Podcasts about Aaron Spelling

A couple of years ago, we did an episode about all the guest stars who appeared on "The Love Boat". For Greg's "Money in the Bank", we look at all the guest stars who appeared on Aaron Spelling's other show that featured a variety of guest stars in "Hotel". In this episode we encounter some old podcast favorites and discover some potential new ones! Take a visit to the St. Gregory's in San Francisco as we go through the entire guest list on "Hotel".

My co-host Amy Shaw is an end of life mentor and coach, she has written the best selling book "Navigating Goodbye".  She is also an in-demand speaker, and even does some art work.  Make sure You check Amy out at https://walkthered.com/  A great lady, so, what did we also talk about.National Jelly Bean day.  Entertainment from 1985. Europeans find Brazil, Guadalajara sewers explode, Chemical weapons used for 1st time.  Todays birthdays - Eddie Albert, Aaron Spelling, Charlotte Rae, Estelle Harris, Glen Campbell, Jack Nicholson, Peter Frampton, Ryanstiles.  Richar Nixon died.Intro -  God did good - Dianna Corcoran  https://www.diannacorcoran.com/ Jelly Beans song - Children love to singWe are the world - USA for AfricaGirls night out - The JuddsBirthdays - In da club - 50 Cent    http://50cent.com/Green Acres TV themeFacts of Life TV themeSeifeld TV themeRhinestone cowboy - Glen CampbellShow me the way - Peter FramptonExit - Thank you for cheating on me - Dianna Corcorancountryundergroundradio.comhttps://coolcasts.cooolmedia.com/

In this deeply moving and wide-ranging episode, Sigourney visits the LA home of actor Lindsay Price that she shares with husband Curtis Stone and their two boys, for a conversation that traverses generational trauma, Hollywood highs, inner work, and what truly matters. Lindsay, best known for roles in 90210 and Lipstick Jungle, opens up about her extraordinary family history, her journey through fame, motherhood, and how she cultivated deep resilience and inner strength through it all.Lindsay opens up about parenting with Curtis,  therapy, spirituality, and finding real love — both with her husband and within herself.She also shares the untold story of her Korean mother, who was abandoned at five and carried her baby brother on her back to survive—an experience that would shape Lindsay's identity, values, and the way she parents her own sons today. The conversation dives into intergenerational trauma, boundary setting, the evolving landscape of representation in Hollywood, and how Lindsay redefined beauty and success on her own terms.In this episode, Lindsay shares:Her mother's harrowing story of survival during the Korean War, and how she was adopted by Lindsay's paternal grandfather (the founder of World Vision)What it was like to grow up mixed race in LA, and the racism she experienced in early Hollywood rolesThe pivotal moment Aaron Spelling invited her onstage and made her a series regular on 90210Why she nearly gave up acting right before landing the lead in Lipstick Jungle (and what changed)The highs and challenges of fame, beauty standards, and being a leading ladyHow she met chef Curtis Stone and knew he was The OneThe surprising secret behind her lashes (and other Sacred Six beauty essentials)Her thoughts on Botox, beauty pressures in Hollywood, and building collagen naturallyHow she balances career and family, and the parenting tools she uses to support emotional wellbeingWhy therapy, spiritual connection, and female friendships are her non-negotiablesSacred Six:Spiritual practice (prayer, meditation, nature walks)U Beauty Super HydratorInfrared saunaDaily bathsLashify underlash segmentsCastor oil (for hair growth, lashes, brows, digestion & melasma)A special thank you to Dermalogica, our season sponsor. Use BEAUTICATE20 for 20% off at dermalogica.com.au(Valid 3 Feb – 30 April).Subscribe to the show ⁠⁠on Youtube⁠⁠ and comment to suggest guests and topicsFollow Lindsay on InstagramFollow Sigourney on ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠Tik Tok⁠⁠Follow Beauticate on ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ and Facebook.

In our Season 7 Episode 4 'Disappearing Act' recap, we shine a light on Aaron Spelling's dedication when it came to tackling tough subject matter.Find out how his TV movie "And the Band Played On" influenced this episode, and how he had to fight to get that movie made.Plus, what Jennie says about the 'Jimmy Gold' storyline, and how producers made this episode a teachable moment.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jala is joined by Cameron (Monster Dear Monster) and Tim to discuss Kindred: The Embraced, the 1996 TV series based on White Wolf's TTRPG, Vampire: The Masquerade. Referenced during the episode: * The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDXYfulsRBA) * The scream of Daedalus (https://youtu.be/DsPzUVqvFjI?si=X8fhtApJmbPJ03B8) Tune in to our guests' other appearances!: * Monster Dear Monster Ep 130: Bash on Cash or How to Endanger the Masquerade (https://www.monsterdear.monster/130) - Jala, Dave, Tim, Desirée and John's discussion of Kindred: The Embraced. * Jala-chan's Place Ep 27: Death Positivity (https://www.jalachan.place/27) - Cameron's first time on JCP! This is a fantastic topical episode with a lot of laughs. Check out the Swag Shop (https://www.teepublic.com/user/fireheartmedia) to share your love with the world! Support this show via Ko-fi! Just like Patreon, there are subscription tiers (with bonus content!) in addition to the ability to drop us a one-time donation. Every little bit helps us put out better quality content and keep the lights on, and gets a shout out in a future episode. Check out ko-fi.com/fireheartmedia (https://ko-fi.com/fireheartmedia) for the details! Don't forget to rate & review us on your podcasting platform of choice~ Jala Prendes Bluesky - @jalachan (https://bsky.app/profile/jalachan.bsky.social), Bluesky - @fireheartmedia (https://bsky.app/profile/fireheartmedia.bsky.social) The Level (https://thelevelpodcast.com/hosts/jala) Cameron Bluesky (https://bsky.app/profile/swarbie.bsky.social) Monster Dear Monster (https://www.monsterdear.monster/) Tim Bluesky (https://bsky.app/profile/formertim.bsky.social) Special Guests: Cameron and Tim.

OG bad girl Heather Locklear makes some jaw-dropping confessions about playing Amanda Woodward on Melrose Place. Who she says was the most annoying co-star, the main cast member who tried to put her down, and the actor who would visit her dressing room just to complain! Plus, all about those infamous Aaron Spelling parties, Charlie Sheen’s foot fetish and Heather’s love for ‘dirty water dogs!’ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

OG bad girl Heather Locklear makes some jaw-dropping confessions about playing Amanda Woodward on Melrose Place. Who she says was the most annoying co-star, the main cast member who tried to put her down, and the actor who would visit her dressing room just to complain! Plus, all about those infamous Aaron Spelling parties, Charlie Sheen’s foot fetish and Heather’s love for ‘dirty water dogs!’ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

OK, Hearties, here he is, Jack Wagner who plays Bill Avery on When Calls the Heart. The former soap star has played the sheriff-turned-judge character for 12 seasons on the Langley, BC-based Hallmark and Super Channel series.As viewers will see on the Saturday, Feb. 8 episode, Avery will be re-introduced to Georgie McGill, played by special guest star Melissa Gilbert whose credits date all the way back to her child star days on Little House on the Prairie. 'Bout time Avery got in on the romance on this series, says Wagner, a veteran of several soaps, including General Hospital, The Bold and The Beautiful and Santa Barbara. He also played a romantic lead on Aaron Spelling's frothy primetime serial Melrose Place.All this and the guy is a scratch golfer, the only non-professional athlete winner of a major pro-am tournament. Listen for his story about golfing with Sean Connery. We also talk about his chart-topping mid-'80s hit "All I Need," his previous encounter with Gilbert (both were on Dancing with the Stars) and his theory as to why When Calls the Heart is the perfect show for 2025.

Bienvenue dans ce nouveau Spin Off de Geek en série : Charmed Ones ! Dans cette émission rewatch de Charmed, On analyse pour vous chaque épisode de la série. Nous reviendrons sur les coulisses et nous feront un point Surnaturel. Parcourez avec nous le livre des ombres. CharmedOn commence ce premier épisode par le contexte de création de la série. Nous revenons sur Aaron Spelling, le célèbre producteur, puis la créatrice de la série Constance M Burge. on présente enfin les sœurs : Shannen Doherty, Holly Marie Comb et Alyssa Milano. Nous parlons également des influences de la série et de notre rapport avec celle-ci. Something Wicca This Way Comes Dans ce pilote, les sœurs se retrouvent après la mort de leur grand-mère. Elles doivent apprendre à vivre ensemble et communiquer en plus de la découverte de leurs pouvoirs de sorcières. Pour ajouter à l'histoire, les Sœurs Halliwell doivent gérer des hommes toxiques prêts à tout pour les faire taire. Cet épisode se concentre sur les relations de famille et la lutte contre le patriarcat. Il traite par ailleurs de l'acceptation de soi et de trouver sa voie. Qu'avez-vous pensé de ce pilote ? Œuvre citée dans le podcast :The craft d'Andrew FlemingLes ensorceleuses de Griffin DunneBeverly Hills de Darren StarGeek en série sur Ma sorcière bien aimé : https://jamesetfaye.fr/geek-en-serie-6x05-ma-sorciere-bien-aimee/Le pilote non diffusé :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWSxmEuMS5Q&list=PLKQJTB5nGjwLh3J_lS4b4YWBDDW0l9RwALa vidéo de Lizzy Brynn sur les sorcières : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwUlq1_JYxE&t=14704sLes sorcières de Salem d'Arthur MillerEnfer et contre toutes de Torikai AkaneLes Sorcières d'Eastwick de George Miller Musique ( Charmed the soundtracks)Écouter et suivre Geek en série sur : https://linktr.ee/geekenserie Retrouver Sophie : https://linktr.ee/sophiahautrice? Retrouver Faye : https://linktr.ee/fayefanel Découvrir nos autres productions : https://linktr.ee/jamesetfaye Nous soutenir grâce à :Tipeee : https://fr.tipeee.com/james-et-faye Et retrouver toute notre actu sur :Le site internet : http://jamesetfaye.fr/

Überraschung: statt irgendwelche Bastarde oder Guess von den Banausen, hört ihr heute mal wie Lee mit den zwei Experten und Ultra-Fans Chris Gebert und Christian Rietz eine der erfolgreichsten Serien der 90er besprechen. Und ob die männliche Hörerschaft das hier konsumiert, wird exakt dasselbe sein wie damals bei der Serie - keiner gibt es zu, aber alle ziehen es sich heimlich rein. Dreht die Farbsättigung auf 12 und viel Spaß!

This is Still Here Hollywood. I'm Steve Kmetko. Join me with today's guest, Isaac from The Love Boat, Ted Lange.Back in the day, Saturday night television was a huge opportunity for the three networks to create “family TV”. And for a decade, starting in the late 70's, there was a show that besides topping the ratings, was family friendly, and also became a huge promotion for a sailing vacations. Let's just call it the pre-precursor to today's “Below Deck”.  Show CreditsHost/Producer: Steve KmetkoAll things technical: Justin ZangerleExecutive Producer: Jim LichtensteinMusic by: Brian SanyshynTranscription: Mushtaq Hussain https://stillherehollywood.comhttp://patreon.com/stillherehollywoodSuggest Guests at: stillherehollywood@gmail.comAdvertise on Still Here Hollywood: jim@stillherenetwork.comPublicist: Maggie Perlich: maggie@numbertwelvemarketing.com

Michael Dietz joins OMG to talk about playing Kelly's almost boyfriend, Medical Resident Dr. Greg!Find out who also auditioned to play Kelly Taylor's doctor, and what Michael said in Aaron Spelling's office that landed him the gig that same day! Plus, find out the random connection between Michael's soap opera career and Kelly's manager Mr. Showbiz!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's Melrose Place, so get ready for tears, the explosions, and the receipts . . . and that's just behind the scenes! Producer Chip Hayes joins Courtney, Laura, and Daphne for a fascinating behind-the-scenes look at Melrose Place, including the tense moments before the famous boat explosion, the parallels with Dynasty, searching for their "Alexis," Aaron Spelling's rules for the actors and proof that Laura was not swimming in "dirty water" during her hot springs scene. Chip has the receipts! So dive in - the water is fine! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's Melrose Place, so get ready for tears, the explosions, and the receipts . . . and that's just behind the scenes! Producer Chip Hayes joins Courtney, Laura, and Daphne for a fascinating behind-the-scenes look at Melrose Place, including the tense moments before the famous boat explosion, the parallels with Dynasty, searching for their "Alexis," Aaron Spelling's rules for the actors and proof that Laura was not swimming in "dirty water" during her hot springs scene. Chip has the receipts! So dive in - the water is fine! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Laura Leighton's Melrose Place rewatch Podcast is:STILL THE PLACEhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/still-the-place/id1754955354  Show CreditsHost/Producer: Steve KmetkoAll things technical: Justin ZangerleExecutive Producer: Jim LichtensteinMusic by: Brian SanyshynTranscription: Mushtaq Hussain https://stillherehollywood.comhttp://patreon.com/stillherehollywoodSuggest Guests at: stillherehollywood@gmail.comAdvertise on Still Here Hollywood: jim@stillherenetwork.comPublicist: Maggie Perlich: maggie@numbertwelvemarketing.com

