The PA Path Podcast

In this episode, host Emma Sellers, MS, talks with Kristy Goodman, MS, MPH, PA-C, associate director of PA admissions at Southern California University of Health Sciences, and Amy Terstriep, Ph.D., director of pre-professional advising at Purdue University, about the growing issue of ghosting in the PA admissions process. They explore why applicants and institutions alike sometimes go silent, the role of virtual interviews, and how both sides can foster clearer, more respectful communication. With practical tips for students and admissions professionals, this conversation offers insights on reducing ghosting and improving the admissions experience for everyone involved. This episode is sponsored by Massey & Associates Consulting Solutions .   The PA Path Podcast is produced by Association Briefings .

In this episode, host Emma Sellers, MS, sits down with Nathalie Ortiz Pate, Associate Professor and Clinical Coordinator at High Point University, and Demetrius Dunbar, a first-year PA student at Howard University. Together, they share valuable insights for pre-PA students, from navigating the admissions process and managing mental health to finding balance and choosing the right program. They also dive into the power of mentorship and why finding a program that aligns with your values matters.   This episode is sponsored by Massey & Associates Consulting Solutions.   The PA Path Podcast is produced by Association Briefings.  

In this episode, Emma Sellers, MS, speaks with Diamond Means, PA-S, a PA student at the University of Pittsburgh, and Chiamaka Nwokeocha, MPH, PA-S, a PA student at Morehouse School of Medicine, to share invaluable advice for pre-PA students. They discuss navigating the interview process, the power of mentorship, and the importance of building a supportive community. Diamond reflects on her journey from pre-med at Fisk University to choosing the PA path with guidance from a mentor. She also shares her passion for community service and her dream of launching a nonprofit to promote health literacy. Chiamaka discusses her non-linear journey influenced by her Nigerian heritage and her background in public health, tech, and education. She highlights the critical role of community support in the PA application process and her aspirations to serve rural healthcare populations. This episode is supported by the University of Pittsburgh, School of Health and Rehabilitation Sciences' Doctor of Medical Science program.   The PA Path Podcast is produced by Association Briefings.

In this episode, Emma Sellers chats with Jessica Scholz, director of client support at Liaison International, to break down the CASPA application process for PA programs. Jessica explains what CASPA is, its benefits, and how to navigate key timelines. The conversation highlights common mistakes to avoid, best practices for managing your application, and the importance of thorough research and preparation. Whether you're just starting or finalizing your application, this episode provides actionable insights to help pre-PA students submit a complete, polished, and competitive application. This episode is supported by Southern Illinois University Medicine Doctor of Medical Science Degree.   The PA Path Podcast is produced by Association Briefings.

In this episode, Emma Sellers sits down with Kelli Hutchens, Assistant Director at the University of Mississippi, to discuss her work guiding students through the PA admissions process. Kelli shares how she developed a specialized pre-course to help pre-PA and pre-med students prepare for their applications, along with the unique challenges aspiring PAs face, such as varying school requirements, competitive timelines, and the need for hands-on patient care experience. She offers practical advice on getting started early, tracking experiences, and building connections for shadowing. Kelli also explores how the complexity of PA admissions can create barriers, particularly for first-generation and underrepresented students, and shares strategies to navigate these obstacles successfully. This episode is supported by the University of Pittsburgh, School of Health and Rehabilitation Sciences' Doctor of Medical Science program.   The PA Path Podcast is produced by Association Briefings.

In our season 6 premiere, host Emma Sellers chats with Dr. Sara Fletcher, CEO of the PA Education Association, about the organization's fresh approach to its goals. Dr. Fletcher explains how recruitment and retention efforts are being unified under the lens of equity, diversity, and inclusion. She shares insights on the critical need for early exposure to healthcare careers, starting as early as elementary school, and highlights the role of community involvement in shaping future healthcare professionals. Dr. Fletcher also discusses how the COVID-19 pandemic has transformed admissions processes, leading to more flexible and inclusive criteria. She champions holistic admissions, emphasizing the value of life experiences alongside traditional metrics, and calls on clinicians to actively mentor and inspire the next generation of PAs. This episode is supported by Southern Illinois University Medicine Doctor of Medical Science Degree.   The PA Path Podcast is produced by Association Briefings.

