity_(and_chaos)_in_times_of_crisis Field Guide to Managing Complexity (and Chaos) In Times of Crisis (2) https://ec.europa.eu/jrc/en/publication/managing-complexity-and-chaos-times-crisis-field-guide-decision-makers-inspired-cynefin-framework Cynefin Wiki https://cynefin.io/wiki/Main_Page   Interview Transcript Ula Ojiaku:  Dave, thank you for making the time for this conversation. I read in your, your latest book - the book, Cynefin: Weaving Sense Making into the Fabric of Our World, which was released, I believe, in celebration of the twenty first year of the framework. And you mentioned that in your childhood, you had multidisciplinary upbringing which involved lots of reading. Could you tell us a bit more about that? Dave Snowden:  I think it wasn't uncommon in those days. I mean, if you did… I mean, I did science A levels and mathematical A levels. But the assumption was you would read every novel that the academic English class were reading. In fact, it was just unimaginable (that) you wouldn't know the basics of history. So, if you couldn't survive that in the sixth form common room, and the basics of science were known by most of the arts people as well. So that that was common, right. And we had to debate every week anyway. So, every week, you went up to the front of the class and you were given a card, and you'd have the subject and which side you are on, and you had to speak for seven minutes without preparation. And we did that every week from the age of 11 to 18. And that was a wonderful discipline because it meant you read everything. But also, my mother was… both my parents were the first from working class communities to go to university. And they got there by scholarship or sheer hard work against the opposition of their families. My mother went to university in Germany just after the war, which was extremely brave of her -  you know, as a South Wales working class girl. So, you weren't allowed not to be educated, it was considered the unforgivable sin. Ula Ojiaku:   Wow. Did it mean that she had to learn German, because (she was) studying in Germany…? Dave Snowden:  She well, she got A levels in languages. So, she went to university to study German and she actually ended up as a German teacher, German and French. So, she had that sort of background. Yeah. Ula Ojiaku:  And was that what influenced you? Because you also mentioned in the book that you won a £60 prize? Dave Snowden:  Oh, no, that was just fun. So, my mum was very politically active. We're a South Wales labor. Well, I know if I can read but we were labor. And so, she was a local Councilor. She was always politically active. There's a picture of me on Bertrand Russell's knee and her as a baby on a CND march. So it was that sort of background. And she was campaigning for comprehensive education, and had a ferocious fight with Aiden Williams, I think, who was the Director of Education, it was really nasty. I mean, I got threatened on my 11 Plus, he got really nasty. And then so when (I was) in the sixth form, I won the prize in his memory, which caused endless amusement in the whole county. All right. I think I probably won it for that. But that was for contributions beyond academic. So, I was leading lots of stuff in the community and stuff like that. But I had £60. And the assumption was, you go and buy one massive book. And I didn't, I got Dad to drive me to Liverpool - went into the big bookshop there and just came out with I mean, books for two and six pence. So, you can imagine how many books I could get for £60. And I just took everything I could find on philosophy and history and introductory science and stuff like that and just consumed it. Ula Ojiaku:  Wow, it seemed like you already knew what you wanted even before winning the prize money, you seem to have had a wish list... Dave Snowden:  I mean, actually interesting, and the big things in the EU field guide on (managing) complexity which was just issued. You need to build…, You need to stop saying, ‘this is the problem, we will find the solution' to saying, ‘how do I build capability, that can solve problems we haven't yet anticipated?' And I think that's part of the problem in education. Because my children didn't have that benefit. They had a modular education. Yeah, we did a set of exams at 16 and a set of exams that 18 and between those periods, we could explore it (i.e. options) and we had to hold everything in our minds for those two periods, right? For my children, it was do a module, pass a test, get a mark, move on, forget it move on. So, it's very compartmentalized, yeah? And it's also quite instrumentalist. We, I think we were given an education as much in how to learn and have had to find things out. And the debating tradition was that; you didn't know what you're going to get hit with. So, you read everything, and you thought about it, and you learn to think on your feet. And I think that that sort of a broad switch, it started to happen in the 80s, along with a lot of other bad things in management. And this is when systems thinking started to dominate. And we moved to an engineering metaphor. And you can see it in cybernetics and everything else, it's an attempt to define everything as a machine. And of course, machines are designed for a purpose, whereas ecosystems evolve for resilience. And I think that's kind of like where I, my generation were and it's certainly what we're trying to bring back in now in sort of in terms of practice. Ula Ojiaku:  I have an engineering background and a computer science background. These days, I'm developing a newfound love for philosophy, psychology, law and, you know, intersect, how do all these concepts intersect? Because as human beings we're complex, we're not machines where you put the program in and you expect it to come out the same, you know, it's not going to be the same for every human being. What do you think about that? Dave Snowden:  Yeah. And I think, you know, we know more on this as well. So, we know the role of art in human evolution is being closely linked to innovation. So, art comes before language. So, abstraction allows you to make novel connections. So, if you focus entirely on STEM education, you're damaging the human capacity to innovate. And we're, you know, as creatures, we're curious. You know. And I mean, we got this whole concept of our aporia, which is key to connecting that, which is creating a state of deliberate confusion, or a state of paradox. And the essence of a paradox is you can't resolve it. So, you're forced to think differently. So, the famous case on this is the liar's paradox, alright? I mean, “I always lie”. That just means I lied. So, if that means I was telling the truth. So, you've got to think differently about the problem. I mean, you've seen those paradoxes do the same thing. So that, that deliberate act of creating confusion so people can see novelty is key. Yeah. Umm and if you don't find… finding ways to do that, so when we looked at it, we looked at linguistic aporia, aesthetic aporia and physical aporia. So, I got some of the… one of the defining moments of insight on Cynefin was looking at Caravaggio`s paintings in Naples. When I realized I've been looking for the idea of the liminality. And that was, and then it all came together, right? So those are the trigger points requiring a more composite way of learning. I think it's also multiculturalism, to be honest. I mean, I, when I left university, I worked on the World Council of Churches come, you know program to combat racism. Ula Ojiaku:  Yes, I'd like to know more about that. That's one of my questions… Dave Snowden:  My mother was a good atheist, but she made me read the Bible on the basis, I wouldn't understand European literature otherwise, and the penetration guys, I became a Catholic so… Now, I mean, that that was fascinating, because I mean, I worked on Aboriginal land rights in Northern Australia, for example. And that was when I saw an activist who was literally murdered in front of me by a security guard. And we went to the police. And they said, it's only an Abo. And I still remember having fights in Geneva, because South Africa was a tribal conflict with a racial overlay. I mean, Africa, and its Matabele Zulu, arrived in South Africa together and wiped out the native population. And if you don't understand that, you don't understand the Matabele betrayal. You don't understand what happened. It doesn't justify apartheid. And one of the reasons there was a partial reconciliation, is it actually was a tribal conflict. And the ritual actually managed that. Whereas in Australia, in comparison was actually genocide. Yeah, it wasn't prejudice, it was genocide. I mean, until 1970s, there, were still taking half -breed children forcibly away from their parents, inter-marrying them in homes, to breed them back to white. And those are, I think, yeah, a big market. I argued this in the UK, I said, one of the things we should actually have is bring back national service. I couldn't get the Labor Party to adopt it. I said, ‘A: Because it would undermine the Conservatives, because they're the ones who talk about that sort of stuff. But we should allow it to be overseas.' So, if you put two years into working in communities, which are poorer than yours, round about that 18 to 21-year-old bracket, then we'll pay for your education. If you don't, you'll pay fees. Because you proved you want to give to society. And that would have been… I think, it would have meant we'd have had a generation of graduates who understood the world because that was part of the objective. I mean, I did that I worked on worked in South Africa, on the banks of Zimbabwe on the audits of the refugee camps around that fight. And in Sao Paulo, in the slums, some of the work of priests. You can't come back from that and not be changed. And I think it's that key formative period, we need to give people. Ula Ojiaku:  True and like you said, at that age, you know, when you're young and impressionable, it helps with what broadening your worldview to know that the world is bigger than your father's … compound (backyard)… Dave Snowden:  That's the worst problem in Agile, because what, you've got a whole class of, mainly white males and misogynism in Agile is really bad. It's one of the worst areas for misogyny still left, right, in terms of where it works. Ula Ojiaku:  I'm happy you are the one saying it not me… Dave Snowden:  Well, no, I mean, it is it's quite appalling. And so, what you've actually got is, is largely a bunch of white male game players who spent their entire time on computers. Yeah, when you take and run seriously after puberty, and that's kind of like a dominant culture. And that's actually quite dangerous, because it lacks, it lacks cultural diversity, it lacks ethnic diversity, it lacks educational diversity. And I wrote an article for ITIL, recently, which has been published, which said, no engineers should be allowed out, without training in ethics. Because the implications of what software engineers do now are huge. And the problem we've got, and this is a really significant, it's a big data problem as well. And you see it with a behavioral economic economist and the nudge theory guys - all of whom grab these large-scale data manipulations is that they're amoral, they're not immoral, they're amoral. And that's actually always more scary. It's this sort of deep level instrumentalism about the numbers; the numbers tell me what I need to say. Ula Ojiaku:  And also, I mean, just building on what you've said, there are instances, for example, in artificial intelligence is really based on a sample set from a select group, and it doesn't necessarily recognize things that are called ‘outliers'. You know, other races… Dave Snowden:  I mean, I've worked in that in all my life now back 20, 25 years ago. John Poindexter and I were on a stage in a conference in Washington. This was sort of early days of our work on counter terrorism. And somebody asked about black box AI and I said, nobody's talking about the training data sets. And I've worked in AI from the early days, all right, and the training data sets matter and nobody bothered. They just assumed… and you get people publishing books which say correlation is causation, which is deeply worrying, right? And I think Google is starting to acknowledge that, but it's actually very late. And the biases which… we were looking at a software tool the other day, it said it can, it can predict 85% of future events around culture. Well, it can only do that by constraining how executive see culture, so it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. And then the recruitment algorithms will only recruit people who match that cultural expectation and outliers will be eliminated. There's an HBO film coming up shortly on Myers Briggs. Now, Myers Briggs is known to be a pseudo-science. It has no basis whatsoever in any clinical work, and even Jung denied it, even though it's meant to be based on his work. But it's beautiful for HR departments because it allows them to put people into little categories. And critically it abrogates, judgment, and that's what happened with systems thinking in the 80s 90s is everything became spreadsheets and algorithms. So, HR departments would produce… instead of managers making decisions based on judgment, HR departments would force them into profile curves, to allocate resources. Actually, if you had a high performing team who were punished, because the assumption was teams would not have more than… Ula Ojiaku:  Bell curve... Dave Snowden:  …10 percent high performance in it. All