Through compelling interviews and fiery commentary, host Katie Phang builds on her decades-long experience as a trial attorney and legal analyst to deliver her unique and insightful perspective on the latest news, including high-profile legal cases, politics, culture, and more.
On the final episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': It's been 96 days of chaos as the Trump administration ramps up a full-scale assault on American liberties. Co-founder and CEO of The Seneca Project Tara Setmayer discusses how elected Democrats need to take on the administration. And amid Trump's unprecedented ineptitude, Americans are taking to the streets to express their outrage. MSNBC host Rachel Maddow discusses the most effective ways for the resistance to fight back. Plus, legendary actor and activist George Takei speaks on his experience at a U.S. internment camp and how the country is regressing on immigration policy. And a final message from Katie Phang.
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': An overnight Supreme Court decision has temporarily paused the deportation of Venezuelans under the wartime Alien Enemies Act. MSNBC legal analyst Joyce Vance breaks down the 7-2 decision. Plus, a new Gallup poll is revealing that faith in leadership has fallen to an all-time low of 25%. State Sen. Mallory McMorrow joins to share how she is fighting for the future of the Democratic party. And a U.S. citizen and attorney is pursuing legal action after a horrific experience at the Canadian border. Bachir Atallah joins to recount how he was detained by border agents for hours without reason. All that and more on ‘The Katie Phang Show'.
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': President Trump has unleashed financial chaos across the globe with consumer confidence tumbling for a fourth straight month in a row. Rep. Grace Meng reacts to the latest news that Trump has now exempted smartphones, computers, and other electronics from his tariffs. Plus, the SAVE Act has passed the House. Rep. Robert Garcia joins to break down why this Republican-led effort may disenfranchise millions of registered voters. Plus, the Trump administration has moved to cut off federal funding for Maine public schools due to a dispute over banning transgender student athletes from girls' sports. Activist Charlotte Clymer reacts to the major escalation. All that and more on ‘The Katie Phang Show'.
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': President Trump's tariffs have caused global economic turmoil as the Dow plummeted 2,200 points on Friday. Rep. Jimmy Gomez joins to discuss the damage being done for everyday Americans. Plus, Trump's executive orders are prompting swift judicial backlash. Democracy Docket's Marc Elias breaks down Trump's power grabs. All that and more on ‘The Katie Phang Show'.
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': Elon Musk and Donald Trump are taking aim at Social Security with office closures, cutbacks on phone services and new rules requiring in-person visits for some beneficiaries. Rep. Brendan Boyle joins to discuss the administration's overreach. Plus, outrage continues over the top Trump officials sharing classified military plans on a Signal group chat. Senior Director of the Center on Military and Political Power Bradley Bowman joins to discuss whether Americans are safe. All that and more on ‘The Katie Phang Show'.
On this week's episode of “The Katie Phang Show:” Democrats may have staved off a government shutdown, but at what cost? Vermont Rep. Becca Balint joins to explain how Democrats can change their tactic in the messaging war, and whether or not it's time for new leadership in the Senate. Plus, the little-known Supreme Court case that could give Trump his biggest weapon yet in his ongoing fight against diversity, including criminalizing some DEI efforts. All of that and more on “The Katie Phang Show.”
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': Republicans are scrambling to agree on a plan to keep the government funded before the March 14th funding deadline. Rep. Jasmine Crockett joins to share how Democrats are responding to Speaker Johnson's attempt to pass a stopgap bill without any bipartisan support. Plus, Trump ramps up attacks on the Department of Education as Secretary McMahon lays out the “final mission” for the organization. President of the American Federation of Teachers Randi Weingarten responds to the attacks. All that and more on ‘The Katie Phang Show'.
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': A fiery meeting in the Oval Office between President Trump, Vice President JD Vance and Ukrainian President Voldymyr Zelenskyy is drawing international backlash. Former United States Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul joins to share his thoughts on the endangered U.S.-Ukraine alliance. Plus, a busy week ahead for Congress with two competing Republican budget frameworks passing the two chambers. Rep. Brittany Pettersen joins to share why she paused her maternity leave to vote against the House Republicans' budget plan. All that and more on ‘The Katie Phang Show'.
