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SaaStr 807: Snowflake's CEO on the AI Data Cloud, Partner Strategy, and What's Next Join Sridhar Ramaswamy, CEO of Snowflake, and Jeremy Burton, CEO of Observe, in a comprehensive discussion led by SaaStr CEO & Founder, Jason Lemkin. Discover the inner workings of Snowflake's Board, the dynamics of strategic partnerships, and the evolving role of AI in data management. Learn how Snowflake aims to be the AI Data Cloud and how Observe integrates with Snowflake to provide scalable analytics. With detailed insights into the partnership strategies, future technological trends, and success stories, this conversation offers a blueprint for leveraging AI and data to drive business value. Don't miss out on the valuable lessons and future predictions shared by these industry leaders. ----------------- This episode of the SaaStr podcast is sponsored by: Attio This episode is brought to you by Attio — the AI-native CRM. Connect your email, and Attio instantly builds a powerful CRM - with every company, contact and interaction you've ever had. Get 15% off your first year at https://attio.com/saastr ------------------ This episode of the SaaStr podcast is sponsored by: Attention.com Tired of listening to hours of sales calls? Recording is yesterday's game. Attention.com unleashes an army of AI sales agents that auto-update your CRM, build custom sales decks, spot cross-sell signals, and score calls before your coffee's cold. Teams like BambooHR and Scale AI already automate their Sales and RevOps using customer conversations. Step into the future at attention.com/saastr ------------------ Hey everyone, we just hosted 10,000 of you at the SaaStr Annual in the SF Bay Area, and now get ready, because SaaStr AI is heading to London! On December 2nd and 3rd, we're bringing SaaStr AI to the heart of Europe. This is your chance to connect with 2,500+ SaaS and AI executives, founders, and investors, all sharing the secrets to scaling in the age of AI. Whether you're a founder, a revenue leader, or an investor, SaaStr AI in London is where the future of SaaS meets the power of AI. And we just announced tickets and sponsorships, so don't wait! Head to SaaStrLondon.com to grab yours and join us this December in London. SaaStr AI in London —where SaaS meets AI, and the next wave of innovation begins. See you there!
In episode #288 of SaaS Metrics School, Ben Murray tackles a frequent mistake SaaS operators make when calculating Lifetime Value (LTV) — treating it as an aggregate rather than the point-in-time metric. Ben breaks down the correct formula, shares how to align it with gross revenue retention, and explains when LTV (and LTV to CAC) should be used SaaS businesses. What You'll Learn: Why LTV is a point-in-time estimate, not a company-wide average The correct formula for LTV in SaaS: Cohort ARPA × Gross Margin ÷ Churn How to choose the right churn input using gross revenue retention When LTV to CAC is reliable vs. misleading based on your sales motion (SMB, Mid-Market, Enterprise) Common pitfalls when using LTV in low-volume enterprise models Key SaaS Metrics Covered: LTV (Lifetime Value) LTV to CAC Ratio Gross Revenue Retention (GRR) Cohort ARPA / ACV Churn measurement strategy (trailing 3 vs. 6 months) Who Should Listen: SaaS CFOs, founders, marketers, and RevOps professionals looking to improve financial modeling and SaaS efficiency metrics — especially if you rely on paid acquisition or track LTV to CAC closely. Resources Mentioned: SaaS Metrics Foundation Course: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/the-saas-metrics-foundation Free SaaS Metrics Tools: TheSaaSCFO.com Subscribe to Ben's SaaS newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-page Like What You Hear? Please leave a rating and review to help this podcast reach more SaaS professionals who want to build metrics-driven businesses.
Is outbound dead? Not exactly. But it is changing fast.In this episode, Raul and Toni break down why the old outbound playbook is failing, where it still works, and how AI is reshaping the SDR role. We get into why brute force cold calls and emails are hitting their limits, why connect rates keep dropping, and where smart teams are still seeing success.We also talk about the rise of “new world SDRs,” how AI tools are changing prospecting, and how to use spiffs to actually build skills, not just spike activity. If you lead a sales team or run outbound, this one's for you.Never miss a new episode! Join our newsletter at revenueformula.substack.com(00:00) - Introduction (02:09) - Problems with the old world SDR approach (12:31) - The role of SDRs in the age of AI (16:15) - What should SDRs do now? (25:26) - Using SPIFS to drive change (36:09) - Conclusion and final thoughts (37:25) - Up next: the real life of a CEO
Configure-Price-Quote (CPQ) platforms have come a long way from the days of spreadsheet formulas. In this conversation, host Chris Strom and RevOps strategist Joanne Cheng unpack where CPQ fits in a modern go-to-market stack, the problems it actually solves, and how new developments, such as AI-driven guidance, usage-basedbilling, and low-code extensibility, are reshaping the space.Listen in for:A clear-spoken CPQ primer: what it is, what it isn't, and the tipping points that signal it's time to adopt.Real-world patterns that demand more than manual quoting—think multi-currency deals, complex product bundles, or fast-moving self-serve funnels.Emerging trends for 2025, from composable quote-to-cash architectures to the rise of predictive discount recommendations.Candid lessons from recent rollouts—what sped things up, what slowed things down, and how alignment between the involved stakeholders make or break success.A myth-busting round (yes, spreadsheets can still play a supporting role).Whether you're revenue-ops-curious or knee-deep in a CPQevaluation, this episode offers a balanced, jargon-light look at the tech and the tactics behind smoother quoting flows.Grab your headphones, hit play, and enjoy the chat!
