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The Strangest Secret was released in 1956. Earl Nightingale’s 35-minute, six-and-a-half-thousand-word recording was one of the earliest motivational tapes. It sold more than a million copies and became the first spoken-word recording to achieve Gold Record status. The recording was released during a period of post-war economic expansion in the United States. Consumer culture was booming, and suburban home ownership was rising. The promise of upward mobility felt tangible for a growing American middle class encouraged to live a story about abundance, opportunity, and individual advancement. In this episode of The Gentle Rebel Podcast, I look at some of the ideas and assumptions running through The Strangest Secret, and how they echo themes that have become deeply embedded in self-help culture over the past century. https://youtu.be/-t_aynxdw9E What interests me is less whether Nightingale’s advice works than the story he tells about success, failure, responsibility, and human potential. It’s a format followed by generations of motivational speakers, coaches, entrepreneurs, and personal development enthusiasts. It continues to influence how many of us think about ourselves and the world today. I heard about The Strangest Secret through a video by Sean Munger titled The Tools Cult: History of the Amway Motivational Tape Scam. My attention was caught by a reference to Napoleon Hill, who inspired Nightingale when he read Think and Grow Rich in 1948. That book, as well as Nightingale’s tape, became important resources on the Amway reading list. Nightingale’s Definition of Success “When we say about 5% achieve success, we have to define success, and here's the definition. Success is the progressive realization of a worthy ideal.” This is a reasonable concept. To act in the service of bringing a worthy ideal into being provides a flexible definition that can be applied in many ways. Nightingale says he believes that success is a life lived with a specific sense of purpose and direction. So it’s confusing when he seems to undermine this by viewing success through a financial lens. He suggests that if you follow 100 men between the ages of 25 and 65, you would witness a desire for success at the start of life, but by the time they’re 65, one will be rich, four will be financially independent, five will still be working, and 54 will be broke. This underpins his position that only 5% of people are successful. So which is it? Being financially independent by age 65 or progressively realising a worthy ideal? Those things are not necessarily linked. An artist, a teacher, a carer, or a community organiser, and anyone who does something despite the lack of guaranteed financial reward. By Nightingale’s own definition, these people may well be successful. They are realising a worthy ideal. Yet his framework shifts from an existential definition of success to an economic one, where in reality, a person can only be deemed successful if they make lots of money. Self-Help Tropes Nightingale’s talk conforms with many of the self-help tropes we are becoming familiar with on this journey. The Secret “If you understand completely what I'm going to tell you from this moment on, your life will never be the same again. You will suddenly find that good luck just seems to be attracted to you. The things you want just seem to fall in line and from now on you won't have the problems, the worries, the knowing lump of anxiety that, perhaps, you have experienced before. Doubt, fear, well they'll be things of the past.” The idea of a secret runs through the history of self-help. There is always some missing piece, some hidden principle that, once understood and applied, will change everything. The details vary slightly from book to book, but the structure remains remarkably similar. The reader is invited to believe that happiness, peace, prosperity, confidence, healing, or fulfilment are all waiting on the other side of a single insight. It’s a compelling promise. Nice if true. Metaphor As Evidence Self-help authors often lean on metaphors in ways that make them seem like evidence for a position. Nightingale says, “People with goals succeed because they know where they’re going,” and compares successful people to ships sailing towards a predetermined destination. He then imagines a ship without a captain, crew, or destination and concludes that it will drift aimlessly. The comparison sounds persuasive until you stop and think about it. A ship is designed for a destination. Human beings are not. Some of the richest experiences in life emerge through experimentation, curiosity, accident, and changing direction. A ship without a crew and a destination isn’t fulfilling its literal purpose and reason for existing (built by humans as a logistical tool). A human is not the same. There are many reasons people choose not to structure their lives around the pursuit of goals. “The man who has no goal, who doesn't know where he is going and whose thoughts must therefore be thoughts of confusion and anxiety and fear and worry, becomes what he thinks about. His life becomes one of frustration, fear, anxiety and worry and if he thinks about nothing, he becomes nothing.” I would suggest that many successful people function effectively without the kind of goals Nightingale advocates. And people who have focused so obsessively on a single drive that they’ve lost important things like their health, relationships, and meaningful hobbies. Cherry-Picked Quotes Like many self-help authors, Nightingale draws on the authority of famous thinkers. One example is his quotation of Marcus Aurelius: “a man’s life is what his thoughts make of it.” I couldn’t find this in any of the translations of Meditations I checked, suggesting it is more likely a paraphrase than a direct quotation. The same pattern appears in his use of William James. Nightingale focuses on James’s claim that if you wish to be rich, learned, or good, you can become those things. “If you only care enough for a result, you will almost certainly ascertain it. If you wish to be rich, you will be rich. If you wish to be learned, you will be learned. If you wish to be good, you will good. Only you must then really wish these things and wish them exclusively and not wish at the same time a hundred other compatible things just as strongly.” To achieve something extraordinary requires excluding countless other possibilities. What happens when wealth becomes the exclusive organising principle of a life? What gets pushed aside? Relationships? Leisure? Health? Community? James seems at least as interested in that question as he is in achievement itself. Nightingale doesn’t acknowledge this. The Strangest Quote of Them All Perhaps the most confusing quote he uses is from George Bernard Shaw, who said, “People are always blaming their circumstances for what they are. I don't believe in circumstances. The people who get on in this world are the people who get up and look for the circumstances they want and if they can't find them, make them.” It sounds like Shaw was spouting a self-help slogan. But this sounded strange to me because Shaw was a committed socialist and a leading member of the Fabian Society. He spent much of his life criticising the idea that individuals simply rise or fall according to personal merit. He repeatedly explored how economic and social structures shape people’s lives in his plays. Throughout his work, Shaw explored the relationship between individual agency and the social conditions people inherit. So where did this quote come from? It is actually a line spoken by the character Vivie Warren in Mrs Warren’s Profession, not by Shaw directly. As with any playwright, author, or comedian, we need to be careful about treating a character’s words as the artist’s personal philosophy. Charles Dickens (Fagin – Oliver Twist) The Obligatory Call To Action (and disclaimer) Like any good self-help talk, Nightingale finishes with a challenge. Write down what you want more than anything else. Carry it with you. Look at it every day. Maintain a positive outlook and give more than you’ve ever given before. The framework handles failure with a familiar disclaimer. If the method works, it gets the credit. If it doesn’t work, responsibility falls back on the individual. You didn’t believe enough, weren’t committed enough, lost focus, or didn’t give what was required. This secret is neither particularly strange nor surprising. It is a derivative of Napoleon Hill. In fact, it’s almost identical to what he wrote in Think and Grow Rich. There is always another level of effort required and another reason success remains just beyond reach. The possibility that the promise itself might be flawed rarely enters the conversation. My Enduring Question There is a gap between the question Nightingale starts with and the answer he arrives at. As a child growing up in poverty, he wanted to understand why some people prospered while others struggled. It’s an interesting question to explore. It opens up the potential to probe into themes of opportunity, power, ownership, luck, and the socio-economic landscape of society itself. Yet by the end of The Strangest Secret, that complexity has been replaced by a one-dimensional explanation and cure. Inequality is a direct product of our thoughts, goals, and willingness to work in the service of our personal dream. This move has become so familiar within self-help culture that it can be difficult to notice. Social questions become personal. Structural problems are solved by mindset. Inequality becomes a failure of ambition, and burnout becomes a failure of attitude. More than seventy years after The Strangest Secret was released, people are still being sold variations of the same promise. Support My Work It takes me time to research, produce, and edit these episodes. You can support me by sending a one-off donation or join us in the membership.

Si ya tomaste la decisión de hacer el negocio de Amway, pues hazlo de la mejor manera posible, hazlo como lo han hecho los que han llegado. Si eres capaz de enfocarte por un tiempo en el negocio ya marcaste la diferencia en todo..

We all knew her as the lovable Chloe Sullivan on Smallville, but behind the scenes, Allison Mack was hiding a deeply disturbing secret. In this episode of Five's a Crowd, we dive deep into the sick reality of the NXIVM sex cult and the sinister figurehead, Keith Raniere. From executive success seminars to the terrifying dark underbelly of DOS, blackmail, and human branding, we break down how a beloved CW sweetheart became a master enforcer in one of the most shocking true-crime stories in Hollywood history.Thank you for being part of this crowd!You've got burning questions, we've got answers! Call or Text us for the worst advice imaginable, and we may feature it on an upcoming podcast! ** 801-513-3373 **Reddit- Our Subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/FivesACrowd- Our Account: https://www.reddit.com/user/FivesACrowdPodcastFollow Our Personal AccountsAustin - https://allmylinks.com/austinspomerCam - https://www.instagram.com/effinburch/Chris - https://www.instagram.com/thechrishummel/Tony - https://www.instagram.com/theonlytonyc/Zach - https://www.instagram.com/zvanbeekum/00:00 - Start!00:05 - A dark opening joke to set the mood00:42 - Smallville high school crushes04:00 - From Hollywood actress to federal court09:09 - Meet Keith Raniere and the "Vanguard" illusion15:29 - How NXIVM masqueraded as business coaching24:33 - DOS: The terrifying secret inner circle25:19 - Blackmail and the sinister collateral system27:17 - The horrifying branding ceremonies34:36 - Allison Mack's role as a top Cult Lieutenant45:15 - Was Mack a victim or a perpetrator?47:29 - FBI arrests and federal indictments52:12 - A shockingly short prison sentence57:35 - Marrying a former neo-Nazi and life after prison01:01:48 - Amway, MLM red flags, and pyramid schemes01:05:48 - One last terrible joke to lighten the moodHashtags#Podcast #NXIVM #AllisonMack #TrueCrime #Cults #Smallville #FivesACrowd #Podcast #HollywoodScandalsP.O. Box**Please no packages, letters only**Five's A Crowd Podcast1123 N Fairfield Rd #1373 Layton, UT 84041

Carlos Jurado ingeniero civil & Yasmin nos enseñan en esta conferencia que encontró en AMWAY la oportunidad de alcanzar la libertad financiera que siempre deseó para tener más tiempo de calidad con su familia.

