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Check out why Grizzly Discoveries is a must-buy! With 160K acres of precious and battery metals in the Republic-Greenwood Gold District, this company is poised for success. Hecla Mining's success in the same area is a promising sign for Grizzly Discoveries shareholders. Don't miss out! In this interview we sit down with Michael Dufresne of 'Apex Geoscience', and uncover the unique value proposition of 'Grizzly Discoveries'. Mr. Dufresne is the President of APEX Geoscience Ltd. as well as a principal and a co-founder of the company. Mr. Dufresne received his B.Sc. in Geology from the University of North Carolina at Wilmington in 1983 and his M.Sc. in Economic Geology from the University of Alberta in 1987. He is a registered Professional Geologist (P.Geol.) with the Association of Professional Engineers and Geoscientists of Alberta (APEGA) since 1989. He has worked as a consulting geologist for over 30 years conducting and directing exploration programs for junior and major exploration companies and mining companies. The breadth of his work has encompassed a variety of commodities and deposit types including diamond, gold (placer and lode), base metal, uranium and industrial minerals in Alberta, British Columbia, Yukon, Nunavut, Quebec, the Northwest Territories (NWT) and internationally. Mr. Dufresne has authored numerous Technical Reports and a number of Valuation Reports for public companies for early to advanced exploration stage projects including resource work for a variety of commodities and deposit types. He has additionally published extensively on the mineral potential of Alberta, as well as the Yukon and Northwest Territories and was first author of "Diamond Potential of Alberta" Alberta Geological Survey Bulletin 63. Mr. Dufresne was personally involved with and part of the exploration teams responsible for the discovery of the George Lake – Goose Lake gold deposits, Nunavut, the Three Bluffs gold deposit, Nunavut, and the Perseverance gold deposit, in the Coolgardie area of Western Australia. Since 2012, Mr. Dufresne has become extensively involved in a number of USA based projects in Nevada, Arizona, Utah, Idaho, Montana and California. For these he has conducted numerous property visits, completed property evaluations, designed and executed dozens of exploration programs, completed mineral resource estimates and NI 43-101 Technical Reports. Mr. Dufresne has been involved in numerous assessments of a number of Nevada based Carlin and volcanic hosted gold deposits and projects including but not limited to Railroad, North Bullion, Pinion, Dark Star, Pony, Mineral Ridge, Pan, Gold Rock, Battle Mountain, Northumberland, Iceberg, Manhatten, Camp Douglas, East Bailey, Reward, Mt Hamilton, Bolo, Kinsley Mountain etc. We are an education channel that promotes resource stocks, with a proven track record of success in resource stocks and (highest)

Today's episode is dedicated to the horrors of the Civil War. A time when brother fought against brother and the blood of countless soldiers was spilled on the battlefield. We'll explore the ghosts that haunt the war-torn landscapes of Gettysburg and Antietam, the horrors of POW camps like Andersonville and Camp Douglas, and the tragic fate of the orphans left behind by the war.Intro Reading: The Sullivan Ballou Letter By: David McCulloughInterlude Music: Wolf Dream By: Rocco De LucaClosing Song: The Last Rebel By: Lynyrd Skynyrdhttps://www.amazon.com/Pirates-Scallywags-Adventure-Plunder-Debauchery/dp/1732913102Support the showYe olde march shop https://www.aohpmerch.com/s/shopDemented Darkness https://open.spotify.com/show/2ausD083OiTmVycCKpapQ8Dark Side of the Nerd https://open.spotify.com/show/6cwN3N3iifSVbddNRsXRTuFoxhound43 https://rumble.com/user/Foxhound43

Robert Girardi on “Union Prisoners of War at Camp Douglas” For More info: WWW.ChicagoCWRT.ORG Douglas, located on the south side of Chicago, was Illinois' largest Civil War training camp. More than 40,000 volunteers mustered here. In February 1862, the camp was converted to accommodate Confederate Prisoners of war. About 24,000 Confederates were held there during the war, of which 6,000 died. Their story is well-told. Yet lesser known is the story of the thousands of Union POWs who were held in the camp while awaiting exchange. After the surrender of Harpers Ferry in September 1862, the captured Union soldiers were interred in parole camps. More than 8,000 of these were sent to Camp Douglas. These soldiers occupied barracks recently vacated by Confederate prisoners and were subjected to the same poor sanitary conditions and privations. Their uncertain future and lack of understanding 2 of their status led to a breakdown in discipline. This is an account of their troublesome experiences in Chicago. Robert I. Girardi has a Masters Degree in Public History from Loyola University. He is a lifelong student of the American Civil War and has studied all aspects of the conflict. He is a past president of the Chicago CWRT and is the author or editor of nine books, and numerous articles and book reviews. He was a board member of the Illinois State Historical Society and was guest editor for the 2011-2014 Sesquicentennial of the Civil War issues of the Journal of the Illinois State Historical Society. His most recent article, "Reconsidering Major General Gouverneur K. Warren," appeared in the July 2020 issue of North and South Magazine. He is currently working on a military biography of Warren.

I sit with Author Douglas Miller to discuss his latest book, "The Greatest Escape: A True American Civil War Adventure." It tells the story of the largest prison breakout in U.S. history. It took place during the Civil War, when more than 1200 Yankee officers were jammed into Libby, a special prison considered escape-proof, in the Confederate capitol of Richmond, Virginia. A small group of men, obsessed with escape, mapped out an elaborate plan, and one cold and clear night, 109 men dug their way to freedom. Freezing, starving, clad in rags, they had to still travel 40 miles to Yankee lines and safety. They were pursued by all the white people in the area, but every Black person they encountered was their friend. In every instance, slaves risked their lives to help these Yankees, and their journey was aided by a female-led Union spy network. More on Douglas Miller here: https://www.thegreatestescapebook.com/Sign up on Patreon and be in the running for the upcoming raffle: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=51151470&fan_landing=truMusic is graciously provided by Craig Duncan.Support the show:(The podcast receives monetary compensation from these options.)Make a one time donation of any amount here: https://www.paypal.me/supportuntoldCWMake a monthly payment through Patreon and get the most up to date news on the podcast! Also, if you choose the 2,3, or 4 tier, you'll be able to ask the experts questions ahead of time!https://www.patreon.com/user?u=51151470&fan_landing=truThis show is made possible by the support of our sponsors. Please check them out below:The Badge Maker, proudly carrying affordable, USA made products for reenactors, living history interpreters, and lovers of history. https://www.civilwarcorpsbadges.com/Civil War Trails is the world's largest 'Open Air Museum' offering over 1,350 sites across six states. Paddle to Frederick Douglass's birthplace, follow the Gettysburg Campaign turn-by-turn in your car, or hike to mountain tops where long forgotten earthworks and artillery positions await you. Follow Civil War Trails and create some history of your own. www.civilwartrails.orgMilitary Images is America's only magazine dedicated solely to the study of portrait photographs of Civil War soldiers. In each quarterly issue of MI, readers find a mix of analysis, case studies, examinations of material culture and personal stories that offer a unique perspective on the human aspect of the Civil War.http://militaryimagesmagazine.com/The Excelsior BrigadeDealers in FINE CIVIL WAR MEMORABILIA.The goal of the "Brigade" is to offer high quality, original items while ensuring the best in service and customer satisfaction. https://www.excelsiorbrigade.com/HistoryFixCome enjoy history! Whether it's a movie, short film, documentary or site visit - come find a way to get away for a bit! Explore stories from the Middle Ages to the early 21st century. Enjoy historical content always ad free and get a 7-day free trial as you explore our site. Be sure to check in on Fridays as that's when new content is uploaded. https://www.historyfix.com/Check us out on Facebook, Instagram, and Youtube:Support the show

