Podcast appearances and mentions of Brett Davis

Tom Scharpling sits down with Brett Davis to celebrate 25 years of The Best Show. Learn about the moments and people that led Tom to WFMU, and the development of Newbridge and Jon Wurster's incredible array of characters. Delve into the origins of fan favorites such as AP Mike, Pat, Dudio, Vance, and Gary the Squirrel, alongside insights into early contributors, memorable callers, special guests, and the constant evolution that continues to shape The Best Show. SUPPORT THE BEST SHOW ON PATREON! WEEKLY BONUS EPISODES & VIDEO EPISODES! https://www.patreon.com/TheBestShow WATCH THE BEST SHOW LIVE EVERY TUESDAY NIGHT 6PM PT ON TWITCH https://www.twitch.tv/bestshow4life FOLLOW THE BEST SHOW: https://twitter.com/bestshow4life https://instagram.com/bestshow4life https://tiktok.com/@bestshow4life https://www.youtube.com/bestshow4life THE BEST SHOW IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://thebestshow.net https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/the-best-show HEARD IT ON THE BEST SHOW PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2XIpICdeecaBIC2kBLUpKL?si=07ccc339d9d84267 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Washington Senate has passed a 10% cap on annual rent increases under EHB 1217, sending the bill back to the House for approval. Read the full story by Brett Davis at https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/wa-senate-votes-to-set-a-10-limit-on-annual-rent-increases/ on www.ClarkCountyToday.com #localnews #ClarkCountyWa #EHB1217 #RentCap #WashingtonLegislation #TenantRights #RentalHousingPolicy #StatePolitics #WALeg

Chinese car brand GWM just installed a dude named Rob Trubiani as their head of engineering. He's the guy who spent 15 years making Holden's ride and handling so damn excellent. Oh, and he set the lap record for a commercial vehicle at the Nurburgring, in a VF SS-V Redline Commodore Ute. So there's that. His mission is A) fix the ride & handling, and B) fix the intrusive, ineffective ADAS. GWM is on a roll. This cannot possibly end badly.Check out Brett Davis's channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@drivingenthusiastaustraliaSave thousands on any new car (Australia-only): https://autoexpert.com.au/contactGet a great deal on home solar (or add a quality battery to your existing setup): https://autoexpert.com.au/solar

Originally aired on December 9th, 2024.

Enterprise storage has long been dominated by tech giants with expensive, proprietary solutions—but what if there was a different way?  In this episode, recorded at the IT Press Tour in Silicon Valley, I sit down with Brett Davis, Executive Vice President at iXsystems, to explore how TrueNAS is rewriting the storage rulebook with an open-source approach that delivers enterprise-grade performance without the hefty price tag. With competitors like NetApp, Pure Storage, Dell, and HPE, TrueNAS stands apart as the world's largest open-source storage platform, trusted by 60% of Fortune 500 companies and downloaded over 500,000 times annually across 190 countries. Brett shares the company's fascinating origin story, which traces its roots back to Berkeley Unix in the 1960s, and how a commitment to transparency, affordability, and long-term growth has made TrueNAS a serious contender in today's enterprise storage market. We also discuss the major trends shaping IT infrastructure in 2025, from the rising costs of VMware licensing to the debate between on-prem and cloud storage—now growing at the same pace. Brett explains why organizations are increasingly pushing back against vendor lock-in, how open enterprise storage is lowering barriers for businesses of all sizes, and why IT leaders are prioritizing cost savings without sacrificing performance. But where does TrueNAS go from here? Brett gives us a sneak peek into what's next, including an upcoming software release focused on data optimization, deduplication, and high-performance enterprise storage. Is open-source enterprise storage the future? And how can businesses break free from costly, restrictive storage contracts? Join the conversation and let us know what you think.

Nick Devlin is a transformational coach who settled in Ocean Beach after military service. He is a former Army Ranger serving with the 75th Ranger Regiment in Savannah, Georgia.

Get to know Andrew Gomez, The best Candidate for San Diego City College District D

Conversation with "SGT BIG COUNTRY" Brian Conwell and what the heck happened on a particular airline?

In this episode of The Impact Report, Bard MBA in Sustainability candidate Tricia Travis interviews Brett Davis, founding partner of the nonprofit Grounds Crew. They discuss the environmental challenges of New Orleans' Mardi Gras celebration, including the 2.6 million pounds of litter generated annually. Davis explains Grounds Crew's initiatives to make the festivities more sustainable, such as the Sustainable Throw Catalog and recycling programs. The conversation explores the economic and cultural complexities of changing Mardi Gras traditions, community engagement strategies, and signs of progress like one parade krewe banning plastic beads for 2025. Travis, who recently joined Grounds Crew, shares her perspective on the organization's educational outreach and the positive response from youth. Host Renay Loper joins for a follow-up discussion, delving deeper into the cultural significance of Mardi Gras and the hopeful signs for a more sustainable future in New Orleans.

The masculine soul craves the wisdom and joyful rest of the sage's presence. The post 167: The Age of the Sage, with Brett Davis appeared first on Become Good Soil.

The only tragedy greater than the deep fatherlessness our soul experiences is that we have come to accept that sense of fatherlessness as normal. Friends, It's been written that “when there are no kings, young warriors become brutal, magicians behave as charlatans, and lovers are soon addicts.” But what happens when there are no sages?  It's a question entangled in pain yet brimming with possibility.  In our fast-paced, ever-changing, hyper-individualistic landscape, we find endless content: many experts, loads of pep-talkers, and infinite curricula to re-engineer the smallness. Yet the masculine soul remains starving for connection…connection to men who have gone before us, connection to men who have confronted suffering, life, death, and loss and have come out the other side with hearts alive and living generously for love.  The masculine soul craves the wisdom and joyful rest of the sage's presence. Rest and wisdom are critical for the young man to become who he is meant to be.  Brett Davis has become a sage. In my life and the lives of countless others, he is bringing a sage's presence to the next generation.  Having founded Christian Surfers International over forty years ago and led it since, Brett has received his next promotion. Entrusting leadership to the next generation, he has stepped forward into a new season of offering loving engagement to those God brings him as a wise man of peace. He's a risk-taker, father, surfer, husband, friend, and leader. He's become a Sage.  And he's inviting us to come along.  Join me in the lineup, trusting we need only ride the wave given to us to live more freely and lightly through the winsome care of the men ahead. For the Kingdom, Morgan P.S. If you want to explore more on the Age of the Sage, prayerfully engage this PDF compiled by Brett Davis: The Age of the Sage.

Brett Davis from The Center Square Washington discusses the Washington Association of School Administrators' call for increased state spending on K-12 education, despite significant funding increases following the McCleary decision. Learn more about the financial challenges faced by school districts and the debate over adequate funding by visiting https://tinyurl.com/4dj3h2v7 on www.ClarkCountyToday.com. #Vancouver #SchoolFunding #McClearyDecision #StateSpending #K12Education #ClarkCounty #WashingtonState

Welcome back to another exciting episode of The Board Drill Podcast! In this episode, hosts Kyle Bradburn and Matt Dixon are joined by the head football coach of Tonopah Valley, Brett Davis. Coach Davis dives deep into the intricacies of the Four Strong concept, sharing his extensive knowledge and experience in running and shoot-based offenses. Episode Highlights: Introduction of Coach Brett Davis and his journey at Tonopah Valley The fundamentals and advantages of the Four Strong concept How the Four Strong concept can exploit defensive coverages Practical tips and insights for implementing Four Strong in your team Interactive breakdown of key plays and strategies Don't miss this in-depth discussion filled with valuable insights for coaches at all levels. Whether you're looking to refine your offensive strategies or gain a better understanding of advanced football concepts, this episode is packed with actionable advice. Show Notes: 00:00 - Introduction 01:17 - Technology and Football: Do you have the new college football game? 02:42 - Understanding the Four Strong Concept 20:00 - Real-world applications and examples 40:52 - Analyzing key plays with Coach Brett Davis Be sure to like, subscribe, and hit the notification bell so you never miss an episode! Also, visit theboarddrill.com for in-depth articles, film breakdowns, and more. Connect with us: Website: theboarddrill.com Twitter: @BoardDrillPod Instagram: @BoardDrillPod

