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AI agents are revolutionizing marketing automation. Nicholas Holland, Head of AI at HubSpot, shares his expertise on how agentic AI is transforming traditional marketing workflows. He highlights key thought leaders marketers should follow for AI insights, including Matthew Berman's technical yet accessible content and HubSpot's "Marketing Against the Grain" podcast for practical implementation strategies.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

AI agents are reshaping marketing automation. Nicholas Holland, Head of AI at HubSpot, explains the shift from managing people to orchestrating AI agents. He emphasizes that current AI technology isn't the bottleneck - rather, organizations need structured frameworks for agent management, clear guidelines for implementation, and new metrics for evaluating management effectiveness in hybrid human-AI teams.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Will AI replace marketing jobs by 2028? Nicholas Holland, Head of AI at HubSpot, examines the evolution of AI agents and their impact on marketing automation. He explores how agentic AI is fundamentally changing marketing workflows, team structures, and job functions. Holland also shares insights on staying current with AI developments through content creators like Matthew Berman who balance technical depth with practical business applications.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Custom AI agents vs. out-of-the-box tools: which delivers better ROI? Nicholas Holland, Head of AI at HubSpot, shares his expertise on the evolution of AI agents in marketing automation. He recommends starting with pre-built AI tools before attempting custom development, emphasizing the importance of mastering prompt engineering and data integration first. Holland outlines a practical progression path from using AI for basic tasks to implementing complex automated workflows that can transform marketing operations.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Nicholas, Head of AI at HubSpot discusses AI Agents for marketing automation.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Contextual advertising is evolving with AI integration. Kerel Cooper, CMO at GumGum, shares how advertisers can deliver effective campaigns without relying on personal data. He explains how AI-powered contextual targeting tools can identify relevant content environments, maintain brand safety, and scale advertising efforts across emerging digital platforms while preserving user privacy. Show Notes Connect With:Kerel Cooper: Website // LinkedInThe MarTech Podcast: Email // LinkedIn // TwitterBenjamin Shapiro: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

AI's role in contextual advertising is under scrutiny. Kerel Cooper, CMO at GumGum, challenges conventional thinking about digital advertising channels and data usage. He explains how contextual targeting works across display, video, and podcast formats without relying on personal data, while sharing insights on why video has become his top channel choice for reaching today's consumers. Show Notes Connect With:Kerel Cooper: Website // LinkedInThe MarTech Podcast: Email // LinkedIn // TwitterBenjamin Shapiro: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