In episode 87 Jennie and Dianne talked briefly about the Potter's Field that used to exist where a baseball field is now in Chicago's Lincoln Park. In this episode they delve deeper into the City Cemetery, why the city decided it should be dismantled and what happened to those who originally called Chicago's first city cemetery their final resting place. Join them for the Ordinary Extraordinary story of burial, disease, drama and fire on this episode of the Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery. Resources used to research this episode include:Bannos, Pamela . "Hidden Truths: Pamela Bannos ." https://hiddentruths.northwestern.edu/. 1 Jan. 2022. hiddentruths.northwestern.edu/confusion/numbers.html. Accessed 19 June 2022.Quirk, Chicago . "Guess what? There are thousands of bodies under Lincoln Park. ." https://www.chicagonow.com/. 29 Oct. 2012. www.chicagonow.com/chicago-quirk/2012/10/guess-what-there-are-thousands-of-bodies-under-lincoln-park/. Accessed 19 June 2022.Editors , History.Com. "Chicago ." https://www.history.com/. 28 Apr. 2020. www.history.com/topics/us-states/chicago#:~:text=Chicago%20was%20incorporated%20as%20a,the%20way%20crops%20were%20sold. Accessed 19 June 2022.Disease Control , Centers For. "Cholera - Vibrio cholerae infection." https://www.cdc.gov/. www.cdc.gov/cholera/illness.html#:~:text=Cholera%20is%20an%20acute%20diarrheal,be%20severe%20and%20life%2Dthreatening. Accessed 19 June 2022.Wilson, James Grant. "Appletons' Cyclopædia of American Biography/Rauch, John Henry ." https://en.m.wikisource.org/. edited by John Fiske, 1 Jan. 1900. en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Appletons%27_Cyclop%C3%A6dia_of_American_Biography/Rauch,_John_Henry. Accessed 19 June 2022.Craig, Jim. "THE MOST PHOTOGRAPHED MONUMENT IN ROSEHILL CEMETERY - Frances Pearce Stone ." http://undereverystone.blogspot.com/. 24 Jan. 2014. undereverystone.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-most-photographed-monument-in.html?m=1. Accessed 19 June 2022.Karamanski, Theodore J. "Camp Douglas." http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/. www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/207.html. Accessed 19 June 2022.Editors, History.Com. "Chicago Fire of 1871 ." https://www.history.com/. 21 Aug. 2018. www.history.com/topics/19th-century/great-chicago-fire. Accessed 19 June 2022.Bannos, Pamela . "Hidden Truths: Lasting Evidence the 1998 Excavation ." https://hiddentruths.northwestern.edu/. hiddentruths.northwestern.edu/evidence/excavation.html. Accessed 19 June 2022. "Couch Tomb/Artwork ." https://www.chicagoparkdistrict.com/. www.chicagoparkdistrict.com/parks-facilities/couch-tomb-artwork . Accessed 19 June 2022. "Lincoln Park ." https://www.choosechicago.com/. www.choosechicago.com/neighborhoods/lincoln-park/. Accessed 19 June 2022.Administration , National Cemetery . Camp Douglas Prison.Rauch M.D., John H. Intramural Interments in Populous Cities, and Their Influence Upon Health and Epidemics. E-book, Chicago: Tribune Company, Book and Job Printers, 1866, pp. 1-48.

On this episode of the Poltergals your hosts, Debbie and Alison, take a virtual tour of Camp Douglas. Joon them on this very spooky episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It has been called “eighty acres of Hell” and was one of the deadliest Confederate prisons of the Civil War. Today's we're talking about Chicago's Notorious Camp Douglas.Show some love for the podcast for the cost of a cup of coffee and help offset production costs:https://www.buymeacoffee.com/chicagohistoryAmazon Affiliate Links (anything you buy - not just this stuff - through these links helps benefit the show):Chicago To Appomattox: The 39th Illinois Infantry in the Civil War by Jason B. Bakerhttps://amzn.to/3NZQkmvCamp Douglas: Chicago's Civil War Prison by Kelly Puccihttps://amzn.to/3LSacpKAndersonvilles of the North: The Myths and Realities of Northern Treatment of Civil War Confederate Prisoners by James M. Gillespiehttps://amzn.to/3r8083ZRally 'Round the Flag: Chicago and the Civil War by Theodore Karamanskihttps://amzn.to/3KaVvxz To Die in Chicago: Confederate Prisoners at Camp Douglas 1862-1865 by George Levyhttps://amzn.to/3u8JhQoAndersonville and Camp Douglas: The History of the Civil War's Deadliest Prison Camps by Charles River Editorshttps://amzn.to/3jic0vZ (Paperback)https://amzn.to/35Tn6Eu (FREE with Kindle Unlimited)Join Kindle Unlimited here: https://amzn.to/2WsP1GHPodcast art by John K. Schneider - angeleyesartjks on Instagram or at angeleyesartjks AT gmail.comChicago History Podcast Clothing, Mugs, Totes, & More (your purchase helps support the podcast):https://www.teepublic.com/user/chicago-history-podcasthttps://teespring.com/stores/chicago-history-podhttps://www.chicagohistorypod.comEmail: chicagohistorypod AT gmail.com

On this Halloween episode, Natalya and Michelle swap stories of Chicago's historic hauntings and try to separate fact from fiction, debunking a couple of myths along the way. In the second half of the episode, we share Michelle's interview with a Chicago bartender who divulges his paranormal experiences at various Windy City watering holes. Many thanks to Pamela Bannos, whose in-depth research on Chicago's original cemeteries is cited in this episode. Her project can be found here: https://hiddentruths.northwestern.edu/home.html Other cited works and references: Dead in Chicago blog post by Leyla I. Royale. Ray Johnson's blog post on Chicago's Haunt Detective. To Die in Chicago: Confederate Prisoners at Camp Douglas, by George Levy. The "City Cemetery (now southern end of Lincoln Park)" page on The Great Chicago Fire & the Web of Memory site by the Chicago Historical Society and Northwestern University. Thanks also to the Chicago Tribune for its excellent archive. Information on Bucktown and Bucktown Pub: https://www.wickerparkbucktown.com/theneighborhood/neighborhood-history/ https://bucktown.org/about/history/ https://www.bucktownpub.com/about/ Music: WTVT theme by Matt Carrico. "A Cradle Song" by Mary Riddle. "Final Days of Captivity" by Christian Andersen. Sound effects from Epidemic Sound. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

Fortitude Gold Corp (OTCQB:FTCO) CEO Jason Reid tells Proactive the group has found 'good widths of mineral' around a lithocap formulation, after it undertook an exploration drill program at its East Camp Douglas property. Reid says the drill registered 17.92 meters (m) grading 1.29 grams per tonne (g/t) gold and 6.10 meters grading 1.42 g/t gold. It will now follow up and 'chase' the system, resuming testing in August.

