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http://convocourses.com   All right. I'm testing a new platform called stream yard, and this is convocourse's podcast. I'm gonna do about, I don't know, 20, 30 minutes to test this out and also to inform you guys of  a career move I recently made. I haven't really talked about this.  But about three months ago I was working as a cybersecurity consultant and that's much different from an information system, security officer. So in the past, Three four months.  I made a big Mo well, not really a big move. I I've, it's not a big move for me.  I've done both jobs before, but all I want to do is  compare the two kind of give you an idea of  what the differences are between  cyber security consultant. And what I'm going to be doing with information system security officer work, and  what's the daily life of both of those things. How do they compare and give you an idea of  which one you should choose before I start, you should know that  I own a site called combo courses where I teach cyber security compliance and  how to get in this field as a cyber security person. I've been doing this for 20 years, doing cyber security in  all forms of security, as well as some it information technology stuff  like being a system admin or network. Administrators, stuff like that. I've done a little bit of all that stuff.  But my specialty is really in security compliance. And so that's what I teach people to do. And. People ask me on YouTube, on, on TikTok questions. And I'll just go ahead and answer them and by the way, if you have any questions during this feel free to ask them and I'll do my best to answer. them sometimes we have such a great community that they'll actually answer the questions on my behalf. There're things I don't know. So, somebody, some other subject matter expert will jump in and then answer those questions and. My favorite times on this, on convo courses, because that's what convo courses in my mind is all about is about the community and us coming together, figuring things out. Okay. So, I wanted to tell you recently I made a huge move. I was working at a major telecommunications company that does cybersecurity on the side. They have a branch that does cybersecurity and    I did it because it was a great opportunity. One of my former coworkers.  Gave me a they referred me and brought me into the company. It was a great company. They had great benefits. It was some of the best benefits I've had outside the military.  It was decent pay and the only, probably bad thing was that there was a lot of travel and that eventually was the thing that got me out of there. And it was stressful too. And I was how having too many personal issues that happened at that at the time that I was working there, I worked for there for about two and a half, three years, and I was doing cyber security consulting for them. So, what we would do is we would. We bring our expertise to smaller companies.  We go to, and it's a lot of companies and banks and hospitals and healthcare industries that you probably use to be honest with you.  that? I Some of I was surprised were like, damn, I use this. We're doing security compliance for them. And   the security compliance it wasn't just security compliance.  It was basically, we would do a bunch of We would do a bunch of risk assessments and those risk assessments would be things like be we had 15… different risk assessments. So, 12, 12 to 15 different risk assessments, depending on what they chose. So we would do things like physical security assessments we would do. Of course, network security assessments. There was like three of those. We did cloud-based security assessments. We did…  We did wireless security assessments. We take all of those and we would give them an overall view of what their security looks like. And then we would prioritize where their major risks were. And then we would talk to the sea level or director or upper-level management to say, hey, this is where you should focus your energy because this is where we see the most risk. And the purpose of that was to reduce their. Their security any kind of vulnerabilities they have, and they can focus all their time, money, and energy and resources to that highest level of risk in their organization. That's what I was doing. And it wasn't too bad. I actually liked it.      I fit right in over there. The only I, we would do these reports, which were really easy for me, the. Challenging thing I found was sometimes the clients were a bit difficult to work with and it wasn't that they didn't know what they were doing or something like that. It was just very high strung because cybersecurity.  It could be very stressful because you're dealing with you.   If you have a vulnerability, a major vulnerability and you have to take that to the C CEO and say, Hey, we have. We have a bunch of legacy systems that are   in this area here, there's a lot of stress because you don't want to be the person that to, to barer of bad news, and we'd find those things and we'd say, Hey. You have this stuff going on. And there was just a lot of stress with that.  That's probably the hardest part of the whole thing.  The travel wouldn't have been a big deal if I hadn't had so many personal issues happening with my family, kids and everything that just all happened at once. So, I had to unfortunately had to leave because I actually really loved the people and everything. What did my daily life look like?     We were mostly going off east coast time for me, because that's where most of my clients were. They'd give us like two or three clients.  And then you would work directly with them. So, most of your day was coordinating.  The scans and the assessments that you'd have to do, if you had to go to their site, you'd have to coordinate that. And they expect you to go do that on your own.  It was very self-directed where it's you have the client, like you'd run the meetings with them. You'd coordinate when you're going to go there. You'd coordinate how many hours or  how much time it would take to get there and who you're gonna meet and all of that stuff you'd have to do. And then the scans, we had a, like a separate scan team. We'd work with the scan team. We'd work with the program. Managers we'd work with them and we'd put together this report to deliver. On a quarterly basis and sometimes annually, it depends on what kind of assessment it was. Because obviously you wouldn't do like a physical assessment every quarter. Because I didn't, that wouldn't really make any sense because it stuff doesn't change. But anyway, so that's what we would do. It is mostly meetings and coordination  and doing scans and reviewing the scans and then writing reports  that's your, that was your whole day as a cybersecurity consultant at this organization. I was with  where. The main thing we did was deliver these reports and we would do really, most of it was risk assessment type stuff. And I was very familiar with that because in the department of defense, we do a lot of security assessments and stuff.  So that's very different from where my main  core specialties are, which is security compliance. We would dabble a little bit in security compliance like every now and then. We  I would help them do like a PCI compliant  PCI audit or something like that  or we'd say, okay  here's how you, your system would fit into eight NIST 800 or here's how your system would fit into CIS controls. You do a little bit of that, but that wasn't really what we're, that would, it was separate from what we were doing was mostly risk assessment type stuff. So seeing where their risks are and determining that.  Now that brings us to the next thing, which is information system security officer. So information system security officer is more in compliance. It, the compliance space, security compliance and security compliance is making sure an organization is lined up with regulations, laws, industry standards. That doesn't have to be the federal government, which is mostly what I work with. It can be with  hospitals have a certain standard that they're supposed to meet. One of which is called HIPAA, where they have to make sure that they're protecting their patient's healthcare information and their digital records for the healthcare and stuff like that. Another example of industry standards would be PCI compliance.  That's protection of. Of  credit cards. So whenever  you are at a store and you're using your credit cards, they're supposed to have a separate network for those point of sale devices. So that doesn't touch,  say the wifi that's in the  that's for the staff or for  guest  to log in. So that has to be a separate protected network so that the credit card data has its has, is protected.  So separate from your. Other networks. That's just one of the things you have to do. Another things you have to do for PCI compliance is have the adequate  documentation for the security of the system. Like making sure that net, we have network diagrams and making sure you have  asset  and inventory of all the assets, things like that. Those are all    the types of things that you would have to do for PCI. And that's, those are just two examples, but you've got CIS compliance. You've got. ISO 27,001 compliance. You got many  different countries have their own security compliance and different industries like  have their own compliance. So my, my  specialty is in NIST 800.  Security compliance NIST 800  is what the federal government has created and adopted as the main source of security controls. Sec security controls is a set of security features that protect the organization's. Primary assets. That means like your main server that has all the social security numbers on it. Your  main server that has all the secret  secret data on it, the main server that's holding all  the maps of different parts of the world.  Those, that's what you call an asset. So those are just some of the examples of, and those are some of the difference. Now, one of the things that, what the daily, what it looks like from on a day to day basis for an is.  Just to  compare this versus  versus  the consulting I was doing. So it's also a lot of meetings. Security is a lot  of coordination. Cyber security is a lot of coordination with different organiz because  you're having to meet. Different  subject matter experts like you, you're not necessarily the person who's locking down the, those, that windows server. That's gonna be a server type person.  That's gonna be a person like a system admin who specializes in Linux, red hat, network, administration and windows  2019. Active directory servers  so  you are gonna coordinate with them. So in ISSO, that's what they do. They're coordinating with these different, the firewall guy, the  the privacy person.  They're coordinating with all these different people to make sure that the organization has a certain level of. So it is a lot of meetings. It's a lot of meetings with a lot of different people, and that's probably the main difference between  the meetings. Like an ISSO is gonna have a meeting with all kinds of people throughout the organization.  One organization, whereas a consultant is gonna have a meeting with just a few people at different organizations like me. I had  three or four clients at a, any given time and I would have to coordinate with the there's like a main point of contact. I would talk to big two or three main points of contact and every now and then  I'd meet like a C level exec, but I was talking to three or four different organizations. Whereas an ISSO is talking maybe one organization and there might be other sub organizations, but they're all one you're talking about many people in that organization. So you're going really deep in, in all of the details  and stuff and making sure that all the securities is  is in place. Now it wasn't, it's not like an enforcement role. Typically you are more like a news reporter. What I mean by that is a lot of people think that you're the police and you're gonna come and busting down doors and say, Hey, this, we gotta secure this server. That's not really  your job. Like you might point things out, but the person who has to be the enforcer is gonna be the management, because they're the ones, things come down from management. So they have to be the ones to enforce that stuff. Now  if you happen to be the voice piece, the mouthpiece to tell them, Hey, the CEO just said.  You're just a reporter. You're just reporting to them. Hey, this is what happened. We have to obey what is going on with this organization's policies. Here's what we have to do. So that's the main differences between a security consultant and information system, security officer. The reason why I quit my job as. A consultant and went over to, and now I'm going to back to information to security officers has more to do with. Not the work per se. It was, it is more like the travel, like the organization I was at was paid really good, had great. One of the best benefit packages I've ever had, but it was too much travel and I had too much stuff going on.    And I had too many clients, it was getting a little stressful plus I had family stuff I had to deal with. So that's the reason why  I transitioned over.  And now  I'm going to somewhere where it's a little bit more  It's gonna be  a better fit  for me and my new family situation. So that's  what's going on. Okay. I've got some questions here. Let me see for Mike. Thanks Mike, for your question. I really appreciate that. And Mike says  he says quick question  the ISSM role coming from being an ISSO. What is what's your suggestion? Quick question is S. A ism role coming from, are you gonna be doing an ISSM role from being an is O I'm assuming that's what you mean? So you were an ISSO and now you're about to be an ISS O  sorry. You were an is O you're about to be an ISSM that's I'm trying to interpret your questionnaire.  Any suggestions.  Yeah. So the biggest difference between these two roles is that  one is a manager information systems, creating manager.  You're gonna have more of  you're gonna have even more meetings.  I'm just gonna tell you like the differences. So an ISSO is more like they, they both have a lot of meetings, but an ISSOs has to be more in the weeds because ISSO has to be able to say, give an example of an issue.    A vulnerability comes down the vulnerability.  Is let's make something up.  A vulnerability is a zero day exploit on windows 2019 or something.  And  now the ISSO gets wind into this and that comes from the vulnerability team. Now they have to meet directly with the vulnerability team to figure out what's going on with this thing. And they might have to spend some time researching what the zero day exploit is.  What's the criticality of it. Like how quickly do we need to fix this thing? They have to be in the weed. So they have to go probably go to the CVE.  CVEs and then figure out what type of what this affects. And they have to probably look at  a list of every, all the systems that this is going to touch. And how quickly can we fix this? So there. And if so is more in the weeds in that they have to know  what is going on in a, on a technical level, they have to get more in the weeds and be more technical if you get what I mean.  They might not have to touch the system. A lot of times, they're not the ones implementing the security controls, but they're coordinating with the people who have to implement those security controls. Compared to that, to  an information system, security manager, their meetings are more with upper level people. So they're dealing with stuff that's more broad   and stuff. That's touching the entire organization and making sure you have enough making sure the security team has all the resources in that they need all the time and resources that they need to do their work. So your. Gonna have the same amount of meetings or more, but they're gonna be with upper level management from. Fields like you're gonna be talking to the it manager, the information technology manager who, whom  the network manager, the network engineering manager. You're gonna be talk, coordinate with them. And you guys are gonna be talking about like resources. How many resources do we have to do this work? Okay. We just had this zero date on windows, 2019. Do you guys have the resources and time to do this? How much time do you guys need to actually get this? So  you're talking about like on a broader scale, how do we manage the resources that our team needs to get this job done? And can we get it done and effectively  in a reasonable amount of time? And you're trying to, your main job is managing expectations to upper level management, the C level execs, the directors and all that stuff, managing their expectation. That is your main job, as well as taking care of the people  who are. You work for the ISSOs like your job is working for the, ISSOs managing the expectations of upper level management. So you're still in cyber security, but it's more of a management. You're not in the weeds. You're not having you. You'll never, you're not ever touching any technology. Whereas in ISSO they might have to touch something at some point like, and so they might have to touch the  EMA system where they're inputting information there, they might have to mess around with creating.  