Watch the video version of this podcast here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQkI9jGXbjs MORE FULL FILM COURAGE INTERVIEWS https://tinyurl.com/mr42eye2 BUY THE BOOK - STORY LINE: Finding Gold In Your Life Story http://amzn.to/2jDsroM BUY THE BOOK - CHANGE YOUR STORY, CHANGE YOUR LIFE: A Path to Success http://amzn.to/2ajP9e0 BUY THE BOOK - TV WRITING TOOL KIT - 2nd Edition: How To Write A Script That Sells https://amzn.to/3YJh7IQ International speaker Jen Grisanti is an acclaimed Story/Career Consultant at Jen Grisanti Inc., a 13-year Writing Instructor for Writers on the Verge at NBC, and a former 12-year studio executive, including VP of Current Programming at CBS/Paramount. Jen is the author of three books, Story Line: Finding Gold in Your Life Story, TV Writing Tool Kit: How To Write a Script That Sells, Change Your Story, Change Your Life: A Path To Your Success. Grisanti started her career in 1992 as an assistant to Aaron Spelling. He served as her mentor for 12 years. She quickly climbed the ranks and eventually ran Current Programs at Spelling Television Inc., covering all Spelling's shows, including Beverly Hills, 90210, Melrose Place, and Charmed. In 2004, Grisanti was promoted to Vice President of Current Programs at CBS/Paramount, where she covered numerous shows, including Medium, Numbers, NCIS, 4400, and Girlfriends. In January 2008, Grisanti launched Jen Grisanti Inc., a highly successful consulting firm dedicated to helping talented writers break into the industry. Drawing on her experience as a studio executive, where she gave daily notes to executive producers/showrunners, Grisanti guides writers to shape their material, write from their emotional truth, hone their pitches, and focus their careers. MORE VIDEOS WITH JEN GRISANTI http://bit.ly/2aPRWvW CONNECT WITH JEN GRISANTI http://www.jengrisanti.com https://www.facebook.com/jengrisanticonsultancyinc https://www.instagram.com/jengrisanti https://twitter.com/jengrisanti https://www.youtube.com/user/jengrisanticonsult VIEWERS ALSO WATCHED Screenwriting: Finding Gold In Your Life Story - https://youtu.be/pEL4QWOzk78 Story Maps: How To Write A GREAT Screenplay - https://youtu.be/pHBHjlb4y84 Why Most Scripts Are Rejected After The First 3 Pages - https://youtu.be/dEevGQ8Va_Y Beginners Guide To Story Development: Why Scripts Are Rejected - https://youtu.be/EUd5hZL62MA Pro Writer On The Art And Craft Of Screenwriting - https://youtu.be/PEvvyaZBrJI CONNECT WITH FILM COURAGE http://www.FilmCourage.com http://twitter.com/#!/FilmCourage SUBSCRIBE TO THE FILM COURAGE YOUTUBE CHANNEL http://bit.ly/18DPN37 SUPPORT FILM COURAGE BY BECOMING A MEMBER https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs8o1mdWAfefJkdBg632_tg/join SUPPORT FILM COURAGE BY BECOMING A PATRON https://www.patreon.com/filmcourage (Affiliates) ►WE USE THIS CAMERA (B&H) – https://buff.ly/3rWqrra ►WE USE THIS SOUND RECORDER (AMAZON) – http://amzn.to/2tbFlM9 Stuff we use: LENS - Most people ask us what camera we use, no one ever asks about the lens which filmmakers always tell us is more important. This lens was a big investment for us and one we wish we could have made sooner. Started using this lens at the end of 2013 - http://amzn.to/2tbtmOq AUDIO Rode VideoMic Pro - The Rode mic helps us capture our backup audio. It also helps us sync up our audio in post https://amzn.to/425k5rG Audio Recorder - If we had to do it all over again, this is probably the first item we would have bought - https://amzn.to/3WEuz0k LIGHTS - Although we like to use as much natural light as we can, we often enhance the lighting with this small portable light. We have two of them and they have saved us a number of times - http://amzn.to/2u5UnHv *Disclaimer: This video and description contains affiliate links, which means that if you click on one of the product links, we'll receive a small commission. This helps support the channel and allows us to continue to make videos like this. Thank you for your support!

Derek Champagne, CEO of The Artist Evolution, chats with tv executive and consultant, Jen Grisanti, about being the active hero in your own story.International speaker Jen Grisanti is an acclaimed Story/Career Consultant at Jen Grisanti Consultancy, Inc. Grisanti is also a Writing Instructor for Writers on the Verge at NBC, a former studio executive, a blogger for The Huffington Post and author of Story Line: Finding Gold In Your Life Story, TV Writing Tool Kit: How To Write a Script That Sells, and her upcoming book, Change Your Story, Change Your Life.Twenty-Three years ago, Grisanti started her career as an assistant to Aaron Spelling, who served as her mentor for 12 years. She quickly climbed the ranks and eventually ran Current Programs at Spelling Television Inc., covering all of Spelling's shows including Beverly Hills, 90210, Melrose Place and Charmed. In 2004, Grisanti was promoted to Vice President of Current Programs at CBS/Paramount where she covered numerous shows including Medium, Numbers, NCIS, 4400 and Girlfriends.In January 2008, Grisanti launched Jen Grisanti Consultancy, Inc., a highly successful consulting firm dedicated to helping talented writers break into the industry. Drawing on her years of experience as a studio executive where she gave daily notes to executive producers/showrunners, Grisanti personally guides writers to shape their material, hone their pitches and focus their careers. Since launching her consulting firm, Grisanti worked with over 800 writers specializing in television, features and novels. Due to her guidance, seventy-five of her clients have staffed as writers on television shows, forty have sold pilots, and five of those pilots have gone to series. Learn more at www.jengrisanti.com

As the current year draws to a close, a sense of optimism builds inside all of us- but only after we take a personal inventory of the year before. We evaluate how we spent our time, what our "purpose" is, and who we spent that time with. Most times, it reinvigorates our sense of curiosity to better understand ourselves and the world around us. Enter my next guest and FANTASTIC conversation. Randy Spelling is a former actor and current life coach He is one-third of the triumvirate that hosts the fantastic podcast "Old-ish" (alongside Sharna Burgess and Brian Austin Green.) A show where age old questions meet new age answers. Honored to call Randy a friend and have this fantastic conversation!www.randyspelling.comwww.caughtonthemike.com

Handsome Matt Fielding, aka Doug Savant, is finally on the pod!Get ready for some laughs and great stories! Doug joins Daphne, Courtney, and real-life squeeze Laura for an inside look at his time on MP, including his decision to keep his sexual orientation private while on the show despite Darren Star and Aaron Spelling telling him to address it, the scoop on his audition story, thoughts on his exit from the show, and the time he was in the hospital and a nurse wouldn't leave his side while Laura was in the room . . .  just in case she was evil like her character Sydney!!As if that's not enough, Doug also shares about his time on Desperate Housewives, answers fan questions, and receives a truly surprising gift from the ladies! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Handsome Matt Fielding, aka Doug Savant, is finally on the pod!Get ready for some laughs and great stories! Doug joins Daphne, Courtney, and real-life squeeze Laura for an inside look at his time on MP, including his decision to keep his sexual orientation private while on the show despite Darren Star and Aaron Spelling telling him to address it, the scoop on his audition story, thoughts on his exit from the show, and the time he was in the hospital and a nurse wouldn't leave his side while Laura was in the room . . .  just in case she was evil like her character Sydney!!As if that's not enough, Doug also shares about his time on Desperate Housewives, answers fan questions, and receives a truly surprising gift from the ladies! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Season 6 Episode 20 flew by for all the wrong reasons.How did producers sneak this episode in when Aaron Spelling was notoriously afraid of flying?From the 'Indecent Proposal' storyline, to the Yanni reference, this was a very 90s centric episode, but it didn't quite 'land.'And, don't miss your monthly potty PSA from our resident germaphobe!!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

País Estados Unidos Dirección Robert D. Webb Guion Joseph Petracca, Aaron Spelling. Novela: Louis L'Amour Reparto Música David Buttolph Fotografía John F. Seitz Sinopsis Western producido y escrito por Aaron Spelling, que lo adaptó de una novela de Louis L'Amour. Enfrentamiento entre rancheros y madereros por el uso de unas tierras. Los primeros tratan de evitar que los segundos talen los árboles, porque ello supone que, durante la época de lluvias, el lodo acabe por anegar sus tierras. En medio del conflicto surge la difícil relación amorosa entre un hombre y una mujer de bandos distintos.

‘The Princess Diaries', ‘Romy & Michelle', ‘10 Things I Hate About You', ‘Clueless'… Whenever I think my work doesn't mean anything to anyone at any time and never will… somebody says to me, ‘Those movies -- I watched them and I showed them to my kid.” -- Casting Director Marcia RossIn Part Two of our conversation with Casting Director Marcia Ross, Susan and Sharon discuss the changing business of Hollywood, favorite finds, shrinking budgets, and going from in-person auditions -- to auditioning on tape -- to just clicking on a link…      Casting Director Marcia Ross has been instrumental in putting together amazing ensembles for classic films and TV shows since 1983. Susan and Sharon sit down this week with Ms. Ross to go behind the scenes and discover exactly how today's “unknown” turns into tomorrow's “big discovery” -- and who makes it happen. Among the young actors Marcia is credited with discovering: Anne Hathaway, Heath Ledger, Paul Rudd, Rachel McAdams, Jennifer Garner and Amy Poehler.THE CONVERSATIONTo cast the pilot of Models Inc. , they auditioned “one thousand women” -- including Carrie Anne Moss!Angelina Jolie didn't get cast -- because she “didn't have the right look” according to Aaron Spelling.8TL's own producer Melissa Roth worked on Models Inc, too -- as a camera assistant!Casting Princess Diaries: Anne Hathaway was perfect because “you had to believe she could be both things. (a real person and a princess)”Chris Pine in Princess Diaries 2: “He read for me and I was like, “Can you come back this afternoon?” He was an unknown, but within a day he had the part.The challenge of casting sequels -- how are you gonna get everyone back?BURNING BRIDGES: How do you tell your star Jeff Bridges that the actress he wants you to cast… just isn't right?Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion -- Lisa Kudrow and Mira Sorvino got the lead roles … but SNL's Will Ferrel and Chris Kattan ended up on the cutting room floor.“It's a hard business. And it's hard to have longevity because people always want the next new thing.”So, join Susan and Sharon -- and Marcia -- as they talk Jean Smart, Jeremy Renner, Lizzie McGuire, Julie Andrews, Johnny Depp, Scarecrow & Mrs. King -- and watching The Flintstones Friday nights at 7:30!AUDIO-OGRAPHYFind out more about Marcia Ross and Jeff Kaufman's documentary film work at FloatingWorldPictures.com.To see Nasrin, go to NasrinFilm.comWatch the Terrence McNally documentary Every Act of Life on YouTube, Amazon, or Apple.or search on Roku.Need some 80s TV Ladies merch?!? Check out our GRAND OPENING SALE.CONNECTVisit 80sTVLadies.com for transcripts and more.Sign up for the 80s TV Ladies mailing list.Check out Instagram/80sTVLadies.Support us and get ad-free episodes on PATREON.Find more cool podcasts at our host sight, Weirding Way Media.BREAKING NEWSWe just won Best TV & Film podcast at the People's Choice Podcast Awards!Thank you to all who voted and to all our listeners and guests.VOTERegistration deadlines are coming up! Register or Check your US Election Registration at Vote.orgHappy 100th Birthday to President Jimmy Carter! Get Susan's new play about Carter's White House in 1979: Confidence (and the Speech) at Broadway Licensing.

