Full Exposure with Brian Kelly

Doug DeVos - Believer in People & Entrepreneurship Doug DeVos stopped by the studio for a candid conversation about wide ranging topics including podcasting, including his own “Believe! A Podcast With Doug DeVos.” We discuss how philanthropic gifts can be more impactful, what he's learned about life (and business) by racing sailboats and the ultimate question…if being wealthy makes one happy. Doug DeVos is Co-Chair of the Board of Directors for Amway, the world's largest direct selling company with more than $8 billion in revenue. He previously served as President of Amway for more than 16 years. DeVos joined Amway in 1986 and served in various leadership positions for Amway in Europe, the Americas and Asia. Doug, along with his wife Maria, is the Founder of Continuum Ventures – an investment company for The Doug & Maria DeVos Family. This episode is made possible by: University of Michigan Health-West and Dr. Peter Hahn Brian Kelly Photography & Film

Mitch Albom - Author ON LOCATION - PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI Mitch Albom is a mega-selling author (Tuesdays With Morrie, The Five People You Meet In Heaven, Finding Chika), as well as a long-time columnist for the Detroit Free Press and philanthropist who operates numerous charities in the Detroit area through his Say Detroit Foundation. Despite all his talent and massive success, Mitch often says the most important work he's ever done is with the Have Faith Haiti Mission. He assumed operations and responsibility for this orphanage after the devastating earthquake in 2010 that leveled most of Port-au-Prince, Haiti. In this episode recorded with Mitch at the Have Faith Haiti Mission, we dive into exactly how he became responsible for the lives of 55 kids ranging in age from 2-22 years old as well as numerous teachers at the school, nannies, cooks and other important staff. Once a child is accepted at the orphanage, they become part of a large family and are never adopted out. Mitch and his wife Janine personally commit to each child's physical, mental and spiritual health, as well as the cost of their education through college. This is an inspiring episode. Dive in! This episode is made possible by: University of Michigan Health-West and Dr. Peter Hahn Brian Kelly Photography & Film

JOE ANDERSON - ACTOR/COMEDIAN CO-FOUNDER OF THE COMEDY PROJECT Joe Anderson is in my opinion one of the finest improv artists and comedic actors working today. Having worked with The Second City and also having traveled around the country for years with his own sketch comedy troupes, Joe has now bet his entire livelihood on comedy as the co-founder of The Comedy Project, an improv and sketch comedy club on Grand Rapids' Westside that also features a comedy/corporate training center as well as private event hosting. The pandemic made operating The Comedy Project nearly impossible and its taken a mental and financial toll on Joe and his team. But they are beginning to thrive again and there's light at the end of the tunnel. Joe also had a teenage infatuation with my (now) sister-in-law Kristen at a summer sports camp in Pennsylvania, something we found out about years after we met. We attempted to set the record straight in this episode. Follow Joe Anderson on Instagram Follow The Comedy Project on Instagram This episode is made possible by: University of Michigan Health-West and Dr. Peter Hahn Brian Kelly Photography & Film

Dr. Randal Jelks is the author of Letters to Martin: Meditations on Democracy in Black America. He is my former neighbor, a professor, and documentary producer. He was an executive producer of the documentary I, Too, Sing America: Langston Hughes Unfurled. He currently teaches American Studies, African Studies, and African American Studies at the University of Kansas. Letters to Martin, contains twelve meditations on contemporary political struggles for our oxygen-deprived society. Evoking Martin Luther King Jr.'s “Letters To A Birmingham Jail,” these meditations, written in the form of letters to King, speak specifically to the many public issues we presently confront in the United States—economic inequality, freedom of assembly, police brutality, ongoing social class conflicts, and geopolitics. Award-winning author Randal Maurice Jelks invites readers to reflect on US history by centering on questions of democracy that we must grapple with as a society. This episode is made possible by: University of Michigan Health-West and Dr. Peter Hahn Brian Kelly Photography & Film

Congressman Peter Meijer Representative for Michigan's 3rd District Representative Peter Meijer joined Brian in his studio on January 3, 2022, exactly one year after he assumed office in the United States House of Representatives where he represents Michigan's 3rd District. To say Representative Meijer's first year in office has been tumultuous would be an understatement. Just three days after taking office, insurrectionists stormed the Capitol and plunged the country into a Constitutional crisis. Our conversation is wide ranging, from his seemingly conflicting votes to hold Steve Bannon in contempt of Congress but not Trump Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, to a discussion about healthcare and the legacy of the 3rd District. Representative Meijer serves on the Committee on Homeland Security as Ranking Member of the Subcommittee on Oversight, Management, and Accountability. He also serves on the House Foreign Affairs Committee and the House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology. Representative Meijer is also a member of the Problem Solvers Caucus, a bipartisan group working to find common ground on many of our country's key issues. This episode is made possible by: University of Michigan Health-West and Dr. Peter Hahn Visit www.fullexposurepodcast.com for video excerpts and other episodes.

Jason Sosa - A.I. Strategist & Entrepreneur Much more at: www.fullexposurepodcast.com/sosa Jason Sosa is one of the top artificial intelligence strategists working today. For a guy who barely graduated from high school with a 0.98 GPA and never went to college, his tremendous success as a high tech generalist and serial entrepreneur would have seemed impossible to predict. More than one of his high school teachers told him he might be better off digging ditches for a living, but Jason followed whatever allured him and gave him the emotional fuel to keep going. Gifted with the ability to effortlessly explain where the most complicated technologies are headed and more importantly how they will impact our lives, this might be one of the most interesting conversations for us to put into a time capsule and open it up in 10 years and see where Jason hit the mark. Full refunds to anyone who doesn’t have their mind blown at least once during this episode. Find Jason on LinkedIn This episode is made possible by: Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn

Glen Phillips Singer/Songwriter - Toad The Wet Sprocket Glen Phillips is widely regarded as one of best American singer/songwriters of the last couple of decades. He rose to fame in the early 90’s as the lead singer of Toad The Wet Sprocket. They were everywhere on MTV and have sold a gazillion albums. I’ve been an even bigger fan of Glen’s solo career. But this conversation isn’t about music, fame or music influences. Glen and I dive right into raw topics that range from community, grief, healing from divorce and the lessons learned while climbing to the top of 19,341 foot Mt. Kilimanjaro. This is very first episode we’ve released that was recorded via Zoom (Glen was in Santa Barbara, California and me in Grand Rapids). I should have started doing these Zoom interviews much earlier when the pandemic first started. I look forward to releasing more. Much more at www.fullexposurepodcast.com www.glenphillips.com Listen to Glen on Spotify Listen to Toad The Wet Sprocket on Spotify Portrait of Glen Phillips courtesy of Ashtin Paige This episode is made possible by: Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn  

