Cloud Native in 15 Minutes

In this episode, Adib and Michael discuss the concept of 'Agentic AI' and its historical context within technology evolution. They talk about how new UX patterns and capabilities have defined different technological eras and examine where AI agents fit in this narrative. They explore the role of executives in integrating AI into their businesses, emphasizing the importance of experimenting, learning constraints, and understanding UX-driven applications. The conversation spans practical insights, user-centric experimentation, and the future impacts of AI in enterprise environments Links mentioned: Adib on agentic AI. Another write-up of what executives can do to help AI at their organization, from Camille Crowell-Lee. Adib in LinkedIn. Adib's blog.

In this episode of Tanzu Talk, Coté and Purnima Padmanabhan discuss the evolving landscape of private vs. public cloud infrastructure and the crucial role of developer platforms. Purnima elaborates on the need for a seamless developer experience, focusing on the advantages of Tanzu Platform 10 and its new features. They wrap up with insights on upcoming announcements for the Tanzu product suite at the Explore Barcelona conference. Check out the Tanzu Platform for our recommended private cloud platform.

In this episode, Purnima Padmanabhan, the general manager of Tanzu at Broadcom, talks with Coté about the evolution of DevOps and platform engineering. Purnima has worked at many interesting over the years LoudCloud, BMC Software, and VMware. That experience gives her a great perspective on the industry's ongoing journey to empower developers to deploy code into production quickly and reliably. The discussion follows the industry innovations and trends from early infrastructure automation to the rise of cloud computing and the emergence of platform engineering.   Purnima highlights the enduring challenge of bridging the gap between development and operations, emphasizing that the core objective remains consistent: accelerating the time it takes to move code into production. She underscores the importance of continuous improvement, noting that the industry is still striving for perfection. The conversation also delves into the nuances of platform engineering and DevOps, exploring the balance between standardization and flexibility, the role of automation in fostering trust, and the enduring need for both development and operations roles.   Purnima also discusses her experiences at various companies and the lessons she's learned throughout her career. Listen in to this 20+ year journey from LoudCloud's early foray into cloud computing to BMC's focus on process automation and VMware's cloud management solutions, all the way up the Tanzu's focus on cloud native development and platforms.   Find Purnima in LinkedIn. And check in on Tanzu.   Chapters:    00:00 Introduction 00:23 DevOps Evolution 01:30 Platform Engineering and Automation 02:24 LoudCloud and Early Cloud Innovations 03:10 BMC Software and Process Automation 04:30 Pivotal and Tanzu Division 09:06 The pull to on-premises 12:12 What ever happened to ITIL? 12:57 ITIL and Service Management 14:41 Remediation and Repaving 19:02 Moka5 21:03 Security Startups 21:40 VMware 22:49 Startup Experience in Large Organizations 26:51 Future of DevOps and Platform Engineering 30:15 Wrap up

JT Perry is back to talk about enterprise AI in healthcare. They also talk about the status of new business models like "doc in a box" and Amazon Health. See the full show notes in the video version of this episode.

Fresh from working on developer platforms at Uber, Serdar Badem tells us his experience working on improving developer productivity. He's working at Tanzu now and so he also discusses the work we're doing to help improve developer productivity.

The phrase "value stream" is used so often in software development that it's easy to forget exactly what it means. "Waste" is another word like that. In this episode, Coté talks with Steve Pereira about value stream mappings, what waste is, exactly, and why it's so difficult to do what seems like an obviously good idea, like value stream mapping. - Steve in LinkedIn. - Steve's book. - Flow community. - Awesome waste/countermeasure handout, including definitions of waste.

In this episode Coté talks with Laura Tacho, the CTO of DX on several topics, starting with tech debt. Laura shares her viewpoint on how the concept and use of 'tech debt' changes based on perspective, and the need for better quantification of these concepts for businesses. They also discuss developer productivity metrics and three types of meetings. Read all of Laura's great articles here.

You always hear that making a series of small changes is better than BIG BANG change. How does this really play out though? Doesn't that seem a little...naive when it comes to large organizations doing the BIG and MISSION CRITICAL work?  In this episode, Coté talks with Betty Junod on this topic. She draws from many sources like her first hand experience as an executive and working with the DevOps and cloud native community. They also discuss making culture changes in organizations and how recent work to figure out how to determine "business value." Watch the video of this recording if you prefer that kind of thing. Mentions: - Betty in LinkedIn. - Betty in Twitter. - The Developer Platform paper. - The Role of a Platform paper. - No Developer Left behind paper.

Ben educates Coté on what Backstage is. Coté is always thinking that new tech does more than it actually does, and he eagerly de-scopes his inflated expectations with Ben's wiseness. This is the most detailed explanation of the core of Backstage you're likely to see, and the two only about third of the Backstage ecosystem overall. See Ben at BackStageCon, Nov 6th, 2023 in Chicago.