From the factory floor to his time as CEO of global wellness and network marketing company Mannatech, Alfredo Bala’s journey is proof of what belief, vision, and persistence can create. In this episode of The Direct Selling Accelerator Podcast, I’m joined by an incredible leader, coach, author, and motivational expert - Alfredo Bala, also known as ‘The Motivation Guy.’ Having known Alfredo for the past 7 years, I’ve seen firsthand the impact of his wisdom on mindset, self-belief, and the power of spoken words. We dive into how to regain motivation when you’ve lost your mojo, why having an ‘outer focus’ instead of an ‘inner focus’ can completely shift your momentum, and the importance of continually redefining your ‘why’ as you grow through life and business. Drawing from insights in his book, The Motivation Equation, Alfredo shares practical tips and powerful reminders that will help you grow your business, elevate your mindset, and move the needle in your life. I’m so excited for this conversation - I know you’ll walk away inspired, motivated, and ready to take action! We’ll be talking about: ➡ [03:42] From ‘Factory Worker’ to CEO ➡ [05:15] 46 Years in Direct Selling ➡ [08:24] Becoming “The Motivation Guy” ➡ [11:33] The Power of Spoken Declarations ➡ [15:21] Motivation = Dreams x Beliefs ➡ [18:09] Clarity Creates Momentum ➡ [23:12] FREE SOCIAL MEDIA CHALLENGE ➡ [25:09] Building Self-Belief in Business ➡ [28:12] Get Around Successful People ➡ [35:09] The Butterfly & Cocoon Lesson ➡ [39:54] Stop Focusing Only on Yourself ➡ [41:39] Finding Your “Why” ➡ [46:54] Motivation vs Manipulation About Our Guest: Alfredo Bala is a global business leader, keynote speaker, executive consultant, and author of the upcoming book The Motivation Equation. With more than 45 years of experience in entrepreneurship, leadership, manufacturing, wellness, and Network Marketing, Alfredo has built and scaled organizations across more than 65 countries worldwide. He previously served as CEO of Mannatech, a publicly traded wellness company specializing in glycan technology and cellular nutrition, where he led the organization through a major global transformation and expansion. Prior to that, he spent nearly two decades helping build one of the largest international Network Marketing organizations in the world through Britt Worldwide and Amway. Known for his dynamic communication style and deep understanding of leadership psychology, duplication systems, culture-building, and personal reinvention, Alfredo now mentors CEOs, entrepreneurs, and top field leaders on how to scale organizations while building purpose-driven legacies. Originally born in Dakar, Senegal, to Cape Verdean parents, Alfredo brings a unique global perspective shaped by resilience, faith, family values, and multicultural leadership. His message centers on helping people unlock their full potential through mindset, discipline, personal growth, and service to others. Today, Alfredo continues to speak internationally on leadership, motivation, entrepreneurship, wellness innovation, and the future of the Direct Selling profession. Resources: Pre-Order Al’s Book: The Motivation Equation: The Art And Science of Getting People To Take Action Paperback by Al Bala https://bit.ly/4e8E8yG Al’s Recommendation: The Magic of Thinking Big: The motivational bestseller on the power of positive thinking by David J Schwartz https://bit.ly/4fP5ifb Quote: “In all adversity lies seeds of greater opportunity” - unknown source Connect with Alfredo Bala: ➡ Website: https://alfredobala.com/ ➡ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/alfredo.bala/ ➡ LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/alfredo-bala-9719013/ Free Facebook community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/socialmediafordirectsellerswithgregandsam/ Are you ready to keep growing? Learn more about joining the Auxano Family - https://go.auxano.global/welcome Connect with Direct Selling Accelerator: ➡ Visit our website: https://www.auxano.global/ ➡ Subscribe to YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/DirectSellingAccelerator ➡ Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/auxanomarketing/ ➡ Sam Hind’s Instagram: https://instagram.com/samhinddigitalcoach ➡ Follow us on Facebook: https://facebook.com/auxanomarketing ➡ Email us: community_manager@auxano.global If you have any podcast suggestions or things you’d like to learn about specifically, please send us an email at the address above. And if you liked this episode, please don’t forget to subscribe, tune in, and share this podcast. Are you ready to join the Auxano Family to get live weekly training, support and the latest proven posting strategies to get leads and sales right now - find out more here: https://go.auxano.global/welcomeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Cambiar tu vida con Amway no empieza cuando las circunstancias son perfectas... empieza cuando tomas una decisión valiente, abres tu mente y te permites construir un futuro diferente.

Shop Talk shares a UK article that advocates understanding your cognitive strengths for better career outcomes. Caught My Eye covers a collector's missing LEGO collection involving the Bricks & Minifigs franchise. Also, New York, and other US States are cracking down on fake temporary license plates. Jay Van Andel, co-founder of Amway, is our Business Birthday. We're all business. Except when we're not. Apple Podcasts: apple.co/1WwDBrC Spotify: spoti.fi/2pC19B1 iHeart Radio: bit.ly/4aza5LW Tunein: bit.ly/1SE3NMb YouTube Music: bit.ly/43T8Y81 Pandora: pdora.co/2pEfctj YouTube: bit.ly/1spAF5a Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

"Contacto y Expansión en Amway" es una formación ideal para quienes desean crecer en el negocio, perder el miedo a invitar, ampliar su círculo de influencia y comprender que toda gran organización comienza con una conversación bien enfocada.

In this episode of One More Round, Josh sits down with Taylor Thompson, a 26-year-old sales professional who has spent the last four and a half years in the door-to-door solar industry.Taylor shares her journey from working in her family's business during COVID, to moving to Arizona, getting involved in sales, knocking doors, and discovering a career path that changed her life.This conversation dives into sales, entrepreneurship, faith, networking, personal growth, mentorship, and Taylor's mission to help more women step into sales with confidence, training, and opportunity.Taylor opens up about the lessons she learned from working in a family business, her early experience in Amway, the emotional side of door-to-door sales, and why she believes women can thrive in sales when they have the right mentorship and environment.Whether you are in sales, building a business, looking for your next opportunity, or trying to become more confident talking to people, this episode is packed with real-world lessons and encouragement.Show NotesIn this episode, Josh and Taylor discuss:Taylor's early exposure to entrepreneurship and growing up in a business-minded family.What it was like working in her family's furniture business during COVID and learning how to keep moving forward when things get difficult.The lessons Taylor took from Amway, including mindset, personal development, consistency, and learning how to talk to people.How Taylor got into door-to-door solar sales and why getting a deal on her second day changed how she viewed opportunity.The emotional side of sales, including rejection, persistence, and building confidence through action.Why women can thrive in sales and why Taylor is passionate about creating more mentorship and opportunity for women in the door-to-door space.The importance of being genuinely interested in people and how that impacts sales, networking, and business.Why showing up to networking events, having real conversations, and meeting new people can create life-changing opportunities.Taylor's bigger vision to create content, training, and resources that help more women enter sales, make money, and grow with confidence.Contact TaylorConnect with Taylor Thompson on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/solarprincesstay/

In this episode, we sit down with West Michigan native BJ Snow, the newly appointed Vice President of Sporting Operations and Strategy for MLS Next Pro expansion side AC Grand Rapids. BJ breaks down what his role looks like day-to-day, how he'll collaborate with Darrius Barnes to build a competitive roster and coaching staff, and what fans in Grand Rapids can expect from this exciting new club. We also dive into the club's plans for developing a grassroots academy deeply connected to the West Michigan soccer community — one built to develop local talent and create a real pathway to the first team. Plus, BJ shares his thoughts on Amway Stadium, the club's brand new 8,500-seat home in the heart of downtown Grand Rapids, and why it could be a game-changer for soccer in the region.If you loved this episode, drop us a review and rating — it genuinely helps us grow! ⚽

Hablamos con Miguel de Soria, Responsable de Reputación Corporativa y Comunicaciób Externa de Amway Europa

Amway es la oportunidad que todos sueñan, pero no todos la van a entender.

What does it really mean to lead at the highest level in the automotive industry today?In this episode, Jan Griffiths sits down with Phil Biggs, the man quietly trusted by more than 100 CEOs across automotive and beyond. Known as the “CEO whisperer,” Phil has spent nearly a decade creating a confidential space where leaders can speak openly about the pressure, uncertainty, and responsibility that comes with the top job.And one thing is clear: leadership has changed.The old command-and-control model is breaking under the weight of constant disruption. Tariffs. Supply chain shocks. AI. Workforce shifts. EV uncertainty. The pressure never stops. Phil shares what he's learned from years of listening to CEOs behind closed doors and why emotional intelligence, trust, and authenticity are now non-negotiable leadership traits.This conversation goes deep into the loneliness of leadership, the tension between kindness and toughness, and why the best CEOs know how to balance both humanity and accountability. Jan and Phil also unpack the dangerous automotive habit of glorifying leaders who stay buried in the weeds instead of empowering their teams to lead.At its core, this episode is about the future of leadership in automotive and the cultural shift required to survive what's coming next.Because today's leaders don't need more control.They need courage, trust, and the ability to lead humans through uncertainty.Themes Discussed in this EpisodeWhy leadership at the top is often deeply lonelyThe role trust plays in high-level CEO conversationsWhy command-and-control leadership no longer worksThe balance between kindness and toughness in leadershipEmotional intelligence as a critical CEO competencyWhy automotive leaders must stop glorifying micromanagementEmpowering teams is more important than controlling themHow disruption is reshaping leadership expectations across automotive

En esta inspiradora conferencia de Amway, Leyla y Camilo Pinto comparten un poderoso mensaje sobre crecimiento personal, liderazgo, sueños, mentalidad y transformación.

Lo que más te hace crecer en (Amway) son los auspicios de calidad, la mayoría de las personas en el negocio se distrae en acciones improductivas, aprender esta lección puede marcar la diferencia entre un networker profesional aún no amateur..

Dos empresarios Amway, profesionales en la salud, y el Director de Marketing LATAM nos hablan sobre innovación, calidad, trazabilidad y respaldo global. Hablamos de bienestar, nutrición, salud intestinal, investigación científica y cómo una marca líder desarrolla soluciones enfocadas en mejorar la calidad de vida.

Kṛṣṇa likes it when we care about other peoples' consciousness and we take steps to help them. He says so in the Bhagavad-gītā; He says, "One who preaches the Bhagavad-gītā to others is the most dear to Me." And when we do it, we achieve a kind of realization that's not available when we just keep it to ourselves. There is a way in which, when we give mercy to others, we get a superior kind of realization that happens when we vicariously experience, again and again, souls reawakening by coming in contact with the Holy Name in written form, or by hearing the hari-nāma, or coming in contact with devotees. In previous yugas, when yajña was the means to please the Lord, it's mentioned that brāhmaṇas used to test their mantras. In fact, they would sacrifice an animal and then bring it back to life with the mantras; that way, they would know the efficacy of their mantras, and then it would give them superior faith in the mantras to be able to do the yajñas properly. In a similar way, when we go and give the mantras to other people—like down in Watford—people are wandering aimlessly down there for various reasons, their souls under the various modes of material nature. But when we take the trouble to go there and we meet them, and we give them the mahā-mantra and so forth—we test our own mantra. When we see it—see its potency and its effect on other people—then we get a superior realization of how powerful it is, rather than staying in an insular state. That's powerful too, but it's more powerful when we give it to others because then we see the effect. Isn't it the most valuable and enlivening of all perspectives to be in the hari-nāma saṅkīrtana and to watch people's reactions to it as they're walking by? I mean, I want front-row seats there! Any busy street in the world and just notice the effect that the Holy Name has—not just on people, but animals too—and watch the effect when they get touched by the mantra. Some people start dancing, some people run away as best they can, and some people pretend like it's not even happening. Even if it's a rip-roaring kīrtana, that can be the most fascinating of all because, you know they're in there, and you know they hear it, and still they try to ignore it. Then it gives us a perspective of our sojourn in the material world. Kṛṣṇa has been speaking to us this whole time, and He's always there within every atom, but we're ignoring Him. We can become circumspect and think about what is our sojourn. That all happens by outreach, by preaching to other people. Plus, as it's mentioned in the song about Lord Nityānanda, how He's a broker; He's selling the Holy Name. He started in a marketplace. This is MLM, in case you ever wanted to join multi-level marketing—you're already in it! This was the precursor to Amway, and Lord Nityānanda started that. It's mentioned by Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura that you bring people to Lord Nityānanda and sign them up for the product, and you get your commission. Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura says—he said, "We'll all take the commission; we'll all take some." They pay the price with their faith—it's their śraddhā. ------------------------------------------------------------ To connect with His Grace Vaiśeṣika Dāsa, please visit https://www.fanthespark.com/next-steps/ask-vaisesika-dasa/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=video&utm_campaign=launch2025 https://vaisesikadasayatra.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------ Add to your wisdom literature collection: https://iskconsv.com/book-store/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=video&utm_campaign=launch2025 https://www.bbtacademic.com/books/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=video&utm_campaign=launch2025 https://thefourquestionsbook.com/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=video&utm_campaign=launch2025

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En Amway, no utilizamos personas para construir un negocio, sino que utilizamos el negocio para construir personas. Nos sentimos orgullosos de la familia que hemos creado y sabemos que hacemos la diferencia en la vida de miles de personas. (Amway) tiene los mejores productos dentro de la industria, tiene el mejor plan de compensación y el mejor sistema educativo que jamás se haya creado en la historia del emprendimiento. Humildemente somos bendecidos por estar en amway...

