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The Overtired trio reunites for the first time in ages, diving into a whirlwind of health updates, hilarious anecdotes, and the latest tech obsessions. Christina shares a dramatic spinal saga while Brett and Jeff discuss everything from winning reddit contests to creating a universal markdown processor. Tune in for updates on Mark 3, the magical world of Scrivener, and why Brett’s back on Bing. Don’t miss the banter or the tech tips, and as always, get ready to laugh, learn, and maybe feel a little overtired yourself. Sponsor Shopify is the commerce platform behind 10% of all eCommerce in the US, from household names like Mattel and Gymshark, to brands just getting started. Get started today at shopify.com/overtired. Chapters 00:00 Welcome to the Overtired Podcast 01:09 Christina’s Health Journey 10:53 Brett’s Insurance Woes 15:38 Jeff’s Mental Health Update 24:07 Sponsor Spot: Shopify 24:18 Sponsor: Shopify 26:23 Jeff Tweedy 27:43 Jeff’s Concert Marathon 32:16 Christina Wins Big 36:58 Monitor Setup Challenges 37:13 Ergotron Mounts and Tall Poles 38:33 Review Plans and Honest Assessments 38:59 Current Display Setup 41:30 Thunderbolt KVM and Display Preferences 42:51 MacBook Pro and Studio Comparisons 50:58 Markdown Processor: Apex 01:07:58 Scrivener and Writing Tools 01:11:55 Helium Browser and Privacy Features 01:13:56 Bing Delisting Incident Show Links Danny Brown's 10 in the New York Times (gift link) Indigo Stack Scrivener Helium Bangs Apex Apex Syntax Join the Marked 3 Beta LG 32 Inch UltraFine™evo 6K Nano IPS Black Monitor with Thunderbolt™ 5 Join the Conversation Merch Come chat on Discord! Twitter/ovrtrd Instagram/ovrtrd Youtube Get the Newsletter Thanks! You’re downloading today’s show from CacheFly’s network BackBeat Media Podcast Network Check out more episodes at overtiredpod.com and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Find Brett as @ttscoff, Christina as @film_girl, Jeff as @jsguntzel, and follow Overtired at @ovrtrd on Twitter. Transcript Brett + 2 Welcome to the Overtired Podcast Jeff: [00:00:00] Hello everybody. This is the Overtired podcast. The three of us are all together for the first time since the Carter administration. Um, it is great to see you both here. I am Jeff Severance Gunzel if I didn’t say that already. Um, and I’m here with Christina Warren and I’m here with Brett Terpstra and hello to both of you. Brett: Hi. Jeff: Great to see you both. Brett: Yeah, it’s good to see you too. I feel like I was really deadpan in the pre-show. I’ll try to liven it up for you. I was a horrible audience. You were cracking jokes and I was just Jeff: that’s true. Christina, before you came on, man, I was hot. I was on fire and Brett was, all Brett was doing was chewing and dropping Popsicle parts. Brett: Yep. I ate, I ate part of a coconut outshine Popsicle off of a concrete floor, but Jeff: It is true, and I didn’t even see him check it [00:01:00] for cat hair, Brett: I did though. Jeff: but I believe he did because he’s a, he’s a very Brett: I just vacuumed in Jeff: He’s a very good American Brett: All right. Christina’s Health Journey Brett: Well, um, I, Christina has a lot of health stuff to share and I wanna save time for that. So let’s kick off the mental health corner. Um, let’s let Christina go first, because if it takes the whole show, it takes the whole show. Go for it. Christina: Uh, I, I will not take this hold show, but thank you. Yeah. So, um, my mental health is okay-ish. Um, I would say the okay-ish part is, is because of things that are happening with my physical health and then some of the medications that I’ve had to be on, um, uh, to deal with it. Uh, prednisone. Fucking sucks, man. Never nev n never take it if you can avoid it. Um, but why Christina, why are you on prednisone or why were you on prednisone for five days? Um, uh, and I’m not anymore to be clear, but that certainly did not help my mental health. Um, at the beginning of November, I woke up and I thought that I’d [00:02:00] slept on my shoulder wrong. And, um, uh, and, and just some, some background. I, I don’t know if this is pertinent to how my injury took place or not, but, but it, I’m sure that it didn’t help. Um, I have scoliosis and in the top and the bottom of my spine, so I have it at the top of my, like, neck area and my lower back. And so my back is like a crooked s um, this will be relevant in a, in a second, but, but I, I thought that I had slept on my back bunny, and I was like, okay, well, all right, it hurts a lot, but fine. Um, and then it, a, a couple of days passed and it didn’t get any better, and then like a week passed and I was at the point where I was like, I almost feel like I need to go to the. Emergency room, I’m in pain. That is that significant. Um, and, you know, didn’t get any better. So I took some of grant’s, Gabapentin, and I took, um, some, some, uh, a few other things and I was able to get in with like a, a, a sports and spine guy. Um, and um, [00:03:00] he looked at me and he was like, yeah, I think that you have like a, a, a bolting disc, also known as a herniated disc. Go to physical therapy. See me later. We’ll, we’ll deal with it. Um. Basically like my whole left side was, was, was really sore and, and I had a lot of pain and then I had numbness in my, my fingers and um, and, and that was a problem the next day, which was actually my birthday. The numbness had at this point spread to my right side and also my lower extremities. And so at this point I called the doctor and he was like, yeah, you should go to the er. And so I went to the ER and, and they weren’t able to do anything for me other than give me, you know, like, um, you know, I was hoping they might give me like, some sort of steroid injection or something. They wouldn’t do anything other than, um, basically, um, they gave me like another type of maybe, maybe pain pill or whatever. Um, but that allowed the doctor to go ahead and. Write, uh, write up an MRI took forever for me to get an MRI, I actually had to get it in Atlanta. [00:04:00] Fun fact, uh, sometimes it is cheaper to just pay and not go through insurance and get an MR MRI and, um, a, um, uh, an x-ray, um, I was able to do it for $450 Jeff: Whoa. Really? Christina: Yeah, $400 for the MR mri. $50 for the x-ray. Jeff: Wow. Christina: Yeah. Yeah. Brett: how I, they, I had an MRI, they charged me like $1,200 and then they failed to bill insurance ’cause I was between insurance. Christina: Yes. Yeah. So what happened was, and and honestly that was gonna be the situation that I was in, not between insurance stuff, but they weren’t even gonna bill insurance. And insurance only approved certain facilities and to get into those facilities is almost impossible. Um, and so, no, there are a lot of like get an MR, I now get a, you know, mammogram, get ghetto, whatever places. And because America’s healthcare system is a HealthScape, you can bypass insurance and they will charge you way less than whatever they bill insurance for. So I, I don’t know if it’s part of the country, you know, like Seattle I think might [00:05:00] probably would’ve been more expensive. But yeah, I was able to find this place like a mile from like, not even a mile from where my parents lived, um, that did the x-rays and the MRI for $450 total. Brett: I, I hate, I hate that. That’s true, but Christina: Me too. Me too. No, no. It pisses me off. Honestly, it makes me angry because like, I’m glad that I was able to do that and get it, you know, uh, uh, expedited. Then I go into the spine, um, guy earlier this week and he looks at it and he’s like, yep, you’ve got a massive bulging disc on, on C seven, which is the, the part of your lower cervical or cervical spine, which is your neck. Um, and it’s where it connects to your ver bray. It’s like, you know, there are a few things you can do. You can do, you know, injections, you can do surgery. He is like, I’m gonna recommend you to a neurosurgeon. And I go to the neurosurgeon yesterday and he was showing me or not, uh, yeah, yesterday he was showing me the, the, the, the scans and, and showing like you up close and it’s, yeah, it’s pretty massive. Like where, where, where the disc is like it is. You could see it just from one view, like, just from like [00:06:00] looking at it like, kind of like outside, like you could actually like see like it was visible, but then when you zoomed in it’s like, oh shit, this, this thing is like massive and it’s pressing on these nerves that then go into my, my hands and other areas. But it’s pressing on both sides. It’s primarily on my left side, but it’s pressing on on my right side too, which is not good. So, um, he basically was like, okay. He was like, you know, this could go away. He was like, the pain isn’t really what I’m wanting to, to treat here. It’s, it’s the, the weakness because my, my left arm is incredibly weak. Like when they do like the, the test where like they, they push back on you to see like, okay, like how, how much can you, what, like, I am, I’m almost immediately like, I can’t hold anything back. Right? Like I’m, I’m, I’m like a toddler in terms of my strength. So, and, and then I’m freaked out because I don’t have a lot of feeling in my hands and, and that’s terrifying. Um, I’m also. Jeff: so terrifying, Christina: I’m, I’m also like in extreme pain because of, of, of where this sits. Like I can’t sleep well. Like [00:07:00] the whole thing sucks. Like the MRI, which was was like the most painful, like 25 minutes, like of my existence. ’cause I was laying flat on my back. I’m not allowed to move and I’m just like, I’m in just incredible pain with that part of, of, of, of my, my side. Like, it, it was. It was terrible. Um, but, uh, but he was like, yeah. Um, these are the sorts of surgical options we have. Um, he’s gonna, um, do basically what what he wants to do is basically do a thing where he would put in a, um, an artificial or, or synthetic disc. So they’re gonna remove the disc, put in a synthetic one. They’ll go in through the, the front of my throat to access the, my, my, my, my spine. Um, put that there and, um, you know, I’ll, I’ll be overnight in the hospital. Um, and then it’ll be a few weeks of recovery and the, the, the pain should go away immediately. Um, but it, it could be up to two years before I get full, you know, feeling back in my arm. So anyway, Jeff: years, Jesus. And Christina: I mean, and hopefully less than that, but, but it could be [00:08:00] up to that. Jeff: there’s no part of this at this point. That’s a mystery to you, right? Christina: The mystery is, I don’t know how this happened. Jeff: You don’t know how it happened, right? Of course. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah. Brett: So tell, tell us about the ghastly surgery. The, the throat thing really threw me like, I can’t imagine that Christina: yeah, yeah. So, well, ’cause the thing is, is that usually if what they just do, like spinal fusion, they’ll go in at the back of your neck, um, and then they’ll remove the, the, um, the, the, the, the disc. And then they’ll fuse your, your, your two bones together. Basically. They’ll, they’ll, they’ll, they’ll fuse this part of the vertebrae, but because they’re going to be replacing the, the disc, they need more room. So that’s why they have to go in through the, through, through basically your throat so that they can have more room to work. Jeff: Good lord. No thank you. Brett: Ugh. Wow. Jeff: Okay. Brett: I am really sorry that is happening. That is, that is, that dwarfs my health concerns. That is just constant pain [00:09:00] and, and it would be really scary. Christina: Yeah. Yeah. It’s not great. It’s not great, but I’m, I’m, I’m doing what I can and, uh, like I have, you know, a small amount of, of Oxycodine and I have like a, a, a, you know, some other pain medication and I’m taking the gabapentin and like, that’s helpful. The bad part is like your body, like every 12, 15 hours, like whatever, like the, the, the cycle is like, you feel it leave your system and like if you’re asleep, you wake up, right? Like, it’s one of those things, like, you immediately feel it, like when it leaves your system. And I’ve never had to do anything for pain management before. And they have me on a very, they have me like on the smallest amount of like, oxycodone you can be on. Um, and I’m using it sparingly because I don’t wanna, you know, be reliant on, on it or whatever. But it, it, but it is one of those things where I’m like, yeah, like sometimes you need fucking opiates because, you know, the pain is like so constant. And the thing is like, what sucks is that it’s not always the same type of pain. Like sometimes it’s throbbing, sometimes it’s sharp, sometimes it’s like whatever. It sucks. But the hardest thing [00:10:00] is like, and. This does impact my mental health. Like it’s hard to sleep. Like, and I’m a side sleeper. I’m a side sleeper, and I’m gonna have to become a back sleeper. So, you know. Yeah. It’s just, it’s, it’s not great. It’s not great, but, you know, that, that, that, that, that’s me. The, the good news is, and I’m very, very gratified, like I have a good surgeon. Um, I’m gonna be able to get in to get this done relatively quickly. He had an appointment for next week. I don’t think that insurance would’ve even been able to approve things fast enough for, for, for that regard. And I have, um, commitments that I can’t make then. And I, and that would also mean that I wouldn’t be able to go visit my family for Christmas. So hopefully I’ll do it right after Christmas. I’m just gonna wait, you know, for, for insurance to, to do its thing, knock on wood, and then schedule, um, from there. But yeah, Jeff: Woof. Christina: so that’s me. Um, uh, who wants to go next? Jeff or, uh, Jeff or Brett? Jeff: It’s like, that’s me. Hot potato throwing it. Brett: I’ll, I’ll go. Brett’s Insurance Woes Brett: I can continue on the insurance topic. Um, I was, for a few months [00:11:00] after getting laid off, I was on Minsu, which is Minnesota’s Medicaid, um, v version of Medicaid. And so basically I paid nothing and I had better insurance than I usually have with, uh, you know, a full deductible and premiums and everything. And it was fantastic. I was getting all the care I needed for all of the health stuff I’m going through. Um, I, they, a, a new doctor I found, ordered the 15 tests and I passed out ’cause it was so much blood and. And it, I was getting, but I was getting all these tests run. I was getting results, we were discovering things. And then my unemployment checks, the income from unemployment went like $300 over the cap for Medicaid. So [00:12:00] all of a sudden, overnight I was cut from Medicaid and I had to do an early sign up, and now I’m on courts and it sucks bad. Like they’re not covering my meds. Last month cost me $600. I was also paying. In addition to that, a $300 premium plus every doctor’s visit is 50 bucks out of pocket. So this will hopefully only last until January, and then it’ll flip over and I will be able to demonstrate basically no income, um, until like Mark makes enough money that it gets reported. Um, and even, uh, until then, like I literally am making under the, the poverty limit. So, um, I hope to be back on Medicaid shortly. I have one more month. I’ll have to pay my $600 to refill. I [00:13:00] cashed out my 401k. Um, like things were, everything was up high enough that I had made, I. I had made tens of thousands of dollars just on the investments and the 401k, but I also have a lot of concerns about the market volatility around Nvidia and the AI bubble in general. Um, so taking my money out of the market just felt okay to me. I paid the 10%, uh, penalty Jeff: Mm-hmm. Brett: and ultimately I, I came out with enough cash that I can invest on my own and be able to cover the next six months. Uh, if I don’t have any other income, which I hope to, I hope to not spend my nest egg. Um, but I did, I did a lot of thinking and calculating and I think I made the right choices. But anyway, [00:14:00] that will help if I have to pay for medical stuff that will help. Um. And then I’ve had insomnia, bad on and off. Right now I’m coming off of two days of good sleep. You’re catching me on a good day. Um, but Jeff: Still wouldn’t laugh at my jokes. Brett: before that it was, well, that’s the thing is like before that, it was four nights where I slept two to four hours per night, and by the end of it, I could barely walk. And so two nights of sleep after a stint like that, like, I’m just super, I’m deadpan, I’m dazed. Um, I could lay down and fall asleep at any time. Um, I, so, so keep me awake. Um, but yeah, that’s, that’s, that’s me. Mental health is good. Like I’m in pretty high spirits considering all this, like financial stuff and everything. Like my mood has been pretty stable. I’ve been getting a lot of coding done. I’ll tell you about projects in [00:15:00] a minute, but, um, but that’s, that’s me. I’m done. Jeff: Awesome. I’m enjoying watching your cat roll around, but clearly cannot decide to lay down at this point. Brett: No, nobody is very persnickety. Jeff: I literally have to put my. Well, you say put a cat down like you used to. When you put a kid down for a nap, you say you wanna put ’em down. Right? That’s where it’s coming from. I now have a chair next to my desk, ’cause I have one cat that walks around Yowling at about 11:00 AM while I’m working. And I have to like, put ’em down for a nap. It’s pathetic. It’s pathetic that I do that. Let’s just be clear. Brett: Yeah. Jeff: soulmate though. Jeff’s Mental Health Update Jeff: Um, I’m doing good. I’m, I’m, I’ve been feeling kind of light lately in a nice way. I’ve had ups and downs, but even with the ups and downs, there’s like a, except for one day last week was, there’s just been feeling kind of good in general, which is remarkable in a way. ’cause it’s just like stressful time. There’s some stressful business stuff, like, [00:16:00] a lot of stuff like that. But I’m feeling good and, and just like, uh, yeah, just light. I don’t know, it’s weird. Like, I’ve just been noticing that I feel kind of light and, uh. And not, not manic, not high light. Brett: Yeah. No, that’s Jeff: uh, and that’s, that’s lovely. So yeah. And so I’m doing good. I’m doing good. I fucking, it’s cold. Which sucks ’cause it just means for everybody that’s heard about my workshop over the years, that I can’t really go out there and have it be pleasant Brett: It’s, it’s been Minnesota thus far. Has had, we’ve had like one, one Sub-Zero day. Jeff: whatever. It’s fucking cold. Christina: Yeah. What one? Brett? Brett. It’s December 6th as we’re recording this one Sub-Zero day. That’s insane. Brett: Is it Jeff: Granted, granted I’ve been dressing warm, so I’m ready to go out the door for ice related things. Meaning, meaning government, ice, Brett: Uh, yeah. Yeah. Jeff: So I like wear my long underwear during [00:17:00] the day. ’cause actually like recently. So at my son’s school, which is like six blocks from here, um, has a lot of Somali immigrants in it. And, and uh, and there was a, at one point there was ice activity in the other direction, um, uh, uh, near me. And so neighbors put out a call here around so that at dismissal time people would pair up at all the intersections surrounding the school. And, um, and like a quick signal group popped up, whatever. It was so amazing because like we all just popped out there. And by the time I got out, uh, everyone was already like, posted up and I was like, I’m a, in these situations, I am a wanderer. You want me roaming? I don’t want to pair up with somebody I don’t like, I just, I grabbed a camera with a Zoom on it and like, I was like, I’m in roam. Um, it’s what I was as an activist, what I was as a reporter, like it’s just my nature. Um, but like. Everybody was out and like, and they were just like, they were ready man. And then we got like the all clear and you could just see people in the [00:18:00] neighborhood just like standing down and going home. But because of the true threat and the ongoing arrests here, now that the Minneapolis stuff has started, like I do, I was like wearing long underwear just, and I have a little bag by the door ready to like pop out if something comes up and I can be helpful. Um, and uh, and I guess what I’m saying is I should use that to go into the garage as well if I’m already prepared. Brett: Right. Jeff: But here’s, okay, so here’s a mental health thing actually. So I, one of the, I’ve gone through a few years of just sort of a little bit of paralysis around being able to just, I don’t know what, like do anything that is kind of project related that takes some thinking, whatever it is, like I’m talking about around the house or things that have kind of broken over the years, whatever. So I’ve had this snowblower and it’s a really good snowblower. It’s got headlights. And, uh, and I used to love snow blowing the entire block. Like it just made me feel good, made me feel useful. Um, and sorry I cough. I left it outside for a [00:19:00] year for a, like a winter and a spring and water got into the gas tank. It rusted out in there. I knew I couldn’t start it or I’d ruin the whole damn engine. So I left it for two years and I felt bad about myself. But this year, just like probably a month before the first big snowfall, I fucking replaced a gas tank and a carburetor on a machine. And I have never done anything like that in my life. And so then we got the snowfall and I, and I snow blowed this whole block Brett: Nice. Jeff: great. ’cause now they all owe me. Brett: I, uh, I have a, uh, so I have a little electric powered, uh, snowblower that can handle like two inches of snow. Um, and, and on big snowfalls, if you get out there every hour and keep up with it, it, it works. But, but I, my back right now, I can’t stand for, I can’t stand still for 10 minutes and I can’t move for more than like five minutes. And so I’m, I’m very disabled and El has good days and bad days, uh, thus [00:20:00] far. L’s been out there with a shovel, um, really being the hero. But we have a next door neighbor with a big gas powered snowblower. And so we went over, brought them gifts, and, um, asked if they would take care of our driveway on days we couldn’t, uh, for like, you know, we’d pay ’em 25 bucks to do the driveway. And, uh, and they were, he was still reluctant to accept money. Um. But, but we both agreed it was better to like make it a, a transaction. Jeff: Oh my God. You don’t want to get into weird Minnesota neighbor relational. Brett: right. You don’t want the you owe me thing. Um, so, so we have that set up. But in the process we made really good friends with our neighbor. Like we sat down in their living room for I think 45 minutes and just like talked about health and politics and it was, it was really fun. They’re, they’re retired. They’re in their [00:21:00] seventies and like act, he always looks super grumpy. I always thought he was a mean old man. He’s actually, he laughs more easily than most people I’ve ever met. Um, he’s actually, when people say, oh, he is actually a teddy bear, this guy really is, he’s just jovial. Uh, he just has resting angry old man face. Jeff: Or like my, I have public mis throat face, like when I’m out and about, especially when I’m shopping, I know that my face is, I’m gonna fucking kill you if you look me in the eye Brett: I used Jeff: is not my general disposition. Brett: people used to tell me that about myself, but I feel like I, I carry myself differently these days than I did when I was younger. Jeff: You know what I learned? Do you, have you both watched Veep, Christina: Yes, Jeff: you know, Richard sp split, right? Um, and, and he always kind of has this sweet like half smile and he is kind of looking up and I, I figured out at one point I was in an airport, which is where my kill everybody face especially comes up. Just to be clear. TSA, it’s just a feeling inside. I [00:22:00] have no desire to act to this out. I realized that if I make the Richard Plet face, which I can try to make for you now, which is something like if I just make the Richard Plet face, my whole disposition Brett: yeah. Yeah. Jeff: uh, and I even feel a little better. And so I just wanna recommend that to people. Look up Richard Spt, look at his face. Christina: Hey, future President Bridges split. Jeff: future President Richard Splat, also excellent in the Detroiters. Um, that’s all, uh, that’s all I wanted to say about that. Brett: I have found that like when I’m texting with someone, if I start to get frustrated, you know, you know that point where you’re still adding smiley emoticons even though you’re actually not, you’re actually getting pissed off, but you don’t wanna sound super bitchy about it, so you’re adding smile. I have found that when I add a smiley emoji in those circumstances, if I actually smile before I send it, it like my [00:23:00] mood will adjust to match, to match the tone I’m trying to convey, and it lessens my frustration with the other person. Jeff: a little joy wrist rocket. Christina: Yeah. Hey, I mean, no, but hey, but, but that, that, that, that, that’s interesting. I mean, they’re, they, they’ve done studies that like show that, right? That like show like, you know, I mean, like, some of this is all like bullshit to a certain extent, but there is something to be said for like, you know, like the power of like positive thinking and like, you know, if you go into things with like, different types of attitudes or even like, even if you like, go into job interviews or other situations, like you act confident or you smile, or you act happy or whatever. Even if you’re not like it, the, the, the, the euphoria, you know, that those sorts of uh, um, endorphin reactions or whatever can be real. So that’s interesting. Brett: Yeah, I found, I found going into job interviews with my usual sarcastic and bitter, um, kind of mindset, Jeff: I already hate this job. Brett: it doesn’t play well. It doesn’t play well. So what are your weaknesses? Fuck off. Um,[00:24:00] Christina: right. Well, well, well, I hate people. Jeff: Yeah. Dealing with motherfuckers like you, that’s one weakness. 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That was Jeff: Yeah. Cha-ching Brett: they got the chorus, they got the Overtired Christina: You did. You got the Overtired Jeff: They didn’t think to ask for it, but that’s our brand. Christina: shopify.com/ Overtired. Jeff Tweedy Jeff: What was, uh, I was watching a Stephen Colbert interview with Jeff Tweedy, who just put out a triple album and, uh, it was a very thoughtful, sweet interview. And then Stephen Colbert said, you know, you’re not supposed to do this. And Jeff Tweety said, it’s all part of my career long effort to leave the public wanting less. Christina: Ha, Jeff: That was a great bit. Christina: that’s a fantastic bit. A side note, there are a couple of really good NPR, um, uh, tiny desks that have come out in the last couple of month, uh, couple of weeks. Um, uh, one is shockingly, I, I’ll, I’ll just be a a, a fucking boomer about it. The Googo dolls. Theirs was [00:27:00] great. It’s fantastic. They did a great job. It already has like millions of views, like it wrecked up like over a million views, I think like in like, like less than 24 hours. They did a great job, but, uh, but Brandy Carlisle, uh, did one, um, the other day and hers is really, really good too. So, um, so yeah. Yeah, exactly. So yeah. Anyway, you said, you saying Jeff pd maybe, I don’t know how I got from Wilco to like, you know, there, Jeff: Yeah. Well, they’ve done some good, he’s done his own good Christina: he has, he has done his own. Good, good. That’s honestly, that’s probably what I was thinking of, but Jeff: It’s my favorite Jeff besides me because Bezos, he’s not in the, he’s not in the game. Christina: No. No, he’s not. No. Um, he, he’s, he’s not on the Christmas card list at all. Jeff: Oh man. Jeff’s Concert Marathon Jeff: Can I just tell you guys that I did something, um, I did something crazy a couple weeks ago and I went to three shows in one week, like I was 20 fucking two, Brett: Good grief. Jeff: and. It was a blast. So, okay, so the background of this is my oldest son [00:28:00] loves hip hop, and when we drive him to college and back, or when I do, it’s often just me. Um, he, he goes deep and he, it’s a lot of like, kind of indie hip hop and a lot. It’s just an interesting, he listens to interesting shit, but he will go deep and he’ll just like, give me a tour through someone’s discography or through all their features somewhere, whatever it is. And like, it’s the kind of input that I love, which is just like, I don’t, even if it’s not my genre, like if you’re passionate and you can just weave me through the interrelationship and the history and whatever it is I’m in. So as a result of that, made me a huge fan of Danny Brown and made me a huge fan of the sky, Billy Woods. And so what happened was I went to a hip hop show at the seventh Street entry, uh, which is attached to First Avenue. It’s a little club, very small, lovely little place, the only place my band could sell out. Um, and I watched a hip hop show there on a Monday night, Tuesday night. I went to the Uptown Theater, which Brett is now a actually an operating [00:29:00] theater for shows. Uh, and I, and I saw Danny Brown, but I also saw two hyper pop bands, a genre I was not previously aware of, including one, which was amazing, called Fem Tenal. And I was in line to get into that show behind furries, behind trans Kids. Like it was this, I was the weirdest, like I did not belong. Underscores played, and, and this will mean something to somebody out there, but not, didn’t mean anything to me until that night. And, uh. I felt like such, there were times, not during Danny Brown, Danny Brown’s my age all good. But like there were times where I was in the crowd ’cause I’m tall. Anybody that doesn’t know I’m very tall and I’m wearing like a not very comfortable or safe guy seeming outfit, a black hoodie, a black stocking cap. Like I basically looked like I’m possibly a shooter and, and I’m like standing among all these young people loving it, but feeling a little like, should I go to the back? Even like I was leaving that show [00:30:00] and the only people my age were people’s parents that were waiting to pick them up on the way out. So anyway, that was night two. Danny Brown was awesome. And then two nights later I went to see, this is way more my speed, a band called the Dazzling Kilman who were a band that. Came out in the nineties, St. Louis and a noisy Matthew Rock. Wikipedia claims they invented math rock. It’s a really stupid claim, uh, but it’s a lovely, interesting band and it’s a friend of mine named Nick Sakes, who’s who fronted that band and was in all these great bands back when I was in bands called Colos Mite and Sick Bay, and all this is great shit. So they played a reunion show. In this tiny punk rock club here called Cloudland, just a lovely little punk rock club. And, um, and, and that was like rounded out my week. So like, I was definitely, uh, a tourist the early part of the week, mostly at the Danny Brown Show. But then I like got to come home to my noisy punk rock [00:31:00] on, uh, on Thursday night. And I, I fucking did three shows and it hurt so bad. Like even by the first of three bands on the second night. I was like, I don’t think I can make it. And I do. I already pregame shows with ibuprofen. Just to be really clear, I microdose glucose tabs at shows like, like I am, I am a full on old man doing these things. But, um, I did get some cred with my kids for being at a hyper pop show all by myself. And, Christina: Hell yeah. A a Jeff: friends seemed impressed. Christina: no, as a as, as as they should be. I’m impressed. And like, and I, I, I typically like, I definitely go to like more of like, I go, I go to shows more frequently and, and I’m, I’m even like, I’m, I’m gonna be real with you. I’m like, yeah, three in one week. Jeff: That’s a lot. Christina: That’s a lot. That’s a lot. Jeff: man. Did I feel good when I walked home from that last show though? I was like, I fucking did it. I did not believe I wasn’t gonna bail on at least two of those shows, if not all three. Anyway, just wanted to say Brett: I [00:32:00] do like one show a year, but Jeff: that’s how I’ve been for years this year. I think I’ve seen eight shows. Brett: damn. Jeff: Yeah, it’s Brett: Alright, so you’ve been teasing us about this, this contest you won. Jeff: Yeah, please, Christina. Sorry to push that off. Christina: No, no, no, no. That’s, that’s completely okay. That, that, that, that’s great. Uh, no. Christina Wins Big Christina: So, um, I won two six K monitors. Brett: Damn. Jeff: is that what those boxes are behind you? Christina: Yeah, yeah. This is what the boxes are behind me, so I haven’t been able to get them up because this happened. I got them literally right in the midst of all this stuff with my back. Um, but I do have an Ergotron poll now that is here, and, and Grant has said that he will, will get them up. But yeah, so I won 2 32 inch six K monitors from a Reddit contest. Brett: How, how, how, Jeff: How does this happen? How do I find a Reddit contest? Christina: Yeah. So I got lucky. So I have, I, I have a clearly, well, well, um, there was a little, there was a little bit of like, other step to it than that, but like, uh, so how it worked was basically, um, LG is basically just put out [00:33:00] two, they put out a new 32 inch six K monitor. I’ll have it linked in, in, in the show notes. Um, so we’ve talked about this on this podcast before, but like one of my big, like. Pet peeve, like things that I can’t get past. It’s like I need like a retina screen. Like I need like the, the perfect pixel doubling thing for that the Mac Os deals with, because I’ve used a 5K screen, either through an iMac or um, an lg, um, ultra fine or, um, a, uh, studio display. For like 11 years. And, and I, and I’ve been using retina displays on laptops even longer than that. And so if I use like a regular 4K display, like it just, it, it doesn’t work for me. Um, you can use apps like, um, like better control and other things to kind of emulate, like what would be like if you doubled the resolution, then it, it down, you know, um, of samples that, so that. It looks better than, than if it’s just like the, the, the 4K stuff where in the, the user interface things are too big and whatnot. And to be clear, this is a Macco West problem. If [00:34:00] you are using Windows or Linux or any other operating system that does fractional scaling, um, correctly, then this is not a problem. But Macco West does not do fractional scaling direct, uh, correctly. Um, weirdly iOS can, like, they can do three X resolution and other things. Um, but, but, but Macs does not. And that’s weird because some of the native resolutions on some of the MacBook errors are not even perfectly pixeled doubled, meaning Apple is already having to do a certain amount of like resolution changes to, to fit into their own, created by their, their own hubris, like way of insisting on, on only having like, like two x pixel doubling 18 years ago, we could have had independent, uh, resolutions, uh, um, for, for UI elements and, and, and window bars. But anyway, I, I’m, I’m digressing anyway. I was looking at trying to get either a second, uh, studio display, which I don’t wanna do because Apple’s reportedly going to be putting out a new one. Um, and they’re expensive or getting, um, there are now a number of different six K [00:35:00] displays that are not $6,000 that are on the market. So, um, uh, uh, Asus has one, um, there is one from like a, a Chinese company called like, or Q Con that, um, looks like a, a complete copy of this, of the pro display XDR. It has a different panel, but it’s, it’s six K and they, they’ve copied the whole design and it’s aluminum and it’s glossy and it looks great, but I’d have to like get it from like. A weird distributor, and if I have any issues with it, I don’t really wanna have to send it back to China and whatnot. And then LG has one that they just put out. And so I’ve been researching these on, on Mac rumors and on some other forums. And, um, I, uh, I, somebody in one of the Mac Roomers forums like posted that there was like a contest that LG was running in a few different subreddits where they were like, tell us why you should get one of, like, we’re gonna be giving away like either one or two monitors, and I guess they did this in a few subreddits. Tell us why this would be good for your workflow. And, um, I guess I, I guess I’m one of the people who kind of read the [00:36:00] assignment because it, okay, I’ll just be honest with this, with, with you guys on this podcast, uh, because I, I don’t think anyone from LG will hear this and my answers were accurate anyway. But anyway, this was not the sort of contest where it was like we will randomly select a winner. This was the moderators and lg, were going to read the responses and choose the winner. Jeff: Got it. Christina: So if you spend a little bit of time and thoughtfully write out a response, maybe you stand a better chance of winning the contest. Jeff: yeah, yeah. Put the work in like it was 2002. Christina: Right. Anyway, I still was shocked when I like woke up like on like Halloween and they were like, congratulations, you’ve won two monitors. I’m like, I’m sorry. What? Jeff: That’s amazing. Christina: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Jeff: Nice work. I know I’ve, you know, I’ve been staring at those boxes behind you this whole time, just being like, those look like some sweet monitors. Christina: yeah, yeah. Monitor Setup Challenges Christina: I mean, and, uh, [00:37:00] uh, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s, and I, I’m very much, so my, my, my only issue is, okay, how am I gonna get these on my desk? So I’m gonna have to do something with my iMac and I’m probably gonna have to get rid of my, my my, my 5K, um, uh, uh, studio display, at least in the short term. Ergotron Mounts and Tall Poles Christina: Um, but what I did do is I, um, I ordered from, um, Ergotron, ’cause I already have. Um, two of their, um, LX mounts, um, or, or, or, or arms. Um, and only one of them is being used right now. And then I have a different arm that I use for the, um, um, iMac. Um, they sell like a, if you call ’em directly, you can get them to send you a tall pole so that you can put the two arms on top of them. And that way I think I can like, have them so that I can have like one pole and then like have one on one side, one Jeff: I have a tall pole. Christina: and, and yeah, that’s what she said. Um, Jeff: as soon as I said it, I was like, for fuck’s sake. But Christina: um, but, uh, but, but yeah, but so that way I think I, I can, I, in theory, I can stack the market and have ’em side by side. I don’t know. Um, I got that. I, I had to call Tron and, and order that from them. [00:38:00] Um, it was only a hundred dollars for, for the poll and then $50 for a handling fee. Jeff: It’s not easy to ship a tall pole. Brett: That’s what she said. Christina: that is what she said. Uh, that is exactly what she said. But yeah, so I, I, the, the, the unfortunate thing is that, um, I, um, I, I had to, uh, get a, like all these, they, they came in literally right before Thanksgiving, and then I’ve had, like, all my back stuff has Jeff: Yeah, no Christina: debilitating, but I’m looking forward to, um, getting them set up and used. And, uh, yeah. Review Plans and Honest Assessments Christina: And then full review will be coming to, uh, to, I have to post a review on Reddit, but then I will also be doing a more in depth review, uh, on this podcast if anybody’s interested in, in other places too, to like, let let you know, like if it’s worth your money or not. Um, ’cause there, like I said, there are, there are a few other options out there. So it’s not one of those things where like, you know, um, like, thank you very much for the free monitor, um, monitors. But, but I, I will, I will give like the, the, you know, an honest assessment or Current Display Setup Brett: So [00:39:00] do you currently have a two display setup? Christina: No. Um, well, yes, and kind of, so I have my, my, I have my 5K studio display, and then I have like my iMac that I use as a two to display setup. But then otherwise, what I’ve had to do, and this is actually part of why I’m looking forward to this, is I have a 4K 27 inch monitor, but it’s garbage. And it, it’s one of those things where I don’t wanna use it with my Mac. And so I wind up only using it with my, with my Windows machine, with my framework desktop, um, with my Windows or Linux machine. And, and because that, even though I, it supports Thunderbolt, the Apple display is pain in the ass to use with those things. It doesn’t have the KVM built in. Like, it doesn’t like it, it just, it’s not good for that situation. So yeah, this will be of this size. I mean, again, like I, I, I’m 2 32 inch monitors. I don’t know how I’m gonna deal with that on my Jeff: I Brett: yeah. So right now I’m looking at 2 32 inch like UHD monitors, Christina: Yeah,[00:40:00] Brett: I will say that on days when my neck hurts, it sucks. It’s a, it’s too wide a range to, to like pan back and forth quickly. Like I’ll throw my back out, like trying to keep track of stuff. Um, but I have found that like if I keep the second display, just like maybe social media apps is the way I usually set it up. And then I only work on one. I tried buying an extra wide curve display, hated it. Jeff: Uh, I’ve always wanted to try one, but Christina: I don’t like them. Jeff: Yeah. Christina: Well, for me, well for me it’s two things. One, it’s the, I don’t love the whole like, you know, thing or whatever, but the big thing honestly there, if you could give me, ’cause people are like, oh, you can get a really big 5K, 2K display. I’m like, that’s not a 5K display. That is 2 27 inch, 1440 P displays. One, you know, ultra wide, which is great. Good for you. That’s not retina. And I’m a sicko Who [00:41:00] needs the, the pixel doubling? Like I wish that my eyes could not use that, but, but, but, Jeff: that needs the pixel. Like was that the headline of your Reddit, uh, Christina: no, no. It wasn’t, it wasn’t. But, but maybe it should be. Hi, I’m a sicko who only, um, fucks with, with, with, with, with, with, with retina displays. Ask me anything. Um, but no, but that’s a good point. Brett: I think 5K Psycho is the Christina: 5K Sicko is the po is the po title. I like that. I like that. No, what I’m thinking about doing and that’s great to know, Brett. Um, this kind of reaffirms my thing. Thunderbolt KVM and Display Preferences Christina: So what’s nice about these monitors is that they come with like, built in like, um, Thunderbolt 5K VM. So, which is nice. So you could conceivably have multiple, you know, computers, uh, connected, you know, to to, to one monitor, which I really like. Um, I mean like, ’cause like look, I, I’ve bitched and moaned about the studio display, um, primarily for the price, but at the same time, if mine broke tomorrow and if I didn’t have any way to replace it, I’ve, I’ve also gone on record saying I would buy a new one immediately. As mad as I am about a [00:42:00] lot of different things with that, that the built-in webcam is garbage. The, you know, the, the fact that there’s not a power button is garbage. The fact that you can’t use it with multiple inputs, it’s garbage. But it’s a really good display and it’s what I’m used to. Um, it’s really not any better than my LG Ultra fine from 2016. But you know what? Whatever it is, what it is. Um. I, I am a 5K sicko, but being able to, um, connect my, my personal machine and my work machine at the same time to one, and then have my Windows slash Linux computer connected to another, I think that’s gonna be the scenario where I’m in. So I’m not gonna necessarily be in a place where I’m like, okay, I need to try to look at both of them across 2 32 inch displays. ’cause I think that that, like, that would be awesome. But I feel like that’s too much. Brett: I would love a decent like Thunderbolt KVM setup that could actually swap like my hubs back and Christina: Yes. MacBook Pro and Studio Comparisons Brett: Um, so, ’cause I, I have a studio and I have my, uh, Infor MacBook Pro [00:43:00] and I actually work mostly on the MacBook Pro. Um, but if I could easily dock it and switch everything on my desk over to it, I would, I would work in my office more often. ’cause honestly, the M four MacBook Pro is, it’s a better machine than the original studio was. Um, and I haven’t upgraded my studio to the latest, but, um, I imagine the new one is top notch. Christina: Oh yeah. Yeah. Brett: my, my other one, a couple years old now is already long in the tooth. Christina: No, I mean, they’re still good. I mean, it’s funny, I saw that some YouTube video the other day where they were like, the best value MacBook you can get is basically a 4-year-old M1 max. And I was like, I don’t know about that guys. Like, I, I kind of disagree a little bit. Um, but the M1 max, which is I think is what is in the studio, is still a really, really good ship. But to your point, like they’ve made those, um. You know, the, the, the new ones are still so good. Like, I have an M three max as my personal laptop, and [00:44:00] that’s kind of like the dog chip in the, in the m um, series lineup. So I kind of am regretful for spending six grand on that one, but it is what it is, and I’m like, I’m not, I’m not upgrading. Um, I mean, maybe, maybe in, in next year if, if the M five Pro, uh, or M five max or whatever is, is really exceptional, maybe I’ll look at, okay, how much will you give me to, to trade it in? But even then, I, I, but I feel like I’m at that point where I’m like, it gets to a point where like it’s diminishing returns. Um, but, uh, just in terms of my own budget. But, um, yeah, the, the new just info like pro or or max, whatever, Brett: I have, I have an M four MacBook Pro sitting around that I keep forgetting to sell. Uh, it’s the one that I, it only had a 256 gigabyte hard drive, Jeff: what happened to me when I bought my M1, Brett: and I, and I regretted that enough that I just ordered another one. But, uh, for various reasons, I couldn’t just return the one I didn’t Jeff: ’cause it was.[00:45:00] Brett: so now I, now I have to sell it and I should sell it while it’s still a top of the line machine Christina: Sell it before, sell, sell, sell, sell it before next month, um, or, or February or whenever they sell it before then the, the pros come out. ’cause right now the M five base is out, but the pros are not. So I think feel like you could still get most of your value for it, especially since it has very few battery cycles. Be sure to put the battery cycles on your Facebook marketplace or eBay thing or whatever. Um, I bought my, uh, she won’t listen to this so she won’t know, but, um, they, there was a, a killer Cyber Monday deal, uh, for Best Buy where they had like a, the, the, the, so it’s several years old, but it was the, the M two MacBook Air, but the one that they upgraded to 16 gigs of Ram when Apple was like, oh, we have to have Apple Intelligence and everything, because they actually thought that they were actually gonna ship Apple Intelligence. So they like went back and they, like, they, they, you know, retconned like made the base model MacBook Air, like 16 [00:46:00] gigs. Um, and, uh, anyway, it was, it was $600, um, Jeff: still crazy. Christina: which, which like even for like a, a, a 2-year-old machine or whatever, I was like, yeah, she, my sister, I think she’s on like, like a 2014 or older than that. Like, like MacBook Air. She doesn’t even know where the MagSafe is. I don’t think she even knows where the laptop is. So she’s basically doing everything like on her phone and I’m like, okay, you need a laptop of some type, but at this point. I do feel strongly that like the, the, the $600 or, or, or actually I think it was $650, it was actually less, it is actually more expensive than what the, the, the Cyber Monday sale was, um, the M1, Walmart, MacBook Air. I’m like, absolutely not like that is at this point, do not buy that. Right? Like, I, especially with eight gigs of ram, I’m, I’m like, it’s been, it’s five years old. It’s a, it was a great machine and it was great value for a long time. $200. Cool, right? Like, if you could get something like use and, and, and, and if you could replace the battery or, you know, [00:47:00] for, for, you know, not, not too much money or whatever. Like, I, I, I could see like an argument to be made like value, right? But there’d be no way in hell that I would ever spend or tell anybody else to spend $650 on that new, but $600 for an M two with Jeff: Now we’re talking. Christina: which has the redesign brand new. I’m like, okay. Spend $150 more and you could have got the M four, um, uh, MacBook Air, obviously all around Better Machine. But for my sister, she doesn’t need that, Jeff: What do we have to do to put your sister in this M two MacBook Christina: that, that, that, that, that, that’s exactly it. So I, I, I was, well, also, it was one of those things I was like, I think that she would rather me spend the money on toys for my nephew for Santa Claus than, than, uh, giving her like a, a processor upgrade. Um, Jeff: Claus isn’t real. Brett: Oh shit. Jeff: Gotcha. Every year I spoil it for somebody. This year it was Christina and Brett. Sorry guys. Brett: right. Well, can I tell you guys Jeff: Yeah. [00:48:00] Brett Software. Brett: two quick projects before we do Jeff: Hold on. You don’t have to be quick ’cause you could call it Brett: We’re already at 45 minutes and I want Jeff: What I’m saying, skip GrAPPtitude. This is it? Brett: okay. Christina: us about Mark. Tell us about your projects. Brett: So, so Mark three is, there’s a public, um, test flight beta link. Uh, if you go to marked app.com, not marked two app.com, uh, marked app.com. Uh, you, there’s a link in the, in the, at the top for Christina: Join beta. Mm-hmm. Brett: Um, and that is public and you can join it and you can send me feedback directly through email because, um, uh, uh, the feedback reporter sucks for test flight and you can’t attach files. And half the time they come through as anonymous feedback and I can’t even follow up on ’em. So email me. But, um, I’ll be announcing that on my blog soon-ish. Um, right now there’s like [00:49:00] maybe a couple dozen, um, testers and I, it’s nice and small and I’m solving the biggest bugs right away. Um, so that’s been, that’s been big. Like Mark, even since we last talked has added. Do you remember Jeff when Merlin was on and he wanted to. He wanted to be able to manage his styles, um, and disable built-in styles. There’s now a whole table based style manager where you Jeff: saw that. Brett: you can, you can reorder, including built-in styles. You can reorder, enable, disable, edit, duplicate. Um, it’s like a full, full fledged, um, style manager. And I just built a whole web app that is a style generator that gives you, um, automatic like rhythm calculations for your CSS and you can, you can control everything through like, uh, like UI fields instead of having to [00:50:00] write CSS. Uh, but you can also o open up a very, I’ve spent a lot of time on the code mirror CSS editor in the web app. Uh, so, and it’s got live preview as you edit in the code mirror field. Um, so that’s pretty cool. And that’s built into marts. So if you go to style, um, generate style, it’ll load up a, a style generator for you. Anyway, there’s, there’s a ton. I’m not gonna go into all the details, but, uh, anyone listening who uses markdown for anything, especially if you want ability to export to like Word and epub and advanced PDF export, um, join the beta. Let me know what you think. Uh, help me squash bugs. But the other thing, every time I push a beta for review before the new bug reports come in, I’ve been putting time into a tool. Markdown Processor: Apex Brett: I’m calling [00:51:00] Apex and um, I haven’t publicly announced this one yet, but I probably will by the time this podcast comes out. Jeff: I mean, doesn’t this count? Brett: It, it does. I’m saying like this, this might be a, you hear you heard it here first kind of thing, um, but if you go to github.com/tt sc slash apex, um, I built a, uh, pure C markdown processor that combines syntax from cram down GitHub flavored markdown, multi markdown maku, um, common mark. And basically you can write syntax from any of those processors, including all of their special features, um, and in one document, and then use Apex in its unified mode, and it’ll just figure out what. All of your syntax is supposed to do. Um, so you can take, you can port documents from one platform to another [00:52:00] without worrying about how they’re gonna render. Um, if I can get any kind of adoption with Apex, it could solve a lot of problems. Um, I built it because I want to make it the default processor in marked ’cause right now, you, you have to choose, you know, cram Christina: Which one? Brett: mark and, and choosing one means you lose something in order to gain something. Um, so I wanted to build a universal one that brought together everything. And I added cool features from some extensions of other languages, such as if you have two lists in a row, normally in markdown, it’s gonna concatenate those into one list. Now you can put a carrot on a line between the two lists and it’ll break it into two lists. I also added support for a. An extension to cram down that lets you put double uh, carrots inside a table cell and [00:53:00] create a row band. So like a cell that, that expands it, you rows but doesn’t expand the rest of the row. Um, so you can do cell spans and row spans and it has a relaxed table version where you don’t have to have an alignment row, which is, uh, sometimes we just wanna make quickly table. You make two lines. You put some pipes in. This will, if there’s no alignment row, it will generate a table with just a table body and table data cells in no header. It also allows footers, you can add a footer to a table by using equals in the separator line. Um, it, it’s, Jeff: This is very civilized, Brett: it is. Christina: is amazing, Brett: So where Common Mark is extremely strict about things, um, apex is extremely permissive. Jeff: also itty bitty things like talk about the call out boxes from like Brett: oh yeah, it, it can handle call out syntax from Obsidian and Bear and Xcode Playgrounds. [00:54:00] Um, and it incorporates all of Mark’s syntax for like file includes and even renders like auto scroll pauses that work in marked and some other teleprompter situations. Um, it uses file ude syntax from multi markdown, like, which is just like a curly brace and, uh, marked, which is, uh, left like a double left, uh, angle bracket and then different. Brackets to surround a file name and it handles IA writer file inclusion where you just type a forward slash and then the name of a file and it automatically detects if that file is an image or source code or markdown text, and it will import it accordingly. And if it’s a CSV file, it’ll generate a table from it automatically. It’s, it’s kind of nuts. I, it’s kind of nuts. I could not have done this [00:55:00] without copilot. I, I am very thankful for copilot because my C skills are not, would not on their own, have been up to this task. I know enough to bug debug, but yeah, a lot of these features I got a big hand from copilot on. Jeff: This is also Brett. This is some serious Brett Terpstra. TURPs Hard Christina: Yeah, it is. I was gonna say, this is like Jeff: and also that’s right. Also, if your grandma ever wrote you a note and it, and though you couldn’t really read it, it really well, that renders perfectly Christina: Amazing. No, I was gonna say this is like, okay, so Apex is like the perfect name ’cause this is the apex of Brett. Jeff: Yes. Apex of Brett. Christina: That’s also that, that’s, that’s not an alternate episode title Apex of Brett. Because genuinely No, Brett, like I am, I am so stunned and impressed. I mean, you all, you always impressed me like you are the most impressive like developer that I, that I’ve ever known. But you, this is incredible. And, and this, I, I love this [00:56:00] because as you said, like common Mark is incredibly strict. This is incredibly permissive. But this is great. ’cause there are those scenarios where you might have like, I wanna use one feature from one thing or one from another, or I wanna combine things in various ways, or I don’t wanna have to think about it, you know? Brett: I aals, I forgot to mention I aals inline attribute list, which is a crammed down feature that lets you put curly brackets after like a paragraph and then a colon and then say, dot call out inside the curly brackets. And then when it renders the markdown, it creates that paragraph and adds class equals call out to the paragraph. Um, and in, in Cramon you can apply these to everything from list items to list to block quotes. Like you can do ’em for spans. You could like have one after, uh, link syntax and just apply, say dot external to a link. So the IAL syntax can add IDs classes and uh, arbitrary [00:57:00] attributes to any element in your markdown when it renders to HTML. And, uh, and Apex has first class support for I aals. Was really, that was, that Christina: that was really hard, Brett: I wrote it because I wanted, I wanted multi markdown, uh, for my prose writing, but I really missed the als. Christina: Yes. Okay. Because see, I run into this sort of thing too, right? Because like, this is a problem like that. I mean, it’s a very niche problem, um, that, that, you know, people who listen to this podcast probably are more familiar with than other types of people. But like, when you have to choose your markdown processor, which as you said, like Brett, like that can be a problem. Like, like with, with using Mark or anything else, you’re like, what am I giving up? What do I have? And, and like for me, because I started using mul, you know, markdown, um, uh, largely because of you, um, I think I was using it, I knew about it before you, but largely because of, of, of you, like multi markdown has always been like kind of my, or was historically my flavor of choice. It has since shifted to being [00:58:00] GitHub, labor bird markdown. But that’s just because the industry has taken that on, right? But there were, you know, certain things like in like, you know, multi markdown that work a certain way. And then yeah, there are things in crammed down. There are things in these other things in like, this is just, this is awesome. This Brett: It is, the whole thing is built on top of C mark, GFM, which is GitHub’s port of common mark with the GitHub flavored markdown Christina: Right. Brett: Um, and I built, like, I kept that as a sub-module, totally clean, and built all of this as extensions on top of Cmar, GFM, which, you know, so it has full compatibility with GitHub and with Common Merck by out, like outta the box. And then everything else is built on top of that. So it, uh, it covers, it covers all the bases. You’ll love it Christina: I’m so excited. No, this is awesome. And I Brett: blazing fast. It can render, I have a complex document that, that uses all of its features and it can render it in [00:59:00] 0.006 seconds. Christina: that’s awesome. Jeff: Awesome. Christina: That’s so cool. No, this is great. And yeah, I, and I think that honestly, like this is the sort of thing like if, yeah, if you can eventually get this to like be like the engine that powers like mark three, like, that’ll be really slick, right? Because then like, yeah, okay, I can take one document and then just, you know, kind of, you know, wi with, with the, you know, ha have, have the compatibility mode where you’re like, okay, the unified mode or whatever yo

