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After almost two decades in limbo, Michael Pack's once-rejected Iraq War film finds its moment — a reminder that even the most supposedly “patriotic” war stories reveal the tragic cost of battle.Seventeen years after PBS rejected his Iraq War documentary The Last 600 Meters as “too pro-military,” conservative filmmaker Michael Pack is finally seeing it air — fittingly, on Veterans Day weekend. Pack reflects on why he believes documentaries are the “second draft of history,” why every war film is, at its core, an anti-war film, and how America's shifting attitudes toward the military say as much about our politics as our wars.1. History's second draft.Pack sees documentaries as the “second draft of history,” a way to capture the ground truth before time erases memory — not to debate the causes or meanings of war, but to record what it actually felt like to fight.2. Too pro-military for 2008, perfect for 2025.PBS first rejected The Last 600 Meters as “too pro-military.” Seventeen years later, the network is airing it before Veterans Day — proof, Pack says, that America's cultural attitudes toward the military have shifted.3. A non-woke filmmaker's battle.Pack, long identified with the right, argues that the documentary world is dominated by the left. His new company, Palladium Pictures, trains “non-woke” filmmakers to tell stories that aren't polemical but still reflect a wider range of perspectives.4. Every war film is an anti-war film.For Pack, heroism and horror are inseparable. His Marines cross kill zones under fire, rescue the wounded, and witness the smell and trauma of war — “heroic and tragic,” he says, in the Kubrickian sense.5. America's unfinished war with itself.Pack's Iraq film and his upcoming documentary on the Afghan withdrawal reflect what he calls “the failure of American elites.” From Vietnam to Afghanistan, he argues, the question remains: can America still fight and win wars?Keen On America is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit keenon.substack.com/subscribe
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Robert McNamara's Encounter with an Anti-War Mob. Professor William Taubman of Amherst College discusses his new book, McNamara at War, covering an episode from 1967 or 1968. Robert McNamara traveled to Harvard Yard to speak with professors and students. There, he encountered an anti-war mob. Taubman recounts the surprising events that unfolded, noting the incident is remembered vividly.
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In this episode, Sean and James discuss the complex and multifaceted anti-Vietnam War movement in the United States and around the world.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Scott interviews Ted Snider about where things stand with the war in Ukraine and the recent Russian incursions into NATO airspace. Discussed on the show: “For Both Ukraine and Russia, Compromise Aligns With Necessity” (Antiwar.com) “Why Were There Russian Drones Over Poland?” (Antiwar.com) Ted Snider is a Fellow at The Libertarian Institute. He has a graduate degree in philosophy and writes on analyzing patterns in U.S. foreign policy and history. He is a regular writer for Truthout, MondoWeiss and antiwar.com. To support Ted's work, you can make a PayPal contribution at tedsnider14@gmail.com. For more on Scott's work: Check out The Libertarian Institute: https://www.libertarianinstitute.org Check out Scott's other show, Provoked, with Darryl Cooper https://youtube.com/@Provoked_Show Read Scott's books: Provoked: How Washington Started the New Cold War with Russia and the Catastrophe in Ukraine https://amzn.to/47jMtg7 (The audiobook of Provoked is being published in sections at https://scotthortonshow.com) Enough Already: Time to End the War on Terrorism: https://amzn.to/3tgMCdw Fool's Errand: Time to End the War in Afghanistan https://amzn.to/3HRufs0 Follow Scott on X @scotthortonshow And check out Scott's full interview archives: https://scotthorton.org/all-interviews This episode of the Scott Horton Show is sponsored by: Roberts and Roberts Brokerage Incorporated https://rrbi.co Moon Does Artisan Coffee https://scotthorton.org/coffee; Tom Woods' Liberty Classroom https://www.libertyclassroom.com/dap/a/?a=1616 and Dissident Media https://dissidentmedia.com You can also support Scott's work by making a one-time or recurring donation at https://scotthorton.org/donate/ https://scotthortonshow.com or https://patreon.com/scotthortonshow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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PREVIEW:: This source details President Franklin D. Roosevelt's covert strategy to maneuver the United States into supporting Great Britain despite strong domestic anti-war resistance, and the ideological clash this caused with Charles Lindbergh. America First: Roosevelt vs. Lindbergh in the Shadow of War Hardcover – September 24, 2024 by H. W. Brands (Author) 1941 Roosevelt's Covert Strategy: Roosevelt was highly committed to Churchill and intended to bring the