In this episode, hosts Kevin Lohenry, PhD, PA-C, and Stephane VanderMeulen, MA, MPAS, PA-C, look back on five incredible seasons of PA Path as they prepare to hand the mic to a new host. They reflect on the podcast's journey, revisiting key themes like passion for the PA profession, commitment to diversity, and the importance of service, while sharing highlights from their favorite episodes. Kevin and Stephane introduce the podcast's new host, Emma Sellers, PAEA's Chief Diversity Officer, who will carry the mission forward. They also take a moment to express heartfelt gratitude to listeners, contributors, and their programs for the ongoing support that has made PA Path such a success. Join us as we celebrate the past, embrace the future, and continue the journey of advancing the PA profession!   The PA Path Podcast is produced by Association Briefings.

In this episode, we sit down with Emily Babcock, DHSc, PA-C, Associate Professor and Director of the Creighton University PA Program in Phoenix, Arizona. Dr. Babcock reflects on her journey from growing up in small-town Wisconsin to becoming a PA and leader in PA education. She shares insights from her career path, including her early passion for medicine, her education at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, and her PA training at Midwestern University. Dr. Babcock also delves into the Creighton program's service-oriented mission, rooted in Jesuit principles, and provides valuable advice for future applicants on demonstrating a commitment to service and gaining meaningful healthcare experience. This episode is sponsored by Creighton University.   PA Path is produced by Association Briefings.

In our 100th episode, we celebrate a milestone with Melanie “MJ” Ellis, MPAS, PA-C, program director for the University of Arizona's developing PA program. Ellis shares her inspiring 36-year journey in the US Air Force and discusses the launch their new program in August 2026, with accreditation review set for March 2026. Designed with a mission to prioritize person-centered primary care, rural health, and medical Spanish, the program will feature cutting-edge facilities, including a new clinical skills lab and the Arizona Simulation Technology and Education Center. Ellis highlights the program's focus on resilience, interprofessional collaboration, and aligning with its core mission and values.   This episode is sponsored by the University of Arizona College of Health Sciences.   PA Path is produced by Association Briefings.

In this episode, we're joined by Nour Safa, PA-C, Mubashir Ahmed, and Marwha Kayali, three global leaders who have developed the Muslim Association of Physician Associates and Students, now a caucus within the American Academy of Physician Associates. They share the journey of creating this group, inspired by their own paths to becoming PAs and the need for cultural and religious competency in healthcare. Together, they discuss the importance of mentorship, resources, and advocacy for Muslim PAs and students, highlighting how their organization fosters a sense of community, inclusivity, and support for future professionals in the field.   PA Path is produced by Association Briefings. 

In this episode, we talk with Dr. Betsy Schmidt, program director for the Butler University PA program, about her diverse career in emergency medicine and orthopedic surgery, as well as her role in founding a PA-owned surgical assistance program in Indiana. Schmidt shares insights on the importance of thinking creatively and adapting to the evolving healthcare landscape. She also highlights Butler University's highly regarded 24-month PA program, known for its personalized attention, focus on service, and leadership development. For prospective students, Schmidt encourages embracing unique experiences and non-traditional career paths without hesitation.   PA Path Podcast is produced by Association Briefings.

In this episode, Elias Villarreal, Jr., DMSc, PA-C, associate dean and founding program director of the University of California San Diego Atkinson School of Medicine PA Program, shares his inspiring journey from engineering major to physician assistant, driven by a passion for biology and chemistry. He discusses the challenges and successes of launching a PA program from the ground up and highlights the program's strong commitment to diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). Elias also emphasizes the power of storytelling in applications, offering advice on how applicants can stand out through personal narratives. For new educators, he shares his guidance on following your passion and seeking support from colleagues and mentors.   PA Path Podcast is produced by Association Briefings.