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': Despite President Trump continuing his war on DEI, the White House held a celebration for Black History Month. Attorney and endowed chair in civil rights at Howard Law School Sherrilyn Ifill joins to share her thoughts. On Capitol Hill, House Republicans are preparing to slash Medicaid despite the program's wide-ranging use and immense popularity. Rep. Sara Jacobs shares how Republicans may regret defunding the program. Plus, the American Bar Association broke with precedent and released a fiery statement rebuking Trump's disregard for the rule of law. Professor Emeritus at Harvard Law School Laurence Tribe joins to share his thoughts on the stunning repudiation. All that and more on ‘The Katie Phang Show'.
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': The Trump administration is unleashing mass firings across multiple government agencies, impacting hundreds of thousands of workers. Rep. Grace Meng of New York shares her thoughts on the dangerous impacts it could have on the country. Meanwhile, the DOJ is moving to drop corruption charges against NYC Mayor Eric Adams despite accusations that the arrangement is predicated on Adams cooperating with Trump's immigration plans. MSNBC legal analyst Andrew Weissmann breaks down how DOJ officials will make their case to drop the charges before a federal judge. All that and more on ‘The Katie Phang Show'.
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': Washington is in chaos as the Trump administration faces legal challenges to their attempts to reshape the federal government. Rep. Maxwell Frost joins to discuss how Democrats are fighting back. And the growing presence of billionaire Elon Musk is drawing more scrutiny as he attempts to access sensitive and personal data of the American people. "Wired" Politics reporter Makena Kelly joins to break down Musk's role in Trump's White House. All that and more on ‘The Katie Phang Show'.
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': Two tragic aviation disasters are being investigated as communities mourn the loss of lives. Senior director of The Center on Military and Political Power Bradley Bowman joins to share his insight into the midair collision over the Potomac River. Meanwhile, President Trump is continuing his revenge tour, firing high-ranking FBI and DOJ personnel. MSNBC Senior Contributing Editor Michele Norris discusses the impact of Trump's attacks on independent agencies. All that and more on ‘The Katie Phang Show'.
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': It has been a busy first week of Trump's new administration including a flurry of anti-immigration executive orders, cabinet confirmation votes and controversial firings from within the federal government. Co-founder and CEO of The Seneca Project Tara Setmayer helps break it all down. And one of Trump's most controversial moves was pardoning all January 6th rioters, including violent offenders. Pam Hemphill who pled guilty to entering the Capitol joins to share why she refused Trump's pardon. Plus, author of “The JFK Conspiracy: The Secret Plot to Kill Kennedy — and Why it Failed,” Brad Meltzer joins to talk about his new book that dives into a forgotten assassination attempt against JFK. All that and more on ‘The Katie Phang Show.'
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': As the nation prepares for a new Trump era, new reporting is detailing his first plans once he takes office including mass deportations. Rep. Jennifer McClellan joins to share how Democrats are bracing for the MAGA agenda. And while Trump's criminal cases may be closed, his civil cases live on. Visiting professor at Georgetown Law Mary McCord shares her insight into how Trump may be back in court very soon. Plus, Martin Luther King III joins to pay a tribute to his father and civil rights icon Martin Luther King Jr. All that and more on ‘The Katie Phang Show'.
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': With a growing death toll and more mandatory evacuations, the Los Angeles fires are now considered the most destructive in history. Plus, Donald Trump received his long overdue sentence in the New York hush money trial. Former federal prosecutor Kristy Greenberg discusses what Trump's “unconditional discharge” means. All that and more on ‘The Katie Phang Show'.
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': After a briefly chaotic House Speaker vote, Speaker Mike Johnson won reelection thanks in no small part to President-elect Trump who convinced some of the conservative holdouts. Rep. Sara Jacobs of California joins to share her perspective on the first day of the 119th Congress. Plus, Judge Juan Merchan ordered the sentencing of Trump in the hush money case to be held on January 10th just days before he is set to assume the Presidency. MSNBC legal analyst Joyce Vance breaks down the unprecedented decision. All that and more on ‘The Katie Phang Show'.