On June 29th, the nonprofit TRUENESS PROJECT will be hosting the largest gathering of people dressed as butterflies in history to promote world peace.  It is her philosophy that TRUTH is the Path to Peace.  Meaning that when each of us as individuals live in our own authentic truth, we inevitably discover inner peace.  The more of us that do that, the more peace and love will spread throughout our world.  The June 29th event  is a worldwide event with the epicenter in Jackson, Wyoming.  A representative from the Record Books will be in Jackson to confirm their results and theirm lead sponsor the LA Tribune will be there providing the Red Carpet Experience to all participants.  The event will be livestreamed everywhere.While all participants are encouraged to make and dress in their homemade butterfly outfits, (See guidelines on our website) the TRUENESS PROJECT will be distributing outfits at Davey Jackson field 115 N Jean St, Jackson, Wyoming from 9:30 to 10:45. We will have 500 butterfly outfits ready to distribute and will have outfits for children and babies.Tables will be available for participants to make butterfly themed art and a DJ will be playing fun music for all to enjoy.  We encourage individuals to bring a blanket to sit on and some water for personal comfort.

BLU Lapis Southern California Leaders Award Summit Winner for the "Storytelling Brilliance Award

Dr. Kevin Cameron possesses a Doctoral degree in Clinical Psychology and a Master's degree in Counseling Psychology, he is a licensed psychotherapist and a highly decorated combat Veteran and holds an Honorary Doctoral Degree and Honorary Professorship from LADC.Dr Cameron served nearly 14 years in the military, distinguishing himself in the US Army through numerous combat deployments and international operations, including Kosovo, Bosnia, the Balkans, Germany, Iraq, and Afghanistan. Kevin Cameron is also certified through the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists (CAMFT) as a Continuing Education Provider (CEPA) for mental health professionals. He is Board Certified with the International Board of Coaches and Practitioners (IBCP). He has multiple patients and published research articles.

As a highly sought-after clinician and coach, Cheri Sotelo has worked with high-profile celebrities, athletes, influencers, and corporations, offering her expertise and guidance. She has been featured on renowned podcasts, news media stations, and international stages, sharing her insights and knowledge on mental health, well-being, productivity, and profitability. Her comprehensive approach and global reach integrate various aspects of life to help individuals reach their highest potential and lead fulfilling lives.

Sarah Andrew, Chela Alvarez and Brett Davis talk shop about Indian Motorcycle of San Diego

Guest: Brian Erickson is running for San Diego Superior Court Judge Seat 41. He has had the privilege of serving the people of the state of California as a deputy district attorney and deputy city attorney for over 29 years. He currently prosecutes cold homicide cases utilizing DNA and genetic genealogy techniques. He has tried 110 jury trials involving complex murder, rape, domestic violence, child abuse and gang issues. As a prosecutor, he has devoted his career to protecting victims and safeguarding our community. As a judge, he will ensure public safety by being firm but fair and seeking just consequences for those who break the law.Guest: Valerie Summers is running for Superior Court Judge Seat 43. Valarie has a proven record of fair and equal administration of justice. As a Deputy District Attorney of over thirty-five years and she has a long history of keeping San Diego safe with a proven track record of commitment to our community and dedication to the administration of justice. She has prosecuted thousands of criminal cases including murder, child abuse, domestic violence, elder abuse, rape and human trafficking. She has successfully prosecuted some of San Diego's worst criminals including the cop-killer who gunned down San Diego Police Officer Jonathan De Guzman and child rapist-killer Scott Erskine who sexually assaulted and killed Charlie Keever and Jonathan Sellers. District Attorney Summer Stephens endorses both candidates

Cameron Celeste talks about why we need to gather signatures for the Anti-Prop 47

Operations Director Sarah Andrew talks with Brett Davis about this weekend's Big Sale Event. She also talks about how she can help you fix your credit to purchase a bike.

Tim Broadhead, CEO and President of Indian Motorcycle of San Diego talks with Brett Davis about their Big Tent Sale this weekend starting Friday, Feb 9th till Sunday, Feb 11th.

Everything you need to know about what happened in Olympia this week, including possible property tax increases. Guests: Kent Mayor Dana Ralph and insight from Brett Davis of The Center Square.

Not all king cakes are created equal, and if you live in Louisiana, you probably have your own favorites. Maybe even a ranking of different bakeries. Aubri Juhasz introduces us to one New Orleans resident who has taken her king cake enthusiasm to a whole new level.  Mardi Gras season is in full swing, and many New Orleans krewes are gearing up for this weekend's parades and balls. WYES-TV executive producer and host Peggy Scott Laborde has covered the Krewe of Rex and the meeting of the courts of Rex and Comus for several years. She joins us for a sneak peek at upcoming festivities. In 2022, over 1,000 tons of Mardi Gras waste went into landfills in less than two weeks. And that was just in New Orleans. Beads, cups and other toxic throws not only contribute to flooding by clogging storm drains, but also pollute Louisiana's lakes, rivers and bayous. Thankfully, there are groups dedicated to a more sustainable Mardi Gras.  Brett Davis, founder of Grounds Krewe, joins us for more on his work to reduce waste during Carnival season. Today's episode of Louisiana Considered was hosted by Diane Mack. Our managing producer is Alana Schreiber and our assistant producer is Aubry Procell. Our engineer is Garrett Pittman. You can listen to Louisiana Considered Monday through Friday at 12 and 7 p.m. It's available on Spotify, Google Play and wherever you get your podcasts.  Louisiana Considered wants to hear from you! Please fill out our pitch line to let us know what kinds of story ideas you have for our show. And while you're at it, fill out our listener survey! We want to keep bringing you the kinds of conversations you'd like to listen to. Louisiana Considered is made possible with support from our listeners. Thank you!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Interview with Tony Renteria, Founder and CEO of LUCA, running for Mayor in Lubbock, Texas, and Melinda Ann, President of LUCA "Latinos United for Conservative Action.

Interview with Dan Rice-Vazquez, Candidate for Chula Vista City Council District-3

Cynthia Kaui serves as the President of San Diego Young Republicans and as the Press Secretary for the California Young Republicans Federation. Cole Marting is a board member of the San Diego Young Republicans and the author of the Amazon #1 New Release, 'California's Toughest Challenges and the Common Sense Conservative Ways to Solve Them.'

Here is everything you need to know about what happened this week in Olympia. Hear both sides of the rent control debate, impassioned efforts to protect children, and insight from Brett Davis of The Center Square on a natural gas ban. 

Jeffrey Reiman first started training people in the late 1990's. In 2023 he decided to go on his own and start an online business. His goal is to help people of all ages.

Here is everything you need to know about what happened this week in Olympia. Guest: State Rep. Greg Cheney (R-Battle Ground) and insight from Brett Davis of The Center Square.