The three of us are back to discuss what a service mesh is and why it exists as a stand-alone thing. The result we come to is that you want this kind of network control and management as its own layer, not something that's built into the stack. Check out the video if you prefer that. Come see us at: VMware Explore EU, Nov, 2023. SpringOne Tour Amsterdam, Oct 9th, 2023. SpringOne Tour London, Oct 12th. Links: Gartner's overview: Market Guide for Service Mesh. GigaOm's Service mesh radar.

What does a car manufacture need to do to speed up their software delivery cycle? Manufacturing is often finely tuned following lean and other principles, but the software development and delivery process, oddly, is not. In this episode, we talk about he last five years of software transformation at Jaguar Land Rover (JLR). We discuss the type of software JLR creates for itself, the need to change to transform (driven by quality and speed of delivery), putting CI/CD in place, challenges to change management (mostly about people), and the mismatch between finance and software. Check out Mike in LinkedIn. Also, you can watch the video of this episode here, if you like that kind of thing.

Coté talks with Bryan Ross about fitting Kubernetes (and it's use) into the business strategy. Check out Bryan's YouTube channel for more Bryan.

"75% of IT and business executives say that their companies' ability to compete is directly related to their ability to release quality software quickly" reads a recent Forrester Consulting report. If that's the case, why are so many developer in large organizations have a bad developer experience? Paul Kelly wrote up the case for good DevEx and what it looks like for developers on the VMware Tanzu blog recently. In this episode, Cora and Coté talk with him about the blog. Paul also wrote two books on Visual COBOL so, naturally, we open up by talking about COBOL. Why did we ever need more? You can watch the original, streamed video if you like that kind of thing. Links: A Developer Perspective on Developer Experience, the blog in question. Paul on CI/CD. More article from Paul. Paul's books: Visual COBOL: A Developer's Guide to Modern COBOL and Visual COBOL: New Application Modernization Tools for the Java Developer. Paul in LinkedIn.

In this episode, Coté talks with Corey Dinkens about Tanzu Mission Control. The most recent version can now run on-premises, meaning those who can't run it as a public SaaS now can run Tanzu Mission Control where ever they like, on or off the Internet. We also discuss Tanzu Mission Control in general and some other new features. Learn more about Tanzu Mission Control: - More about the new release here. - Corey's quick demo of Tanzu Mission Control. - More about all of Tanzu Mission Control here.

So you've built an app platform. And those pesky developers aren't showing up to use. Or, worse, they grumble about it! Did you remember to tell anyone about it, to convince them to use it? You know: marketing! Also, they'll need to know how to use it. And you know what that means! Documentation.  In this episode, Coté and Ben talk about the basics platform marketing: brand, principles, advocacy, internal conferences, and more. They also discuss the role of Backstage in making platforms better, as well as everyday developer life. You can also watch the video of this episode, if you prefer that kind of thing. Be sure to check out VMware's platforms: For the Kubernetes fans out there: Tanzu Application Platform. And for the PaaS fans: The Tanzu Application Service (based on Cloud Foundry).

This week, Ben and Ed try to help Coté understand what the changes in RHEL open source development mean. We don't figure it out completely, but get close enough. Also, Ed tells us what Crossplane is. Finally, we briefly discuss two new reports from Gartner and Forrester that seek to define the cloud native application stack.

Right after Cloud Foundry Day 2023, Nick and Coté do a quick re-cap of the day. Taking place in Germany, there were many people from the German community, and elsewhere of course. Nick goes over his little talk which focused on Cloud Foundry usage and metrics. His recent post on The New Stack includes a lot of the same content. Keep an eye on the Cloud Foundry YouTube channel for recordings of all the talks, including Nick's and Coté's.

Cloud Foundry is one of the most mature, most proven platform as a service stacks. And it's open source! Ahead of CF Day on June 21st, 2023 (in person and live), Coté catches up with Ram Iyengar, Chief Evangelist at Cloud Foundry Foundation. They discuss Cloud Foundry's integrations with Kubernetes and related projects, organizations that use and contribute to Cloud Foundry, how Cloud Foundry fits into platform engineering think (and doesn't), the Cloud Foundry Foundation, and how Ram ended up being a developer advocate. Cloud Foundry Day is on June 21st, 2023 in Heidelberg, Germany. It's in person and online, so you can attend whether you're in person, or cozy at home. It's free to attend online. Register for Cloud Foundry Day here. Cloud Foundry. Ram in Twitter. Ram in LinkedIn. Also, check out VMware's Cloud Foundry distro, the Tanzu Application Service (formally Pivotal Cloud Foundry).

