Podcasts about dealing with tragedy

03 Dealing With Tragedy by New Grace

Life isn't always fun and easy. If we live long enough, we will experience tragedies. So in this episode I go over 4 Biblical Truths about Tragedies that I hope and pray will help you (the listener) have a better understanding of them and can therefore successfully navigate them. In a future episode I will discuss more on how to actually cope/grieve through tragedies. If you found this podcast beneficial, please take a minute to leave a review and then share it with someone whom you think can benefit from it. Follow me on Instagram at: Micah - https://www.instagram.com/micahmurphree You can contact me by email: micahmurphree@gmail.com If you want to see more about me and my crazy family, check out our family vlog here(Murph Squad Family): https://www.youtube.com/@MurphSquad And if you would like to financially support this ministry and podcast; you can do so at Patreon.  Here is the link: https://www.patreon.com/micahmurphree

Welcome to this week's episode where we're joined by Aideen McCanny who tells us about her journey to parenthood. This episode contains content that some listeners may find distressing. https://littleforgetmenotstrust.com/ Tickets for Diona's shows available here - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/dionadoherty/⁠⁠

11.15.23 Pam Cook is joined by Dr. Stan Anderson with the latest in health and wellness.

In this episode, we discuss navigating life's most challenging moments. Many feel unprepared for adulthood and its complexities, but it's vital to realize that we all have the capacity to grow and learn. Today's focus is not on basic life skills but on confronting life's adversities with emotional intelligence and coping strategies, emphasizing the importance of boundaries, perspective, integrity, and discernment. The grieving process and its stages are explored, highlighting the necessity of self-care and acceptance. Drawing strength from personal beliefs and connections helps in healing, and understanding that pain is transient provides solace. Join us for a meditative chant, channeling peace and happiness for all. Thank you for supporting this show by supporting our sponsors: https://www.emotionalbadass.com/sponsors Resources we offer: Free Morning Routine PDF to help conquer your day! https://www.emotionalbadass.com/morning-routine Community & Exclusive Bonus Episodes & Video: https://www.patreon.com/emotionalbadass 30 Days to Peace Course: https://www.EmotionalBadass.com/peace CODE: BADASS for 30% Off The Boundaries Course: https://www.EmotionalBadass.com/boundaries Join our newsletter for weekly wellness emails where we share mental health tips, announcements, discount codes, and highlight past episodes: https://www.emotionalbadass.com/newsletter Check out our Guided Meditations narrated by Nikk: https://www.emotionalbadass.com/store/meditations Follow us on Social Media: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/emotionalbadass IG: https://www.instagram.com/emotional.badass FB: https://www.facebook.com/emotionalbadass TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@emotionalbadass Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/emotionalbadass Please contact sales@advertisecast.com if you would like to advertise on our podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A military attorney explains the importance of recent letters of censure issued by the Secretary of the Navy over the Red Hill fuel contamination; Kaiser Permanente Hawaiʻi offers free classes entitled "Parenting After Tragedy"; this week's Manu Minute highlights the ʻōʻū, a native bird that hasn't been seen in the wild in decades; and Hawaiʻi Public Radio President and General Manager José Fajardo shares a health update, living with amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS)

On Friday's Rugby Daily, Richie McCormack brings you the latest from South Africa ahead of Ireland's World U20 semi-final with the Baby Boks. We hear from head coach Richie Murphy on how they've dealt with tragedy, and what they expect from Sunday's opponents. Alun Wyn Jones is off to play in France, there's a test debutant for the All Blacks in Mendoza tomorrow, and Luke Cowan Dickie (finally) has a new club.

Tracey Hayes is one of the most recognisable names and faces in the Northern Territory.  There's not much she can't or won't do. She's been named one of Australia's most influential women, was the first female CEO of the NT Cattleman's Association, and led the charge in the class action against the Commonwealth fighting for compensation after the live cattle ban. She holds positions on countless boards, and also runs her own successful business out of Alice Springs. On top of all that, she's a mum to four boys who are all sixth generation Territorians. Her story of success on the corporate ladder is not without tragedy in her personal life, as Tracey tells us how fate twists and turns in the most unexpected and devastating ways. An open and honest chat with a woman who has faced adversity and fought to oth and nail for the place and people she loves and calls home.

Today's episode is going to be a little bit different. I had another topic scheduled for this week, but I want to talk about dealing with difficult moments that life deals us when we get sober.   This is very fresh for me as someone I love very much had a massive loss in their life this morning.  Here is the thing, life can be tough at times.  Tragedy doesn't stop just because we got sober.  We just have to learn to deal with it in different and hopefully healthier ways.  One of the greatest gifts in sobriety is being able to show up completely for people in our lives and being able to support them when they need it the most.I will talk in this episode about how I navigate life's biggest challenges and how I dealt with my day today.

Karel Cast Podcast #175 Biggest Crime In USA; Don't Fear AI; Dealing with Tragedy After watching Flint Patrol on Netflix, Nightwatch on A&E and countless other cop shows I have discovered the biggest crime in America: Poverty. And it is punishable by law. Everone is afraid of AI, why I have no fear of it whatsoever; and a little too close to a tragedy for comfort as a plane goes down in Nevada. Watch on YouTube and listen wherever you get your podcast. Subscribe at YouTube.com/reallykarel @ReallyKarel is all social media and website reallykarel.com The Karel Cast is heard three times a week on all your favorite streaming services and the video can be seen on Youtube. Karel is a history-making #LGBTQ talk show host currently living in Las Vegas with his pup Ember. The Karel Cast App is free and is the best way to watch and listen. Get it at reallykarel.com or any App Store https://youtu.be/XnPYw9ws76A

Karel Cast Podcast #175 Biggest Crime In USA; Don't Fear AI; Dealing with Tragedy After watching Flint Patrol on Netflix, Nightwatch on A&E and countless other cop shows I have discovered the biggest crime in America: Poverty. And it is punishable by law. Everone is afraid of AI, why I have no fear of it whatsoever; and a little too close to a tragedy for comfort as a plane goes down in Nevada. Watch on YouTube and listen wherever you get your podcast. Subscribe at YouTube.com/reallykarel @ReallyKarel is all social media and website reallykarel.com The Karel Cast is heard three times a week on all your favorite streaming services and the video can be seen on Youtube. Karel is a history-making #LGBTQ talk show host currently living in Las Vegas with his pup Ember. The Karel Cast App is free and is the best way to watch and listen. Get it at reallykarel.com or any App Store

This is a very special episode for me...here we are at 100, I started the Podcast with my blood brother Ryan and now I record episode 100 with my Soul Brother since 7th grade who's been there with me through every leg of this wild journey.From an iphone in my parents kitchen to my own little podcast home studio in Bozeman we finally arrive at episode 100 after 3 years of being on the airwaves.Big thanks to all of you who have supported and been a part of the Follow Your Path Community over there years I appreciate and love you all. AND...it's just the beginning. Big things to come this year...We get into lots of good stuff in this one from dealing with intense tragedies, meeting  his mother for the first time in over 20 YEARS, overcoming severe depression, and maintaining a powerful sense of humor throughout the process and continuing to shine the light.

