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What can a bestselling science fiction novel teach dental hygienists about leadership, advocacy, and challenging the status quo? In this special episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and Dave welcome back Ashley Kear (featured in Episode 521, From Dental Chair to Design Dreams: Ashley Kear on Building an Etsy Shop) for an out-of-the-box conversation about why Red Rising by Pierce Brown has become such a meaningful story for leadership and professional growth. Together, they explore the themes from the series that resonate with dental hygienists, the different leadership styles found throughout the books, and the parallels between Darrow's journey and the evolution of the dental hygiene profession. From questioning old systems to inspiring change, this conversation is all about thinking bigger, leading with purpose, and embracing what's possible. In this episode, you'll hear: Why Red Rising resonates with dental hygienists Leadership lessons from the series How challenging the status quo relates to advancing dental hygiene How stories can inspire stronger leaders, educators, and advocates Ashley's perspective on what hygienists can learn from the series If you enjoyed this conversation, share it with a fellow hygienist, leave a review, and subscribe so you never miss an episode. Resources: Read Red Rising by Pierce Brown: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/221552/red-rising-by-pierce-brown/ Contact Ashley: Amoorerdh@gmail.com Contact the Hosts Jessica Atkinson: jatkinson@endeavorb2b.com Dave Torres: dtorres@endeavorb2b.com
Mission trips have the power to change lives—but only when they're built on ethics, sustainability, and partnership. In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and Dave welcome Dr. John Cutter for an honest conversation about the responsibilities that come with providing care in underserved communities. Together, they explore how clinicians can move beyond short-term solutions, build meaningful community partnerships, and approach service with cultural humility and a commitment to long-term impact. Whether you're a student, educator, or practicing clinician, this episode challenges the way we think about giving back. In this episode, we discuss: Balancing service, sustainability, and ethics in mission work Preparing clinicians and students to serve responsibly The unintended consequences of short-term care models Building partnerships that prioritize community needs Cultural humility, patient autonomy, and continuity of care How mission experiences shape providers personally and professionally Connect with Dr. John Cutter: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-m-cutter-d-d-s-256031b/ Email: jmcutterdds@gmail.com Connect with the Hosts: Jessica Atkinson: jatkinson@endeavorb2b.com Dave Torres: dtorres@endeavorb2b.com
What if some of the most important work dental hygienists can do happens outside the dental office? In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and Dave sit down with Jenell Robins to explore the growing role of dental hygienists in hospital and medical settings. Jenell shares her journey into medical-dental integration, the impact oral health has on overall patient outcomes, and why collaboration across healthcare disciplines is becoming more important than ever. This conversation offers a glimpse into the future of the profession and the expanding opportunities available to hygienists beyond traditional practice. In this episode, we discuss: How oral health influences overall patient outcomes The role of dental hygienists in hospital and medical settings Medical-dental integration and interdisciplinary collaboration Challenges and opportunities in hospital-based practice Jenell's journey into integrated healthcare The future of dental hygiene beyond the traditional dental office Connect with Jenell Robins: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenell-robins-5541542b8/ Email: jenellrobins@yahoo.com Connect with the Hosts: Jessica Atkinson: jatkinson@endeavorb2b.com Dave Torres: dtorres@endeavorb2b.com
What if some of the most important work dental hygienists can do happens outside the dental office? In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and Dave sit down with Jenell Robins to explore the growing role of dental hygienists in hospital and medical settings. Jenell shares her journey into medical-dental integration, the impact oral health has on overall patient outcomes, and why collaboration across healthcare disciplines is becoming more important than ever. This conversation offers a glimpse into the future of the profession and the expanding opportunities available to hygienists beyond traditional practice. In this episode, we discuss: How oral health influences overall patient outcomes The role of dental hygienists in hospital and medical settings Medical-dental integration and interdisciplinary collaboration Challenges and opportunities in hospital-based practice Jenell's journey into integrated healthcare The future of dental hygiene beyond the traditional dental office Connect with Jenell Robins: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenell-robins-5541542b8/ Email: jenellrobins@yahoo.com Connect with the Hosts: Jessica Atkinson: jatkinson@endeavorb2b.com Dave Torres: dtorres@endeavorb2b.com
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and Dave welcome Candi Kidd, RDH, BSDH, MEd, to discuss the unique challenges patients with special healthcare needs face when accessing oral healthcare. From medically complex and tube-fed patients to collaborating with caregivers and healthcare teams, Candi shares practical strategies for creating more inclusive, compassionate, and effective dental experiences. This conversation challenges clinicians to rethink accessibility, advocacy, and the future of patient-centered care. In this episode, we discuss: Common barriers to oral healthcare for patients with special healthcare needs Oral health considerations for medically complex and tube-fed patients Collaborating with caregivers and interdisciplinary healthcare teams Adapting preventive, therapeutic, and educational approaches Creating more inclusive and compassionate dental experiences The role of advocacy in improving access to care Practical strategies clinicians can implement immediately Where dental education and healthcare systems can continue to improve Connect with Candi Kidd: Email: candicea31@gmail.com Instagram: @the.sunnysister Connect with the Hosts: Jessica Atkinson: jatkinson@endeavorb2b.com Dave Torres: dtorres@endeavorb2b.com
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and Dave welcome Candi Kidd, RDH, BSDH, MEd, to discuss the unique challenges patients with special healthcare needs face when accessing oral healthcare. From medically complex and tube-fed patients to collaborating with caregivers and healthcare teams, Candi shares practical strategies for creating more inclusive, compassionate, and effective dental experiences. This conversation challenges clinicians to rethink accessibility, advocacy, and the future of patient-centered care. In this episode, we discuss: Common barriers to oral healthcare for patients with special healthcare needs Oral health considerations for medically complex and tube-fed patients Collaborating with caregivers and interdisciplinary healthcare teams Adapting preventive, therapeutic, and educational approaches Creating more inclusive and compassionate dental experiences The role of advocacy in improving access to care Practical strategies clinicians can implement immediately Where dental education and healthcare systems can continue to improve Connect with Candi Kidd: Email: candicea31@gmail.com Instagram: @the.sunnysister Connect with the Hosts: Jessica Atkinson: jatkinson@endeavorb2b.com Dave Torres: dtorres@endeavorb2b.com
What if the biggest challenge in oral healthcare isn't clinical knowledge—but access? In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and Dave sit down with Richard Robinson, BS, RDH, to discuss how community outreach is transforming preventive oral healthcare. Richard shares what it takes to build sustainable partnerships, reach underserved populations, and remove the barriers that prevent people from receiving the care they need. From advocacy and education to real-world outreach initiatives, this conversation highlights how every dental professional can make a lasting impact beyond the operatory. In this episode, we discuss: The connection between community outreach and preventive oral healthcare Identifying and addressing barriers to oral healthcare access Building sustainable community partnerships Reaching underserved and vulnerable populations The role of education, advocacy, and prevention Lessons from successful outreach initiatives How clinicians, educators, and students can get involved in community-based care The future of access-to-care efforts in dentistry and dental hygiene Connect with Richard Robinson: Email: mywhy1st@gmail.com Facebook: MY WHY Instagram: @mywhy1st TikTok: @RichardRobinson_RDH Connect with the Hosts: Jessica Atkinson: jatkinson@endeavorb2b.com Dave Torres: dtorres@endeavorb2b.com
What if the biggest challenge in oral healthcare isn't clinical knowledge—but access? In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and Dave sit down with Richard Robinson, BS, RDH, to discuss how community outreach is transforming preventive oral healthcare. Richard shares what it takes to build sustainable partnerships, reach underserved populations, and remove the barriers that prevent people from receiving the care they need. From advocacy and education to real-world outreach initiatives, this conversation highlights how every dental professional can make a lasting impact beyond the operatory. In this episode, we discuss: The connection between community outreach and preventive oral healthcare Identifying and addressing barriers to oral healthcare access Building sustainable community partnerships Reaching underserved and vulnerable populations The role of education, advocacy, and prevention Lessons from successful outreach initiatives How clinicians, educators, and students can get involved in community-based care The future of access-to-care efforts in dentistry and dental hygiene Connect with Richard Robinson: Email: mywhy1st@gmail.com Facebook: MY WHY Instagram: @mywhy1st TikTok: @RichardRobinson_RDH Connect with the Hosts: Jessica Atkinson: jatkinson@endeavorb2b.com Dave Torres: dtorres@endeavorb2b.com
In this special bonus episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and Dave welcome back Noel and Richard Paschke, better known as Mr. and Mrs. Ultrasonics, for a deep dive into ultrasonic insert performance, wear, and innovation. The Paschkes explore why all ultrasonic tips wear over time, how worn inserts impact patient outcomes and clinician efficiency, and the engineering principles behind DuraTip, Rich's latest invention manufactured by Parkell. They also discuss practical systems for measuring insert performance, the risks of using ineffective instruments, and how technology continues to evolve to improve clinical care. The conversation also highlights Parkell's new TurboSensor+360 ultrasonic scaler and the features designed to improve ergonomics, workflow efficiency, and clinical confidence. In this episode, you'll learn: Why ultrasonic inserts lose efficiency as they wear The clinical and ethical implications of using worn instruments What makes DuraTip different from traditional ultrasonic inserts How to create a system for monitoring insert performance in your practice The latest innovations in ultrasonic technology and ergonomics Key features of Parkell's TurboSensor+360 scaler, including Cruise Control and IntelliSense technology. Links: https://www.rdhmag.com/patient-care/ultrasonics/article/55356839/worn-out-work-smarter-not-harder-with-your-ultrasonics-inserts-tips Contact the Hosts: Jessica Atkinson: jatkinson@endeavorb2b.com Dave Torres: dtorres@endeavorb2b.com This episode is brought to you by our friends at Parkell. Thanks to Parkell for supporting dental professionals with innovative solutions designed to improve clinical performance, efficiency, and ergonomics.