Dr. Ron Grifka - Chief Medical Officer at Metro Health | University of Michigan Health Pediatric Cardiologist If you’re a regular listener to this podcast, you know my family has navigated a medical crises or two with our girls. So I was especially excited to be able to sit down with Dr. Ron Grifka, a man who has as an impressive medical resume as probably any doctor in the country. At his core, Dr. Ron Grifka is a man who has dedicated his entire life to repairing the hearts of children. The children and their families that need his very specialized expertise are facing a lot of uncertainty and no doubt meet Dr. Grifka at a time when some of their very toughest days and weeks are right in front of them. In this episode we talk a lot about his dedication to these families, what carries him through both the good and bad days being a doctor, the unique pressure he feels when intentionally stopping a child’s heart so a delicate procedure can be completed…and then hoping that heart starts up again. We also discuss Texas barbecue and France. It’s a good one! Dr. Grifka now oversees over 500 doctors and 17 different departments in his role as Chief Medical Officer at Metro Health | University of Michigan Health. This episode is made possible by: Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn Check out all the portraits and video excerpts at: www.fullexposurepodcast.com 

Governor Slugwell - Part Two PART TWO - The Godfather of Grand Rapids Hip Hop - Film Producer We’ve never done this before…that is…to split an incredible conversation into two episodes. This is Part TWO. Episode one is located here. In Part TWO, we dig into the Ministers of Authentic Hip Hop, the term “managerial racism” that appears in the book, “A City Within A City: The Black Freedom Struggle in Grand Rapids” by Todd E. Robinson, as well as Governor Slugwell’s plans to adapt this important book into a feature length documentary. Governor Slugwell is a community leader, hip hop evangelist, music industry mentor and film producer. Visit www.fullexposurepodcast.com/gov2 for so much more. This episode is made possible by: Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn

Governor Slugwell - Part One The Godfather of Grand Rapids Hip Hop - Film Producer We’ve never done this before…that is…to split an incredible conversation into two episodes. This is Part One. Governor Slugwell is a community leader, hip hop evangelist, music industry mentor that has already moved into the world of documentary film with his adaptation of the book “A City Within A City“ which will chronicle Grand Rapids through the Civil Rights Movements. In Part One, we dig into the origins of Governor Slugwell, his early career in music, how hip hop saved his life and the fascinating story of how a piece of his music history resides in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland. This episode is made possible by: Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn

Brie Stoner Recording artist, podcaster, writer and mischief maker Rarely have I worked with a person that arrives at my studio with fully formed and brilliant portrait concepts that are as ready to go for the camera as Brie Stoner does. Brie has been an absolute force every time I’ve worked with her and our portrait shoot for this podcast episode was no exception. Brie Stoner is a recording artist in Avila with her collaborative partner Daniel Johnson as well as her own solo music projects. Brie’s also a podcaster, writer, seeker and mischief maker. You may know her from the globally popular podcast “Another Name For Everything” that she co-hosts with Paul Swanson and famed Franciscan priest and author Richard Rohr. We talk about her growing up in my favorite country of Spain, the intersection of creativity and spirituality, her forthcoming podcast “Unknowing” and so much more… Follow Brie Stoner on Instagram and Facebook Follow Avila on Instagram and Facebook This episode is made possible by: Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn Brian Kelly Productions Much more at www.fullexposurepodcast.com/brie

Josh Sikkema Los Angeles/Grand Rapids Based Director At the age of 29 years, Josh Sikkema is enjoying a breathtaking three-year run as a music video director for some of the biggest names in the history of R&B. Maybe you’ve heard of Snoop Dog, Mya, Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis, Stokley and Serayah of Empire fame…he’s directed videos and documentaries for them. He cut his teeth at 19 working behind the scenes in production at WOODTV in Grand Rapids, Michigan. He stayed there for four years and eventually decided to forgo a full-time job offer with benefits to pursue his dream of working in Los Angeles. Josh is the director of the new short film, Something in the Clouds, which was shot entirely in Grand Rapids with his creative partner Johnny McClean. Follow Josh on Instagram Josh’s Facebook   This episode is made possible by: Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn

Joe Jones Grand Rapids City Commissioner / CEO / Pastor Joe Jones wears a lot of hats and holds a lot of responsibility in his various roles within Grand Rapids. This conversation is framed around Joe’s role as Grand Rapids City Commissioner representing the 2nd Ward. Especially during a time when Grand Rapids is experiencing tremendous pressure to rapidly change around the subjects of racial equity, inclusion and social justice. Joe’s also the CEO of the Grand Rapids Urban League and Assistant Pastor of Brown Hutcherson Ministries. Brian and Joe roll up their sleeves and get candid about Joe’s faith, being a leader and his desire to see every resident in Grand Rapids feel that they have value.   This episode is made possible by: Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn

Eric Zane - Podcaster/Broadcaster Eric Zane of the Eric Zane Show Podcast is a legendary figure in the radio industry. His career has taken many turns since 2016 after he unceremoniously departed the nationally syndicated Free Beer and Hot Wings Show. Eric’s since launched a very successful podcast and totally reinvented how he does business and broadcasting. A bombastic, loud and sometimes controversial host, Eric has a big heart for his community. We cover the ups and downs of his career and dive into why he is donating his kidney in December….this is a good one! See the portraits and video excerpts at: www.fullexposurepodcast.com/eric  

Jason Quigno Sculptor Jason Quigno is one of the most prominent sculptors living in the Midwest today. Carving for hours each day to shape each stone, Jason’s work often draws upon his Anishinaabe heritage and the contemporary abstractions that are inspired by the land and nature. I’ve known Jason for quite a long time, but neither of us can remember when we first met. That’s a good thing. I’ve always loved dropping by Jason’s studio to make some portraits in his incredible studio…plus we always enjoy smoking a cigar together. That usually means I’ve had a great afternoon just talking about anything and everything with Jason. This conversation reveals the underpinnings of his work, his “wild child” life as a former addict, and the success he enjoys today creating monumental works in stone. See Jason's work at Lafontsee Galleries Follow Jason on Instagram This episode is made possible by: Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn

Dustin Dwyer Michigan Radio Reporter & Long Form Journalist Dustin Dwyer has been a Michigan Radio reporter since 2004 where he began as an intern. He’s an excellent craftsman of longer form investigative reporting on economic and social issue across Michigan. I wanted to talk to Dustin about the protests that evolved into property destruction in Grand Rapids on May 30. Justin was reporting and live streaming during that evening as well as other protests around the city. Dustin has also investigated cases of police violence in the Grand Rapids Police Department and his insights into these systemic and social issues made for a very engaging conversation. Much more at www.fullexposurepodcast.com/dustin Follow Dustin Dwyer on Twitter. HBO Documentary Brian mentioned in this episode: Ernie & Joe - Crisis Cops This episode is made possible by: Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn

What does a photographer do when a pandemic causes his normal business work flow to essentially implode because of COVID-19? Our host, Brian Kelly, goes deep in this episode and shares all the unique twists and turns in his personal life that resulted in the making of his beautiful new coffee table book of aerial images of Grand Rapids, Michigan. Brian's book is entitled, "AERIAL: Grand Rapids From Above" and is ONLY available to pre-order via Kickstarter until September 3, 2020. Lots of extra info, sample images and much more on the Kickstarter page. This episode was made possible by Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn.

My guest is Jonathan Jelks. He’s an entrepreneur and leader in the downtown business community. His businesses include Motu Viget Spirits, GRUSA Apparel and Ambiance Kitchen and Lounge. Jonathan moves unflinchingly in many social and entrepreneurial circles in and around Grand Rapids and is someone I admire very much. This conversation centers much around race relations in Grand Rapids, Michigan which remains one of the most segregated cities in the United States. It took place about a week or so after protests in Grand Rapids turned destructive in the aftermath of the murder of George Floyd. Let’s just say we had an awful lot to talk about. We’ve two of Jonathan’s business partners on this podcast last year…Andrea “SuperDre” Wallace and Willie the Kid. Please listen to these conversations. All three are incredibly adept entrepreneurs that are moving the city of Grand Rapids forward in many different ways. This episode is made possible by: Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn Visit www.fullexposurepodcast.com/jelks for video experts of our conversation as well as the portraits Brian made in the studio of Jonathan.

Brian Kelly Podcast Update - We’re Back! Photographer, Director and Podcast Host Brian Kelly is the host of The Full Exposure Podcast. It’s been on a hiatus of sorts the last 60 days. Out of an abundance of safety, the pandemic has made it nearly impossible to bring in-person guests into the production studio. Like all of us, Brian decided to press pause on everything else as well. In this short episode, Brian updates us on an unusual twist to his family’s lock-down experience, and he also shares his thoughts and concerns about the business climate for the production industry coming up. This episode is made possible by: Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn Visit www.fullexposurepodcast.com for our entire archive of past episodes with super dope guests.

*COVID-19 Special Episode - Part Two   Dr. Rakesh Pai - Chief Population Health Officer - Metro Health | University of Michigan Health   COVID-19 is already present at scale in West Michigan. All of our hospital systems in the region are affected. This episode with Dr. Rakesh Pai is chilling as far as the current data and projections for us here in Michigan. This information should motivate us to take drastic measures to help stop the pandemic. It should also give us hope. But we all need to stay at home to make this work.   Dr. Pai graciously took time to share what Metro Health | University of Michigan Health continues to prepare and respond to the coming surge.   As a time stamp for this episode, it was recorded on Thursday, March 26. Our conversation was conducted as facts and new information were constantly evolving.   I'm very grateful to Dr. Pai for being so candid and presenting the medical and scientific realities in a way that is easy to understand and digest. Please share this episode. It might play a small part in keeping our community healthier.   This episode is made possible by:   Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn

Dr. Peter Hahn *COVID-19 Episode - Part One CEO - Metro Health | University of Michigan Health Visit www.fullexposurepodcast.com/drhahn for video excerpts and much more. What’s it like to be inside the exploding COVID-19 pandemic as the Chief Executive Officer of one of the largest health care systems in West Michigan? Dr. Peter Hahn graciously took time to share what Metro Health | University of Michigan Health has done to prepare for potentially a large surge of patients suffering from coronavirus in our community as well as what we can ALL do to keep our community healthier and safer. As a time stamp for this episode, it was recorded on Friday, March 20 at 2pm just as Governor Whitmer was making sweeping executive orders that impacted how hospital systems are required to operate across the state in light of COVID-19. Our conversation was conducted as facts and new information were constantly evolving. I came away in awe of the task at hand but also confident and assured that all of our healthcare systems are working together at an unprecedented time in our history. This episode is made possible by: Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn

Adam Cayton-Holland is an American writer and fantastic comedian who might be best known as his character Loren Payton on the TruTV series “Those Who Can’t.” The show inspired a serious cult following and enjoyed three critically acclaimed seasons that co-starred Adam’s The Grawlix partners Andrew Orvedahl and Ben Roy. The series also spotlighted frequent guest stars Patton Oswalt, Rory Scovel and the Sklar Brothers. But “Those Who Can’t” was green lit at exactly the worst time in Adam’s entire life. Adam was feeling the tremendous high of having his dreams fulfilled of working on his very own television show at the very same time that he was struggling with the devastation and grief he felt after his beloved younger sister Lydia committed suicide. This emotional conflict led Adam on a journey of healing and therapy which resulted in his book, “Tragedy Plus Time,” a darkly funny memoir and tribute to his sister. Adam consistently tours the country as a stand-up. He also has a one-man show called, “Happy Place” which is about his grief journey and his sister Lydia. Listen to The Grawlix Saves The World Follow Adam’s Instagram This episode is made possible by: Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn My special thanks to Laughfest for making this episode possible.