right. Ula Ojiaku:  Yeah. Dave Snowden:  And this sort of nonsense has been running in the 80s, 90s and it coincided with… three things came together. One was the popularization of systems thinking. And unfortunately, it got popularized around things like process reengineering and learning organization. So that was a hard end. And Sanghi's pious can the sort of the, the soft end of it, right? But both of them were highly directional. It was kind of like leaders decide everything follows. Yeah. And that coincided with the huge growth of computing - the ability to handle large volumes of information. And all of those sorts of things came together in this sort of perfect storm, and we lost a lot of humanity in the process. Ula Ojiaku:  Do you think there's hope for us to regain the humanity in the process? Because it seems like the tide is turning from, I mean, there is still an emphasis, in my view, on systems thinking, however, there is the growing realization that we have, you know, knowledge workers and people… Dave Snowden:  Coming to the end of its park cycle, I see that all right. I can see it with the amount of cybernetics fanboys, and they are all boys who jump on me every time I say something about complexity, right? So, I think they're feeling threatened. And the field guide is significant, because it's a government, you know, government can like publication around effectively taken an ecosystems approach, not a cybernetic approach. And there's a book published by a good friend of mine called Terry Eagleton, who's… I don't think he's written a bad book. And he's written about 30, or 40. I mean, the guy just produces his stuff. It's called “Hope without Optimism”. And I think, hope is… I mean, Moltman just also published an update of his Theology of Hope, which is worth reading, even if you're not religious. But hope is one of those key concepts, right, you should… to lose hope is a sin. But hope is not the same thing as optimism. In fact, pessimistic people who hope actually are probably the ones who make a difference, because they're not naive, right? And this is my objection to the likes of Sharma Ga Sengi, and the like, is they just gather people together to talk about how things should be. And of course, everything should be what, you know, white MIT, educated males think the world should be like. I mean, it's very culturally imperialist in that sort of sense. And then nobody changes because anybody can come together in the workshop and agree how things should be. It's when you make a difference in the field that it counts, you've got to create a micro difference. This is hyper localization, you got to create lots and lots of micro differences, which will stimulate the systems, the system will change. I think, three things that come together, one is COVID. The other is global warming. And the other is, and I prefer to call it the epistemic justice movement, though, that kind of like fits in with Black Lives Matter. But epistemic justice doesn't just affect people who are female or black. I mean, if you come to the UK and see the language about the Welsh and the Irish, or the jokes made about the Welsh in BBC, right? The way we use language can designate people in different ways and I think that's a big movement, though. And it's certainly something we develop software for. So, I think those three come together, and I think the old models aren't going to be sustainable. I mean, the cost is going to be terrible. I mean, the cost to COVID is already bad. And we're not getting this thing as long COVID, it's permanent COVID. And people need to start getting used to that. And I think that's, that's going to change things. So, for example, in the village I live in Wiltshire. Somebody's now opened an artisan bakery in their garage and it's brilliant. And everybody's popping around there twice a week and just buying the bread and having a chat on the way; socially-distanced with masks, of course. And talking of people, that sort of thing is happening a lot. COVID has forced people into local areas and forced people to realise the vulnerability of supply chains. So, you can see changes happening there. The whole Trump phenomenon, right, and the Boris murmuring in the UK is ongoing. It's just as bad as the Trump phenomenon. It's the institutionalization of corruption as a high level. Right? Those sorts of things trigger change, right? Not without cost, change never comes without cost, but it just needs enough… It needs local action, not international action. I think that's the key principle. To get a lot of people to accept things like the Paris Accord on climate change, and you've got to be prepared to make sacrifices. And it's too distant a time at the moment, it has to become a local issue for the international initiatives to actually work and we're seeing that now. I mean… Ula Ojiaku:  It sounds like, sorry to interrupt - it sounds like what you're saying is, for the local action, for change to happen, it has to start with us as individuals… Dave Snowden:  The disposition… No, not with individuals. That's actually very North American, the North European way of thinking right. The fundamental kind of basic identity structure of humans is actually clans, not individuals. Ula Ojiaku:  Clans... Dave Snowden:  Yeah. Extended families, clans; it's an ambiguous word. We actually evolved for those. And you need it at that level, because that's a high level of social interaction and social dependency. And it's like, for example, right? I'm dyslexic. Right? Yeah. If I don't see if, if the spelling checker doesn't pick up a spelling mistake, I won't see it. And I read a whole page at a time. I do not read it sentence by sentence. All right. And I can't understand why people haven't seen the connections I make, because they're obvious, right? Equally, there's a high degree of partial autism in the Agile community, because that goes with mathematical ability and thing, and that this so-called education deficiencies, and the attempt to define an ideal individual is a mistake, because we evolved to have these differences. Ula Ojiaku:  Yes. Dave Snowden:  Yeah. And the differences understood that the right level of interaction can change things. So, I think the unit is clan, right for extended family, or extended, extended interdependence. Ula Ojiaku:  Extended interdependence… Dave Snowden:  We're seeing that in the village. I mean, yeah, this is classic British atomistic knit, and none of our relatives live anywhere near us. But the independence in the village is increasing with COVID. And therefore, people are finding relationships and things they can do together. Now, once that builds to a critical mass, and it does actually happen exponentially, then bigger initiatives are possible. And this is some of the stuff we were hoping to do in the US shortly on post-election reconciliation. And the work we've been doing in Malmo, in refugees and elsewhere in the world, right, is you change the nature of localized interaction with national visibility, so that you can measure the dispositional state of the system. And then you can nudge the system when it's ready to change, because then the energy cost of change is low. But that requires real time feedback loops in distributed human sensor networks, which is a key issue in the field guide. And the key thing that comes back to your original question on AI, is, the internet at the moment is an unbuffered feedback loop. Yeah, where you don't know the source of the data, and you can't control the source of the data. And any network like that, and this is just apriori science factor, right will always become perverted. Ula Ojiaku:  And what do you mean by term apriori? Dave Snowden:  Oh, before the facts, you don't need to, we don't need to wait for evidence. It's like in an agile, you can look at something like SAFe® which case claims to scale agile and just look at it you say it's apriori wrong (to) a scale a complex system. So, it's wrong. All right. End of argument right. Now let's talk about the details, right. So yeah, so that's, you know, that's coming back. The hyper localization thing is absolutely key on that, right? And the same is true to be honest in software development. A lot of our work now is to understand the unarticulated needs of users. And then shift technology in to actually meet those unarticulated needs. And that requires a complex approach to architecture, in which people and technology are objects with defined interactions around scaffolding structures, so that applications can emerge in resilience, right? And that's actually how local communities evolve as well. So, we've now got the theoretical constructs and a lot of the practical methods to actually… And I've got a series of blog posts - which I've got to get back to writing - called Rewilding Agile. And rewilding isn't returning to the original state, it's restoring balance. So, if you increase the number of human actors as your primary sources, and I mean human actors, not as people sitting on (in front of) computer screens who can be faked or mimicked, yeah? … and entirely working on text, which is about 10%, of what we know, dangerous, it might become 80% of what we know and then you need to panic. Right? So, you know, by changing those interactions, increasing the human agency in the system, that's how you come to, that's how you deal with fake news. It's not by writing better algorithms, because then it becomes a war with the guys faking the news, and you're always gonna lose. Ula Ojiaku:  So, what do you consider yourself, a person of faith? Dave Snowden:  Yeah. Ula Ojiaku:  Why? Dave Snowden:  Oh, faith is like hope and charity. I mean, they're the great virtues… I didn't tell you I got into a lot in trouble in the 70s. Dave Snowden:  I wrote an essay that said Catholicism, Marxism and Hinduism were ontologically identical and should be combined and we're different from Protestantism and capitalism, which are also ontologically identical (and) it can be combined. Ula Ojiaku:  Is this available in the public domain? Dave Snowden:  I doubt it. I think it actually got me onto a heresy trial at one point, but that but I would still say that. Ula Ojiaku:  That's amazing. Can we then move to the framework that Cynefin framework, how did it evolve into what we know it as today? Dave Snowden:  I'll do a high-level summary, but I wrote it up at length in the book and I didn't know I was writing for the book. The book was a surprise that they put together for me. I thought that was just writing an extended blog post. It started when I was working in IBM is it originates from the work of Max Borrasso was my mentor for years who tragically died early. But he was looking at abstraction, codification and diffusion. We did a fair amount of work together, I took two of those aspects and started to look at informal and formal communities in IBM, and its innovation. And some of the early articles on Cynefin, certainly the early ones with the five domains come from that period. And at that time, we had access labels. Yeah. And then then complexity theory came into it. So, it shifted into being a complexity framework. And it stayed … The five domains were fairly constant for a fairly long period of time, they changed their names a bit. The central domain I knew was important, but didn't have as much prominence as it does now. And then I introduced liminality, partly driven by agile people, actually, because they could they couldn't get the concept there were dynamics and domains. So, they used to say things like, ‘look, Scrum is a dynamic. It's a way of shifting complex to complicated' and people say ‘no, the scrum guide said it's about complex.' And you think, ‘oh, God, Stacey has a lot to answer for' but… Ula Ojiaku: Who`s Stacey? Dave Snowden:  Ralph Stacey. So, he was the guy originally picked up by Ken when he wrote the Scrum Guide… Ula Ojiaku:  Right. Okay. Dave Snowden:  Stacey believes everything's complex, which is just wrong, right? So, either way, Cynefin evolved with the liminal aspects. And then the last resolution last year, which is… kind of completes Cynefin to be honest, there's some refinements… was when we realized that the central domain was confused, or operatic. And that was the point where you started. So, you didn't start by putting things into the domain, you started in the operatic. And then you moved aspects of things into the different domains. So that was really important. And it got picked up in Agile, ironically, by the XP community. So, I mean, I was in IT most of my life, I was one of the founders of the DSDM Consortium, and then moved sideways from that, and was working in counterterrorism and other areas, always you're working with technology, but not in the Agile movement. Cynefin is actually about the same age as Agile, it started at the same time. And the XP community in London invited me in, and I still think Agile would have been better if it had been built on XP, not Scrum. But it wouldn't have scaled with XP, I mean, without Scrum it would never have scaled it. And then it got picked up. And I think one of the reasons it got picked up over Stacey is, it said order is possible. It didn't say everything is complex. And virtually every Agile method I know of value actually focuses on making complex, complicated. Ula Ojiaku:  Yes. Dave Snowden:  And that's its power. What they're… what is insufficient of, and this is where we've been working is what I call pre-Scrum techniques. Techniques, which define what should go into that process. Right, because all of the Agile methods still tend to