The RV Industry is forever changed with the unveiling of the Freightliner Chassis now offered on the Entegra, Cornerstone. The secret is out and there is more innovation coming.Embark on a journey through the heart of the RV industry with us, Patti and Dan, as we broadcast from the picturesque Camp Margaritaville. Prepare to be schooled on the vital role of the Freightliner chassis on your motorhome, thanks to pearls of wisdom from industry giants:  Jeff Sather, President of Freightliner Custom Chassis,  Ken Walters, President of Entegra,  Brett Davis, President & CEO NIRVC,  Pat Carroll, Director of Product Development, Entegra, and Angie Morell, Director of Sales, NIRVC. Together, we unwrap the hidden gems of the RV world, from the structural integrity of your coach's foundation to the house that has all the design features you have been asking for.  For Dan and I the best part of RV LIFE is the camaraderie of our fellow RVers. It has been an amazing weekend here at the AIM (All Inclusive Motorhome Club) Rally and National Indoor RV Centers, where we've been treated not just as customers but as part of an extended family. Finally, our episode wouldn't be complete without highlighting the innovations propelling the RV industry forward and the safety features all RV should have, such as   Rettroband's revolutionary safety in the face of tire blowouts, more info at https://www.rettroband.com/, Proteng Fire Suppression System, https://proteng.com/  automatically suppresses a fire should one start.  We also stressed the significance of a trustworthy dealership partnership in your RV journey.  So, sit back, relax, and let us lead you through the ins and outs of an RV lifestyle rich in history, learning, and a promise of tomorrow's possibilities.Special Discounts Codes for January 2024: • RV Trip Wizard Code: RVLIFEPodcast for 25% off •Open Roads Innovative Tolling Solutions The toll pass that not only covers all 48 states but also give you a dedicated customer service rep to handle any issues you may have. • Harvest Hosts Code: HUNT20 for 20% off • Boondockers Welcome Code: HUNT20 for 20% off • Open Road Resorts 4 amazing campground in MT, ID, TXMention RV LIFE Podcast to receive 10% off any new reservation Click on the link to book your site. • AirSkirts Receive $100 off any kit purchase. Use Discount Code: RVPOD• Open Road Fuel Card We save money on Diesel Fuel with every fill up. It's free to sign up and start saving. Sponsors• National Indoor RV Centers Follow, Leave Comments, or Message Us On Social Media: ...

In this special Year In Review edition of RV U, Angie sits down with Brett Davis, NIRVC's Founder and CEO. Brett and Angie discuss milestones in 2023 and the RV Revolution. Tune in to hear what Brett has to say about the RV Revolution and outlines amazing new resources that are in the works for 2024. You are the reason we are here! If you believe in the RV Revolution, help us out: give us a good rating, write a review, share it with your friends, and make sure to subscribe, so you don't miss a single episode.If you missed a previous edition of RVU now you can get all caught up!Looking to upgrade your motorhome? Click here.  Special thanks to our sponsors!National Indoor RV CentersNIRVC has a wide selection of Class A, B and C RVs. Experience the NIRVC difference today at NIRVC.com All Inclusive Motorhome (AIM) ClubGet connected with fellow RV enthusiasts from all across the country and enjoy exclusive benefits, discounts and access to amazing events! Join the AIM Club today! 

Indian Motorcycle of San Diego CEO Tim Broadhead, Brett Davis and Chele talk about the Pet Adoption Event on Sat, Dec 16th, from 10-2 pm.

Wow, can you believe it's been an entire year since we started the RV Life Podcast? We're thrilled to celebrate our first anniversary in this episode, reflecting on the journey that has brought us here. It's been a year full of ups and downs, from personal challenges like the loss of a loved one to the sheer joy of meeting fascinating guests from all walks of life. We're taking a moment to acknowledge our accomplishments, and we're inviting you, our dear listeners, to join us in our celebration.One of the highlights of the past year is our live recordings at various events such as the Albuquerque Balloon Fiesta,  Hershey RV Show and Tampa RV Show. Remember the fun, chaos, and unexpected interruptions? We're revisiting those memorable moments in this episode. We're also looking back at the enriching conversations we've had with industry leaders like Andy Rabinowitz, owner of RV LIFE Bonus Episode 1/18/23, Brett Davis, owner of NIRVC Episode 13, Jeff Sather President of Freightliner Bonus 1/25/23. These chats have taught us the importance of authenticity and shared values, lessons we carry with us as we navigate our RV Life. Episodes we mentioned: # 7 First Aid Kit    #29 RVing on a Budget    #24 Unique Locations #51 Creating Your Bucket List      #17 Cook Over a Campfire      #39Embracing RV LIFE      #3 Girl Camper Magazine   #46 Home Schooling #48 Ins and Outs of Winter RV Living       #6 What is a Health Coach  #49 Why the RV Chassis is so Important And we are looking forward to meeting you our listeners at the Tampa RV Show January 17-21st! We invite you to visit us and possibly be featured on the show or win some pretty cool gifts. It's a chance for us to meet you, our listeners, face-to-face, and answer your RVing questions. Here's to another year of RV Life Podcast!Episodes Discounts Codes: • RV Trip Wizard Code: RVLIFEPodcast for 25% off • Kracken Adventure Bikes Code: Hunt for $400 off • Harvest Hosts Code: HUNT20 for 20% off • Open Road Resorts Mention RV LIFE Podcast for a discount • Boondockers Welcome Code: HUNT20 for 20% off • AirSkits Use Discount Code: RVPOD • Liquid Rubber Code: RVLIFEPOD for 15% off • Open Roads RV Fuel Discount Program We save money on diesel with every fill up. It's free, just sign up and start saving. • Clear2OCleaner, safer, better tasting water.• LITO Above link gives you a great discount.Luxury In The Outdoors Elevate your camping experience with high quality outdoor products. Sponsors• Wholesale Warranties• National I...

Enjoy this free episode of our Patreon exclusive podcast Make Mike Marvel! In this episode, Brett Davis and AP Mike begin their journey through the MCU by discussing the first MCU film, Iron Man. SUPPORT THE BEST SHOW ON PATREON! WEEKLY BONUS EPISODES & VIDEO EPISODES! https://www.patreon.com/TheBestShow WATCH THE BEST SHOW LIVE EVERY TUESDAY NIGHT 6PM PT ON TWITCH https://www.twitch.tv/bestshow4life FOLLOW THE BEST SHOW: https://twitter.com/bestshow4life https://instagram.com/bestshow4life https://tiktok.com/@bestshow4life https://www.youtube.com/bestshow4life THE BEST SHOW IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://thebestshow.net https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/the-best-show SUPPORT THE BEST SHOW ON PATREON! WEEKLY BONUS EPISODES & VIDEO EPISODES! https://www.patreon.com/TheBestShow WATCH THE BEST SHOW LIVE EVERY TUESDAY NIGHT 6PM PT ON TWITCH https://www.twitch.tv/bestshow4life FOLLOW THE BEST SHOW: https://twitter.com/bestshow4life https://instagram.com/bestshow4life https://tiktok.com/@bestshow4life https://www.youtube.com/bestshow4life THE BEST SHOW IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST https://thebestshow.net https://foreverdogpodcasts.com/podcasts/the-best-show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello NIRVC family and friends! In this special Thanksgiving episode, Angie sits down with Brett Davis, NIRVC's Founder and CEO with a heartfelt message for our customers, employees, and partners. You are the reason we are here! Thank you for coming on this journey with us.If you missed a previous episode of RV U, now is your chance to get caught up!Looking to upgrade your motorhome? Visit NIRVC.com  Special thanks to our sponsors!National Indoor RV CentersIf you're an RVer looking to maintain, repair or enhance your motorhome, visit National Indoor RV Centers. With 6 locations nationwide and some open 7 days a week, you'll always get superior quality, convenience and customer service. NIRVC's everything under one roof approach helps simplify RV ownership. Experience the NIRVC difference today at NIRVC.com RettroBand® Wheel EnhancementGone are the days of worrying about a blown tire putting you and your RV at risk. Protect your coach from tire blowouts by installing RettroBand® Wheel Enhancement. Learn more.All Inclusive Motorhome ClubGet connected with RV enthusiasts from all across the country and enjoy exclusive benefits, discounts and access to amazing events! Join AIM Club today! 

SGT BIGCOUNTRY, Brian Conwell talks about Life and how he has overcome so much adversity.

On this week-in-review, Crystal is joined by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and Founder and Editor of The Needling, Lex Vaughn! They discuss how the Seattle Police Officers Guild (SPOG) Vice President who mocked Jaahnavi Kandula's death is now on red light camera duty, how a KING 5 story effectively victim blamed Kandula for what she was wearing, and how Seattle will pay nearly $2M after a man died of heart attack after incorrectly being on a 911 blacklist. Crystal and Lex then talk about Senator Nguyen's bill to detect gas price gouging, the Week Without Driving, Burien making their camping ban worse, how Bruce Harrell's dual responder program fails to civilianize crisis response, and a new GOP candidate in the 3rd Congressional District race. As always, a full text transcript of the show is available below and at officialhacksandwonks.com. Find the host, Crystal Fincher, on Twitter at @finchfrii and find today's co-host, Lex Vaughn at @AlexaVaughn.   Resources “Maritza Rivera, Candidate for Seattle City Council District 4” from Hacks & Wonks   “Ron Davis, Candidate for Seattle City Council District 4” from Hacks & Wonks   “Seattle police officer heard joking after woman's death has been taken off the streets” by Mike Carter from The Seattle Times   “New video shows moments before woman is hit by Seattle police vehicle” from KING 5   “Seattle to pay nearly $2M after man dies of heart attack at address wrongly on 911 blacklist” by The Associated Press and KIRO 7 News Staff from KIRO 7   “Sen. Nguyen moving forward on bill to detect price gouging at the gas pump” by Brett Davis from The Center Square   “Could You Go a Week Without Driving?” by Tanisha Sepúlveda from PubliCola   “Burien Makes "Camping" Ban Worse, Auderer Now on Red-Light Camera Duty, Harrell Order Subtly Improves New Drug Law” from PubliCola   “Harrell's Dual-Responder Proposal Would Fail to Civilianize Crisis Response” by Amy Sundberg from The Urbanist   “Lewallen emerges as GOP alternative to Kent in rematch with Gluesenkamp Perez” by Jim Brunner from The Seattle Times   Find stories that Crystal is reading here   Listen on your favorite podcast app to all our episodes here   Transcript [00:00:00] Crystal Fincher: Welcome to Hacks & Wonks. I'm Crystal Fincher, and I'm a political consultant and your host. On this show, we talk with policy wonks and political hacks to gather insight into local politics and policy in Washington state through the lens of those doing the work with behind-the-scenes perspectives on what's happening, why it's happening, and what you can do about it. Be sure to subscribe to the podcast to get the full versions of our Tuesday topical show and our Friday week-in-review delivered to your podcast feed. If you like us, the most helpful thing you can do is leave a review wherever you listen to Hacks & Wonks. Full transcripts and resources referenced in the show are always available at officialhacksandwonks.com and in our episode notes. If you missed this week's topical shows, we continued our series of Seattle City Council candidate interviews. All 14 candidates for 7 positions were invited and we had in-depth conversations with many of them. This week, we presented District 4 candidates, Maritza Rivera and Ron Davis. Have a listen to those and stay tuned over the coming weeks. We hope these interviews will help voters better understand who these candidates are and inform their choices for the November 7th general election. Today, we're continuing our Friday week-in-review shows where we review the news of the week with a co-host. Welcome back to the program, friend of the show and today's co-host: Pulitzer prize-winning journalist and Founder and Editor of The Needling, Lex Vaughn. Hey! [00:01:36] Lex Vaughn: Hey, nice to be back. [00:01:38] Crystal Fincher: Great to have you back. And I just have to say before we get into it - The Needling is so good. You do such great work there. And like the last two weeks are as good as it has ever been. There's no one in the country doing it better than The Needling right now. It's just absolutely great. If you guys are not tuned into The Needling - website, Patreon, social media - please get into it. [00:02:03] Lex Vaughn: Thank you so much, Crystal. [00:02:05] Crystal Fincher: Absolutely. Well, we have a number of things to talk about this week. Wanna start off talking about an update to the story of pedestrian Jaahnavi Kandula, who was killed by an officer who ran over her while going over 70 miles per hour in response to a call - although he did not have his siren going at the time - and a story that came out in KING 5 also related to that. But just starting - update to that story is the SPOG Vice President, Daniel Auderer, who was caught on tape mocking Jaahnavi's death is now on red light camera duty - has been taken off the street. It is not uncommon for officers to be reassigned to administrative positions while investigations are ongoing - that's the case here. What do you think about where we stand here in terms of accountability? [00:03:00] Lex Vaughn: I think no one should feel like anything real has happened as far as accountability or punishment goes - he's been reassigned, but he could be, as soon as we take our eye off this, he could be put back in the same position he was before. Auderer is still a major part of the guild leadership, so it's like - this isn't just any cop. This is guild leadership that forms a lot of the culture of the entire department, so it's upsetting to not see - once again, how - it's just upsetting to see how hard it is to even get real punishment happening for some of these people after what they do. They should be fired. And I think the next thing I'm focused on is just what's gonna happen in this next police guild contract - it's up this year and it's in negotiations right now. I just, I hope it's slightly better than the contract before - and it would just be nice if it was easier to hold police like this accountable. [00:03:59] Crystal Fincher: I'm right there with you. And I hope it's significantly better than it is right now. And there's a model in place for it - the City of Seattle passed an ordinance in 2017 that included many accountability procedures that the SPOG contract that's currently in place, that was signed in 2018, supersedes. It has written in there that it supersedes City law - so if there's a conflict, the SPOG contract is what wins, basically, over what the City says. And as we've seen, there've been several examples of things that regular people look at and say - This is not okay, this is not what we want - where we see officers commenting across the country saying - This is inappropriate, incorrect. Yet it seems like not much can be done, and the most that's done is they're suspended without pay then reinstated, or assigned to desk duty, various administrative tasks. It's a challenge. [00:04:55] Lex Vaughn: And I'm so tired of the shrug that happens - Well, I don't know, police contract. What are you gonna do? Well, now we're in negotiations. You are actively in a position to do something about it long-term. I don't want any shrugging right now about this 'cause we are actually in a zone where we can change the contract, or change how the City interacts with that union as a whole. I'm just learning myself about what options there are in increasing accountability. Is there a way to decertify this union completely if - I mean, I think a lot of what they support and don't fight against in their own ranks is kind of criminal itself. You're enabling people to kill innocent people - for me, to me, that's criminal. And it's like, I wish that was kind of acknowledged more often - where's the line here where some of what they're doing is criminal. [00:05:49] Crystal Fincher: Yeah, and you know, the other thing I look at here is this is a threat to public safety in Seattle, particularly for people who say and believe that - Hey, we need more officers on the streets now, we need to hire more officers, there is a shortage. One, if there's a shortage, why are they responding to overdose calls, crisis calls in the first place and redeploying it? [00:06:11] Lex Vaughn: You know, as outlets like DivestSPD have reported in detail, it's - this call, where this young woman was killed by a cop going three times the speed limit in a high pedestrian area at night without a siren - he was rushing to a reported overdose call where health personnel, paramedics were already headed there. And apparently there were like six police units headed there as well? This is just inefficient, like at a minimum, at a minimum - incredibly inefficient and dangerous. And it really kind of underlines - how could you think we need more cops when in a situation like this, they're over-responding and actually a danger to the community. The entire way this operation is working is faulty and not increasing public safety. [00:07:07] Crystal Fincher: Absolutely not increasing public safety. And hurting the effort that they've invested a lot of money into to recruit additional officers. Since they offered retention bonuses, you know, there was a lot of talk over the past couple of years that - Oh, they need more money, they need an incentive to stay. Well, the incentive is not money. Many of them are compensated fairly handsomely, but since that was approved and they've been receiving retention bonuses - the attrition has not improved - we're still hurting as badly as we ever have. And it's time - and I appreciate Tammy Morales in a forum last night, as well as others, and there've been several other people who've also talked about this - just plainly stating, Hey, these incidences happening are a problem, are a disincentive for people to apply to be a police officer, to want to be a police officer, particularly in Seattle. And especially when so many cities are talking about having shortages, why would they choose a city that has so many visible problems and problematic officers instead of another one there? So, I mean, this is - the culture is as much of a problem in terms of recruiting as anything else. But also, we do have to stop and say - What are we even doing overall? - to your point. I also want to talk about this KING 5 story that came out recapping it, but got a pretty severe pushback and lots of call-outs - because in that story, they detailed what Jaahnavi was wearing, while it - was it dark colored this or that, you know, potentially talking about a drug test. And as you said - to be clear - she was in a crosswalk. She was doing exactly what she was supposed to be doing. The person doing what they weren't supposed to be doing was a person responding to a call that was questionable that they should be going to anyway. [00:08:55] Lex Vaughn: I cannot stand anyone acting like - Oh, she just didn't look both ways. This was a high pedestrian area - at night, no sirens. How many of us would expect, as soon as we're entering a crosswalk, for a cop, a giant car to barrel at us at over the speed limit of what's, on our freeways? Okay - that's fast. She didn't, she barely comprehended what was going to happen to her before it happened to her. [00:09:26] Crystal Fincher: Absolutely, and when you look at there, it's not - one, it's a crosswalk, and drivers should be aware of crosswalks and crossings marked or unmarked. This is a marked crosswalk - there's a crosswalk sign, there's barriers in the road - this is not an area - Oh, who would know that there would be a pedestrian there? Like, if there was a place for a pedestrian to be, it is there. And to essentially victim blame in that way and not talk about the responsibility of the person in the vehicle that has the power to instantaneously obliterate someone - what their culpability and responsibility was there - is just really disgusting. [00:10:04] Lex Vaughn: Yeah, I have to say, I'm really disappointed in KING 5 for that report, 'cause I mean, in Seattle, I think we tend to think of KOMO as the station that would run something like that, not KING 5. And it's hard to understand what the motivation of that report was. I mean, I guess they were maybe giddy that they had new video that hadn't been seen before, and I don't know, maybe there was only so much they had to say about it - she's wearing black clothes - but it just came off as very victim-blamey. You know, this is not a report that you wanna turn into a pedestrian safety cautionary tale - where that's not really the moral of the story here - 'cause I think any of us, most people, that would have happened to them, no matter what they were wearing, I doubt that cop would have all of a sudden had time to brake if she was wearing yellow. He was going way too fast. [00:10:57] Crystal Fincher: Absolutely. Absolutely going too fast to respond in any kind of way at that speed, to be able to take any kind of evasive action - and we see that in how the accident played out. I think this is reflective of the super car-centric culture and how problematic that is - instead of realizing that everyone has a right to use the roads and therefore everyone, whether you're walking, biking, riding. But the responsibility that people have in understanding that - yes, if you have the potential to do greater harm, then you must take greater responsibility. The consequence for a pedestrian walking out into the street to a car is negligible - there's going to be no damage there, right? Like, you know, looking at the worst-case scenario is entirely different than someone losing their life. And so I suspect in this situation - a problem that we've seen in lots of news media in that they saw the video, they looked at the police report and what the information that the police gave out, which unfortunately too often only focuses on, especially when situations when police are involved, only focuses on the pedestrian that is involved or the non-police entity that's involved. Just really striking, we - was the officer driving - were they tested for drugs or alcohol? Were they, I mean, you know, a sign of impairment there, so how in the world it makes sense? [00:12:22] Lex Vaughn: They were not. She was, he wasn't - despite the fact that this guy who ran her over, apparently had had his driving license suspended in Arizona the year before he came here and got hired with a bonus. So, you know, if you think these bonuses are getting us anyone quality, all you have to do is look at this case - not the case - we're not getting anyone special here. [00:12:48] Crystal Fincher: Well, you know, I don't know who it's bringing, but there absolutely needs to be a different strategy implemented here. And everyone needs to do better in reporting, and considering how they talk about this, and what our stance as a community is about this. I also wanna talk about another story this week that didn't seem to percolate, but that was surprising to me. And it was news that Seattle had to pay nearly $2 million to the family of a man after he died of a heart attack after getting delayed response because his address was wrongly on a 911 blacklist. One - okay, there's a 911 blacklist - there's news. [00:13:29] Lex Vaughn: Yeah, I did not even know that. Oh, God. [00:13:32] Crystal Fincher: Yeah, so the situation is this person had a heart attack, fell out - had lived in the unit for a year. The people who lived in it before him wound up on a list - and responders and police say they keep a list of people who have been hostile to or problematic with police, which, you know, I don't know what hard and fast rules about that, how subjective that is, but you can see how that could come to be. But they wound up on this list because of a prior tenant - that wasn't told to them on the call, there was no indication, you had - no one has any idea - [00:14:06] Lex Vaughn: I had no idea that was a thing. [00:14:09] Crystal Fincher: - that - yeah, that the list exists or that they may or may not be on it. So this guy's lived here for a year. It's not even like he just moved in there. [00:14:16] Lex Vaughn: And I'm like - oh my God. So it's like based on address, not even like phone numbers? 'Cause like I would imagine almost everyone has like a cell phone now. Like almost no one has a landline. [00:14:27] Crystal Fincher: Some people have a landline. [00:14:28] Lex Vaughn: I mean, okay. [00:14:29] Crystal Fincher: Some people don't have cell phones. [00:14:30] Lex Vaughn: It's like a small fraction of people. [00:14:32] Crystal Fincher: Most people do, some people don't - but either way - so they call and they're like - Okay, help is on the way. But the help is - they see there's a flag, so they have to wait for basically police to co-respond with them, which delays the call. You know, another 911 call comes in after a paramedic is apparently on the scene, but not going in because they're waiting for police. And they're saying help is on the way, but no indication that there's a delay. The man passes away because of - looking at the settlement, feeling like had he received more timely medical care, he certainly would have had a better opportunity to survive. But that this was the reason why he died - and that this list exists, that finding out through this, that evidently the list was neglected - they don't take people off the list or hadn't before this - was very problematic. In response to this, they're now saying they'll age people off of the list after 365 days. But you can imagine- [00:15:28] Lex Vaughn: Why did it have to take this to do that obvious a thing? [00:15:31] Crystal Fincher: Why did it have to take this? And how does no one engage with the fact that, especially with half of Seattle residents renting, right? [00:15:39] Lex Vaughn: Yeah, I'm a renter. And I read this and I was like - Okay. I mean, I've lived in this place that I'm in for three years, so well - I mean, I don't know. It's like, I want to check - I don't know who lived here before. [00:15:53] Crystal Fincher: Yeah, how do you get on? Is there an appeals process to come off? The lack of transparency surrounding this seems like it could create another situation like this in the future. So this was a story reported by KIRO 7 - would be interested to find out exactly what criteria are to get on the list. Are people ever removed from the list now other than aging off? And even with things aging off over a year, people move all the time - renters move all the time - this is absolutely disproportionately impacting people who rent. And a year is a long time to wait for something to edge off. If you have an emergency and you haven't lived in your place for a year, who knows if when you call 911, there's some reason that you don't know why people aren't responding. So I found that just really interesting. [00:16:43] Lex Vaughn: And just another important part of that report is that apparently a dispatcher was punished and also sued the City because he tried to fix that system. And he was kind of like wrongfully punished on the job for trying to bring up and reform that 911 blacklist. And it just seems like - wow, you know, a person like me - I didn't even know it existed, but I think we all got to take a hard look at that 'cause that's a tragedy that didn't have to happen. [00:17:14] Crystal Fincher: Absolute tragedy. And very interested to learn more about how that list operates and if it is in line with best practices and it just seems- [00:17:24] Lex Vaughn: It seems very