All perfumes go to heaven. Heaven = the Fragrance Vault in Lake Tahoe. Jana Menard is the owner of Fragrance Vault, a one-of-a-kind perfume store in Lake Tahoe that carries niche, commercial, and incredibly hard-to-find, rare vintage perfumes (so like... everything). Today we chat about her store, how she sources and authenticates vintage, the most precious and rare gems in her collection, and her disciplined and benevolent philosophy around collecting. SOTD: Sana Jardin Vanilla Nomad FRAGS MENTIONED:Balenciaga B. Skin, L'Interdit, Caron Infini, YSL Y, Catherine Deneuve Deneuve, Jorum Studio Elegy, Darren Alan Songe à Fleurs, ERIS Belle du Jour, BR540, Dior Sauvage EDT, Darren Alan Sea Fever, D&G Light Blue, Indult Manakara, Avon: Sweet Honesty, Lily of the Valley; Revlon Ciara, DVF Tatiana, Estée Lauder Youth Dew, Guerlain Shalimar, Chanel No 5, Ralph Lauren Lauren, YSL Paris, Maxim's de Paris, Payot Pavlova, Salvador Dali Laguna, YSL Kouros, Frederic Malle Portrait of a Lady, Initio Atomic Rose, Davidoff Cool Water, Ralph Lauren Polo, Robert Piguet Bandit, Guerlain Shalimar, Annick Goutal, Perfumer's Workshop, Etat Libre d'Orange, L'Artisan, Shiseido Nombre Noir Pure Parfum, Beaufort Acrasia, Chanel No. 46, Femme Rochas, Prince Matchabelli: Wind Song, Queen of Georgia; Guerlain: Mitsouko, L'Heure Bleue, Shalimar; Mary Kay, Amway, Miss Dior, Nina Ricci L'Air du Temps, Victoria's Secret Rapture, Mugler Angel, Viktor & Rolf FlowerBomb, Rogue Perfumery, Les Indemodables Musc des SablesSHOP: fragrancevault.net | FOLLOW: @fragrance.vaultJANA IN ALLURE!BOOK AN IN-PERSON SCENT CONSULT WITH ME! stele.shop/emma

“We can't just walk up in people's neighborhoods and not come the right way—it's not going to end well for you.” In this Detroit is Different conversation, Marlin Williams—Founder of Intentional Technology and the force behind Sisters Code—shows why tech decisions are really decisions about people, power, and legacy. From Alabama roots to growing up on Commonwealth and Six Mile/Outer Drive, Marlin traces how Legacy Black Culture travels: migration, church, cousins, and the “nice to be nice” relationship code. She remembers entrepreneurship before the label—Amway, pots-and-pans parties my parents held—and says the real lesson was making folks feel “like they're the only person in the room.” Then she takes us into Cass Tech, FAMU freedom, Wayne State, and Compuware's 13-week programming gauntlet—“seven languages in 13 weeks”—that launched her into building systems behind banking and auto. Marlin reflects on helping move Compuware downtown with community-minded intent, and how Sisters Code was born onstage when she saw people “getting left out.” Today, her mission is simple: be intentional—“make sure your work gets all you need”—so our organizations save time, money, and protect our peace for the future. Detroit's past built it; our choices build tomorrow. Detroit is Different is a podcast hosted by Khary Frazier covering people adding to the culture of an American Classic city. Visit www.detroitisdifferent.com to hear, see and experience more of what makes Detroit different. Follow, like, share, and subscribe to the Podcast on iTunes, Google Play, and Sticher. Comment, suggest and connect with the podcast by emailing info@detroitisdifferent.com

From starting his career in civil service to becoming an Amway entrepreneur on the side to eventually achieving immense success as a freelance copywriter and business owner, "Doberman Dan" has learned A LOT from his incredibly unconventional journey. Join Dan Kennedy and Doberman Dan as they discuss the most important lessons he's learned about copywriting from his wild experiences in the direct-response marketing world and the mentors (like Gary Halpert) that led him to become the expert he is today! MagneticMarketing.com NoBSLetter.com

On this episode of The Federalist Radio Hour, Doug DeVos, businessman and chair of the National Constitution Center, joins Federalist Senior Elections Correspondent Matt Kittle to analyze the state of the American Dream and discuss what it will take to return to the nation's founding principles.Read DeVos' book Believe!: A Timeless Endorsement of American Principles here.If you care about combating the corrupt media that continue to inflict devastating damage, please give a gift to help The Federalist do the real journalism America needs.   

Doug DeVos, former President and current co-chair of Amway, joins Aaron Renn to discuss the 50th-anniversary re-release of his father Rich DeVos' 1975 classic book Believe!In an era of cynicism and drift, Rich's unapologetic optimism, faith in people, love of America, and defense of free enterprise feel more urgent than ever. From sinking boats off Cuba to building one of the world's largest private companies, this is a conversation about risk, patriotism, and perseverance.CHAPTERS(00:00 Introduction)(03:20 “You can do it!” – Why failure doesn't make you a failure)(04:20 The flight school, the sunken boat, and the spirit of adventure)(06:30 Why the most interesting people always go off-script)(08:40 Rich DeVos' old-school, hand-over-heart patriotism in the 1970s (and today))(11:50 How to stay relentlessly positive when everything looks dark)(13:30 Why Doug decided to bring the book back in 2025)(15:10 The multi-generational friendship between the DeVos and Van Andel families)(19:30 Why socialism keeps sounding good when a country starts “drifting”)(22:20 Rich DeVos' simple definition of free enterprise)(25:25 The regulatory state: What would Rich say about today's red tape?)(28:35 America vs. China – Are we really falling behind?)(30:40 A 90-year-old planning the next 50 years: the ultimate long-term thinking)(33:20 Final message: The glass is still half full) DOUG DEVOS LINKS:

How to Support the Rob Skinner Podcast.  If you would like to help support my mission to multiply disciples, leaders and churches, click here:  https://www.buymeacoffee.com/robskinner   Michael and Angela DeAquino have a unique passion and ministry:  Coaching parents on how to raise their kids before their first child is born.  Hoping to avoid many of the pitfalls of parenting this couple with five kids believe that the earlier parents get help raising their kids, the better.  They recently wrote a book on the subject and are helping ministries prepare married couples to raise spiritual kids. More about Michael and Angela: Michael was born to Brazilian parents who immigrated to the U.S. and eventually settled in Chicago. His dad was trying to make ends meet and got involved in Amway for a time. One day, while knocking on doors in their apartment building, he met a group of disciples who were having a Bible talk. They invited him in, and not long after, both of Michael's parents became Christians in the Chicago church. Michael was six years old at the time. He grew up in the Chicago church and was part of an awesome youth ministry. At 14, he decided to become a disciple himself. After graduating high school in 2003, he joined the campus ministry in Champaign, IL. During his sophomore year, he visited a friend who attended Harding University and loved the atmosphere there. He transferred to Harding his junior year to pursue a Bible degree with a focus on Youth and Family Ministry. During his senior year, his former teen ministry leader from Chicago called and asked if he'd consider leading the campus ministry in Cincinnati. After graduating in 2007, Michael moved to Cincinnati to take on that role. Angela didn't grow up in the ICOC. She was first invited to church in fourth grade by her best friend Kelly, who invited her on the bus. Angela came on and off but eventually became a Christian her senior year of high school in 2006. She was part of the graduating class that moved from the teen ministry into the Cincinnati campus ministry in 2007, which is when Michael began leading it. We started dating in 2008 and got married in 2011. We had our first child in 2013 and today have five kids (one boy and four girls). In 2017, we were invited to interview for the Youth and Family Ministry position in Denver, Colorado. We moved there in 2018 and led the ministry for four years. In 2022, we transitioned out of full-time ministry. Angela now stays home and homeschools our kids, and Michael works full-time as a realtor here in Denver. The Parenthood Primer and The Parenthood Project Ministry After 11 years doing campus ministry, we noticed that many campus students who had been raised in our churches were struggling spiritually. The reason we decided to move to Denver to serve in Youth and Family Ministry was because we thought that if we could reach them earlier, in high school or middle school, we could help them be better prepared. But eventually, we realized the real need was to reach parents earlier. That insight led us to the idea of pre-parental counseling, helping couples prepare for parenting before they even have kids. We wrote a book called The Parenthood Primer: A Pre-Parental Counseling Workbook for Expecting Christian Couples. It is designed to help couples build a solid foundation for faith and family before their child arrives. We also started The Parenthood Project, a non-profit ministry that helps churches build young parent ministries. Many churches do a great job with teens, campus students, young professionals, and marrieds, but once people start having kids, they often lose that sense of community and support. Our goal is to help churches bridge that gap by equipping and encouraging young parents early on so their homes can be spiritually strong from the start. There are long-term benefits for churches and it's also a huge evangelistic opportunity. Our focus now is helping churches and parents build strong families before and during those early parenting years. We have a website where parents and churches can sign up for our online pre-parental counseling course, along with many other resources and opportunities. (We are currently involved in helping 13 churches.) Michael and Angela DeAquino

