Podcasts about Nepali

How did Nepal's ‘Discord revolution' spark so quickly and bring in a new national leader chosen by online poll? On the 8th of September, a group of young Nepali gathered in Kathmandu to protest a social media ban they saw as a heavy-handed crackdown against an anti-corruption movement. A week later, the government has fallen, more than 70 people lie dead after protests were infiltrated by violent groups and the government responded with lethal force, and Nepal has a new Prime Minister, herself nominated via social media. In the latest episode of This Is Not A Drill, Oz Katerji is joined from Kathmandu by journalist and academic Dinesh Kafle. • This episode of This Is Not A Drill is supported by Incogni the service that keeps your private information safe, protects you from identity theft and keeps your data from being sold. There's a special offer for This Is Not A Drill listeners – go to https://incogni.com/notadrill  to get an exclusive 60% off your annual plan. • Support us on Patreon to keep This Is Not A Drill producing thought-provoking podcasts like this. Advertisers! Want to reach smart, engaged, influential people with money to spend? (Yes, they do exist). Some 3.5 MILLION people download and watch our podcasts every month – and they love our shows. Why not get YOUR brand in front of our influential listeners with podcast advertising? Contact ads@podmasters.co.uk to find out more Written and presented by Oz Katerji. Produced by Robin Leeburn. Original theme music by Paul Hartnoll – https://www.orbitalofficial.com. Executive Producer Martin Bojtos. Managing Editor Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor Andrew Harrison. This Is Not A Drill is a Podmasters production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Today we spotlight the work of Nepali agitator, activist, writer and filmmaker Nirvana Bhandary.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Listen to the latest top news from Australia in Nepali. - आजका प्रमुख अस्ट्रेलियन समाचार छोटकरीमा सुन्नुहोस्।

Listen to the top Australian news from the last seven days. - सरकारले एक ग्यास परियोजनालाई विस्तार गर्ने अनुमति दिँदै गर्दा जलवायुको जोखिम कम गर्न सरकार असफल भएको ग्रीन्सको आरोप, अस्ट्रेलियाले पनडुब्बी क्षमता र नौसैनिक जहाज निर्माणका लागि १२ अर्ब अस्ट्रेलियन डलर खर्च गर्दै र एएफएलद्धारा २७ वर्ष पछि स्टेट अफ ओरीजीन फुटबल खेल आयोजना गर्ने घोषणा लगायत यस हप्ताका प्रमुख अस्ट्रेलियन समाचार सुन्नुहोस्।

Rastra Bimochan Timalsena aka "Random Nepali" is a lawyer, and popular YouTube creator known for simplifying law and crime topics. Anjalika Sinha, is a rising commercial law associate, specializing in investment and arbitration law. Both are young legal professionals blending modern legal practice and public engagement.

Listen to the latest top news from Australia in Nepali. - आजका प्रमुख अस्ट्रेलियन समाचार छोटकरीमा सुन्नुहोस्।

Weather update of the capital cities around Australia in the Nepali language. - अस्ट्रेलियाका प्रमुख शहरहरूमा भोलि मौसम कस्तो होला?

Weather update of the capital cities around Australia in the Nepali language. - अस्ट्रेलियाका प्रमुख शहरहरूमा भोलि मौसम कस्तो होला?

Listen to our special radio program first aired on SBS South Asian on Tuesday, 9 September 2025 at 2 PM, focusing on the Gen Z protests in Nepal and the reactions of the Nepali community in Australia. SBS Nepali is a part of SBS South Asian, the destination channel for all South Asians living in Australia. To hear more audio content from SBS Nepali, subscribe to our podcast on any platform, including Apple Podcasts, YouTube Podcasts, and Spotify. SBS Nepali broadcasts a radio program every Tuesday and Thursday at 2 PM on SBS South Asian digital radio and channel 305 on your TV, live from our studios in Sydney and Melbourne. Repeats of these shows are aired every Thursday and Sunday at 4 PM on SBS Radio 2. Every Monday, listen to one full hour of contemporary Nepali songs on SBS South Asian at 2 PM. - नेपालको जेन जी आन्दोलन र त्यस बारे अस्ट्रेलियामा बस्ने नेपाली समुदायको प्रतिक्रिया समेटेर मङ्गलवार, ०९ सेप्टेम्बर २०२५ दिउँसो २ बजे एसबीएस साउथ एसियनमा प्रसारण भएको एसबीएस नेपालीको विशेष रेडियो कार्यक्रम सुन्नुहोस्। हाम्रो रेडियो कार्यक्रम हरेक मङ्गलवार र बिहीवार दिउँसो दुई बजे SBS South Asian मा प्रत्यक्ष प्रसारण हुन्छ। यी रेडियो कार्यक्रम बिहीवार र आइतवार एसबीएस रेडियो दुईमा अपरान्ह ४ देखि ५ बजेसम्म पुन प्रसारण हुन्छ। डिजिटल रेडियोमा SBS South Asian, डिजिटल टिभीको च्यानल 305 मा अथवा SBS Audio App डाउनलोड गरेर पनि श्रोताहरूले यी कार्यक्रम सुन्न सक्नुहुन्छ। यसैगरी SBS on Demand मा गएर वा हाम्रो वेबसाइट sbs.com.au/nepali मार्फत पनि हाम्रो प्रत्यक्ष प्रसारण सुन्न सकिन्छ।

SBS Nepali spoke to Melbourne-based psychiatrist Anupam Pokharel about ways to manage stress and the types of services available in Australia this R U OK day, as many members of the Nepali community continue to speak about their difficulty in dealing with recent developments in their homeland and the impact it is having on them. R U OK day is celebrated every year in Australia on the second Thursday of September as a national day of action dedicated to encouraging people to connect and have meaningful conversations with friends, family, and colleagues who may be struggling with life's challenges - अस्ट्रेलियामा हरेक वर्ष, कोही ठिक छन् कि छैनन् अथवा जीवनमा के-कस्ता सङ्घर्ष भोगिरहेका छन् भनेर बुझ्नका लागि भनेर, सेप्टेम्बरको दोस्रो बिहीवारलाई “आर यु ओके” डेका रूपमा मनाइने चलन छ। र, अस्ट्रेलियामा बस्ने नेपाली प्रवासी समुदायका सदस्यहरूद्वारा केही दिन यता नेपालमा भएका घटनाक्रमले आफूलाई विचलित बनाएको बताउँदै गर्दा, मानसिक तनाव कम गर्ने उपाय तथा अस्ट्रेलियामा उपलब्ध मानसिक स्वास्थ्य सम्बन्धी सेवाहरूबारे, मेलबर्न स्थित मनोचिकित्सक अनुपम पोखरेलसँग एसबीएस नेपालीले गरेको कुराकानी सुन्नुहोस्।

Weather update of the capital cities around Australia in the Nepali language - अस्ट्रेलियाका प्रमुख शहरहरूमा भोलि मौसम कस्तो होला?