AI-powered contextual targeting is transforming advertising strategies. Kerel Cooper, Chief Marketing Officer at GumGum, explains how contextual advertising tools can deliver effective campaigns without relying on personal data. He discusses how AI's ability to understand content context creates more relevant ad placements, addresses skepticism about AI's comprehension of human nuance, and highlights how these technologies continue to improve efficiency while respecting user privacy. Show Notes Connect With:Kerel Cooper: Website // LinkedInThe MarTech Podcast: Email // LinkedIn // TwitterBenjamin Shapiro: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Cookie deprecation is reshaping digital advertising strategies. Kerel Cooper, CMO at GumGum, explains how contextual targeting delivers effective advertising without relying on personal data. He discusses AI-powered contextual intelligence tools that analyze content for brand safety and suitability, while sharing how marketers can leverage these technologies to maintain campaign performance in a privacy-first digital landscape. Show Notes Connect With:Kerel Cooper: Website // LinkedInThe MarTech Podcast: Email // LinkedIn // TwitterBenjamin Shapiro: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Contextual advertising is making a comeback in digital marketing. Kerel Cooper, Chief Marketing Officer at GumGum, explains how AI-powered contextual targeting has evolved beyond basic URL matching to analyze entire page content, audio files, and video frames. Modern contextual tools now identify consumer mindset and emotional states to deliver more relevant messaging, while helping brands expand their reach beyond obvious content categories through sophisticated propensity modeling and real-time optimization. Show Notes CHAPTERS: 00:15: History of Contextual Targeting02:18: Contextual vs. Cookie Targeting04:22: Expanding Audience Reach07:12: AI-Powered Content Analysis09:35: Right Person, Right Time11:42: Live Event Targeting Trends14:10: Marketing During UncertaintyCONNECT:Kerel Cooper: Website // LinkedInThe MarTech Podcast: Email // LinkedIn // TwitterBenjamin Shapiro: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterAI-Powered Contextual Ad Targeting: The Evolution of Smarter AdvertisingIn today's privacy-conscious digital landscape, contextual advertising is experiencing a renaissance. Kerel Cooper, Chief Marketing Officer at GumGum, joins the podcast to explain how contextual targeting has evolved from basic URL-based approaches to sophisticated AI-powered systems that understand content at a deeper level. With over 20 years of digital media experience, Cooper provides valuable insights into how GumGum's contextual-first digital advertising platform helps brands deliver relevant messages without relying on personal data.The Evolution of Contextual AdvertisingContextual advertising has transformed dramatically since its early days. "Originally, contextual advertising was all about targeting based on the URL, maybe doing some targeting based on keywords," explains Cooper. "If you were at domain.com/autos, we were targeting you in the auto section and you became an auto intender." Today's contextual advertising is far more sophisticated, using AI to analyze entire pages of text, audio files, and videos frame-by-frame to understand content in its proper context and determine consumer mindset.Beyond Basic Domain TargetingModern contextual advertising goes beyond simply matching ads to domain categories. GumGum's technology can analyze the emotional state of users based on the content they're consuming and make intelligent assumptions about their interests. For example, a recent case study with Mars pet care products demonstrated how contextual targeting could expand reach beyond obvious pet-related content. By using GumGum's "Mindset Graph," Mars discovered that their target audiences (heavy dog food buyers, new puppy parents) also consumed content in categories like home and garden, food and drink, and travel – resulting in an 89% higher view-through rate compared to their standard targeting approaches.The AI Advantage in Contextual TargetingAI is at the heart of modern contextual advertising's effectiveness. GumGum's technology uses artificial intelligence to understand the entire content of articles, audio files, and videos, then determines the likely mindset of consumers engaging with that content. This allows for delivering not just the right brand message, but delivering it when consumers are in the optimal mindset to engage with it. As Cooper notes, "You can deliver ads anywhere, you can buy impressions anywhere, but that doesn't mean that they're meaningful."The Right Person, Right Place, Right TimeThe key to effective contextual advertising is understanding when consumers are in the right mindset to receive your message. While no targeting method is perfect, GumGum's technology optimizes throughout campaigns to improve performance. The system can even adapt to real-time events and emotional states – for example, delivering different messages to fans of wi ing versus losing sports teams during a championship game, with perhaps "champagne ads for the wi ers and whiskey ads for the losers."Why Marketers Are Embracing Contextual AdvertisingWith 72% of marketers now using contextual advertising, it's clear this approach is gaining momentum. This growth stems from several factors: increasing privacy regulations limiting cookie-based targeting, marketers seeking to build emotional co ections with consumers, and the improved effectiveness of AI-powered contextual solutions. Cooper advises that regardless of economic uncertainty, "the worst thing that you could do is kill off budgets, pull back from marketing." Instead, marketers should leverage tools like contextual advertising that can reach consumers more efficiently and effectively.ConclusionAs third-party cookies fade away and privacy concerns mount, contextual advertising offers marketers a powerful alternative that doesn't rely on personal data. The evolution from simple domain targeting to sophisticated AI-powered content analysis has transformed contextual advertising into a highly effective approach for reaching consumers in the right mindset. By understanding not just what content people are consuming but the context and emotional state in which they're consuming it, marketers can deliver more meaningful, relevant messages that resonate with their audience and drive better results.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Creator marketing ROI is in crisis. Joseph Perello, CEO of Props, explains how to transform creator content into a performance channel by blending human storytelling with paid media precision. He reveals why scaling individual creators (rather than expanding creator volume) delivers better results, and demonstrates how owned media can drive measurable business outcomes beyond traditional vanity metrics.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Demand creation vs. demand capture: which podcast strategy wins? Joe Perello, CEO of Props and former NYC CMO, shares his expertise on turning creator marketing into a performance channel. He explains why brand-owned content is the new frontier for predictable marketing outcomes, demonstrates how to blend creator authenticity with paid media precision, and reveals techniques for converting podcast listeners into qualified leads without relying on traditional metrics.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Performance marketing or influencer partnerships? Joe Perello, CEO of Props, reveals how smart marketers are blending creator content with paid media precision. His approach transforms creator marketing into a true performance channel by maintaining full accountability for business results rather than chasing viral hits. Perello demonstrates how owned media content delivers authentic engagement while providing the targeting capabilities and measurable outcomes of traditional performance marketing.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Content marketing remains unmeasurable and "mushy" for most CMOs. Joe Perello, CEO of Props and former NYC CMO, shares how to transform creator marketing into a performance channel with measurable outcomes. He reveals techniques for achieving 55-65% open rates across client programs and explains why authentically integrated brand content consistently outperforms traditional advertising when paired with precise targeting and clear calls to action.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Creator marketing needs a performance-driven approach. Joseph Perello, CEO of Props, shares how his company transforms owned media into a measurable marketing channel that delivers predictable outcomes. He explains the strategic balance between video and image content for different marketing objectives, why traditional vanity metrics fall short, and how to blend creator authenticity with paid media precision to drive actionable results.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Traditional ads are failing while marketing budgets shrink. Joe Perello, CEO of Props, explains how to transform creator marketing into a measurable performance channel by hosting authentic content on your own website. His approach blends creator storytelling with paid social distribution, creating efficient retargeting pools that drive conversions while simultaneously improving performance across all marketing channels. The strategy positions brand content as a direct response mechanism, leveraging the brand halo effect to systematically lower customer acquisition costs over time.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