When Confederate soldiers came to Chicago, they did so as prisoners. Camp Douglas housed thousands of Union Army prisoners of war... and the camp had its share of controversy. This is the Backstory.

Podcast Info: On 29 January 1863 Col. Patrick Connor and his California Volunteers (US Army, Camp Douglas, Great Salt Lake City, Territory of Utah) rode down a snow covered bluff and attacked a Northwestern Shoshoni winter village--on the Bear River, in the far northern section of Cache Valley, 1.6 km from the present Utah and Idaho boundary line—killing over 400 Shoshone men, women and children.In the middle of the Civil War (1861-1865) this horrendous event became "lost" or perhaps better said suppressed, or justified by some settlers as God's will. This band of the Shoshone Nation, whose base camp was Cache Valley, save less than a hundred survivors, was annihilated.Enter Mae Timbimboo Parry (1919-2007), grandmother of Darren Parry, who was the Northwest Band of the Shoshone's matriarch, record keeper and historian. A granddaughter of massacre survivor Pisappih or Red Oquirrh (aka Yeager Timbimboo, born circa 1848, died 1937), Mae heard and felt the painful stories from her grandfather. She not only heard Red Oquirrh's stories, she also listen to and recorded the stories of other survivors; she spoke, presented and lobbied in Boise, Salt Lake City and in Washington, D.C.; and she advised other historians, including Brigham Madsen and Scott R. Christensen. And like her grandfather, Mae told her stories to her children and grandchildren.Mae, as Darren Parry describes her, "ran out of time," and was unable to take her notebooks and do her final work, that is publish her accounts, her people's stories, their perspectives, their knowing, regarding the massacre. Darren Parry speaks to senior public historian Brad Westwood, about his book, his loving story of his grandmother, the Timbimboos and the Parrys, and most importantly, about his people who died, and those who survived, the massacre on January 29, 1863 on Boa Ogoi.Bio: Darren Parry is the former chairman of the Northwest Band of the Shoshone Nation. He is the driving force behind the proposed Northwest Band of the Shoshone Nation Boa Ogoi Cultural Interpretive Center. Parry served on the boards of the American West Heritage Center (Logan, UT) and the Utah State Museum Board. He has also served on the Advisory Board of the Huntsman Cancer Center (SLC, UT). An educator by training, in secondary education with an emphasis in history, Darren graduated from Weber State University (Ogden, UT).  During the last year (2019-2020) he ran for election, unsuccessfully, to the U.S. House to represent Utah's 1st Congressional District. In 2017 he was a receipent of the Esto Pepetua Award from the Idaho State Historical Society, for one who has preserved and promoted the history of Idaho.To read the full shownotes for this podcast, including historical photographs, recommended readings, newsreports and other noteworthy podcasts regarding Parrys book, the massacre and on the NW Band of the Shoshone Nations Boa Ogoi Cultural Interpretive Center, go to SPEAK YOUR PIECE.

For nearly 9 years, the Wisconsin Coalition to Ground the Drones has held monthly vigils at the gates of Volk Field in Camp Douglas, Wisconsin to protest the RQ-7 Shadow Drones housed there and the US program of drone warfare in general — a program the UN has called a war crime, because many of […] The post Judge refuses to delay in person trial for at risk anti-war protesters... appeared first on WORT 89.9 FM.

Date: December 10, 2015 Speaker: Dave Keller Topic: Camp Douglas - Chicago Civil War Round Table Monthly Meeting

For the next two episode we are going to take a deep dive into two of the worst Civil War prisoner camps, one Union and one Confederate. The starvation, disease and violence that took place in these camps are horrifying. In this episode we will focus on Camp Douglas, just outside of Chicago, this camp saw more death than most civil war battles. For ad free and exclusive content become a Patron. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Episode 1849 of the Vietnam Veteran News Podcast will feature a feel good story out of the great state of Wisconsin. The featured story appeared in the Juneau County Star-Times and was titled: Volk Field in Camp Douglas restores Bell … Continue reading → The post 1849 – Vintage Vietnam Huey restored in Wisconsin appeared first on .