Listen to the latest top news from Australia in Nepali. - आजका प्रमुख अस्ट्रेलियन समाचार छोटकरीमा सुन्नुहोस्।

Nepal's President, Ram Chandra Poudel, has named former Chief Justice Sushila Karki as the country's interim Prime Minister. Following her appointment, Prime Minister Karki recommended the dissolution of the House of Representatives, which was then dissolved by Poudel. The National Assembly will continue to function. Karki has been mandated to hold elections within six months, with the House of Representatives elections scheduled for Thursday, 5 March 2026. - नेपालका राष्ट्रपति रामचन्द्र पौडेलद्वारा पूर्वप्रधानन्यायधीश सुशीला कार्कीलाई देशको अन्तरिम प्रधानमन्त्रीमा नियुक्त गर्दै नवनियुक्त प्रधानमन्त्री कार्कीको सिफारिसमा प्रतिनिधिसभा विघटन गरेका छन्। माथिल्लो सदन राष्ट्रिय सभा भने कायमै रहने बताइएको छ र कार्कीलाई छ महिनाभित्र निर्वाचन गर्ने कार्यादेश दिइएको छ जस अनुसार अब सन् २०२६ को मार्च ५, बिहीवारका दिन प्रतिनिधिसभा निर्वाचन हुनेछ।

Weather update of the capital cities around Australia in the Nepali language. - अस्ट्रेलियाका प्रमुख शहरहरूमा भोलि मौसम कस्तो होला?

Stay informed about the significant world events from the past week in Nepali language. - एक नयाँ योजना अन्तर्गत हवाई उडान रद्द वा ढिलाइ भएको अवस्थामा यात्रुहरूले यसको क्षतिपूर्ति पाउने व्यवस्था लागू हुँदै, सोलोमन आइल्यान्ड्समा प्रशान्त राष्ट्रहरूको बैठक सुरु र अस्ट्रेलियामा रहेका भारतीय समुदाय प्रति आफ्नो समर्थन रहेको विपक्षी नेता सुजन लीको भनाइ लगायत यस हप्ताका प्रमुख अस्ट्रेलियन समाचार सुन्नुहोस्।

Nepal's Prime Minister has resigned amid anti-government protests, as demonstrators set fire to Parliament and the homes of some of the country's top political leaders. It comes as a "Gen Z" protest movement was triggered by a ban on social media, which has now been overturned. Concerns have been raised by the Nepali community in Australia, calling for peace in the country.

Listen to the latest top news from Australia in Nepali. - आजका प्रमुख अस्ट्रेलियन समाचार छोटकरीमा सुन्नुहोस्।

Weather update of the capital cities around Australia in the Nepali language. - अस्ट्रेलियाका प्रमुख शहरहरूमा भोलि मौसम कस्तो होला?

On April 13th, 2018, Nepali New Year's Eve, the University of Texas at Tyler revoked full-ride scholarships it had previously awarded to 60 Nepali students. The university described it as "an administrative oversight." But the global education community knew that it was an unprecedented admissions crisis. The scholarships, which included tuition as well as room and board, were revoked well after most other US university application deadlines had passed. Thus, Nepali students had already declined offers from other institutions they had previously applied to. The moment UT Tyler's mass email hit the inboxes of these high-need, high-performing students, some were already midway through the visa process to attend UT Tyler, and all had celebrated the momentous feat of a hard-earned Presidential Scholarship. In the days following, Selena Malla at USEF-Nepal, Kathmandu, issued a call on social media for help. After seeing a call for support from Selena, Joan Liu, a university advisor at the United World College of South East Asia, Singapore, stepped forward to help. Joan assembled a group of counselors from several corners of the world to form a volunteer crisis management team. Joan Liu is on the show to explain how we can step up this September to support Second Chance. Ready to learn more? https://www.secondchance.global/  

Listen to the latest top news from Australia in Nepali. - आजका प्रमुख अस्ट्रेलियन समाचार छोटकरीमा सुन्नुहोस्।

Weather update of the capital cities around Australia in the Nepali language. - अस्ट्रेलियाका प्रमुख शहरहरूमा भोलि मौसम कस्तो होला?

Weather update of the capital cities around Australia in the Nepali language. - अस्ट्रेलियाका प्रमुख शहरहरूमा भोलि मौसम कस्तो होला?

Weather update of the capital cities around Australia in the Nepali language. - अस्ट्रेलियाका प्रमुख शहरहरूमा भोलि मौसम कस्तो होला?

Sabal Shaha is the founder of Garud Securities, Nepal's largest private security firm. Leaving life in Australia, he returned during the Maoist insurgency to build a company that now protects embassies, banks, hotels, and events nationwide. Shah is recognized for modernizing the industry and aims to take Nepali security services global.

Visit Visa Scam: How Nepali Migrants Are Exploited. Discover the urgent realities behind Nepal's soaring 15% labor migration rate in 2025 and why this crisis is unlike any other. This video dives deep into the complex challenges facing Nepali migrants, including exploitation and forced labor by private recruitment agencies, weak foreign labor policies, and the troubling visit visa loophole that fuels corruption and abuse. Learn about the exploitation faced by workers in employer countries and how circular migration traps many Nepalis in cycles of economic vulnerability. We also highlight the heroic rescue of 200 Nepali students during the COVID-19 pandemic and discuss why migrants often remain forgotten despite such efforts. Explore success and failure stories that reveal the true impact of Nepal's current labor migration system and why urgent policy reform is needed now to protect vulnerable workers. Gain insights into the unethical tactics recruitment agencies use, including coded bribery and illegal contracts, and understand how monitoring migrant visas and work details through digital tools could offer some relief. This eye-opening video calls for stronger intervention powers from the Nepalese government and better support for labor migrants to ensure their rights and safety abroad. Stay informed and share to raise awareness about Nepal's foreign labor crisis in 2025.

Stay informed about the significant world events from the past week in Nepali language. - अफगानिस्तानमा गएको शक्तिशाली भूकम्पमा परि १,४०० भन्दा बढीको मृत्यु, पोर्चुगलमा पर्यटक बोकेको ट्राम दुर्घटनामा पर्दा १५ जनाको मृत्यु र टी-ट्वेन्टी शृङ्खलामा श्रीलङ्काद्वारा जिम्बाब्वे चार विकेटले पराजित लगायत गत सात दिनका प्रमुख विश्व घटना सुन्नुहोस्।

Listen to the latest top news from Australia in Nepali. - आजका प्रमुख अस्ट्रेलियन समाचार छोटकरीमा सुन्नुहोस्।

The 2025 Mount Everest season brought record-breaking summits, tough weather, and fewer fatalities than in recent years. In this episode of All About Everest, host Pauline Reynolds Nuttall recaps the official spring 2025 climbing season, including Kami Rita Sherpa's record 31st summit, Tashi Gyalzen Sherpa's four ascents in two weeks, Kenton Cool's 19th climb, Passang Dawa's 29th, and Anja Blacha's no-oxygen success. We also cover Tyler Andrews' bold speed ascent attempt, the season's challenging winds, and the five confirmed fatalities on the Nepali side.Looking ahead, we preview the Fall 2025 season with Polish ski mountaineer Andrzej Bargiel's daring attempt to ski Everest without oxygen, plus renewed intrigue after reports of Andrew “Sandy” Irvine's foot discovery. We also spotlight new Everest books in 2025, including Enough by Melissa Arnot Reid and Climbing Mount Everest by Dalton Rains. Finally, Pauline shares updates on the podcast, now available on YouTube with a free listener community on Skool. Subscribe for Everest news, records, history, and stories from the top of the world. You can find Pauline on socials @mamabearoutdoors.com or @allabout everest and on her website MamaBearOutdoors.com.