This week on the pod we welcome back our friend Bill Kenney to discuss the CV of Mr. Danny DeVito. Transcript:Track 2:[0:41] Thank you, Doug DeNance. My name falls off a cliff. And now, J.D. Welcome to the SNL Hall of Fame podcast. My name is J.D., and it is great to be here with you all. I am just fumbling with my keys to get into the Hall of Fame. While I'm doing that, I will wipe my feet. Do the same would you come on in as we prepare to go to a conversation with our friend thomas senna and our equally good friend bill kenny is back to join us and they are here to discuss danny devito now before we go any further i want to just make sure everyone is aware of our new you email address. It is the SNL hall of fame at gmail.com. That's correct. I chose the maximum number of letters I could choose for the prefix, the SNL hall of fame at gmail.com.Track 2:[1:44] It might seem trivial to you, but, uh, we love to hear from you. So send us those emails, review the pod and for heaven's sake listen to the snl water cooler it's our brand new show on the snl hall of fame and uh we have sherry fesco and joe gannon joining me once a week to discuss the week that was in the snl hall of fame and we touch upon the current episode of snl as well where we identify the Hall of Shame and the Hall of Fame moments of that particular episode. I am out of breath because I have been racing down the hall to catch up with our friend Matt Ardill, and we should probably do that.Track 3:[2:33] So I'm going to make a confession here. Even though the show has been on for coming up to 20 seasons, and this gentleman has been on most of those seasons, I haven't seen a single flippin' episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. And this week we're talking about one of its actors and somebody who's got a long resume dating back to Taxi, at least. I'm sure there's more before that. But let's go to our friend Matt Ardill and learn some more about this week's nominee, Denny DeVito. Hey, Denny. Thanks. I am shocked. i genuinely you can't jump in with the nightmare nightmare episode that would just be too much of a system shock but if you ever have the chance it's it's it is dark but it is funny so i highly recommend always sunny um but yeah so i'm looking forward danny is a great a great actor um, 4'10", born November 17th, 1944, who shares the birthday with Lorne Michaels. So same birthday.Track 3:[3:49] So he's born in Neptune, New Jersey, grew up in a family of five, and was raised in Ashbury Park, New Jersey. He would frequently eat at Jersey Mike's, which he grew up just down the street from the first location, which is why in 2022, he became the spokesperson for the subway chain, Jersey Mike's. He just loved it. And Danny is a person who follows his passions.Track 3:[4:17] He was sent to boarding school to keep him out of trouble. He graduated in 1962 and then took a job at his older sister's beautician salon. She paid for him to get his beautician certification, which led to him getting a certificate in makeup at the American Academy of Dramatic Arts. But to get that, the teacher said he had to sign up because she couldn't just teach him on the side. He had to be a student of the American Academy of Dramatic Arts, so he signed up and found his passion for acting after only a single semester at the school. Cool. Wildly enough, one of his sister's partners at the hair salon was a relative of a future colleague of his, Jack Nicholson, with whom he performed on One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. That's right.Track 3:[5:23] This eventually became a prolific career, including 154 acting credits, 49 producer credits, 23 director credits, 16 soundtrack credits and four writing credits. I mean, how can we forget his performance of Troll Toll in the Dayman musical on Always Sunny? I mean, it's the weirdest one of his ever, his experience, his performances.Track 3:[5:52] But I do have to say, I was shocked to also see that he performed Put Down the Ducky on the Sesame Street Put Down the Ducky TV movie. His range is truly epic in scope um now after starting as an actor he actually shared a small apartment with michael douglas and they remain friends to this day um during his time uh in new york he actually met his now estranged wife rhea perlman well in the off-broadway play the shrinking bride uh they then went on to get a grant from the american film institute together and write the and produce minestrone a short film in 1975 which screened at con and has.Track 3:[6:42] Since been translated into five languages um he was the original casting choice for mario in the 1993 super mario's movie uh dropping out i'm guessing after seeing the script uh condemning bob hoskins to infamy um now he this is another one of those like i i'm kind of glad they didn't cast make this choice uh because i don't think it would have worked but he was almost george costanza what he almost he was in consideration for the role of george costanza it wouldn't have worked it would it's it's the wrong energy but it would have been wild to see Now he has been nominated for Best Picture for Aaron Brockovich.Track 3:[7:30] Along with NOMS for Batman Returns, American Comedy Writing Awards, Berlin International Film Festival Awards, Blockbuster Entertainment Awards, BAFTAs, Cable A's, Emmys.Track 3:[7:43] And more. He is so award-nominated, it's hard to keep track. But one of his earliest big wins was a 1981 Emmy for Taxi, which revolved around buying a pair of pants. About how he was so short and so round, he had to go to the Husky Boys section to get pants as an adult. And that was the plot in a Taxi episode that won him his first Emmy. Um, he commits, uh, like during his time as the penguin in those scenes where you see him like noshing on raw fish, that is actual raw fish that he is just tearing into, uh, not fake fish. Um, he is very famous, uh, on social media for his troll foot pictures where he will travel around the world and just take pictures of his great old big troll feet. Um, and in fact own, he is such a fan of Lemoncello. He has actually opened his own Lemoncello, uh, manufacturing plant simply named Lemoncello by Danny DeVito. Well, short and sweet, I suppose you might say.Track 2:[9:03] Of course you might not say as well. There's both options on the table. So let's get right to thomas and our friend bill kenny as they continue to talk about danny devito take it away thomas.Track 4:[9:48] Alright, JD and Matt, thank you so much for that. Hello and welcome to the conversation portion of this episode of the SNL Hall of Fame. Season 6 and we are rolling in this season. It's been a really good one. Talking about lots of great hosts, cast members, musical guests, etc.Track 4:[10:07] Today we're dipping into the host category. A six-timer? If you, well, it depends. I'll ask Bill about this. But yeah, so there's maybe a little caveat to this, but he's at least a five-timer. We consider him a six-timer. It's Danny DeVito today on the SNL Hall of Fame. And with that, of course, Bill Kenney, just amazing SNL knowledge with the Saturday Night Network, a man who mingles with the stars, with Dan Aykroyd and Jim Belushi. So he, yeah, he's he. But he kind of stepped down in weight class a little bit, and he's appearing with me here on the SNL Hall of Fame. Bill, thanks for joining me. Thomas, thank you for having me back. This is always such a good time. Listen, I mean, you're a celebrity in your own right, so let's not bury the lead here.Track 4:[11:01] Dan Aykroyd is fine, but the conversation is going to be great with this. Always a good time to talk to you. I appreciate that, man. So you've done a host before, Martin Short. We had such a blast with that Marty Short episode. And I know you're a Danny DeVito fan, so I had to ask you. He's one of the names that I threw out, and you jumped on Danny right away. So before we get started in that, I'm curious, what's going on over at the Saturday Night Network? We just started celebrating Season 50 of Saturday Night Live, a couple episodes into it. What's going on there as far as continuing the celebration here? Yeah, if you haven't checked us out in a while, please do so.Track 4:[11:44] During show weeks, we have a lot of great content from our Hot Take show, which is right after SNL on Saturday night at 1.10 a.m. We also have our roundtables, which dive deeper into the sketches. And then By the Numbers is every Wednesday, and we talk about the statistics, which is where we made our bones at the beginning of our podcast so and then of course there's lots of other content we do in off weeks uh during the summer we just uh did the greatest host countdown of all time thomas you joined us for one of the last episodes of that we had a lot of fun uh breaking that down and uh i think that's where the danny devito uh stuff started right because he was on the very first episode of the host countdown that we did and uh we all agreed, that it was way too low, and I can't wait to talk about that as well.Track 4:[12:36] Yeah, 100%. And I heard how much love you had for Danny and his hosting gigs and stuff. So I had to kind of like throw his name out there for you in the off season. So I love the stuff that you do in the off weeks in the off season. That's where all of us like dorks can roll up our sleeves and get get into like brass tacks about SNL. So I love that you guys do different drafts. There's different like neat concept shows. That's when the dorks thrive, Bill.Track 4:[13:03] Oh, without a doubt. That's when we have, we've had a lot of great stuff like SNL stories, which we talked to alumni, you kind of referenced Dan Aykroyd. We did a Blues Brothers, we went to a Blues Brothers convention, James Stevens and I, another podcaster, and we got to talk to Jim Belushi and Dan Aykroyd there. So that was a lot of fun. But we've talked to Mary Gross and Gary Kroger, a whole host of people who have had some association with SNL through the years. So that's always a lot of fun, too. So check that out as well. And then, of course, everything you need to know about SNL. And this will be the final plug, Thomas. We don't want to bog it down too much. But John and James have been doing that every week. And it's kind of these 15-minute mini episodes of kind of a starter's guide to SNL. Starting with season one going through. So if you don't have the time, like Thomas and I do, to sit through 30 episodes of SNL in a week, you can go watch this for 15 minutes and kind of satiate your thirst for it.Track 4:[14:09] Now, recently, John was a guest of mine and Deremy's on our other podcast, Pop Culture 5. We did six essential SNL sketches. And I was telling John, like, the everything you need to know about SNL. Those videos are some of my favorite content on YouTube. Just in general. Like, the editing's immaculate. The content is great. It looks great. It sounds great. It's just, like, that's one of my favorite things on YouTube that I look forward to. Yeah, without a doubt. And even people like us who know so much about SNL, it's still good to go back and be able to watch these and remember, what season was that in? Oh, yeah, that's right. So it kind of gives you, you know, jumpstart your brain as far as SNL. If you're not doing it already, make sure to check out all the great content they have over at the Saturday Night Network. Today, we're going to get into Danny DeVito as a host. So a little brief background, Danny did a lot of acting throughout the 70s, mostly playing bit parts. He was in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, a decent amount of screen time. He basically said nothing in that movie, but he was just kind of there smiling and grinning while Jack Nicholson did his thing. He got his big break, though, starring in Taxi from 1978 to 1983. Bill, how did you become acquainted with the peculiar and unique person that is Danny DeVito?Track 4:[15:37] Definitely Taxi. And there was a different time back then where we would watch more mature shows like Taxi as kids because we only had three channels. But it was on this killer Tuesday night ABC lineup with Happy Days and Laverna Shirley and shows like that. And it was, you know, if you've liked Cheers, it's kind of the Cheers that people have forgotten about. It was set in this cab company in New York. And Danny played this very kind of volatile role, you know, scoundrel with a heart of gold as the years went on and you got to see. But that was where I met him. And it's still a great show. It's something I like to go back and watch every now and then. And it still holds up after all these years. It's a stellar ensemble. Yeah, it's one that I keep meaning to go back and try to rewatch. I used to catch episodes every now and then on Nick at Night.Track 4:[16:32] And then maybe MASH would come on or something. I'd hear the music and then that was time for me to go to sleep. But I would catch Taxi sometimes on Nick at Night. Probably for me, watching Twins, Throw Mama from the Train, kind of things of that nature. I really started appreciating Danny and his quirks. And he had this presence about him that far exceeded his stature, you know what I'm saying? So the way he was able to command the screen, it was almost like a Joe Pesci in a way, even though Danny maybe was less menacing, but he was still that kind of intense guy who would just take over the screen, I think, Bill. Yeah, I wonder how people view him, younger people view him today, because, I mean, he was a legitimate movie star. You mentioned some of them. I mean, from starting around 84, 85, he's in a hit almost every year for the next 10 years. You know, Romancing the Stone, War of the Roses, gets into the 90s and he's in Hoffa and Batman Returns, gets shorty. So there's always something going on with Danny. He compensates his short stature with just a commanding performance, no matter what he's in.Track 4:[17:45] Well, I'm really happy. I think a lot of the younger folks still watch It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Philadelphia so they really like enjoy Danny DeVito from that so it's funny to talk to like my niece is a big uh it's always sunny fan and so it's funny I tell her like have you seen Danny in this have you watched this have you seen his SNL hosting gigs like you need to go check out Danny like pre it's always sunny but I'm glad that the younger generation is getting a little taste uh of DeVito on it's always sunny is that something that you've checked out Bill oh my One of my favorite shows outside of SNL. Yeah, still. I mean, that's something that if I just need to have something on in the background, I'm going to Always Sunny and throwing on an episode. Because it's been on for 18 years at this point, almost 19 years. Yeah. And it still holds up. I mean, it really, it's the dirtier friends or Seinfeld or however you want to look at it. people with no soul who just kind of found each other in this crazy world and don't give a shit what they do to anybody else. And Danny is a huge part of that. He probably saved that show because he wasn't in the first season of that and was able to kind of boost it up.Track 4:[18:57] Make it what it is. Yeah, absolutely. It definitely wouldn't be around without Danny. I think the other core guys like Rob and Glenn and Charlie and them, Caitlin, would tell you that Danny probably saved the show. So I'm really just happy that the younger folks, some of whom probably shouldn't be watching It's Always Sunny, but be that as it may, that they get to appreciate Danny. We talked about, obviously, some of his trademarks, like his stature, his offbeat personality. One thing, especially watching these episodes, and it relates back to something that I've noticed or talked about with other hosts who I consider great, is that Danny's a really good actor.Track 4:[19:41] And that serves him well in committing to these sketches. We just talked about on the S&N host countdown and on the SNL Hall of Fame, Adam Driver, who's a good actor and that serves him well. Danny, you know, I think, like I said, his stature, his kind of weird personality sometimes, I think that kind of overshadows that he's a good actor, Bill, and it serves him well in these sketches.Track 4:[20:07] Matches. Yeah, and it's very interesting to see when he came into SNL. You know, you can say a lot about the Ebersole years that didn't work. I think one of the things that definitely did work is that he found hosts that were kind of outside the box. There was no reason in 1982 to bring a Danny DeVito into the show. Now, this predates most of his movies. He is on Taxi, of course, but he's the the third or fourth or fifth lead on that show but ebersole saw something in him and decided to bring him in uh i mean it's one of those seasons in season seven where we get so many unique we get the smothers brothers we get olivia newton john right after this which is kind of outside of uh normal thinking as well uh and so he just kind of fits into this one of the wackiest seasons of snl we've ever had. And he just, he meshes immediately with the people he's working with. They feel comfortable putting him in recurring sketches immediately and some original pieces as well. So right out of the gate, we get to see what Dan does.Track 4:[21:14] Yeah, so he first appeared season seven toward the end, episode 19. That was in May of 1982.Track 4:[21:21] Interesting timing. And I think it's kind of funny. I almost wonder if Ebersole and NBC brought him on as like maybe to brag on ABC. A little bit, a little bit of a friendly competition there because Taxi had just been canceled, Bill. And that was what his monologue was all about, Taxi having been canceled by ABC. This afternoon, my little immigrant Italian mother, she gave me this letter. She said to me, Danny, I want you to read this on the national TV.Track 4:[22:03] Son, you have been besmirched by men so shallow that they do not know the depths to which their deeds have taken them.Track 4:[22:16] And funny enough, about a month after this aired, NBC picked up Taxi for one final season. So that's the funny side of it. But I find this monologue fascinating because you know i can't think of another monologue in the history of the show that's like this it's very very unique so he as you say you know they're kind of giving a swan song to to taxi and he brings out the entire cast now we've we've seen cameos when when tv stars have hosted before uh the most recent i can think of is like steve carell bringing in and Jenna Fisher, and a couple other people from the office, but to have the entire cast of a show from another network.Track 4:[23:01] Come on to the stage to kind of take their final bow. And it's the only time in the history of the show that we see Judd Hirsch, Mary Lou Henner, Christopher Lloyd. These are big names. These are people who go on to do a lot of different things, and they never appear on SNL at any other point. So that is very, very intriguing to me, that they gave Danny the freedom to do this and find a way to make this one of the most unique monologues in the history of the show. Yeah, it totally is. And just seeing who they would become. People still know Judd Hirsch. He just recently appeared in The Fablemans not too long ago. Christopher Lloyd, obviously, who would go on to do Back to the Future. Who framed Roger Rabbit after that? Tony Danza. So Tony Danza did host SNL. Tony Danza does come back and host, yeah. A couple times.Track 4:[23:52] Yeah yeah but he's really the only one he's the only one andy kaufman comes out uh in his neck brace he's still in the middle of the whole wrestling jerry lawler thing so he has to come out sporting the neck brace kind of keep kayfabe alive uh there but this was neat i love danny's calling out like abc the american broadcasting corporation is the one who canceled us and i'm sure nbc had i if they didn't already had signed the contracts they had ideas probably of like, we're bringing in Taxi into the family, so let's do this. No, I agree. It was just so cool to see all those people on stage. Mary Lou Henner. Yeah. Yeah, it was just so cool to see all those people on stage. I enjoyed it. It was simple, but I enjoyed getting to know Danny and seeing the rest of the cast of Taxi. Yeah, exactly. And it was such a great segue into the next piece where you get to see this pre-tape.Track 4:[24:45] With the opening credits to Taxi, basically, until it cuts to danny getting out of the taxi looking at the building at the abc building and kind of mulling in his mind now this is not something after 9-11 we would ever see again i'm sure right but at the time it was very very humorous and still very funny if you if you can look at it in the frame of where it's at and uh he's mulling what he should do and then decides to blow up abc and drives away like are you serious we're we're on a network television show granted at 11 30 at night and we have the star of another network show blowing up that network like absolutely bananas yeah yeah