be a very strong manufacturing metaphor - manufacturing ideas. So, they assume somebody will tell them what they have to produce. And that actually is a bad way of thinking about IT. Technology needs to co-evolve. And users can't articulate what they want, because they don't know what technology can do. Ula Ojiaku:  True. But are you saying… because in Agile fundamentally, it's really about making sure there's alignment as well that people are working on the right thing per time, but you're not telling them how to do it? Dave Snowden:  Well, yes and no - all right. I mean, it depends what you're doing. I mean, some Agile processes, yes. But if you go through the sort of safe brain remain processes, very little variety within it, right? And self-organization happens within the context of a user executive and retrospectives. Right, so that's its power. And, but if you look at it, it took a really good technique called time-boxing, and it reduced it to a two-week sprint. Now, that's one aspect of time boxing. I mean, I've got a whole series of blog posts next week on this, because time boxing is a hugely valuable technique. It says there's minimal deliverable project, and maximum deliverable product and a minimal level of resource and a maximum level of resource. And the team commits to deliver on the date. Ula Ojiaku:  To accurate quality… to a quality standard. Dave Snowden:  Yeah, so basically, you know that the worst case, you'll get the minimum product at the maximum cost, but you know, you'll get it on that date. So, you can deal with it, alright. And that's another technique we've neglected. We're doing things which force high levels of mutation and requirements over 24 hours, before they get put into a Scrum process. Because if you just take what users want, you know, there's been insufficient co-evolution with the technology capability. And so, by the time you deliver it, the users will probably realize they should have asked for something different anyway. Ula Ojiaku:  So, does this tie in with the pre-Scrum techniques you mentioned earlier? If so, can you articulate that? Dave Snowden:  So, is to say different methods in different places. And that's again, my opposition to things like SAFe, to a lesser extent LeSS, and so on, right, is they try and put everything into one bloody big flow diagram. Yeah. And that's messy. All right? Well, it's a recipe, not a chef. What the chef does is they put different ingredients together in different combinations. So, there's modularity of knowledge, but it's not forced into a linear process. So, our work… and we just got an open space and open source and our methods deliberately, right, in terms of the way it works, is I can take Scrum, and I can reduce it to its lowest coherent components, like a sprint or retrospective. I can combine those components with components for another method. So, I can create Scrum as an assembly of components, I can take those components compared with other components. And that way, you get novelty. So, we're then developing components which sit before traditional stuff. Like for example, triple eight, right? This was an old DSDM method. So, you ran a JAD sessions and Scrum has forgotten about JAD. JAD is a really…  joint application design… is a really good set of techniques - they're all outstanding. You throw users together with coders for two days, and you force out some prototypes. Yeah, that latching on its own would, would transform agile, bringing that back in spades, right? We did is we do an eight-hour JAD session say, in London, and we pass it on to a team in Mumbai. But we don't tell them what the users ask for. They just get the prototype. And they can do whatever they want with it for eight hours. And then they hand it over to a team in San Francisco, who can do whatever they want with it in eight hours. And it comes back. And every time I've run this, the user said, ‘God, I wouldn't have thought of that, can I please, have it?' So, what you're doing is a limited life cycle -  you get the thing roughly defined, then you allow it to mutate without control, and then you look at the results and decide what you want to do. And that's an example of pre-scrum technique, that is a lot more economical than systems and analysts and user executives and storyboards. And all those sorts of things. Yeah. Ula Ojiaku:  Well, I see what you mean, because it seems like the, you know, the JAD - the joint application design technique allows for emergent design, and you shift the decision making closer to the people who are at the forefront. And to an extent my understanding of, you know, Scrum … I mean, some agile frameworks - that's also what they promote… Dave Snowden:  Oh, they don't really don't. alright. They picked up Design Thinking which is quite interesting at the moment. If you if you look at Agile and Design Thinking. They're both at the end of their life cycles. Ula Ojiaku:  Why do you say that? Dave Snowden:  Because they're being commodified. The way you know, something is coming to the end of its life cycle is when it becomes highly commodified. So, if you look at it, look at what they are doing the moment, the Double Diamond is now a series of courses with certificates. And I mean, Agile started with bloody certificates, which is why it's always been slightly diverse in the way it works. I mean, this idea that you go on a three-day course and get a certificate, you read some slides every year and pay some money and get another certificate is fundamentally corrupt. But most of the Agile business is built on it, right? I mean, I've got three sets of methods after my name. But they all came from yearlong or longer courses certified by university not from tearing apart a course. Yeah, or satisfying a peer group within a very narrow cultural or technical definition of competence. So, I think yeah, and you can see that with Design Thinking. So, it's expert ideation, expert ethnography. And it still falls into that way of doing things. Yeah. And you can see it, people that are obsessed with running workshops that they facilitate. And that's the problem. I mean, the work we're doing on citizen engagement is actually… has no bloody facilitators in it. As all the evidence is that the people who turn up are culturally biased about their representative based opinions. And the same is true if you want to look at unarticulated needs, you can't afford to have the systems analysts finding them because they see them from their perspective. And this is one of one science, right? You did not see what you do not expect to see. We know that, alright? So, you're not going to see outliers. And so, the minute you have an expert doing something, it's really good - where you know, the bounds of the expertise, cover all the possibilities, and it's really dangerous. Well, that's not the case. Ula Ojiaku:  So, could you tell me a bit more about the unfacilitated sessions you mentioned earlier? Dave Snowden:  They're definitely not sessions, so we didn't like what were triggers at moments. Ula Ojiaku:  Okay. Dave Snowden:  So, defining roles. So, for example, one of the things I would do and have done in IT, is put together, young, naive, recently graduated programmer with older experienced tester or software architect. So, somebody without any… Ula Ojiaku:  Prejudice or pre-conceived idea... Dave Snowden:  … preferably with a sort of grandparent age group between them as well. I call it, the grandparents syndrome - grandparents say things to their grandchildren they won't tell their children and vice versa. If you maximize the age gap, there's actually freer information flow because there's no threat in the process. And then we put together with users trained to talk to IT people. So, in a month's time, I'll publish that as a training course. So, training users to talk to IT people is more economical than trying to train IT people to understand users. Ula Ojiaku:  To wrap up then, based on what you said, you know, about Cynefin, and you know, the wonderful ideas behind Cynefin. How can leaders in organizations in any organization apply these and in how they make sense of the world and, you know, take decisions? Dave Snowden:  Well, if there's actually a sensible way forward now, so we've just published the field guide on managing complexity.  Ula Ojiaku:  Okay. Dave Snowden:  And that is actually, it's a sort of ‘Chef's guide'. It has four stages: assess, adapt, exert, transcend, and within that it has things you could do. So, it's not a list of qualities, it's a list of practical things you should go and do tomorrow, and those things we're building at the moment with a lot of partners, because we won't try and control this; this needs to be open. Here's an assessment process that people will go through to decide where they are. So that's going to be available next week on our website. Ula Ojiaku:  Oh, fantastic! Dave Snowden:  For the initial registration.  Other than that, and there's a whole body of stuff on how to use Cynefin. And as I said, we just open source on the methods. So, the Wiki is open source. These… from my point of view, we're now at the stage where the market is going to expand very quickly. And to be honest, I, you know, I've always said traditionally use cash waiver as an example of this. The reason that Agile scaled around Scrum is he didn't make it an elite activity, which XP was. I love the XP guys, but they can't communicate with ordinary mortals. Yeah. It takes you about 10 minutes to tune into the main point, and even you know the field, right. And he (Jeff Sutherland) made the Scrum Guide open source. And that way it's great, right. And I think that that's something which people just don't get strategic with. They, in early stages, you should keep things behind firewalls. When the market is ready to expand, you take the firewalls away fast. Because I mean, getting behind firewalls initially to maintain coherence so they don't get diluted too quickly, or what I call “hawks being made into pigeons”. Yeah. But the minute the market is starting to expand, that probably means you've defined it so you release the firewall so the ideas spread very quickly, and you accept the degree of diversity on it. So that's the reason we put the Wiki. Ula Ojiaku:  Right. So, are there any books that you would recommend, for anyone who wants to learn more about what you've talked about so far. Dave Snowden:  You would normally produce the theory book, then the field book, but we did it the other way around. So, Mary and I are working on three to five books, which will back up the Field Guide. Ula Ojiaku:  Is it Mary Boone? Dave Snowden:  Mary Boone. She knows how to write to the American managers, which I don't, right… without losing integrity. So that's coming, right. If you go onto the website, I've listed all the books I read. I don't think… there are some very, very good books around complexity, but they're deeply specialized, they're academic. Gerard's book is just absolutely brilliant but it's difficult to understand if you don't have a philosophy degree. And there are some awfully tripe books around complexity - nearly all of the popular books I've seen, I wouldn't recommend. Yeah. Small Groups of Complex Adaptive Systems is probably quite a good one that was published about 20 years ago. Yeah, but that we got a book list on the website. So, I would look at that. Ula Ojiaku:  Okay. Thank you so much for that. Do you have any ask of the audience and how can they get to you? Dave Snowden:  We've open-sourced the Wiki, you know, to create a critical mass, I was really pleased we have 200 people volunteered to help populate it. So, we get the all the methods in the field guide them. And they're actively working at that at the moment, right, and on a call with them later. And to be honest, I've done 18-hour days, the last two weeks, but 8 hours of each of those days has been talking to the methods with a group of people Academy 5, that's actually given me a lot of energy, because it's huge. So, get involved, I think it's the best way… you best understand complexity by getting the principles and then practicing it. And the key thing I'll leave us with is the metaphor. I mentioned it a few times - a recipe book user has a recipe, and they follow it. And if they don't have the right ingredients, and if they don't have the right equipment, they can't operate. Or they say it's not ‘true Agile'. A chef understands the theory of cooking and has got served in apprenticeship. So, their fingers know how to do things. And that's… we need… a downside.. more chefs, which is the combination of theory and practice. And the word empirical is hugely corrupted in the Agile movement. You know, basically saying, ‘this worked for me' or ‘it worked for me the last three times' is the most dangerous way of moving forward. Ula Ojiaku:  Because things change and what worked yesterday might not work Dave Snowden:  And you won't be aware of what worked or didn't work and so on. Ula Ojiaku:  And there's some bias in that. Wouldn't you say? Dave Snowden:  We've got an attentional blindness if you've got Ula Ojiaku:  Great. And Dave, where can people find you? Are you on social media? Dave Snowden:  Cognitive. Yeah, social media is @snowded. Yeah. LinkedIn, Facebook and Twitter. Two websites – the Cognitive Edge website, which is where I blog, and there's a new Cynefin Center website now, which is a not-for-profit arm. Ula Ojiaku:  Okay. All these would be in the show notes. Thank you so much for your time, Dave. It's been a pleasure speaking with you. Dave Snowden:  Okay. Thanks a lot.