In this special bonus episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and Dave welcome back Noel and Richard Paschke, better known as Mr. and Mrs. Ultrasonics, for a deep dive into ultrasonic insert performance, wear, and innovation. The Paschkes explore why all ultrasonic tips wear over time, how worn inserts impact patient outcomes and clinician efficiency, and the engineering principles behind DuraTip, Rich's latest invention manufactured by Parkell. They also discuss practical systems for measuring insert performance, the risks of using ineffective instruments, and how technology continues to evolve to improve clinical care. The conversation also highlights Parkell's new TurboSensor+360 ultrasonic scaler and the features designed to improve ergonomics, workflow efficiency, and clinical confidence. In this episode, you'll learn: Why ultrasonic inserts lose efficiency as they wear The clinical and ethical implications of using worn instruments What makes DuraTip different from traditional ultrasonic inserts How to create a system for monitoring insert performance in your practice The latest innovations in ultrasonic technology and ergonomics Key features of Parkell's TurboSensor+360 scaler, including Cruise Control and IntelliSense technology. Links: https://www.rdhmag.com/patient-care/ultrasonics/article/55356839/worn-out-work-smarter-not-harder-with-your-ultrasonics-inserts-tips Contact the Hosts: Jessica Atkinson: jatkinson@endeavorb2b.com Dave Torres: dtorres@endeavorb2b.com This episode is brought to you by our friends at Parkell. Thanks to Parkell for supporting dental professionals with innovative solutions designed to improve clinical performance, efficiency, and ergonomics.
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and Dave welcome back Noel and Richard Paschke, better known as Mr. and Mrs. Ultrasonics. Together, they break down the science behind ultrasonic instrumentation, separating fact from fiction on topics like frequency, amplitude, cavitation, cleaning efficiency, and clinical technique. Rich shares an engineer's perspective on how ultrasonic devices are designed, while Noel translates the physics into practical applications for today's clinician. They also discuss common misconceptions about piezo and magnetostrictive units, how worn tips impact performance, and why understanding ultrasonic technology is essential for delivering better patient care. In this episode, you'll learn: The difference between frequency, amplitude, and cleaning efficiency Why ultrasonic scaling is about more than simply turning up the power Common myths surrounding cavitation and calculus removal Key differences between piezo and magnetostrictive systems How tip design, wear, and adaptation affect clinical outcomes The latest innovations from the Paschkes, including cordless ultrasonics and a patent-pending piezo swivel handpiece. Connect with Noel: noel.ultrasonicsplus@gmail.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/noelpaschke/ Contact the Hosts: Jessica Atkinson: jatkinson@endeavorb2b.com Dave Torres: dtorres@endeavorb2b.com
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and Dave welcome back Noel and Richard Paschke, better known as Mr. and Mrs. Ultrasonics. Together, they break down the science behind ultrasonic instrumentation, separating fact from fiction on topics like frequency, amplitude, cavitation, cleaning efficiency, and clinical technique. Rich shares an engineer's perspective on how ultrasonic devices are designed, while Noel translates the physics into practical applications for today's clinician. They also discuss common misconceptions about piezo and magnetostrictive units, how worn tips impact performance, and why understanding ultrasonic technology is essential for delivering better patient care. In this episode, you'll learn: The difference between frequency, amplitude, and cleaning efficiency Why ultrasonic scaling is about more than simply turning up the power Common myths surrounding cavitation and calculus removal Key differences between piezo and magnetostrictive systems How tip design, wear, and adaptation affect clinical outcomes The latest innovations from the Paschkes, including cordless ultrasonics and a patent-pending piezo swivel handpiece. Connect with Noel: noel.ultrasonicsplus@gmail.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/noelpaschke/ Contact the Hosts: Jessica Atkinson: jatkinson@endeavorb2b.com Dave Torres: dtorres@endeavorb2b.com
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and Dave welcome back Dr. Emily Boge to explore the evolving balance between ultrasonic technology and hand instrumentation in modern dental hygiene. We dive into why ultrasonics are powerful tools — but not magic wands — and why mastering hand instrumentation remains essential for effective patient care. We look into a humbling calibration story that changed the clinical approach and the importance of diagnostic instruments, assessment skills, and clinician awareness in achieving better outcomes. This conversation is a reminder that great hygiene care is not about choosing between technology and technique — it's about mastering both. Guest: Dr. Emily Boge Ereinert@hotmail.com What We Discuss: Why ultrasonics require balance, technique, and intention Why hand instrumentation still matters in modern hygiene care A practice-changing calibration experience The importance of diagnostic instruments and assessment tools How clinician awareness impacts patient outcomes Resources & Links: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emily-boge-edd-rdh-cda-faadh-fadha-cdipc-8a648916/ Call to Action: If you enjoyed this episode, subscribe to A Tale of Two Hygienists, leave a review, and share this episode with fellow clinicians and educators.
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and Dave welcome back Dr. Emily Boge to explore the evolving balance between ultrasonic technology and hand instrumentation in modern dental hygiene. We dive into why ultrasonics are powerful tools — but not magic wands — and why mastering hand instrumentation remains essential for effective patient care. We look into a humbling calibration story that changed the clinical approach and the importance of diagnostic instruments, assessment skills, and clinician awareness in achieving better outcomes. This conversation is a reminder that great hygiene care is not about choosing between technology and technique — it's about mastering both. Guest: Dr. Emily Boge Ereinert@hotmail.com What We Discuss: Why ultrasonics require balance, technique, and intention Why hand instrumentation still matters in modern hygiene care A practice-changing calibration experience The importance of diagnostic instruments and assessment tools How clinician awareness impacts patient outcomes Resources & Links: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emily-boge-edd-rdh-cda-faadh-fadha-cdipc-8a648916/ Call to Action: If you enjoyed this episode, subscribe to A Tale of Two Hygienists, leave a review, and share this episode with fellow clinicians and educators.
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and Dave sit down with implant maintenance expert Alison Stahl to unpack the hidden risks surrounding dental implants — and why successful implant therapy requires far more than simply placing the implant. Alison explains why implants remain vulnerable to periodontal and systemic disease, why water flossers are essential for long-term implant health, and how palpation and 3D radiographs can dramatically improve diagnosis and treatment outcomes. She also reveals why stainless steel instruments may be damaging implants without clinicians realizing it and shares the essential protocols every hygienist should know when treating implant patients. From single implants to full-arch fixed prostheses, this conversation challenges outdated approaches to implant care and highlights what modern clinicians need to protect both the implant and the patient. Guest: Alison Stahl alisonstahl@precisionperi-implantacademy.com What We Discuss: Why implants are still susceptible to periodontal and systemic disease Why water flossers are critical for implant maintenance The importance of palpation and 3D radiographs in implant assessment How stainless steel instruments can damage implant surfaces Essential implant maintenance protocols for clinicians Treatment considerations for single implants and full-arch prostheses Resources & Links: Website: https://precisionperi-implantacademy.com/ If you enjoyed this episode, subscribe to A Tale of Two Hygienists, leave a review, and share this episode with your colleagues and clinical team.