In this episode, Cora and Coté talk with Abby Bangser about the platform maturity model draft that the platform working group at the CNCF has been working on. While the draft is a work in progress, the model the team is developed is extremely useful for thinking about how you build and run your platform team. Check out the interview, and if you're interested in more, take a look at the draft paper. If you're really full of beans, you can also contribute. You can also watch the video of this episode if you prefer. As Abby mentioned, you can find her by searching for Abby Bangser in most social and web places. She's @a_bangser in Twitter, @abangser.bsky.social in Bluesky, @abangser in Mastodon, and, of course, in LinkedIn.

We talk about getting PCI compliance into Kubernetes, and other security think in the cloud native world. Securing Tanzu Application Service and Tanzu Application Platform. David Zendzian talks with Cora and Coté about what exactly “security” means in the cloud native context. They use his upcoming paper on PCI compliance as an example throughout. See David in LinkedIn, Twitter, and charming home page. Watch the video of this interview if you prefer that format.

This week, Coté and Ben talk about using AI for software development, and general text use. They check in on Kubernetes usability for application developers, and give their takes on the recent microservices vs. monoliths dust-up. There's a bonus discussions about cycling in London and regional sausage taxonomies, right at the beginning to whet your appetite. You can also watch the video of our recording as well.   Mentioned items: The platform talk Coté gave at DevoxxUK. Steak chips. Sausage and mustard chips. Running the AI stuff locally. Kuberenetes tool usage. Kubernetes benefits for developers and the business. Amazon streaming moves from serverless.

We discuss what we did at KubeCon, the recent VMware State of Kubernetes 2023 survey, and the smells of platform engineering maturity. Also, some tips on daily logging and to do list management. Here is the original video recording if you're into that kind of thing. As ever, with your three friends: @egrigson, @benbravo73, & @cote. Links and Notes The 2023 State of Kubernetes Survey is fully out. The new component is looking at the benefits of Kubernetes. Distro/service marketshare - VMware is steadily climbing up, yay! Coté's multi-cloud usage take. Including a great chart from IDC on where workloads are living. More: we need to start thinking of "multi-cloud" as just meaning "all the computers and stuff we run." Putting the word "cloud" in there makes it seem like magic cloud stuff, when all we are/should be talking about is the entire, heterogeneous IT estate. Something like 60% of people say it makes developer more productive, even more say there are operational benefits (64%). The developer productive part is confusing given the middling "shorten developer release cycle" figures over the years. But, whatever! 10% drop in developers owning and managing Kubernetes. Related, from McKinsey engineers: "As a rule of thumb, if developers spend more than, say, 10 to 20 percent of their coding time on container configuration, failover, security, or other infrastructure issues, it makes more sense to tackle these issues via CSP services instead, so that valuable time and skills can be reserved for functionality that serves the business." An idea for how many apps are running in Kubernetes, finally! While writing blog posts for the survey, I found this: Gartner estimates that "by 2027, 25% of all enterprise applications will run in containers, an increase from fewer than 10% in 2021." We're somewhere in between there in 2021, likely closer to 10% than 25%. KubeCon EU 2023 What's Ed's take - Edward Grigson actually did some work (unlike social loafers, like Coté)! E.g.: "FinOps for Platform Engineering – I spoke to their CEO at KubeconEU and got a demo. Looks good – very flexible and easy to use." Found three new vendors: Palantir Apollo, Mia.Platform, Port / Cortex. Jon Collins @ GigaOm: lines still being drawn around the components, WebAssembly. Best of breed vs. integrated platform. Robot: "The cloud-native world is maturing, and a multi-platform architecture will help build better manageability and governance in the future." And, Robot summarizing his platform engineering take: "Platforms are important, but the author argues for the need for multi-platform engineering (MPE) to understand and manage multiple clouds, stacks, and toolchains.The MPE group should be focused on empowering and enabling its users, acting as a product group for the entire organization." Daniel Bryant on dev stuff, full blog post. VMware schwag review: people love metal water bottles, not so much bottle openers. There are a lot of gambling service people in EU crowds. Software Defined Talk at/on KubeCon. Though I was one of the three people (t)here, I don't really remember what we talked about except the Dirk bread claw. So it goes with me and podcasts. Ben was not at KubeCon EU (sadface) but his YouTube picks are:Evolution of WASM: Past, Present, and Future - Bailey Hayes, Cosmonic The State of Backstage in 2023 - Ben Lambert & Patrik Oldsberg, Spotify Choose Your Own Adventure: The Treacherous Trek to Development - Whitney Lee & Viktor Farcic How to Blow up a Kubernetes Cluster - Felix Hoffmann, iteratec Platform Engineering Strategy stuff: Platform Maturity Model paper, draft here.