In this episode, we chat with Emily WhiteHorse, PhD, PA-C, founder of The PA Faculty Development Academy, about her latest book, Becoming a PA Educator: A Practical Guide for Physician Assistant/Associate Faculty. Dr. WhiteHorse shares her unique journey from high school teacher to practicing PA and now educator. She dives into the challenges clinicians face when transitioning into PA education, including the common misconceptions about teaching and the steep learning curve. With a growing faculty shortage in PA programs, she explains how many new educators leave within three years due to insufficient support. Her book offers practical tools and advice to ease this transition, focusing on curriculum development, assessment strategies, and faculty growth.

In this episode, we talk with Lisa Gables, CEO of the American Academy of Physician Associates (AAPA). Lisa shares her path into the PA profession and AAPA's mission to advocate for and educate over 178,000 PAs. She also discusses the ongoing transition from the title "Physician Assistant" to "Physician Associate," and emphasizes the importance of engaging pre-PA students, fostering leadership development, and staying connected to the profession.   This episode is supported by Southern Illinois University Medicine Doctor of Medical Science Degree.   The PA Path Podcast is produced by Association Briefings.

In this special episode, our hosts Kevin Lohenry, PhD, PA-C and Stephane Vandermeulen, MA, MPAS, PA-C, discuss key considerations for selecting the right PA program. They highlight the importance of aligning your personal values and career goals with a program's mission, culture, and curriculum. The discussion also covers critical metrics such as PANCE pass rates, attrition rates, and the program's approach to remediation. Additionally, they explore how to assess a program's accreditation history and analyze trends in attrition to gauge its overall quality.   The PA Path Podcast is produced by Association Briefings. 

In this episode, we chat with Constance Goldgar, MS, PA-C, a professor at the University of Utah Physician Assistant Program. Constance shares her inspiring journey into the PA profession, highlighting the significance of leadership and clinical excellence. We delve into the crucial role of genetic education and research in healthcare, showcasing the contributions of notable geneticists and the necessity for comprehensive genetic education within the PA profession. Constance offers valuable insights on advancing the PA field through leadership and education, emphasizing the importance of seizing opportunities that align with one's passions and values.   This episode is supported by Southern Illinois University Medicine Doctor of Medical Science Degree.   The PA Path Podcast is produced by Association Briefings.

In this episode, we speak with Kristopher Maday, MS, PA-C, DFAAPA, program director and associate professor for University of Tennessee Health Science Center Physician Assistant Program. Kristopher shares his journey to becoming a PA, emphasizing the impact of personal experiences and mentorship on career decisions. He discusses the challenges and rewards of building a program from the ground up, the rising popularity of PA programs, and the essential role of hands-on training and innovative teaching methods. Tune in to discover what sets the UTHSC Physician Assistant Program apart and gain valuable tips on applying to the program.   The PA Path Podcast is produced by Association Briefings. 

In this episode, we speak with Edward Williams, DMSc, M.Ed., PA-C, chair of the Department of Physician Assistant Studies at the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences. He shares his unique journey from combat medic to physician assistant, highlighting the differences between these roles and the challenges of practicing medicine in a combat environment. They also discuss the critical importance of professional development opportunities, education, and mentorship. Additionally, they emphasize the need for adaptability, emotional resilience, and cultural diversity in healthcare education. Tune in to learn more about the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences' program and what makes it a top choice for aspiring PAs.   This episode is sponsored by Lincoln Memorial University School of Medical Sciences Doctor of Medical Science program. For more information about the doctor of medical science program, visit https://www.lmunet.edu/school-of-medical-sciences/dms/. For more information on the medical education major curriculum, visit https://www.lmunet.edu/school-of-medical-sciences/dms/medical-education-major-curriculum.   The PA Path Podcast is produced by Association Briefings. 

In this episode, we speak with Dr. Curt Stilp, associate dean of the College of Medical Science and program director to the George Fox University PA program. He shares his journey into the PA profession, and discusses the importance of interprofessional education and highlights the crucial role of interprofessional education and the impact of PAs in rural healthcare settings. Tune in to learn more about George Fox University's program and what attracts applicants to it.   The PA Path Podcast is produced by Association Briefings.