¿Tu Watchtower te ha dejado alguna vez un servicio crítico caído? Es hora de automatizar la seguridad de tus contenedores Docker, ¡pero con control total y una Interfaz Gráfica (Web UI)! Tugtainer es la alternativa que estabas buscando para decirle adiós a las vulnerabilidades y a los "desastres del sábado". Si gestionas tu propio stack en Linux, esta herramienta self-hosted te va a cambiar la vida. Escucha y descubre cómo tener contenedores siempre al día, pero con seguridad.Hay dos cosas que obsesionan a cualquier administrador de sistemas que utiliza Docker en entornos self-hosted: las copias de seguridad de las bases de datos y la actualización constante de las imágenes para evitar vulnerabilidades. Aunque la actualización automática es fundamental como acción preventiva, si se hace de forma completamente desatendida, puede causar más de un trastorno.Durante años, he usado Watchtower para la mayoría de mis servicios. Sin embargo, esta herramienta, aunque se integra perfectamente con Docker y las etiquetas, tiene dos grandes problemas: carece de una interfaz gráfica para ver qué está ocurriendo y lleva tiempo sin recibir actualizaciones.El Dilema del Control:Los servicios críticos, como las páginas web que administro (con stacks de WordPress, MariaDB y Nginx), no pueden permitirse caídas. Por eso, dejé la política de actualizaciones diarias y la cambié por una revisión semanal (los sábados). Hoy, vamos a resolver este dilema: ¿Cómo conseguimos la automatización de la seguridad sin sacrificar la estabilidad?Llega Tugtainer: El Control Gráfico que NecesitabasEn este episodio, te presento una herramienta nueva y prometedora (¡con solo un mes de vida!) que se posiciona como una alternativa a Watchtower y Ouroboros. Se trata de Tugtainer, la solución que añade una Web UI completa a la gestión de actualizaciones de Docker.Lo que Aprenderás en el Episodio:Por qué mi stack web (con dependencias service_healthy) sigue dándome problemas al actualizar, y la lección aprendida.Las advertencias cruciales del desarrollador de Tugtainer: por qué no se recomienda para entornos de producción (¡al menos por ahora!).Análisis a fondo de las siete características de Tugtainer que te dan control total:Configuración por Contenedor: Decidir si un servicio CRÍTICO (como Traefik) solo se verifica o si se auto-actualiza.Programación Crontab: Control total sobre cuándo se lanzan las comprobaciones.Autenticación y Notificaciones: Seguridad y visibilidad al instante.Limpieza de imágenes: Adiós a las imágenes obsoletas que ocupan espacio.Mi propia implementación de Tugtainer con Docker Compose, Traefik y Dockge (¡una herramienta que deberías conocer!).Si utilizas Linux, Docker y buscas maximizar tu productividad y seguridad en tu VPS o Raspberry Pi, este episodio es una guía esencial para pasar de la automatización ciega a la automatización inteligente.¡Dale al play y descubre si Tugtainer se queda o no en mi propio stack de atareao!Soy Lorenzo Carbonell, "atareao". En este podcast me centro en el software libre y Linux. Mi estilo es práctico y te traigo soluciones, métodos y tutoriales para mejorar la productividad, gestionar datos y optimizar sistemas Linux. Si te interesa Docker, Neovim, Rust, Syncthing o configurar servicios en plataformas como Raspberry Pi o VPS, ¡suscríbete!Más información y enlaces en las notas del episodio