yeah i doubt that would happen today for for a few reasons i mean of course you mentioned the obvious one but yeah network on network crime doesn't seem to be happening much more they seem to be more buddies you had the uh the late night hosts on cbs nbc and abc doing a whole podcast together during during exactly yeah that wouldn't happen yeah yeah that's when there was competition and rivalry no that was great and we gave he they gave the people what they wanted he's coming from taxi he's familiar with taxi so right away let's do a test so let's do something taxi related that's what we saw with adam driver and first thing, in his first episode, he was Kylo Ren, doing a sketch as Kylo Ren. So we're kind of giving the people what we want, Bill. You like that as a viewer?Track 4:[26:15] Sure, absolutely. And to put yourself in the mindset of a 1982 viewer, you know, the.Track 4:[26:22] Network shows where you were attached to them in a way, I think that is not quite the same today. There are shows like that, obviously, that people still attach themselves to and things like that. But when popular shows that weren't quite getting the ratings that the networks wanted were canceled, people would petition, would not riot in the streets, but they would get to a point where they would do whatever they could to try to bring the show back. And I think this is a perfect example of that. And to have this kind of moment in time encapsulated on SNL is really, really interesting. Yeah, 100%. Just like a bygone era of network TV. It's like a really neat time capsule to see. I think he was kind of light, though, on sketches. I think he did really well this episode. Just a little light on sketches. Were there any highlights that you wanted to talk about from his first hosting gig here? Yeah. One of the interesting things, and this has come up on the host countdown on the SNN.Track 4:[27:22] It's hard to explain to people who haven't gone back and watched pre-2000 that SNL didn't lean on its host as much as they do today. Today you'll get them in 10, 11 sketches sometimes or segments. They didn't always do that back then. And you're right. There isn't as much here. In fact, I think the last 20 minutes of the show we don't even see him. Right. He just kind of disappeared. Like, that's just crazy to think about. I don't know if his makeup from Pudge and Solomon was, like, hard to get off, so they just kind of, like, said, take the rest of the night off or something. Yeah, exactly. Like, how did that come to be? But, yeah, he just kind of completely disappears. But, yeah, Solomon and Pudge is a great one to talk about. That's one of my favorite recurring sketches from that era. I think it's just one of those quieter recurring things that we got. It really showcases Eddie and Joe. And when they bring somebody in like Danny to play off of them, I found that very interesting.Track 4:[28:20] I disappeared last December when we had that big snowstorm I'm home I'm home in my room my cold I try to keep warm I drinking some wine get down I looked out at the bottom and it says on the label visit our visions in Sonoma Valley valley. Next thing you know, I'm walking around some valley.Track 4:[28:50] I'm walking in the valley. It's all over.Track 4:[28:54] I look up, I look up. The executive stress test, I think, is probably the best original sketch that we see. He's working for this company, and he's been promoted, but they kind of want to make sure that he's got the bones for it. So he calls his wife, and his wife is clearly having some kind of intimate affair with a gardener. And you know he's he's perplexed on what's happening eddie comes in as a drug dealer who's saying that he owes all this money for the drugs that he's been taking christine ebersol comes in and talks about uh the herpes that that he gave her so and then it just kind of wraps up with ah well we just wanted to make sure you were okay with uh with this job so um it's all an act and as we find out towards the end so i think that's one of the better acting moments that we get to see from danny in this episode yeah he played really aggravated confused like really well in that sketch that's where his acting ability really shines i completely agree with that that executive stress test sketch again light episode he was in a whiner sketch he played kind of like a somebody who was kind of annoyed but showed extra try to exercise some patience with the whiners.Track 4:[30:21] Well, you have to plug them in here. Well, don't kick the china. All right, I won't kick the china. Just let me put... Here. Give me this. Plug it in. Oh, thank you. Let's be honest. That's good acting in and of itself because those whiners are a little hard to take. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I imagine... In the sketch and out of the sketch. On an airplane, I imagine, for sure. So, yeah, that was awesome acting by Danny. But I think even though he was only in a handful of sketches that night, his screen presence was really felt. And it's not a surprise that the show brought him back just barely under two years later, two seasons later. But you could really feel Danny's screen presence in this first episode, even given the light work. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. It's rare to see somebody come back that quickly at this point in the show. After we get out of the original era, Ebersole doesn't seem to like to have a lot of recurring hosts.Track 4:[31:24] So, yeah, to have him come back, as you said, quickly in season nine, pretty much, I think, is it the second episode of that season? It's episode two, yeah. Yeah, and talk of another strange thing, you know, talked about Danny not really fitting the mold of what you would think an SNL host would be at that point because he didn't have any movies coming out and things like that. Well, now he's hosting with his wife, Rhea Permit. And you say, oh, well, she's on Cheers.Track 4:[31:53] Cheers was 77th in the rankings, Nielsen rankings, the year before. It was not a hit. It was almost canceled. So here it is. They're just starting their second season. Danny's not on any show, but they're hosting the show together. So that's really funny to me to see how that matched up. And the episodes where we get married couples, I mean, take it with a grain of salt. Your mileage may vary with Kim Basinger's and Alec Baldwin's of the world but I think this one works pretty good we get them together a lot which is something that is great to see they're not kind of separated, so I enjoyed this episode a lot yeah I thought it was good the monologue was a little flat it seemed like neither of them they were kind of like we're not sure what to do we have some sort of kernel of a thing.Track 4:[32:49] Yeah but it was It sort of fell flat a little bit. I'll give them a pass, though, because Vicky said this is a fun episode. It really shined a light on a reason why I love Danny DeVito. He plays weird. He has such weird energy that he can convey. The two sketches from this episode that I was drawn most toward had that weird quality about Danny. That's what stood out to me for this episode. Which sketches stood out for you? So the Autograph Hounds one, I kind of got a kick out of. And they reminded me of, you've seen The King of Comedy?Track 4:[33:30] So they totally reminded me of, like, Sandra Bernhardt and Robert De Niro's characters from The King of Comedy. Hey, Denise! You screwball! I said you were going to miss it, and you missed it! Yes, you did! You missed it! I struck gold! No, you didn't! You couldn't! I did, I could, and I would even if I couldn't! You know, as Cole Porter said, it's delightful, it's delicious, it's DeWitt! No! Yeah, yeah, yeah, Joyce DeWitt. I saw her coming out of the Burger King, and I nailed her. Look at this. It says, to Herbie, with love, Joyce DeWitt. I don't believe it. Yeah, yeah, what a woman. They're out there waiting. Dick Cavett comes out, and it was really funny. I think there was an ad lib that Dick Cavett made that kind of caught Danny off guard a little bit. He referenced his hat or something.Track 4:[34:21] Yes, yeah. And Danny was like, ah, so he kind of tried to play it off. Danny's obsessed with Ed McMahon. man that's like his white whale of autographs so but the way they they talk about it there's just like he and uh and uh rio perlman's in that sketch as well and tim kazarensky and the way they're playing that is something of the king of comedy it just like he plays weird so well yeah and i wonder if i i think this is about the time that movie was coming out so it might be a kind of an homage to that yeah that's great i had not thought of that yeah i think because i've recently seen the king of comedy so i'm like oh yeah they exactly remind me of he reminds me of rupert pubkin for me uh one of my favorite and i think we get to see uh as you said the wacky side of danny is uh the small world sketch which just really cracks me up and i know you'll get this reference uh you know it's about 12 years later that we get to wake up and smile with david allen Alan Greer and Will Ferrell and, you know, one of the all-time greats. This gets forgotten. I think this is along that lines and is almost like the ancestor to what that would be, where they get stuck on the small world ride in Disney and they're playing that infectious and annoying song over and over and over again. And, you know, cut to three hours later and now Kazerinsky's dead.Track 4:[35:45] And they're trying to figure out how they're going to get him off this, you know, this ride that anybody could easily just jump off of and, you know, jump on the stairs and get out of there. But I love the wackiness of this and the darkness that's kind of under the cover of, of it's a small world after all. So we get to see Danny really shine here with real.Track 4:[36:19] Try and get us out of here you're gonna have to swim for hell don't be crazy Doris the boat's gonna start up any second come on there's no need to panic it is that darkness and I love when uh and wake up and smile is like a great example and I think uh Andrew Dismukes is somebody current who kind of like does things that are similar is when something just like some little thing that happens in life or some little inconvenience that just seems so innocuous and so small at the time just like freaks people out and and it gets built up and like you like you said like tim kazarensky like dies in the sketch and will and wake up and smile will ferrell kills david allen career and the because the teleprompter's been off the weatherman is dead the teleprompter's been off for like 30 seconds and they start freaking out so i love when something's so simple that hat that just like a minor inconvenience or gets escalated to 11 so quickly. Those are some of my favorite sketches, Bill. A hundred percent. Yeah. This is one of those great moments that, again, I think is just forgotten because it's so long ago and it's in this kind of wishy-washy season of SNL.Track 4:[37:31] Yeah, that was a good one. Small World from, yeah, season nine, episode two. Danny also played a weirdo, a stalker in a book beat. He wrote books about stalking a woman named Deborah Rapoport. And he's just like so right at home with these types of weird characters as we've seen for a long time and it's always sunny but kids danny was doing this in the 80s 70s and 80s yes exactly and i love the way that one ends where he ends up getting shot by the woman he was talking to begin with uh yeah he you know it would be very easy to kind of put him in this uh box of of the character that he played on taxi but he finds a different angle to the smarmyness and the and the real like weirdness of all the different ways he can play that he doesn't just do a caricature of another character that he's.Track 4:[38:28] So I think, again, this is just a perfect example of what we get to see from Danny. Yeah, 100%. It's also cool that he was able to do a sketch with Eddie, with the Dion Dion. It's neat, as comedy nerds, to be able to look it back. That's what's so darn cool about SNL, is we have these pieces where you could go back and say, oh, Danny DeVito did something with Eddie Murphy. They're just doing a scene together. and we're out what other show does that happen where we have this treasure trove of material with these two famous actors and this this might be i don't i can't remember honestly unless i'm blanking of the danny devito and eddie murphy doing any movies together but i think i can think of no but but we have this on snl like that's a part of why i love this show see if you can answer this one look at the screen all right frank is talking on the phone to his good friend Then Ronald Reagan, the president of the United States. Suddenly, the president puts him on hold. What would Frank do?Track 4:[39:28] Well, let me see. Back in the 60s, the candidates lightened him and he switched to Republican party. Now, he's a different Frank now, so I think he let it slide, but he let them know not to let it happen again. Maybe so, Dion. All right, for 50 points and a lot of prizes, let's see what Frank would do. Even though it's a less than great game show concept uh danny really ratchets it up again as the game show host you know they don't just go with the obvious person uh in the host role and uh the the whole point is that they're cutting to scenes of piscopo as sinatra and apparently i i don't know if you knew this um i had not heard this before.Track 4:[40:12] But the entire concept of this sketch was that Piscopo would shoot down ideas about Sinatra for sketches because he'd say Frank wouldn't do that. So he was so embodied in what Frank Sinatra would be okay with that they decided to make an entire sketch about what would Frank do. So that's how the entire point of this sketch is to kind of stick it to Piscopo. Yeah kind of like that yeah that's it that's a that's a fun little nugget for snl fans just kind of them ribbing piscopo for his like adoration of frank and not wanting to like go certain places with uh right right i love it so i think yeah especially as far when you said like as far as uh two people hosting together married couple hosting together uh i think this came off really well. Danny came off great. He's looking like a mainstay on SNL. And the next one, we get to see him play with an entirely different cast. So this is awesome. We see what he can do with another era of the show. So it was season 13, episode 6, December of 87. He's promoting Throw Mama from the Train. Bill, SNL nerd here.Track 4:[41:30] I love it when the host is in a cold open. I'm a sucker for that. Oh, yes, absolutely. I do have a trivia question for you. I'm going to put you on the spot. Oh, boy. I know you like trivia as much as I do. So I went back and kind of culled through the archives of it all. Do you know there's only 10 hosts from the Ebersole era that came into the next Lorne era? Now, we're not counting people like Lily or who were on the original era and then went into Ebersole. I'm talking Ebersole to Lorne, only 10 times in the history of the show in the 35 years since that's happened. And Danny is one of those people. How many do you think you could name? Oh, three? I completely... Did Robin Williams? Robin Williams, yep. He was one of them. A couple of obvious ones with former cast. Oh, like Bill Murray. Yeah. Bill and Chetty. Yep.Track 4:[42:26] I think, I swear like Michael Keaton, but I don't know if he hosted under Lorne. Very good. Okay. That's one of the ones I had forgotten. Really? Yeah, I remember Michael hosting during the Ebersole era. Okay, so he did come back for Lorne. I guess I named four. Yeah, that's... So there's also Drew Barrymore, Eddie, Rick Moranis, another one I had forgotten about because he had hosted with Dave Thomas in the Ebersole era, Jeff Bridges, and Kathleen Lane Turner. Okay. Jeff Bridges is one that, that would have somewhat. Yeah. It took, it took a long time for him to come back. I think it was 2010, but yeah, I mean, it's just kind of because Lauren kind of, it felt like he had decided that that era didn't exist in a lot of ways. He obviously couldn't ignore the Eddie of it all. He must have thought an awful lot of Danny DeVito and what he had done the two times he had hosted previous to Lorne coming back to have him come into this new golden era in season 13. So I found it very, very interesting to see this is one of the few people that Lorne was like, okay, we'll give him a pass. He's too good not to bring back. No kidding. Yeah, that's a really cool stat. I love it. Thanks. Thanks for putting me on the spot. Love to do that. You've done that to me. So, you know, I'm just paying it forward.Track 4:[43:47] Yeah, like to my earlier point in excitement, like they must have really, like Lorne must have really seen something and trusted him and the writers must have trusted him. Again, he's in this cold open and you don't often see that with hosts. And I love, like, that's one of those little SNL things that like I love seeing. Well and again to not to keep going back to the host countdown but that's something that we've seen with the people who are really really good being hosts that they trust him so much that they could put them in a cold open and uh you know often i think the reason that we don't see it a lot is because cold open is one of the last things they do most weeks because it's often topical so there's usually a political slant especially these days um so it's not like the game show that they can write on a tuesday night so the host if they're not comfortable or they're having a hard time adjusting to all the stress of doing the show they don't want to add to that stress by putting the code open and as you said like having somebody like danny who you know you can trust and putting him in there with somebody like phil hartman uh in a topical sketch at the time you know, Reagan versus Gorbachev, was really a tip of the cap to what they were able to.Track 4:[45:01] I think it's also too, I mean, obviously the quick turnaround between the live from New York and the monologue and the host has to be ready for the monologue. And usually, I mean, the host is required to be in the monologue. Cast members may or may not be in the monologue. So they have time to dress and stuff, but the host has to change and then go do the monologue. So unless it's a pre-tape, unless it's something like that, I can see logistically why that might not happen. But Danny was so good here. like it's Gorbachev, like getting annoyed at Reagan's little Hollywood anecdotes and babbling, all of that. So just a really fun characterization by Danny. Really inspired casting. But he could have gotten Lovitz or something to play Gorbachev here. It is important that we do not expect too much from this summit, but it is first step. And from first step, many.Track 4:[45:57] Please, Ron, stop staring at my forehead. Oh, I'm sorry I did it again, didn't I? I'm trying so hard not to, but I've got kind of a mental thing about it. Please continue. Never mind. It wasn't important. Anyway, here we are in Washington, D.C. Please give me the grand tour. And Phil's Reagan is so fantastic, probably the best that we've gotten on the show. And to see the two of them play off of each other, and reagan just keeps getting distracted as he's showing them the washington dc monuments and instead of talking about you know the historical value it's you know where jimmy stewart made a movie or where so-and-so stood on the steps and gave this monologue in a movie back in 1940 and gorbachev wants nothing to do with it and i think danny really plays off of phil so well, So cool to see Danny in the cold open. A light little monologue. He's saying that he went to school with Bruce Springsteen from Asbury Park. So he's showing probably doctored yearbook photos of them. But just a fun, just a quirky little Danny thing.Track 4:[47:10] It highlights Bill from this, his third hosting gig. Gig yeah well i mean we have to talk about church chat right because this is uh you know one of those few instances in the church chat history where the host has done it twice now technically he was not the host the first time he did church chat he was a special guest with uh willie nelson's episode in the season before uh kind of like a crutch because they weren't sure how much willie could do uh so they you know they they picked up the bat phone literally and said you know danny can you do and he came in and did two or three sketches is willie's not an actor and how high is he gonna be well yeah exactly yeah i mean it is the 80s and it is willie so so uh so they do the first church chat in this one but this is the one that's more remembered because this was in christmas specials probably until the early 2010s when you'd see these best of christmas snls um where he's you know ends up singing i think santa claus is coming to town correct yeah here here comes santa claus i think yeah so yeah but yeah this was something