First-party data strategies can backfire without privacy considerations. Graham Mudd, SVP of Product at Anonym (Mozilla), shares his expertise at the intersection of analytics and privacy-preserving advertising technology. He explains the middle ground between oversharing customer data and being too conservative with valuable first-party information, while exploring how synthetic data and AI-driven approaches can maximize targeting effectiveness without compromising user privacy.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Privacy-friendly targeting is becoming essential for marketers. Graham Mudd, SVP of Product at Anonym (Mozilla), shares his journey from Meta VP to founding a privacy-focused adtech startup. He explains how technologies developed in highly regulated industries like healthcare and financial services can be adapted for digital advertising, enabling high-performing campaigns while preserving user privacy and complying with increasing global regulations.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Privacy-friendly targeting remains elusive despite new technologies. Graham Mudd, SVP of Product at Anonym (Mozilla), brings expertise from leadership roles at Meta, Comscore, and Yahoo to address this challenge. He explains why clean rooms aren't inherently private without proper methodologies, clarifies the FTC's position on confidential computing practices, and demonstrates how privacy-preserving technologies can actually improve targeting results rather than simply adding complexity.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Privacy-friendly targeting is reshaping digital advertising. Graham Mudd, SVP of Product at Anonym (Mozilla), shares his expertise in developing technologies that preserve privacy while delivering performance. He explains how behavioral targeting can outperform contextual approaches when implemented with privacy-preserving methods, and why first-party data remains a valuable behavioral goldmine without compromising user privacy.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Privacy-friendly ad targeting is getting harder as cookies disappear. Graham Mudd, SVP of Product at Anonym (Mozilla), shares how privacy-preserving technologies can actually improve targeting results. Marketers can leverage first-party data using advanced machine learning techniques to find lookalike audiences without sharing customer data with ad platforms. This approach delivers approximately 30% better efficiency in finding converters compared to broad targeting, while maintaining compliance with evolving privacy regulations across different markets.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

AI expertise has evolved dramatically since ChatGPT's launch. Joyce Gordon, Head of AI at Amperity, shares how her role transformed from backend machine learning specialist to cross-functional product strategist shaping AI-first experiences. She discusses techniques for reimagining entire platforms with AI capabilities, designing interfaces for less technical users, and leveraging unified customer data to power personalized marketing experiences.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Customer data fragmentation creates personalization challenges. Joyce Gordon, Head of AI at Amperity, explains how identity resolution agents unify disparate customer data across online and offline touchpoints. The technology reconciles multiple identifiers to create cohesive customer profiles, enabling brands to deliver personalized experiences based on comprehensive customer history and preferences regardless of interaction channel.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Should C-suite or employees lead AI adoption? Joyce Gordon, Head of AI at Amperity, explains why both leadership and frontline staff must understand AI capabilities for organizational success. She discusses how executives should provide guidance on appropriate AI use while empowering individual contributors who best understand specific use cases. Gordon shares strategies for balancing top-down direction with bottom-up implementation to transform customer experience through unified data and AI personalization.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Who should integrate AI into your product? Joyce Gordon, Head of AI at Amperity, shares her expertise on AI-driven personalization and customer identity resolution. She explains why product and engineering teams should handle technical implementation while business teams should identify use cases, and outlines how unified customer data creates the foundation for effective AI personalization strategies that drive measurable revenue impact. Show NotesConnect With:Joyce Gordon: Website // LinkedInThe MarTech Podcast: Email // LinkedIn // TwitterBenjamin Shapiro: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