Why you should listenLearn how Kathryn scaled from solo freelancer to a strategic RevOps firm serving VC-backed SaaS companiesDiscover the real impact of AI on RevOps—and why data hygiene is more critical than everHear how Kathryn balances strategy, tech, and team building to retain clients for 18+ monthsSaaS companies grow fast—and Kathryn Castle knows how to keep their revenue operations from falling apart along the way. In this episode, she shares how she went from independent contractor to founder of Candybox, a RevOps and tech strategy firm serving B2B SaaS companies backed by VCs and PE firms.We talk about niching down, what's changed in RevOps over the last six years, and how AI is pushing more strategic conversations about data, integration, and platform selection. Kathryn also opens up about team building, long-term retainers, and the realities of consulting in fast-paced environments.About Kathryn CastleKathryn Castle is the founder of Candybox CRM, a RevOps consultancy that helps B2B tech scale-ups build clean, scalable go-to-market systems around Salesforce and HubSpot. Kathryn works remotely from Mexico, where she spends her free time catering to her five cats' whims and learning to dance salsa.Resources and LinksCandyboxcrm.comKathryn's LinkedIn profilePrevious episode: 615 - How to Use Twitter DMs to Book More B2B Sales Calls with Alex PeñuñuriCheck out more episodes of the Paul Higgins PodcastSubscribe to our YouTube channel: @PaulHigginsMentoringJoin our newsletterSuggested resources
SaaStr 806: How The Smartest Founders Are Already Winning with AI: SaaStr CEO Jason Lemkin on My First Million SaaStr CEO and Founder Jason Lemkin recently returned to HubSpot's My First Million Podcast with Sam Parr and Shaan Puri to do a deep dive on AI and SaaS. It was a fun one because we approached it more from a content creator and end-user perspective than from a software builder perspective. Together they discuss various applications of AI in content creation, customer support, and business advice, highlighting unexpected use cases and the potential for AI to surpass human capabilities. Jason also provides a candid look at the future of startups, the challenges of VC investment, and the evolving landscape of tech-driven by AI. Whether you're a startup founder, investor, or tech enthusiast, this episode is packed with valuable lessons and forward-thinking perspectives. ------------------ This episode of the SaaStr podcast is sponsored by: Attio This episode is brought to you by Attio — the AI-native CRM. Connect your email, and Attio instantly builds a powerful CRM - with every company, contact and interaction you've ever had. Get 15% off your first year at https://attio.com/saastr -------------------- This episode of the SaaStr podcast is sponsored by: Attention.com Tired of listening to hours of sales calls? Recording is yesterday's game. Attention.com unleashes an army of AI sales agents that auto-update your CRM, build custom sales decks, spot cross-sell signals, and score calls before your coffee's cold. Teams like BambooHR and Scale AI already automate their Sales and RevOps using customer conversations. Step into the future at attention.com/saastr --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In this episode, Justin Humphreys, Head of RevOps at Bright Network, explains why foundational RevOps decisions - like which CRM to use - can make or break a startup's growth. He shares insights from his telco roots, his move into marketing and CS ops, and why he's now offering early-stage companies free advice through RevOps Hub.
You've launched your CRM and the excitement for the new system is starting to fade. The honeymoon phase is over…now what? In this episode, Jess and Doug dive into the challenges that arise after the initial excitement of a new CRM launch fades. The discussion highlights practical strategies for maintaining user engagement, optimizing CRM usage, and ensuring sustained effectiveness within the sales and marketing processes.For updates on new episodes, follow us on:LinkedIn: Lift Enablement, Doug Davidoff, Jess CardenasSubscribe to our YouTube channel!You can access the show notes and watch the video version of the show on our page. Thanks for listening and remember to just say no to shitty RevOps!
On this episode of RevOps Unboxed, Sandy Robinson sits down with Ian Grace, Vice President of Sales at Ocrolus, to discuss how revenue operations can effectively align with sales leadership. They discuss alignment, territory planning, and sneaky CRM exports.
On this episode of RevOps Unboxed, Sandy sits down with Leore Spira, Director of Revenue Operations at Blink Ops.They discuss building a RevOps function from scratch, creating trust in an organisation, account-based "everything", and more!
On this episode of RevOps Unboxed, Sandy sits down with Keenan, CEO of A Sales Growth Company & Bestselling Author of Gap Selling. They discuss the ASG Revenue Speed model, the role frontline sales managers need to play in an organization, the keys to a good relationship between Ops and Enablement, and more.
On this episode of RevOps Unboxed, Sandy Robinson sits down with Anne Pao, Founder & CEO of Ignite Consulting. They discuss fractional RevOps, the importance of data and analytics, handoffs and creating a positive customer experience, the future of RevOps (and 'GTM Ops') and more. Listen now!
On this episode of RevOps Unboxed, Sandy sits down with Lonny Sternberg, RevOps and GTM leader.They discuss bottom-up vs. top-down RevOps approaches, the expanding scope of RevOps roles, the importance of frameworks, and more!
On this episode of RevOps Unboxed, Sandy sits down with Lindsey Procknow, GTM Specialist at Coefficient.They discuss the importance of data in dashboards, becoming a proactive advisor, transitioning into RevOps, and more!
On this episode of RevOps Unboxed, Sandy sits down with SK Ramakuru and Chris Hunter of MongoDB. The trio discuss build vs. buy decisions, the influence of AI on RevOps, program-based approaches to RevOps, and more.
In this episode of RevOps Unboxed, Sandy sits down with Tana Jackson, Global Director of Revenue Operations at Chronicle Heritage, where they discuss the true meaning of revenue operations. The conversation also covers how to stay agile, AI use cases, and diversity in RevOps.
On this episode of RevOps Unboxed, Sandy sits down with Olga Traskova, VP of Revenue Operations at Birdeye.They discuss why attribution can't be used to make life-or-death decisions, navigating Sales Ops challenges, RevOps reporting structure, and more!
On this episode of RevOps Unboxed, Sandy sits down with Dan Giovacchini, COO at Tango.They discuss the most important aspects of building a revenue engine, the influence of AI in RevOps, non-negotiables in GTM motions, and more This episode of RevOps Unboxed is brought to you in partnership with Tango.
Welcome to Season Three of RevOps Unboxed!
On this episode of RevOps Unboxed, Sandy Robinson sits down with Oscar Armas-Luy, to discuss how to best navigate the world of RevOps as an organization's first hire. They discuss maximizing the SDR function, understanding what organizations want and need from RevOps, achieving alignment and more!