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There's been a horrible spate of accidents over the last two weeks which have resulted in lives lost. In this episode I talk about ways in coping with loss, and the importance of maintaining training and talking about topics repeatedly.Support the showEmail: info@trentrobinsonaviation.com.au Facebook: http://www.facebook.com.au/trentrobinsonaviation Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/trent_robinson_aviation YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@flighttrainingaustraliaPodcast Episodes: http://www.flighttrainingaustralia.com.au

Here, in Episode #54, my guest is the owner of Cohesive Counseling Associates in Charlotte, and the author of several books, including Blessed Passenger and Your Invitation to Self-Care, Dr. Melissa Tate-Scruse. In the wake of the University of Virgina and the University of Idaho tragedies, Dr. Tate-Scruse and I discuss how those two universities, and the surrounding communities, deal with those tragedies. We discuss the available resources and services that are available to, not only those associated with the universities, but the community at-large, to help cope. Dr. Tate-Scruse and I discuss the impact the University of Virginia case had and will continue to have on the sports world given those victims were athletes.Dr. Tate-Scruse offers her always great professional insight, knowledge and advice to help those who may need assistance dealing with any kind of tragedy and/or loss. In the end, I offer my 'Three Takeaways' to help anyone in need of assistance.As always, thanks for listening, take care.For merchandise, go to www.samifiedcraftsshop.com  

Many of us ask this question, Why is the world filled with suffering? Especially on a day like today, September 11, it is easy to get overwhelmed with tragedy.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Life is full of difficult times. How we navigate those difficult times determines our future. Everyone has them regardless of who you are. Everyone. And just like anything, there will be varying levels of difficulty. Hopefully none of us will have to experience the pain that Eliza's family has experienced. Or the families of the victims of the shooting what they are experiencing. That's, in my opinion, as bad as it gets. The families in these tragedies will have to heal and it's going to take time. Lots of it. They will find a way to do that. The other option is not to heal and let it break you and people would understand if that happened as well. But we are so resilient. Think about how many things you have survived and here you are listening to a podcast still wanting to be the best version of yourself. I bet there have been moments that you didn't think you'd make it through and you did. But we have to determine what we are going to make the tragedy mean for us. Are we going to let the bad guys win and curl up in a ball and hide? I hope not. heidi@heididawson.com

There aren't many of us that manage to get through our life without experiencing some form of tragedy. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dave Rubin of “The Rubin Report” reflects on the school shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde,Texas. The last few years have been extremely difficult, and it feels like we lurch from crisis to crisis. Dave discusses some practical, sensible measures that we can all implement in our lives. He explains how a focus on building local communities and supporting local economies can have untold community benefits. We may not be able to stop the difficult times, but working together, we can become more resilient to the challenges we face as a nation. Today's Sponsors: Policygenius - Head to https://policygenius.com/RUBIN to get your free life insurance quotes and see how much you could save. Alto CryptoIRA - Ready to take your investments to the next level? With an Alto CryptoIRA, you can trade crypto like Bitcoin, and avoid or defer the taxes. Open an Alto CryptoIRA with as little as $10. Go to https://www.altoira.com/RUBIN Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dean Holden & Danielle NichollsIn this week's podcast, we get to talk to married couple Dean Holden and Danielle Nicholls. Danielle is an English TV presenter, radio host, model, and singer, best known for presenting on CITV. Dean is an ex-professional footballer and the current first-team assistant manager at Stoke City having previously managed Bristol City. Together they have five children. Danielle and Dean faced every parent's worst nightmare with the loss of their 17-month-old daughter Cici.We speak to Dean and Daniel aboutTheir careersTransitioning from working to becoming a Mum and then being a working mumDealing with tragedy Grief Moving forwardsFor more information on The Summit Foundation please visit our website www.thesummitfoundation.co.uk or on socials thesummit_fdn thanks for listening.Audio production by airaphonSupport the show

As we enter a new year, we struggle with a number of losses in the wake of a new COVID wave; having lost family and friends to the virus, AG discusses the impact with members of the medical community; this news article prompts a deeper discussion about what we can do better (https://www.cleveland.com/news/2021/12/i-dont-know-how-much-more-we-can-take-northeast-ohio-health-care-providers-reveal-whats-happening-within-hospital-walls.html); PLEASE EXCUSE THE AUDIO! We're almost there!! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/a7g3/message

As we enter a new year, we struggle with a number of losses in the wake of a new COVID wave; having lost family and friends to the virus, AG discusses the impact with members of the medical community; this news article prompts a deeper discussion about what we can do better (https://www.cleveland.com/news/2021/12/i-dont-know-how-much-more-we-can-take-northeast-ohio-health-care-providers-reveal-whats-happening-within-hospital-walls.html); PLEASE EXCUSE THE AUDIO! We're almost there!!--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/a7g3/message

Despite Christmas being a cheerful time of year, many people find the holidays very depressing. Shelly experienced tragedy on Mother's Day when her son Jonathan passed away. During this episode, Shelly Hamilton gives tips on how to deal with tragedy, sadness, and trials during the holidays. She highlights the value of speaking the truth to […] The post Tips for Dealing with Tragedy, Sadness, & Poor Health Over the Holidays. appeared first on Intelligent Investing.

This week, Ben and Josh take on the heavier subject of tragedy.  How do we deal with it as Christians?  How do we respond?  How do we support our friends and family?  Let's talk about it.

I invite you to look around your life and think about the optimism that plays a role in the people around you. Find two people who are important to you that you can look up to and be inspired by. Text me! at 972-426-2640 so I can share your story.  DM me! Twitter:  @elliottspeaksInstagram: @ellliottspeaks

On this episode, locations manager Bruce Brownstein and Maureen McGrath talk about the accidental shooting of a prop gun and the the tragic loss of a young mother and brilliant cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on a film set in New Mexico. How can people move on from that tragedy? Therapist Mark Smith joins to tell you how. Also, did you know that 17% of Canadians suffer with Atopic Dermatitis? Dr. Jaggi Rao joins to discuss the latest treatment options. Plus, how do you take your sex life from meh to mahvelous? Sex coach Tiffany Yelverton describes exactly how you can. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In the series, "When Was The Last Time You Talked To ..."  We took on a difficult conversation.  In this show we discuss the idea of how we talk to people that are dealing with tragedy.  Whether it is death, sickness, or loss, it is sometimes very difficult to know how to approach people in these situations.  However, as a Strong Dad and a Christ follower, we are called to be involved and to help those in need. In this episode Hutch and Kyle bring in special guest, Jeff Duerler.  Jeff is a pastor at Life Spring Community Church.  He has been pastoring a church for nearly 20 years.  In this job it is common to be helping people through difficult times.  But, what happens when the difficult times fall onto your own family.  Jeff shares the difficult story of losing his 16 year old daughter, Kayla, in a driving accident in October of 2018.  Needless to say this was a tragedy that rocked Jeff's world. Jeff gives us candid and first-hand conversation about how he has walked and continues to walk through these dark days.  He explains some of the things he found to be very helpful and others that were not so helpful. Jeff gives us an understanding of how to help those suffering from tragedy.  There are such things as the right things to say and do as well as the wrong things to say and do.  But mostly, we help people by letting them know we care. Letting them know that we have their back. We are there to help.  If you are going through a difficult loss yourself or know someone who is, this show is packed with incredible hope and guidance.  Please listen and share to all that need to hear this message. If you are struggling through a difficult time, please contact Rock Solid Families at; www.rocksolidfamilies.orgSupport the show (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=R4Q39E32XTBEC)