Date: April 16, 2025Podcast: Black Girl TheologyEpisode Title: S3E3 | Single and Surrendered:​​ Trusting God with This Season with Brenaé Snowden and Ashtyn WashingtonINTRODUCTION:Even though many of us desire marriage one day, it's easy to take for granted the gift of singleness. We all have a call to be devoted to the Lord, and it's in our singleness where we generally have the most capacity to do that.In today's episode, we're talking with Brenaé Snowden about surrendering expectations and remaining hopeful that God is who He says He is in every season—specifically while we are both in seminary.But before we get into it, let's talk about our Black Girl Theologian of the week.This week's BGT is Jean Morrison. Jean is a devoted follower of Christ, a homeschooling mom, and a passionate student of God's Word. She is currently pursuing her degree in Biblical Studies. Jean serves as the social media and website manager at her church, where she blends her love for ministry with her creative talents. She is also the founder of Her Hiding Place, a women's ministry dedicated to equipping and encouraging women to live a life hidden in Christ. Through Bible studies, devotionals, and resources, Jean's mission is to help women deepen their relationship with God, discover their true identity in Him, and live a life rooted in His presence.Learn more about Jean MorrisonInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/herhidingplace_/Website: https://www.herhidingplace.org/aboutAbout Brenaé SnowdenBrenaé is a first-year seminary student at Dallas Theological Seminary. She is currently in the Master of Christian Education program with a focus on women's ministry.Keep Up With BrenaéInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/brenaesnowden/PATREONWe now have a Black Girl Theology community on Patreon! Depending on what level you join, you will receive early access to new podcast episodes, be able to submit topic requests for the podcast, and get access to two private, bonus episodes each season.So there are three different levels - the friend level, the bestie level, and the sista level.Click the link in the description box to view the different tiers and join the community.The Bestie level has a 7 day free trial so be sure to check that out.https://www.patreon.com/blackgirltheologypodcastLet's Stay Connected!Follow Black Girl Theology on Instagram: https://instagram.com/blkgrltheologyEmail: washingtonashtyn@gmail.comWATCH ON YOUTUBE This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit ashtynwashington.substack.com