outdated. [00:17:26] Crystal Fincher: It really does. Wanna talk about another story that is part of a larger story. And it's Senator Joe Nguyen, our state Senator, is moving forward on a bill to detect price gouging at the gas pump. Gas prices have been in the news a lot lately - they find their way into the news every year for a variety of reasons that - the price of gas is high. It's a cost that a lot of people incur. And as the prices rise, people feel that in their budgets, certainly - don't wanna minimize that at all for people who are on a tight budget. But for people who care about that, I hope they also have urgency in dealing with housing costs, childcare costs, some of the biggest costs that people have. But gas is a factor in there, and so we have a situation where gas prices are volatile - they have been, they always are. In this situation, we have Democrats and Republicans calling for a couple of different solutions. Republicans call for a gas tax holiday, they blame the Climate Commitment Act - which was passed here in this state, which assigns basically a price to carbon - and saying, This is the reason why gas prices are high. Other people have pointed out for quite some time that we still have these oil companies making record profits and that accounts for more of the gas price there. And these increases in price don't seem to correlate with the increase and decreases in cost. And we hear - Oh, you know, refinery's offline for maintenance. Well, that seems to coincide with major holiday weekends and times when they know people will be driving to make the price skyrocket. California passed a bill similar to this, which Joe Nguyen said he looked at and is modeling this off of. And they found that there was some, you know, shady stuff going on. And what this does is basically establish a commission, or a tribunal, or some organization that can review pricing information and kind of proprietary data from these companies - saying that this isn't public data, so it's not like there are gonna be competitive disadvantages for sharing and it's not gonna be given to the public. But this group can review it and say - Okay, is this in line with costs, or are you just raising the price of gas to price gouge consumers - which appears that it's happened before. So this is an interesting bill that Senator Nguyen is moving forward with to detect price gouging. And I'm gonna be really curious to see how this plays out. What do you think? [00:19:47] Lex Vaughn: I mean, I'd be interested to see how they plan on changing that behavior. 'Cause I guess I applaud the effort to detect price gouging and do something about it, but I'm almost in like a state of - I've just accepted oil companies do that all the time. I mean, I think especially in that year after - since the war in Ukraine, it seemed like there was a period where they were artificially jacking up the prices when they didn't really need to - even after President Biden had taken action to reduce that problem, the prices were still high. So I'm just so used to the price gouging that I assume is always happening, I'm like - Oh, okay, you gonna do something about it? Good luck with that. I don't have high hopes, but- [00:20:34] Crystal Fincher: Well, I think there are bigger structural issues involved. I mean, we are trying to phase out fossil fuels in a long-term perspective, and that is going to make the cost of gas increase in the long-term. Now, as with many things - and part of that is the price is inherently volatile, it's gonna become more volatile, especially as - even if we wanted to burn all the oil in the world, there's a limited supply of oil. So this was coming at some time. How do we make this transition in a way that is as fair and equitable as possible? And that's what the proceeds of the Climate Commitment Act are supposed to do - these proceeds that are exceeding expectations from these carbon credits - that's what the push towards more renewable forms of energy, electric cars - but even better, getting the cars off the road and using transit - and making, building our infrastructure and building our communities in a way that make that a viable and attractive option for people. 'Cause right now we still have a long way to go for that. And in this Week Without Driving, many of us are experiencing that firsthand- [00:21:39] Lex Vaughn: How was that? [00:21:39] Crystal Fincher: It's still ongoing. I shared online that I have a trip today to make where it's a two hour one-way trip, even though it's only 17 miles - but it underscores how important it is to improve transit service everywhere - and it benefits everyone. We have to get out, we have to mitigate the impacts of climate change. We have to get on this and accelerate our efforts to meet our 2030 goals - to have a shot at meeting our goals that are further down the line. We have a long way to go, but improving the accessibility and the experience on transit will improve traffic, will improve air quality, will improve finances. It costs a lot less if that's a reasonable option to do. [00:22:24] Lex Vaughn: I'm always shocked when people aren't completely on board with building great public transit as fast as possible everywhere. 'Cause even if you're a driver and you're never taking public transit, how is it not in your interest as well for as many people as possible to be in public transit? You get less traffic. It should be a win-win-win for everybody to get more of these things online. [00:22:49] Crystal Fincher: Yeah, I think there's a lot of misinformation about there. And I think the way that we have allowed communities to build and grow - that we've allowed sprawl and basically enabled- [00:22:59] Lex Vaughn: Yeah, yeah. [00:23:00] Crystal Fincher: -the inaccessibility of transit in communities makes people - the default lifestyle for many people is a car-based lifestyle. And we've allowed transit to atrophy in many places, if it even was readily available in the first place. So people - when people can't see it and can't see it working, they have a hard time conceptualizing it. [00:23:22] Lex Vaughn: Oh yeah. And I mean, whenever you do that Google Maps route - I mean, I do that sometimes where I'm like - Oh, what's the public transit route? If it's very long, I'll opt for using my car for part of that trip somehow. And that usually is the defining thing, right - is just looking up on a Google Map - is this a half hour trip or a two hour trip? [00:23:43] Crystal Fincher: Yeah. [00:23:44] Lex Vaughn: I mean, that's a big difference. [00:23:45] Crystal Fincher: It's a humongous difference. And for several - I fortunately am privileged enough to not have to drive often. But for those I do, that's an absolute consideration. And I would like to take transit. And there are some advantages even on a longer trip - you can do other things, you can multitask, you can just decompress - you don't have to be present and aware, paying attention while you're driving, you don't have the stress of traffic sometimes, which is nice. So I mean, even on a longer trip, there are some advantages to transit, but also it can be less convenient depending on there. And if you have to walk a long way, especially in poor weather, when it's cold. Or if there aren't adequate facilities at a transit stop - I saw someone yesterday comment, Hey man, I looked up something and it was a two and a half hour trip, and my bladder can't securely make that trip and we don't make public restrooms readily available to people. There are a lot of structural barriers in place for people to be able to use transit, and we have to do a better job at removing those barriers if we're gonna make progress. And so the Week Without Driving is really bringing that home to a lot of people in ways that we can talk about, but when you do it and you feel it, it just provides additional insight and urgency into that. I also wanna talk about the City of Burien - yet again - who passed their camping ban and then decided to make their camping ban worse. So what Burien did was now expand the number of hours per day in which being unsheltered will soon be illegal. PubliCola has been doing an excellent job covering what's been happening in the City of Burien - we will link this article and update in our show notes also. But basically the Burien city attorney said that the city decided to make the adjustment after learning that shelters begin making their decisions about who to admit around 4.30 in the afternoon. And by 10, most are closed. And according to him, it would be too late to take people there - that's questionable reasoning. And by starting the ban earlier in the evening, the city thinks that it can plausibly say shelter was available - which is important in order to pass the constitutionality test - and that people refuse to accept it. Those are not hard and fast rules, and especially with some of the new shelter coming online, it is more flexible. The shelters making such decisions and closing early are part of the reason why it's hard for people to do that anyway. A meaningful percentage of people who don't have homes still have jobs. Lots of people who don't have homes or who are housing insecure have jobs. And if their shift goes beyond 7 or 8 or 9 or whatever the closing time is- [00:26:32] Lex Vaughn: Very unreasonable. [00:26:33] Crystal Fincher: -you have to choose between keeping the job that has a shot at either getting you back into housing or keeping you from falling into a further precarious position on the street. It just doesn't make sense. So they expanded the hours that they were doing that. During the meeting - there's a lot of misinformation that comes from the council majority on this council - they were saying that they, Hey, it increases the amount of time that they're able to camp, which is just false. Like it was weird. It only allows camping between 6 a.m. and 7 p.m. - or the ability to be in public while you're unhoused, basically - even though that there aren't good options for where these people to go. And as we've been reminded several times, options are available and on offer to the City of Burien to have people have a place to go - land has been identified for them. And this is a seven-member council, it's a split council - so four members in the majority, three members in the minority. That four-member council majority has not decided to take the county up on the offer of a million dollars to help with long-term placement, hasn't taken - two entities now who have offered Pallet shelters here. It's just really unfortunate. [00:27:49] Lex Vaughn: Has that city been sued yet? Or like - 'cause it does seem illegal. I mean, they're not even, they're rejecting housing for these people and then doing this camping ban at the same time. I would think that's illegal. [00:28:03] Crystal Fincher: Well, that's the question. And it does strike a lot of people as illegal, which is one of the reasons why the King County Executive's Office sent a letter to Burien saying that - Hey, because your police department contracts with the King County Sheriff's for your deputies, we're telling you our deputies cannot participate in these sweeps because it's unconstitutional. [00:28:23] Lex Vaughn: Yeah, that's great. [00:28:24] Crystal Fincher: And they say - Ah no, it's not. They try to do an end around and find a loophole by leasing to a seemingly faux dog park organization that - then they could trespass people off of land. It's just a whole mess. [00:28:40] Lex Vaughn: The extent they're going to boot homeless people out of their city is crazy - without helping them. [00:28:48] Crystal Fincher: Without helping them, yeah. [00:28:49] Lex Vaughn: The option is right there, the money is right there - and they're not using it. I imagine a lot of these things just aren't true that they're saying? But is that true - that thing they said about all these homeless shelters accept people at 4.30 and not afterward? Is that a thing? [00:29:06] Crystal Fincher: And the way he phrased it even is vague in and of itself - they begin making their decisions at 4.30. [00:29:12] Lex Vaughn: Begin making their decisions at-- [00:29:14] Crystal Fincher: Yes. [00:29:14] Lex Vaughn: Yeah, and it's like - yeah, just think about, I mean, the average person is not done with work at 4.30. They're not even home from work at 4.30, if they're not a remote worker. And yeah, and there's a lot of different shifts out there that people might be taking. And it assumes that people who don't have shelter don't have jobs, which is just the worst piece of misinformation. [00:29:38] Crystal Fincher: Or don't have any other interests, or places to go - it's just challenging. And speaking of the King County Sheriff's, this is a big concern - who are they gonna have to actually enforce this? - which is a question that was asked. And Deputy Mayor Kevin Schilling said on the dais that - Hey, the King County Sheriff's Office signed off on the change. However, PubliCola followed up with the King County Sheriff's Office, and a spokesman for King County Executive Dow Constantine told PubliCola that the county has not made a decision about whether and how to enforce the law. So, that is absolutely not true - what Deputy Mayor Kevin Schilling said - that evidently is still under review. And it looks like they were, once again, in a rush and moved hastily without even knowing if this is something that they can enforce. It is just, it's just a challenge. [00:30:31] Lex Vaughn: Come on, Burien - get some new people on that council. [00:30:34] Crystal Fincher: Speaking of challenges that are pretty easy to foresee, or things that don't quite make sense based on what we're being told - is news that, hey, finally, finally, the mayor's office who has had the funding to do this and for some reason hasn't for a long time, announced that they're going to launch a dual responder program. However, this dual responder program would still fail to civilianize the crisis response, which is what the mayor's office had initially said they wanted to - we had a conversation with Deputy Mayor, then-Deputy Mayor Monisha Harrell on this show about that before. But in the way this is going to be - in the way it's proposed, in the way it looks like it's going to happen - a new Community Assisted Response and Engagement Department, or CARE Department, will launch a dual dispatch pilot consisting of teams of two civilians, some of whom are behavioral health providers, who can be dispatched alongside SPD officers. And so this program hired six responders so far, $1.8 million has been proposed from the mayor in the 2024 budget. And in the press conference, which I think you said that you watched, they talked about this being similar to or based on programs that have gotten acclaim in a few other major cities. However, ours is substantively different than theirs - in that, theirs don't rely on co-response - meaning that an armed officer has to go with someone all the time - or they have options out of that, that is not a requirement of the dispatch. And there's good reason for that. One, most of these calls don't apply to that. In Denver's program, they found that they only needed to call for armed police response 2% of the time where their crisis responders were dispatched - especially as you said before, when they're saying they don't have enough cops to do the job that is expected of them, you would think that'd be like - Oh, that's great news. We can deploy our resources in areas where they can be more effective. [00:32:44] Lex Vaughn: That's why it's probably a dual response. They don't want our city to discover that we don't need police at every single one of these calls. And it's unfortunate that the mayor and this police department are more concerned with how can we get this police department more money, more people. It's, I guess, a rough transition here - to say the least - to get this city to wrap its head around the fact that you do not need police at every single one of these 911 calls. And in fact, it's very dangerous for a lot of these cops to show up, especially in cases where someone's having a mental health crisis or something. When I was a reporter at The Seattle Times, I unfortunately reported on cases where someone was having a mental health crisis and they were shot for not immediately obeying orders. That was, you know - I - if you have a loved one that struggles with mental health issues, the police - they're not who you want to call. It's dangerous, 'cause I think a lot of police are - they're just too willing and ready to shoot as soon as they're not listened to. And so I'm very disappointed that this is a dual response thing, when it's so clear we need that CARE team to just respond on their own, with their own expertise, without anyone armed on the scene. [00:34:09] Crystal Fincher: Yeah, and especially in crisis calls, armed responses - an armed presence - is its own escalator. [00:34:17] Lex Vaughn: Yes - yeah, like duh - for anyone. And then imagine you're also in crisis - just not a great mix. [00:34:24] Crystal Fincher: It's challenging. You know, Crosscut previously reported that while only 2.2% of calls for service in Seattle were crisis calls, those calls accounted for 25% of Seattle officers' use of force. And if we recall, Charleena Lyles in 2017 was a perfect example of that, really unfortunate example of that. It's just really challenging. They seem determined to have an officer respond - to your point, it seems like they are afraid of relinquishing anything. But that seems to be happening - if you listen to their logic - at the expense of everyone else's safety and more effective deployment across the city. Then another really meaningful point brought up is just the scale of this pilot - what are we really able to see? [00:35:12] Lex Vaughn: Six people, right? [00:35:12] Crystal Fincher: Six people - yeah, absolutely. And that is completely out of line with the scale of the programs in these other cities. [00:35:21] Lex Vaughn: Yeah, Albuquerque - 70 people. They're really doing it. [00:35:25] Crystal Fincher: Look at how many officers we have. Look at the size of the city. And one thing that's been noticed by lots of people for a long time is that we put out these pilots, we say we need to see results, and we need to get data on them to see if they're gonna continue. And you just throw a couple people out there - and you can't reasonably expect any meaningful intervention from a few people. Now when you do look at that, they do outsize good for what they're there. So it's like, just imagine if we were to appropriately invest and deploy in numbers that could effectively manage this problem citywide. But we continue not to do that, which is frustrating, and watch more of the budget continue to go to police officers, vacant police officer positions - and it's just frustrating. [00:36:16] Lex Vaughn: Yeah, I mean, it's like the police department and the City are trying to make this argument that we don't have enough officers. And it's like - Well, what if we're just not doing this efficiently at all? And it's just unfortunate to see that the priority here seems to be retaining dependence on a police department that is as bloated as possible, and not just creating a more efficient public health and public safety kind of operation system here. Like you said, a lot of these calls - they do not need an armed cop, especially one that might be barreling through a high pedestrian area at 75 miles per hour, coming to the call. And if we're really interested in public safety here, I really think we don't need more cops. We need to use the cops we have more efficiently, with more accountability. And expand this other program, the CARE program, and let them respond independently to a lot of these calls and expand it. And I'm worried that this program is being set up to fail. Some people might say that - Well, this is better than nothing. It's a start. - I guess, but I think it's being set up to fail. This is six people - not that many people - and they're not being allowed to be the first to intervene, which is really where I think the magic of those programs happens. It's like - Wow, the situation did not get escalated. This person got the help they needed without a gun on the scene. [00:37:48] Crystal Fincher: And it feels like someone is coming to help, right? And it really is the difference in - is someone coming to help me, or is someone coming to control me? Is someone coming to make me do something, to stop me? [00:37:59] Lex Vaughn: Yep, that is - that's it - right there, yeah. [00:38:04] Crystal Fincher: And that makes such a big difference when someone is already in a place where they're unstable, where they're worried, concerned, where they're not perceiving things as well as they can be. And then expecting them then to be able to - oftentimes be calmer than the officer that's responding - and just rationally follow everything. You're being called because this person is not behaving rationally, right - so we know that from jump - everything else that stems from that, it's predictable that that's not going to have a great outcome. And again, we have to get to dealing with the root causes of this. There's nothing a police person can do to address a behavioral health crisis. [00:38:47] Lex Vaughn: That's not their expertise at all. [00:38:49] Crystal Fincher: That's not their expertise, it's not their job. It's not their - no training, no resources in order to do that. The people who actually can make those connections - who do understand our complicated and inadequate, but you know, system - and to try and get people in there and to get them some help that they need, so this is not a chronic problem. So this doesn't escalate. It's really important. The last story I want to talk about today is the emergence of a new GOP candidate in Washington's 3rd Congressional District. This district is now notorious for being one of the biggest districts in an upset race in 2022, where Democrat Marie Gluesenkamp Perez beat Joe Kent, a very far right-wing Republican in 2022 - biggest upset race in the country. And so Joe Kent announced that he was running again, he's been running, and he's endorsed by the likes of Trump and you know, a lot of really, really, really far right extremists. And that is what a lot of people blame on his loss that - wow, even that was too much for this pretty solidly Republican district. So it looks like other Republicans in the state - I don't want to call them moderate Republicans, 'cause I don't think that is an accurate descriptor - but ones who realize that Joe Kent- [00:40:11] Lex Vaughn: Maybe just smarter, like more strategic Republicans. [00:40:16] Crystal Fincher: Right - is a tainted brand, right? And are trying to operate more strategically. And so Leslie Lewallen, a city councilmember in Camas in Clark County, has entered the race and drawn early support and endorsements from prominent Republicans like former Attorney General Rob McKenna, former Secretary of State Sam Reed, and Tiffany Smiley. And Tiffany Smiley, who's the challenger to Patty Murray in 2022. And so they are not going the MAGA route, they're trying to go the other route. Although if you look at the issues that she's talking about, this is really, you know, how they're dressing up someone who holds a lot of the same core beliefs when it comes to women's choice, when it comes to these really troubling attacks and book bans that we're seeing in schools, attacks on the trans community and the LGBTQ community - just a lot of worrisome things. This is not, you know, what we had previously described as a moderate Republican. This is still a pretty far right Republican, but it's not Joe Kent. And, you know, Joe Kent is out of touch with reality in a variety of things - it's hard to really explain how wild this guy is without just being like - look at this, I cannot - I had to do this in 2022. Like I can't do justice to what this is with an explanation, just watch him talk. [00:41:42] Lex Vaughn: Yeah, him and Loren Culp were kind of an insane, you know, pair to talk about back then. [00:41:48] Crystal Fincher: They were just not in touch with reality. But, you know, this will be interesting. And we see this effort, with Dave Reichert in the governor's race, to try and dress someone up as a more moderate Republican to kind of assuage some of the fears that people have of someone too extreme. MAGA - the MAGA brand - is not popular throughout the state, that's not a winning brand in the state. And Republicans have been losing ground because of it. But I think, especially when we look at a lot of these races in King County - like I'm thinking of the 8th Congressional District race, the Reagan Dunn race against Kim Schrier - even someone who has, you know, traditionally branded themselves as a moderate, they still hold beliefs that are pretty repugnant to lots of people. Kind of first and foremost, the issue of abortion rights, right - these are pretty fundamental rights. The issue of privacy protections - pretty fundamental rights. Wanting a stronger safety net - pretty fundamental, you know, support by a lot of people in the state. And Republicans seem to disagree with that. [00:42:48] Lex Vaughn: Yeah, or at a minimum, they're just spineless because Reagan Dunn, at certain points, has - if it's advantageous to him, you know, hasn't been as conservative, but just depends on where he's trying to mold himself. [00:43:03] Crystal Fincher: Yeah. [00:43:04] Lex Vaughn: Yeah. [00:43:04] Crystal Fincher: So at this moment, Marie Gluesenkamp Perez has a pretty substantial financial lead. I think I read that she has like a million and a half dollars and Joe Kent has like a shade under $500,000. But I - this will be a district that this cycle, I'm sure, attracts a lot of attention and a lot of outside spending. Definitely on the list for Republicans to pick up. Now, you know, we're sitting here as Republicans just kicked out Speaker McCarthy, which makes Patty Murray now second in line to the presidency since there's no current Speaker of the House. But, you know, Republicans have problems from the very top of the ticket all the way on down, so it'll be interesting just to see how they manage this chaos. [00:43:49] Lex Vaughn: Yeah, well, this whole next year is gonna be an interesting Republican identity journey - I don't know if it's a crisis, they've kind of been in crisis for a little while, but it's - they're gonna have to make some decisions about who they're gonna be in the future. Are they gonna continue the Trump route or are they trying to find this other, I don't know. I guess almost as far right, but just a different tone, different leaders at the helm kind of leading that. I don't know. [00:44:24] Crystal Fincher: Yeah, very - it'll be interesting to see. And, you know, we'll have another shutdown battle coming up in about a month. Who knows if we'll have a speaker by then? Who knows if we'll be in any better position for anything by then? [00:44:39] Lex Vaughn: I just heard yesterday there's a possibility of Trump being a speaker? [00:44:43] Crystal Fincher: Yeah, so- [00:44:45] Lex Vaughn: Oh my God, I didn't know that was a thing. [00:44:47] Crystal Fincher: Fun fact is the Speaker of the House does not have to be a member of the House or Congress. So yeah, they can appoint - they could do that with Trump if they wanted to, I think? [00:44:58] Lex Vaughn: Ahh, this world is insane. [00:45:00] Crystal Fincher: Yeah, it's, you know - it is frustrating - the Republicans are not a party serious about governing right now. And I just wish we would contend with that more directly. Or at least- [00:45:14] Lex Vaughn: And the people who vote for them. Like what are you doing? [00:45:16] Crystal Fincher: Yeah, absolutely. So we'll continue to follow this, but that will certainly - is an interesting new element in that 3rd Congressional District race that will have impacts here locally and nationally. And with that, we thank you for listening to Hacks & Wonks on this Friday, October 6th, 2023. The producer of Hacks & Wonks is Shannon Cheng. Our insightful cohost today is Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and Founder and Editor of The Needling, Lex Vaughn. You can find Lex on Twitter @AlexaVaughn, V-A-U-G-H-N. You can follow Hacks & Wonks on Twitter @HacksWonks. You can find me on Twitter and most other networks @finchfrii, with two I's at the end. You can catch Hacks & Wonks on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever else you get your podcasts - just type "Hacks and Wonks" into the search bar. Be sure to subscribe to the podcast to get the full versions of our Friday week-in-review shows and our Tuesday topical show delivered to your podcast feed. If you like us, leave a review wherever you listen. You can also get a full transcript of this episode and links to the resources referenced in the show at officialhacksandwonks.com and in the podcast episode notes. Thanks for tuning in - talk to you next time. [00:46:41] Lex Vaughn: Bye.

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