SaaStr 805: CRO Confidential - 5 Ways AI Has Already Changed SaaS Sales Forever with Perplexity's CBO Dmitry Shevelenko. Hosted by Sam Blond. Join Sam Blond in the latest episode of CRO Confidential live from SaaStr Annual, featuring Dmitry Shevelenko, Chief Business Officer at Perplexity. Dive deep into how cutting-edge AI can transform your go-to-market strategies, sales processes, and organizational efficiency. Explore key topics like leveraging AI for demand generation, advanced meeting preparation, pipeline management, and more. Learn from Dmitry's expertise on integrating AI to accelerate business growth and gain insights into Perplexity's innovative approach to AI-powered sales. Perfect for tech founders, sales leaders, and AI enthusiasts looking to stay ahead in the rapidly evolving sales and customer acquisition landscape. ------- Hey everyone, we just hosted 10,000 of you at the SaaStr Annual in the SF Bay Area, and now get ready, because SaaStr AI is heading to London! On December 2nd and 3rd, we're bringing the SaaStr AI to the heart of Europe. This is your chance to connect with 2,000+ SaaS and AI executives, founders, and investors, all sharing the secrets to scaling in the age of AI. Whether you're a founder, a revenue leader, or an investor, SaaStr AI in London is where the future of SaaS meets the power of AI. And we just announced tickets and sponsorships, so don't wait! Head to SaaStrLondon.com to grab yours and join us this December in London. SaaStr AI in London —where SaaS meets AI, and the next wave of innovation begins. See you there! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This episode of the SaaStr podcast is sponsored by: Attio This episode is brought to you by Attio — the AI-native CRM. Connect your email, and Attio instantly builds a powerful CRM - with every company, contact and interaction you've ever had. Get 15% off your first year at https://attio.com/saastr -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This episode of the SaaStr podcast is sponsored by: Attention.com Tired of listening to hours of sales calls? Recording is yesterday's game. Attention.com unleashes an army of AI sales agents that auto-update your CRM, build custom sales decks, spot cross-sell signals, and score calls before your coffee's cold. Teams like BambooHR and Scale AI already automate their Sales and RevOps using customer conversations. Step into the future at attention.com/saastr --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In this episode 59 of PodSpot, we sit down with Ed Turner, Website Manager at Allica Bank, to explore how HubSpot CMS is driving smarter, faster digital growth. Ed shares how Allica Bank built a standout digital experience for established businesses often overlooked by traditional lenders and increased conversions by 30–40% in the process. From A/B testing to stakeholder alignment, Ed unpacks the tools, tactics, and mindset behind a high-performing website that adapts quickly and delivers real value. If you work in digital strategy, web operations, or business transformation, this episode is packed with practical takeaways to sharpen your approach. Key discussion points: 05:15 - Ed Turner's Journey to Allica Bank 12:33 - Website Conversion Optimisation Through AB Testing 17:20 - The Role of HubSpot CMS in UX 20:50 - Improving Website Conversion Rates Through Redesign 23:30 - Challenges and Triumphs in Digital Strategy Want to learn more about RevOps and HubSpot? Visit our website: https://www.karman.digital/services/revops-services Follow us on LinkedIn Listen on Spotify Listen on Apple Podcasts
We got our hands on Jacco van der Kooij's latest GTM playbook. The one he's only been sharing behind closed doors at high-ticket, invite-only events. And yes, we're leaking it. This isn't just a few new tactics. It's a complete shift in how revenue leaders think about growth. No more chasing leads at all costs. No more funnels that fall apart at scale. Instead, it's about turning your users into your biggest growth engine. We dig into what's changing, what companies like Notion and Snowflake are doing differently, and why this approach might be the healthiest way to grow in B2B right now. Never miss a new episode! join our newsletter at revenueformula.substack.com (00:00) - Introduction (01:24) - Exploring the New Playbook (08:04) - Activating Your User Base (23:01) - The tiered users ecosystem (29:43) - Cohort-Based Events (36:56) - Human-Led Growth: The Power of Real Connections (43:21) - The New Playbook: Integrating Sales and Success (51:23) - Up next: The SDR Playbook
In this episode of RevOps Champions, John Plumley, Director of Revenue Operations at Tri State HVAC, joins Brendon Dennewill to discuss the intersection of technology and process in scaling a traditional B2B business. John provides insight into Tri State HVAC's unique position as a commercial HVAC manufacturers representative focused on large projects and key relationships within the Philadelphia region. With a mechanical engineering background and decades of sales experience, John shares how his long-standing fascination with CRMs led him to transition from sales into a full RevOps role, where he drives both digital transformation and cultural change within the organization.The conversation delves into the real-world challenges and triumphs of adopting new technologies like HubSpot CRM, integrating operations with accounting, and implementing smarter, data-driven processes. A significant focus is placed on the human side of change—navigating resistance, fostering buy-in, and the importance of mapping out and communicating process improvements before rolling out new solutions. John and Brendon explore how aligning people, data, and technology not only streamlines internal operations but creates a fresh competitive advantage in an industry that's traditionally slow to change.Looking ahead, the episode highlights opportunities for leveraging AI and knowledge management to enhance both customer and employee experiences. John discusses the value of sharing expertise through podcasts, video content, and smart knowledge bases, meeting evolving customer expectations and scaling relationships in a modern way. The key takeaway is clear: success with RevOps is about progress and learning, prioritizing customer experience, and empowering teams with the right tools and mindset—practical advice for any leader considering their own digital transformation journey.Find more at revopschampions.com
Sales Enablement in staffing is no longer a tactical side function, it's the engine of your entire go-to-market strategy. In this eye-opening episode, Avner Baruch (Author of Project Moneyball) shares how top staffing and recruiting firms are transforming enablement from “content dumping” into measurable impact through coaching, role practice, and feedback loops. This video will inspire you to re-evaluate your GTM systems and explore enablement through the lens of performance coaching and strategic execution. In This Episode: What Sales Enablement in Staffing really means today How to build a go-to-market strategy aligned with sales motion The hidden cost of relying solely on content (and what to do instead) Why role practice and feedback loops are critical for sales acceleration How elite teams reinforce skills—without blowing their budget The enablement tech stack that makes it all possible Avner's Project Moneyball methodology for enabling outcomes across the customer lifecycle Whether you're launching a new GTM motion or trying to reverse stagnant revenue, the insights here are built to drive impact across your customer lifecycle. Timestamps: 00:43 - What is sales enablement? A Moneyball analogy 02:57 - Sales enablement in startups vs. enterprises 03:45 - Why the best companies go beyond content 04:55 - The economic pressure fueling enablement evolution 06:43 - Common pitfalls: Content without context 08:51 - Why content is only half the battle 10:53 - The power of role practice and daily sales routines 12:55 - Real-world staffing challenges and playbook creation 16:29 - Why leaders avoid role practice—and how to fix it 20:52 - Leveraging AI for sales coaching 22:30 - Shifting outdated staffing habits 25:12 - Consistency beats intensity in sales enablement 27:26 - Misalignment of seller skills and roles 31:59 - Coachability and cultural fit in hiring 34:17 - The ideal sales enablement hire 37:01 - Content graveyards vs. actionable insights 41:36 - Meet Avner Baruch and Project Moneyball 44:26 - Moneyball methodology for enablement ROI 46:30 - Avner's