In this episode, Coté is joined by Fouad Hamdi, to discuss a project he worked on to modernize of a 30-year-old mainframe app. Fouad provides a comprehensive breakdown of how he and his team at VMware Tanzu Labs approached this task, migrating a system relied on by over 3 million users from a mainframe infrastructure to a microservices architecture. Read the original blog post they discuss here. Details Fouad and Coté delve into the initial goals for mainframe modernization, the constraints, and past attempts at modernization that shaped the path they took. Fouad shares how they managed to migrate safely and at a rapid pace, all while maintaining the existing system's functionality. Listen as Fouad walks us through how the team  leveraged the power of event storming workshops and Domain Driven Design (DDD) to understand the business domain and identify key areas for modernization. They discuss the challenges of working with older technologies like COBOL, and the strategies they used to bring business knowledge to a new generation of developers. They also explore how the team navigated complex issues such as coexistence between the old and new systems, and how they incrementally built the new system to avoid any disruption of service. Fouad shares invaluable insights into the importance of context in these modernization efforts, and the lessons they learned along the way. Whether you're a software engineer, an architect, or a business leader looking to modernize your own systems, this episode is filled with practical advice and lessons learned from modernizing a mainframe application. Tune in to learn from Fouad's experience and to understand how you can apply these lessons to your own mainframe modernization journey. More Read the original blog post. Fouad's Blog. Fouad in LinkedIn.

A lot goes into getting a platform up and running. Before you even get to that point, though, you'll need to put together a business case and the plans for your platform. In this episode, Coté talks with Kerry Schaffer about that business case, but also about the role of developer happiness and platform marketing. We also discuss getting more women into IT and Kerry's work with the Women's Security Alliance.   Find Kerry in LinkedIn and Twitter.

With Backstage, more Windows support, support for MySQL 8.0, and numerous other improvements, the new release of the Tanzu Application Service is packed. In this episode, Nick Kuhn walks us through the highlights of the Tanzu Application Service 4.0. Nick goes over the 4.0 release in detail in a blog post. Everything you'd want to know about the Tanzu Application Service. Find Nick in Twitter and LinkedIn.

We should start distinguishing between on-premises kubernetes and public cloud kubernetes. Also, it looks like improving developer productivity improves everything. That's what Ben and Coté conclude after look over a recent analyst report ranking kubernetes distros/services and a survey on developer experience efforts in organizations. The two reports: Justin's report at GigaOm, also here. Forrester Consulting's survey on platform engineering. Here's the video of the recording if prefer that kind of thing.

In the DevOps, cloud, platform world we're told that operations people starting working closely with developers. This week @thecote been asked "does that really happen?" several times. We discuss the orly on that. Also, Ben and Coté talk about the Spring Framework community. Here is the video recording this episode if you prefer that kind of thing.

What is VMware Tanzu? I get asked this question a lot and, you know, I try to explain it. If you want a really good explanation, you should check out a new book on the topic, DevSecOps in Practice with VMware Tanzu. It's expansive and in-depth, not only on the parts of Tanzu, but also the theory, ideas, and ways of working that Tanzu embodies. Cora Iberkleid joins me (Coté) to interview the authors of the book, Parth Pandit and Rob Hardt. Here's the book from Packt, in O'Reilly Safari, and in Amazon.  Here's a longer description of the book from the publisher: As Kubernetes (or K8s) becomes more prolific, managing large clusters at scale in a multi-cloud environment becomes more challenging – especially from a developer productivity and operational efficiency point of view. DevSecOps in Practice with VMware Tanzu addresses these challenges by automating the delivery of containerized workloads and controlling multi-cloud Kubernetes operations using Tanzu tools. This comprehensive guide begins with an overview of the VMWare Tanzu platform and discusses its tools for building useful and secure applications using the App Accelerator, Build Service, Catalog service, and API portal. Next, you'll delve into running those applications efficiently at scale with Tanzu Kubernetes Grid and Tanzu Application Platform. As you advance, you'll find out how to manage these applications, and control, observe, and connect them using Tanzu Mission Control, Tanzu Observability, and Tanzu Service Mesh. Finally, you'll explore the architecture, capabilities, features, installation, configuration, implementation, and benefits of these services with the help of examples. By the end of this VMware book, you'll have gained a thorough understanding of the VMWare Tanzu platform and be able to efficiently articulate and solve real-world business problems. What you will learn Build apps to run as containers using predefined templates Generate secure container images from application source code Build secure open source backend services container images Deploy and manage a Kubernetes-based private container registry Manage a multi-cloud deployable Kubernetes platform Define a secure path to production for Kubernetes-based applications Streamline multi-cloud Kubernetes operations and observability Connect containerized apps securely using service mesh Who this book is for This book is for cloud platform engineers and DevOps engineers who want to learn about the operations of tools under the VMware Tanzu umbrella. The book also serves as a useful reference for application developers and solutions architects as well as IT leaders who want to understand how business and security outcomes can be achieved using the tools covered in this book. Prior knowledge of containers and Kubernetes will help you get the most out of this book.