Clipboard Image Stealer Xavier presents an infostealer in Python that steals images from the clipboard. https://isc.sans.edu/diary/Clipboard%20Pictures%20Exfiltration%20in%20Python%20Infostealer/32372 F5 Compromise F5 announced a wide-ranging compromise today. Source code and information about unpatched vulnerabilities were stolen. https://my.f5.com/manage/s/article/K000157005 https://my.f5.com/manage/s/article/K000156572 https://my.f5.com/manage/s/article/K000154696 Adobe Updates Adobe updated 12 different products yesterday. https://helpx.adobe.com/security.html SAP Patchday Among the critical vulnerabilities patched in SAP s products are two deserialization vulnerabilities with a CVSS score of 10.0 https://support.sap.com/en/my-support/knowledge-base/security-notes-news/october-2025.html https://onapsis.com/blog/sap-security-patch-day-october-2025/

In this episode we sit down with James Strong, Solutions Architect at Isovalent (the team behind Cilium), to talk about one of the biggest evolutions in Kubernetes networking: the shift from Ingress-NGINX to the Gateway API.James, who is also a maintainer of Ingress-NGINX, explains why the project is being phased out and how the community is building its successor — in-gate, a new implementation designed around the Gateway API. We dive into:Why the Gateway API is the next-generation replacement for Ingress.The challenges of migrating existing workloads and dealing with technical debt.How the new API improves security, RBAC separation, and flexibility.The importance of community contribution, not just through code, but by joining discussions, testing, and providing feedback.We also discuss common misconceptions, unusual use cases (like people trying to load balance VPNs and SFTP!), and what the future looks like for networking projects in the CNCF ecosystem.An honest, behind-the-scenes look at the future of Kubernetes networking — from someone helping to build it.Stuur ons een bericht.ACC ICT Specialist in IT-CONTINUÏTEIT Bedrijfskritische applicaties én data veilig beschikbaar, onafhankelijk van derden, altijd en overalSupport the showLike and subscribe! It helps out a lot.You can also find us on:De Nederlandse Kubernetes Podcast - YouTubeNederlandse Kubernetes Podcast (@k8spodcast.nl) | TikTokDe Nederlandse Kubernetes PodcastWhere can you meet us:EventsThis Podcast is powered by:ACC ICT - IT-Continuïteit voor Bedrijfskritische Applicaties | ACC ICT

¿Estás cansado de reconstruir una imagen de Docker cada vez que necesitas cambiar un simple archivo de configuración? Este problema, que consume tiempo y recursos, es más común de lo que piensas. En este episodio de atareao con Linux, te traigo la solución definitiva para optimizar tu flujo de trabajo: las configuraciones de Docker (Docker Configs).Las configuraciones son una herramienta fundamental para la gestión de contenedores en entornos de Docker Compose y Docker Swarm. A diferencia de los volúmenes, que se centran en datos persistentes, las configs te permiten desacoplar los archivos de configuración de tus aplicaciones de la propia imagen de Docker. Esto significa que puedes crear imágenes genéricas y altamente portables, y luego adaptar su comportamiento a cada entorno (desarrollo, pruebas, producción) de manera sencilla y centralizada.En este tutorial práctico, exploraremos todo lo que necesitas saber sobre las configs:¿Qué son las configuraciones de Docker y por qué son cruciales para la productividad? Te explico su propósito y cómo su uso puede acelerar tu ciclo de desarrollo y despliegue.Diferencias clave con otras herramientas de gestión de datos de Docker. Te ayudo a entender cuándo usar configs en lugar de volúmenes o secrets para garantizar la seguridad y la eficiencia en tus proyectos.Un ejemplo práctico y detallado. Nos pondremos manos a la obra para configurar un contenedor de Nginx usando configs. Aprenderás a declarar la configuración en tu archivo docker-compose.yml, a montarla en la ruta correcta del contenedor con el parámetro target, y a establecer los permisos de acceso (mode), como el 0644 que te comenté.Este enfoque de "problema-solución" te permitirá tomar el control total sobre tus despliegues. Olvídate de la tediosa tarea de reconstruir imágenes y adopta una práctica de software de código abierto más robusta y profesional.El conocimiento que adquirirás en este episodio es aplicable a un sinfín de proyectos, ya sea que estés configurando un proxy inverso con Traefik, una base de datos o un servicio de sincronización como Syncthing en una Raspberry Pi o un VPS. Con esta herramienta, podrás hacer "cualquier cosa que quieras hacer con Linux" de forma más inteligente y eficiente.¡Prepárate para llevar tu gestión de Docker al siguiente nivel y optimizar tus sistemas como nunca antes!Más información y enlaces en las notas del episodio

¿Estás cansado de reconstruir una imagen de Docker cada vez que necesitas cambiar un simple archivo de configuración? Este problema, que consume tiempo y recursos, es más común de lo que piensas. En este episodio de atareao con Linux, te traigo la solución definitiva para optimizar tu flujo de trabajo: las configuraciones de Docker (Docker Configs).Las configuraciones son una herramienta fundamental para la gestión de contenedores en entornos de Docker Compose y Docker Swarm. A diferencia de los volúmenes, que se centran en datos persistentes, las configs te permiten desacoplar los archivos de configuración de tus aplicaciones de la propia imagen de Docker. Esto significa que puedes crear imágenes genéricas y altamente portables, y luego adaptar su comportamiento a cada entorno (desarrollo, pruebas, producción) de manera sencilla y centralizada.En este tutorial práctico, exploraremos todo lo que necesitas saber sobre las configs:¿Qué son las configuraciones de Docker y por qué son cruciales para la productividad? Te explico su propósito y cómo su uso puede acelerar tu ciclo de desarrollo y despliegue.Diferencias clave con otras herramientas de gestión de datos de Docker. Te ayudo a entender cuándo usar configs en lugar de volúmenes o secrets para garantizar la seguridad y la eficiencia en tus proyectos.Un ejemplo práctico y detallado. Nos pondremos manos a la obra para configurar un contenedor de Nginx usando configs. Aprenderás a declarar la configuración en tu archivo docker-compose.yml, a montarla en la ruta correcta del contenedor con el parámetro target, y a establecer los permisos de acceso (mode), como el 0644 que te comenté.Este enfoque de "problema-solución" te permitirá tomar el control total sobre tus despliegues. Olvídate de la tediosa tarea de reconstruir imágenes y adopta una práctica de software de código abierto más robusta y profesional.El conocimiento que adquirirás en este episodio es aplicable a un sinfín de proyectos, ya sea que estés configurando un proxy inverso con Traefik, una base de datos o un servicio de sincronización como Syncthing en una Raspberry Pi o un VPS. Con esta herramienta, podrás hacer "cualquier cosa que quieras hacer con Linux" de forma más inteligente y eficiente.¡Prepárate para llevar tu gestión de Docker al siguiente nivel y optimizar tus sistemas como nunca antes!Más información y enlaces en las notas del episodio

Topics covered in this episode: * rathole* * pre-commit: install with uv* A good example of what functools.Placeholder from Python 3.14 allows Converted 160 old blog posts with AI Extras Joke Watch on YouTube About the show Sponsored by DigitalOcean: pythonbytes.fm/digitalocean-gen-ai Use code DO4BYTES and get $200 in free credit Connect with the hosts Michael: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org / @mkennedy.codes (bsky) Brian: @brianokken@fosstodon.org / @brianokken.bsky.social Show: @pythonbytes@fosstodon.org / @pythonbytes.fm (bsky) Join us on YouTube at pythonbytes.fm/live to be part of the audience. Usually Monday at 10am PT. Older video versions available there too. Finally, if you want an artisanal, hand-crafted digest of every week of the show notes in email form? Add your name and email to our friends of the show list, we'll never share it. Michael #1: rathole A lightweight and high-performance reverse proxy for NAT traversal, written in Rust. An alternative to frp and ngrok. Features High Performance Much higher throughput can be achieved than frp, and more stable when handling a large volume of connections. Low Resource Consumption Consumes much fewer memory than similar tools. See Benchmark. The binary can be as small as ~500KiB to fit the constraints of devices, like embedded devices as routers. On my server, it's currently using about 2.7MB in Docker (wow!) Security Tokens of services are mandatory and service-wise. The server and clients are responsible for their own configs. With the optional Noise Protocol, encryption can be configured at ease. No need to create a self-signed certificate! TLS is also supported. Hot Reload Services can be added or removed dynamically by hot-reloading the configuration file. HTTP API is WIP. Brian #2: pre-commit: install with uv Adam Johnson pre-commit doesn't natively support uv, but you can get around that with pre-commit-uv $ uv tool install pre-commit --with pre-commit-uv Installing pre-commit like this Installs it globally Installs with uv adds an extra plugin “pre-commit-uv” to pre-commit, so that any Python based tool installed via pre-commit also uses uv Very cool. Nice speedup Brian #3: A good example of what functools.Placeholder from Python 3.14 allows Rodrigo Girão Serrão Remove punctuation functionally Also How to use functools.Placeholder, a blog post about it. functools.partial is cool way to create a new function that partially binds some parameters to another function. It doesn't always work for functions that take positional arguments. functools.Placeholder fixes that with the ability to put in placeholders for spots where you want to be able to pass that in from the outer partial binding. And all of this sounds totally obscure without a good example, so thank you to Rodgrigo for coming up with the punctuation removal example (and writeup) Michael #4: Converted 160 old blog posts with AI They were held-hostage at wordpress.com to markdown and integrated them into my Hugo site at mkennedy.codes Here is the chat conversation with Claude Opus/Sonnet. Had to juggle this a bit because the RSS feed only held the last 50. So we had to go back in and web scrape. That resulted in oddies like comments on wordpress that had to be cleaned etc. Whole process took 3-4 hours from idea to “production”duction”. The chat transcript is just the first round getting the RSS → Hugo done. The fixes occurred in other chats. This article is timely and noteworthy: Blogging service TypePad is shutting down and taking all blog content with it This highlights why your domain name needs to be legit, not just tied to the host. I'm looking at you pyfound.blogspot.com. I just redirected blog.michaelckennedy.net to mkennedy.codes Carefully mapping old posts to a new archived area using NGINX config. This is just the HTTP portion, but note the /sitemap.xml and location ~ "^/([0-9]{4})/([0-9]{2})/([0-9]{2})/(.+?)/?$" { portions. The latter maps posts such as https://blog.michaelckennedy.net/2018/01/08/a-bunch-of-online-python-courses/ to https://mkennedy.codes/posts/r/a-bunch-of-online-python-courses/ server { listen 80; server_name blog.michaelckennedy.net; # Redirect sitemap.xml to new domain location = /sitemap.xml { return 301 ; } # Handle blog post redirects for HTTP -> HTTPS with URL transformation # Pattern: /YYYY/MM/DD/post-slug/ -> location ~ "^/([0-9]{4})/([0-9]{2})/([0-9]{2})/(.+?)/?$" { return 301 ; } # Redirect all other HTTP URLs to mkennedy.codes homepage location / { return 301 ; } } Extras Brian: SMS URLs and Draft SMS and iMessage from any computer keyboard from Seth Larson Test and Code Archive is now up, see announcement Michael: Python: The Documentary | An origin story is out! Joke: Do you know him? He is me.

زمان كنا بنعمل ديبولويمِنت للفرونت إند بكم أمر بسيط على Nginx أو سيرفر عادي وخلاص.دلوقتي مع كل الادوات والـ platforms الجديدة بقينا بنعتمد على أوتوميشن زيادة ونسينا الأساسيات. النسيان ده مش بس بيخلينا نفقد السيطرة، ده كمان بيكلفنا فلوس أكتر من اللازم.في الحلقة دي هنتكلم عن إزاي نرجع نفكر في الـ Deployment كمهارة أساسية، إزاي نستخدمها كـ cost optimization حقيقي للبزنس، وإزاي نقدر ندخل لوجيك ذكي بين الـ stacks.الحلقة دي هي حلقة عن النوستالجيا، التوفير، وفن Deployment اللي محتاجين نفتكره من جديد.

　コンテナアプリケーションを管理するソフトウェアとして世界的に利用されている Kubernetes が公式にサポートしている管理用ソフトウェアである Ingress NGINX Controller にて、遠隔からの任意のコード実行につながる脆弱性が報告されています。

In this engaging conversation, Bill Kennedy interviews Peter Kelly, VP of Engineering at Tigera, exploring his journey from early experiences with technology to his current role in the tech industry. They discuss the impact of education, sports, and family background on Peter's career path, as well as the challenges faced by young people today in navigating their futures. The conversation also delves into hiring practices and the importance of personal connections in the recruitment process.00:00 Introduction01:00 What is Peter Doing Today?O4:20 First Memory of a Computer9:30 Family Background12:00 Secondary School19:00 Passion for Soccer24:00 Interviewing and Hiring31:00 Entering University 40:30 Work Experience 54:00 AI Tooling 01:07:00 First Go Experience1:14:00 Beginning of Tigera1:37:30 Contact InfoConnect with Peter: Linkedin: https://ie.linkedin.com/in/peterkellyonlineMentioned in this Episode:Tigera: https://www.tigera.io/Want more from Ardan Labs? You can learn Go, Kubernetes, Docker & more through our video training, live events, or through our blog!Online Courses : https://ardanlabs.com/education/ Live Events : https://www.ardanlabs.com/live-training-events/ Blog : https://www.ardanlabs.com/blog Github : https://github.com/ardanlabs