favorite book: Crossing the Chasm About the Speakers: Brad Bialy is host of Take the Stage and InSights, two of the leading podcast for the staffing industry, presented by Haley Marketing. He has a deep passion for helping staffing and recruiting firms achieve their business objectives through strategic digital marketing. For over a decade, Brad has developed a proven track record of motivating and educating staffing industry professionals at over 100 industry-specific conferences and webinars. As a visionary leader, Brad has helped guide the comprehensive marketing strategy of more than 300 staffing and recruiting firms. His keen eye for strategy and delivery has resulted in multiple industry award-winning social media campaigns, making him a sought-after expert and speaker in the industry. As an executive GTM and Enablement leader, Avner Baruch has built and led GTM, Sales Enablement and RevOps functions from the ground up for leading Startups such as Walkme, Imperva-Incapsula, Rapyd and more notable SaaS businesses. As a consultant, member of Advisory Boards and Design Partners, he has helped entrepreneurs and scaling startups implement and reinforce their sales methodologies, fine-tune their Product-Market Fit, design, build and scale their selling motion. In 2020 he founded Project Moneyball (a GTM consulting firm) to help early-stage startups and scaling businesses overcome growth challenges. He is a certified sales trainer holding a B.Eng with Honors in Electrical Engineering & Physics from Coventry University (UK) and the Max Planck Institute (France). Offers Heard in this Episode: 30 minutes of strategic marketing consultation with Brad Bialy: https://bit.ly/Bialy30 Special Offers! Our Best Savings of 2025: https://bit.ly/bialyoffer What if your back office fueled your growth instead of holding it back? TRICOM makes it happen! From payroll and billing to accounting and asset based lending, they clear the roadblocks and power your path forward. Your team gets paid, your cash flow stays steady and your business scales like never before. TRICOM doesn't just support you, they set you up to soar. Visit https://www.TRICOM.com to learn more.
Our host, Jeff Ignacio, sits down with Rich Bishop, founder of Midgame Consulting, to talk all things RevOps. From his unexpected leap into consulting to transforming go-to-market strategies at PE-backed and traditional companies. Rich shares what makes change management stick, how to win over skeptical sales teams, and why CRM adoption is about more than just data hygiene. If you're navigating complex orgs, outdated processes, or just trying to make RevOps less of a “flavour of the month,” this one's for you.
SaaStr 804: AI and The Future of Sales, Marketing & CS with HubSpot CEO Yamini Rangan Join us as HubSpot's CEO Yamini Rangan delves into the dynamic landscape of SaaS, discussing the rapid transformations driven by AI. In this insightful session, Yamini shares her experience with pivoting HubSpot's roadmap after the advent of ChatGPT, the increasing role of AI in product development, and the evolving customer expectations. Gain valuable insights into creating urgency, leveraging AI to enhance productivity, and the importance of a unified partner ecosystem. Perfect for entrepreneurs and SaaS founders, this episode underscores the necessity of adaptability, curiosity, and a growth mindset in today's tech industry. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This episode of the SaaStr podcast is sponsored by: Attio This episode is brought to you by Attio — the AI-native CRM. Connect your email, and Attio instantly builds a powerful CRM - with every company, contact and interaction you've ever had. Get 15% off your first year at https://attio.com/saastr -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This episode of the SaaStr podcast is sponsored by: Attention.com Tired of listening to hours of sales calls? Recording is yesterday's game. Attention.com unleashes an army of AI sales agents that auto-update your CRM, build custom sales decks, spot cross-sell signals, and score calls before your coffee's cold. Teams like BambooHR and Scale AI already automate their Sales and RevOps using customer conversations. Step into the future at attention.com/saastr --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Get 90 days of Fellow's AI meeting assistant at fellow.app/cooIn this episode, Doug and I cover:Why “AI agent” is more than just a buzzwordThe difference between deflection and resolution in AI-powered supportHow Kustomer structures RevOps, GTM, and forecastingWhat it means to operate with high-context vs. generic playbooksHow Doug thinks about team structure, ownership, and cross-functional clarityPredictions for agent-to-agent communication: “Your AI agent will talk to my AI agent—and we'll both just read the summary.”Timestamps:(02:00) Defining agentic AI in customer service(06:30) From deflection to resolution: Kustomer's AI in action(10:15) How AI is changing the org chart and team design(14:00) The problem with low-context playbooks(17:45) RevOps structuring and ownership(22:00) Forecasting: visibility vs. execution(27:00) AI tooling, integration, and buyer psychology(31:00) Agent-to-agent interactions and AI futurecasting(34:30) What Doug's watching next in ops and AI LinksDoug Hanna on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/douglashanna1/Kustomer - https://www.kustomer.com/Michael Koenig on LinkedIn - https://linkedin.com/in/michael-koenig514Between Two COO's - https://betweentwocoos.com
In this episode of "The Death of Vanilla Podcast," host Stephen Burkhart sits down with Katarina, a revenue operations expert who recently launched her own consulting firm after years in Silicon Valley startups. Discover how she's helping SaaS startups implement enterprise-level revenue strategies without the enterprise-level costs.Katarina shares her journey from immigrant to tech startup veteran to founder, and explains her unique approach to RevOps that includes bringing product teams into the revenue conversation—a game-changing perspective most early-stage companies miss. Learn why your accounting and CRM should tell the same story, how to identify which 20% of efforts will give you 80% of results, and why she focuses on delivering "painkillers" that solve immediate problems before introducing "vitamins" for long-term growth.The conversation explores surprising insights about LinkedIn's effectiveness for B2B lead generation (it's where 100% of her clients come from!), why authentic networking still matters, and her biggest revelation since launching: RevOps systems are completely useless without a culture of accountability. If you're a founder looking to accelerate revenue growth, avoid costly mistakes, and make data-driven decisions about your product roadmap, this episode offers practical strategies you can implement immediately.Connect with Katarina on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katarina-lujic-advisor/Reach out to him on Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevenburkhart/or by email Steven@stevenburkhart.comBurkhart Creative AgencyHttp://www.burkhartcreativeagency.comSpotlight Socialhttp://www.thespotlightsocial.com
Why are so many SaaS executives struggling to get hired?In this episode, Raul and Toni dive deep into the surprising stat that 25% of Pavilion members—many of them seasoned SaaS execs—are currently “on the bench.” We explore what's really going on in the market, how layoffs and short stints are damaging even top-tier CVs, and why CROs are applying for AE roles just to stay in the game. We also talk mental health, the rise of “consulting” as a placeholder, and whether now might be the time to walk away from SaaS altogether. If you're a founder, CRO, or GTM leader, this one's for you. Never miss a new episode! join our newsletter at revenueformula.substack.com (00:00) - Introduction (02:18) - 25% of Pavilion execs "on the bench" (03:41) - The SaaS recession (09:08) - Job hunting and mental health issues (13:48) - Going into consulting (18:26) - Leave tech behind? (22:01) - Private equity and VC roles (24:48) - Rethinking CV evaluations (28:09) - Conclusion (29:31) - Up next: Jacco's new playbook
Neste episódio do Vamos de Vendas, exploramos uma abordagem cada vez mais estratégica nas operações B2B: o Revenue Enablement como motor de crescimento. Para essa conversa, recebemos Fayola Damaceno, sócia-diretora da Loboh Consultoria de Vendas, com mais de 17 anos de experiência transformando times comerciais em máquinas de conversão.