In this episode, I give an update in the Jayme Closs case before going on to cover the history of one of the coooooolest cemeteries in Wisconsin - Forest Hill in Madison. Come learn about the northernmost Confederate cemetery, effigy mounds, and some willllddd history - oh, and make sure to visit the FB page for pics! Resources Jayme Closs Today show snippet Patterson guilty plea Forest Hill wiki Parks page Haunted Madison Forest Hill Cemetery guide Confederate Rest removed A Biographical Guide to Forest Hill Cemetery: The Ordinary and Famous Women and Men Who Shaped Madison and the World (Amazon) This Podcast Will Kill You Transcript Welcome back to the Spooky Sconnie Podcast - the podcast that talks about everything, spooky, funky, criminal and weird in the state of Wisconsin. Before I dive into this week's topic, I wanted to give an update because I'm recording this right now on Wednesday the 27th and that means Jake Patterson who abducted Jayme Closs and killed her parents in October of 2018 was just arraigned and pled guilty to charges. So I wanted to talk a little bit about that before I dive into today's topic. Upon entering the court, he was crying and sniffling as he answered the judge's questions. He pled guilty to the three charges against him, which was killing Jayme's father, killing Jayme's mother, and then kidnapping Jayme. Um, the murders bring with them a life sentence while the kidnapping charge could be up to 40 years. So he's basically facing, um, two life sentences and an extra 40 years. ----more---- It seems as though from what I've read, that he struck a plea deal in this case, which means that, um, no other charges during the time that he had Jayme in his possession will be brought up as well as he won't be charged with armed burglary, which was part of this as well. So, um, for people wondering if Jayme had undergone any sexual violence with him, we still don't know. My guess is, again probably, but at this point they don't want to put her through talking about that. And I would say rightly so. Um, he, as I said, pled guilty to all those three counts and will be sentenced on May 24th. As he was being led out of the court, he said "bye, Jayme." She was not in the courtroom. I, I'm sure that he wants to think that she's watching, but her family has been shielding her from basically all of the coverage around this case. Over the weekend of the 16th here, um, he had a call with WCCO, which is, um, uh, a local news station, I believe out of Minneapolis with one of their reporters that also made the Today Show. And I wanted to give a little bit of an update about that. Um, he said that he knew he wasn't supposed to talk to the reporters but he didn't care. Um, and that he doesn't want to cause any more harm, which to be frank, I think talking to the reporters and basically coming into people's living rooms is causing more harm. But that's just me. He talked about that he wants to talk to her [Jayme] but knows he can't. He loves her. Um, which, uh, Gail on the today show mentioned after the, um, snippet about this aired that she hoped that Jayme's family and people that she was close with were still shielding her from, um, the news and, and making it so she wasn't watching things like the Today Show when the stuff will randomly pop up because of how jarring that could be. And, um, I think that was rightly so. And, and just as an Fyi, I have linked to the youtube video of this news snippet. Um, Gail is laughing at the beginning of it because they were talking about something funny in the previous segment. She's not laughing about this. There were a lot of youtube comments - context, people. He - Patterson - said that while he had Jayme in his custody, they spent time talking about stuff, playing games, watching TV and cooking and that just about everything that they ate was home, home cooked. Um, obviously as you can guess with wanting to not, you know, tell everybody that he has a kidnapped girl in his possession. About that same day on the 16th, Elizabeth Smart - famous kidnapping survivor - talked here in Wisconsin in Barron where Jayme grew up and in her hometown. She talked a lot about how to help Jayme heal but also how to heal as a community. Um, and I think I've talked about this before in the, in the minisodes about this case, but Elizabeth Smart got abducted when I was young and, um, her constant work around not only kidnapping, not only healing from trauma, but also around how the sex negative culture that we have makes it even tougher on victims and survivors is just fascinating. And I have goosebumps right now because, um, it matches up so well with the work I do, um, in the, in the sex ed world. So it just makes me happy. Elizabeth Smart also talked about respecting Jayme's privacy and avoiding really tough questions. So again, I really feel like this comes back to don't ask her if she was on the receiving end of any sexual violence during this, uh, 88 day kidnapping and being held against her will. So that's the update for Jayme's case. And, um, hopefully here we will have a very quick sentencing and there won't be any issues to let Jake off because motherfucker does not need to be anywhere outside of the jail right now. I generally want to like move towards restorative justice and things like that, but when people can't even tell you why they abducted someone, there's still a part of me that says, "Nope, that's too scary." Um, that's obviously something I'm working on and I think something we all need to work on. But, um, when it's a a white boy, I also don't feel that sad about it to be frank. Um, but that's a topic for another day. So for today's episode we're actually talking about a cemetery here in Madison. It is Forest Hill Cemetery and it's actually one of the first US national cemeteries established here in Wisconsin. It's located at one Speedway Road, which basically serves as a junction between Mineral Point Road - which is on the west side for the most part - and campus. So like the Regent Street area that goes, you know, right down by LaBahn arena where the badgers just brought home the national championship in women's Ice Hockey and I'm fawning all over. Um, and um, yeah, the Kohl Center where the Badgers men's hockey team plays. Um, but also like Camp Randall and some other spaces. So this is a pretty well traveled area. Um, it's right by one of the high schools. It's, it's fairly well known. So if you've been to Wisconsin and you're remembering a very, very large cemetery that covers both sides of a road, it's probably Forest Hill. It's often described as a romantic or rural cemetery. Um, the rural cemetery movement really drew upon like English garden landscape styles that were really, really popular. Um, especially the late 18 hundreds, like middle to late 18 hundreds here in the states. About the same time that, um, you know, we were turning the corner into the 19 hundreds. There were concerns about the aesthetic around like this rural cemetery thing. Um, and there wasn't any uniformity around gravestone markings and headstones. So people would make these grand elaborate things on top of their graves and in their families' plot area. And, um, of course, you know, at that point the people that ran Forest Hill couldn't turn around and say, okay, we need to get rid of those. Um, but they do have some areas now where it's just flat markers and it just makes maintenance easier. There's not this constant like one upmanship and, um, just tends to be a newer area for, for people who've been buried far more recently. Um, they also really wanted to use like soft lines. And so when you go and you see the landscaping around the cemetery, it's really beautiful and, um, it feels rural while at the same time, you know, you can hear cars and the distance, you don't feel like scared rural. That makes sense. Um, but instead you're just kind of in this very nice space that turns almost into its own world, which I think is powerful. Um, and also beautiful. The graveyard contains just about everybody from Catholics to Lutherans to Jews, um, and more, but we especially have a very large Hmong population. So the Mung are an ethnic group originally from, um, this kind of region between China and Southeast Asia. And there were a lot of Hmong people who came over to Wisconsin in general as refugees during the Vietnam War. Um, and, uh, you know, were coming from Vietnam and China to come seek space here to be safe. So there's a very large Hmong population throughout the state, but especially, um, as we start looking at graveyards and things, there's a lot more diversity than I think people think Wisconsin would have, especially here in Madison, right, with the university and people really making homes here after that. The first burials of settlers slash colonizers here in Madison happened on Bascom Hill. And like, if you watch, um, you know, college football games, you'll usually see Bascom hill, um, when it's featured on like national TV. So it's this big hill with like the snazzy White House look in building at the top of it. And sometimes it's decorated with flamingos. There's a history about that. We'll get into it in a later date. But, um, so, so it's really like a very main point of campus. State Street is a street that you, um, you can't drive down. It's just like a pedestrian street with a lot of shops and restaurants and that kind of runs straight into the hill, um, which then goes up into a different part of campus. And um, further on the other side of that hill is really more of like ag buildings and um, vet buildings and even the medical building cause the hospital's much further down from the hill. But let's get back to this right now that I've given you a mental layout. So basically this hill's right in the middle of campus and I'll talk more about it on its own because the UW is definitely going to get its own very long episode. There were a few other cemeteries around the city located around, um, spaces we know now as like North Carroll Street or even where the Saint Mary's hospital currently is, which is further down on Park Street. But uh, that, that also just reminds me never to go there. Um, it's a Catholic hospital and there's a lot of problems with it anyway. But, um, I think it's kind of a, an interesting thing to have a hospital basically built on where a graveyard used to be but of course there are houses and stuff built there too. Um, anyway, downtown Madison and much of campus itself lies on an isthmus and I hate saying this word cause I feel like I have like a slight lisp and so it makes it hard to say isthmus - whatever. It's i s t h m u s. As defined by Wikipedia, an isthmus is "a narrow piece of land connecting two larger areas across an expanse of water by which they are otherwise separated." So it's like a land bridge and, here in Madison, the isthmus is between Lake Mendota and Lake Monona. There's only one other city built on an isthmus and that's Seattle. So fun fact there - between being on the isthmus and having a very rapidly growing population, they were looking locally to establish a more formal cemetery and to push it more towards the outskirts of town. Not only was that a pretty common thing at the time, it also pushed the cemetery to further away from the lakes and the isthmus itself. So you wouldn't run into things like major flooding that might bring up bodies and stuff like that. Um, this last summer we had terrible flooding and now that all of