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and Dave sit down with implant maintenance expert Alison Stahl to unpack the hidden risks surrounding dental implants — and why successful implant therapy requires far more than simply placing the implant. Alison explains why implants remain vulnerable to periodontal and systemic disease, why water flossers are essential for long-term implant health, and how palpation and 3D radiographs can dramatically improve diagnosis and treatment outcomes. She also reveals why stainless steel instruments may be damaging implants without clinicians realizing it and shares the essential protocols every hygienist should know when treating implant patients. From single implants to full-arch fixed prostheses, this conversation challenges outdated approaches to implant care and highlights what modern clinicians need to protect both the implant and the patient. Guest: Alison Stahl alisonstahl@precisionperi-implantacademy.com What We Discuss: Why implants are still susceptible to periodontal and systemic disease Why water flossers are critical for implant maintenance The importance of palpation and 3D radiographs in implant assessment How stainless steel instruments can damage implant surfaces Essential implant maintenance protocols for clinicians Treatment considerations for single implants and full-arch prostheses Resources & Links: Website: https://precisionperi-implantacademy.com/ If you enjoyed this episode, subscribe to A Tale of Two Hygienists, leave a review, and share this episode with your colleagues and clinical team.
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, co-hosts David Torres and Jessica Atkinson sit down with Billie Lunt, RDH, BA, MSDH, to explore the pivotal transition from student to practicing professional—and what it really means to advocate for yourself in today's dental hygiene landscape. The conversation dives into the gap between school and real-world practice, challenging the mindset many hygienists carry into their careers. Billie shares insight on how to step confidently into your role, define your own standards of care, and navigate the complexities of patient relationships and clinical expectations. Key topics discussed include: Transforming patient anxiety into health success stories through trust-building and communication Defining your professional standards and why they matter in everyday practice The truth behind "practicing dentistry" and what it looks like in real clinical settings The importance of questioning and aligning your values as a dental hygienist Bridging the gap between education and real-world expectations Rather than staying stuck in a student mindset, this episode encourages hygienists to take ownership of their professional identity. Billie offers a thoughtful perspective on how self-awareness, advocacy, and intentional growth can lead to stronger patient outcomes and a more fulfilling career. This episode is a must-listen for new graduates and seasoned hygienists alike who are ready to elevate their role and confidently advocate for themselves and their patients. Call to Action Take time to evaluate your professional standards and values. Identify where you can advocate more effectively for yourself and your patients, and begin making intentional changes in your daily practice. Connect with Billie Lunt: Email: happyflossertRDH@gmail.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/billielunt/
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, co-hosts David Torres and Jessica Atkinson sit down with Billie Lunt, RDH, BA, MSDH, to explore the pivotal transition from student to practicing professional—and what it really means to advocate for yourself in today's dental hygiene landscape. The conversation dives into the gap between school and real-world practice, challenging the mindset many hygienists carry into their careers. Billie shares insight on how to step confidently into your role, define your own standards of care, and navigate the complexities of patient relationships and clinical expectations. Key topics discussed include: Transforming patient anxiety into health success stories through trust-building and communication Defining your professional standards and why they matter in everyday practice The truth behind "practicing dentistry" and what it looks like in real clinical settings The importance of questioning and aligning your values as a dental hygienist Bridging the gap between education and real-world expectations Rather than staying stuck in a student mindset, this episode encourages hygienists to take ownership of their professional identity. Billie offers a thoughtful perspective on how self-awareness, advocacy, and intentional growth can lead to stronger patient outcomes and a more fulfilling career. This episode is a must-listen for new graduates and seasoned hygienists alike who are ready to elevate their role and confidently advocate for themselves and their patients. Call to Action Take time to evaluate your professional standards and values. Identify where you can advocate more effectively for yourself and your patients, and begin making intentional changes in your daily practice. Connect with Billie Lunt: Email: happyflossertRDH@gmail.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/billielunt/
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, co-hosts David Torres and Jessica Atkinson sit down with Melia Lewis, MEd, to discuss the critical role dental hygienists play in supporting patients undergoing cancer treatment. Drawing from her personal experience with her father's cancer diagnosis, Melia brings a deeply meaningful perspective to the conversation. She highlights the emotional and clinical impact of cancer care, and how dental hygienists can become essential advocates and providers within a patient's healthcare journey. Key topics discussed include: * Melia's personal journey navigating her father's cancer diagnosis and how it shaped her professional perspective. *Whether dental hygiene should be more formally integrated into oncology care. *The importance of resilience and understanding why the work hygienists do truly matters. *Common oral side effects experienced by cancer patients and how to recognize them. *How hygienists can tailor appointments to better support patients undergoing cancer treatment. Rather than viewing care as routine, this episode challenges listeners to approach each patient—especially those facing serious health conditions—with intention, empathy, and clinical adaptability. Melia offers insight into how hygienists can elevate their role and make a meaningful difference during some of their patients' most vulnerable moments. This episode is a must-listen for hygienists who want to expand their understanding of patient-centered care and play a more active role in supporting individuals through complex health challenges. Call to Action: Take time to deepen your understanding of how systemic health conditions, like cancer, impact oral health. Look for opportunities to adapt your care approach and advocate for patients who may need more personalized support. Connect with Melia Lewis: Email: melia@hygieneedge.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melia-lewis/
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, co-hosts David Torres and Jessica Atkinson sit down with Melia Lewis, MEd, to discuss the critical role dental hygienists play in supporting patients undergoing cancer treatment. Drawing from her personal experience with her father's cancer diagnosis, Melia brings a deeply meaningful perspective to the conversation. She highlights the emotional and clinical impact of cancer care, and how dental hygienists can become essential advocates and providers within a patient's healthcare journey. Key topics discussed include: * Melia's personal journey navigating her father's cancer diagnosis and how it shaped her professional perspective. *Whether dental hygiene should be more formally integrated into oncology care. *The importance of resilience and understanding why the work hygienists do truly matters. *Common oral side effects experienced by cancer patients and how to recognize them. *How hygienists can tailor appointments to better support patients undergoing cancer treatment. Rather than viewing care as routine, this episode challenges listeners to approach each patient—especially those facing serious health conditions—with intention, empathy, and clinical adaptability. Melia offers insight into how hygienists can elevate their role and make a meaningful difference during some of their patients' most vulnerable moments. This episode is a must-listen for hygienists who want to expand their understanding of patient-centered care and play a more active role in supporting individuals through complex health challenges. Call to Action: Take time to deepen your understanding of how systemic health conditions, like cancer, impact oral health. Look for opportunities to adapt your care approach and advocate for patients who may need more personalized support. Connect with Melia Lewis: Email: melia@hygieneedge.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melia-lewis/
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, co-hosts David Torres and Jessica Atkinson welcome renowned speaker and dental educator Jo-Anne Jones for an impactful conversation titled "Oral Cancer Screening: Stepping Fully Into Your Role." Jo-Anne shares deeply personal and professional insights that challenge clinicians to recognize the true life-saving potential of routine dental visits. Through powerful storytelling and clinical expertise, she highlights the urgency of early detection—especially in the face of rising HPV-related cancers—and encourages hygienists to fully embrace their role in comprehensive screenings. From explaining the intraoral "triangle of death" to demonstrating proper neck palpation techniques, Jo-Anne provides practical, actionable strategies clinicians can implement immediately. She also reflects on how a personal crisis shaped her mission in dentistry and reinforces why every screening appointment should be treated as an opportunity to save a life. This episode is both inspiring and educational, equipping dental professionals with the knowledge and confidence to elevate their oral cancer screening protocols and patient care. "What We Talked About (From Jo-Anne's Perspective)" Why Jo-Anne is passionate about saving lives—HPV, rising cancers, and one family's loss How Jo-Anne approaches the intraoral "triangle of death" exam How a personal crisis launched Jo-Anne's mission in dentistry Why Jo-Anne believes this is a life-saving appointment How Jo-Anne performs proper neck palpation Simple screening steps Jo-Anne recommends hygienists start today Why Jo-Anne uses screening tools in clinical practice Call to Action If you found this episode valuable, be sure to subscribe to A Tale of Two Hygienists, leave a review, and share it with colleagues who are committed to improving patient care and early detection. Resources: HPV Talking Points Resource: www.rdhu.ca/hpvtalkingpointsresource Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jjlifeandtimes/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jo-anne-jones-88a2266/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jo.anne.jones.626106/