Mikey Winslow Stage Actor & Dancer - Hamilton Mikey Winslow just wrapped performing in the smash hit production run of Hamilton staged in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Before he left town, I was able to sit down with this East Grand Rapids native and veteran of Broadway and talk about his life and career. Amazingly, Mikey’s career nearly ended two years ago after his hip became too painful to continue professionally. Miraculously, after hip replacement surgery and physical rehab, he’s as good as ever and pain free. Mikey and I discuss the phenomenon that is Hamilton, his drive drive to succeed, the incredible demands on his body and also his tremendous excitement about being cast in the newly announced production run of Hamilton in Los Angeles that will spend most of 2020 Let’s just say Mikey is living an inspired life…let’s do it! Follow Mikey on Instagram This episode is made possible by: Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn

SHADES - *On Location *Detroit, Michigan World Renowned Graffiti Artist (This episode features some raw language. Please play carefully) Antonio “Shades” Agee is a Detroit legend and one of the city’s first recognized artists working in graffiti. He’s now world renowned and enjoys commissions by some of the world’s largest corporations. Companies like Fiat, Chrysler, Ford, Toyota, and major organizations like Universal Studios, FIFA World Cup, Children’s Hospital of Michigan, Pandora, and Vitamin Water all work with Shades. There is no doubt that Shades is a legend. He battled alcohol and drug addiction and eventually used graffiti to soar above the ashes and ruins that he’d made of his life as a young man…much like a Phoenix rising that is the City of Detroit today. Shades is one of the hardest working artists I’ve ever known. He’s also one of my best friends in Detroit. This is a raw and unvarnished conversation with Shades about his chaotic life and career. Visit Shades’ Web Site Follow Shades on Instagram This episode is made possible by: Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn

Whether you’re a professional artist, aspiring artist or entrepreneur…today’s episode is 100% meant for you. Erica Lang is the founder and creative director of Woosah Outfitters, which is an art and apparel brand inspired by nature. Her Woosah Outfitters storefront on Wealthy Street in Grand Rapids, Michigan has quickly grown into a very sought after destination to view her art, purchase her apparel, as well as enjoy a great cup of coffee. That’s right, coffee, because Erica also owns Outside Coffee Co. adjacent to Woosah…by far the coolest outdoor, four season coffee shop in the country.In this conversation, we explore Erica’s incredible determination (and impatience) that drove her to found Woosah when she was still a student at Kendall College of Art & Design. Erica is a friend that inspires me personally to keep moving forward…and I know you will find her to be an inspiration as well. Visit www.fullexposurepodcast.com/erica to view video excerpts from this conversation Shop Woosah Outfitters Follow Woosah On Instagram Follow Outside Coffee Co on Instagram  This episode is made possible by: Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn

Rick Beerhorst - Artist (This episode has some NSFW language. Please play carefully.) Rick arrived at my studio with a black eye. So…as one does in this type of situation, I asked him what happened. But then I selfishly thought better of it and said, “Wait. Save it for the podcast.” Turns out, as you will hear, a few days earlier Rick had “gotten his ass kicked” in a violent altercation at 2:30AM near the downtown dumpster where he was throwing away roughly $700,000 worth of his own paintings and sketches that he had just destroyed with a razor blade and a table saw. Suffice it say Rick and I have an awful lot to unpack in this episode. I’ve known Rick Beerhorst for a long time. He is one of the most talented painters that Michigan has ever produced. He’s also complicated and a survivor. He’s battled through periods of intense poverty, depression and mania. His 29 year marriage dissolved a few years ago. And now, after a period of intense self-reflection and meditation, Rick has fully re-dedicated himself to his art and career. Shortly after we shot this episode, Rick embarked for Europe and is now living in Paris where he is painting, reading and writing. Sit back and enjoy this episode. It’s quite a ride. Rick’s website Follow Rick on Instagram This episode is made possible by: Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn

Carter Oosterhouse - *ON LOCATION *Malibu, California “I’m the biggest ambassador for Michigan because I love it so much.” - Carter Oosterhouse on his hometown of Traverse City A native of Traverse City, Michigan, Carter Oosterhouse first came to fame as a carpenter on HGTV’s Trading Spaces during the explosion of many popular DIY home renovation shows. Carter has parlayed his success into more television shows, some of which he now owns and produces. He’s also authored books and builds playgrounds across the county with his non-profit called Carter’s Kids. He’s also invested heavily back into his home town with the launch of Bonobo Winery on Old Mission Point in Traverse City a few years ago. I first met Carter six years ago when I was asked to create portraits of him for an advertising campaign. We’d stayed in touch off and on since then, and when I asked him to be a guest on the podcast while I was out in Los Angeles, he mentioned that we could shoot at his home in Malibu. Let’s just say we jumped at the chance. Carter’s home with ocean views from atop a canyon ridge is truly a magical place to shoot some portraits and have a conversation (see photo gallery below). Carter and his wife Amy Smart keep deep ties back in Michigan where they keep a home in Traverse City. Together they founded Smarthouse Collections, a company that is dedicated to more eco-friendly bedding products. Follow Carter on IG Follow Carter on FB Donate to Carter’s Kids This episode is made possible by: Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn

“I feel magic is a common thread to show various layers of humanity.” - Justin Willman on his Netflix show “Magic For Humans” Justin Willman is a magician, comedian and actor. Season two of Justin's very popular Netflix show “Magic For Humans” has just been released, with season three already slated to release in 2020. This is good news for fans of Justin’s unique approach to street magic and comedy. I’m not gassing up “Magic For Humans" one bit…it’s a fantastic show and you should check it out. I first met Justin Willman in 2012 when he came to Grand Rapids to perform for the Laughfest Comedy Festival and I was the festival photographer. We had a very quick and easy photo shoot. We both really liked the results. Justin came back to Laughfest again in 2015. We shot more portraits and we liked them even more. In 2018, I was in Los Angeles for a few days and invited Justin to shoot with me in downtown Los Angeles. Justin has a fantastic way of raising the bar each time we get together and it’s so fun to shoot with him. This conversation takes place in Justin’s backyard in Studio City, California. We talk about his creative approach to “Magic For Humans,” our shared battle against Type 1 Diabetes and the mystique of The Magic Castle plus so much more. “Magic For Humans” on Netflix Justin Willman on Tour Justin on Instagram This episode is made possible by: Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn

Emilee Petersmark “You are very vulnerable when you’re telling stories. I do feel a sense of empowerment when I take control of the narrative.” - Emilee Petersmark on songwriting Emilee Petersmark is an incredibly talented singer/songwriter who is best known as the co-lead singer of the very successful four-piece, indie-folk band The Crane Wives. Emilee and I can’t really pin down how we came to know each other, but we don’t let that slow us down. In this great conversation, Emilee breaks down how to survive in the music business, the grind of touring as a band, the craft of songwriting, as well as discovering her sexual identity in the mid 2000’s. We also are very excited to share Emilee’s exclusive *STUDIO SESSIONS performance of her solo song “Empty Spaces.” It’s a beautiful performance that perfectly highlights her raw and emotive energy. We couldn’t be more thrilled that Emilee agreed to sing it for us. View it at www.fullexposurepodcast.com.  Emilee’s Instagram Emilee’s Personal website The Crane Wives website The Crane Wives Instagram Artists Creating Together website This episode is made possible by: Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn

Stacy Haiduk - *ON LOCATION *Los Angeles, California “Whatever we have is in this moment right now. And I wish I would have appreciated that more looking back.” - Stacy Haiduk Stacy Haiduk is an Emmy Nominated American actress based in Los Angeles. Over the past 30 years, she’s worked with the likes of Steven Spielberg, Aaron Spelling and has voiced characters for the recent video game series, “Star Wars: The Old Republic.” Scanning across Stacy lengthy and impressive IMDb credits, she might be best known for her roles as Patty Williams on “The Young & The Restless,” or Kristen Dimera on “Days Of Our Lives,” Lana Lang on “Superboy,” Jenny on HBO’s “True Blood”, Colleen on “Melrose Place” and Lt. Cmdr. Katherine Hitchcock on “Seaquest 2032”…among dozens of other roles in film and television. Stacy has also been my very good friend since the 7th grade. We graduated from Northview High School together in Grand Rapids, Michigan. She immediately moved to New York City to pursue her acting, dancing and modeling careers. I’ve always admired her tenacity and relentless drive in a difficult business. Talking to her over the years has inspired me to keep pursuing my own lofty goals…because I saw her doing it. For someone so accomplished, Stacy’s career has had plenty of ups and downs. She candidly shares with me some of her biggest disappointments as well as the unique way she’s survived financial stresses when she’s not been able to get consistent acting work. Stacy currently stars in the new feature film “Home Is Where The Killer Is” that was released in October on Netflix. She lives with her husband Bradford and is a dedicated mom to her daughter Sophia who is a rapidly emerging actress and model. Stream this episode in the player above, or watch select video excerpts of our conversation under the portrait gallery below. Stacy Haiduk Website Stacy Haiduk Instagram Stacy Haiduk Facebook Sophia Tatum’s Instagram (Stacy’s daughter) This *ON LOCATION episode is exclusively sponsored by: Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn Special thanks to my good friend and photographer Hiroshi Watanabe for allowing me to use his home for this special *ON LOCATION episode.

Rob Bell - *ON LOCATION *Los Angeles, California Rob Bell was named one of TIME magazine’s 100 Most Influential people in the WORLD in 2011; a global list that included the likes of Mark Zuckerberg, Beyoncé, The Koch Brothers, Oprah, Ai Wei Wei, Michelle Obama, Larry Page from Google, and Julian Assange of Wikileaks among others. If that’s not enough, Rob’s also toured with Oprah and has been profiled in the New Yorker. And to really set the stage for this episode I have to take you back to before this podcast started earlier this year. I had begun to imagine a wish-list of people I wanted to talk to as potential guests. A crazy variety of names would flash across my mind. Most of the early names that I came up with seemed entirely plausible; mostly people local to Grand Rapids like my artist friends or a whole host of interesting people that I’ve crossed paths with as a photographer over the last 20+ years. Eventually, right next to the “plausible” list, I started another column of names that seemed like a complete stretch…or at least really IM-plausible people to have on as guests. As both of these lists grew, this exercise of filling the “implausible” list seemed more and more silly to me. I mean, I didn’t even technically HAVE a podcast yet. And at that point I could have written ANYBODY’s name down because absolutely NOTHING was at stake. And I remember saying to myself, “yeah, right” immediately after I wrote the name “Rob Bell” down on the page. Rob founded one of the largest mega-churches in Michigan in Mars Hill. He had written internationally best selling books while a pastor there. But eventually Rob left the church he started and moved to Los Angeles to pursue “other opportunities” after elders began challenging that his teachings were no longer “biblical” enough for traditional evangelicals to stomach. He was labeled a “heretic” when his book “Love Wins” came out and was more or less unanimously ostracized by Christian leadership across the country. Rob is a complicated figure where I come from. For some people he’d become an iconic spiritual hero or renegade. And for others he was a cautionary tale of someone who had lost their way in Christianity. And despite the fact that I often have to photograph people making an impact around our community, Rob and I had never crossed paths despite having many mutual acquaintances for years. Roughly eight months after writing Rob’s name down, I found myself in Los Angeles shaking hands with him on the sidewalk in front of his home. And it felt a bit surreal. We talked for just over an hour and then we made some portraits together in his backyard. Have a listen. Rob Bell Website The Robcast on Apple Podcasts NOOMA Film - “FLAME” “THE HERETIC” Official Trailer - Documentary by Andrew Morgan This *ON LOCATION episode is exclusively sponsored by: Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn

Dwele - *ON LOCATION *Detroit, Michigan With one Grammy Award in his pocket and multiple Grammy nominations in his acclaimed career, Dwele has been a Detroit legend and R&B artist for nearly two decades. He started making waves in the Detroit music scene in the late 90’s while hustling his own cassette tapes. He quickly found himself tapped to sing some hooks on “Tainted” for Slum Village in 2002. The timing was perfect and the attention he received pushed his record label to get behind his first major label album. In 2007, Kanye West called on Dwele to contribute to the song “Flashing Lights” from his epic album “Graduation.” It became a global smash hit and a Grammy Winner. In subsequent years, high profile collaborations with Drake, Common and Big Sean catapulted Dwele to an even higher orbit. After five successful solo albums of his own, Dwele consistently tours around the globe with sell-out crowds in his wake. His fans are eagerly anticipating what his next move will be…but just don’t comment on his Instagram feed and ask when the new album is coming out. Dwele’s not saying. I first got to know Dwele in 2013 when I photographed him for my “Detroit Portraits” project. This portrait project was probably the most influential series of images I’ve ever made. I say that because nearly all of the people I photographed in Detroit for that project are still very much in my life today in one way or another. I think you’ll enjoy this conversation about Dwele’s music, bonsai trees, golf and the impact the death of his father at the age of ten had on his music. Dig in! Follow Dwele on Facebook Follow Dwele on Instagram Dwele.com This *ON LOCATION episode is exclusively sponsored by: Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn

“If I had a super power, it would be curiosity.” Eric Hultgren is a social media content and marketing expert. And he’s also a videographer, photographer, podcaster, keynote speaker and all around great guy…not to mention a husband and father. Eric always seems to be “in the know” about how all the latest tweaks and changes to Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and LinkedIn are going to affect your business and those changes might make it harder (or easier) for your audience to find your content. Eric’s also one of the reasons I started this podcast. Eric invited me to be a guest on The Incredible HULT, and that experience got me thinking more seriously about making up my mind to launch my own. So, basically…this is all Eric’s fault. And I can’t thank him enough. Follow Eric on Facebook Follow Eric on Instagram Follow Eric’s awesome podcast This episode is sponsored by: Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn Brian Kelly Photography & Film and Brian Kelly Productions

Will Jackson is known professionally as “Willie The Kid,” he’s an American rapper, songwriter, film producer, serial entrepreneur and tech investor from Grand Rapids, Michigan. Will represents Grand Rapids harder than most artists that find success in their hometowns and then go on to achieve even more success nationally and internationally. Willie The Kid is an even busier entrepreneur with recently launched spirits company Motu Viget, GRUSA apparel and outerwear, plus a restaurant and cocktail lounge in downtown Grand Rapids called Ambiance GR that will open later in 2019. All of these business efforts are inspired by his hometown and his desire for all races, nationalities, cultural and idealogical backgrounds to lift each other up and support one another. Motu Viget means “Strength in movement.” If that’s not enough, Will also keeps a base of operations in Atlanta, Georgia where he attended Clark Atlanta University; a historically black college that helped to sharpen his internal compass and vision. This conversation will get you inspired…Will is someone I truly admire and am very grateful to have him in my orbit. Follow Willie The Kid Follow Motu Viget Spirits Follow GR USA Apparel This episode is sponsored by: Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn Brian Kelly Photography & Film and Brian Kelly Productions

Faith Kelly has been a bright light in countless people’s lives after launching herself into the world with a splash of drama. She had suffered a brain hemorrhage inside the womb and required emergency surgeries to save her life just a week or so after being born. Very little has kept her spirits down ever since. Faith is constantly working to improve many of the lifelong physical and cerebral ramifications from those touch-and-go first few weeks in the hospital. Faith Kelly is now a fourteen year-old eight grader and also my daughter. She loves “hanging out” with her friends and cousins, cooking, playing UNO and going to the movies. After this podcast started earlier this year, Faith began asking me if she could be a guest. This caught me off guard. I really thought it was just a passing impulse and she would forget about it after a few weeks and then never bring it up again. But month after month Faith would ask, “Dad, when can I come on your podcast?” Well, that time is now. Our only agreement was that she would have to do a portrait session before we sat down for the podcast just like every other guest…I mean, it IS the premise of the entire podcast. I’ve mixed portraits from our podcast shoot but also from a favorite session of mine from about a year ago in the gallery below. Admittedly, this isn’t a typical Full Exposure Podcast episode, but I’m proud of our conversation and am glad Faith and I agreed to put it out into the world and see what happens. This episode is sponsored by: Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn Brian Kelly Photography & Film and Brian Kelly Productions

Kevin Buist has been the Artistic Director at ArtPrize since its inception over 10 years ago. Over the years, I’ve had a front row seat and watched how Kevin seemingly effortlessly handled some of Artprize’s most passionate and vitriolic critics. These critics could be a noisy bunch over the years, and ArtPrize has successfully weathered a few controversies from time to time. The way in which Kevin was always searching to find ways to improve the organization when the criticism was the strongest was nothing short of admirable. I can definitely say that ArtPrize would not be as successful as it has been without his calm demeanor, constant curiosity and deep knowledge of contemporary art. ArtPrize is now a biennial event, and with every odd numbered year it will morph into something called “Project 1”, which can presently be seen across Grand Rapids from September 7 - October 27, 2019. Kevin has been at the forefront of planning this huge scale event encompassing three locations and curating five very different artists around the city to install ambitious large-scale works. Kevin has curated Project 1 under the theme of “Crossed Lines.”  In this episode we dive deep into Kevin’s evolution at ArtPrize, what he’s learned about West Michigan over 10+ years at ArtPrize, why his favorite curator is also one who had one of the largest failures. We also cover “Crossed Lines” and all the commissioned artists exhibiting during the inaugural Project 1. Visit Project 1 for more information. This episode is sponsored by: Metro Health | University of Michigan Health and Dr. Peter Hahn Brian Kelly Photography & Film and Brian Kelly Productions

Kent Dobson was the leader and pastor of one of the best known mega-churches in the country. He had a good salary and the notoriety enjoyed by most pastors that hold that position. But his own hangups with religion and the struggle to find what he truly believed led him to leave Mars Hill in a move that shocked many people. And then just a month after making that monumental decision, his father Ed Dobson, who was a famous pastor, died after a 15 year battle with ALS. This 1-2 gut punch propelled Kent even deeper into the abyss of finding his true self.    Thankfully for us, Kent hasn’t found it yet. And he’s candidly sharing his journey full of frustrations, doubts, truths and personal struggles via his podcast as well as in his latest book, “Bitten by a Camel: Leaving Church, Finding God”   In a long and winding conversation, Kent and I discuss the death of his father, how he became a pastor in part to please his dad, certainty and doubt, death of ego and the soul, wishing things were easier to understand, the thirst for ultimate meaning, coin slot Christianity and ultimately how Kent feels grateful for his own hangups with religion.   Kent currently leads retreats and wilderness programs designed to cultivate human wholeness and pursue the perennial questions of the soul. He also guides pilgrimage adventures to Israel and speaks and lectures. Kent lives in Ada, Michigan, with his wife and three children.   This episode is presented by: Brian Kelly Photography & Film and Brian Kelly Productions

Adrian “AB” Butler is a DJ, streetwear designer, rapper and music producer based in West Michigan. He’s successfully merged all of these diverse natural talents into a business enterprise that continues to grow and evolve year after year. So what keeps a multi-faceted guy like AB up at night? Turns out I’m really glad I asked him during this episode…because it’s a mix of a lot of different stuff. Sometimes it’s the constant fountain of ideas running through his head, or the pressures of running a business, and at times it’s the adjustment to recently becoming a “sit-com dad” with three children of very diverse ages. AB’s legendary DJ sets are a cool mix of timeless classics, underground bangers, and everyone’s favorite songs that can often turn the stiffest corporate parties into a late night rager. He seamlessly blends the new and the old, criss-crossing genres and tapping into a deep understanding of what gets people up out of their seats and onto the dance floor. But the heart of this episode is his love of Grand Rapids and his desire to continue to grow outside of the region…something that is both a huge challenge and frustrating at times. Every entrepreneur can relate to different facets of AB’s journey, and I know you’ll find new ways to relate to this conversation. Follow AB: Instagram / Website This episode is presented by: Brian Kelly Photography & Film and Brian Kelly Productions.