They might have to create a security policy, might help create the security policy review, the security policy. They might look at audit logs. They might. Help enable audit logs. They might be the person who's doing threat detection and stuff. The managers, they're not doing that kind of stuff. They're working on resources for the information system, security officers. So it's a great move because it is    is SMS are ma are legit managers. And so they're paid typically paid a lot more. They're paid more. And if you.  If you're a first time manager, you'll get, you should get a pay bump. But if you have been doing a management for a while, you get a significant  pay bump, like if you've been doing it for  a year or two, then you'll be able to like, if forever you move or. Those are the guys who eventually become directors. That's the path directly to directors and see C level execs and things like that who gets paid a lot of money. So  that's really good.  That's a really good move.  If that's the case, if that's what you're doing, then  that's awesome, man. And Mike says  got it. ISSOs  ISSO I worked  with EAs and C  C Sam  and tenable. Yep. Tenable NEIS and all that kind of stuff. That's right. Exactly. You got it. They're more hands on   and touching stuff. Whereas managers, they're not,  they're gonna ask about, Hey, you have access to eMASS. Okay, cool. Great.  They might look in there since, okay. Let's make sure that the system security plan is there. All right.  And any problems with the system security plan. Okay, good. There's no problems. Let's go  or, Hey  Does the new guy have access to EASs. Does the new guy have access to tenable? Okay, cool.  Or  let me help out. Make sure that we have, let me coordinate with the person who controls access to tenable to make sure the new guy has it. Okay. The new guy  we just have some people leave. Let's make sure  that person is not, no longer has access to eMASS or tenable stuff like that. That's the manager. They're not like putting things. Into EASs or running the scans necessarily.  Sometimes  I've been with some managers who did do that kind of stuff, but it was because they wanted to do it. And  they were very sharp, very technical, and they wanted to do it and they, but they te they totally didn't have to. And they had other things to do by the way. All right. Let me shift gears. If you guys have any questions, go ahead and feel free to, to ask me any questions. I'm testing out this new platform. That's why it all looks a little bit different. So if you want, have any questions whatsoever, feel free to ask me in the meantime, let me show you that I have  a book out called R MF is O where walks you through  it's a bird's eye view of what NIST 800 is all. And it's very quick, and this is actually the audio version, which is only like one hour long. And then also I've got  a deeper dive into the NIST 800 security controls, but I'm not hitting every single control. What I do is I hit the families and give you a practical understanding of what the families are and how you navigate those. And interpretation of the families of controls. And I focus from an ISSOs perspective. What parts of that family do you really need to know? That's the kind of stuff that I'm focusing on. And another thing you guys should know, if you didn't know already is I have a podcast here. It is right here. The podcast is, I'm doing the podcast right now. So this the type of stuff that you hear me talk about here is the kind of stuff that I actually is gonna be on the odd. But this, the difference is  on a podcast, you could just be in your car, on your commute and listen to it, or when you're cleaning or something like that, you can actually just listen to it. Listen to our conversation as we're, as you're doing your thing. So, that's the good thing about doing a podcast? I actually really like podcasts. I'm listening to one right now, learning a new language. And I really like it. Okay. Let me see. There's another question here from Mike. He says, can I book you for a consultant for my ISSO role  ISSO role  you know what  I'm actually in the middle of a couple of other consultations, you can email me  feel free to email me and I'll see if I can  find some. For you, I'm not saying no, but let me see what I can do. Here's my I'm gonna send you my contact. My contact is scrolling across the bottom. There is contact@convocourses.com. If you're interested in getting some kind of consulting and stuff like that, I'm  I'm getting back into the work field.  I'm not gonna be able to do as much consulting as I was doing before.  Because my hours are gonna get tapped, but Hey, who knows? Like maybe we can do it before I actually start my job right now. I'm going through the background.  The  background investigation process. Okay. I got another questions from. Mr.  Fernandez. He says, so I'm getting my bachelor's degree  in, in cyber security in December, I'm currently working on physical in wor working in physical security for government contracting. So I'm dealing with classified documents and D O D things  will. Will I be able to, okay, let me see the next rest of this question  to get an entry level is ISS O I think you mean ISS O job  in your opinion, yes or no. Okay. So L Ludwig  let me give you an example and I hope that my example  can give you an idea. First of all, short answer is yes. Okay. I know this because I actually start off in physical security myself. So  I was a. Security forces member in the air force. And basically what  I was really, I was a weapon expert. Like I don't even know if they have that, that it was called 3P0X1. That was my AFSC.  It's a specialty code that they have had in the military at that time.  I don't know if they I've been following it, but basically what I did was I was a weapon specialist  and. I guarded planes. I guarded    if the president came in to our base or whatever, I'd do that, I'd be on that detail.  Not much personnel security, to be honest, it was mostly garden resources. And then I also did some law enforcement. So I knew a lot about the UCMJ  use of force, all that kind of  weapons, training, combat training, all that work with the army and the Marines  and all branches and  different  countries.  Security people, but it was mostly physical security and I trans we call it cross train. I cross trained from physical security to cyber security. There's a lot of crossover. I was surprised to, to learn that.  Some I'll just tell you a few things that are gonna help you going from physical security over into cyber security into it in general. Number one  you are, you're gonna have a very sound understanding of security overall because it's not really that much. When you get into cyber security, it's just a lot of more layers and there's, it's more complex because you got defense in depth. Physical security still applies in cyber security, which is crazy. But when you think about it's common sense, if anybody can touch a system, then they own it. You can own a system. You can take the hard drive out, put it in another device you can use  password crackers you could use.  Oh man, you, you could  do forensics tools on it and then extract all the bits on it and figure out what people try to delete is that as a matter of fact, that's what forensics is all about.  And speaking of forensics  some of the laws that pertain to, to you, like  when you're talking about chain of custody, when you're talking about  Making sure that things that, that  things aren't tampered with during the investigations, all those things apply.  So some of the laws still apply.  What else applies, man?  Physical security checks, physical security assessments is it's. The concept is similar and actually is still used in cyber security. You has to still do physical security to make sure that the facility and the room that the information system resides in is protected so that all that stuff still applies. So it is gonna help you out. And then the main thing is that if you dealt with classified documentation before, and if you have a security clearance, all of that will also help you.   To get an entry level job in cyber security. And if specifically, in information to security officer, but any kind of entry level position, because you have a security clearance, if you have one  that helps. A lot of people confuse like security. They think that if you're in cyber security, you have to have a security clearance. No  that's not the case. Two different things. The security, they should just call it a clearance. It's very confusing. A clearance just does a background check on you to make sure that you are trustworthy to make sure that you don't have any criminal background that might that might. Cause a conflict of interest where you're working like a bank doesn't want somebody who robbed the bank. You know what I mean?    It's stuff like that.  A hospital probably doesn't want somebody who had malpractice it's stuff. Like they don't, there's certain criminal things that not to say that you  if you had some kind of. You had a case on you in the past that you couldn't work in cyber security? It's not what they're saying. It's basically, there's certain things that cause a conflict of interest. So I have to do a background check on you to make sure that there's nothing that might allow you to be exploited.  Or something that deems you as untrustworthy to do that particular job. So if you have a clearance  that really helps out a lot  if you've handled classified information before that actually helps you quite a bit as well, because some people don't have any experience with that and they don't know how that world works, but you knowing that, how that world works,  that helps you quite a bit. The main thing that you need to focus on now is technical. Because me going from physical security over to cyber security, that was the biggest challenge is learning all the terminology, learning information, technology, learning how computer works learning how Ram CPU and storage all works together. Learning how to protect those components of  information system. Those are the main things, all the layers  and the minutia  of learning networks, how to networks work  how you protect those networks, stuff like that. Porch protocols, and services. Those are the things that you need to be really focusing your mind on the security stuff will come very naturally to you. So the answer to your question is, yes, it will help you to get an entry level job when you get your, that bachelor's degree. Only thing I would recommend that you do while you're in school. And this is what I tell everybody is try to get experience. If you. Hands on technical experience, if you can. That means if you're whatever college you're going to, or if you happen to be in the military or wherever, whatever, wherever you're at, try to get hands on.  If you see the, we call them work group managers, fixing a computer, ask if you can help them out. If you can, if they will allow you to help them to fix that computer, whether it's update and virus, definitions, updating the security patches, whatever it is like even the simplest thing possible, even if it's putting the router in and plugging it in or whatever, you'll be able to put that on your resume. And the experience is what they really wanna see a degree is great. Certifications are great, but the experience is what they really wanna see.  Another thing is I would highly recommend that you, if you can, if you have the time, if you have the cycles to do it, some people do not is to get    a certification while you're working on your degree. Degree takes a pretty long time. And sometimes the degree helps you to get the degree. If they, if you're college or wherever you're going to has a degree, a certification program, I will go ahead and take it. It's not a waste of your time, especially if you get the comp Tia, any of the comp Tia ones. If you get any kind of cloud certification, if you get  any kind of networking certifications, those are all gonna help you out a bit, a lot on your resume. So I hope that answers your question. Okay. I've got another question here. It says  Mr. Fernandez says  and I'm a security plus certified I'm security plus certified, but I don't have  the most experience  with physical hardware. Okay. Yeah.  Yeah, that's what I'm saying is  go ahead and get as much. Experiences you can  with any aspect of information technology. And at this point, since you're new, anything will help you out. Like whether it's help desk type stuff, whether you're  Updating, like I said, virus, signatures, whether I, the reason why I keep bringing those up, because those are  the simplest things that kind of come up constantly over time. Like you've probably done it before you just don't it's something we do often so often that we don't even think about it, but that is something you can literally put on your resume. You just need to know  how to articul. Speaking of articulation, just to do a little transition here.  I'm working on a book right now, a new book. That's gonna tell you how to actually break down a resume.  How to, I have a course on this already. So  if you're interested  I'm not trying to cram anything down anybody's throat or anything, but I'm working on a book. That's a lot cheaper that. It'll be about 20 bucks or something like that. It'll have downloadable templates.  It's essentially this right here. This course right here is something  I've been using for a long time. And because of this, I haven't been without a job. I, this thing works like this process  that I've been doing, basically, all I did was to say, okay, how am I getting all these jobs? I literally get like 10 offers a day between LinkedIn. Messages on LinkedIn emails calls I'm literally getting anywhere from, it's not as much as it used to be before COVID and now we have some kind of  a downturn in the economy. So it's not as many as it used to be, but it's at least six messages a day. I get for different jobs and I'm just constantly getting undated with these opportunities. And so all I did was I condensed exactly how I'm able to do this into. Into a course. And I'm gonna make this into a book that tells you how to articulate your, any kind of.  Security, cyber security experience into  a workable template that is marketable to employers. So that is what I'm doing and it's coming, I'm working on it. I actually finished the first draft. I'm getting it edited right now. As we speak the first, book's gonna be a three, the four books series where I'm gonna break down. Not only how to market your resume and not only how to create the resume, not only a template so that you can use my mys as a sample and other people's resume as a sample. But I'm also what I'm gonna do is expand it out into other books that tells you how to get remote jobs. Because people ask me about that a lot and I'm gonna do one where it's talking about  the different categories of cyber security, because that's something I've found. People, the questions that they ask, I can tell they don't really know that there's different aspects of cybersecurity. So that is what I'm doing.  Mike says, I bought this course from you.  You need to update it. Oh, okay.   Yes, updates are on the way.  I'm working on  a whole bunch of stuff right now. So that's  when I'm not on these calls  that's what I'm.  Okay. If there's no more questions, guys, I'm going to, I'm gonna call it quits for the day and I'll see you guys next time. See you on the next one. Thanks for  thanks for jumping on this one. Thanks Mike. For all your questions. Appreciate it.  Appreciate all the questions and  and thanks, Mike. Thanks for the update, Mike.  I will get on that. I appreciate you later.    