AI personalization requires unified customer identity data. Joyce Gordon, Head of AI at Amperity, explains how brands are moving from broad segments to micro-segments using generative AI. She outlines the critical role of identity resolution in creating personalized experiences, demonstrates how Model Context Protocol (MCP) servers enable data integration across systems, and shares practical frameworks for implementing AI personalization with proper evaluation mechanisms. Show NotesConnect With:Joyce Gordon: Website // LinkedInThe MarTech Podcast: Email // LinkedIn // TwitterBenjamin Shapiro: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Integrating AI into your martech stack requires agility. Greg Kihlström, principal of The Agile Brand and advisor to companies like Adidas and Toyota, shares his expertise on agile marketing technology implementation. His playbook emphasizes assembling the right team, setting clear goals, working iteratively to achieve quick wins, and implementing regular retrospectives to continuously improve AI performance and processes. Show Notes Connect With:Greg Kihlström: Website // LinkedInThe MarTech Podcast: Email // LinkedIn // TwitterBenjamin Shapiro: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

AI adoption requires strategic evaluation of existing tools. Greg Kihlström, principal of The Agile Brand, shares expertise on implementing agile approaches to marketing technology operations. He recommends thoroughly understanding current martech capabilities before investing in new AI solutions, as many existing platforms are rapidly incorporating AI features that marketers may be underutilizing. Show Notes Connect With:Greg Kihlström: Website // LinkedInThe MarTech Podcast: Email // LinkedIn // TwitterBenjamin Shapiro: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Most marketing teams are underutilizing their martech stacks today. Greg Kihlström, principal of The Agile Brand, shares how applying agile principles can maximize the value of existing marketing technology investments. He advocates for fully leveraging platform capabilities rather than using minimal features across multiple tools, which reduces integration costs and improves data accessibility. Kihlström emphasizes the importance of continuous improvement and regularly questioning current processes to right-size technology stacks for optimal performance. Show Notes Connect With:Greg Kihlström: Website // LinkedInThe MarTech Podcast: Email // LinkedIn // TwitterBenjamin Shapiro: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Agile processes often deliver better ROI than new martech tools. Greg Kihlström, principal of The Agile Brand and advisor to companies like Adidas and Toyota, shares his expertise on implementing agile approaches to marketing technology. He emphasizes establishing good measurement frameworks before adding new tools, creating agreement on success metrics, and developing cyclical workflows that prioritize process improvements over constant technology acquisition. Show Notes Connect With:Greg Kihlström: Website // LinkedInThe MarTech Podcast: Email // LinkedIn // TwitterBenjamin Shapiro: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Most marketers use less than half their MarTech stack's capabilities. Greg Kihlström, principal of The Agile Brand, shares how to apply Agile methodologies to maximize technology investments. His approach includes working in two-week sprints to test hypotheses, creating cross-functional squads that break down departmental silos, and measuring success through time-to-value metrics rather than just planning documents. Show Notes Connect With:Greg Kihlström: Website // LinkedInThe MarTech Podcast: Email // LinkedIn // TwitterBenjamin Shapiro: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

AI is reshaping advertising roles and responsibilities. Kevan Yalowitz, Global Software and Platform Lead at Accenture, examines which positions face disruption as agentic AI becomes mainstream. He discusses how NotebookLM and similar tools are transforming basic research functions, while emphasizing that technology-savvy professionals who leverage AI will thrive regardless of their position in the organization.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

AI is reshaping the advertising landscape. Kevan Yalowitz, Global Software and Platform Lead at Accenture, shares his comparative analysis of leading AI models including ChatGPT, Claude, and Gemini. He demonstrates how each platform excels in different use cases—Gemini for broad data integration, ChatGPT for deep reasoning and research, and Claude for nuanced copywriting—revealing how marketing teams can leverage complementary AI strengths rather than relying on a single solution.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Software pricing models are being revolutionized by AI. Kevan Yalowitz, Global Software and Platform Lead at Accenture, explains how agentic architecture is shifting software from seat-based pricing to value and outcome-based models. He details why this transformation represents a revolutionary rather than evolutionary change, creating a disconnect between what software companies currently offer and what IT consumers increasingly demand.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

