Podcasts about deschooling society

Born in Vienna in 1926, Ivan Illich acted as a Roman Catholic priest, a theologian, a philosopher, and a radical social critic. He died in December 2002. His 1971 book Deschooling Society criticises modern society's institutional approach to education, an approach that constrains learning to narrow situations in a fairly short period of the human lifespan. His 1975 book Medical Nemesis argues that industrialised society widely impairs quality of life by overmedicalising life, pathologizing normal conditions, creating false dependency, and limiting other more healthful solutions. Illich called himself "a Wandering Jew and a Christian pilgrim" and we can find the core beliefs that held his intellectual wanderings together discussed in a more general form in his 1973 book Tools for Conviviality. In this episode Owen Kelly reads excerpts from Tools for Conviviality, a book he has returned to again and again, to make sense of the arguments that Illich proposes - while wondering how we can get there from here, a question that Illich himself dismisses.

Back in 1971, Ivan Illich wrote the groundbreaking book "Deschooling Society."  Illich didn't hold back in criticizing the traditional and mainstream approaches to education that we've all become familiar with. He also presented a clear and progressive vision for the future, which still holds weight even after five decades. Join us for part 2 of our book review, where we dive into Illich's ideas for a post-school society. His proposals of skill exchanges, peer networks, and resource sharing, align pretty well with the systems we have available today in 2023. And so we're left wondering why our current reality doesn't match Illich's vision. We hope you find this discussion interesting and perhaps it inspires some ideas for how the 3 types of school model in your school's context. If you are interested in establishing what kind of school context you are currently in, please take our 2 minute survey which can be found by clicking here.

In 1971 Ivan Illich wrote Deschooling Society, a text which was far ahead of its time.  Illich laid out a thorough critique of what we've called traditional and mainstream approaches to education. He also articulated a concrete progressive vision for moving forward. 50 years later his critique still holds weight.  In part 1 of our book review, we highlight the main components of his critique against schooling as it was in 1971 and still is in 2023. In this episode, we highlight what he calls the 4 myths of school and the 3 kinds of teachers. 

A love of learning!! Isn't that what every home-educating family is hoping they're able to instill in their children? Absolutely!!  Yet, many find that the act of doing school is actually hurting their relationships while having the opposite impact on their children. On this episode, David and Leslie will talk about what often hinders that love of learning and how we can overcome it in a way that will actually strengthen the relationships you care most about. In Leslie's new book, Heart School: How Amazing Parents Become Excellent Home Educators, she talks a little bit about how many are afraid that homeschooling will actually hurt their relationships with their children. In chapter 8 of that book, she encourages families, especially ones that are coming out of a different educational environment, that they may want to employ a deschooling strategy for a time. Deschooling is a term that Ivan Illich coined. He wrote a book in 1971 called Deschooling Society, where he was very critical of the institutional approach to education, which gives children a very narrow understanding of things and doesn't give details of both sides to consider. He noted that for many, "the right or appreciation of learning is curtailed by the obligation to attend school.” Topics Covered In This Episode: What "status quo" education looks like today. How education is defined and approached in today's environment. What a parent's goal for the education of their children should be. How deschooling can help parents achieve their goals while ushering in a way of approaching home education that brings freedom and confidence. How Deschooling can be a great tool for strengthening relationships at any point in your homeschool journey. How our previous discussion about wisdom comes into play in a discussion about Deschooling. (See episode 170 to learn about the Wisdom of Putting things Together.) Additional Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Heart School: How Amazing Parents Become Excellent Home Educators. The Heart School Master Class. Teach Them Diligently Homeschool Events.  Have you ever been to a Teach Them Diligently event? If not, it's hard to even encapsulate what you're missing out on! Fellowship, fun, encouragement, equipping, laughter, growth, education, and so much more await you there. What really sets Teach Them Diligently apart is a laser focus on lifting up Christ and the Kingdom importance of our work in our homes every single day. It's amazing what happens when a great variety of people come together with one goal-- to glorify Jesus within their homes and to teach their children diligently to love God and people and to prepare them to walk boldly through whatever door God opens for them in the days ahead. Featuring some of the best speakers in the homeschool arena along with thousands of resources to flip through, Teach Them Diligently events are the perfect cap of your homeschool year to encourage your heart, help you refocus on what's truly important, and then to get you ready for the year ahead. Get more details and secure your tickets: https://teachthemdiligently.net/homeschool-convention-locations/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The photographer, teacher and author Glenn K. Seki, Ed. D. talks to us about how to become an expert in Anything. Find his book at https://howtobecomethebest.com/ Notes added 2/11/23 I didn't want the world to remember him like that. [Glenn was the LMU photographer when Hank Gathers died on the court] https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/hank-gathers-death-college-basketball K Anders Ericsson [I would make a bad photojournalist] because I want to save the kid on fire. Companies should retrain injured employees for free. I learned to compensate. Make sure you have a plan B. Planning and Pre-focusing. Anticipation matters in photography You can only use one good eye for photography. Have an editor who can tell you “This Sucks, Start Over.” Glenn practiced action photography by following seagulls. Drive to get better. Takes deliberate practice with goals. Observe habits. You don't have to be born the best; you have to work at it. Persistence is the key. It depends on where you attribute failure. “Practicing Knowledge” Teach me how to tell someone to f-off and they say thank you. Education and Expertise don't go hand in hand. Be your own coach. Tom quoted the book “Deschooling Society” by Ivan Illitch. I just needed help cracking my chest. You're about to experience some discomfort. Automate Procedure Going on Auto-Pilot to a destination.