Installing Oracle GoldenGate 23ai is more than just running a setup file—it's about preparing your system for efficient, reliable data replication. In this episode, Lois Houston and Nikita welcome back Nick Wagner to break down system requirements, storage considerations, and best practices for installing GoldenGate.   You'll learn how to optimize disk space, manage trail files, and configure network settings to ensure a smooth installation.   Oracle GoldenGate 23ai: Fundamentals: https://mylearn.oracle.com/ou/course/oracle-goldengate-23ai-fundamentals/145884/237273 Oracle University Learning Community: https://education.oracle.com/ou-community LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/oracle-university/ X: https://x.com/Oracle_Edu   Special thanks to Arijit Ghosh, David Wright, Kris-Ann Nansen, Radhika Banka, and the OU Studio Team for helping us create this episode.   -------------------------------------------------------------   Episode Transcript: 00:00 Welcome to the Oracle University Podcast, the first stop on your cloud journey. During this series of informative podcasts, we'll bring you foundational training on the most popular Oracle technologies. Let's get started! 00:25 Nikita: Hello and welcome to Oracle University Podcast! I'm Nikita Abraham, Team Lead of Editorial Services with Oracle University, and I'm joined by Lois Houston, Director of Innovation Programs.  Lois: Hi there! Last week, we took a close look at the security strategies of Oracle GoldenGate 23ai. In this episode, we'll discuss all aspects of installing GoldenGate. 00:48 Nikita: That's right, Lois. And back with us today is Nick Wagner, Senior Director of Product Management for GoldenGate at Oracle. Hi Nick! I'm going to get straight into it. What are the system requirements for a typical GoldenGate installation? Nick: As far as system requirements, we're going to split that into two sections. We've got an operating system requirements and a storage requirements. So with memory and disk, and I know that this isn't the answer you want, but the answer is that it varies. With GoldenGate, the amount of CPU usage that is required depends on the number of extracts and replicats. It also depends on the number of threads that you're going to be using for those replicats. Same thing with RAM and disk usage. That's going to vary on the transaction sizes and the number of long running transactions. 01:35 Lois: And how does the recovery process in GoldenGate impact system resources?  Nick: You've got two things that help the extract recovery. You've got the bonded recovery that will store transactions over a certain length of time to disk. It also has a cache manager setting that determines what gets written to disk as part of open transactions. It's not just the simple answer as, oh, it needs this much space. GoldenGate also needs to store trail files for the data that it's moving across. So if there's network latency, or if you expect a certain network outage, or you have certain SLAs for the target database that may not be met, you need to make sure that GoldenGate has enough room to store its trail files as it's writing them. The good news about all this is that you can track it. You can use parameters to set them. And we do have some metrics that we'll provide to you on how to size these environments. So a couple of things on the disk usage. The actual installation of GoldenGate is about 1 to 1.5 gig in size, depending on which version of GoldenGate you're going to be using and what database. The trail files themselves, they default to 500 megabytes apiece. A lot of customers keep them on disk longer than they're necessary, and so there's all sorts of purging options available in GoldenGate. But you can set up purge rules to say, hey, I want to get rid of my trail files as soon as they're not needed anymore. But you can also say, you know what? I want to keep my trail files around for x number of days, even if they're not needed. That way they can be rebuilt. I can restore from any previous point in time. 03:15 Nikita: Let's talk a bit more about trail files. How do these files grow and what settings can users adjust to manage their storage efficiently? Nick: The trail files grow at about 30% to 35% of the generated redo log data. So if I'm generating 100 gigabytes of redo an hour, then you can expect the trail files to be anywhere from 30 to 35 gigabytes an hour of generated data. And this is if you're replicating everything. Again, GoldenGate's got so many different options. There's so many different ways to use it. In some cases, if you're going to a distributed applications and analytics environment, like a Databricks or a Snowflake, you might want to write more information to the trail file than what's necessary. Maybe I want additional information, such as when this change happened, who the user was that made that change. I can add specific token data. You can also tell GoldenGate to log additional records or additional columns to the trail file that may not have been changed. So I can always say, hey, GoldenGate, replicate and store the entire before and after image of every single row change to your trail file, even if those columns didn't change. And so there's a lot of different ways to do it there. But generally speaking, the default settings, you're looking at about 30% to 35% of the generated redo log value. System swap can fill up quickly. You do want this as a dedicated disk as well. System swap is often used for just handling of the changes, as GoldenGate flushes data from memory down to disk. These are controlled by a couple of parameters. So because GoldenGate is only writing committed activity to the trail file, the log reader inside the database is actually giving GoldenGate not only committed activity but uncommitted activity, too. And this is so it can stay very high speed and very low latency. 05:17 Lois: So, what are the parameters? Nick: There's a cache manager overall feature, and there's a cache directory. That directory controls where that data is actually stored, so you can specify the location of the uncommitted transactions. You can also specify the cache size. And there's not only memory settings here, but there's also disk settings. So you can say, hey, once a cache size exceeds a certain memory usage, then start flushing to disk, which is going to be slower. This is for systems that maybe have less memory but more high-speed disk. You can optimize these parameters as necessary. 05:53 Nikita: And how does GoldenGate adjust these parameters? Nick: For most environments, you're just going to leave them alone. They're automatically configured to look at the system memory available on that system and not use it all. And then as soon as necessary, it'll overflow to disk. There's also intelligent settings built within these parameters and within the cache manager itself that if it starts seeing a lull in activity or your traditional OLTP type responses to actually free up the memory that it has allocated. Or if it starts seeing more activity around data warehousing type things where you're doing large transactions, it'll actually hold on to memory a little bit longer. So it kinda learns as it goes through your environment and starts replicating data. 06:37 Lois: Is there anything else you think we should talk about before we move on to installing GoldenGate?  Nick: There's a couple additional things you need to think of with the network as well. So when you're deploying GoldenGate, you definitely want it to use the fastest network.  GoldenGate can also use a reverse proxy, especially important with microservices. Reverse proxy, typically we recommend Nginx. And it allows you to access any of the GoldenGate microservices using a single port.  GoldenGate also needs either host names or IP addresses to do its communication and to ensure the system is available. It does a lot of communication through TCP and IP as well as WSS. And then it also handles firewalls. So you want to make sure that the firewalls are open for ingress and egress for GoldenGate, too. There's a couple of different privileges that GoldenGate needs when you go to install it. You'll want to make sure that GoldenGate has the ability to write to the home where you're installing it. That's kind of obvious, but we need to say it anyways. There's a utility called oggca.sh. That's the GoldenGate Configuration Assistant that allows you to set up your first deployments and manage additional deployments. That needs permissions to write to the directories where you're going to be creating the new deployments. The extract process needs connection and permissions to read the transaction logs or backups. This is not important for Oracle, but for non-Oracle it is. And then we also recommend a dedicated database user for the extract and replicat connections. 08:15 Are you keen to stay ahead in today's fast-paced world? We've got your back! Each quarter, Oracle rolls out game-changing updates to its Fusion Cloud Applications. And to make sure you're always in the know, we offer New Features courses that give you an insider's look at all of the latest advancements. Don't miss out! Head over to mylearn.oracle.com to get started. 08:41 Nikita: Welcome back! So Nick, how do we get started with the installation?  Nick: So when we go to the install, the first thing you're going to do is go ahead and go to Oracle's website and download the software. Because of the way that GoldenGate works, there's only a couple moving parts. You saw the microservices. There's five or six of them. You have your extract, your replicat, your distribution service, trail files. There's not a lot of moving components. So if something does go wrong, usually it affects multiple customers. And so it's very important that when you go to install GoldenGate, you're using the most recent bundle patch. And you can find this within My Oracle Support. It's not always available directly from OTN or from the Oracle e-delivery website. You can still get them there, but we really want people going to My Oracle Support to download the most recent version. There's a couple of environment variables and certificates that you'll set up as well. And then you'll run the Configuration Assistant to create your deployments.  09:44 Lois: Thanks, Nick, for taking us though the installation of GoldenGate. Because these are highly UI-driven topics, we recommend that you take a deep dive into the GoldenGate 23ai Fundamentals course, available on mylearn.oracle.com. Nikita: In our next episode, we'll talk about the Extract process. Until then, this is Nikita Abraham… Lois: And Lois Houston signing off! 10:08 That's all for this episode of the Oracle University Podcast. If you enjoyed listening, please click Subscribe to get all the latest episodes. We'd also love it if you would take a moment to rate and review us on your podcast app. See you again on the next episode of the Oracle University Podcast.

In this episode, recorded live at DevWorld 2025 in Amsterdam, we sit down with Dave McAllister, Senior Open Source Technologist at NGINX, for a fast-paced, thought-provoking—and surprisingly funny—conversation about observability, statistics, and Kubernetes traffic management.Dave takes us on a journey through the real meaning behind metrics like mean, median, and mode, and explains why so many DevOps teams misread their alerts and dashboards. Using eye-opening anecdotes (yes, including one about beer sales and marriage licenses), he breaks down the danger of acting on misleading correlations and why using the wrong statistical model can lead to chaos.We also dive deep into the future of Ingress versus the Gateway API, the evolution of NGINX's role in Kubernetes environments, and what makes some tools “just good enough” while others aim for performance and reliability at scale.Expect insights on everything from Poisson distributions to eBPF, all wrapped in Dave's sharp storytelling style and decades of open source experience.Stuur ons een bericht.Support the showLike and subscribe! It helps out a lot.You can also find us on:De Nederlandse Kubernetes Podcast - YouTubeNederlandse Kubernetes Podcast (@k8spodcast.nl) | TikTokDe Nederlandse Kubernetes PodcastWhere can you meet us:EventsThis Podcast is powered by:ACC ICT - IT-Continuïteit voor Bedrijfskritische Applicaties | ACC ICT

Desde un login para #traefik hasta bloquear acceso por ip a tus servicios autoalojados y otras cinco recomendaciones para exprimir tu proxy inversoSi bien llevo utilizando Traefik como proxy inverso varios años mas, habiendo, incluso, superado la transición del 1.7 al 2.X, lo cierto es que no paro de descubrir nuevas características y opciones para exprimir el proxy. En general la mayoría de las recomendaciones de las que te voy a hablar son aplicables a cualquier proxy, y otras son mas particulares, o al menos mas fáciles de aplicar con Traefik. De cualquier forma, son ideas o conceptos que se pueden trasladar a otros proxy como Caddy o Nginx, de forma mas o menos sencilla. Aquí simplemente se trata de revisar estas recomendaciones y que dependiendo de la solución que tengas la apliques.Más información y enlaces en las notas del episodio

Desde un login para #traefik hasta bloquear acceso por ip a tus servicios autoalojados y otras cinco recomendaciones para exprimir tu proxy inversoSi bien llevo utilizando Traefik como proxy inverso varios años mas, habiendo, incluso, superado la transición del 1.7 al 2.X, lo cierto es que no paro de descubrir nuevas características y opciones para exprimir el proxy. En general la mayoría de las recomendaciones de las que te voy a hablar son aplicables a cualquier proxy, y otras son mas particulares, o al menos mas fáciles de aplicar con Traefik. De cualquier forma, son ideas o conceptos que se pueden trasladar a otros proxy como Caddy o Nginx, de forma mas o menos sencilla. Aquí simplemente se trata de revisar estas recomendaciones y que dependiendo de la solución que tengas la apliques.Más información y enlaces en las notas del episodio

Apple Updates Apple released updates for iOS, iPadOS, macOS, and VisionOS. The updates fix two vulnerabilities which had already been exploited against iOS. https://isc.sans.edu/diary/Apple%20Patches%20Exploited%20Vulnerability/31866 Oracle Updates Oracle released it quarterly critical patch update. The update addresses 378 security vulnerabilities. Many of the critical updates are already known vulnerabilities in open-source software like Apache and Nginx ingress. https://www.oracle.com/security-alerts/cpuapr2025.html Oracle Breach Guidance CISA released guidance for users affected by the recent Oracle cloud breach. The guidance focuses on the likely loss of passwords. https://www.cisa.gov/news-events/alerts/2025/04/16/cisa-releases-guidance-credential-risks-associated-potential-legacy-oracle-cloud-compromise Google Chrome Update A Google Chrome update released today fixes two security vulnerabilities. One of the vulnerabilities is rated as critical. https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2025/04/stable-channel-update-for-desktop_15.html CVE Updates CISA extended MITRE s funding to operate the CVE numbering scheme. However, a number of other organizations announced that they may start alternative vulnerability registers. https://euvd.enisa.europa.eu/ https://gcve.eu/ https://www.thecvefoundation.org/

In this episode of Linux Out Loud, we explore the latest in Linux hardware experiments, distro discoveries, and creative workflows. Wendy walks through her setup with Fedora 41 and DaVinci Resolve, Matt dives into Windows frustrations, and Nate teases his excitement about trying out Bazzite, even before getting hands-on with the OneXPlayer. We chat about eGPU setups, Wayland oddities, 3D printer troubleshooting with Mainsail and NGINX, and highlight the unique challenges (and wins) of gaming on Linux—like Dark Envoy. It's a lively mix of tech insights, problem-solving, and distro excitement—all wrapped in open-source goodness. Find the rest of the show notes at https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/linux-out-loud/lol-109/ Contact info Matt (Twitter @MattTDN (https://twitter.com/MattTDN)) Wendy (Mastodon @WendyDLN (https://mastodon.online/@WendyDLN)) Nate (Website CubicleNate.com (https://cubiclenate.com/)) Bill (Discord: ctlinux, Mastodon @ctlinux)

Critical Remote Code Execution vulnerabilities affect Kubernetes controllers. Senior Trump administration officials allegedly use unsecured platforms for national security discussions. Even experts like Troy Hunt get phished. Google acknowledges user data loss but doesn't explain it. Chinese hackers spent four years inside an Asian telecom firm. SnakeKeylogger is a stealthy, multi-stage credential-stealing malware. A cybercrime crackdown results in over 300 arrests across seven African countries. Ben Yelin, Caveat co-host and Program Director, Public Policy & External Affairs at the University of Maryland Center for Health and Homeland Security, joins to discuss the Signal national security leak. Pew Research Center figures out how its online polling got slightly forked. Remember to leave us a 5-star rating and review in your favorite podcast app. Miss an episode? Sign-up for our daily intelligence roundup, Daily Briefing, and you'll never miss a beat. And be sure to follow CyberWire Daily on LinkedIn. CyberWire Guest We are joined by Ben Yelin, Caveat co-host and Program Director, Public Policy & External Affairs at the University of Maryland Center for Health and Homeland Security, on the Signal national security leak. Selected Reading IngressNightmare: critical Kubernetes vulnerabilities in ingress NGINX controller (Beyond Machines) Remote Code Execution Vulnerabilities in Ingress NGINX (Wiz)  Ingress-nginx CVE-2025-1974: What You Need to Know (Kubernetes)  Trump administration is reviewing how its national security team sent military plans to a magazine editor (NBC News) The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Its War Plans (The Atlantic) How Russian Hackers Are Exploiting Signal 'Linked Devices' Feature for Real-Time Spying (SecurityWeek) Troy Hunt: A Sneaky Phish Just Grabbed my Mailchimp Mailing List (Troy Hunt) 'Technical issue' at Google deletes some customer data (The Register) Chinese hackers spent four years inside Asian telco's networks (The Record) Multistage Info Stealer SnakeKeylogger Attacking Individuals and Businesses to Steal Logins (Cyber Security News) Over 300 arrested in international crackdown on cyber scams (The Record) How a glitch in an online survey replaced the word ‘yes' with ‘forks' (Pew Research) Share your feedback. We want to ensure that you are getting the most out of the podcast. Please take a few minutes to share your thoughts with us by completing our brief listener survey as we continually work to improve the show.  Want to hear your company in the show? You too can reach the most influential leaders and operators in the industry. Here's our media kit. Contact us at cyberwire@n2k.com to request more info. The CyberWire is a production of N2K Networks, your source for strategic workforce intelligence. © N2K Networks, Inc. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Microsoft has revamped its AI-powered Recall feature, shifting from automatic to opt-in use with enhanced security measures like full encryption and Windows Hello authentication, addressing privacy concerns. California Governor Gavin Newsom vetoed SB-1047, which aimed to regulate AI models, citing concerns that smaller models outside the regulation's scope might pose greater risks. Meanwhile, OpenAI is facing a leadership shakeup as CTO Mira Murati and other key executives depart, coinciding with a shift in the company's focus toward a more traditional startup model under Sam Altman's leadership. This and more on the Gestalt IT Rundown. Time Stamps: 0:00 - Welcome to the Rundown 0:58 - Rackspace Gets Attacked, Logically 4:09 - Hurricane Helene Disrupts Critical Supply Chain 8:34 - Tech Giants and Government Support Spark a New Nuclear Renaissance? 14:11 - F5 Launches NGINX One 17:34 - NIST Gives Tips on Passwords 22:20 - AI Safety Roundup 40:39 - The Weeks Ahead 42:37 - Thanks for Watching Hosts: Tom Hollingsworth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/networkingnerd/ Jack Poller: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jackpoller/ Follow Gestalt IT Website: https://www.GestaltIT.com/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/GestaltIT LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/Gestalt-IT #Rundown, #Cybersecurity, #AISafety, #AI, @GestaltIT, @TheFuturumGroup, @TechFieldDay, @NetworkingNerd, @Poller, @Rackspace, @NGINX, @NIST, @OpenAI, @Microsoft,

This is a recap of the top 10 posts on Hacker News on September 6th, 2024.This podcast was generated by wondercraft.ai(00:39): Did Sandia use a thermonuclear secondary in a product logo?Original post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41463809&utm_source=wondercraft_ai(01:54): 2M users but no money in the bankOriginal post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41463734&utm_source=wondercraft_ai(02:58): Swift is a more convenient RustOriginal post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41464371&utm_source=wondercraft_ai(04:06): Nginx has moved to GitHubOriginal post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41466963&utm_source=wondercraft_ai(05:13): Effects of Gen AI on High Skilled Work: Experiments with Software DevelopersOriginal post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41465081&utm_source=wondercraft_ai(06:23): Study: Playing D&D helps autistic players in social interactionsOriginal post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41464347&utm_source=wondercraft_ai(07:41): Hardware Acceleration of LLMs: A comprehensive survey and comparisonOriginal post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41470074&utm_source=wondercraft_ai(08:55): Godot founders had desperately hoped Unity wouldn't 'blow up'Original post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41468667&utm_source=wondercraft_ai(10:06): Inertia.js – Build React, Vue, or Svelte apps with server-side routingOriginal post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41465900&utm_source=wondercraft_ai(11:11): Parkinson's may begin in the gut, study says, adding to growing evidenceOriginal post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41466724&utm_source=wondercraft_aiThis is a third-party project, independent from HN and YC. Text and audio generated using AI, by wondercraft.ai. Create your own studio quality podcast with text as the only input in seconds at app.wondercraft.ai. Issues or feedback? We'd love to hear from you: team@wondercraft.ai

Scott and Wes serve up an episode on reverse proxy servers. They discuss popular options like CF Tunnels, Caddy, Nginx, Apache, and more, explaining why you might need one for load balancing, SSL certificates, security, and managing multiple servers. Show Notes 00:00 Welcome to Syntax! 01:30 Brought to you by Sentry.io. 02:25 What is reverse proxy? 03:16 Some examples of reverse proxies. 05:04 Why do you need a reverse proxy? 05:09 Combining multiple servers. 06:51 Load balancing. 07:23 SSL certificates. 10:30 Security. 10:37 Conceal your true IP. 11:24 Access management. 12:31 Routing static assets. 13:31 CDN / local. 15:55 Caddy × websocket support. Hit us up on Socials! Syntax: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Wes: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Scott: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Randy: X Instagram YouTube Threads

It's only been one week, but it's really been 14 years, and Paul is calling: Microsoft and Qualcomm have finally made Windows 11 on Arm both viable and desirable. Nothing is perfect, but this platform is pretty incredible. Some notes from the past week: Mission Accomplished As a reminder, Paul finally got the Yoga Slim 7x last week and updated on app compatibility, hardware compatibility, gaming, and in-box AI experiences in time for WW - only found one non-working app, Google Drive. Then... More app and game compatibility testing. Since then, played a lot more DOOM (2016), ran into one issue that's surely WOA-related (note beta graphics driver, though) Video encoding performance: Snapdragon X vs Snapdragon X vs Core Ultra 9 H-series vs MacBook Air M3 Initial thoughts on battery life and then More thoughts on battery life. The Yoga Slim 9x and Surface Laptop both get about 10 hours of real-world battery life (so far), compared to 15 hours for the MacBook Air 15-inch M3. Hardware compatibility update: Only one of my devices doesn't work, the Focusrite. Surface Laptop 7 first impressions and second impressions HP Elitebook Ultra first impressions Windows 11 After skipping Week D last Tuesday, Microsoft belatedly delivers a Week D preview update for Windows 11 version 24H2 No new features, so next Patch Tuesday will be light for 24H2 22H2 and 23H2 got a big Week D update last Tuesday, so Patch Tuesday will be meaningful As of July's Patch Tuesday, 22H2, 23H2, and 24H2 will all provide the same basic feature set Canary, Dev, Beta (last Friday): nothing exciting, a few small features or changes AI & Microsoft 365 European Commission "shifts" investigation of Microsoft/OpenAI partnership. Is Ken Starr in charge of this thing? Microsoft highlights new Copilot features coming to Microsoft 365 in July Copilot in OneNote can now recognize handwritten text. It's 2002 all over again! Pixel 9 family will promote unique "Google AI" features Brave introduces a BYOM plan for its web browser Thanks to AI, Google Translate now supports 110 new languages Xbox Xbox Cloud Gaming Fire Sticks it to Amazon Another two weeks of Xbox Game Pass Forza Horizon 4 (from 2018) to be delisted December 15. Why? Tips and Picks Tip of the week: Get $10 off Tony Redmond's Office 365 for IT Pros 11th Edition App pick of the week: Docs in Proton Drive RunAs Radio this week: NGINX as a Service with Buu Lam Brown liquor pick of the week: Jack Daniels Old No. 7 Hosts: Leo Laporte, Paul Thurrott, and Richard Campbell Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/windows-weekly Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit Check out Paul's blog at thurrott.com The Windows Weekly theme music is courtesy of Carl Franklin. Sponsors: canary.tools/twit - use code: TWIT cachefly.com/twit

It's only been one week, but it's really been 14 years, and Paul is calling: Microsoft and Qualcomm have finally made Windows 11 on Arm both viable and desirable. Nothing is perfect, but this platform is pretty incredible. Some notes from the past week: Mission Accomplished As a reminder, Paul finally got the Yoga Slim 7x last week and updated on app compatibility, hardware compatibility, gaming, and in-box AI experiences in time for WW - only found one non-working app, Google Drive. Then... More app and game compatibility testing. Since then, played a lot more DOOM (2016), ran into one issue that's surely WOA-related (note beta graphics driver, though) Video encoding performance: Snapdragon X vs Snapdragon X vs Core Ultra 9 H-series vs MacBook Air M3 Initial thoughts on battery life and then More thoughts on battery life. The Yoga Slim 9x and Surface Laptop both get about 10 hours of real-world battery life (so far), compared to 15 hours for the MacBook Air 15-inch M3. Hardware compatibility update: Only one of my devices doesn't work, the Focusrite. Surface Laptop 7 first impressions and second impressions HP Elitebook Ultra first impressions Windows 11 After skipping Week D last Tuesday, Microsoft belatedly delivers a Week D preview update for Windows 11 version 24H2 No new features, so next Patch Tuesday will be light for 24H2 22H2 and 23H2 got a big Week D update last Tuesday, so Patch Tuesday will be meaningful As of July's Patch Tuesday, 22H2, 23H2, and 24H2 will all provide the same basic feature set Canary, Dev, Beta (last Friday): nothing exciting, a few small features or changes AI & Microsoft 365 European Commission "shifts" investigation of Microsoft/OpenAI partnership. Is Ken Starr in charge of this thing? Microsoft highlights new Copilot features coming to Microsoft 365 in July Copilot in OneNote can now recognize handwritten text. It's 2002 all over again! Pixel 9 family will promote unique "Google AI" features Brave introduces a BYOM plan for its web browser Thanks to AI, Google Translate now supports 110 new languages Xbox Xbox Cloud Gaming Fire Sticks it to Amazon Another two weeks of Xbox Game Pass Forza Horizon 4 (from 2018) to be delisted December 15. Why? Tips and Picks Tip of the week: Get $10 off Tony Redmond's Office 365 for IT Pros 11th Edition App pick of the week: Docs in Proton Drive RunAs Radio this week: NGINX as a Service with Buu Lam Brown liquor pick of the week: Jack Daniels Old No. 7 Hosts: Leo Laporte, Paul Thurrott, and Richard Campbell Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/windows-weekly Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit Check out Paul's blog at thurrott.com The Windows Weekly theme music is courtesy of Carl Franklin. Sponsors: canary.tools/twit - use code: TWIT cachefly.com/twit

It's only been one week, but it's really been 14 years, and Paul is calling: Microsoft and Qualcomm have finally made Windows 11 on Arm both viable and desirable. Nothing is perfect, but this platform is pretty incredible. Some notes from the past week: Mission Accomplished As a reminder, Paul finally got the Yoga Slim 7x last week and updated on app compatibility, hardware compatibility, gaming, and in-box AI experiences in time for WW - only found one non-working app, Google Drive. Then... More app and game compatibility testing. Since then, played a lot more DOOM (2016), ran into one issue that's surely WOA-related (note beta graphics driver, though) Video encoding performance: Snapdragon X vs Snapdragon X vs Core Ultra 9 H-series vs MacBook Air M3 Initial thoughts on battery life and then More thoughts on battery life. The Yoga Slim 9x and Surface Laptop both get about 10 hours of real-world battery life (so far), compared to 15 hours for the MacBook Air 15-inch M3. Hardware compatibility update: Only one of my devices doesn't work, the Focusrite. Surface Laptop 7 first impressions and second impressions HP Elitebook Ultra first impressions Windows 11 After skipping Week D last Tuesday, Microsoft belatedly delivers a Week D preview update for Windows 11 version 24H2 No new features, so next Patch Tuesday will be light for 24H2 22H2 and 23H2 got a big Week D update last Tuesday, so Patch Tuesday will be meaningful As of July's Patch Tuesday, 22H2, 23H2, and 24H2 will all provide the same basic feature set Canary, Dev, Beta (last Friday): nothing exciting, a few small features or changes AI & Microsoft 365 European Commission "shifts" investigation of Microsoft/OpenAI partnership. Is Ken Starr in charge of this thing? Microsoft highlights new Copilot features coming to Microsoft 365 in July Copilot in OneNote can now recognize handwritten text. It's 2002 all over again! Pixel 9 family will promote unique "Google AI" features Brave introduces a BYOM plan for its web browser Thanks to AI, Google Translate now supports 110 new languages Xbox Xbox Cloud Gaming Fire Sticks it to Amazon Another two weeks of Xbox Game Pass Forza Horizon 4 (from 2018) to be delisted December 15. Why? Tips and Picks Tip of the week: Get $10 off Tony Redmond's Office 365 for IT Pros 11th Edition App pick of the week: Docs in Proton Drive RunAs Radio this week: NGINX as a Service with Buu Lam Brown liquor pick of the week: Jack Daniels Old No. 7 Hosts: Leo Laporte, Paul Thurrott, and Richard Campbell Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/windows-weekly Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit Check out Paul's blog at thurrott.com The Windows Weekly theme music is courtesy of Carl Franklin. Sponsors: canary.tools/twit - use code: TWIT cachefly.com/twit