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Lesley Logan chats with Jill Allen, orthodontic consultant, business strategist, and host of the Hey Docs! podcast, about building a thriving business by balancing logic, courage, and heart. Jill shares how she niched into startups, overcame imposter syndrome, and grew a national consulting practice from scratch with clarity, confidence, and a willingness to figure it out. Together they explore how curiosity and smart decision-making helped her be it till she saw it—and how you can too.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! Never miss another show by subscribing at LesleyLogan.co/subscribe https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/#follow-subscribe-free.In this episode you will learn about:How Jill discovered her entrepreneurial path in the orthodontic industry.Why niching down can create more opportunity and success in your business.What it takes to build confidence and overcome imposter syndrome as a founder.How block scheduling and focus can transform the way you work.The mindset shift that helps you make smart decisions without getting lost in emotion.Episode References/Links:Practice Results Website - https://www.practiceresults.comHey Docs! Podcast - https://www.practiceresults.com/hey-docsJill Allen on Instagram - https://instagram.com/jillallenandassociatesBook: Brave Not Perfect by Reshma Saujani - https://a.co/d/gpsWODMGuest Bio:The visionary owner and founder of Jill Allen & Associates, Jill is the driving force behind the company's success and a trailblazer in the orthodontic consulting industry. With a passion for helping orthodontic practices thrive, she has built her firm into one of the most respected and sought-after consulting groups in the field. Her expertise and hands-on approach have shaped the success of countless practices, solidifying her as one of the most influential figures in orthodontic consulting today. Jill's influence extends further as a strategic partner in multiple start-up companies, where she helps push innovation in the orthodontic space. Jill's passion project finds her as the host of the Hey Docs! podcast, a project born from her vision to provide valuable resources to orthodontists. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure and give us a five star rating and leave us a review on iTunes, Podcast Addict, Podchaser or Castbox. https://lovethepodcast.com/BITYSIDEALS! DEALS! DEALS! 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I don't want to lead with my heart. I want to lead with good business decisions. And if it's meant to be, it's going to work out, the doors are going to open. And if it's not, hey, there'll be something else that you know that will come my way. Lesley Logan 0:17  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.  Lesley Logan 0:57  All right, Be It babe. This is really fun. Because of the world of podcasting, I get to do things where I get to meet people that I probably would never have, like, thought about for the show, and also need for the show, like, definitely need it. So this is, like, a total win for both our guests and I today. In fact, I'll get to be on her podcast soon. But our guest is Jill Allen, and I wanted to say, like you're going to hear when she introduce herself that she's a consultant for brand new startup orthodontics. And then I want you just to insert whatever it is that you are wanting to do, whatever it is you're already doing, and apply everything she says to that, because it applies to everyone. And it was such a fun conversation for us both. I got reminders about some things that I did in my early business. And I was like, oh, pat myself on the back. I got to, like, agree on the things that I'm actually teaching Pilates instructors everywhere about their startup. So, like, it actually doesn't matter that her work is in consulting orthodontics. That being said, if you want to be an orthodontist, or, you know, someone who is and they want to have their own practice, this is your expert. I got her for you. She's great, and so please enjoy the fabulous interview and the Be It Action Items are important, no matter if you never want to work for yourself, and especially if you do, so make sure you stay till the end. Here is Jill. Allen. Lesley Logan 2:15  All right, Be It babe. I am super excited to have this awesome conversation we're gonna have today, but mostly because anyone from Denver is a friend of mine. Jill Allen is our guest today, and she is coming to us from Denver. She is the host of the Hey Docs! Podcast. Jill Allen, can you tell everyone who you are and what you rock at?Jill Allen 2:32  Sure. Sure. So my name is Jill Allen. I am an orthodontic consultant, actually, and I have been in the orthodontic field for a little over 19 years, with my own business a little over 30 within the industry. And you know, I specialize on helping doctors start up their orthodontic practices and get their practices off the ground and running. And then I also host a podcast that I've been doing for little over a year now, just helping get good information out there to new business owners.Lesley Logan 3:06  Yeah, well, because, I mean, like, even though you specialize in orthodontic offices, a lot of the same systems apply to everything, to all doctors, but also to, like, any small business, anything and like, this is the funny thing you guys like, when you go to law school, when you go to orthodontics school, tennis school, like, Pilates school, they don't teach you how to be a business owner. Jill Allen 3:32  Absolutely. Yep, yep. Lesley Logan 3:34  They don't tell you any of that. Well, that's a shame, because then the best dentists and orthodontists and doctors out there might not actually get the clients, because they don't have the business acumen. So how did, okay, yeah, so 19 years in that world, that's a long time I'd already done braces by then. So, like, it's, thank goodness my parents invested in that at an early age. But how did you did you like, always want it, like, tell us how you got into this in the first place? Take us back. Jill Allen 4:02  Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, it is kind of a fun, a fun story. And I was, you know, really thinking about this, you know, as as I was preparing, you know, to be on the show here today. And, you know, it's kind of funny, because even before I got started, I have always had a very entrepreneurship, just, personality from, you know, being a being a little girl, and my mom, you know, I, I'm going to date myself here, but, you know, being like, hey, you want to make some money go out and sell Amway. Here's some, you know. Here's some bottles of cleaner, you know. And she's sending her third grader out to, you know, rack on doors. And be like, hey, you want to buy some, you know, cleaner or whatnot. But, you know, for for me, just in my, you know, kind of who I am and who I was, I have always just had that spirit of, I want to be my own business owner. And so, as you know, I was, you know, kind of coming up through, you know, my my years, and then getting into orthodontics, I had an opportunity to work in an ortho office, and, you know, was just like, oh, this is just really cool. I like, I like, just the synergy of of this, this business industry, and it's such a niche industry. So with that in, you know, kind of, you know that that mindset, I was actually really blessed to work with some really progressive orthodontists who really believed in continuing education and just, you know, being on kind of the cutting edge of making their business better. So it wasn't just about treating the patient, but it was about, how do I, you know, make my team better? How do I make myself better so that I can provide this really great patient experience? So I got an opportunity at an early age to really get in and see, I'll say, some sages of our time within our industry, kind of at their peak. And for me, I was like, oh my gosh, this is exactly what I want to do, you know. I want to be able to, you know, kind of work in this field and help people, you know, just see what a, what a great field this is. So that's, that's kind of how I got into it. And, you know, for me, I kind of worked my way up and through the practice. And then, you know, 19 years ago was like, okay, I've kind of done everything that I need to do to learn about the business side of doing business. And then, you know, kind of stepped into the orthodontic space and said you know what, I can do this. I can step into this space as a consultant, and just kind of jumped off from there. Now, now, of course, you know, it was, you know, a really, you know, kind of, kind of trying, because I'm like, well, who am I? You know, like usually most consultants in big industry. You know, with within our industry, we're, we're pretty nichey, but, you know, I mean, there's, there's only a certain amount of people that do what I do. And you know, to speak to what you originally talked about with the startups, you know, what I saw is that there was a lot of great sages out there, but none of them were really working with the doctors who were starting their business, and I saw such a need, and thought, you know, this is crazy, and it's probably a horrible business decision, because I should be going after the people that actually have money and want to pay to make themselves better, versus the ones that haven't figured out how to make money yet. Lesley Logan 7:19  Right. Jill Allen 7:20  And, you know, and get going. But I saw such a need, and I also saw that there were a lot of doctors kind of holding themselves back from taking a chance on themselves because they just didn't know how to run a business. And so that's kind of where I I, you know, I kind of stepped into that space and said you know what, nobody else is here, it's a blue ocean, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna build my business in that space.Lesley Logan 7:47  Yeah, I think it's, okay, I just wanna highlight couple things. Like, first of all, like, orthodontics is its own niche, in (inaudible) on its own. But like, if you actually were to think about it, I'm sure almost every city has at least one orthodontist, you know? Oh my gosh, yeah, at least every city has one, right? And so so then. But I also would like this, like, just point out, because I think people are like, oh, I don't want to niche down. We have a lot of people who listen to this, who are are starting up their own thing, and they're like, if I niche down, then I'm like, what if I fail and all this stuff. And it's like, but you niched down even more, you're like, okay, I'm in the, I'm not just helping the medical field start an office. I'm helping people start orthodontic offices. And I I can imagine that was really scary to do that, but also that something that I think is really important. It's like, it's kind of freeing, because you're like, this is exactly what I'm talking to. I'm not trying to talk to the orthodontics who do this over here, and the one that does this over here, I'm talking to your office is new, and this is what we needed to set it up. I think that's really quite bold. And also, clearly, after all these years of doing it, a testament that it was the right thing to do is to niche down as specifically as possible.Jill Allen 8:58  Yeah, it was, and it has been, it's been a great success, and I am still the only one in our industry that just specializes in startup, you know, orthodontic practices. And, you know, as you know, when you talk about, you know, kind of taking, you know, it is scary. Number one, it's just scary to start a business and be like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna take a chance on myself. I didn't have a big company backing me, backing me. You know, that was like, hey, come in and speak for us. And, you know, kind of get your, you know, cut your teeth, you know, with with us, backing you. It was really, truly bootstrapping. Like, I've got a message, I think I can do this, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna go out there and, you know, just do the hard work to drum up business. And, you know, because I'm in Colorado, you know, originally I was like, oh, you know, I'll get started here in Colorado. And, you know, back in the day when I was getting started, we didn't even have that access, like we do now with internet.Lesley Logan 9:57  Oh, my God, that's, you know, how crazy, like, (inaudible) 19 years ago, no one was looking on Facebook for a coach.Jill Allen 10:04  No, you know (inaudible).Lesley Logan 10:05  No one was looking on Facebook for an orthodontist.Jill Allen 10:09  No, absolutely not. And so, you know, like, when I think back to, you know, I mean truly a grassroots approach, you know, and and my husband and I were young, and you know, you know, I always, you know, kind of took the approach. And I would say this for any business owner, is, you know, I would always say, okay, what's the worst that's going to happen if I, you know, if I take this and and it doesn't work, you know, I mean, like, I'm committed in my head to do, doing the work. But if it doesn't work, what's, what's the worst that's going to happen? And I would, you know, go through all these scenarios like, well, maybe bankruptcy, maybe we'll run out of money, maybe, you know what, whatever it was. And I always came back to, well, if that's the worst, I mean, like, yeah, it's scary to think about. But if that's the worst thing that that happens, I can recover from that. And I think that was really freeing for me, for when I decided to kind of move into that niche and say, well, you know, what's the worst? I'm, you know, I'm, I'm playing in an arena where the other consultants don't even have their eyes on me, so I can do what I want. And you know, nobody's coming after me as I'm building my business. And, you know, kind of starting my slow burn. Lesley Logan 11:22  Right. Because I think about, like, you know, we coach a lot of people in their Pilates business, and to start a Pilates studio back in the day, people would just start a studio with, like, one of everything, and, like, call it a day, so you can do it like, like, $25-$30,000. Now people think that they have to have like, 12 of everything, you know. And like, I think, like, all these things, and I'm like, that's a that's a huge barrier to entry, you know, and you have to be making money like, day one. I imagine, in your industry, the amount of things you have to buy for an office to function, that's quite the investment. So that is scary. So are you, like, are you finding them before they even make this investment. Are they finding you after they made the investment and they're freaking out?Jill Allen 12:05  Yeah, yeah. Actually, you know, it's kind of interesting how I find my clients. I mean, I, you know, like when I very first got started, I would just reach out to all of the colleges and be like, hey, you want somebody to, you know, to talk to the residents about running a business. And, you know, that's, that's kind of how it started, but, you know, now you know, now I, you know, I get, I get clients from, you know, from people who are just like, okay, I think I'm ready. I've been associating for a while, or I'm in school, and I just know I don't want to work for anybody else. And they're, you know, you know, kind of reaching out or whatnot. But it's, it's, it's, it's really been fun to see, you know, that that evolution of, you know, not just going after doctors, you know, in Colorado, but now I've got, you know, doctors across the United States and into Canada and so kind of all over.Lesley Logan 12:57  It's so cool. It's so cool. And I imagine, like, some things have changed and made it easier to start a business, because now we have so much technology that can, you know, like, they can just, they can buy this software, and it does a lot of the things that you had to do with other people and by hand. Can you talk about, like, you know, you've had to be it till you see it in a way to, like, go from what you were doing to like being a consultant and like believing in yourself. But I imagine you have to also get these, these doctors, to find a way to be it till they see it, to go from an associate to being a business owner, like, what are, what are the things that you see that they need to do to make that happen?Jill Allen 13:35  No, I think, I think with any business owner, I think I think number one is just being confident to stand in the space and and I truly do the work that it takes, because it is not easy to be a business owner. I don't care what what business you're doing. It takes grit. It takes hard work, and, you know, and it takes, you know, pumping yourself up, even if you don't believe it 100% yet. And I think you know, for all of us, you know, and I see this a lot with my doctors, that, you know, Superman, Superwoman syndrome, you know, where it's like, you know, I need to be doing it all, but I don't know how to do it all. And, you know, and it's just, it's a hard thing to, you know, learn to trust, to learn to, you know, move, move past, okay, you know, I don't know at all. So I can, you know, get somebody else to help me. But yet, I have a little bit of imposter syndrome, because, you know, you know, I've got to go from zero to 300,000 in my first year. I've got to go from, you know, 300,000 to 800,000 in my second year. You know what I mean. And so they're, you know, like, they've got big numbers that they have to hit, but it's all on them. So they think, and, you know, just, just getting out of their own way, if that, if that makes sense, to be like, I always tell my my clients, I'm like, you know, let's, let's just take it like, like we're eating a cookie, just, you know, one, one little bite at a time, and keep moving forward, and then just be sure to look backwards and be like, high five yourself. Like, hey, I just did that. You know, I just, I just got 20 new clients on my books that I had zero before. So high five to me, versus comparing myself to somebody out there on Facebook that got 40 in their first month, and you're like, oh, I, you know, I should have been better.Lesley Logan 15:28  Yeah, yeah. Well, because, I mean, like, you know, SEO is a real thing. Takes a while to get searchable. And then also, like, in that field, similar to the field I'm in, like, referrals go a lot, a long way. So if you're brand new, just don't have it yet. And then the hard thing is, the ideal world is that you only see orthodontist for a short period of time, and you move on like you should get the smile, yeah, and you go.Jill Allen 15:51  Yeah, two years and you're out of there. Lesley Logan 15:52  Yeah, yeah. I appreciate you talking about like, that Superman syndrome, because I do think so many people like I have to do it all. I can't afford to hire people. I can't afford this. And it's like, in a lot of cases, you can't afford not to like you like, it's you're it's, you know, I joke when I hire my first business coach, like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm taking my business to private school, and they're like, what? I'm like, well, you know, public school is great, and that's how I got my education. And I learned a ton. I learned I got to meet so many, I got to see all walks of life. And I'm very grateful for that education. But I need to move a little faster with my business. So it's going to private school, because that's where you meet the networks. Like, I didn't go to a sorority, so, so like, you know, having a consultant kind of can speed up the process, because it helps you see, like, no, you actually don't need to know exactly how the scheduling tool works. You need to hire someone who can do it, because you need to be doing the work with the clients that brings them the money.Jill Allen 16:47  Yeah, yeah. Well, and I think, you know, a lot of times when we're when we're working with clients, you know, the other thing that we're really doing is helping, you know, kind of see that big picture. Because a lot of times, as a business owner, you you don't see the big picture yet, you're still kind of in that step by step, head down. I gotta do this. I gotta reconcile my books, I gotta meet clients. I gotta, you know what I mean, and you're just in a very linear movement with your business. And I think having a coach, you know, to be able to kind of see, like, that big picture, like, hey, you're kind of getting off track, like, like, your head is down and you're working, but you may be veering a little too far in one direction, and you're kind of missing some of these other things. And so you know that, I think that's that's also the beauty of, you know, doing what we do, or having a coach involved, is somebody that can really see that bigger picture and also maybe even help you refocus. Because sometimes you do think that what you think is important is important, and it may actually not be as important as as as you may think, or you may have heard.Lesley Logan 17:56  Yeah, no, I totally, I mean, like, there's an it's an interesting thing about, like, the idea of working on the business versus working in the business, right? And, like, it's really easy. I was, like, working in the business for a few weeks recently, and, like, and it needed to be, I needed to be in the business. We had clients coming. We had a lot of things we're doing. We had events going on. So, like, I was in it, and when I was able to take a step out of being in it, and I looked around, I was like, hold on, what is this ad that's going out? Whoa, whoa. That doesn't make sense to the that is, that is, that's actually the and I got a little mad at myself, like I should have caught that sooner. And it's like, yes, I should have. But also, like, you have seasons of your business, and you, you know, as long as you're maybe what I took away is, like, you know, even if I'm doing three weeks in the business, because that's what's scheduled, there needs to be a day where I just take a little zoom out moment, what's going on, you know, to catch things. Because you you get so close to something, it becomes more important. And then there's that sunk cost fallacy that you just, like, I've worked so hard on this, it has to work. And it's like, you gotta, like, you gotta, like, detach from that as well, and you need someone to remind you.Jill Allen 19:03  Yeah, yeah, for for sure. And it is, it is hard, you know, I say the same thing to my clients. You know, we got to take time to work on the business while we're in the business. And, you know, one of the things that I really, you know, coach a lot on, is really making sure that my doctors really utilize block time scheduling. And I would suggest that for any business owner, and sometimes it feels so rigid, like, you know, I'm a personality that doesn't like to be told what to do. But yet, if I've got, you know, a whole day in front of me, man, I can find 100 things to do with that day if I have not, you know, kind of planned my time out and to have start and stop times, you know, because I can, you know, get dialed into something, and then at the end of the day, it's like, well, what did you do? Well, I worked on this one thing, but did that one thing really, really move me the way, you know, the way I wanted so I totally agree with you. Lesley Logan 19:04  I love that you brought up a lot, and I also appreciate that you're honest at like, you're not someone who likes that because, like, I so I have ADHD, my husband has ADD, like he's a rebel. As far as the tendencies go, I'm an upholder. So, like, I don't need to tell anyone I'm going to do something, but if I say I'm gonna do it, I'll do it. But I definitely had to learn early on, like, if you have three hours to work on something, you'll take three hours to work on that thing. If you have 45 minutes, you'll take 45 minutes, and if it takes longer than 45 minutes, that's okay, because now you can come back to it a different day, but you got to move on to the other things that have to get done. Like, when people are like, oh, I'm gonna, Mondays are my days to work on the business. I'm like, if you don't block out what's happening at nine, 10, 11, 12, you will get nothing done on the whole Monday because you just, you need that. Like, we need timers. We need a lot, whatever it is to, like, tell you, like, we have a kitchen timer, clock, and I'll set, like, Ookay, I'm going to do 15 minutes on this. Okay, do 20 minutes on this. And when I do that, I'm so much more focused. I don't go, oh, what's happening over on my Instagram. I wonder how that post is doing today.Jill Allen 20:57  Yeah, and it's, and I'm a very similar personality, and, like I said, I mean it, that's a hard thing, and that was a hard thing for me to learn, but it definitely makes, makes all the difference. And when, when we are so busy already, it's, you know, it's, I think it's just something we have to