Michael Strong is the founder of a virtual school called The Socratic Experience, made for children aged 8-19 where they get a personalized and purpose-driven education cultivated to develop their unique genius. He is one of the most experienced designers of innovative school programs in the United States. In our conversation, we talk about Michael's vision for education in 20 years, deschooling society, Socratic questioning, the future of education and much more!Listen on Apple Podcasts or SpotifyTIMESTAMPS0:49 - Michael's vision for education5:03 - Ivan Illich's book Deschooling Society 8:00 - How to eliminate the need for credentialing 11:55 - Adding something to the education system won't help14:52 - Non-coercive boundaries for children 17:58- The Socratic method of questioning 27:08 - Gamifying learning29:32 - Reading + the difference between teaching and learning34:50 - How to scale alternative education so that it becomes the norm? + closing remarksMICHAEL'S LINKSTwitter: https://twitter.com/flowidealismThe Socratic Experience: https://socraticexperience.comARJUN'S LINKSTwitter: https://twitter.com/arjunkhemaniBlog: https://arjunkhemani.com This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.arjunkhemani.com

What does it mean to create convivial organisations and platforms? Today we explore the relationship between technology and society with L. M. Sacasas – and what we can learn from the philosopher Ivan Illich (1926-2002).  L. M. Sacasas is the associate director of the Christian Study Center of Gainesville, Florida and author of The Convivial Society, a newsletter about technology and society. Michael has written for The New Atlantis, The New Inquiry, Real Life Magazine, Mere Orthodoxy, Rhizomes, The American, and Second Nature Journal.    Ivan Illich was a philosopher, Roman Catholic priest, and critic of the institutions of modern Western culture, who addressed contemporary practices in education, medicine, work, energy use, transportation, and economic development.    In this episode, we explore what we mean by conviviality, having tools to empower – not de-skill – humans, the necessity of limits, re-envisioning the good life, and how Ivan Illich has such a big global following in today's society.      A full transcript of the episode can be found on our website: https://boundaryless.io/podcast/l-m-sacasas/   Key highlights we discussed: > The meaning of conviviality and the influence of Ivan Illich on L. M. Sacasas' work > The accuracy of Ivan Illich's predictions on mental health, education and work > Examples of convivial tools  > Identifying how to measure progress and where to aim better > Why the real world needs to embrace virtual reality      To find out more about Michael's work:   > Twitter: https://twitter.com/LMSacasas   >  The Convivial Society newsletter: https://theconvivialsociety.substack.com/      Other references and mentions:   > The Abolition of Institutions: On Ivan Illich with LM Sacasas and Nina Power: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast-episode/podcast//id1195362330?i=1000528978020 > Ivan Illich, Tools for Conviviality, 1973: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1842300113 > Ivan Illich, Deschooling Society, 1971: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deschooling_Society > Thinking After Ivan Illich: https://thinkingafterivanillich.net/ > David Chalmers, Reality+, 2022: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0393635805 > PD Smith, Reality+ by David J Chalmers review – are we living in a simulation?, https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/jan/19/reality-by-david-j-chalmers-review-are-we-living-in-a-simulation > Boundaryless Whitepaper, New Foundations of Platform-Ecosystem Thinking — Designing Products and Organizations for a changing world, 2020: https://platformdesigntoolkit.com/DOWNLOAD-NF Find out more about the show and the research at Boundaryless at https://boundaryless.io/resources/podcast/   Thanks for the ad-hoc music to Liosound / Walter Mobilio. Find his portfolio here: https://boundaryless.io/podcast-music   Recorded on 20 January 2022.