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': As the year closes, Congress suits up for a turbulent year ahead that could see Speaker Johnson facing a tough battle to keep his Speakership. Rep. Becca Balint joins to share her thoughts on how Democrats plan to keep Congress functional. Plus, a new report from Senate Judiciary Democrats is laying out the specifics of the Supreme Court's ethics concerns. Slate's Mark Joseph Stern joins to discuss the report, as well as the status of any potential legislative reforms. All that and more on ‘The Katie Phang Show'.
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': After a narrowly avoided government shutdown, Congress has added more to Trump's to-do list in the new year. Rep. Brendan Boyle joins to discuss how a deal was made and how Republican chaos will ring in 2025. Plus, anti-Trump forces are building a network to aid potential political targets of the incoming administration. Democracy Docket's Marc Elias shares why it's so important to offer legal resources to Trump's opposition. All that and more on ‘The Katie Phang Show'.
On this week's episode of “The Katie Phang Show:” With just 37 days until Trump's second inauguration, the pressure campaign on Capitol Hill to push through Trump's cabinet nominees is ramping up. Plus: the new polling on Americans' confidence in Trump's ability to select well-qualified individuals for the jobs. Rep. Jasmine Crockett joins to give the inside view from Congress. Then: why Manhattan Attorney General Alvin Bragg is asking a judge for an “abatement” to delay legal action in the dozens of felony charges against Trump until after he leaves office and what that means for the future of the cases against him. And later: journalism legend Connie Chung joins Katie to discuss her new memoir, her path to co-anchoring one of the nation's top newscasts and how she shattered glass ceilings and paved the way for other women journalists to follow. All of that and more on “The Katie Phang Show.”
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': President-elect Trump spent his Saturday meeting with French President Macron ahead of the grand reopening of the Notre-Dame cathedral in Paris. NBC News's Vaughn Hillyard joins to break down the high profile gathering. Meanwhile on Capitol Hill, Trump's controversial cabinet picks are facing pushback from members of his own party. Rep. Jennifer McClellan joins to discuss her thoughts on the uphill battle Pete Hegseth and Tulsi Gabbard may face. And the Supreme Court heard arguments this week surrounding Tennessee's ban on gender affirming care for minors. Legal correspondent for Slate Dahlia Lithwick joins to share her analysis of the case. All that and more on ‘The Katie Phang Show'.
On this week's episode of “The Katie Phang Show": Donald Trump's cabinet selections begin, setting off a firestorm in D.C. after naming figures like embattled Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz for Attorney General and Fox News host Pete Hegseth for Secretary of Defense. Danielle Moodie and Matthew Dowd break down the dangers of eschewing governmental expertise for loyalty to Donald Trump. Then, journalist and author Don Lemon joins Katie to talk about lessons learned from voters during his post-election "man-on-the-street" interviews, and how his new book on faith “My Search for God in America” seeks to understand the role of religion in our lives today. All of that and more on “The Katie Phang Show.”
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': With the transition already underway, President-elect Trump is gearing up to make critical cabinet appointments. But a major factor remains unknown: which party will control the House? Rep. Robert Garcia of California, joins to discuss the latest on where things stand on the remaining uncalled races. And while Democrats underperformed across the nation, key reproductive rights measures passed in seven states. President of Reproductive Freedom for All, Mini Timmaraju shares what her plans are for continuing the fight. All that and more on ‘The Katie Phang Show.'
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': With the 2024 election just days away, both campaigns are pulling out all the stops to turn-out voters. While Harris is spending her day in Georgia and North Carolina, Donald Trump is taking a gamble and campaigning in the solidly Democratic-leaning state of Virginia. Katie sits down with a panel of Florida voters to discuss the issues that they're prioritizing as they head to the polls. Plus, Oscar-winning actor Robert De Niro joins to share why he believes Kamala Harris is the best option for President. And Grammy-winning singer John Legend joins live as he campaigns for incumbent Senator Sherrod Brown. All that and more on ‘The Katie Phang Show'.
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': With early voting well underway, both campaigns are making their final pitches to voters. Vice President Harris joined Beyonce in a blockbuster Houston rally centered on reproductive rights while Fmr. President Trump continued to spread debunked claims of election fraud and floated eliminating a federal income tax on ‘The Joe Rogan Experience'. Fmr. GOP Communications Director Tara Setmayer and Fmr. Florida Congressman David Jolly react to the closing arguments. Plus, Senior Advisor to the Harris-Walz campaign Adrienne Elrod joins to preview what to expect from Harris' pivotal speech set for Tuesday at the same site where Trump spoke ahead of the Jan. 6 capitol riot. All that and more on ‘The Katie Phang Show'.
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': With record-breaking early voting already underway, both campaigns are making their last pitches to swing state voters. Rep. Jasmine Crockett joins to share how the Harris-Walz campaign is planning to energize key voting blocs. And new documents are revealing insight into Special Counsel Jack Smith's federal election interference case against Fmr. President Trump. MSNBC legal analyst Joyce Vance breaks down the latest. Plus, director Sue Kim discusses her new documentary “The Last of the Sea Women” that spotlights the decades-old tradition of South Korean female divers. All that and more on ‘The Katie Phang Show'.
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': With just 24 days left until Election Day, both campaigns are making their closing arguments to voters in swing states. Republican strategist Susan Del Percio joins to discuss what issues will motivate undecided voters. And fresh from a blockbuster campaign rally led by Former President Obama, Sen. Bob Casey joins to discuss where his Senate race stands. Plus, law professor and author of “Pardon Power” Kim Wehle discusses the history of the executive action and how accountability is needed to safeguard the foundational premise that no one is above the law. All that and more on ‘The Katie Phang Show'.
On this week's episode of "The Katie Phang Show," an encouraging September jobs report revealed the U.S. added 254,000 jobs as unemployment dropped to 4.1 percent. Acting Secretary of Labor Julie Su explains the major bump in jobs and wages and how she helped end the east coast port strike before it had devastating effects on the economy. Also, co-chair for the Harris-Walz campaign Rep. Robert Garcia stops by to detail how Harris can turn out the Latino vote she'll need to win in November and the impact of celebrity endorsements on the campaign trail. Then, Katie sits down with comedians Seth Rogen and Lauren Miller Rogen to talk about their "Hilarity for Charity" initiative that works to shine a light on Alzheimer's and provide support to caregivers of people with dementia. Plus, Katie's Sidebar notes the risk of potentially putting JD Vance one heartbeat away from the presidency as the running mate of the oldest presidential candidate in American history. All of that and more on "The Katie Phang Show."
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': With 45 days until election day, both Presidential candidates are hitting the trail in crucial states and trying to court the all-important woman vote. While VP Kamala Harris highlights draconian abortion bans that are taking women's lives, Donald Trump is taking to Truth Social saying women are now “poorer”, “less safe” and “more unhappy” now than they were four years ago. Political strategist Alencia Johnson joins to share her reaction. Meanwhile, a major escalation in the Middle East after a targeted Israeli airstrike killed 31 people in Beirut. Adm. James Stavridis provides analysis for the latest attack. Plus, Mary Trump joins to discuss her new memoir, “Who Could Ever Love You” and her examination of her brutal home life. All that and more on ‘The Katie Phang Show'.
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show”: Fears of a government shutdown emerge with Speaker Johnson threatening to call a vote on a six-month funding bill tied to a bill requiring proof of citizenship to vote. Rep. Ayanna Pressley shares her perspective on the latest Republican-backed stunt. And on the trail, VP Kamala Harris is building on her post-debate momentum with staggering fundraising numbers while Trump defends his close allyship with conspiracy theorist Laura Loomer. Host of the “Woke AF Daily” podcast Danielle Moodie joins to share her thoughts on the state of the race. Plus, founder of Democracy Docket Marc Elias discusses coordinating efforts with the Harris campaign to prepare for any post-election legal battles. All that and more on ‘The Katie Phang Show'.
MSNBC's Ali Velshi gives a special preview of the second season of the “Velshi Banned Book Club.” Book banning is happening more and more. Removing literature from library shelves, school syllabi, and summer reading lists isn't just blatant censorship; it is the tip of the sword that threatens American democracy itself. In this preview, Ali reflects on why this issues is so personal for him and his family. Listen to the first two episodes now and follow the series: https://link.chtbl.com/vbbcs2_fdlw. Subscribe to MSNBC Premium on Apple podcasts for access to episodes one week early, plus ad-free listening, and bonus content from this and other shows.
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show”: MSNBC Legal analyst Melissa Murray, in for Katie Phang, goes through the latest developments pertaining to Fmr. President Donald Trump's ever-evolving legal calendar. While Judge Juan Merchan opted to delay Trump's sentencing in the NY election interference case until after the election, Judge Tanya Chutkan is wasting no time setting deadlines for the lingering immunity question in the federal election interference case. MSNBC legal analyst Barb McQuade shares her perspective on the rulings. Plus, the Presidential race heats up with a high-stakes debate set for Tuesday. Co-host of MSNBC's “The Weekend” Symone Sanders-Townsend previews what we can expect. All that and more on ‘The Katie Phang Show'.
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show”: A late-night court filing is revealing battling timelines between Special Counsel Jack Smith and Donald Trump for the federal election interference trial. MSNBC legal analyst and former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner joins to share his reaction to Trump's attempt to push the trial past Inauguration day. And on the campaign trail, Trump confuses voters over his abortion views as he refuses to take a solid position on Florida's six-week abortion ban amendment. Political strategist Lindy Li and MSNBC political analyst Susan Del Percio react to the latest fumble from the Republican ticket. Plus, an update on the crisis in the Middle East as Israel continues raids in the West Bank. All that and more on ‘The Katie Phang Show.'
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show”: The Democratic National Convention saw big ratings and massive fundraising numbers with high-profile speeches from Fmr. President Obama, Fmr. First Lady Michelle Obama, Oprah Winfrey, and other top Democrats. VP Kamala Harris delivered a rousing acceptance speech highlighting her personal background, prosecutorial record and vision for bringing America into the future. TN State Rep. Justin Jones shares his first-hand experience at the historic gathering. Plus, Michigan AG Dana Nessel joins to talk about her viral speech where she warned Republicans about rolling back LGBTQ rights. And while Democrats embrace a solidly pro-abortion rights message, pro-abortion groups are suing Alabama AG Steve Marshall who is threatening to prosecute people who aid out-of-state abortions. Exec. Dir. of the Yellowhammer Fund, Jenice Fountain, talks about the actions her group is taking against the draconian policy. All that and more on ‘The Katie Phang Show.'
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': Top Democrats are descending upon Chicago as the DNC kicks off on Monday. DNC Chair Jaime Harrison joins to preview what America can expect from the four-day convention. With speeches expected from Fmr. President Clinton, Fmr. President Obama, and President Biden, the Harris campaign is aiming to build upon their momentum. Ohio Congresswoman Joyce Beatty shares her take on this pivotal moment as one of VP Kamala Harris' closest allies. Plus, new ProPublica reporting is exposing 14 hours of Project 2025 “training videos” meant to coach prospective government employees on how to radically alter the federal government. Investigative reporter Andy Kroll talks through his detailed new reporting. All that and more on the ‘The Katie Phang Show.'
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': The Harris-Walz campaign is barnstorming through key swing states as Donald Trump's campaign schedule remains extremely light. Rep. Robert Garcia joins to share his take on the unprecedented levels of enthusiasm for the Democratic ticket. Meanwhile, a new development in Trump's federal election interference case is, once again, delaying the trial. MSNBC legal analyst Joyce Vance shares her thoughts on why patience may be needed as Trump awaits accountability. Plus, a new rule in Georgia is empowering local officials to delay or refuse certifying election results. Co-founder of Black Voters Matter Fund Cliff Albright breaks down how this could have major implications for Georgia voters. All that and more on the ‘The Katie Phang Show.