There's been a lot of talk about controlling cloud costs by bringing workloads back to the datacenter, you know, private cloud. The three of us discuss what's going on here. Also, surveys consistently show that only about half of developers are doing continuous integration (CI), and fewer are doing continuous delivery (CD). Can that be real? Ben doesn't think so. We also discuss how secure software supply chain thinking might change the tight coupling between CI/CD, making that slash back into a wall between the two: CI|CD. Also, Ben reveals his cartography background.   If subscribe to our show, you'll definitely be interested in the golden path series of talks this year. Check them out, for free, at SpringOne.io. Also, the CFP for SpringOne 2023 is open now, apply! As ever, with your three friends: @egrigson, @benbravo73, & @cote. Here's the original video with some bonus content on listening while jogging. Links discussed: Technology Chiefs Seek Help Wrangling Cloud Costs. O'Reilly cloud adoption survey, 2021. State of Continuous Delivery Report: The Evolution of Software Delivery Performance, Feb 2022. Ben's kid's YouTube Channel: Wibbles Wobbly Life!

You've been asked to build a cloud native cloud platform. The developers need some containers, probably some orchestration. So, what do you now? In this episode, Coté talks with ITQ's Robert Kloosterhuis about just this topic. Drawing on Robert's background as a virtualization admin and now, the Tanzu portfolio of stuff, they go through the type of thinking and work ITQ does with customers. Also, some tips on getting around Amsterdam for the people coming in for KubeCon EU. Check out the live recording in video form, if you prefer that kind of thing. Link & Notes Robert in Twitter, in Mastodon, and his blog. ITQ's Managed Modern Apps Services. Kubernetes Community Days Amsterdam 2023. VMUG NL. KubeCon EU. Cloud Native Rejekts.

The CNCF has a new kubernetes survey out and it has some interesting findings. We discuss several of them and our takes on them. Also, fresh back from cfmgmtcamp in Ghent, Coté talks about a new entrant in the configuration and release management space, System Initiative.    As ever, with your three friends: @egrigson, @benbravo73, & @cote. Here's the original video we streamed live if you're into that kind of thing.

In this episode, we check in on the Spring community by looking at the most recent State of Spring survey. While in survey land, we look at the Dynatrace Kubernetes in the Wild study: what are the top languages used in kubernetes, and how is on-premises use shaping up> Also, SpringOne was great, and now there's so much more of it each week until the next SpringOne this fall. And, check out how smooth Ben is at picking up MC duties when Coté's internet stops working.   Here is the original, unedited video stream if you're into that kind of thing.   Apologies that this episode is a week late posting. Coté got busy.   As ever, with your three friends: @egrigson, @benbravo73, & @cote. Links & Notes SpringOne Essentials 2023 - watch it all now. More SpringOne every week with the Golden Path to Spring One - Every Tuesday & Thursday at 2pm Eastern Time. Beginning January 31 and leading up to SpringOne at VMware Explore in Las Vegas, August 2023. Watch it here! The State Of Spring Survey 2022 Dynatrace Kubernetes study What is Shipa?

What's the deal with low code? After discussing current IT spending forecasts, Ed, Ben, and Coté discuss some recent thinking on how low code seems to fit into your business. We also discuss the organization structures needed for doing platform engineering and all that. As ever, with your three friends: @egrigson, @benbravo73, & @cote. Discussed: IT forecast Worldwide IT spending is projected to total $4.5 trillion in 2023, an increase of 2.4% from 2022, according to the latest forecast by Gartner, Inc. This is down from the previous quarter's forecast of 5.1% growth. While that's declined, software and IT Services still have a lot of growth, hardware is pulling growth down: “The software and IT services segments are projected to grow 9.3% and 5.5% in 2023, respectively. The devices segment is forecast to decline 5.1% this year as both consumers and enterprises lengthen device refresh cycles.” Summary from Coté's newsletter. What's up with "low-code" - what is Ed seeing, what does Ben think? On Organizational Structures and the Developer Experience - If you're working on developer tools, you need a different org structure than working on public cloud services. // “The reality is that org structures that have been designed to iterate and produce services at scale are not likely to satisfactorily address gaps between the services that negatively impact developer experiences without at least some change. If there's no appetite for that, progress is likely to be limited.”

It's the last episode of the year so the three of us go over not only predictions in the cloud native space, but also our hopes for what happens. Also, there's special guest ChatGPT on its predictions and a surprise piece of advice for New Year's Day. In the original video of this recording, at the end you get a bonus overview of GNOME from Ben. A bit of a spoiler for you: platform engineering, more edge, consolidation of the app and kubernetes stack and platforms. Also, a shocking hope about GNOME (Linux desktops)!

In this episode, we discuss the use of accelerators in the Tanzu Application Platform to help developers start programming quickly and efficiently. We also touch on some of the developer-focused announcements made at the recent AWS re:Invent conference. Finally, we have a discussion about ChatGPT experiments and their potential to reduce the amount of tedious work for office workers. Ben expresses some concerns about the technology, but Coté offers a compelling argument for its usefulness.† Be sure to check out Ben's new talk about Backstage in the Tanzu Application Platform GUI including: Accelerators (code templates), secure software supply chain visualization, API documentation, and more! If you prefer video, here is the original recording, it has some bonus monster truck material:  Links discussed in the show: We talk about Ben's recent video on templates (“accelerators”) in the Tanzu Application Platform. Also, we discuss the supply chain demo he does in that same video. AWS Re:Invent news. Another 2 hr keynote with plenty of new services, many on the data side of things, plus the usual new EC2 instances. We talk about CodeCatalyst and AppComposer. Check out last week's Software Defined Talk overview for more. ChatGPT - an AI powered bot that's been in my timeline a few times this week. From the same people that provide Dall-E, AI assisted drawing from natural language. SpectroCloud gave it a Kubernetes focused interview and it did pretty well. This feels like Boston Dynamics showcasing their robot inventions, in that it simultaneously amazes the public at large and scares them in equal measure. Unfortunately it doesn't respond to ‘Shall we play a game?' (for those that remember War Games and WOPR) - that would have been a cool Easter egg! See Coté's experiments and take on it too. † This week's description written by ChatGPT with the prompt: “Can you write a podcast episode summary for me? We talked about some developer tools that help start programming (called accelerators) in our own product (the Tanzu Application Platform), then about a few developer things at AWS re:Invent. And then Coté talked a long time about ChatGPT experiments and his theory about how it can help reduce office worker toil. Ben was a bit scared.”

Ben educates Coté on what exactly native Java is and goes over GraalVM. They also discuss what Spring Native is and why it exists.  You can also watch the video version of this episode. Links More on Spring Boot 3.0. Spring Native here.

There was a lot going on at VMware Explore Europe last week, so we focus in on the Tanzu related stuff. Then: we do our usual check-in on platform engineering; a brief magic quadrant tour; see if there's any lessons to learn from Twitter the company; and close out discussing VMware's recent open source supply chain survey.   VMware Explore EU: Cindy's round-up. Tanzu Kubernetes Grid 2.1 - including support for Oracle Cloud. Tanzu Mission Control - getting air gap stuff working (not out yet?). Tanzu Service Mesh Advanced - roadmap announcements about: auto-discovering kubernetes and VM things; integrating with TAP to do security policy stuff; adding in running config stuff out of git (for, you know, GitOps). Aria Graph, GA (previewed/announced in US): "Today at VMware Explore Europe, VMware is announcing the availability of a new freemium offering of VMware Aria Hub powered by VMware Aria Graph. This new free tier offering enables customers to inventory, map, filter, and search resources from up to two of their native public cloud accounts in either Amazon Web Services or Microsoft Azure." More stuff: Bitnami updates, sovereign cloud stuff (working with partners to stand-up Tanzu in regional clouds). Hear Ben's talk from Explore EU -  “Tutorial: Introduction to VMware Tanzu Application Platform Big Backstage Feels: RedHat joins.  Coté's interview with The Frontside.  Our always good Gartner paper on internal developer platforms, free to read.  Also, more hammering away at "platform engineering." The CNCF's Platforms Working Group are trying to define what a platform would include - details here. We're past the "DevOps is Dead" phase, which is nice. I think we can say "Developer Experience" without feeling dorky too. Even "DX." New public cloud MQ, for IaaS+PaaS. Rank (first to last): AWS, Microsoft, Google, Alibaba, Oracle, IBM, Tencent, Huawei. Transforming Twitter: Finally, an example of the "pathological" column in the Westerum table. Clearly Elon's not a fan of Microservice Architectures - some weird monolith/microservices/de-platform stuff to observe. In the context of the DevOps/cloud native community - planning for a potential loss of the place to talk. Mastodon growing:  Coté in Mastodon: @cote@hachyderm.io. Interesting thoughts from David Heinemeier on the layoffs State Of Supply Chain Survey Devs go faster and are more productive with supply chains New tools: Tanzu Image Builder - for packaging your OSS for enterprise use (amongst other things) Coté did a little video on the study. Check out that Sam Elliott 'stach!

What's going on in the Cloud Foundry community? In this episode, Ben and Coté are joined by Nick Kuhn (a return guest!) to talk about the recent Cloud Foundry Day at KubeCon. They discuss Cloud Foundry on kubernetes, build packs, Detroit pizza, and singing the hits of the day back in the late 80s. Mentioned: The Application Service Adaptor to wire up Cloud Foundry with kubernetes. Nick's demo of the Adaptor. Recordings of talks from Cloud Foundry Day, 2022. The Tanzu Application Service, VMware's Cloud Foundry distro. You can watch the original video recording if you prefer that.

Coté talks with Charles Lowell and Taras Mankovski about the Backstage work they've been doing with clients. First, they talk about what Backstage is in the first place. Obviously, it's an internal developer portal...thing...but what does that mean beyond, like, a wiki? Check out The Frontside, and also, Taras' talk at BackstageCon. Watch the video of this recording if you prefer that kind of thing.

Coté talks with Darran Rice about his experience and other's with building and sustaining platform engineering teams.   If you haven't already, check out our conference SpringOne, Dec 6th to 8th. We'll be talking a lot about platform engineering and you can hear from people like Darran who've actually done it. Get the chance to talk with them directly, ask questions, and learn in the hallway track. When you register, use the code COTE200 to get $200. Links mentioned:  Darran's advice on KPIs. Platform as a Product paper. Gartner paper on internal developer platforms. Darran in LinkedIn. Also, watch the original video if you prefer that format.

We check-in on "platform engineering," and ponder the theory that it's "DevOps for kubernetes." Also, Coté gives his theory on the rise of platform engineering. In the news section, we cover some of the announcements from Google Next and Microsoft Ignite. Before we start: VMware Explore EU is about a week away. There's lots of Tanzu-land talks there, including this one with Coté and Mercedes going over their seven years of platform engineering, from back when it was called "platform as a product." Also, if you're not registered already, check out the great developers, operations, and management talks at SpringOne. It's December 6th to 8th in San Francisco and will be a great event. As Ben mentions, there'll be a lot of great Spring Framework talk. When you register, use the code COTE200 to get $200 off. As always, your hosts are: @egrigson, @benbravo73, & @cote. News and Links We'll cover KubeCon US next week (hopefully!). In the meantime, check out what our VMware pals are doing there. VMware State of Software Supply Chain: Open Source survey. Platform Engineering checkin: Coté declares it "DevOps4k8s." We have that Gartner paper about internal developer platforms that the platform engineering crew talks about here, for free: "Innovation Insight for Internal Developer Portals." Platform Engineering Watch: there's a platform engineering working group at CNCF.  Our platform as a product white paper. Google Cloud Next announcements, all 123. Microsoft Ignite: Azure Deployment Environments. Service Mesh survey (of KubeCon attendees?) shows that security is the top reason to use it, followed by monitoring/observability. Perhaps Service Mesh will, indeed, be primarily about security - or maybe that's just the concern now, since it's top of the list for kubernetes, usually - table stakes type of stuff for future desires. Unmentioned, but fun: Forest Brazeal deserves a callout for his "Re-org Rag"! 

Conferences are a great chance, sometimes the only change, to discuss your peculiar problems with peers and experts. In the case of SpringOne, the topics range from programming, operations, and even management. It's the hallway track! Ben and Coté discuss two talks where you can maximize the hallway track and get your questions answered. And, then, stay to listen to and interview with Duffie Cooley about eBPF, networking on kubernetes, and more, from Explore US 2022. The two talks from SpringOne:  A Study on Soldier-led Software Development to Reduce Security Vulnerabilities and Tanzu Vanguard: Priceless Insights. When you register, use the code COTE200 to get $200 off. Just think of how many hot dogs you could buy with that! Here is the video version of Ben and Coté talking, and the video of the full presentation and interview with Duffie.

This week we give a little previous of what will be at the SpringOne conference, then cover some recent conferences. We then discuss the sudden emergence of "platform engineering" as a thing, and finish out by discussing what the kids are calling "FinOps," getting a handle on how much you're spending on cloud stuff.   As always, with your pals @egrigson, @benbravo73, & @cote.   Check out the livestream video if you like that kind of thing. Show Notes   SpringOne Dec 6th and 8th. Check out the workshops and sessions. Escaping the Legacy Trap - Coté's talk with Marc. You can get the legacy trap booklet when you register for the webinar we did on the topic - also, watch the recording! Use the code COTE200 to get $200 off registration. News Conferences: Hashiconf announcements - RedMonk round-up. eBPF summit sessions are now online (it was 28th/29th Sept). Kong Summit. Platform Engineering Corner: boy, that's a thing now! Charity Major's piece. There was a whole conference. Paula has a good updated overview. Istio has joined the CNCF as incubating. Google published their 2022 Accelerate State of DevOps Report with lots of focus on security and platform-think. Surveys: Sysdig Threat Report. Buoyant's Service Mesh survey results. Cloud costs corner - Wan cloud report, PDF.  Ben's new video “Deploy Your Python Apps To Production In Seconds”

The new version of the Tanzu Application Service is out. In this episode, Nick Kuhn walks Coté and Ben through the new features for developers and operations staff. Find out more: Blog with full details on VMware Tanzu Application Service 3.0. Get the deep dive on the version format and updates to the long-term support track. Read about VMware's continued commitment to Cloud Foundry. Check out the Tanzu Application Service tech zone site to stay current on all the things. As you may recall, dear listeners, the Tanzu Application Service was previously called Pivotal Cloud Foundry.

How much on-premises IT is there? Is it 25% of all IT, or more like 90%. We try to figure that out at the start, and then move onto our selected news items since last time: a new take on services meshes known as "ambient mesh," a look at GitLabs, and two surveys going over cloud security and management/observability. And, check out Ben's video on getting kubernetes setup for developers with the Tanzu Application Platform.   Check out SpringOne which is coming up Dec 6th to 8th in San Francisco. You can get $200 off if you register with the code COTE200.   If you prefer visuals, check out the livestream recording of this episode which includes some bonus after show content where we dream about the alternative reality where Amiga still excited and hear about Coté's stroopwafel/coffee incident.   Topics: How much on-premises vs. public cloud IT is out there? Is it, like, 50/50, or more like 90/10? AWS CEO throws out feels that 90% of IT is still on-premises. A lot of words that go nowhere, from Coté, on this topic. News: In service mesh land, there's a new idea: Ambient Mesh. Related, check out this talk from Duffie Cooley of Isovalent. What does GitLabs do, exactly, cause they seem to be doing it very well. New Relic Observability report Snyk State of Cloud Security Report. Organizations of varying sizes and industries reported being impacted by major cloud security events over the last 12 months, with startups (89%) and public sector organizations (88%) the most affected

This week it's another interview from VMware Explore, this time about the kubernetes community and governance. Alex Williams and Coté talk with Davanum "dims" Srinivas. We cover lessons learned from other foundations, especially OpenStack; how new ideas are introduced into the CNCF; and otherwise talk about how the CNCF operates. You can also see the video of the talk dims gave before the interview. This interview was recorded at VMware Explore 2022.

There's a lot going on in the build, pipeline, CI/CD, supply chain space - so much so that there's all these phrases for the concept. Dagger.io is taking stab (hahahahah...) at builds and pipelines.  In this episode, Alex Willians of The New Stack and Coté talk with Solomon Hykes to answer the question "what is Dagger?" We also discuss platform engineering, the concept of programable pipelines, and how Dagger wants you to think. You can also see the video of the demo Solomon gave before this interview and the interview here. This interview was recorded at VMware Explore 2022.

This week's news: VMware Explore, k8s 1.25, Heroku's free tier EoL'ed, NGINIX talks open source, Serverless But, first: Candy Corn! After the news, you'll hear an interview from VMware Explore with Jen Kelly all about Backstage. Check out her presentation and the original interview, in video format, as well. Check out SpringOne which is coming up Dec 6th to 8th in San Francisco. You can get $200 off if you register with the code COTE200.   News: VMware Explore 2022: watch the videos. Explore Tanzu Application Platform roundup. Kubernetes version 1.25 – everything you should know Heroku no more free announcement and Minecraft buildpack. NGINX and open source. AWS Serverless Code Snippets.

How does operations change when you're supporting developers? That's what Barton George and I discuss in this episode. We recorded this at DevOpsDays Dallas 2022. Check out the video of this discussion if you're into that. Also, check out our upcoming conference on this topic and app dev, SpringOne. It's December 6th to 8th. When you register, use the code COTE200 to get $200 off.

What is Platform as a Product? As Bryan Ross and Coté discuss, it's how operations people shift their mindset to be more customer-centric as they help developers out. It involves building a platform to automate as many tasks as possible to shift to self-service, but also changing expectations and interactions between development and operations. They also discuss issues with finance, the need for marketing, and realistic expectations of moving support from helpdesks to Slack (or whatever).   Bryan in Twitter: @bryanrossuk. Read more about platform as a product here in our free report.

Istio! Service Mesh! Netflix OSS! The technologies and concepts for doing API-driven architectures have existed for longer than most of us have been alive, at least, able to program. In our kubernetes world, a "service mesh" is the all-in concept for managing and doing microservices at the application layer, but it also brings in all sorts of operational security capabilities that can be overlooked at first. In this episode, Ben and Coté talk with Oren Penso about the evolution of the service mesh idea, how it's evolved over recent years, and a little overview of the VMware Tanzu Service Mesh.   Links: Service Mesh for Dummies - free ebook. VMware Tanzu Service Mesh. What is eBDP? overview. Orens in Twitter: @openso. Check out VMware Explore. Original live-streamed video.