do as business owners, even if, even if our personalities rail against it, because mine definitely does. Lesley Logan 21:22  Yeah, yeah, no, I had, I was, I'm a little bit behind on this one project. I'm, okay, I normally don't work after like, four o'clock, which is not true. It's like, means I don't have any meetings. I can't have it after four. And it's kind of like, okay, what does tomorrow look like? What like did I wrap as much up today? Did I put the balls back in other people's courts so that I can just, you know, like, I don't want them to wait on me. And so anyways, I had this thing. I was like, okay, I'm gonna go home, and I spend an hour doing it. I'm just gonna do it. I'm gonna set a timer doing for an hour, and at 45 minutes, I'm like, we're no longer good at this. We did, we did 45 minutes of it, and we have to stop. Otherwise it's actually not gonna be better. It's gonna be a mess. So, you know, like, sometimes I think we even need to, like, put it on shorter time blocks on some of these things, because our brains can only focus for so long on one task, anyways.Jill Allen 22:10  Yeah, yeah. And, and I think just to give yourself permission that I can't force myself into creativity, or I can't force myself into, like, there are just times, my husband jokes, your squirrels are running wild. Yeah, they are, you know, but yeah, and, and I can't, I can't do anything about it, so maybe I need to go take a walk and, you know, unlock whatever it is that I'm, you know, thinking through or working through, you know. And I think just giving ourselves permission to pivot to, even within work, kind of focused things, to be able to say, I can, I can shift or switch this up, it doesn't mean I'm a failure, because I didn't get my block time in. Sometimes I just need to change it up, because that is what will actually help me move, move forward and progress through what I need to get done. Lesley Logan 22:59  Yeah, and I think it's like that permission structure we have to give ourselves the grace and like, also just awareness of, like, how do we like to work? And when do we like to work? Like, when are we most creative? When is it better to be on calls with people? And when is it like, no, please just, I cannot. I need. So I wonder like, you know, you've been doing this for so, so long. Have you ever worried, like, is there going to be enough orthodontists? Like, do you ever get like that? Or do you do, you know, because I have people who are like, they're they have an uncle or an aunt or a friend who's like that, you're going to run out of the there's not enough people for that. For example, we have flashcards. And, like, sometimes Brad and I are like, do we sell all didn't, didn't everyone buy the flashcards already? And then, like, there's a bunch more people, right? And so. And then this guy who manufacture Pilates equipment, his uncle, was like, how many of these things can you make? You know, like, so there's these doubters. Like, you're gonna run out. Do you ever get like that? And like, how do you talk yourself out of doubt like that?Jill Allen 23:55  It's a great question, you know, I guess, when I started this business originally, and when I got into, especially, specifically working with startups. You know, the one thing that I always thought was, I want to be in a business that, that there will always, it's kind of like a wedding, wedding dress, if you're selling, there's always going to be people that are getting married. And the way I look at it, within our industry, at least, there will always be new doctors coming. So I feel like, you know, there's there there is not an end in sight to, you know, unless our industry were to end, which that you know that that's not going to happen. Now is there, and could there be a cap to how big my business, you know, gets? Absolutely. And I think that is probably more of a struggle that I have had when you think about, Do I have a lifestyle business, or do I have a business that is actually going to be something that I can sell, and that's that's probably been something that I have been really working towards and thinking a lot about in, you know, especially in these last five years as you know, as, you know, when I look forward and say, okay, how much longer do I want to do this? And you know, a lifestyle business is great, you know, it gives us great money. It gives us, you know, there's all these things, but my personality says, you know, I want more legs under my business. You know, I want more verticals. And so, you know, good or bad, my personality says, well, well, what, what can I bring on, which is, you know, some of the things that I'm actively even looking at right now at purchasing another pretty big business to kind of bring under the wing of mine. But it's more, it's it's more because, you know, I'm looking at that exit strategy, which I never thought I'd be looking at an exit strategy. You know, I was like, how do I just get this business off the ground? And I want to love what I do, and I do love what I do, but it definitely, I think with any business, there comes this point where you have to make that assessment. Am I good with where it's at, and will I be good with winding it down when I'm ready, if, if there is not an opportunity to sell, or what do I need to do to start looking at those verticals to maybe, you know, kind of take it to that next level of, you know, moving and, you know, hopefully getting, you know, a bigger buyer to come in.Lesley Logan 26:19  Yeah, I thank you for sharing that, because I think, like, you know, when I got into teaching, like, and all this stuff, I was like, I'm just gonna teach, and then I'll retire, you know, and then, like, we started, I started building other businesses that went along with it, because I saw a need. And then when my husband came on full time, he's like, okay, well, what is our exit strategy? Is like, I'm sorry, why are we talking about the end? And you know, then along the way, I met one of my dear friends, Kareen Walsh, and she's been on the show, and she is, like, very big on like, before you start something, you got to know how you want to end it, because it changes what you create, how you create it. And like, if it's going to die with you, that's fine, or if you want to retire, but it continues on, or someone else runs it for you, or you sell it, you know? And there's that and that that changes the systems, it changes the client, it changes everything. And so yes, of course you can, you can, in the middle of your business, go, oh, I'm gonna think about this and make changes. It just, it just is a different route of going through it. So I love that you what a what a bold move like, that's crazy. Did you ever think you were to buy another business?Jill Allen 27:22  No, no, I, you know, I didn't. And when I started this, that was not, you know, again, that that was not, not what I had in mind. I mean, I really within our industry, kind of the, you know, when you look at the sages in our industry, they really were just lifestyle, and they'd wind them down, you know, they'd work to a certain point, and then wind him down, and, you know, and I just was like, that's, it's just not for me. That's not, not my mentality. And so, you know that that has been something I have been actively working towards, and, you know, looking at, you know, and again, like, I go back to my original you know, well, what's the worst that's going to happen? You know, I go after this big business and either it, you know, it doesn't work. You know, I always look at when I'm making business decisions, I try and really take the emotion out of it and just say, does this logically work? I don't want to be leading with my heart, even though my heart may want it. I don't want to lead with my heart. I want to lead with good business decisions. And if it's meant to be, it's going to work out, the doors are going to open. And if it's not, hey, there'll be something else that you know that will come my way. Lesley Logan 28:30  Thank you for sharing that. Like I was just listening to Zarna. Her last name, I'm it's Zarna the G, but she's a comedian, and I just learned a movie, and she was being interviewed on LinkedIn, and so she's like, she said, yes, she's like, the difference between a lot of comedians that I see and the ones that are making the money is like, I'm not attached to a joke. If I tried it three different ways, and it doesn't get the laugh that I'm expecting, it gets tossed out. Because at the end of the day, this is a business and the analytics matter. And if you are, like, no, this is a joke. This is the thing I want. She's like, there's a that's a hobbyist, that's not a business owner, and, I think, like, yes, we all need to be connected to our heart. There needs to be some love and empathy for the people that we're working with. But the end of the day, if you're wanting it to be not even just a lifestyle business even, but like, anything that's actually going to be consistent income for you, you have to take the emotions out of it and go, okay, hold on, if I like 30,000 foot view, is this working? Like, would other people say it's working like, could I, you know, all that stuff. So I think that that's a really great question. Does it logically make sense? We have a thing we're wanting to maybe potentially do. And like, my brain is like, I can do this. I can, like, figure, like, I the business makes sense to me. And then my heart is like, the time and energy and emotion this is going to take is actually I don't have it right now. Like, if I'm going to do this, then I actually need to take some time to set up the space in my life and the other businesses for me to have the emotional pull that needs to be there to push through the obstacles. So, like I can see on a logical standpoint how it works. But then there's the heart. So you have to have both, but you kind of make sure that you're not leaning into one more than the other too much, because it can keep you from seeing the forest for the trees, you know. Jill Allen 30:22  Yeah, well, and I think, I think that is one of the really, you know, tough things. But I also think it's just where, you know, we as business owners grow, you know, where, you know, the Jill Allen that I am 19 years into business, is very different than the Jill Allen I was 19 years ago when I started this business. And you know, when, when I look at these decisions, you know that I'm looking at, you know, I've got, you know, 11 employees that I support. I've got, you know, this, as you're talking about, you know, when I'm looking at bringing on this other business, I'm having to put directors and level, you know, level, you know, things in place in my own business so that I can free myself up if I'm going to run another business, you know, and it's just this totally different way of looking at it, but yet, I don't want to be disconnected from the thing that I love the most, and I absolutely love the consulting so it, it really is, you know, interesting to just kind of sit under that weight of where am I and what do I want? And, you know, I know it's going to be hard. I know, you know, like my husband and I have discussions, you know about this, because my husband also works in the business. He was able to retire from his first career. And, you know, come in and start working in our business as well. And, you know, and we have these discussions, you know, like, you know, are are you going to have the time? Do you have the bandwidth, you know, to do it? And it's, it's, it's hard to kind of sit under that weight sometimes and again, you know, take the emotion out of it. And do I have the time? Do I, you know, I've got, I've got grandbabies. Do I want to give up my time, you know, with, with my grandbabies, when I have to go and do the hard work, you know, of you know, you know, bringing it on and getting another business off the ground. But, you know, I don't know that there's a right or wrong. It's more just can, you know, am I thinking it through, and can I pivot if I need to?Lesley Logan 32:15  Yeah, I agree there's not a right or wrong. It's kind of like, does it work? Does like, I just interviewed my yoga teacher, and he's like, does it serve you? Like, he's like, he's like, most people would say that drinking at the end of the work day doesn't serve them, but some people, if it takes the edge off, so that they can, like, be with their family, what, is it, is it the right answer all the time, no, but maybe so that they're present for their family on that day. It did serve them. And so it's like, we think that things are bad or good or right or wrong, but if it you have to ask, like, is this serving me? And if the answer is yes, the hardest part is that we don't actually owe anyone the explanation. You know, if people are like, oh my god, don't you miss your grandbabies on Saturdays, it's like, that's that's them projecting. And we have to be able to go, yeah, of course I do, but I am so excited to see them on Sundays, or, actually, I see them on Thursday nights. So I think it's just like, you know, the hardest part is dealing with the other people questioning the decisions that we make, and that's really, like, where we have to, like, stand in our like, we're the only person who could decide what's what's good for us, yeah. Jill Allen 33:20  Yeah. And I think there are always going to be those people. I mean, I've, I've had it, you know, you know, oh, you just work so, you know, oh, you're traveling again, oh, you're speaking again. Oh, you know, you know, they like you said, they project that.Lesley Logan 33:33  I get all the time, you're so busy. And I was like, I mean, you I am busy, but if you think I'm tired, that's a that's different, or that I don't like it. I like what I'm doing, and it is busy, but I but I'm also like, I sleep. I work out more than you do.Jill Allen 33:53  Yeah, well, and I always say it, you know, I'd rather work 80 hours for myself than 40 hours for somebody else. So I'll take, I'll take this and the lifestyle that I lead, knowing that I absolutely love what I do, and I love the connections that I make with my doctors. And, you know, there is nothing more inspiring for me than to have, you know, you know, these long term relationships with my clients and have them be like, you know, hey, Jill, I'm a, you know, $3 million, $4 million practice now, I'm a, you know, and to think that the foundation that we built, you know, that that doctor that was so concerned about getting started or, you know, when we were looking at demographics and saying, yeah, this, this location is going to be a great location, you know, let's, let's do this. And then to have them come back and be like, I'm doing it. I'm killing it. I'm, you know, I'm loving life. I made the right decision. I mean, for me, I'm like, nothing's better.Lesley Logan 34:49  That's so cool. I love that. That is so fun, that they get to say that and you get to celebrate with them. It also just lets you be able to turn around until the next person who's worried, like this person was able to do it, and you can do it too. You know. And I think, like, as much as we don't want to look outside ourselves for things, like, sometimes we need proof that what's inside will work, you know, if we, if we work with it. This is Jill, you're so fun. And I think everything you said is applicable to, like, anything we're wanting to do, you know, like, so, thank you so much for sharing that. We're gonna take a brief break and we're gonna find out how people can find you, follow you, hear more of your amazing words. Lesley Logan 35:24  All right, Jill Allen, where do you hang out? Where can people get to hear more of this wisdom, this advice that you have?Jill Allen 35:32  Sure, sure. So if you wanna check out my website, I know probably most people are not in the orthodontic field, but if you just wanna check out the.Lesley Logan 35:40  They could be being it until they see it to be orthodontics, or maybe their kid is, or maybe. Jill Allen 35:44  Yeah, exactly, exactly. So, www.practiceresults.com is my website. I do a podcast called Hey Docs! H-E-Y-D-O-C-S with an exclamation. It comes out every Thursday, and it really is just, you know, business basics. You know, I interview anybody from bankers to real estate to just, just anybody and everybody you know, just, just trying to get good information out out there. And then, if you wanted to reach out to me, you're always welcome to, you know, I'm on Facebook, Jill Allen and Associates, and Instagram as well. So, yeah, just, you know, just any of those places you can you can find me about anywhere. Lesley Logan 36:24  I love it. I'm telling you guys, before I hit record, I was like, Jill on this. I mean, like, you could be, like, you have the best name for anything. You could be a beautiful shoe line, a gorgeous clothing line, you know, a huge law firm like, you just the sky's the limit. You're so great, and you gave us such good stuff already truly, like, I even though I understand, like, oh, I'm like, in this space, but I feel like there's so much in there that, like, we all need to remember. But for the people who are the too long and listen, but want actionable steps, what bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted steps do you have for people to be it till they see it?Jill Allen 37:02  You know, I think I'm gonna, I've said this a couple times, but I think anytime you're looking at making a, you know, a decision, just just really sit under the weight of, like, really, truly, what is the worst thing that's going to happen if you move forward with this idea or with this venture. And if you can answer, well, I can handle that, then move forward with it. You know that the beauty of it is we can pivot at any point, and just because you picked a direction doesn't mean you have to stick that direction. And I think you know the beauty of being able to change is, is also going to really just help maneuver you through as you're as you're getting your business or your idea or your vision off of the ground. And then the last thing that you know, that that I always, I've got, I've got two more things that, you know, I kind of live, live by. And sorry, I'm probably going longer than I should. But I, you know, I, I, I truly believe that we can figure out anything. And you know, I have a tattoo on my wrist that says, figure it out. And that has truly been my motto from from the beginning, like there is nothing that we can't figure out. And I guarantee you, if you'll be vulnerable enough to ask somebody for help, successful people will always give you help. They will always give you the right answers. And sometimes it's just a matter of saying, hey, you know, when I didn't understand how to do demographics, or I didn't understand how to read a lease, you know, I would be vulnerable and go out and be like, hey, can you help me understand what triple net means? And people would gladly do it, and now, because of that mentorship, I can mentor others. And so just, just be vulnerable and and don't be afraid to ask. I mean, yes, we've got to have that fake it till you make it, but, but don't, don't be afraid to be vulnerable and ask somebody that knows more. I think most people truly, intrinsically want to help, and, you know, versus want to, you know, squash you and you know, hope that you don't. And then I just, you know, you know, there's a book that that I read, and I'm going to mess up the author's name, but, you know, Brave, Not Perfect. And I believe in that. You know, we should just be brave in what we're doing. We don't need to be perfect. Just, just be brave enough to try it, you know, you'll, you'll come into your own perfection.Lesley Logan 39:23  Yeah, oh, I really, I've not heard that. I want to read that book. I like the title already, and I do agree, like, we can figure it out. And oftentimes, like, if we just actually do what your other thing is, your other point was, was like, what's the worst that's gonna happen? Oftentimes, we actually just have to address the fear that we're having, because then we have that elephant out of the room, and we can actually figure it out. Like, sometimes it's like a two punch. You gotta go, what am I? Why am I struggling so hard to like, what am I afraid of in this conversation? And then, like, go into it. So I agree so much, so applicable to anything in life, not just business. I think it's true. And also you're right, like most people, I didn't grow up like, asking questions. I was like, I should probably know that by now. I should, I should know that by now, and my husband, he'll just ask the question, and I'm like, oh, okay. And then people just answer it, and I'm like, oh yeah, well, that was so that was so easy. Jill Allen 40:14  Yeah, it's easy. Lesley Logan 40:14  That was, that was so easy, you know, because, like, they could just say no, you know, in my life, I've had like, people, like, ask for things to me. I'm like, oh, yeah. And then I'm like, oh, I actually don't have the time to take this on. It's not that I don't want to help you. I just, I'm not in a place to help you in this moment, you know. But, like, that's also not crushing people. It's just, like, an honesty is a really great thing, but it's true, most people will just be like, oh, actually, call this person or it's so and so. Oh, I learned it here. Oh, go read it here. So it's quite it's quite nice. So, Jill, you're so fabulous. And I'm sure we can learn so much about your amazing podcast if we're wanting to do the business stuff. Because, you know what? It all kind of leads itself into the same thing, like everyone has to have good customer journeys, great locations, you know, things that make sense and easy for people to find. So thank you for being you. These tips are amazing. Lesley Logan 41:01  You guys, how are you gonna use them in your life? Let Jill Allen know, let the Be It Pod know. Share this with a friend, especially anyone who's thinking to be an orthodontist we all know, or maybe you have one, and who they could be better. So share them with Jill Allen. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Lesley Logan 41:21  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. 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Lionel explores everything from the idea of a cult (including Scientology and the "American Way" of Amway rallies) to the intense "mind control" seen in sports fanatics. The conversation tackles complex relationship dynamics, examining what happens when "love or something else" turns predatory, as seen in caretaker situations and divorce. Plus: A fiery debate over "grandstanding judges" like Judge Judy, the unbelievable defiance of "sovereign citizens" who claim they are only "traveling", and whether customer service is obligated to tell you if you're talking to an AI. Lionel urges listeners to understand persuasion and change the way people think Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ready for the breaking point? In Part 2, we continue Stefan Kolesar's deep dive into the world of Amway—where all those red flags on the shelf finally came crashing down. From mounting disillusionment and classic gaslighting to the pain of leaving behind loyal friends and an imagined future, Stefan shares the raw reality of waking up, grieving, and healing after 13 years inside the culty clutches of MLM life. Plus: why nearly 99% of recruits lose money, what really chaps Stefan's ass about the so-called American Dream, and how true recovery means laughter, therapy, and building community with fellow ex-IBOs.Follow Stefan and Jenna on Instagram @ex.ibo.Also…let it be known that:The views and opinions expressed on A Little Bit Culty do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast. Any content provided by our guests, bloggers, sponsors or authors are of their opinion and are not intended to malign any religion, group, club, organization, business, individual, anyone or anything. Nobody's mad at you, just don't be a culty fuckwad.**PRE-ORDER Sarah and Nippy's newest book hereCheck out our amazing sponsorsJoin A Little Bit Culty on PatreonGet poppin' fresh ALBC SwagSupport the pod and smash this linkCheck out our cult awareness and recovery resourcesWatch Sarah's TED Talk and buy her memoir, ScarredCREDITS: Executive Producers: Sarah Edmondson & Anthony AmesProduction Partner: Citizens of SoundCo-Creator: Jess TardyAudio production: Will RetherfordProduction Coordinator: Lesli DinsmoreWriter: Sandra NomotoSocial media team: Eric Skwarzynski and Brooke KeaneTheme Song: “Cultivated” by Jon Bryant co-written with Nygel AsselinSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS:Our listeners get 10% off their first month at BetterHelp.com/culty.Use code CULTY at MonarchMoney.com in your browser for half off your first year.Go to GetSoul.com and use the code CULTY for 30% off.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