Esports podcast specializing in feeding and Overwatch. Today's Sponsor: Check out FactorMeals.com/OVERWATCH50OFF for 50% OFF + FREE SHIPPING!Support Plat Chat and become a member today!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC38VAZEq3chAIPf4i2AIq7Q/joinFeaturing Jonathan "Reinforce" Snowden, Kevin "AVRL" Walker & Eren "Kenobi" Erkey.Timestamps:00:00 Intro03:50 Sponsor: FactorMeals.com/OVERWATCH50OFF06:30 Member's Question of the Week: Comparing OWCS Teams to OWL Teams20:30 GenG picks up WhoRU to replace Topdragon26:30 Previewing OWCS EMEA Promotion/Relegation51:00 Previewing OWCS NA Promotion/Relegation1:09:50 NTMR & Virtus Pro take on Korean competition in Soop Cup this weekend!1:38:10 Recapping OWCS China Playoffs & Discussing the future of the Chinese Region2:08:30 Bren's Player of the Week

Esports podcast specializing in feeding and Overwatch. Support Plat Chat and become a member today!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC38VAZEq3chAIPf4i2AIq7Q/joinFeaturing Matt "Mr.X" Morello, Jonathan "Reinforce" Snowden, Kevin "AVRL" Walker, Ari "Ocie" Simmers, and more!