the snow is melting, um, it's, it's definitely not as bad as it was over the summer. Um, cause we had a couple of days of torrential downpour, but a lot of the water spaces are very, very, very, very high almost to the road. Again, the first official village cemetery was established in 1847 near what is now Orin Park, which is really close to, um, this area that we're talking about. In the mid 1850s, a committee was formed to search for a more appropriate site to really create, as I said, like an official, um, cemetery for the city and, and some surrounding areas as well. So they chose the current site, which was at that point on the very far west side. Um, and they bought in original 80 acres of land for about $10,000 from John and Mary, right in 1857 and they had actually obtained the land from James Duane Doty who had gotten it from Alanson Sweet who was a territorial council member from Milwaukee that really led the fight to make Madison, um, the Capitol of the state, which is kind of cool. We'll get into that at some point too. Um, this is definitely like the nerdiest stuff and I get way too excited about it. Um, so this area is about two and a half miles away from the state Capitol building, which, um, to go back to Bascom hill and that layout Bascom hill flows into state street and state street goes right up to the Capitol building. So it all flows really cool. Um, but is very far to walk. Um, many of Forest Hill's earliest like graves were re burials from other graveyards around the city, including spaces like Orton Park. And they're actually at the time that they bought this, this large plot of land, there were still people using it for agricultural purposes. And so the transition to really fully using it as a cemetery was gradual. Um, and it wasn't until 1861 that the common council and asked the cemetery committee to, um, you know, not allow people to keep farm animals in the cemetery, which is wild to me to think of like, you're just going to like have a picnic by your dead relative and there's a cow. It just feels like the most Wisconsin thing. By five years later, um, the Wisconin State Journal had written about a group of men who were just covered with, um, like horses and plows and other farming material, planting potatoes in unoccupied parts of the cemetery. Um, you know, people that live nearby still continued to use the land for their own purposes, for planting crops, for planting a garden, um, up until basically they were phased out by like the cemetery growing or people catching on, which I think is hilarious. During the 1860s, the city made a lot of improvements because they had sold a lot of plots. And so they added things like fences and a gate, um, a receiving vault, which allows people to, um, be held in a space where they're not going to stink everything up while it's winter and there's too much snow or the ground is too frozen to actually bury them. So something that actually happens a lot here in Wisconsin is you'll see somebody dies in say November and then they're not buried till April because everything's frozen. And even then, sometimes April's a stretch. So, uh, that's something that was really important at this point in time for them to install and, um, get a lot of use out of. They also planted some new trees and some nice shrubbery and, and other miscellaneous, um, gardening goodies throughout the space of the cemetery to really make it feel, um, you know, going back to the beginning, like this romantic, earthy, beautiful space. Um, at that point, they also decided that they, you know, they recognized that people with different faiths might want to be buried in their own sections. And so they offered sections to some of the Jewish congregations locally, which they accepted and purchased a section on the southwest side of the cemetery and, um, to Catholics and the Catholics and the Roman Catholic society had declined. And then turned around a couple of years later and purchased, um, 25 acres from the city, which is now the Resurrection Cemetery, which is basically the other side of the road, um, from Forest Hill, which is fun. It's still basically there. So again, like mid 18 hundreds, people would get in their carriages on Sunday afternoons and go out to the cemeteries for picnics. And this may sound really weird, but that was actually part of what they wanted picnics to be at that point in time, was to be this space where you could go and have this nice park atmosphere, but also be able to go be with and remember and honor your loved ones. So, you know, um, uh, kind of anecdotal example could be, um, when I was little I would go visit my great grandmother's grave, um, back in the Pacific northwest and we would get ice cream cones, which were some of her favorite things. We would like go out on day trips and drive around and get ice cream Collins and look at the pretty nature around us. Um, so you know, I'd like go sit there and eat ice cream cone and like talk to her. Right. And it's just like an anecdotal example, but there are many other people who might bring their whole families to visit, you know, their late mother or late father and really kind of spend time there in that space with them, which I think is really cool. And I kind of hope we get back to not just cause I want to eat ice cream in a cemetery. I just like, I think it's really cool. I mean, I don't mind eating ice cream in a cemetery. I could eat ice cream anywhere. Well, almost anywhere a morgue would be terrifyin. So the people who had access to carriages were really the well to do and this became a pretty good sign of wealth and of social status if you could like be seen at the cemetery eating sandwiches. Um, and it wasn't until about the late 18 hundreds, so 1897 when they actually extended the street car tracks from downtown to the entrance of Forest Hill. And um, it allowed a lot more people to be able to go and visit their loved ones and you know, do picnics if they wanted or, or just sit and visit and honor them, which I think is really cool. Um, the, let's get back to the civil war because that's about to happen. It really became a turning point for how we used cemeteries here in the states. And you know, looking at the demographics of who died. I think that's a pretty important thing we look at here in Madison. Um, as a city we sent two thirds of men age 20 to 45 off to war. And that was a larger population than any other city in Wisconsin, probably because we had a lot of younger people and about 24% of those men died in service, which means just about everyone here in Madison would have lost a loved one, whether it was a family member or a friend. And honoring those people became something really important, um, not only locally but nationally. Um, it became far less of "let's go to the cemetery on a picnic to honor Papa" and more "Let's go visit our brother John who died and mourn and bring all of those feelings with us." It wasn't so much about spending time and honoring in a maybe jovial way or a comforting way as it was looking back on the loss of the sorrow of that time period. And that's where, where everything really started to shift with cemetery use. Within, um, Forest Hill itself, there's the Soldier's Lot where about 240 union soldiers are buried as well as the Confederate Rest plot, which holds 140 prisoners of war. And we will get to that shortly. Well, kind of shortly. Um, Memorial Day, um, or as it was called way early on, 'decoration day' was first observed here in Madison in 1868 and they had a parade from the center of the town to the cemetery to adorn the graves and talk and honor people who had fallen. In 1878, they constructed a chapel, Caitlin Chapel, Catlin Chapel. Sometimes I can't read what I wrote. I think it's Catlin, c, a, t, l, i, n. And they built it new their cemetery entrance and it became a space for people to come and worship. Um, and it really kind of signaled along with the street car being built within the next couple of decades. It really signaled even more change from um, what the cemetery had been one at first started to really becoming something that was public and not exclusive. Going back to the streetcar thing, since we're there about timeline wise, the current cemetery office was actually built as a street car station, um, which I think is absolutely fantastic. And it was built in 1908, so about a decade after the street cars started to really, you know, help hold crowds and help provide shelter for people waiting for the street car back and all of that stuff. In the 1920s, the city purchased an additional two tracts of land bordering Forest Hill. There's 20 acres from the Zwerg farm and 60 acres from the Wingra Land Company. Now the, um, land from the farm has been incorporated into the cemetery. There's dead people in it. Um, and then the land from Wingra has actually been leased to a golf course since 1927 - the Glen Way Golf course, which is nine holes. Um, and a lot of people who have enjoyed golfing in general like to find plots in a duration sections like very close to the green so that they could conceivably like watch golf. It's just fantastic. The land itself hasn't really changed since this time. So, um, Forest Hill cemetery itself is about 75 acres right now. Madison was also figuring out, um, how to handle people who are using the cemetery for a sexy purposes, um, at probably because of the fact that it was so much more accessible at this point. A lot of young couples, and this was not a Madison specific thing. This is something that also happened nationwide, but a lot of young couples would sneak off to the cemetery after dark because no one would be there to go neck and snug and whatnot. And I mean, you think about it, it's a gorgeous space. Yes, there's headstones and dead people, but like there's pretty, there's trees. It's very naturey. Um, it's all kind of makes sense honestly. And this just represented, you know, one more new thing that was happening. Um, and, and having people who had enough extra time to be all like, sneak off and make out, especially teenagers, um, having teenagers who weren't at, at, um, like working out in the fields all day and were instead like in school and then maybe at jobs, um, give them a lot more time to go do the dippidy in the cemetery. Many local commissions really tried to regulate this new, uh, recreational purpose. And they would do things like charge admission fees or um, if they hadn't had gates install gates or have people who kind of kept the grounds in the evenings to like chase kids off, which I think is kind of fascinating. Um, in 1910 to back up a smudge, there was a booklet released called "Rules and Regulations of Forest Hill Cemetery." And some of the stuff I read really tied that into this notion of having to like push back against kids doing it. Um, but part of this booklet talks about hours at admission and you know, tells you you can't pick any of the shrubbery or flowers and you can't ride or drive faster than you walk. You can't be drunk or drinking. You shouldn't be resting in spaces that don't belong to you. And, um, you shouldn't be like walking over dead people, which might be my favorite one. Um, I really try hard to like not walk over dead people's spots anyway. So when I read that, I was like, Ooh, it's me. I'm a big nerd. Um, unfortunately a lot of the pushback against, you know, kids and, and people coming to use the graveyard area for different purposes, um, I think helped