that everybody even if they hadn't watched this era of the show was really familiar with because you get to see daddy singing with the church lady, church ladies playing the drums. I'm sure that if you have a kid who was watching this in the early 2000s, you'd have to explain who Jessica Hahn was.Track 4:[48:39] But other than that, you've got this great chemistry, again, with another cast member and Danny, with Dana and Danny. I think they were really good together. So church chat has always been one of those things. It's one of the first recurring sketches that really spoke to me.Track 4:[48:55] So I love going back and watching any church chat I can. and this is one of the best ones that they do. All righty. Now, Daniel, you've been very, very busy. I understand you have a new motion picture out, Throw Mama from the Train. That's right. Wow, that's a charming little title, Daniel. And what is our little film about? Well, in the movie, I want Billy Crystal to do away with my mother, knock her off, because she's a pain in the... Oh so it's a family picture we've done a little film about murdering our mother just in time for christmas how convenient.Track 4:[49:34] Come on loosen up church lady i mean it's a comedy yeah i always remember loving this one even when i was a kid like if you're a child of the 80s you were bombarded with jim baker Baker and Tammy Faye Baker, Jessica Hahn, like, uh, all, all those, like all those people, all this, like, so, so if you're an SNL fan as a kid watching the news as a kid, you knew who these people were. I have vivid memories of like Jan hooks is Jessica Hahn. Uh, so, so this was like, yeah, this is like a, something that's etched in my SNL brain and Danny just like playing himself um it's a good vehicle of course for for uh the church lady to shame him and then show obviously she has like sexual repression deep down in there scolding danny about the title of his movie he's promoting throw mama from the train uh so this yeah this is one of the uh very like memorable i think this one and like the sean penn one the rob lowe one those are like the handful of church lady ones that I'll always remember.Track 4:[50:36] Absolutely. Yes. Yeah, that stands out. Another one that I really like from this episode is Mona Lisa. And it's Danny and our girl Jan are this redneck couple living in this trailer. And they've somehow decided to call in this appraiser who's played by Phil Hartman because they're not sure that their Mona Lisa is the real thing. And of course, it's not. But, you know, it's an easy mistake to make for something like that. It's a reprint, you know, it's a blah, blah, blah. And it just escalates. And it gets into, there's Stradivarius, but it actually turns out to be a little kid's plastic ukulele. Right. And Phil just keeps, you know, dashing their dreams, the amount of money. They spent 50 bucks on this. Gold doubloon, which turns out to be, of course, a chocolate candy. Yeah. The gold wrapper on it, until they get to the Orlov diamond, and it is the actual diamond. And Phil sees an opportunity to fool these supposedly dumb people. No, this is just glass. You are a liar. You get out of here. You're a liar, man. That is the Orlov diamond, mister. We had it appraised at the American Gemological Society. It's a certified stone. Serious. Perhaps I can take another look. No, no, no. Get out of here. Get out of here, mister. We don't need those city folks around here. Go on, get out. Get out. Bam. Woo, woo. Out.Track 4:[52:00] You scared me for a minute there. That phony had me thinking we'd been ripped off right and left. I know it. You know what? We shouldn't have let him eat that gold doubloon, though. That's all right. We've got plenty more where that came from. It's just such a great, great work with Jan again. It's never not good to see somebody with Jan, but I think Danny plays really well with that. That Phil playing the smarmy role is kind of a strange kind of turn of the head because he's always not really in that role a lot, but I think he plays it really well. And getting to see the way that they all play off each other is really, really great. Yeah. And seeing Danny play like a Southern, like a Redneck character, like that's like kind of against type of what Danny will usually play. So that was so fun. Yeah, you're right. Like anybody paired with Jan, it's going gonna make for good watching but it just really struck me is how Danny was playing this like southern character he wasn't playing an angry boss or he wasn't you know he just fell right into this like good acting chops man that's like really those acting chops really definitely helped the sketch.Track 4:[53:08] Yeah, and I mean, listen, we're talking about season 13, and you can argue that this is maybe the greatest season of SNL, one of the greatest, for sure, 13, 14.Track 4:[53:21] And when people ask me about this, like, well, how, why, what makes it so special? I think what you see is, and we'll talk about this sketch now a little bit, the doorman, which kind of wraps up the night. Um you know every it's a buzzword especially within the snl community slice of life slice of life but this is actual slice of life and and there's not it's not played for laughs uh danny's a doorman at an expensive uh hotel and uh you know he's talking to nora who comes in and you know none of the people in the building really seem to know each other because you know coming and going and they're all rich and this and that. But obviously Danny is the doorman does. And Phil is moving out of the building that day. And they start to realize that they had never really gotten to talk to each other in a meaningful way. And this kind of really touches Phil. You know, it's funny. It just hit me. I have seen you every day for years. And I don't know anything about you. I mean, I don't know anything about your life or where you're from or your family. It's no big deal. You know, the building is a big chunk of my life, so I'm here. But still, it hits me like that. Well, you know, I live in Long Island City. I commute. I got three kids. Little one, Amy, is still in high school.Track 4:[54:45] The big one, my son's in engineering school. Oh, he's so smart. My Susan, she's at Queens College. And I love this. Like this, you would not see this in modern SNL, for better or worse, and I think for worse, because there's not a lot of laughs here. It's just three people and then two people having a conversation, figuring out, you know, human way to be. And it's just, I don't know, this is something that always gets to me. I love this. And again, getting to see Danny and Phil work together so much this week is fantastic. And this was kind of the cherry on top.Track 4:[55:25] You said it perfectly. Like this is one of those things that I love that touches on shared human experiences is we've all been in that situation where we kind of get one on one with somebody, the co worker, maybe a family member, like some cousin that maybe we should know better, but we haven't. So we get up one on one and it's like, what are we talking about? And then so they're reminiscing about like, because they only know each other's doorman and tenant. It so they're like remember when that package was delivered and it fell back here like so that's the their only common ground that they're establishing right away is that like a one of tenant and doorman so i think that's like funny and it's like it's inherently funny but it's not like played for like comedic heights necessarily it's very relatable but i just i just love that but there's humanity there because you're right like feel like they want to get to know each other but they're just struggling to figure out the common ground that they have outside of the obvious tenant-doorman thing. Yeah, I mean, they're from two walks of life. You imagine this to be probably a fairly low-paying job, and Phil is the rich person who's leaving this building probably for an even nicer place.Track 4:[56:37] So yeah, as you said, the common ground is really, really interesting. Great season. I'm so glad that Danny came back to play with this cast. He's back the next season 14 episode 7 December of 88 he and Arnold did Twins they're out there promoting that movie Arnold makes an appearance here in this episode they had to do Hans and Franz cold open again Danny's in the cold open Bill two episodes in a row Danny's in the cold open with Hans and Franz which by this point was getting a little stale but he injects life into it as an even more more extreme workout partner with Hans and Franz, Victor, I believe his name was. He's taking it past the pump you up into, you should be dead if you're not working out.Track 4:[57:27] Yeah, and then, as you said, Arnold, I think only the one of two times we ever see him on SNL as well. I think he does a filmed cameo at some other point. But yeah, he's sitting in the audience with Maria Shriver. And this, to me, talk about this monologue. We've talked about a couple of monologues that are kind of, eh, okay. We get to see literally behind the door Thomas. And other than Melissa McCarthy on that Mother's Day episode, do we ever really see this? Like, I can't think of another time. Not on the show. Like, the SNL's released videos and we get to see, like, the host waiting. Yes. Or the James Franco documentary, we got to see John Malkovich waiting. But you're right. Like, in an actual episode, we don't see that. Yeah. And it's all because he had such a rush coming out for the first time.Track 4:[58:24] So he wants to do it again, and that's how they get Arnold involved. He gets to see it live from New York, and they're playing the montage, and Danny's just back there, and you can see him getting riled up. I mean, it's such a tiny space, and it's so funny to think about it, because I think in your mind, especially then, when you didn't have as many behind-the-scenes things to see, you're like, this has to be a huge space. They're walking out onto 8-8. No, it's smaller than a closet in your house, like and you know could barely fit two people as they're standing back there but it's just fascinating and i know i know when i was watching this in 1988 that i just i it blew my mind like it's just one of those moments that you're like oh my god did we really see behind the door so.Track 4:[59:11] It's just fantastic it's just such a great way to open probably his best episode arguably not yeah i think it might be and and that's perfectly for for snl geeks like us yeah seeing that backstage i love danny mouthing when like don pardo's like uh because they do the whole intro and i have forgotten that they did that when i watch this again i'm like oh they might just say danny's name and he's gonna know they did like the whole intro i guess back then there were many cast members so so but you could see a mouth like yeah nora dunn and then he i love how the look on his face when he was able to mouth Danny DeVito, he looked all excited. And then the, you can see the, the, the stage director is like, okay, go, go, go, go, go. And then he, and then, then I love it. He's tired. So he does the rest of the monologue laying down.Track 4:[59:59] Exactly. So, so unique. Even at this point, they had done probably 300, 400 episodes of SNL. So to find a new twist on it was really, really great. And again, to this day, we don't really see something like this. So a lot of fun. This episode has in the running for maybe the best sketch that Danny was in throughout his six episodes. I don't know if we're doing parallel thinking as far as what stood out, but I want to hear from you. There's so much from this one. I assume you're talking about You Shot Me? Yes, absolutely. Yes, I mean, oh my goodness. How great is this? How about you, senor? Do you know how to dance?Track 4:[1:00:48] Ow, ow, ow, ow! Why did you shot me? Oh no, I shot you! Did I hit you? Where did I hit you? Where did I hit you? I shot you in the foot. Oh, no, let me see. Oh, no. Oh, no. Are you all right? I'm sorry. I didn't mean to hit you. Get away from me. Are you okay? You shot me. It doesn't hurt. I'm so sorry. I don't mean let me help you. Get away. A nothing concept. A nothing concept. And talk about where host matters. He finds a way to make, and Lovitz too, but basically to set it up, he's a Mexican bandolier in this old west town, and he walks in and they do the whole stereotypical thing with shoot at his feet to make the guy dance, and they don't usually hit them, even in the movies, but somehow Danny hits Lovitz, and.Track 4:[1:01:48] It's into, you shot me. You shot me. Over and over. Over and over and over again. And there's so many other people in this sketch, but who the hell knows that? Because it's just Lovitz and Danny going back and forth. Lovitz is clearly trying to make Danny break, especially towards the end when he's in the bed. You shot me again. Yeah, this is one of those, I mean, all-time moment with Lovitz. But again, if you had an off week and this was, I don't know, Chris Everett, this doesn't work. You need an all-time classic host coming in here to carry a one-note sketch like this and make it into an all-time classic. It is one note, but it's also clever. To me, I don't know what the writing credit on it is, but it has Conan O'Brien's fingerprints on this or Smigel or somebody like that. I don't know if your close personal friend, Robert Smigel, mentioned this sketch to you. I don't know.Track 4:[1:02:50] He has not, but I can ask him next time we have coffee. Yeah, ask him. It feels like Conan or Jack Handy or just that whole writing stable.Track 4:[1:03:00] The cliche of, now dance for me.Track 4:[1:03:03] You see the cowboy shooting. But what if the cowboy actually shot him in the foot? And also what if the cat the guy still maybe felt a little bad about shooting him so that goes to his house the next day yeah exactly that's like one of the things he's like it's almost like i didn't mean to shoot him i was just trying to literally get him to dance so that's like another just like layer to this and then i love how danny tries to convince him that maybe we're both at fault if you really think about it that's right and that's when you see love it's turn and really start to hammer Danny with the shot. And you almost see Danny break. I think, I think he does a pretty good job of, of turning his head. So you can't really see it, but you know, what's happening. We know what's happening there. Yeah.Track 4:[1:03:51] Danny seems like somebody who's just always wanting to stay in the scene as goofy as he can be. He seems like somebody who's like, here's the scene I'm staying in this because it's going to make it better. So yeah, to me, that's like a forgotten classic kind of hard to watch nowadays. Days you kind of have to know where to be a sleuth and know where to look but this was one when i was a kid and the you shot me is like hearing lubbitt say that's just all burned into my snl brain again yeah and it's only done this one time but it is one of those things that you would say with your friends and uh yeah it it held up the test of time for a long time to me that's the highlight of the episode but again you're right like what else like good episode what what else.Track 4:[1:04:35] Yeah, you know, it's funny because you wonder why some of the Christmas sketches haven't carried through. And I think, talk about underrated and forgotten, I think the Scrooge sketch in this is really phenomenal.Track 4:[1:04:50] I mean, last Christmas I gave away so much money and forgave so many loons. I mean, I just barely got my head above water this year. Boy, you gave everyone some great Christmas presents. Ah, tell me about it. Yeah, and then you got New Year's Eve presents for everybody. Yeah, I know. I didn't even realize that you're not supposed to give New Year's Eve presents. They were nice, though. Tell me about it. They were good. Well, sir, maybe you shouldn't have given me that raise. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. The raise was good. But I think I should have just concentrated on you and a little less on the rest of the world. You know, it's been done to death. We've seen it as recently as Steve and Marty. You know scrooge is just kind of hammered into the zeitgeist as far as christmas stuff but yeah they basically it's it's danny as scrooge and uh dana as marley and it's the next year so we've moved a year past you know his realization about the world and and how he's been a.Track 4:[1:05:52] So mean to everyone and he's still nice but he's trying to cut back and that's that's really the genius of this concept to me he's paying for tiny tim's medical bills but he's moving him to a you know a smaller a cheaper hospital still gonna get great care and you know dana's kind of a dick in this like he's just like well okay you know and and like he he offers to get him a turkey and he's He's like, well, last year, you know, he got me the biggest goose in town. So he's being kind of, he's being overextended by this. And he spent so much the year before that he's, again, still being nice, but he needs to. And then it escalates where we get Victoria in one of her better roles, I think, who's trying to collect for drunken sailors who want to stay drunk.Track 4:[1:06:44] You know you donated all this money to them last year mr scrooge like why why can't and he eventually is talked into it but it's it's so smartly written and it's one of those things again that just kind of could have been overplayed it's not it's perfectly done a quieter piece as far as christmas pieces go but yeah this this is something that sticks out to me and something that I've almost forgotten over the years because we don't see it in the specials. So yeah, a couple of like really cool, smart pieces with the Scrooge and the, you shot me. Uh, uh, and, uh, another thing, anything else that kind of sticks out for you? Um, I mean, I think, uh, you know, it's another Christmas piece and it's not as good as the Scrooge one we just talked about, but they, they doubled down on wonderful life here too, where Kevin's, uh, in the Jimmy Stewart role and, and looks like he's going to kill himself and, and Danny shows up as his angel. But he wasn't going to kill himself. He was actually admiring life and kind of just contemplating all the good in the world.Track 4:[1:07:48] Dandy's just never going to get his wings because he can't find anybody who's ready to jump off a bridge and uh you know then we get phil and dana in there as well so that's another one that's that's kind of something that sticks out to me that i think i will put into my christmas rotation along with the scrooge one because i i think uh they just really hold up yeah i like that one little parade of ghosts there right yeah and that all the angels waiting for their wings yeah absolutely so a really great appearance that was his fourth gig season 14 episode 7 january of 93 his uh fifth time though according to danny and the show this might be his fourth time bill i don't know we'll get to that uh here in probably in a few minutes but but this is his fifth time damn it and uh what i'm gonna call unofficially the amy fisher episode of snl.Track 4:[1:08:43] Gather the kids around and explain why the hell an entire episode of snl is dedicated to this one story like almost an entire episode of us oh my goodness like but you know i mean you're younger than me thomas this was everywhere and this was yeah i mean completely this is accurate to the time that it's in and you would never see this we talked about alec baldwin on the episode that you were on with us on the John Goodman episode for the host and how they leaned into the Monica Lewinsky thing. And it was an entire episode dedicated to that controversy. And you wouldn't see this in SNL today because it's more of the YouTube bits. What can we put up online and as a five minute thing to have a runner like this.Track 4:[1:09:37] Uh danny playing multiple roles he's playing butafuco a couple of times uh if if you don't know what we're talking about kids go look it up we're not going to explain it to you uh amy fisher joey butafuco it's a real thing but um yeah and and they do this like what four or five times we get this runner throughout the episode and then they do other sketches dedicated to it as well So the runner is like, they start off with Aaron Spelling's Amy Fisher. It's like a takeoff on Beverly Hills 90210. So they play it like that. Danny's playing Joey Buttafuoco. Amy, you really did it this time. You really banged up your car. Yeah. I'll bet that's not all you could bang. Yeah. The only Amy Fisher story told from Tori Spelling's point of view. You know, I've been with the same woman for 17 years. That's crazy.Track 4:[1:10:42] You don't want to get involved with an old guy like me. And then they do a Masterpiece Theater version of it that Danny was in again. Again, my favorite one, Danny wasn't in it, but it was the BET version with Ellen, Clay Horn and Tim Meadows. So good. Yeah.