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Aloha friends. It's Robert Stehlik, welcome to another episode of the blue planet show. On this show, I interview Wing foil athletes, designers, and thought leaders and ask them in-depth questions about wing foil equipment and technique. I'm also trying to get to know my guests a little bit better, their background, how they got into water sports, what inspires them and how they live their best life. As a visual learner, I'm adding visual content that you can watch right here on YouTube, but you can also listen to these long form interviews on the go as a podcast, just search for the blue planet show on your favorite podcast app. Today's interview is with none other than Armie Armstrong, the founder of Armstrong foils. It's amazing how he built a business in just a few years from a few prototypes to one of the biggest manufacturers in the world of foiling and a wing foiling equipment. We just got some of their new boards at our shop here in Honolulu. Really nice, Innovative features. And he talks about that in this interview also about growing up on a sailboat, learning how to walk basically on a sailboat, sailing around the world with his parents. So that's a really cool back story. I thought I also want to say a special thank you to our sponsors. This show is brought to you by people just like you, that support blue planet here in Honolulu. So next time you're shopping for new gear. Please check out blueplanetsurf.com. And I think you'll find that we have great quality, service and pricing, so you can't go wrong getting gear from blue planet. And of course also you're supporting content like this and making it possible. So thanks for everyone who supports their business. All right. Army Armstrong. Welcome to the blue planet show. Thanks so much for coming on. How are you doing today? Oh, awesome, man. Yeah, we're just about to go and test some prototype foil. As soon as this is finished, we're out on the water. So yeah, life is good. We were locked down and Zed for awhile recently, and it's all for a year and a half behind the rest of the world with the COVID thing. So we're going through it now. I don't know. It's crazy, but yeah, we were allowed back on the water. Yeah, a couple of months of that was pretty bad locked off the water. So now we're back into it. You weren't allowed to go even on the water at all during lockdown, you had to stay in your house. Basically. Yeah, it was pretty hardcore. And then even now, we're, I guess we're almost two and a half months into it, like a lot of businesses of open, so it's pretty hard for a lot of people. I'm just super lucky that that you guys in the states seem to be charging ahead and carrying on and Europe as well seem to be back to normal. So fingers crossed. We hit that way too. Yeah. Not really back to normal, but people are just tired of arranging their lives around COVID, and basically just like at some point you just have to learn to live with it. I guess that's the thing, but yeah, like last time we met was I guess like about three years ago, I think in Raglan maybe two years ago before the, before this whole thing. Yeah, that's right. When that was that your last international trip? Probably one, no, actually I went to New Zealand again, like a year later, which was in February, I think, February on 2009, 19. As the pandemic was already going on in China right before they stopped the travel international travel. So that was a good trip. But so now you're in Auckland. Yeah. Zeeland it's it's. Summer's just starting, you got nice weather over there. Yeah. It's just starting. And yeah, we're lucky we're at a lockdown and we're back in the water. And yeah, we're just getting through pretty exciting list of prototypes and, moving ahead, once they put in. Let's start in the beginning. Last time we talked to you, you mentioned, you just said that you grew up on a sailboat sailing around the world with your parents. So I don't want it to find out more about that. Can you tell us more about, how you grew up and how you got into water sports and, love for the ocean and all that kind of stuff. I was just really lucky that born into a sailing family. I think I was really lucky. Definitely had a lot of great adventures with my parents. I was conceived in Brazil, so my father was an architect in Brazil, and then they'd been planning, a sailing adventure with some friends of theirs who is also a Kiwi architect along with my father. And they went back well all back to the UK, made up there boredom. Fit it up. And I had two young families, so six kids total, three each side, and then the four adults. And they jumped on a 44 foot kitchen sound off around the world to the blue yonder. And so that was, I was six months old when we left the UK. And, we sat around for a couple of years, floating around the Pacific to learn, to walk on the boat and then, ended up in New Zealand after, pretty good salient venture. And then we were always sailing every, every chance my parents got to get out and about. And once we were in New Zealand. And yeah, just all of my childhood memories are, sailing places. So the trip that two year trip, you actually, do you remember much of that? When you, if you're six months old, you probably don't remember. I don't remember a lot, but I actually made a, I was when I was at school, I did a, like a many student DACO type thing on it, and there was lots of super eight footage and lots of slide slides and stuff. I put together a bit of a a story and interviewed everyone actually on video. So we've got that, which is pretty cool. So yeah, I remember it more through photos and stories. But it's interesting, like just learning to walk on the boat and that just being in the ocean for a lot of time, I know you can't, I have to get in the water weekly at least or else I just start going crazy. Yeah, that's that just is what it is. So that's interesting. Do you think that learning to walk on a boat helped you with having better balance or being used to being on, on, yeah, definitely for sailing and maybe for other sports too, because that just feeling the way the water's moving and being used to it. And I think that's the way with a lot of, the traditional navigators, they just grew up in that way of being on the water and fishing and stuff. And yeah, that's definitely something that I guess yeah, that they say that your brain gets pretty wide in the first, five to seven years. So I think all of those real early experiences, as I think with top surface, they get into that when they're really young, they have a, quite an advantage, I think. Yeah, for sure. That's interesting. So do you get seasick at all or you're never really got seasick. Yeah. That probably has something to do with the two that you're just used to. You said that I love it. I love, the rougher. It gets the more fun I love being out on the ocean, that's. Yeah. Cool. So what are your earliest memories of like being in the ocean or in the surf or like doing like kind of water, sports, like surfing or for me, it's really sailing. We did a little bit of playing around in the surf more body surfing, really. When I was young, we didn't really have surfboards. We used to just play in the surf, but we were more, more silent. We were off on styling and benches, that's, that was really, up until I went on my own adventures in my teens, I was just with my family. Going, sailing around New Zealand. And then later on in life, we did a lot of missions back out into the Pacific with dad and his friends, silent tool sorts of, interesting places. And then personally, for me, when I got right into whitewater kayaking, actually when I was in my teens, I was really influenced by a teacher at one of my schools who was a real whitewater, kayaking, fanatic. And yeah we try and really have, we didn't want what a slalom at team one, all of New Zealand titles for the whitewater slalom competitions, and got seriously into that trial and the New Zealand team. There were a couple of really good guys, so I never got into that team, but. Really dug it. And then we had ourselves off of waterfalls and in our late teens and early twenties and a couple of my good friends who have gone on to become, world-class kayakers. And then I got into, I got bitten by the wind surfing bug at university, so really transitioned, kayaking into wind surfing. And I was lucky enough to go wind surfing and Raglan. Cause I was at uni at Waikato doing a science degree and Ragland's, a short drive. And so yeah, we used to Skype off lectures when it was windy and go wind surfing. And that was great. And had a good friend near James court. Who's won an NZ, its best windsurfers. And he was at uni with me doing a science degree as well. And so we used to yeah. Spend a lot of time out in Raglan when surfing. That was really where I got into the wave side of things more than through surf. And this was like in the 1990s or around what time? 1990s. Yes. So I guess late, late eighties, I really got into windsurfing. And then at uni, 1990 to 95, we were probably windsurfing as much as uni scraped through my degree. So much time on the water. Yeah, that sounds very similar to my, my background too. I got into wind surfing and that's how I ended up being, coming to Hawaii and going to the city here and stuff. But and then what happened next? Like how did you transition from wind surfing to the other water sports that you do now? Yeah. So when say a thing and then got right into sup rotted the early days on a sale, we were on a sailing trip actually to tie. W we did a whole big Pacific mission and about 2005 or 2006 I'm with my parents, with my dad at the time. And we were meeting up with some friends of hers who had been doing a big multi-year circumnavigation of the globe. And we caught up with those guys in Tahiti. And we were, while we were inside Hadia, big south swell came or Southwest swell, and we went, okay let's go down and have a look at Chapo. And we had peddled out, not obviously known Adelaide, but he was peddling out on this giant. Must've been 11 plus foot sat gun before anyone else was even really doing it and caught a couple of waves at Chopra, and we were sitting in the channel watching I'm too scared to try and go surf it for sure. And yeah, I was just like, that is epic. That's just, he just peddled out from the beach. Like everyone else came out on boats. A couple of guys pedaled out from the beach, there are a couple of the local stations, but most guys were on boats and I just was super cool. He took his last wave and over the reef and paddled in and I'm dislike. Ah, that's, we've got to get into that. So it came back, there's no deer around and we just grabbed some old Wednesday and made some got, cause I was into kayaking. So it just fit with my kayaking history. So we just made a couple of pedals, started peddling around on them and we didn't really know what we were doing. And we caught a few waves here and there and was just, we're just having great fun paddling around on these things. And From there actually really took off as a sport. And then I got right into it and there was some events in Hawaii. The battle of the pedal Waikiki actually was was on. And I was like, okay, we're gonna go and have a go at this. And yeah, I had a blast like that. And it was yeah, for that one, I think they only had that one time, the Waikiki battle of the power. It only happened once, maybe a couple of times, maybe twice. Yeah. It was pretty cool. A lot of local prize our member battling car around that one, but he was only about 13. That was the last chance I got to battle with him after he was just killed everyone. Yeah. Yeah. I still remember a race where I beat Connor Baxter, but that was, I think he was like 12 or something. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. So then sup really got me to Hawaii and then spent, I made a mission from about 2011. I think that was the battle of the pedal in 2011 Waikiki. I could be wrong, but check those dates and then. Yeah. Every year, since then just spent New Zealand new. Zealand's a fantastic place. Winter is a pretty long though. So yeah. Had a mission to try and get out of  for the winters for a couple of months in Hawaii, if I could, or, Samar or Fiji Corso is fantastic from New Zealand, much, much easier to get to, but I guess Hawaii is, the epicenter of the surf world. And there's a good reason for that. The conditions are amazing. The people are amazing and you just learn much faster with any of those, with any activity, really, if you're around the best in the world, you just learn faster, so it was just a learning experience for me and got right into it. And then through all that time, I got right into kite surfing as well. So the Wednesday thing transitioned into the kite surfing and yeah, so cutting and subbing. I was just doing that as much as I could. Funding it in any way possible. I was still working a bit in the film industry doing underwater photography in New Zealand and then doing odd jobs for cash when I was out and about. So that was your main income was photography and doing, yeah. So through that I'd done a bunch of paperwork with some various organizations, film schools and stuff, and ended up working in the New Zealand film industry, doing underwater camera work. And that was great fun because it suited me, we were in the water again and filming, but it still New Zealand film industry is really up and down and especially something as specific as water shooting, it's not really consistent work. So it was good. I managed to get lots of time to go off and do my through my passion, really, which. Yeah, get in the water paddling or cutting. Cool. Yeah, I remember you came by the sh our shop on ward avenue. I dunno, maybe six years ago or five or six years ago. And you had your first, or one of your first foil prototypes of the Armstrong full and you were showing it to me and stuff like that. But I think that was like, before you even started production on them or anything, you can't, that was actually the first batch out of the first production mold. Just, it was like a production sample and we were just getting ready. So yeah, we had bicycle. You were one of the fist people, actually we went to say and say, Hey, we got some spoils. You guys are gonna need bees. I was pretty impressed by the, like the whole design and stuff, like how the fuselage goes through the mass and stuff. It's pretty unique. At that time, I don't think anybody had anything similar. And then, but so you got into foiling through kiting, is that right? Or yeah, so we go into foiling through kiting basically quite foil racing and kite foiling has been around a little bit longer than some of the others cottage. The cottage took it up a little bit earlier. I think, really falling has been around for ages with initially with Mike Murphy and then rush Randall and lit and Dave Kalama and pick your brain are in a Robbie nation. All that crew, really took it on and Hawaii. Totally. To try and deal with the wind bump and all of that sort of cool history. And the Cod is took it on, a little bit, later, but earlier than, most of the other recent uptake anyway. And so we were doing a lot of cutting and cut for them was just the normal thing to do. And we just jumped on that and we were breaking everything we did. Funnily enough, late again, to knock and Reagan for the ultimate water man event. And I was actually doing some camera work on that for a promo that they did with led towing in, out on the points in Ragland. I was living in Ragland at the time and Daniel Kyoko, who then went on to win the first ultimate water man. He was driving the jet ski. I was on the back filming with late. And I think Terry Chung came down correct me if I'm wrong. I'm pretty sure. And he was telling with lead at some yeah. At Raglan and I would get. Really long wipes, like a couple of minutes long maybe. And we were like, okay we were cutting following at the time when we all like, actually, this is these guys. I know these guys have been doing it for a long time, but that was the first time we'd seen proper foiling and proper waves life. And it just blew all of us away. We were just like, wow, that's that looks like too much fun. We're going to have to do that. And so we got out on our kite foils and pretty much broke all of them doing that. So we were like, okay, that's that D is not, it's not going to work. So we're going to have to stop making R and D and that was it. Yeah. I think I remember seeing I'm going to, I'm going to screen share this video that I remember watching Yeah. So there was some, a bunch of helicopter footage. That's right. This was a promo for the ultimate water man and this, the water shots. So that one, and then there's a couple of other water shots later on. I shot them on the back of the ski with Daniel. So that's obviously the heli shot. And then there's one where led, comes past a man. That's actually a heli shot too, but then you can see on the jet ski. Yeah. That's me and Daniel. And that's one of our shots there. That's pretty epic. Yeah. Yeah. So that was, obviously a good Diane rags. It was no one out surfing. It was a bit too lumpy, this outsides. So yeah, lad was the first person to really get involved in, outsides properly, foiling rags. And for him, obviously this isn't necessarily massive surf, but it's still a pretty solid day. He's charging us to turn our member. He was like, so close to putting the foil out there. I know, in front of the lip, I've led sleds, a unique individual, as we all know. So trust him to really, open up our thoughts processes. So yeah, we were jumping in the water, filming the stuff, and this was the promo for the ultimate water man. Yeah. And his masses is that the stainless steel mask? This one's, I'm pretty sure it's an alloy rig. Very basically probably a Mike Murphy Tiba and with GTN, with. I dunno, lead would have built with someone in Hawaii, I don't know the full story of a rig. Except that yeah, we were just like, ah that's too much fun. We're going to have to, we're going to have to get into it. And then we did, we got onto it after that and broke everything we had. And so then we were like, okay, we just have to start making stuff. So you actually started with Cohen foiling out or cutting. And then we saw that and then we started towing because it just was like, mind-blowingly fun looking. We didn't realize at the time how hard it was. So we just got thrashed and broke all that kite gear. And out in the city, first of all, we started rebuilding the kite gear cause we broke it all and named, we were like, hang on a minute. The stuff we are, we've rebuilt some wings, we rebuilt some fuselages and some masks and we sit actually we've made it stiffer with made it stronger. It feels better to run. Let's actually make a whole of whole foil set. And then we're really lucky in New Zealand. We've got a lot of really smart boat designers and boat builders. And I had some connections in that area too. And so we just started making our own rigs and pretty much I hand-built our first foil wings, just with some templates that we made up a little bit like making a big fan, really. We just, hand-making a fin, we made some templates, we made some foil sections. We mapped it out on some paper and we translated that on some blocks of wood, we stuck all that together. And then we laminated it and tried it and went, okay, that worked and we wanted to make it a bit different. So we tried a different foil section, took the grind to it a few times until we had something that we thought actually worked pretty well. And then we scan that and then did some cat on it and that became our first. So that was the process. And in terms of the system development I was really interested through, spending a lot of time on the boat, on fittings that didn't didn't corrode. And titanium as a real top end material for not having galvanic corrosion, especially with cabin and it's light and strong, and it's just a, a really nice material and the ocean, because once the part is made, it doesn't really change. So I was really interested in using that technology and that led us down various rabbit holes to, and we ended up yeah. And basically you're the sister from the very beginning, you add that the design was the titanium shrouded with carbon fiber and in a mold or, and then so basically the basic design of your fuselage and the mass fitting and stuff, hasn't really changed. It's still the same as the original foil. You told me that. And that was where we spent a lot of time. We got some pretty good design advice at the time on some of the dimensions. The reason for the Hicks inside the round. We wanted round because I really think round on the fuselage is pretty important for not changing the flow when the fuselage goes through different angles. So the flow doesn't change, to the, around the fuselage, to the back wing. If you got a small square or rectangular fuselage, when you put it on an angle, it changes the flow around that saw. I was really interested in that. And if you look at the. Fish and bottom brackets on boats and keel bulbs and everything. Nothing squid, no one's making anything square fish. There's no square fish, really. So I was like, okay, let's go round. And then to fit inside around a hex as a really good shape, because you can put the two together and you get a similar thickness around the outside of it, which means when you do your layouts, you can wrap the fiber right around that. Which is, what we do in our molds. So the fibers come all the way down from the top of the mast wrap around the bottom bracket and then go back up, which is pretty tricky layout to do. But that's the key point to giving it that feeling and unlocking, locking in the feeling into the mask, which is yeah. What we've spent quite a lot of time developing that layup and we're happy with it and Hey, this. It's always a balance. You can make something stiffer, but then you're going to lose it, lose some fields. So there's that balance. And it depends a little bit on the conditions. If you're really going out in big waves, then yet there is something in a stiffer setup. And I think like you say, lead may well be using stainless or solid LOE master or something for the really big waves, but we're not really trying to make gear at this point for people to toe in it Mazur. And it's epic. Those guys have done it. They're BYOD mix level for sure. But what we're trying to do. Gifts make something that has a real nice surf feeling when you're doing a tune on a head highway, that's really the goal. And then obviously Wingdings come along and whinging it is, to me, it's like going back to windsurfing. It's awesome. It was a beautiful blend of windsurfing and cutting to me winging puts the two together and this way, and it brings foiling really to anyone that's the beauty of whinging because you're, you've got the balance with the wing, which is a lot like the windsurf rig, but you don't have the mask. So it's lighter and easier to handle. You don't have that pool issue. You haven't got the strings like the cot and it allows you to have that balance point on the foil. So really with winging, in decent when anyone can foil and that's where I think the future, isn't a, Hey, I'm not alone in that one. Yeah, for sure. And this is a wing filing show but and like for me when wing filing started, I was doing more standup foiling or, prone, foiling and stand up racing and stuff like that. But ever since I started wink, filing, that's almost all I do now. So how is it for you? Like how much time do you spend on a wing foil board versus other sports? Yeah. We still cut for the little bit because coding's a really good way to test gear because you're independent. You can go pretty fast and you can like quickly change gear and go back out and feel it wonderings pretty good tasting gear as well. And then we tow, I do quite a lot of towing into down one. Cause I think riding bumps down wind on bigger foil, especially when you're fishing with bigger foils is a great way to see how they turn. I'm really interested in foils trying to make foils that turn really. That combination of pump efficiency and turning so pull it towing into bumps down wind and yeah. We used to paddle and we still do pedal on a little bit on the really windy days with the SA. We don't have conditions in New Zealand really where you can chip in and ride the coast down one like an like in Hawaii which is awesome to see that some of the top surfers doing that as a cross training thing, I really influenced by Kyle I'd say, but yeah, the down wind for them, we do a little bit of that. But for testing gear really towing, you can't beat the amount of time you get on the foil, and so for me, the problem is with making gear and my past. Robbie who really drummed the send to me at the, after our first machine, we were accountable over the place, making all sorts of different things. You've got to just change one thing at a time, which, whether that be a tail angle a tail section, whatever it is, you have to keep everything else. The same, the board, the mass position, the front wing, the fuselage link, every other element you need to keep the same so that otherwise you don't really know what your progression is or what's happening. And so we keep a note of each rig we've tried and then change one thing at a time. And then you actually have an idea of what you've done and what is affecting things. And then you can make progress and it's, it does two things. I, it means you can't just dump to some whole mix level immediately. It's a progression. And the other thing is it takes quite a lot of time on the water, through that even coming into like most of my winging sessions, I'll even choose the location. Based on how easy it is to come in to change something out and go back out again. And sometimes they'll go positions just for fun, but oftentimes if there's a boat ramp nearby or, an easy place to come in and out, I'll choose that spot because then I can come, run with the tail at a certain angle, change it half a degree, go back out for half an hour, come back and change it. Half a degree, you go back out and, get that balance and feeling and hopefully make some progress. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. I totally agree with that one changing one thing at a time. That's the way to do it, but I guess for the last two months, I always hard for you to test anything if you couldn't. We had, I think it was seven weeks of being allowed on the water. And yeah, really frustrating. But luckily Rob was out of the country. He was, he went to hood river and stuff. So he was doing basically a foil testing at that time. And we've got some great team riders now, too. So there's a lot of feedback now coming from team riders. That's, it's almost too much sometimes. It's great really though. There's a lot of Intel coming in, but the hottest thing with team rod is us asking him to change just one thing at a time. Cause they never do some are better than others, but everyone's got great opinions and that's really starting to feed into, what we're developing and how we're developing it. The new four geometry boards. Was really a passion project for me, but we got a lot of input from our team writers that really helped with that whole development process. Yeah, it's been really fun. I actually wanted to ask you. You went from being like a traveling videographer or, like on a shoestring budget to having like an international brand that's like worldwide and a lot of growth, obviously. And, as a business owner I know to grow, like that takes a lot of money and capital and good people and stuff like that. So can you talk a little bit about that process? Like how did you do it? How did you pull that off and how were you able to, finance it and how did you do that? Yeah, it's a pretty, it's a pretty long, interesting story. I guess really when it started happening, I got really lucky with, Rob Woodell coming on, he's a super smart guy. And I was getting into foiling at the same time with me and really saw a future in what we were doing. And he was, my initial kind of partner. And then we brought in Andrew McGregor and Bryce Rhodes who are, super keen surfers and, SOP athletes and also successful business people. So they really bought some key business knowledge to it. And through those early days I ended up doing some work for some surfboard factories in Asia. At the end of the sub game, I ended up going to Asia and helping doing some quality control. And also from my boat find did a bit of boat-building, on the side as well. Obviously I'd always been involved with my grandfather, built boats, been involved with that when you're dealing with boats, there's always something to do. And so there's always maintenance with boats, some kind of sanding or laminating or painting or whatever it may be. And so through that background and building a bunch of sat boards and stuff like that, I ended up going and working in a factory. And at the time I tried to sit up actually a sub-brand and I went to the last Pacific paddle games with the range of boards actually. But they were, I was probably behind the curve on that one, but what I did do through that process was ended up working in in some surfboard factories, helping them improve their cabin layout techniques. So yeah, I spent a bunch of time in Asia, in surfboard factories over a period of three years. And so when I put my friends together who were backing the full project with, my contacts with the surfboard factories, that's really where we were at grew from. So I was just lucky right place, right time. And we got into it at the right time. I think that video you play with lead was instrumental timing it, put us. We got right into it a little bit early. And I changed my focus from sup completely to foiling and that's just all we were trying to make. And yet to be honest, our first few foil boards were pretty wild and it was just an experimental, time. And we, they worked. But yeah, for sure they needed to be improved, but that was, the process that everyone was in at the time. And I was just lucky that we met, we got to make some, and we got to make some foils and we got them out on the market at a time when it was just taking off. And so from there we grew it and I'm just really lucky with a lot of people that we met along the way. Yeah. Nice. And then and then Rob widow basically helped you with, I interviewed him as well for that ozone interview, but it's able to help you finance it, or, how it's I know any girl fast, it's always, the money goes out faster than it comes in, right? Yeah. It's quite funny how much it costs to just keep the ball rolling. It's definitely a learning experience for me, but yeah. So Rob obviously invested at the early days Andrew and Bryce, who I've mentioned, they invested and yeah, we got the thing rolling. Started getting the product out there and started getting a bit of traction because there weren't a lot of good options that were easy. We've really, it's lucky not being a super product. I'm okay. But I'm Mo I'm very far from a pro, so I want to make stuff that's easy to ride. That's really been one of my focuses. And so that was, that fitted the market at the time. Cause everyone was learning and that, that was a good Bush and saw then scaling it up. That's the biggest issue. Like you say, that does cost a lot of money. So scaling up to distribution and we made some stuff in New Zealand and it was really hard to just shipping out of New Zealand is a real killer. The logistics from here are really is really tricky. And I had these contexts in the circle factories up there. And while I was up there, I actually met a really interesting guy on a beach in China, Austin, Kirk, who is a American guy. That's spent a lot of time doing business in Asia. And he had some friends who were, really top business guys and the cell phone pots industry. And we were at the time trying to scale up to meet the global demand that was taking off. And it's really tricky to understand those economics, these economies, those economies of scale, global distribution. It's a complicated game if you haven't got that system or process in place. And yeah, we basically spent a lot of time working with those guys to improve our manufacturing. And that really is where we got ourselves to the next level and we ended up effectively partnering with those guys on the supply chain side. So the manufacturing we had much better control of the materials we were using. The. The delivery schedules and the quality control. And so that was, that's been instrumental. It was I guess there's no one thing it's a whole lot of things all coming together and, I just feel really lucky that it came together at the time that it did and where we're able to stay afloat. Yeah, no, it's really impressive how quickly you grew the business, and to become one of the leading brands. Yeah. I don't know. I might hope maybe we're a leading brand. I hope we are. We definitely try hard to, do what we say we're doing and we're making the gear as best we can. We do spend a lot of money on materials. It's slightly crazy. I had a Aussie businessmen recently who we're, who has some distribution and all Aussie. He was like, you guys are crazy. You need to spend less money on your gear and, you'd have a bit of business case, but. To me, I dunno, where we're just sticking true to our original design theory. And we wanted to make gear with materials that were as good as we could afford to make it with. And yeah, we're, that's where we're not really compromising. So it's it's always a juggle and business. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. But that's what Rob, Rob bill was saying that too, if you're really into the sport you're not that concerned about the price. It's more like you want to have the best equipment you can have. It's not. Yeah. That's your main concern is the quality of the equipment more than the cost or the price of it. Yeah. And there's definitely something that comes with Different materials. There's a fail. There's the way it lasts. There's the way it performs. There's a whole bunch of things. And so for us, whether it's boards, foils, client wings, any of it we're trying to use the best materials we can. And, it's a really interesting process. Especially when you scale up just, and in the current market to getting hold of materials. As that's where we got really lucky with our supply chain partners, because even just managing to maintain supply in the current global economy is really interesting. But challenging thing to do. And to be honest, if it was just me, yeah, it'd be, it wouldn't be working. So I've got really good partners and that's on the business. Yeah, that's the key to it is having the right people doing the right job. I guess there's a real psychology in life. And I try to, there's some inspir, inspiring character, I think will Smith, he's a great actor, but an interesting character. He talks a lot about, you've got to employ the people who are really talented at the things that. And that's what you need to do for the universe. You, your, you do what you're good at, and you employ people who are good at doing the things they are good at. And in the long run, it all works out better because people are doing, their passion and what they're good at. And yet you've got to spread everything out when you do that, but that's just, I think that's, to me how things work and that's how we've made it work anyway. Yeah. So what would you say is your job description that Armstrong foil is now? My job is basically I'm the lead product development. And then Rob basically is my main like advisor. He's pretty smart guy and he's been making products in this sort of game. I need to talk to Rob, from the hang-gliding days. A lot of wind design knowledge there. And then apart from. I've got, I'm the passion engine, where, trying to hit us in the right direction. And then we're filling out our team on all the other fronts logistically because that's, my forte is not global logistics at all, and it's still a challenge, but it's been really interesting. And I get involved, we have, open meetings and process on that, but we're, to be honest, we're finding our way to a certain extent as well, but we do have, Andrew's really in charge of the sales and business admin side of it. And then we've got a great inside account management sales team who are really on top of immediate communications, and that it's yeah. Having a global. Network means you've got to be on top of communications, 24 7. And at the time differences and stuff that it's hard to communicate with everybody live. Yeah, that's right. So you've got to, you gotta be able to have a T it's about the whole thing is it's a team. It's a team process and it's, yeah, it's really fun to be a paddle. Cool. So let's talk a little bit about your the equipment. When you went back to your website, your, so we just got a shipment at our shop of your new boards. So can you tell us a little bit about these new winks up boards? Yeah. So the forge geometry wing sat range I'd spend. A lot of time hanging out with the America's cup sailors. And obviously the America's cup was on in New Zealand last year. And I was just looking at how those guys set up their geometry of the boats. And, they put the, their main foils in the middle of the boat at the center of gravity. And I'm like those guys are pretty smart, guys. Why do they do that? Like, why is the foil in the center of gravity of the book? And there are a lot of reasons for that for basically efficiency of lifting and not labor ridging things up. And so we played with it a lot and we decided an actual fact. We want to give people the option of putting the foil a lot for the Ford and the board, because then you can have a board that feels like a much smaller board to ride, but it has more waterline length to get you up. And. Because we also want to ride, smaller, and smaller foils because they're faster and more responsive. And so if you move the foil further and the board and your body further on the board, you've got the feeling of a smaller board, but you got the water line length to get you going. And in the water line, link out the back end, we got rid of the the cutaway on the back of the board because we just want to maximize the board waterline linked to get you up and going as, as early as possible. So everything about the house shape was about getting up and going with the laced energy so that people could ride effectively a smaller board and a smaller failing board. Then we, we did a bunch of other things. We might've really deep cockpit, which does come from a lot from this. Rice board design. There's a drain, which is also the handle both sides. And the reason we recessed the cockpit is that it's got quite a nice feeling. There is a slight convicts in the middle, and then it goes up to the, the rails and the closer you are to the foil, the more responsive everything is. The board thickness is just like adding a longer mask effectively to your foil. So dropping that recess means it brings you closer to the foil and has a really nice, more direct feel to the foil. But then you need some volume somewhere. So we have these, high sided rails. That's just about it. And then we got a pretty decent nose kick nose kicked Mike, Murphy's doing some work with us on the white foil market and all of those skis from the sit down guys, they all have massive nose rocker, right? And those guys are landing jumps all the time. And it's just way more forgiving if you've got a bit more nose rocker and a slightly wider nose, which is why we went to the chisel nose so that it's more forgiving for, plannings. And then the final thing really with the shaping elements is that wider nose allows you to really straighten all the lines on the boards. So the rails and the Chinese are really straight and we just felt that help with the board accelerating off the water surface. So what size board do you ride? Mostly? I'm lucky. I have three boards and my vans depends on the day. If the wind's light I'll ride the 88 liter, I'm 90 kgs. So I'll read the 88 liter as my light when board and I can trot around on that pretty much in no wind I'm with the five and a half or a six and a half and get going at the slightest gas cause you're already standing and we do get a lot of shifty light, wind days, especially in the summer here. So that's great for testing the bigger gear. And then obviously if I'm stopping, I'll use a bigger body as a hundred liter board, if I'm stepping. So I'm Mani kgs. I'm not, I used to be better at stopping. I used to be able to sit pedal assist was the same volume as my weight, but now I go up 10, 10 liters. So I ride them on a nine liter board when I'm, if I'm stopping. Yeah, sorry. That's what it's going to be four boards, but the sup doesn't isn't in the van a lot, these days, mostly it's the wind kit. Then for the NFL, if you want a lot, when boat that you can stop. Yeah. You need to go a few liters over your weight, probably. And then my all rounders, the 50 liter, the 50 or the 60, I really liked the 60 as well, but I'm using the 50 at the moment because I've got my stats pretty doll on that. I need about 12 minutes. I can get going on the 50 liters here to have that photo there. That's the 50 liter. That was a lot. That was a classic station actually on Malik. Yeah, we had a really fun, it was the Mo a lot Brightwell not the main waver Elia, cause the surface we sell over there, but the surface are all like go away. And so we're like, yeah. Okay. We're back to the break wall. And we probably would've got munched anyways, but we read off for when they're right. Yeah. Straight off shore. Yeah. It was super fun station. And that's the beauty with winging. You can ride off shore like offshore sessions. I've had such great officers say you have to be a little bit careful that you, Alicia is really well set up and you got a good board leash, a good kite leash. But if there's some good waves you can really off shore sessions are so fun with winging and that's something that we never did with kiting. And even when surfing Dade off shore is tricky about what the wing you can just fully deep power it and ride straight up when. But you're getting back to the board choices set in the 50 liters, my old round at the moment I need 12 knots or more. And then if it's proper windy, I like the 34 liter four, five. And that's because it's really nice to jump. It's just, smaller and more nimble in the air. But you need proper winds. So if it's 18 knots plus, and really good wind, then I'll ride the four or five. Okay, cool. Talk a little bit about the handle. This is pretty unique that I think you're the only ones making a handle that goes all the way through the board. Yeah. So no idea what that was. Yes. So having a handled top and bottom was obviously a good thing and. To save, right? Like traditional handles are, they definitely add white to a board and we had this really deep recess and I'd played with a lot of rice sups with Vince and the cockpit. And I actually had my race. I should dig out the photo for you. At some point, I made a rice up for the 2018 Molokai to Oahu, which was the first foil downwind, the vent on the Molokai. And that one had a really deep cockpit and it had Vince as well. And so I, one of the veins and the deep cockpit board, and then it just came together. We make the water drain a handle. So that goes all the way through. So you got your handle top and bottom and. For the cockpit and obviously the cockpit joins out the back as well, but you just want to make sure that the water completely clear. So if you've got such a big cock, but it makes sense to have an event. So the handle on the bottom is a little bit further back than on the deck. Is that correct? Yeah, it's on an angle. So the handles on an angle the reason for that is to help with water evacuation and also reduce the drag on the, so the I maybe it's pretty minor, but at the, on the bottom, because the handles on an angle, it's not a square surface hitting the water. It's actually an angled surface at the back of the handle. So whether that makes any difference, I don't know. It's a pretty tiny detail. You ever get water splashing up out of the board when you're like on the surface of it's funny, even landing really big jumps. If you get a video shot of it. Yeah. When you bouncing the board off, the water comes through there, but you don't notice that I've never, I've landed pretty big jumps on that board and I've never noticed the water splashing up and hitting me in the face. Interesting. So let's talk a little bit about your the wing. Oh, I guess the wing surf and then I guess these are for winging and surfing then. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. So the smaller boards are more assist shape. There's something you can paddle in, or like I was saying a wing the 34 and, as smaller team riders cache Breezhaler and Tatiana grant now when, you know the 4 0 27 liter board Skyrim or w SIF pedals in the four. Oh. And he's a pretty big guy, but he's a great surfer and he can obviously serve the 27 liter board. I don't see for board that low volume. So if I'm paddling in I'll actually use the 14 I'm at 39 liters. Cause I'm not a great SIF Wheeler. I'm not a great surfer. I never really grew up surfing, so I need all the help I can get. And the four has got way more paddle, but yeah, that those photos that'll be the four of Mateo and Tatiana are on there. Yeah, so they've got a foot strap option, so you can wing him with straps. But they're also really good for SIF falling on towed air and yeah, they're basically a good all around board. Nice. Yeah. Okay, cool. Yeah. Thanks for that. little rundown on your boards. And then let's talk about your the foils. I guess you just released a new foil, actually. Let me, wait, let me pull that up for you have two new foils that are just got released recently. So you want to tell us a little bit about these two new designs? Yeah, so we're just expanding the highest big foil range is actually going to be, six foils in that range. Pretty exciting too, to fill out the range and we've done it step by step because every saw, different sizes actually need a slightly different detail. And some of those details are pretty important. Geometric or aerodynamic twist is got to be adjusted per size. And so that's a pretty big tuning element. And like we got back to, changing one thing at a time. It takes quite a long time to, to tune in those changes. And so you have to make one, try it a few times, compare it to the other one, go backwards and forth, and then, adjusted again and, trying to get something that has that, the ultimate pump and glide, and you can turn like those are the. The big elements. And so we're really stoked with the way out. Our bigger foils will tend, we can, you can get on a wave and you can actually, throw them around. And ultimately the ha range is is a high performance wing range, but then rippers like Mateo and stuff like he's on the 7 25 and that photo that you're the white gods, smaller guys waking that be doing crazy things on those, because they're just so much faster and you can pump from miles and that sort of stuff. So that the there ultimately, or the range, it's a pretty similar feeling to the size. And it depends on your body size a lot. So that's why we've got the range. Obviously, once you get down to the smaller foils that we will be releasing very soon, the 5 25 and the massive one, the 1525. That's all about expanding the range for the different size of riders. So the 5 25, it's going to be more caught foil really but the 7 25 smaller rippers and mine, 25 average size rippers, 1125 larger grippers in the 1325. And the 1525 are like your light wind performance foils or, bigger rappers who want to, get out there and pump around or down window, whatever. So when you downwind a foil, which for the use, which I'm mostly on the 1125 and 90 kgs, but I'm okay at keeping it up to speed. I find the 9 25 is too small for me actually. But if you're a lighter guy, 1125 is going to be too big. But that's, if you're talking. Good guys who have got some pretty good skill. If you're in really small bumps though, then I are using right now, I'm using the 1325. If it's small and I'm telling him, downwind but if it's windy enough to peddle up on a set, then I can run the 1125. Cause that's on the go when it's howling. So yeah, down one thing down, one thing, an interesting, it has a question for you. How do you see down winning? Cause it's an interesting one for me. Like I got into it, like we were down winning the Nepali 2017 under the Nepali rice downwind on a foil. And then the year later was the  2016. I went to the goal. Before anyone had even tried to do a Dauman rice on a foreign car was down winning obviously. And in Maui and stuff, I went, I did the Gorge dam and pedal challenge on the foil, came about mid fleet. Cause the first half was all good. And in the second half around the island, I lost the foil and paddled a 10 foot board with the foil on it, pretty slowly. But yeah. Where do you see downwind falling? I don't know. It's epic fun and I still do it towing in, I don't do a lot of it paddling anymore and I, you do see some of the good guys chipping in and doing down windows in Hawaii, but I don't know where you see downwind and going. For me personally, I really got into for a while, like we were launching us by Portlock China walls and then just going to either Kahala or to, to all the way to Waikiki on know, stand up foiling and kinda, we're getting it, but then the wings came out and then we just it was like so much easier to use a wing and, that's how we started winning is just going on downwinders instead of a paddle, you take the wing, and then it's just easier to get up on the foil and easy to stay on the foil. And yeah, so I actually stopped doing the downwinders. A lot of guys here on Oahu, do the downwind, like the chipping in the app from also lot of guys go from just like the, from diamond head to Waikiki or whatever, where if you fall in, then you just have to paddle in and catch another way of, You don't go too far out, out of this falls and that, yeah, and they just like tiny surf foil boards and really making it look fun. But I haven't really gotten into that myself and this, it just seems like a lot of work if you fall in especially if, if you do a longer run and you start at China walls, if you fall in and you got like a two hour pallets again to get back. Yeah. Pretty much. Yeah. I think some guys are doing that. I don't know. Hey, it's great training if you're a pro athlete. Yeah. So now it's an issue. It'll be interesting to see how it develops. I think what about the downwind suck foiling? Are you seeing a lot of guys doing that still or is that type it off a bit? So I, I think same thing and there's this less people doing it since the advent of wind foiling. And or even that many people doing it to start with, just cause it's so challenging, but I think with the foils getting more efficient. It being easier to get up on foil at I think, maybe it will change and I, I should get back into too, but I just, yeah, when it's windy, I need to get into it too, after too much lockdown, too much locked down cake. But what I'm excited about is this wing foiling and riding waves on the wing photo board too, and dislike doing those long carving turns and stuff like to me, that's super fun and jumping. Yeah. And I guess that's the thing with winging, it's taken over because like you say, it's so easy to get in and out and you just get so much foil time. It's maximum bang for buck and yeah, it has it's 80%, 80% of what I do now is on a wink for sure. And it's just the user-friendliness of wings. Kiting, I've cutting, always has required, a lot of beach space to set up and cuttings is still a great sport in the right conditions. Like howling onshore Cotting is still if it, but I don't know, you just can get out with the wing and it's so user-friendly in locations where you just can't go, with traditional cutting or even windsurfing gear and date off shores, and it's got more bottoming than windsurfing. Wednesday. A thing is great when it's also howling, but in lighter wind, you can get going with the foil and the wing and really be tapping into waves that no one's writing. Yeah, that's true. Like we can foil wing file and much lighter conditions. Our, wind surfers could go out to, but they're not barely moving. They, it takes them forever to get back out, to catch the next. Yeah, I know we were just like flying back and forth. So let's talk a little bit about the wings I'm like your wing development and stuff like that. So can you talk a little bit about what, what the view on and the changes you made to the V2 and so on? Yeah, sure. So basically V1 I just wanted maximum power out of the wing. And so we really went for lodge, diameter, leading edge, and a really deep section which does give you a lot of bottom end power. And that rigidity that you get from the larger diameter tubes really helps with, the bottom in juice of the wing. And to me, I really liked, driving the 10 50 to eight 50, the nine to five, and now the 700. With the Lang. And so you need that bottom in juice to get going on a smaller board out of the hole. So that's really what informed the main shape parameters of the wing, which really is large tubes. And then we've got a tight leech, really tight leech, which means we have to keep that lodge diamond are going quite close to the tips because that gives that sail, that real grunt, that real low and grunty feeling. And there's two sides to that. One is just that simple, low in grant to get you out of the hole on the smaller boredom foil. But it also means you can ride a half size or even a size down from most other wings. I ride the four or five when most people are riding a five or a five and a half, or even a six sometimes, and the five hour, five and a half hours as a guarantee, when it makes like a six or a six and a half, most of the guys bought it has a slightly more compact span for that size because it's got the really deep profile. So there's a plus and minus with every design choice you make. But that deep profile really gives them a lot of bottom end. And that's the, I guess the biggest thing that people don't quite realize with our wings is that you need to ride, at least half a meter down on what you think. So if you're thinking of five