What happens when the “American Dream” turns out to be more like the “Amway Nightmare”? On this episode of A Little Bit Culty, we sit down with Stefan Kolesar to dig into his 13 years inside the OG of all MLMs—the so-called “granddaddy” that's even entangled with NXIVM history. From coffee shop pitches and overpriced toothpaste to the hidden “tools” racket that keeps recruits hooked, Stefan breaks down how the system lures people in with promises of purpose, community, and certainty—while quietly bleeding them dry. This is Part 1 of his story: how he and his wife went all in, why it felt like serving something bigger, and how much it ultimately cost to realize it was all smoke and mirrors.Follow Stefan and Jenna on Instagram @ex.ibo.Also…let it be known that:The views and opinions expressed on A Little Bit Culty do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast. Any content provided by our guests, bloggers, sponsors or authors are of their opinion and are not intended to malign any religion, group, club, organization, business, individual, anyone or anything. Nobody's mad at you, just don't be a culty fuckwad.**PRE-ORDER Sarah and Nippy's newest book hereCheck out our amazing sponsorsJoin A Little Bit Culty on PatreonGet poppin' fresh ALBC SwagSupport the pod and smash this linkCheck out our cult awareness and recovery resourcesWatch Sarah's TED Talk and buy her memoir, ScarredCREDITS: Executive Producers: Sarah Edmondson & Anthony AmesProduction Partner: Citizens of SoundCo-Creator: Jess TardyAudio production: Will RetherfordProduction Coordinator: Lesli DinsmoreWriter: Sandra NomotoSocial media team: Eric Skwarzynski and Brooke KeaneTheme Song: “Cultivated” by Jon Bryant co-written with Nygel AsselinSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS:Our listeners get 10% off their first month at BetterHelp.com/culty.Use code CULTY at MonarchMoney.com in your browser for half off your first year.Go to GetSoul.com and use the code CULTY for 30% off.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In Part 2 with Bridget Read, we explore the complexities and legal nuances that allow multi-level marketing (MLM) companies to operate as legitimate businesses, despite the similarities to illegal pyramid schemes. With historical context and references to key legal cases like Amway and the Koscot test, the script dives into how MLMs managed to skirt around laws and thrive. The discussion also ties in political influences, such as the Amway founders' connections with influential conservative movements, and the insidious spread of MLMs globally, exploiting vulnerable populations. Additionally, it touches on the intersection of self-help movements and MLMs, revealing the deep-seated coercion and manipulation involved.Don't forget to read Bridget Read's book, Little Bosses Everywhere and follow her on Instagram @little_bosses_book.Also…let it be known that:The views and opinions expressed on A Little Bit Culty do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast. Any content provided by our guests, bloggers, sponsors or authors are of their opinion and are not intended to malign any religion, group, club, organization, business, individual, anyone or anything. Nobody's mad at you, just don't be a culty fuckwad.**PRE-ORDER Sarah and Nippy's newest book hereCheck out our amazing sponsorsJoin A Little Bit Culty on PatreonGet poppin' fresh ALBC SwagSupport the pod and smash this linkCheck out our cult awareness and recovery resourcesWatch Sarah's TED TalkCREDITS: Executive Producers: Sarah Edmondson & Anthony AmesProduction Partner: Citizens of SoundCo-Creator: Jess TardyAudio production: Will RetherfordProduction Coordinator: Lesli DinsmoreWriter: Sandra NomotoSocial media team: Eric Skwarzynski and Brooke KeaneTheme Song: “Cultivated” by Jon Bryant co-written with Nygel AsseSUPPORT OUR SPONSORS:Our listeners get 10% off their first month at BetterHelp.com/culty.Use code CULTY at MonarchMoney.com in your browser for half off your first year.Go to GetSoul.com and use the code CULTY for 30% off.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