It's only been one week, but it's really been 14 years, and Paul is calling: Microsoft and Qualcomm have finally made Windows 11 on Arm both viable and desirable. Nothing is perfect, but this platform is pretty incredible. Some notes from the past week: Mission Accomplished As a reminder, Paul finally got the Yoga Slim 7x last week and updated on app compatibility, hardware compatibility, gaming, and in-box AI experiences in time for WW - only found one non-working app, Google Drive. Then... More app and game compatibility testing. Since then, played a lot more DOOM (2016), ran into one issue that's surely WOA-related (note beta graphics driver, though) Video encoding performance: Snapdragon X vs Snapdragon X vs Core Ultra 9 H-series vs MacBook Air M3 Initial thoughts on battery life and then More thoughts on battery life. The Yoga Slim 9x and Surface Laptop both get about 10 hours of real-world battery life (so far), compared to 15 hours for the MacBook Air 15-inch M3. Hardware compatibility update: Only one of my devices doesn't work, the Focusrite. Surface Laptop 7 first impressions and second impressions HP Elitebook Ultra first impressions Windows 11 After skipping Week D last Tuesday, Microsoft belatedly delivers a Week D preview update for Windows 11 version 24H2 No new features, so next Patch Tuesday will be light for 24H2 22H2 and 23H2 got a big Week D update last Tuesday, so Patch Tuesday will be meaningful As of July's Patch Tuesday, 22H2, 23H2, and 24H2 will all provide the same basic feature set Canary, Dev, Beta (last Friday): nothing exciting, a few small features or changes AI & Microsoft 365 European Commission "shifts" investigation of Microsoft/OpenAI partnership. Is Ken Starr in charge of this thing? Microsoft highlights new Copilot features coming to Microsoft 365 in July Copilot in OneNote can now recognize handwritten text. It's 2002 all over again! Pixel 9 family will promote unique "Google AI" features Brave introduces a BYOM plan for its web browser Thanks to AI, Google Translate now supports 110 new languages Xbox Xbox Cloud Gaming Fire Sticks it to Amazon Another two weeks of Xbox Game Pass Forza Horizon 4 (from 2018) to be delisted December 15. Why? Tips and Picks Tip of the week: Get $10 off Tony Redmond's Office 365 for IT Pros 11th Edition App pick of the week: Docs in Proton Drive RunAs Radio this week: NGINX as a Service with Buu Lam Brown liquor pick of the week: Jack Daniels Old No. 7 Hosts: Leo Laporte, Paul Thurrott, and Richard Campbell Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/windows-weekly Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit Check out Paul's blog at thurrott.com The Windows Weekly theme music is courtesy of Carl Franklin. Sponsors: canary.tools/twit - use code: TWIT cachefly.com/twit

More application platform pieces make your life better! While at Build in Seattle, Richard sat down with Buu Lam of F5 to discuss F5's latest offering, NGINX as a Service in Azure. Buu discussed how F5's products have evolved to run in the cloud, not just on their hardware. While you could run them as virtual machines or containers, providing them as services in Azure is better. You purchase the service in the marketplace and as part of your Azure billing. The conversation digs into the advantages of the services model in terms of updating and instrumentation, as well as reducing the complexity of your infrastructure as code. LinksNGINXKubernetesBIG-IP NextF5 Distributed CloudNGINX as a Service on AzureDevCentral at F5Recorded May 21, 2024

It's only been one week, but it's really been 14 years, and Paul is calling: Microsoft and Qualcomm have finally made Windows 11 on Arm both viable and desirable. Nothing is perfect, but this platform is pretty incredible. Some notes from the past week: Mission Accomplished As a reminder, Paul finally got the Yoga Slim 7x last week and updated on app compatibility, hardware compatibility, gaming, and in-box AI experiences in time for WW - only found one non-working app, Google Drive. Then... More app and game compatibility testing. Since then, played a lot more DOOM (2016), ran into one issue that's surely WOA-related (note beta graphics driver, though) Video encoding performance: Snapdragon X vs Snapdragon X vs Core Ultra 9 H-series vs MacBook Air M3 Initial thoughts on battery life and then More thoughts on battery life. The Yoga Slim 9x and Surface Laptop both get about 10 hours of real-world battery life (so far), compared to 15 hours for the MacBook Air 15-inch M3. Hardware compatibility update: Only one of my devices doesn't work, the Focusrite. Surface Laptop 7 first impressions and second impressions HP Elitebook Ultra first impressions Windows 11 After skipping Week D last Tuesday, Microsoft belatedly delivers a Week D preview update for Windows 11 version 24H2 No new features, so next Patch Tuesday will be light for 24H2 22H2 and 23H2 got a big Week D update last Tuesday, so Patch Tuesday will be meaningful As of July's Patch Tuesday, 22H2, 23H2, and 24H2 will all provide the same basic feature set Canary, Dev, Beta (last Friday): nothing exciting, a few small features or changes AI & Microsoft 365 European Commission "shifts" investigation of Microsoft/OpenAI partnership. Is Ken Starr in charge of this thing? Microsoft highlights new Copilot features coming to Microsoft 365 in July Copilot in OneNote can now recognize handwritten text. It's 2002 all over again! Pixel 9 family will promote unique "Google AI" features Brave introduces a BYOM plan for its web browser Thanks to AI, Google Translate now supports 110 new languages Xbox Xbox Cloud Gaming Fire Sticks it to Amazon Another two weeks of Xbox Game Pass Forza Horizon 4 (from 2018) to be delisted December 15. Why? Tips and Picks Tip of the week: Get $10 off Tony Redmond's Office 365 for IT Pros 11th Edition App pick of the week: Docs in Proton Drive RunAs Radio this week: NGINX as a Service with Buu Lam Brown liquor pick of the week: Jack Daniels Old No. 7 Hosts: Leo Laporte, Paul Thurrott, and Richard Campbell Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/windows-weekly Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit Check out Paul's blog at thurrott.com The Windows Weekly theme music is courtesy of Carl Franklin. Sponsors: canary.tools/twit - use code: TWIT cachefly.com/twit

It's only been one week, but it's really been 14 years, and Paul is calling: Microsoft and Qualcomm have finally made Windows 11 on Arm both viable and desirable. Nothing is perfect, but this platform is pretty incredible. Some notes from the past week: Mission Accomplished As a reminder, Paul finally got the Yoga Slim 7x last week and updated on app compatibility, hardware compatibility, gaming, and in-box AI experiences in time for WW - only found one non-working app, Google Drive. Then... More app and game compatibility testing. Since then, played a lot more DOOM (2016), ran into one issue that's surely WOA-related (note beta graphics driver, though) Video encoding performance: Snapdragon X vs Snapdragon X vs Core Ultra 9 H-series vs MacBook Air M3 Initial thoughts on battery life and then More thoughts on battery life. The Yoga Slim 9x and Surface Laptop both get about 10 hours of real-world battery life (so far), compared to 15 hours for the MacBook Air 15-inch M3. Hardware compatibility update: Only one of my devices doesn't work, the Focusrite. Surface Laptop 7 first impressions and second impressions HP Elitebook Ultra first impressions Windows 11 After skipping Week D last Tuesday, Microsoft belatedly delivers a Week D preview update for Windows 11 version 24H2 No new features, so next Patch Tuesday will be light for 24H2 22H2 and 23H2 got a big Week D update last Tuesday, so Patch Tuesday will be meaningful As of July's Patch Tuesday, 22H2, 23H2, and 24H2 will all provide the same basic feature set Canary, Dev, Beta (last Friday): nothing exciting, a few small features or changes AI & Microsoft 365 European Commission "shifts" investigation of Microsoft/OpenAI partnership. Is Ken Starr in charge of this thing? Microsoft highlights new Copilot features coming to Microsoft 365 in July Copilot in OneNote can now recognize handwritten text. It's 2002 all over again! Pixel 9 family will promote unique "Google AI" features Brave introduces a BYOM plan for its web browser Thanks to AI, Google Translate now supports 110 new languages Xbox Xbox Cloud Gaming Fire Sticks it to Amazon Another two weeks of Xbox Game Pass Forza Horizon 4 (from 2018) to be delisted December 15. Why? Tips and Picks Tip of the week: Get $10 off Tony Redmond's Office 365 for IT Pros 11th Edition App pick of the week: Docs in Proton Drive RunAs Radio this week: NGINX as a Service with Buu Lam Brown liquor pick of the week: Jack Daniels Old No. 7 Hosts: Leo Laporte, Paul Thurrott, and Richard Campbell Download or subscribe to this show at https://twit.tv/shows/windows-weekly Get episodes ad-free with Club TWiT at https://twit.tv/clubtwit Check out Paul's blog at thurrott.com The Windows Weekly theme music is courtesy of Carl Franklin. Sponsors: canary.tools/twit - use code: TWIT cachefly.com/twit

本期节目我们请到了继续和 Yuchen 聊聊 Cloudflare，以及他主导并开源网络框架 Pingora Pingora 是一个使用 Rust 开发的框架，可以让开发人员在上面实现自定义服务器。Pingora 的开发是基于 Cloudflare 多年的经验和需求，他们发现在代理中需要大量的业务逻辑代码而不是配置，并且用 Lua 或编写配置也不理想。此外，我们讨论了 Pingora 的开发过程中涉及的技术决策和挑战，以及 Cloudflare 的文化和招聘情况。 嘉宾 Yuchen Wu 主播 laixintao NadeshikoManju laike9m 时间点 00:03 Cloudflare Pingora 项目开发背后的故事与原因 04:53 以 Lua 嵌入 Nginx 的 openresty 为基础的强大编程工具 08:47 Lua 的特点和局限性分析 13:03 Nginx 的 C 开发和 Lua 维护的困难性及 ARM 上的问题 16:10 Indrax 架构的问题和需要解决的挑战 22:25 大家决定用 Rust 语言重新开发的决策过程 24:47 对于使用 Rust 语言开发的经验和公司中的实践 27:07 Rust 语言的开发和 API 设计 30:32 流量迁移和切换效果评估 32:53 开发速度改进和问题处理的讨论 37:15 Pingora 框架的开源故事及其 API 设计和扩展性 40:36 关于开源的讨论和决策过程，Rust 语言的优势以及担忧的原因 44:22 Nginx 的发展历程以及与 F5 的关系变动 46:06 Pingora 开源项目及其童话般的发展故事 50:18 Cloudflare 文化和招聘情况讨论 53:40 Cloudflare：科技领域无可匹敌的压倒性存在 链接 Pingora Nginx OpenResty Lua F5 Completes Acquisition of NGINX

Infrastructure engineer and Kubernetes ingress-Nginx maintainer James Strong joins host Robert Blumen to discuss the Kubernetes networking layer. The discussion draws on content from Strong's book on the topic and covers a lot of ground, including: the Kubernetes network's use of different IP ranges than the host network; overlay network with its own IP ranges compared to using expanded portions of the host network ranges; adding routes with kernel extension points; programming kernel extension points with IP tables compared to eBPF; how routes are updated as the host network gains or loses nodes, the use of the Linux network namespace to isolate each pod; routing between pods on the same host; routing between pods across the host network; the container-network interface (CNI); the CNI ecosystem; differences between CNIs; choosing a CNI when running on a public cloud service; the Kubernetes service abstraction with a cluster-wide IP address; monitoring and telemetry of the Kubernetes network; and troubleshooting the Kubernetes network. Brought to you by IEEE Software magazine and IEEE Computer Society.

Join us at our first in-person conference on June 25 all about AI Quality: https://www.aiqualityconference.com/ ⁠Peter Guagenti⁠ is an accomplished business builder and entrepreneur with expertise in strategy, product development, marketing, sales, and operations. Peter has helped build multiple successful start-ups to exits, fueling high growth in each company along the way. He brings a broad perspective, deep problem-solving skills, the ability to drive innovation amongst teams, and a proven ability to convert strategy into action -- all backed up by a history of delivering results. Huge thank you to AWS for sponsoring this episode. AWS - https://aws.amazon.com/ MLOps podcast #222 with Peter Guagenti, President & CMO of Tabnine - What Business Stakeholders Want to See from the ML Teams. // Abstract Peter Guagenti shares his expertise in the tech industry, discussing topics from managing large-scale tech legacy applications and data experimentation to the evolution of the Internet. He returns to his history of building and transforming businesses, such as his work in the early 90s for People magazine's website and his current involvement in AI development for software companies. Guagenti discusses the use of predictive modeling in customer management and emphasizes the importance of re-architecting solutions to fit customer needs. He also delves deeper into the AI tools' effectiveness in software development and the value of maintaining privacy. Guagenti sees a bright future in AI democratization and shares his company's development of AI coding assistants. Discussing successful entrepreneurship, Guagenti highlights balancing technology and go-to-market strategies and the value of failing fast. // Bio Peter Guagenti is the President and Chief Marketing Officer at Tabnine. Guagenti is an accomplished business leader and entrepreneur with expertise in strategy, product development, marketing, sales, and operations. He most recently served as chief marketing officer at Cockroach Labs, and he previously held leadership positions at SingleStore, NGINX (acquired by F5 Networks), and Acquia (acquired by Vista Equity Partners). Guagenti also serves as an advisor to a number of visionary AI and data companies including DragonflyDB, Memgraph, and Treeverse. // MLOps Jobs board https://mlops.pallet.xyz/jobs // MLOps Swag/Merch https://mlops-community.myshopify.com/ // Related Links AI Quality in Person Conference: https://www.aiqualityconference.com/ Measuring the impact of GitHub Copilot Survey: https://resources.github.com/learn/pathways/copilot/essentials/measuring-the-impact-of-github-copilot/ AWS Trainium and Inferentia: https://aws.amazon.com/machine-learning/trainium/ https://aws.amazon.com/machine-learning/inferentia/AI coding assistants: 8 features enterprises should seek: https://www.infoworld.com/article/3694900/ai-coding-assistants-8-features-enterprises-should-seek.htmlCareers at Tabnine: https://www.tabnine.com/careers --------------- ✌️Connect With Us ✌️ ------------- Join our slack community: https://go.mlops.community/slack Follow us on Twitter: @mlopscommunity Sign up for the next meetup: https://go.mlops.community/register Catch all episodes, blogs, newsletters, and more: https://mlops.community/ Connect with Demetrios on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dpbrinkm/ Connect with Peter on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peterguagenti/

Get my backend course https://backend.win Cloudflare has announced they are opening sources Pingora as a networking framework! Big news, let us discuss  0:00 Intro 0:30 Reasons why Cloudflare built Pingora? 3:00 It is a framework!  7:30 What in Pingora? 11:50 Security in Pingora 13:45 Multi-threading in Pingora 21:00 Customization vs Configuration 25:00 Summary ⁠https://blog.cloudflare.com/pingora-open-source/?utm_campaign=cf_blog&utm_content=20240228&utm_medium=organic_social&utm_source=twitter⁠

In this episode of the Laravel Podcast, we are diving into the highlights of Laracon EU including the unveiling of Laravel 11 and the introduction of Laravel Reverb. Taylor Otwell shares insights on the streamlined application structure and new features in Laravel 11. We also discuss the launch of Laravel Herd for Windows and Herd Pro, offering power user features for local development, and provide some exciting updates about the upcoming Laracon US.Taylor Otwell's Twitter - https://twitter.com/taylorotwellMatt Stauffer's Twitter - https://twitter.com/stauffermattLaravel Twitter - https://twitter.com/laravelphpLaravel Website - https://laravel.com/Tighten Website - https://tighten.com/Laracon EU Photo Gallery Tweet - https://x.com/LaraconEU/status/1755957896209113444?s=20Laravel Reverb - https://laravel.com/docs/master/reverbLaravel 11 - https://laravel.com/docs/master/releasesThiery Laverdure's Project - https://github.com/tlaverdure/laravel-echo-serverPusher - https://pusher.com/Ably - https://ably.com/Laravel Herd - https://herd.laravel.com/Adam Wathan Twitter - https://twitter.com/adamwathanJess Archer Twitter - https://twitter.com/jessarchercodesLuke Twitter Downing Twitter - https://twitter.com/lukedowning19Daniel Coulbourne Twitter - https://twitter.com/DCoulbourneJoe Dixon Twitter - https://twitter.com/_joedixonPhilo Hermans Twitter - https://twitter.com/Philo01?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5EauthorLaracon US - https://laracon.us/Laracon CFP Talk Submission Form - https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdlyTDvqeKNB3r-wVNmDBlE23oHKEL4m8lzL5nci0YPH_5WYA/viewform-----Editing and transcription sponsored by Tighten.

We chat about VMware's rug pull with Bret, aka Raid Owl, and then get into Unraid's big changes and more. Special Guest: Raid Owl.

This week, we discuss open source forks, what's going on at OpenAI and checkin on the IRS Direct File initiative. Plus, plenty of thoughts on taking your annual Code of Conduct Training. Watch the YouTube Live Recording of Episode (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAwXvnb53iY) 455 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAwXvnb53iY) Runner-up Titles I live my life one iCal screen at a time We always have sparklers Meta-parenting Everyone is always tired Cheaper version of Red Hat This week in “Do we need to be angry?” All we get is wingdings. I'm in a Socialist mood this week Pies shot out of my eyes and stuff Those dingalings bought my boat Dingalings of the mind Rundown CIQ Offers Long-Term Support for Rocky Linux 8.6, 8.8 and 9.2 Images Through AWS Marketplace (https://ciq.com/press-release/ciq-offers-long-term-support-for-rocky-linux-8-6-8-8-and-9-2-images-through-aws-marketplace/) Will CIQ's new support program alienate the community (https://medium.com/@gordon.messmer/will-ciqs-new-support-program-alienate-the-community-it-built-on-an-objection-to-subscriber-only-fb58ea6a810e) NGINX fork (https://narrativ.es/@janl/111935559549855751)? freenginx.org (http://freenginx.org/en/) Struggling database company MariaDB could be taken private in $37M deal (https://techcrunch.com/2024/02/19/struggling-database-company-mariadb-could-be-taken-private-in-a-37m-deal/) Tofu (https://opentofu.org) So Where's That New OpenAI Board? (https://www.theinformation.com/articles/so-wheres-that-new-openai-board?utm_source=ti_app&rc=giqjaz) The IRS has all our tax data. Why doesn't its new website use it? (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/02/04/direct-file-irs-taxes/) Relevant to your Interests Apple on course to break all Web Apps in EU within 20 days - Open Web Advocacy (https://open-web-advocacy.org/blog/apple-on-course-to-break-all-web-apps-in-eu-within-20-days/) Bringing Competition to Walled Gardens - Open Web Advocacy (https://open-web-advocacy.org/walled-gardens-report/#apple-has-effectively-banned-all-third-party-browsers) Introducing the Column Explorer: a bird's-eye view of your data (https://motherduck.com/blog/introducing-column-explorer/?utm_medium=email&_hsmi=294232392&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-8vobC3nom9chsGc_Y8KM9pO75KKvrGTtL7uS-sfcNQ1sNd8ThaMnP5KsfbSUWCWW2KOjlPpa3AwC4ToYbaCmYOAMva0rvKIZ2jkB461YKJX2TLQtg&utm_content=294233055&utm_source=hs_email) Apple TV+ Became HBO Before HBO Could Become Netflix (https://spyglass.org/its-not-tv-its-apple-tv-plus/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email) Sora: Creating video from text (https://openai.com/sora) Sustainability, a surprisingly successful KPI: GreenOps survey results - ClimateAction.Tech (https://climateaction.tech/blog/sustainability-kpi-greenops-survey-results/) Slack AI has arrived (https://slack.com/intl/en-gb/blog/news/slack-ai-has-arrived) What's new and cool? - Adam Jacob (https://youtu.be/gAYMg6LNEMs?si=9PRiK1BBHaBGSypy) Apple is reportedly working on AI updates to Spotlight and Xcode (https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/15/24074455/apple-generative-ai-xcode-spotlight-testing) Apple Readies AI Tool to Rival Microsoft's GitHub Copilot (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-02-15/apple-s-ai-plans-github-copilot-rival-for-developers-tool-for-testing-apps) VMs on Kubernetes with Kubevirt session at Kubecon (https://kccnceu2024.sched.com/event/1YhIE/sponsored-keynote-a-cloud-native-overture-to-enterprise-end-user-adoption-fabian-deutsch-senior-engineering-manager-red-hat-michael-hanulec-vice-president-and-technology-fellow-goldman-sachs) Air Canada must honor refund policy invented by airline's chatbot (https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/02/air-canada-must-honor-refund-policy-invented-by-airlines-chatbot/?comments=1&comments-page=1) Microsoft 'retires' Azure IoT Central in platform rethink (https://www.theregister.com/2024/02/15/microsoft_retires_azure_iot_central/) The big design freak-out: A generation of design leaders grapple with their future (https://www.fastcompany.com/91027996/the-big-design-freak-out-a-generation-of-design-leaders-grapple-with-their-future) Most of the contents of the Xerox PARC team's work were tossed into a dumpster (https://x.com/DynamicWebPaige/status/1759071289401368635?s=20) 1Password expands its endpoint security offerings with Kolide acquisition (https://techcrunch.com/2024/02/20/1password-expands-its-endpoint-security-offerings-with-kolide-acquisition/) Microsoft Will Use Intel to Manufacture Home-Grown Processor (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-02-21/microsoft-will-use-intel-to-manufacture-home-grown-processor) In a First, Apple Captures Top 7 Spots in Global List of Top 10 Best-selling Smartphones - Counterpoint (https://www.counterpointresearch.com/insights/apple-captures-top-7-spots-in-global-top-10-best-selling-smartphones/) Google Is Giving Away Some of the A.I. That Powers Chatbots (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/21/technology/google-open-source-ai.html) Apple Shuffles Leadership of Team Responsible for Audio Products (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-02-20/apple-shuffles-leadership-of-team-responsible-for-audio-products?srnd=premium) Signal now lets you keep your phone number private with the launch of usernames (https://techcrunch.com/2024/02/20/signal-now-lets-you-keep-your-phone-number-private-with-the-launch-of-usernames/) How Google is killing independent sites like ours (https://housefresh.com/david-vs-digital-goliaths/) VMware takes a swing at Nutanix, Red Hat with VM converter (https://www.theregister.com/2024/02/21/vmware_kvm_converter/) (https://narrativ.es/@janl/111935559549855751)## Nonsense An ordinary squirt of canned air achieves supersonic speeds - engineer spots telltale shock diamonds (https://www.tomshardware.com/desktops/pc-building/an-ordinary-squirt-of-canned-air-achieves-supersonic-speeds-engineer-spots-telltale-shock-diamonds) Conferences SCaLE 21x/DevOpsDays LA, March 14th (https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/21x)– (https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/21x)17th, 2024 (https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/21x) — Coté speaking (https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/21x/presentations/we-fear-change), sponsorship slots available. 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The US Department of Justice is at it again with a new team for Operation Dying Ember. Sounds spooky, right? This time it was to undertake a secret court order to remove malware from Ubiquiti devices infected by Fancy Bear. The devices in question had default administration passwords as well as remote admin access on the public Internet. The DOJ reinfected the routers with the original malware used to compromise them in the first place and then used that compromise to remove remote access and clean up the secondary payload that had been installed to turn them into a potential botnet. The DOJ said it would then notify users to do a factory reset and install the latest firmware as well as changing their admin password. There's a lot to unpack here! This and more on the Gestalt IT Rundown hosted by Tom Hollingsworth and guest Max Mortillaro. Hosts: Tom Hollingsworth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/networkingnerd/ Max Mortillaro: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxmortillaro/ Follow Gestalt IT Website: https://www.GestaltIT.com/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/GestaltIT LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/Gestalt-IT Tags: #Rundown, #Security, #AI, #DataCenters, #GenAI, #Data, @NGINX, @LockbitTeam, @GestaltIT, @NetworkingNerd, @MaxMortillaro

DSL is back, but it's bigger! There's a CUDA implementation for AMD, The Linux Topology code is getting cleaned up, and there's a bit of a tussle over who's the first to ship KDE 6. Nginx forks over a CVE, AMD has new chips, and Asahi is beating Apple on OpenGL. For tips there's zypper for package management, cmp for comparing files, UFW for firewall simplicity, and a quick primer on how Wine handles serial ports! Catch the show notes at https://bit.ly/49z3PDs and enjoy the show! Host: Jonathan Bennett Co-Hosts: Rob Campbell, Ken McDonald, and Jeff Massie Want access to the video version and exclusive features? Become a member of Club TWiT today! https://twit.tv/clubtwit Club TWiT members can discuss this episode and leave feedback in the Club TWiT Discord.