This week on GTM Live, Carolyn and Trevor unpack the 9 go-to-market dysfunctions quietly derailing growth at even the most ambitious B2B companies.They dig into why so many teams, despite big budgets, headcount, and tools, are still struggling to drive efficient growth. Spoiler: it's not the people. It's the system.You'll hear why fragmented data, financial secrecy, and siloed ownership are causing misalignment across marketing, sales, finance, and CS. And what it takes to rebuild GTM as a unified, accountable system.Trevor breaks down the real role of RevOps (and why it's failing in most orgs), while Carolyn makes the case for ditching vanity metrics and rethinking how you measure and invest in growth.If you're questioning whether your CAC is sustainable or your GTM truly aligned, this one's for you.Key topics in this episode:The 9 biggest GTM dysfunctions hurting growthWhy RevOps struggles to drive real impactHow to align GTM and finance on a shared data modelThe danger of over-investing in top-of-funnelWhy teams fix symptoms, not systemsWhat it actually takes to build a full-funnel growth engineThis episode is powered by Passetto.We help high-growth companies build the GTM system they should've had all along: measurable, connected, and built for real growth. We integrate your CRM, financials, and GTM data to uncover what's working, what's not, and what to do next.Part platform, part advisory. All about clarity.Learn more at passetto.com.
SaaStr 803: AI, Sales + GTM in 2025/2026: This Really Changes Everything with SaaStr CEO and Founder Jason Lemkin and Owner CRO Kyle Norton In this engaging session, we dive deep into how AI is transforming the sales landscape, featuring a conversation between SaaStr CEO and Founder Jason Lemkin and Kyle Norton, the Chief Revenue Officer of Owner, a company recently valued at over a billion dollars. The discussion covers Kyle's background and his insights into implementing AI in sales operations, the challenges and benefits of using AI tools, and the critical importance of a curiosity-driven approach to technology among sales leaders. Key topics include the integration of AI in SMB sales, the future of sales professional roles, and the necessity of continuous improvement and adoption of AI tools. The conversation also touches on the need for creating a seamless customer journey through AI and human interface, managing hybrid teams of AI and sales reps, and the potential for AI to close deals. Essential for anyone interested in the intersection of AI and sales, this session offers practical strategies and forward-looking perspectives. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of listening to hours of sales calls? Recording is yesterday's game. Attention.com unleashes an army of AI sales agents that auto-update your CRM, build custom sales decks, spot cross-sell signals, and score calls before your coffee's cold. Teams like BambooHR and Scale AI already automate their Sales and RevOps using customer conversations. Step into the future at attention.com/saastr -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Do you know what would make your customer service helpdesk dramatically better? Dumping it and switching to Intercom. But, youʼre not quite ready to make that change. We get it! Thatʼs why Fin, the worldʼs leading AI customer service agent, is now available on every helpdesk. Fin can instantly resolve up to 80% of your tickets, Which makes your customers happier. And you can get off the customer service rep hiring treadmill. Fin by Intercom. Named the #1 AI Agent in G2ʼs Winter Report. Learn more at : inter.com/saastr --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In this episode of The RevOps Show, hosts Doug and Jess delve into the concept of acceleration cycles, a core principle from Doug's best-selling book, The Revenue Acceleration Framework. As they celebrate the book's one-year anniversary, they discuss how acceleration cycles can transform how businesses approach strategy and execution.For updates on new episodes, follow us on:LinkedIn: Lift Enablement, Doug Davidoff, Jess CardenasSubscribe to our YouTube channel!You can access the show notes and watch the video version of the show on our page. Thanks for listening and remember to just say no to shitty RevOps!
In this episode of CRO Spotlight, host Warren Zenna welcomes Emma Clayton, C-Suite Strategic & Commercial Leadership Consultant at Be Brilliant Consultancy. With 27 years in marketing, Emma reveals the origin of her provocative LinkedIn musing on B2B marketing's fragmentation and leadership vacuum. She shares why she left a prominent community, how her spontaneous critique went viral, and its implications for today's revenue leaders.Emma dives into her ongoing “Who Shot Marketing?” narrative, personifying the profession's decline through the suspects: VCs treating CMOs as disposable, CFOs overlooking marketing's strategic role, and recruitment firms fueling tactical specialization. She argues that marketing's erosion stems from professionals losing their strategic identity and defaulting to siloed, short-term tactics instead of holistic business leadership.Warren and Emma explore the Chief Revenue Officer role as a remedy for fragmented revenue functions. They debate why CMOs often switch to CRO titles for prestige and survival, and how genuine CRO leadership demands a business-centric mindset that integrates marketing, sales, and customer success. Highlighting cross-functional alignment and strategic vision, they offer a blueprint for CROs to unify teams and develop the competencies needed for a coherent revenue engine.In closing, Emma urges listeners to channel their expertise into shaping the next era of marketing and revenue leadership. She calls on CEOs and aspiring CROs to end silos and collaboratively redefine marketing's role within the revenue engine. Listeners are encouraged to share insights and drive positive change. This episode equips leaders with fresh perspectives on strategic marketing, revenue alignment, and building resilient organizations ready for tomorrow's challenges.