Daniel Webb returns to discuss stalking crushes, Tori Spelling on Dancing with the Stars, and 90210. Duh.

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Our favorite fashion designer, Jane Mancini, is on the pod!    Josie Bissett joins Courtney, Laura, and Daphne for a fun trip down memory lane, including how booking the show affected her honeymoon, how Aaron Spelling reacted to her decision to leave the show, and the note Josie left for Laura at the end of Season 5!   Plus, Laura, Josie, and Daphne share stories from the episode of Fantasy Island they shot together in Puerto Rico and the unexpected little furry friend they made! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Norman Stiles and I discuss watching Howdy Doody and having a friend on Mr. Wizard; being a welfare worker and writing jokes for Allen & Rossi; writing for the Merv Griffin Show; getting into the Childrens Television Workshop and then Sesame Street; how Sesame Street is taped in chunks; creating Count von Count; Jim Henson not being around; the TV special Out to Lunch; working with Christopher Cerf; writing on the Muppet Show pilot; leaving to create When Things Were Rotten and why the series was cancelled; writing the Space Force pilot for Fred Willard; writing for The Captain and Tenille Show, Fernwood Tonight, and America Tonight; pitching a show for Aaron Spelling called Invisible Reporter; going back to Sesame Street; writing the "Death of Mr. Hooper" episode; the Sesame Street curriculum; guest stars including Phil Donahue; Between the Lions; and living in Hoboken.