We're not ready for revolution talk, with citizen peace activists being ICEd from their homes. We're in shock. We're staring at Trump. What can we do? The violence against people and the Earth will be stopped. And we, the people, will end it. How? This week on Earth Riot Radio, we remember five heroes who faced the modern corruption of the USA, and they made their move with their bodies and spoken word, with their families and their singing... Sun Ra, Roger Hallam, Asatta Shakur, John Trudell and Edward Snowden. These courageous ones each found a personal, creative response to wage peace against the violence, artists ahead of their time. Now, they are martyred or exiled, but they lived for life.

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Surprise! In this bonus episode, Ralph Echemendia shares more of his experiences working as a Technical Supervisor on the Snowden movie.

USE CODE OYSTA20 for 20% off all Tronque orders. This one's for the girlies who want glowing skin and real talk. In this episode, Paula sits down with Tanne Snowden, the powerhouse founder of Tronque, the luxury body care brand making waves in clean beauty. After battling endometriosis and navigating reproductive health challenges, Tanne realized the products she was using weren't just ineffective—they were potentially harmful. So, she took matters into her own hands.Now, Tronque is redefining body care with science-backed, efficacy-first products—because what you put on your skin matters. From the game-changing Vitamin C body oil to the iconic dry brush, Tanne shares how these products can transform the way you care for your body.What we're getting into:Tanne's personal journey with endometriosis and how it led her to clean, high-performance body care.The science behind Tronque's must-have products—why they work and how they elevate your skin health.How to upgrade your routine with lymphatic drainage, dry brushing, and body Gua Sha for maximum glow.Going from DIY to luxury beauty—Tanne's road to launching Tronque in Neiman Marcus and Saks Fifth Avenue.This convo is an absolute must for anyone looking to level up their body care and feel amazing in their skin.Where to Connect with Tanne and TronqueInstagram Tanne: @Tanne_SnowdenInstagram Tronque: @tronqueJoin the World's Your Oysta community!Instagram: @wyo.podTikTok: @wyo.podYoutube: World's Your Oysta PodcastWebsite & Newsletter: WYO PodcastProduced by Peoples Media Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Esports podcast specializing in feeding and Overwatch. This episode was sponsored by Factor Meals!FACTORMEALS.COM/FACTORPODCAST for 50% OFF + FREE SHIPPINGSupport Plat Chat and become a member today!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC38VAZEq3chAIPf4i2AIq7Q/joinFeaturing Matt "Mr.X" Morello, Jonathan "Reinforce" Snowden, Connor "Avast" Prince, Jack "Jaws" Wright, Kevin "AVRL" Walker, Ari "Ocie" Simmers, Kyle "Rakattack" Rakauskas, and more!

Why does Hollywood get hacking wrong in so many movies and TV series?

Iron Butterfly Podcast is back for part two of our season premiere with Katrina Mulligan!  Part two is just as fun as the first with Katrina diving back into her extraordinary career. Currently the National Security Lead at Open AI, Katrina shares her experiences as Barack Obama's paralegal before he even ran for the Senate, working on GTMO policy at the ODNI, and being Chief of Staff to the first female Secretary of the Army. Along the way, she shares some unforgettable moments and reflections. She even talks about attending Taylor Swift's The Eras Tour and making friendship bracelets with her boss!

Snowden Lane entered 2025 on a high note. The firm had an active recruiting year, expanding its national footprint and posting record profitability and revenue with approximately $12 billion in AUM.  Yet the highlight for CEO Robert Mooney was the decision to buy back a significant portion of the firm's equity from its original financial … Read More Read More

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An Apache Tomcat vulnerability is under active exploitation. CISA rehires workers ousted by DOGE. Lawmakers look to protect rural water systems from cyber threats. Western Alliance Bank notifies 22,000 individuals of a data breach. A new cyberattack method called BitM allows hackers to bypass multi-factor authentication.  A Chinese cyberespionage group targets Central European diplomats. A new cyberattack uses ChatGPT infrastructure to target the financial sector and U.S. government agencies. Australia sues a major securities firm over inadequate protection of customer data. Our Threat Vector segment examines how unifying security capabilities strengthens cyber resilience. Cybercriminals say, “Get me Edward Snowden on the line!” Remember to leave us a 5-star rating and review in your favorite podcast app. Miss an episode? Sign-up for our daily intelligence roundup, Daily Briefing, and you'll never miss a beat. And be sure to follow CyberWire Daily on LinkedIn. Threat Vector Segment Security platformization is transforming the way organizations defend against cyber threats. In this episode of Threat Vector, host David Moulton speaks with Carlos Rivera, Senior Analyst at Forrester, about how unifying security capabilities strengthens cyber resilience. To listen to the full discussion, please check out the episode here or on your favorite podcast app, and tune in to new episodes of Threat Vector by Palo Alto Networks every Thursday.  Selected Reading Critical Apache Tomcat RCE Vulnerability Exploited in Just 30hrs of Public Exploit (Cyber Security News) CISA Rehires Fired Employees, Immediately Puts Them on Leave (GovInfo Security) Western Alliance Bank Discloses Data Breach Linked to Cleo Hack (SecurityWeek) New BitM Attack Lets Hackers Steal User Sessions Within Seconds (Cyber Security News) US Lawmakers Reintroduce Bill to Boost Rural Water Cybersecurity  (SecurityWeek) Chinese Hackers Target European Diplomats with Malware (GovInfo Security) Hackers Exploit ChatGPT with CVE-2024-27564, 10,000+ Attacks in a Week (Hackread) Australia Sues FIIG Investment Firm in Cyber 'Wake-Up Call' (GovInfo Security) Extortion crew threatened to inform Edward Snowden (?!) if victim didn't pay up (The Register) Share your feedback. We want to ensure that you are getting the most out of the podcast. Please take a few minutes to share your thoughts with us by completing our brief listener survey as we continually work to improve the show.  Want to hear your company in the show? You too can reach the most influential leaders and operators in the industry. Here's our media kit. Contact us at cyberwire@n2k.com to request more info. The CyberWire is a production of N2K Networks, your source for strategic workforce intelligence. © N2K Networks, Inc. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Nick Kirby recaps the Cincinnati Reds win over the Colorado Rockies on Tuesday, and is later joined by Clay Snowden of Just Baseball. Nick and Clay discuss the strong spring from Brady Singer, Reds roster predictions, Nick Senzel leaving Major League Baseball and more.   Today's Episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjPJjEFaBD7XtBJY2VMJePmGWiDFEvG0A    DSC Commodities: https://deepsouthcommodities.com/    CALL OR TEXT 988 FOR HELP DAY OR NIGHT: https://mantherapy.org/get-help/national-resources/164/lifeline-crisis-chat    OTHER CHATTERBOX PROGRAMING:   Off The Bench: https://otbthombrennaman.podbean.com/  Chatterbox Bengals: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/chatterbox-bengals-a-cincinnati-bengals-nfl-podcast/id1652732141  Chatterbox Bearcats: https://chatterboxbearcats.podbean.com/  Dialed In with Thom Brennaman: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjPJjEFaBD7VLxmcTTWV0ubHu_cSFdEDU  Chatterbox Man on the Street: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ye-HjJdmmQ&list=PLjPJjEFaBD7V0GOh595LyjumA0bZaqwh9&pp=iAQB    FOLLOW US ON SOCIAL MEDIA:   Nick Kirby: https://twitter.com/Nicholaspkirby Trace Fowler: https://twitter.com/CBoxTrace Craig Sandlin: https://x.com/Craig_Sandlin  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cboxsports Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cboxsports/  Twitter: https://twitter.com/CBoxSports  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/cboxsports    GET CBOX GEAR:   Chatterbox Store: www.chatterboxsports.com/store  

Lex interviews Sam Williams - founder of Arweave. This episode delves into the innovative aspects of Arweave, a protocol designed for permanent data storage and computation within the Web3 ecosystem. The discussion covers a range of topics, from the economic models underpinning Arweave to its potential applications in decentralized finance (DeFi) and beyond. Notable discussion points: The Founding of Arweave and its Mission – Sam Williams' interest in distributed computing and concerns about authoritarianism led him to create Arweave in 2017. Inspired by the Snowden leaks, he saw the need for a blockchain-based permanent storage solution to protect journalism, historical records, and digital assets from censorship. Decentralized vs. Distributed Storage – Williams explained how Arweave differs from alternatives like IPFS and Filecoin. Unlike traditional storage, which requires ongoing payments, Arweave uses a one-time payment model. This storage endowment leverages declining storage costs to ensure long-term data persistence without relying on centralized infrastructure. Arweave's Expansion into Decentralized Compute – Arweave has evolved beyond storage to develop decentralized computing through "Arweave IO." This enables parallelized smart contract execution, making it possible to run AI models, financial automation, and decentralized apps on-chain—aligning with Web3's shift toward autonomous, intelligent systems.MENTIONED IN THE CONVERSATION Topics: Arweave, permanent data storage, Web3, decentralized systems, distributed systems, blockchain, economic models, IPFS, Filecoin, decentralized computing, decentralized finance, compute ABOUT THE FINTECH BLUEPRINT 