Listen to the latest top news from Australia in Nepali. - आजका प्रमुख अस्ट्रेलियन समाचार छोटकरीमा सुन्नुहोस्।

Weather update of the capital cities around Australia in the Nepali language. - अस्ट्रेलियाका प्रमुख शहरहरूमा भोलि मौसम कस्तो होला?

Weather update of the capital cities around Australia in the Nepali language. - अस्ट्रेलियाका प्रमुख शहरहरूमा भोलि मौसम कस्तो होला?

Listen to the latest top news from Australia in Nepali. - आजका प्रमुख अस्ट्रेलियन समाचार छोटकरीमा सुन्नुहोस्।

The Institute for Integrated Development Studies (IIDS) is conducting a study in co-operation with Australia's Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade to understand the needs of Australia's Nepali diaspora. Sneha Ghimire, a Senior Program and Research Assistant at the not-for-profit think tank, spoke to SBS Nepali about the research and how its findings will be used to design policies that benefit both countries. - अस्ट्रेलिया र नेपालका नीति निर्माणमा टेवा पुर्‍याउने उद्देश्यका साथ नेपालस्थित एक गैर-नाफामुलक अध्ययन संस्था सर्वाङ्गीण विकास अध्ययन केन्द्र (आइआइडीएस)ले अस्ट्रेलियामा बसोबास गर्ने नेपाली समुदाय लक्षित एक अध्ययन गरिरहेको छ। अस्ट्रेलिया सरकारको विदेश मामिला तथा व्यापार विभागसँगको सहकार्यमा जारी उक्त अनुसन्धानले अस्ट्रेलियाको बढ्दो नेपाली समुदायका आवश्यकताहरू बुझ्ने र भविष्यमा त्यही हिसाबका नीति निर्माण गर्न मद्दत गर्ने आइआइडीएसकी सिनियर प्रोग्राम एन्ड रिसर्च एसिस्टेन्ट स्नेहा घिमिरेले एसबीएस नेपालीसँगको कुराकानीमा बताएकी छिन्।

Weather update of the capital cities around Australia in the Nepali language. - अस्ट्रेलियाका प्रमुख शहरहरूमा भोलि मौसम कस्तो होला?

Weather update of the capital cities around Australia in the Nepali language. - अस्ट्रेलियाका प्रमुख शहरहरूमा भोलि मौसम कस्तो होला?

Stay informed about the latest Nepali community events in Australia. - अस्ट्रेलियाका विभिन्न ठाउँमा गए हप्ता आयोजना भएका र यो साता आयोजना हुने केही नेपाली सामुदायिक कार्यक्रमहरू बारे एक अपडेट। नोट: तपाईँले पनि कुनै कार्यक्रम आयोजना गर्दै हुनुहुन्छ भने हामीलाई इमेल वा सोसल मिडिया मार्फत उक्त जानकारी दिन सक्नुहुनेछ। यसबारे विस्तृत जानकारी पाउन पोडकास्ट सुन्नुहोस्।

A three-day festival has begun in Sydney's Burwood Park on Friday, 29 August, with hundreds of community members participating in a special urn parade. SBS Nepali spoke with Bishnu Hamal from the Greater Sydney Nepalese Multicultural Centre (GSNMC), the organiser of the festival, popular Nepali priest and orator Pundit Dinbandhu Pokharel, and members of the Nepali community who participated in the parade. - सिड्नीको बरवुड पार्कमा तीन दिने सिड्नी आध्यात्मिक महोत्सव सुरु भएको छ। भिक्टोरिया, क्वीन्सल्यान्ड र वेस्टर्न अस्ट्रेलिया पछि न्यु साउथ वेल्समा पनि नेपाली बहुसांस्कृतिक केन्द्र निर्माणका लागि भन्दै उक्त कार्यक्रम आयोजना भएको हो। कलश यात्रा सहित शुक्रवार, २९ अगस्टदेखि सुरू उक्त महोत्सवमा भाग लिन नेपालबाट आएका पण्डित दीनबन्धु पोखरेल, ग्रेटर सिड्नी नेप्लिज मल्टिकल्चरल सेन्टरका अध्यक्ष विष्णु हमाल लगायत त्यहाँ उपस्थित समुदायका सदस्यसँग एसबीएस नेपालीले गरेको कुराकानी सुन्नुहोस्।

Weather update of the capital cities around Australia in the Nepali language. - अस्ट्रेलियाका प्रमुख शहरहरूमा भोलि मौसम कस्तो होला?

The government's First Home Buyer Guarantee scheme will give thousands of renters, who struggle to save the usual 20 per cent home deposit, the chance to enter the property market. But experts say the scheme, brought forward by three months to October, may not be as helpful as it initially sounds. They say it leaves those using the scheme financially vulnerable and shuts out low-income earners. We spoke with financial advisor Bishwas Bhattarai and asked him about the scheme's specifics and other topics related to the Australian real estate market. - अस्ट्रेलियामा आफ्नो पहिलो घर किन्न लागेका मानिसहरूले पाँच प्रतिशत डिपोजिट बुझाए पुग्ने भएको छ। पहिलो घर किन्न चाहिने कुल मूल्यको २० प्रतिशत ‘डाउन पेमेन्ट'को १५ प्रतिशत ग्यारेन्टी सङ्घीय सरकार आफूले लिने योजना ‘होम ग्यारेन्टी स्किम' सबै योग्य अस्ट्रेलियनहरूका लागि अक्टोबर १ देखि लागू गर्ने घोषणा गरेपछि, अस्ट्रेलियन नागरिक तथा पीआर भएका अस्ट्रेलियाबासीहरूले आफूले किन्न चाहेको घरको कुल भाउको पाँच प्रतिशत रकम मात्र जम्मा गरे पनि घरधनी हुन पाउने भएका हुन्। यो योजनाको थुप्रैले प्रशंसा गरेता भए तापनि आपूर्तिसँग यसलाई मिलान नगराए, घरजग्गाको भाउ आकासिने सम्भावना रहने केही विश्लेषकहरूको भनाई छ। उक्त सरकारी योजना लगायतका अस्ट्रेलियाको घर-जग्गा बजारका बारेमा आर्थिक सल्लाहकार विश्वास भट्टराईसँग एसबीएस नेपालीले गरेको कुराकानी सुन्नुहोस्।