Nginx is forked, Broadcom/VMware kills ESXi, dedup is finally fixed in ZFS, using multiple network interfaces on a NAS, and more.   Plugs Support us on patreon and get an ad-free RSS feed with early episodes sometimes   News announcing freenginx.org Broadcom-owned VMware kills the free version of ESXi virtualization software OpenZFS Native Encryption Use […]

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Scott and Wes talk about the benefits of owning your own PaaS (platform as a service), the main alternatives in the space, and ways to make passion projects more financially viable. Show Notes 00:00 Welcome to Syntax! 01:12 Brought to you by Sentry.io. 01:56 What is a PaaS? NGINX 04:21 Challenges with payment structures. Render 07:02 What is Kubernetes? Kubernetes 07:51 What are the differences between Kubernetes and Docker? Docker Swarm 09:15 Reasons to own your own PaaS. Nelify Bluehost 15:05 “Pokémon or Web Service” Original 150 Pokémon Characters 16:49 The players and their pros and cons. 18:51 Where can you host these services? 19:47 Kubero. Kubero 21:50 Coolify. Coolify Coolify pricing 28:15 Caprover. Caprover 29:03 Dokku. Dokku Shokku Ledokku Atlas Nixpacks 32:53 Piku. Piku 33:24 Cuber. Cuber 34:13 Acorn. Acorn Coolify creator, Andras Bacsai on X 36:44 The challenges of hosting your own PaaS. 38:46 Jekyll ran on a PC under a desk. Jekyll 39:36 Sometimes less is, in fact, more. 40:09 Final thoughts. 45:03 Scott got Bun to work on Coolify. 51:01 Sick Picks + Shameless Plugs. Sick Picks Wes: GripStic Chip Bag Sealer Amazon, GripStic Chip Bag Sealer Aliexpress Scott: Caseta Diva Smart Dimmer Shameless Plugs Wes: Syntax YouTube Hit us up on Socials! Syntax: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Wes: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Scott:X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Randy: X Instagram YouTube Threads

Deploying Nextcloud the Nix way promises a paradise of reproducibility and simplicity. But is it just a painful trek through configuration hell? We built the dream Nextcloud using Nix and faced reality. Special Guest: Alex Kretzschmar.

In this New Stack Makers podcast, Mike Stefaniak, senior product manager at NGINX and Kate Osborn, a software engineer at NGINX discusses challenges associated with network ingress in Kubernetes clusters and introduces the Kubernetes Gateway API as a solution. Stefaniak highlights the issues that arise when multiple teams work on the same ingress, leading to friction and incidents. NGINX has also introduced the NGINX Gateway Fabric, implementing the Kubernetes Gateway API as an alternative to network ingress. The Kubernetes Gateway API, proposed four years ago and recently made generally available, offers advantages such as extensibility. It allows referencing policies with custom resource definitions for better validation, avoiding the need for annotations. Each resource has an associated role, enabling clean application of role-based access control policies for enhanced security.While network ingress is prevalent and mature, the Kubernetes Gateway API is expected to find adoption in greenfield projects initially. It has the potential to unite North-South and East-West traffic, offering a role-oriented API for comprehensive control over cluster traffic. The article encourages exploring the Kubernetes Gateway API and engaging with the community to contribute to its development.Learn more from The New Stack about NGINX and the open source Kubernetes Gateway API:Kubernetes API Gateway 1.0 Goes Live, as Maintainers Plan for The Future API Gateway, Ingress Controller or Service Mesh: When to Use What and Why Ingress Controllers or the Kubernetes Gateway API? Which is Right for You?  Join our community of newsletter subscribers to stay on top of the news and at the top of your game.    

In episode 40 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc and Benjie speak with open source pioneer Dave McAllister. Dave shares stories and lessons from his 40-year career in tech including working for DEC, NASA, Adobe, Red Hat, Splunk, and NGINX. Additionally, they discuss Linux's rise to popularity in the early days of open source, SGI's contribution to modern cinematic effects, predictions around AI, and the overlap of open source and LLMs.

In episode 40 of The Kubelist Podcast, Marc and Benjie speak with open source pioneer Dave McAllister. Dave shares stories and lessons from his 40-year career in tech including working for DEC, NASA, Adobe, Red Hat, Splunk, and NGINX. Additionally, they discuss Linux's rise to popularity in the early days of open source, SGI's contribution to modern cinematic effects, predictions around AI, and the overlap of open source and LLMs.

Today I am speaking with Kevin Jones, Developer Relations Engineer at Edge & Node, a core development team actively contributing to The Graph. Although Kevin is a fresh addition to the Edge & Node team, his presence has already been felt significantly through his engagement in hackathons and leadership of key initiatives.In this engaging conversation, Kevin unveils his captivating career journey. He takes us from his early studies in graphic design through a stint in retail, working in sales at Best Buy – a chapter that included an adventure living in Hawaii. We then explore his trajectory to becoming a well-regarded thought leader within the Ethereum ecosystem, a journey that included some time at the industry-leading NGINX.Kevin also shares the pivotal moments when he encountered The Graph and made the transition to full-time work in web3. He provides insights into his role at Edge & Node and dives into some of the transformative initiatives he is driving. Throughout, Kevin offers valuable insights into open source projects, Scaffold-ETH, BuildersDAO – a new DAO within The Graph ecosystem – and the sources of his drive and determination. Show Notes and TranscriptsThe GRTiQ Podcast takes listeners inside web3 and The Graph (GRT) by interviewing members of the ecosystem.  Please help support this project and build the community by subscribing and leaving a review.Twitter: GRT_iQwww.GRTiQ.com 

4 Months of BSD, Self Hosted Calendar and address Book, Ban scanners IPs from OpenSMTP logs, Self-hosted git page, Bastille template example, Restrict nginx Access by Geographical Location on FreeBSD, and more. NOTES This episode of BSDNow is brought to you by Tarsnap (https://www.tarsnap.com/bsdnow) and the BSDNow Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/bsdnow) Headlines 4 Months of BSD (https://danterobinson.dev/BSD/4MonthsofBSD) Self Hosted Calendar and address Book (https://www.tumfatig.net/2023/self-hosted-calendar-and-addressbook-services-on-openbsd/) News Roundup Ban scanners IPs from OpenSMTP logs (https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2023-06-22-opensmtpd-block-attempts.html) Self-hosted git page with stagit (featuring ed, the standard editor) (https://sebastiano.tronto.net/blog/2022-11-23-git-host/) Bastille template example (https://bastillebsd.org/blog/2022/01/03/bastille-template-examples-adguardhome/) Nginx: How to Restrict Access by Geographical Location on FreeBSD (https://herrbischoff.com/2021/05/nginx-how-to-restrict-access-by-geographical-location-on-freebsd/) Beastie Bits Tarsnap This weeks episode of BSDNow was sponsored by our friends at Tarsnap, the only secure online backup you can trust your data to. Even paranoids need backups. Feedback/Questions Chris - ARM (https://github.com/BSDNow/bsdnow.tv/blob/master/episodes/520/feedback/Chris%20-%20arm.md) Matthew - Groups (https://github.com/BSDNow/bsdnow.tv/blob/master/episodes/520/feedback/matthew%20-%20groups.md) Send questions, comments, show ideas/topics, or stories you want mentioned on the show to feedback@bsdnow.tv (mailto:feedback@bsdnow.tv) ***

Linux and FreeBSD Firewalls Part 1, Why Netflix Chose NGINX as the Heart of Its CDN, Protect your web servers against PHP shells and malwares, Installing and running Gitlab howto, and more NOTES This episode of BSDNow is brought to you by Tarsnap (https://www.tarsnap.com/bsdnow) and the BSDNow Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/bsdnow) Headlines Linux vs. FreeBSD : Linux and FreeBSD Firewalls – The Ultimate Guide : Part 1 (https://klarasystems.com/articles/freebsd-linux-and-freebsd-firewalls/) Why Netflix Chose NGINX as the Heart of Its CDN (https://www.nginx.com/blog/why-netflix-chose-nginx-as-the-heart-of-its-cdn/) News Roundup FreeBSD: Protect your web servers against PHP shells and malwares (https://ozgurkazancci.com/freebsd-protect-your-web-server-against-php-shells-and-malwares/) HowTo: Installing and running Gitlab (https://forums.FreeBSD.org/threads/howto-installing-and-running-gitlab.89436/) Beastie Bits • [World built in 36 hours on a Pentium 4!](https://www.reddit.com/r/freebsd/comments/13undl9/world_built_in_36_hours_on_a_pentium_4/) • [Fart init](https://x61.sh/log/2023/05/23052023153621-fart-init.html](https://x61.sh/log/2023/05/23052023153621-fart-init.html) • [Organized Freebies](https://mwl.io/archives/22832) • [OpenSMTPD 7.3.0p0 released](http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20230617111340) • [shutdown/reboot now require membership of group _shutdown](http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20230620064255) • [Where does my computer get the time from?](https://dotat.at/@/2023-05-26-whence-time.html) Tarsnap This weeks episode of BSDNow was sponsored by our friends at Tarsnap, the only secure online backup you can trust your data to. Even paranoids need backups. *** Feedback/Questions sam - fav episodes (https://github.com/BSDNow/bsdnow.tv/blob/master/episodes/515/feedback/sam%20-%20fav%20episodes.md) Send questions, comments, show ideas/topics, or stories you want mentioned on the show to feedback@bsdnow.tv (mailto:feedback@bsdnow.tv) ***

In this episode of Critical Thinking - Bug Bounty Podcast, we're back with Joel, fresh (haha) off of back-to-back live hack events in London and Seoul. We start with his recap of the events, and the different vibes of each LHE, then we dive into the technical thick of it, and talk web browsers, XSS vectors, new tools, CVSS 4, and much more than we can fit in this character limit. Just trust us when we say you don't want to miss it!Follow us on twitter at: @ctbbpodcastWe're new to this podcasting thing, so feel free to send us any feedback here: info@criticalthinkingpodcast.ioShoutout to YTCracker for the awesome intro music!------ Links ------Follow your hosts Rhynorater & Teknogeek on twitter:https://twitter.com/0xteknogeekhttps://twitter.com/rhynorater______Episode 26 links:https://linke.to/Episode26Notes______Timestamps:(00:00:00) Introduction(00:04:10) LHE Vibes(00:07:45) "Hunting for NGINX alias traversals in the wild"(00:12:30) Various payouts in bug bounty programs(00:16:05) New XSS vectors and popovers(00:24:15) The "magical math element" in Firefox(00:27:15) LiveOverflow's research on HTML parsing quirks(00:32:10) Mr. Tux Racer, Woocommerce, and WordPress(00:40:00) Changes in the CVSS 4 draft spec(00:45:00) TomNomNom's new tool Jsluise(00:51:15) JavaScript's import function(00:55:30) Gareth Hayes' book "JavaScript for Hackers"(01:02:24) Injecting JavaScript variables(01:09:15) Prototype pollution(01:13:15) DOM clobbering(01:18:10) Exploiting HTML injection using meta and base tags(01:25:00) CSS Games(01:28:00) Base tags

In a wonderful blog, Kyle explores the pains he faced managing a Postgres instance for a startup he works for and how enabling partitioning sigintfically created wait events causing the backend and subsequently NGINX to through 500 errors. We discuss this in this video/podcast https://www.kylehailey.com/post/postgres-partition-pains-lockmanager-waits