Stand Up is a daily podcast that I book,host,edit, post and promote new episodes with brilliant guests every day. Please subscribe now for as little as 5$ and gain access to a community of over 700 awesome, curious, kind, funny, brilliant, generous souls Check out StandUpwithPete.com to learn more GET TICKETS TO PODJAM II In Vegas March 27-30 Confirmed Guests! Professor Eric Segall, Dr Aaron Carroll, Maura Quint, Tim Wise, JL Cauvin, Ophira Eisenberg, Christian Finnegan and The Ladies of The Hue will all join us! Subscribe to Forever Wars For nearly the entire War on Terror, Spencer Ackerman has been a national-security correspondent for outlets like The New Republic, WIRED, The Guardian and currently The Daily Beast. He has reported from the frontlines of Afghanistan, Iraq, and Guantanamo Bay. He shared in the 2014 Pulitzer Prize for Public Service Journalism for Edward Snowden's NSA leaks to The Guardian, a series of stories that also yielded him other awards, including the Scripps Howard Foundation's 2014 Roy W. Howard Award for Public Service Reporting and the 2013 IRE medal for investigative reporting. Ackerman's WIRED series on Islamophobic counterterrorism training at the FBI won the 2012 online National Magazine Award for reporting. He frequently appears on MSNBC, CNN, and other news networks. Join us Monday's and Thursday's at 8EST for our Bi-Weekly Happy Hour Hangout!  Pete on Blue Sky Pete on Threads Pete on Tik Tok Pete on YouTube  Pete on Twitter Pete On Instagram Pete Personal FB page Stand Up with Pete FB page All things Jon Carroll  Follow and Support Pete Coe Buy Ava's Art  Hire DJ Monzyk to build your website or help you with Marketing

Crystal reports on another recent headline about a whistleblower who claims the CCP are testing mind control weapons on fintech bros domestically and abroad. “Morgellons is not a malfunction, it's biotechnofusion with intelligent, synthetic inter-dimensional funny fibers, hence my weapons-grade hilarity.”— CC

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It's Trump's third week in office and there is no shortage of news to report. Last week, RFK Jr., Kash Patel, and Tulsi Gabbard advanced in their congressional confirmation hearings for Health and Human Services secretary, FBI director, and Director of National Intelligence, and criticisms of Gabbard resurfaced over her meeting with former Syrian president Bashar al-Assad in 2017, and over her defense of Edward Snowden—who she refused to call a traitor. Meanwhile, Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu visited the United States, making him the first foreign leader invited to the new Trump White House. At a press conference with President Trump, he looked like the dog that caught the car when Trump announced that the U.S. would take control of Gaza, and that the 1.7 million people living there would be resettled elsewhere.  Trump also issued an executive order imposing a 90-day pause on foreign aid programs, which totaled around $70 billion in 2023. Meanwhile, Kanye has gone nuts again; Trump backed DOGE's cost-cutting efforts and said Elon would be heading to the Pentagon next, causing shares of defense stocks like Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman to tumble; and the vibe shift came for the Super Bowl.  To unpack it all today is Newsweek opinion editor Batya Ungar-Sargon and political fundraising powerhouse Brianna Wu. If you liked what you heard from Honestly, the best way to support us is to go to TheFP.com and become a Free Press subscriber today. --- Get $10 for free when you trade $100+ with code HONESTLY. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Edward Snowden is largely only a public name thanks to Glenn Greenwald's reporting, for which he was one of the contributors to a Pulitzer Prize-winning series for The Guardian in 2014. For a while, Matt Taibbi was considered the heir to Hunter Thompson when his gonzo journalism tore open the 2008 financial crisis and gave the public the term “vampire squids.”  Yet in more recent years, both men have swerved right: Glenn became a darling on Fox News and Taibbi was recruited by Elon Musk as one of the Twitter Files “journalists.” How did that happen? We're joined by journalist Eoin Higgins, whose new book, Owned: How Tech Billionaires on the Right Bought the Loudest Voices on the Left, dives into the career arcs of both Greenwald and Taibbi, and how they confuse and distort right-left alignments. Show Notes Sharath Jois, Heir to Founder of Ashtanga Yoga, Dies at 53 - The New York Times Sharath's Statement on Pattabhi Jois's Assaults: Context, Links, Notes – Matthew Remski  Surviving Modern Yoga - North Atlantic Books  Owned: How Tech Billionaires on the Right Bought the Loudest Voices on the Left Eoin Higgins Morning Brew | Bluesky Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

During her confirmation hearing to become Director of National Intelligence in the Trump administration, former Democratic Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard exposed some of the most egregious lies and failures of the intelligence community — information the vast majority of Americans have never been exposed to before. Jimmy and Americans' Comedian Kurt Metzger discuss the shocking revelations contained just in Tulsi's opening statement. Plus segments on Tulsi's refusal to accede to Dem Senators' demand that she label Edward Snowden a “traitor,” Senator Maggie Hassan's brain dead questions for RFK Jr. and Trump's promised imposition of tariffs on Mexico, Canada and China. Also featuring Mike MacRae and Stef Zamorano. And a phone call from Alec Baldwin!

Tonight on The Last Word: Families mourn the victims of the D.C. plane crash. Also, NBC News reports two black boxes were recovered on the regional jet. Plus, DNI pick Tulsi Gabbard refuses to condemn Edward Snowden. And Democratic senators grill Trump FBI pick Kash Patel. Capt. Sully Sullenberger, Sen. Tammy Duckworth, Sen. Mark Warner, and Andrew Weissmann join Lawrence O'Donnell.