Construction sites can sometimes be a tough place to be as a person of faith. From topical situations like salty language, questionable behavior, and ethics violations, to more severe issues like anxiety and depression, grief, drug and alcohol abuse, domestic violence, suicide and other issues that come up, not just on the jobsite, but in many areas of life. Brother Steven Bell, Pastor of Way of the Cross Baptist Church in McDonough, GA joins Talkin' Trades to talk about the role of faith on the jobsite, among peers on the jobs, and living out ones faith while on the job. Brother Steven came up through the trades as an IUEC Elevator Operator and knows this all to well. Today he shares his story with us in a compelling episode of Talkin' Trades. If you need help or want to talk, you can reach Steven at: http://www.wotcmcdonough.org/Address: 1640 Mt Carmel Rd, McDonough, GA 30253 Phone: (770) 305-9047 04:57 - How do you deal with language and actions that are in direct conflict with your faith on the jobsite? 11:44 - How receptive are employers to people of faith on the job? 17:20 - Brother Steven shares his story and his walk 21:10 - How he dealt with tragedy 22:35 - Tools to deal with tragedy 27:43 - Dealing with the stress of COVID, guilt of the survivors, etc. 29:57 - How do you comfort someone you work with who has experienced a tragedy? 33:47 - Is there any difference in how you would talk to someone who has experienced a tragedy of their own making vs. a tragedy outside of their control? 36:49 - How do you take that first step in self-help and who do you reach out to? 40:45 - What do you do when someone confides in a problem that you're not equipped to deal with (such as suicidal thoughts, domestic issues)? 44:10 - Are there online resources to help if you're not ready to talk to someone about something that is going on in your life?

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Have you ever been bothered with the question of why? The reason why tragedies happen ? Why bad things happen to good people? In light of the recent tragedy in Israel , Shlomo tries to help us deal with this question by giving another outlook.  Subscribe to Positive Perspectives by Shlomo. Two minutes to a happier life. For questions or comments please email RabbiShlomoKohn@gmail.com.To listen to Shlomo's other podcast on Pirkei Avos (Ethics of the Fathers) use this link-PirkeiAvosPodcast.buzzsprout.com.

Have you ever been bothered with the question of why? The reason why tragedies happen ? Why bad things happen to good people? In light of the recent tragedy in Israel , Shlomo tries to help us deal with this question by giving another outlook.  Subscribe to Positive Perspectives by Shlomo. Two minutes to a happier life. For questions or comments please email RabbiShlomoKohn@gmail.com.To listen to Shlomo's other podcast on Pirkei Avos (Ethics of the Fathers) use this link-PirkeiAvosPodcast.buzzsprout.com.

Are you ready to break free of anxiety, ground into a consistent meditation practice, find purpose and inner-peace?The Meditation School Podcast, hosted by David Gandelman, is full of short, direct strategies, tools, stories, and meditations, to guide you to a deep state of calmness and purpose. Get ready to laugh, let go, and enjoy the process of awakening to your authentic nature, without wasting any time.Try a FREE week of Meditation here: https://meditationschool.us/Links: Website: https://meditationschool.us/Grounded Sleep Podcast: www.t.ly/fAN2Instagram: www.t.ly/BdlLSpotify: www.t.ly/s4jdEnergy Matters Interviews: www.t.ly/v5gkFacebook: www.t.ly/anLqInsight Timer: www.t.ly/u7KbFREE Meditation Trainings: www.t.ly/9a74