When Anna started dating Jeff he was already deep in Amway, ready to recruit her into his downline. Never at any point in their relationship was Amway not there as a constant third wheel, adding stress, debt and resentment to every day. In this episode we discuss the toxic patriarchal structure alive and well in Amway, the rampant use of faith manipulation and how fast debt accumulates when you're at the top of the pyramid.Show NotesOut of MLM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The BITE Model⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LAMLM Book Club⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠MLM Dupes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠How can you help?⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠MLM Change⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Report Fraud⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Truth in Advertising⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Report to your state Attorney General's office!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Not in the U.S.? No Problem!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support the Podcast!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Buy Me a Taco⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Discord⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Merch!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Kayla Craven⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, video editing by the indescribable⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ RK Gold⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Michelle Carpenter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2025.Music : Abstract World by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alexi Action⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Meredith was a single woman living in New York City when she was recruited into Amway. Over the years she devoted her life to the business, she noticed how patriarchal and cookie cutter the entire organization actually was. In our chat we talk about Amway Broadway Dreams, what life and business looks like after MLM and her viral giant cat.Connect with Meredith : Instagram | Facebook | LinkedIn | WebsiteConnect with Barsik : InstagramAmway Wiki - Vinny and Dayna PappalardoNYC Shelter Takes in Largest Cat They've Ever Seen2025 MLM Conference Social Media PresentationsOut of MLM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The BITE Model⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LAMLM Book Club⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠MLM Dupes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠How can you help?⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠MLM Change⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Report Fraud⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Truth in Advertising⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Report to your state Attorney General's office!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Not in the U.S.? No Problem!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support the Podcast!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Buy Me a Taco⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Discord⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Merch!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Kayla Craven⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, video editing by the indescribable⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ RK Gold⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Michelle Carpenter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2025.Music : Abstract World by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alexi Action⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Learn the truth behind Multi Level Marketing with podcast host Tim Ghiorso! He has personal experience working for Herbalife for over a year and also almost signing on to Amway after a couple recruited him. Time to take an in depth look into the world of Multi Level Marketing and discover the truth. Is it really a pyramid scheme? Or is it legit?