contribute to the fact that now cemeteries are lonely and sad and sure, you know, bringing in the civil war and bringing in the sorrow from that time period forward and all the wars we had sense definitely plays a part. And, um, one of the things I was reading also talked about cars playing apart. You know, a lot of people when they go visit graveyards, they might just stop in their car and not get out, especially if it's like a shit day weather wise. But I really think a lot of it was this pushback and I don't know if there's any way that they could have done it differently, but it's just something to think about I guess. Hmm. Forest Hill's landscape, architecture, and building program shifted to really incorporate new design ideas. Um, the mausoleum was built in 1916 which offered, you know, above ground burials. And it's a really nice space. It's like right across from the chapel. It's, it's really pretty. Um, and then they eventually, um, as I said had adopted the notion of having flat grave markers in a, at least one part of the cemetery. One of the cool things is that there're a lot of effigy mounds within the cemetery. So let's talk about effigy mounds for a minute. Long before Forrest Hill became like this premiere big cemetery, it was a cemetery already. Um, Native American and Indigenous people had been using the space for effigy mounds for a really long time. And these mounds remind all of us, right, that this land was a sacred spot already and it wasn't white people coming in that made it sacred. You can explore effigy mounds in this area and, and honestly, all throughout the state. Um, and there's different sections, which is, is cool. Um, most of the effigy mounds are within section 35, but, but you can get hints and um, you might be able to see where there may have been one in the past. It's really unfortunate - for really long time, people didn't think of effigy mounds is the thing or just thought it was a hill or give a shit cause it was Native Americans and indigenous people. Um, so unfortunately there is a lot of effigy mounds that have been destroyed, um, even if just partially so, which is so sad, but a lot of them have been preserved. Um, and we'll talk a little bit more about that. Join me on our effigy mound journey. So effigy mounds were built between the years 700 and 1200 CE by Native Americans and indigenous people. And they were built, you know, on the land that is now part of Wisconsin. Earlier mounds tended to be, um, connical or geometric. So they were shapes but not necessarily the same way as, um, you know, the effigy mounds as they are now. I feel like that didn't make any sense. It's like if you look up here, I meds, right? Some of them are step pyramids and some of them are triangular pyramids and step ones usually came earlier. And it seems to be that like once people figured out how to make the triangular ones, they shifted to that. Um, or if they had the resources to do that, they shifted to that. It's kind of the same idea with the effigy mounds. So at first they might've just been a little mound and then they grew into, now if you look at it from far away, it looks like a Jaguar, which is pretty cool. The term effigy really refers to the fact that they were built in shapes of animals. Um, and they were usually constructed around sites that already had earlier mounds, which is really neat. Kind of keeping those spaces together, recognizing that you'd already created a sacred area and really kind of filling it out and telling a story with the shapes you were making. People who built the effigy mounds during the late woodland period, which is where we were at in Wisconsin, and that was happening, excuse me. Um, really obtained a lot of resources by hunting and gathering. Um, so you may find things like corn near an effigy mound. You may find things like clay pots near an effigy mound or in an effigy mound. Um, and the effigy mounds themselves were burial spaces. Um, they were really meant to serve as this really cool decorative way to bury your dead. And archeologists have found no other significant burial grounds by the late woodland people who lived where we now know as Wisconsin. So really these effigy mounds were the primary way they buried and honored their dead. Effigy mounds typically contain one body or might have several. Um, it all depends on how large the mound is and shape and stuff. Some mounds had no bodies at all and that winds up bringing up concerns about, well, was this already disturbed at some point? Did they forget to put a body in there or what was the other purpose of this mound? I will do a whole episode about effigy mounds at some point, but um, the basic way they usually created them was they would dig the shape they wanted and then place the dead and whatever objects they wanted that person to have with them and then create the rest of the shape on top. So it's really like building a hill, um, which is really cool. I think, I don't know. I'm a nerd. Mounds began to be excavated and preserved, um, probably around the mid 19 hundreds. Um, and now let's become a really big part of Wisconsin. And a part of our tradition has been preserving Native American and indigenous spaces as much as we can and talking about them and learning about them and sharing that knowledge with others, which I think is cool. So let's talk about the confederates. Hooray. Not really. Um, so as I said earlier, there's a section of the cemetery that's known as Confederate Rest and there's about 140 confederate prisoners of war who died while in confinement and a union camp here in Madison in 1862. The bulk of the soldiers were a part of the first Alabama and from tree regimen or supporting that regiment during fights. And they had just moved from, I think it was Ohio, back into Illinois when they got caught up in a 23 day fight and then were captured by General John Pope and Commodore Andrew Foote. 5,000 of the prisoners of war were sent to different areas. So some were sent to like a Saint Louis for example. And then about a thousand of them came up to camp Randall. You might be saying right now like "wait, Camp Randall is where the Badgers play football!" Yeah. So it used to be a training camp for soldiers mostly during the civil war and it wasn't well equipped at all in general, but it was especially shit - shittily equipped to be a holding facility prison. On April 19th, 881 confederates arrived and on the 25th, another 275 came, the leader group actually came by boat, um, because they were incredibly sick and would not have been able to do the journey by rail that the earlier group had done. Within two days of the second group coming, 10 of the confederates had died. Most of the soldiers who would die did so due to wounds they had sustained during the fights, um, due to infections due to malarial fever. Um, who knows whether it was like it actually anything related to that, like malaria or anything like that at all? I think it was just fever. Um, so again, infection and then some sort of condition that caused diarrhea. There wasn't great, um, maintenance within camp Randall. So one of the things that they're worried about like cholera or something like that that was passed through stools and then, you know, hung out in spaces where you're drinking water. Yeah, it's great - shit water. After 140 soldiers had died, those who were left were transferred to Camp Douglas in Chicago. The state journal kept a record of deaths that happen day to day, which is Kinda cool. Um, on May 3rd, they posted the following under the headline of Death of Prisoners at Camp Randall: "There is a great mortality in the Prisoners Hospital at Camp Randall. Rumors are prevalent of gross neglect in respect to medical and other attendance, and of inattention to the ordinary hospital alleviations and to sanitary rules. We have not visited the hospital, and cannot vouch for these current reports. It is to be hoped that means will be adopted to spare needless suffering, and to provide, as far as possible, for the comfort and restoration of the sick." (book, part 2, 393) So clearly it wasn't on in great shape. Um, and we'll never know for sure. I think what a lot of these folks actually died of. Germ theory was not prevalent at the point, uh, that the civil war happened. And so there just wasn't knowledge about how we spread germs and all of that. Um, and there's some really great podcast episodes around that topic from the podcast called This Podcast Will Kill You. It's fantastic. It's nerdy. It's about epidemiology and diseases and pandemics and it's fantastic - and it's led by two chicks. So please go listen to it cause it's a great podcast. In the confederate section, there is a grave just in front of it and it belongs to a woman named Alice Whiting Waterman. She was born in the south and moved to Madison in 1868. She was widowed and didn't have any relatives, so she really didn't know what to do with her time to be quite frank and she became really interested in the neglected graves because they weren't well kept as you can imagine, because they're prisoners of war, so she spent the next 25 years of her life, the the year she had left taking care of that space and beautifying it and making it look better, cleaning it up so you could see the tombstones getting tombstones for those who didn't have them. Governor Lucius Fairchild also assisted in the effort, likely due to having fought in the war himself, but he's also often left out of the narrative and all of the blame is placed on Waterman. I don't know who knows what the full story is, but seems like uh, a lot of it gets placed on her because they don't want to associate Fairchild with it. I don't know. Anyway, the movement really was Waterman's baby. She referred to them as her 'boys' and really took ownership of essentially her kinfolk having grown up in the south. And when she died, she asked it to be buried with them. So they did what they could and buried her in front of them. We're going to get into some interesting things with this. Uh, but first let's boop ahead to 1872 and For memorial day that year, this space really served as a space of reconciliation. Um, that year, Governor Cadwallader C Washburn - who had been a union general at Vicksburg and elsewhere, but that was his big battle - spoke, and this goes on for a minute, so I'm sorry, but it's pretty great: "I would not have these ceremonies perpetuated for the purpose of keeping alive resentments of dividing a people that ought to be united, but only to remind us of the priceless value of our glorious union, and our obligations to those who sacrificed their lives to uphold and maintain it and to the near and dear ones they have left behind. Here, almost side by side, and in one silent bed, are laid not only those who sacrificed their lives to preserve - but also those to destroy our fair fabric of governance. Misguided as the last were, you wage no war with lifeless clay and your resentments stop with the grave. Let us then after we shall have decked the graves of our brave defenders, scattering pansies, forget-me-nots and the 'rosemary of rememberance,' nowt forget the lowly bed of those who sleep so far away from their once happy and sunny homes." (book, part 2, 398) I'm about to get into why this is bullshit, but first, let's hear what the newspaper has to say about this whole shenanigans: "After the graves of the Union soldiers had been handsomely and befittingly decorated, Governor Washburn