Connect with Michael Moore and Bob WieremaThe Climb on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-climb-podcast/Bob Wierema: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-wierema/Michael Moore: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelpmoore/Connect with Brendan DeelyGabriel's Light: https://www.gabrielslight.org/Brendan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bdeely/Banner Solutions: https://bannersolutions.com/TheClimb_BrendanDeely[00:00:00] Brendan Deely: Let me tell you a problem. You go from 2.6 billion to 1.1 billion in a year in sales. That's a problem. Bob Wierema: Wow. Brendan Deely: That was a problem. So, we had to go from 5,500 people to 2,100, close a hundred facilities, and just try to stop the cash burn. And so that was the business – fight or flight. I'm all in and it said online, the Dragon Slayer, you ever see that Teddy Roosevelt speech  about people just basically saying, “if I die, I'm going to die knowing that at least I was in the arena.” All these naysayer and bullshit sideliners who don't do anything. Bob Wierema: Welcome to The Climb: Crossroads and Defining Moments. Today, Brendan Deely joins Michael and myself for conversation about business, about his family, about some of his personal trials and tribulations and how he got through them.Brendan's an amazing friend of mine, a mentor, and just a hell of a guy. You're definitely going to enjoy this episode of The Climb. Thanks for joining us.Brandon Deely, welcome to The Climb. We appreciate you joining Michael and me today. Brendan Deely: And to be here. Bob Wierema: You know, this is a fun one for me. Brendan, you and I started in working together through business and since, it's turned into a personal relationship. That means a lot to me in a lot of different ways. We'll talk about that a little bit, but I think a good way to kind of kick things off is giving us the overview of who is Brendan Deely? Brendan Deely: Well, thanks Bob. It's been a hell of a relationship that we've built and continue to build. I'm glad to be here and tell you a little bit about me and maybe how I think about [00:02:00] things.So, Brendan Deely, I'm a husband, and I'm a father to five first and foremost. I really liked building things, businesses, teams, to good outcomes. I don't have all the answers and I don't want to. And so, I think it's how do you leverage people? How do you deal with things truthfully? And I think I've learned over the years that it's just hit things head on and be real and there's always a way out, and to never, ever give up, I think I've found out over time that there's that fight or flight. I don't run. And I think I always want to win. I don't always win, but God damnit I go into everything wanting to kick ass and win. And so, there's just a mentality. I see people that just meander through their careers and  just incredibly boring for me. I think the only thing you'd do to wreck a business is do nothing. Michael Moore: Sounds like he's got a little Texas in him. Bob Wierema: I was hoping that we were going to be able to avoid the Texas comment, but it took all of about two minutes for it to come into the conversation from Michael. Michael Moore: Just born and bred, baby. Brendan Deely: I was born an army brat. I was an army captain for a couple of years. And then I've been in kind of building materials for 30 years almost. So, some of those toolkits have helped me kind of move through my career. Bob Wierema: When you're an army brat, Brendan, as you say, what does that mean? Were you guys traveling a lot when you were a kid, were you guys all over the place? Give maybe a little background there and growing up in that type of world? Brendan Deely: I was the youngest of six, and we're six and a half years apart, so good Irish stock. So [00:04:00] my dad did three tours in Vietnam. I didn't really know him until I was five. Didn't have that as a problem, but it just what it was. I was born in the U.S., moved to Germany, moved to Brazil, moved to Panama, left the U.S. when I was three, came back when I was 12, 13. I don't watch a lot on TV because of that, because it was never in my language.And I think if you're in an environment where you move a lot as a kid, I think you're going to go two paths: introvert or extrovert. And so, I've always found it pretty easy to talk to people. I've always found when you moved into a new place, you meet the dorks first because they're starving for friends, and then you move it forward. But I mean, I didn't know any different, but I think that's helped me. When I went to college, it was kind of a non-event, but the people that lived in their same town just went crazy, I had my versions of fun too, but it's a good background. And I think it gives me a perspective that most Americans don't realize that there's other countries that have far worse issues, and we have two sons adopted from Ethiopia. So, it's just the whole perspective is healthy. I think a lot of times people see poor countries and they're frankly, some of the happiest people I've met because they don't have anything but faith and  food. We can break an ATM card and everybody's triggered for a day.So, it's just keeping balanced, I think is good. Bob Wierema: You mentioned you're one of six. So where is everybody today? And were you close brothers and sisters? You mentioned some people down in Texas.Brendan Deely: My mother's still alive. She's 86 in Philly. My twin sister is in Philadelphia as well. And then I have a sister and a brother in the Dallas area. And then two brothers outside of DC in Virginia. So, we've gone West [00:06:00] as it were, but still very close. And it was kind of cool with you're a kid when you move in – I had three older brothers. I'm six foot. They're both six foot four. So, we came in, we took over the neighborhood. We had every kind of coverage. And if you want to bug me, I got some big guys behind me. It was pretty cool, but it was really close now. But one of the things that's come out of this whole COVID gong show is we do a weekly zoom calls with my mother, with all of us. So, it's how you do immediate bingo with my wife's mother and family.We never did that, so we're talking a hell of a lot more than and seeing each other more than we ever did. So, there's always good that comes out of bad. Bob Wierema: And then you mentioned you did some time in the army, right? Was that after college? Before? Where did that fall in that spectrum?Brendan Deely: It was after college. I went to ROTC. I had a four-year scholarship and I went to basic training when I was 18. So, I was in the reserves while I was in school, but I got commissioned in 1988 and I'm an infantry officer and – at 22 years old – here's 40 guys for you to take care of.Well, okay. They're all mostly older than me, but  had some good success. I was stationed at Fort Bragg and then Fort Drum and then reserved for a little bit, but we were activated for desert storm. Ready to go, and I was a company commander at the time, so I had 210 people. I'm  25, 26?You do all this training and you're prepared for it – and then it gets real. Live ammo, here we go. And so, we were down at Fort Bragg, ready to go and the air war [00:08:00] hit. And then they said that the tanks and the cabin, it was basically over in two weeks. So, we didn't go. I was willing to go and, but I was okay not to go, but it was a huge amount of responsibility at 26 years old.And I think that's where I really learned. And the military is the same rank structure and organization design as it was a hundred years ago. So, I think of all the companies that dick around with organizations all the time; hospitals, military and universities are kind of stuck with what works.Throughout my career I've been leading functions or businesses where I was on the lower end of the age. But I think that's where you're going to lean on the. It's just, how do we get this thing together? And when bullets start flying are they going to shoot you or they're going to run with you? And so, it's, how do you leverage people's capabilities? I still ref soccer. I sent a message out to our team when COVID first hit. And I said, “this is like a good soccer team. It only has 11 positions. And you got to put a center midfielder and a striker position. You're going to suck. If you get the right people in the right positions, you're really going to do well”. And then the key is sometimes working with people to let them see that, “this is not really what you're best at. And I can put you in this role and give you the latitude to do what you need to do”.It's usually pretty amazing how people don't want them to be micromanaged. I'm fair, but firm in how I approach things, but I'll give you an avenue to work because – especially in business – people report to me as a CEO, they're not making 50 grand a year. They should be able to do what's necessary and if [00:10:00] they need help, reach out and I'll be there, but I just approach it that we're all adults and make a good call and adjust on the fly.They're always saying it in the military that you can come up with a plan and there's this thing called net T mission, enemy time terrain, as far as planning. And they do all the shit and then it all is great until you start moving and then you've just gotta adjust. You gotta have a plan, you gotta have a strategy, but you gotta be fluid and just keep moving. Michael Moore: So, you really feel like the training and the perspective you gained with your time in the army carries forward into your approach to business and building companies and managing teams? It seems like there's a lot of parallels there for you.Brendan Deely: I do.I think it's especially in a private equity environment, which I've been in for the last two years. I think they get a bad notion, right? So, if it's a growth equity private equity firm, and they're great, they're looking to grow the business. They're looking to invest; they're looking to us to have a strategy and to execute the strategy.And so, there's other ones that turn around, “I'm not interested in that, I want to grow businesses. I'll deal with things if I have to”, but I think it's zero failure mission all the time. We might get wounded, we might get hurt, but let's keep the end in mind and bob and weave as we need to, but we've got to deliver the goods. And so, they're getting people who see that, who feel like they're part of the solution – it is great. Because