In this episode, we speak with Chandra Lynch, chair of the PA program at Baldwin Wallace University. She shares her journey into the PA profession, drawing from her experience in family practice to excel in PA education. From her decision to join the entrepreneurial venture of launching a new program to her ascent in leadership, Chandra offers valuable insights. Tune in to learn about BWU's unique program, standout applicant qualities, and the significant role graduates play in giving back through precepting.   This episode is supported by Southern Illinois University Medicine Doctor of Medical Science Degree.   The PA Path Podcast is produced by Association Briefings.

In this episode, we speak with Dr. Susan White, program director for the Boston University School of Medicine, PA Program, and Aliza Stern, MMSc, PA-C, assistant professor of dermatology, for the Boston University School of Medicine, PA Program. They share their journeys into the PA profession, delve into the role of PAs in women's health, discuss the significance of trauma-informed care, and talk about the importance of focusing on vulnerable populations. Learn about the unique features and benefits of BU's PA program and their commitment to community service.   PA Path is produced by Association Briefings.

In this episode, we speak with Don Diemer, DHSc, PA-C, program director for the Southern Illinois University PA program. From his experiences in the Air Force to his current role at SIU, Dr. Diemer provides valuable insights into the differences between PAs in military and civilian practice settings. Discover the advantages of having a PA program co-located with a medical school, unique aspects of the SIU program, and available options for a doctorate of medical science. Whether you're a prospective PA student or educator, don't miss Dr. Diemer's advice for navigating the path to success in this dynamic profession. This episode is supported by Southern Illinois University Medicine Doctor of Medical Science Degree.   The PA Path Podcast is produced by Association Briefings.

In this episode, we speak with Carrie Hall, PA-C, program director for the Rocky Mountain College PA program in Billings, Montana, and Cody Halverson, admissions director at Rocky Mountain College. They share their inspiring journeys into PA education, shed light on the college's admissions process, and discuss the significance of serving rural communities. From highlighting the unique features of their program and the college's scenic surroundings to the decision to remove the GRE from admissions criteria, they cover a wide range of topics. Additionally, they delve into the program's focus on patient safety and quality improvement initiatives, as well as the exciting launch of the school's Doctorate of Medical Science program. This episode is supported by Southern Illinois University Medicine Doctor of Medical Science Degree.   The PA Path Podcast is produced by Association Briefings.

In this episode, we speak with Dr. Gerard Marciano, Director of Physician Assistant Program at Weill Cornell Medical College in New York. Dr. Marciano shares his remarkable journey into the PA profession and reflects on the evolution of the field over his 20+ year career. Gain valuable insights as he discusses strategies for program directors to inspire students, highlights the unique aspects of his program, and offers advice for new program directors. Discover success stories of his graduates and unlock keys to student success in this engaging discussion. This episode is sponsored by Lincoln Memorial University School of Medical Sciences.    PA Path is produced by Association Briefings.

In this episode, we speak with Dr. Beth Buyea, clinical associate professor at Tufts University School of Medicine in Boston, Massachusetts. Dr. Buyea shares her personal journey into the PA profession and sheds light on the barriers and challenges faced by today's first-generation applicants. Delve into her early experience working in adolescent care at a boarding school in Connecticut and her belief in a collaborative approach to patient care promotion. Discover the unique program at Tufts University, the milestones Dr. Buyea is proud of, and the vibrant culture she has cultivated. Tune in for an insightful discussion on the PA profession and what sets Dr. Buyea's program apart. This episode is sponsored by Aquifer.    The PA Path Podcast is produced by Association Briefings.

In this episode, we speak with Dana Villmore, PhD, PA-C, assistant clinical professor and chair of admissions for the University of New England PA Program in Portland, Maine. Explore Dr. Villmore's personal journey into the PA profession, her transition from clinical practice to education, and delve into the distinctive aspects of the UNE program and curriculum. Gain insights into the quintessential applicant profile, discover the program's commitment to serving the Maine community, and explore how students are prepared for the evolving landscape of tomorrow's PA profession. This episode is sponsored by Aquifer.    The PA Path Podcast is produced by Association Briefings.

In this episode, we speak with Dr. Vanessa Bester, PA-C, PA program director at Augsburg University in Minneapolis, Minnesota. We discuss her fascinating journey into the PA profession, fueled by a deep commitment to serving underserved communities. Dr. Bester shares insights into her expertise in HIV medicine, primary care, and infectious disease and describes what sets her program at Augsburg University apart in the realm of PA education.   This episode is sponsored by Butler University Doctor of Medical Science Programs.    The PA Path Podcast is produced by Association Briefings.

In this episode, we speak with Jasmina Cheeseman, PA-C, assistant professor of physician assistant studies at Franklin College in Franklin, IN. We discuss her transition from clinical laboratory science to the PA profession, advocacy, her journey into PA education, how applicants should prepare to stand out as a strong candidate, and what makes her program unique.    This episode is sponsored by Butler University Doctor of Medical Science Programs. 

In this episode, we speak with Erika Brooks, CSPO, manager of admission services at the PA Education Association, and Olivia Ziegler, PA, chief experience officer at the PA Education Association. We discuss applicant experience and the CASPA process, advice for students who are thinking about applying to a PA program, the importance of letters of reference, and the timing for submitting an application. This episode is sponsored by Aquifer.    Show notes Erika Brooks has worked in the graduate medical education industry for 12 years. As a seasoned Application services manager, she is passionate about improving the user experience and streamlining processes. In addition to managing the CASPA, she is also involved in educating PA programs on the benefits of including aspects of Holistic review in the admissions process. She also engages with those interested in the PA profession and Health Professions Advisors to ease anxiety around the application to process and dispel any myths about the profession. Erika currently serves as the PAEA staff partner to the CASPA Advisory Committee and assists in developing policies and procedures for CASPA. Her work in graduate admissions extends beyond PAEA as she served as a Co-chair for the CAS executives' group. This group of healthcare association executives has oversite for application services for health professions, including OT, PT, Dental, Athletic Training, MD/DO etc . Outside of the office, Erika enjoys supporting Liverpool F.C., learning how to crochet, and traveling.   The PA Path Podcast is produced by Association Briefings.

In this episode, we speak with Brittany Booth, DMSc, PA-C, department head and program director for LSUHSC-New Orleans. We discuss her path to becoming a PA and her formal education training, her philosophy on teaching adult learners, preparing students to understand public health and community health implications, and how to be a competitive applicant. 

In this episode, we speak with Lt Col Kyle M. Johnston,  program director of the Interservice Physician Assistant Program (IPAP), 381st Training Squadron, Joint Base San Antonio-Fort Sam Houston, Texas. We discuss his path to becoming a PA, including taking advantage of the Health Professions Scholarship Program; differences in being a civilian PA and military PA; the value of military PAs in protecting our nation; his transition to education; and managing a program with an annual enrollment of 500 students. The PA Path Podcast is produced by Association Briefings.

In this episode, we speak with Lucy W. Kibe, DrPH, MS, MHS, PA-C, director of the Physician Assistant Program and associate professor at Charles R. Drew University of Medicine and Science. We discuss her path to becoming a PA, her leadership role in the profession, working in academia, promoting social justice and mending gaps in healthcare, and creating a program around empowerment, diversity, growth and excellence (EDGE). This episode is sponsored by NEJM Group education solutions.   The PA Path Podcast is produced by Association Briefings.

In this episode, we speak with Vanessa Blasic, PA-C, a certified lead PA specializing in men and women's urologic health with Elite Robotic Surgical Consultants. We discuss her journey to PA school at the University of Southern California and her clinical career path, the PA's role in robotic surgery, paying off $300,000 in student loans, and climbing Mount Everest. This episode is sponsored by the PA History Society.   The PA Path Podcast is produced by Association Briefings.

In this episode, we have a one-on-one conversation with Stephane VanderMeulen, MPAS, MA, PA-C, chair of the Department of Health Professions at Creighton University School of Medicine and co-host of The PA Path podcast. We discuss how to build a culture that creates a positive program environment, why faculty leave, the importance of communication, the role of leadership, and creating psychological safety in your culture.   This episode is supported by Southern Illinois University Medicine Doctor of Medical Science Degree.   The PA Path Podcast is produced by Association Briefings.