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, co-hosts David Torres and Jessica Atkinson welcome renowned speaker and dental educator Jo-Anne Jones for an impactful conversation titled "Oral Cancer Screening: Stepping Fully Into Your Role." Jo-Anne shares deeply personal and professional insights that challenge clinicians to recognize the true life-saving potential of routine dental visits. Through powerful storytelling and clinical expertise, she highlights the urgency of early detection—especially in the face of rising HPV-related cancers—and encourages hygienists to fully embrace their role in comprehensive screenings. From explaining the intraoral "triangle of death" to demonstrating proper neck palpation techniques, Jo-Anne provides practical, actionable strategies clinicians can implement immediately. She also reflects on how a personal crisis shaped her mission in dentistry and reinforces why every screening appointment should be treated as an opportunity to save a life. This episode is both inspiring and educational, equipping dental professionals with the knowledge and confidence to elevate their oral cancer screening protocols and patient care. "What We Talked About (From Jo-Anne's Perspective)" Why Jo-Anne is passionate about saving lives—HPV, rising cancers, and one family's loss How Jo-Anne approaches the intraoral "triangle of death" exam How a personal crisis launched Jo-Anne's mission in dentistry Why Jo-Anne believes this is a life-saving appointment How Jo-Anne performs proper neck palpation Simple screening steps Jo-Anne recommends hygienists start today Why Jo-Anne uses screening tools in clinical practice Call to Action If you found this episode valuable, be sure to subscribe to A Tale of Two Hygienists, leave a review, and share it with colleagues who are committed to improving patient care and early detection. Resources: HPV Talking Points Resource: www.rdhu.ca/hpvtalkingpointsresource Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jjlifeandtimes/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jo-anne-jones-88a2266/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jo.anne.jones.626106/
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and David sit down with dental hygienist Angeli Walton to share her powerful story of recognizing early signs of a thyroid condition—within herself. What began as clinical awareness quickly turned into a deeply personal journey, as Angeli navigated the unexpected shift from provider to patient. Angeli reflects on how her training helped her notice subtle changes that might have otherwise gone overlooked, and how trusting those instincts ultimately led to early detection. The conversation explores the emotional and professional impact of experiencing healthcare from the other side of the chair, offering a unique perspective that many clinicians don't anticipate, but can learn from. Together, they discuss the broader role dental professionals play in identifying systemic health concerns, and why paying attention to small details can make a life-changing difference. Angeli also shares insights on self-advocacy and why it's critical for clinicians to speak up—both for their patients and themselves. This episode offers a meaningful reminder that the skills used every day in practice extend far beyond oral health, and can be just as important in protecting your own well-being. What We Talked About: Recognizing early signs of systemic conditions How clinical instincts can support early detection The experience of transitioning from provider to patient Why subtle symptoms shouldn't be ignored The importance of self-advocacy in healthcare If you found this episode valuable, be sure to subscribe to A Tale of Two Hygienists, leave a review, and share it with colleagues who are passionate about whole-body health and early detection. Resources: Email: Angeli.damron@gmail.com Instagram: @angeliwalton
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, Jessica and David sit down with dental hygienist Angeli Walton to share her powerful story of recognizing early signs of a thyroid condition—within herself. What began as clinical awareness quickly turned into a deeply personal journey, as Angeli navigated the unexpected shift from provider to patient. Angeli reflects on how her training helped her notice subtle changes that might have otherwise gone overlooked, and how trusting those instincts ultimately led to early detection. The conversation explores the emotional and professional impact of experiencing healthcare from the other side of the chair, offering a unique perspective that many clinicians don't anticipate, but can learn from. Together, they discuss the broader role dental professionals play in identifying systemic health concerns, and why paying attention to small details can make a life-changing difference. Angeli also shares insights on self-advocacy and why it's critical for clinicians to speak up—both for their patients and themselves. This episode offers a meaningful reminder that the skills used every day in practice extend far beyond oral health, and can be just as important in protecting your own well-being. What We Talked About: Recognizing early signs of systemic conditions How clinical instincts can support early detection The experience of transitioning from provider to patient Why subtle symptoms shouldn't be ignored The importance of self-advocacy in healthcare If you found this episode valuable, be sure to subscribe to A Tale of Two Hygienists, leave a review, and share it with colleagues who are passionate about whole-body health and early detection. Resources: Email: Angeli.damron@gmail.com Instagram: @angeliwalton
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, co-hosts David Torres and Jessica Atkinson sit down with oral pathologist Dr. Bryan Trump to discuss the important role dental professionals play in identifying abnormalities and knowing when to refer patients to a specialist. Dr. Trump shares valuable insight into what clinicians might be missing during routine exams and how to strengthen their confidence when suspicious findings arise. The conversation dives into practical strategies for performing thorough oral cancer screenings, recognizing key red flags, and navigating patient conversations when something concerning is discovered. Dr. Trump also offers guidance on how clinicians can communicate pathology findings in a clear and compassionate way—helping patients understand the situation without causing unnecessary fear. This episode provides practical tips for dental hygienists and dentists who want to improve their screening protocols, referral confidence, and patient communication when dealing with potentially serious diagnoses. What We Talked About: How to confidently refer patients to specialists Essential tips for performing effective oral cancer screenings Recognizing concerning findings and clinical red flags Navigating difficult conversations about the possibility of cancer How to communicate pathology findings without unnecessarily scaring patients If you found this episode helpful, be sure to subscribe to A Tale of Two Hygienists, leave a review, and share the episode with colleagues who are passionate about improving patient care and early detection. Resources: Contact Dr. Bryan Trump: bryan.trump@hsc.utah.edu
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, co-hosts David Torres and Jessica Atkinson sit down with oral pathologist Dr. Bryan Trump to discuss the important role dental professionals play in identifying abnormalities and knowing when to refer patients to a specialist. Dr. Trump shares valuable insight into what clinicians might be missing during routine exams and how to strengthen their confidence when suspicious findings arise. The conversation dives into practical strategies for performing thorough oral cancer screenings, recognizing key red flags, and navigating patient conversations when something concerning is discovered. Dr. Trump also offers guidance on how clinicians can communicate pathology findings in a clear and compassionate way—helping patients understand the situation without causing unnecessary fear. This episode provides practical tips for dental hygienists and dentists who want to improve their screening protocols, referral confidence, and patient communication when dealing with potentially serious diagnoses. What We Talked About: How to confidently refer patients to specialists Essential tips for performing effective oral cancer screenings Recognizing concerning findings and clinical red flags Navigating difficult conversations about the possibility of cancer How to communicate pathology findings without unnecessarily scaring patients If you found this episode helpful, be sure to subscribe to A Tale of Two Hygienists, leave a review, and share the episode with colleagues who are passionate about improving patient care and early detection. Resources: Contact Dr. Bryan Trump: bryan.trump@hsc.utah.edu
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, co-hosts David Torres and Jessica Atkinson sit down with Joffree Bunleang to unpack one of the most challenging realities in professional advocacy—what happens when legislation doesn't go the way you hoped? The conversation centers around Oral Preventive Assistants (OPAs) and the evolving landscape of dental practice. Joffree brings clarity to what OPAs are, why they're being introduced in various regions, and how their presence impacts dental hygienists and the broader dental team. Key topics discussed include: Understanding OPAs and their intended role within dental practices The surprising truth about the hygienist perspective on change and professional identity The real impact OPAs may have on workflow, patient care, and team dynamics Practical ways hygienists can work with OPAs in everyday clinical settings How to respond constructively when advocacy efforts don't achieve the desired outcome Rather than framing OPAs as a threat, this episode challenges listeners to consider how collaboration, leadership, and proactive engagement can strengthen the profession. Joffree offers thoughtful insight into how hygienists can continue advocating for themselves while also building effective working relationships with Oral Preventive Assistants. This episode is a must-listen for hygienists navigating legislative changes and seeking productive ways to move forward—together. Call to Action Empower yourself as a dental hygienist. Advocate for your profession, stay informed about legislative developments, and focus on collaboration. Learn how to work alongside Oral Preventive Assistants in ways that support patient care, professional growth, and team success. Resources: Email: joffree.bunleang@hygieneelevated.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joffreebunleang/ "What if OPAs became the strength we didn't see coming?" https://www.rdhmag.com/career-profession/article/55344645/what-if-opas-became-the-strength-we-didnt-see-coming
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, co-hosts David Torres and Jessica Atkinson sit down with Joffree Bunleang to unpack one of the most challenging realities in professional advocacy—what happens when legislation doesn't go the way you hoped? The conversation centers around Oral Preventive Assistants (OPAs) and the evolving landscape of dental practice. Joffree brings clarity to what OPAs are, why they're being introduced in various regions, and how their presence impacts dental hygienists and the broader dental team. Key topics discussed include: Understanding OPAs and their intended role within dental practices The surprising truth about the hygienist perspective on change and professional identity The real impact OPAs may have on workflow, patient care, and team dynamics Practical ways hygienists can work with OPAs in everyday clinical settings How to respond constructively when advocacy efforts don't achieve the desired outcome Rather than framing OPAs as a threat, this episode challenges listeners to consider how collaboration, leadership, and proactive engagement can strengthen the profession. Joffree offers thoughtful insight into how hygienists can continue advocating for themselves while also building effective working relationships with Oral Preventive Assistants. This episode is a must-listen for hygienists navigating legislative changes and seeking productive ways to move forward—together. Call to Action Empower yourself as a dental hygienist. Advocate for your profession, stay informed about legislative developments, and focus on collaboration. Learn how to work alongside Oral Preventive Assistants in ways that support patient care, professional growth, and team success. Resources: Email: joffree.bunleang@hygieneelevated.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joffreebunleang/ "What if OPAs became the strength we didn't see coming?" https://www.rdhmag.com/career-profession/article/55344645/what-if-opas-became-the-strength-we-didnt-see-coming
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, hosts Jessica Atkinson and David Torres sit down with Brittnee Thibault and Lindsay Richmond—two hygienists who graduated with no pediatric local anesthetic practice in school and went on to become confident clinicians providing local anesthesia for children. Brittnee and Lindsay share how they developed pediatric anesthesia skills after graduation, building confidence through preparation, mentorship, and real-world experience. They discuss behavior management, anesthesia techniques, and parent-provider communication—highlighting how being prepared allows clinicians to stay calm rather than panicked when treating pediatric patients. What We Cover Transitioning from no pediatric local anesthetic practice in school to confidently anesthetizing children Pediatric behavior management strategies that support successful anesthesia Practical anesthesia techniques and considerations for pediatric patients Managing children and their parents during appointments Parent-provider communication that builds trust and reduces anxiety Resources: Social Media Handles: @Lindsay.richmond16 LindsayRichmond.rdh@gmail.com @brittnee.thibault Brittneethibaultrdh@gmail.com
In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, hosts Jessica Atkinson and David Torres sit down with Brittnee Thibault and Lindsay Richmond—two hygienists who graduated with no pediatric local anesthetic practice in school and went on to become confident clinicians providing local anesthesia for children. Brittnee and Lindsay share how they developed pediatric anesthesia skills after graduation, building confidence through preparation, mentorship, and real-world experience. They discuss behavior management, anesthesia techniques, and parent-provider communication—highlighting how being prepared allows clinicians to stay calm rather than panicked when treating pediatric patients. What We Cover Transitioning from no pediatric local anesthetic practice in school to confidently anesthetizing children Pediatric behavior management strategies that support successful anesthesia Practical anesthesia techniques and considerations for pediatric patients Managing children and their parents during appointments Parent-provider communication that builds trust and reduces anxiety Resources: Social Media Handles: @Lindsay.richmond16 LindsayRichmond.rdh@gmail.com @brittnee.thibault Brittneethibaultrdh@gmail.com
The end of an era as Andrew hangs up the mic as host of A Tale of Two Hygienists after more than 10 years. But this isn't a sad day, it's a day to celebrate as we welcome in the two new co-hosts for 2026.. but you have to listen to find out who it is!
The end of an era as Andrew hangs up the mic as host of A Tale of Two Hygienists after more than 10 years. But this isn't a sad day, it's a day to celebrate as we welcome in the two new co-hosts for 2026.. but you have to listen to find out who it is!
Andrew Johnston became a dental hygienist in 2009 and has been busy with his career since. A few accomplishments he's had include earning a bachelor's in business management, becoming a co-founder of the podcast A Tale of Two Hygienists, and working as a director of dental hygiene at a corporate dental office. Before dental hygiene school, Andrew had a successful career in retail management and initially wanted to become a periodontist. Ultimately, he loved dental hygiene so much and decided not to pursue dental school. Andrew's done so much with his career in dental hygiene and has so much wisdom to share for the future RDH! Timestamps: (00:00) Andrew's RDH Origin Story(03:33) Dental Hygiene Career Timeline(11:59) Applying to Dental Hygiene School(17:26) Difficulties in Dental Hygiene School for Andrew(21:12) Andrew's Advice to the Future RDH
Episode Overview In this thought-provoking episode, Tim Ives joins the show for an in-depth conversation on the evolving role of dental hygienists, the ongoing challenges in oral health, and the importance of behavior change and communication in achieving better patient outcomes. The discussion delves into dental education, interprofessional collaboration, measuring success in hygiene, and innovative ideas for the profession's future, such as independent hygiene practices and high street outreach. Key Topics Defining the Role of the Dental Hygienist: Tim Ives challenges listeners to rethink the traditional image of the hygienist and advocates for a broader understanding among patients, dentists, and hygienists themselves. Barriers to Change in Dental Health: Discussion on why oral diseases like dental caries and periodontal disease remain prevalent and the systemic issues preventing progress. Measuring Success in Hygiene: How hygienists can (and should) measure patient health outcomes, and why communication and behavior change skills should be prioritized. Business vs. Healthcare: The difficulties in balancing profitability and genuine health care—especially in corporate/group practice settings. Ideas for the Future: Envisioning hygienists as independent professionals on the high street, specialists in behavioral change, and as accessible advisors to the public. Education Pathways and Research: Insight into the innovative programs at O'Hehir University, including international bachelor's and master's degrees for dental hygienists, and the recently launched journal publishing condensed (400-word) research papers. Behavioral Change & Stress in Oral Health: Exploring newer research that ties socioeconomic status, stress, and cortisol to dental caries risk, and the need to address systemic social issues to truly improve health. Professionalism & Interprofessional Education: The impact of UK programs where hygienists and dentists are trained side by side, and how this fosters professionalism and teamwork. Direct Access & Practice Ownership: How changes in UK policy now allow hygienists to own practices, employ dentists, and offer direct patient access. Personal Reflections: Tim Ives shares his candid views on career development and success, plus a fun closing discussion on football and Wrexham's promotion odds. O'Hehir University Programs 6-month Bachelor's program — open globally to licensed dental hygienists 18-month Master's program — focused on oral health promotion, leadership, and research New journal featuring concise, practice-relevant research summaries Learn more and contact Tim Ives: Email: tim@ohehiruniversity.com O'Hehir University Website: https://ohehiruniversity.org/ Connect For more information about O'Hehir University or to reach Tim Ives Email: tim@ohehiruniversity.com Shout-Out Huge thanks to Tim Ives for his insights and dedication to the profession, and to all listeners for supporting these important conversations that help shape the future of dental hygiene. Stay Connected Subscribe to A Tale of Two Hygienists on your favorite podcast platform Follow on social media Sign up for the newsletter Thanks for tuning in!
Episode Overview In this thought-provoking episode, Tim Ives joins the show for an in-depth conversation on the evolving role of dental hygienists, the ongoing challenges in oral health, and the importance of behavior change and communication in achieving better patient outcomes. The discussion delves into dental education, interprofessional collaboration, measuring success in hygiene, and innovative ideas for the profession's future, such as independent hygiene practices and high street outreach. Key Topics Defining the Role of the Dental Hygienist: Tim Ives challenges listeners to rethink the traditional image of the hygienist and advocates for a broader understanding among patients, dentists, and hygienists themselves. Barriers to Change in Dental Health: Discussion on why oral diseases like dental caries and periodontal disease remain prevalent and the systemic issues preventing progress. Measuring Success in Hygiene: How hygienists can (and should) measure patient health outcomes, and why communication and behavior change skills should be prioritized. Business vs. Healthcare: The difficulties in balancing profitability and genuine health care—especially in corporate/group practice settings. Ideas for the Future: Envisioning hygienists as independent professionals on the high street, specialists in behavioral change, and as accessible advisors to the public. Education Pathways and Research: Insight into the innovative programs at O'Hehir University, including international bachelor's and master's degrees for dental hygienists, and the recently launched journal publishing condensed (400-word) research papers. Behavioral Change & Stress in Oral Health: Exploring newer research that ties socioeconomic status, stress, and cortisol to dental caries risk, and the need to address systemic social issues to truly improve health. Professionalism & Interprofessional Education: The impact of UK programs where hygienists and dentists are trained side by side, and how this fosters professionalism and teamwork. Direct Access & Practice Ownership: How changes in UK policy now allow hygienists to own practices, employ dentists, and offer direct patient access. Personal Reflections: Tim Ives shares his candid views on career development and success, plus a fun closing discussion on football and Wrexham's promotion odds. O'Hehir University Programs 6-month Bachelor's program — open globally to licensed dental hygienists 18-month Master's program — focused on oral health promotion, leadership, and research New journal featuring concise, practice-relevant research summaries Learn more and contact Tim Ives: Email: tim@ohehiruniversity.com O'Hehir University Website: https://ohehiruniversity.org/ Connect For more information about O'Hehir University or to reach Tim Ives Email: tim@ohehiruniversity.com Shout-Out Huge thanks to Tim Ives for his insights and dedication to the profession, and to all listeners for supporting these important conversations that help shape the future of dental hygiene. Stay Connected Subscribe to A Tale of Two Hygienists on your favorite podcast platform Follow on social media Sign up for the newsletter Thanks for tuning in!
Episode Overview This episode is a recording of a CE-Caliber presentation led by Tanya Dunlap, Vice President of Clinical and Business Development, and research liaison for Perio Protect. Key Topics Covered Chronic Oral Infections & Systemic Health: Tanya Dunlap explains why chronic oral infections are not just a local problem, but can affect overall health—especially for patients with conditions like type 2 diabetes, cardiovascular disease, and more. Prescription Tray Therapy Explained: Learn the science behind Perio Protect's periodontal medicament carrier trays—how they deliver low-concentration hydrogen peroxide deep into periodontal pockets to fight infection and improve gum health. Case Studies & Clinical Outcomes: See real-world examples of patients who used Perio Protect, including those with crowns, implants, advanced periodontal disease, and systemic health concerns. Hear about measurable reductions in bleeding, improved gum scores, and even systemic improvements in markers like hemoglobin A1c. Impact on Restorations & Implants: Tanya Dunlap discusses how Perio Protect can help maintain the longevity of crowns and implants, prevent peri-implant mucositis, and support healthy tissue around restorations. Patient Communication & Compliance: Tips for presenting the treatment in a way patients can understand, including how to use the "gum score" as an objective health metric. Strategies for boosting patient commitment and overcoming common objections. Safety, Usage, and Cost: Answers to audience questions on sensitivity, safety of low-concentration peroxide, compatibility with other dental products, recommended usage duration, and the typical costs for trays and gel. Insurance & Coding: Insights into dental insurance coverage for Perio Protect, recommended CDT codes, and how to handle FSA/HSA payments for patients. Featured Speakers Tanya Dunlap Resources & Links For more information, visit Perio Protect's website or check out their research at periprotect.com/research. You can also find additional patient-facing materials and educational brochures mentioned in the episode. Takeaways Whether you're a dental professional looking to improve patient outcomes, or just curious about the link between oral and systemic health, this episode is packed with actionable insights and practical tips. Hear audience questions answered live, learn how Perio Protect fits into comprehensive care plans, and see how this adjunctive therapy can elevate your clinical results. Connect Don't miss out on future updates—follow A Tale of Two Hygienists, subscribe, and sign up for the newsletter! If you have further questions or want access to slides or studies mentioned, be sure to contact Tanya Dunlap directly via the contact information provided in the episode. Thank you for listening!
Episode Overview This episode is a recording of a CE-Caliber presentation led by Tanya Dunlap, Vice President of Clinical and Business Development, and research liaison for Perio Protect. Key Topics Covered Chronic Oral Infections & Systemic Health: Tanya Dunlap explains why chronic oral infections are not just a local problem, but can affect overall health—especially for patients with conditions like type 2 diabetes, cardiovascular disease, and more. Prescription Tray Therapy Explained: Learn the science behind Perio Protect's periodontal medicament carrier trays—how they deliver low-concentration hydrogen peroxide deep into periodontal pockets to fight infection and improve gum health. Case Studies & Clinical Outcomes: See real-world examples of patients who used Perio Protect, including those with crowns, implants, advanced periodontal disease, and systemic health concerns. Hear about measurable reductions in bleeding, improved gum scores, and even systemic improvements in markers like hemoglobin A1c. Impact on Restorations & Implants: Tanya Dunlap discusses how Perio Protect can help maintain the longevity of crowns and implants, prevent peri-implant mucositis, and support healthy tissue around restorations. Patient Communication & Compliance: Tips for presenting the treatment in a way patients can understand, including how to use the "gum score" as an objective health metric. Strategies for boosting patient commitment and overcoming common objections. Safety, Usage, and Cost: Answers to audience questions on sensitivity, safety of low-concentration peroxide, compatibility with other dental products, recommended usage duration, and the typical costs for trays and gel. Insurance & Coding: Insights into dental insurance coverage for Perio Protect, recommended CDT codes, and how to handle FSA/HSA payments for patients. Featured Speakers Tanya Dunlap Resources & Links For more information, visit Perio Protect's website or check out their research at periprotect.com/research. You can also find additional patient-facing materials and educational brochures mentioned in the episode. Takeaways Whether you're a dental professional looking to improve patient outcomes, or just curious about the link between oral and systemic health, this episode is packed with actionable insights and practical tips. Hear audience questions answered live, learn how Perio Protect fits into comprehensive care plans, and see how this adjunctive therapy can elevate your clinical results. Connect Don't miss out on future updates—follow A Tale of Two Hygienists, subscribe, and sign up for the newsletter! If you have further questions or want access to slides or studies mentioned, be sure to contact Tanya Dunlap directly via the contact information provided in the episode. Thank you for listening!
This episode is a special interview where Alan is the guest! He's interviewed by his long-time friend and podcasting colleague, Andrew Johnston, the host of A Tale of Two Hygienists, as Andrew wraps up his run on that show. The conversation is a blend of dentistry, business, and the endurance of creative work. Dr. Mead shares his experience attending a Bioclear course and the challenge of changing established habits in dental practice. The core of the discussion centers on the evolution and future of dental podcasting, including the shift from audio-only to video/social content, and the role of AI in show production. They also dive into deeper topics about the future of the dental profession, the pressures of student debt on new dentists, the importance of longevity and permanence in practice, and the struggle to find social fulfillment outside of one's career. Dr. Mead offers sage advice for new podcasters, stressing the importance of engagement over download numbers, genuine conversation, and making the show about the listener. Some links from the show: A Tale of Two Hygienists Voices of Dentistry The Bioclear Learning Center Join the Very Dental Facebook group using the password "Timmerman," "Bioclear," Hornbrook," "Gary," "McWethy," "Papa Randy" or "Lipscomb!" The Very Dental Podcast network is and will remain free to download. If you'd like to support the shows you love at Very Dental then show a little love to the people that support us! -- Crazy Dental has everything you need from cotton rolls to equipment and everything in between and the best prices you'll find anywhere! If you head over to verydentalpodcast.com/crazy and use coupon code "VERYDENTAL10" you'll get another 10% off your order! Go save yourself some money and support the show all at the same time! -- The Wonderist Agency is basically a one stop shop for marketing your practice and your brand. From logo redesign to a full service marketing plan, the folks at Wonderist have you covered! Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/wonderist! -- Enova Illumination makes the very best in loupes and headlights, including their new ergonomic angled prism loupes! They also distribute loupe mounted cameras and even the amazing line of Zumax microscopes! If you want to help out the podcast while upping your magnification and headlight game, you need to head over to verydentalpodcast.com/enova to see their whole line of products! -- CAD-Ray offers the best service on a wide variety of digital scanners, printers, mills and even their very own browser based design software, Clinux! And now you can take a look at the brand new scanner from Shining 3D...the Elf! CAD-Ray has been a huge supporter of the Very Dental Podcast Network and I can tell you that you'll get no better service on everything digital dentistry than the folks from CAD-Ray. Go check them out at verydentalpodcast.com/CADRay!
Welcome back to another insightful episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists! This week, Andrew Johnston is joined by none other than Dr. Alan Mead—podcaster, dentist, mentor, and community builder. Dr. Mead shares how the dental podcasting landscape has evolved over the years, what it takes to maintain endurance in dentistry, and how the profession continues to change. Highlights from This Episode: Podcasting Roots & Mentorship: Andrew Johnston credits Dr. Alan Mead as the reason this very podcast exists, touching on early Facebook communities, learning tech, and the supportive culture of dental podcasters. CE, Learning, and Growth: Dr. Mead discusses his experience at recent Bioclear courses, the tendency to fall back into comfortable habits, and the challenges of integrating new techniques into everyday practice. The Changing Face of Dental Podcasting: The conversation covers the shift from traditional audio podcasts to video and social-focused content, the pros and cons of new tools, and how AI is changing audio editing and show notes. Dentistry Over the Years: Reflections on what's changed in the profession, from new grads facing massive debt, to decreasing engagement on platforms like Facebook, and the difference in career expectations from Dr. Mead's early days to now. Advice for New Podcasters: Dr. Mead offers sage advice for anyone starting a podcast: don't obsess over download numbers, focus on genuine engagement and conversation, make your show personal and relatable, and always prioritize the audience's needs. Looking Ahead – The Future of Dentistry: Thoughtful (and candid) takes on whether Dr. Mead would encourage a new grad to enter the profession, the importance of finding fulfillment outside of work, and how impermanence—among both dental staff and patients—might affect long-term patient relationships. Voices of Dentistry Podcast and Event Dr. Alan Mead also talks about the return of the Voices of Dentistry conference—a unique gathering for dental podcasters, listeners, and anyone interested in the dental podcasting community. Voices of Dentistry 2026 Dates: January 16th and 17th, 2026 Location: Implant Pathway, Arizona Details & Tickets: Voices of Dentistry website Note: Limited tickets due to fire codes! This is an intimate event with great speakers and loads of podcasters—not to be missed if you're a fan of dental podcasts. You can also check out the Voices of Dentistry Podcast for discussions with some of the biggest names in dental podcasting. Connect with Us: Follow and engage on social media! Don't forget to subscribe and sign up for our newsletter via our website. Thank You for Listening! If you enjoyed this episode, consider leaving a review and sharing with a friend. Have thoughts or want to connect? Reach out to the show or join the discussion on Facebook. This episode is a production of Endeavor Business Media.
Welcome back to another insightful episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists! This week, Andrew Johnston is joined by none other than Dr. Alan Mead—podcaster, dentist, mentor, and community builder. Dr. Mead shares how the dental podcasting landscape has evolved over the years, what it takes to maintain endurance in dentistry, and how the profession continues to change. Highlights from This Episode: Podcasting Roots & Mentorship: Andrew Johnston credits Dr. Alan Mead as the reason this very podcast exists, touching on early Facebook communities, learning tech, and the supportive culture of dental podcasters. CE, Learning, and Growth: Dr. Mead discusses his experience at recent Bioclear courses, the tendency to fall back into comfortable habits, and the challenges of integrating new techniques into everyday practice. The Changing Face of Dental Podcasting: The conversation covers the shift from traditional audio podcasts to video and social-focused content, the pros and cons of new tools, and how AI is changing audio editing and show notes. Dentistry Over the Years: Reflections on what's changed in the profession, from new grads facing massive debt, to decreasing engagement on platforms like Facebook, and the difference in career expectations from Dr. Mead's early days to now. Advice for New Podcasters: Dr. Mead offers sage advice for anyone starting a podcast: don't obsess over download numbers, focus on genuine engagement and conversation, make your show personal and relatable, and always prioritize the audience's needs. Looking Ahead – The Future of Dentistry: Thoughtful (and candid) takes on whether Dr. Mead would encourage a new grad to enter the profession, the importance of finding fulfillment outside of work, and how impermanence—among both dental staff and patients—might affect long-term patient relationships. Voices of Dentistry Podcast and Event Dr. Alan Mead also talks about the return of the Voices of Dentistry conference—a unique gathering for dental podcasters, listeners, and anyone interested in the dental podcasting community. Voices of Dentistry 2026 Dates: January 16th and 17th, 2026 Location: Implant Pathway, Arizona Details & Tickets: Voices of Dentistry website Note: Limited tickets due to fire codes! This is an intimate event with great speakers and loads of podcasters—not to be missed if you're a fan of dental podcasts. You can also check out the Voices of Dentistry Podcast for discussions with some of the biggest names in dental podcasting. Connect with Us: Follow and engage on social media! Don't forget to subscribe and sign up for our newsletter via our website. Thank You for Listening! If you enjoyed this episode, consider leaving a review and sharing with a friend. Have thoughts or want to connect? Reach out to the show or join the discussion on Facebook. This episode is a production of Endeavor Business Media.
Episode Summary: This tipisode from "A Tale of Two Hygienists" features Dr. Sadie, a periodontist from Maryland, sharing insights on the implementation of Perio Protect in her multi-specialty practice. Hosted by Tanya Dunlap, the conversation delves into the evolution of Perio Protect's role in patient care, how its usage has expanded across multiple locations, and the impact on patients' outcomes and retention. **In Partnership with PerioProtect visit http://www.Perioprotect.com Key Topics Discussed: Introduction to Perio Protect: How Dr. Sadie was introduced to Perio Protect and her initial experiences after a colleague recommended it in 2018. Implementing Perio Protect: Transition from selective case usage to a comprehensive protocol adopted across five practice locations. Benefits and Expanded Applications: Improvements in patient outcomes such as reduced bleeding, better pocket depths, and successful management of difficult cases (like unknown gum etiologies and patients on seizure medications). Patient Motivation and Maintenance: Discussion on how seeing improvements with Perio Protect motivates patients to maintain better oral hygiene, leading to long-term gum health and even saving teeth from extraction. Use with Implant Patients: Evolution from using Perio Protect only for cases of peri-implantitis to proactively recommending it for all implant maintenance. Case Presentation Tips: Dr. Sadie shares strategies to introduce Perio Protect to patients—including using testimonial videos and explaining the science behind hydrogen peroxide as an adjunctive tool. Notable Quotes: "I thought it was just for scaling and root planings, maybe just hygiene patients. But as I started seeing positive results...I started implementing it for all my perio patients." — Dr. Sadie "It's motivating...for the patients to see that." — Dr. Sadie "The hardest part for clinicians who are just getting started with Perio Protect is case presentation." Action Items for Listeners: Consider how adjunctive therapy like Perio Protect can enhance your workflow and patient outcomes. Use patient testimonials and clear explanations to boost case acceptance. Subscribe and visit the podcast website for more tips and updates! Connect With Us: Follow the Podcast and guests on social media, subscribe for updates, and sign up for the newsletter at the podcast website! Production Credits: A Tale of Two Hygienists, brought to you by Endeavor Business Media. Thanks for tuning in! Don't forget to subscribe and join us for the next tipisode.
Episode Summary: This tipisode from "A Tale of Two Hygienists" features Dr. Sadie, a periodontist from Maryland, sharing insights on the implementation of Perio Protect in her multi-specialty practice. Hosted by Tanya Dunlap, the conversation delves into the evolution of Perio Protect's role in patient care, how its usage has expanded across multiple locations, and the impact on patients' outcomes and retention. **In Partnership with PerioProtect visit http://www.Perioprotect.com Key Topics Discussed: Introduction to Perio Protect: How Dr. Sadie was introduced to Perio Protect and her initial experiences after a colleague recommended it in 2018. Implementing Perio Protect: Transition from selective case usage to a comprehensive protocol adopted across five practice locations. Benefits and Expanded Applications: Improvements in patient outcomes such as reduced bleeding, better pocket depths, and successful management of difficult cases (like unknown gum etiologies and patients on seizure medications). Patient Motivation and Maintenance: Discussion on how seeing improvements with Perio Protect motivates patients to maintain better oral hygiene, leading to long-term gum health and even saving teeth from extraction. Use with Implant Patients: Evolution from using Perio Protect only for cases of peri-implantitis to proactively recommending it for all implant maintenance. Case Presentation Tips: Dr. Sadie shares strategies to introduce Perio Protect to patients—including using testimonial videos and explaining the science behind hydrogen peroxide as an adjunctive tool. Notable Quotes: "I thought it was just for scaling and root planings, maybe just hygiene patients. But as I started seeing positive results...I started implementing it for all my perio patients." — Dr. Sadie "It's motivating...for the patients to see that." — Dr. Sadie "The hardest part for clinicians who are just getting started with Perio Protect is case presentation." Action Items for Listeners: Consider how adjunctive therapy like Perio Protect can enhance your workflow and patient outcomes. Use patient testimonials and clear explanations to boost case acceptance. Subscribe and visit the podcast website for more tips and updates! Connect With Us: Follow the Podcast and guests on social media, subscribe for updates, and sign up for the newsletter at the podcast website! Production Credits: A Tale of Two Hygienists, brought to you by Endeavor Business Media. Thanks for tuning in! Don't forget to subscribe and join us for the next tipisode.