let's at four and a half, if you're thinking six sets are five and a half really. And the three and a half, we use that quite a lot, down to 18 knots. And that's, it's more really the grunt of a, for. Yeah. So now the thing we did is we extended our range. We've got the two and a half and the six and a half, and the vetoes we improved the handles the profile is not quite as deep. So we changed the profile is not quite as deep as the V1, so it has a bit more top end. And it, it floats a bit, bit more nicely and we've beefed up all the reinforcements basically on the V2. It's is it the beef that beliefs you've got a photo on the screen right now there we've got an extra butter webbing that ties right back to the Strat because I was in the surf and rip the leading edge out of a couple of wings. I'm getting wrangled in the surf. High of reality is if you get red dot on the SIF, something right. That's just life. Trying to try to beef up these things, the handles are all way grunts here and stiffer on the vatos. Yeah. That's, those are the main things. Yeah. If I can make a comment, like for this seam right here underneath the handle, I had a little cut on my finger and they kept scratching. Like when I got back winded or like pumping or whatever, I would always get scratched by the seam, this kind of a sharp scene right there. So maybe you should move that somewhere else. Yeah, no, we could for another gram, what I've found with those, because they are handles are rigid and they're off the wing. I find I don't hit the straw with my hand. And that's, the ha we spent a lot of time, those handles, I spent a ton of time on those handles. And yeah, there are some other, wind guys out there doing a very similar handle. Now I say pulled a pot, what we were doing and did a similar thing because that stiffer handle with a slightly bigger ice To me, it puts your hand and we've got, so the front hand Zillow, they tell that you might not realize a front handles have a bigger rock and the rear handles have a slightly smaller act and that's to help give the wing a little bit more angle of attack and your hands. So you're not, it balances out your arm links. You don't have to pull them with your back arms so much. And I found that didn't that put my hands off the stress, so they weren't heading the stress, but yeah, for sure. Some sames, if you're, if you hit your fingers on a same, then yet it might graze your fingers. Yeah. But one thing that, like you mentioned that your, their frame is really stiff. So that's something I really like about the ailing is that it's one of the things I really don't like about some wings that Ben right in the middle, right here with a strut connects to the leading edge when it's not enough right there. It just tends to like, when you get, when you hit it gusta the whole wing. Yeah, there's two things there. What you can see with that picture. You've got up right now. There, there isn't a ton of dihedral in the middle and that's because our whole wing is designed through actually, when it loads up at you get a bit more dihedral in there naturally, and all of the panels are all Kat and shaped so that when it's loaded, the airframe is really good. And what you'll find is a lot of wings when they load up, they fold in the middle and you get a lot of crises in the canopy. So our canopy is all set up so that when it's loaded in it, it takes basically, around about 80 kgs of load, pulling someone out of the water. That's when the canopy is actually set to its perfect shape. And that's where you get that real pole and drive. When it's, when you've got to go. With some load in it when it's completely unloaded yet, doesn't, it doesn't necessarily have that same perfect shape. So it is, it's a balance and that's, we're really trying to, but two things, I'm money kgs and I like a lot of grunt out of the whole to get going. And I like to jump, so I want something when you jump, when you pull on it, when you're coming down from a jump, but it really holds you and you can land your jumps. A lot of other wins. I find don't have a lot of pop and when you're coming down, they just banned and you haven't got anything. You just crash into the water. Pretty hard. So yeah, a hundred percent agree with that. Yeah. I find that too, trying to get some, trying to get some grunt into it. And it is a beauty with the inflatable that you can go, large diameter and a lot of that was informed from big, big cut design. So yeah, that's, we're really trying to get going in, on smaller boards with smaller fours, but also I like going out and strong winds. So I really like how are, the three and a half in the four and a half and the two and a half as well when it's hailing perform when it's really windy, because the thing just feels they really come alive. Our wings when it's, when you've got good wind. And, th there may be some lighter wings out there that are bitter and really light when conditions, but I prefer to have some juice when it's windy. Okay. Cool. We were going pretty long now, but I did want to ask you this question that I always ask everyone is especially during the pandemic, like you were shut down, you said for the last two months and couldn't get on the water. So when you're having a rough day, what do you do to stay positive or keep your mind in the right place, which is a tricky one. If I'm not getting in the water, I do go slightly crazy. Luckily I've got an awesome lady at the moment and a young Nipper who's three. So that definitely keeps me engaged. So yeah, it's, I guess it's family time now, I've, I've grown up. I've definitely had some times early on where I was, a little bit, more crazy and probably. As a typical, New Zealand there we used to drink too much for sure. But not nowadays, I'm all full out. We don't, I don't drink at all. And where yeah, family time, really for me, is it, and yet going for nice hike outside somewhere until the top of a ma among the top of the mountain. That's that's a great thing to do with the family and we'll go to the beach for sunset have a picnic on the beach somewhere. That's great as well. We could still do that during the lock down, at least as he said to stay away from everyone else, but you could go on the beach and you can go, yeah, you can go to the beach as long as it was within something like a 5k radius of where you lived something like that. If you didn't live near a beach within their bad life, it's funny. Cause you're in Hawaii. It was the opposite during our set down in the beach. You were not allowed to go on the beach, but you were allowed to go across the beach to go into the water and you're allowed to go in the water. Which I guess makes sense, but I guess it's cause cause our governor is a surfer too, so probably that's why he has to go in the water still. We got it. We've got to get out prime minister, wind foiling guy, that mission for the summit. Yeah I don't know how the, all the rules work. There's some pretty conflicting ones and it's different everywhere. I dunno everyone has their own take on it. I dunno. Any answers that's for sure. Yeah. So yeah. So you mentioned you totally stopped drinking alcohol no more. You're like totally. Yep. That's right. That's right. Actually, Kenny mark had got me inspired. He's an inspirational water man on Hawaii and we were there in 2018, I think with Brian Finch on wahoo doing a bit of a photo-shoot when we released the CF 1200 and. We were there loud. Can you, Micah was trying to foils and he's just such an inspirational character. He's a top go for brighter, but more than that, he's just the top legendary all around water man. Really? And yeah, he was telling me how he's, he's really, I think he was 20 something plus years just totally. Sobering and on it. And he's such an inspiration. I don't know quite how old he is. He wears his age very well, but he's you wait, he was, I don't know how old, but quite a bit older than me and ripping white hat or, and I'm like, okay, yep. Time to get real. So that was kinda, that was co-op I'm really thankful to him for some inspiration there. For sure. So would you say that foiling is like an addiction a little bit like, like a drug or definitely but a good addiction because it gets you outside. It's healthy. It's good for fitness. Mon will be great for your bank balance, but Hey, you can't take that stuff with you. And it is for using and really, it's just such a beautiful sensation flying across the water and it is addicting, but it's addicting for all the right. Okay. Yep, exactly. Do you, like when you get up in the morning, do you have a certain routine, certain things that you do or at the moment? Yeah, changing nappies or getting them ready for the day. And then usually, unfortunately these days it's checking a bunch of emails. It takes a couple of hours which isn't great. And then I usually try and throw some stretches in there in between, and then you look at the wind and try and get out through some testing or it depends what's going on some days it can be just sitting on the computer all day long these days, which isn't ideal, but that's the reality. Yeah. Yeah. Luckily today though, there's some brains. Brand new one. Oh yeah. So that's exciting. So you can go on the water right from your backyard there, huh? Yeah. I Maybe, I don't know if the internet will stay on, I'll drag this thing over here and have a look. See if you can see. Yeah, so then beautiful. Yep. And this is Auckland you're in Oakland, and Oakland city. So yeah. Super lucky. This was a property actually. My parents bought in the 70, so yeah. Pretty lucky to be able to hang out here and yeah, we had to get out, go sailing, go winging or go sailing as well. Yeah. Yeah. We still do a little bit of sailing out of here. I'm going to try and round that my grandfather built. That's just more out of. And yeah, we can't complain. Life is definitely good. When we're allowed to get on the water, it's hot. We don't get locked down again. I think we're going to be okay now, but I don't know it's yeah. Who knows? I'm not going to predict anything on that. Like for me, sometimes I have a really good session and everything like clicks and everything's working perfectly well. And then another time I'll just get frustrated and I keep falling in, or I just make stupid mistakes and stuff like that. And it's just not, it doesn't, I don't get into that zone. So is, does that happen to you and do you have any tricks for changing from, like going from not being in the zone to getting into that where everything. Yeah. I Some days you just have a bad buyer them day, but generally I find I try and do a, like a, I do a li

In Part II of our threesome discussion, we share questions and prompts to consider before you have a threesome — for individuals and couples. We also share some of our listeners' insights on threesomes and discuss couples' privilege. Check out the questionnaires below and be sure to check out our sponsor Lovehoney, as they have the most innovative toys, props and lingerie. Use code DRJESS10 to save. (And if you're curious about the Greedy Girl Thrusting G-Spot Vibe, check it out here!) Threesomes: Self-Questionnaire  Why do you want to have a threesome? Where did the idea of a threesome come from? How do you feel about this source? What benefits do you expect to derive from a threesome? What are the perceived risks/costs? With whom would you like to have a threesome? Do you know if they're open to it? How might your relationship with your threesome mates change post-threesome? What excites you most about a threesome? What motivates you? What concerns you about a threesome? Do you have any hesitations? What emotional elements of a threesome have you considered? What emotional elements of a threesome have you considered? How will you manage potentially challenging emotions should they arise? Do you feel comfortable communicating your desires and boundaries? What conditions increase your comfort level with open communication? What does your ideal threesome entail? Consider the setting, relationships, involved parties, sex acts, etc.. Threesomes: Managing Jealousy, Insecurity & Distress  Am I comfortable admitting to feelings of jealousy, insecurity and distress? I tend to feel jealous/insecure/distressed when… When I feel jealous/insecure/distressed, it shows up in my body as…(emotional presence) When I feel jealous/insecure/distressed, I want to… When I feel jealous/insecure/distressed, I can self-soothe by… When I feel jealous/insecure/distressed, I'd like you to… When I feel jealous/insecure/distressed, I don't want you to… You'll know when I feel jealous/insecure/distressed when I…Some other cues to look for include… Threesomes: Couples' Questionnaire  Whose idea was it? Do you feel any pressure? Have you (in)directly pressured your partner? Why do you/we want to have a threesome? What do you/we hope to get out of the experience? What are my/our concerns about the experience? Have we talked about jealousy, insecurity and other potentially challenging emotions we might encounter? What would it look like if it goes well? What might it look like if something goes awry? How will we communicate and respond? What do we value in a third-party? What type of person do we want to connect with? Do we want to involve a stranger, an acquaintance, a friend and/or a sex worker? Have we considered our couples' privilege and how we can ensure that all voices are heard and respected? If you've got questions for the podcast, submit them here. And be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Podbean, Google Podcasts & Stitcher!

In Part II of our threesome discussion, we share questions and prompts to consider before you have a threesome — for individuals and couples. We also share some of our listeners' insights on threesomes and discuss couples' privilege. Check out the questionnaires below and be sure to check out our sponsor Lovehoney, as they have the most innovative toys, props and lingerie. Use code DRJESS10 to save. (And if you're curious about the Greedy Girl Thrusting G-Spot Vibe, check it out here!) Threesomes: Self-Questionnaire  Why do you want to have a threesome? Where did the idea of a threesome come from? How do you feel about this source? What benefits do you expect to derive from a threesome? What are the perceived risks/costs? With whom would you like to have a threesome? Do you know if they're open to it? How might your relationship with your threesome mates change post-threesome? What excites you most about a threesome? What motivates you? What concerns you about a threesome? Do you have any hesitations? What emotional elements of a threesome have you considered? How will you manage potentially challenging emotions should they arise? Do you feel comfortable communicating your desires and boundaries? What conditions increase your comfort level with open communication? What does your ideal threesome entail? Consider the setting, relationships, involved parties, sex acts, etc.. Threesomes: Managing Jealousy, Insecurity & Distress  Am I comfortable admitting to feelings of jealousy, insecurity and distress? I tend to feel jealous/insecure/distressed when… When I feel jealous/insecure/distressed, it shows up in my body as…(emotional presence) When I feel jealous/insecure/distressed, I want to… When I feel jealous/insecure/distressed, I can self-soothe by… When I feel jealous/insecure/distressed, I'd like you to… When I feel jealous/insecure/distressed, I don't want you to… You'll know when I feel jealous/insecure/distressed when I…Some other cues to look for include… Threesomes: Couples' Questionnaire  Whose idea was it? Do you feel any pressure? Have you (in)directly pressured your partner? Why do you/we want to have a threesome? What do you/we hope to get out of the experience? What are my/our concerns about the experience? Have we talked about jealousy, insecurity and other potentially challenging emotions we might encounter? What would it look like if it goes well? What might it look like if something goes awry? How will we communicate and respond? What do we value in a third-party? What type of person do we want to connect with? Do we want to involve a stranger, an acquaintance, a friend and/or a sex worker? Have we considered our couples' privilege and how we can ensure that all voices are heard and respected? If you've got questions or topic suggestions for the podcast, submit them here. As well, you can now record your messages for us! Please record your message/question in a quiet room and use your phone's headphones with a built-in mic if possible. And be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Podbean, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music & Stitcher! Rough Transcript: This is a computer-generated rough transcript, so please excuse any typos. This podcast is an informational conversation and is not a substitute for medical, health or other professional advice, diagnosis or treatment. Always seek the services of an appropriate professional should you have individual questions or concerns. EPISODE 221: How To Prep For A Threesome  (00:05): You're listening to the Sex with Dr. Jess podcast. Sex and relationship advice you can use tonight. me. Brandon (00:16): Welcome to the Sex With Dr. Jess podcast. I'm your co host Brandon Ware here with my lovely other half, Dr. Jess. Dr. Jess (00:23): Hey, and it's just the two of us here to talk threesomes. This is part 2,

My special guest on this episode of Sales Chalk Talk is Jason Weaver, author and the creator of FIX Marketing. His book, FIX Marketer is a blueprint to 10X marketing return on investment. What you’ll discover on this podcast: • The two biggest challenges small businesses have with their marketing and how they can be handled • What FIX Marketing is • How a business can 10X their marketing R.O.I • Some great FREE or affordable online tools you can use to enhance your marketing • And MUCH more Join Jason and me as he teaches an old dog a few new tricks (you’re never too old to learn and grow)! Jason’s website is http://fixmarketer.com. Until December 6, 2019, you can get a FREE copy of Jason’s book, “FIX Marketer” when you subscribe to his newsletter on the website.