A weekly magazine-style radio show featuring the voices and stories of Asians and Pacific Islanders from all corners of our community. The show is produced by a collective of media makers, deejays, and activists. Important Links: Hmong Innovating Politics: Website | Instagram Asian Refugees United: Website | Instagram Bhutanese American Refugee Rights website Transcript Swati Rayasam: You are tuned in to Apex Express on KPFA. My name is Swati Rayasam.  Since the onset of the Trump administration, immigrant and refugee communities have been under increased attack, being kidnapped in broad daylight, detained in unsanitary and unsafe conditions, and deported to countries many of them barely know. All without due process or communication to their loved ones and communities. On tonight's episode, we're focusing on a particular segment of our immigrant and refugee community, Hmong and Bhutanese refugees. Both of these targeted communities are stateless with no land to call their own, and their deportation carries the very real danger of disappearance and death. Robin Gurung from Asian Refugees United and Kao Ye Thao from Hmong innovating Politics, discuss their community and personal refugee stories, and talk about the intersection of the US' deeply broken immigration and criminal legal systems, otherwise known as crimmigration. We also get to hear from the wives of two detained refugees, one Bhutanese and one Hmong, who are currently fighting to keep their families together and to protect their loved ones from the dangers of deportation as stateless people. I also want to note because this is a rapidly developing situation, that this episode was recorded on August 13th, 2025, and is being released on August 28th, 2025. For the most recent updates, please go to bhutaneserefugeerights.org or check out the Pardon Refugees campaign. Now, here's Miko. Miko: Welcome to Apex Express. Thank you so much for being here today. I'm so glad to bring you all together in this time. I'm wondering if I could ask you each to introduce yourselves and tell us a little bit about the community your organization serves and what you do, and let's start with Kao Ye.  Kao Ye: Hello everyone, and thank you for making space- my name is Kao Ye Tao. I use she her pronouns, and I work as the director of policy and partnerships with an organization called Hmong Innovating Politics. We are an organization that serves Hmong youth and families in Sacramento and Fresno, which holds two of our largest Hmong American communities in California. And our work with Hmong youth and families is really about developing their leadership to organize towards social justice and to get the resources that their communities deserve. Miko: Thank you, Kao Ye and Robin, could you please introduce yourself? Robin: Sure. My name is Robin Gurung. I use he, him, his, I'm from the Nepali speaking Bhutanese community. I live in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. my role at Asian Refugees United is the co-founder and the co-executive director. We have our program in California and Pennsylvania. California programs are, are serving Asian diaspora and then, Pennsylvania programs are focused serving the Nepal speaking Bhutanese community. We work in the intersection of arts and healing, storytelling, civic engagement, leadership development. Thank you. Miko: Thanks Robin and I am your host Miko Lee, lead producer at Apex Express. And all of us are part of a network called AACRE Asian Americans for Civil Rights and Equality, which is a network of progressive Asian American groups. So you all work with refugee populations. I'm wondering if you could tell a little bit more about the backstory of your community, and also if you feel comfortable about how you personally came to be a refugee in the United States. And, Robin, I'd love to start with you on that one. Robin: Sure. My community is Nepali speaking, Bhutanese refugee community. And we are ethnically Nepali, which means culture wise and language wise we speak Nepali and follow the Nepali culture tradition. Our ancestors like maybe in 18 hundreds, 19 hundreds migrated from Nepal to Bhutan and became the citizen of that country. And most people don't know about Bhutan, it's a very tiny country between China and India. And, if people know about Bhutan, then people know it through the cross national happiness concept, Bhutan is considered the happiest country in the world. So our ancestors were in mostly in the southern area of Bhutan for generations, they became the citizen. They had their own home, their own land. And then later, 1980s, early nineties, there was a policy by the government of Bhutan, which is the monarchy government system- king rules the country. They brought a policy called One Nation, One People Policy. Which means all different groups of people would have to follow the same culture, same religion, kind of follow the same dress code and because of that policy all people were forced to stay away from following our own culture or our own religion, which, most of our folks were Hindu. Our people protested against it and because of that, the government expelled over a hundred thousand of our community members. And, they expelled to India and then from like India wouldn't allow us to stay and we had to resettle in Nepal in seven different refugee camps under different international agencies like U-N-H-C-R and other agencies. Miko: And then Robin, can you tell a little bit about your personal story and how you came here? Robin: Yeah. Yeah. So 1992 is when my family had to leave Bhutan. And at that time I was three years old. I remember growing up in a refugee camp in Nepal, from three years until I was 23 years. So 20 years of my life I was in a refugee camp in Nepal. And in 2012, I came to US through the refugee resettlement program introduced to our camps in 2008, and through it US agreed to resettle 60,000 of our committee members. By 2017, I think US has resettled about 70 to 80,000 of our Bhutanese community members.   Miko: Thank you so much for sharing. Kao Ye I wonder if you could talk about your community and the refugee resettlement program that your community was a part of. Kao Ye: The Hmong American community, or just the Hmong community overall, is a group that's indigenous to East and Southeast Asia. And through our ancient history, we've always been a stateless, people fighting for our autonomy to live to practice our customs and our culture. And particularly where we come into this history of refugee is during the Vietnam War where many Hmong people, alongside other ethnic groups in Laos, were caught in the crossfire of the United States conflict in Southeast Asia. And so with the Vietnam War. The Hmong as well as many other ethnic communities that lived, in the hills and the mountains were recruited in covert operations by the CIA to fight back against the Vietnamese, the Northern Vietnamese communist forces, as well as the Putet Lao. And so once the US withdrew from Southeast Asia, it created a vacuum of conflict and violence that our people had to escape from in order to survive. And so after the Vietnam War in 1975, we saw the mass displacement of many Southeast Asian ethnic communities, including Hmong families. And that is where my history starts because my parents were born in Laos and because of this war, they fled to Thailand refugee camps and lived there for a few years until they were able to come to the United States in 1992. And I'm actually I'm a child of refugees and so what I know about this part of my history comes from the stories of my grandparents who raised me as well as what little I could learn in the textbooks of public education. And so it wasn't actually until going to college and. Being able to access more of this literature, this history that I really learned about what the United States had done in Southeast Asia and the ramifications of that for myself and my family and so many others, refugees that. Have to have had to resettle in the United States. And so it's definitely a history that runs very close, because we have relatives that live through that refugee experience. And so it is very well and alive. And so as we now approach this conversation around ICE and deportations, it really is a reminder of the trauma that our people face, but are still facing as a people that have been seen as disposable to the United States government. Miko: Thanks, Kao Ye. Let's talk a little bit more about that. But first I wanna say, did either of you ever hear about refugees in your textbooks? I never did. So I'm wondering if, you said you learned a little bit about that from textbooks. Was that something you learned in public education. Kao Ye: I did not learn about refugees or refugees experience. I learned about the war and as a Hmong kid it brought me so much delight to try to scroll through the history books just to see if Hmong people were mentioned. And even then the refugee experience was not ever something that we talked about. I felt like definitely not in, in high school. I think it was college really, that then started to articulate those terms and that Southeast Asian identity, that is really where I think I also became politicized in that. Miko: Yeah, because I think in textbooks there might be a little