I've bought enough businesses – about 29 companies throughout my career. If there's a dominating personality running the business, I got no use for it. If you have a dominating strategy, I'd [00:12:00] rather have that over a dominating personality because there's usually weak people below them or ‘yes people' and no creativity. And so, I think that's what the military forces on people as everybody has to play a role here. And that's what I try to do in my businesses.I'm a CEO, but if I have to make all the decisions, I got the wrong people. So, I think creating an environment where it's okay to speak your mind. Actually, I want it. But if you think something's wrong, you better have a pretty good idea how to fix it. Because we're not talking world hunger, we're talking about 7% more door hardware, and it's important, but I think it's that self-reflection of let's keep things in relative perspective. Bob Wierema: Brendan when your first bigger gig, when you started buying some more businesses that was at USG, right? Brendan Deely: Correct. Yeah. And so, I was there for 26 years, great company, Chicago based. I spent 26 years there, 12 of it on the manufacturing sheet rock you've heard of before, sealing a bunch of different roles, general manager roles. I moved over to the distribution business called LNW Supply, which is now owned by ABC Supply, and I had kind of a CEO role for a couple years. And then in 2002, at 36, I took over the business and it was 900 million in revenue at the time, basically operated East of the Rockies and 2,500 employees. And it been growing mostly through Greenfield expansion over the years, it was established in 1971, but we saw a real potential to consolidate this industry. And so, we put together a plan for the board of directors, got approval and in a little over two years, we acquired 15 companies, over [00:14:00] a billion dollars' worth of revenue, and it went from 900 million in 2002 to our peak year which was 2006 at 2.6 billion. 5,500 employees – so to pull that off and integrate the systems and the people and put people in the right roles, I have a good, great HR person, great operations people, great finance, and so I think sometimes the CEO gets too much credit.So many people make this thing happen. One of the things I didn't say before, when I was 19, I worked at a drywall yard and I loaded wallboard. I drove a truck; I operated a boom and I never lost sight of that's really the business. It's not the 18th floor. And so, it's the people out there operating around power lines every day and operating safely, not hurting themselves or other people. Safety was a huge part of that business. And I think it goes back to working on a firing range and using automatic weapons. It's just, that is such a core thing.You don't fuck with people. I mean, you've got to take care of them and you gotta treat them right, but yeah, it was a great run. We got to the peak and then the recession hit.  I was telling my team recently about COVID and all this stuff, which is real. I'm going to tell you a problem.You go from 2.6 billion to 1.1 billion in a year in sales, that's a problem. Those are problems. So, we had to go from 5,500 people to 2,100. Close 100 facilities and just try to stop the cash burn. And so that was kind of the business fight or flight. I'm all in, and it said that old line the Dragon Slayer. You ever see that Teddy [00:16:00] Roosevelt speech about people? It was basically saying if I die, I'm going to die knowing that at least I was in the arena. Naysayer bullshit side liners who don't do anything. Bob Wierema: Brendan during that time, how did you keep people motivated as you shed this many people off? In that role, you're talking, “hey, the CEO gets too much credit”, but at the end of the day, I gotta imagine you gotta be there to keep people around too. Brendan Deely: You're a little bit of bipolar, I think – we were in a meeting one time, we had made an agreement as a management team that we're going to take out 700 salary positions and there's back and forth with burning cash. We're doing all this stuff and we can't do that. So, I'm like, “guys, let's agree we got fucked here and let's get over it. We have got to save this business”.And so, they were short, and I said, “look, we agreed to this thing. It's not fun, but we have to do it. We got to get to the other side, three people have to leave fairly” and it was back and forth and I said, “look, you can either do it the right way, or we're going to oracle(?) and start with the letter S and start picking names. Because my first girlfriend was Susan. We can be that arbitrary”. And I hung up the phone and they did it, and that wasn't fun, but it needed to happen. And on the other side of that, when this was going on, I traveled a lot. I wanted to be out in the field and we had 42 locations in Florida and we ended up with eight. I remember I was out in Sacramento at a big facility and they were talking about what's going on and people are always like, “oh, are you done with the restructure rooms?”(?) I'm like, “I can't tell you that. What we see now, yes. But I'm not going to sit here and tell you, I can't, I gotta be honest with you”.And there's one lady accounting [00:18:00] person. She's like, “hey, how do you deal with it? How do you deal with the stress?” And I have always found humor is a part of me, and it helps cool things down. And I said, “look, I sleep like a baby”. I wake up from two in the morning crying, and I'd wet the bed. It's like, “hey, look, we're all in this thing. We all have to be honest about it,” but I had to let friends go, but I would say we'd laid off 3,200 people. We never had labor lawsuit. So, I was proud that we treated people the best we could in a horrible time.And we also dealt with Chinese wallboard at that time. Have you guys heard about that?Bob Wierema: Yeah, I remember that. Brendan Deely: So, we're the only company who fixed every house that we shipped to. Only one, we were the only company that wasn't part of the class action suit. And so, it's really tough times. What do you stand for?What do you stand for now? I think that was a beast, but you know what? We got through a breakeven point when we came out of this thing at 60% less volume than we did before. And that's everybody getting behind it. Michael Moore: Yeah, that's efficiencies, right? Brendan Deely: It is, and we restructured the whole company.We took layers out; we had three core principles. We got to mitigate the losses. We got to prepare for the upturn, and we have to think big. It can't incrementalize our way to losing. I remember in September of 2006, we lost $18 million that month. Imagine. And the fourth thing was, how do we change the rules in this industry?And so that's one thing that I've tried to do for the last couple of [00:20:00] companies is, where are the inefficiencies in the industry? Where are the points of differentiation? And to drive price into the third sentence, not the first. Service value proposition, team, all those things, because it's wallboard, it's door hardware.There's gotta be a reason why. Insurance: why do Bob and I have the relationship we do? It's execution. You're there. It's bringing ideas. It's saving money and it's giving a shit. That's pretty easy to see. And most times you don't Michael Moore: Brendan with 29 companies that you've been a part of the acquisition, are there some key themes, takeaways, a strategy that you've now developed over time so that you deploy that now every single time? Or is everyone different? Talk to us about the lessons learned in that, because that's a big number.Brendan Deely: Yeah, I would say most of them were pretty good and I almost put them in buckets. Just tuck in and you can run it, keep most of the team, and keep going.But what we call a cornerstone acquisition where we bought a business in 2005, 600 million in revenue and in 35 locations, but really had a great team below the people that were leading so that I think that's one of the keys. If there's no talent below the seller, you got no business. The biggest mistake I made was we bought a business in an area that we wanted to be in and it was a terrible culture. I mean, total opposite around safety, around financial controls and all these things that were kind of core to us. We wanted people to be entrepreneurs, but I always tell people, you can't be an entrepreneur with somebody else's money. But I want you to have the spirit of an [00:22:00] entrepreneur, but there's no rules.And so, we bought this business which had 16 locations in the auto industry, in the early 2000s, in the crapper and got enamored by the revenue and the market share and spent four or five years restructuring and putting in a new team. And it's a fine business now. But it wasn't a good use of capital and we should have really just put the flags up. So, culture kills it every time for me. And as you need a new facility or need to upgrade the team, you can do that, but when it's just diametrically opposed to how you believe you should operate, run. There's another business out there.Bob Wierema: How do you assess that as you're going through those acquisitions? Is it just during that diligence phase, getting to know folks and going on the floor? Brendan Deely: I think once you get a handle on the people below them, or you can get at it. And in the industries that I've operated in, you know, like [inaudible] business, or Walmart business, even the door hardware is just a great business. Everybody kind of knows everybody enough. You can tap into manufacturers in a non-direct way about how they operate, a word of mouth from customers… So, it's not that you have to do psychological interviews or anything like that, but I think once you get below that team that you're dealing with them seeing if there's some chaps there, that's why the diligence phase – we do try to do HR stuff early, before close. Bob Wierema: And Brendan, when you said culture a few times throughout, in your mind, as you're building these businesses, what does foster create a culture that you see is good?Brendan Deely: I'm trying to simplify it for me, is would I want to be part of this family personally? Would I want to live in a [00:24:00] house with these people personally? If there was some inland on the counter, a hundred bucks, would they take it or not? And so it's not so much the financial side of it.  