The next time you feel depressed, unbalanced or contracted, turn your attention inside, become aware of the state of your inner world, and ask yourself, ‘Who is in here?’ or ‘Who have I let in?’ You will be surprised at what you understand from this simple inquiry. Hint: If there’s someone with whom you’re somewhat obsessed, or even thinking about a lot, it’s likely that they are ‘inside you’. You should remember, however, that sometimes this happens in the unconscious, and when you discover who is inside you, it comes as a revelation. Ask, ‘Is it my mother? My father?’‘My spouse?’‘The culture?’‘A false or limited “I”?’‘Some imagined person who views me critically?’ Once you find who it is you’ve let in—and you can also find how you have weakened yourself to enable them to come in—politely ask them to leave. Now call on the Self, God, Guru or Consciousness, and ask that your inner space be expanded and empowered.

Links mentioned in today’s episode https://brentbergherm.com/workshops/oregon-coast-2019/ Today I’m talking with a representative from a photo gear manufacturer. This isn’t the only interview I’ll be doing from a gear producer. With these interviews, it’s my goal to give you listeners a bit of an “insider” look into the company and to hopefully better understand what makes them tick. So today, I’m talking with Ted Meister, Marketing Director for ThinkTank Photo. Ted, Welcome to the show.Ted, Tell us a bit about ThinkTank Photo, the basic history of the company. Who are the major players and how it all got started? And what is the main philosophy that drives the company? Questions: I’ve got some questions I’d like to ask about some specific products, but also about the design process of making quality gear photographers want. I Some of these are mine, and some come from my listeners. I may have also expanded on what listeners asked as well.Also, I’m not looking to have you spill any trade secrets, I want to respect that for sure! 1. What challenges do you consider when designing a camera bag. How do you research what customers want? Do you have a mechanism for direct customer feedback? 2. With the myriad of cameras/systems/types of photographers how does a manufacturer prioritize bag designs to satisfy those variables 3. Is there anything a buyer should know about shopping for bags that they usually don’t think about? Maybe something that could be viewed as a design flaw but in reality it’s just a misunderstanding of a certain design challenge. 4. This is a good one: “Why don’t they make girly camera bags?”This person literally wants bright colors, different patterns, even pink! The desire to have a bag that doesn’t scream “photo gear” is desired by many, including this listener. I know I’d love a bag that doesn’t scream photo gear. 5. There were more items along this line. A brand of bags was specifically mentioned, Kavu bags. There was also a mention regarding sizing, straps etc. something more female focused. 6. From the ThinkTank Lineup, give me a recommendation for the following scenariosa. Travel photographer shooting Fujifilm cameras. Two bodies, 5 lenses.b. Landscape photographer shooting a digital Medium Format system.c. Travel photographer shooting a standard Nikon or Canon kit. One Pro body, one smaller body and 4 lenses.d. To fit a smaller kit, Fuji or Sony or Olympus crop-sensor, two lenses. And room for a few daily essentials. 7. You just released the Elite 45L. Walk me through this bag. In one sense I’m absolutely drooling. In another, it’s a lot of bag, maybe more than I need. 8. You also released an ICU. Do you plan to do more of these in the future which will allow photographers to use your gear protection in the bag of their choice? 9. Do plans exist for expanding the line with other non-bag solutions? That you can talk about anyway? Links to gear mentioned in this episode: All Rolling Cases: http://bit.ly/2WrCG4s Airport Advantage: http://bit.ly/2MxH65d Airport Advantage Plus: http://bit.ly/2JZWSUt BackLight 26L: http://bit.ly/2MvdiWF Urban Aproach 15: http://bit.ly/2MyEjsg Vision series shoulder bags: http://bit.ly/2u0Irp5 Retrospective 30: http://bit.ly/2K496vg Photocross 13: http://bit.ly/2JZjJ2c Photocross 15: http://bit.ly/2K2WFj0 FirstLight 40L: http://bit.ly/2MIU1S2 BackLight 36L: http://bit.ly/2K2X450 BackLight Elite 45L: http://bit.ly/2MBNRTw Rotation System: http://bit.ly/2K5R6An Shape Shifter Series: http://bit.ly/2MuNnyq StreetWalker Series: http://bit.ly/2MzBzLx Mirrorless Mover Series: http://bit.ly/2MxJGbp Turnstyle Sling Bags: http://bit.ly/2Myt4jM StashMaster 13: http://bit.ly/2WruFaU SKB Hardcases: http://bit.ly/2WmnSix

On today’s episode of Food, Success & Life for the Modern Woman, Dr. John Day shares the journey that led him to find the Longevity Village, which inspired his years research and ultimately, to writing his book The Longevity Play: Seven Life Transforming Lessons From Ancient China. These lessons, obtained from a seven remarkable centenarians in Bapan, China, helped Dr. Day turn his own deteriorating health around. The principles Dr. Day teaches his patients and the readers of the The Longevity Plan are profoundly simple yet elusive to many Americans: Eat Good Food, Master Your Mind-Set, Build Your Place in a Positive Community, Be in Motion, Find Your Rhythm, Make the Most of Your Environment and Proceed with Purpose. Al of these concepts are wonderfully illustrated in the stores of the seven remarkable centenarians of Bapan (The Longevity Village) their families and their community. What was found in the Longevity Village and what is now in the book? The book breaks down the seven principles focused in living in tune with our DNA, the way we were designed to live. Starts out with nutrition and eating real food. In this village, there was nothing processed. No sugars or oils. Everything was real food that they foraged, a simple lifestyle. Nothing exotic. Just the way our bodies were supposed to be. Food should be nourishment. How Can Busy People Start to Make the Switch to this Lifestyle? Busy moms and career woman are making their families a priority and running around time pressed. Introduce healing foods with each meal is a good start. Most families are starting the morning with sugar: cereals, pastries and high sugar coffee drinks. Try to introduce vegetables regularly and eliminate sugar. It’s so addictive. Provide kids fruit, vegetables and nuts first before the cereal. People are time-strapped and this can be challenging, but it can be done. One great way is to batch food. Make more than usual over the weekend so you have leftovers to use during the week. Focus on Nightshades Lots of controversy on this. Should I? Shouldn’t I? Some believe they’re the root of many autoimmune diseases and inflammation. Dr. John Day has a thorough blog post on his website about this very subject, referencing research studies. It has been shown in rats that nightshades create inflammation, but it has never been proven in humans. There are no credible studies or science to prove that and rule out these wonderful foods. If you find that your joints hurt when you eat tomatoes, then don’t eat them. But most healthy diets like the Mediterranean diet and Japanese diets include nightshades and these groups have the lowest amounts of autoimmune conditions. 7 Tenants in Longevity Plan 1) Nutrition- eat real food. Eliminate sugars and processed foods. 2) Mindset- this is critical. Every centenarian he met in their home, all shared that they are living the best days of their lives. Each day is an honor and it is an honor to grow older rather than trying to hang on to their youth. Optimistic people live 7 to 8 years longer. Those with gratitude live twice as long. Those that embrace their stress rather than complain about it live 17 years longer. To practice positive mindset, Dr. Day embraces everything that life throws at him. Even stress and challenges, and look at them as obstacles to overcome. 3) Community- something that is not well understood in the medical community. The power of being connected. And we’re not talking technologically. People who feel isolated or lonely, is the biggest predictor of early death…more than smoking and obesity. These communities are very tight knit. Living in multi-generational homes…4 generations in one home! The concept of being connected giving a feeling of belonging and someone to talk to. 4) Physical Activity or Being in Motion- too many of us think that exercise is a swear word….”I gotta go to the gym” and people don’t want to do it. But centenarians know nothing about driving to a gym to move. They live intentional lives and physically active throughout their lives. They are in motion all the time. Exercise doesn’t mean you have to go to the gym. So if you don’t enjoy it, don’t do it. Do other things like walking, dancing and gardening. Studies show that even if you go to the gym and sit at your desk all day, going to the gym cannot undo the damage of sitting at your desk all day. Re-engineer movement back into our lives. Sitting is the new smoking.      To Learn More About EnergyBits Click Here Join our private Facebook Group to find other women just like you and find the support to manifest your superwoman powers.   Dr. Day’s 3 Personal Habits to Help Him Succesfully Reach Age 100 Eat real food. This was really hard for him initially. Favorite snacks are vegetables and nut butters. Physically active Mindful about relationships in his life. Being the best husband, father and doctor. 15 Day Fat Loss Kick Start Ebook Download your FREE copy here!! DOWNLOAD!   We respect your privacy- We will not rent, spam or sell your email. Links and Resource Find Dr. John Day at website | podcast | facebook | twitter | youtube Recommended Books: The Longevity Plan: Seven Life-Transforming Lessons from Ancient China The Blue Zones: 9 Lessons for Living Longer From People Who’ve Lived the Longest Recommended digital resource: Apple Watch and the information it shares. It’s his reality check to make sure he’s moving and active. He likes the tracking because for him it brings awareness. It makes it fun and exciting and keeps him honest. If you missed it, listen in on our last podcast episode: Four Steps to Instantly End Overwhelm in Your LIfe with Jennifer Knecht And check out our latest blog, You CAN Drink Wine Again! (without the headache) Join our private FSL Modern Community on FB.

Who am I? Some of us ask this question out right. Others of us ask this question beneath our awareness. To be sure, all of us ask this question. The degree to which we are settled, content, satisfied and secure partially rests in this answer of identity. In this episode, Amber Miller helps us understand the health that is ours when we place our identity in Christ.

【关注微信公众号：为你读英语美文，查看原文，垫乐，拓展资料】 【520特别回顾】第62期 IfOnly 如果能再爱一次 · 筱思 主播：筱思 坐标：北京 今天是5月20日，原本只是普通的一天，但因为“我爱你”，成为了表达爱的一天。 在这个充满爱的日子里，主播筱思要和你分享她最挚爱的电影If Only《如果能再爱一次》 愿我们一起，更加懂得用心和珍惜。 场景一神秘司机在送Ian去参加音乐会时，和Ian那段对话：——Ian：I can't seem to make her happy.——Driver: How could that you love someone somuch but not know...how?——Ian: How to love her?——Driver: So you Do love her?——Ian：Yes， I do, very much.——Driver：Yeah，I thought that's what really matters.——Ian：She's gonna away for two weeks and she wantedme to go with her.——Driver: What if she never come back?Picture it. You two say goodbye at the airport, she gets her on the plane, younever see her again. Could you live with that?——Ivan: No...no...I couldn't.——Driver：Now you know what to do. Appreciate her,appreciate what you have.Just love her.正是这番话让Ian第一次意识到自己内心对Samantha的爱。 Just love, 用心去爱，你会知道怎么做，你会知道TA感受得到。 场景二忘不了Samantha日记中写给Ian的那段深情告白，字字句句可爱女人心。“I've been warming on this song about me& Ian. I want to sing itto him before I go away, but I'm afraid it'll scarehim, so I bought him a jacket instead. They say there is always someone in arelationship who loves more. Oh God, I wish it wasn't me.”场景三当Ian终于意识到无论他怎么努力，都改变不了命运最终相同的结局。当他和Samantha一起待在山顶木屋中的时候，他终于意识到，他要失去她了。他强忍着悲伤的泪水，站在窗前，甚至不敢直视Samantha的眼睛。他对她说：“ Past does not matter, what matters is now,only now.”——I: Samantha, for some reason, you thoughtyou didn't have much left,I mean in your life. You have only one day left, whatwould you do?——S: It's an easy answer, and no brainier,I'll spend it with you.Just being together, kind like now, doing nothing.——I：Nothing else?——S：Closeness. Intense closeness. Reallysharing things of each other,silly things, difficult things. That's what I always wanted for us, if we gonnahave that, nothing could hurt us.——I：I love you. 场景四比起别的惊喜，没有什么比Ian为Samantha用心定制的手链更令人温暖了。——I：Close your eyes. Happy graduation.——S：Oh my God.——I: Some of the charms are old and some arenew. That's a musical note, a violin. This one is a flower, what is no sense ofmatter at all, exceptit was exquisite much like yourself. Let's see... thetrain that we took today.And... that's the Eiffel Tower that you've alwayswanted to see. And... this frying pan, cause you are the only person that Iknow that can actually do the flipping thing. And... this one's a heart... myheart... it's yours now. 场景五当Samantha最终在Ian的爱里克服恐惧与不自信，在毕业典礼音乐会上唱出那首只属于她和Ian的歌曲时，当她因为他的宠爱而光芒四射时，恰如歌名一般，Love will show you everything.如果我们相依相偎的时间只剩一天，请让我带你了解我心最深处的孤寂和无措，请让我带你去看这世上最美的风景，请让我们一再拥有彼此，喋喋不休地倾诉，请让我来帮你实现你的梦想。Today, today I bet my life.You have no idea what I feel inside.Don't be afraid to let its how,For you never know if you let it out.I love you, you love me.Take this gift and don't ask why,Cause if you will let me,I'll take what scares you,hold it deepinside.And if you ask me why,I'm with you and why I'll never leave,Love will show you everything. 场景六故事的最后，当Ian知道他要和Samantha迎来最终命运的时刻，他在雨中将自己内心一直以来想要告诉她的爱全部说给她听：“I have loved you since I met you, but Iwould not allow myself to truly feel it until today. I'm always thinking ahead,making decisions out off ear. Today, because of what I learned from you...every choice I made was different and my life has completely changed. And I'velearned that if you do that, you're living your life fully. It doesn't matterif you have five minutes or fifty years. Samantha, if not for today, if not foryou, I would never have known love at all. So thank you for being the personwho taught me to love. And to be loved. You don't have to say anything. I justwanted to tell you.” 【筱思感悟】少不经事的岁月里，我们总会认为，有些事，错过了可以弥补；有些人，转身了还能遇到。我们总安慰自己还有明天，还有以后，但岁月这张单程车票，从来都不曾馈赠你额外的哪怕一次侥幸机会。 如果没有这迫近的死亡阴影，也许他们一样会因为伤害而分离，而遇见不到旦夕祸福的我们，也是一样的不懂珍惜。有太多现实的阻碍横亘在我们和心爱的人之间，最后的结果便往往应验了那句经典却悲哀的台词——失去了，才懂得珍惜。 一切幸福都简单地源于内心醇静的爱，可惜我们常常充当Ian警醒之前的那个角色；更可惜的是，我们在失去后大多没有机会重来，只能遗憾地说着以If only开头的语句。 为何最终让我们擦亮眼睛的，总是永不再来的光明？ 520，不要吝惜你爱的表达，让我们更加懂得用心和珍惜。  【垫乐】关注微信公众号：为你读英语美文，查看垫乐 【主播介绍】筱思：本科毕业于西安外国语大学，研究生毕业于北京语言大学，喜欢录音电影画画唱歌的处女座女生 主播：筱思 , 制作 | 编辑: 永清 图片源于网络文字，音乐版权归作者或版权方所有 微信公众号：为你读英语美文官方新浪微博：@为你读英语美文

【关注微信公众号：为你读英语美文，查看原文，垫乐，拓展资料】 【520特别回顾】第62期 IfOnly 如果能再爱一次 · 筱思 主播：筱思 坐标：北京 今天是5月20日，原本只是普通的一天，但因为“我爱你”，成为了表达爱的一天。 在这个充满爱的日子里，主播筱思要和你分享她最挚爱的电影If Only《如果能再爱一次》 愿我们一起，更加懂得用心和珍惜。 场景一神秘司机在送Ian去参加音乐会时，和Ian那段对话：——Ian：I can't seem to make her happy.——Driver: How could that you love someone somuch but not know...how?——Ian: How to love her?——Driver: So you Do love her?——Ian：Yes， I do, very much.——Driver：Yeah，I thought that's what really matters.——Ian：She's gonna away for two weeks and she wantedme to go with her.——Driver: What if she never come back?Picture it. You two say goodbye at the airport, she gets her on the plane, younever see her again. Could you live with that?——Ivan: No...no...I couldn't.——Driver：Now you know what to do. Appreciate her,appreciate what you have.Just love her.正是这番话让Ian第一次意识到自己内心对Samantha的爱。 Just love, 用心去爱，你会知道怎么做，你会知道TA感受得到。 场景二忘不了Samantha日记中写给Ian的那段深情告白，字字句句可爱女人心。“I've been warming on this song about me& Ian. I want to sing itto him before I go away, but I'm afraid it'll scarehim, so I bought him a jacket instead. They say there is always someone in arelationship who loves more. Oh God, I wish it wasn't me.”场景三当Ian终于意识到无论他怎么努力，都改变不了命运最终相同的结局。当他和Samantha一起待在山顶木屋中的时候，他终于意识到，他要失去她了。他强忍着悲伤的泪水，站在窗前，甚至不敢直视Samantha的眼睛。他对她说：“ Past does not matter, what matters is now,only now.”——I: Samantha, for some reason, you thoughtyou didn't have much left,I mean in your life. You have only one day left, whatwould you do?——S: It's an easy answer, and no brainier,I'll spend it with you.Just being together, kind like now, doing nothing.——I：Nothing else?——S：Closeness. Intense closeness. Reallysharing things of each other,silly things, difficult things. That's what I always wanted for us, if we gonnahave that, nothing could hurt us.——I：I love you. 场景四比起别的惊喜，没有什么比Ian为Samantha用心定制的手链更令人温暖了。——I：Close your eyes. Happy graduation.——S：Oh my God.——I: Some of the charms are old and some arenew. That's a musical note, a violin. This one is a flower, what is no sense ofmatter at all, exceptit was exquisite much like yourself. Let's see... thetrain that we took today.And... that's the Eiffel Tower that you've alwayswanted to see. And... this frying pan, cause you are the only person that Iknow that can actually do the flipping thing. And... this one's a heart... myheart... it's yours now. 场景五当Samantha最终在Ian的爱里克服恐惧与不自信，在毕业典礼音乐会上唱出那首只属于她和Ian的歌曲时，当她因为他的宠爱而光芒四射时，恰如歌名一般，Love will show you everything.如果我们相依相偎的时间只剩一天，请让我带你了解我心最深处的孤寂和无措，请让我带你去看这世上最美的风景，请让我们一再拥有彼此，喋喋不休地倾诉，请让我来帮你实现你的梦想。Today, today I bet my life.You have no idea what I feel inside.Don't be afraid to let its how,For you never know if you let it out.I love you, you love me.Take this gift and don't ask why,Cause if you will let me,I'll take what scares you,hold it deepinside.And if you ask me why,I'm with you and why I'll never leave,Love will show you everything. 场景六故事的最后，当Ian知道他要和Samantha迎来最终命运的时刻，他在雨中将自己内心一直以来想要告诉她的爱全部说给她听：“I have loved you since I met you, but Iwould not allow myself to truly feel it until today. I'm always thinking ahead,making decisions out off ear. Today, because of what I learned from you...every choice I made was different and my life has completely changed. And I'velearned that if you do that, you're living your life fully. It doesn't matterif you have five minutes or fifty years. Samantha, if not for today, if not foryou, I would never have known love at all. So thank you for being the personwho taught me to love. And to be loved. You don't have to say anything. I justwanted to tell you.” 【筱思感悟】少不经事的岁月里，我们总会认为，有些事，错过了可以弥补；有些人，转身了还能遇到。我们总安慰自己还有明天，还有以后，但岁月这张单程车票，从来都不曾馈赠你额外的哪怕一次侥幸机会。 如果没有这迫近的死亡阴影，也许他们一样会因为伤害而分离，而遇见不到旦夕祸福的我们，也是一样的不懂珍惜。有太多现实的阻碍横亘在我们和心爱的人之间，最后的结果便往往应验了那句经典却悲哀的台词——失去了，才懂得珍惜。 一切幸福都简单地源于内心醇静的爱，可惜我们常常充当Ian警醒之前的那个角色；更可惜的是，我们在失去后大多没有机会重来，只能遗憾地说着以If only开头的语句。 为何最终让我们擦亮眼睛的，总是永不再来的光明？ 520，不要吝惜你爱的表达，让我们更加懂得用心和珍惜。  【垫乐】关注微信公众号：为你读英语美文，查看垫乐 【主播介绍】筱思：本科毕业于西安外国语大学，研究生毕业于北京语言大学，喜欢录音电影画画唱歌的处女座女生 主播：筱思 , 制作 | 编辑: 永清 图片源于网络文字，音乐版权归作者或版权方所有 微信公众号：为你读英语美文官方新浪微博：@为你读英语美文

节目组: The World Says 世界说 节目名称: The Big data 大数据I: Hello everyone, welcome to the world says from the VOE foreign language station. This is Iris.L:Hey guys,I am Louisa.I: What are you doing,sherlock? Focus! Don't play your computer.S:Wait,wait oh oh.OK.I'm browsing my Taobao. It can always be combined with most people's purchase and it will launch the most fashionable things.I: Yes,that's the big data for you today.As we know the core of big data is predicting, to predict what will happen and the risk of what has happened. We use big data to understand customers' favorites and meet their demand.L:But you know,big data are not always works. Now American depend on data to solve the problems in life. But recently unexpected results and presidential condidate let them realized that data is less reliable.S:Well,Cubs win the World Series.Donald Trump wins the White House.What do those two epochal events have in common? Both were considered highly unlikely. And both happened.Many Americans therefore judge predictions, with more skepticism. They've learned an important ,even comforting lesson about the limits of polling and other measures: Big Data is not destiny.I: In fact, Sherlock, people's mind is good. Survey responses to pollsters, consumer buying habits, internet site visits, can be plugged into computer models to suggest people's future behavior. The understandable hope is always that if you start with knowable measurements and crunch them through well-constructed formulas, you'll produce a reliable preview of what will happen.L:But.Not necessarily.Computers don't read minds. Nor do pollsters. People don't always say what they think. Or they change their minds. People can be convinced and unconvinced.I:Some people say one thing but do another. You will never write a program to take into account all those nuances and many others.S:As you say,Big Data can lead to Big Mistakes. Google Flu Trends, for instance, sought to use data from internet searches to estimate when influenza season would peak and at what level. I:But it drastically overestimated peak flu levels in the 2012-13 season That failure “doesn‘t erase the value of big data,” “What it does do is highlight a number of problematic practices in its use-what we like to call ‘big data hubris'”L:Should we toss out data and rely only on experience, or on anecdotes, or on what we hear ( true or false) frome people with whom we agree?I:That would be a dangerous overreaction to the election flub. If people believe the data cannot be trusted, they may turn instead to “ trusting anecdotes friends, family and tribe,” Someone writes in the New York Times. “Policies will be based on what people think are good ideas, not what data show. This will potentially … further segment an already divided nation,” he warns, aptly.S:In a conclusion,humans embrace Big Data because we live in an unpredictable universe that is often capricious. People fell comforted when thwy think they know what is going to happen. They see patterns in random chance. L:And they purge from their thought the reality that a 74 percent chance of victory is a 26 percent chance of defeat. Superstition endures.S:Reality is elastic. Every moment brings new possibilities. That's what makes life intriguing. Okay, we are going to talk about the big data security,Louisa.Imagine being talked about behind your back. Now picture that conversation taking place covertly in your own sitting room, with you unable to hear it.I: That is the modus operandi of SilverPush, an Indian start-up that embeds inaudible sounds in television advertisements. As the advert plays, a high-frequency signal is emitted that can be picked up by a mobile or other device installed with an app containing SilverPush software.S:And this “pairing” — currently targeted at Indian consumers — also identifies users' other nearby devices and allows the company to monitor what they do across those. All without consumers hearing a thing.L: Well, that sounds terrible, but it actually exists. This “cross-device tracking technology”, being explored by other companies including Adobe, is an emblem of a new era with which all of us — governments, companies, charities and consumers — will have to contend.S:In fact, the Royal Statistical Society hosted a conference at Windsor castle to ponder the challenges of Big Data — an overused, underexplained term for both the flood of information churned out by our devices and the potential for this flood to be organised into revelatory and predictive rivers of knowledge.L:Have to say, the ethics and governance surrounding the growing use of data are a right royal mess. Public discussion about how these vast quantities of information should be collected, stored, cross-referenced and exploited is urgently needed. There is excitement about how it might revolutionise healthcare — during outbreaks of disease.S:Such as, search data can be mined for the greater good. Today, however, public engagement largely amounts to public outcry when things go wrong.S: And here is our first problem: most of us click unthinkingly.It is thus questionable whether we have given informed consent to all the ways in which our personal data are subsequently used.L: To demonstrate this, a security company set up a public WiFi spot in the City of London and inserted a “Herod clause” committing users to hand over their firstborn for eternity. Within a short period of time, several people unwittingly bartered away their offspring in return for a free connection.S:so, you say they hand over their firstborn for eternity,this is ridiculous.I:A second challenge arises from the so-called internet of things, when devices bypass humans and talk directly to one another. So my depleted smart fridge could automatically email the supermarket requesting replenishment. But it could also mean my data become a network of electronic spies that can paint a richly detailed picture of my prandial,raising privacy concerns.S:Therefore, the EU adopted the data protection rules,but alongside the new EU rules on data protection, we need something softer: a body of experts and laypeople that can bring knowledge, wisdom and judgment to this fast-moving field. 现在，美国已有了一个由律师、哲学家和人类学家组成的大数据、伦理与社会委员会.I: We have wearable devices that, like Santa, see you when you are sleeping and know when you're awake. It is possible that a company will find a way of deducing — through sentiment analysis of social media postings, visits to charity websites, checks on your bank balance and fitness tracking — if you've been bad or good.L: This is the big data, bring convenience while there are a lot of privacy issues.S:Now, let's hear the words we learned today. They are:Epochal 划时代的 Skepticism 怀疑态度Crunch 处理 Algorithms 算法Nuances 细微差别 Influenza 流行性感冒Hubris 傲慢 Flub 搞错Anecdotes 轶事，奇闻 L: Ok, that's all of today's program.please don't forget to join us soon!see you next time感谢制作苏鑫，感谢制作王紫丞!节目监制：周宸聿编辑：陶麓伊 张燚铭 余若天播音：陶麓伊 张燚铭 余若天制作：苏鑫