Author William Keck joined us for An Author's Afternoon in The Locher Room to tell us about his new book, "When You Step Upon A Star: Cringeworthy Confessions of a Tabloid Bad Boy” William began his career working for TV titan Aaron Spelling and as an NBC and CBS studio page before turning his focus to journalism and television production. He has worked as a staff reporter for the National Enquirer and USA Today, a senior editor and columnist for TV Guide, a regular contributor to People, Us Weekly, Closer Weekly, Entertainment Weekly, and so much more.In the book, William draws from his three decades working as an entertainment reporter. He confesses ALL about his most memorable celebrity encounters that (for one reason or another) went horribly wrong. Far more than a shocking admission of past sins, the book chronicles the repentant author's own evolution from a lonely only child obsessed with Hollywood stars, to an eager tabloid snoop keeping personal secrets of his own, to a well-respected journalist who ultimately learns from his mistakes, changes his wicked ways and befriends the celebrities he'd once wronged.Hear these stories firsthand from William and read them on the pages of William's book. 

In the Season 1 Episode 3 recap of 'Thank You For Not Morphing,' Shannen and Holly reunite with their on-screen long lost father 'Victor' played by the timeless Tony Denison! Find out why he was replaced on Charmed, and how producer Aaron Spelling paid some big bucks to make it up to him. Plus, what other casting moves did producers make without telling Prue and Piper? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

He was the cute boy next door . . . heck, he's still the cute guy next door!  Andrew Shue joins Daphne, Laura, and Courtney to reminisce about his time as Billy Campbell on Melrose Place, including how a picture with his sister, Elisabeth Shue, changed the trajectory of his career, his unique experience auditioning at Aaron Spelling's house, playing Courtney's boyfriend on screen when they had broken up in real life, and, of course, unpacking Billy's hot on-screen dating life! Plus, Andrew reveals he is not interested in acting again, but would he be up for an MP reunion? He also shares what he's working on now, including a nonpartisan initiative hoping to tackle the root causes of government ineffectiveness. For more info, visit thepeople.org. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

He was the cute boy next door . . . heck, he's still the cute guy next door!    Andrew Shue joins Daphne, Laura, and Courtney to reminisce about his time as Billy Campbell on Melrose Place, including how a picture with his sister, Elisabeth Shue, changed the trajectory of his career, his unique experience auditioning at Aaron Spelling's house, playing Courtney's boyfriend on screen when they had broken up in real life, and, of course, unpacking Billy's hot on-screen dating life!     Plus, Andrew reveals he is not interested in acting again, but would he be up for an MP reunion? He also shares what he's working on now, including a nonpartisan initiative hoping to tackle the root causes of government ineffectiveness. For more info, visit thepeople.org. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode, we're diving into the pilot of Beverly Hills, 90210. We'll be talking about how Brandon and Brenda Walsh tackled the drama at West Beverly High, and how this show basically kickstarted the whole teen drama craze. Created by Darren Star and produced by Aaron Spelling, it was a total game-changer, mixing in drama, romance, and a whole lot of social commentary against the backdrop of ritzy Beverly Hills. Jodie and Andrea can't help but question why this school is so obsessed with its newspaper, break down all the different class dynamics happening, and marvel over how the school radio station had such a huge influence on high school movies and TV back in the day. So, grab your scrunchies and join us as we dive deep into the glitz and drama of Beverly Hills, 90210!Beverly Hills, 90210 Restored: @bh90210restoredNext week, we're covering My So-Called Life, a short-lived but pivotal exploration of adolescence starring Claire Danes and created by Winnie Holzman.Follow:The Watchers on Instagram (@WatchersPodNJ)Andrea on Instagram (@AQAndreaQ)Jodie on Instagram (@jodie_mim)Our sister show, New Jersey Is the World, on Instagram (@newjerseyistheworld)Thanks to Kitzy (@heykitzy) for the use of our theme song, "No Book Club."

We had a great conversation with actress Michelle Stafford from the hit CBS TV Show The Young & the Restless!Michelle Stafford returned to THE YOUNG AND THE RESTLESS as Phyllis Summers in June 2019. She originated the role in 1994.For her work on Y&R, Stafford has a total of twelve Daytime Emmy nominations. She was awarded the Daytime Emmys Award for Outstanding Lead Actress in a Drama Series in 2004 and 2024 as well as Outstanding Supporting Actress in 1997. She is also the proud recipient of three consecutive Soap Opera Digest Awards, which were decided by the audience.From 2014-2019, Michelle played the role of Nina Reeves on the daytime drama, “General Hospital”.In 2016, she appeared opposite Tom Sizemore in the feature film, “Durant's Never Closes”. Her other film credits include the blockbuster film "Double Jeopardy" with Ashley Judd and Tommy Lee Jones. She also appeared in "Vampires Anonymous," which has won many independent feature festival awards. Her other television credits include a starring role on the Aaron Spelling series "Pacific Palisades," as well as appearances on such television series as "Judging Amy," "Frasier," "JAG," "Diagnosis Murder," "Two Guys, a Girl and a Pizza Place," and "Strong Medicine." She had a recurring role on Pamela Anderson's "VIP" and starred in the television movie, "Like Mother, Like Daughter."Michelle is active in the digital space having created, executive produced, and starred in the critically acclaimed digital series “The Stafford Project” that Entertainment Weekly called ‘hilarious' and was named by TV Guide's Hot List as ‘the web series to watch'. She also wrote, directed and starred with her daughter in the Nickelodeon Mom digital series, “Secret Mind of a Single Mom”.Her theater roles include a Los Angeles production of "The Heartbeats in Waltz Time," which was directed by Tony Award winner Charles Durning, and "Savage in Limbo," also directed by Durning, for which The Los Angeles Times touted her as "the sensational Michelle Stafford." An ardent sports fan, she also served as the "Best Damn Stanley Cup" correspondent on Fox Sports' "Best Damn Sports Show Period.” Michelle is the founder and CEO of “Skin Care Nation”, a skin care line of natural and organic products. She founded “Skin Care Nation” with the goal that everyone from all backgrounds should benefit from the use of clean, plant-based products.

Grab your swimsuit and a chilled drink, and get ready to re-watch the hottest show of the summer with your favorite neighbors!      Join Sydney, Alison, and Jo, aka Laura Leighton, Courtney Thorne-Smith, and Daphne Zuniga, as they take you back to the summer of 1992 and the birth of a show that would captivate audiences! Courtney was there from the very beginning, and she has stories! Like how her chemistry with Andrew Shue was so strong that they were dating by the second episode, Aaron Spelling's pool rule, things that would never happen on a set now but did back then, and, of course, a shirtless count!      Plus, the ladies share their feelings after re-watching the pilot, including what they think didn't age so well, and Courtney reveals the insecurities she was dealing with at the age of 24 that she finds so heartbreaking today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Grab your swimsuit and a chilled drink, and get ready to re-watch the hottest show of the summer with your favorite neighbors!      Join Sydney, Alison, and Jo, aka Laura Leighton, Courtney Thorne-Smith, and Daphne Zuniga, as they take you back to the summer of 1992 and the birth of a show that would captivate audiences! Courtney was there from the very beginning, and she has stories! Like how her chemistry with Andrew Shue was so strong that they were dating by the second episode, Aaron Spelling's pool rule, things that would never happen on a set now but did back then, and, of course, a shirtless count!      Plus, the ladies share their feelings after re-watching the pilot, including what they think didn't age so well, and Courtney reveals the insecurities she was dealing with at the age of 24 that she finds so heartbreaking today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Melissa and Rebekah are on a brief summer hiatus! Due to the current obsession Tori Spelling's podcast, please enjoy this REPLAY of their 25th episode about the legend herself. Criminality will be back with an all new episode on Aug 9, 2024!Welcome to the 25th episode of CRIMINALITY - because loving reality (TV) isn't a crime! Melissa shares the “stori” of a woman who has TV in her blood. Tori Spelling grew up in a life of luxury due to the successful shows her Dad, Aaron Spelling, created. But she went on to have a “Rags to Riches in Reverse” kind of story. From a measly inheritance to back taxes, and a couple pricey lawsuits, Tori Spelling was “inn”over head financially. Today's episode has a lot of nostalgic tv memories and a video clip you will never unsee!Follow us on social media! We are @criminalityshow on IG/FB + TwitterYou can say hi and tell us what you're watching: criminalityshow@gmail.comEnjoy the show? Please rate/review then share with a friend because loving REALITY isn't a CRIME! https://podfollow.com/criminalityEpisode Sources:PEOPLEhttps://people.com/celebrity/tori-spellings-ex-recalls-painful-breakup/https://people.com/celebrity/tori-spelling-dean-mcdermott-wed-in-fiji/TMZhttps://www.tmz.com/2016/01/20/candy-spelling-tori-american-express-lawsuit-money/WONDERWALLhttps://www.wonderwall.com/news/tori-spelling-settles-benihana-over-hibachi-case-california-claiming-dibs-money-338k-debt-3010258.articleYOUTUBEhttps://youtu.be/R2aLljoXL20HOLLYWOOD REPORTERhttps://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-reviews/mother-may-i-sleep-danger-903438/TODAYhttps://www.today.com/popculture/tori-spelling-revealed-unicorn-masked-singer-t147820FUTON CRITIC http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2013/08/26/production-begins-on-tori-and-dean-cabin-fever-623511/20130826hgtv02/ET ONLINEhttps://www.etonline.com/tori-spelling-reveals-how-she-navigates-messy-situations-exclusive-170932https://www.etonline.com/tv/152762_tori_spelling_says_she_and_dean_mcdermott_had_sex_the_first_night_they_metBOOKS.COMhttps://books.google.com/books?id=3XRYAQAAQBAJUS MAGAZINEhttps://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/tori-spelling-must-pay-amex-nearly-39k-in-unpaid-bills-w443227/https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/tori-spelling-and-dean-mcdermotts-ups-and-downs/2021-2/ABC MAGAZINE https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2013/10/tori-spelling-admits-financial-troubles-goes-from-bling-to-budget/YAHOOhttps://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/news/tori-spelling-reality-show-slapped-with--60-million-lawsuit-131130397.htmlWEB ARCHIVEShttps://web.archive.org/web/20140427203118/http://www.thevillagenews.com/story/22271/https://web.archive.org/web/20170607072451/http://people.com/celebrity/tori-spellings-husband-files-for-divorce/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Melissa and Rebekah are on a brief summer hiatus! Due to the current obsession Tori Spelling's podcast, please enjoy this REPLAY of their 25th episode about the legend herself. Criminality will be back with an all new episode on Aug 9, 2024! Welcome to the 25th episode of CRIMINALITY - because loving reality (TV) isn't a crime! Melissa shares the “stori” of a woman who has TV in her blood. Tori Spelling grew up in a life of luxury due to the successful shows her Dad, Aaron Spelling, created. But she went on to have a “Rags to Riches in Reverse” kind of story. From a measly inheritance to back taxes, and a couple pricey lawsuits, Tori Spelling was “inn”over head financially. Today's episode has a lot of nostalgic tv memories and a video clip you will never unsee! Follow us on social media! We are @criminalityshow on IG/FB + Twitter You can say hi and tell us what you're watching: criminalityshow@gmail.com Enjoy the show? Please rate/review then share with a friend because loving REALITY isn't a CRIME! https://podfollow.com/criminality Episode Sources: PEOPLE https://people.com/celebrity/tori-spellings-ex-recalls-painful-breakup/ https://people.com/celebrity/tori-spelling-dean-mcdermott-wed-in-fiji/ TMZ https://www.tmz.com/2016/01/20/candy-spelling-tori-american-express-lawsuit-money/ WONDERWALL https://www.wonderwall.com/news/tori-spelling-settles-benihana-over-hibachi-case-california-claiming-dibs-money-338k-debt-3010258.article YOUTUBE https://youtu.be/R2aLljoXL20 HOLLYWOOD REPORTER https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-reviews/mother-may-i-sleep-danger-903438/ TODAY https://www.today.com/popculture/tori-spelling-revealed-unicorn-masked-singer-t147820 FUTON CRITIC http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2013/08/26/production-begins-on-tori-and-dean-cabin-fever-623511/20130826hgtv02/ ET ONLINE https://www.etonline.com/tori-spelling-reveals-how-she-navigates-messy-situations-exclusive-170932 https://www.etonline.com/tv/152762_tori_spelling_says_she_and_dean_mcdermott_had_sex_the_first_night_they_met BOOKS.COM https://books.google.com/books?id=3XRYAQAAQBAJ US MAGAZINE https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/tori-spelling-must-pay-amex-nearly-39k-in-unpaid-bills-w443227/ https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/tori-spelling-and-dean-mcdermotts-ups-and-downs/2021-2/ ABC MAGAZINE https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2013/10/tori-spelling-admits-financial-troubles-goes-from-bling-to-budget/ YAHOO https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/news/tori-spelling-reality-show-slapped-with--60-million-lawsuit-131130397.html WEB ARCHIVES https://web.archive.org/web/20140427203118/http://www.thevillagenews.com/story/22271/ https://web.archive.org/web/20170607072451/http://people.com/celebrity/tori-spellings-husband-files-for-divorce/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Today on Too Opinionated we talk with Author William Keck about his new book: When You Step Upon A Star: Cringeworthy Confessions of a Tabloid Bad Boy William Keck began his career working for TV titan Aaron Spelling and as an NBC and CBS studio page before turning his focus to journalism and television production. He has worked as a staff reporter for the National Enquirer and USA Today, a senior editor and columnist for TV Guide, a regular contributor to People, Us Weekly, Closer Weekly, Entertainment Weekly, Disney twenty-three and the Los Angeles Times, and as a senior talent producer for NBC, Discovery Channel and Hallmark Channel's Home & Family. William Keck is also known for reuniting, and moderating panels with the casts of classic television shows such as The Brady Bunch, The Partridge Family, Happy Days, Laverne and Shirley, Mork & Mindy, Lost in Space, Life Goes On, Dynasty, Dallas, Knots Landing, Falcon Crest, The Waltons, Batman and many more. When You Step Upon A Star: Cringeworthy Confessions of a Tabloid Bad Boy is a humorous—yet brutally honest—tell-all from a reformed National Enquirer bad boy who exposed celebrities' private lives while harboring deeply personal secrets of his own. Discover what inspired author WILLIAM KECK to infiltrate the off-limits realms of the Hollywood icons he grew up idolizing, and the invaluable life lessons learned along the way that ultimately guided him to protect and befriend the celebrities he'd once wronged. Filled with original celebrity-penned essays and over 150 photographs illustrating the author's decades of celebrity exposés and encounters. Want to watch: YouTube Meisterkhan Pod (Please Subscribe)  

The Wrecks of '98 continues with Malcolm McDowell trying to fill some big, rich corinthian leather shoes; as he learns the Hard way that not everything needs to be re-made. SPONSORED BY: Dave's Archives Retrocirq Kier's Nostalgia Corner And out Patrons

Actress and podcaster, Shannen Doherty joins Kelly and gives her an update on her health. They discuss her dating life (she's over bad boys!), ex husbands, and the one that got away. Shannen is clearing the air on lies and old rumors about getting fired from Beverly Hills 90210, feuds with Charmed co-stars, and why she thinks Aaron Spelling hired her again.

Imagine F. Scott Fitzgerald in the afterlife, some thirty-six years after his premature passing, discovering to his dismay that the cheesiest TV producer ever has copped the title to a little-known short story of his and turned it into a landmark of cultural kitsch. That's the premise of this episode, in which we dissect the creepiest story Fitzgerald ever wrote, called, unfortunately "The Love Boat." Yes, we'll soon be making another run of endless Isaac and Gopher jokes as we explore this tale of a man who consoles his mid-life crisis by crashing not one but two (!) high-school proms. You read that right: creepy! The story actually takes its title from a famous 1920 ballad from the Ziegfeld follies, but why let that stop us from going off on an Aaron Spelling jag. Come aboard! We're expecting you!  

Actress Jane Daly played the beautiful Dr. Molly Campbell, Dylan's hypnotherapist. All these years later, she is STILL mesmerizing. In this episode, she remembers her friendship with Luke Perry, her history with Aaron Spelling,and Jennie even asks about those sexy camera angles we couldn't help but notice!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Air date Feb 10, 1997. After taking a punch from Billy, a frustrated Jake hits the road and ends up in a small town visiting his former girlfriend Colleen and her eight-year-old son. Back in Los Angeles, Alison has Billy as company when she hears her unborn baby's heartbeat. Meanwhile, Carter, wanting to get away from his solitude life, moves in with Sydney and begins looking for a new job and finds one... in Kyle's restaurant. Michael's personal care for Kimberly works wonders for her when they learn that her brain tumor is shrinking, but it has Megan wondering if she and Michael are finished. Peter finally starts a romance with Taylor, while a revenge-seeking Craig meets with Nick and hires him to spy on Peter, hoping to find out what he's up to in order to break Peter and Amanda up.Contribute to the podcast!Patreon- https://bit.ly/2pq8x1BBuy Podcast Merch! - bit.ly/melrosemerchFollow us on social media!Join our Facebook Group - https://bit.ly/MelroseFBGroupFacebook- https://facebook.com/melrosepodInstagram- https://instagram.com/melrosepodTwitter- https://twitter.com/melrosepodEmail - Melrosepod@gmail.comMore Ways to listen!Apple Podcasts - https://goo.gl/9T4WnbSpotify - http://bit.ly/melrosepodspotifyGoogle Podcasts - https://goo.gl/cxtxjTiHeart Radio - https://bit.ly/iheartradiomelrosepod

Brian, Sharna, and Randy are back with special guest Shannen Doherty!  Talk about catching up with old(ish) friends! So many memories, fun stories, and revelations are exchanged, like Brian and Shannen admitting they had a brief fling after 90210!! They share all the details, including why it didn't work out.  Plus, after not seeing each other for over 20 years, Randy and Shannen have much to catch up on, including reminiscing about their wrestling matches at his family's home and her "freakish" strength (yes, she was the winner) and Randy confesses she was his first celebrity crush! Shannen also opens up about her complicated relationship with Randy's dad, Aaron Spelling, including a story that shocks him.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Linda Gray steps Behind The Rope. Yes, Sue Ellen Ewing in the flesh!  Linda is here to chat about the full anthology of her career and what it was like to be part of one of the most Iconic shows of all time, Dallas. Linda reminisces about being cast, the early days on set with co-stars such as Larry Hagman, Patrick Duffy, Charlene Tilton and Victoria Principal - to name a few, the highs and lows of Sue Ellen, best and worst storylines for the character, playing drunk and how life changed as a result of Dallas. Linda opens up about leaving the show after twelve seasons, returning for the series finale, being a fan favorite, life after Dallas and the positives and negatives of playing one character for so long. Linda also opens up about her life long friendships with Larry Hagman and Patrick Duffy, the TNT “Dallas Reboot” that ended way too soon, the future of the Dallas legacy and whether another Reboot is looming on the horizon. Of course, there was also that other fav show of ours Linda starred in, Models Inc.  Linda chats working on an Aaron Spelling show, playing Heather Locklear's mother and working with both RHOBH's Garcelle Beauvais in one of her first full time acting gigs and a then unknown pre-Matrix Carrie-Anne Moss.  Thank you Linda. What a fun trip down memory lane regarding one of the best TV characters to ever exist in the history of TV, the one, the only, Miss Sue Ellen Ewing!!!!! @lindagray_ @behindvelvetrope @davidyontef BONUS & AD FREE EPISODES Available at - www.patreon.com/behindthevelvetrope  BROUGHT TO YOU BY: VIIA - viiahemp.com (Use Code Velvet For 15% Off + One Free Sample Of Their Sleepy Dreams Gummies. 21+) GOHENRY - gohenry.com/VELVET (Set Your Kids Up For Success w/ The Best Debit Card & Financial App For Kids 6 to 18) HELLOFRESH - HelloFresh.com/velvetropefree  (Use Code velvetropefree For Free Breakfast For Life on America's #1 Meal Kit) QUINCE - quince.com/velvetrope (Get Free Shipping and 365 Day Returns on Elevated Luxury Without Paying Luxury Prices)  INDEED - indeed.com/velvet (Seventy Five Dollar $75 Sponsored Job Credit To Get Your Jobs More Visibility)  LIFEMD - lifemd.com/VELVET (Visit lifemd.com/VELVET To Start Your Weight Loss Journey Today) WOOGA (Download June's Journey Now on your iOS or Android Device) ADVERTISING INQUIRIES - Please contact David@advertising-execs.com MERCH Available at - https://www.teepublic.com/stores/behind-the-velvet-rope?ref_id=13198 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Actress Carolyn Jones had been prominent in Hollywood for a decade and a half before her turn as Morticia Addams made her a cultural touchstone. She also married four times - and divorced three - including to TV producer and unintentional season theme Aaron Spelling. This October 2020 episode originally appeared on Patreon, so it's a bit looser and a bit sillier than most. Happy Thanksgiving, Trash Pandas! We are eternally thankful for you! Want early, ad-free episodes, bonus divorces, limited series, Zoom hangouts, and more? Join us at patreon.com/trashydivorces! Sponsors Lume Deodorant. New customers get $5 off Lume's Starter Pack, and returning customers get $5 off their next purchase of $30 or more, with code TRASHY at LumeDeodorant.com. To advertise on our podcast, please reach out to sales@advertisecast.com or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/TrashyDivorces. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aaron Spelling spent decades at the pinnacle of television production in America, spearheading cultural touchstones like Charlie's Angels, The Love Boat, Dynasty, and, for today's story, the 90s classic Beverly Hills, 90210. The show launched numerous young stars' careers, some more successfully than others. Actor Ian Ziering portrayed Steve Sanders in all 10 seasons of the show, but his life and career have been a bit turbulent. A short first marriage overlapped the show, and a longer, but now over, marriage overlapped his time starring in the cult movie series Sharknado. Alicia has all the trashy details. Want early, ad-free episodes, bonus divorces, limited series, Zoom hangouts, and more? Join us at patreon.com/trashydivorces! Sponsors Get fresh, flavor-packed meals straight to your door from Factor. Head to factormeals.com/trashy50 and use code trashy50 to get 50% off! To advertise on our podcast, please reach out to sales@advertisecast.com or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/TrashyDivorces. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Content note: Discussion of suicide. For a vanishingly brief few years in the late 80s and early 90s, America fell in love with a French actor most known for his small stature and high excitement at new arrivals. When Herve Villechaize opened Aaron Spelling's Fantasy Island with the exclamation, "The plane! The plane!" the public knew they were about to treated to another charming adventure featuring stars old and new. Unfortunately for Herve, his ego and excesses - he claimed to have slept with 35 women while filming a Bond movie in the 70s, during his first marriage - would get in the way of his continuing stardom, and increasing medical complications would rob his life of joy. Want early, ad-free episodes, bonus divorces, limited series, Zoom hangouts, and more? Join us at patreon.com/trashydivorces! Sponsors June's Journey from Wooga. June needs your help, detective! Download June's Journey for free today on iOS and Android! Download Lily's Garden for free today on iOS and Andriod and discover how many mysteries and romance one garden can hold! To advertise on our podcast, please reach out to sales@advertisecast.com or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/TrashyDivorces. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices