Podcast appearances and mentions of Beck Bennett

Marc Maron and Tim Heidecker critique Joe Rogan's podcast and political impact. Howard Stern skips his much-hyped return. Jay Leno fails to pass a California smog law for classic cars. Plus: Cam Patterson may join SNL, Cleese rages at the BBC, Beck Bennett & Kyle Mooney launch a confusing podcast, and Bill Burr picks the Iron Bowl.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/daily-comedy-news-with-johnny-mac--4522158/support.Become a premium subscriber! (no ads). For Apple users, hit the banner on your Apple podcasts app which says UNINTERRUPTED LISTENING and the bonus “DCN8” show.You also get 25+ other series  (it's only $4.99 a month with a free-trial month)Contact John at john@thesharkdeck dot com  Media Thoughts is mcdpod.substack.com dailycomedynews.substack.com DCN on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@dailycomedynews https://linktr.ee/dailycomedynews www.buymeacoffee.com/dailycomedynews  

The Boys welcome BECK BENNETT and KYLE MOONEY into the Headgum family.Get a Hat Pack Hat here!Watch the video of today's episode at Patreon.com/HollywoodHandbook This is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok. Advertise on Hollywood Handbook via Gumball.fm See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week, Scott welcomes back Kyle Mooney and Beck Bennett. The three discuss Kyle's album “The Real Me”, Beck's appearance in “Superman”, and their new podcast, “What's Our Podcast?”. Then, entrepreneurs Austin and Tony return to discuss the rebuilding of their brand. Finally, Brian and Brundan Buggle stop by to chat about the New York City tourism industry. You can check out Kyle and Becks new podcast, "What's Our Podcast" here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whats-our-podcast-with-beck-bennett-and-kyle-mooney/id1834487732 Don't forget to check out the Comedy Bang! Bang! Action Figures at shop.figurecollections.com and go to actionfigureseller.com for international purchases. If you want more great episodes of Comedy Bang! Bang! become a subscriber at comedybangbangworld.com. We have all of the past episodes from the archives, every live show, ad-free new episodes, and original shows like CBB Presents and Scott Hasn't Seen. Find more great Comedy Bang! Bang! merch at https://www.podswag.com/collections/comedy-bang-bang Get access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using this show link: https://siriusxm.com/cbb

Beck Bennett joins the guys for this bro-nus episode. First, they tee up a Pickleball match between brothers in-law. Then, they help a caller named T-Squeeze prepare for a live modeling session.Check out Beck's new podcast What's Our Podcast? and watch Fixed, now streaming on Netflix.See caller images here: http://www.heretohelppod.com/post/episode-201Want to call in? Email your question to helpfulpod@gmail.com.PATREON: https://patreon.com/heretohelppodMERCH: heretohelppod.comINSTAGRAM: @HereToHelpPodIf you're enjoying the show, make sure to rate We're Here to Help 5-Stars on Apple Podcasts.Advertise on We're Here to Help via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Over the course of eight years in the cast of ‘Saturday Night Live,' Beck Bennett performed comedy with more than 150 celebrity hosts. But no one—not even Donald Trump himself—was as difficult to work with as Elon Musk. In the 300th episode of The Last Laugh, Bennett looks back on his SNL audition, discusses what it was like to join the show with one of his oldest friends Kyle Mooney (with whom he just launched his own new podcast), and reveals exactly what made Musk a more “offensive” collaborator than Trump. He explains how he knows Vladimir Putin liked his shirtless impression a lot more than Trump liked Alec Baldwin's portrayal, how he knew it was finally time to leave the show, and how Lorne Michaels nearly talked him into staying. Finally, Bennett talks about the two very different movies he appears in this summer: voicing a cartoon dog in the raunchy Netflix movie ‘Fixed' and joining the DC cinematic universe as The Daily Planet's Steve Lombard in ‘Superman.'Follow Beck Bennett on Instagram @beckbennettFollow Matt Wilstein on Bluesky @mattwilstein Follow The Last Laugh on Instagram @lastlaughpodHighlights from this episode and others at The Daily Beast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dana and David chat with Beck Bennett to unpack Hollywood lore—like early Superman rumors that had David donning the cape, why Beck always looks awful on red carpets, and the hilariously winding tale of how a trip to the Polo Lounge led Beck to Saturday Night Live. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whats-our-podcast-with-beck-bennett-and-kyle-mooney/id1834487732 To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Things got tense with podcasters Kyle Mooney and Beck Bennett, so legendary comedian/director/writer Michael Showalter stepped in to intervene on this very special episode of Office Hours Live. Of course we also spoke to some folks on Zoom including a face-to-face bone pick with Florida man Scott Baio.Support Office Hours, watch another hour of today's episode including more with Michael, our beard of the week and Doug's Puns of Guys game with OFFICE HOURS+. Get a FREE seven-day trial at patreon.com/officehoursliveJoin us for a special 35mm screening of Weird Al's classic 80s movie UHF in Los Angeles on August 27! Get tickets here.Please do not subscribe to Kyle and Beck's new podcast "What's Our Podcast" here. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this special episode we check out Netflix's Original film from 2025, the adult animated romantic comedy film, ‘Fixed' directed by Genndy Tartakovsky starring the voices of Adam Devine, Idris Elba, Kathryn Hahn, Fred Armisen, Beck Bennett and Bobby Moynihan.   Please follow us at Flix Forum on Facebook or @flixforum on Twitter and Instagram and answer our question for the episode, 'Are dogs a man's best friend?'   You can listen to us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Podbean so please subscribe and drop us a review or 5 star rating.    If you're interested in what else we are watching, head on over to our Letterboxd profiles; Jesse    We also have our own Flix Forum Letterboxd page! Links to all our past episodes and episode ratings can be found there by clicking here.    Flix Forum acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Wurundjeri and Bunurong people of the Kulin Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past, present, emerging and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. 

In this Reel Insights episode, Sean Tajipour, the Mayor of Nerdtropolis, chats with Adam Devine, Beck Bennett, and River Gallo to talk all things Fixed, the outrageous new R-rated 2D animated comedy from Sony Pictures Animation and legendary creator Genndy Tartakovsky.The cast shares their most laugh-out-loud moments from recording, the wildest dog behaviors they wish humans could get away with, and what they'd do if they only had 24 hours before “the big snip.” Get ready for a hilarious and no-holds-barred conversation about raunchy animation, canine chaos, and why this isn't your typical animated movie.Visit Nerdtropolis.comFacebookInstagramTwitter

Director Genndy Tartakovsky's longtime passion project, the raunchy R-rated, Sony Pictures Animation comedy "Fixed", is finally here. You can check it out now on Netflix. But first... here's a fun new conversation with three of its voice actors — Adam Devine, Beck Bennett and River Gallo.

Diane and Sean discuss the singing animal extravaganza, Sing. Episode music is, "Set It All Free", written by Dave Bassett, performed by Scarlett Johansson from the OST.-  Our theme song is by Brushy One String-  Artwork by Marlaine LePage-  Why Do We Own This DVD?  Merch available at Teepublic-  Follow the show on social media:-  BlueSky: WhyDoWeOwnThisDVD-  IG: @whydoweownthisdvd- Tumblr: WhyDoWeOwnThisDVD-  Follow Sean's Plants on IG: @lookitmahplants- Watch Sean be bad at video games on TwitchSupport the show

Ryan and Dylan review the debut of James Gunn's DCU, the newest edition of the Metropolis Marvel, Superman!

On this week's episode Will, Ian and LOOK! It's A Bird, It's a Plane, It's NORA! She's back baybay! Chicago, illness, more illness, you can't keep her down! She's back and she watched her very first movie with-SUPERMAN pg-13 129 minutesDirected by: James Gunn. Starring: David Corenswet, Rachel Brosnahan, Nicholas Hoult, Alan Tudyk, Bradley Cooper, Michael Rooker, Angela Sarafyan, Skylar Gisondo, Wendell Pierce, Beck Bennett, Pom Klementieff, Michael Ian Black, John Cena, Neva Howell, Pruitt Taylor Vince, Mikaela Hoover, Frank Grillo, Edi Gethegi, Nathan Fillion, Isabela Merced, Millie Alcock, Sean Gunn and Many Other Talented People!00:00:30- Welcome Back NORA!00:01:30- First Thoughts00:15:00- Whatcha Been Watchin'? (Ian- Superman: The Movie, Murderbot, South Park. Nora- Days of Thunder, Cocktail, The Color of Money, Minority Report, Tropic Thunder, Far and Away, Love Island: USA, The Bear, Blue, Jurrasic World: Camp Crustaceous, Hard Ticket to Hawaii, Hard Eyes, The Rehearsal, Jurrasic World: Rebirth- Will- Man of Steel, Superman Returns.00:28:00- SUPERMAN00:31:30- Tasty Morsels00:36:30- Rating/Review01:04:00- Totals01:04:30- Next Week/Bye!Patreon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/THELastActionCritics⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram: @TheLastActionCriticsemail:   Thelastactioncritics@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Next Week: Fantastic Four: First Steps

In this episode we talk about what is no doubt the most anticipated movie of 2025, James Gunn's “Superman.” Gunn is more known for his quirky movies with unusual characters engaged in constant frenetic action. This time he takes on the most well-known superhero, the first son of Krypton. No small feat. Can he make everyone with their own idea of who they think Superman should be happy? In this latest Superman movie, Superman (David Corenswet) has been protecting Earth for a few years along with working at the Daily Planet with Lois Lane (Rachel Brosnahan.) In the meantime, his arch nemesis Lex Luthor (Nicholas Hoult) is hatching plans with the government to rationalize taking Superman out. Superman just might need all the help he can get and he might get that from the Justice Gang with Green Lantern, Mr. Terrific and Hawk Girl. Also, we can't forget Superman's furry friend, Krypto. Can Superman survive what Lex and the government got coming for him? Is it worth going to the theater to find out? All will be revealed in this episode of Movies Merica. “Superman” also stars Frank Grillo, Alan Tudyk, Maria Gabriela de Faria, Sara Sampaio, Dinesh Thyagarajan, Wendell Pierce, Michael Ian Black, Beck Bennett, Skyler Gisondo and Mikaela Hoover. Support the showFeel free to reach out to me via:@MoviesMerica on Twitter @moviesmerica on InstagramMovies Merica on Facebook

The time is finally here. My most anticipated movie of the year - James Gunn's SUPERMAN - is finally arriving in theaters this weekend. I had the incredible opportunity to see this movie at an early Fan First Screening yesterday, which is how I'm getting this review out about the time it is debuting worldwide, in a select few countries today. This is the official, theatrical launch of James Gunn and Peter Safran's DCU, that I really hope will actually have the chance to thrive. I love DC Comics, and I've loved Superman since I was a small child. I was introduced to the character through the Justice League cartoons and the original 1978 Richard Donner film. I dressed up as Superman and tried to do the curl and all of that. It has been a LONG wait to finally have another Superman movie on the big screen, and - boy, oh boy - has it been a tumultuous one.I was a huge fan of Henry Cavill's Superman and am one of the people who love Man of Steel. Zack Snyder's Justice League is one of my favorite comic book movies of all-time too, but the toxicity around the excitement and hate for this new movie has been rough. It's the 'sports-ation' of movie fandoms that has really frustrated me over the last few years, and it's showcased no more clearly than how people talked about this movie up until release (and probably after release too). That being said, because the character means so much to me and because James Gunn's film really resonate with me on an emotional level, I've always known he was going to deliver a worthy film that starts the Big Blue again. You'd know that about me if you've listened to any of my reviews of James Gunn's films and shows, which are all glowing, and listened to my breakdowns of the trailers. The trailers certified for me that it seemed like Gunn was finally taking the character back to its much needed hopeful and optimistic, yet slightly retro, roots. So, does James Gunn's Superman deliver on its promises; is it the truest version of Superman we've had in a long time? Find out in this SPOILER-FREE review!Superman:Written and Directed by: James GunnSuperman created by: Jerry Siegel & Joe ShusterProduced by: James Gunn, Peter SafranExecutive Producers: Nikolas Korda, Chantel Nong Vo, Lars P. WintherMusic by: David Fleming, John MurphyDirector of Photography: Henry BrahamEdited by: Craig Alpert, William HoyCasting by: John PapsideraProduction Design by: Beth MickleCostume Design by: Judianna MakovskyCast: David Corenswet, Rachel Brosnahan, Nicholas Hoult, Edi Gathegi, Anthony Carrigan, Nathan Fillion, Isabela Merced, María Gabriela de Faría, Sara Sampaio, Skyler Gisondo, Terence Rosemore, Wendell Pierce, Pruitt Taylor-Vince, Neva Howell, Beck Bennett, Mikaela Hoover, Frank GrilloSynopsis: Superman, a journalist in Metropolis, embarks on a journey to reconcile his Kryptonian heritage with his human upbringing as Clark Kent.

Beck Bennett (@beckbennett, Superman) joins the 'boys to discuss their trip to the bayou, viral moments, and filming Superman before reviewing Taco Bell's new Crispy Chicken menu. Plus, another edition of Jingle All The Whey.Watch this episode at youtube.com/doughboysmediaGet ad-free episodes at patreon.com/doughboysGet Doughboys merch at kinshipgoods.com/doughboysAdvertise on Doughboys via Gumball.fmSources for this week's intro:https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/mitla-cafehttps://savingplaces.org/stories/the-mitla-cafehttps://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/19/business/19bell.htmlhttps://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/04/24/taco-bells-innovation-kitchen-the-front-line-in-the-stunt-food-warshttps://www.irvinestandard.com/2019/step-inside-taco-bells-test-kitchen/https://www.tacobell.com/newsroom/crispy-chicken-nuggets-returnhttps://www.tastingtable.com/1889002/taco-bell-crispy-chicken-new-items-review/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

It's time for everyone's favorite show that isn't created in a cult bunker Cinema To The Letter! Our SNL Vehicle season continues with the I for Indie choice Brigsby Bear, featuring Kyle Mooney, Andy Samberg, Beck Bennett, and a plethora of other SNL talents in front of and behind the camera! Together, our duo will answer the crucial questions. How does Brigsby Bear balance its dramedy tightrope far better than most others in the subgenre? Why is the meta-casting for Mark Hamill so genius? Did a smaller-scale indie film make us want a Coke more than product placement in a massive blockbuster? Well, connect your animatronic Brigsby head to Bluetooth and listen in to find out! Thomas' Curated SNL Playlist: https://shorturl.at/ai77U Join our Patreon for $1 for monthly bonus episodes and the chance to vote for new podcasts at patreon.com/cinema2letter! Follow us @cinema2letter on socials! Artwork by Michelle Kyle! Music by Burial Grid! We're a proud member of the TalkFilmSociety podcast network! 

It's time for everyone's favorite show that isn't created in a cult bunker Cinema To The Letter! Our SNL Vehicle season continues with the I for Indie choice Brigsby Bear, featuring Kyle Mooney, Andy Samberg, Beck Bennett and a plethora of other SNL talents in front of and behind the camera! Together, our duo will answer the crucial questions. How does Brigsby Bear balance its dramedy tightrope far better than most others in the subgenre? Why is the meta casting for Mark Hamill so genius? Did a smaller scale indie film make us want a Coke more than product placement in a massive blockbuster? Well, connect your animatronic Brigsby head to bluetooth and listen in to find out! Thomas' Curated SNL Playlist Join our Patreon for $1 for monthly bonus episodes and the chance to vote for new podcasts at patreon.com/cinema2letter! Follow us @cinema2letter on socials! Artwork by Michelle Kyle! Music by Burial Grid! We're a proud member of the TalkFilmSociety podcast network! 

That's right, it's banter time! But first, we should probably address the fact that Sonny and Tom open this episode by bragging about how early in the month they're recording an episode only for it to ultimately be released on the last day of the month. But hey, nobody's perfect. And if it makes you feel any better, this is an excellent episode. Sonny and Tom cover six different topics and honestly there isn't a dry one in the bunch. They came to play when it comes to this banter. So sit back, relax, and ignore the fact that we can't get an episode out before the 25th of any given month.For those of you who want to jump around, the topics discussed in this episode are as follows: Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson being cast in the new Martin Scorsese film (8:41), Al Pacino announcing what happens after we die (14:21), Beck Bennett finally getting work (17:09), the spin-off of a spin-off "George and Mandy's First Marriage" (21:31), Jenna Fischer being in love with John Krasinski (28:15), and an update on the Robert Zemeckis movie "Here" which takes place in one location only (34:03). Not to mention a few more topics on their way for the bonus episode! Don't say we never give you anything.There's also an opening segment, lest we forget. Today the boys imagine Arnold Schwarzenegger in Rami Malek's role in "Bohemian Rhapsody" as the legendary Freddie Mercury. Could Arnold successfully play a skinny gay singer with a beautiful voice? No. No he could not. But we have to talk about it anyway. Enjoy!Hosted by Sonny de Nocker (@swankysonny) and Tom Price (@thomas_price22).Theme by Josh Britt (jbrittmusic.com)Instagram: AnOscarForArnoldTwitter: @AnOscar4ArnoldTikTok: AnOscarForArnoldContact: AnOscarForArnold@gmail.com

Join D'Arcy for our 2nd ever HEAD TO HEAD episode! But how do the famous “je ne sais quoi” gals connect to one of the most beloved rides at Disney? Listen and learn! Wikipedia and its trademarks are used with permission from the Wikimedia Foundation, the nonprofit that supports Wikipedia. The views expressed in WikiHole belong to SmartLess Media and are not endorsed or affiliated with WikipediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week on Saturday Night Jive we're mourning democracy as we watch an episode of Saturday Night Live.  It's Season 45, an era of the show that George doesn't even enjoy and Ben really hates.  RuPaul hosts and Justin Bieber sings.  Don't worry, you'll get to hear George's opinions about Kitty Scott Claus as well as Ben's pleas to hunt down all Trump supporters.  This is not a good episode of SNL.  It's not a terrible episode, it's just kinda boring.  We get some Thirsty Cops, RuPaul reading some books, two random ladies screaming in a restaurant, two other random ladies sitting on a couch talking about shit, a family game of Charades going wrong, Chad gets dolled up like a drag queen, a debate cold open that Ben didn't even watch, and the immortal Beck Bennett ruining his life over a game of Boop-It (which is the only thing we liked in the whole episode).  Enjoy!  This episode was fan requested, if you'd like to request anything hit us up!Full archive of all podcast episodes available at saturdaynightjive.blogspot.comEmail us anything at saturdaynightjivepodcast@gmail.comDownload Here