Our guest in this episode is curator, author, and educator Ana Devic. She is best known as a member of the curatorial collective What, How and for Whom (WHW). Formed in 1999, WHW is an exemplary case in the history of curatorial studies.Ana Devic is also in charge of the international study program for young artists called WHW Akademija based in Zagreb. With Ana, we'll further our exploration into other modes of engaging with artistic practice and hear about other possibilities, within and through art and politics. Her take on collectivity, as a spark rather than a value in and of itself; her emphasis on encounters and accessibility, and formal and informal modes of learning were really thought-provoking.EPISODE NOTES AND LINKSThis episode's conversation is part of the collaborative project ‘Communities of Learning, Bridging the Gap of Isolation', initiated by WHW and supported by the Culture of Solidarity Fund of the European Cultural Foundation.Ana Devic is a curator, writer, and teacher Ana Dević and a member of the curatorial collective What, How and from Whom (WHW). https://www.whw.hr/novosti/index.html#Formed in 1999, the curatorial collective What, How and for Whom (WHW) is an exemplary case in the history of curatorial studies. They were one of the pioneer groups who were influential in saving curatorial practice from going obsolete in a moment in which author curators (often white and male) reluctant to operate in plural forms were dominating the field of contemporary art. It's members are Ivet Ćurlin, Ana Dević, Nataša Ilić, Sabina Sabolović and designer and publicist Dejan Kršić. Based in Zagreb, WHW Academija is an international study program for young artists. The tuition-free academy takes up to 12 fellows per year intending to work on new forms of self-determination based on modes of critical reflection, curiosity, and encounters among artists, artworks, arts professionals, scholars, and practitioners. This program consists of a series of intensives, experimental exercises, workshops, and seminars, as well as a range of exhibitions, performances, and other forms of discursive programs. http://whw-akademija.whw.hr/about-whw/IRWIN is a highly influential artist collective, whose paintings, actions and installations played a crucial role in Balkan and Eastern European conceptual art, especially in the definitive era of 90's and the Post-Yugoslavian context. They were a part of NSK, along with the legendary band Laibach. https://www.irwin-nsk.org/about/Gezi Park Protests occurred in Turkey in 2013 to contest the urban development plan for Istanbul's Taksim Gezi Park. https://creativetimereports.org/2013/06/14/here-we-are-the-imagination-of-public-space-in-gezi-park/Christine Tohme is a curator and the founding director of Ashkal Alwan. The Home Workspace Program is a tuition-free annual arts study program targeting emerging artists and cultural practitioners wishing to develop their critical skills and practice in a supportive environment in Beirut. https://ashkalalwan.org/about.php#Mladen Stilinović (1947-2016) was a conceptual artist and one of the leading figures of the so-called "New Art Practice" in Croatia.Sanja Iveković is a photographer, performer, sculptor and installation artist.Tomislav Gotovac (1937-2010) was a film director, actor, performer, multimedia and conceptual artist.Goran Trbuljak is a cinematographer, photographer and conceptual artist.Decolonizing Architecture Art Research (DAAR) is an artistic practice situated between architecture, art, pedagogy and politics in the struggle for justice and equality http://www.decolonizing.ps/site/about/Alessandro Petti is an architect and researcher. He is one of the cofounders of DAAR.Sandi Hilal is an architect and researcher. She is one of the cofounders of DAAR.Conducted by Sandi Hilal and Alessandro Petti, The Tree School is a place where people can gather for communal learning and the production of knowledge grounded in lived experience and connected to communities. http://www.decolonizing.ps/site/the-tree-school/The artist group Etcetera Collective, was founded by Loreto Garín Guzmán and Federico Zukerfeld in 1997. In 2005 they founded Fundación del Movimiento Internacional Errorista (International Errorist Movement Foundation) with other artists and activists which seeks to consolidate error as a life philosophy.Known for his seminal pedagogical work Deschooling Society, Ivan Dominic Illich (1926 - 2002) was a priest, theologian, philosopher, and social critic.The Alternative Art School (TAAS) is an affordable learning program run by a stellar faculty offering intimate class sizes. TAAS emphasizes group work, community building, and dynamic modes of socializing and art-making. www.thealternativeartschool.net/how-it-works-1RAW Académie is an experimental residential program for the research and study of artistic and curatorial practice and thought in Dakar. http://www.rawmaterialcompany.org/_RAW_Academy?lang=enDAI ROAMING ACADEMY, is an itinerant program that fosters a variety of praxes at the intersections of art and theory (both seen as un-disciplines), and invigorates (collective) thinking, researching, performing, curating, writing, voicing, making and publishing. https://dutchartinstitute.eu/program/aboutThe Nuova Accademia di Belle Arti, "New Academy of Fine Arts", also known as NABA, is a privately run university in Milan.Marco Scotini is a curator, researcher, teacher, and writer.Decentralized Autonomous Organization (DAO) is a type of organization represented by rules encoded as a computer program that is transparent, controlled by the organization members, and not influenced by a central government.Pirate Care is a transnational research project and a network of activists, scholars, and practitioners who stand against the criminalization of solidarity & for a common care infrastructure. https://pirate.care/pages/concept/Memory of the World/Public Library is a case for the institution of public library and its principle of universal access to knowledge. https://www.memoryoftheworld.org/blog/2015/05/27/repertorium_public_library/Curated by WHW in 2014, “Really Useful Knowledge” was an exhibition that had taken place at Reina Sofia, Madrid which sought to highlight the collective utilization of public resources, activities, and experiments, either forgotten or under threat of eradication, taking the museum as a pedagogical site devoted to the analysis of artistic forms interconnected with actual or desired social relations. https://www.museoreinasofia.es/en/exhibitions/really-useful-knowledgeNato Thompson is an author, curator, and self-proclaimed “cultural infrastructure builder”. Nato was also the guest of Ahali Conversations Episode 18: https://www.ahali.space/episodes/episode-18-nato-thompsonSound.xyz is a startup aiming to support recording artists to monetize their projects through NFTs. https://www.sound.xyz/PleasrDAO is a decentralized autonomous organization that purchases and collects work that is relevant to the digital and crypto culture. https://pleasr.org/terra0 is an evolving prototype built on the Ethereum network that aims to provide automated ecosystem resilience frameworks. https://terra0.org/Black Swan is an experimental digital initiative designed to eat the art world by channeling resources from established institutions to cultural practitioners. https://www.goethe.de/ins/gb/en/kul/zut/dao/dab.htmlTor, short for The Onion Router, is free and open-source software for enabling anonymous communication. https://www.torproject.orgPeter Lamborn Wilson aka Hakim Bey is an anarchist author and poet, primarily known for his concept of Temporary Autonomous Zones, short-lived spaces which elude formal structures of control. https://www.amazon.com/TAZ-Temporary-Autonomous-Ontological-Autonomedia/dp/1570271518https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/hakim-bey-t-a-z-the-temporary-autonomous-zone-ontological-anarchy-poetic-terrorismEpisode recorded on Zoom in December 2021. Interview by Can Altay. Produced by Aslı Altay & Sarp Renk Özer. Music by Grup Ses.