Jean Yang, CEO of Akita Software, joins Corey on Screaming in the Cloud to discuss how she went from academia to tech founder, and what her company is doing to improve monitoring and observability. Jean explains why Akita is different from other observability & monitoring solutions, and how it bridges the gap from what people know they should be doing and what they actually do in practice. Corey and Jean explore why the monitoring and observability space has been so broken, and why it's important for people to see monitoring as a chore and not a hobby. Jean also reveals how she took a leap from being an academic professor to founding a tech start-up. About JeanJean Yang is the founder and CEO of Akita Software, providing the fastest time-to-value for API monitoring. Jean was previously a tenure-track professor in Computer Science at Carnegie Mellon University.Links Referenced: Akita Software: https://www.akitasoftware.com/ Aki the dog chatbot: https://www.akitasoftware.com/blog-posts/we-built-an-exceedingly-polite-ai-dog-that-answers-questions-about-your-apis Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeanqasaur TranscriptAnnouncer: Hello, and welcome to Screaming in the Cloud with your host, Chief Cloud Economist at The Duckbill Group, Corey Quinn. This weekly show features conversations with people doing interesting work in the world of cloud, thoughtful commentary on the state of the technical world, and ridiculous titles for which Corey refuses to apologize. This is Screaming in the Cloud.Corey: Welcome to Screaming in the Cloud. I'm Corey Quinn. My guest today is someone whose company has… well, let's just say that it has piqued my interest. Jean Yang is the CEO of Akita Software and not only is it named after a breed of dog, which frankly, Amazon service namers could take a lot of lessons from, but it also tends to approach observability slash monitoring from a perspective of solving the problem rather than preaching a new orthodoxy. Jean, thank you for joining me.Jean: Thank you for having me. Very excited.Corey: In the world that we tend to operate in, there are so many different observability tools, and as best I can determine observability is hipster monitoring. Well, if we call it monitoring, we can't charge you quite as much money for it. And whenever you go into any environment of significant scale, we pretty quickly discover that, “What monitoring tool are you using?” The answer is, “Here are the 15 that we use.” Then you talk to other monitoring and observability companies and ask them which ones of those they've replace, and the answer becomes, “We're number 16.” Which is less compelling of a pitch than you might expect. What does Akita do? Where do you folks start and stop?Jean: We want to be—at Akita—your first stop for monitoring and we want to be all of the monitoring, you need up to a certain level. And here's the motivation. So, we've talked with hundreds, if not thousands, of software teams over the last few years and what we found is there is such a gap between best practice, what people think everybody else is doing, what people are talking about at conferences, and what's actually happening in software teams. And so, what software teams have told me over and over again, is, hey, we either don't actually use very many tools at all, or we use 15 tools in name, but it's you know, one [laugh] one person on the team set this one up, it's monitoring one of our endpoints, we don't even know which one sometimes. Who knows what the thresholds are really supposed to be. We got too many alerts one day, we turned it off.But there's very much a gap between what people are saying they're supposed to do, what people in their heads say they're going to do next quarter or the quarter after that and what's really happening in practice. And what we saw was teams are falling more and more into monitoring debt. And so effectively, their customers are becoming their monitoring and it's getting harder to catch up. And so, what Akita does is we're the fastest, easiest way for teams to quickly see what endpoints you have in your system—so that's API endpoints—what's slow and what's throwing errors. And you might wonder, okay, wait, wait, wait, Jean. Monitoring is usually about, like, logs, metrics, and traces. I'm not used to hearing about API—like, what do APIs have to do with any of it?And my view is, look, we want the most simple form of what might be wrong with your system, we want a developer to be able to get started without having to change any code, make any annotations, drop in any libraries. APIs are something you can watch from the outside of a system. And when it comes to which alerts actually matter, where do you want errors to be alerts, where do you want thresholds to really matter, my view is, look, the places where your system interfaces with another system are probably where you want to start if you've really gotten nothing. And so, Akita view is, we're going to start from the outside in on this monitoring. We're turning a lot of the views on monitoring and observability on its head and we just want to be the tool that you reach for if you've got nothing, it's middle of the night, you have alerts on some endpoint, and you don't want to spend a few hours or weeks setting up some other tool. And we also want to be able to grow with you up until you need that power tool that many of the existing solutions out there are today.Corey: It feels like monitoring is very often one of those reactive things. I come from the infrastructure world, so you start off with, “What do you use for monitoring?” “Oh, we wait till the help desk calls us and users are reporting a problem.” Okay, that gets you somewhere. And then it becomes oh, well, what was wrong that time? The drive filled up. Okay, so we're going to build checks in that tell us when the drives are filling up.And you wind up trying to enumerate all of the different badness. And as a result, if you leave that to its logical conclusion, one of the stories that I heard out of MySpace once upon a time—which dates me somewhat—is that you would have a shift, so there were three shifts working around the clock, and each one would open about 5000 tickets, give or take, for the monitoring alerts that wound up firing off throughout their infrastructure. At that point, it's almost, why bother? Because no one is going to be around to triage these things; no one is going to see any of the signal buried and all of that noise. When you talk about doing this for an API perspective, are you running synthetics against those APIs? Are you shimming them in order to see what's passing through them? What's the implementation side look like?Jean: Yeah, that's a great question. So, we're using a technology called BPF, Berkeley Packet Filter. The more trendy, buzzy term is EBPF—Corey: The EBPF. Oh yes.Jean: Yeah, Extended Berkeley Packet Filter. But here's the secret, we only use the BPF part. It's actually a little easier for users to install. The E part is, you know, fancy and often finicky. But um—Corey: SEBPF then: Shortened Extended BPF. Why not?Jean: [laugh]. Yeah. And what BPF allows us to do is passively watch traffic from the outside of a system. So, think of it as you're sending API calls across the network. We're just watching that network. We're not in the path of that traffic. So, we're not intercepting the traffic in any way, we're not creating any additional overhead for the traffic, we're not slowing it down in any way. We're just sitting on the side, we're watching all of it, and then we're taking that and shipping an obfuscated version off to our cloud, and then we're giving you analytics on that.Corey: One of the things that strikes me as being… I guess, a common trope is there are a bunch of observability solutions out there that offer this sort of insight into what's going on within an environment, but it's, “Step one: instrument with some SDK or some agent across everything. Do an entire deploy across your fleet.” Which yeah, people are not generally going to be in a hurry to sign up for. And further, you also said a minute ago that the idea being that someone could start using this in the middle of the night in the middle of an outage, which tells me that it's not, “Step one: get the infrastructure sparkling. Step two: do a global deploy to everything.” How do you go about doing that? What is the level of embeddedness into the environment?Jean: Yeah, that's a great question. So, the reason we chose BPF is I wanted a completely black-box solution. So, no SDKs, no code annotations. I wanted people to be able to change a config file and have our solution apply to anything that's on the system. So, you could add routes, you could do all kinds of things. I wanted there to be no additional work on the part of the developer when that happened.And so, we're not the only solution that uses BPF or EBPF. There's many other solutions that say, “Hey, just drop us in. We'll let you do anything you want.” The big difference is what happens with the traffic once it gets processed. So, what EBPF or BPF gives you is it watches everything about your system. And so, you can imagine that's a lot of different events. That's a lot of things.If you're trying to fix an incident in the middle of the night and someone just dumps on you 1000 pages of logs, like, what are you going to do with that? And so, our view is, the more interesting and important and valuable thing to do here is not make it so that you just have the ability to watch everything about your system but to make it so that developers don't have to sift through thousands of events just to figure out what went wrong. So, we've spent years building algorithms to automatically analyze these API events to figure out, first of all, what are your endpoints? Because it's one thing to turn on something like Wireshark and just say, okay, here are the thousand API calls, I saw—ten thousand—but it's another thing to say, “Hey, 500 of those were actually the same endpoint and 300 of those had errors.” That's quite a hard problem.And before us, it turns out that there was no other solution that even did that to the level of being able to compile together, “Here are all the slow calls to an endpoint,” or, “Here are all of the erroneous calls to an endpoint.” That was blood, sweat, and tears of developers in the night before. And so, that's the first major thing we do. And then metrics on top of that. So, today we have what's slow, what's throwing errors. People have asked us for other things like show me what happened after I deployed. Show me what's going on this week versus last week. But now that we have this data set, you can imagine there's all kinds of questions we can now start answering much more quickly on top of it.Corey: One thing that strikes me about your site is that when I go to akitasoftware.com, you've got a shout-out section at the top. And because I've been doing this long enough where I find that, yeah, you work at a company; you're going to say all kinds of wonderful, amazing aspirational things about it, and basically because I have deep-seated personality disorders, I will make fun of those things as my default reflexive reaction. But something that AWS, for example, does very well is when they announce something ridiculous on stage at re:Invent, I make fun of it, as is normal, but then they have a customer come up and say, “And here's the expensive, painful problem that they solved for us.”And that's where I shut up and start listening. Because it's a very different story to get someone else, who is presumably not being paid, to get on stage and say, “Yeah, this solved a sophisticated, painful problem.” Your shout-outs page has not just a laundry list of people saying great things about it, but there are former folks who have been on the show here, people I know and trust: Scott Johnson over at Docker, Gergely Orosz over at The Pragmatic Engineer, and other folks who have been luminaries in the space for a while. These are not the sort of people that are going to say, “Oh, sure. Why not? Oh, you're going to send me a $50 gift card in a Twitter DM? Sure I'll say nice things,” like it's one of those respond to a viral tweet spamming something nonsense. These are people who have gravitas. It's clear that there's something you're building that is resonating.Jean: Yeah. And for that, they found us. Everyone that I've tried to bribe to say good things about us actually [laugh] refused.Corey: Oh, yeah. As it turns out that it's one of those things where people are more expensive than you might think. It's like, “What, you want me to sell my credibility down the road?” Doesn't work super well. But there's something like the unsolicited testimonials that come out of, this is amazing, once people start kicking the tires on it.You're currently in open beta. So, I guess my big question for you is, whenever you see a product that says, “Oh, yeah, we solve everything cloud, on-prem, on physical instances, on virtual machines, on Docker, on serverless, everything across the board. It's awesome.” I have some skepticism on that. What is your ideal application architecture that Akita works best on? And what sort of things are you a complete nonstarter for?Jean: Yeah, I'll start with a couple of things we work well on. So, container platforms. We work relatively well. So, that's your Fargate, that's your Azure Web Apps. But that, you know, things running, we call them container platforms. Kubernetes is also something that a lot of our users have picked us up and had success with us on. I will say our Kubernetes deploy is not as smooth as we would like. We say, you know, you can install us—Corey: Well, that is Kubernetes, yes.Jean: [laugh]. Yeah.Corey: Nothing in Kubernetes is as smooth as we would like.Jean: Yeah, so we're actually rolling out Kubernetes injection support in the next couple of weeks. So, those are the two that people have had the most success on. If you're running on bare metal or on a VM, we work, but I will say that you have to know your way around a little bit to get that to work. What we don't work on is any Platform as a Service. So, like, a Heroku, a Lambda, a Render at the moment. So those, we haven't found a way to passively listen to the network traffic in a good way right now.And we also work best for unencrypted HTTP REST traffic. So, if you have encrypted traffic, it's not a non-starter, but you need to fall into a couple of categories. You either need to be using Kubernetes, you can run Akita as a sidecar, or you're using Nginx. And so, that's something we're still expanding support on. And we do not support GraphQL or GRPC at the moment.Corey: That's okay. Neither do I. It does seem these days that unencrypted HTTP API calls are increasingly becoming something of a relic, where folks are treating those as anti-patterns to be stamped out ruthlessly. Are you still seeing significant deployments of unencrypted APIs?Jean: Yeah. [laugh]. So, Corey—Corey: That is the reality, yes.Jean: That's a really good question, Corey, because in the beginning, we weren't sure what we wanted to focus on. And I'm not saying the whole deployment is unencrypted HTTP, but there is a place to install Akita to watch where it's unencrypted HTTP. And so, this is what I mean by if you have encrypted traffic, but you can install Akita as a Kubernetes sidecar, we can still watch that. But there was a big question when we started: should this be GraphQL, GRPC, or should it be REST? And I read the “State of the API Report” from Postman for you know, five years, and I still keep up with it.And every year, it seemed that not only was REST, remaining dominant, it was actually growing. So, [laugh] this was shocking to me as well because people said, well, “We have this more structured stuff, now. There's GRPC, there's GraphQL.” But it seems that for the added complexity, people weren't necessarily seeing the value and so, REST continues to dominate. And I've actually even seen a decline in GraphQL since we first started doing this. So, I'm fully on board the REST wagon. And in terms of encrypted versus unencrypted, I would also like to see more encryption as well. That's why we're working on burning down the long tail of support for that.Corey: Yeah, it's one of those challenges. Whenever you're deploying something relatively new, there's this idea that it should be forward-looking and you, on some level, want to modernize your architecture and infrastructure to keep up with it. An AWS integration story I see that's like that these days is, “Oh, yeah, generate an IAM credential set and just upload those into our system.” Yeah, the modern way of doing that is role assumption: to find a role and here's how to configure it so that it can do what we need to do. So, whenever you start seeing things that are, “Oh, yeah, just turn the security clock back in time a little bit,” that's always a little bit of an eyebrow raise.I can also definitely empathize with the joys of dealing with anything that even touches networking in a Lambda context. Building the Lambda extension for Tailscale was one of the last big dives I made into that area and I still have nightmares as a result. It does a lot of interesting things right up until you step off the golden path. And then suddenly, everything becomes yaks all the way down, in desperate need of shaving.Jean: Yeah, Lambda does something we want to handle on our roadmap, but I… believe we need a bigger team before [laugh] we are ready to tackle that.Corey: Yeah, we're going to need a bigger boat is very often [laugh] the story people have when they start looking at entire new architectural paradigms. So, you end up talking about working in containerized environments. Do you find that most of your deployments are living in cloud environments, in private data centers, some people call them private cloud. Where does the bulk of your user applications tend to live these days?Jean: The bulk of our user applications are in the cloud. So, we're targeting small to medium businesses to start. The reason being, we want to give our users a magical deployment experience. So, right now, a lot of our users are deploying in under 30 minutes. That's in no small part due to automations that we've built.And so, we initially made the strategic decision to focus on places where we get the most visibility. And so—where one, we get the most visibility, and two, we are ready for that level of scale. So, we found that, you know, for a large business, we've run inside some of their production environments and there are API calls that we don't yet handle well or it's just such a large number of calls, we're not doing the inference as well and our algorithms don't work as well. And so, we've made the decision to start small, build our way up, and start in places where we can just aggressively iterate because we can see everything that's going on. And so, we've stayed away, for instance, from any on-prem deployments for that reason because then we can't see everything that's going on. And so, smaller companies that are okay with us watching pretty much everything they're doing has been where we started. And now we're moving up into the medium-sized businesses.Corey: The challenge that I guess I'm still trying to wrap my head around is, I think that it takes someone with a particularly rosy set of glasses on to look at the current state of monitoring and observability and say that it's not profoundly broken in a whole bunch of ways. Now, where it all falls apart, Tower of Babelesque, is that there doesn't seem to be consensus on where exactly it's broken. Where do you see, I guess, this coming apart at the seams?Jean: I agree, it's broken. And so, if I tap into my background, which is I was a programming languages person in my very recently, previous life, programming languages people like to say the problem and the solution is all lies in abstraction. And so, computing is all about building abstractions on top of what you have now so that you don't have to deal with so many details and you got to think at a higher level; you're free of the shackles of so many low-level details. What I see is that today, monitoring and observability is a sort of abstraction nightmare. People have just taken it as gospel that you need to live at the lowest level of abstraction possible the same way that people truly believe that assembly code was the way everybody was going to program forevermore back, you know, 50 years ago.So today, what's happening is that when people think monitoring, they think logs, not what's wrong with my system, what do I need to pay attention to? They think, “I have to log everything, I have to consume all those logs, we're just operating at the level of logs.” And that's not wrong because there haven't been any tools that have given people any help above the level of logs. Although that's not entirely correct, you know? There's also events and there's also traces, but I wouldn't say that's actually lifting the level of [laugh] abstraction very much either.And so, people today are thinking about monitoring and observability as this full control, like, I'm driving my, like, race car, completely manual transmission, I want to feel everything. And not everyone wants to or needs to do that to get to where they need to go. And so, my question is, how far are can we lift the level of abstraction for monitoring and observability? I don't believe that other people are really asking this question because most of the other players in the space, they're asking what else can we monitor? Where else can we monitor it? How much faster can we do it? Or how much more detail can we give the people who really want the power tools?But the people entering the buyer's market with needs, they're not people—you don't have, like, you know, hordes of people who need more powerful tools. You have people who don't know about the systems are dealing with and they want easier. They want to figure out if there's anything wrong with our system so they can get off work and do other things with their lives.Corey: That, I think, is probably the thing that gets overlooked the most. It's people don't tend to log into their monitoring systems very often. They don't want to. When they do, it's always out of hours, middle of the night, and they're confronted with a whole bunch of upsell dialogs of, “Hey, it's been a while. You want to go on a tour of the new interface?”Meanwhile, anything with half a brain can see there's a giant spike on the graph or telemetry stop coming in.Jean: Yeah.Corey: It's way outside of normal business hours where this person is and maybe they're not going to be in the best mood to engage with your brand.Jean: Yeah. Right now, I think a lot of the problem is, you're either working with monitoring because you're desperate, you're in the middle of an active incident, or you're a monitoring fanatic. And there isn't a lot in between. So, there's a tweet that someone in my network tweeted me that I really liked which is, “Monitoring should be a chore, not a hobby.” And right now, it's either a hobby or an urgent necessity [laugh].And when it gets to the point—so you know, if we think about doing dishes this way, it would be as if, like, only, like, the dish fanatics did dishes, or, like, you will just have piles of dishes, like, all over the place and raccoons and no dishes left, and then you're, like, “Ah, time to do a thing.” But there should be something in between where there's a defined set of things that people can do on a regular basis to keep up with what they're doing. It should be accessible to everyone on the team, not just a couple of people who are true fanatics. No offense to the people out there, I love you guys, you're the ones who are really helping us build our tool the most, but you know, there's got to be a world in which more people are able to do the things you do.Corey: That's part of the challenge is bringing a lot of the fire down from Mount Olympus to the rest of humanity, where at some level, Prometheus was a great name from that—Jean: Yep [laugh].Corey: Just from that perspective because you basically need to be at that level of insight. I think Kubernetes suffers from the same overall problem where it is not reasonably responsible to run a Kubernetes production cluster without some people who really know what's going on. That's rapidly changing, which is for the better, because most companies are not going to be able to afford a multimillion-dollar team of operators who know the ins and outs of these incredibly complex systems. It has to become more accessible and simpler. And we have an entire near century at this point of watching abstractions get more and more and more complex and then collapsing down in this particular field. And I think that we're overdue for that correction in a lot of the modern infrastructure, tooling, and approaches that we take.Jean: I agree. It hasn't happened yet in monitoring and observability. It's happened in coding, it's happened in infrastructure, it's happened in APIs, but all of that has made it so that it's easier to get into monitoring debt. And it just hasn't happened yet for anything that's more reactive and more about understanding what the system is that you have.Corey: You mentioned specifically that your background was in programming languages. That's understating it slightly. You were a tenure-track professor of computer science at Carnegie Mellon before entering industry. How tied to what your area of academic speciality was, is what you're now at Akita?Jean: That's a great question and there are two answers to that. The first is very not tied. If it were tied, I would have stayed in my very cushy, highly [laugh] competitive job that I worked for years to get, to do stuff there. And so like, what we're doing now is comes out of thousands of conversations with developers and desire to build on the ground tools that I'm—there's some technically interesting parts to it, for sure. I think that our technical innovation is our moat, but is it at the level of publishable papers? Publishable papers are a very narrow thing; I wouldn't be able to say yes to that question.On the other hand, everything that I was trained to do was about identifying a problem and coming up with an out-of-the-box solution for it. And especially in programming languages research, it's really about abstractions. It's really about, you know, taking a set of patterns that you see of problems people have, coming up with the right abstractions to solve that problem, evaluating your solution, and then, you know, prototyping that out and building on top of it. And so, in that case, you know, we identified, hey, people have a huge gap when it comes to monitoring and observability. I framed it as an abstraction problem, how can we lift it up?We saw APIs as this is a great level to build a new level of solution. And our solution, it's innovative, but it also solves the problem. And to me, that's the most important thing. Our solution didn't need to be innovative. If you're operating in an academic setting, it's really about… producing a new idea. It doesn't actually [laugh]—I like to believe that all endeavors really have one main goal, and in academia, the main goal is producing something new. And to me, building a product is about solving a problem and our main endeavor was really to solve a real problem here.Corey: I think that it is, in many cases, useful when we start seeing a lot of, I guess, overflow back and forth between academia and industry, in both directions. I think that it is doing academia a disservice when you start looking at it purely as pure theory, and oh yeah, they don't deal with any of the vocational stuff. Conversely, I think the idea that industry doesn't have anything to learn from academia is dramatically misunderstanding the way the world works. The idea of watching some of that ebb and flow and crossover between them is neat to see.Jean: Yeah, I agree. I think there's a lot of academics I super respect and admire who have done great things that are useful in industry. And it's really about, I think, what you want your main goal to be at the time. Is it, do you want to be optimizing for new ideas or contributing, like, a full solution to a problem at the time? But it's there's a lot of overlap in the skills you need.Corey: One last topic I'd like to dive into before we call it an episode is that there's an awful lot of hype around a variety of different things. And right now in this moment, AI seems to be one of those areas that is getting an awful lot of attention. It's clear too there's something of value there—unlike blockchain, which has struggled to identify anything that was not fraud as a value proposition for the last decade-and-a-half—but it's clear that AI is offering value already. You have recently, as of this recording, released an AI chatbot, which, okay, great. But what piques my interest is one, it's a dog, which… germane to my interest, by all means, and two, it is marketed as, and I quote, “Exceedingly polite.”Jean: [laugh].Corey: Manners are important. Tell me about this pupper.Jean: Yeah, this dog came really out of four or five days of one of our engineers experimenting with ChatGPT. So, for a little bit of background, I'll just say that I have been excited about the this latest wave of AI since the beginning. So, I think at the very beginning, a lot of dev tools people were skeptical of GitHub Copilot; there was a lot of controversy around GitHub Copilot. I was very early. And I think all the Copilot people retweeted me because I was just their earlies—like, one of their earliest fans. I was like, “This is the coolest thing I've seen.”I've actually spent the decade before making fun of AI-based [laugh] programming. But there were two things about GitHub Copilot that made my jaw drop. And that's related to your question. So, for a little bit of background, I did my PhD in a group focused on program synthesis. So, it was really about, how can we automatically generate programs from a variety of means? From constraints—Corey: Like copying and pasting off a Stack Overflow, or—Jean: Well, the—I mean, that actually one of the projects that my group was literally applying machine-learning to terabytes of other example programs to generate new programs. So, it was very similar to GitHub Copilot before GitHub Copilot. It was synthesizing API calls from analyzing terabytes of other API calls. And the thing that I had always been uncomfortable with these machine-learning approaches in my group was, they were in the compiler loop. So, it was, you know, you wrote some code, the compiler did some AI, and then it spit back out some code that, you know, like you just ran.And so, that never sat well with me. I always said, “Well, I don't really see how this is going to be practical,” because people can't just run random code that you basically got off the internet. And so, what really excited me about GitHub Copilot was the fact that it was in the editor loop. I was like, “Oh, my God.”Corey: It had the context. It was right there. You didn't have to go tabbing to something else.Jean: Exactly.Corey: Oh, yeah. I'm in the same boat. I think it is basically—I've seen the future unfolding before my eyes.Jean: Yeah. Was the autocomplete thing. And to me, that was the missing piece. Because in your editor, you always read your code before you go off and—you know, like, you read your code, whoever code reviews your code reads your code. There's always at least, you know, two pairs of eyes, at least theoretically, reading your code.So, that was one thing that was jaw-dropping to me. That was the revelation of Copilot. And then the other thing was that it was marketed not as, “We write your code for you,” but the whole Copilot marketing was that, you know, it kind of helps you with boilerplate. And to me, I had been obsessed with this idea of how can you help developers write less boilerplate for years. And so, this AI-supported boilerplate copiloting was very exciting to me.And I saw that is very much the beginning of a new era, where, yes, there's tons of data on how we should be programming. I mean, all of Akita is based on the fact that we should be mining all the data we have about how your system and your code is operating to help you do stuff better. And so, to me, you know, Copilot is very much in that same philosophy. But our AI chatbot is, you know, just a next step along this progression. Because for us, you know, we collect all this data about your API behavior; we have been using non-AI methods to analyze this data and show it to you.And what ChatGPT allowed us to do in less than a week was analyze this data using very powerful large-language models and I have this conversational interface that both gives you the opportunity to check over and follow up on the question so that what you're spitting out—so what we're spitting out as Aki the dog doesn't have to be a hundred percent correct. But to me, the fact that Aki is exceedingly polite and kind of goofy—he, you know, randomly woofs and says a lot of things about how he's a dog—it's the right level of seriousness so that it's not messaging, hey, this is the end all, be all, the way, you know, the compiler loop never sat well with me because I just felt deeply uncomfortable that an AI was having that level of authority in a system, but a friendly dog that shows up and tells you some things that you can ask some additional questions to, no one's going to take him that seriously. But if he says something useful, you're going to listen. And so, I was really excited about the way this was set up. Because I mean, I believe that AI should be a collaborator and it should be a collaborator that you never take with full authority. And so, the chat and the politeness covered those two parts for me both.Corey: Yeah, on some level, I can't shake the feeling that it's still very early days there for Chat-Gipity—yes, that's how I pronounce it—and it's brethren as far as redefining, on some level, what's possible. I think that it's in many cases being overhyped, but it's solving an awful lot of the… the boilerplate, the stuff that is challenging. A question I have, though, is that, as a former professor, a concern that I have is when students are using this, it's less to do with the fact that they're not—they're taking shortcuts that weren't available to me and wanting to make them suffer, but rather, it's, on some level, if you use it to write your English papers, for example. Okay, great, it gets the boring essay you don't want to write out of the way, but the reason you write those things is it teaches you to form a story, to tell a narrative, to structure an argument, and I think that letting the computer do those things, on some level, has the potential to weaken us across the board. Where do you stand on it, given that you see both sides of that particular snake?Jean: So, here's a devil's advocate sort of response to it, is that maybe the writing [laugh] was never the important part. And it's, as you say, telling the story was the important part. And so, what better way to distill that out than the prompt engineering piece of it? Because if you knew that you could always get someone to flesh out your story for you, then it really comes down to, you know, I want to tell a story with these five main points. And in some way, you could see this as a playing field leveler.You know, I think that as a—English is actually not my first language. I spent a lot of time editing my parents writing for their work when I was a kid. And something I always felt really strongly about was not discriminating against people because they can't form sentences or they don't have the right idioms. And I actually spent a lot of time proofreading my friends' emails when I was in grad school for the non-native English speakers. And so, one way you could see this as, look, people who are not insiders now are on the same playing field. They just have to be clear thinkers.Corey: That is a fascinating take. I think I'm going to have to—I'm going to have to ruminate on that one. I really want to thank you for taking the time to speak with me today about what you're up to. If people want to learn more, where's the best place for them to find you?Jean: Well, I'm always on Twitter, still [laugh]. I'm @jeanqasaur—J-E-A-N-Q-A-S-A-U-R. And there's a chat dialog on akitasoftware.com. I [laugh] personally oversee a lot of that chat, so if you ever want to find me, that is a place, you know, where all messages will get back to me somehow.Corey: And we will, of course, put a link to that into the [show notes 00:35:01]. Thank you so much for your time. I appreciate it.Jean: Thank you, Corey.Corey: Jean Yang, CEO at Akita Software. I'm Cloud Economist Corey Quinn, and this is Screaming in the Cloud. If you've enjoyed this podcast, please leave a five-star review on your podcast platform of choice, whereas if you've hated this podcast, please leave a five-star review on your podcast platform of choice, along with an angry insulting comment that you will then, of course, proceed to copy to the other 17 podcast tools that you use, just like you do your observability monitoring suite.Corey: If your AWS bill keeps rising and your blood pressure is doing the same, then you need The Duckbill Group. We help companies fix their AWS bill by making it smaller and less horrifying. 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AB Periasamy, Co-Founder and CEO of MinIO, joins Corey on Screaming in the Cloud to discuss what it means to be truly open source and the current and future state of multi-cloud. AB explains how MinIO was born from the idea that the world was going to produce a massive amount of data, and what it's been like to see that come true and continue to be the future outlook. AB and Corey explore why some companies are hesitant to move to cloud, and AB describes why he feels the move is inevitable regardless of cost. AB also reveals how he has helped create a truly free open-source software, and how his partnership with Amazon has been beneficial. About ABAB Periasamy is the co-founder and CEO of MinIO, an open source provider of high performance, object storage software. In addition to this role, AB is an active investor and advisor to a wide range of technology companies, from H2O.ai and Manetu where he serves on the board to advisor or investor roles with Humio, Isovalent, Starburst, Yugabyte, Tetrate, Postman, Storj, Procurify, and Helpshift. Successful exits include Gitter.im (Gitlab), Treasure Data (ARM) and Fastor (SMART).AB co-founded Gluster in 2005 to commoditize scalable storage systems. As CTO, he was the primary architect and strategist for the development of the Gluster file system, a pioneer in software defined storage. After the company was acquired by Red Hat in 2011, AB joined Red Hat's Office of the CTO. Prior to Gluster, AB was CTO of California Digital Corporation, where his work led to scaling of the commodity cluster computing to supercomputing class performance. His work there resulted in the development of Lawrence Livermore Laboratory's “Thunder” code, which, at the time was the second fastest in the world.  