This week on Dentistry Unmasked, David and Pam sit down with Andrew Johnston from A Tale of Two Hygienists podcast to unpack what really happens when leadership goes wrong. From DSOs to private practices, Andrew shares eye-opening stories that show how weak leadership doesn't just stay at the top—it filters into workflows, team morale, and even patient care. Curious what the signs are that your leadership may be failing?
In this rebroadcasted episode, we get a chance to talk with Brandon Evert who was, at the time, a D4 student, and Host of Extracting Wisdom Podcast. Brandon talks about his journey, his choice to join the dental field, and what lead him to pursue a career in the military once he graduates. This is a pathway we all should know more about to help the next generation of dental professionals! Episode Highlights Brandon's Journey Medicine vs. Dentistry Being a Dentist in the Military Internship with Dr. Moody Digital Protocol Equipment Military Placement Quotes “I'm very lucky to have this scholarship and to know I have a 4 year job after school.” “Me being the dental nerd that I am, I searched for dental podcasts.” “This digital stuff is not new, but at a dental school it is often unheard of.” “Squeaky wheel gets the grease.” “This is the best scholarship you will find, you will not find another that will cover 100% of your school and give you a stipend.” “My husband is a dentist and that student loan debt is huge.” “I like doing SRPs, IF I have the right equipment.” “The only reason you are ‘soft' is because your instruments are so dull you are not doing anything.” “The newer generation of dentistry is more inclusive.” “I wish we had more of a team approach, because that is real life.” “It is the blind leading the blind sometimes.” Links https://www.instagram.com/brandonevertdmdstudent/ https://extractingwisdom.libsyn.com/website A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage AToTH on Facebook AToTH on Instagram AToTH on LinkedIn
In this rebroadcasted episode, we get a chance to talk with Brandon Evert who was, at the time, a D4 student, and Host of Extracting Wisdom Podcast. Brandon talks about his journey, his choice to join the dental field, and what lead him to pursue a career in the military once he graduates. This is a pathway we all should know more about to help the next generation of dental professionals! Episode Highlights Brandon's Journey Medicine vs. Dentistry Being a Dentist in the Military Internship with Dr. Moody Digital Protocol Equipment Military Placement Quotes “I'm very lucky to have this scholarship and to know I have a 4 year job after school.” “Me being the dental nerd that I am, I searched for dental podcasts.” “This digital stuff is not new, but at a dental school it is often unheard of.” “Squeaky wheel gets the grease.” “This is the best scholarship you will find, you will not find another that will cover 100% of your school and give you a stipend.” “My husband is a dentist and that student loan debt is huge.” “I like doing SRPs, IF I have the right equipment.” “The only reason you are ‘soft' is because your instruments are so dull you are not doing anything.” “The newer generation of dentistry is more inclusive.” “I wish we had more of a team approach, because that is real life.” “It is the blind leading the blind sometimes.” Links https://www.instagram.com/brandonevertdmdstudent/ https://extractingwisdom.libsyn.com/website A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast A Tale of Two Hygienists homepage AToTH on Facebook AToTH on Instagram AToTH on LinkedIn
Everyone has their own opinion when it comes to holiday bonuses, parties, and vacation time so we went to the social medias and found out some of the opinions, added our own two cents, and a special crossover episode was formed! Join this very special collaboration between Dentistry Unmasked and A Tale Of Two Hygienists. We get real on all things holiday bonuses!!
If we had a dollar for every doctor or team member who brought a bah humbug attitude to the holiday bonus table ... we'd have plenty of money for parties, presents and paying more. Join this very special collaboration between Dentistry Unmasked and A Tale Of Two Hygienists. We get real on all things holiday bonuses!!
Welcome to the 150th episode of the Tooth or Dare Podcast with Irene Iancu (@toothlife.irene) and this week's guest Andrew Johnston (@ataleoftwohygienists). Irene and Andrew have a lot in common - they are both registered dental hygienists, seasoned podcasters, and passionate about business - so don't be surprised if you forget who's interviewing who! With so much focus on the clinical side of things in school, new hygienists may find themselves unprepared for the ins and outs of job hunting, working with others in a real office, or even running their own practice. What separates a successful dental office from a struggling one, and how can you tell during a job interview? What can you do as a clinician to keep up with the standard of care? Andrew is not afraid to share everything he's learned from his years as a hygienist, including his most embarrassing mistakes. Plus, hear the story of how Irene got shut down vlogging through restorative school. Andrew Johnston: Andrew has been a registered dental hygienist for almost 15 years practicing in private practice and corporate settings. Always with the mind for business he was promoted through the positions becoming a Director of Dental Hygiene in 2020. In 2015 he co-founded a podcast called A Tale of Two Hygienists which started off as weekly shows that evolved into thrice weekly releases. Due to its popularity and monetization strategies, he sold his company to Endeavor Business Media where he currently works as Director of Podcast Content and Strategy. Andrew attributes his success to hard work, a lot of luck, and always keeping the focus on the patient's health outcomes. For more information and to connect with Andrew, check out his social media profiles: Instagram: @ataleoftwohygienists LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/andrewjohnstonrdh A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast Website: ataleoftwohygienists.com If you made it all the way down here, hit a like and share a comment. Until next time, Peace out peeps! ✌️ _______________________________________
It's time for the end of year wrap up for A Tale of Two Hygienists so we are bringing you a really low key insider peek to a conversation I had with Anna, Heather, and Lizz. We talk a bit about the importance of a community and podcasting. We talk about holiday parties, Christmas bonuses, gifts for the boss, and so much more. Thank you so much for listening, sharing, and making amazing suggestions again this year. We have lots of new voices and topics for next year so be sure to join us again in 2024!
In this episode, I was joined by Andrew Johnston, co-founder of “A Tale of Two Hygienists,” and the man responsible for The Dental Podcast Network at Dental Economics. He's also a restorative hygienist. Also making an appearance was Editor-In-Chief at Dr. Bicuspid and my Chew On This Podcast co-host, Kevin Henry. We discussed some of the noticeable movements that have been shaking the current norms in the dental industry: Artificial Intelligence: We had to discuss the world of artificial intelligence (AI) and its industry impact. From its potential applications in administrative tasks and clinical settings to concerns about accuracy and overreliance, we tackled the evolving role of AI in the dental field for 2023 and beyond. Compacts between states for dental licenses: We're facing challenges with dental professionals obtaining licenses in different states and the impact on competency and efficiency. The concept of compacts is significant as it highlights the need for agreement on education standards and scope of practice across states. This issue of differing standards and practices has implications for the mobility and professional development of dental practitioners. And yes, we go into what a compact actually means! Evolving landscape of industry events: Declining attendance at dental conferences introduces financial strain to vendors. It's actually helped the rise of online CE platforms. There's a need for a different approach to attract quality education and speakers to create an amazing attendee experience. Let's see if 2024 brings improvements but we should be prepared for new developments. Connect with Andrew Johnston at A Tale of Two Hygienists Connect with Kevin Henry on his IG page and at Kevin Speaks Dental Don't forget to check out my other podcast, Chew on This - A Dental Podcast!, also with Kevin as my co-host. ------------- Huge thanks to Curve Dental for sponsoring this episode! Grab a demo with them through the link below (no affiliate money to me) and see if they're a fit. curvedental.com/duncan ------------- My new insurance course is out! Dental Insurance Design and Management is geared toward those who want to understand the how and why of insurance. As a loyal podcast listener, please use "NTMT" for a $75 courtesy toward your investment. If you like the show then I'd appreciate a good rating. Tell your friends. Even podcasters ask for referrals! ------------- Visit odysseymgmt.com to check out my book, webinars and courses.