stepped to the front, with more courage than has ever been shown on these occasions, asking volunteers to go with him to scatter flowers over the graves of the rebel dead who reposed nearby. No one can go beyond us in renouncing the cause of secession in all its forms, but we say Governor Washburn's conduct yesterday was that of a high-minded, magnanimous solider - of one who dared to sustain his professions by his public acts - and show charity for the erring and misguided 'boys in gray,' who like our own soldiers were brave beyond parallel, though sadly in the wrong. So little an act as this will do more to wipe out the asperities of the war than we can estimate. We can say it with credit to the old soldiers present that the Governor was not without a following in his work of merciful charity. All the officers of the day, chaplains, and veterans of a hundred battlefields joining in strewing the graves of the rebel dead." (book, part 2, 398) So it was either really easy to forgive and forget during this time period or this is the whitest thing I've ever heard. I can see in that time period right, going, okay, we're done. Things are getting better. But the fact that people thought it was actually getting better at that time period without recognizing that, slavery just shifted. And that black people still didn't have the right to vote from in most places. And in the small places they did have the right to vote, they were often bullied and threatened and harmed if they did. So like from a white person's perspective - Sure. Let's forgive and forget. And these little boys were wrong. They just made an Oopsie. I'm sorry. Fuck all y'all. No And it just gets better. Are you ready for this? So you know, from the 1872 up to 2000, people would still come and decorate that area with confederate flags. And it was only when a couple of people complained that they went, 'oh, I guess we should stop that.' Now let's fast forward to last October because of all of the stuff that has happened in fairly recent history with white supremacists and racists bigots re using the confederate flag and reasserting their, um, loyalty to those who led the confederate army and everything they stood for. Um, you know, there was a question about what the fuck do we do with the spot. And in October, 2018 the Madison City Council had convos about this. They were like, what the fuck do we do? They voted 16 to two to destroy the marker with the list of buried prisoners, which overturned the landmarks commission, um, who had denied a permit to remove the marker. The marker was built in 1906. Like, okay, it is historical, but do we need it and do we need everything that says, oh, proud boys, these are great? Um, no, we don't. The eradication of that plaque was seen as some people within the city government as some sort of reparation. Um, I don't think it's that, but it was supported by a number of people and a number of organizations throughout the city, state and even nationally, um, including like the Equal Opportunities Commission here in Madison. The Dane County Historical Society was pissed. Um, the editorial board of the Wisconsin State Journal was pissed because this is the northern most confederate graveyard. And I get that. I get that there's history, but we don't need to celebrate people who did terrible things. Um, then I think that if you're going to war for the confederacy, we can't excuse that. When I was in eighth grade, we had conversations about, 'oh well Robert E. Lee didn't really like slavery. He just didn't think black people were people, so that's why he fought on that side' as if that's somehow excused it and I'm sorry. No, it doesn't. As of January, the monument was removed and it was given to the local veterans museum. They didn't do damage to the monument, the cemetery grounds. Um, and uh, I'm going to talk about this interview and I'll put the link in the resources notes. I always do that. Um, but I, I think it paints a good picture of this. Michael Telzrow, the director of the Wisconsin Veterans Museum, said the marker is in crates at the state archive preservation facility on Madison's Near East side. He said there are no current plans for its exhibition either now or in the near future. It's highly unlikely that it would ever be permanently displayed. The museum, which is that 30 West Mifflin Street on the Capitol Square, accepted it because of the connections between that memorial and the union veterans from Wisconsin because there were a lot of veterans here that helped raise money for that marker, um, and things like that. So that's part of why they decided to take it and I think they also just wanted to get the shit done with, to be honest. Um, not all of the monument's gone. So there's a base of the structure that kind of acts as a fence around the plots themselves and it was going to be way too costly to get a permit to take that out. Um, it's made from granite, it weighs like over 4,000 pounds, so it's just not, um, something that's worth it at this point. Instead, they took like the two top portions off and brought that to the state archives preservation facility on Thornton Avenue. The top most portion listed 132 of the names of the soldiers who died at the camp when it was used as the military base. The middle section stated erected in loving memory by the United daughters of confederacy to Mrs Alice Whiting Waterman and her boys - a reference to again Waterman - and nothing's inscribed in the base. So in August, 2017, mayor Paul saw Glen, (who's running again, dear God. Why?) ordered that a smaller stone marker and plaque be removed. And that monument that was placed in 1982 described the dead as "Valliant confederate soldiers" and "unsung heroes." And that came right after, um, the protest around the statue in Virginia and um, the death of Heather Heyer. Is that her last name? Oh, Shit. I think it is. Y'All know what I'm talking about. It's okay. Um, yeah, so that's the big stuff with this area. Um, some notable residents include Steve and Babcock who, um, helped revolutionize dairy production. I mean, this is Wisconsin. Kathryn Clarenbach, who was one of the founders of the National Organization for Women (NOW) who I unfortunately need to point out are TERF. Um, if you've not encountered the term TERF, it stands for Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist. Um, I've also seen people write it as fart and I can't remember everything it stands for it cause I laughed too much. Um, I can't remember. But the point is that, um, as we're doing feminist stuff, there's a lot of people who want to exclude people who are trans in some way. And um, let me put my sex educator hat on. Being cisgender just means you assigned or you, you're identity aligns with your assigned sex slash gender at birth. So you're born, you have a penis, they call you a boy. Um, and you know, fast forward 30 years later, you're still cool with being a dude. Then you're cisgender. Transgender people don't identify that way. And actually there's a lot of science to back this up. I won't get into a lot of it because that's a whole different section of a podcast, right? But the fact of the matter is science shows that, excuse me, our brains align far more with our identities then, I dunno, our genitals do. And the reason I talk about this is I am trans. Trans is not just being one gender and wanting to go to a different gender. It's not just going through, um, hormone replacement therapy or, um, going through surgeries. Sometimes it's just, um, your state of being. So for me, I am what is known as gender fluid. And what that means is that some days I wake up and I want to be super femme and pretty and paint my nails and maybe be called a slut and have my hair pulled. And um, just enjoy that. Right. And there are some days where I wake up (usually after watching ghost adventures, not really), but I wake up and I'm like, yeah, dude, Bro. Ah, and I get like really aggro and I'm very masculine and other days I'm somewhere in between and aren't just me. And there's not a good way to put a finger on that, but organizations that are TERFy in nature don't want people like me involved. They don't want people who were assigned as boys at birth who are now women to be involved in their organization. And that's fucking bullshit. Um, also Matilda S Howell who started the first kindergarten and fighting Bob La Follette who we will talk about later. I promise - there's so much to talk about. Since the early two thousands, the Wisconsin Veterans Museum has sponsored an annual talking spirits, tore that runs for a week, each October. It's really cool. Um, groups walk throughout the cemetery with a guide and they stopped for the little vignettes that are performed by actors that you know, are all dressed up and I'm representing kind of civil war era people. So in 2013, um, for example, they had someone portray a woman whose two sons were a part of the iron brigade and had died and how she was handling things and all of this stuff is really heavily researched and they actually base it on like real life, which I love. It's brought like 1600 school kids and, um, several hundred people from the community and it's just really fun. Um, if you go at night, you have candles. It's just, it's nice. I like it. Um, so I couldn't find a ton about it being haunted, but there's just a couple of things. Um, you know, of course the people who were moved from other cemeteries to here, um, maybe their spirits are wandering and lost. Of course, there's also, you know, concerns about, people within the confederate plot and haunting and, and being upset that they're stuck up here in the north or that they lost. Um, and then there were other people who were buried in unmarked graves. There's actually a, a large section in one of the books that I read, um, where people are just kind of lost to time. Nobody knows who's there, just really sad. And I did find something about, um, they think there might be people hearing baby's crying, but I also saw that on a similar, um, similarly named cemetery in another part of the state. So I can't say for sure, but I love this graveyard. It's one of my favorite places to go. And I'm that bitch that grew up going to graveyards. Sorry. Sorry about it. Um, and I just love seeing the ornate, beautiful statues and remembrances of family members. Um, I love walking through and recognizing names that are now names of buildings on the UW campus. Um, and I love in the fall, the way the sunlight hits the trees just right and it creates this very etherial lighting. It's just beautiful. I've got a couple of really fun pictures I've taken, so I'll put some of those, um, in the show notes for y'all to take a look at. It's beautiful there. I love it. And if you ever have the chance to come to Madison, especially in the fall, um, stop at Forest Hill Cemetery. Explore and you'll never know who you'll run into. Maybe me. [goofy spooky laughter] That's it for this episode. Next episode we're going to be talking about Earth Day, so stay tuned to that because Earth Day was started by a Wisconsinite and it's amazing. Have a great and wonderful fortnight! You just listened to the Spooky Sconnie podcast. It is produced every two weeks by me, Kirsten Schultz. The intro, outro music is from Purple Plant. 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Camp Douglas’ deadly reputation was kept in shadows but now there’s a surprising movement to bring it to light.