AI is transforming the $750 billion advertising landscape. Kevan Yalowitz, Senior Managing Director at Accenture, explains how generative AI is revolutionizing creative production, audience targeting, and content relevance for advertisers. He reveals how AI-powered tools are enabling smaller businesses to produce high-quality creative at scale, discusses the shifting balance of power between platforms and advertisers, and examines how consumer trust increases when AI-generated content is properly disclosed.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Is ABM for B2C marketing viable? Nadia Davis, VP of Marketing at CaliberMind, shares her expertise in designing non-conventional ABM strategies built on MarOps excellence. She explains how to transform failing ABM programs into revenue generators, emphasizing the critical importance of data management before implementing new marketing technologies. Davis offers practical solutions for the "marketing data dumpster fire" that plagues B2B marketers trying to connect marketing activities to sales pipeline.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Should your CMO report to sales? Nadia Davis, VP of Marketing at CaliberMind, debates the organizational structure challenges facing SaaS companies. She argues against placing marketing under revenue leadership, explaining how short-term revenue focus can undermine long-term brand building initiatives. Davis shares insights on transforming failing ABM programs into revenue-generating systems through strategic MarOps excellence and meaningful sales pipeline contributions.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

ABM programs often fail to deliver revenue results. Nadia Davis, VP of Marketing at CaliberMind, shares her expertise in transforming account-based marketing strategies into effective revenue generators. She breaks down the five most critical three-letter acronyms for B2B marketers today—ABM, CRM, MQA, MQL, and CAC—while explaining how to build holistic omni-channel ABM frameworks that contribute meaningfully to sales pipelines.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Is AI ready for end-to-end ABM campaigns? Nadia Davis, VP of Marketing at CaliberMind, shares her expertise in designing non-conventional omnichannel ABM strategies for SMB organizations. She explains why autonomous AI-driven ABM execution remains several years away, highlighting current data integration challenges that would persist even with AI agents. The discussion explores the technical possibilities of using LLMs with custom information "brains" and integration hooks like Zapier to potentially automate targeted account campaigns.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

ABM strategies often fail due to poor measurement and data unification. Nadia Davis, VP of Marketing at CaliberMind, shares her expertise in building effective account-based marketing frameworks from scratch in SMB organizations. She explains how to transform failing ABM programs by aligning sales and marketing KPIs, evolving metrics from reach to revenue over time, and implementing a phased approach that starts with small pilot programs before scaling. Show NotesConnect With: Nadia Davis: Website // LinkedInThe MarTech Podcast: Email // LinkedIn // TwitterBenjamin Shapiro: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Is AI hype reaching its peak or just beginning? Tom Chavez, Founding General Partner at super{set} and serial entrepreneur with exits to Salesforce and Microsoft, challenges the notion of an "AI arms race" as misleading. He distinguishes between compound AI systems that integrate multiple specialized tools versus truly autonomous agents, arguing we're still in the early stages of development while emphasizing practical applications that deliver measurable business impact over theoretical capabilities.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

AI hype is creating a marketing technology minefield. Tom Chavez, Founding General Partner at super{set}, shares his expertise from building companies acquired by Salesforce and Microsoft. He reveals how to identify AI posers versus genuine innovators, emphasizes the importance of systems thinking over technical expertise, and explains why vertical AI applications offer better business opportunities than building foundational models.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