section on the Vietnam War, but it does not talk about the, all the Southeast Asian ethnic peoples that actually fought in the war. We have to dig that information out on our own, but I wanna move us to what is happening right now. So the Trump administration has created. Culture of fear among immigrants and refugees, these ICE raids and disappearances. It is so intense and using immigrants as a fear tool to prop up white supremacy is so blatant right now. I'm wondering if you can each talk about, how this administration's policies are impacting your communities. And, Robin, let's start with you. What is happening right now? I know since the end of March, can you share a little bit about what's been happening with Bhutanese Americans? Robin: Sure. Sure. So our people were settled to this country with the hope that this is going to be our home. But starting March of this year, with the new policies of this current administration, we started seeing abrupt, ICE arrest in our communities. People were picked up from home, their workplaces, and from their ICE, check-ins. And, since March, within I would say two to three months, more than 72 of our community members were picked up, mostly from Pennsylvania and then Ohio, and also from other states like New York, Georgia, North Dakota. So until now, we have, the records of at least 50 people who have been deported to Bhutan and at least 72 who are detained. So more than 30 people are [at risk] of getting detained. The nature of the ICE arrests that we have seen is we don't know whether the due processes were followed. They made it so hard for the families to look for attorneys, and also to track their family members. Within days family members would find their loved ones disappeared, and then they wouldn't be able to talk to them they wouldn't be able to track them and provide the support that they needed. So for us as a community organization we did not anticipate this and we were not prepared for this. And, and we didn't have the infrastructure to really address this, right? So it became such challenging work for us. Like within days we had to mobilize our people. We had to mobilize our teams to help family members with legal support, emotional support, mobilize our community members to update what's happening with this situation. The rapid response work, know your rights clinics that we had to set up. So on one hand it's the detention and deportation in the US and on the other hand, when our people were deported to Bhutan, what we're seeing is within 24 hours, they are being expelled from Bhutan to India, and then from India because India wouldn't accept them as well, they had to enter Nepal because for most of these Deportee, they're very young, they were born in refugee camps, and for most of them, the only known land is Nepal. Right. And they had to enter Nepal without documentation. And then some of them were found in refugee camps. And most of them are unknown. Like they're, they have disappeared. Miko: So that is so much over the last few months that ARU has had to step in and take a leading, role in this situation that has impacted the Bhutanese community from focusing on wellness and youth development to suddenly translating materials into Nepali, translating, know Your Rights materials into Nepali, hosting all these different events, the work that you have been doing is really powerful. I wonder if you could share with us the story of Mohan Karki, who is a community member that's currently detained in Michigan. Robin: Sure. So, Mohan Karki is now in detention in Michigan and he's a community member member who lived in Ohio. So he was detained by ICE during his regular ICE check-in , I believe in April, they detained him and then he was taken for deportation. And last minute, the families and the community had to come together and then appeal the deportation. Right now he's in Michgan detention center and his wife, who was pregnant and had due date, when Mohan was being deported on June 10, is now fighting day and night to stop the deportation and also to bring Mohan home. Right now, Asian Refugees United and other community partners, like AWPAL, Asian Law Caucus are working together to support Mohan's family, to bring Mohan home and also running a, GoFund me fundraiser, to help the family pay the legal fees. Miko: Thanks Robin. And we're gonna listen to Tikas story right now. Tika Basnet: Hi, my name is Tika Basnet I'm from Ohio and I'm fighting my husband deportation case.  So on April seven, a lot of people told us not to go to the ICE office, but my husband wanna follow the rules, he wanna go there. We went to the Westerville office inside And we sit down, we talk to each other. Nothing will go wrong. And suddenly ICE told us to come inside and they told us that my husband got travel documents from Bhutan. I told them like it is not safe for my husband to get deport in Bhutan, all the Bhutanese people run away in 1990s due to the ethnic cleansing and if my husband get deported in Bhutan, he will either gonna get killed, tortured, disappeared, imprisoned, I don't know what will happen, but they did not listen to me. So they detained my husband and I came at the parking lot and his mom saw me coming alone. So they start crying and I told them like, Mohan is gone and this is the last time I think I'm gonna see my husband. the time that my husband was taken away from Butler County on June 10 I was 41 weeks pregnant. I was supposed to deliver on, June 10. But no, I told the doctor I change my delivery time. I am not gonna go now like I need to fight for my husband. Like, When Bhutanese people started coming here in 2007. Third party promise us that in here in United States, we will get our identity. That identity will never taken away. They promise us that the way Bhutan take our identity, they will not gonna do that. we thought that this is our home. We thought that having a green card, having a citizenship, it is permanently, but no, we are, we all are wrong. And that identity is taken away within a second. And we became stateless again. So, my husband, Mohan Karki he just arrived in the United States he been here less than two years when the incident happened. He did not understand the law. He did not understand the culture. He did not know anything.  My husband he was only 17 years old, high school student coming from school to home. On the way to reach their apartment, there is one private house. They are just trying to go to the shortcut from the backyard. So some neighbor call 9 1 1. And that only one mistake lead to deportation.  The place that we come from, there is no boundaries. In Nepal, we are allowed to go anybody property We are allowed to walk somebody else house and because of the cultural difference, he's paying price right now.  At that time, nobody can speak English. They cannot understand what police were saying and Nepali interpreter told my husband that if you say I'm guilty, you'll out of prison soon. But if you did not say I'm guilty, you'll end up in prison for 20 to 25 years. High school student he's scared he just say, I'm guilty, and he did not know what is deportation mean. He did not know what he was signing. Nobody informed him what he was signing. That signing was deportation. What happened in 2013 is impacting us in 2025 and still he wish he did not cross somebody else backyard at that time. He wish he knew that he wasn't allowed to cross somebody else's backyard. I don't know what will our future is gonna be, but I hope that he gets second chance. His community love him. He love people. He was working as a truck driver. He paid taxes. He was supporting his parent. He was supporting me. My daughter deserve to have a father. You know, she's just one month. But now the dream that I was hoping one day I'm gonna build with my husband that is taken away and I'm left alone with this child. I already went through a lot without him, i'm the only one that fighting for my husband case. The deportation is not only breaking one family, but it is breaking everybody, the community and the family. And I hope that people can support me so I can fight for my husband case. Like I really need so many attorney. I need criminal attorney to open up his 2013 case. And I have wonderful, wonderful attorney, my husband get stay off removal, but that is not guarantee my husband can get deport anytime. The attorney fee are really expensive and he still needs support. The US made bhutanese people a promise of home. We belong here. Stop the detention and deportation. Stop deporting Bhutanese people. We are stateless. We don't have country, don't have a home. This is our home. US is our home. We belong here. Miko: Of the 72 people, Mohan is the first Bhutanese refugee that we actually have a stay of release on, as Robin was saying earlier, most of the folks were moved from state to state, so you can't really get a lawyer in that time. And as we all know, nonprofit immigration lawyers are under a lot of stress because of the attack of this administration. So it makes it incredibly complicated, let alone the legal fees that it costs to help support people going through this. And right now, Mohan has a stay on his, deportation and the lawyer that they do have is drafting up a letter to be able to release him into the community and also overturn his original case that happened as a minor in Georgia, which was a ridiculous case where he was leaving school, early high school, first year in the country, leaving high school early, and walked with his friends across a backyard. And the neighbor that they walked through their yard called the police, and they arrested him along with his friends for trespassing, they gave him paperwork that he didn't even understand. He signed it along with a interpreter they gave him false information to say he'd be locked up for 25 years, or if he signed this papers, that would be fine. He could go and what the papers said was it changed his charge into a felony and had him sign a letter of deportation. So this is part of the failure of our American legal system that we're not providing adequate information. It is a lack of due process. Thankfully, the work that Asian Law Caucus and United States of Stateless and other community activists are doing to call this out and help work with us is really critical. I wanna turn now to Kao Ye how this administrations is impacting Hmong refugees, and how is it similar or different to the experiences that Robin is describing for the Nepali speaking Bhutanese community? Kao Ye: I echoed many of the sentiments and the challenges that Robin shared around what we as nonprofit, grassroots organizations are having to build and grapple with just the limited infrastructure that we have to deal with the current ICE disappearances and deportation and all the support that's needed for the families. And so thank you Robin, for sharing that. I wanted to start broad a little bit because I think that this Trump administration is happening in the backdrop of the 50th year commemoration of the end of the wars in Southeast Asia and the refugee resettlement. We had over 1.1 million Southeast Asians resettle to the United States, the largest immigration resettlement, in American history. And so this year brings so many complexities, I think as a Southeast Asian community where there is a level of looking back at policies that have impacted us and have failed, but also looking forward what is the community that we are building together to move and progress together. And so there are those complexities, I think as the fact that it's the 50th year and like, this is what we're dealing with. This is the trauma that we are grappling with. And so I wanted to put that out front and center because even I think within our communities , there is no necessarily enlightenment in terms of how we talk about what is happening to our people and how they're getting deported unjustly. So that is why it is so important to have this dialogue within our communities as well as the solidarity that we also share with the Bhutanese community and other immigrant groups too. I think that in many of our Southeast Asian communities, their reasons for deportations is very tied to past convictions, and so this is the intersection between criminal law and immigration law. And it makes it complex because our people are now having to consult not just an immigration lawyer, but like criminal attorney so that they could really assess like what kind of relief they can get in order to mitigate, impending deportations. And then also miko you had shared about the lack of adequate legal service or representation because many of these folks, right, that have had these convictions that have now served their time and are simply members of our community that make our community rich. They are now having to revisit removal orders that they signed, thinking that, oh, nothing necessarily was gonna happen because they don't have a repatriation agreement. So, in our community, there was never a thought that we were going to be deported back to our home country because of that policy. And so that is a big contributing factor as to why the Hmong community, we don't have that infrastructure to really support our members who have gone through the criminal justice system and now have those removal orders. And so HIP, as well as many other grassroots. Sadly we did have to scramble to put this know your rights information together because again, I don't think that there was visibility in the need for us in this conversation around immigration Southeast Asians are a segment of our API community and so it just, I think, multiplied the invisibility that we already faced as a group of Southeast Asians. And so the support was definitely not there. And, to Robin's point, we did our best to try to put this information together to our community, starting with the Know Your Rights. And then we also realized like it was more complex than that, and that the legal supports were so necessary because everyone's case was different. I think what we're still dealing with now is that there's always been a lack of trust between our community members and government entities and nonprofit organizations. And so, if someone is dealing with the situation, they wanna go to, a partner that they trust to help them, even if they're not necessarily equipped to do that work, is that they're going to only the people that they trust because there is such a big mistrust. And so I think that, there is still the level of trust building that is needed to be done within our community so that folks feel comfortable to come to us or come to other people for support. And I think what makes me feel emotional is just when I hear about community members feeling hopeless and just feeling like there's nothing that they can do and that level of disempowerment to me, I think is something that is real. And I can't say that we can't combat it, but I think that it is about being able to find different outlets of support for them. Miko: Thank you for lifting that up. And just , in terms of the numbers, over three months, March, April and May, there were about 72 Bhutanese Americans that have been detained. And this is just kind of starting up with the Hmong community. So we had 15 that were detained from Minnesota and another 10 right now are being held in Michigan. And we also see this happening with Vietnamese, Laotian, Cambodians, and Myan folks. All of these folks as Kao Ye you're pointing out, have had common threads, which is connections with the system, with the criminal legal/ justice system and crimmigration is something that in the AACRE network we've been talking about and working on, which is really about the education to prison, to deportation pipeline. And one of the things that this administration had talked about is, let's get rid of all the murderers and the rapists. You know, this like scare language about people that are convicted criminals, let's get rid of them all. But the fact of the matter. The vast majority of all of these people are people like Mohan Karki, a cultural misunderstanding that happened when he was a child. Like Lou Yang, who is Hmong refugee detained in Michigan right now. Somebody who was involved in something as a kid, but has since then become a leader in the community. So let's take a moment and listen to the spouse of Lou Yang, a Hmong refugee detained in Michigan in July. Anne Vu: My name is Anne Vu and I come before you today with a heart full of hope. Sorrow and a plea for justice. I am a proud American, a mother of six, the daughter of Hmong refugees who would gain their citizenship, and the wife of a man called Lou Yang, who is now detained and faced with potential deportation from the only country that he's ever known. Lou has lived in Michigan since October, 1979. He was born stateless in a refugee camp in Nongkai Thailand and his family fled Laos due to persecution. His father and like many others, served with the United States force during the Vietnam War as part of the Secret War, recruited by CIA in Laos, a conflict that most Americans do not know has happened. The Hmong were recruited by the CIA as part of the Secret War to help America during the Vietnam War. But when the war ended and the US withdrew, we were as the Hmongs declared enemy of the state. What followed was genocide, polarization and persecution by the state, and it was because of our alliance, the promise made by the US government that the Hmong refugees were legally settled here under certain migration of refugee laws and acts. And Lou arrived here as a young, toddler in infancy. In 1997, he was arrested on an alleged accomplice in an attempt home invasion, second degree. He was in the vehicle at the time. He never entered the home. He literally was still a juvenile at that time. He had a court appointed attorney and was advised to take a plea without being told it would affect his immigration status for the rest of his life. This is the reality of our immigration system – long, complex, confusing and devastating, unforgiving. It is not built for people like us, people like Lou, people who have served their time, rebuilt their lives and have nowhere else to go. We've walked this legal path, we've stayed together in the lines, and yet we are here punished today. Lou has no other charges, no current legal issues, no history of violence. He is not a flight risk. He is not a danger to our public safety. He is a father, my husband, a son, a son-in-law, a grandson and a brother to many, and our leader and a provider to our community, and to my family. He renews his work authorization and follows every rule asked of him no matter how uncertain the future felt. Together, we've raised six beautiful children. They're all proud Americans. Lou has contributed to Michigan's economy for decades working in our automotive industry and now he is gone and all that he is built is unraveling and the community is heartbroken. We didn't come from wealth. We didn't have every opportunity handed to us because we didn't come seeking a land of opportunity. We came here because of survival. We had to build from the ground up. But the most important thing was Lou and I, we had each other. We had our families, our friends, and our neighbors. We had a shared commitment to build a better life, grounded in love, respect, and purpose. And somehow that's still not enough. For years, we were told like other Hmong families that Laos in Thailand would never take us back. And that has changed. In June, 2025 the US imposed a partial travel ban on Laos, citing visa overstays, and lack of deportation cooperation. And in response, Laos began issuing these documents under pressure. Today over 4,800, including Hmong, Myan, and the other ethnic minorities are facing removal to Laos and to many other countries, many have never stepped foot in a country that they are now being sent to. Lou is Stateless like many others that is detained with him. None of these countries recognize him. He was born in the Thailand refugee camp, it does not recognize him nor qualify him for any sort of Thai citizenship and I'll tell you guys right now if forced to return, he will face danger because of his family's deep ties to the CIA and United States military. Deporting him turns him, a civil servant and respected community leader, into a political casualty, it would be a grave and irreversible injustice. To deport him now is to punish him to death. Once again, 50 years later, as we celebrate resilience this year across the nation, we are now celebrating a fight within our own grounds, right here in United States, right here in Michigan. We're now fighting the same fight within our own country. Thousands of Southeast Asian Americans, many that entered legally admitted as refugees are being deported for decade old offenses they've longed paid for. America is our country. All we ask is the right to stay in the home that we've helped to build and work hard to protect. We are not seeking special treatment. We are asking for justice, compassion, and a second chance in this country to claim what we believe in. To Governor Whitmer and members of Congress and all elected officials, please help bring Lou and the many others home. Urge ICE and DHS to release him on humanitarian grounds. Help his case. Help us preserve the integrity of our laws and the dignity of our families. And to the public allies and the media. Please call our elected officials. Please call these offices.  Please share Lou's story. We need voices. Voices louder than ours alone. It is hard times you guys. It is real. And I speak to you from the bottom of my heart. Please help me and our families in the many that are suffering. This is our home. These are our children. This is my husband and this is our fight. Let him come home. Let our families be whole again, and let America keep its promise. Thank you guys for hearing me. Miko: Lou Young is a community leader. Michigan, who actually runs a nonprofit in support of Hmong folks in that community, and is targeted and also has a stay of removal. So we're doing a targeted campaign for both of these folks, Lou Yang and Mohan Karki, to be able to get them released to overturn their original convictions and they also have spouses that are telling their stories and telling the impact these detentions have had. Because while this current administration talks about getting rid of criminals, what they are actually doing is breaking apart families and community. Swati Rayasam: You are tuned in to Apex Express on 94.1 KPFA, 89.3 KPFB in Berkeley, 88.1 KFCF in Fresno and online@kpfa.org. Coming up is Deporting the Pilgrim from the Anakbayan Long Beach Mayday Mix tape.   Swati Rayasam: That was please be strong, featuring Hushed, loudmouth and Joe handsome. And before that was deporting the pilgrim from the Unec Bayan Long Beach Mayday Mixtape. Now back to the show. Miko:  I wanna shift us a little bit to talking about Asian american representation in the larger fabric of immigration justice in the United States. Mostly many of our Asian communities have been like isolated, not really involved in the broader immigration movement. And I'm wondering if you could talk a little bit about the difficulty and nuance of bringing your community struggle to the forefront because many of us heard about the Venezuelans and the Mexicans that have been deported and what was going on, but we don't hear as much about these stories of our Asian sisters and brothers. I wonder if one of you could give voice to that. Robin: Before going there can I add something to  Miko: of course.  Robin: crimmigration conversation? So when you all are sharing about that, I was thinking about, the justice system in this country and what we are seeing right now is a broken justice system. Like you said, Miko, where families are separated where families are broken, and what I don't understand is, when, let's say your loved one gets into trouble, makes a mistake, and gets into a trouble, then, as a human being, like, don't you want your loved ones to rebuild their lives? Like Yes, of course there is a system that you have to follow, the laws that you have to follow, but at the end, I think we all want our loved ones to come back, rebuild their lives, right? And what we're seeing in this country is they're constantly breaking the families. And I don't see how we are going to build a better future when we are constantly, hurting the families. And in the cases of detention and deportation, what we're seeing is the double punishment. Like the mistakes that they had made, but then throughout their life, they have to go through that, a continuous cycle of being punished. And not just the individuals, but their family members have also go through the challenges, the suffering, right? And in the case of Bhutanese from double punishment to double expulsion to this, the state of being statelessness. Right? So what kind of future we are imagining when an individual has to go through that continuous cycle of being punished and not having the opportunity to rebuild their lives. So that's a big question mark that I think, we all need to think about. To your later question around my community and the larger Asian American context or the national context. My community is relatively new to this country. We lived, almost two decades in a refugee camp, which was a enclosed camp. And our lives were dependent on foreign aids like UNHCR or ILWF. Pretty much I would say we had our own world over there. And for us to work outside the refugee camp was illegal. There was no laws that gave us the permission to work outside. So we were not pretty much exposed to the outer world. So for us to come to US was a big step. Which means pretty much from basic every day stuffs like, you know, using a bathroom, using a kitchen, taking a bus. All of those were foreign for us. So for our community to really tap into the education system, the political landscape of this country. And also like the experience of being expelled for voicing our, our opinions, for fighting for our rights. Right? So for us, for our community to kind of step in into the politics, it's like re-traumatizing ourselves. I would say there are a lot of barriers, multi-layered barriers for our community members to really tap into the larger political, like socio political landscape, from language barriers to culture barriers to education, to pretty much everything. So right now, the way our committee has been being attacked. It's a surprise to the community. And also it is like kind of traumatizing the community and taking us back to the same place of feeling, insecure, feeling like we don't have a home. And we did hope that this is legally, this is going to be a home. Because after coming to the US most of us became the legal citizens of this country and we started rebuilding our lives. Now it's kind of like going back to the same circle of statelessness. Miko: Thank you for sharing about that. Kao Ye, would you like to add to that? Kao Ye: When I think of the Hmong American community and even the Southeast Asian community and why the narratives of what is happening still feels very invisible. I think of how our community, we were assimilating for survival. And I speak on that as a child of my refugee parents and siblings where growing up we were taught to, listen, not speak out, not cause trouble. Go through the system, listen to authority, listen to law enforcement. And because of that, I feel it's shaped a culture of fear. Fear to dissent and fear to speak out because we care so much about the stability of our families. And we wanted to protect ourselves, because of everything we've gone through with the war. And we are finding that it's been challenging for our community members to come forward with their stories. Honestly, we're still sitting on that and we're still kind of sitting through like, why is there that tension? You know, I feel like folks are going through a lot and even folks have, our impacted loved ones, but they're afraid to tell their story because of fear of of retaliation. And so I think that there is a level of, I think that lack of even psychological safety, but real, physical, real financial safety that people have. And I think that being a factor to the assimilation, but also this facade of like the American dream and like if we don't just disrupt, if we don't speak out, we will be protected. And, white supremacy, right? Like we will be okay. And it's a facade because we know that because our communities are the ones getting kidnapped and getting deported. Right. And so I think there is that fear, but there's also recognition of this now, this facade that the silence doesn't protect us and that there is a real need for us to really, be strong in speaking out, not just for our SEA siblings that are impacted, but for all of our immigrant groups, even the Bhutanese community, right. That's been impacted during this time. And so I, yeah, I think it is that multi-layered experience of being a Southeast Asian refugee community on top of, being part of this AAPI umbrella. AAPI we are not homogenous. We all have very unique histories as to how we have dealt with the systems in this country and how we came into this country. And so I think it's been challenging to make space for those nuances. And at the end of the day, I still see the interconnections that we all have together too. And so, I think it's the willingness to make space for those different stories. And I am finding that more of our ethnic media, our smaller news outlets are more willing to cover those stories as opposed to, these larger mainstream outlets. Like they're not covering those stories, but we are. Miko: Thank you. Oh, both of you have brought up so much today about our failed criminal justice system, about us punishing people as opposed to rehabilitating people and punishing them more than once. We brought up questions around statelessness and the impact that it has, and I just recently learned that the United States does not have any policy on Statelessness. So one of the things that this coalition of folks is trying to do is to get a congressional hearing to help the United States develop policy around statelessness, because it is actually our responsibility and our duty to do that. The other thing I hear you both talking about is this good immigrant, bad immigrant trope, which we've heard of a lot, but I think that's also very much connected to why so many members of our communities don't wanna speak out because this connection with, you know, quote unquote criminal history might be something that's shameful. And I'm wondering if you both see that as a divide mostly between elders in the community and younger folks. Robin, do you wanna talk about that? Robin: Yeah. I mean, initially when we were mobilizing our community members to fight against the the unjust and unfair detention and deportation, this issue around the perception around good immigrants and bad immigrants became one of the main topic of discussion. We had to deal with people, and mostly elders, but I would say some young folks as well, who would pull themselves back on speaking against this issue because for them people who are being deported or detained are criminals and they deserve this kind of mindset. And not being able to see the larger picture of how the administration is targeting the immigrant and the refugee population of this country and really trying to dismantle community power, right? So, yes, it is a challenge that we are, we're going through and I think it's going to be quite a bit of work, to really build solidarity within our own communities. Kao Ye: I feel that the divide in the Hmong community is stemming from class and education. I feel as though when folks are articulating, regurgitating these justifications of the bad immigrant as to why folks should be deported it's folks that maybe kind of made it in their lives and now they're comparing themselves to folks that were not in that situation. And there is this growing within our community as well, where some folks are getting that education, getting, good jobs. But so much of our community, we still suffer from poverty, right? And so, I think that has been really interesting to witness the level of division because of class, because of income and also the education piece. Because oftentimes when folks are feeling this, it comes from a place of ignorance as well. And so that's why I think the education piece is so important. I actually feel though our elders are more understanding because these are their children that are being separated from them. And Robin's point is that when we have loved ones that go through the system, we just want them to rebuild their lives and be self-sufficient. And I feel like those are the values that I grew up in my community where our parents were always about keeping the family together to a fault, you know? And so they don't want separation. They just want us to be well and to do well, and to turn our lives around. And so, I feel strongly that our elders, they do understand that the importance of giving this opportunity for us to, to stay together and turn our lives around. Miko: Thank you so much, both of you for joining me here today to talk about this important conversation. I'm wondering if you could provide our audience with how they could find out more about what is going on and what are next steps for our audience members. Robin, let's start with you. Robin: Yeah. I just wanted to add what, Kao Ye talked about. I do agree the patterns around the divide is based on class. And I do see that in the community, and not just the class, but in our community class and caste, I would say. And in terms of the class, there were some instances where we had to deal with even the highly educated like PhD holders kind of, questioning us like, you know, what we are advocating for, and, I couldn't understand like, I couldn't relate the education, the title, the degree that he holds and the perception around this issue. Right. So, I just wanted to echo that. So, in terms of our work and Asian Refugees United, our website is www.asianrefugees.org And you can find us in our Instagram, Facebook, Asian Refugees United. Miko: And you can also get latest news about what's happening at bhutaneserefugeerights.com. Yeah. And Kao Ye how can folks find out more about your work? Kao Ye: Right now HIP is part of a statewide network in California called the Pardon Refugees Campaign, where we are really pushing Governor Newsom to pardon all refugees, not just Southeast Asians because of everything that we talked about, about how our families, they deserve to stay together. And so, I don't think we have a website up yet, but you can follow this campaign with us. We will be having a rally and press conference, coming up soon, in the next few weeks. And so, I would say that please follow us in that work where we are really moving in coalition with all of our uh, grassroots partners to advocate for our loved ones that are currently being impacted. Miko: Thank you so much, Robin Gurung, Asian Refugees United and Kao Ye Thao from Hmong Innovating Politics. Thank you so much for being with us here today, and I hope you listeners out there take action to keep our families together, to keep our people in the communities as loved ones where they belong. Thank you all. Have a great night. Swati Rayasam: I'm so grateful that Miko was able to talk to Robin and Kao Ye. And for those who missed it, visit bhutanese refugee rights.org for the most recent updates on the Bhutanese refugees. The press conference in rally Kao Ye mentioned took place last week on August 21st, 2025, but check out the Pardon Refugees Campaign for updates from the coalition supporting Hmong, Cambodian Laotian, Myan, and other refugees facing deportation. Thanks so much for tuning in to Apex Express. Please check out our website at kpfa.org/program/apexexpress to find out more about the show tonight and to find out how you can take direct action. We thank all of you listeners out there. Keep resisting, keep organizing, keep creating, and sharing your visions with the world. Your voices are important. Apex Express is produced by  Miko Lee, along with Jalena Keene-Lee, Ayame Keene-Lee, Preeti Mangala Shekar,  Anuj Vaida, Cheryl Truong, Isabel Li, Ravi Grover, and me Swati Rayasam. Thank you so much to the team at KPFA for their support and have a good night.   The post APEX Express – August 28, 2025 – “And we became stateless again” appeared first on KPFA.

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Sanjaya Shrestha is a Nepali pop singer and songwriter best known for his evergreen hit Maya Meri Maya. He formed the fusion band Crossroads in 1992, blending Western pop with Nepali musical elements. Beyond music, Shrestha briefly entered politics in 2013, contesting elections from Kathmandu under the Rastriya Prajatantra Party. He remains a notable figure in Nepal's pop music history, remembered for shaping the early wave of modern Nepali pop.

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