I’m so stoked, you guys. This the premiere episode of “Full Exposure: ON LOCATION.” This is where we take the podcast on the road, travel to our guest, create the portraits and record the podcast in a location that is significant to them. In Bill Schwab’s case, I traveled deep into the woods to his home and the epicenter of his photography workshops in one of the most beautiful places in the world; Harbor Springs, Michigan. I hope to do many more episodes like this where we escape the walls of my studio from time to time. Bill Schwab’s poetic photographs will likely be forever associated with Detroit, his hometown of Dearborn…and Iceland. Check out a cross-section of his amazing work in the photo gallery below. In my opinion, he’s one of the finest living photographers working today. Bill and I have enjoyed a long and rich history. For nearly 20 years, Bill’s been a very influential friend that was instrumental in encouraging me in the earliest years of my shaky, naive, professional start as a photographer. In this conversation, Bill and I talk at length about the current state of affairs in Detroit, the dangers of the fine art art world, how Bill has pivoted with technology over the years, and his deep love of Iceland that spurred him to regularly lead spectacular photography tours on the island. Follow Bill here on Instagram / Website Explore Iceland with Bill on a tour of a lifetime. This episode is presented by: Brian Kelly Photography & Film and Brian Kelly Productions.

Without any hint of hyperbole, I can say that Michelle McKormick is a Michigan morning radio legend. She started her career when she was only 19 years old way back in the 80’s. Michelle’s been a trailblazer in an industry that is still often deeply misogynistic and a boys club to say the least.  Michelle admits she’s part “cheeseball” but has always been deadly serious about her career. Over time, she learned to call her own shots and to fight gender pay disparity wherever she can. Her long career has depended on people liking her on air…and the audiences have always embraced her. As a result, she has both thrived and survived in an extremely tough business. Today, Michelle loves to mentor women at any stage in their broadcasting careers and is deeply committed to the West Michigan community. In this episode, we unpack a lot of great celebrity stories about David Lee Roth, Barbara Streisand, and I also share one about Whoopi Goldberg. We also spill some dirt on her current radio partner Tony Gates on 96.9 WLAV. Ultimately, this conversation highlights many of the pillars of her success that we can all learn from. Follow Michelle on Facebook  Check out our amazing new website: www.fullexposurepodcast.com

SuperDre, aka Andrea Wallace, might best be known as a musician, extremely popular DJ and producer. But underneath the 1000’s of appearances in clubs and private parties around the world, Dre has quietly spent the majority of her time as a tech savvy entrepreneur in the startup space…with a stable of tech companies under her management. If that’s not enough, Dre most recently launched a sprits company with her partners called “Motu Viget” and they just released a new sparkling wine that’s making waves in bars, restaurants and soon will appear on Meijer shelves and other retailers. Dre doesn’t pull any punches on this episode, especially about what it’s like to be a woman and a minority in the very white, very male world ecosystem of startups and venture capital. If you’re looking for a conversation that inspires you to pursue and develop every part of yourself…even though you might feel like you have no idea what you’re doing, this is your episode. Dre says a lot of the early development and pitches of startup ideas is just guessing and conjecture…so dip a toe in the pool and don’t let anything stop you. Follow SuperDre: Instagram Follow Motu Viget Spirits: Instagram This episode is presented by: Brian Kelly Photography & Film and Brian Kelly Productions.

Since 2012, Joel Potrykus has arguably become one of the most successful and unusual independent film directors to ever emerge out of Michigan and land on the global cinema stage. Despite all of his success, Joel says he “doesn’t enjoy the process of making a movie.” Doesn’t that seem like a weird thing for a film director to say? Maybe…but not after you listen to this episode. Joel and I take a deep dive into his filmmaking and writing process, why he makes films in Grand Rapids when he doesn’t have to, why he thinks of his tight-knit and frequent film collaborators function as more of a band than a production company, as well as the many reasons he loves casting the incredibly talented Joshua Burge as the lead actor in many of his films. Joel’s previous films Ape, Buzzard and The Alchemist Cookbook all established him as a genius writer & director of odd, offbeat and campy films. The tone and style of his films caught the attention of, and quickly forged a business and creative relationship with famed independent film studio, Oscilloscope Laboratories, which was founded by the late Adam Yauch of Beastie Boys fame. But it’s his latest film, Relaxer, that is kicking everything up a few more notches for Joel Potrykus. To see the portraits and video clips of our conversation, visit www.fullexposurepodcast.com VOD-Stream “Relaxer” here: relaxer.pizza Follow Joel: Twitter / Instagram This episode is presented by: Brian Kelly Photography & Film and Brian Kelly Productions.

David Wenzel has lived with an inoperable, cancerous brain tumor for the last 10 years. After initially being diagnosed, David’s life completely fell apart...and I do mean COMPLETELY fell apart. His first wife divorced him shortly after his diagnosis, the cat they had shared together collapsed mid-stride across the dining room floor…and died. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Imagine dealing with all of the above PLUS the terminal diagnosis that estimated David only had 5 years left to live on this planet…and that’s if he was lucky. And the amazing part of David’s journey is that today he feels extremely lucky, and the happiest he’s ever been in his entire life. David’s incredibly raw, honest and often times hilarious life story is told in his new book, “Thank You, Kung Fu.” I highly recommend it because I believe it will help you or maybe someone you love. It certainly helped me. David and I dig into a ton of real life shit in this conversation. It’s inspiring. It's spiritual. It’s emotional. I actually cried during our conversation…a first for this podcast. David is one of the most fascinating and talented people I’ve ever met. So enjoy this latest episode of “Full Exposure with Brian Kelly” with David Wenzel, writer, author, cancer survivor and founder of Bent Not Broken. David's Social Links: IG: @bentnotbrokengathering IG: @davidvwenzel Bentnotbroken.org