On this episode of RevOps Unboxed, Sandy sits down with SK Ramakuru and Chris Hunter of MongoDB. The trio discuss build vs. buy decisions, the influence of AI on RevOps, program-based approaches to RevOps, and more.
What if a company could hit $10M ARR per founder—with zero employees? In this episode, Amos Bar-Joseph (CEO of Swan) joins Toni to break down their radical vision: scaling to $30M ARR with just three founders and an army of AI agents. They unpack what it really means to run an "autonomous business," why headcount isn't always the answer, and how AI is transforming go-to-market strategy from the inside out.If you're a founder, CRO, or GTM leader, this one's for you. Never miss a new episode! join our newsletter at revenueformula.substack.com (00:00) - Introduction (02:23) - Road to $30M ARR with AI (05:11) - Orchestration over operation (07:35) - Navigating AI and human jobs (11:43) - Strategies for scaling with AI (22:20) - The Second Wave of AI (25:38) - What exactly is Swan? (28:46) - The future of AI in business (36:58) - The new AI playbook (41:49) - Wrapping up (42:19) - Up next: Unemployment in the GTM community
This week on The RevOps Review, Jeff Ignacio is joined by Mustafa Saeed, cofounder and CEO of Louella.ai, to unpack the chaotic new normal in outbound email. Mustafa explains why cold email as we know it is broken, how AI-fueled automation is killing deliverability, and what organisations can do to protect their sender reputation. They dive into domain health, infrastructure strategies, and the role of RevOps in owning email performance. Plus, a deep discussion on the emerging "Go-To-Market Engineer" role, why it's gaining traction and the challenges in building this rare profile. If your pipeline depends on outbound, this is an episode you can't afford to miss.
This week on GTM Live, Carolyn sits down with Nick Flamini, host of the Sales Architecture Podcast, to explore the real reasons most go-to-market teams are still struggling—despite all the headcount, tools, and budget. They dig into the myth of “more BDRs = more pipeline,” and why most organizations are missing the data, architecture, and cross-functional alignment required to scale efficiently.Carolyn explains why “go-to-market bloat” is a symptom of deeper system issues, not bad people. She shares how Passetto is helping companies rethink how they connect marketing, sales, finance, and RevOps through a unified GTM data layer. Nick challenges the hype around AI in outbound, and the two unpack why trust, process, and measurement (not volume) are the levers that matter most.If you've ever questioned whether your CAC is actually sustainable, or felt stuck trying to prove marketing's impact, this episode is your blueprint.Key topics in this episode:Why most CRM data is unusable, and what to do about itThe epidemic of go-to-market bloat and over-hiringHow AI is flooding outbound and eroding trustWhy finance must own more of GTM efficiencyThe trap of MQL targets and performance by teamWhat it takes to build a real full-funnel revenue factoryThis episode is powered by Passetto. We help high-growth and equity-backed companies turn GTM data into better decisions, faster. We unify your GTM and financial data, identify your growth levers, and help you scale. Part SaaS, part advisory. Visit passetto.com
In this episode of RevOps Champions, Brendon Dennewill sits down with Sean Steigerwald, a serial entrepreneur and the CEO of CustomerIQ. Sean brings a wealth of experience from founding and growing SaaS and analytics companies, with deep expertise in business development, sales, and RevOps strategy. The conversation kicks off with Sean introducing CustomerIQ—a platform designed to automate and enrich CRM data entry while simplifying email automation for companies with complex sales cycles, particularly those using HubSpot or Salesforce.The discussion dives into the operational challenges of B2B companies, especially those in enterprise SaaS, professional services, and manufacturing. Sean emphasizes that the main pain point for sales and revenue teams is updating and leveraging the CRM efficiently. He stresses the importance of removing tedious manual tasks, and automating processes only after they've been validated manually. Both Sean and Brendon highlight the need for strong RevOps leadership to ensure cross-team alignment and operational efficiency, and share their appreciation for business operating systems like EOS to help teams remain focused and empowered during growth phases.Throughout the episode, Sean champions the value of consistent execution (“lead bullets” over “silver bullets”) and warns against overcomplicating tech stacks with unnecessary tools. They agree that alignment—across people, process, data, and technology—is key to scaling and customer retention. Sean concludes with practical advice: focus on process clarity before automation, use your CRM as a central hub for alignment, and keep things simple. For further learning, he recommends business books like “The Hard Thing About Hard Things” and entrepreneurial podcasts such as “Invest Like the Best” and “Founders.”Find more at revopschampions.com
SaaStr 802: SaaS + AI: It's Time to Move Much Faster with SaaStr CEO and Founder Jason Lemkin Join SaaStr CEO and Founder Jason Lemkin in this compelling podcast that was recorded live from SaaStr Annual, as he discusses the rapid transformation in the SaaS industry driven by AI advancements. Reflecting on changes since last September, Jason emphasizes the necessity for SaaS leaders and companies to move faster, re-skill their teams, and adopt AI-first strategies to stay competitive. Hear real-world examples of how AI is revolutionizing sales, customer support, and coding productivity, leading to significant industry shifts. This session is a call to action with a message of tough love: adapt quickly, be relentless, and work harder to navigate the evolving landscape and ensure continued success. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tired of listening to hours of sales calls? Recording is yesterday's game. Attention.com unleashes an army of AI sales agents that auto-update your CRM, build custom sales decks, spot cross-sell signals, and score calls before your coffee's cold. Teams like BambooHR and Scale AI already automate their Sales and RevOps using customer conversations. Step into the future at attention.com/saastr -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Do you know what would make your customer service helpdesk dramatically better? Dumping it and switching to Intercom. But, youʼre not quite ready to make that change. We get it! Thatʼs why Fin, the worldʼs leading AI customer service agent, is now available on every helpdesk. Fin can instantly resolve up to 80% of your tickets, Which makes your customers happier. And you can get off the customer service rep hiring treadmill. Fin by Intercom. Named the #1 AI Agent in G2ʼs Winter Report. Learn more at : inter.com/saastr --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This week on Revenue Rehab, Brandi Starr is joined by John Williams, a fractional CRO, and Jonathan Moss, founder of AI Business Network, who believe that “AI is useless if your customer data is a chaotic mess”—and they're here to prove it. In this episode, they challenge the widespread assumption that companies are AI-ready just because their data is accessible, arguing that fragmented, siloed data creates “context debt” and erodes trust, retention, and revenue. From eye-opening client stories to tactical fixes, John and Jonathan reveal why senior revenue leaders must prioritize data clarity before chasing AI transformation—or risk accelerating mistakes instead of results. Is your data clean