SNL Hall of Fame Water Cooler Podcast – Alan ZweibelIn this episode, hosts Joe, Shari, and jD take us on a nostalgic journey into Saturday Night Live (SNL) history, focusing on legendary comedy writer Alan Zweibel and his contributions to SNL's early seasons. From the behind-the-scenes dynamics of writers like Zweibel to iconic characters like Gilda Radner's creations, the hosts delve deep into the essential pop culture moments of SNL.Tune in as the hosts share their insights, sprinkle in celebrity encounters in podcasts, and rank some of the most memorable moments in SNL history.[00:00] - Intro to the ShowjD, Joe, and Shari kick things off by introducing the premise of the SNL Hall of Fame podcast. They discuss how their rankings and segments will break down this episode's focus.[02:15] - Alan Zweibel's Career & ContributionsA deep dive into Alan Zweibel's role as one of the original SNL writers. The hosts discuss his relationship with Gilda Radner, his work on classic sketches like the Weekend Update jokes, and his extensive influence on early SNL.[04:38] - Classic SNL Sketches Featuring Alan ZweibeljD highlights how Zweibel worked on some of the classic SNL sketches, including the Samurai and Emily Litella sketches. Shari reflects on Zweibel's ability to collaborate across the writer's room with people like Gilda Radner and Robert Smigel.[07:52] - Ranking SNL Hall of Famers: Beck Bennett vs. Sherry O'TerryThe hosts engage in a lively debate over the rankings of various SNL Hall of Fame contenders, including Beck Bennett, Sherry O'Terry, and Bob Odenkirk. They also discuss the trajectory of SNL cast members and who deserves Hall of Fame status.[15:02] - Celebrity Encounters in PodcastsA fun discussion about podcast co-host Jeremy Dove's story of meeting Pharrell, sparking a conversation about celebrity encounters in podcasts and how they add flavor to episodes.[18:40] - SNL Hall of Shame MomentsThe hosts critique some of the weaker sketches from a recent SNL episode featuring Ariana Grande and Stevie Nicks. They call out the misuse of cameos and how it limits airtime for regular cast members.[23:02] - SNL Cast Dynamics & CameosShari points out the challenges of balancing SNL cast dynamics with the regular appearance of cameos. They discuss how Heidi Gardner and Eggo Nwodim deserve more screen time.[30:48] - Closing Thoughts on the EpisodeThe hosts wrap up by previewing next week's episode, featuring a discussion with Robin Duke about Joe Piscopo and his impact on SNL.Listen and subscribe to the SNL Hall of Fame podcast for weekly discussions on the essential moments and key players in SNL history. Whether you're a die-hard fan or a casual listener, our breakdowns of essential pop culture moments will keep you entertained.Be sure to follow, rate, and review wherever you listen to podcasts!Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/snlhof/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This week Joe, Shari, and jD pore over this week's SNL Hall of Fame episode and proclaim a Hall of Fame and Hall of Shame moment on the week's current episode of SNL. Transcript:Track 4:[0:02] Hi, I'm Thomas Senna, co-host of the SNL Hall of Fame podcast. And I'm Deremy Dove, co-host of the Bigger Than The Game podcast. Deremy and I have joined forces to create a new podcast called Pop Culture 5 to ask the question, what are the five essential things about any given pop culture topic? It could be five essential movies by an actor of our choice. Or five essential songs by a musician of our choice. We're not making a list of our personal favorites, it's the essentials. And we better do a good job of justifying our essentials because one of us will have veto power each episode. And I'm ready to tell Thomas why he's wrong. All right, Dermy. All right. Well, actually, why don't we give everyone an out-of-context peek at what we've been up to? So Pharrell was right next to me, and we looked at each other, and we were kind of like bobbing our heads. He wasn't wearing his hat. Nobody really knew he was kind of wearing. He was kind of incognito. But I had to do a double take. I'm like, that's Pharrell. and then he looked at me you just slipped that in there this big name drop here i was next to my man pharrell like whoa i never heard this everyone so join us to celebrate and discuss the essentials of pop culture listen and subscribe to pop culture 5 wherever you get your podcasts.Track 4:[1:30] Hey, it's time to gather around the water cooler to talk the SNL Hall of Fame.Track 1:[1:40] Hey, it's JD here, and I want to welcome you back to the SNL Hall of Fame water cooler. I am inside the building walking down to the lunchroom right now where we keep the water cooler to meet Shari and Joe. They are there to talk about this week's episode of the SNL Hall of Fame. As well as breaking down the path that this person will have to the Hall of Fame and ranking them as well. And then we will go through the Hall of Fame and Hall of Shame of this week's Saturday Night Live episode. It is the premiere of the 50th season. I am now in the room. I can see Joe and Shari. Shari, how are you doing?Track 2:[2:23] I'm doing excellent. Got my water bottle all filled up from the water cooler and I'm ready to chat.Track 1:[2:29] I am parched. Joe, how about you?Track 3:[2:33] I'm doing good. I am really, really excited about this particular individual that we will be discussing today.Track 1:[2:42] Yeah, it's Bob Odenkirk. Nicole Brady was featured on this episode. She was also in season four with Anna Gassire, nominating Anna Gassire. This time, it's Bob Odenkirk in the writing category. So, Shari, do you want to recap Monday's Hall of Fame episode?Track 2:[3:01] Absolutely. Well, you gave a nice little lead in, J.D. You are the best at that. Getting me prepped. So thank you. Yes, it was Thomas and Nicole. And I had forgotten who she nominated. One of my favorite, Anna Gasteyer. So hopefully Anna gets in, I hope. Yeah. And Nicole did a great job this time, just like she did that time. And Thomas, of course, the consummate conversationalist. They chatted 100 percent. They chatted quite thoroughly about Mr. Odenkirk's career. They started off with some background in the fact that they shot Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul. And I didn't want to either. So sorry. But apparently they were shot in New Mexico. I didn't know that. Beth. And I guess Bob was very close with the improv community and would like just show up at things. I thought that was super cool.Track 1:[3:58] Wow.Track 2:[3:59] Thomas and Nicole both said they had never gotten a chance to catch him, but they did compliment him for having such a great relationship with the New Mexican community. So I thought that was pretty cool. And then they broke it down from the beginning to the end. Of course, they started with Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad and How We Know Bob Odenkirk Now. And then they went back in the backward time machine to when he was a young 25-year-old, just starting out. And his time at SNL, of course, they talked quite in detail about his baby, as Thomas called it, the Matt Foley, the motivational speaker. They really did a nice breakdown of that. And several other sketches, some Tom Hanks sketches that he did that I wasn't aware of. And the fact that he worked on Superfans I knew, but I didn't know about Hans and Franz. So it was quite an enlightening discussion. Very detailed and very well researched on both Thomas and Nicole's part.Track 1:[5:02] Well, that's what we expect from those people at this point. And they always deliver. So it's really great. Great. Joe, what do you feel was the thrust of the argument that Nicole made in terms of nominating and advocating for Bob Odenkirk?Track 3:[5:22] What I pulled away from that episode, she didn't really say it specifically, but I just kind of connected the dots.Track 3:[5:31] Something I noticed was he's really, Bob Odenkirk is really good at bringing out a performer's voice.Track 3:[5:41] Now, there's one sketch in particular I'm sure we'll get to that really enhances a certain performer's talent. Talent but uh another one that i learned from from the episode was uh how much he helped dana cardi uh especially with grumpy old man hans and friends now with grumpy old man now if you listen to his podcast or watch the stand-up you see that he kind of riffs and what i've noticed is he finds an attitude puts a voice to it and then riffs jokes and what i imagine what bob odeker helped do was help mold it into a solid cohesive personality so i imagine he dana had most of grumpy old man there and i imagine orton kirk uh pitching some more jokes and give it maybe you know a theme for you know the week or you know for that current um editorial what have you right you know same for Hans and Franz kind of bringing out a performer's voice and you know finding out what's funny about them you know it's this not that oh and then the McLaughlin group that's another one where it seems like it's something Dana Carvey um you know probably came up with the idea well it with but uh.Track 3:[7:07] But like I mentioned in the episode, you got Michael Conan, who are like Harvard grads, who are really good at being with political stuff. And then Odenkirk, who I don't think he went to an Ivy League school.Track 1:[7:24] He did not, no.Track 3:[7:26] Still finding that voice, like what makes McLaughlin Group funny and contributing to that as he does.Track 1:[7:34] Yeah yeah you you put it well both of you i i i think odin kirk is certainly a deserving, member of the hall of fame if you thought if you look at saturday night live this is uh he's there for the second golden age.Track 2:[7:52] And you.Track 1:[7:54] Know that's not an accident i don't think.Track 2:[7:56] What do you think sorry oh absolutely not and you know they just did episode 13 of everything you need to know about saturday night live on yes the saturday night network which i feel like we sometimes are commercial for but you know the best is the best and they're awesome and they're awesome and that is the season where mr odin kirk showed up that's right and boy what a start of a season that was Because we were talking about it before we started recording. What an amazing season that was. And the writing, writing, writing. It's all about that writing. The cast was great. Don't get me wrong. But writing, writing, writing. Smigel, Odenkirk, O'Brien. I mean, that's like a murderer's role of writing talent. Just incredible.Track 3:[8:47] And then reacting to TV and movies. I just want to pass through Carcinio that is yes and then enhancing a performer's talent so you got Dana Carvey who does a great art or, great carson almost said the other guy and then uh but mentioning but you know making fun of the carson arsenio conflict at the time so good for you youngsters uh johnny carson has been was at the time this uh he was the host for the tonight show for decades and then he finally had competition in the 90s and then the sketch was the parody of that um you know and it's an excellent perfect.Track 3:[9:34] Note for note parody of what was going on yes but and then and then uh the last thing i want to get because again i just love bob hollycock so i'm sorry if i'm you know uh but then i was just going to go to the bears and uh he this was because uh this came out of the like all of the chicago sports teams or chicago's love for sports teams in the 90s you know it was like the bulls the bears like they were all dominating and uh the bears uh is like i i still know people like this with the you know that love dicka they have the bears you know shirts they watch you know every sunday and then the thing that i want to point out is in the sketch uh it the bears show or whatever is on uh wbbms and which is a cbs affiliate but that's the affiliate that shows the bears football so like that's how accurate the sketch is that the bears show would be on the same network as the bears football oh i love that like and that's a little attention for detail that comes out of um odenkirk because both me and him are from the chicago suburbs he's from um.Track 3:[10:57] Oh it's neighbor neighbor i used to hang out in naperville and uh you know i'm shout out to burbank but like i used to hang out in naperville and um so like yeah like i could it's almost like he's in it like a college senior that is like i got you kid like i know what you're talking about out and i'll put it on tv you know so he spoke my language uh shall we you can talk now sorry no.Track 2:[11:30] Joe that's awesome and i'm not very far from chicago it's funny i'm four hours from chicago and i'm four hours from toronto so i've like i'm right.Track 3:[11:39] There you go where.Track 2:[11:40] You used to be joe and where jayden currently is.Track 1:[11:43] So what you're saying is if we ever uh if we ever do a meet and great. We'll have to do it in Michigan.Track 2:[11:50] Yeah. I'm already planning a trip to Toronto, J.D.Track 1:[11:54] It's in the old noggin.Track 2:[11:57] But anyway, I was taking some notes because I know J.D. Always asks us about who the candidate or the nominee of the week compares to as far as people who are already in the hall. And this week usually I'm a little stumped. But this week it was easy.Track 3:[12:19] Absolutely.Track 2:[12:21] Because there's two in there, and they both have similar trajectories to Bob. I'd say he's closest to Conan. Because does anybody think of Conan's work on SNL when they think of Conan first thing?Track 1:[12:35] No, not really.Track 2:[12:36] They think of late night.Track 1:[12:38] I often wonder about the Conan getting in. I often wonder, you know, what were the circumstances about that?Track 2:[12:45] I wonder as well. I'm surprised that he got in as quickly as he did. I mean, three ballots is fairly quick.Track 1:[12:52] Yeah.Track 2:[12:53] Considering it took Molly and Maya five ballots.Track 1:[12:57] And Frank and the Davis as well. Five ballots.Track 2:[13:00] Five ballots. Yep. But I see Odenkirk in a similar vein to Conan because everybody knows him because of what he's doing now. And he's so huge now. So I think that's going to possibly.Track 1:[13:15] Hinder him?Track 2:[13:16] Slip him in in a couple. Oh, get him in. Okay. Yeah. I think it's going to get him in possibly in less ballots than Conan because people are obsessed with everybody calls Saul. and Breaking Bad, at least here. I don't know about where you're at, Jamie. Oh, for sure. I've never watched either. They're not my bag, but I've heard they're terrific. And, like, I'm a librarian, and, like, the librarians are obsessed with that. Like, they love Breaking Bad. They love Better Close Home. They're always picking on me because I haven't seen either. Same with Schitt's Creek, J.D., which I know is a Canadian product. I'm always hearing about that one, too. But it's like, everyone's like, why don't you watch it? Why don't you watch it? And I just, I don't have an interest, but I think that's going to put him in, again, it's that recency bias. He's in everybody's brain, just like Conan. You can't get away from Conan. He's everywhere.Track 1:[14:09] He is ubiquitous. Yeah, absolutely. That's a great comp. That's a great comp. And it took him three ballots to get in, like you said. So, you know, anything more than that for Odenkirk would, you'd have to say would be a bit of a disappointment. Yeah.Track 3:[14:26] Yeah.Track 2:[14:26] Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think he's, and I think his sketches, he's got more sketches that were reoccurring and like super fans was huge.Track 1:[14:35] Yeah.Track 2:[14:36] Hans and Franz. He had a hand in later on, but he still had a hand in grumpy old man was very, very popular. And of course we got to talk about.Track 3:[14:45] Here we go.Track 2:[14:47] Van down by the river. I mean, come on, come on. And that's his baby. He created that at second city. So I think that gives him, I think he's going to get in and possibly even on a first ballot, maybe second.Track 1:[15:02] Wow.Track 2:[15:03] We'll see.Track 1:[15:04] Shari going out on a limb.Track 2:[15:06] That's a hot take there. That's a hot take.Track 1:[15:11] Well, where do you guys, where do you guys rank them at this point? This will be interesting this week. I think whether or not anybody has shifted from last week. So we are looking at Beck Bennett versus Shari Ohtari. sorry sherry o terry.Track 3:[15:27] Jesus jay versus.Track 1:[15:28] Garrett moore versus adam driver versus you two versus charles barkley versus bob odenkirk where do they stack up this week gang joe.Track 3:[15:40] Okay so these discussions i've been thinking about them during the week and you know my rankings have been and changing um so uh i'll go from bottom to top okay uh there's seven people number seven you two they're a great band but i don't think they contributed a lot to sarian antlion's legacy so i mean they're great when they're on but you know sure charles barkley uh he's great but snl isn't his forte okay so uh so he's better than you two um above him is adam driver he's on his way to being like a tom hanks but he's not there yet so above him is sherry o'terry who's great but like shari my midwest accent uh pointed out she just came and went she came dominated and left and then didn't do anything since.Track 3:[16:40] Beck Bennett is above that. It's above her. He's a great universal performer. Above him is Bob Odenkirk because how much he contributed to other performers. So it's almost like he was there after he left. Like his legacy was there with Motivational Speaker and The Bears. And those characters were still there. Yeah, and then Bob Harcourt was like two shows later. He had the Ben Stiller show and then Mr. Show, and they were still doing Da Bears. And then above him is Garrett Morris, and that's because he's an original cast member, and it's the least he could get as being in the SNL Hall of Fame. If you listen to that episode, you'll see how he was shortchanged, and based on his talent, And the least that he deserves is being in the ethanol hall of fame. So that's my top seven.Track 1:[17:40] How are you, Shari?Track 2:[17:41] Okay. So I take a different angle from Joe. I leave my personal box and I go to the box of the voters. How are they going to vote? I get into their brains a little bit. And I think I'm going to start at the bottom too. And Joe and I line up there. You too. it's that curse of the musical act that we talk about all the time yeah i don't even think they're gonna if they crack 10 are able to stay till next season i'll be surprised charles barkley is going to be just above them and i think he'll make get onto the next ballot but not by much garrett i agree with joe he deserves to be in the hall of fame but memories are short and i just don't think I think people remember him. I do, but I don't know how many. And I know you two do, but I don't know how many others. Same with Sherry O'Terry.Track 1:[18:35] The casual voters.Track 2:[18:37] Yeah, casual voters. Same with Sherry O'Terry. I think she's just going to be right with Garrett because, again, she came and went, and I don't know how many remember her. I think Adam is going to be right here at number three. He's very recent. He's on fire. He does not seem to be leaving the zeitgeist. He's always got something going on and he may show up this season. Who knows? Now, here's where I shook things up a little bit. This episode shook me up a little bit. I banked back down to number two. I think he's going to be just under Bob because Bob did some major sketches and he's huge right now. Whereas Beck's, what is Beck doing? I'm not exactly sure. Taking a little breather maybe and that's fine.Track 1:[19:31] He just signed for a new TV show. Him and Kyle and someone else. Oh, A.D. Bryant. There's three of them joining a TV show that's going into its second season, and I forget the name of the TV show. If you are listening and you remember, send us an email, SNLHOFWC at gmail.com. We would love to hear from you.Track 2:[19:56] Yeah, let us know the name of that show, because I want to try and track it down if it's on any of my streaming services.Track 1:[20:02] Yeah.Track 2:[20:02] But, yeah, I'm giving Bob the top slot here because he's got those great sketches. I mean, come on. Wasn't Matt Foley the number one in the countdown? Again, the Saturday Night Network did a countdown of the characters. I feel like Matt Foley was right there. Or maybe it was catchphrases. Or maybe both. Because Van Down by the River was very high up. and he's that sketch is always in the mix it's really it's you can't talk about snl without talking about that sketch and that's from the mind of bob odenkirk.Track 1:[20:39] Okay we are going to move to a new segment now that we are in the thick of snl season 50 uh there are new episodes to discuss and the angle that we're going to take in the discussion of episodes is we are going to keep Keep it Hall of Fame focused. And we are going to take a look each week. We're going to get one hit from Joe and one hit from Shari on what they think their Hall of Fame moment was for the episode and their Hall of Shame moment for the episode. Will these moments that they identify as Hall of Fame moments, will they come back in the arguments to nominate these people in the future? We'll have to wait and see. Joe. Joe. We'll start with you. Do you want to start Hall of Shame or Hall of Fame, buddy?Track 3:[21:29] I'll start Hall of Fame.Track 1:[21:31] All right.Track 3:[21:31] Because I think it's on everyone's minds, especially if they watched it recently, is the cold open. And I think everyone was looking for Saturday Night Live's reaction to what was going on in the summer. And it scratched that itch perfectly. It addressed Kamala. It addressed Trump. they addressed the cats and dogs the assassination attempts um and then they had cameos it just hit every you know uh note i don't know what phrase yeah i started the phrase i didn't know how to end it but yeah the cold open it just uh it just you know got everyone it's the only thing got everyone caught up like this is yeah we and they addressed everything from the summer uh and then And, you know, you got all the pitch perfect, you know, impressions. You know, you got Maya Rudolph.Track 3:[22:26] And then also I want to mention I was so happy to see Jim Gaffigan for two reasons. One, he was perfect. And two, like he's someone that I should have put on my list that I wanted him to host. Because it's like he's been in the zeitgeist forever. He was in the Jerry Seinfeld Pop Tarts movie. He did Pale Force with Conan. in i recommend you look it up on youtube and he's just been and he's a great comedian that's been around forever and then to see him when he came out i was like happy to see him and i'm like oh yeah we gotta he's good at the impression he's great at that too and then you know and all that stuff um so yeah it was just you know one after another so uh shari oh.Track 2:[23:11] My hall of fame moment There were so many tonight. Oh, my God. So I know that the Lonely Island is already in. But freaking Andy Samberg. I'm sorry. I never swear. Andy Samberg. I did not love him when he was on the show. I did not love him. I did not appreciate him.Track 1:[23:33] Wow.Track 2:[23:34] And now that I listen to the Lonely Island podcast with Seth Meyers and I've watched Brooklyn Nine-Nine. Do you get that? JD, are you able to watch? Have you watched Brooklyn Nine-Nine at all?Track 1:[23:45] Absolutely.Track 2:[23:46] Didn't watch it till just recently. Loved it. And now here he is, not once, but twice. He is the man. He's so funny. Okay. I'm a Jewish girl. So I really appreciated his Hanukkah joke about the White House, getting the White House ready for Christmas. I still, I mean, it's so good to see Andy. I'm just happy he showed up. I don't think it's the last we're going to see of him. He was hilarious as Doug M. Off. I know he'll be back. He and Maya have amazing chemistry. This is a Hall of Famer. I think he should be in there by himself. As well as with the Lonely Island. Because he's, I didn't appreciate him. And now I'm like, homie is so funny. And I never thought of him as an impressionist. And he often says he's not. But he nails Dog Am. I just nailed it. So, so good. So he would be my Hall of Fame.Track 1:[24:52] That's something we need to consider, because if you look, we did that honor for John Mulaney. You know, he struck out as a host, but we have him on the ballot now as a writer. And, you know, Sandberg is in with the Lonely Island as writers. Yeah. They took to the third ballot to get in, which is mind-numbing for me. Absolutely mind-blowing. They should have been first ballot. They changed the show, for heaven's sake. But to have Andy go in on his own, you know, that's, that's fascinating. I like that. And, uh, you know, so stay tuned for the draft folks. Um, we'll be, we'll be doing the season seven draft in January and, uh, maybe you'll hear from Mr. Sandberg again. All right. I hate to do this, but let's go to the hall of shame. We'll stick with Shari. Shari, was there anything in this episode that you would, um, look at with your nose pinch?Track 2:[25:51] They either hit. with the weirdness or they miss with the weirdness and uh that housewives of was it yeah yeah i was expecting more here everybody tries so hard but nobody can save it it's sort of a sinking ship and they're throwing everything at the wall and nothing is sticking um it was a a bit of a disappointment but this was i don't want to spoil for anybody who hasn't seen the episode yet but this was a stellar stellar stellar evening so you know you're not going to hit with every set so that was a little bit of a mess for me.Track 1:[26:36] All right we're going to move to joe now uh and his hall of shame pick.Track 3:[26:42] So it's the same. It's Housewives. Again, I don't want to. Well, for one, let's just point out it's a 10 to 1. And what that means is it's the last sketch of the night. It's probably going to be the shortest. But what why it's a miss for me is the Jean Smart that I know from, I think, Frasier and whatnot. She's very good at being like condescending. And so when I saw the graphic for Real Housewives, I was like, oh, OK, perfect. This is a great premise for her to be condescending. And then instead, without spoiling it, it was about something else. So it was like, she's right there. You can use her as a condescending housewife. But the sketch wasn't about that. It was about something else. And I was like, oh, but they did use her condescending, um, talent in another sketch, uh, without spoiling it. So, uh, you know, so, but that's why it was a miss. It was like, you had, you know, the talent right there, but you use, you had, you had the premise be about something else.Track 1:[27:51] So very interesting. I think that's a nice point because they, when you saw the title card and you saw the, you know, you got a sense of the premise and then you saw the lady sitting around the table, it was an impeccable, you know, it was, it was the best of the best of, of the female cohort. Right. Pretty much. Right. You're expecting a big thing. And then, you know, again, if you haven't watched the episode yet, don't listen. Um, that that's probably the best bet. Uh, but, um, uh, it was, you know, it was more about Dismukes and this physical comedy. And, um, and it, the physical comedy just didn't hit. It just didn't hit the way I thought it might because Andrew Dismukes is so talented.Track 2:[28:43] So good.Track 1:[28:45] Okay. So that gives us our, our hall of fame and hall of shame picks for this week. We'll do that again next week. When we talk about Bill Kenney nominating Danny DeVito, uh, Danny DeVito in the host category has hosted four times, I believe once with his wife, Rhea Perlman. Um, Bill Kenney, of course has been all over this show since season one. Uh, he's been part of the round tables. He's been part of nominated discussions and we expect nothing but, uh, awesomeness from, from our friend Bill.Track 2:[29:20] I'm a giant Danny DeVito fan. Like, I obsess over Taxi, and he is so great in Taxi. And he's so great in everything. And he's got this, this is another show. We were talking about shows that Shari doesn't seem to get a hold of. Everybody loves this Sunny Philadelphia.Track 1:[29:39] It's always sunny in Philadelphia, yeah.Track 2:[29:41] Thank you.Track 1:[29:41] It's been on 20 years, and I haven't seen an episode.Track 2:[29:44] Oh, that makes me feel better, J.D.Track 1:[29:46] Yeah.Track 2:[29:47] Because I just, I tried. It's just not for me.Track 1:[29:50] Okay.Track 2:[29:50] Again i do love danny he's just so so funny yeah so this is this is gonna be a fun episode because and he was enormous in the 80s oh huge like a big actor in the 80s yeah um throw mama from the train ruthless people so movies outside of his tv work uh yeah he was all over the 80s.Track 3:[30:11] He is a a multi-generational talent where Taxi, movies, he was like, he was associated with Taxi, Twins, Matilda, Sunny in Philadelphia. So, trust me, whoever you are out there, Danny DeVito is associated with something that you like and we'll talk about his connections with Saturday Night Live and such.Track 1:[30:42] Absolutely. And we're going to do that next week right here on the SNL Hall of Fame Water Cooler. On behalf of Joe and Shari, I want to wish you well and bid you adieu. We will see you next week. Until then, stay thirsty.Track 4:[31:02] Thanks for listening to the SNL Hall of Fame Water Cooler. 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This week on the SNL Hall of Fame podcast we're joined by Mike Murray from the SNN to discuss the career and Hall of Fame candidacy of 4-time host Sir Charles Barkley. Transcript:Track 2:[0:40] Thank you so much, Doug DeNance. It is a thrill to be back here at the SNL Hall of Fame on the SNL Hall of Fame podcast. My name is JD and it is a absolute wreck outside. Let me fold up this umbrella. My feet are dirty. Follow my lead. I'm going to wipe them. You know what I'm saying? Let's go inside. But before we do, the SNL Hall of Fame podcast is a weekly affair where each Each episode, we take a deep dive into the career of a former cast member, host, musical guest, or writer, and add them to the ballot for your consideration. Once the nominees have been announced, we turn to you, the listener, to vote for the most deserving and help determine who will be enshrined for perpetuity in the hall. And that's how we play the game. It's just that simple. We have a Barnburner of a show this week, Thomas is going to be joined by stat guru from the SNN, Mike Murray, to discuss the career of four-time host Charles Barkley. This should be a good one, folks. But before we get into that conversation, why don't we visit our friend Matt Ardill in his trivia corner?Track 4:[2:02] Ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, I give you the Trivia Meister, Matt Ardell. Matt, how are you doing? I'm good, thanks, JD. And yourself? You know what? Any day that I get to sit here and listen to you tell me some of my favorite actor, actresses, or pop culture figures' height, then I am in a good place. Hey, it's the facts that everybody wants to know. That's right.Track 4:[2:27] Well, I've got a very tall tale for you today. Um charles sparkly uh six six uh february 20th 1963 is his birth date um he was born in leeds alabama and nicknamed sir charles the bread truck and round mound off of rebound uh he is was the first african-american born in a segregated hospital in his all-white town and one of the the first group of black kids to attend his elementary school um in high school he actually didn't make the varsity basketball team at first yeah out of here no yeah it's true he was named uh as a reserve um but he grew from five foot ten to six foot four over the summer And then he was put in a starting position the next year And he averaged 19 points and 17 rebounds per game in high school.Track 4:[3:33] He then went on to play for the Auburn Tigers in college, where he would become known for his talent of blocking shots and then dunking, often getting possession of the ball and running the full length of the court to dunk instead of pass.Track 4:[3:50] Drafted to the NBA during his final year of college, he dropped out of school to join the 76ers and was best friends with Michael Jordan. They were born three days apart with and he is also friends with Magic Johnson, who, when Magic had to retire due to his HIV diagnosis, Charles changed his number from his college number of 34 to Johnson's 32 to pay tribute to him during his last year in the NBA. He is actually the shortest player in nba history to lead the league rebounding from 86 to 87 as well as being a basketball player and tnt sports commentator he is an actor with 30 film credits produced three and was one of the writers for inside the nba he has been on shows including including the Goldberg, Modern Family, and The Simpsons, and even the Clerks TV show appearing in an animated form as himself.Track 4:[4:56] Huh. Very cool. You know, I never watched the Clerks cartoon. It's very Clerks-y. Yeah, yes. It's definitely got that Kevin Smith vibe. Well, this is very Barkley of you. So, nicely done. let's go downstairs with thomas and mike murray as they discuss more about our nominee this week charles barkley, All right.Track 3:[5:52] Matt and JD, thank you so much and welcome to another discussion about a great nominee here at the SNL Hall of Fame. A fun one, an interesting one, I would say an unorthodox nominee for the SNL Hall of Fame. Of course, we were talking about the one and only Sir Charles, Charles Barkley, today for the host category. And with me, a repeat guest, I had to bring him back, Mike Murray from the Saturday Night Network, a stats guru for Saturday Night Live. Not just a stats guru, like, I don't wanna pigeonhole Mike as just a stats guy, Because, Mike, your knowledge of SNL goes beyond stats. I think you need to get more credit. You have insights that a lot of people don't have. So it's not just in the lab and the numbers, that's a lot of it. But you have genuine, awesome knowledge and insights about the show. So I'm so happy to have you back here on the SNL Hall of Fame. Thanks, Thomas. I mean, great intro right there. What do I say?Track 3:[6:54] I'm happy to be on this show with you. I think you're one of the best SNL podcast hosts out there. So for me to be with you talking shop about basketball about snl what could be better than this so thanks for having me back yeah absolutely i hope brad and gary from the not ready for prime primetime podcast heard you just say that so we need to cut them down the pegs no they're great too my first appearance on snl hall of fame was with uh brad yeah they're no they're they're fun guys i actually got to meet them uh in person this past weekend in philadelphia oh so yeah so But I appreciate that, man. It's so good to have you back. Before we get started, we like to do the plugs up top. Why don't you tell people what you're up to this season on the Saturday Night Network? Well, big one coming up, Season 5-0. So, late September, we're going to have a new season of the show. So, that means the SNN, the Saturday Night Network, will be back in full force. So, we do three shows a week. We do a hot take show at 1 a.m. Following the broadcast. We do a Monday roundtable, and on Wednesday nights, that's my show. It's the stat show. It's called By the Numbers.Track 3:[8:06] And if you've ever been interested in the analytics side of SNL, which is a hard pitch at times, but people gravitate towards it, and it was just something that I started doing, just kind of making my own sports world about my favorite show, because my number one love in life is sports and I'm always on the reference sites and like to do comparisons and I figured why not do that for the institution that is SNL so I started doing appearances and then I started doing screen time I made an algorithm to get an output number for each person who appears on the show called the power ranking and so we covered those three numbers every week on the show and And just kind of get into like a sports radio talk show about SNL every week. So following a new episode every Wednesday, 8 p.m. Eastern, you can hear that show on the SNN. That's awesome. And the thing with analytics on your show is it leads to discussions. So it leads to insights about that week's episode or the season as a whole. So you get really just neat discussions like sports radio and I'm the same way like I always watched SNL like it was sports I'm really into like the stats part of it I was perusing like.Track 3:[9:30] Pro football reference basketball reference and baseball reference just today for one reason or another so i'm always on those sites yeah that's a normal day for me as well yeah absolutely i subscribe monthly to basketball reference so i don't get the ads so i do the football yeah.Track 3:[9:45] That's awesome so those are great sites i've been working on a uh entire history of nfl game log yeah last year i have excel spreadsheets that people would just that would blow their mind about how much of a sports nerd that i am so so we're on the we're on the same wavelength mike yeah that's why we get along so well and for sure i'm glad you mentioned that because i do even as a kid thought snl was like a sport because it's live so you know i've said before that yeah it is cool to know how much screen time like chewbacca got and star wars but like it's edited like this is live things are being cut at dress things are being cut for time live during the the show so if you don't make it on that night like that's a zero but like if you you know what if all three of your showcases make it like wouldn't you want to look back i mean this is the snl hall of fame and say those are your hall of fame episodes just like games or seasons yeah precisely and we didn't do this on purpose by the way but this is the most seamless uh.Track 3:[10:46] Segue i think that i've had in a long time uh comparing snl to sports because today's nominee charles barkley of course uh former nba player uh current well i guess that's maybe a little up in the air but he was on inside the nba for uh 24 years um but i guess now that's that's we'll see what happens heading into next season um but charles barkley known as one of the great characters in nba history even while he was still playing he was known as kind of an off the wall character um he's pretty Pretty short for his position.Track 3:[11:21] They called him the round mound of rebound. Played an aggressive style, outspoken guy.Track 3:[11:27] So people knew all about Charles Barkley. So I'm wondering, Mike, when did you take notice of Charles Barkley? And what's your basketball fandom like? Well, for me, I'm a big basketball fan, huge Celtics fan. So just got banner 18. So I have to shout that out. I think this team is going to be good for a while. But I am a Boston sports fan. so I know that things come and thank you very much and I know that these things come and they don't always work out. I have had a lot of heartbreak and a lot of triumph so very happy with the team right now but as far as Mr. Chuck there, I would say late 96 Space Jam, that was when I knew those players on the team I had all the Space Jam figurines as a kid including Charles Barkley. And so I was a little young to watch him play for the Sixers, but knew who he was. And then...Track 3:[12:27] Seeing his like post post playing career persona i wanted to start this episode with you right now by saying like is charles brockley like the funniest athlete because i was thinking about this right right before the show so i'll give you a minute to think about it but a lot of athletes have a lot of charisma like they're big they're they're like larger than life people and they have a lot of bravado and so like they have funny personalities or they say things post game that are quotable but i think charles barkley is like naturally a funny dude yeah he is do you have any nominees who would who would be at his level or or funnier than him i think ricky henderson is is one was one of the funnier athletes maybe a little before some of our listeners times but But Ricky played from like 1979 to like 2003 or something. So he's been, but he was funny with the Red Sox cup of coffee with like almost every team. It seemed like, um, but Ricky was very funny. He would speak, he would call himself Ricky. So he would say, Ricky did this or Ricky did that or whatever. Like, so, but I don't know. I think Chuck's is more intentional. John Sally. If you remember John Sally, he was an actual standup comedian. Um, one other recent person I'll throw into the mix, honestly, is Blake Griffin.Track 3:[13:46] Blake Griffin's one of the funnier athletes. Chuck and Blake Griffin are probably the two funniest athletes that I've seen in my opinion. And Blake Griffin's appearance on SNL two seasons ago in the Kim K show. Yeah, exactly. I'm halfway surprised he never hosted, but I don't know. He took classes at the Groundlings and stuff, so Blake was real serious about it. Yeah, but Chuck's just naturally funny. It seems like he doesn't even have to try. like you think like that's part of what draws people to him as an snl host is just sort of like some sort of natural humor like what is it that's made him such like a beloved figure in our community well i think it's kind of what i said is that there there might be a divide sometimes between the sports world and the theater slash comedy world and so when you see somebody who's willing to play for the other team which is maybe the team that we're on on this podcast of being comedy commentators slash analysts, and to see somebody come over to that side, and the fact that he's come back. I mean, we're going to talk about his shows, but he's hosted four times now.Track 3:[14:51] Which is i i would consider a record for an athlete unless you count the rock as an athlete which i feel like he already is more of an actor coming from wwf first appearance like i count as an athlete appearance yeah but he was promoting his wrestling it was like he was like almost there as the rock and gimmick so i can maybe count that yeah so i mean he the rock is a five-timer but uh chuck is right behind at four and so to answer your question i feel like people are so you can say this about sports politics comedy anything like that people are always embracing somebody who's embracing them so i think that charles barkley the willingness to come back i mean he was coming off an n uh nba mvp season right so he was the reigning mvp i mean michael Jordan hosted in I think 91 and then he went on to be MVP but Charles Barkley reigning MVP we saw like uh Tom Brady and Eli Manning like they came off a Super Bowl win um Travis Kelsey more recently but so Barkley was the reigning MVP came in you know it's we're gonna talk about the show do that that show so we'll get into in a second but coming back three more times and just you He's not a trained comedian, but having a blast. I feel like the cast always liked working with him. We'll talk about some of the sketches that he appeared in that they wrote for him.Track 3:[16:17] He was just so game. I think people in the SNL community and comedy just are down for somebody to hop over the fence.Track 3:[16:25] That's such a good point. Somebody from another world really embracing our world of SNL. That's a really good point. That's a really quick way to endear yourself to our community as a quote-unquote outsider.Track 3:[16:39] So yeah, no, I think that's such a good point. I always get stuck too on just the concept of athletes in general as hosts and how people feel about that. So you as a huge SNL fan, what do you think about athletes in general as hosts of the show? Honestly, I love it. Not because I'm a sports fan. And that does help because usually I know the person before they host, whereas maybe people were watching one night and JJ Watt was on the screen and they were saying, who the hell is this guy? So that helps that I know the people, but...Track 3:[17:11] I think one of the best things about SNL, and you can quote me on this, is having not just comedians host the show. I think that it would be a great show if every week it was a hot stand-up or someone promoting a comedy movie that's coming out. But having other areas of entertainment come in is the beauty of the show. So we don't get it every season. We don't, of course, get it multiple times a year but when we see somebody like that come in it just brings us a certain energy it might not make for the funniest show or the most memorable sketch that's okay with me though it's a fun ride and it's something new and different and that's all i want from snl no matter what yeah i think i tend to get surprised in some ways i'm always skeptical going in they announced an athlete and i think in my mind i'm going to watch the episode and.Track 3:[18:08] And suffer from like i'll be embarrassed for them and i hate feeling that way i hate seeing somebody on screen and i'm like feeling embarrassed for them so i in my mind i'm automatically like gloom and doom like oh no how is this gonna go travis kelsey's hosting how's this gonna go but i always tend to be pleasantly surprised i think like remember there's a low bar but it's always like some sort of a different energy i think when athletes host totally and i love low bar snl i won't lie like a lot of times i go in to a titan of the show and i get let down a little bit so when someone comes in that i've literally like an actor or actress i've never heard of and they impress me like that's great and same with athletes yeah so we've had athletes from all major sports that that i can remember even hockey we've had one hockey player that i I remember. Only one, right? Yeah. Only one hockey player. The great one, yeah. Yeah, the great one hosted, Wayne Gretzky. So yeah, so we've been, I think it's pretty cool, the times that we do see a pro athlete host. We're in for a wild ride. And we just had an Olympics on NBC.Track 3:[19:17] So, Simone Biles. Maybe Simone, exactly. Come on down. Victory lap. Following Michael Phelps' footsteps as an Olympian. Nancy Kerrigan. Nancy Kerrigan, yeah. Yeah, so do I do remember maybe both of those episodes were a little rough? Michael Phelps, I think, is pretty good. Was it good? Okay, I haven't watched him in a long time. Michael Phelps, Space Olympics alone can get that up to a C. Okay, I think I need to go back and re-watch. Maybe I'll re-watch Phelps' episode if Simone Biles ends up hosting.Track 3:[19:50] Yeah, good call. I'll be proved wrong. So, as far as Charles Barkley, a little bit of sports nerd background before he hosted his first episode. Um he hosted in september of 93 it was the season premiere so if you're a basketball player you're gonna host probably in the first two or three episodes because the way the season works if you're not hosting one of those first three episodes you're just not hosting that season so every basketball player that we've seen they'll get like the season premiere early on unless they're retired or something like that so he hosted in september of 93 by that point as you you mentioned like charles was probably considered the second best player in the league behind michael jordan won that mvp in 93 led the suns to the nba finals the summer prior the leading scorer on the dream team it wasn't michael jordan it's charles barkley that was the leading score and arguably the the dominant personality on that dream team so like couple all.Track 3:[20:48] Of that with his personality i think it did make sense for him to host snl in 93 so again uh season 19 episode one notable because of musical guest nirvana uh appeared then that was their second time on the show um right away mike like really memorable monologue and a really memorable in my opinion snl moment from a lot of people's childhoods uh in that monologue with a certain like children's character yeah i mean first of all i watched the show last night the 93 is first show and how young he sounds because keenan thompson has now done an impression of charles brockley 22 times.Track 3:[21:31] On snl and so you know you're used to that cadence of the impression from keenan and of course if you watch inside the nba and you know charles brockley well you can do an impression yourself kind of like a christopher walken type of person everybody can do with charles brockley and say you know that's terrible whatever um he sounds so young and he doesn't really get too much live screen time because the monologue is dedicated to a pre-taped segment of him playing one-on-one with barney the.Track 3:[22:00] Purple dinosaur yeah yeah and he's like elbowing barney uh in the face and dunking on him and uh doing all that stuff and i think it was a play so i think around this time barkley had some ads where he said i am not a role model so that was a being he's like i'm not a role model parents are role models so he had this whole thing of like you need to be role models to your kids because i'm not so maybe it was kind of a play off of that like another i guess barney's considered like maybe with kids role model i'm gonna push barney around and elbow him in the head and all of that so that was yeah really memorable you're right though chuck um didn't really get a they didn't give him a lot to do in the monologue which is probably smart they don't know they you know i think jordan was a little rough maybe like he had a good episode but then jordan as a host was a little stiff so maybe that the expectations they don't want to give the athlete a ton in the monologue i'm guessing yeah for sure and overall that night he appeared in seven out of the 14 segments not including the musical performance intros um and i will say i think the best part of the show was nirvana so i was gonna shout out the first time i listened to snl hall of fame thomas senna the man himself was the guest talking about nirvana so had to shout that out. So yeah, Nirvana was really memorable in this episode. Is there something, a sketch or anything?Track 3:[23:28] Sticks out as far as charles barkley and his first time here on the show goes, definitely the one that seemed like they could use him and you know we'll talk about his later shows where they put him front and center but the first episode which like i mentioned there are like a handful of segments you know have to show of course including cold open and we can update that he did not appear and was the steward smalley daily affirmations because they just kind of let him be himself, even though they did call him Charles B., who plays for the Phoenix S's. So that got a laugh out of me. And Muggsy Bogues comes on, and he joins the sketch. And it's a classic Daily Affirmations with Stuart Smalley sketch, but it seemed like he was comfortable with that. So I guess since you're the best basketball player in the world, then I guess I guess you've won a lot of championships. Well, actually I never won the championship.Track 3:[24:36] And Charles, how do you feel about not having won, you know, a championship? Fine, it's no big deal.Track 3:[24:48] But they did right after that or a couple sketches later do the uh big and tall black store, and you know charles brockley was like you know front to you know straight to camera mugsy also appears in that one so i'll shout those ones out as like a a soft launch of charles brockley's comedic career yeah i definitely think that daily affirmation stood out to me as well i jordan had done a daily affirmation with store smallie and his hosting gig two years prior. So it was really funny. It was almost a callback to Jordan without saying his name because Charles said that he referred to himself as the best basketball player in the world. And then I love Stewart's response. He's like, well, if you're the best basketball player in the world, then I guess you've won a lot of championships. And so that's like Charles laughing at himself. As we saw post-career, him and Shaq, they're always kind of giving Charles grief for never winning a title. So I think that showed that Charles can laugh at himself when Muggsy was sharing his feelings to Charles. You could tell Charles was having fun with it and it's kind of starting to break a little bit. So I definitely dug that daily affirmation with Stuart Smalley. Charles Barkley's big, tall, and black men's stores. I like that they just gave Charles something to do like straight to camera, like something solo, just to like give him his kind of showcase like it's just Charles. When you're Charles Barkley, shopping for clothes is never easy. Too small?Track 3:[26:15] Too short? Not black enough. That's why I started my chain, Charles Barkley Big, Tall, and Black Men Stories. You see, ordinary black men have been able to always dress in style. Now big and tall and black men can too. Kind of a fun concept. He's not taking himself too seriously. So those are really two good pulls as far as showcasing his personality goes. Yeah, for sure. Those are the two that stood out for me. He did do the donkey basketball camp at the end of the show, which was funny if for no other reason that we have Charles Barkley, 6'6", on a donkey. I think they didn't make the donkey hold the entire weight of the round amount of rebound. I was sitting there wondering, too. I'm like, is that donkey okay?Track 3:[27:11] But the donkey does lose it a little bit. It's a classic SNL live animal moment where everyone in the house and on set is laughing. That was a good way to end that show. Is it Tim Meadows' donkey that just starts walking away? Way yeah i think yeah there's like i think four donkeys on set yeah yeah and i think uh it's probably an old comedy rule that just like a group of people sitting on donkeys is just a funny visual they recreated it there was the political sitting on my donkey political talk show that they did uh in the late 90s that that was really funny and i think just that visual of people sitting on donkeys like time-tested classic and i'm a huge fan of donkeys i think that they're very underrated, underrated animal in general yeah that's a hot take here donkeys are underrated i like it yeah i would love to have a pet donkey i mean he'd probably live in the house yeah they don't name enough sports teams after donkeys as well also true maybe hot take as well uh yeah so i think that this this first one was just kind of testing charles's comfort level um like i said giving they They gave him like one straight to camera. He was in a gap sketch. So he's in like a recurring along with Stuart Smalley, another recurring character.Track 3:[28:30] So like a decent, like kind of endearing for a current NBA player to be doing something like that. And very similar to what you mentioned about The Rock's first show. Just kind of testing the waters. And also because like, yeah, the gap sketch. And we also got to keep in mind, this is season 19. So this is that fourth season with the Farley, Spade, Sandler, Meadows, Schneider, that group. So the viewers at home are kind of expecting these sketches, and they're fitting in Charles Broccoli to them. So with the Gap sketch, he comes in at the very end, it's fantastic.Track 3:[29:09] He comes in and drag and it's like a punchline. And then Rob Schneider, out of Africa, you can put your weed in this. He comes in at the end as the police officer. So it's kind of just like, okay, the sketch could have been for anybody. Let's put Chuck in at the end. And that's okay with me because much like the Rock show, it was like a WWF promo show. So this was kind of just, let's have some fun with Charles Broccoli on set. It's always funny to see somebody who's much taller or much different than the cast so that's fine with me yeah he was around he was 30 years old he was still in the league for seven more years yeah good shape he was in good shape by the way like you know i think that that was his most slim as an nba player too because he was maybe a little chubby in philadelphia sometimes but like 93 charles barkley like in skinny guy in good shape so it was back in the time too like the The conventional thinking, it seemed, especially on SNL, was if you're a big macho guy, you're going to win people over if you dress in drag. That was the whole thing. If we got an action star, an athlete, we put them in a dress or something like that, and it's going to get laughed. So I think they leaned into that a lot around that time period, especially. Yeah, and that was for sure popular at that era.Track 3:[30:31] Look at the Gap sketch. It's Sandler, it's Spade. They did that a few times. That was the fourth time they did that. So they had already been doing those characters. So to have, you know, okay, let's bring in the big NBA player to join them. It's, you know, low-hanging fruit for the show at that point. September of 93, first hosting gig. Pretty fun. It took a while for them to bring him back. He retired from basketball in the year 2000, but it took another 10 years almost for Chuck to come back. So it was season 35 episode 11 january of 2010 and again like some some more nba themed stuff he's involved in uh recurring sketches of the time so he's playing with this cast of 2010 and kind of getting involved in in their sketches and their nonsense and this this one might have like maybe in my opinion maybe his best performance in a sketch out of his four times um just a little teaser, but is anything in his second hosting appearance that kind of sticks out to you? Well, this one, notable now, you know, he's 46 years old, the episode was delayed, 35 minutes because of the Cowboys-Eagles.Track 3:[31:50] NFC wildcard game, Cowboys won, and they referenced that in the monologue because they're delayed. Now it's not Saturday Night Live, it's early Sunday morning live at this point.Track 3:[32:02] And it was funny, he did, I will point out, I have to point this out, he did cite some SNL stats in the monologue. He made fun of the show because they had had almost no black hosts for a long stretch.Track 3:[32:15] And he does call out Dwayne Johnson as being partially black to count him in those stats. So whenever I hear a host do some stats, I have to mention that. But for that, he gets to be in a whole new playground. Ground and now we're in 2010 so we're in this maybe third golden age um of snl with sudeikis wig sandberg you know it's near the end of that era probably because you know they came in 0506 but he gets to be in a mcgruber so he gets a three-part run pre-tape and i'll just start with that because or durell yeah durell it's daryl so i'll start with that because it's it's fun to have um you know we had betty white come after this show and she did a mcgruber as well and another sketch we'll talk about i'm sure but that was uh i'll start with that one i mean the mcgruber is racist as a concept was just funny anyway but to have charles barkley there made it way funnier in my opinion okay don't worry gang and when i say gang i'm not insinuating that anyone here is a crip or a blood or in any other black gang or white gang whites could have gangs too right durell it's daryl shown up but look if there's one thing i've learned from the sensitivity training classes that i was forced to go to is that regardless of the color of our skin we can all work together 10 seconds mcgruber okay uh biggie hammer that screw you got it mcgruber Okay, Durrell, respectfully.Track 3:[33:45] Hand me that pen. Which pen? That one, right there.Track 3:[33:48] I can't tell which one you're pointing at. Be more specific. That one, the African-American pen. What? Sorry, the Negro pen? The Negro-American pen? Just call it a black pen. Oh, so now... Just seeing the steps by the end, MacGruber had gone to some sort of counseling or racial sensitivity training.Track 3:[34:07] And he's just, like, he pretends to be Zen, But then at the end, the racist nature of MacGruber just comes out again. But Charles is just like, you could tell. I think this is a good reason why he's so endearing is because watching him in this sketch, it seems like he gets the humor. He gets why this is funny. He gets the show. Part of him understands what's happening in the MacGruber sketch and why it's funny. So I can kind of get the sense that Charles has a good sense of humor and knows why this is funny. Totally. and to go off a point you mentioned earlier about why he's a funny athlete is the self-deprecation because mm-hmm.Track 3:[34:46] I can remember back then when the first video came out of his golf swing. And if you've never seen that video, it's basically, you know, like a lot of ex-athletes who get into golf and he was one of them. And his golf swing is basically him doing a backswing, coming up, pausing, and then hitting the ball. And that was shared all over the internet. You know, we're going back, this is even pre-2010, but he did do a sketch with doing that. And i think this is maybe thomas you're going to mention the sketch but his his like physical comedy that he does it the concept of the sketch is him doing other activities in the same manner of going like going in pausing and then going way too hard so i i have in my notes him putting the magnet on the fridge was my favorite moment of the show no that you know that was outstanding and he's just so good. He's really good at knowing his brand or knowing why people like him and why people think he's funny. And part of it is he knows he has a jacked up golf swing. So he leans into it.Track 3:[35:53] Might as well, right? Let's lean into it, make fun of myself. And yeah, the Haney Project, that's what that sketch was called. Like, yeah, yeah, it's just total self-deprecation. But he's like, you know, we're all laughing together. Like, we're not laughing at Charles. And like, he's laughing with us. And he really did that. He really got the swing coach. Yeah, he really did. Yeah, I've seen him swing a golf club in person right before my eyes. And it was jarring. I knew I had seen video of it, but we went to a celebrity golf tournament in Lake Tahoe every summer. So we went in 2010, maybe a few months after this episode, and we saw Charles at one of the holes. And I took video of it, and it was just a sight to behold. So it is even more jarring in person to see that swing, man. That's a great two truths and a lie or icebreaker is that I saw Charles Broccoli's golf swing in the flesh. And it scarred me for life. But yeah, Charles makes fun of it. He made fun of himself too in a sketch, the very last one, Barclays Bank. So he kind of made fun of his gambling proclivities in that one, which is a really great premise, Mike. Barclays Bank. For over 300 years, Barclays has offered products and services tailored to meet the specific needs of its customers worldwide with investment strategies that span the financial spectrum.Track 3:[37:21] Boring. Hi, I'm Charles Barkley. If you're looking for a new way to manage your money, perhaps you should try Barkley's Bank. At Barkley's Bank, it's simple. You give me your money, I promise you two things. I'm either going to double it or I'll lose it all. And that's a promise. Yep, that was the other one I wanted to mention because of this quote alone. Give me your money, I promise you two things. I'm either going to double it or lose it all. that's a promise and then he only asked what two questions to them.Track 3:[37:54] Yeah uh what's your favorite color right and then okay i think they said you know blue or something and then they said uh what what about between red and black just between red and black yeah so yeah he he did take outside things that if if you've never heard of charles barkley they're funny but if you if you're familiar with what makes him funny even at his own expense he leaned into it so i think the second show is what makes him a returning host for three and four but also just solidifies him as like this guy can do this he would have been just a one-time host that we would remember like oh yeah i remember when charles barkley hosted in 93 but but his run on tnt and just him building up.Track 3:[38:40] His brand and everything and i think yeah you're right the second hosting gig was like okay i think we have a mainstay because this guy just kind of like gets it he's like down to clown and and that's what a lot of this show is about but my honestly like low-key my favorite barkley sketch i think he's the best in in the first sketch of the night it's an old it's a game show sketch called real quotes the next famous line is from the film a few good men it's famously delivered by jack nicholson and the line is you can't handle my privates incorrect be that as it may you cannot handle them so keep your hand to yourself no one was asking you can never be too safe reg it's an old snl trope of a game show with bad contestants they're asking them to like finish movie quotes and they're giving the the wrong quotes of course and they're frustrating bill haters the as the game show host but Charles has like, Pretty good comedic delivery in this one probably his best delivery out of the four episodes that he's hosted like this was a, Kind of impressive by Chuck. I liked his sketch and I liked his performance.Track 3:[39:52] I literally had that, Thomas, in my notes. Chuck's line delivery kills, I think, the best timing he's shown on the show. Yeah. No, it's really great. Who was the other contestant? I forget. Was it Kristen? It was Wig, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It was just the two of them. Just the two of them and then Bill as, of course, the game show. Yeah, Bill Hader, Kristen Wig, and Chuck. Yeah, Chuck played really well off of Bill and Kristen. That was impressive. When I doubted Chuck's like performances and sketches, his sketch comedy ability, which I mean, let's be honest, he's not as far as hosts go and like hosts that we especially we've talked about on this show. He's not the classic going to knock it out of the park with my performance in a sketch. But this one really impressed me. So I'm glad you highlighted it, too. Yeah, for sure. Sure. I mean, I have one more, and I just feel like it's worth mentioning because of this sketch's area in the SNL universe, which is Scared Straight. And I just wanted to show the list of people that he's come after and before, which are the prisoners that play alongside Kenan's character. We all know the sketch. We have the three youths there being scared straight by Jason Sudeikis' police officer. They bring Kenan in to scare them and make the raunchiest jokes of the night.Track 3:[41:14] And it was Tracy Morgan, Taylor Swift, Betty White, Zach Galifianakis, and Lindsay Lohan. So I mentioned Betty White did a MacGruber this season as well. So Charles Barkley, and this is maybe not a highlight for Chuck, but he's having a blast. and it's a sketch notorious for breaking, so you can't blame the guy, but I have to highlight that one. All right, now, my name is Lorenzo McIntosh. And I'm his dad, Marvin. But you can call us the Ken Griffiths because whether you get junior or senior, we gonna knock your ass out the park. That's right. Now, what are they in here for? You know what? Let me guess. Cannibalism. Good guess, son. What are you kidding? That's a horrible guess. No, we caught these kids hanging around the abandoned rail yard. Trespassing, huh?Track 3:[42:03] That's where it starts next thing you know it's rabies show me a pop rabies he's following taylor swift and cornrows that legacy you know that's that's a hell of a legacy to live up to yeah charles is up for the challenge uh so probably a very loose episode a very fun loose episode um again theme nobody's gonna accuse chuck of being like this amazing sketch performer this amazing app, but he has this like charisma about him. People want him back, and they got him back two seasons later. It didn't take 16 years. It only took two years to bring him back. Season 37, episode 11, January of 2012. As soon as he appeared on screen, I was like, has he lost weight? He looks a little more slim, but then that's what his monologue was about. So it wasn't just in my imagination. Yeah, he said he lost 38 pounds.Track 3:[43:01] Yeah, he was glued to the cue cards, though. That was one of my big observations. Like, oh man, Chuck, this is your third time and you're like really glued to those cue cards still. And the button on the monologue didn't hit with the audience. Yeah. He makes a joke to the audience that they all look like turkey legs to him. Like he wants to eat the audience because he's been so hungry on his weight loss journey. The point is Weight Watchers work for me. I feel great. except for one thing. I am so hungry. I am starving.Track 3:[43:36] So please forgive me if I eat one of you tonight. Y'all all look like turkey legs to me, especially you. But we have a great show for you tonight. A turkey leg named Kelly Clarkson is here. I'm going to cover her in butter and gobble her up. So stick around. We'll be right back.Track 3:[43:56] But yeah, he's lovable. That's part of his charm is he could just make a make a totally dead joke and and we'll hear crickets but uh so the first sketch kind of funny like i always kind of like when uh when the host is being impersonated in a sketch that they're doing so charles playing shack keenan playing charles barkley how many times did you say keenan impersonates 22 22 times wow and once in front of chuck maybe it was yeah or no twice did he because in one of his monologues i think he asked keenan to do his impersonation yeah he does as as himself as keenan pops out in that show okay or the other show yeah so so do you think like um starting with the sports sketch because i always wonder like non-sports fans like what they think are they going to get some of these references or anything so inside they do an inside the nba sketch like him like again truck playing shack and keenan playing charles like how do you think something like that goes over with kind of the general snl crowd I always think that's risk-reward, and you can't please everybody. They'll have younger actors, actresses, parody their own shows come in that I haven't seen the show, but...Track 3:[45:09] Jokes per page. If it works, it works. But it also would be an entirely missed opportunity if you didn't try to exploit that audience because you're hoping that they joined the audience just for tonight and hopefully they'll stay for next week. So he did it inside the NBA in the second episode we didn't mention but with Andy Sandberg playing a make-a-wish kid as a commentator. So this third one is an actual true inside the NBA because it's the panel. Now, Elyse, get your predictions for the late game. I have a prediction. I'm the great Chakradummas. Who's giving them all these props? I will predict that Charles Barkley's going to be fat again. He'll be so fat, he'll star in Fat Free Willy 2.Track 3:[45:58] First of all, dummy, there was already a Free Willy 2. But I'd rather be in Free Willy 2 than Kazam 1. What you know yeah we have keenan playing charles brockley and him being shack which.Track 3:[46:14] His like hair and makeup were just hilarious yeah it kind of didn't look like shack it didn't look like shack at all he was totally game to make go on and make fun of shack yeah on snl yeah i bet i bet they they showed the clip on inside the nba after that and they all had a laugh but uh yeah Yeah, I like seeing them start with something like that.Track 3:[46:36] Definitely, yeah. I mean, this is when you see somebody who's known to the audience for one thing, you want to give them that one thing. So no problems with me and as somebody who watches inside the NBA and knows that panel, that show itself is funny. So you just watch it, you'll get laughs. Of course, it's funnier if you're an NBA follower, but like those guys on that stage are funny so it's not like taking a political sketch that's not funny and trying to punch it up like those people are funny so if you haven't seen it then they are referencing comedy outside the show uh is there another segment or sketch that really like was a highlight for you in this episode yeah there were there were probably two other ones and i wanted to highlight the joanne's coming out sketch because we mentioned the 90s trope of with men in drag. Then we had a big era with Kate Adi-Cecilie of women in drag, especially in politics, playing Republican politicians and stuff. But this is a case where Charles Broccoli played small and it really worked because the timing with the other cast members was really, really good. And the sketch never really escalated.Track 3:[47:53] Which normally is not a great thing, but the fact that Charles Barkley, who's a big, large man, as a woman, announcing to the friend group that she's a lesbian, you'd think that it would have been more exploited and kind of like, ha-ha about that, but it was played pretty serious, and there was a moment with Vanessa Bayer. But what about that time we took that outdoor shower together? You never once looked down. I'm not attracted to you.Track 3:[48:25] Really? Is there something I need to fix? Yes. And there's no other line after that. They move the scene along. So just, yes. So I think a moment like that, we're going to talk about, is he Hall of Fame worthy?Track 3:[48:41] There are moments in his career at SNL that I like to highlight as this guy can do it. And that's a moment because he could have broke. They could have added a keenan crutch line after that to highlight the humor but they didn't they let charles brockley just go yes very very subtle very low key very good delivery and does uh was it paul britain who who you got the kind of like the the good funny visual of like paul britain's shortened stature standing next to chuck and and so there's like some good visuals yep he was the boyfriend of joanne yeah yeah yeah so yeah joanne's announcement uh i that one stood out to me but i have a feeling you're about to say um my favorite from the night but i don't know we'll see if we're on the same wavelength here well also fred armisen that sketches says you're gonna be a great lesbian very heartfelt yeah it just totally matter of fact not played for or anything else besides just that, you're going to be a great lesbian, is I would say... We're talking about Paul Britton. Are you teeing me up here? Yep. Okay, all right. Lord Windermere, which is one of four Paul Britton recurring sketches...Track 3:[50:00] And this like hit for me more now, especially knowing the history of the cup of coffee that Paul Britton had on the show who left to me, you know, mid season. That's a character that I don't think is, has that been covered on a podcast? No, there would be no reason. We certainly haven't covered Paul Britton here. Like, like Paul Britton, someone who's like just kind of slipped through the cracks of SNL history. Honestly, totally. Totally. You want to tell the folks at home what Lord Windermere is? Who he is? The premise of the sketch is Jason Sudeikis plays this guy who's hosting his friends to watch the football game. And his daughter's boyfriend is coming by. And he's this aristocratic, dainty, dressed in... What would you describe it?Track 3:[50:57] It's all very Baroque. Baroque. you have like uh bill hater as his footman playing a tiny harpsichord yeah yeah like very jaunting around the maypole you know feather in the cap knickers on yes yes yes exactly so he's this just like goofy character uh he he wants everybody to call him lord windermere i think his name's something else uh they call him a different name but he wants to be called lord windermere and he um he demands sweets that's his favorite thing he he's always wanting sweets he likes tickle fights uh so he's just like a little odd character created by paul britain did he only do it twice yeah that was it yeah and i remember both of them clearly like lord windermere is something that like was etched into etched into my mind and this was a really great When I love Charles, because everybody in the room was just kind of put off by Lord Windermere. They didn't know what to think, and I thought it was a little weird. But Charles immediately buys in and was taken with Lord Windermere. So I love that, and I love how Charles played it. I know a riddle, but I shan't tell us all unless you can pinch my bottom. But you'll have to catch me first. I'm on it. Get that button over here. Bring that little... How about you hear that riddle? For the love of God, Garrett, piss that bottle. I'm crying.Track 3:[52:19] Oh, man, this is the best night of my life. I love the little Lord. He's just a regular Joe. A regular Joe? And that's also the nature of that sketch, is Sudeikis is the girlfriend's dad, and he loves him. He loves him, yeah. Already, that's the premise of the sketch, is you think, the trope of meeting your girlfriend's father is going to be tough. It's going to be some machismo and some nervousness. It's that this little guy prancing around and Sudeikis can't get enough of it. And so Barkley plays as the extension of him. You've got to pinch his bottom.Track 3:[53:00] I'll have a riddle for you, but I won't tell you unless you pinch my bottom. And he starts running around. and like Barkley wants in on that so the other two you know Sandberg and like they're just trying to watch the game but yeah Barkley's all in he's all in I love when Barkley says uh I want to hold him just like just as a matter of fact that like gave me a nice like real genuine laugh and Chuck's just like I want to hold him and he's so Paul Britton's so small that he could and Sudeik is just yelling at Andy Sandberg who's his son why don't you go get Lord Windermere some sweets just the whole is this chaos like uh this and what's the other paul britain that i like sex ed is another yeah that was his one that he did the most that i love that one so that that's if anything he's known for it's that but this one is a hidden gem because is it the greatest sketch ever no but it has a joke and it hits you with it and you i like it and most importantly i think chuck is like genuinely good in this sketch too and trying his hardest i think out of all the sketches he's been in to not break yeah that's surprising because it seems like once per episode that that he'll start breaking but it didn't happen in lord windermere that's kind of that's kind of crazy it seemed like he again he knew why this was funny and he's just down to clown.Track 3:[54:20] Because, yeah, at one point he does hold Paul Britton, Lord Windermere. And, of course, you have large NBA star Charles Barkley holding this small man. And Charles Barkley is doing everything he can to not just lose it. That was the highlight of the episode for me in terms of I think it was just the best sketch. And it was Charles' best performance in a sketch. Nice. I'm glad you liked that one. Yeah, I know. It was great.Track 3:[54:45] Absolutely. Love Lord Windermere. um yeah not not much else like they had one where he played a character called the dong father in the 17th annual adult video awards is basically the whole sketch was just the in memoriam at these uh adult video awards but yeah i mean snl uh obviously liked him he had a fun episode again a very loose atmosphere there in 8h that night six years later charles is back for more uh season 43 episode 14 his fourth and most recent appearance so it's been going on seven years now six or seven years since he's been on there is actually you know what especially like the run at the end i thought was really good like uh but what first stood out to you with this episode this one is fresh in my mind for sure i i have to say the previous one we just talked about a friend of mine went to that taping and so I texted him this morning because he was at the after party and I said what did you remember from Chuck at the after party and because he told me a couple months ago I had no idea I'd be talking about Charles with you tonight and he just said that he sat at the bar the whole after party and was surrounded by models.Track 3:[55:59] And they were doing tequila shots all night and Charles Broccoli kept telling them I have to be in New Orleans tomorrow or cover a Pelicans-Mavericks game.Track 3:[56:11] And that just played out the whole after party. So a little inside baseball, but shout out to Dylan for the story. The season 43 one. This one is interesting because they lean a little political in this one, right? A little bit, yeah. There's a couple concepts that charles brockley seems very game with but it's because of the lebron james shut up and dribble controversy when he spoke out about something and you know he got that comment about like just play basketball and that was a big thing going on in the whole sports world you know this is around kaepernick time kneeling for the anthem and so he says and it's a perfect chuck Chuck quote, I've been saying whatever the hell I want for 30 years. I'm hosting SNL for the fourth time for no reason. That was his tee-up was like for that more politically charged episode for the fourth when his previous three were mostly silliness. He does that. They do a Me Too style sketch with the Grabby Awards, where it's all about actors who are handsy on set and giving unwanted massages and stuff. And the male co-host is Beck Bennett, and he gets replaced by Chris Redd, who gets replaced by Luke Knoll.Track 3:[57:33] Charles Broccoli plays Tim Franklin, who's wearing not a Time's Up pin, but a Tim's Up pin. Oh, gosh. And then there's one other one I'll say is the Ned's Roach Away. Do you want to talk about that one? Yeah, yeah. So Charles plays a guy named Ned. He's the pitch man for his product, Ned's Roach Away. And it is very socially kind of aware sketch. So he gives basically, quote unquote, good roaches guns to take care of the bad roaches. So forget about those sprees. Roaches just drink that stuff up like tequila. You might as well put it in a piñata and throw those roaches a party. But with Ned's Roach Away, the party's over.Track 3:[58:16] Now, some people might say, but Ned, when gun-carrying roaches just add to my problem, that's so dumb it makes me mad. My bed and scissors make sure only the best high-character, guard-fearing roaches can carry guns. It's time to go to church. And none of my roaches are gay. And for really bad problems, you need Ned's Roach Away Max with Bubstock. There's like commentary on the discourse after there's a mass shooting like a good guy with a gun could have taken care of it and so that's like the the play on that which i found interesting because charles i mean charles will speak on politics a little bit but i've never really seen him get involved with something so like politically heavy in its message uh like something like that because something like ned's roach way like had did have like a clear perspective and voice i think, and it was a funny sketch it was all like animated little roaches holding AR-15s and the people in the house would be going about their day where they would hear just these gunshots going off as in the good roaches are shooting the bad ones, and they hit you with the button at the end that Ned's Roach Away is NRA.Track 3:[59:30] Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I admit, like, I kicked myself. I was like, I should have picked up on that immediately. Then at the end, I was like, oh, come on. You've got to be more of an astute viewer of SNL than that. So, I was kicking myself, like, after that. Yeah, that one I completely forgot about. So, you know, maybe in the consciousness at the time, you have these, like, three in a row political type of things. Or at least like socially social issues and then he had that pre-tape in the can that they had which was actually funny but the next one was was the homework hotline yeah him playing off mikey day who has a striking resemblance to like jim henson as the puppeteer i think his name is bobo was the puppet and it's all just sexual innuendo that he's hooking up with the puppet which i think has been been done but it was funny with Charles Barkley like literally having to carry that sketch it's really just him and a puppet and like callers coming in and he has to play oblivious at first and then he's like gets wise to it and he's like hang up on them so yeah there was a third one though as far as like like social conscious kind of sketch what was it kind of in a conversation.Track 3:[1:00:46] Probably even still but especially at the time he was in a sketch with Alex Rodriguez and then Keenan playing a former football player and the sketch is basically about how harmful the effects were of playing football yeah so they're asking the CTE conversation yeah exactly so they're talking about like Charles is talking about how hard basketball is how grueling it is and then Alex is saying how grueling baseball is and then Keenan's like obviously affected by CTE so that's like kind of saying something too like these sketches are kind of getting involved in a lot of like the discourse that was happening and yet they found a way for charles barkley to be a good player in all of them we talked about at least i did earlier about him kind of just being shoehorned in for a laugh in the earlier ones where he's leading these sketches and they're hitting so maybe it's a commentary about modern snl and he happened to be the host but he did a good job with it yeah yeah agreed um i said that there was a good run at the end. And the last three sketches of the night were probably like, I think the three best in my opinion. So, so they, like the beginning was like, wow, they're kind of going there with a lot of these topics. But then the last three, which as of now are the last three sketches he's done on SNL, Hump or Dump, which was Charles, it was a dark sketch. Like I was kind of a little surprised by that, Mike. Right. It's like the, the classic dating show sketch, but...Track 3:[1:02:13] All the commentary just comes back to, you know, rule of three, Charles Brockley is the third contestant. And he just keeps doubling, tripling down. If you don't pick me, I'm going to kill myself. That was the joke of the sketch. And they ran with it and made it funny. Nah, girl, you pick me because I'm Twitter verified and I always send you home in an Uber pool. Ooh, color me intrigued. And Doug? Let me put this plainly, Amanda. If you don't pick me, I'm going to kill myself.Track 3:[1:02:45] I'm sorry. I don't think I heard you right. Yeah, you did. I'm going to kill myself. I came to win, and I'm putting all my chips on the table. Hey, come on, man. That's not cool. I mean, you can't put that on her. If you're battling depression right now, we can get you some help. I'm not depressed. This is a game show. I want to win. Is he allowed to do this? No, of course not. Because he was just saying it so matter-of-factly, like, oh, that's just what I'm going to do. And then his justification was like, he's in it to win it or something. So, like, that was his strategy. Yep. That was completely strategic. Maybe they put that in there to soften the blow a little bit. Exactly. Yeah. I think he turned to Chris Redd and Chris Redd says, oh, I'll kill myself. And he goes, well, how are you going to do it? He's like, I don't know. He's like, see? This guy. this guy doesn't know he doesn't know he's never thought about it he's not he's just bluffing yeah.Track 3:[1:03:42] And like charles yeah he was kind of like straight face pretty decent characterization, of somebody like this so uh i think yeah i think that was a fun one by chuck the next one the construction workers one might be my favorite sketch that charles was in though he's part of the ensemble but just as an overall sketch it might have been my favorite one that he was was involved with like across all four it's up there all right i want to hear your commentary on it then, Okay, so the basically like these construction workers get into a conversation about what they would wear if they were women. And so I think Beck's the only one that's kind of resistant. Well, all of them are kind of they're kind of like put dipping their toe in the water of the conversation.Track 3:[1:04:21] And then all of a sudden, like the three of other ones, including Chuck kind of get more into it. And Beck's still trying to fight it. But I just love how they ramp up like the escalation is them kind of saying like, Yeah, I've kind of wondered what you know, if I was to dress elegantly, like what would I wear? Woman what i would wear and then it turns into them like having specific ideas of what they would wear and what would look good on them and everything so i just love the escalation i thought they handled this very delicately and very in a clever way so i was like all bored with this sketch come on guys let's eat roast beef sandwiches and talk about the girls we'd like to date around with huh come on we do that every day today we're exploring new avenues you You know, sometimes when I watch the Oscars on the red carpet, I'm like, how would I wow them if I were a nominated actress? I don't know, right? I think I'd wear a gown that had a large peekaboo hole in the back. I'd put a backwards necklace with a little pendant that comes around and floats in the middle. I don't know. I'm just spitballing.Track 3:[1:05:22] Yeah, this is definitely his ensemble piece because it's hard to make a pro athlete or a former pro athlete fit in the cast.Track 3:[1:05:34] Usually, we've seen it recently with a really hot host and they make fun of, or comment on how hot they are. A really tall host, let's talk about how tall they are. This one was just like Charles, one of the guys.Track 3:[1:05:48] And so, he was able to service the sketch more than comment on, hey, Charles Broccoli's on SNL. Like, isn't that funny? That's true. Yeah, that's a really great point. And he added to it. And again, it was good timing. And Chuck didn't always have that, you know. But I think in this sketch, it was just like he added to the tone, I guess. He struck the right tone for what the sketch was asking for. Whether it was by accident or not. but like he he totally like fit in it was like his true again yeah it's just his ensemble piece that he pulled his own weight in this ensemble piece yeah and this might be a thread that we're getting to tonight but it's the idea that charles barkley is not a comedically talented individual he is a funny individual for sure but gets comedy and we've seen trained actors famous people on the show who are in funny sketches and i don't know if they get it so the fact that he is involved and like i said servicing that idea we want to talk hall of fame in the night here like that's something that would you know edge him over to your to your ballot if you want to vote for him is that he is bolstering this, not a passenger.Track 3:[1:07:12] As many hosts are in good sketches. Yeah, yeah, agreed. And then the night ends in a totally fun way. Maybe his most fun sketch that he's been in in SNL, Last Call, one of those great Kate and Kenan sketches. Sheila Sauvage. Sheila Sauvage, yeah. Just Charles has the right amount of awkward energy for this to work, I think yeah and that's something that I don't know if we've we've hit on hard enough tonight is his charisma is so good like he's such a likable person, If you dig into his backstory, he had a tough childhood. He really was, like Thomas said, top of the night. He was short for his position. He was a rebound king. He didn't make his team. All these different aspects of him, but he's a super likable guy. So when you put him, this could ultimately be, if he never hosts again, his final SNL sketch, and you have him paired with Kate McKinnon, last call of course 10 to 1 sketch and it's everything you could want it to be, i gotta be honest when i first saw you tonight i thought hell no but now i'm not thinking because i'm drunk and of all the men in here you're the only man in here.Track 3:[1:08:34] Let's go back to my place and do missionary huh that's where you try to teach me english until you get frustrated and leave the country.Track 3:[1:08:43] I'd rather do the reverse cowgirl. That's why I put your cowboy hat over your face and walk you out back until you fall out the window. You're bad, man. You're bad. My favorite part, like the showstoppers, and they put those things from the dentist that they put in your mouth to keep your mouth open. Because their lips are in the way. Yeah. He and Kate just start kissing, and of course you always get the fu

Joe, Shari, and jD gather around the water cooler to discuss this week's SNL Hall of Fame episode. What does this trio think of Adam Driver as a nominee?Transcript:Track 1:[1:40] Hey it's JD here and welcome to the SNL Hall of Fame water cooler. It's a pleasure to be here with you. I'm parched so let's head down to the water cooler area where I'm going to meet Joe and Shari. There they are. Joe how are you doing this week buddy?Track 3:[2:00] I'm good I'm good. Shari how are you?Track 2:[2:03] I'm doing great. I got my water bottle right here that I just filled up at the water cooler nice and cold well.Track 1:[2:09] Let's talk some snl hall of fame this week we had uh an excellent episode where ashley bauer came on to present her case for adam driver um shari do you want to take us through the episode sure.Track 2:[2:30] I would love to uh very happy to get to hear from ashley again. This was her second time, I believe. Her first time I wrote down, let me see. I, well, we'll skip that because it'll take me a while to find it.Track 1:[2:46] Kate McKinnon. Kate McKinnon.Track 2:[2:48] Thank you, J.D. Your memory, you and Joe's memory far surpasses mine. Yes, that's right. Kate McKinnon. And of course, Kate is very close to getting in. So we'll see how Ashley does with Adam. She took us, she and Thomas did an excellent job of taking us through some of Adam's best sketches. And there are too many to list. And he, of course, has been a host four times. Who knows, could be number five this season. I know they talked about it on the Saturday Night Network. The chances of him coming back possibly look pretty good. Other hosts have done back-to-back seasons. So we'll see how that goes. And Ashley made an excellent case. She and Thomas both reminded us that his serious acting chops really add to his comedic talent. It really makes him an even better comedian when he comes to something like SNL. So I think that's pretty much the rough run through right there.Track 1:[3:47] Nice. Joe, what do you have to say about the episode this week?Track 3:[3:51] I mean, I agree with Shari. I agree with the episode. Adam is an intense, dramatic actor. And if you look in SNL's history, I mean, I'm just kind of going off of, if you look at like, you know, because that also applies to other great hosts like Tom Hanks, John Goodman, Alec Baldwin. Baldwin so uh if to go back to what uh everyone else was saying could he host again John Goodman did Alec Baldwin did I mean all these other intense dramatic actors did who've also done great jobs so will he be back next year I mean more than most likely uh it you know depends on who else they want you know but if there is an open spot I could see them you know calling him in.Track 1:[4:39] I'd be all for that. I'm a big fan of Adam Driver as a host on SNL. Do you guys have a favorite moment or, you know, a moment that will be on his plaque, perhaps, if he were to be enshrined in the SNL Hall of Fame?Track 3:[4:56] I mean, I got one that I think everyone just goes to. To me, when I heard he was eligible, the first one, the first sketch that popped into mind was Undercover Boss.Track 2:[5:10] Me too.Track 1:[5:11] Right. Right. Of course.Track 2:[5:14] 100%.Track 3:[5:15] Because it does two things. It takes a role that he was known for at the time. So it's kind of like, well, why should this guy host? And it's like, well, we'll take his Star Wars character and apply it into the world or framework of Saturday Night Live. And then he just scores, scores and scores. He's like playing both the Kylo Ren character as well as like a Saturday Night Live character. So basically Kylo Ren in a Saturday Night Live context and to see, you know, the big heavy of the Star Wars universe as someone getting picked on that and then and have him be just as great as everyone else in the sketch. I mean, that's just like a great way to initially like to meet him, you know, because it was probably because I think they said in the other show that was the first sketch after the monologue on his first show. So it's like, yeah, you see the sketch and you're like, yes, okay, this guy, he belongs. Let's do this. And then he hosted four more times. And like, you're just constantly thinking of like, why should he host? You think of that? And then you're like, yeah, they even sequelized it, like they said.Track 1:[6:38] Yeah, I think, you know, one of the things that made that so successful as well was it is a bang on parody of Undercover Boss. I, a guilty pleasure, have spent a lot of time watching Undercover Boss and they really freaking nail the conceit and the delivery of the show. So I think that that enhances it as well. What do you think, Shari?Track 2:[7:05] I agree with what both of you J's have just thrown down. It is a remarkable parody. I am not as big a fan, JD, of Undercover Boss, but I know a lot of people who are. And I have watched it at least once or twice to kind of know what the conceit is and how it kind of moves along. And they do nail it. They absolutely nail it. And the thing I want to mention that you two hadn't, but that Thomas and Ashley both mentioned, is how well he plays with or plays off of or others play off of him. Because Bobby and Taryn and Leslie, just he works so well with all of them. And they're all coming into a universe that he already inhabits. And somehow it all works. I know Bobby is a huge Star Wars fan, so I love that he was able to get involved in that and become a part of the universe. I could tell he's having a ball. And they just all mesh so beautifully, and they tell such a great story.Track 3:[8:13] And to add to everyone's point everything comes together in the end where they're taking undercover boss putting it in the Star Wars universe and then Adam Driver the writing and the performance of Adam Driver giving, I forget who it is but giving him the card that says after a rain comes a rainbow sorry I killed your son And it's like every part of that sketch, like just in that one line, it's like the writing, the performance. I mean, everything is shown off in that brief five seconds.Track 1:[8:54] Did you just clap at us?Track 3:[8:57] Well, I mean, I didn't mean to, but I was trying to signify the moment. I mean, even though I'm doing a podcast, I talk with my hands. So if you can't, I know you can't see me, but I'm conducting my, this is how I am.Track 3:[9:14] But here's something else I just want to go off of, especially what Shari said. Said uh adam blends in with the cast when he hosts that was a big note i wrote when i was listening to the podcast and watching his sketches uh he can either be the center point the fall guy he could you know like in um the oil time tycoon and career day or i mean we'll get back to that But or he could be the straight man.Track 3:[9:49] Which is usually a thankless role in the sleepover sketch where he's the dad who's telling everyone about what happened to his house. You know, usually like I could see like if it was Kate McKinnon or like a female host, they would have the little girl saying, oh, man, that's weird. And then you would have someone else tear and kill him or someone being the dad saying what happened but to have adam do it in such a you know and to see like um him do that and sleep over and then you know be the same guy in oil tycoon that's range i just and then like the fact that he could do any role like any uh any you know that uh that calls for him in a sketch he could do it he could be big he could be subtle he could be you know whatever they need him to be he could be he's.Track 1:[10:44] Probably a dream to write for yeah.Track 3:[10:47] Because like he could do accents he could be angry he could be you know and then like in the kitten skit uh he could be playful and happy and so he just has that range that usually cast members have yeah.Track 2:[11:06] Agreed shari.Track 1:[11:08] Is there a sketch there's uh joe said undercover boss you said you weren't as down with that did you give us a sketch that you appreciate.Track 2:[11:17] Oh no i definitely agree with undercover boss that would have been my choice actually yeah totally uh both both the original and the sequel i just think because that's the character that everybody knows him as. I mean, he's Kylo Ren. He will be Kylo Ren for the rest of his career. And what I like about him is he's okay with that. He's not one of those actors, I'm looking at you, Harrison Ford, who like, I don't want to talk about Han Solo. Adam and...Track 2:[11:49] Adam embraces the fame that Kylo Ren brought him and has ran with that. And I really admire that about him. And he brings that to us now. I do too. Every character he gives 100%, just like he did with Kylo Ren. Just like he's, I know he's done a million roles. I can't even think of all of them. I believe I've seen most of his movies, but he's in so much. And he's fairly young, so he's got a robust career. Career so i see him being a john goodman or as steve martin i think he's going to come back, many many times in the future at least that's my opinion i think i'm right because i just see him being around for a long time because he's so versatile as far as another favorite sketch i have so many uh i agree with joe the one with pete davidson where he plays the crazy oil tycoon i just watched that yesterday yeah unbelievable and i had somehow missed the one he did with bowen where there's a couple expecting the or trying to have the baby rather the gay couple me.Track 1:[12:56] Too when i heard that in the in the podcast i was like wow i don't recall that.Track 2:[13:01] Somehow we have to watch on a sketch by sketch off of youtube now and somehow we missed it and i never I never went back and watched it. And I was so happy that Ashley and Thomas talked about it because I made sure to watch it this time. And again, Adam and Bowen, who would put them together, right? But they are completely believable as a couple. I just loved it.Track 3:[13:27] Again, another ensemble sketch where Adam blends in.Track 2:[13:32] Agreed.Track 1:[13:33] Yeah, it's funny. You know, from a comparison perspective, does he end up being a Goodman, Hanks, Baldwin, or does he end up being a Timberlake where, you know, he's works with one sort of generation. It'll be interesting to see in the years that move forward. If he doesn't show up this year, uh, you know, will the cast change dramatically after 50? I don't, I don't know. No, it could be interesting to see what 51 brings us in those terms. So, yeah.Track 3:[14:15] To go off of that, to answer your question, will he blend in with future casts? It's worth mentioning that he doesn't have a specific sketch that he does with a specific cast member. You know like how timberlake did um well you know you know bring it on down the rappingville or you know dick in a box so he's able to say like i'll come back and he doesn't have to do that sketch with that cast member and that cast member has to do a cameo like he could just show up and do whatever you know and then you know do a kit you know do something innocent do something intense You know, he's not tied down.Track 1:[15:01] Yeah, that's true.Track 2:[15:02] I want to add to what...Track 1:[15:04] Sorry, Sharon.Track 2:[15:05] I want to add to what... No problem. I want to add to what Joe was saying, because that was exactly how I was thinking. JT was very tied to Jimmy Fallon. He was very tied to the Lonely Island. And when they left, they were like his besties. When they left, I think he was no longer as interested. Whereas Adam doesn't have that. He's not tied to any one cast member, just like what Joe says. And I think his career is not stalling out. Sorry, JT, but he kind of disappeared for a while, which I get because he had young kids. He had young kids. I get it. But he walked away. I don't see Adam walking away. I don't know if he has young children as well, but I see him balancing things and I see him being a movie star and in possibly another streaming series. I don't think it's going to stop for him I think he's going to keep going Even if it's just one project a year If he slows down a little Kind of like Tom Hanks is doing right now in his career.Track 3:[16:07] I mean, it's worth mentioning that his character in Star Wars is done. Now, theoretically, it hasn't stopped Disney from...Track 1:[16:14] I'm joking. The movie's been years old.Track 3:[16:16] Your character, whatever, in the Star Wars universe, they'll still use it. But I'm just saying that the Star Wars sequel series has stopped, but Adam's career has kept going. And he's worked with many different directors. And I could see him doing something silly, like a silly comedy. Like he was in that Logan Lucky movie, but then he was also in, I think it was, uh, he was in a movie with Pacino. So, you know, he's able to just keep going. And if his career is going, then, you know, he has something to promote.Track 2:[16:52] Why can't he help?Track 3:[16:53] Yeah. Why can't, exactly.Track 1:[16:54] You know, is there anyone currently in the hall that is a comparison that is like a comparable? I know there's not really from a host perspective, I don't think. Is there any other role that you can see him following? Or let me ask it more simply. Is he a first ballot Hall of Famer?Track 2:[17:18] I don't think so. Right. Only because he's so current. And sometimes people have trouble with recency bias. But I think he's going to be like Will and Kate. hey, I think he's going to get like 63%, 64%. I think he's going to get really, really close. Because I think the recency bias is going to work for and against him, just like it did for Kate and Will.Track 1:[17:43] Yeah, I still think Kate was a, that's a travesty.Track 2:[17:47] She'll be in this year.Track 1:[17:48] She should have been first ballot. She should have been first ballot.Track 3:[17:51] Yeah.Track 1:[17:54] Okay, I would be remiss to lose this opportunity while we're around the water cooler to talk about my favorite sketch. And that is Del Taco. So I'm real curious what Shari and Joe, you think about the Del Taco sketch by Mooney and Bennett?Track 3:[18:16] I mean, I mean, that is something where the host could have been like a director and then you could have had three cast members doing that, the bulk of that sketch. But because Adam is so awesome at being a cast member, he's able to just blend in, you know, and have the same rhythm as the other two.Track 1:[18:39] And that's Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney, which it's, you know, if you're looking at cast members, you can't look much further than those two when it comes to keeping up. Because they are, you know, banana pants sketches, typically speaking.Track 2:[18:56] Yes. and.Track 3:[18:58] It's almost like they're bringing him into their world because they have that rhythm.Track 2:[19:03] They have.Track 3:[19:04] With each other and then it's like okay why don't we have the host come in and try and do what we do and then he's able to do it i mean almost to the point where you don't even know which one's speaking.Track 2:[19:15] Yeah to a degree and i almost i almost feel like this was a rare moment where kyle's almost like the straight man or the the uh one that they sort of play off of kyle's sort of the play-doh and they're you know beckon and adam are the ones who are like trying to mold him into this perfect yes taco yeah and it's so it's so great it's almost like a sandwich right yeah we got the bread on both ends and then here's poor little kyle in the middle and it's i thought you were talking.Track 1:[19:50] About tacos at first i was going to say you're going to create controversy.Track 2:[19:53] Here um but they they're they're just a not a trio again not a trio i would have put together in my head but worked so beautifully and then a little bit of is that cecily who plays the female, i think it um no um chloe is it one of the chloe chloe chloe chloe chloe Yeah, Chloe Feynman. She puts her little touch in there too. And it's just a really nice melange of talent kind of coming together from all different angles.Track 3:[20:28] Yes.Track 1:[20:30] Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I couldn't agree more. Uh, I, it's going to be interesting to watch. Uh, if he does get 60, it's going to be like, well, why the heck doesn't he get 66? But, uh, we shall see. Let's wrap things up here with the taking a look at the previous three nominees, Beck Bennett, Sherry O'Terry, Garrett Morse. If you were to rank the four in likelihood of getting in, in order, adding in this week we're adding in Adam Driver, what does that ranking look like in likelihood of getting in? Joe, we can start with you.Track 3:[21:13] I would say I would go Sherry first. Actually, no, I changed my mind. Garrett Morris first. Then Sherry. Then because I know this is going to sound bad then Beck and then Driver because I just feel like the other three have done more overall you know that being the case and I know Adams is the host that's right yeah.Track 1:[21:49] So, of course, he can't have done as much as a cast member. And that's why it's important to, you know, like, you wouldn't say a director at the Oscars, well, he didn't act well enough because he's a director. You know what I mean? Like, they're rewarding him for being the best director rather than being the best actor. So, you know, you're falling into the trap, Joe, is what I'm trying to say.Track 3:[22:13] I guess. And maybe it's also because he's recent. I mean, again, how about this? It's only because it's those three. I mean, if we were doing this earlier in the season or something, if I had to rank Adam Driver to Beck Bennett, then maybe I would do Driver over Beck. But it's just, I don't know. It's just, and I guess I'm ranking them in the order that they all appeared in, too. So maybe it's a subliminal thing. I mean, but it's just how I feel. I mean, I'm sorry, but.Track 1:[22:47] No, don't apologize. Shari, how about you?Track 2:[22:50] Okay, so I'm giving what I think is going to happen, not necessarily what I agree with. But I think it's going to be Adam first. I think he has the best likelihood of getting in because he was so recently on the show and he blew the roof off the place. His episode was really good, one of the best of the season. I think that back, because again, I think recency helps. And then Garrett and Sherry are going to be neck and neck, but I think it's going to be Garrett and then Sherry. And they're going to be very close.Track 1:[23:24] Yeah. I think you're right. Sherry, to me, has a similar path to Molly Shannon.Track 3:[23:30] I can see that.Track 1:[23:31] Whether or not she makes it, we shall see. But similar path in my eyes. And I believe Molly started in the 20s. So...Track 2:[23:41] I i don't even think sherry has the following that molly has and sherry hasn't been in the public eye molly's been on stuff and doing stuff molly hosted within.Track 1:[23:51] The last four years right.Track 2:[23:53] Yes and she and he's on that tv show with vanessa bayer that was yes not a huge hit but plenty of people watched it so she had some she had some things going on where sherry has stepped away from yeah the screen and i'm not blaming her from that no no no i'm just saying that people People have, we all know, we're super fans. So, yes, we have longer memories. But a lot of the voters are casual fans, I believe. And they're barely going to know who Sherry is, let alone Garrett. So it'll be interesting to see. But Garrett's been in Two Broke Girls and stuff, so that may help him.Track 3:[24:30] That's a good point.Track 1:[24:31] Yeah, it'll be interesting to watch. 50 is going to be very interesting.Track 2:[24:34] Yes, I can't wait.Track 1:[24:36] Looking forward to it. Well, I'm also looking forward to next week. And next week we are going to be talking with our friend Ryan McNeil, who typically comes on the show to talk about music, and he's making no exception this year. He will be on to nominate Ireland's own U2.Track 1:[24:58] We won't go further than that. Because we don't want to give away anything for next week's episode. But we'll be back next week talking about the episode that appears on Monday. And again, that is Ryan McNeil and, um, Thomas, Matt, and myself. We're going to have a great time. And then we're going to meet around the water cooler and talk some more on behalf of Joe and Shari. 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We're back with a new episode of the SNL Hall of Fame Water Cooler. This week Joe, Shari, and jD discuss this weeks episode of the SNL Hall of Fame. Transcript: Track 1:[0:20] Hey, it's JD here, and welcome to the SNL Hall of Fame Water Cooler. I am JD, and I'm thrilled to be here with you this week and every week. But I'm more excited to be hanging out with Joe and Shari because they've done such a great job the last few weeks. So, Joe, how are you doing today?Track 2:[0:42] I'm doing great. How are you doing?Track 1:[0:45] I'm actually pretty darn good. The sky is blue and there's clouds. I took the dogs to the beach today for a nice walk. So it's been a good time.Track 2:[0:57] Okay.Track 1:[0:58] Shari.Track 3:[1:00] Hello. How about you? I'm doing really well, thanks.Track 1:[1:05] Are you ready to talk about Saturday Night Live, guys?Track 3:[1:08] Absolutely. Absolutely.Track 2:[1:09] We got a great subject this week.Track 1:[1:11] We do have a good subject. We are talking all about Garrett Morris.Track 2:[1:17] Yes.Track 1:[1:19] Shari, do you want to start with a brief recap of the actual episode?Track 3:[1:26] Oh, certainly. It was a fun one. Thomas was joined by the fabulous Darren Patterson from the podcast SNL Nerds, which if you haven't listened to it out there in SNL podcast land, It is a fabulous podcast. They break down episodes of Saturday Night Live and in the summer and during the off times, they do movies and other topics. They just did a great interview with a crew member who does one of the film units. So really excited to have Darren. And Darren is a fountain of knowledge and he's bringing that knowledge to discuss Garrett. And making a lot of good points about Garrett's involvement in the show, how he was often a little bit taken for granted, but he was a very much an in the clutch player. And I think there makes a very good case. And Thomas backs him right up, adding that Garrett's also one of the very best singers of all of the cast.Track 2:[2:26] I learned that from the podcast.Track 3:[2:30] Yeah, I wasn't really aware of that either. Oh, he was a fantastic singer. I actually watched the episode that he was most known for where he sang a song. And he's incredible. I mean, he's an operatic Juilliard-trained singer. And you can hear it.Track 1:[2:50] Wow.Track 3:[2:51] So that's the episode. And it was a good one. And Darren made a lot of great points, as did Thomas, as always.Track 1:[2:58] Joe, what do you think of Garrett Morris as a whole? Do you think he's somebody who is...Track 2:[3:09] Now, anyone who's in that first five years, I feel deserves at least special consideration for being in the Hall of Fame. And especially since Garrett was in all five years of the first five. and the thing is uh you'll hear this a lot it was mentioned on the podcast and you'll hear it today he was very underused now i just want to also point out that he was in all five years, however dan akroyd john belushi they weren't they left uh before season five that's right but But they each got best of DVDs. And Garrett did not. So that just shows you how underused. And I feel like people, when you go out and vote, I really suggest that you give him a second look because I believe he really is talented and underappreciated.Track 3:[4:10] It's interesting to think of somebody being underappreciated and yet part of that pioneering first cast that's uh very interesting to me um especially.Track 1:[4:25] Because he stood out he stood out because the rest of the cast was very white and he was not and a lot of the jokes and and themes of his sketches were racially charged in like a in a great way.Track 3:[4:43] Yes yes agreed in an appropriate way yeah definitely i don't know that you could do it now there'd be too too much sensitivity i think, but um it was hard hitting at the time for sure i mean it was something worth addressing, yeah yeah the white guilt relief fund that i know they oh my god and i watched that a couple of times it's unfortunately edited way down and it's not that long to begin with but the part I saw was just it's a riot and that was really really edgy for 70 was it 77 yeah they weren't talking about that, They weren't talking about the book. It was a hot topic when Saturday Night Live started. Yes.Track 2:[5:28] So, I mean, that's just worth mentioning that he had to tackle a subject that was very taboo. And he had to do it pretty much, I don't want to say all by himself, I'm sorry to all the writers, but he was the only one to represent the show. There wasn't any other African-American cast members.Track 3:[5:44] It was just him.Track 2:[5:45] And he had to tackle a very hot-button issue.Track 1:[5:48] You i don't even know and this would be something if you know this send us an email uh snl hof watercooler at gmail.com and let us know if and if if shari or joe you know this like let me know but i don't know that there were any african-american uh or or any minorities, as part of the writing staff.Track 3:[6:16] I'm so positive there was not.Track 1:[6:20] So he would have been somebody looking for his own, he would have been somebody looking for his own voice, you know?Track 3:[6:26] And not only that, J.D., but he was also, as they brought up in the podcast, and it hasn't been brought up, anyone talking about Garrett on the show, he was many years older than all of them. And he was the only one who wasn't from a stand-up or an improv background.Track 2:[6:45] Excellent point.Track 3:[6:46] Which they also talked about, Darren and Thomas also talked about. He was a straight-up actor and musician. He'd come off the Belafonte Singers. And Lauren was interested in him because of his playwright experience, apparently. Which I didn't realize I learned that on the podcast. Because, you know, Thomas does his homework.Track 2:[7:08] Kevin, that background is unique for Saturday Night Live just in general. That's very unique. Usually you come from Second City, Groundlings, Stand Up, and I know it's very rare not to come from one of those.Track 3:[7:26] Yes.Track 1:[7:28] Yeah, it would be interesting to see a list of people that are, and I suspect it would be very short.Track 3:[7:34] Pie graph.Track 1:[7:35] Pie graph, yeah.Track 2:[7:37] I mean, it would be a very thin slice.Track 3:[7:39] Yeah, when I hear, because I listen to Fly on the Wall, which I'm sure a lot of our listeners do, And they talk a lot about how it was pretty divided between improv and stand-up, with the bulk being improv. I didn't even hear them discuss any that had, like, theater or serious acting background. They all came from one of the two comedy tracks. So that makes him very unique. If I were to guess.Track 2:[8:09] I would say that, like, Michael McKean or maybe Robert Downey Jr.Track 3:[8:14] True, true. you know like the whole season 11 cast it wouldn't be a long list yeah agreed, yeah I like that Thomas and Darren talking about how he.Track 1:[8:29] May be the best singer because.Track 3:[8:32] I you know like there's some strong singers that have been on the show like.Track 1:[8:35] I think of Chloe Trost right now.Track 3:[8:37] Yes but Garrett Broser why is John Lewis but I don't want to get off topic. But Garrett is a classically chained operatic singer.Track 1:[8:53] That's nuts.Track 3:[8:54] He went to freaking Juilliard. It's crazy. And like opera and comedy.Track 2:[9:00] Those can go together. I mean, if Bugs Bunny has taught me anything, it's that opera and comedy is funny. And they could have used that in multiple ways.Track 1:[9:15] Well, tell us.Track 3:[9:16] I mean, like, opera.Track 2:[9:18] They could have tackled news stories. They could have been a Weekend Update character is an opera man.Track 3:[9:24] I mean, right there. Yeah, Gers could have actually sang opera.Track 2:[9:28] Yeah, I mean, yeah, where you get an opera singer, you got M. Chandler, who did it ironically, you know? Or you could, I mean, look at, I mean, he could have just sang funny songs. I mean, look at Weird Al. I mean, that's a whole genre is.Track 3:[9:42] Like, a funny song.Track 2:[9:45] You have this classically trained singer, and that could have been a whole segment. It could have been his reoccurring character.Track 1:[9:54] Yeah, I agree.Track 2:[9:57] So basically, the whole theme of Garrett Morris or this episode is how underly appreciated he was.Track 3:[10:05] And yeah, if you listen to the other podcasts, they pretty much list the best of.Track 2:[10:10] If not, pretty much the best of everything that he did.Track 3:[10:15] And right there that should if you're gonna vote for him uh it should be off of those, and like even with the douchebag skit yeah or sketch sketch i got it right on my hand he only had one line in it and he delivered it on a bullseye yes so you have the whole grand finale uh sketch where you got all the cast members here we share bill murray everyone doing the last sketch of the last five years and only give Garrett Morse one line and I'll be damned if it's the most memorable line and not only that that's the one they always use in the clip shows of like all the anniversary shows yes I agree and that is the point that Darren and Thomas made even though he's not on screen as much and he doesn't have as many lines when he has a line or he has a bit, it is very memorable. Like we're talking about him now and that was, 50 years ago, almost. 50 years ago? Yeah, coming out. He was definitely memorable.Track 1:[11:22] Yeah.Track 2:[11:23] And then, also in that superhero sketch, he played Ant-Man. Didn't have that much lines, but was memorable enough for them to reference it in the Paul Rudd movie. So, you know, he had just a couple lines. It was like, oh, wait, yeah, that's right. Garrett Morris played him back in the 70s.Track 3:[11:46] He probably had three lines.Track 2:[11:48] And it was rememberable enough to be in a Marvel movie.Track 1:[11:53] That's hilarious.Track 2:[11:57] So, I mean, he's a scene stealer.Track 3:[11:59] Yeah, and his new president of the New York School for the Hard of Hearing, that's in every clip show they do. It's so, so funny. Again, you can't really find a lot of his most memorable stuff online. line, and I could only find one of those. I wish I'd been able to watch more. I was just saying I wish I'd been able to find more of those hard-of-hearing sketches, or bits on Weekend Update, because they were so funny, but I could only find one.Track 1:[12:31] You guys have Peacock, right?Track 3:[12:33] Absolutely.Track 1:[12:34] See, we don't have Peacock in Canada. So I don't have access to just dial back into a... I've got a whole bunch on my hard drive, like but there's a lot of them that are dud episodes.Track 3:[12:50] Okay. The character is so rememberable that they did it verbatim with Garrett Morris on Family Guy. Really? Yeah, they just, they had him come on and do that.Track 2:[13:03] Like, that's how rememberable that character or that sketch was.Track 1:[13:10] That's fascinating.Track 3:[13:12] Yeah, it's a classic.Track 1:[13:13] It really has permeated pop culture in a way that not every star or performer on the original cast did necessarily.Track 2:[13:28] Here's another way he was remembered. I just came up with this off the top of my head. Robert Smigel for the 25th anniversary show. He did a joke about how Lorne Michaels was making merchandise based on the show.Track 3:[13:41] He had the Dennis Miller talking doll he had conehead suppositories and then he also had I forget the character's name but very very good drink, Chico Azuela Chico Azuela very very good drink so again another character that wasn't used that much but was rememberable enough to be referenced in the 25th anniversary cartoon, wow Wow.Track 1:[14:12] I mean, Darren mentions him as an unsung hero.Track 3:[14:19] I agree. 100%.Track 1:[14:21] Right? Yeah.Track 3:[14:25] In the documentary, Saturday Night Live.Track 2:[14:29] The first five years, even Al Franken said that he saw Garrett in a sketch performing. And while Al Franken was on stage watching Garrett perform, Al Franken was having this realization like, oh my God, we should use this guy more. Just like year four, we just had this realization now?Track 3:[14:51] Are you joking?Track 2:[14:54] In the documentary. I mean, I remember it was Al Franken that said it. It was the show, I don't know which basketball player.Track 3:[15:01] But the sketch was the basketball player.Track 2:[15:06] The host, was sneaking around playing on a basketball team and Garrett Morris played his mom. And he was playing this mom character so well that Al Franken had a realization that, like, this guy is good. And I'm realizing this in year four?Track 1:[15:24] I'm telling you, a big part of it would have been that he would have been writing for himself.Track 3:[15:31] Right. There was nobody.Track 1:[15:32] And, sorry, Shari.Track 3:[15:34] No, you're absolutely right, JD. he was he was there on his own and they talk a lot about how important it is for cast members to find a writer who gets them yeah and garrett didn't have that there was nobody who exactly got him both because of his age because of his race obviously and because he was coming from a less comedic background and nobody could hook into that but imagine if they They could have hooked into that. Imagine if Franken had realized the things that could have happened. They could have done some really amazing things.Track 1:[16:12] I think so, too.Track 2:[16:13] Plus, it seemed like people paired up better or they didn't pair up with them. Like, obviously, Ackroyd and Belushi paired up. The girls kind of lumped together. And Ackroyd and Curtin did stuff on Weekend Update.Track 3:[16:31] And I, you know.Track 2:[16:33] It's worth pointing out that Garrett wasn't an update host.Track 3:[16:37] I think everyone else was, except for Belushi, but not him.Track 2:[16:45] He probably would have appeared out better if he was an update host with someone.Track 3:[16:51] I also find it interesting, speaking of Jane and Lorraine, I also find it interesting that Jane got in first ballot because I was looking at our current Hall of Fame, who's already in, and I thought it was interesting that the three that I feel get at the case made that they were underutilized are Jane, Lorraine, and Garrett.Track 1:[17:13] That's right.Track 3:[17:14] And Jane got in first ballot, which I was amazed because I voted for her, but she's not as well known for being on SNL as Belushi or Aykroyd or Murray. So I was happy to see her get in. I'm very sad that Lorraine's still not in. And I feel like, I fear that Garrett's going to have that same fate because people, as I said, have kind of short memories. and I really urge you to look at his stuff and vote for him if you truly believe he does but I really want to, urge people to vote for him and I want to campaign for him because he really was talented and even though he didn't have that much stuff the stuff that he did have is worthy of everyone else that's already in there, A hundred percent agree. And I also want to suggest something to you two and to anybody, any listener out there. I found his ceremony for getting his star on the Hall of Fame, the Hollywood Walk of Fame, rather.Track 3:[18:29] And it's very it's very basic like i love how bare bones it is they're in a little shelter because it was raining and they're just on the hollywood walk of fame having this ceremony it's not fancy there's not a lot of fancy camera work and garrett gives like a 20 minute speech about his career and it's fascinating stuff it's really fascinating i didn't know how much he had done And he talks a lot about his beginnings, how he was homeless for some time. So I really urge people to check that out to get a full picture of this gentleman's career, because it is really pretty amazing.Track 1:[19:10] The burden of voting is a lot. You know, you're sort of expected to have listened to the nomination episodes. episodes, and then now you're listening to Water Cooler, where we're going to remind you even more. And it's interesting. Shari, you mentioned Lorraine. She, last year was her first year on the ballot, and she got 38%. So using that as an over-under number, Where do you think Garrett will land voting-wise?Track 3:[19:48] I feel like Garrett's going to be right there with her, maybe right around 37%, 38%. It's going to be real close.Track 1:[19:58] So right around the same.Track 3:[19:59] I think so.Track 1:[20:00] How about you, Joe?Track 2:[20:02] Sadly, and this breaks my heart.Track 3:[20:05] And I hope I'm wrong, but he might be in the 20% because he's not recognizable as some of the other people and it's hard to research him and, he just doesn't have that much stuff out there and I don't want people thinking he should just get in just because he's in the first five years. I want him to get in because of the stuff that he did in the first five years.Track 2:[20:33] But if you're asking me what his percentage is, it's probably going to be low because he doesn't have that much stuff out there.Track 1:[20:40] Do you think it'll be lower than Lorraine then?Track 2:[20:43] It breaks my heart, but if I was to go above or below Lorraine, it breaks my heart, but I'm probably going to say below. It breaks my heart, though.Track 3:[20:55] I think he's a little above Lorraine because he's been in the public eye and people know him more where she's not been in a lot of things. And he's been around, so people know him. People watch Two Broke Girls. People rock some of his stuff. So I think he's going to at least be the same or a tiny bit higher.Track 1:[21:19] Well, I wonder how much influence the fact that it's the 50th anniversary this year and will be, whether or not they revisit previous things on the show. You know, there's going to be the 50th anniversary show. I suspect it's going to be with the movie. It's going to be more in people's minds. So I wonder if that'll have any impact on voting.Track 2:[21:47] That's a worthy point. And it probably will on some people.Track 3:[21:53] And hopefully it'll have an impact on Garrett.Track 1:[21:56] Yeah, that's what I mean, mainly.Track 2:[21:58] I agree. I'm agreeing with you, yeah.Track 3:[22:00] And I've heard the, I just read a Rolling Stone article just before I came on with you two, that they had seen it at the Telluride and it was a bit of a review. And they mentioned Lamorne Morris's, performance as garrett and it was one of the things they pointed out in the article so that that might give garrett a little push it's that performance is getting a lot of talk and uh that will put garrett back in people's consciousness which is a great okay yeah maybe he will be uh equal or above lorraine oh i could you're starting to sway me well i i wonder what What Lorraine will get in terms of a bump this year. Right.Track 2:[22:44] Like whether it's going to go down or up.Track 3:[22:47] I feel like I've been hearing more about Lamorne's portrayal than I've heard about. I can't even remember the actress who's doing Lorraine. Lamorne's been getting a lot of positive buzz. And I've heard he just nails it. Well, I've got a ticket to see it at the Toronto International Film Festival. Oh, so jealous. Alas.Track 1:[23:09] Yeah. So we'll definitely talk about it.Track 2:[23:11] I'll follow me and T.D. because he's going to take me.Track 3:[23:13] Right?Track 1:[23:14] If you can get up here, I'll take you. I got an extra ticket.Track 2:[23:19] Oh.Track 1:[23:20] Yeah.Track 2:[23:21] Well, Shuri's like in Michigan, so she's got a head start.Track 3:[23:25] That's true.Track 1:[23:26] I'll send my private jet over. I'll send the SNL Hall of Fame jet over.Track 3:[23:30] All right. I'll pack my bag.Track 1:[23:34] Okay. I want to know a little bit more about some of the other candidates that you guys have talked about this year. You've talked about Beck Bennett.Track 3:[23:46] Yeah.Track 1:[23:47] And you've talked about Sherry O'Terry.Track 3:[23:50] Yeah.Track 1:[23:52] Now we're discussing Garrett Morris. So if you had to rank those three, and I'm not saying if you had to, I'm going to say you have to. rank those three in terms of their likelihood to get in or get a substantial amount of the vote. And I could tell you, Oh, Beck Bennett wasn't on the ballot last year. Nevermind. So I can't tell you what he got last year, but, um.Track 3:[24:24] Yeah, I'm curious.Track 2:[24:26] I would say, if I were to go one, two, three, with one being highest, I would say it would go Shiri.Track 3:[24:35] Garrett, Beck.Track 2:[24:36] Shiri is recognizable for having multiple characters. Garrett is recognizable for being first five years, among other things. And then Beck Bennett is just newer. So he just hasn't been around as long as the other two.Track 1:[24:54] That's right yeah he's only been away from the show for a couple years too.Track 3:[24:58] I'm gonna disagree there i think back to the edge because of his recency look at how well kate did now brandon kate's in a class how did kate not get in oh yeah she's very close though i i i do think i do think her chances are good this year but sticking with back i think you're right I think he's got that recency. I think people really like him. I think people are realizing, just like with Bobby, who we're going to talk about in later watercolor episodes, people are realizing how essential these players were to the game now that they're away from it. Because I think we all took back Bobby, maybe not all, but I certainly didn't think about them. But now that I'm watching more and more of their sketches and what a pivotal role they played during their seasons. I think they're both going to do quite well, and I do think it's because they're more recent, and again, people have short memories. So I think it's going to be back, Sherry, and I think Garrett is going to be, unfortunately.Track 2:[26:07] I like that reasoning.Track 1:[26:09] I don't agree with it.Track 3:[26:10] But I like it.Track 1:[26:10] You've made mention, Sherry, as well, that you're worried that he doesn't even get the 10%.Track 3:[26:17] Yeah, I am kind of, I am worried. I did, I think I mentioned that with Sherry and Garrett too. I just, people have such short memories and Sherry was a long time ago too, but I'm hoping that with the 50th and people re-watching things, like I said, she wasn't on the 40th anniversary. She hasn't been around as much. That's not been back yet, Yeah, but I feel like he's going to be back.Track 1:[26:48] I think you're right.Track 3:[26:49] I feel like he and Kyle are going to sneak their way in, if not in cameos, in some way. And yeah, I don't think she's interested in coming back. I think she's kind of moved on with her life, which is totally her prerogative. But I think that's going to be a big decision.Track 2:[27:12] Because I like that point that you made, is that she kind of just came and went.Track 3:[27:16] Kind of like Jim Brewer.Track 2:[27:17] Who just came by, did her term, and moved on and never looked back.Track 3:[27:23] Yeah, agreed.Track 1:[27:24] Well, Jim Brewer, a little bit different. Like, I mean.Track 2:[27:27] Yeah, yeah.Track 1:[27:28] No, no, no, no.Track 2:[27:28] I know, I know.Track 1:[27:30] I don't think people look back as fondly.Track 2:[27:32] Just, you want to pick someone from that generation.Track 1:[27:35] Right. Well, I think a good comp for back might be Will Forte, who was on the list last year, and he ended up with like 63% or something like that. Will did very well. Sorry?Track 3:[27:52] Will did very well. I was surprised how well he did because he is such a controversial. People seem to love or totally not love him.Track 1:[28:01] Yes.Track 3:[28:02] How is that going to seem how well he did?Track 1:[28:06] Yeah, I'm very curious.Track 2:[28:08] Falcon, Aaron, and McGruder are very specific, either are on board or not.Track 1:[28:12] Well, I think he gets in this year because he was only three points away.Track 3:[28:16] Oh, I agree. And I feel like Beck's going to get like 60, 63% this year. Very similar to Will.Track 1:[28:24] You know, I would have been somebody who years ago would have consciously not voted for Beck Bennett. it. But man, did he ever win me over? By the time he left, I remember his last sketch was, he did Vin Diesel. It was the 10 to 1 sketch. And he just nailed it. And it's Vin Diesel.Track 2:[28:52] Just for trivia, do you know someone else that did Vin Diesel? I don't. Richie O'Shans.Track 1:[28:59] Really?Track 2:[29:00] David Spade hosted.Track 1:[29:02] Ah indeed I.Track 2:[29:06] Just wanted to point out because there's two totally different performers, that's why it's a cut in my head.Track 1:[29:15] So that's how you have them so that's how you have them ranked we'll revisit this next week and see once we add a fourth layer, where they fit in and you know we'll sort of revisit this as the season goes on like we do with your ballots I'm very curious. You guys talked about your ballots in the first episode. I'm curious, by the time we get to maybe the fifth episode, we'll revisit it and see if anything has changed.Track 2:[29:42] Okay.Track 1:[29:43] Like, Joe, you only used 10 votes, so you've got some room, if you wanted.Track 2:[29:51] I went first in the DECA system, but I'll look at it again.Track 1:[29:56] Yeah, well, Well, Shari had used all 15, and I believe she said she had two that were on the cusp.Track 3:[30:04] Yes, and Garrett was one of those two, and I really want to put him on my ballot. So many of the ones on my ballot are ones that don't have much time left, and I don't want them to fall off. I know.Track 1:[30:21] We lost a lot last year.Track 3:[30:23] We did, and I have several that are going to go this year because it's their fifth time on the ballot. So I hope they all get in, but I'm not really too hopeful, but who knows?Track 1:[30:40] Well, I think one of the things we changed the way the ballot looked last year, and we included little factoids, like last chance, that sort of thing. And I think that helped people realize. I do think that helped. Yeah, I think so.Track 3:[30:58] I'm so happy Maya and Molly got in, because that would have been it for them.Track 1:[31:02] They were done, right?Track 3:[31:04] Yeah, which would have been a travesty. So I'm very glad.Track 1:[31:08] This year, we've got Jack Handy, Dave Grohl, Paul Lappel, Candice Bergen, Paul Rudd that could fall off the ballot.Track 3:[31:21] Voters, we're urging you. Don't let this happen.Track 1:[31:27] Candice Bergen, 35%.Track 3:[31:31] The original first female five-timer. Yes. And she still shows up in cameos And I guarantee you she'll be at the 50th anniversary She's such a huge friend of the show She's royalty, Even though she hasn't done any TV shows or movies recently She still shows up And does her time I wouldn't be surprised if she showed up on Only Murders But as far as Saturday Night Live goes She shows up to Acknowledge her place In the Five Timers Club Yeah, so yeah she absolutely does belong in the whole thing I really think, I'm a big pusher of Jack Handy and Paula Pell as well so I hope that people remember this and I'm glad you're adding it to the ballot JD to remind people that they're not on forever that's right.Track 1:[32:31] Paul Rudd looks rough. He's got 17%. I don't know that that looks good for him at all. Or no, sorry, he had 12% last year.Track 3:[32:39] Yeah.Track 1:[32:40] So he went from 23 in his first year, and he's dropped. He went from 23 to 17 to 18 to 12. So I don't feel good about him. Candice Bergen fell from 41 to 35. Whereas Paula Powell went from 29 to 41. so there's good news for her.Track 3:[33:03] I'm hoping she gets her name out there more often and gets recognized for her connections Paula? Yeah because I'm not sure how the great majority of people, know what she contributed to the show She's been showing up She was very important Yeah and she's been showing up a lot lately She was in a couple of episodes She was in Kristen Wiig's Five Timers sketch.Track 2:[33:33] Oh, that's right. She had a great joke where she goes, I wrote here for five years, but right now, Kristen Wiig's... I'm going to play an audience member, and Kristen Wiig's going to pretend not to know me.Track 3:[33:44] She was also in at least one sketch in the Kate McKinnon. I feel like she was in that singing...Track 2:[33:54] Yeah, I could see that.Track 3:[33:56] I just can't remember the name of it, but they did a big song pre-date and I believe Paula was in it too Tampon Farm Tampon Farm Tampon Farm.Track 1:[34:07] Oh right Oh there you go The Kate with the guitar, Yeah.Track 2:[34:13] Yeah, she, and I mean, again, she helped with the cheerleaders. So if you're going to vote for Sherry.Track 3:[34:18] Vote for Paula.Track 2:[34:20] She helped with the cheerleaders.Track 3:[34:22] With the cheerleaders, yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm getting pretty excited about next week's episode, J.D.Track 1:[34:28] Yeah, I think so. We're going back to the host well after talking about three cast members. Shari, do you want to share who we're going to be talking about?Track 3:[34:40] Out you know they were just talking about him on the saturday night network which i know we talk about a lot right they were just talking about him because they're doing that they're doing that host countdown and he's quite high on their list he was number 10 i think uh yeah i believe 10 might be right 10 11 right he's in the top 12 i believe uh of course i'm talking about kylo ren friend himself, Mr. Adam Driver. Again, very recent, but this one I have to say I agree with. He is one of those serious actors like Garrett who does this great comedic turn, becoming a baby on a plane and just undercover boss. I mean, beep, beep. He's got a great couple. Oh, he was in a science room.Track 2:[35:34] Which is always great.Track 1:[35:40] Cecily and Mikey?Track 3:[35:41] Yes.Track 1:[35:42] Yeah.Track 3:[35:42] So very, very excited to see the case that our guest...Track 1:[35:47] So it's actually Bauer will be joining us. And... it should be a great episode because there's a lot of meat on that bone.Track 3:[35:59] Oh yeah. I'm very excited to come back next week with you too and talk all about Adam driver and what his possibility of getting into the hall of fame might be where he's going to land on those ballots. Yeah. I mean, he's on his way to become a five timer.Track 2:[36:18] So I believe that he could be in the hall of fame.Track 3:[36:24] I think so too. I think there's a good chance he's going to be a host in season 50, even though he was just on in 49. Other hosts have done back-to-backs. Yeah. He always has projects. I mean, he's always in several movies. He could be appearing in a couple of TV shows these days with streaming. Who knows? Anything goes. So he'll definitely have something to promote.Track 1:[36:50] I would think so. He's always got something on the go.Track 3:[36:52] Or he could just show up in cameo and just be a scene stealer that's true.Track 1:[36:57] That's true i i suspect he'll have a part of the 50th anniversary i just think oh absolutely he's you know the last 10 years he's one of the most memorable hosts exactly.Track 2:[37:08] I was thinking the same thing.Track 1:[37:10] So you know he's almost like this cast this generation's jt or walk-in walk-in or yeah Yeah, like how they all had different generations they worked with.Track 3:[37:22] I love the I'm all out of cash.Track 1:[37:25] I'm all out of cash.Track 3:[37:27] That's so good.Track 2:[37:28] Oh, yes, yes.Track 3:[37:30] And that's another one they could have went to Beck Bennett.Track 2:[37:32] But that's like a good team effort sketch. Yeah, yeah.Track 1:[37:36] Totally Kyle and Beck.Track 3:[37:38] Very exciting. And then he played that elderly teacher.Track 2:[37:40] But we'll talk about this next week.Track 3:[37:41] Yeah, very excited to talk next week. It was great fun talking with you both this week and always the highlight of my week. so very excited for next week's episode and very excited to listen to next week's episode because I know it's going to be a great one, absolutely I love talking to you guys and I love telling our audience to like and subscribe and do all those fun things with those fun buttons yes David Spade says smash that button smash that button, I will tell you smash the button And then just get another burner phone and just repeat.Track 1:[38:20] That's amazing. That's amazing. Yeah. Do that for sure. And again, the email I want to remind you is SNLHOFWC at gmail.com. So shoot us a mail. We'd love to hear from you. 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Meet Joe and Shari as they assemble around the SNL Hall of Fame watercooler to discuss a variety of things relating the SNL and its Hall of Fame. Transcript:Track 2[0:22]All right. Welcome to the SNL Hall of Fame Water Cooler Podcast. I'm Joe Gannon and I'm sitting at the water cooler with...Track 3[0:30]Me, Shari Fasco. I'm very excited to be here. I've got my cup and I'm filling it up.Track 2[0:38]All right. And then there I go. All right. Let's get into it. All right. So on On this podcast, we're going to be talking about the SNL Hall of Fame and who we believe should and shouldn't be in it. But first, let's kind of just introduce ourselves. I'm Joe Gannon. I've been an SNL fan since, I guess, 1991. 91 and what I enjoyed about it was as I was watching it like as it was going on since 91 I got to watch the reruns like on Comedy Central E and whatnot so it's kind of cool seeing a show develop and then learn its history at the same time and I just found it absolutely fascinating about how important it is to our society about because the show makes fun of our society and politics, and everything. And the last thing is, I grew up in the central time zone, so the TV show was on at 10.30 to midnight. So to me, it was like a show that waited until the last hour and a half of the week to make fun of the previous week. And you, Sherry, introduce yourself.Track 3[2:00]Hi, I'm Shari, rhymes with Starry, as I tell everybody, and I am a Michigan native, and I have been into Saturday Night Live probably since I was about nine, since it started in 75. I was really, really young in 75, so I don't remember it that young, but I definitely, definitely remember watching it at like eight, nine, ten. I was really into Mr. Bill. I vaguely remember having a Mr. Bill t-shirt. I just always loved the show and it's always been like a rock for me. It's been something that I've always come back to when things are good and when things are not so good. My husband is also into it. He's been watching a lot of sketches with me lately, getting ready for this podcast. And it's just, it's really just, it's comfort food. Just like what Joe's saying, it's comfort food. It's something that's always been there. and now it's going into its 50th year. I'm 54. It's kind of incredible. It's kind of crazy to think that it's been around. So I'm really excited to be here with Joe. I think both of us are super excited to be talking about these incredible people. I think we're ready to get into it. Are we ready, Joe?Track 2[3:15]I believe so.Track 3[3:16]We're going to talk about the season six draft. We're each going to do the two people we would like to see get in. And then the two that we don't think really have much of a chance of getting in possibly. I will let you go ahead and go first, Joe, and then I'll go after you.Track 2[3:33]Okay. So the first person I think should get in is Lorraine Newman. I believe that the only reason why she hasn't gotten in sooner is there's just a series of people that are a little bit more obvious. Uh you know that just i feel like should be uh you know people that just feel like they should be in uh like will ferrell but um as far as the original cast like obviously everyone from the original five years should be in um as far as where lorraine is in that uh group she's not She's not really a household name. She wasn't a Ghostbuster. She wasn't a Blues Brother. She didn't have a sitcom afterward. Everyone knows Aykroyd, Murray, Jane Curtin, Chevy Chase, John Belushi. And I feel like Lorraine Newman, who is extremely talented, just doesn't have that star power name. So when people are voting and they see her name... It just doesn't connect, or they don't immediately remember all of the great sketches that she was a part of. Or, if they do, they remember someone else that was in that sketch.Track 2[5:01]So that's why I chose Lorraine Newman. All right, and who's your pick?Track 3[5:06]My pick, I just stuck to strictly the season six draft. So I went with one, two of the draftees for this coming season that I would like to seek it in that I'm not really hopeful about. But my first is Sherry O'Terry. For all of the reasons you just said about Lorraine, I think Sherry is very, very, very, very, very underappreciated. She is absolutely hilarious. hilarious she stands up against the likes of will freaking farrell and holds her own yes even though she's this diminutive little she can't be more than five two but against will farrell who's like i don't know six four she still holds her own her comedic chops are that strong that she can hold her own and i feel that way in the zimmermans with chris katan i i watched her playing against Sylvester Stallone in one of her Rita sketches. And she really is amazing and so funny and so able to bring real relatability to these outrageous characters that she plays.Track 3[6:19]And I'm feeling like I don't think she's going to get in on the first ballot, but I do hope that The people remember her. I know she was a long time ago. I remember her vividly because I was in college. And that's the time when you remember the gas.Track 3[6:38]So I hope there's a lot of Gen Xers and a lot of Zs and millennials that are going back and watching and listening to our great guest. And Thomas, of course, make an excellent argument for her this season, I'm sure. So that's my first choice. Now back to you.Track 2[7:01]You made a great point, and the only word I want to add to it, just literally one word, is energy. She was full of energy in pretty much everything she did. I mean, with the exception of maybe Barbara Walters, but that's because it wouldn't fit. But if you look at all of her characters, that's the common theme, is that she was almost like twitchy.Track 3[7:23]I totally agree.Track 2[7:24]But, yeah. That's an excellent, excellent pick. Okay, so I'm going to go with my one, and we're going to continue the female trend. Someone a little bit more current. I'm going to go with Kate McKinnon.Track 3[7:41]Absolutely.Track 2[7:42]She, yes, yes, yes. She is one of those people, she reminds me of Amy Poehler in the sense that her talent seems to have been made for Saturday Night Live. Um now just i want to say this on our first episode uh to me the three things that make up a great snl cast member are characters impressions and hosting we can update not doing characters but hosting now you don't need to do all three to be great sometimes you can like jimmy fallon will ferrell dan ackroyd uh sometimes you can do just one dennis miller however when you do two or three, that shows that you're able to play any position.Track 2[8:31]So with that being said, with Kate McKinnon, she did characters and impressions extremely well.Track 2[8:39]The various characters, like the alien abductions sketch, that to me is timeless. That is one of the latest great reoccurring sketches. Sketches um and then as far as her impressions uh you look at amy puller who did like you know hillary clinton um and ever uh ever levine um kate mckinnon said hold my beer and then did uh not only female impressions but male she did rudy giuliani uh and such and a bunch of other politicians um and just i mean i'm having a hard time thinking of all you know it's trying to like name all the santa's reindeer or the seven dwarves you know you like you get down a few or you're like wait uh there's also uh you know so i'm i don't want to um take up too much time saying a lot of urs and ums as i try and think of them all but she is just where she just blended into those impressions and then characters and she was like Phil Hartman where she could be in she could do the whole show, you know she could do and it was almost unfair to the other cast members I don't want to overhype her too much you can't overhype her but.Track 2[10:02]I will. I do, but I want to be fair to everyone else. I want to be fair. I don't want to make it seem like the rest of the cast that they were less. I don't want to make them seem like they were less than they were.Track 3[10:16]But she's amazing.Track 2[10:18]But she was just, Kate McKinnon was just, her talent was made for Saturday Night Live. And I'm not going to lie, I miss her.Track 3[10:28]She definitely left a hole and she was part of a she was part of a trinity when you talk about her and cecily 80 unbelievable with things like twin bad i mean back home ballers just amazing the three of them together will just fire so excellent choice joe i'm gonna shake things i'm gonna shake things up a little i'm gonna i'm gonna break i'm finally gonna break up our like female male domination that's going on, which I love, but I'm going to break it up a bit. Like I said, I chose two from season six because that's where my head was at, and I chose a musical act, and I know J.D. Mentions this. Thomas mentions this.Track 3[11:12]Musical guests don't seem to get into the Hall of Fame. I think Paul Simon might be the only one still. Dave Grohl is knocking on the door, and he's he's on my list but the act i want to talk about they're coming up this season like i said is one of my favorite bands and remember i'm a gen xer so i know you know joe who i'm talking about uh you too you do i mean i watched a couple of performances it's hard to find musical performances especially when you don't have peacock which i know right i know snl fan without peacock But anyways, I love you two. I could not believe how amazing they were on that 8-H stage. Thomas made a really good point in the draft episode.Track 3[12:03]They were selling out stadiums at this time. I mean, they were huge at this time. But then they could bring it down and be right on that 8-H stage and be intimate and personal. And Bono, let's face it, it's the Bono show, right? The man can sing. He has charisma oozing out of his pores. And he just captivates. And that's exactly what he did. it. These days on current SNL, the musical acts are really getting out of control. And I know they talk about this in several of the podcasts I listen to. They're throwing all these dancers and visual effects and explosions. You don't need it. If you can sing and you're talented, you don't need it. U2 does not need it. I'd love to see them get in at some point. I hope they get at the 10% to at least stay on the ballot. But after Dave Grohl, I think they should be in next because they're just amazing. So those are my two.Track 2[13:07]All right. So let's get into the two that we think definitely won't. I just want to go first because I want to continue the trend of what we're talking about with the musical guests. Now, you said that it's going to be really hard for musical guests to get into the Hall of Fame, because they're not really a major part of the show. They're rememberable, but not as much as the cast, the writing, the host. So they're kind of like the fourth tier. But they're very important, don't get me wrong. It's just not one of the initial people that you think of when you think of the show. So as far as my first pick, I'm going to say Randy Newman. I agree with everything that was said when they were doing the ballot show. I agree with Randy Newman's great toy story. I love L.A. He's funny. When he accepted an Oscar, I don't remember specifically what he said, but he had a great Oscar speech.Track 2[14:10]Let's just put it this way. When you're voting for an SNL Hall of Fame, you know, person, I doubt that you're going to vote for Randy Newman. I mean, there's just a lot of people ahead of him in line, you know, like, you know, like the people that we're saying, you know, and then there's you got, you know, you got hosts that are well known. You got cast members that are well known. Writers are kind of a gray area, you know. And then musical guests are just hard to get into, period. And then Randy Newman is, you know, like people might know him from Toy Story and such, but they might not know him that well, or at least current people or whatnot. And I'm not saying anything, I don't want to say anything too much, too negative about him, but he's just not really a household name anymore. So with that being said, like it would be hard to vote him in the snl hall of fame so yeah i don't i don't know what more i could say after that it's just kind of kind of cut and dry i guess like you know like it's hard for a musical guest to get in and he's not really that well known as a musical guest so agreed.Track 3[15:30]In fact i agree so much my first totally won't get in was also randy newman and i'm not gonna to rehash it because you said it well. And even when J.D. nominated him in the draft, he said that he wondered if people would remember because he hasn't been... I mean, I'm sure he's still doing music for movies and doing movie songs and things, but you don't hear about him much. Like, I don't know if he had a new song in the new Pixar movie, the one that just came out or not. But yeah, I'm not going to go into it too much since you did a great job. I will go on to my second person and then I'll throw it back to you. My second person is a writer and I have to disagree with you a little bit. I actually, well, I don't know quite how you feel about writers, but you kind of sounded like you thought they were gray area. I don't think they're gray area. I think writing comes first. Great writing.Track 2[16:34]I don't think it's important. It's just not, the writers might not be well known.Track 3[16:38]Oh, I agree with that. But I feel that writers are the most important. They're that base ingredient. read yet. I don't care if you have the best cast in the world, if the sketch sucks and is poorly written and the characters aren't well-developed, nobody's going to be able to bring that to life. Whereas if you have a great sketch or a great script, a so-so actor, like say even myself, could do a good job with it. I think writing is essential. I don't think writers get enough love in the Hall of Fame. I don't think they get enough love in general. So that all being said, I'm going to talk about Alan Zweibel. Unfortunately, unlike Jim Downey, who I'm so happy got in, he doesn't have name recognition. He's done a lot. I've been reading a lot about him, and I was sent a list of the sketches he's worked on. I mean, Roseanne, Rosanna, Dana, Anna, Letella, Emily Letella. He worked very closely with Gilda, very close with Gilda. He was very, very, very, very essential to those early years.Track 3[17:56]Unfortunately, and I worry about this with Garrett Morris, too. I don't want to get off track, and Lorraine. People don't have long memories always. And especially these days, Joe, you know the kids are jumping on, they're watching sketches, they're watching the Beavis and Butthead sketch, they're not watching the whole show. So it's very different now. And I feel like writers like Alan Zubow have been lost to the anals of time, unfortunately. And maybe I'll be wrong. I hope I am wrong, but I feel like there's other writers ahead of him a bit. However i'd be thrilled if he got in i'd like to see writers get more love but i don't think it's happening so now i'm gonna throw it back over to you.Track 2[18:41]I just want to add on a little bit to that because i think he might have been a cast member in season five because okay yeah everyone started leaving so they just started pulling people from like the writers and like because like i think paul schaefer was a cast member in season five so season five was It was just kind of that running on fumes before everyone left. And then also, I just want to mention, as far as the Gildan Radner connection, I just love this memory, which is her last television appearance, which was on It's a Gary Shandling Show. And I know this isn't Saturday Night Live, but um uh he gary shanley uh developed that show with alan's i or uh zybel and uh after, gildan ran there was um she had a pause where she started to look good uh health-wise and so she showed up on that show and i just wanted to recommend people to look that moment up because it's such a gift from alan and gilda um so i know it's outside saturday night live but uh, But anyway, to segue to my pick, I also picked a writer for the same reason. Again, writers, it would be cool if writers, if you could see their name on the sketch.Track 3[20:04]Right.Track 2[20:04]That would be great. You know, that way, you know, like the only one that I think of is Jack Handy, The Deep Thoughts. You saw his name on that sketch. Right. So that kind of made you familiar. Now, anyway, my pick is Julio Torres, who is more recent. I just don't, he's not like John Mulaney, where he's a recent writer who has standout specials or hosted the show and all this stuff. I'm sure he's a great writer. He's just not well known. I think he's the least known person on the list.Track 3[20:41]I think you're right. He does have that I'm a Stone Actress sketch, which was great. But, yeah, he's not really talked about as much.Track 2[20:49]I mean, I don't want to, I literally don't have anything negative to say about him other than the fact that he's not known enough. And I'm sure people found out, you know, what sketches he wrote. They'd be like, oh, yeah, absolutely. I love that. But at this point, you know, I mean, you know, I just can't see people looking at this list and voting for him. I mean, and I'm not saying anything negative about him. I just don't see him being well known enough.Track 3[21:23]Now, let's reveal our ballots. Do you mind if I go first, Joe?Track 2[21:27]Yes, please.Track 3[21:28]I'm just going to zoom through it. But my 15, and I did use all 15. I know some people don't, but I had a hard time keeping it to 15. I could have gone to 16 or 17. My ballot is... And a guest hire, Sherry O'Terry, Dave Grohl, Vanessa Bayer, Rosie Schuster, and Paula Pell, both writers. Candice Bergen, Rachel Dratch, Dick Ebersole, Herb Sargent, Lorraine Newman, Buck Henry, Jack Handy, Tracy Morgan, and you too. Those are my 15. And let me tell you, I didn't really know who Buck Henry was. I didn't know much about Dick Ebersole, rather. Then I listened to this podcast, and it changed my voting. And I put these two on. This is the first time I've put them on because I think they're essential to the show's history. So thank you, SNL Hall of Fame. Thank you, Thomas. Thank you, JD. Thank you, Matt, for making me a more educated viewer. Now your turn, Joe.Track 2[22:39]All right. So with me, I just went with 10. My brain just works in the DECA system. So shout out to the Romans. um so the list goes paul rudd dick ever saw dave grohl paul lapel lorraine newman kate mckinnon adam samler martin short chris parnell and john malane um i just and to me that would almost be a great show all of himself they were together so that's my time agreed well Well.Track 3[23:10]I'm surprised at like how similar our lists are because I think we have slightly different tastes, but I think we're ready to move on. Beck Bennett is our first season six nominee. And the way this is going to go every episode is one of us is going to be pro and one of us is going to be con. It does not reflect our true feelings, but we're arguing the side we're arguing, and that's how it's going to go. And are we ready to get started? Do you want to start, Joe? You're the con and I'm the pro. What do you think?Track 2[23:50]Well, how about this? we'll go pro just to kind of introduce him and then uh i'll do con.Track 3[23:55]Okay we'll just throw it back and forth how's that sound yes sounds good all right so i am arguing the pro for mr beck bennett eight seasons that alone meets one of my criteria i feel like a great cast member has to have at at least five. Beck has eight. Eight seasons, and he came out of the gate on fire. He brought ideas to the show. He, of course, had a relationship with Kyle Mooney, and they came with sketches. So that's my first pro. Want to give a con, Joe?Track 2[24:37]Yes. Yes. So now, first off, let me just say I agree with every positive thing. However, my assignment is to come up with cons. So I agree with everything that you're saying and everything on the podcast. However, for the con, I feel like he was a part of a big cast.Track 3[25:01]True.Track 2[25:02]And he didn't really pop. He didn't really stand out. So to give an example or demonstration of this, imagine if he came back to host, you know, people wouldn't be saying, oh, I hope he does this sketch, you know, like, or I hope he does this character. There wasn't anything. He did Baby Boss, but that wasn't rememberable. I don't think people are going to be quoting or re-watching that on YouTube. A lot of the Kyle Mooney pre-taped stuff is funny, don't get me wrong, but not rememberable. He didn't you know he just didn't pop and then um he also did a lot of the straight man stuff which is a thankless task like he did a lot of uh game show hosts and you know so i just that's my con he just didn't pop he didn't stand out i i just i can't make a list of uh stuff i would want him to do again if he came back to host so that's my con all.Track 3[26:09]Right so i i just want to add I've got a few more things for the, for the pro. Let's talk about his pre-tapes. I mean, he and Kyle came with the SoCal boys, kind of the clueless boys who were all over the internet at that time. They're probably still all over the internet. And they just nailed it. And it was so funny. I just rewatched a couple of those SoCal boys pre-tapes and they were hilarious. But I just want, I have to mention my, one of my absolute favorite pre-tapes, which is the Leslie Kyle back.Track 3[26:48]Triangle specifically the one with the masquerade with the eyes wide shut for those of you young listeners it's a movie that came out a long time ago watch the sketch watch the pre-tape i i can't even do it justice so funny even colin jost gets into the act it is hilarious i just think beck was one of those in the clutch performers who could come and be the straight man and all the the craziness could bounce off of him against Santa Baby with Gosling and Vanessa Bayer. They're going nuts about Santa, and Beck has to play the straight dad role. Like you said, Joe, always having, often having to be the one that everybody else sort of plays. He's sort of the canvas, and they play off. He's just so perfect at that. And they mentioned so many good examples in the Hall of Fame episode that I don't think I need to do anymore. So that's my wrap up. I think he deserves a shot. And I was very happy I got to be pro because I know, Joe, that you struggled with the cons. But I think you did an excellent job and made some excellent points about why maybe he is not quite Hall of Fame material.Track 3[28:13]All right, Joe, I think it's time for our final, final segment, our hopes for the 50th season. And the theme for this, this week's our first is which two cast members do we want to see more of? All right, I'll start. Let me tell you, I had two, I had two people. One, I didn't change. One, I did. Guess why? Why? Because my buddy Joe and I had a conversation and he made me rethink and I'm like, he's right. I need to go with my gut and I need to say a regular cast member. I was going to do a newer cast member, but instead I'm going with a I believe she's going into her sixth year.Track 3[28:59]She's getting the screen time. But thank you, Mike Murray, on Saturday night or Saturday as an on the Saturday Night Network. Network yeah because mike murray if you haven't listened and i'm assuming if you're listening to this podcast you listen to the hasn't on uh mike murray does a great stats breakdown and he gave me some stats and he's he talks a lot about uh minutes per episode and i don't think i don't think she's getting enough time on screen and he has solidified that for me i'm talking about the the one, the only, the incredible Ego Nwudum. She is my favorite cast member, bar none, hands down.Track 3[29:45]I think she's absolutely hilarious in every sketch she's featured in. She just holds her own so beautifully against the likes of Kenan and Mikey Day and Heidi Gardner. Ego stands tall and proud. She's amazing. I'm really happy she got one of the first reoccurring characters in a long time, Lisa from Temecula, and she delivers. And I'm thrilled that she's got a TV show now, I believe on Peacock. I think it's called The Throwback, but I might be messing up the name. But I'm really, I'm thrilled that she has a show and I want to see her. I hope that doesn't mean she's going to get less screen time i want to see her get more screen time okay joe.Track 2[30:33]Who do you want to see more of again i guess this is a very female themed episode because my first one is my comedy crush uh and by that i mean i love her comedy is sarah sherman uh.Track 2[30:53]So I just love she is so unique, but I'm also glad she could blend in to the cast. Like, I'm glad that she could do both her unique style and, you know, that doesn't alienate her from everyone else. She's able to be in sketches that don't work, you know, that aren't about her unique sense of humor. She is so she has such a unique identity. She just does goes with her gut and just and then on top of that. And then the second point is I want to see her on Weekend Update. She did Sarah's News, I believe was the segment. But most importantly, and I do mean this, which is important to me. I want to see her roasting Colin Jost because she is aside from those swap joke swaps that he does with Michael J. I love seeing Colin Joe's get roasted by Sarah she just does it in this goes for the jugular just really you know she did one where she went backstage in his dressing room and there was like yeah this is where he keeps the interns in the cage and stuff like that and she, chef's kiss I mean I just love her unique sense into humor and I love seeing her roast Colin Jost. So yes, that's my first pick. And now yours.Track 3[32:19]My second is a little newer and he just nailed it this past season. I think he's getting more time, but again, thank you Mike Murray. His screen time is not where it needs to be. His Tim Scott is one of my favorite political impressions currently. Of course, I'm talking about the fabulous Devin Walker. I think Devin is fantastic. I love Marcelo Hernandez, don't get me wrong, but he seems to be the newbie getting the most love, and I'd like to see the love spread a little evener for Longfellow as well, but really for Devin. I think this is Devin's season to shine. I hope so. I hope they give him more impressions. I hope they put him on update. Let him have Devin's take, kind of like they did with Longfellow and let him give his takes on certain cultural happenings in the zeitgeist. Yeah, I want more Devin Walker this season. A lot more than last season.Track 2[33:16]So my second pick is Michael Longfellow. It's just real... Yes. It's just real simple. I just look at that guy and I know this is kind of a part of the con that I said about Beck Bennett, but he has great deadpan.Track 3[33:34]Yes.Track 2[33:34]So and that is really one of the thankless tasks of a cast member is looking at the other ones, looking at the character and just, you know, acting, you know, and just having a facial expression that says you're weird and stuff like that.Track 3[33:51]Yes.Track 2[33:52]You know and then um how about this is what came to me i can't believe it was an snl cast member or or anything but it keaton has this thing where he just goes no no and michael longfellow just has that in his face where he's able to do that without saying anything like you're weird you're just he's got it in his eyes it reminds me of like dave foley from news radio um he just he's He's able to look at the joke and not say anything. And to me, it's more important to act instead of saying, you know, like, you know, brevity is the soul of wit. So just to be and I just like seeing that from him. So that's what I'm hoping to see more of from him.Track 3[34:33]OK, so I think the moral of our episode today is we want more women getting involved and we want the newbies getting some love because both Devin and Michael came in. And Marcelo seems to be getting all of the love, which he's super talented. But like I said, I'd like to see them spreading it out a little more. Okay. I cannot believe that this is the end already, Joe. This is so much fun. You are so much fun to talk to because you're as geeky, passionate about SNL as I am. And so thank you.Track 2[35:10]Yes. And I believe you have excellent taste. No, no, you're great. You know, you have mountains and mountains of information and passion. So, yeah, this is great. You know, I hope to be doing this every week. We will be doing this every week right here at the Butter Cooler.Track 3[35:26]We're throwing our cups away until next week when they'll be, when Thomas will be joined by another great guest on the SNL Hall of Fame. Well, they'll be talking about the one and only, and we talked about her today, right, Joe?Track 2[35:41]Yes, we did.Track 3[35:41]The fabulous sherry o terry very.Track 2[35:47]Energetic a mountain yeah we got a lot to get into on.Track 3[35:50]Yeah looking forward to it but for now leaving the water cooler till next time throwing out the cup.0:00 / 36:410.5x0.75x1.0x1.25x1.5x1.75x2xSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/snlhof/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This week on the SNL Hall of Fame podcast we welcome back to the show, Kirstin Rajala to discuss and build a case for Beck Bennett.Transcript: Track 2:[0:42] Thank you so much, Doug DeNance. It is a thrill to be back here in the SNL Hall of Fame, bringing to you the SNL Hall of Fame podcast. Once again, we're back for season six. We really hope you enjoyed the draft episode. Now, why don't you come inside? You might notice I'm looking at your feet. Wipe them. Know what I'm saying? So there's that. The SNL Hall of Fame podcast is a weekly affair fair where each episode we take a deep dive into the career of a former cast member, host, musical guest, or writer and add them to the ballot for your consideration.Track 2:[1:20] Once the nominees have been announced, we turn to you, the listener, to vote for the most deserving and help determine who will be enshrined for perpetuity in the hall. And that's how we play the game. It's just that simple. I am so pumped to be working with Matt and Thomas again for another season. We've got a banger of a year. We've got some fantastic, fantastic nominees and some really amazing special guests this season to nominate those nominees and build the case for them. We're also doing something a little different this year. We've got a new sister show that will be released on Thursdays or Fridays. I'm still flirting with that. If you have a preference, whether it's Thursdays or Fridays, send me an email, the SNL hall of fame at gmail.com. That's right. It's a new email address because it's a new year. It's a new season and we need a new email address. So there's that. Now, I will say that the SNL Water Cooler will be a visitation, a revisitation of the week's episode, and it'll also take a look at the episode of SNL, whether or not there are Hall-worthy performances or Hall-of-Shame-worthy performances that we might analyze down the road when we nominate so-and-so.Track 2:[2:47] So there's that. What do you say we wander down the hall and talk to our good friend Matt Ardill? I am going to pivot and make my way down the corridor here. Ah, there he is, leaning against the wall like a slug. Hey, if you got time to lean, you got time to clean, my boy.Track 3:[3:06] Matt, you've been around for four seasons, five seasons at this point. This is the beginning of your fifth season. How are you doing, man? Good, good. I'm happy to be here. And how about you, J.D.? I am pretty much good. I was camping, and I've been eaten alive. My ankles are all itchy, but other than that, I cannot complain. Yeah, but you got some fresh air, got out of the city, so that's always good. That's right.Track 3:[3:33] So what do you got for us this week? Today, I have Beck Bennett. Nice. Five foot eight, born on the best day of the year in Willamette, Illinois. Shares a birthday with luminaries such as Julie Andrews, Jimmy Carter, and myself. Hey. October 1st, 1984, which makes me feel all the more useless because he's 10 years my junior and has achieved so much more than I have. Oh, stop. Stop. Yeah, no, but he grew up a theater kid performing in children's theater at the Children's Theater of Winnetka. And in high school, played Jean Valjean at the New Tierra High School performance of Les Miserables. Yeah. So, now, he did go on to attend University of Southern California and the USC School of Dramatic Arts. Where he met and formed the sketch troupe Good Neighbor with Kyle Mooney, Nick Rutherford, and Dave McCary, all of whom went on to work at SNL.Track 3:[4:39] Now, after joining Good Neighbor, they created a series of sketch comedy shorts on YouTube which uh kind of make the parodies that they did later on in snl all the funnier um but this led to a series of ads where he's the at&t guy uh that uh had him interviewing children in a mock political talk show that's right yeah yeah uh and now that went on to become 84 acting credits seven writing credits eight producing credits four soundtrack credits including possibly the only person who can adequately capture the wonder that is launchpad mcquack on the ducktales reboot um now if anybody could do a live action ducktales that would be him i would love to see uh actually a darkwing duck reboot and bring back beck as launchpad but uh not you can only dream yeah yeah well you know disney plus is going to need to mine that content eventually um but yeah so he went on to marry jesse hodges another actor and they have a child together born march of 2022.Track 3:[6:03] Well, I definitely miss him on SNL. Yeah. He was somebody that became, like really grew into his role, I felt. And I really enjoyed him. And I also enjoy our friend Thomas Senna, who is in the conversation room with Kirsten Rajula right now, getting ready to teach us more about Beck Bennett. Matt, are you ready for that? I am looking forward to it. Well, let's get right to it.Track 4:[7:00] Alright, JD, Matt, thank you so much. Hey guys, welcome to another season of the SNL Hall of Fame podcast. I am joined today by, like, we had to kick off the season of discussions with just, like, an all-timer guest. So we're talking about all-timer nominees. Every week we talk about all-timer, you know, people from SNL history.Track 4:[7:25] I had to kick it off this week with an all-timer guest. So joining me for the first discussion of Season 6 for our first nominee is the one, the only, the lovely world traveler, Kristen Rahula. How's it going, Kirsten? It's great. What an intro. Thank you very much. And I didn't know this was the first. Oh my gosh. It's lovely to see your face and hear your voice. Yes, I've been traveling, and yes, I'm excited to be talking about SNL once again with some of my favorite people, the other super fans. And this episode is going to be great because we are talking about someone truly, truly deserving and who is so much fun to talk about because they are in everything. Yeah, right. Yeah, exactly. Like ubiquitous right there with, of course, Beck Bennett, who's our nominee to kick off season six of the SNL Hall of Fame. Kirsten, so I like to do the plugs at the top of the discussion, the way this is formatted. So do you have anything? What's going on in Kirsten's world lately? Well, for people in the Toronto area, my bestie and I do an event series, and it's intergenerational storytelling, female voices. So if you're in the Toronto area, it's generationwomen.ca. Please come and listen to women of all ages tell beautiful stories. It's a really fun event, and we would love the support.Track 4:[8:54] Yes, that sounds awesome. Yeah, go check that out. Also, listen to Kirsten. You're probably going to be a panelist, I assume, for Saturday Night Network's coverage on Season 50? Heck yeah. Yeah, check us out on the Saturday Night Network, where we also cover all things SNL with an even larger group of superfans. That is also a fun one, so check that out. They have shows multiple times throughout the week. Yeah, yeah. I love hearing Kirsten pop up, whether it's a hot take show or the roundtables. Yeah, I love hearing Kirsten pop up. So check her out on the Saturday Night Network. But today we were chatting about our first nominee for season six. That's the one, the only Mr. Beck Bennett. So a little bit of the CliffsNotes here before we kind of get a dig into Beck's SNL time. When he was a freshman in college, he met Kyle Mooney. They started doing sketch and improv together. It was at USC. They were part of Good Neighbor, along with Nick Rutherford and Dave McCary, Mr. Emma Stone himself, Dave McCary. Beck was in a run of AT&T commercials in which he interviewed children. Do you remember these, Kirsten?Track 4:[10:13] No, because I'm in Canada. I was wondering. That's why I asked. I don't know what kind of TV y'all get up there. They don't have AT&T, so yeah, I wouldn't have seen it. But I'm going to look them up. Okay, yeah, so it was a series of commercials. He sat there. It was like a circle of children. He would ask them different questions, I think pertaining to phone service or something like that. So that's where I knew Beck. So when he got on SNL, I was like, oh, there's that guy from the phone commercials. That's crazy. He does sketch comedy. Okay, let's see what this is about. out uh so yeah yeah you need to go youtube some of those at&t commercials and you'll see beck put on his his commanding voice like like like he liked to do on the show um so he was making a nice career for himself when he got the call so september of 2013 he began his snl tenure along with his good neighbor cohorts along with kyle mooney debuted uh right then too so kirsten like what were any initial impressions you may have had uh of beck bennett when he first kind of got on your radar. What'd you think of him?Track 4:[11:17] He's one of those people, it's a little hard to separate all of the characters he plays with who I imagine he is in real life. I picture him as the kind of failure-to-launch jock at your high school read. But I know he's probably not. He's wonderful, I'm sure, and a very smart, smart man, because clearly someone has got to be intelligent to pull off the kind of nuance and range that he does. But it's fun to think of him as that man-child that he always was, bit of a douche, often befuddled, making the wrong choices. Like you love him but you're like shaking your head so he at the beginning kind of very quickly started to establish himself as like fitting into those slots you saw him play a dumb kind of doofus dad typical middle-aged white guy and he did all of those things with enthusiasm so.Track 4:[12:12] While some people start off kind of awkward and they're trying to tentatively find their way at SNL I wonder if it's because he had Kyle with him yeah that they really jumped into it and their style of comedy pretty easily and quickly yeah they brought in a lot of good like their good neighbor stuff like those SoCal's like inside SoCal was a good neighbor thing uh you're right like he just played this doofus what I like to call in the comedy realm confidently dumb um yes i think that's like was beck's you know that was his forte in a lot of ways just such a confidently dumb guy like stick into his guns but it's like it's just the wrong way to go and yeah so good at that um delving into his highlights like is there a certain role over his eight seasons that you think he kind of did settle into oh gosh yes again the confidently dumb. Like, where his colleagues, like other folks on the show, would go between, you know, playing a bit of a dumb-dumb, but then also.Track 4:[13:22] You know, they could play like a rocket scientist. He was typically, which is funny because I just said he has range and I still think he does, but he typically was in the kind of befuddled, even like a Mitch McConnell, he was kind of blubbering. Right. And so he, yes, he always nailed that. I'm the last one who gets the joke, but I'm going to laugh as confidently as the person who told it. Yeah. He brought that spirit to so many things. It, even when it was him doing the SoCal stuff or, you know, kind of playing teenage or child roles with Kyle, always kind of a bit of a doofus. Yeah, yeah. So he was that he also was able to play like, sometimes kind of more of a straight dad kind of character.Track 4:[14:10] Usually when he played a dad, it was like from some sort of angle, like a downtrodden dad or a dumb dad or something like that. But he, man, he settled so nicely in his eight seasons. Indispensable, in my opinion, toward the end there, I think. Absolutely. Like a real cornerstone of the cast. And a combination of physical comedy, absurdity, but then also subtlety. Like there were really small choices that he made that...Track 4:[14:43] Or what brought those kind of doofus characters to like the way he'd hold his face or kind of you know the intonation certainly kyle was the you know crown wear of intonation and flat affect but he was right there with him so a lot of a lot of subtle things that they did so it's funny because at one point he's playing you know office boss baby and he's you know flinging his limbs around but then he can also just with one kind of slack jaw do something completely different right right Right. Yeah, that office boss, I want to kind of start getting into his actual work. And that baby boss, he debuted that in his first season. I think he might have auditioned with that, it seems like. But it was Mr. Patterson, baby boss. Like, was it the physicality of Beck? Does it totally shine through instantly, Kirsten? A hundred percent. Yeah, he ended up doing that four different times. Sometimes, the creepiest one was with Cameron Diaz because they were actually talking about relations and her giving him a bath in the kitchen sink and that they were going to try and make a baby or they were pregnant. It got a little awkward there. I think they were pregnant. Yeah, a little awkward. Well, I'm not worried. You're going to be a great mother. Come here, you.Track 4:[16:06] You. Could we maybe just do a little toast here? Congratulations. A toast. Oh, look at that. A lemon. Been meaning to try one of these. Cheers. Mm, it's good, it's tart. But I like that they kind of put him back into other situations, you know, in the office and, He nailed it. Anyone who has spent a time around a toddler, baby or toddler, instantly is taken back to the way that they fumble with objects, the way they are amazed by holding something up in front of their face, distracted.Track 4:[16:53] The way they move around, slide downstairs. There is like it's such a studied performance which sounds hilarious to say but if you know you know he nailed that baby he nailed that damn baby character so well and it was such an interesting yeah yeah he's trying to give high fives oh my god the keys to distract him trying the lemon like there are so many little moments and it's such a weird concept but it worked and you know it did I did feel at times if they had, you know, they had like a Josh Hutcherson and they had Cameron Diaz and people that they're not always building a sketch around.Track 4:[17:31] Picking on Josh a bit, but that he would, you know, be the character of and they kind of put those other folks in reaction to him was a great sketch for that to happen. And if you needed to support that type of host. Yeah he always he he had that great timing and he knew how to deliver and he almost played against himself uh as you alluded to where where he would uh as the boss he would speak very like boss like like try to be commanding and he would say things that were commanding but then he would do and say things one second later of course that were baby like so beck got that he was able to shift back and forth between like oh we're so we're so proud we're going to be uh we're expecting we're going be raising a family and then he sees a lemon and it's like oh i've always wanted to try one of these and then let's appreciate how tough it would be like to the duality of those two things.Track 4:[18:26] Acting like a baby, but sounding like a CEO. Yeah. That's just weird and wild. And I don't know that we all are appreciating how darn tough that would be. Yeah, yeah, definitely. I think this was probably the first character, certainly first recurring character that got attention for sure. You could go check out, that's early Beck in like season 39 and on. So that was like the baby boss. um what else uh with Beck kind of like shows what what what we started the show off of in terms of like his role and everything you know what I do notice is a lot of my favorite things about him, were pre-tapes which says nothing negative about any of his non-pre-tapes but I noticed that a lot of things I loved were pre-tapes and I mean this is the era of Vine like it's the era of people documenting things in video format. And I think him and Kyle having come up on kind of written, taped format, like SoCal and all these things, that really was where they were strong. One particular character that is also with Kyle were those sitcom parodies. We saw those in season 39, was a cut actually, with the Andrew Garfield one, Wings. And then we had season 40, We had Bad Boys with Chris Pratt. And then in season 43, we brought it back when it was Beers with Larry David.Track 4:[19:55] These sketches, they appeal to a certain type of person who can appreciate these. I'm one of them. Did you get Full House up in Canada? Yes. Okay, I was just checking. Full House, like a TV show? Yes, yes. You said you never saw it back in AT&T, so I had to check. Well, we just don't have AT&T. Fair. Yes. These sitcom parodies, everything about them, yes, much like those interstitials, like they've just cut to a castle, they'd cut to B-roll of Loch Ness Monster, like the most random silly things, the laugh track, the clap track, like all of these things, even how they would say, let's, let's, I need to talk to you privately. And they'd move one step up to the right. Everything had a moral or a lesson. It was very corny. They were pretty amazing.Track 4:[20:57] What is that sound, and who do I have to pay to make it stop? I'm practicing my clarinet for when my cousin CJ gets here. Oh, yeah. Think he'll be able to take care of our fish when we go on our bike ride tomorrow? I hope so. CJ loves fish. Great. In the meantime, do you mind taking that thing outside? Hey. Hey. Those, I feel like, are something that perhaps they brought to the show that they had tested and played with prior to as an idea. And we saw it a few times. I would take 10 more, by the way. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, the Bears one with Larry David got oddly dark. So that was, yeah, that was really funny. I rewatched the Chris Pratt one, the Bad Boys one as well. All those like Full House, Family Matters kind of tropes, like just using, so it's one of those things where like, So you would watch Full House, right? And then they would do like, it was almost like a three-minute skit. And it would involve like Michelle or somebody sitting at the dining room table just eating a cupcake. And the cupcake was going to be like a parable for a lesson that they were going to serve you in like that three minutes. And it made no sense to the story before or after.Track 4:[22:15] They just nailed it so hard. Like you can tell, I think they probably did, you know, as a comedy team. Before they got to SNL, they'd been working together for six years. So you can tell that that was built up over six years. As somebody who spent a lot of time in Southern California, I'm from New Mexico, but I've spent a lot of time in SoCal. Those inside SoCals were like spot on. Like the intonations with Beck and Kyle and even Jonah Hill when he would come on. Like they just played those SoCal guys perfectly. Ever encountered a SoCal guy like that? I'm familiar with the archetype. Yes. And you're right. They're so studied. They're so studied. And that's probably why we love them as a pair and probably why they get along so well as a comedy duo and friends is that they are – there's so much discipline and rigor to what they do. Like, again, it comes off as really goofy and silly and fun, but they've clearly done their homework. Tonight we're coming to you live from Keith's dad's condo where he's having a nice little kickback.Track 4:[23:19] All right, so for our top story for tonight is Amanda Byrne's little sister Sarah is moving back home, and I heard she still looks good. I'd go with her for sure. Yeah, me too. Or if I get the chance to. Right. All right, so in other news, me, Andy, Pierce, and Scott, we want to start our own clothing line. All right, so now it's time for Meet the Boys. Let's go, yo! Meet the Boys, the boys, meet the boys. The wardrobe, the script.Track 4:[23:47] Their hair their wigs like everything and then you have someone like larry david and then jonah hill as you mentioned in like other you know great comedic talents who clearly appreciate what's happening and want to be a part of it yeah i know when they went to usc i'm.Track 4:[24:03] Sure they came across guys like that and they're like oh yeah this is fodder we got we're we're characters off these guys yep 100 yeah those inside socal again they they gave they kind of snl did the right thing with kyle and beck like they gave them their playground initially immediately from season one and dave directed a lot of those so those he saw the good neighbor influence uh immediately uh in season 39 um they were a package deal yeah yeah they were but i feel like too like it started off that way but i feel like beck really started carving out his niche like at a certain point i forgot that they were a package deal initially like i always knew them like beck and kyle like of course but at a certain point Beck kind of became his own man to me big time he had a broader appeal like Kyle was almost so good at awkward that it probably or possibly prevented him from playing the everyman because he was you know physically he looked at times a bit nerdier he really leaned into it he was letting his hair grow and he had glasses and stuff where Beck Beck physically could be more like your middle-aged dad in the minivan so that potentially made a bit of a difference yeah uh just the.Track 4:[25:19] Amount of roles that he could play i always.Track 4:[25:22] Thought of them as a pair but then realized how close they were after the fact.Track 4:[25:28] So i didn't know them from good neighbor that is all stuff that i discovered after um and even going back to watch videos like even when they sit together on the couch for interviews they're like 12 year old boy best friends.Track 4:[25:41] Like they're all like climbing on each other and pretzeled. And, you know, there's a closeness and a comfort that is really quite lovely. Yeah. And that's a good point about Beck being the one of the two to have more broad appeal. And then he started, I mean, it was fourth season. They started giving him a lot of really important political impressions, too. I mean, they gave him Vladimir Putin. Now, do I think your new president is perfect? Perhaps not, but don't worry. I'll get him there.Track 4:[26:13] Donald, let's talk his friends. You're not off to a great start, man. I thought you'd be better at this. However, I'm glad to see so many people showed up to your inauguration. Oh, wait. That's the women's march. Here is inauguration. Vladimir Putin's such a stone-faced person in real life. Beck had to find the goofiness. That was an out-and-out caricature, which I think was hilarious that Beck just found something, a kernel of a caricature with Putin. Takes his shirt off, wears the gold necklace, rides in on a horse. And he did that nine times. And to me, they were all great. I always loved seeing Beck pop up as Putin. He would kind of have that, like, swaying. Or how did he move as Putin? Just moving his shoulders? Like, try to, yeah, just something about. off people yeah and he would always talk about that like of course i poisoned him what do you mean like yeah yeah but just to physics you have to find something like some sort of kernel from such a stone-faced person like that so so i really appreciated that and that goes to show that that you don't have to look like the person or sound like the person or so to find an angle on an impression right yes i agree now sometimes looking like a mike lindell or mitch mcconnell.Track 4:[27:40] Also helps but he achieved both in those two because he not only was able to achieve somewhat a similar look but captured their ridiculousness you know mike lindell's manicness yeah and mitch Mitch McConnell's like blubbering, I can't even, how do you, he's just blubbering, no chin goof.Track 4:[28:04] And he captured them both in look, but also in impression very well. He did a lot of impressions. If you look on his page, there are a lot. Did he nail all of them? No, but he always felt like he was game. They felt, I think SNL felt that he's going to find that thread and pull it, as you say. So he didn't always need to look like the person because he was going to find something thing to bring it to life yeah it was like steady-handed commitment too like you gotta be committed to to just sit there for a cold open as putin behind a desk and with your shirt off showing your chest hair and showing beck would have some odd physicality where he almost like had bear-like qualities and you didn't always see that uh in him until until he had wore a tight shirt or something and I'm like this guy is kind of like filled out barrel-chested barrel-chested yeah yeah so you have to have commitment to to show on camera that your barrel-chested self I guess yep yep you know for millions of people yeah big deal he also was willing to look the fool.Track 4:[29:12] And there are several people that do that, but he took it to, like, a real potty level.Track 4:[29:21] One of my favorite sketches is undercover office potty. You need to go to the bathroom, but you have a lot of work to do, and it's all the way down the hall. Yep. We've all been there before. Why don't you check your lamp? Huh? Check your lamp. Whoa. Go ahead. head. Do your business. What do you mean? Use it as a toilet. Oh, now I get it. Introducing the undercover office potty. The only toilet that looks like a lamp. So you can go whenever you want and no one has to know. Just open it up and go to town. It'll be our little secret. Thanks undercover office potty. I did good. This is season 43. It was another pre-tape. It's so silly, but it checks the boxes on all of the things that we've just talked about. He's working, he's, you know, your average generic middle management position in an office surrounded by bland cubicles, and he's got to get the report done. And the premise of this is that he's so busy, wouldn't it be great if he didn't have to walk all the way down the hall to the washroom and could just make use of portable toilets disguised as office components, like your plant holder. Or it becomes even crazier and they are comically oversized.Track 4:[30:49] You know, staplers and such. And clearly the room starts to smell and people start to notice, but he's just so committed to it. And it's a great script, a great, great script.Track 4:[31:04] And just like almost with a straight face, like selling this beyond ridiculous premise. Yeah. That's some of my favorite. And it's lamps, by the way, it's lamps. I knew what you meant. Yeah, you knew what I meant. but yes all of a sudden he's surrounded with all sorts of lamps and the the line like well it wasn't me i used the bathroom all the way down the hall and he just his you know again commitment to you know dumb like as you say confidently dumb so stupid of course people are going to notice but he is owning it until the last possible minute when someone starts actually looking at them yeah absolutely season 43 uh episode 16 you can find undercover office his potty go check that out that was a yeah that's a classic beck one um we had talked about, him playing dads and i love like he would tap into different archetypes of the dad and one of them that i loved um that i think was underappreciated i think i think it just sort of some people didn't get it i noticed like with some online reviews i go to one snl a day which great people, they helped me a lot with just looking at their website and research. But the person who covered Boop It on one SNL day, no offense to them, they clearly didn't get the sketch.Track 4:[32:28] And to me, this is a perfect archetype, Kirsten, of like, oh, I'm going to do this. Downtrodden recently divorced dad that's like at at his rock bottom through the form of a child's an ad for a child's toy but don't get one wrong point it maybe next time jenna.Track 4:[32:53] See who can boop it best and be the boop it boss my turn jenna just went i was after her i think I think it's Tyler's turn, Dad. Tyler, your mom just called. She wants you to go home. She wants you at home. She does? Yeah, bye. See ya.Track 4:[33:07] There's the door, bud. Bye, Tyler. Now that I can actually concentrate, I can do it. Concentration's the name of the game. Listen, is anyone truly equipped to handle young children? No, there's no manual. You get them and you figure it out. I mean, I remember with my son and his friends making gingerbread houses and wanting to just scooch them out of the way and do it better myself. So I think we can all feel kind of close to the notion here, which is let me do it. I can't suffer watching you try to do it. And this is taken to comically new heights with this bop it send off, boop it, which if anyone's ever played it or not, it's a gadget with a variety of buttons on it and you have to hit them as quickly as they illuminate or trigger. I forgot that that was a real thing now that you mentioned it.Track 4:[34:23] With, you know, I think he's drinking in the sketch, too, isn't he? He's like really going off the rails. I love how he just kind of takes a little sip and then he starts playing the game again. Like he has this scotch or something. Yeah. He's rude to the kids. He's like sending them out. All of a sudden, all parenting is out the window. The desperation there. Yeah. Again, you know, as we said, he can play part douche, part, you know, fail or thrive, part man-child. Like all of these things. things there is the alchemy of it represented in you know a dad type yeah he's almost he's trying to impress his kids because he probably feels like his kids look at him as this loser so he found something he's like i could impress my kids by doing this and then he gets addicted because you're right like that's the only thing that he had one of my favorites is when his wife played by heidi gardner picks them up and then she's kind of like have they eaten and then he pauses And she's like, and then he stops and he's like, hold on, baby, let's try to let's let's try to work it out. And she's like, oh, like, hey, like, I almost feel sorry for him in a way like I'm sure he's this loser. And she's that has every right not to be with him. But Beck makes him almost like somewhat sympathetic in a way, but you still get that, like. There's a reason why he's divorced. That's, listen, there are people that stay in those relationships and that's why. Right? Yeah.Track 4:[35:47] Oh my gosh. I think a spiritual successor to that was from the following season with that December to Remember fake ad. Yeah, I loved it. And I think this one was actually well-received because we know those commercials. We know everything. thing so I think this one is actually like a well-received fan favorite like yeah Kirsten did you like this one when you saw it I love it and have we not all at some point looked at the screen during a commercial like this and thought that's not how real life happens yeah if my partner went out and bought an expensive car on their own and surprised me with it which is in every romance novel and oh every hallmark like this is a thing right go get an oversized car yes exactly.Track 4:[36:39] They finally someone has said that's not real life and not only is that the case they then really go into the sub-basement of it's not real life and they expose that he hasn't worked the mom is having affairs the neighbor lent him money the neighbor is probably one of the people having the affairs and so then it blows everything up and we get real, real life.Track 4:[37:25] Your father hasn't worked since last March. What? Yeah, COVID has hit a lot of people hard, and I'm no exception. Nathan, you got fired in March 2019. COVID had nothing to do with it. He probably has a weird attraction to his son's girlfriend. And, you know, it's still got the Christmas or holiday sparkle on it, like, you know, every car commercial we've seen at the holidays, where really are you going to buy a car and try and surprise your partner? That is just not fiscally responsible. responsible yeah it's not being a good partner it was very much it's got to have just been made up by car companies like i don't know anyone that really does that it doesn't happen no it doesn't happen unless you're like a jenner right or a celebrity and then you have multiple cars and who cares but that's not real life yeah yeah and yeah i just love how like just yeah confidently stupid and like he's like no it's okay because of the aper do you mean apr like yeah just like And then like he even looks at his son and I love it. Timothy Chalamet was his son. He looks at his son's like, looks like your old man's busted. And he kind of gave this look like, uh, like almost like a childish sort of. Oh, I love it. Cause he, yeah, he goes like, guess your old man got busted. Like, and he makes the credits to make a face like whatever.Track 4:[38:38] Brilliant. Brilliant. It's probably not the first time that he like surprised her with something dumb. Exactly. He thinks he's going to win. Yeah. That's that confidently dumb. He thinks this is going to save everything. I'm not working, whatever, but guess what? We're going to drive in style. She's going to be so happy. And he's, it's just, he's not making good choices once again. Yeah. To be fair in his defense, if I thought that that Lexus only costs $4,000, I would pounce on it too and surprise my wife. Uh, again, dumb, but yeah. Yeah. It's not that much, babe. That, yeah. Cause that's how much cars cost. Yeah. Oh boy. Oh boy. Again, this is going back to high school reunion. You know, you think you've, you've won and you've got the, the catch of the year and it's, he's a bit of a loser. Yeah. Bit of a loser. Yeah, absolutely. Poor Heidi's relationship. Look at her having to sleep with old Mikey Day neighbor.Track 4:[39:32] Yeah what a great sketch i'm gonna pick up on another kyle mooney partnership because why not and that would be the brothers here's some real physical comedy now they're playing tweens teens, uh seems like 11 would be the age yeah i don't know why i honed in on that yeah because they're They're still self-conscious enough to walk around without pants, probably. So they set up, and they've done a few of these. The setup is, you know, where we see a living room, we've got the host as the dad figure, Cecily as the mom, they're entertaining some guests, and they invite their two young sons downstairs to meet the guests. Beck and Kyle come on down wearing t-shirts and tighty-whities, and they're wrestling sling their way down the stairs, mass chaos, pictures are falling off the wall, and they are not listening. They're clearly in their tussle. And so the dad figure, it was both one time Liv Schreiber, if I'm saying that right, and James McAvoy, who plays a new dad, which they make some fun jokes about, and he sprays them inside with a water hose to calm them down.Track 4:[40:47] And they are being the most obnoxious, competitive... Brother rivalry duo possible how's god into y'all tonight it's his fault he's a loser oh i'm a loser well you're an accident dad tell him no.Track 4:[41:05] Wait what oh my god jared don't do this tell him dad no what's he what's he talking about Oh, God. Okay. Yes, Spence. Initially, we weren't planning on having a second. Why are you telling him this?Track 4:[41:30] The guests are appalled and want to leave. The parents are not phased at all. And it's hilarious because we see them get blasted in the face and body with this water sprayer. That's indoors.Track 4:[41:44] Indoors. which they i think um ad makes a comment about yeah and then in the second one they actually bring out the leaf blower and there's some hilarious physical comedy as their faces are being you know blown away by this leaf blower and you know the hey look at the dance look at the dance like this you know if you have a sibling or clearly you've are probably familiar with this anyways that kind of competitive spirit oh yeah where they're trying to one-up each other um is on full display here it's really funny yeah it's spot on if you've ever been around two brothers around the same age let's say nine and eleven or something like that like this is so spot on oddly competitive you're right like when the one with leah schreiber like yeah they were like made up one of them made up a dance like beck's character made up a dance and then kyle's like no that's my dance and then they start fighting like this is the dumbest thing who cares it's like a little but that's how little kids are is this the dance yeah exactly but i've seen little kids in my life around the same age fight like that and you're just sitting there like god the guy this does this does not matter like why are you guys like this yeah it's just little boys this is hyper little boys like it's it's it's perfect you know if we look at a theme here, they really are creating moments out of very everyday scenarios.Track 4:[43:09] You know, where you have someone like a Will Forte who does really absurd stuff, really absurd, or a Bill Hader and all his beautiful character work.Track 4:[43:21] These, you know, Beck and, you know, Kyle as well, but they really excel at the everyday life situation and scenario and dissecting that and finding the funny in it. Yeah, well, as you put it earlier, it feels studied. All these everyday characters feel so studied. It almost feels like Beck and Kyle, I know they met when they were 18, 19, but it almost feels like Beck and Kyle knew each other when they were both like 11 years old and they actually behaved like this. That's how lived in it feels. Absolutely. I don't know, because Weekend Update, I feel, was that when Beck actually went on Weekend Update as a character, which he wasn't like, I don't think he made his bones on Weekend Update, but I think there are some Weekend Update things that he did that I liked. Have you ever met somebody, Kirsten, who's like, sees the world differently? I just see things a little differently.Track 4:[44:22] Beck playing Jules was perfect to me, another perfect archetype that he nailed. Yeah, I think it's because he plays subtlety so well, it doesn't lend well to Weekend Update. So when he does find a character that is bigger and bolder than that, like our friend Jules, who I could see this character being played by like a Fred Armisen also, then he nails it. It was a little bit too like his theater student, right, where playing in this kind of word salad lingo land where they're saying a lot of nothing. You know, like Jules was asked about economics at some point. He doesn't have an answer to that. Come on.Track 4:[45:09] He's not a free-thinking economist. No, he was frustrating. He's one of those people where you wonder, how do you pay your rent? Yeah. He said that his – at one point he said that his dad invented OxyContin. Oh, God. So I think he kind of slipped that in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's free to explore the ideas that everybody else is afraid to. But we know somebody like that. I live an hour from Santa Fe, New Mexico and in Santa Fe. That's the archetype There's so many people who are just like I'm a free thinker and I'm a new age kind of you know And they have to tell you that and they have to tell you that just tell me are you gonna watch like the red carpet? Oh, I'll watch and scoff Colin fool. Yes. They all ask who are you wearing? What I want to know is who are you being? I Want to tell every actress I see take your clothes off I want to see what's underneath. Yeah, no, you can't do that, man. That's really bad. Really bad. Society wants to paint them like little dolls, but they should be like the dolls I had as a child, whittled from driftwood with very realistic genitalia.Track 4:[46:23] That feels regional, yes, because I can't say that I know too many people like that or that we have too many parts of Canada like that. But as you describe that vibe down in in those areas i can see them being there for sure it feels it also feels kind of california but it feels like those folks have a lot of etsy stores yeah yeah no you're 100 right selling their dream catchers yeah for sure for sure um yeah so so so i think uh you're right like maybe his style wasn't necessarily like totally i'm just gonna going to shine every week on weekend update like i think a heidi probably shines on update more ego does bobby moynihan probably did a little bit uh more shining on update but yeah something like jules i think if you give him the room to breathe a little bit i think i think uh yeah that was that was his highlight to me uh from weekend from weekend update for sure yeah uh is there anything else that popped out to you well well fun this was fun i gotta say like beck underappreciated and and sometimes i don't know if i overuse but it's just like somebody like him i really think because he was on the cast with kate kate sesley 80 he was on the cast with a lot of like big characters on the cat like but i think beck was always just that almost steady presence so it was It was fun to revisit him and be like, wow, he actually did a lot.Track 4:[47:52] He's in so much that I would have needed a lot more time to rewatch. I wouldn't have to just watch whole episodes to catch everything he's in, for sure. There is one more that I... Re-watch. And that's called First Impression. Another pre-tape, Jason Momoa, season 44.Track 4:[48:17] Melissa Villasenor is his girlfriend, and she's going to introduce Beck, her boyfriend, to her parents who are coming to their house for the first time. So we've got Jason Momoa and Heidi as the mom, and he's feeling very nervous. He's got a new shirt on. As she opens the door and turns around to make the intro, he's not there. And we don't understand why until we realize that he's hiding and he uses a really funny child's voice. That's weird. He was here just a second ago. Well, we can't wait to meet him. Michael! Honey! I bet you can't find me! What? Was that him? What did he say? Come find me! I'm hiding! Michael, stop it. Okay, come out here and meet my parents. Where am I? Honey, what's going on? I think he's just nervous. He really wants to impress you. Why would that impress us? Because he hides a lot. No, he's never done this before. Bet you can't find me. Oh, I bet I can.Track 4:[49:23] This ignites something in Jason Momoa's dad character who takes that as a real challenge, and he starts running throughout the house following the sound of Beck's voice in this really silly, hee hee hee, come find me, I'm hiding. I mean, Melissa's confused, Heidi's confused. Dad is right into this, to the point where he's punching through walls and ripping things apart. As it turns out, Beck has taken off his shirt, greased up his upper body, and has tried to jam himself behind the TV entertainment. Shelf and he is stuck so they have to help him yeah but it ends in a really fun way because, he says something very heartfelt about the lengths he's gone to to try to impress the parents which strikes a chord with momoa and they end up you know basically thinking this is all wonderful but it was so strange again taking a very simple moment meeting the parents, and taking it to a completely bizarre place.Track 4:[50:31] I love it. I can just hear his voice in my head. The hee hee, come find me. Like a little kid or a little elf-like. Like an elf, yes. Not even a kid, you're right. It's like a little elf-like being. Yes. Yeah, no, no, that was perfect. Like, yeah, from like dumb dad character to like kind of well-meaning dumb boyfriend who missed the mark kind of thing. Like, yeah, that was perfect. fit and i yeah i just loved how instead yeah of course like the comedy in it i just love just momoa's character instead of being put off by he's like all right i'll play i'll dance, i'm buying into this premise so let's go and then yeah that was just that was just perfect back right there it was great for momoa too and played against character i think he they even made him look like you know dad bod too he's wearing like a sweater or something, right? Yeah, he had a big cardigan. I think they'd given him like a fake kind of dad bod belly. And he was also fantastic in it. Yeah. I mean, he looked like a boring dad who used to be a professional wrestler or something. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Which is maybe this is part of it, right? Like as you say, he was kind of boring and this kind of reminded him of how crazy he was in his youth. And he was like, right into this game, I'm going to find you. And his competitive spirit was...Track 4:[51:49] Triggered yeah that was great season 44 uh first impression that's the momoa episode that was that was great uh one one other one uh that i want to explore and this ties into kind of a theme when i was thinking about beck is his very last episode um the anya taylor joy episode uh season 46 beck had a great night so he did the sketch the very his very last sketch was him.Track 4:[52:14] As Vin Diesel talking about like the movies and just describing all this stuff and the about the movie going experience the sticky floors the eight dollar bottle of water the nachos the hand dryer in the bathroom that's louder than a choo-choo train the second concession stand that's never been open the little boy at the urinal with his pants all the way down the bird that's trapped inside the lobby it's truly incredible that's right i'm talking about the movies but like almost the chef's kiss like the perfect ender to hit to beck's kind of dumb dad archetype was this one picture with dad so a few years ago there was this uh i don't know dumb kind of uh trend of dads posing for picture pictures with their like daughter's uh prom date holding a gun and the the joke the the joke was supposed to be in real life like he he if this guy does anything my daughter i'm going to shoot him so i love that they just played off that who else could they have gotten other than beck to do this kirsten that's just it this is This is the ultimate send-off because he is playing all of the things we've talked about.Track 4:[53:35] The dumb, confidently dumb dad, definitely a bit of a douche idiot, can't make the right decisions, man-child. Like, he ends up shooting himself in the doink. All right, now scooch together and smile. Okay, one, two. Whoa. Oh, my God. What?Track 4:[53:56] I saw it on the internet. It's funny. Chris, I told you that we weren't doing this. Oh, come on. It's funny. Dad, how is it funny? Well, you know, it's like, hey, mister, you better not try anything or I'll shoot you. And people are doing it. It's a thing, you know? It's like, bang! Dad! Stop. Oh, come on. Relax. It's really quite brilliant. It's a great one. And you're right. It kind of summarized all of these things that we've said about him and that, you know, all of the skills that he has and brings to the table. So it was fantastic I also do like that, Andrew and Heidi are basically keep telling him that they're going to have sex that night. Yeah. Yeah. Not to say, would you, will you promise me that you're not gonna have sex tonight? And Andrew's Andrew just like, um, we will, but sure. Yeah. Yeah.Track 4:[54:46] And 80 is playing the wife, right? And she's got the cooler box with just the pieces of him left.Track 4:[54:53] Anya's playing the OR doctor. Yep. Um, yeah, it was hilarious, man. He's great. Such a perfect, yeah, such a perfect send-off. And they didn't have an official send-off, quote-unquote, for Beck. But between this and that Vin Diesel one, like, what a great last episode. And that made me think, like, I think Beck left when he was at his peak. I think he left on a high note. Like, he was trending upward, almost proving himself to be arguably, he and Kate maybe at that time, the two most indispensable people on that cast. And Beck really did leave. I mean, he could have been on the cast even right now and still had a lot to give. So it was interesting to me that he got better, where sometimes you see cast members kind of like peter out toward the end of their tenure. But Kirsten, to me, I don't know if this is something that when I say it that causes a lightbulb moment, but I think he was peaking when he left. I mean, that's when you want to go out usually, isn't it? Yeah.Track 4:[55:55] I wonder what role he'll play in season 50. Yeah, I was curious about that. Do you think, like, is he the type of former cast member that you think will pop up in season 50 or over the years? Like, will people be clamoring for, like, a Beck Bennett, like, we need to see Beck in season 50 kind of guy? He's underrated. I think much like Taron Kalam, he's probably not going to be asked to host, which is a real shame. I don't agree with it. But those two were both very much glue players. Yeah.Track 4:[56:26] Within their respective casts and both underrated they have some serious fans and if you objectively they were fantastic cast members and have great characters great impressions all of the above so they might pop up in season 50 i don't know that they'd be asked to host and i think he would i would love to see it i'd be pleasantly surprised um but i maybe if he had a big movie come out you know like if something else changed in his post snl career that might make a difference it's kind of sad actually yeah i at least want to see him pop up in some capacity um if at the very least beck doing something on the actual celebration uh the actual 50th celebration oh yes in february yes yeah maybe not host i wasn't like maybe setting my sights that high. But he needs to be back and do something. And I think people will remember like, oh yeah, you know who was a great cast member? Beck Bennett. That's right. Yeah, I mean, too, like thinking about his career, it's been three years since Beck has been off the show. Where do you see his career heading? Is he like a leading comedic actor? Is he better as an ensemble? What do you think the entertainment world could have in store for Beck? I do think it's ensemble.Track 4:[57:53] I can see him in one of many ensemble comedies. I think he'll always get slotted into office-type situations. He's just that character at the office, the confidently dumb guy, or a neighbor. I don't know that he's any type of leading character that way. I think he's a little too funny-goofy. Again, this is not a complaint. No, no, not at all. my take on how I perceive that industry working.Track 4:[58:25] Kind of how Kristen, kind of when she first left, she started popping up in those co-worker type roles. So similar to that. There's also, you know, you look at, I think you should leave and potentially popping up on shows like that and some of the more creative shows that clearly have more control, and are doing some really interesting things. Because he does those characters so well, Well, I think he's just got to find that. Maybe him and Kyle are sitting on a pile of scripts right now. Who knows? They could be doing a whole bunch of stuff that we don't know about. And I do know he does a lot of voice work, I believe, right? That makes sense with that booming voice. Yeah, so he does a lot of voice work, which is a really nice way to earn your pay, right? I thought I heard him on a Buffalo Wild Wings commercial recently. Possibly, yeah. Playing this big buffalo. I watch a lot of sports. And so during March Madness, I swear I heard Beck's voice like constantly yeah yeah I think he does a lot of voice work which you know totally respectable way to pay those bills and and remain in that industry so, maybe I think has he been on a show like bad mouth I feel like those are his people oh yeah oh big mouth yeah did I oh you like all bad mouth yeah big mouth big mouth sorry with the Nick Kroll yep yeah it feels like if he hasn't that he should yes yeah no I could I I definitely agree with that, like more of an ensemble, which we always say, that's not a bad thing.Track 4:[59:53] Not everybody can be Will Ferrell, you know, and just be like this leading man. I think that's a really great thing, and I think Beck has a lot to give the comedy world. For one, I'm excited to see what he does moving forward. So, Kirsten, now's the time. We're now talking to SNL fans, SNL Hall of Fame listeners, the water cooler. Cooler why do you think they should hold beck bennett in high regard when they think about the history of snl all right.Track 4:[1:00:25] Reliability in that ensemble cast is huge. That's why he's in so many. You know, consistently being able to play a variety of roles with that type of range. We talked about the absurd and the subtlety and this really beautiful balance he achieved at all the characters that needed to portray those things. He also dipped his toe in political, which is a huge part of the show. He played pretty important political characters. I mean, come on, Putin, Mitch McConnell, even not important ones like Mike Lindell, who are we even calling him in the political realm? He pops up there. Yeah. The physical comedy, you know, it goes right back to season one, episode one and Chevy pratfalling, right? Like physical comedy is a huge part of what is part of SNL's DNA. And then the writing, you know, he had a great comedy writing partner in Kyle. And I'm sure there were others that I'm not aware of that are the actual writers on the show. But, you know, they were writing great content for themselves. They were dabbling in pre-tape. They were doing great sketch work. So I think that versatility cannot be downplayed. And whether he's underrated or not, objectively, he scores on the scorecard very high.Track 4:[1:01:53] And that has to be recognized and appreciated.Track 2:[1:02:08] So there's that. Thank you so much, Kirsten and Thomas. That was a wonderful conversation, and I was riveted by most of it. I really love the sketches that you intercut in there, Thomas. Some really great choices. I love the two boys that live in the house where they get hosed off by their parents. Those are great. Correct me if I'm wrong. Send me an email thesnlhof at gmail.com and tell me if i'm wrong but was beck's last sketch not the vin diesel parody uh impression impression rather um i feel like that was the 10 to 1 i feel like he he went out on a 10 to 1 the guy was really a tour de force and i enjoyed him a lot, Let's take a look now at a sketch that was alluded to in the episode. It's December to Remember with Heidi Gardner and that week's host, Timothy Chalamet. Enjoy.Track 5:[1:03:18] Hey, Matt, I think there might be one more gift for your mom right there. It hasn't been a normal year, so this Christmas, get her something extraordinary during the Lexus December to Remember sales event. Nathan, you didn't. With flexible financing and 0% APR, there's never been a better time to buy or lease a new Lexus. Merry Christmas, baby. Are you kidding me, Nathan? Did you seriously buy a car without asking me? Well, because for Christmas... This is a major purchase. Right, but it was a December to remember. It's a Lexus. We don't have the money for this, Nathan. We don't? No, we don't. Your father doesn't. Your father hasn't worked since last March. What? Yeah, COVID has hit a lot of people hard, and I'm no exception. Nathan, you got fired in March 2019. COVID had nothing to do with it. Hey, pal, I guess your old man's busted. It's beginning to look a lot like savings, so get to your local Lexus dealer today. How much did you spend on this ridiculous car, Nathan? It was only $39.99 to its signing. Four grand. It's not that much, babe. And how much is the monthly payment?Track 5:[1:04:32] The what? Did you think this entire car cost $4,000? Uh-huh. There's a monthly payment! Yeah, but with the 0% APER, I think it's all good. APER? Do you mean APR? I'm pretty sure it's APER. Wow. Just wow. Hey, come on! It's Christmas! This is good! I did a good thing for us! Let's enjoy it! Dad, it's 9 in the morning! So? It's not like I have work later. Come on! Hey!Track 5:[1:04:59] Hey, neighbor! You bought a Lexus? You come to me three weeks ago. Oh, Mike, help me. I need money. I can't buy Christmas gifts for my family. My wife doesn't respect me. I didn't say that. My wife's cheating on me with everyone. Mom, you are? I want to look cool in front of my son's girlfriend? Ew, Dad, is that why you pierced your ear? Uh, no, I've had this forever. I just need five grand to get back on my feet. And then you buy Alexis? Yeah, well, it was beginning to look a lot better. Like savings at my local lexus dealer i want my money back man tomorrow hey kathy, what does that look you know what we're taking this car back to the dealership now i better drive maybe we stop by jenna's on the way over show this cool car your dad got huh shut up give the gift of lexus and definitely talk it over first.Track 2:[1:05:55] That was great that is just so wonderful at being that confident man and then slowly devolving into like a blithering idiot it's it's fun to watch it's really fun to watch and snl of course is fun to watch and that's why we're here each and every week as a tribute to a show that has stood Stood the test of time. 50 years now. Coming up very soon. Are you excited about the SNL movie, Saturday Night?Track 2:[1:06:32] Are you excited about the 50th season? Are you excited about our new show, SNL Hall of Fame Water Cooler? Send me an email. Let me know. And while I'm asking you favors, would you do me one more? 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We're back and it's season 6! As is typical we've assembled a group to draft the nominees we will discuss this coming season. Join jD, Matt, and Thomas as they get together to build season 6!Transcript:[0:00] Thank you, Doug Donance. It's JD here, and I am thrilled to be back in the SNL Hall of Fame. Let me see if my key works, but before I do that, I'll wipe my feet. The SNL Hall of Fame is a weekly affair where each episode we take a deep dive into the career of a former cast member, host, musical guest, or writer, and add them to the ballot for your consideration. Consideration once the nominees have been announced we turn to you the listener to vote for the most deserving and help determined who will be enshrined for perpetuity in the hall and that's how we play the game it's just that simple but you know what behind the scenes folks it's not that simple because we have to curate a list of who we are going to discuss every season and we found the most fun way to achieve that is with a draft and we're going to do that again this year before we explain the rules i want to introduce the other two drafteteers they are your friends and mine matt ardill and thomas santa how are you doing fellas hello jd good Good to see you. Hey, J.D., great thanks.[1:28] That's a little inside baseball there, Thomas.[1:33] So, Thomas, do you want to go through the intricate rules of the draft? You are the master of the draft, after all. All right, sure thing. So, this is the third season, I think, that we've done a draft and had a draft episode. So, there's parameters. So the three of us, we each get five picks. So 15 total, we each get five picks. We each have to pick two cast members. We each have to pick one host.[2:05] We each have to pick a musical guest or a writer, and then we have the wild card. We can do whatever the heck we want with this, as long as it's a cast member, host, musical guest, or writer. But we have the wild card there. So that adds up to five picks each, 15 total, and I have in my hand a coaster that I'm going to flip. I'm going to give either JD or Matt the first pick. Uh so i want matt to call heads or tails matt uh tails tails it is so matt ardeal gets the first pick uh jd you get the second pick and i'll i'll round things out and get the last pick that's how the draft is working today folks um okay well i think for my first draft pick i am going to go with Garrett Morris aside from being an original cast member he's a Juilliard trained performer he can sing, dance, act the entire Nine Yards he just has incredible chops.[3:16] Amazing sketches or bits like the White Guild Relief Fund impressions of Chubby Checker that he did with Carrie Fisher first appearance of a Marvel character as ant-man um that's right and uh you know i i watched this one interview where he was talking about death row follies and it's like it was really interesting he was talking about how he was with harry belafonte's band and they were just chatting and he's like so the entire process was lauren just had an idea for a sketch and sent them off to write he didn't give him any direction It's like you're on death row, you're performing. And he's he went back to this memory. He's talking about how the core of improv is drawing from your experiences. He went back to this memory of talking to Harry Belafonte, band member who had watched an old like 1950s TV show. And if you remember the sketch, his bit is I'm going to get me a shotgun and kill all the whitest I see. And he's like well that actually originated from this old 1950s this is your life type of show where this woman had written over 300 songs and they brought her up from the audience and sat her down to interview her and.[4:32] Kind of of how the song went but she was a white woman from the south and uh so you can imagine how that was so he took it and flipped it and used that for comedy and it's just like you know it just brings so brought so much to the table and i feel like out of the original cast he's one of those people who just is is not given as much respect or acknowledgement as he's due and And I think it's his time to shine. JD, so this is Garrett's one of the last remaining original cast members that we have yet to discuss. This is exciting. What do you think, Jamie?[5:13] Yeah, I'm excited that we're kicking it off with an old school, an original seven. Is it seven? Right, it was seven. Do we count George Coe and Michael O'Donohue? Oh, no, I'm not. The core. I'm talking about the core. It's almost the same as the NHL where they have the original six, but there was errors before that had eight teams, you know, but whatever I digress, I think it's a great pick. I think it's an exciting pick for a show like ours. I know that he will be a tent pool, a tent pole rather in terms of episodes, you've probably noticed in the past that we, we stack, front stack and back stack with more high-profile performers or nominees, and Garrett Morris will certainly be one of those. That being said... I don't see him as a first ballot Hall of Famer. Lorraine Newman didn't make it in on the first ballot. And I can't imagine him doing better than Lorraine Newman.[6:18] Because I think, based on a time and place, he was critically misused. Yes. You know? He was the epitome of, you know, the South Park gag, the token, right? It almost smacks you in the face because you don't see him ever. And then when you do see him, it's like there's flashes of brilliance, like you were mentioning that. So I anticipate him going in, but not as a first ballot Hall of Famer. Yeah, there's not as much meat on the bone as far as his resume as a lot of cast members, but not necessarily his fault. Which i'll be interested to see if what if the voters may take that into account or anything but definitely you know a beloved original cast member i think this is uh this is an interesting um choice that makes sense for for an episode for us yeah i i think so i'm going to start with somebody who just really epitomizes my experience with snl in the last 12 years i would say I started watching this performer and I didn't like him that much unless he was with this other guy.[7:40] And then I started to like them as a duo.[7:44] And then I really saw that this next nominee was outshining not only his comedic partner, but several other male cast members. And I'm talking about Beck Bennett, who just recently became eligible for the Hall of Fame. So that may hurt his chances of getting in right away. But i think he's versatile i think he's the kind of guy and i know we overuse this statement but you ask him to do anything and he'll do it you know like he doesn't know an impression you know what he'll put it together in a week it's like that old school mentality yeah i don't know how to do a putin impression oh i know what i'll do i'll take off my shirt you know and and sound vaguely russian you know but it was one of my favorite reoccurring characters and i think one of the last sketches he did i might be wrong but it's a solo sketch with him as vin diesel yep that was his and that was the last sketch of of the of the night right yep yeah the onya taylor joy episode yeah that's right i just got such a kick out i got such a kick out of it so it was like Like, I sound so old when I say that, but I am. So there you go. By the time you're hearing this, I'm 50. I'm 50.[9:11] So that's my pick. Matt, what do you think? I agree. I think that's an awesome pick. I've always felt he's one of those performers that really grew on me. The longer he was on screen, the more I saw him. And yeah, I think I think that's a terrific choice. Also, he's he's in DuckTales. So, you know, I can't fault him there, you know, like.[9:37] Talented man of many many talents so if you ever want to hear a fantastic episode of it's a great podcast it's a stand-up comedian that hosts it there i'm narrowing it down substantially aren't i uh and it's got um he used to be in the hbo show called crashing oh pete homes pete homes yes Yes, he has a podcast, and he interviews Beck Bennett on an episode. Sorry, folks, for that previous ramble. That was very riveting podcasting, I know. But at any rate, he is featured on this episode of the podcast, and it's a long-form interview. It's like a three-hour interview, but they get into it. And he was a multimillionaire when he signed to go work at Saturday Night Live on the basis of those insurance company commercials he was doing with the kids. Oh, wow. I don't know if you ever saw that campaign, but it was a national campaign in the US and he booked it. And it became a reoccurring thing. And by the time it reoccurred for the fifth time, they signed him for six figures to do it. Oh, jeez.[10:49] And pete holmes pulls that out of him like afterwards he's so mortified because pete holmes like is like he's like would you get like 50k he's like no he's like 200k he's like oh i don't really want to talk about it like 750k it's like okay it was a million dollars.[11:10] I digress on the insurance commercials yeah yeah it was it was uh their telephone phone commercials telephone commercials yeah he had a group of kids and he was almost like the moderator and ask kids questions or whatever and so when he got hired to snl i was like oh that's the guy from the commercials so i had already known his face and i'm like i didn't know he did comedy and he's on snl now that's gonna be interesting he turned into like a steady hand he turned into like like basically almost the rock of the show like he and keenan we're almost like the steady hand rocks of of the of that era of snl i'm excited about talking about back, Yeah, it's going to be a great episode, I suspect. Who do you have for us? Yeah. Try. So I am going to go, I want to go a different route. I'm going to use my musical guest early. And probably in a lot of ways because I think I already have a guest booked for this. One of my favorite guests to bring on the SNL Hall of Fame to talk music. So I'm going to pick you two as a nominee. And with the understanding that musical guests haven't had such great luck here on the SNL Hall of Fame, I think Paul Simon is in, and that's about it. I think I'm going to keep banging this drum all season. Dave Grohl should be in, and I will be talking about that as much as I can.[12:40] This is Dave Grohl's final season on the ballot. But I digress. You two, amazing band. Some memorable appearances at SNL four times on the show. And I think I have an awesome guest lined up to talk about U2. So I'm going to take U2 off the board early as my musical guest. They would have been one of my picks tonight, I suspect. They were on my musical shortlist if I didn't pick a writer. So they could have ended up a wild card for me. That being said, when did their appearances start? Were they always like a superstar band on the show? Well, that's the thing. Yeah, no, I don't think they appeared until the 90s.[13:23] Until like Octane Baby. Yeah, that's one of the things about them. From my recollection, I think they did pop. But they didn't appear when the Joshua Tree came out. They kind of missed like that. So I think their first appearances were in the 90s. So that'll be discussed, I'm sure. On our show as far as like timing of their appearances to me it reminds me maybe a little bit of prince in some ways uh as far as timing of their appearances for me they appeared after i'd already burnt out on them like i was that joshua tree era fan and really wasn't that zuropa.[14:03] You know kind of era didn't really click for me but i do know a lot of people of my age who were completely over the moon when they were on snl uh so yeah i mean they're a great band no arguments there but uh i don't know it's just for me they don't they aren't as as it isn't as memorable but i i can understand why because they are still such an amazing band and they did really put it all on the table whenever they did perform i just think for me the fact that the first time they showed up on SNL, if they were touring Octoon Baby, then it was either the Zoo TV tour, which was a stadium tour, or it was the one that had the cars hanging from the arena. I forget what that part of the tour was called before they went into Zoo TV and stadiums. So you have this band that's playing stadiums around the world coming into 8H.[15:00] This little wee stage. Right. That's what I mean. That's frickin' Hall of Fame. Yeah, I agree. That's one of the fascinating things about SNL and musical guests is sometimes we take for granted, like Lady Gaga or Taylor Swift or somebody like that. We're seeing these acts in a more intimate setting instead of these stadiums. U2 definitely qualifies. I think that's a really good point. Yeah, so that's my pick. We have Garrett Morris, Beck Bennett and you, too. It's back to Matt.[15:32] I'm going to go with my host card next. I am going to nominate Adam Driver. Again, one of those really strong players. He really brings his heart to every performance and he'll do things that like I'm pretty sure other people of his caliber of stardom would really push back on. I mean, you look at that cold open sketch that where he was Epstein and John Lovitz was Alan Dershowitz during the impeachment trial, the dark gallows humor that he was willing to go to in that for that sketch.[16:11] But then you also see like really over the top, silly things like when he was playing Dr. Rock hard, the porn doctor. And it's just, he's willing to like, you know, he's another one of those performers like Jon Hamm, like the star, his stardom doesn't get in the way of him doing silly stuff that takes down his own myth, like even like the undercover boss is Kylo Ren is so I'm going with Adam driver. Great pick. I think Adam driver, he wasn't on my short list, but I think it's a fantastic pick because he's. He doesn't have a dud. He doesn't have a dud episode. And that's key to being a Hall of Fame host, in my opinion. I tend to lean toward the five-timer being, you know, sort of a cutoff for me, and he just misses that.[17:06] But man, I can't wait to see those other performances working with this group that is starting to really find itself yeah this adam driver is one to me he's one of the better hosts of this whole era of snl and matt you did me a favor because adam driver was on like a short list and i was going to be debating between the shipping driver these other people so you just made that decision easier for me uh by taking adam driver because he was definitely on my like short very short list of hosts uh that i was considering he's just a guy He did some comedic stuff in Girls. He had some comedic moments, but I wouldn't describe him as a comedian or a comedic actor, but he showed those chops on SNL. I think a lot of times that's what happens. A lot of those good actors tend to do really well as SNL hosts because they can just slide in and do really quality sketch work. He was definitely up for anything. I love this. I'm super pumped to talk about Adam Driver. Yeah, it's going to be a great conversation. Anyone in mind off the top of your head? Not at all.[18:15] I'll put the fillers out there. I'll get somebody good, I'm sure of it. Yeah, that's great. All right. I'm up next. And I'm going to go with an old favorite.[18:27] To me, the first season of SNL that my little peepers got to see was Lauren's first year back. I saw the back half of that season. and was blown away. I had seen some Eddie Murphy episodes prior to that, but not much, and I don't have memories of them. But that season, I have memories. I have memories of one particular actor, and it's not Dennis Miller, who I thought was the coolest dude of all time, but the guy that made me laugh the most consistently because he was hammy, but not in a hammy way. And it's John Lovitz who I'm talking about. I think he's got a terrific resume. He was one of the very few. Nora Dunn, Dennis Miller, and he were the only survivors of the massacre that ensued following that season that Lauren came back. And they carried over into what became the second golden era of Saturday Night Live. In many ways, they formed, you know, the foundation of the next.[19:47] 20 years of that show you had the you know with the weekend update you had the solo performer doing weekend update you had this character actor that would do fantastic characters all the time and again i'm talking love it's just really terrific stuff uh i'm i'm really excited to see who you line up to talk about john lovitz i'm sure there'll be quite a a few people who want to do that but i'm curious what you guys think yeah people are going to be chomping at the bit to talk to talk about this and i i know off the top of my head at least uh, a couple snl podcasters out there uh would love maybe have already talked to me about hey if you guys do john lovitz let me know that would be one that i'd be interested so i know i have no shortage of options for john lovitz this is such a good one too it's funny jamie i'm keeping track of this i'm typing as as we go along and as soon as you started saying this person stood out to me at the end of lauren's first season i wrote john lovitz i'm like and i'm really excited because and you did me a favor too just like matt did me a favor with adam driver john lovitz was on like my very short list like i i was saying to myself am i really gonna go another draft without picking john lovitz we have to have john lovitz on on the season so i'm so excited about this jamie.[21:09] Great minds. He was on my list as well, honestly. I mean, like Tommy Flanagan, the devil in the people's court, you know, like just these consistently hilarious.[21:19] I mean, at the time when I was a kid, I didn't get him as much. But going back and rewatching him, I was like, I get it now. I get why everybody loves him. And I just think my tastes were not refined enough to appreciate him at the time. But yeah, having gone back and rewatched his era, I watched it on TV at the time, too. He's just a freaking genius. He knows when to go big. He knows when to be small.[21:54] And he'll do completely bonkers characters. And right now, he's adopted this, you know, well, I say right now, but over the last 25 years, he's adopted this butt of all jokes, you know, SNL based.[22:11] And I think that's hilarious. Like when they did the Immemorium, and he was on there. There's been other instances as well. So a lot of fun. Yeah absolutely yeah john love it's awesome so we're back to me uh i'm gonna um pick a cast member i'm gonna utilize one of my cast member choices and we've talked about molly shannon congratulations molly on being an so hall of famer we've talked on a gas dyer so i'm gonna go with a very talented woman who who was.[22:42] Their cohort who often upstaged them and who maybe popped dropped even more so than the other two which is saying a lot uh we haven't heard a ton from her since snl but i still think sherry o terry should get some love and get an episode of her own wow so i want to choose sherry o terry uh as my choice we're gonna have a sherry o terry episode and i think it's well deserved i think she was a big uh really big part of the resurgence of snl back in the late 90s oh totally agree like she was just like an amazing workout horse great great impersonations and impressions and just terrific a terrific energy like like i mean it was she was in a cast with some really amazing people but she always you know she could hold her own you know with with the rest of rest of the cast and her barbara walters is like when i imagined barbara I actually imagine her impression more than I imagine actually Barbara Walters. And it's like that just speaks to how much of a stamp she put on her performances. Yeah, I think in particular, her work with Will Ferrell was spectacular.[23:54] They found each other in scenes together quite often. And she could keep up with him physically and emotionally. You know, turn a phrase in a character type way. Really terrific stuff. Yeah, I can't wait. We've talked about a lot of the people from that era, and they're always really fun conversations because a lot of listeners, some of my guests, that's like their prime SNL years. It was like the Will Ferrell, Molly Shannon on a gas tire. We've taught Chris Parnell, we've taught Daryl Hammond. So I think it's about time Sherry O'Terry gets her episode. So i'm glad you guys are excited about this one well i guess it's my turn again uh i am going to go to the writer's pool uh for this one i'm going to plumb my gen x credentials and choose one of my favorite sketch you know sketch performers writers um later dramatic actors is Bob Odenkirk. He's, you know, probably in a lot of ways coming out of the writer's room. He don't like a lot of the writers do very successfully afterwards, but they're not necessarily as high profile. Whereas in a lot of ways, he's probably one of the most high profile former writer of the show as an actor, like with Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul.[25:22] But, you know, You know, he, you know, his writing with Robert Smigel and Conan O'Brien, but, you know, came out of the Chicago Second City community and created us, created characters like, you know, the the. Chris Farley's inspirational speaker, Matt Foley. And he went on to become like a very big voice in Gen X comedy with Mr. Show and working with Ben Stiller and Chris Elliott and writing for Dennis Miller when he had his own show. So, yeah, I'm just a big fan of Bob Odenkirk and I'd love to see him inducted. Yeah I wonder uh our buddies at the um Saturday Night Network um are definitely great as far as helping us out with credits and stuff so I'm curious there's probably gonna be some Odenkirk stuff that I didn't know that he was behind that I'll find out through this that tends to happen when I start researching the writers and doing all of that so I'm excited to find out a lot of what I don't know about Bob's SNL tenure obviously I think he might get a little bit of a bump too because of Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad and he's still relevant now. So I think we might see what I'll call the Conan O'Brien bump. Maybe not to that level, but I think there's going to be a little bit of a surge for him. But I'm excited to see just what I don't know about Odenkirk.[26:46] Yeah, and it's very little. that uh like i didn't uh i forgot completely about the motivational speaker matt foley being a brainchild of his but i've watched the second city version of it and it's it's you know it's really great i think you are going to find somebody that's going to make a fantastic case for bob odenkirk i would have difficulty being the person to do that because i am not good at research and it's a it's a blind spot for me so i think that that is something that i'm trying to wrap my head around a little bit when i think about him as a as a hall of famer i look at the other writers who are in the hall you get seth myers you get conan o'brien yeah conan o'brien is this outlier. I can't wait to listen to the episode. So, you know, I want to be swayed. Yeah, hopefully it's a good one for you all. I'm sure it will be. I'm looking forward to see who takes on the assignment of being my guest for the Odin Kirk episode. I'm going to go with hosts next.[28:02] And it's someone who breaks my rule that I already outlined, you know, 300 strikeouts or 500 home runs to get into the Hall of Fame. And that's five stints as a host. This gentleman only has four. That's good, Jamie. I was going to talk you out of that anyway. So you shouldn't be so beholden to that. Okay, that's fine. That's fine.[28:28] So i think um i remember a party years ago i was still at an age it was season 19.[28:36] And i was of an age where i had to watch saturday night live live like every like every week like did not miss it and there was this big house party and i put it on and sat down on the couch to watch And I remember it vividly because it was Nirvana hosting. Nirvana was the musical guest, and it was my next nominee's first time hosting the show. And that was all the way back in 1993, I believe. And this is Charles Barkley. yeah and he he's very relevant nowadays because he's he says he claims he's retiring from tv.[29:18] We're recording this uh a little ahead of time uh until it comes out he says he's retiring from tv because tnt uh isn't gonna have basketball right i don't know what's gonna go on with inside the nba i don't know if i quite believe him honestly one of the most entertaining people uh in sports television always entertaining when he hosts snl she's a really charismatic dude just really funny guy uh so i i like this i i have to say i i think that's a great choice because i mean he's one of those few i'm not a big fan of sports personalities right on the show and he's one of the few i felt because i mean i still remember like i were we're months apart in age so uh i was watching that same night and uh that that you know that was a.[30:06] I had my shaggy shoulder length, greasy hair and grubby beard and my flannels. So I was right into Nirvana at that time. And yeah, it was like it was a surprising performance for me to do as well and be as strong as he was. But it was a great, great showing. I think one of the other, you know, sort of not rules, but little guidelines I like to look at for a host is how many eras did they work in? And he also qualifies there for me. His first appearance was again in season 19, and it was 1993. Then we didn't get him again until 2010 in season 35. Then he showed up relatively quickly with Kelly Clarkson in 2012 on season 37.[31:02] But then he wasn't back till season 43 in 2018. So that would have been almost an entire turnover at that point. I think to me that somebody that can host that many good episodes, I think season over season, era over era is somebody that should be at least considered for the Hall of Fame. Do I think he's a first ballot? No, but I think to use the parlance of his former sport, he's a slam dunk at some point. Oh, very nice, J.D. It's like a mic drop on your Charles Barkley. I like it.[31:41] So Charles Barkley is a host. I'm going to pick a host as well. You guys, I have a musical guest. I picked a cast member.[31:50] I'm going to go with the host. Somebody who's been very important to SNL. A former cast member but i don't think she quite has the resume to talk about as a cast member but i think she has some underrated episodes definitely when i went back and looked at her work as a host it surprised me as far as uh how strong she was as a host and maybe it shouldn't because she was a cast member she's hilarious i'm talking about julia louis drive is ah which does break your your rule jamie about she's only a three-timer uh but she she's she's worked with uh at least two different eras she hosted in 2006 2007 and she hosted in 2016 so she's worked with at least two different eras um but she always just really she was a steady hand as a host she did a great job to me the two this is a chance to celebrate julia um just all around as well and i think that's what this show SNL Hall of Fame is about is the chance to celebrate these folks and so I'm excited to celebrate just a super talented woman who has had an impact on SNL maybe I think more so maybe as a host than as a cast member but it'll be fun just to talk about her maybe touch on her entire body of work just a great comedic actor I love Julia Louis-Dreyfus So I want to talk about her for me. It feels when she came back to host, it was very much like a returning champion.[33:15] You know, like she came back and she'd conquered and she was able to, to relish in that glory.[33:21] And, and you know, I was like, I remember watching her in her era on the show and coming back and seeing her. And she's just so much more confident in every scene and so much more like she was great originally, but you see this growth in her. And it was great to see her at the peak of her ability coming back to the show. What I think is fascinating is I don't know off the top of my head if there is another host Hall of Famer that was a former cast member. And I don't think there is. I don't think so. I think this might be the first. Yeah. I think that that's a fascinating aspect of this candidacy. You know, that here she is, somebody that has three years on the show under her belt, and she gets called in. She knows what she's doing, not only comedically and as a comedic actress, but as a former cast member.[34:22] She sort of knows the ropes, and that is terrific fodder for conversation, I think. Yeah, absolutely. I think there's two people, there's two cast members in the SNL Hall of Fame that I think have cases to be in the SNL Hall of Fame as hosts. And I think Will Ferrell and Kristen Wiig probably have cases for both things, which is pretty impressive. Um if we're talking former cast members as hosts you know the two of two of the preeminent ones are already in the hall i think julia is a good uh next level uh as far as that goes yeah well how do you follow julia louis-dreyfus um so i think i'm gonna go with another cast member uh and i was speaking about dr rockhard earlier and i'm gonna go back to his his waiting room.[35:16] And showing Aidy Bryant who is just another one of those incredible talents um solid delivery 10-year veteran on the show just you know her her musical bits you know and on top of that possibly the best Ted Cruz impersonation that I have ever seen um yeah and I mean she got her start like as a producer for comedy bang bang and she just brought that willingness and energy that you get in that LA alt comedy scene to SNL and I thought it was a great addition I did not know that's where she came from that's, amazing the former TV show or the, podcast the TV show oh so cool wow yeah I think this is a another great pick.[36:10] Matt um ad bryant is a spectacular cast member and again she was alongside kate mckinnon you know and kate mckinnon was was gilda radner was jan hooks was kristin wigg you know begat kate mckinnon and yet ad stood beside her and could shine brighter and that to me not all the the time but you know from time to time for sure and that to me is um a great place to start your argument for why she belongs in the hall yeah so beloved i'm curious to see what the voting percentage will be like from her if we're reading the tea leaves with kate mckinnon um it probably won't go in 80s favor the first time um but she's definitely to me she's hall worthy i'll say that and and she's definitely episode worthy this is something when when 80 stepped away from the show this was something that i was excited like i know in a couple years in a few seasons or whatever we're gonna be able to do an 80 brian episode so this is something i've been looking forward to ever since she left the show matt so this this is this is awesome the research is gonna be fun i'm gonna know i'm gonna have a great guest there's people gonna be lining up to talk about 80 bryant she's just such a beloved figure on snl and and i think we're seeing kind of hard to replace.[37:37] Honestly yeah all right so i'm up to bat i'm gonna close my eyes and point no.[37:46] I'm not gonna do that i'm gonna go in order i'm gonna stay in order i did two cast members i did a um host now Now I'm going to do a musical guest slash writer.[37:57] But I'm going to choose a musical guest who was a fantastic songwriter, quite frankly. One of the best songwriters and most well-known songwriters in his generation, which was predominantly the 70s, although adult contemporary played him throughout the 80s. And he made his presence known on SNL, I believe, in 80, 83, and then 86. He was on the Ebersole era he was on the original Lorne era and then Lorne brought him back for that first season I'm talking about if you don't know Randy Newman, who is not my bag necessarily, but I recognize the brilliance in his songwriting and his ability to inflect his sense of humor. He's got a wicked sense of humor, and he uses that in his music in a really fun kind of way. The only contemporary artist I can think of that reminds me of something similar is like Ben Folds. But Ben Folds certainly wasn't ever as big as Randy Newman was or is, although I do love Ben Folds.[39:16] Anyway, I think that's my – well, I don't think. That's my pick, Randy Newman, and I'm sticking to it. Yeah, six-timer Randy Newman. Six-timer, yeah, absolutely. So he had quite an impact on the show. I already have maybe somebody in mind as a guest for Randy Newman.[39:34] So I think not totally like 100% my cup of tea. There's a lot of stuff that he did that I did like, but maybe an era before me. But you can't argue his impact as a songwriter. Just what a reliable guest that he was on SNL.[39:52] So I think this is a really great choice. We're celebrating an older era of SNL that deserves to be celebrated with one of the predominant musical guests from that era. I like it, Jamie. Same here. I mean, like he's one of those performers that, you know, especially in that early era, SNL tapped into the zeitgeist musically in a way that was seldom seen on television. Like, you know, you wouldn't see him on a lot of TV shows other than these shows like SNL pushing the edges of musical talent and bringing in voices that were not necessarily always paid attention to. But I mean, he's gone on to. Yeah, I mean, he's been gone on to become like this cultural touchstone, like the Toy Story theme songs, like all the he's like all sorts of movies and television shows that he's touched. And I think that a lot of that comes back to these six episodes that he did that that helped elevate him so this will be a great conversation good job Jamie I love it so and another musical guest and uh we can see how musical guests of different eras kind of do I'm always fascinated yeah I don't have high hopes yeah but I do I do think uh sorry I said it's the journey that that that's that's what I think that's what's important here it's the journey not like if he makes it or what's that.[41:17] You got it. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I mean, it's important, but, you know, I've learned my lesson with Dave Grohl and I just had to appreciate doing the Dave Grohl episode and whether he gets into the hall, you know, that's, that's, um, I almost have to take that as like a bonus. So I'm up next and I'm, I have another cast member, uh, that I need to, I, so I picked Sherry O'Terry as my first cast member and I'm going to go a little more current than Sherry O'Terry and And talk about Bobby Moynihan. I think Bobby's had such a huge impact on SNL. And he was often, he never was somebody who was looked at as the leader of any of his casts. But he was so, so important. And I think he was always such an underrated cast member. Until he left the show and then people started reevaluating his time at SNL. Completely. Yeah, right? Yeah. Yeah, people were like, wasn't Bobby Moynihan so good? And then we start thinking of all these characters, all his sketch work. He still loves SNL. He still appears on it. He's an SNL podcast listener.[42:24] I'm about 5% convinced that he might listen to the SNL Hall of Fame. That's how much he loves SNL. So Bobby Moynihan, if you're out there, we love you, and we're going to do an episode on you. For me, he was like, when he popped for me, he just like there's the one sketch and i liked him but you know it's sort of on the fence but my wife's like ah i just i don't he's not but then he did the peppa up in here character and we're just like we're in love we're in love with bobby he's just so brilliant and.[43:03] Yeah, I can't wait to hear this episode. I think you really hit it on the head when you were talking about his departure and reflecting back and, you know, seeing that Bobby Moynihan-shaped hole.[43:19] I think that his versatility is something that isn't discussed enough. He was great in sketches.[43:28] He was great at being a character. and he did weekend update bits of the yin yang that were almost all home runs if that's not hall of fame worthy i don't know what is what i am going to be interested to see is the two current big boys so far are beck bennett and bobby moynihan those are you know sort of current era level hall of fame nominees i'm curious which one will get more ballots this year i don't think either goes in this year but do.[44:05] A little side bet but i'm curious who gets the most ballots yeah yeah maybe we can get a sponsorship from exactly yeah um yeah so i'm glad you guys like this pick bobby monahan super excited to start delving into his all his work uh i mean i know a lot of it a lot of it's imprinted in my mind but it's just so fun to go back and watch him cook like the weekend update desk is something that he he was just he just lived in and made his own riblet and drunk uncle like there's just like things that are so classic oh yeah we still go back to a drunk uncle like just everyone's always like yeah this is a drunk uncle moment yeah definitely yeah so bobby moynihan uh matt circling back around so we're down to the home stretch it's our the final pick for for all three of us so yeah.[45:02] I am going to go back to the beginning. Alan Zweibel, you know, one of the original band of writers, penned for that first season of SNL. He went on to get a really close relationship with Gilda Radner, writing a memoir about the relationship, Bunny Bunny, Gilda Radner, a sort of love story, which was adopted into a play for Gary Shandling, her enthusiasm. Enthusiasm but also he created i i say two of the most iconic sketches of that original era which are belushi samurai sketch and and rosanne rosanna dana i feel like those are two wow yeah those early characters that really you you think back to them it's like they just pop and they're both they're both from his pen so uh yeah that is my final pick yeah i think that's a great pick uh Alan's White Bell, they talk about him being under the Weekend Update desk, handing off jokes. He was a joke writer. That's what he was. He was a joke writer, and he was among the last people to be hired, I think.[46:11] But they knew what they needed, and they knew that he could deliver, and deliver he did. Bonding early on with Gilda Radner, using that bond to create. An iconic character, co-create an iconic character, like you say, that may have overstayed her welcome. But she was on quite a bit those first couple seasons. But nevertheless, she was great. And he's great. And I think that the people that listen to this show are.[46:47] Need to start understanding that this is a show that has performers that do great work and are coming from a school of improvisation. But virtually everything you see every week on Saturday Night Live is written, and it's written by really talented people, and they need to be reflected in the hall as well. Well said here here and uh yeah as why bell when i go back and watch old uh snl episodes he makes me do the leonardo dicaprio pointing at the tv because he will he will appear like you'll see a sketch and then you'll be like oh it's why there's alan's why bell in the background or they used a picture of alan's why bell on weekend update for something or he'll just kind of pop up he's like uh where's waldo uh in that era's why bell will pop up when you least expect him and he had a really funny cameo and a curbing enthusiasm as well he had a funny interaction with larry david uh when he ran into him in new york city at a bar that one of my favorite scenes in the show's history is why belt was a part of so we love oh oh this is gonna be a fun one to listen to yeah i've got a lot to learn and that is where i start with my wild card pick i've got Got a lot to learn. I don't know a lot about this next fella.[48:07] I know not a lot about him because of the era he came into, but I know that he was part of the bread and butter. There was Eddie Murphy carrying the load, but the glue guy was Joe Piscopo. I felt you were going there. And Joe Piscopo is somebody that I think, while he's got some interesting things to say these days, I think that reflecting back on his actual career, which is what we want to do and we want to look at, I think that he was pivotal. He was pivotal. There are a handful of people that are responsible for SNL staying afloat. I'm not going to say keeping it alive in this case, because I don't think he was that valuable a cog.[49:02] Uh over overall but he kept it afloat for sure like he was somebody who kept it afloat he was he was a steady rower and it was a time that things were not steady other than steady eddie of course so joe pescabo he's got my back he's probably the most buff uh former cast member in the show's history if i i would i mean i haven't done the proper research for this uh but But my guess is he's the most ripped cast member in history. What do you guys think? I have to agree. Beck Bennett is surprisingly close, but I think Joe in his heyday has that title. I think he's the only one who's appeared on a men's health magazine, that's for sure. Probably. Never saw Kyle Mooney in men's health.[49:53] Now I've got that sketch in my head where he got like wearing the bodysuit like. Like, that's what Joe Piscopo actually looked like at one point. Let's write a sketch about Joe Piscopo. Jamie, this is great. I think people always talk about Eddie Murphy, rightfully so. Like, Eddie Murphy was amazing in that era. But Joe, Joe Piscopo was right there with him in a lot of these classic sketches. Sketches and i think i know a lot of snl super fans who really go to bat for for talking about how how important joe piscopo was and what an actual like good cast member he was uh so this will be uh really neat to go back and watch frankly a lot of sketches that sort of get lost in time from that era if eddie murphy wasn't a part of them um it's almost like they just kind of get lost in snl history so this will be a fun one for me and when you find them out there they're They're usually hacked to bits, right? Like there's like three sketches and then meet one musical performance or something like that. You know, exactly. What have you got for us, Thomas? Oh, sorry, man. Sorry. I was just going to say, I can't wait as well. Like I, I mean, he's such a, he, I love his mobster characters when he, when he goes into that sort of like rat rat pack, channeling like uh frank sinatra that he would often do yeah and they use that like that like later on in his career he appeared on star trek the next generation as like a rat pack era.[51:21] Comedian and yeah like he mentored data on how to be a stand-up comedian and it's just like he just He exudes the feel of that era, but that's because he just is so good at committing to a bit. So, yeah, I can't wait. Thomas, you're bringing this home. Yes, sir. I'm rounding this out. I have a wild card pick as well, and I'm going to add another host into the mix and end it with a host. It's a five timer. So I'm adhering to that to that loose rule, I guess, of having a five timer. It's somebody who actually hosted six times between 1982 and 1999. Bobby Moynihan apparently actually impersonated this person on the show one time. So I'm talking about Danny DeVito. Danny DeVito. I was going to guess that. Yeah. So it's Danny DeVito. He was always like a very reliable host. He hosted one time with his wife, Rhea Perlman. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. I remember him having memorable sketches of really funny. Everybody talks about the delicious dish with Alec Baldwin, but Danny DeVito was in a really clever delicious dish sketch in his own right that I'll definitely talk about. I always loved Danny. He's such an interesting, quirky personality.[52:41] And it's just going to be so fun to chat about his hosting gigs at SNL. Like I said, 82 to 99. So not quite like he never hosted with a lot of the new cast. But he's got to see a lot of SNL so Danny DeVito is my choice, I like it. It's a bold choice. It's sort of sitting in the bushes, you know, but it's very obvious once you play those cards. And the fact that the run is from 82 to 99, and you got a lot of quality appearances you know again another stat quality appearances.[53:31] They together with ria perlman i thought um was a fun episode and for a time it almost seemed like he was going to challenge alec baldwin he even had the episode with his spouse You know, they were rolling out around the same episodes, and then Baldwin just took off in a bolt. I think that Danny DeVito is somebody that will, you know, probably hit around the 35% mark in his first year, which to me is somebody that's likely to get in. But it'll take a couple years of us pestering people and telling people, no, no, watch the episodes. This guy was really good. And Danny DeVito is one of those interesting. I remember watching Taxi as a kid and he was just like so abrasive. But it was again, it comes back to his.[54:32] His capability of understanding the moment and what he needed to bring to any scene. And then, you know, you go on to watch twins and all of this stuff growing up. I actually don't remember his SNL days. So I'm going to have to go back and rewatch those episodes. Not quirky sketches. sketches it's very some a lot of them are very danny devito which is a good thing good thing yeah yeah yeah yeah it's gonna be fun yeah definitely i think it's always sunny in philadelphia is gonna help him too because a lot of younger he's very relevant yeah a lot of younger people like it's always sunny i like it my my uh 16 year old niece loves it so that's you know he he a lot of people from different generations know danny devito and i think it's always sunny he's going to help him a lot here. I wonder if he'll come back. I wonder if he'll do a stint again. Yeah, I was looking at hosts. If that show ends or something. I think he'd be game. He's really game for anything.[55:31] He's not a person to turn down an opportunity to perform. So I would say he'd go for it. Maybe we can hire him for the SNL Hall of Fame Christmas party this year. Oh, I'll put some fillers out. I'm efforting as we say in the business. Well, Thomas, do you want to run down our picks one more time? Absolutely. So in order of whether they're drafted, we have... Garrett Morris, Beck Bennett, U2, Adam Driver, John Lovitz, Sherry Oteri, Bob Odenkirk, Charles Barkley, Julia Louis-Dreyfus, A.D. Bryant, Randy Newman, Bobby Moynihan, Alan Zweibel, Joe Piscopo, and Danny DeVito. I spared you guys my Don Pardo impression. I drew that, by the way, so you're welcome.[56:27] Listen i think that that's a formidable class of nominees rather not inductees but nominees i think that uh we've got an interesting season at our at our hands on top of those 15 episodes of course we're going to do another don pardo award there will be of course our famous round roundtable episode and then we'll wrap it all up with the class of season six. I wonder who on the ballot will make it. It'll be interesting to see. Thomas, Matt, thanks so much. This was a blast. That was great. Well, that's what we've got for you. So if you do me a favor and on the way out, as you pass the weekend update exhibit, turn out the lights because the SNL Hall of Fame is now closed.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/snlhof/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Kevin Wright, vice president of production and development at Marvel Studios, has left the media giant to pursue producing his own original tv and film ideas. Notably, Wright was an executive producer for the MCU streaming series Loki, which was actually his pitch to Kevin Feige and series star Tom Hiddleston. Wright originally started at Marvel as a development assistant. Happy Hunger Games! At least certainly for fans of the franchise as author Suzanne Collins announced a new installment in her Hunger Games saga called Sunrise on the Reaping, which will release March 18, 2025. The book is another prequel like The Ballad of Songbirds & Snakes. Alongside this announcement, Lionsgate shared that a film adaptation of the new book is already greenlit and currently set to premiere on November 20, 2026. At a panel for The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim at the Annecy Animation Festival, 20 minutes of the film was shown to the audience. The footage was applauded by the crowd and by Andy Serkis, who was running the panel. Serkis also revealed at the event that Miranda Otto, who played Eowyn in the Lord of the Rings trilogy will serve as the story's narrator and that Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh were executive producers on the film, which hits theaters in December. Maybe franchise fever still exists! One would think so after seeing that Will Smith and Martin Lawrence's latest team up, Bad Boys: Ride or Die, crushed its opening weekend projections, opening at $104.6 million globally. The film punished Furiosa's opening with a 58% higher box office. Abbott Elementary actor Tyler James Williams asked Anthony Mackie about the challenges he faced transitioning Sam Wilson from films to television. Paraphrasing, Mackie said “Bringing Falcon to that series, there was so much time to fill. It's literally so much story and so much exposition and so much character that it's a daunting task. Luckily it was just a great experience with great leadership.” Legendary has tapped Grant Sputore to direct the next theatrical outing in the Monsterverse franchise following March's Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire. Sputore most recently helmed the 2019 sci-fi movie I Am Mother. Kristen Stewart will make her TV series-starring debut in The Challenger, a limited series in which she'll play Sally Ride, the astronaut and physicist who became the first American woman to fly in space. Paul Giamatti has joined the cast of Paramount's Star Trek Starfleet Academy as a recurring guest star role and as the season's central villain. Set in the same era as The Acolyte, the next adult novel of Phase III of The High Republic from Star Wars releases on June 11. Stars of 1998's cult classic Practical Magic, Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kidman, are in talks to star in a sequel. Entertainment Weekly claims to confirm that Taylor Swift will not be appearing as Dazzler in July's Deadpool & Wolverine. Peacemaker Season 2 cast Picard actress Sol Rodiguez and The Office actor David Denman. The Boys showrunner Eric Kripke announced that the show will end after its fifth season. The Yahya Abdul-Mateen II-led Wonder Man series is rumored to be 10 episodes long. The Frasier revival on Paramount+ has added two Frasier alumni to the cast. Dan Butler, who played Bulldog, and Edward Hibbert, who played Gil Chesterton on the original show, will return to guest star in season two of the revival series. Zack Snyder's director's cuts of both Rebel Moon films will be released on Netflix on August 2nd. The rated R cuts also received new titles which are Chapter One: Chalice of Blood and Chapter Two: Curse of Forgiveness. Saturday Night Live actor Beck Bennett becomes the newest addition to the cast of James Gunn's Superman. Rumor has it Bennett will play a reporter of note in the movie. Last week Mikaela Hoover and Christopher McDonald were also added to the cast and will also play reporters in The Daily Planet newsroom.

It's our twenty ninth Superman Special! Zach is joined by Lance Laster from Always Hold On To Arrow for the latest Superman (2025) update. We talk the casting of Mikaela Hoover as Cat Grant, Christopher McDonald as Ron Troupe, and Beck Bennett as Steve Lombard.Check out Lance on Always Hold On To Arrow.Always Hold On To Smallville is brought you to by listeners like you. Special thanks to these Meteor Freaks on Patreon who's generous contributions help produce the podcast!Chris Fuchs / @crfuchs7Kevonte Chilous / @chill_usJoey Dienberg / @JoeyD94_13DJ Doena / @DjDoenaIsaiah GoodridgeCory MooreNathan RothacherAtif SheikhThomas NavenJohn CurcioAndrew Parker / @parkerstpaulMadameRougeMarc-ids FoppenPatricia Carrillo / @MsCarrillo92Tim MillerMichael HartfordJim CrawfordKasey Vach / @ThePandaSupremeMegan RichRouie HumphreyAlex HamiltonMatt DouglasDaniel CurielJames BTrevis HullTanner StipeNathan MacKenzie / @maccamackenzieSteve Rogers / @SteveJRogersJrMollie FicarellaJames Lee / @Jae_El_52Jo Michael / @jweissbrod86Jason Davis / @superjay_92Patrick BravoJacob StevenartDana BiusTae Tae / @doomsday994Meryl Smith / @MelXtreme84Daryn Kirscht / @darynkirscht16Dylan DiAntonioNick Ryan Magdoza / @nickryanEddie Bissell / @Kal_Ed11Jim ThomasClunk Kant / @clunkKantNicholas FanslerJohn LongRuth Anne CrewsTravis Kill / @tjkill81Mike ThomasNicholas CosoJarrett GibbsAnthony Anderson / @NigandNogJasmine Magele / @Jas mindaMT_NZKeith FaulsRob O'Connor / @TheGothamiteJames Hart / @jaohartsAnthony DesiatoCrystal CrossJake C.John SweitzerKirin KumarPATREON: patreon.com/alwaysmallvilleTWITTER: twitter.com/alwaysmallvilleFACEBOOK: facebook.com/alwaysmallvilleEMAIL: alwaysmallville@gmail.com

Chris and Jordan discuss the first three episodes of My Adventures with Superman Season 2! Lex has entered the fray, Jimmy's 5 million is dwindling and Superman finds out his Cousin is on Earth! They also spend some time on the Lantern creative team news as Tom King, Damon Lindelof and Chris Mundy are tapped to be involved with the show. They also dive into the news that Beck Bennett was cast as Steven Lombard in Superman (2025), and plans for Deathstroke in the DCU! WE HAVE A DISCORD!  Join it here: ⁠https://discord.com/invite/QfDYKZSUKG⁠ Follow the Show: Email: elseworldsdcfan@gmail.com Twitter: @elseworldsdcfan Facebook: Facebook.com/elseworldsdcfan Linktr.ee/elseworldsdcfan --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/infinitysagabeyond/message

The Avengers 5 formerly knows as The Kang Dynasty has had many rumored directors. The latest is Shawn Levy, director of Deadpool and Wolverine. Apparently Levy coul;d direct the new one. Not only that, it is rumored that there will be over 60 characters that could return to the film. Smart move? Too much? Superman has new casting in Beck Bennett, Green Lantern series has some updates. The Boys Season 4 is right around the corner and X-Men 97 will now be X-Men 00? This and more on this LIVe episode of Capes and Cowls with Kristian, Winston and Coy!

IF- a move what what may. e the best voice cast to date.  It's got some magic in it most won't see and Ryan Reynolds is fantastic as always.  This may not be a 10, but it's a movie you should see in the theater.  Enjoy it!     0:05:40 - Box Office and upcoming releases. 0:10:30 *** What's Streaming  *** NETFLIX THE JUDGE, Dir. David Dobkin – Robert Downy Jr, Robert Duval, Vera Farmiga, Billy Bob Thornton, Vincent D'Onofrio, Jeremy Strong, Dax Shepard, 2014. THE MITCHELLS VS THE MACHINES, Dir. Michael Riandra / Jeff Rowe – Abi Jacobson, Danny McBride, Maya Rudlph, Michael Rianda, Eric Andre, Olivia Coleman, Fred Armisen, Beck Bennett, 2021. 0:17:15 - Trailers:  I SAW THE TV GLOW – Justice Smith, Brigette Lundy-Paine, Feature. LONGING – Richard Gere, Diana Kruger, Jessica Clement, Feature YOU'RE CORDIALLY INVITED – Will Ferrell, Reese Witherspoon, Jack Breyer, Geraldine Viswanthan, Celia Watson, Feature.   0:30:00 - IF, Dir. John Krasinski  ( Grayson 5 / Chris 6 )   Hosted, produced and mixed by Grayson Maxwell and Roger Stillion.  Also hosted by Christopher Boughan.  Music by Chad Wall. Quality Assurance by Anthony Emmett. Visit the new Youtube channel, "For the Love of Cinema" to follow and support our short video discussions.  Please give a like and subscribe if you enjoy it.   Follow the show on Twitter @lovecinemapod and check out the Facebook page for updates.  Rate, subscribe and leave a comment or two.  Every Little bit helps.  Send us an email to fortheloveofcinemapodcast@gmail.com

This week Andrew and Ted sit down to share their SPOILER FREE" thoughts about the Netflix Original "Unfrosted" starring Jerry Seinfeld with repetitive appearances by Jim Gaffigan, Amy Schumer, Max Greenfield, Hugh Grant, and Sarah Cooper. Yet it goes on by having appearances by Christian Slater, James Marsden, Maria Bakalova, Bill Burr, Andy Daly, Rachael Harris, Kyle Dunnigan, Felix Solis, Thomas Lennon, Dan Levy, Jack McBrayer, Peter Dinklage, Jon Hamm, Dean Norris, Mikey Day, John Slattery, Bobby Moynihan, Sarah Burns, Beck Bennett, Cedric the Entertainer, Fred Armisen, Sebastian Maniscalco, Kyle Mooney, Tony Hale, and the list goes on and on. Lets just say a lot of comedic actors made payments toward their SAG/AFTRA health benefit contribution after this movie. You ask ... What is this movie about? Let me tell you! It's a fictitious account of the race between Kelloggs and Post to develop what is known today as the Pop Tart. That's it. So tune into see what Andrew and Ted thought about "Unfrosted".

Well, this week, we're hitting you with a MAMMOTH @EchoChamberFP https://www.instagram.com/echochamberfp/ it's a 'THREE Parter' baby!!! In 'Part ONE' we check the end of Escape Artists, Eagle Pictures & Sony Pictures Releasing action trilogy. There are two Australian joints, a heist tale from Sparke Films Productions & Rialto Distribution and a pared back sci-fi from Bonsai Films, XYZ Films, Blue Finch Films & Well Go USA Entertainment. We also get the story of the Pop-Tart via Netflix. PLUS, a heart jerking drama from Anti-Worlds Releasing, Alpha Violet & Vertigo Releasing. In 'Part One' we have: The Equalizer 3 Watch Review: Here. https://youtu.be/VjCNWBJquns Rome, World Premiere: 28th August 2023 Theatrical Release Date: 1st September 2023 US Digital Release Date: 1st January 2024 UK Digital Release Date: 3rd May 2024 Director: Antoine Fuqua Cast: Denzel Washington, Dakota Fanning, Eugenio Mastrandrea, David Denman, Gaia Scodellaro, Remo Girone, Andrea Scarduzio, Andrea Dodero, Daniele Perrone, Dea Lanzaro, Sonia Ben Ammar, Bruno Bilotta, Salvatore Ruocco, Alessandro Pess Running Time: 108 min Cert: 15 Trailer: Here. https://youtu.be/19ikl8vy4zs?si=EjQhn2XSedELfatw ---------------- Bring Him to Me Watch Review: Here. https://youtu.be/oHH1x5JsAsQ Oz Theatrical Release Date: 2nd November 2023 US Theatrical Release Date: 19th January 2024 US Digital Release Date: 19th January 2024 UK Digital Release Date: 3rd May 2024 Director: Luke Sparke Cast: Barry Pepper, Jamie Costa, Liam McIntyre, Zac Garred, Bryan Jennings Brower, Sam Neill, Rachel Griffiths, Alex Fleri, Marcus Johnson, Josemily Royle, Allison Frances Boyd, Harrison Irvin, Thomas Pitts Running Time: 96 min Cert: 15 Trailer: Here. https://youtu.be/E5AlSC7Fn-E?si=-nHSAT8atYy2HXSb ---------------- Monolith Watch Review: Here. https://youtu.be/HFaGoYBN5oo Adelaide Film Festival: 27th October 2022 Oz Theatrical Release Date: 26th October 2023 US Theatrical Release Date: 16th February 2024 US Digital Release Date: 16th February 2024 UK Digital Release Date: 4th May 2024 Director: Matt Vesely Cast: Lily Sullivan, Erik Thomson, Kate Box, Terence Crawford, Damon Herriman, Ling Cooper Tang, Ansuya Nathan, Matt Crook, Rashidi Edward, Brigid Zengeni, Belle Kalendra-Harding Running Time: 94 min Cert: 15 Trailer: Here. https://youtu.be/kwuJ4fs2-Fg?si=t9sBqZYwh-IFzSE- Website: Here. https://wellgousa.com/films/monolith ---------------- Unfrosted Watch Review: Here. https://youtu.be/otm6BN_GpYI Digital Release Date: 3rd May 2024 Director: Jerry Seinfeld Cast: Jerry Seinfeld, Melissa McCarthy, Jim Gaffigan, Max Greenfield, Hugh Grant, Amy Schumer, Peter Dinklage, Christian Slater, Bill Burr, Dan Levy, James Marsden, Jack McBrayer, Thomas Lennon, Bobby Moynihan, Adrian Martinez, Sarah Cooper, Mikey Day, Kyle Mooney, Drew Tarver, Tony Hale, Felix Solis, Maria Bakalova, Dean Norris, Kyle Dunnigan, Sebastian Maniscalco, Beck Bennett, Cedric the Entertainer, Fred Armisen, John Slattery, Jon Hamm, Aparna Nancherla, Andy Daly, Sarah Burns, Eleanor Sweeney, Bailey Sheetz Running Time: 93 min Cert: 12a Trailer: Here. https://youtu.be/2lqRPUhPfho?si=bu70FUyNjJdIzRWs Website: Here. https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/jerry-seinfeld-pop-tart-movie-cast ---------------- Hoard Watch Review: Here. https://youtu.be/JsBZT_1xdR0 Venice Film Festival: 1st September 2023 Preview Screenings Release Date: 10th - 16th May 2024 Buy Tickets: Here. https://whatson.bfi.org.uk/Online/default.asp Theatrical Release Date: 17th May 2024 Director: Luna Carmoon Cast: Saura Lightfoot Leon, Joseph Quinn, Hayley Squires, Lily-Beau Leach, Deba Hekmat, Samantha Spiro, Cathy Tyson, Erin Jemmotte, Sandra Hale, Alexis Tuttle, Nabil Elouahabi, Sam John, Sarah Rose Denton, James Cooper, Tim Bowie Running Time: 126 min Cert: 15 Trailer: Here. https://youtu.be/5mYoshmw1uo?si=IdCJDiILTcjxfOr- ---------------- *(Music) 'Da Joint' (Instrumental) by EPMD - 2020 --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/eftv/message

This week we dive into the animation wars to review a film that seemed doomed just two years ago. It features “revenge, torment, and good ‘ol general malfeasance” while boasting elements of “sci-fi, medieval fantasy, knights, lasers, monsters, dragons, dramatic lighting, and style.” It's the visually inventive, queer romance Netflix adventure film Nimona. Take a listen.Check us out on...Twitter @TSMoviePodFacebook: Time SensitiveInstagram: @timesensitivepodcastGrab some Merch at TeePublicBig Heads Media 

SURPRISINGLY DELIGHTFUL!! Visit http://www.liquidiv.com & use Promo Code: REJECTS Visit https://www.babbel.com/Rejects to save 55%! Sing Full Movie Reaction Watch Along: https://www.patreon.com/thereelrejects With Despicable Me 4 coming from Illumination / Universal (as well as Kung Fu Panda 4 & Garfield on the Horizon) we're giving our First Time Reaction, Commentary, Breakdown, & Spoiler Review for 2016's SING - Starring Matthew McConaughey (Interstellar, True Detective, Dallas Buyers Club), Reese Witherspoon (Legally Blonde, Election, Walk the Line), Seth MacFarlane (Ted, Family Guy, American Dad, The Orville), Scarlett Johansson (The Avengers, Black Widow, HER), John C. Riley (Walk Hard, Chicago, Talladega Nights, Step Brothers), Taron Egerton (Rocketman, Kingsman: The Secret Service, Eddie the Eagle), Tori Kelly (Sing 2, Jerry and Marge Go Large), Jennifer Hudson (Dreamgirls, Hairspray Live!, Cats), Nick Kroll (Big Mouth, Captain Underpants, Sausage Party), Peter Serafinowicz (The Tick, Shaun of the Dead, Guardians of the Galaxy), Nick Offerman (Parks and Recreation ), SNL alums Leslie Jones, Jay Pharaoh, Beck Bennett, & MORE! Written & Directed by Garth Jennings (Son of Rambow, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy), what we get is a delightful, animated ensemble jukebox musical! Roxy Striar and Ol' Johnald react to all the Best Scenes & Music Moments including the Shake it Off Scene, Meena Sings! Scene, Let Me Hear You Sing Scene, Johnny's Still Standing Scene / I'm Still Standing, Open the Doors Set It All Free Scene, I did it My Way Scene, Auditions Scene, Working at the Car Wash Scene, Singing Mouse Scene, $100,000 Prize Scene, Squid Power Scene, Buster's Car Wash Scene, & beyond! Should we continue to Sing 2 Next?? #Sing #SingMovie #Sing2016 #Illumination #AnimatedMovie #FirstTimeWatching #MovieReaction #MovieReactionFirstTimeWatching Follow Roxy Striar: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheWhirlGirls Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/roxystriar/... Twitter: https://twitter.com/roxystriar Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello! This February, we will be airing #TBT bonus material and re-releases of past episodes. Think of it as an exclusive walk down memory lane and very very cool. Be sure to subscribe and rate the podcast (how's that for rizz?!) See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

James and Kevin are lucky to be joined by Steve Trzaska (@stevetrzaska on Instragram) to discuss his amazing performance alongside Beck Bennett and Tim Robinson in "Friend Group." Steve in Marvel's Inhumans. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thats-a-chunky/support

The absolute beast, Beck Bennet, joins the Jons for a couple laps around East LA; Highland Park, Eagle Rock, the works. Beck came locked n loaded, he knows the show, he knows the vibe and he jumps in fully caffeinated. This episode holds a special place in this engineer's heart as the Jons drive very close to my house(ADU).

We're joined by the writer and director of the new film Office Race—starring Beck Bennett and Joel McHale—Jared Lapidus and James Kilmoon. We talk nipple balm and gaming the search function on the Comedy Central interface. Plus, Mike Pence is a perfectly uncharismatic Republican for this moment. And the triumphant return of the rapper Gunna is gunna happen this weekend. Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at thegist@mikepesca.com To advertise on the show, visit: https://advertisecast.com/TheGist Subscribe to The Gist Subscribe: https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/ Follow Mikes Substack at: Pesca Profundities | Mike Pesca | Substack Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ron Cheeks (Beck Bennett of SNL) joins Trey and Goldie to share a few of his wild experiences as a hospitality consultant and covers topics as diverse as scary hotel elevators, the difficulty of eating at a communal table and the coldest he's ever been.

Beck Bennett (SNL, Good Neighbor) joins the boys in studio this week. You're gonna learn all about step and repeats, Beck's stain game, and then Beck answers some of your submitted questions. For extended Poundcast episodes (Unzipped), subscribe on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/poundcast Follow The Poundcast on Instagram and Twitter @thepoundcast For video, check out: www.youtube.com/thepoundcast Join the Poundcast Discord here: discord.gg/GnqUMmX New Pound House "Dope Beats" Pins right here: https://www.rockinpins.com/product/pound-house-dope-beats-enamel-pin Thank you to our #sponsor Factor, for flavorful and nutritious ready-to-eat meals. Get 50% off at https://www.factormeals.com/poundcast50 And use the code word "POUNDCAST" at www.louisvilleveganfoods.com for, that's right, 20% off!

Last but certainly not least of our Nimona interviews is Eugene Lee Yang who chats about early representation (shout out to the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers), casting against type, and queer love stories. More about Nimona When Ballister Boldheart, a knight in a futuristic medieval world, is framed for a crime he didn't commit, the only one who can help him prove his innocence is Nimona, a mischievous teen with a taste for mayhem — who also happens to be a shapeshifting creature Ballister has been trained to destroy. But with the entire kingdom out to get him, Nimona's the best (or technically the only) sidekick Ballister can hope for. And as the lines between heroes, villains, and monsters start to blur, the two of them set out to wreak serious havoc — for Ballister to clear his name once and for all, and for Nimona to…just wreak serious havoc.    Directed by Nick Bruno and Troy Quane, NIMONA is an epic tale about finding friendship in the most surprising situations and accepting yourself and others for who they are. Based on the National Book Award-nominated, New York Times best-selling graphic novel by ND Stevenson. Starring: Chloë Grace Moretz, Riz Ahmed, Eugene Lee Yang, Frances Conroy, Lorraine Toussaint, Beck Bennett, Indya Moore, RuPaul Charles , Julio Torres, Sarah Sherman Nimona is out streaming now on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Netflix⁠⁠⁠⁠. Find us at⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.werewatchingwhat.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ THEDHK can be found at⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/thedhk ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠twitter.com/thedhk⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠facebook.com/thedhkmovies⁠

Academy Award winner Riz Ahmed drops in to discuss drive, bunk beds, Indiana Jones, and shifting goals. More about Nimona When Ballister Boldheart, a knight in a futuristic medieval world, is framed for a crime he didn't commit, the only one who can help him prove his innocence is Nimona, a mischievous teen with a taste for mayhem — who also happens to be a shapeshifting creature Ballister has been trained to destroy. But with the entire kingdom out to get him, Nimona's the best (or technically the only) sidekick Ballister can hope for. And as the lines between heroes, villains, and monsters start to blur, the two of them set out to wreak serious havoc — for Ballister to clear his name once and for all, and for Nimona to…just wreak serious havoc.    Directed by Nick Bruno and Troy Quane, NIMONA is an epic tale about finding friendship in the most surprising situations and accepting yourself and others for who they are. Based on the National Book Award-nominated, New York Times best-selling graphic novel by ND Stevenson. Starring: Chloë Grace Moretz, Riz Ahmed, Eugene Lee Yang, Frances Conroy, Lorraine Toussaint, Beck Bennett, Indya Moore, RuPaul Charles , Julio Torres, Sarah Sherman Nimona is out streaming now on ⁠⁠⁠Netflix⁠⁠⁠. Find us at⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.werewatchingwhat.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ THEDHK can be found at⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/thedhk ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠twitter.com/thedhk⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠facebook.com/thedhkmovies⁠

Nimona herself (aka Chloë Grace Moretz) is here to talk about the character, formative animated performances, and defying the odds in the film industry. More about Nimona When Ballister Boldheart, a knight in a futuristic medieval world, is framed for a crime he didn't commit, the only one who can help him prove his innocence is Nimona, a mischievous teen with a taste for mayhem — who also happens to be a shapeshifting creature Ballister has been trained to destroy. But with the entire kingdom out to get him, Nimona's the best (or technically the only) sidekick Ballister can hope for. And as the lines between heroes, villains, and monsters start to blur, the two of them set out to wreak serious havoc — for Ballister to clear his name once and for all, and for Nimona to…just wreak serious havoc.    Directed by Nick Bruno and Troy Quane, NIMONA is an epic tale about finding friendship in the most surprising situations and accepting yourself and others for who they are. Based on the National Book Award-nominated, New York Times best-selling graphic novel by ND Stevenson. Starring: Chloë Grace Moretz, Riz Ahmed, Eugene Lee Yang, Frances Conroy, Lorraine Toussaint, Beck Bennett, Indya Moore, RuPaul Charles , Julio Torres, Sarah Sherman Nimona is out streaming now on ⁠⁠Netflix⁠⁠. Find us at⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.werewatchingwhat.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ THEDHK can be found at⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/thedhk ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠twitter.com/thedhk⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠facebook.com/thedhkmovies⁠

ND Stevenson swings by to chat about the film adaptation of his comic, Nimona, a history of on-screen shapeshifters (we see you Animorphs and Zam Wesell), and fighting against being judged by first impressions. More about Nimona When Ballister Boldheart, a knight in a futuristic medieval world, is framed for a crime he didn't commit, the only one who can help him prove his innocence is Nimona, a mischievous teen with a taste for mayhem — who also happens to be a shapeshifting creature Ballister has been trained to destroy. But with the entire kingdom out to get him, Nimona's the best (or technically the only) sidekick Ballister can hope for. And as the lines between heroes, villains, and monsters start to blur, the two of them set out to wreak serious havoc — for Ballister to clear his name once and for all, and for Nimona to…just wreak serious havoc.    Directed by Nick Bruno and Troy Quane, NIMONA is an epic tale about finding friendship in the most surprising situations and accepting yourself and others for who they are. Based on the National Book Award-nominated, New York Times best-selling graphic novel by ND Stevenson. Starring: Chloë Grace Moretz, Riz Ahmed, Eugene Lee Yang, Frances Conroy, Lorraine Toussaint, Beck Bennett, Indya Moore, RuPaul Charles , Julio Torres, Sarah Sherman Nimona is out streaming now on Netflix. Find us at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.werewatchingwhat.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ THEDHK can be found at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/thedhk ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠twitter.com/thedhk⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠facebook.com/thedhkmovies⁠