I guess the best way to put it is when you read somebody's resume, it's what they've done. But I want to know who I'm going to be working with. I've never sold a business where the growth trajectory wasn't the Nike shoe. I think it's really, who are you going to be with good times and bad? And don't expect all to be the same, and financial controls matter, doing things safely matters and taking care of your team.Bob Wierema: So, Brendan after your transition from there, why don't you talk to us a little bit about your experience and time at H Harris? Brendan Deely: So, H Harris was a business that was owned by a private equity firm in Chicago called Front Neck. And I was talking with those guys after I left L&W, taking some time and trying to figure out what I wanted to do.They had a nice approach to how they invested. They find the leader first, and then go in an industry and then they go find deals, and they had bought a company maybe a year before I got involved with them that was a multi-location distribution business much like L&W but in the Northeast of the U.S. –  been around 100 years, great reputation, owned by another private equity firm, but family for a lot of years.And so, I invested money in it and started being a board member; I was on a board of a public company and still am. I liked board work, but I didn't want to be 50 when to throw up the shoes , but the thought was, I'll do this if I can help them. And then we'll continue to look for a business. And then there were some issues going on with integration of a very large acquisition. [00:26:00] So they bought the business and then they bought about eight months later a business that was 70% the size of it. So, it was a big elephant swallow and I'd done that, so I thought I could help.The management team kept giving me the Heisman, and so I'm not here to be management, but I can give you some help. And this is one of their biggest investments and the team was just kind of Bush league. And so, I finally told the guys I'm not going anymore. It's a waste of my time. But I'm okay with the investment. But then we just decided let's make a change. And they asked me if I would run the business and  I was living in Chicago, so not moving, but I had an apartment there and ran the business. We hired a great CFO who worked with me and we brought in some team and that business was just more of, hate to be blunt, but let's get some adults in the room and set budgets and hold people accountable and let's win, but I'm looking for effort and U12 soccer, not in a business, you've got to post school. Bob Wierema: I liked that one. Brendan Deely: And so, we changed the team and we challenged them to really move and put in brands, performance, metrics, and  I always said there's 55 locations there's always going to be one on the bottom. Just kind of get off the bottom. It's going to happen, but what are you going to do to get off it? And so, what we saw was a $400 million business. We could grow this thing to a billion or more just by moving South and West. And so, we got agreement to go through a sale process, to get with a larger PE farm to really grow this thing. And then at the last minute, a strategic came in and paid over 10 times for it. And I said, “here's the case, have fun with it”. It was a smart move for them, and they've been great to the employees.It wasn't the outcome [00:28:00] we wanted, but it was a super business. Bob Wierema: That was a quick turn, that was what? Two and a half year business for your business there?Brendan Deely: Two and a half. Yeah. Because we got a five-year plan done in two and a half. And so, it was one thing I learned, from speed is your friend if you have the right people. But no, that was a really good win and they're great people. And they went to a company with great culture. So that's how I feel about that. And then I've been with Banner Solutions for two and a half years and it's again PE owned, was recapped Halloween of last year.So, it's been over a year where together with [inaudible] out of New York are awesome guys. And so, we're looking to, we call it ‘banner 2.0', is to take this thing to the next level and  double or triple it over the next couple of years. And then sell it again. And so, it's a great market. Do you think about how many doors there are? How many handles there are? Commercial buildings? Residential? So it's a great replacement business. And the competition is generally pretty good, but it's the safety and security item. If it's broken, you fix it. And we've seen a lot through COVID around hands-free, a lot of that. And then ironically, the only mineral that really fights COVID is copper. And so, that's coming back, that you just use a dead item (?). So, there's some pretty cool macros in this space that's a hell of a lot nicer than the macros and the commodity drywall business. That's a gunfight every day. So, you know, this is not easy, but it's  a better environment. Michael Moore: When you say copper fights it from a transfer standpoint. Brendan Deely: It kills the virus. Don't ask me any more about it because I got nothing, Michael Moore: But that is interesting. [00:30:00] Brendan, just from your vast perspective in business and in buying and selling and running of companies, Bob and I talk a lot on this podcast, because it has taken off in the era of COVID, do you see the role of private equity continuing on like it has, or like a lot of things pivoting and changing?Brendan Deely: Yeah. It's interesting because I would say the banker who sold our business to tell him(?) with me, [inaudible] I talked to him last week and he said in November, there was like a fundamental shift in private equity where it's back to pre-COVID levels.And a lot of diligence remote. We integrated two businesses we bought recently remotely, and I've never done that in 29 acquisitions. I never even thought you can do it, but ERP system financials, all remote. And so, I think it's coming back. I think the vaccine helps. I think there'll be a real chasm at the end of the day, from how companies did through COVID or not as far as multiple expansion. And we're up this year organically. And so, I think it goes back to the markets, but I think we have a hell of a team who's out there slaying the dragon every day. So, we just keep doing it. But I think it's just a recent kind of Jeff(?). Michael Moore: A comment you made earlier that you love to build to a good outcome, define for us what is a good outcome?Brendan Deely: I think it's not incremental. It's how do we, if we're a regional player doing a good job, how do we really get national? How do we widen the moat between us and our competition? Because customers [00:32:00] have choices. So as technologies and service offer – because its speed to the market is a team, and I think a lot of the time in distribution businesses, there's a notion that the sales cures all.It's sales, it's operations, it's finance, collecting the money. Everybody plays a role. And so, it's more of how do we leave this business dramatically better than it was when we got here? And that's creating jobs, that's creating EBITDA(?) expansion. That's making some stupid mistakes and learning from them. Which is plenty of those, but I think I've learned more from my losses than my wins. And it's really about creating an environment where I go into a business, I'm thinking who's replacing me? So if I don't have it in the team, how do I get it? How do I develop it? Because I think the CEO's job is their own succession and strategy at the end of the day. And then creating a team that can execute and have to be much more complicated than that, but that's not an easy solution. And so, being responsible and not doing things illegal, but most competitors who are independent family-owned businesses, they're not thinking about an ERP system or how do you use a CRM system to really grow your top line? Or how do you get pulled through sales, a share of wallet growth?And so, I think coming from larger businesses, going into a couple hundred-million-dollar businesses, you kind of know what good looks like. So, if you find good people that can augment your management team, then you got five people, it's better than one.So build the right team and let people know where you're trying to get to too. Michael Moore: That's a good point. And so, for listeners that are in the maturation of building their businesses and climbing to the revenue goals that they've set out for themselves, have you noticed benchmarks at certain [00:34:00] revenue where things have to change? You can't keep doing it the same to get to the next level? And if so, what are those?Brendan Deely: Yeah. And you hit those inflection points in businesses and I think it's either a hundred or $200 million increment somewhere where I'm coming from, where you kind of hit that point where – we want to get North of a half a billion. So, I want a team right now who knows how to do it, not in three years. And I think it's really being honest, develop your strategy, develop a structure that does that, and then talk about people and then create the incentives – in that order. And if you maniacal on that, then you really do be thoughtful. But I think you're going to make some mistakes and move people around, but I've seen it in roles like CFOs where you get to a certain point and they don't have the breadth and I changed out of CFO last year, a little over a year ago for that reason. He started in small businesses. He says, “well, God, we're moving at such a pace with these acquisitions”. And I drank drinking out of the firearms and I'm like, “get a bigger mouth. This is the business we're in.” And so I think you get to a point where you've got to find somebody else who can reset the pace, and that can really bring in skills that are missing in the business. And I hired a COO recently who's done that and the CFO and some FPDA(?) people. I had a person that was working for me and running operations and I'd put a COO over him. And I said, “if I put you in this role, you'd fail. And that's not fair to you. And I think if I find the right person, they could maybe get you to where you need to be that the next time, you know, there's a role here, but otherwise I've seen it too often where you [00:36:00] just, people flounder in these roles,” and just be honest. And shit, I've been fired. It happens.Bob Wierema: Yeah. So, Brendon, you and I have talked a lot over the years on some things. I think one of