enough to matter, or are you just accelerating garbage? Listen in, debate, and decide. Episode Type: Problem Solving Industry analysts, consultants, and founders take a bold stance on critical revenue challenges, offering insights you won't hear anywhere else. These episodes explore common industry challenges and potential solutions through expert insights and varied perspectives. Bullet Points of Key Topics + Chapter Markers: Topic #1: Clean Data is the Real Prerequisite for AI Success [00:00] John Williams and Jonathan Moss argue that most companies are rushing into AI without first fixing fundamental data problems. They challenge the popular belief that AI alone can drive revenue impact, asserting instead, “AI can't save your revenue engine if your data is a chaotic mess.” Brandi Starr pushes for specifics, leading to a candid debate on why data readiness—not AI adoption—is the real starting line for AI ROI. Topic #2: The Cost of Context Debt on Revenue Teams [05:37] Jonathan Moss introduces the concept of “context debt”—the hidden tax organizations pay when fragmented data erodes efficiency and trust. He challenges the common practice of making decisions in data silos, warning that “strategic decisions on impartial information” will hurt revenue and customer relationships. Brandi spotlights Moss's point that context debt directly leads to lost deals and missed growth, stirring debate on how leaders should audit and connect data before deploying AI. Topic #3: RevOps, Not IT, Should Orchestrate Data Readiness [22:17] Jonathan Moss boldly claims that revenue operations—not IT or individual business units—should own the responsibility for stitching together customer data. He disrupts the status quo: “The go to market system, which I consider data, process and technology, should be owned by RevOps.” The discussion challenges traditional data ownership models and urges CROs/CMOs to empower RevOps to connect silos, warning that without clear ownership, AI projects will fail to deliver impact. The Wrong Approach vs. Smarter Alternative The Wrong Approach: “They try to think about connecting all their systems to the single truth without asking the question, what decision are we trying to make that this would help us be faster and better? And so they try to take on the entire the entire project of connecting versus thinking about what, what do we need to answer and how do we, how do we do that in a better way?” – Jonathan Moss Why It Fails: Attempting to integrate every data system all at once often leads to overwhelming complexity, wasted resources, and solutions that don't directly support urgent business needs. Without clarity on the specific decisions the business wants to improve, massive integration projects lack focus and can stall or fail, burdening teams instead of accelerating outcomes. The Smarter Alternative: Start with the decisions that matter most—determine which questions need answering to drive business impact and work backward to connect only the necessary data sources for those outcomes. By aligning data efforts with clear, actionable objectives, companies can deliver value quickly and ensure their data strategy fuels smarter, faster decision-making. The Rapid-Fire Round Finish this sentence: If your company has this problem, the first thing you should do is _ “List all your customer data locations. Don't worry about whether it's clean yet—just knowing where all your data is and what it contains is your starting point.” – John Williams What's one red flag that signals a company has this problem—but might not realize it yet? “Confusing data infrastructure with decision infrastructure. Just because your data is ‘clean' and stored in the right place doesn't mean it's actionable or aligned for decision-making.” – Jonathan Moss What's the most common mistake people make when trying to fix this? “Trying to connect every system to a single source of truth without first asking what business decision you're actually trying to make. Instead, start with the question you need to answer, then connect only the data necessary for that.” – Jonathan Moss What's the fastest action someone can take today to make progress? “Gather all your department heads for a 55-minute whiteboard session. Map out the customer journey, pinpoint each team's touchpoints, and identify what data you have at each stage. This quickly reveals gaps and opportunities for data flow improvement.” – John Williams Links: John Williams LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/growthcro Business: https://www.sunbusinessgroup.com/ Links: Jonathan Moss LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mossjonathan/ X: https://x.com/JonathanMoss YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AIBusinessNetwork Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/2wQXqIjaKSn97HkVYNnbzg?si=7386dc681a7f4f4c Business: http://www.aibusinessnetwork.ai/ Subscribe, listen, and rate/review Revenue Rehab Podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts , Amazon Music, or iHeart Radio and find more episodes on our website RevenueRehab.live
In this episode, we chat with Olga Traskova, VP of Revenue Operations at Birdeye, about transforming go-to-market processes to support scale. Olga shares how her team spans marketing, sales, and customer success ops, the balance between quick wins and long-term transformation, and her vision for blending human insight with AI-driven tools. From optimising pipeline hygiene to building forecasting accuracy and orchestrating a “marching band” sales motion, Olga brings a wealth of RevOps wisdom for any leader navigating growth.
When cybersecurity companies are racing to outpace evolving threats, innovation often starts in an unexpected place: revenue operations. In this episode of Tech Talks Daily, I sit down with John Queally, Senior Director of Revenue Operations at Clari, to explore why RevOps has become a vital engine behind the performance and resilience of cybersecurity leaders. John brings a unique perspective from his journey through banking, analytics, and enterprise tech. What stands out is how rapidly the RevOps function has matured from a back-office support role to a central, strategic force. Especially in the cybersecurity space, where innovation requires ongoing investment and risk is measured in seconds, the pressure to run efficient, scalable revenue processes has never been greater. We delve into why clean, trusted data is the backbone of any AI strategy and how 67% of revenue leaders still don't trust the data they're using. It's a staggering insight, and one that underscores the urgent need for cross-functional alignment. John explains how RevOps can serve as the connective tissue across sales, marketing, customer success, and finance, moving companies from a place where they're debating the accuracy of dashboards to making real decisions in real time. He also shares a behind-the-scenes look at Clari's work with cybersecurity firms like Okta, where implementing balanced pipeline strategies and streamlining task prioritization has unlocked measurable improvements. We discuss the rise of AI, but John doesn't just repeat industry headlines. He calls out the "unsexy" truth that real AI advantage requires the hard work of data cleanup first and those who do it will pull ahead. From operational transparency to building trust within revenue teams, this episode challenges assumptions about how data, AI, and RevOps intersect. And for anyone in cybersecurity or enterprise tech wondering how to scale effectively while preparing for what's next, this conversation offers a grounded and insightful starting point. Is your company still debating data? Or are you ready to turn trusted insights into action?