Ansley Gulielmi, at the age of 19, is already a supermodel and a Top 50 Fashion Model in the world. And you might ask...ok, Brian...so what does Top 50 even mean? Well, it’s actually a business metric that measures the total number of magazine pages she’s in, plus advertising campaigns and global runway shows. But what it really means is that Ansley has become a really big business since she moved to New York City just 3 years ago at 16. Ansley’s been on the covers of Vogue, Número and also featured in many, many magazine spreads across the globe. More importantly, Ansley has recently been the face of major advertising campaigns by famed fashion houses Jil Sander, Givenchy and Versace, just to name a few. Ansley’s very candid in our interview about the pressures of running a successful business...because her body and face is literally the entire business. She’s set big goals for herself in an industry that is notorious for grinding up young talent and spitting them out. But I guarantee after listening to this conversation you’ll understand why I think the only limitations she’s ever going to face are the ones she puts on herself. She’s smart and she’s surrounded herself with family and good business people so she can achieve her dreams.  You’ll definitely want to check out the portraits I took inside and outside of my studio with Ansley here and also on our Full Exposure With Brian Kelly Facebook page. She's incredible and I think we shot some pretty nice work together if I don’t say so myself. Please follow Ansley on Instagram at @ansleygulielmi and @oliviaguli. This episode of "Full Exposure with Brian Kelly" Podcast is fueled by passion and Brian Kelly Photography and Brian Kelly Productions.

Kathryn Chaplow is someone who over the last 14 years has built one of the most unique and successful interior design firms in West Michigan that is working in both residential and commercial design. We discuss why she doesn’t put photos of her pancakes on Instagram, and how she’s built her 5-person firm largely without creating a lifestyle brand around herself on social media. Kathryn is highly focused on creating a positive culture around herself and her clientele and we spend time talking about how she fosters the individual talents of each of her designers on staff. And how the runaway success of programs on HGTV and Marie Kondo on Netflix pose specific challenges for designers. Follow @kathrynchaplowdesign @fullexposurepodcast on Instagram and Full Exposure With Brian Kelly on Facebook. This podcast is fueled by passion, Brian Kelly Photography and Film and Brian Kelly Productions.

Adeshola Makinde is a multi-media artist based in Grand Rapids, Michigan that is constantly evolving at the age of 28. He was raised in the Chicagoland suburbs. He got his start in photography taking photos at parties, concerts, fashion shows and other cultural events. He eventually found himself hustling to concerts around the country to photograph some of the most famous performers in music, both onstage and off. We’re talking about artists like D’Angelo, Lil Wayne, Travis Scott and Common to name a few. Some young photographers would call that a major success, and just keep doing that. But eventually Adeshola found himself longing to say much more with his work than just documenting live events…so, he started a small street wear label that began to experiment with social justice messages. And now today, he finds himself working in collage…sourcing and cutting out images and words from vintage magazines like Jet, Ebony Magazine and The Black Panther Party Newsletter. He then creates new collages and commentaries that tackle social issues that affect marginalized people. Follow Adeshola at www.adesholamakinde.com and @adesholamakinde on IG and Twitter. This podcast is fueled by passion, Brian Kelly Photography and Film and Brian Kelly Productions.   

If you look at the surreal creations of industrial designer Joey Ruiter, you might think he arrived here from the future. Brian and Joey discuss his career as a designer, his early struggles as an entrepreneur and studio owner. They also discuss how Joey collaborates on projects with photographers and videographers that document his futuristic designs to create crazy exposure of his work in books and magazines around the world. Check out Joey Ruiter at www.jruiter.com This episode is powered by passion, Brian Kelly Photography and Film and Brian Kelly Productions. You can view more of the portraits Brian creates of each guest in his studio just before they sit down to record their conversations here.

Bridget Clark Whitney is a powerhouse. She's the founding CEO of Kids' Food Basket, a multi-million dollar non-profit organization that addresses childhood hunger in West Michigan. Kids' Food Basket's explosive growth has made Bridget a highly strategic community leader and recognizable public figure. But her intense passion and all-consuming drive over the last 17 years to address hunger came at great cost to her health, and she nearly died from a combination of issues that forced her to look at many things in her life in a new and innovative light. This is a dense, inspiring and energizing episode that I promise will fly by...so let's do this...or as Bridget would say, "LEVEL UP!" This is episode is powered by passion Brian Kelly Photography & Film and Brian Kelly Productions.  

David Dyer is a seasoned and successful full-time comedian that travels the country. But Dave and Brian have also been friends since they were 7 years old. Brian starts off the podcast by settling an old beef that stemmed from Brian not inviting Dave to his 8th birthday party. They hash that issue out, reminisce about the joy of huge collisions playing football together and also talk about Dave's very successful career in comedy, growing up with 3 older brothers and why performing stand-up is the hardest form of entertainment. Check out David Dyer at www.daviddyercomedy.com and on IG @dyercomedy. If you want to view the portraits I make of each of my guests just before we sit down for our conversation, you can find them at www.briankellyphoto.net This podcast episode is powered by passion and www.briankellyphoto.net.

Do you guys like beer? Graci Harkema is the new Director of Inclusion and Diversity for Founders Brewing Company. She holds one of the few positions like this within the entire craft beer industry and she's perfectly suited for the position. Graci talks to me about her incredible story of survival as an infant in her birthplace of the Republic of the Congo, growing up in West Michigan as an adoptee, how she mistakenly thought her birth mother was dead her entire life...and what happened when she recently got on a plane and flew to The Congo to meet her for the first time in her village...and so much more!

The tale of two Brians...this very first episode of "Full Exposure" features Brian Vander Ark; lead singer of The Verve Pipe, successful solo artist, actor and writer. Brian and Brian discuss storytelling, songwriting, the value of being methodical, how Willie Nelson gave Brian a big boost of confidence early in his career, his friendship with A-list actor Jeff Daniels, and how owning your own failure has led to a successful corporate speaking career. Check it out! Leave us a comment and a rating if you like what we are doing. Follow Brian Vander Ark @thevervepipe and www.brianvanderark.com Follow Brian Kelly @briankellyphoto and www.briankellyphoto.net