the things is we're transitioning and what I was thinking is, you've shared a lot with me on how you're kind of pushing yourself and your kids and your family each and every day to get better and improve. Maybe talk about that, and then what that looks and feels like for you. Brendan Deely: We have five kids and, I have a Junior in college and a freshman in college, 11th grader, and then a 7th grader. And we lost our son two years ago to suicide at 12, still my son, he's still part of the family, but prior to that horrible thing happening, we were a cool family. The three girls naturally, and then we adopted two boys from Ethiopia, not related, our son Gabe who passed, he came home 14 years ago yesterday. And then Isaiah who's 13. And so, we're totally cool with it. You could go through an airport with nine kids looking like me, nobody looks. But  with us as an interracial family, we don't blend in and I don't like the blended. Bob Wierema: it's because Isaiah's going to be the best dressed one there. I've seen that little man walking around. Brendan Deely: Wearing his Yeezys and all that. But we always told our kids, “yeah, just make a difference in life. You don't have to be a CEO – I didn't know I was going to be a CEO but be a good person”. You know, corny sounding, “climb every mountain” song there. Just find your path and be good at it. If you're going to work in construction, be good at it. If you're going to be a [00:38:00] doctor, be good at it.And so, no pressure to do anything other than what you feel you can do. And so, we provided the environment for our kids, and they all were doing well and then November 14th of 2018, our life changed forever. And my son was in seventh grade and my daughter was in college, the oldest one. My wife took the other three to Iowa for a day and a half to see her mom then Gabe had confirmation thing on Saturday. So, I took him and drop them off – actually Carol left the house and I said, “all right, mom's gone. Let's go to Juul and get whatever you want. We just got to throw it out before she gets home”.He gets his food, and we go off and we have a great weekend. They just stopped and went out to dinner at a diner. And I was walking to Menards that morning, looking for someone walking down the street and we're actually held hands, which you didn't do. And I said, “Gabe you're doing great in school. I'm proud of you,” and he said, “dad. I'm lit”. I took him to basketball practice on Monday night and then Wednesday, he was gone, no signs, no warning, no crying, nothing to his brothers and sisters, just existential crisis for all, like how you know? And so, it was a real defining moment and you're trying to get yourself to breathe let alone take care of your family, and fuck business. I didn't care. It wasn't anyone around, but it was such a crazy environment. Like I said, I've run three businesses at a time, in the army. Okay. There's a problem. What's the situation? What could we have? What's the workaround?There's a child to suicide. There's nothing. It's a total. You're in no man's land. And [00:40:00] so yeah, we went about the whole burial and then it just all kinds of awful, right? Families, kids are suicidal. It's just like, fuck this has happened. We were, you know, not, you know, the Cunninghams, but we were a pretty good family. I didn't even think a 12-year-old thought about that at all, especially when it was great looking, funny as shit, had a bunch of friends. Subsequently we found out that he wrote a note, and he was being picked on in school. He was the only one of two black kids in his school, a Catholic school. And we didn't know anything about it. There was cyber bullying, he was searching suicidal stuff on his iPad during school. And so cyber bullying, all crazy, just surreal, the whole thing. And so we started Gabriel's Light, which Bob is involved with, to really never let it happen to another kid.And he slipped through the cracks and I'm fucking pissed. And I can either wallow in it, or we can affect change. Because the pain is going to be there regardless. And so, we've been out since November 13th of last year. And I give my wife all the credit, I call her a steam roller, with velvet gloves. It's kind of a couple of pillars; it's around internet security at schools, the Reagan Trust [inaudible], because kids are smarter than we are, a lot of training around cyber bullying and how do you recognize it? Both for teachers and for parents, just thoughts around bullying in general.When we were kids, we had to be kind of big to be a dick. Now you can be whatever you want, and the stuff they say is just nasty. You can just wipe [00:42:00] out a friend, I forget the word they call it, but you don't matter anymore. And then a lot around kindness campaign. So we've kicked us off grass roots. My wife's been on Norah O'Donnell from CBS news – and this is all pre-COVID. And so, we know of several kids that we've impacted positively, and we only wanted to impact one and that would have been a win, but I think COVID just kind of exacerbated it. So, we're better, but it's a grind. My other son struggles mightily and as does everybody else, but time helps. Therapy, which I've been in for quite some time has been hugely formative in me working myself through this thing. I was a stage four cancer guy, 26 years ago. I never thought for one minute I could cure this thing by myself. And so, when it comes to mental health, how could you possibly – your most complex thing in your body – figure you can work through it?And so that's kind of whole thing about Gabriel's Light, too is that it's okay not to be okay. I've been fucked up most of my life, but I think that really, when he gets to something like this, it truly resets what's important in yourself. I once told somebody, “I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy's trainer”.And it's still sometimes surreal. I still want to call Isaiah, Gabe, nobody gets upset. He's still part of the family, but being able to take a horrible, horrible outcome and do something good, it's really helped us as well. And I think it goes back to kind of the core of who we are is good people. We want to do good and want to make things better and want to do it with a big group of people. We've had a friend of mine, very close friend, whose daughter died by suicide. This fall, we've known him for 29 years. It's such a horrible thing. And [00:44:00] the amount. It's the number two leading cause of death, of people 10 to 24. I never knew that. And COVID just exacerbates that. I tell my kids that “look, Gabe is part of our family. What happened is part of our family, but that doesn't necessarily define us entirely”. We've come up with this family mantra – we kind of stole pieces out of it, but it's “get up, look up, never, ever give up and giddy up. And you're going to face shitty things. I don't know that you'll face anything harder from here, but don't give up, no way. Not for my kids, not for business and if I'm gonna die I'm gonna swing it. would say my relationship with my other son is probably dramatically better now. I sensed a bit of a gift from his brother. I was talking to him one time and he's a stubborn motherfucker like me, but I said, “I think coming through this whole thing, you and I have a better relationship than we ever did. And I'm really glad”. And I said, “it's, mostly on me”. And he said, “no, it's not just you. It was me too”. And this is an 11-year-old at the time.And so, you live, you learn from everything. I think the relationship with Bob just got that much more real when he told me two months after about some of his struggles, and you can't judge a book by the cover. It gets to the heart of people and you really find out who's real when things get really bad. Because it was interesting – we lost some people that were friends that just, I don't spend a lot of time on it, but it's just, wow. Because it's the whole ‘people act how they want', but I don't need that. I think that's when you really [00:46:00] separate, who's a friend and who's not. And as tough as it might be, it's an interesting process to know who you'd really go with. Bob Wierema: Brendan. Well, first of all, thank you for sharing. One of the things that I was thinking about as you talk and was like, you're obviously struggling as you're going through this, but you probably also got your family there – coming to you is the rock within that family and how did you deal with that? Because there's probably like the part of, “hey, how do I make sure everybody's good here? But I also got to take care of me. There are both parts of that. How did you work through? Brendan Deely: Gabe died in November. I went back to work in December just because I thought I should. And in March I lost it. I just collapsed and had never experienced anything like that, but you can only bullshit for so long, especially when it's as real as it gets.And so, I give credit to the previous PE firm, the guy came, and he said, “do you need time off?” And I started crying and I lost it and I said, “yeah, I do”, and I found a therapist, Neil, who may have saved my life. I certainly got back on track and he just listened, man. The first time I met him – he cried the first three times, and I was like, “who the fuck is paying for this?”He was just a genuine soul – we don't talk about Gabe all the time, it was incredibly invaluable to me. And I'd never thought about doing therapy, save the world, but I like being vulnerable. That's how I got to, how am I going to fix me? Because I realized I couldn't [00:48:00] help my family until I got myself to a spot where I was manageable or at least not spinning down. Because I was just going down a tough spot and faking it with my kids. And so, we did some family therapy, and the other thing that I found is I cried in front of my kids and I meant to do it, but it just came out, but I think for them to see me truly hurting allowed them to say, “all right, let's try to work through this thing”.And so there's smaller much smaller versions of that in business, but I think get yourself fixed first and if you've got problems, deal with them, head on. Because my experience was that they are only going to get worse. So, I went to church – my family's not back at the church because of the stuff with the Catholic school. I swear like a sailor, but I really truly came out in the last couple of years. I don't do the rosary it matters to me. I don't like