U.S. in on the British side. Since he could not openly support intervention due to resistance from Lindbergh, Congress, and the anti-war movement, Roosevelt utilized a highly confidential strategy. He managed an influence-peddling operation designed to prepare the American people for war against the "Hitlerites in Europe" and the "Imperial Japanese Navy and Army in the Pacific." Roosevelt maintained secret correspondence with Churchill; the American public was unaware that Rooseveltwas planning with Churchill on how they would fight together should war occur. Roosevelt had morally sided with the British but told Churchill it would take time to bring the American people around politically. He brought in covert operators from Great Britain. The administration gave its covert blessing to a large-scale British propaganda effort directed by William Stephenson in America. Stephenson's goal was explicitly to move American public opinion to the side of Britain. Stephenson's crew, channeled to Roosevelt via William Donovan, employed standard propaganda techniques, such as planting unacknowledged stories and arranging for rumors to appear and be confirmed by other rumors. The source highlights the hypocrisy of the administration engaging in this manipulation while simultaneously "complaining bitterly against the Germans for attempting to do the very same thing." Ideological Conflict: Imperialism vs. Democracy: Roosevelt recognized that the interests of Britain were "not identical to the interests of the United States." Roosevelt's public rationale for aiding Britain was that the U.S. would be "aiding democracy." Lindbergh "calls him out on this," arguing that aiding Britain meant "aiding imperialism." Lindbergh questioned whether Americans should fight to defend the British Empire, asking if American soldiers would go to "defend British rule in India." Churchill is characterized as the "most unreconstructed of British imperialists" who was determined to defend the British Empire, a goal Roosevelt had no desire to pursue.
This week, we read and discussed an article about a phenomenon that apparently some people are, or were, concerned about: the problem of fascist infiltration of the anti-war movement. We discuss the problems inherent in gatekeeping social movements and the lack of left-wing organizations of any size. We also chime in on the overblown concerns about "Red-Brownism."Send us a message (sorry we can't respond on here). Support the showVisit the Regrettable Century Merch Shop
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This episode is my third interview on democracy. In this episode my guest and I will be discussing the Movement Action Plan or MAP model for organizing social movements that enable a group of citizens to create change in our culture and in our country through changes in our national, state, and local governments. This model is outlined in the book, Doing Democracy: The MAP Model for Organizing Social Movements by Bill Moyer, JoAnn McAllister, Mary Lou Finley, and Steven Soifer. Bill Moyer is not to be confused by the famous journalist and television personality, Bill Moyers with an 's' on the end of his last name. Bill Moyer, the originator and developer of the MAP model for social movement organizing, was for over forty years a social change activist, community organizer, and educator. Alas, Bill passed away in 2002, but the co-authors of the book are still very much alive, and Dr. JoAnn McAllister has graciously agreed to be my guest for this conversation. Dr. McAllister is an interdisciplinary social science educator and researcher. Her work is grounded in a systems perspective and focuses on the role of culture in shaping individual and social beliefs, attitudes, and behaviors. Her focus is on understanding how these shape our perceptions and actions, and applying these concepts can help us to understand contemporary social problems. She believes that in knowing our own story and learning to listen to the stories of others we can collaborate more effectively to promote positive social change. She has worked with many non-profits, community organizations, and government agencies in the development of education programs related to criminal justice, at-risk youth, and the environment. She is the co-author of Doing Democracy: The MAP Model for Organizing Social Movements written by Bill Moyer (2001) and has been engaged in numerous activities to create positive social change over the years, including Anti-War, Sanctuary, Food Security, and Environmental groups. She is working on a new project and book, Still Doing Democracy: Finding Common Ground and Acting for the Common Good. Her current focus is on training engaged citizens, community advocates, and social change activities to develop more effective collaborative skills to further positive social change. The intro and outro music for this episode is from a clip of a song called 'Father Let Your Kingdom Come' which is found on The Porter's Gate Worship Project Work Songs album and is used by permission by The Porter's Gate Worship Project.