AB holds a Computer Science Engineering degree from Annamalai University, Tamil Nadu, India.AB is one of the leading proponents and thinkers on the subject of open source software - articulating the difference between the philosophy and business model. An active contributor to a number of open source projects, he is a board member of India's Free Software Foundation.Links Referenced: MinIO: https://min.io/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/abperiasamy LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/abperiasamy/ Email: mailto:ab@min.io TranscriptAnnouncer: Hello, and welcome to Screaming in the Cloud with your host, Chief Cloud Economist at The Duckbill Group, Corey Quinn. This weekly show features conversations with people doing interesting work in the world of cloud, thoughtful commentary on the state of the technical world, and ridiculous titles for which Corey refuses to apologize. This is Screaming in the Cloud.Corey: This episode is sponsored in part by our friends at Chronosphere. When it costs more money and time to observe your environment than it does to build it, there's a problem. With Chronosphere, you can shape and transform observability data based on need, context and utility. Learn how to only store the useful data you need to see in order to reduce costs and improve performance at chronosphere.io/corey-quinn. That's chronosphere.io/corey-quinn. And my thanks to them for sponsor ing my ridiculous nonsense. Corey: Welcome to Screaming in the Cloud. I'm Corey Quinn, and I have taken a somewhat strong stance over the years on the relative merits of multi-cloud, and when it makes sense and when it doesn't. And it's time for me to start modifying some of those. To have that conversation and several others as well, with me today on this promoted guest episode is AB Periasamy, CEO and co-founder of MinIO. AB, it's great to have you back.AB: Yes, it's wonderful to be here again, Corey.Corey: So, one thing that I want to start with is defining terms. Because when we talk about multi-cloud, there are—to my mind at least—smart ways to do it and ways that are frankly ignorant. The thing that I've never quite seen is, it's greenfield, day one. Time to build something. Let's make sure we can build and deploy it to every cloud provider we might ever want to use.And that is usually not the right path. Whereas different workloads in different providers, that starts to make a lot more sense. When you do mergers and acquisitions, as big companies tend to do in lieu of doing anything interesting, it seems like they find it oh, we're suddenly in multiple cloud providers, should we move this acquisition to a new cloud? No. No, you should not.One of the challenges, of course, is that there's a lot of differentiation between the baseline offerings that cloud providers have. MinIO is interesting in that it starts and stops with an object store that is mostly S3 API compatible. Have I nailed the basic premise of what it is you folks do?AB: Yeah, it's basically an object store. Amazon S3 versus us, it's actually—that's the comparable, right? Amazon S3 is a hosted cloud storage as a service, but underneath the underlying technology is called object-store. MinIO is a software and it's also open-source and it's the software that you can deploy on the cloud, deploy on the edge, deploy anywhere, and both Amazon S3 and MinIO are exactly S3 API compatible. It's a drop-in replacement. You can write applications on MinIO and take it to AWS S3, and do the reverse. Amazon made S3 API a standard inside AWS, we made S3 API standard across the whole cloud, all the cloud edge, everywhere, rest of the world.Corey: I want to clarify two points because otherwise I know I'm going to get nibbled to death by ducks on the internet. When you say open-source, it is actually open-source; you're AGPL, not source available, or, “We've decided now we're going to change our model for licensing because oh, some people are using this without paying us money,” as so many companies seem to fall into that trap. You are actually open-source and no one reasonable is going to be able to disagree with that definition.The other pedantic part of it is when something says that it's S3 compatible on an API basis, like, the question is always does that include the weird bugs that we wish it wouldn't have, or some of the more esoteric stuff that seems to be a constant source of innovation? To be clear, I don't think that you need to be particularly compatible with those very corner and vertex cases. For me, it's always been the basic CRUD operations: can you store an object? Can you give it back to me? Can you delete the thing? And maybe an update, although generally object stores tend to be atomic. How far do you go down that path of being, I guess, a faithful implementation of what the S3 API does, and at which point you decide that something is just, honestly, lunacy and you feel no need to wind up supporting that?AB: Yeah, the unfortunate part of it is we have to be very, very deep. It only takes one API to break. And it's not even, like, one API we did not implement; one API under a particular circumstance, right? Like even if you see, like, AWS SDK is, right, Java SDK, different versions of Java SDK will interpret the same API differently. And AWS S3 is an API, it's not a standard.And Amazon has published the REST specifications, API specs, but they are more like religious text. You can interpret it in many ways. Amazon's own SDK has interpreted, like, this in several ways, right? The only way to get it right is, like, you have to have a massive ecosystem around your application. And if one thing breaks—today, if I commit a code and it introduced a regression, I will immediately hear from a whole bunch of community what I broke.There's no certification process here. There is no industry consortium to control the standard, but then there is an accepted standard. Like, if the application works, they need works. And one way to get it right is, like, Amazon SDKs, all of those language SDKs, to be cleaner, simpler, but applications can even use MinIO SDK to talk to Amazon and Amazon SDK to talk to MinIO. Now, there is a clear, cooperative model.And I actually have tremendous respect for Amazon engineers. They have only been kind and meaningful, like, reasonable partnership. Like, if our community reports a bug that Amazon rolled out a new update in one of the region and the S3 API broke, they will actually go fix it. They will never argue, “Why are you using MinIO SDK?” Their engineers, they do everything by reason. That's the reason why they gained credibility.Corey: I think, on some level, that we can trust that the API is not going to meaningfully shift, just because so much has been built on top of it over the last 15, almost 16 years now that even slight changes require massive coordination. I remember there was a little bit of a kerfuffle when they announced that they were going to be disabling the BitTorrent endpoint in S3 and it was no longer going to be supported in new regions, and eventually they were turning it off. There were still people pushing back on that. I'm still annoyed by some of the documentation around the API that says that it may not return a legitimate error code when it errors with certain XML interpretations. It's… it's kind of become very much its own thing.AB: [unintelligible 00:06:22] a problem, like, we have seen, like, even stupid errors similar to that, right? Like, HTTP headers are supposed to be case insensitive, but then there are some language SDKs will send us in certain type of casing and they expect the case to be—the response to be same way. And that's not HTTP standard. If we have to accept that bug and respond in the same way, then we are asking a whole bunch of community to go fix that application. And Amazon's problem are our problems too. We have to carry that baggage.But some places where we actually take a hard stance is, like, Amazon introduced that initially, the bucket policies, like access control list, then finally came IAM, then we actually, for us, like, the best way to teach the community is make best practices the standard. The only way to do it. We have been, like, educating them that we actually implemented ACLs, but we removed it. So, the customers will no longer use it. The scale at which we are growing, if I keep it, then I can never force them to remove.So, we have been pedantic about, like, how, like, certain things that if it's a good advice, force them to do it. That approach has paid off, but the problem is still quite real. Amazon also admits that S3 API is no longer simple, but at least it's not like POSIX, right? POSIX is a rich set of API, but doesn't do useful things that we need to do. So, Amazon's APIs are built on top of simple primitive foundations that got the storage architecture correct, and then doing sophisticated functionalities on top of the simple primitives, these atomic RESTful APIs, you can finally do it right and you can take it to great lengths and still not break the storage system.So, I'm not so concerned. I think it's time for both of us to slow down and then make sure that the ease of operation and adoption is the goal, then trying to create an API Bible.Corey: Well, one differentiation that you have that frankly I wish S3 would wind up implementing is this idea of bucket quotas. I would give a lot in certain circumstances to be able to say that this S3 bucket should be able to hold five gigabytes of storage and no more. Like, you could fix a lot of free tier problems, for example, by doing something like that. But there's also the problem that you'll see in data centers where, okay, we've now filled up whatever storage system we're using. We need to either expand it at significant cost and it's going to take a while or it's time to go and maybe delete some of the stuff we don't necessarily need to keep in perpetuity.There is no moment of reckoning in traditional S3 in that sense because, oh, you can just always add one more gigabyte at 2.3 or however many cents it happens to be, and you wind up with an unbounded growth problem that you're never really forced to wrestle with. Because it's infinite storage. They can add drives faster than you can fill them in most cases. So, it's it just feels like there's an economic story, if nothing else, just from a governance control and make sure this doesn't run away from me, and alert me before we get into the multi-petabyte style of storage for my Hello World WordPress website.AB: Mm-hm. Yeah, so I always thought that Amazon did not do this—it's not just Amazon, the cloud players, right—they did not do this because they want—is good for their business; they want all the customers' data, like unrestricted growth of data. Certainly it is beneficial for their business, but there is an operational challenge. When you set quota—this is why we grudgingly introduced this feature. We did not have quotas and we didn't want to because Amazon S3 API doesn't talk about quota, but the enterprise community wanted this so badly.And eventually we [unintelligible 00:09:54] it and we gave. But there is one issue to be aware of, right? The problem with quota is that you as an object storage administrator, you set a quota, let's say this bucket, this application, I don't see more than 20TB; I'm going to set 100TB quota. And then you forget it. And then you think in six months, they will reach 20TB. The reality is, in six months they reach 100TB.And then when nobody expected—everybody has forgotten that there was a code a certain place—suddenly application start failing. And when it fails, it doesn't—even though the S3 API responds back saying that insufficient space, but then the application doesn't really pass that error all the way up. When applications fail, they fail in unpredictable ways. By the time the application developer realizes that it's actually object storage ran out of space, the lost time and it's a downtime. So, as long as they have proper observability—because I mean, I've will also asked observability, that it can alert you that you are only going to run out of space soon. If you have those system in place, then go for quota. If not, I would agree with the S3 API standard that is not about cost. It's about operational, unexpected accidents.Corey: Yeah, on some level, we wound up having to deal with the exact same problem with disk volumes, where my default for most things was, at 70%, I want to start getting pings on it and at 90%, I want to be woken up for it. So, for small volumes, you wind up with a runaway log or whatnot, you have a chance to catch it and whatnot, and for the giant multi-petabyte things, okay, well, why would you alert at 70% on that? Well, because procurement takes a while when we're talking about buying that much disk for that much money. It was a roughly good baseline for these things. The problem, of course, is when you have none of that, and well it got full so oops-a-doozy.On some level, I wonder if there's a story around soft quotas that just scream at you, but let you keep adding to it. But that turns into implementation details, and you can build something like that on top of any existing object store if you don't need the hard limit aspect.AB: Actually, that is the right way to do. That's what I would recommend customers to do. Even though there is hard quota, I will tell, don't use it, but use soft quota. And the soft quota, instead of even soft quota, you monitor them. On the cloud, at least you have some kind of restriction that the more you use, the more you pay; eventually the month end bills, it shows up.On MinIO, when it's deployed on these large data centers, that it's unrestricted access, quickly you can use a lot of space, no one knows what data to delete, and no one will tell you what data to delete. The way to do this is there has to be some kind of accountability.j, the way to do it is—actually [unintelligible 00:12:27] have some chargeback mechanism based on the bucket growth. And the business units have to pay for it, right? That IT doesn't run for free, right? IT has to have a budget and it has to be sponsored by the applications team.And you measure, instead of setting a hard limit, you actually charge them that based on the usage of your bucket, you're going to pay for it. And this is a observability problem. And you can call it soft quotas, but it hasn't been to trigger an alert in observability. It's observability problem. But it actually is interesting to hear that as soft quotas, which makes a lot of sense.Corey: It's one of those problems that I think people only figure out after they've experienced it once. And then they look like wizards from the future who, “Oh, yeah, you're going to run into a quota storage problem.” Yeah, we all find that out because the first time we smack into something and live to regret it. Now, we can talk a lot about the nuances and implementation and low level detail of this stuff, but let's zoom out of it. What are you folks up to these days? What is the bigger picture that you're seeing of object storage and the ecosystem?AB: Yeah. So, when we started, right, our idea was that world is going to produce incredible amount of data. In ten years from now, we are going to drown in data. We've been saying that today and it will be true. Every year, you say ten years from now and it will still be valid, right?That was the reason for us to play this game. And we saw that every one of these cloud players were incompatible with each other. It's like early Unix days, right? Like a bunch of operating systems, everything was incompatible and applications were beginning to adopt this new standard, but they were stuck. And then the cloud storage players, whatever they had, like, GCS can only run inside Google Cloud, S3 can only run inside AWS, and the cloud player's game was bring all the world's data into the cloud.And that actually requires enormous amount of bandwidth. And moving data into the cloud at that scale, if you look at the amount of data the world is producing, if the data is produced inside the cloud, it's a different game, but the data is produced everywhere else. MinIO's idea was that instead of introducing yet another API standard, Amazon got the architecture right and that's the right way to build large-scale infrastructure. If we stick to Amazon S3 API instead of introducing it another standard, [unintelligible 00:14:40] API, and then go after the world's data. When we started in 2014 November—it's really 2015, we started, it was laughable. People thought that there won't be a need for MinIO because the whole world will basically go to AWS S3 and they will be the world's data store. Amazon is capable of doing that; the race is not over, right?Corey: And it still couldn't be done now. The thing is that they would need to fundamentally rethink their, frankly, you serious data egress charges. The problem is not that it's expensive to store data in AWS; it's that it's expensive to store data and then move it anywhere else for analysis or use on something else. So, there are entire classes of workload that people should not consider the big three cloud providers as the place where that data should live because you're never getting it back.AB: Spot on, right? Even if network is free, right, Amazon makes, like, okay, zero egress-ingress charge, the data we're talking about, like, most of MinIO deployments, they start at petabytes. Like, one to ten petabyte, feels like 100 terabyte. For even if network is free, try moving a ten-petabyte infrastructure into the cloud. How are you going to move it?Even with FedEx and UPS giving you a lot of bandwidth in their trucks, it is not possible, right? I think the data will continue to be produced everywhere else. So, our bet was there we will be [unintelligible 00:15:56]—instead of you moving the data, you can run MinIO where there is data, and then the whole world will look like AWS's S3 compatible object store. We took a very different path. But now, when I say the same story that when what we started with day one, it is no longer laughable, right?People believe that yes, MinIO is there because our market footprint is now larger than Amazon S3. And as it goes to production, customers are now realizing it's basically growing inside a shadow IT and eventually businesses realize the bulk of their business-critical data is sitting on MinIO and that's how it's surfacing up. So now, what we are seeing, this year particularly, all of these customers are hugely concerned about cost optimization. And as part of the journey, there is also multi-cloud and hybrid-cloud initiatives. They want to make sure that their application can run on any cloud or on the same software can run on their colos like Equinix, or like bunch of, like, Digital Reality, anywhere.And MinIO's software, this is what we set out to do. MinIO can run anywhere inside the cloud, all the way to the edge, even on Raspberry Pi. It's now—whatever we started with is now has become reality; the timing is perfect for us.Corey: One of the challenges I've always had with the idea of building an application with the idea to run it anywhere is you can make explicit technology choices around that, and for example, object store is a great example because most places you go now will or can have an object store available for your use. But there seem to be implementation details that get lost. And for example, even load balancers wind up being implemented in different ways with different scaling times and whatnot in various environments. And past a certain point, it's okay, we're just going to have to run it ourselves on top of HAproxy or Nginx, or something like it, running in containers themselves; you're reinventing the wheel. Where is that boundary between, we're going to build this in a way that we can run anywhere and the reality that I keep running into, which is we tried to do that but we implicitly without realizing it built in a lot of assumptions that everything would look just like this environment that we started off in.AB: The good part is that if you look at the S3 API, every request has the site name, the endpoint, bucket name, the path, and the object name. Every request is completely self-contained. It's literally a HTTP call away. And this means that whether your application is running on Android, iOS, inside a browser, JavaScript engine, anywhere across the world, they don't really care whether the bucket is served from EU or us-east or us-west. It doesn't matter at all, so it actually allows you by API, you can build a globally unified data infrastructure, some buckets here, some buckets there.That's actually not the problem. The problem comes when you have multiple clouds. Different teams, like, part M&A, the part—like they—even if you don't do M&A, different teams, no two data engineer will would agree on the same software stack. Then where they will all end up with different cloud players and some is still running on old legacy environment.When you combine them, the problem is, like, let's take just the cloud, right? How do I even apply a policy, that access control policy, how do I establish unified identity? Because I want to know this application is the only one who is allowed to access this bucket. Can I have that same policy on Google Cloud or Azure, even though they are different teams? Like if that employer, that project, or that admin, if he or she leaves the job, how do I make sure that that's all protected?You want unified identity, you want unified access control policies. Where are the encryption key store? And then the load balancer itself, the load, its—load balancer is not the problem. But then unless you adopt S3 API as your standard, the definition of what a bucket is different from Microsoft to Google to Amazon.Corey: Yeah, the idea of an of the PUTS and retrieving of actual data is one thing, but then you have how do you manage it the control plane layer of the object store and how do you rationalize that? What are the naming conventions? How do you address it? I even ran into something similar somewhat recently when I was doing an experiment with one of the Amazon Snowball edge devices to move some data into S3 on a lark. And the thing shows up and presents itself on the local network as an S3 endpoint, but none of their tooling can accept a different endpoint built into the configuration files; you have to explicitly use it as an environment variable or as a parameter on every invocation of something that talks to it, which is incredibly annoying.I would give a lot for just to be able to say, oh, when you're talking in this profile, that's always going to be your S3 endpoint. Go. But no, of course not. Because that would make it easier to use something that wasn't them, so why would they ever be incentivized to bake that in?AB: Yeah. Snowball is an important element to move data, right? That's the UPS and FedEx way of moving data, but what I find customers doing is they actually use the tools that we built for MinIO because the Snowball appliance also looks like S3 API-compatible object store. And in fact, like, I've been told that, like, when you want to ship multiple Snowball appliances, they actually put MinIO to make it look like one unit because MinIO can erase your code objects across multiple Snowball appliances. And the MC tool, unlike AWS CLI, which is really meant for developers, like low-level calls, MC gives you unique [scoring 00:21:08] tools, like lscp, rsync-like tools, and it's easy to move and copy and migrate data. Actually, that's how people deal with it.Corey: Oh, God. I hadn't even considered the problem of having a fleet of Snowball edges here that you're trying to do a mass data migration on, which is basically how you move petabyte-scale data, is a whole bunch of parallelism. But having to figure that out on a case-by-case basis would be nightmarish. That's right, there is no good way to wind up doing that natively.AB: Yeah. In fact, Western Digital and a few other players, too, now the Western Digital created a Snowball-like appliance and they put MinIO on it. And they are actually working with some system integrators to help customers move lots of data. But Snowball-like functionality is important and more and more customers who need it.Corey: This episode is sponsored in part by Honeycomb. I'm not going to dance around the problem. Your. Engineers. Are. Burned. Out. They're tired from pagers waking them up at 2 am for something that could have waited until after their morning coffee. Ring Ring, Who's There? It's Nagios, the original call of duty! They're fed up with relying on two or three different “monitoring tools” that still require them to manually trudge through logs to decipher what might be wrong. Simply put, there's a better way. 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So, it started to increasingly feel, in a lot of ways, like Cloud is no longer so much a place that is somewhere else, but instead much more of an operating model for how you wind up addressing things.I'm wondering when the generation of prosumer networking equipment, for example, is going to say, “Oh, and send these logs over to what object store?” Because right now, it's still write a file and SFTP it somewhere else, at least the good ones; some of the crap ones still want old unencrypted FTP, which is neither here nor there. But I feel like it's coming back around again. Like, when do even home users wind up instead of where do you save this file to having the cloud abstraction, which hopefully, you'll never have to deal with an S3-style endpoint, but that can underpin an awful lot of things. It feels like it's coming back and that's cloud is the de facto way of thinking about things. Is that what you're seeing? Does that align with your belief on this?AB: I actually, fundamentally believe in the long run, right, applications will go SaaS, right? Like, if you remember the days that you used to install QuickBooks and ACT and stuff, like, on your data center, you used to run your own Exchange servers, like, those days are gone. I think these applications will become SaaS. But then the infrastructure building blocks for these SaaS, whether they are cloud or their own colo, I think that in the long run, it will be multi-cloud and colo all combined and all of them will look alike.But what I find from the customer's journey, the Old World and the New World is incompatible. When they shifted from bare metal to virtualization, they didn't have to rewrite their application. But this time, you have—it as a tectonic shift. Every single application, you have to rewrite. If you retrofit your application into the cloud, bad idea, right? It's going to cost you more and I would rather not do it.Even though cloud players are trying to make, like, the file and block, like, file system services [unintelligible 00:24:01] and stuff, they make it available ten times more expensive than object, but it's just to [integrate 00:24:07] some legacy applications, but it's still a bad idea to just move legacy applications there. But what I'm finding is that the cost, if you still run your infrastructure with enterprise IT mindset, you're out of luck. It's going to be super expensive and you're going to be left out modern infrastructure, because of the scale, it has to be treated as code. You have to run infrastructure with software engineers. And this cultural shift has to happen.And that's why cloud, in the long run, everyone will look like AWS and we always said that and it's now being becoming true. Like, Kubernetes and MinIO basically is leveling the ground everywhere. It's giving ECS and S3-like infrastructure inside AWS or outside AWS, everywhere. But what I find the challenging part is the cultural mindset. If they still have the old cultural mindset and if they want to adopt cloud, it's not going to work.You have to change the DNA, the culture, the mindset, everything. The best way to do it is go to the cloud-first. Adopt it, modernize your application, learn how to run and manage infrastructure, then ask economics question, the unit economics. Then you will find the answers yourself.Corey: On some level, that is the path forward. I feel like there's just a very long tail of systems that have been working and have been meeting the business objective. And well, we should go and refactor this because, I don't know, a couple of folks on a podcast said we should isn't the most compelling business case for doing a lot of it. It feels like these things sort of sit there until there is more upside than just cost-cutting to changing the way these things are built and run. That's the reason that people have been talking about getting off of mainframe since the '90s in some companies, and the mainframe is very much still there. It is so ingrained in the way that they do business, they have to rethink a lot of the architectural things that have sprung up around it.I'm not trying to shame anyone for the [laugh] state that their environment is in. I've never yet met a company that was super proud of its internal infrastructure. Everyone's always apologizing because it's a fire. But they think someone else has figured this out somewhere and it all runs perfectly. I don't think it exists.AB: What I am finding is that if you are running it the enterprise IT style, you are the one telling the application developers, here you go, you have this many VMs and then you have, like, a VMware license and, like, Jboss, like WebLogic, and like a SQL Server license, now you go build your application, you won't be able to do it. Because application developers talk about Kafka and Redis and like Kubernetes, they don't speak the same language. And that's when these developers go to the cloud and then finish their application, take it live from zero lines of code before it can procure infrastructure and provision it to these guys. The change that has to happen is how can you give what the developers want now that reverse journey is also starting. In the long run, everything will look alike, but what I'm finding is if you're running enterprise IT infrastructure, traditional infrastructure, they are ashamed of talking about it.But then you go to the cloud and then at scale, some parts of it, you want to move for—now you really know why you want to move. For economic reasons, like, particularly the data-intensive workloads becomes very expensive. And at that part, they go to a colo, but leave the applications on the cloud. So, it's the multi-cloud model, I think, is inevitable. The expensive pieces that where you can—if you are looking at yourself as hyperscaler and if your data is growing, if your business focus is data-centric business, parts of the data and data analytics, ML workloads will actually go out, if you're looking at unit economics. If all you are focused on productivity, stick to the cloud and you're still better off.Corey: I think that's a divide that gets lost sometimes. When people say, “Oh, we're going to move to the cloud to save money.” It's, “No you're not.” At a five-year time horizon, I would be astonished if that juice were worth the squeeze in almost any scenario. The reason you go for therefore is for a capability story when it's right for you.That also means that steady-state workloads that are well understood can often be run more economically in a place that is not the cloud. Everyone thinks for some reason that I tend to be its cloud or it's trash. No, I'm a big fan of doing things that are sensible and cloud is not the right answer for every workload under the sun. Conversely, when someone says, “Oh, I'm building a new e-commerce store,” or whatnot, “And I've decided cloud is not for me.” It's, “Ehh, you sure about that?”That sounds like you are smack-dab in the middle of the cloud use case. But all these things wind up acting as constraints and strategic objectives. And technology and single-vendor answers are rarely going to be a panacea the way that their sales teams say that they will.AB: Yeah. And I find, like, organizations that have SREs, DevOps, and software engineers running the infrastructure, they actually are ready to go multi-cloud or go to colo because they have the—exactly know. They have the containers and Kubernetes microservices expertise. If you are still on a traditional SAN, NAS, and VM architecture, go to cloud, rewrite your application.Corey: I think there's a misunderstanding in the ecosystem around what cloud repatriation actually looks like. Everyone claims it doesn't exist because there's basically no companies out there worth mentioning that are, “Yep, we've decided the cloud is terrible, we're taking everything out and we are going to data centers. The end.” In practice, it's individual workloads that do not make sense in the cloud. Sometimes just the back-of-the-envelope analysis means it's not going to work out, other times during proof of concepts, and other times, as things have hit a certain point of scale, we're in an individual workload being pulled back makes an awful lot of sense. But everything else is probably going to stay in the cloud and these companies don't want to wind up antagonizing the cloud providers by talking about it in public. But that model is very real.AB: Absolutely. Actually, what we are finding with the application side, like, parts of their overall ecosystem, right, within the company, they run on the cloud, but the data side, some of the examples, like, these are in the range of 100 to 500 petabytes. The 500-petabyte customer actually started at 500 petabytes and their plan is to go at exascale. And they are actually doing repatriation because for them, their customers, it's consumer-facing and it's extremely price sensitive, but when you're a consumer-facing, every dollar you spend counts. And if you don't do it at scale, it matters a lot, right? It will kill the business.Particularly last two years, the cost part became an important element in their infrastructure, they knew exactly what they want. They are thinking of themselves as hyperscalers. They get commodity—the same hardware, right, just a server with a bunch of [unintelligible 00:30:35] and network and put it on colo or even lease these boxes, they know what their demand is. Even at ten petabytes, the economics starts impacting. If you're processing it, the data side, we have several customers now moving to colo from cloud and this is the range we are talking about.They don't talk about it publicly because sometimes, like, you don't want to be anti-cloud, but I think for them, they're also not anti-cloud. They don't want to leave the cloud. The completely leaving the cloud, it's a different story. That's not the case. Applications stay there. Data lakes, data infrastructure, object store, particularly if it goes to a colo.Now, your applications from all the clouds can access this centralized—centralized, meaning that one object store you run on colo and the colos themselves have worldwide data centers. So, you can keep the data infrastructure in a colo, but applications can run on any cloud, some of them, surprisingly, that they have global customer base. And not all of them are cloud. Sometimes like some applications itself, if you ask what type of edge devices they are running, edge data centers, they said, it's a mix of everything. What really matters is not the infrastructure. Infrastructure in the end is CPU, network, and drive. It's a commodity. It's really the software stack, you want to make sure that it's containerized and easy to deploy, roll out updates, you have to learn the Facebook-Google style running SaaS business. That change is coming.Corey: It's a matter of time and it's a matter of inevitability. Now, nothing ever stays the same. Everything always inherently changes in the full sweep of things, but I'm pretty happy with where I see the industry going these days. I want to start seeing a little bit less centralization around one or two big companies, but I am confident that we're starting to see an awareness of doing these things for the right reason more broadly permeating.AB: Right. Like, the competition is always great for customers. They get to benefit from it. So, the decentralization is a path to bringing—like, commoditizing the infrastructure. I think the bigger picture for me, what I'm particularly happy is, for a long time we carried industry baggage in the infrastructure space.If no one wants to change, no one wants to rewrite application. As part of the equation, we carried the, like, POSIX baggage, like SAN and NAS. You can't even do [unintelligible 00:32:48] as a Service, NFS as a Service. It's too much of a baggage. All of that is getting thrown out. Like, the cloud players be helped the customers start with a clean slate. I think to me, that's the biggest advantage. And that now we have a clean slate, we can now go on a whole new evolution of the stack, keeping it simpler and everyone can benefit from this change.Corey: Before we wind up calling this an episode, I do have one last question for you. As I mentioned at the start, you're very much open-source, as in legitimate open-source, which means that anyone who wants to can grab an implementation and start running it. How do you, I guess make peace with the fact that the majority of your user base is not paying you? And I guess how do you get people to decide, “You know what? We like the cut of his jib. Let's give him some money.”AB: Mm-hm. Yeah, if I looked at it that way, right, I have both the [unintelligible 00:33:38], right, on the open-source side as well as the business. But I don't see them to be conflicting. If I run as a charity, right, like, I take donation. If you love the product, here is the donation box, then that doesn't work at all, right?I shouldn't take investor money and I shouldn't have a team because I have a job to pay their bills, too. But I actually find open-source to be incredibly beneficial. For me, it's about delivering value to the customer. If you pay me $5, I ought to make you feel $50 worth of value. The same software you would buy from a proprietary vendor, why would—if I'm a customer, same software equal in functionality, if its proprietary, I would actually prefer open-source and pay even more.But why are, really, customers paying me now and what's our view on open-source? I'm actually the free software guy. Free software and open-source are actually not exactly equal, right? We are the purest of the open-source community and we have strong views on what open-source means, right. That's why we call it free software. And free here means freedom, right? Free does not mean gratis, that free of cost. It's actually about freedom and I deeply care about it.For me it's a philosophy and it's a way of life. That's why I don't believe in open core and other models that holding—giving crippleware is not open-source, right? I give you some freedom but not all, right, like, it's it breaks the spirit. So, MinIO is a hundred percent open-source, but it's open-source for the open-source community. We did not take some community-developed code and then added commercial support on top.We built the product, we believed in open-source, we still believe and we will always believe. Because of that, we open-sourced our work. And it's open-source for the open-source community. And as you build applications that—like the AGPL license on the derivative works, they have to be compatible with AGPL because we are the creator. If you cannot open-source, you open-source your application derivative works, you can buy a commercial license from us. We are the creator, we can give you a dual license. That's how the business model works.That way, the open-source community completely benefits. And it's about the software freedom. There are customers, for them, open-source is good thing and they want to pay because it's open-source. There are some customers that they want to pay because they can't open-source their application and derivative works, so they pay. It's a happy medium; that way I actually find open-source to be incredibly beneficial.Open-source gave us that trust, like, more than adoption rate. It's not like free to download and use. More than that, the customers that matter, the community that matters because they can see the code and they can see everything we did, it's not because I said so, marketing and sales, you believe them, whatever they say. You download the product, experience it and fall in love with it, and then when it becomes an important part of your business, that's when they engage with us because they talk about license compatibility and data loss or a data breach, all that becomes important. Open-source isn't—I don't see that to be conflicting for business. It actually is incredibly helpful. And customers see that value in the end.Corey: I really want to thank you for being so generous with your time. If people want to learn more, where should they go?AB: I was on Twitter and now I think I'm spending more time on, maybe, LinkedIn. I think if they—they can send me a request and then we can chat. And I'm always, like, spending time with other entrepreneurs, architects, and engineers, sharing what I learned, what I know, and learning from them. There is also a [community open channel 00:37:04]. And just send me a mail at ab@min.io and I'm always interested in talking to our user base.Corey: And we will, of course, put links to that in the [show notes 00:37:12]. Thank you so much for your time. I appreciate it.AB: It's wonderful to be here.Corey: AB Periasamy, CEO and co-founder of MinIO. I'm Cloud Economist Corey Quinn and this has been a promoted guest episode of Screaming in the Cloud. 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