some people in the Catholic church, but I still have faith. It took me a while, but I've separated those two. My advice would be taking care of yourself and your mind before your body and know that it's going to be work and it's going to be bumpy. It's that line that it's easy to sail when it's smooth water, but the other thing we showed our kids is that grief is like the oceans; sometimes it's smooth and sometimes it's rough as hell, and you just better know how to swim. I ‘m much better at talking about it now because I want to help people. If anybody's out there struggling, get help. You don't want to go [00:50:00] through what we went through?Bob Wierema: Brendon, I remember when we sat down at dinner, after when it was just you and I and we went to that summer house over by you up there. I shared with you some of the stuff I went through when I was in my twenties, and I remember one of the things that you said to me that has always stuck with me is what you just mentioned, which is that you got to take care of your mind as much as you got to take care of your body. And for some reason, a lot of people just want to neglect that and just think they can do it on their own and to go out and get help and to do that, I think is so hugely important. Also, I think what's amazing about you is that I've always loved your humility, your honesty, and your vulnerability. The way that we were able to share was because you opened up when we were talking and that's what's created such a great friendship between us. Now what you guys are doing with Gabriel's Light and all of that, it's going to have a positive effect on so many people and probably so many people you don't even know it has an effect on. And it's really amazing to see what you guys are doing. You and Carol are amazing people and it's been so good to get to know you guys.Brendan Deely: Thank you. Because the year after Gabe died some friends did a mass at the church, and I talked to people because Carol couldn't and I'll say anything, but I remember saying that we would have never signed up for this role. But it's ours now and watch out because we are all in on this thing. I had a guy who – I don't know if it was just down in Texas – but his son Brad Huxtable(?) or something, his son, same kind of thing, 12 years old, last year. And I reached out on Facebook and I'm like, [00:52:00] “man, I'm so sorry. And he immediately texted back and he's starting to build this thing, but his momentum around youth suicide and prevention and it's almost therapeutic for me to help or just listen, or cry with the person, whatever. I think that's the thing that when we were going through it, I didn't want to hear stories. I just wanted my buddy to sit with me at the restaurant. And then it evolves.I learned more in the last two years than I learned in the previous 52 – about me, about how you deal with struggles. My team at Bader Solutions is awesome. One of them asked me one time, “how do you  come back and do this?” I said, “this is what I do”. I had to do it for Gabe, but I have to do it for my wife Carol, and Margo, and Nora May(?). I said, “it's just that these are the cards I was dealt, and I'm gonna play them. Michael Moore: Brendan, thank you as Bob said, for, for just sharing so deeply your experiences with us, I'm glad you brought up Brad Hunsville(?) because I was doing a little research before the podcast and noticed that you were connected with him on LinkedIn. He actually runs a business here in Fort Worth.  I've been following what he's been sharing on LinkedIn and his story, and it's truly amazing as well. Brendan Deely: So you read about the personality of his son and my son, like God, it's like the same person, same age. There's another fight person, not going to fly.Michael Moore: His vulnerability in the way he's turned into it, well technology and the connectivity brought by all of these social media apps [00:54:00] that have the best intentions in the world. We're seeing the unintended consequences of the way kids interact with each other now. It's a hidden monster. It's people like you that are willing to put yourself out there and start something and be humble and share that they're going to turn it around. So, I just want to thank you for that.Brendan Deely: Much appreciated and there's technologies and other things that people can use as kids. I think it goes back to what I told our kids – just make a difference in whatever you do. And this has become part of our making a difference – a painful reason, but we're gonna do it.Michael Moore: Brendan, you've talked a lot about Isaiah and obviously the commonalities there with Gabe, but how are your other children doing? And how's your wife doing? Brendan Deely: My wife, she's a machine. Everything she does she does exceptionally well. She found Gabe and so had to go through some post-traumatic stress training called EMDR – it – worked, and then Margo, she was at school in Connecticut, came back for a year and now she's back at St. Mary's in Notre Dame, finishing her nursing degree. Then Norah is a freshman at NYU, and then May is a junior at Jones College Prep here in Chicago. But everybody went through therapy – some more than others. I'm still involved with it and there's no right or wrong on that. We do some family therapy, but I would say everybody's back to living their life. I wear a band, a Gabriel's Light band and I will for the rest of my life, but it's my way of keeping him with me. I've got his card in my iPhone. I just know he's around. He was psycho about orange. He wore it all the time. So, every place we [00:56:00] go, we bring an orange ribbon and we put it on a chair.So, it's a weird balance to try to figure out how to heal and not forget. We screwed it up, I think we've gotten pretty close, but I would say that our family is as direct as any family I know. I think we were pretty much before. If people are in a bad mood I'm like, “are you suicidal? No? Great.”We shouldn't be scared to say that because somebody might say yes and then maybe you could actually help them with therapists, but I appreciate you asking that. I think  you get through it; you don't get over it. And so, the raw intensity, everybody's different, but they said it's easily two years to get over it.I'm like, it's going to be what it is. The tears and the crying are far less than it was. And so, I want to remember his birthday and the day he came home, not the day he died. I mean, celebrate life and then the way he left, but then also remember him for the 13 years he was alive. He was a nut, he was a blast and had one bad day, really bad day. One funny story – he's like 10 at the time. We lived in the city so there's small ass yards and the leaves are down. So, we're raking the leaves and he takes the rake and – it's like 10 in the morning – he just throws it at the storm window and shatters it. And I'm like, “what the fuck?” He's like, “well, I wanted to see if it breaks,” and I'm like, “hey”, he's like, “what's up?” I said, “start running”.Bob Wierema: That's good. Brendan Deely: There's plenty of good stuff. Michael Moore: So, Brendan, if you think about this new world of [00:58:00] podcasts, why it is one of Bob and I's main passions is that it captures stories forever. And so, in thinking about that medium of capturing your story now that people interested in Gabriel's Light can come back and listen to, your wife and kids can go back and listen to, you can go back and listen to. There's this saying out there that it's not what you know, it's who you know, but we've reversed it around. And we say, it's not who you know, it's who knows you. So, in thinking about this podcast, what do you want people to know about you and with this medium, what do you want your wife and your kids to know about it?Brendan Deely: Great question. I always loved the quote by Walt Disney. “If you can dream it, you can do it.” That happens with thought, passion, energy, building a team, teaching people. But  I think there's a lot that people can learn from Gabriel's life that's going to make the world a better place. From tragedy comes good. That's a great thing. We told our kids to be defined by how you got back up, not by how you got knocked down. Because we didn't see it coming. It was a steamroller. But you're still good people. You still got things you can do and you're going to be successful and you're going to get married and you'll have kids. I don't care if you're gay or straight. I just want you to live a good life and to give back. And so, you know, for me personally, I have people that have come and work for me from two different companies. I got some still coming back to where I am. So, I think I'm generally a good person. I'm honest, I'm genuine, and don't ask me a question if you don't want the answer. But also humble enough to know I need really good [01:00:00] people, really smart people that want to make a lot of money and do some great stuff for this business, but I also have a perspective of at 26 I was diagnosed with stage four cancer, told I was going to live three months, I said, “fuck that, I'm not gonna do that”. And then get married, have a bunch of kids, and then we lost Gabe to suicide and you hit these defining moments. Neither of which I signed up for, but I think it helped me really understand that you know what, I'm at the core of who I am. I just want to be able to say that I left this place a little bit better than when I got here.I don't think I would have said that two years ago. I think I really mean that now. So, there's more work to do. Bob Wierema: That's a hell of an answer, Brendan. We appreciate you coming on and sharing everything with us today. Thanks so much. And as I've told you a million times, I'm blessed to have you as a person in my life and can't wait to continue to build our relationship together.So, thank you. Brendan Deely: No, no. It goes to the same and Mike and Johnny. Thank you. And I still don't know why she married you. Bob Wierema: We can cut that part out, Johnny. Michael Moore: No, no, there we go. Brendan Deely: Happy holidays. Bye.Michael Moore: Thanks so much for tuning into this episode of The Climb. If you enjoyed the episode, please consider subscribing. And if you know someone who you would think would enjoy the podcast, feel free to share this with them. Thanks again. And we'll see you on the next episode. [01:02:00]. 

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