Episode 28: Lincoln Park Cemetery, Chicago Jay walks us through the story of the history of Lincoln Park Cemetery… I mean, Lincoln Park. I mean, Lincoln Park Zoo. I mean, your $850K condo on Webster. (There are bodies beneath the foundation. SORRY!) Whatever. Lincoln Park. (Cccceeemetery!) *** Whooooo, Boooo-- GAG-- SHOTS! SHOTS! SHOTS! *** This story contains: 1. In 1837, the state of Illinois gave Chicago a piece of land outside the city limits to use as a burial ground. (Interesting?) 2. In July of 1854 – in a six day period - more than 200 cholera victims were buried in the Potter's Field. (Near all the bars bros love!) 3. This includes the nearly 4,000 Confederate soldiers who died at Camp Douglas and were buried in Potter's Field. (Those tingles are more than sweet Phish riffs!) 4. A researcher estimates more than 35,000 people were buried in the area. (That’s like if the entire U of I was dead and buried beneath you!) 5. 145 of the bodies lie clustered together at the north end of the baseball field, 130 by 200 feet in dimensions. (That’s why your Indiana University intramural softball team is cursed!) Sweet Dreams XOXOZzzz.

Camp Douglas’ deadly reputation was kept in shadows but now there’s a surprising movement to bring it to light.