In this episode we are joined by Professor Seamus O'Mahony. Seamus is a doctor and prize-winning author. He worked for many years in the NHS, returning to his native city of Cork in 2001, where he was a gastroenterologist and clinical professor until February 2020. His first book The Way We Die Now won the British Medical Association's council chair's choice award in 2017. His second book Can Medicine be Cured?  was published in 2019, and his latest book The Ministry of Bodies was published by Head of Zeus in March 2021. He is a regular contributor to the Dublin Review of Books and the Medical Independent. He has written also for The Observer, the Irish Times, the Irish Independent, and the Saturday Evening Post. He is a member of the Lancet commission on “The Value of Death” and is visiting professor at the Centre for the Humanities and Health at King's College London. In this episode, we discuss Seamus's work around academia in science and medicine and aspects of death in our culture. Here are some links to items or people we discussed Robert Maxwell and academic journals https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell The Lancet Commission on death https://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/lancet/PIIS0140-6736(18)32388-2.pdf The McNamara fallacy https://mcnamarafallacy.com/   Documentary, The Fog of War  https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317910/ watch here for free https://vimeo.com/434235852 Inverse care law https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse_care_law The book called “To be a machine” https://granta.com/products/to-be-a-machine/ The Peril of Politicizing Science – A Scientist's Take http://iopenshell.usc.edu/pubs/pdf/jpcl_opinion_2021.pdf?ref=brianlovin.com What is medical humanities https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_humanities Ivan Dominic Illich was a Roman Catholic priest, theologian, philosopher, and social critic.[1] His 1971 book Deschooling Society criticizes modern society's institutional approach to education, an approach that constrains learning to narrow situations in a fairly short period of the human lifespan. His 1975 book Medical Nemesis, importing to the sociology of medicine the concept of medical harm, argues that industrialized society widely impairs quality of life by over medicalizing life, pathologizing normal conditions, creating false dependency, and limiting other more healthful solutions. https://journals.psu.edu/illichstudies/about Free article on his work medical nemesis https://jech.bmj.com/content/57/12/919   Books by Seamus The way we die https://seamusomahony.com/books/the-way-we-die-now/ Can medicine be cured? https://seamusomahony.com/books/can-medicine-be-cured/ Seamus will be coming back in February or March to discuss the Lancet report on the value of death. Contact Seamus or find out more at https://seamusomahony.com/ Check us out at www.learningtodie.com.au  for all episodes and links to the YouTube video versions. The YouTube version of this episode has a video and some slides. Contact us at ian@learningtodie.com.au   or ciaran@learningtodie.com.au  

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Nina Power is a cultural critic, social theorist, philosopher, author, and translator. Her upcoming book, “What Men What” is forthcoming later this year. Take the Illitch course from Nina herself at https://Illitchcourse.com Use coupon code AGORA to get 30% off! We discuss the works of Roman Catholic priest, theologian, philosopher, and social critic, Ivan Illitch, covering some of his most famous works such as Deschooling Society, Medical Nemesis, & Tools for Conviviality, we also discuss learning networks, social media & the state, iatrogenic harm and the medical-industrial complex, sex, gender, and economic neutering, and Illitch's conceptions of conviviality, austerity and eutrapelia. - Agora Politics is a podcast dedicated to making sense out of our outdated theories of politics. I'm Alex Murshak, political theorist. Subscribe to my channel for videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSDjdhAe9Z7EatYg3OGLKug Follow Agora Politics on Twitter: https://twitter.com/agora_politics/ Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/amurshak/ — Subscribe on: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSDjdhAe9Z7EatYg3OGLKug Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/agora-politics/id1496531814 Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/agora_politics Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5xfgHAlhswC6PWlTZC5S58?si=fY-OxZqASPWtxFnAqyLCbg Wherever you find your podcasts

What is deschooling? Why would I want to deschool my kids? What's the difference between unschooling and deschooling? What is Deschooling Society about and who is Ivan Illich? This episode is your introduction to the what, when, where, why, and who of deschooling.   Search this episode, get the links and more at https://homeschoolthinktank.com/deschooling/

Saatekülalised Signe Mällo ja Tanel Mällo. Saatejuht Hardo Pajula. Saade haridusest. "Nendes esseedes näitan ma, et väärtuste bürokratiseerumine põhjustab paratamatult füüsilist reostust, ühiskondlikku polariseerumist ja psühholoogilist abitust — need on üleilmse allakäigu ja moderniseeritud viletsuse kolm aspekti," kirjutab Ivan Illich [1] oma 1971. aastal ilmunud raamatu "Deschooling Society" [2] esimeses peatükis "Why We Must Disestablish School".Mina avastasin Illichi tänu John Grayle [3]. "Inimeses ja loomas" [4] on alapeatükk "Totaalne sõda surmaga" kus ma tsiteerin Illichi teist tähtteost 1975. aastal ilmunud raamatut "Limits to Medicine: Medical Nemesis, the Expropriation of Health" [5]: "Me ei suuda mõista oma sügavalt sissejuurdunud ühiskonnakorralduse kriitilisi elemente, kui me ei käsitle neid kurja surma kõikide vormide igakülgse eksortsismina. Meie tähtsamad institutsioonid on hiiglaslikud kaitserajatised "inimkonna" nimel peetavas sõjas surma kõikvõimalike põhjuste vastu. See on totaalne sõda."Teiste sõnadega — Ivan Illich on äärmiselt ajakohane mõtleja. Ja kuivõrd see on nii siis me pöördume ta juurde selles sarjas loodetavasti veel tagasi. Möödunud reedel tegime aga otsa lahti. Mu stuudiokülalisteks olid Signe ja Tanel Mällo kes koos oma viie tubli tütrega aitavad koolil jõudumööda kuhtuda. Suurema osa sellest tööst teeb ära muidugi distantsõpe aga eks tähtis on igaühe panus. Head uudistamist! H. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Illich [2] https://www.amazon.com/Deschooling-Society-Open-Forum-S-ebook/dp/B007EDLBBI/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1622012268&sr=8-1 [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GDmShNiWOI&list=PLhpEK-_b7mfEM3LsE740RRFKJuOC9WGog&index=14 [4] https://www.apollo.ee/majanduslik-inimene-ja-poliitiline-loom.html [5] https://www.amazon.com/Limits-Medicine-Medical-Nemesis-Expropriation-ebook/dp/B007Y5IX30/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1622012686&sr=8-1

Saatekülalised Signe Mällo ja Tanel Mällo. Saatejuht Hardo Pajula. Saade haridusest. "Nendes esseedes näitan ma, et väärtuste bürokratiseerumine põhjustab paratamatult füüsilist reostust, ühiskondlikku polariseerumist ja psühholoogilist abitust — need on üleilmse allakäigu ja moderniseeritud viletsuse kolm aspekti," kirjutab Ivan Illich [1] oma 1971. aastal ilmunud raamatu "Deschooling Society" [2] esimeses peatükis "Why We Must Disestablish School".Mina avastasin Illichi tänu John Grayle [3]. "Inimeses ja loomas" [4] on alapeatükk "Totaalne sõda surmaga" kus ma tsiteerin Illichi teist tähtteost 1975. aastal ilmunud raamatut "Limits to Medicine: Medical Nemesis, the Expropriation of Health" [5]: "Me ei suuda mõista oma sügavalt sissejuurdunud ühiskonnakorralduse kriitilisi elemente, kui me ei käsitle neid kurja surma kõikide vormide igakülgse eksortsismina. Meie tähtsamad institutsioonid on hiiglaslikud kaitserajatised "inimkonna" nimel peetavas sõjas surma kõikvõimalike põhjuste vastu. See on totaalne sõda."Teiste sõnadega — Ivan Illich on äärmiselt ajakohane mõtleja. Ja kuivõrd see on nii siis me pöördume ta juurde selles sarjas loodetavasti veel tagasi. Möödunud reedel tegime aga otsa lahti. Mu stuudiokülalisteks olid Signe ja Tanel Mällo kes koos oma viie tubli tütrega aitavad koolil jõudumööda kuhtuda. Suurema osa sellest tööst teeb ära muidugi distantsõpe aga eks tähtis on igaühe panus. Head uudistamist! H. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Illich [2] https://www.amazon.com/Deschooling-Society-Open-Forum-S-ebook/dp/B007EDLBBI/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1622012268&sr=8-1 [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GDmShNiWOI&list=PLhpEK-_b7mfEM3LsE740RRFKJuOC9WGog&index=14 [4] https://www.apollo.ee/majanduslik-inimene-ja-poliitiline-loom.html [5] https://www.amazon.com/Limits-Medicine-Medical-Nemesis-Expropriation-ebook/dp/B007Y5IX30/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1622012686&sr=8-1

Saatekülalised Signe Mällo ja Tanel Mällo. Saatejuht Hardo Pajula. Saade haridusest. “Nendes esseedes näitan ma, et väärtuste bürokratiseerumine põhjustab paratamatult füüsilist reostust, ühiskondlikku polariseerumist ja psühholoogilist abitust — need on üleilmse allakäigu ja moderniseeritud viletsuse kolm aspekti,” kirjutab Ivan Illich [1] oma 1971. aastal ilmunud raamatu “Deschooling Society” [2] esimeses peatükis “Why We Must Disestablish […]

"Nendes esseedes näitan ma, et väärtuste bürokratiseerumine põhjustab paratamatult füüsilist reostust, ühiskondlikku polariseerumist ja psühholoogilist abitust — need on üleilmse allakäigu ja moderniseeritud viletsuse kolm aspekti," kirjutab Ivan Illich [1] oma 1971. aastal ilmunud raamatu "Deschooling Society" [2] esimeses peatükis "Why We Must Disestablish School".Mina avastasin Illichi tänu John Grayle [3]. "Inimeses ja loomas" [4] on alapeatükk "Totaalne sõda surmaga", kus ma tsiteerin Illichi teist tähtteost, 1975. aastal ilmunud raamatut "Limits to Medicine: Medical Nemesis, the Expropriation of Health" [5]: "Me ei suuda mõista oma sügavalt sissejuurdunud ühiskonnakorralduse kriitilisi elemente, kui me ei käsitle neid kurja surma kõikide vormide igakülgse eksortsismina. Meie tähtsamad institutsioonid on hiiglaslikud kaitserajatised "inimkonna" nimel peetavas sõjas surma kõikvõimalike põhjuste vastu. See on totaalne sõda."Teiste sõnadega — Ivan Illich on äärmiselt ajakohane mõtleja. Ja kuivõrd see on nii, siis me pöördume ta juurde selles sarjas loodetavasti veel tagasi. Möödunud reedel tegime aga otsa lahti. Mu stuudiokülalisteks olid Signe ja Tanel Mällo, kes koos oma viie tubli tütrega aitavad koolil jõudumööda kuhtuda. Suurema osa sellest tööst teeb ära muidugi distantsõpe, aga eks tähtis on igaühe panus.Head uudistamist!H.[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Illich[2] https://www.amazon.com/Deschooling-Society-Open-Forum-S-ebook/dp/B007EDLBBI/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1622012268&sr=8-1[3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GDmShNiWOI&list=PLhpEK-_b7mfEM3LsE740RRFKJuOC9WGog&index=14[4] https://www.apollo.ee/majanduslik-inimene-ja-poliitiline-loom.html[5] https://www.amazon.com/Limits-Medicine-Medical-Nemesis-Expropriation-ebook/dp/B007Y5IX30/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1622012686&sr=8-1 See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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David Gagnon is a researcher at the Wisconsin Center for Education Research and the director of the learning research lab Field Day at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. Over the course of our conversation, we hammer out a definition of learning, discuss David's work creating educational video games for elementary school students, and talk about how to create environments that foster experimentation, curiosity, and, ultimately, growth. During the episode, we touched on: - Learning—what is it? What isn't it? - Dave's social constructivist approach to learning - Literacy—what does it mean today? And the New London Group's multiliteracy manifesto - Using video games for learning (e.g., Jo Wilder and the Capitol Case created by David's research lab) - The desire—in business, in education—to be right all the time… even when being “wrong” fosters learning - The Lean Startup: How Today's Entrepreneurs Use Continuous Innovation to Create Radically Successful Businesses (2011) by Eric Reis - The humility that can come from having an understanding of complex, complicated systems - If it's possible to go overboard with radical transparency when working with outside partners? - Deschooling Society (1971) by the radical Catholic priest Ivan Illich - Attending to participants' feelings when navigating organizational change… and how artists and storytellers can lead the way

This is the third session of Mike Sacasas's director's class on the life and work of Ivan Illich. The topic of this class is Illich's best known book, Deschooling Society. If you'd like to join the Tuesday afternoon class live on Zoom, please email Mike at mike@christianstudycenter.org. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit christianstudycenter.substack.com

Over the past couple of months, believing that Ivan Illich’s thought indeed spoke with renewed urgency to our moment, I’ve revisited two of his earliest and best known books, Tools for Conviviality and Deschooling Society. Three key themes caught my attention this time around and I thought it might be useful to discuss them here, even if only briefly.  Get full access to The Convivial Society at theconvivialsociety.substack.com/subscribe

These are exactly the times to rethink education because what is happening right now is showing us that just staying with the normal won’t do! Together with the Art education as Critical Tactics team of ArtEZ we bring you: No School Station, a four part miniseries on education outside of the educational institutions. This episode features contributions by Fabiola Camuti, Jeroen Lutters,  Mirthe Dokter and Tim Hammer. Sit back, close your eyes and connect.   Works cited or mentioned:Antonio Gramsci, “On Education,” in Selections from the Prison Notebooks. Translated and Edited by Q. Hoare and G. N. Smith. New York: International Publishers, 1971, pp. 24-43. Ivan Illich, Deschooling Society (new edition). London: Maryon Boyers Publishers, 2000. Thomas Kuhn, The Strucure of Scientific Revolutions (50th anniversary editition). Chicago: The Chicago University Press, 2012. Meadow, D. e.a., The Limits to Growth; a report for the club of Rome’s project on the predicament of mankind. New York: Universe Books, 1972. Links:Professorship Art education as Critical Tactics with Bio of contributors (Fabiola and Jeroen): https://www.artez.nl/en/research/education-in-arts-and-culture-professorship No School: http://noschool.nl Tim Hammer: https://denieuweoost.nl/maker/tim-hammer/ Mirthe Dokter: http://www.mirthedokter.nl/ Mauro Casarini: https://www.instagram.com/mcasarini/

Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/theoryandphilosophyIn this episode, I'm joined by PhD student, Andrew Woods, once again to discuss Ivan Illich's "Deschooling Society." We draw some fundamental distinctions between Illich's approach and those espoused by contemporary conservative thinkers in the effort to dismantle schools.

Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/theoryandphilosophyIn this episode, Andrew and I continue our exploration of Illich's "Deschooling Society," setting our focus on the idea of an Epimethean Accelerationism.

Unschooling And…Its Origins Kerry McDonald   Many people believe that unschooling began with John Holt. While it is most certainly true that John Holt coined the term “unschooling” in the late-1970s as part of his work in the emerging modern homeschooling movement, the philosophical roots of unschooling and Self-Directed Education go back centuries. This is not some new-age idea.    John Locke, Some Thoughts Concerning Education (1693) “For a child will learn three times as much when he is in tune, as he will with double the time and pains when he goes awkwardly or is dragg'd unwillingly to it.”    Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Emile, or On Education (1762) "Everything is good as it leaves the hands of the author of things and everything degenerates in the hands of man.”   Sidney Hook (1971): “Only those unfamiliar with Dewey’s work can believe that he rejects the active role of the teacher in planning the classroom experience by properly organized subject matters.” - "John Dewey and His Betrayers." Change 3, no. 7: 26.    Ronald Swartz, From Socrates to Summerhill and Beyond (2016)   A.S. Neill (Alexander Sutherland Neill), Summerhill School: A New View of Childhood (1960); Freedom, Not License! (1966)   Paul Goodman, Compulsory Mis-education and the Community of Scholars (1964)   John Holt, How Children Fail (1964), How Children Learn (1967), Teach Your Own (1981)   Ivan Illich, Deschooling Society (1970)

I denne episoden har Pål tatt ut pappaperm og Lars har tatt turen til filosofisk institutt på Blindern for å slå av en prat med en annen kognitiv bajas, Ole Martin Moen. Vi snakker om hans artikkel Fremtidsskolen (publisert i Dagbladet, 12.februar i år), og går derfra innom en rekke temaer, som livsmestring, nysgjerrighet og læring, om å endre mening og å faktisk ha lyst til å ta inn over seg gode argumenter, på tross av vår stae tilbøyelighet til det motsatte. Episoden er kanskje lang, men det er vel egentlig et eksperiment for å se hva som skjer når man forsøker å ha en noenlunde fokusert samtale over tid, som kan lede til noen gode og uforutsette tanker. Vi synes samtalen bla ganske så fin, og håper at noe av stemningen smitter over på dere som lytter. Om den gjør det eller ei, gi oss gjerne tilbakemeldinger, på facebooksiden vår, på larsogpaal@gmail.com, eller på Itunes! Samtalene våre blitt ikke bedre enn hva vi sammen gjør dem til, så ta dette som en oppfordring. I episoden nevnes en masse bøker, podkaster og annet. For å gjøre det litt enkelt for deg har vi laget en liste:   Podkaster: Dialogisk (podkasten til Gunnar Tjomlid og Dag Sørås, anbefales for flere trivelige samtaler, og særlig episoden hvor Ole Martin snakker om skole) Moralistene (Ole Martins podkast, som han lager sammen med Aksel Braanen Sterri) EconTalk (en av Ole Martins anbefalinger) Common sense (podkasten Dan Carlin lager i tillegg til Hardcore History) Bøker og artikler: Stuart Firestein, Ignorance. How it drives science, 2012 (Evt start med TED-talken hans om samme tema) Ole Martin Moen, «Fremtidsskolen», Dagbladet 12.februar, 2018 Nils Christie, Hvis skolen ikke fantes, 1968 Daniel Kahneman Thinking. Fast and slow, 2011 Ivan Illich, Deschooling Society, 1971 Alison Wolf, Does education matter?: Myths about education and economic growth, 2002 Joshua Rothman, “Daniel Dennett’s science of the soul. A philosopher’s lifelong quest to understand the making of the mind”, The New Yorker, March 27, 2017 George Leonard, Education and ecstacy, 1968 Sam Harris, Lying, 2011 Jonathan Haidt, The righteous mind. Why good people are divided by politics and religion, 2012 Alle Ole Martins artikler finner du på olemartinmoen.com   ------------------ Logoen vår er laget av Sveinung Sudbø, se hans arbeider på originalkopi.com Musikken er av Arne Kjelsrud Mathisen, se facebooksiden Nygrenda Vev og Dur for mer info. Forresten, det helt på slutten skal Arne slippe å få skylden for, det er fra et øvingslokale en gang for lenge, lenge siden. ---------------------------- Da var vi i mål! Takk for at du hører på, og takk takk om du deler og kanskje sies hva du synes om hele greia. Og takk til Ole Martin for en kjekk samtale! Alt godt!

In his book Deschooling Society (1971), Ivan Illich briefly alluded to a class of words "so flexible that they cease to be useful." "Like an amoeba," he said, "they fit into almost any interstice of the language." Two years later, in Tools for Conviviality, Illich wrote that language had come to "reflect the monopoly of the industrial mode of production over perception and motivation." He urged " rediscovery of language" as a personal and poetic medium. But Illich made no detailed analysis of how language had been industrialized. Then, in 1981, he became one of the first group of fellows at the new Wissenschaftkolleg, or Institute for Advanced Studies in Berlin. Among his colleagues was Uwe Pörksen, a professor of German literature from the University of Freiburg. The two became friends, and one of the things they discussed was the empty word husks that Illich had first called amoebas. Pörksen renamed them plastic words and undertook a detailed study of the phenomenon, Seven years later in 1988, he published Plastikwörter: Die Sprache einer Internationalen Diktatur (The Language of an International Dictatorship.)Pörksen argued that plastic words are not merely the clichés, slogans and hackneyed expressions against which commentators like George Orwell ("Politics and the English Language") or James Thurber ("The Psychosemanticist Will See You Now, Mr. Thurber") had railed. They form a distinct class, numbering not many more than thirty or forty. The list includes obviously puffed up words like communication, sexuality, and information, but also less obtrusive terms like problem, factor, and role. Together, Pörksen says, they compose a Lego-like, modular lingo which bulldozes all the merely local and historical features of language and paves the way to the shining city of universal development. I learned of Pörksen's work from Illich, when I went to State College, Pennsylvania to record interviews with Illich in 1988. At the time, it had briefly become the playful custom in his household to ostentatiously clear one's throat whenever one found it necessary to pronounce a plastic word. I was intrigued and eager to present Pörksen's research to my Canadian radio audience, but there were several problems: his book wasn't translated, I didn't speak German, and Pörksen had only limited English. My German-born wife, Jutta Mason, solved the first problem by making a rough translation of the German text, and, in time, as we got to know each other, Uwe agreed to attempt the interview. It was recorded in Barbara Duden's house in Bremen in 1992. Jutta joined us, to boost Uwe's confidence and help with translation as needed, but, in the event, the occasion seemed to inspire a rudimentary but powerful eloquence in Uwe, and no translation was needed.The edited interview, which follows, was broadcast on Ideas early in 1993. Jutta's translation also became the basis for an English edition, pictured above, of Plastic Words. Uwe came and stayed with us for a week in Toronto, and he and Jutta and I together worked over the English text, until it was ready for publication by the Penn State Press in 1995. Good reviews never led to much of a readership for a book that I think deserves to be better known, but it remains available.

We make no claim to know everything. But what we do know is there is change happening in the education system, both good and bad, and the options are limited but simple: You can either fight it or you can figure out a way to positively affect that change. Adam and Patrick sit down to discuss not just some of the changes that are currently happening and why, but also to discuss how and why we here at MakingComics.com plan on being part of that change. To some our goals may seem lofty. To us, it's an opportunity to assist in making a difference and learning in an artistic and creative manner. Click play or download this week's Gutter Talk episode to understand why we feel that is so important and worth the effort. Interesting Links: Patrick Yurick's Portfolio (Follow him @patrickyurick) Broken Airplane A Nation at Risk, article Patrick mentioned Adam Greenfield (@SDGreeny) Also Interesting Links: The artist Chikle Tabula Rasa "Beautiful Brain" an article on updates to neuroscience on the evolution of the teenage brain put out by National Geographic Magazine Maslow's Hierarchy Of Needs: Further Readings: "We Make the Road By Walking: Conversations On Education And Social Change" by Myles Horton & Paulo Friere "Pedagogy Of The Oppressed" by Paulo Friere "No More Secondhand Art: Awakening The Artist Within" by Peter London "Deschooling Society" Ivan Illich Videos to check out: "The Tribes We Lead" by Seth Godin "Did You Know?" by Karl Fisch & Scott McCloud Intro & Outro Song: "RetroFuture Clean" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)  Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0  http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Outro Song Behind Vocals: "Backed Vibes (clean)" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)  Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0  http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Transitions: InceptionBrassHitMedium.wav: Herbert Boland / www.freesound.org Old Fashion Radio Jingle 2.wav: club sound / www.freesound.org