We discuss the basics of organizing and the fruits of that work. Michael reminds us that “organizers organize organizations.” Michael's civic action toolkit recommendations are: 1) Gather 4-5 friends to talk about what's happening 2) Share ideas on what you can do to resist Michael Ansara is a seasoned community organizer and the author of The Hard Work of Hope: A Memoir. Let's connect! Follow Future Hindsight on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/futurehindsightpod/ Discover new ways to #BetheSpark: https://www.futurehindsight.com/spark Follow Mila on X: https://x.com/milaatmos Follow Michael on BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/michaelansara.bsky.social Read The Hard Work of Hope: https://bookshop.org/shop/futurehindsight Sponsor: Thank you to Shopify! Sign up for a $1/month trial at shopify.com/hopeful. Early episodes for Patreon supporters: https://patreon.com/futurehindsight Credits: Host: Mila Atmos Guests: Michael Ansara Executive Producer: Mila Atmos Producer: Zack Travis
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Turn online alignment into an offline community — join us at TheWayFwrd.com to connect with like-minded people near you. It's the best way to support this podcast and the movement we're building together: https://thewayfwrd.com/join/ Scott Horton joins Alec for a conversation on U.S. foreign policy and the history behind the Israel-Palestine conflict. He shares how decades of interviews and research shaped his perspective on America's role in global affairs, highlighting overlooked incidents like the USS Liberty, the impact of Cold War alliances, and the narratives that drive modern geopolitics. They also discuss how information overload and AI complicate public understanding, and why education and awareness are essential for navigating truth in today's world. For more details, links, timestamps and resources mentioned in this episode, visit our website: https://thewayfwrd.com/podcast/ep-188-examining-u-s-geopolitics-israel-palestine-with-scott-horton/ Resources and Links Libertarian Institute – https://libertarianinstitute.org/ Antiwar.com – https://antiwar.com Scott Horton Show – https://scotthorton.org Scott Horton Academy – https://scotthortonacademy.com Related Links & References Fool's Errand by Scott Horton – https://foolserrand.us Provoked by Scott Horton – https://www.amazon.com/Provoked-Washington-Started-Catastrophe-Ukraine/dp/1733647376 Treacherous Alliance by Trita Parsi – https://archive.org/details/treacherous-alliance-trita-parsi/page/n203/mode/1up A Pretext for War by James Bamford – https://archive.org/details/pretextforwar91100bamf/mode/1upProvoked Podcast with Scott Horton & Darryl Cooper – https://provoked.show The Way Forward podcast is sponsored by: New Biology Clinic: Redefine Health from the Ground Up Experience tailored terrain-based health services with consults, livestreams, movement classes, and more. Visit https://NewBiologyClinic.com and use code TheWayForward for $50 off activation. Way Forward members get the fee waived: https://thewayfwrd.com/membership-sign-up/ ————————— RMDY Collective: Homeopathy Made Accessible High-quality remedies and training to support natural healing. Enroll: https://rmdyacademy.org/?bg_ref=MKho6KZowa Explore: https://rmdycollective.org/?bg_ref=MKho6KZowa ————————— LOTUSWEI: Transform Your Energy with Flower Essences Unlike essential oils, flower essences work on the energetic level to balance emotions. Shop: https://lotuswei.com — use code ALEC10 for 10% off. Way Forward members: email hello@thewayfwrd.com for 20% off first order + 10% ongoing. —————————
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