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': Vice-President Kamala Harris continues to energize her campaign as her choice of Vice-President candidate awaits. Congresswoman Ayanna Pressley joins to share her thoughts on the election. Plus, as Florida battles against the Project 2025 agenda, Floridians are fighting back. Chair of the Florida Democratic Party Nikki Fried joins to share her thoughts. All that and more on the ‘The Katie Phang Show.'
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': Vice President Kamala Harris' candidacy for the White House has shaken up the 2024 election and energized the Democratic base. Rep. Jasmine Crockett, and Senior Advisor to the Harris Campaign Keisha Lance Bottoms join to discuss the movement underway to elect the first South Asian and Black woman to the Presidency. And fresh off the record-setting “White Women: Answer the Call” Zoom meeting which raised over $8.5 million for the Harris campaign, Shannon Watts is sharing the details of the historic organizing call. Plus, Preet Bharara, former U.S. Attorney of The Southern District of New York, joins to take a deep dive into Project 2025's dangerous plans to remove any independence from the Department of Justice. All that and more on the ‘The Katie Phang Show.
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': Despite calls for unity after his assassination attempt, Fmr. President Donald Trump chose far-right Sen. JD Vance to be his running mate and ended the convention with a rambling, divisive speech. California Congressman Robert Garcia reacts to the Republican Party's inability to tamp down their alienating rhetoric. Meanwhile, President Biden is reportedly making major efforts to reform the Supreme Court including potential term limits and an enforceable ethics code. Slate's Dahlia Lithwick joins to break down how the reforms would impact the High Court. Plus, a “Katie's Sidebar” into Judge Aileen Cannon's reckless interpretation of the law that gave way to her dismissing Trump's classified documents case this week. All that and more on the ‘The Katie Phang Show.'
On this week's episode of ‘The Katie Phang Show': President Joe Biden continues to fight for his political future with Congressional Democrats split on whether or not he should step down in light of his debate performance. Reps. Jennifer McClellan and Jared Moskowitz join to share their thoughts on the state of the Democratic ticket. And on the other side of the aisle, Republicans are preparing to formally nominate Donald Trump at the RNC this week. Democratic strategist Basil Smikle, Jr. and MSNBC political analyst Molly Jong-Fast preview what to expect from the convention. Plus, investigations editor at the Palm Beach Post Holly Baltz joins to discuss new misleading claims spreading across social media regarding Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump's relationship. All that and more on the ‘The Katie Phang Show.
On this week's episode of “The Katie Phang Show,” President Biden promises to forge ahead after his primetime interview with ABC News. Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett joins to discuss the president's path forward, and her take on the danger the Supreme Court's immunity ruling poses to the country. Then, Danielle Moodie and Susan Del Percio join to talk about Project 2025, and Trump's latest efforts to distance himself from the conservative initiative. Plus, breaking news out of Florida, where Judge Aileen Cannon agreed to temporarily stay proceedings in Trump's ongoing classified documents case. All that and more on “The Katie Phang Show.”
On this week's episode of “The Katie Phang Show:” a historic glut of decisions released this week from the Supreme Court, and how its judicial power grab could impact everything from the food we eat to the air we breathe. Slate's Dahlia Lithwick on the state of the Court and Stanford Law Center's Matthew Seligman on the ripple effects the SCOTUS rulings could have on Donald Trump's legal sagas. Then Tara Setmayer and Basil Smikle join to recap this week's debate debacle, looking ahead to what a possible second debate between the candidates could be. Plus: Netflix's new documentary “Outstanding," celebrates the legacy of queer comedians and newcomers pushing the boundaries of what makes us laugh. Comedy icon Margaret Cho shares her thoughts on the future of the industry and the impact LGBTQ+ performers bring to the stage. All that and more on “The Katie Phang Show.”
It's been four years since President Joe Biden and Former President Donald Trump have gone head-to-head. And on Thursday night, the incumbent and the former president faced off in the first presidential debate of 2024. The debate was held in Atlanta and hosted by CNN. Listen to the full debate here and visit msnbc.com for more coverage in the lead up to the election.