The Rich Zeoli Show- Full Episode (01/30/2025): 3:05pm- On Wednesday night, an American Airlines flight from Wichita, Kansas carrying 64 people collided with an Army Black Hawk helicopter at Reagan National Airport outside of Washington, D.C. The collision caused both aircrafts to fall into the Potomac River. 3:15pm- In a press conference to address the deadly collision at Reagan National Airport, President Donald Trump suggested diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) policies and hiring practices may have played a role in the disaster. When asked by reporters why he believed DEI may have had an impact, Trump responded: “because I have common sense.” 3:20pm- On Thursday, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., President Donald Trump's nominee to serve as Secretary of Health and Human Services, testified before the Senate Health Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee. During one exchange, Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) claimed that America's healthcare system is broken—Kennedy adroitly noted that members of Congress, including Sanders, have accepted “millions of dollars from the pharmaceutical industry.” 3:40pm- On Thursday, Donald Trump's nominee to serve as FBI Director, Kash Patel, participated in a confirmation hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee. 4:00pm- In a press conference to address the deadly collision at Reagan National Airport, President Donald Trump suggested diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) policies and hiring practices may have played a role in the disaster. When asked by reporters why he believed DEI may have had an impact, Trump responded: “because I have common sense.” 4:30pm- The Senate Foreign Relations Committee has advanced Elise Stefanik's confirmation vote to become U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations—she is expected to be confirmed by the full Senate next week. Similarly, Doug Burgum is expected to be confirmed as Secretary of the Interior. Rich says he can't even remember Burgum's confirmation hearing—Matt suggests it's because it was completely uneventful because no one asked about his rattlesnake recipes or his well-kept hair. 4:40pm- On Thursday, Tulsi Gabbard, President Donald Trump's nominee to serve as Director of National Intelligence, testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee. In her opening statement, Gabbard—a former Congressmember and currently serving as a lieutenant colonel in the U.S. Army Reserves—said the weaponization of the intelligence community “must end.” She also vociferously denied being a “puppet” for Trump, Vladimir Putin, Bashar al-Assad, Narendra Modi, or anyone else as Democrats have baselessly claimed. 5:05pm During her confirmation hearing, Tulsi Gabbard was asked if she believes Edward Snowden is a traitor. In her response, Gabbard laid out four steps she would take to guarantee there is never a similar intelligence leak. Following the hearing, Senator James Lankford (R-OK) said he was “surprised” by Gabbard's answer—noting that it “doesn't seem like a hard question.” According to reports, Lankford is believed to be undecided about voting to confirm Gabbard as Director of National Intelligence. 5:30pm- During Robert Kennedy Jr.'s confirmation hearing, Senator Rand Paul grilled Democrats and explained that people are becoming vaccine hesitant because they don't trust government—noting COVID-19 vaccine mandates for young children despite scientific evidence suggesting it was unnecessary. 5:45pm- On Thursday, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., President Donald Trump's nominee to serve as Secretary of Health and Human Services, testified before the Senate Health Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee. During one exchange, Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) claimed that America's healthcare system is broken—Kennedy adroitly noted that members of Congress, including Sanders, have accepted “millions of dollars from the pharmaceutical industry.” 6:00pm- Penn State Basketball

The Rich Zeoli Show- Hour 3: 5:05pm During her confirmation hearing, Tulsi Gabbard was asked if she believes Edward Snowden is a traitor. In her response, Gabbard laid out four steps she would take to guarantee there is never a similar intelligence leak. Following the hearing, Senator James Lankford (R-OK) said he was “surprised” by Gabbard's answer—noting that it “doesn't seem like a hard question.” According to reports, Lankford is believed to be undecided about voting to confirm Gabbard as Director of National Intelligence. 5:30pm- During Robert Kennedy Jr.'s confirmation hearing, Senator Rand Paul grilled Democrats and explained that people are becoming vaccine hesitant because they don't trust government—noting COVID-19 vaccine mandates for young children despite scientific evidence suggesting it was unnecessary. 5:45pm- On Thursday, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., President Donald Trump's nominee to serve as Secretary of Health and Human Services, testified before the Senate Health Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee. During one exchange, Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) claimed that America's healthcare system is broken—Kennedy adroitly noted that members of Congress, including Sanders, have accepted “millions of dollars from the pharmaceutical industry.” 6:00pm- Penn State Basketball

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President Trump's pick for director of national intelligence faces skepticism from both sides at her Senate confirmation hearing. Is her nomination in jeopardy, after she refuses to call Edward Snowden a traitor and then deflects a question on reforming Section 702 surveillance? Plus, FBI Director designate Kash Patel splits with Trump on commutations for violent Jan. 6 rioters.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today's Headlines: A commercial jet and a U.S. Army Black Hawk helicopter collided over the Potomac River near Washington, D.C., killing all on board. The FAA was understaffed at the time, and no administrator was in place. Trump responded by appointing an acting FAA commissioner and ordering a review of DEI policies. Meanwhile, Trump reaffirmed that tariffs on Canada and Mexico will begin tomorrow but left details vague. His cabinet hearings continued, with RFK Jr., Kash Patel, and Tulsi Gabbard facing scrutiny over controversial past statements and actions. The FCC launched an investigation into NPR and PBS over alleged sponsorship violations, signaling a possible move to defund public broadcasting. The U.S. economy grew 2.3% in 2024, slightly slowing from the previous year. Finally, eight Hamas-held hostages were released in Gaza, leaving no known living female hostages in captivity. An American hostage is expected to be freed next. Resources/Articles mentioned in this episode: NY Times: Live Updates: No Survivors After Plane and Helicopter Crash Near Washington, Officials Say The Verge: The FAA is facing a major crisis without a leader because Elon Musk pushed him out NY Times: Trump Blames D.E.I. and Biden for Crash Under His Watch  Axios: Trump promises tariffs on Canada, Mexico on Feb. 1  NBC News: RFK Jr. stumbles on Medicaid at Senate confirmation hearing NY Times: Kash Patel, Trump's FBI Pick, Works to Persuade Senators in Confirmation Hearing  NBC News: Gabbard faces tough questions from Republicans over her flip-flops on Snowden and federal surveillance program CNN: Trump's FCC is investigating NPR and PBS stations over sponsorships  Axios: U.S. economy wraps 2024 on solid footing with 2.3% growth rate Axios: Hamas releases another eight hostages as part of Gaza ceasefire deal Morning Announcements is produced by Sami Sage alongside Bridget Schwartz and edited by Grace Hernandez-Johnson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Megyn Kelly begins the show by talking with aviation experts John Hansman and Matthew "Whiz" Buckley about the tragic plane and helicopter crash in Washington D.C., what likely caused it, how rare this type of accident is, and more. Then Glenn Greenwald, host of Rumble's "System Update," joins to discuss the attacks on Tulsi Gabbard during her senate confirmation hearing, the non-stop focus on Edward Snowden, why Gabbard wouldn't say Snowden isn't a "traitor" when pressed on it, Gabbard's fight against the bipartisan establishment, the hypocrisy about leaking classified documents, Kash Patel sparring with Democratic senators like Amy Klobuchar and Richard Blumenthal at his confirmation hearing, the truth about the Deep State, and more. Then Calley Means, author of "Good Energy," joins to make a direct plea to GOP Senator Bill Cassidy to vote yes on RFK Jr., the truth about toxins and children's health, how to restore trust in science, the fear-mongering about RFK Jr. from the left and the right, the corporate capture and deference to Big Pharma, the attempts to distract from the real issues, and more.Buckley- https://nofallenheroesfoundation.org/Hansman- https://aeroastro.mit.edu/people/r-john-hansman/Greenwald- https://rumble.com/c/GGreenwaldMeans- https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/727184/good-energy-by-casey-means-md-and-calley-means/JustThrive: Visit https://JustThriveHealth.com and use code MEGYN for 20% off your first 90 day bottle.Birch Gold: Text MK to 989898 and get your free info kit on goldFirecracker Farm: Get 10% off with code MK at https://Firecracker.Farm/Grand Canyon University: https://GCU.eduFollow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MegynKellyTwitter: http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShowInstagram: http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShowFacebook: http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShow Find out more information at: https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow

Republican senators don't care that Trump's nominees are lying—like Kash pretending he didn't know a Nazi-adjacent podcaster whose show he's been on eight times—because the confirmation process to them is all a game and truth is irrelevant. And nominees are also mad-flipping on their signatures issues: RFK, Jr. on vaccines, Tulsi on Edward Snowden, and Kash on the Jan 6 cop beaters. Meanwhile, RFK knows embarrassingly little about the programs he'd be administering, Democrats should try combat on for size, and the Fox hosts/reality show stars turned in quite a performance after the first plane crash in 16 years.  Tommy Vietor joins Tim Miller.