On this edition of The Other Side of Midnight, Lionel explores his fascination with groups and "cults," drawing on personal experiences with movements like Amway and the AME church. A significant segment highlights the music industry, particularly Jerry Wexler's legacy, his coining of "Rhythm and Blues," and work with Aretha Franklin and the Rolling Stones. Lionel voices profound concern about Artificial General Intelligence (AGI), deeming it an "existential threat" and discussing "nullifyingapps". He encourages questioning official narratives, citing inconsistencies in Anthony Bourdain's death and linking it to other suspicious "suicides". The show explores the nature of addiction as brain chemistry, with insights on painkiller and gambling recovery. Diverse discussions include experiences with door-to-door sales (Fuller Brush, Mary Kay), the unique origins of Detroit-style pizza, and the value of old media like 8-track tapes. Lionel's "logophile" love for words and his past stuttering are also discussed. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lionel explores reality TV authenticity and shares personal experiences with "cult-like" groups like Amway and the AME church. He delves into controversial diet theories (cow's milk) and his passion for language. Callers contribute unique insights, discussing Detroit pizza's origins and direct sales like Fuller Brush. The hour concludes with Lionel's anecdotes about music legends and Jerry Wexler, highlighting music's profound impact Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

For most of his young adult life, Kyle was deep in Amway, building a business while sacrificing living an authentic life. It wasn't until the facade began to chip away that he started to see the cracks in the business model, and after a shady experience followed by a betrayal, made a decision that changed his entire life. Show Notes Follow Kyle : Instagram | TikTok | Threads You're Not Crazy : Waking up from the MLM "Dream" by Kyle Humiston Kyle's Website Out of MLM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The BITE Model⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LAMLM Book Club⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠MLM Dupes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ How can you help? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠MLM Change⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Report Fraud⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Truth in Advertising⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Report to your state Attorney General's office!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Not in the U.S.? No Problem!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Support the Podcast! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Buy Me a Taco⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Discord⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Merch!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Kayla Craven⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, video editing by the indescribable⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ RK Gold⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Michelle Carpenter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2025. Music : Abstract World by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alexi Action⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

For most of his young adult life, Kyle was deep in Amway, building a business while sacrificing living an authentic life. It wasn't until the facade began to chip away that he started to see the cracks in the business model, and after a shady experience followed by a betrayal, made a decision that changed his entire life. Show Notes Follow Kyle : Instagram | TikTok | Threads You're Not Crazy : Waking up from the MLM "Dream" by Kyle Humiston Kyle's Website Out of MLM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The BITE Model⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LAMLM Book Club⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠MLM Dupes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ How can you help? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠MLM Change⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Report Fraud⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Truth in Advertising⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Report to your state Attorney General's office!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Not in the U.S.? No Problem!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Support the Podcast! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Buy Me a Taco⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Discord⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Merch!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Kayla Craven⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, video editing by the indescribable⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ RK Gold⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Michelle Carpenter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2025. Music : Abstract World by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Alexi Action⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ *Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Multi-level marketing businesses like Mary Kay, HerbaLife, and Amway are so ubiquitous, it's almost hard to imagine where they started or how deep their influence goes. In this special episode of Scamfluencers, Sarah Hagi talks with Bridget Read about her new book, Little Bosses Everywhere: How the Pyramid Scheme Shaped America. She spent years researching the origins of the “pyramid scheme,” a twist on the classic Ponzi scam, and she talks about who is most vulnerable to these massive, billion-dollar frauds, and why they've become unavoidable today. Be the first to know about Wondery's newest podcasts, curated recommendations, and more! Sign up now at https://wondery.fm/wonderynewsletterListen to Scamfluencers on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen early and ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/scamfluencers/ now.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

For decades, multi-level marketing (or MLM) companies like Amway and Mary Kay have made the promise that people could become their own bosses, earn extra income and work flexible hours under the umbrella of a globally recognized brand. But in reality, the success rates for people working in multi-level marketing “are closer to those of gamblers in a casino.” That's according to Bridget Read, author of the new book “Little Bosses Everywhere.” We talk to Read about the rise of the MLM model and why she says it helped fuel the modern conservative movement. Guests: Bridget Read, features writer, New York Magazine - author of the book “Little Bosses Everywhere: How the Pyramid Scheme Shaped America Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of the Cult Vault Podcast, Kacey and Darren Mudd delve into the world of multi-level marketing (MLM), specifically focusing on Amway. Darren shares his personal experience of being recruited into Amway during a vulnerable time in his life, highlighting the psychological tactics used by recruiters to exploit emotional states. The conversation explores the cult-like dynamics of university environments, the early warning signs of MLMs, and the brainwashing techniques employed through a structured learning curriculum. As the discussion progresses, they examine the challenges of recruitment, the illusion of success, and the growing dependency on the system, ultimately shedding light on the manipulative nature of MLMs and the emotional toll they can take on individuals. Darren's recollections of participating in the Amway Pyramid Scheme as a university student:Amway Pyramid SchemeDavid's brother joined AMWAY In the UK as an IBO, quickly became obsessed with it, and took control of the family's capital assetsAMWAY In the UKThe tools/training business (an unofficial organisation) was based in Somerset and supposedly meant to “help” people build the Amway business through mentorship and materials - this was the actual cult whereas Amway was the pyramid scheme.Amway and one of its tools/training businessesGet in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: cultvaultpodcast@gmail.com

CHROs, your role has never been more vital or more complex. AI, shifting politics, hybrid work, and evolving employee expectations, have taken the front seat in today's world of work. The future says you're no longer just managing HR, you're redefining the workplace itself. That's exactly why I launched Future of Work Leaders, a supportive global community built specifically for CHROs who are ready to move beyond traditional HR and are committed to building future-ready organizations.  In this episode, I share highlights from our very first 2025 gathering, where CHROs from some of the world's most respected brands came together to discuss the real challenges and opportunities shaping the future of work. I'm taking you behind the scenes of our inaugural Future of Work Leaders CHRO event, hosted at the Neiman Marcus Innovation Hub in Dallas. We brought together 40 CHROs from organizations like Johnson & Johnson, Northrop Grumman, Tractor Supply, Amway, and others to have deep, honest conversations about what's really driving change today. Topics like the evolving role of DEI, AI integration, hybrid work models, culture transformation, and even the political climate's impact on work. ________________ Start your day with the world's top leaders by joining thousands of others at Great Leadership on Substack. Just enter your email: ⁠⁠https://greatleadership.substack.com/

Multilevel marketing – or MLM – first became popular in the period that followed World War II. Since then, millions have tried their luck as salespeople for companies like Amway, Mary Kay, Cutco and Herbalife. MLMs offer themselves as low-cost paths to entrepreneurship, but very few of their participants are able to earn a living wage. A new book Little Bosses Everywhere by Bridget Read traces the history and culture of the MLM industry. In today's episode, Read speaks with NPR's Ayesha Rascoe about why this business model flourishes in economic uncertainty, the unregulated nature of the industry, and the blurred lines between MLMs and pyramid schemes.To listen to Book of the Day sponsor-free and support NPR's book coverage, sign up for Book of the Day+ at plus.npr.org/bookofthedayLearn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Hello! Today we have on Bridget Read, the author of a great new book called “Little Bosses Everywhere: How the Pyramid Scheme Shaped America.” (Out today!) We talk about the history of the MLM (multi-level marketing) from its alleged origins with the Yankee peddler and the frontier and the more insidious real story of eugenicists, scammers, and quackery. A lot of questions you might have about pyramid schemes and MLMs will be answered here: Why do they all do vitamins and supplements? Why did AmWay and the DeVos family have such a hold on Trump? Great book. Take a listen. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit goodbye.substack.com/subscribe

Three years ago Bridget Read reached out to me to talk about my experiences in AntiMLM Advocacy for a book she was writing at the time. Today Bridget is here to talk about that very book, Little Bosses Everywhere, which comes out May 6th! In our chat we discuss the early days of the Health and Wellness industry, MLMs, and Amway's connections to American government. Show Notes Connect with Bridget! : Instagram Grab your copy of Little Bosses Everywhere now! 2025 MLM Conference Stanford historian traces military's influence on modern American nutrition Amway & Politics (You Tube) Out of MLM⁠ ⁠The BITE Model⁠ ⁠LAMLM Book Club⁠ ⁠MLM Dupes⁠ How can you help? ⁠MLM Change⁠ ⁠Report Fraud⁠ ⁠Truth in Advertising⁠ ⁠Report to your state Attorney General's office!⁠ ⁠Not in the U.S.? No Problem!⁠ Support the Podcast! ⁠Website⁠ |⁠ Patreon⁠ |⁠ Buy Me a Taco⁠ |⁠ TikTok⁠ |⁠ Instagram⁠ |⁠ Facebook⁠ |⁠ YouTube⁠ |⁠ Discord⁠ |⁠ Merch!⁠ Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely⁠ Kayla Craven⁠, video editing by the indescribable⁠ RK Gold⁠, and⁠ Michelle Carpenter⁠ is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2025. Music : Abstract World by ⁠Alexi Action⁠ *Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Three years ago Bridget Read reached out to me to talk about my experiences in AntiMLM Advocacy for a book she was writing at the time. Today Bridget is here to talk about that very book, Little Bosses Everywhere, which comes out May 6th! In our chat we discuss the early days of the Health and Wellness industry, MLMs, and Amway's connections to American government. Show Notes Connect with Bridget! : Instagram Grab your copy of Little Bosses Everywhere now! 2025 MLM Conference Stanford historian traces military's influence on modern American nutrition Amway & Politics (You Tube) Out of MLM⁠ ⁠The BITE Model⁠ ⁠LAMLM Book Club⁠ ⁠MLM Dupes⁠ How can you help? ⁠MLM Change⁠ ⁠Report Fraud⁠ ⁠Truth in Advertising⁠ ⁠Report to your state Attorney General's office!⁠ ⁠Not in the U.S.? No Problem!⁠ Support the Podcast! ⁠Website⁠ |⁠ Patreon⁠ |⁠ Buy Me a Taco⁠ |⁠ TikTok⁠ |⁠ Instagram⁠ |⁠ Facebook⁠ |⁠ YouTube⁠ |⁠ Discord⁠ |⁠ Merch!⁠ Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely⁠ Kayla Craven⁠, video editing by the indescribable⁠ RK Gold⁠, and⁠ Michelle Carpenter⁠ is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2025. Music : Abstract World by ⁠Alexi Action⁠ *Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In today's episode, Mr. F joins us to chat about the future of health and wellness trends and the closing of the MLM Modere. Plus, Nandi returns to share her experiences using Nutrilite products during her time in Amway, and some of the more ridiculous products in their lineup.Show Notes Nutrilite WikiNSF InternationalAmway FarmsBlue Light Vitamins for Eyes (Amazon)Nutrilite ProductsOut of MLMThe BITE ModelLAMLM Book ClubMLM DupesHow can you help?MLM ChangeReport FraudTruth in AdvertisingReport to your state Attorney General's office!Not in the U.S.? No Problem!Support the Podcast!Website | Patreon | Buy Me a Taco | TikTok | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Discord | Merch!Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2025.Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action*Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In today's episode, Mr. F joins us to chat about the future of health and wellness trends and the closing of the MLM Modere. Plus, Nandi returns to share her experiences using Nutrilite products during her time in Amway, and some of the more ridiculous products in their lineup. Show Notes Nutrilite Wiki NSF International Amway Farms Blue Light Vitamins for Eyes (Amazon) Nutrilite Products Out of MLM The BITE Model LAMLM Book Club MLM Dupes How can you help? MLM Change Report Fraud Truth in Advertising Report to your state Attorney General's office! Not in the U.S.? No Problem! Support the Podcast! Website | Patreon | Buy Me a Taco | TikTok | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Discord | Merch! Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins. Audio editing is done by the lovely Kayla Craven, video editing by the indescribable RK Gold, and Michelle Carpenter is our Triple Emerald Princess of Robots. Life After MLM is owned by Roberta Blevins 2025. Music : Abstract World by Alexi Action *Some links may be affiliate links. When you purchase things from these links, I get a small commission that I use to buy us tacos. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices