Conversations With Coco + Friends

Hey, Cowe's!! This week on the pod, we sit down and chat about how we, media-savvy women, navigate social media, where nothing is EVER as it seems. We spill the deets on the accounts we love, what kind of social media we avoid, and how we find inspo in this wildly saturated world. Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Hi friends! We are finally back with a new episode -- don't kill us *covers eyes*, our summer schedule has been insane. Anywho, this week we are back with an episode on red flags

*RE-RELEASE* We've got another episode with the OG trio this week where we talk to you about how the heck to get going on that thing you've maybe been pushing off. We talk about how to get that side hustle off the ground, how to fail faster and some of the things that have helped each of us take the steps needed to get going.Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

*Re-Release* To close out Pride Month, we are re-releasing our episode with Just Jamie, for a tricky talk about the nuances involved in the transgender-lived experience. We are so grateful that Jamie took the time to answer some very intimate and vulnerable questions we had for her, so that we could, in turn, help to bring awareness and education to our followers. Make sure you check out Jamie on TikTok too!Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

COWE'S -- this week's episode is a "pinch me" moment if we've ever had one. Our latest guest is none other than the legendary makeup artist, Sir John, who has worked with Beyoncé since 2010. He is the newly minted Chief Creative Officer at CTZN Cosmetics, a company that's products we've been using for years, that we are actually investors in.This episode is INCREDIBLE and is full of great tips and tricks from Sir John himself, discussions about what it means to be a Black creative in this space, and the impact that BLM has had on how he moves in the business world now. Do not forget to follow Sir John and CTZN Cosmetics on Instagram Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This week, we sit down with Arati Sharma, founder of Backbone Angels, a collective of angel investors who invest in women and non-binary founders, specifically in Black, Indigenous, and Women of Colour-led companies. Arati walks us through what it means to be an Angel Investor, how she got here (hint: she was one of the first Shopify members in Canada), and what's next for her and her team. You can follow Arati on Instagram, and check out Backbone Angels and their dope group of investors.Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Hey, Cowe's!! This week, we chat with one of our friends, the amazing Serena Anthony. She is the Chief People Officer of North America (you heard that right), at GroupM, one of the top media agencies in the entire WORLD. She gives us all the tea on what Talent Recruiters are looking for when they find and hire new talent, and also, tells us about the great resignation -- which, is actually a thing. You can follow Serena on Instagram, and connect with her on LinkedIn as well.Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Y'all, this week we sit down and chop it up with the notoriously private, Mr. Lewin -- curator of the massive Meme page @MrLewinn and long-time stand-up comedian. We chat about how he stays original, the incredible success of his meme page, and why, when it comes to stand-up comedy, there are no "off-limits" topics, but on his meme page, there definitely are.Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Welcome Back, Cowe's!! This week we sit down with Canada's Dating Coach, and TikTok baddie, Chantal Heide to talk about dating, her no kissing for 3 months rule (and yes, we literally mean NO KISSING), and how she took the life lessons she learned from her time as a stripper and parlayed that into an entire business.You can find Chantal on Instagram and TikTok, and you can find all of her best-selling books on her website, including "No More Assholes".Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

We're baccckkkkk! This week on a brand new episode of CWC + Friends, we sit down with one of the few female real estate developers in Canada, Priscilla Facey, Founder of Build Up Development Co. We chat with Priscilla about what is holding people back from investing in Real Estate, things we should all consider before investing, and how she changed her money mindset -- *hint* she didn't grow up rich, so her story is one of perseverance. You can follow Priscilla on Instagram for more tips and tricks on how you can get started on your real estate journey.Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Welcome back Cowe's!! This week's episode is long-awaited, and one we've been dying to talk about -- what it means to have "Good Hair" and how that's impacted each of our journies differently as Black and Bi-Racial women. We talk about our first hair memories, the ridiculous things people have said and done to our hair (read: trying to touch it without permission) and our best-kept secrets. This episode was sponsored by our amazing friends at SHARK Canada, who you can follow on IG and you can check out the HyperAIR blowdryer we mentioned in the episode, HERE. Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Alright, friends, we are back with a follow-up episode on all things fertility -- if you haven't heard our first episode on this, you can check it out here. We sit down with Dr. Arnold Mahesan, a fertility specialist here in Toronto, and we get into the nitty-gritty about all things fertility. He breaks down exactly what you need to ask your doctor, what are some of the warning signs you should look out for, and just how complex the fertility process can be. We even have a surprise appearance from our friend Roxy Earle, who is married to Dr. Mahesan. Follow Arnold on Instagram here. Follow Roxy on Instagram here. Check out their dope new app Ana here.Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

In honour of International Transgender Day of Visibility, we had the great pleasure of sitting down with Just Jamie, for a tricky talk about the nuances involved in the transgender-lived experience. We are so grateful that Jamie took the time to answer some very intimate and vulnerable questions we had for her, so that we could, in turn, help to bring awareness and education to our followers. Make sure you check out Jamie on TikTok too!Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This is an episode that is long-awaited, but incredibly timely. So long-awaited, in fact, that we actually recorded a version of it in 2021 -- but it wasn't quite right. Today, we sit down with Halla Rafati to discuss how she, a smart, successful, beautiful powerhouse, got swindled by her ex-partner; in much the same way that the ladies of Netflix's Tinder Swindler, did too. Don't worry, Halla dishes out some GOOD advice on how you, can avoid getting swindled. You can follow @Halla on IG too!Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This episode of CWC + Friends is one of our favourite episodes and one that we've been wanting to do for a long time. Today, we sat down with Avery Francis, founder of Bloom, a company that helps other companies create access to impactful and equitable hiring practices. In other words, she is a Diversity, Equity and Inclusion expert; and we ask her all of the big questions on DE&I, and let us tell you -- we learned a lot. Here is a link to our Derrick Jaxn episode that we mentionedHere is the Indigenous Land Locator Number that Avery mentioned: 1-907-312-5085Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

What better way to celebrate #InternationalWomensDay than to sit with our beautiful friends Amy Shio (aka @lesbest) and Vivian Kaye, at the Four Seasons Hotel Toronto, to discuss the experiences of Women of Colour in Luxury spaces. We go through all of our experiences operating in luxury spaces, the good, and the bad. Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Buckle up, Cowe's because this week, the three of us discuss Toxic Masculinity and the rounds it's making on TikTok. It all started after seeing the Brittany Renner vs. Fresh and Fit viral TikToks, which you can check out here and here. We deep dive into a conversation on why toxic masculinity is running rampant online, we talk about the "used vagina and disrespectful mouth" guy on TikTok (you remember, the 5'1 guy) and we even get to discussing the other guy who says he'd leave his wife (a wife he doesn't have by the way) if she didn't snap back and go to the gym after having their kid.Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Your favourite trio is back after a much-needed, break for the holidays! We're diving right back into things with the highly requested 72 Questions Pt II (ish), where much to our dismay, we aren't drunk. Nevertheless, we are happy to be back and in action, and we promise you, this episode won't let you down. Here are links to a bunch of great stuff we reference in the episode: Listen to our first 71 Questions episode here Coco's favourite influencer right now is @MdMotivatorP's favourite influencer right now is @MaggieMacDonaldYou can watch Tinx's explanation of diet coke rankings hereFollow Coco on TikTok hereMake sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Buckle up Cowe's!! This week we sit down with our friend Jyoti Matharoo, one-half of the Matharoo sisters. She spills the tea on her scandal a few years back with the Nigerian Oil Tycoon (hint: it's not what you heard in the media), tells us everything about her new haircare brand Oil Tycoon (god, this is the best branding EVER), and how to get a SNATCHURAL BBL. This is an honest and refreshing conversation on so many topics, so make sure to listen in and tell us what you think!You can follow Jyothi on Instagram and if you want to purchase her BBL guide, you can find it HERE. If you want to check out the NY Times article we referenced, you can read it HERE.Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This week on Conversations With Coco and Friends, we have the legendary Devon Brooks, founder, and creator of Blo Blow Dry-Bar and CEO of Sphere, a platform to help you find a coach for whatever you need! We get into how she's come up with not one, but TWO unicorn startup ideas, how she deals with failure, and how she challenges her fears by making herself uncomfortable.You can follow Devon on Instagram HERE and her company Sphere HERE.Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Hey Cowes! This week we brought you a trio episode with 72 (ish) questions between the three of us. We talk about everything from the best advice you've ever been given, to when we feel sexiest.Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

*RE-RELEASE* Buckle up Cowes, this week Cleo and Pilar are in the hot seats as Coco grills them about all things dating. Cleo talks about the time she went viral with her Entanglement situation on Twitter and the top funniest responses she received. Pilar talks about that one time she got ghosted (why she got ghosted is heavily up for debate), and we investigate what are the best dating platforms out there for singles. Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Welcome back Cowe's! We have one of our favourite Toronto baddies with us on this week's episode, Dr. Linda Khadivi, founder of 1Clinic here in Toronto. In this week's episode, we talk to her about botox, fillers, and what each of us can do at different stages in our lives to take care of our health, both inside and out. Don't forget, HEALTH IS WEALTH.You can follow Dr. Linda on Instagram, and be sure to check out 1Clinic as well.Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Hey, Cowe's! This week on CWC, we sit down with a Toronto OG, Lauren McPhillips aka This Renegade Love. Lauren is one of the OG bloggers in Toronto and has been creating dope content for a long time. In this episode, we talk about incredible advocacy during BLM (and way before that) and why not having kids wasn't even a decision for her. You can check out Lauren's blog HERE and her Instagram HERE -- make sure to follow, because she is H-I-L-A-R-I-O-U-S. Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Cowe's it's our final episode for Sexual Health Awareness Month with our amazing partners at KY-Canada. In this episode we chat with Sexual Freedom Philosopher Nicolle Hodges about BDSM, using psychedelic in the bedroom, and chastity culture. This episode is of course NSFW, so make sure your headphones are in and you're ready for another spicy conversation about all things SEX.Make sure to follow Nicolle on Instagram. You can take the BDSM test she mentions in the episode HERE and you can purchase Nicolle's book, "The Orgasm Book" HERE. Don't forget to get your FREE SAMPLE of KY-Canada Lube. Click HERE to get yours!Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Well Cowe's we are bringing you the third out of four episodes in partnership with KY-Canada for Sexual Health Awareness Month and today, we have Sex-Educator and volume squirting world record holder, Lola Jean on to discuss Sexual Mythbusters. We talk about squirting, anal, yoni balls, threesomes and so much more. Make sure to follow Lola Jean on Instagram to stay in the know about all things S-E-X. If you're interested in the jealousy resource she mentions in the podcast, you can check it out HERE.Lola-Jean mentioned trying Lubes that are Ph Balanced, and lucky for you, KY-Canada is giving away FREE SAMPLES to our listeners. Click HERE to get yours!Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

As you know by now, this month is Sexual Health Awareness Month and we've partnered with K-Y Canada to bring you dope episodes focusing on all things sex and relationships. On today's episode, we sit down and talk to "Dez", a man who has been in what we (meaning society) would label as an "open relationship" for the last 36 years with his partner. This episode is challenging and thoughtful as we talk with him about how he and his partner have successfully navigated this kind of relationship for so many years. Want to try a free sample of K-Y Canada's Naturals Lube? Click HERE to get yours!Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Buckle up Cowe's because this month is Sexual Health Awareness Month and we've partnered with KY Canada to bring you dope episodes focusing on all things S-E-X. On today's episode we chat with the wonderful Kat Kova, a sex therapist based in Toronto. We cover everything from how to communicate with your partner about sex and pleasure, toys, lube and everything in between -- we're helping you to "Become CLITerate". You can follow Kat on Instagram and if you are looking for a sex therapist, check out her website Kat Kova Therapy.Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This week's guest, Meghan Watson, founder of Bloom Psychology, knocked our socks off! In this episode, Meghan walks us through the differences between Psychologists, Psychotherapists and Psychiatrists; she teaches us a bit about Body Based Healing and how to use it in your daily life; AND she shows us how fun and play can transform your entire perspective on how you live.You can follow Meghan on Instagram to stay up to date, and if you need help finding a dope Psychotherapist or just all around amazing content, you can check out her company Bloom Psychology on IG too.Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

You asked and we answered, Cowes! This week we talk to the wonderful Dr. Ayeni, owner of Ayeni Plastic Surgery Institute on the pod and we talk all things plastic surgery and aesthetics. Dr. Ayeni is one of a handful of Black plastic surgeons in the country and he spills all the tea on what you need to know about going under the knife, or even just if you want a little botox of filler in your life. Plus, we answer the most important question you all asked... is he single.... but we won't answer that here, you'll just have to tune in to the episode to find out.You can follow Dr. Ayeni's on Instagram to stay up to date with him!Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

We're FINALLY back Cowe's with our good friend Jebril "Fresh" Jalloh, founder of Get Fresh Company. We chat about how he's stayed on his feet during the pandemic, how this crazy time has taught him to stop and celebrate the little things, and what's next for him and Get Fresh Company. Jebril's love for Toronto is on max in this episode and you'll end up with some incredible advice and tidbits from someone who has worked with the best of them.You can follow Fresh on Instagram @jbrjalloh and also remember to follow his business page, @GetFreshCompanyMake sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and chck out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

*RE-RELEASE* Cowe's, we're back with our favourite CURL-friend, Vanessa Craft! If you didn't already know, Vanessa was the first Black Editor-in-Chief at Elle Magazine Globally, and is now the Director of Content Partnerships at TikTok -- that's right, TIKTOK. We had Vanessa as our keynote speaker a few years ago at our event, Coco Con (RIP to real life events, but don't worry, we'll be back!) and our girl is spitting FACTS at us this week. Like mic-dropping truths.Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

*RE-RELEASE* If you haven't heard of Paul Jefferies aka Nineteen85, aka half of DVSN then we don't even know where you've been. Lucky for you, we've brought him right to your air-pods for an incredible discussion on his life as a music producer, how he diversified his portfolio and became a business man, the BLM movement and the real truth about owning your own masters in the music industry. Make sure to follow Paul on Instagram.Follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

*RE RELEASE* Shannae is one an OG influencer -- you know, the ones who started in the MySpace days with the Top 8 Friends (we might be dating ourselves with the pop culture reference, but that's okay). We are so excited to sit down with Shannae who spilled every secret she has on how to become an influencer, how to make your money and why it's okay to fail and get back up again. Shannae is a wealth of information and runs one of the most successful influencer agencies that specializes in working with influencers of colour, Kensington Grey.Make sure to follow Shannae on Instagram.Follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

*RE-RELEASE* On this episode of Conversations With Coco + Friends, we sit down with the Roxy Earle to discuss Fat Phobia, Fashion and "Inclusivity". You may have seen her on Real Housewives of Toronto, or killing her clothing line collaboration with Le Chateau, speaking at the Women of Influence conference and just generally being a badass social media influencer.Make sure to follow us @CocoandCowe and check our our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can find Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

RE-RELEASE This week on the podcast, we get back to our roots with just the three of us. We decided we wanted for all of you to get to know us a little better by playing the card game "We're Not Really Strangers" card game, but with a twist... and by "twist" we just mean we thought it would be fun to get drunk and play. We hope you enjoy getting to know a bit more about us!Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Friends... Hold on to your hats, because this conversation is one of our favourites EVER. We sit down with Shan Boodram, the Internet's most sought-after, certified sex educator, dating coach and relationship expert with over 40 million YouTube views and author of best selling book, The Game of Desire: 5 Surprising Secrets to Dating with Dominance and Getting What You Want. During this conversation, we talk about dating, love, sex and we get very candid in one of the best chats we had on our trip to LA. Make sure to follow Shan on Instagram.Follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can find Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Dhru Purohit, Founder of Broken Brain Podcast is one of the smartest people we've ever met -- bar none. We sat down with him in his Santa Monica studio, which he graciously lent us to use to record our podcast, and we went OFF. Buckle up for a slightly longer, but wildly informative conversation about friendships, loneliness, breaking habits and cultivating your best self. Follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can find Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

While visiting LA, we had a fertility specialist lined up to interview about all things fertility (and in-fertility). That didn't end up happening because she bailed, so this episode brings us together for a candid conversation on fertility and what we wish they knew earlier on.Follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can find Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

We're back with another trio episode where we sit down to discuss what each of us would tell our younger selves. Hindsight is always 20/20 when you've been through heartbreak, friendship changes, job changes and school. Make sure to check out Coco's blog post, 21 Things I Wish I Knew At 21Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This week on the Pod, we have the vivacious Vivian Kaye, founder of Kinky Curly Yaki, a premium textured hair extension company. Vivian's journey to entrepreneurship started as a side hustle and grew into what's now a 7 figure business, all while being a single mom, bootstrapping her way to the top. Vivian shares so much insight with us on what it means to have "the Chadacity", how to get going (*hint* the answer is to just GO) and how she makes the best of tough situations. Make sure to follow Vivian on Instagram, we PROMISE you won't regret it.Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

We've got another episode with the OG trio this week where we talk to you about how the heck to get going on that thing you've maybe been pushing off. We talk about how to get that side hustle off the ground, how to fail faster and some of the things that have helped each of us take the steps needed to get going.Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

We know we're a bit late on this topic, Cowe's, but BUCKLE UP because we get into it on the Derrick Jaxn controversy. If you haven't heard about this, you can watch the video here or read this post to get brought up to speed on what we are talking about. We get real on this episode and spill all the tea on some of the experiences we've had with cheaters and why men like Derrick Jaxn seem to benefit from salacious and toxic behaviour.Here's a link to the Shan Boodram video we mention where she talks about making sure we have "Blank Pages". Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This week we sit down with our fellow Jamaican, Chef Craig Wong, Founder of Patois and Bar Mignonette to talk about how he's kept his businesses afloat through COVID, how becoming a father has made him a more patient and better man, and what inspires him to keep cooking and dreaming big. We also look at the nuance that comes with being of Jamaican-Chinese heritage in the midst of #StopAsianHate and #BlackLivesMatter and how we can all do better spreading love and keeping thevibes positive. Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Cowe's, we're back with our favourite CURL-friend, Vanessa Craft! If you didn't already know, Vanessa was the first Black Editor-in-Chief at Elle Magazine Globally, and is now the Director of Content Partnerships at TikTok -- that's right, TIKTOK. We had Vanessa as our keynote speaker a few years ago at our event, Coco Con (RIP to real life events, but don't worry, we'll be back!) and our girl is spitting FACTS at us this week. Like mic-dropping truths. Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This week we chatted with our favourite mom-duo from Toronto, Cat and Nat! This bestie duo has a whopping 7 kids between the two of them, 2 husbands, a successful podcast called Mom Truths, a clothing brand called TayLivi and so much more. We dig into the realities of COVID, the new book they are writing together and how they keep things positive, even in a sea of uncertainty. Their infectious energy brought some brightness to our week and we hope it does the same for you!Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This week we sit down with the wonderful Kaché Byrd of This Byrd's Nest. She's a mama to SIX beautiful kids and runs a thriving business as an influencer. We chat about what it's been like handling 6 kids, how she finds time for herself and the key to making things work *hint* it requires a lot of planning.Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This week on Conversations With Coco + Friends, we sit down with one of our FAVOURITE writers at Refinery29's Unbothered, Senior Editor Kathleen Newman-Bremang. We cover the gambit this week in our discussion and chat about the trauma of 2020, what she's up to at Refinery29's Unbothered, and how she really feels about the Meghan Markle interview with the legendary Oprah.Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Cowes, this week we sat down and chatted with our FAVOURITE life coach, Coach Carey a 3x Certified Life Coach and motivational speaker and let us tell you, it was hype. We get into the nitty gritty on what a life coach even is and she gives us a ton of her secrets on how to stay motivated, how to use meditation and how she got to where she is today as a life coach -- *hint*, it's an awesome story.Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This week on the pod, we sit down with Karen Cleveland and Michelle Bilodeau, co-authors of "The New Wedding Book", a book that inspires couples to plan their wedding their way. We talk about some of the pressures of traditional weddings, manufactured traditions and investigate how everyone can make their dream wedding a reality without getting too caught up in what they're "supposed to do".Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

This week, we bring it back to our roots again as we discuss dieting during a pandemic. We all know how hard the last year has been for everyone and what kind of toll it's taken on each of us emotionally, mentally and more importantly, physically.Join us as we discuss the new diet that Cleo and Coco tested out during Covid (which you can read all about here on the blog with Cleo's latest post HERE), how Pilar stays motivated with her workouts, and some of our best tips and tricks for giving yourself a little bit of grace during this crazy time (hint: there is NO right way to diet in a pandemic, so be kind to yourself).Make sure to follow us @cocoandcowe and check out our blog www.cocoandcowe.com. You can follow Cleo and Pilar on Instagram too! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.