First-party data collection vs. synthetic audience generation presents a critical marketing dilemma. Tom Chavez, Founding General Partner at super{set} and serial entrepreneur with exits to Salesforce and Microsoft, shares his expertise on navigating this challenge. He explains why the "AI arms race" may be misleading marketers and demonstrates how combining first-party data as seedlings for synthetic audience creation delivers superior results while maintaining data integrity.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Is the AI arms race a distraction? Tom Chavez, Founding General Partner at super{set}, brings his experience building companies acquired by Salesforce and Microsoft to examine AI's real business impact. He explains why specialized AI tools may outperform monolithic platforms, challenges current AI valuations, and shares practical strategies for identifying AI applications that deliver measurable ROI rather than following hype cycles.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The AI arms race is a head fake. Tom Chavez, Founding General Partner at super{set}, shares his expertise as a serial entrepreneur who has built companies acquired by Salesforce and Microsoft. He explains how marketers can leverage synthetic data to maximize efficiency with smaller, high-quality datasets rather than massive volumes of dirty information. Tom also reveals how AI orchestration can transform marketing workflows by automating repetitive tasks while augmenting human creativity rather than replacing it.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Benjamin Shapiro and Matthew McGrory, Co-founder and CEO of Arwen AI, tackle a strategic question facing modern marketers: when launching an AI-powered social media strategy, should brands prioritize algorithmic optimization or influencer partnerships? Matthew leans toward influencer relationships, arguing that human endorsements carry more weight than trying to game ever-evolving platform algorithms. Benjamin offers a balanced view, framing influencers as a short-term growth lever and algorithmic strategies as a long-term brand asset—comparing it to the difference between paid media and SEO. They also explore the broader definition of influence, highlighting how founders, customers, and even case studies can serve as powerful credibility boosters.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Host Benjamin Shapiro and guest Matthew McGrory, Co-founder and CEO of Arwen AI, debate a fundamental marketing dilemma: should brands prioritize customer engagement metrics or brand visibility KPIs on social media? Matthew champions engagement as the core purpose of social platforms, especially for B2B startups operating on tight budgets. Benjamin offers a nuanced take, noting that brand visibility is essential for early-stage companies seeking awareness before engagement can follow. Their conversation explores how factors like company size, growth stage, and B2B vs. B2C models influence strategy, while also touching on creative, low-cost visibility tactics—like branded sun hats at Cannes Lions—that can boost presence without breaking the bank.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Host Benjamin Shapiro challenges Matthew McGrory, Co-founder and CEO of Arwen AI, to a playful rapid-fire round: name as many social media platforms as possible in 30 seconds. The result is a lighthearted exchange that underscores the generational and professional lenses through which people experience digital media. While Matthew humorously leans on his teenage children's usage patterns, Benjamin rattles off a diverse list of platforms including TikTok, YouTube Shorts, Discord, Reddit, and more. This brief but lively segment highlights the expanding and fragmented nature of the social media ecosystem—an environment where staying current is both a personal and professional challenge.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this lightning round episode of the MarTech Podcast, host Benjamin Shapiro is joined by Matthew McGrory, Co-founder and CEO of Arwen AI, to break down the rapidly evolving role of artificial intelligence in social media marketing. Matthew describes the 2025 social media landscape as “fractured,” pointing to the overwhelming array of AI tools and niche use cases emerging across the industry. They discuss the challenges brands face in choosing the right solutions amidst a crowded market, the slow adaptation of large enterprises, and the opportunities startups have to deliver agile, targeted technologies. Listeners will gain insights into how fragmentation in AI and social media platforms can lead to both innovation and decision fatigue—and why flexibility and niche specialization are key for modern marketers.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode of the MarTech Podcast, host Benjamin Shapiro sits down with Matthew McGrory, Co-founder and CEO of Arwen AI, to explore how artificial intelligence is transforming social media management. They discuss the growing importance of real-time brand engagement, the shift from broadcasting to conversational marketing, and how AI tools like retrieval-augmented generation are enabling personalized customer interactions at scale. Matthew shares insights into identifying meaningful social conversations, managing toxicity, and amplifying positive sentiment to drive brand engagement. Actionable strategies include leveraging sentiment analysis, implementing clear community guidelines, and combining AI with human oversight to maintain authenticity and protect brand reputation. Show NotesConnect With: Matthew McGrory: Website // LinkedInThe MarTech Podcast: Email // LinkedIn // TwitterBenjamin Shapiro: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Founder & CEO of Harkey Group, Scott Harkey, delves into the intricacies of finding your niche market. Discover how identifying and targeting a specific market segment can lead to more effective marketing strategies and better business outcomes. Gain insights into the importance of niche marketing and how it can set your business apart in a competitive landscape. Show NotesConnect With: Scott Harkey: Website // LinkedInThe MarTech Podcast: Email // LinkedIn // TwitterBenjamin Shapiro: Website // LinkedIn // TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.