In this episode, we speak with Dr. Tiffany Maxwell, program director and department chair for the University of Maryland Eastern Shores PA program. We discuss her expertise in academic accreditation program development, building a program from the ground up, and her path to becoming a PA. This episode is supported by Southern Illinois University Medicine Doctor of Medical Science Degree.   The PA Path Podcast is produced by Association Briefings.

In this episode, speak with a national leader within the PA profession, Dr. Carl Garrubba, about his unique path to becoming a PA, his involvement and leadership in PAEA, HIV research and its impact on future infectious disease frameworks, and his PA program development. This episode is sponsored by Exam Master.   The PA Path Podcast is produced by Association Briefings.

In this episode, speak with a long standing leader for the PA profession, Kathy  Pedersen, MPAS, PA-C, about her path to becoming a PA, her leadership in global and community health, philanthropic efforts in the industry, and her prolific bibliography. This episode is sponsored by Exam Master.

In this episode, speak with one of the pillars of our profession, Dr. Donald Pedersen, PA-C, about his path to becoming a PA, his leadership and philanthropic efforts in the industry, building a strong PA program at the University of Utah, and the future of PA education. This episode is sponsored by Sentinel U.  

In the season five premier, we speak to Dr. Sara Fletcher, CEO of the PA Education Association, about our new partnership with the organization, her PA career path,  the growth of PAEA, and the future of the organization. .

This week Stephane and Kevin talk about the Season 4 episodes, themes, and trends and share some exciting news about the future of the podcast.

We speak with the leaders of the AAPA caucus group PAs for Latino Health about their mission, their scholarship programs, their support for PA programs and most importantly for pre-PA students. 

We speak with one of the most recognizable names in PA history, PA Jim Cawley, about his path to becoming a PA, his history of dedicated research on the profession, and the many contributions he has made to improving our profession over the course of 40 years through leadership, advocacy, education, and research.

Stephane and I speak with Dr. Nina Multak about her path to becoming a PA, a national leader in simulation, and an Associate Dean with the University of Florida's School of Physician Assistant Studies. She shares updates on the program, their strength in simulation, and her thoughts on the profession.

We speak with Dr. Hanifin about his path to becoming a CT surgery and emergency medicine PA and about the Seton Hall University PA Program. Dr. Hanifin shares his thoughts about what makes the experience work well for PA students and how PA students can best prepare for school. He also shares their story about their simulation center and how it supports their students on their educational journey.

We speak with a long time PA ally and educator, Dr. Arta Bakshandeh about the impact of artificial intelligence on clinical care and PA education. We also talk about the incredible work he and his colleagues are providing for their patients and clients through Alignment Healthcare.

We speak with PA Jared Spackman about the University of Utah PA Program and their rich history of leadership in our profession. We also talk about his path to becoming a PA and a leader in both the Utah PA Academy and the Utah PA Licensing Board.

We speak with Dr. Kim Cavanagh who is a nationally recognized leader on assessment. Dr. Cavanagh also leads the Gannon University PA Department. We talk about her path to PA and about her role in building the PAEA suite of assessment products that has positively impacted programs and students in their journey to becoming board certified PAs.

We speak with Dr. Dipu Patel about her role as Vice-Chair for Innovation at the University of Pittsburgh's Department of PA Studies. We also talk about her path to becoming a PA and about her thoughts on digital health and the impact of artificial intelligence on health care.

We speak with PAEA Past-President Kara Caruthers about her path to becoming a PA and about her developing program at the Meharry College of Medicine's Department of PA Sciences. PA Caruthers also shares her personal perspective about the PA profession's recent doctoral summit held this month in Charlotte, NC.

We speak with Dr. McHugo, Chair of the Department of PA Studies at the University of North Dakota about her path to becoming a PA from rural South Dakota. We also learn about their innovative approach to building the primary care workforce for their state and her contributions to leading the PA profession.

We speak with the Director of the Keck Street Medicine program at the University of Southern California about their incredible program caring for those experiencing chronic homelessness in the streets of Los Angeles. We talk about their clinical care, but also the importance of research, service, and teaching others how to build their own street medicine teams and learn how PAs have made a difference in this work internationally.