AI won't fix your sales model if the foundation is broken. In this episode, Jacco van der Kooij explains why the old go-to-market playbook is collapsing—and what the new, AI-powered future actually looks like.Never miss a new episode, join our newsletter on revenueformula.substack.com(00:00) - Introduction (02:32) - AI and the old playbook (10:34) - The role of customers in growth (25:56) - Human-Led Growth Powered by AI (33:57) - AI Integration in Sales (37:51) - The Future of AI in Business Operations (46:09) - Wrapping up (48:37) - On the next episode
In this episode, Mike Simmons—founder of Catalyst and go-to-market strategist—joins us to break down how great meetings, clear processes, and intentional systems can make or break a revenue org. From applying the Jobs-To-Be-Done framework to meetings, to building sales stages that actually reflect probability, Mike shares practical strategies, frameworks, and whiteboard-worthy insights for go-to-market and RevOps leaders navigating change. This one's for the operators, the thinkers, and the builders.
In this episode of RevOps Champions, Brendon Dennewill sits down with Torben Rytt, a leader well-known for his success at Siteimprove and now as the founder of Gainbox. Torben brings a unique background, having moved from Europe to Minneapolis driven by both personal and professional opportunities. With deep roots in building and scaling data-driven businesses, Torben's journey reflects his ongoing commitment to leveraging technology, curiosity, and ownership as core tenets of leadership.The discussion centers around the pivotal role of data in driving organizational growth and effective sales strategies. Torben explains how, at Siteimprove, deliberate data collection and operationalization made a significant difference, allowing his teams to continually refine their approach and set themselves apart from competitors. Both speakers underscore the importance of not just amassing data, but actually using it to inform decisions, shape company culture, and define ideal customer profiles (ICP). Torben shares how curiosity pushed his teams to seek out unique data points and patterns, going beyond industry basics to truly understand why some customers thrive while others churn.As the conversation evolves, Torben outlines how emerging technologies like AI are transforming CRM and sales operations. He describes Gainbox as the toolset he wishes he had earlier in his career—a scalable, AI-powered platform for uncovering actionable data signals and keeping CRMs efficient and up-to-date. The episode wraps up with advice for RevOps leaders: remain open to experimentation, make bold leadership decisions rooted in company values, and focus on intelligent, targeted outreach rather than generic, high-volume tactics. The result is a refreshingly practical perspective on preparing businesses for the next wave of technological innovation in revenue operations.Find more at revopschampions.com
Databox is an easy-to-use Analytics Platform for growing businesses. We make it easy to centralize and view your entire company's marketing, sales, revenue, and product data in one place, so you always know how you're performing. Learn More About DataboxSubscribe to our newsletter for episode summaries, benchmark data, and moreIn this episode of Metrics & Chill, Jeremiah sits down with Bec Henrich, Head of Marketing at Traction Complete, to talk about forecasting that actually works. Instead of reverse-engineering aggressive revenue targets, Bec explains how to build forecasts grounded in real funnel data—so your team can aim high without burning out.You'll learn:How to model accurate and predictable conversion rates How to avoid “wishful thinking forecasts” The importance of clean, standardized data in your CRMHow to factor in seasonality to avoid mid-quarter surprisesTips for getting Sales and RevOps aligned on forecast assumptionsMore about:Traction Complete: https://tractioncomplete.com/ Databox: https://databox.comSubscribe to the newsletter: https://databox.com/newsletter
Thinking about adding AI SDRs to your sales team? In this episode, we break down what actually works—and what doesn't—when implementing AI in your sales development process. From common onboarding mistakes to where AI truly shines (and stumbles), here's what you need to know before you plug it in. Articles mentioned in the episode:11x CEO Hasan Sukkar steps down - https://techcrunch.com/2025/05/05/11x-ceo-hasan-sukkar-steps-down/Artisan Raises $25M Series A - https://www.forbes.com/sites/dariashunina/2025/04/09/artisan-raises-25m-to-replace-repetitive-work-with-ai-employees/11x.ai Review worth the hype? - https://saassalesdirector.medium.com/11x-ai-review-worth-the-hype-a33e89a9716f Never miss a new episode, join our newsletter on revenueformula.substack.com (00:00) - Introduction (01:21) - Implementing AI SDRs (03:51) - The state of AI SDR vendors (05:58) - AI fatigue is real (07:15) - The AI SDR in your funnel (10:50) - Where the AI is actually better than your team (13:03) - Onboarding and training AI (20:04) - Project managing AI SDRs (24:12) - Wrapping up
Why you should listenUnderstand why rigid RevOps systems are failing SaaS teams today—and what to build instead.Get actionable tips on using AI (like Clay and ChatGPT) to scale without losing your personal touch.Hear how Jacki uses LinkedIn like a "social butterfly" to create inbound interest through strategic commenting.Still clinging to outdated RevOps playbooks? You might be quietly killing your growth. In this episode of the Paul Higgins Podcast, I sit down with Jacki Leahy, the high-energy founder of Activate the Magic, to unpack why cold outbound is dead and how to build a future-proof revenue engine that actually works. Jacki shares her wild journey from kindergarten teacher to scaling a SaaS company from $350K to $9M ARR, and now helping early-stage SaaS founders create flexible, client-focused RevOps systems.Jacki doesn't pull punches. She breaks down how "best practices" are often security blankets, how to ditch broken systems in favor of experimentation, and how to use tools like LinkedIn, Clay, and AI agents to drive connection-first sales. If you want to future-proof your revenue and get bigger deals with less waste, this is your blueprint.About Jacki LeahyWith a unique journey from kindergarten teacher to BDR, Jacki found her true calling as an "Accidental Admin" at LinkSquares. As the 10th hire, she spearheaded the growth of the business development team, architecting the people, processes, and tech stack that catapulted ARR from $350K to $9M in 2 years.Since 2020, Jacki has been on the consulting side of startups as VP Operations at Eustace Consulting and Head of Revenue Operations at Winning by Design.She started ATM in August 2022, and lives in Boston MA with her mini dachshund Freddy.Resources and LinksActivatethemagic.comJacki's LinkedIn profilePrevious episode: 608 - Your Challenge Isn't Unique—But Your Response Is What Sets You ApartCheck out more episodes of the Paul Higgins PodcastSubscribe to our YouTube channel: @PaulHigginsMentoringJoin our newsletterSuggested resources