Podcasts about revops

Send us a textIn this episode we interview Ethan Prete, a seasoned marketer with a consulting background and a data-first mindset, known for transforming scattered marketing efforts into strategic systems that actually drive results.What you'll learn in this episode:Why most marketers waste time on broad targeting—and how to fix itHow to build a real ICP using actual closed-won data (not guesses)The “dating app” analogy that will reshape how you think about customer targetingWhy thinking like a private equity firm leads to better marketing decisionsTactics for getting internal access to valuable data—even without technical skillsHow to influence RevOps, sales, and C-suite teams through aligned metricsThe mindset shift marketers need to eliminate bad campaigns without ego

In this episode, Brendon Dennewill sits down with Kevin Davis, Founder of BoogieBoard, to explore how territory design can make—or break—sales performance. From his experiences at NetSuite and Google to launching BoogieBoard, Kevin shares how poor territory planning costs companies time, money, and morale. The conversation dives into sales strategy, AI's role in market intelligence, CRM integration, and how to overcome the hidden opportunity costs that stall growth. Whether you're a RevOps leader, sales strategist, or part of a seller-doer team, this episode is packed with insights on designing smarter systems that drive real revenue outcomes.What You'll LearnWhy territory design is a strategic lever, not just an operational taskHow poor territory planning erodes trust and increases sales rep turnoverThe role of AI in transforming market data into actionable territory insightsWhy RevOps leaders often identify problems but lack empowerment to solve themHow seller-doer models in professional services can benefit from territory optimizationThe importance of establishing a "North Star" for territory design processesResources & MentionsBoogieBoard: Territory design and planning platformRoger Federer's Commencement Speech: Referenced for the "53% winning" mindsetSalesforce & HubSpot: Primary CRM integrations mentionedSnowflake: Customer data platform integrationAI and Data Substacks: Kevin promises to share recommendations for data-driven sales strategiesEOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System): Business planning framework mentionedAbout Kevin DavisTitle: Co-Founder and CEO Company: BoogieBoardLet's Connect Subscribe to the RevOps Champions Newsletter LinkedIn YouTube Explore the show at revopschampions.com. Ready to unite your teams with RevOps strategies that eliminate costly silos and drive growth? Let's talk!

Pipelines are drying up. AI hasn't delivered the growth it promised. And the old playbooks like SEO and outbound just don't work the way they used to. We call it the great pipeline starvation, and in this episode we break down what's really happening, what it means for sales and marketing teams, and how companies are trying to adapt. This episode is brought to you by ZoomInfo, the Go-To-Market Intelligence Platform. ZoomInfo gives you high-quality B2B data and sales intelligence on in-market buyers across companies of all sizes, powered by AI-driven automation with integrated outreach tools to help your GTM teams build pipeline and close deals faster. Check them out at zoominfo.com/revenue-formulaWant to work with us? Learn more: revformula.io(00:00) - Introduction (02:10) - Pipeline starvation (05:22) - Breakout companies are dominating (06:50) - The cost of lead gen (15:54) - The role of AI in cost reduction (20:18) - The future of sales and marketing automation (27:10) - The impact of AI on job roles (31:05) - The limitations of AI in growth (35:21) - The augment Bucket: Enhancing roles (39:36) - Zero waste GTM (46:35) - Final thoughts (47:27) - Next week: Todd Busler on the rev tech industry

In this compelling conversation, Kate Donovan, founder and CEO of CAMP Digital, shares how she transformed from a dyslexic social worker into a tech-savvy entrepreneur who revolutionized marketing for the home services industry. After being told by Google to "get out of auto" and enter the home services space - which was a "technological desert" in 2018 - Kate built a capacity-aligned marketing platform that has scaled to serve trades businesses across multiple verticals.The episode explores Kate's unique approach to scaling businesses through her four-pillar philosophy: people, process, data, and technology. She discusses the critical balance of leveraging AI without creating liability, the importance of slowing down to go faster, and why understanding your team's capacity is essential for sustainable growth. Kate's social work background shines through in her people-first leadership style and commitment to hiring diverse talent, including LGBTQIA+ individuals, veterans, and second-chance employees.This conversation is perfect for service business owners, marketing leaders, and entrepreneurs looking to understand how technology can solve real business problems while maintaining a human-centered approach to growth.What You'll Learn:The CAMP Framework: How Capacity Aligned Marketing Platform revolutionizes service business marketing by connecting capacity management with ad spendThe "Three Times Rule": Kate's philosophy that if you do something three times, you should automate it with technologyAI Implementation Strategy: How to leverage AI tools while avoiding data privacy pitfalls and regulatory compliance issuesPeople-First Scaling: Why hiring for diversity and creating inclusive culture drives business differentiationThe Spinning Plates Analogy: How to balance people, process, data, and technology for sustainable growthEOS Integration: How the Entrepreneurial Operating System supports scaling from startup to established businessResources Mentioned:Camp Digital: Home services marketing platform (capacity-aligned marketing)Capacity Pro: Dashboard that manages marketing spend based on technician capacityEOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System): Business framework both hosts implementHubSpot: CRM and marketing platform discussedGoogle My Business & Google Ads: Platforms referenced for home services marketingChatGPT: AI tool discussed with privacy considerationsDealer Teamwork: Sean Stapleton's company (Katie's brother) where she previously workedAbout:          Kate DonovanTitle:            C.E.O. Company:  CAMP DigitalLet's Connect Subscribe to the RevOps Champions Newsletter LinkedIn YouTube Explore the show at revopschampions.com. Ready to unite your teams with RevOps strategies that eliminate costly silos and drive growth? Let's talk!

What do video games have to do with business growth? More than you think.In this episode, Toni and Raul explain how their gaming past helps them spot company issues almost instantly. Using the idea of levels, just like in video games, they show why businesses get stuck, how to know what level your company is really on, and what it takes to move forward the right way.Want to be a guest on the show? Learn more at revformula.io(00:00) - Introduction (06:53) - Levels Explained (11:53) - Hiring the Right People at the Right Time (16:41) - Strategic Roadmaps and Levels (19:12) - Situational Dependency in Business Advice (20:14) - CRM Implementation Challenges (25:28) - The Importance of Process Maturity (31:47) - Three Main Problems (35:13) - Our Solution (37:30) - Next Week: Zero Waste GTM

Too many frontline managers are promoted for hitting quota, then left to figure out leadership on their own. In this episode, Jeff Cummings, COO at LLC Attorney, shares a battle-tested coaching playbook built through 20+ years of leading high-growth teams. He challenges the “leadership lie” that there's no time for 1:1s and lays out a structured, repeatable framework that transforms one-on-ones from status updates into high-impact coaching sessions.Jeff walks through how to coach top performers without coddling them, how to use AI to scale personalized development, and why being a good manager has nothing to do with being in the deals. This episode is packed with practical guidance for CROs, RevOps, and enablement leaders looking to build durable revenue teams, starting with better coaching habits at the frontline.Key Takeaways1. The “Leadership Lie” is that there's no time for 1:1s.Jeff calls out the myth that leaders are too busy to coach; if you're too busy for your people, you're too busy to lead.2. One-on-ones should be structured, consistent, and focused on development, not deals.Effective 1:1s follow a repeatable process that goes beyond pipeline reviews to drive skill growth and accountability.3. Coaching should start with reflection by the rep.Asking “what went well?” first gives the rep ownership and builds a coaching culture grounded in self-awareness.4. Top performers need coaching, too, especially around behavior and professionalism.Being a high producer doesn't exempt someone from expectations; true leaders help reps round out their game.5. Managers must separate being in the action from building the team that drives the action.If you're still acting like a super rep, you're not creating leverage, and you're stunting team growth.6. Missed 1:1s should be rescheduled immediately, not skipped.Treat coaching like a customer meeting; canceling without rescheduling signals that people aren't the priority.7. AI can be used to scale coaching, not replace it.Jeff uses AI to track commitments, organize feedback, and personalize development, but the human connection stays central.8. Be fully present, no Slack, no inbox, no distractions.Undivided attention during coaching moments signals to reps that their development matters.9. Coaching isn't a task; it's a leadership mindset.Great leaders don't wait for permission to coach or train; they take ownership of their team's growth trajectory.10. Pay mentorship forward, build a legacy through people.Jeff credits his early mentors and reinforces that the best ROI in leadership comes from investing in others and teaching them to do the same.LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffcummings/

#274 Growth | In this episode, Dave is joined by Sean Lane, Founding Partner at BeaconGTM and RevOps expert, to talk about scaling RevOps in B2B. With over a decade of experience at Drift and other B2B SaaS companies, Sean shares actionable tips for marketers looking to align operations with business goals.Dave and Sean cover:How to build alignment between sales, marketing, and opsWhy early-stage companies must align operational complexity with their growth maturityHow continuous planning helps marketing and ops teams stay agile as business challenges come upTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro to Sean (07:11) - - Going From Founder Led Sales to Having A Professional GTM (09:52) - - How Ops Bridges Business Goals (13:42) - - How To Align Sales, Marketing, and Operations (17:51) - - Why You Need A Clear Marketing Strategy (20:17) - - How To Build A Partnership Between Marketing and Operations (26:41) - - Guidelines for long term vs short term budgeting and planning (32:19) - - Marketing's Role At The Bottom Of The Funnel (37:14) - - How To Get “Hand-raisers” For Your Product In The Customer Journey (41:06) - - Do Engaged Accounts Measure The Success Of Marketing? (42:56) - - Sean's Podcast ROI (45:12) - - AI Use Cases In Ops (50:14) - - How To Hire A Good Ops Person (53:42) - - Closing Remarks Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***Today's episode is brought to you by Walnut.Why are we pouring all this effort into marketing just to push buyers to a “request a demo” or “contact sales” button?Come on, today's buyers don't want to talk to sales right away. They want to explore your product themselves, see how it works, and understand its value before booking a meeting.That's where Walnut comes in.Walnut empowers marketers and GTM teams to create interactive, self-guided product experiences in minutes. Embed these experiences on your site, in emails, or anywhere in your funnel to let buyers engage on their terms, from awareness to close and beyond. That's the beauty of Walnut - you're getting a platform that your sales and CS colleagues can use to showcase the product too.And the best part? You get real intent data—see which features prospects love, where they drop off, and what's actually driving pipeline. Demo Qualified Leads are the new MQL.Over 500 companies, like Adobe and NetApp, use Walnut to drive 2-3x higher website conversion rates and 7 figures in pipeline on a yearly basis. So do you want to drive more leads, shorten sales cycles, and actually show your product instead of hiding it behind another typical B2B CTA? Go check out Walnut.io. And if you tell them Dave from Exit 5 sent you, they'll build out your first demo for free!

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!In this episode of Ops Cast by MarketingOps.com (powered by The MO Pros), hosts Michael Hartmann, Mike Rizzo, and Naomi Liu delve into one of the most discussed shifts in B2B marketing and revenue operations: the evolving roles of Marketing Qualified Leads (MQLs) and Marketing Qualified Accounts (MQAs).In this episode, you'll learn:Why the traditional MQL model may be falling short and where MQAs step in.How to realign marketing and sales around shared intent signals.Common pitfalls when transitioning from MQLs to MQAs (and how to avoid them).Practical advice on shifting measurement frameworks to reflect real buyer behavior.To unpack this timely topic, they're joined by two accomplished leaders in RevOps and marketing strategy:Andrea Frazier, Senior Revenue Operations Technical Consultant, is known for her expertise in building scalable systems and aligning sales, marketing, and data. What makes her presence special on this podcast is that she will be a part of the Mopsapalooza as a speaker.Jessica Fewless, VP of Marketing and Partnerships, has deep experience in ABM, demand gen, and full-funnel program strategy.Together, they challenge long-standing definitions of buying intent and discuss how teams can evolve from lead-focused metrics to account-based signals that drive more aligned, strategic growth.Tune in now, because whether you're in Marketing Ops, RevOps, or Demand Gen, this episode offers an expert-led perspective on what it means to qualify, measure, and act on intent in today's B2B environment.Check out our complete toolkit for helping you move from MQLs to MQAs!Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations Professionals Visit UTM.io and tell them the Ops Cast team sent you. Join us at MOps-Apalooza: https://mopsapalooza.com/Save 10% with code opscast10Support the show

In this episode of the Thread Podcast, host Justin Vandehey speaks with Karan Singh, SVP of Go-to-Market Strategy and Operations at LaunchDarkly. They discuss Karan's extensive background in various tech companies, the evolving role of AI in sales, and the importance of human connection in go-to-market strategies. Karan emphasizes the need for productivity over leanness in sales organizations and highlights the challenges of training and developing sellers in a fast-paced environment. He also shares insights for new revenue operations professionals, stressing the importance of seller readiness and effective onboarding processes.TakeawaysKaran Singh has a diverse background in tech, having worked in cybersecurity, data warehousing, and vertical SaaS.AI tools should enhance human connections rather than replace them in sales processes.Productivity is more important than leanness in sales organizations.The average tenure of a seller is around 18 months, highlighting the need for effective training.Investing in seller readiness early can lead to long-term success in sales organizations.Automation can help sellers focus on meaningful human interactions.Sales training should be consistent and comprehensive to ensure seller success.Understanding customer needs is crucial for effective sales conversations.Karan emphasizes the importance of developing B sellers into A sellers.The role of Rev Ops is multifaceted, requiring a focus on strategy, systems, and seller enablement.Chapters02:26 Karan Singh's Journey in Go-to-Market Strategy07:15 The Role of AI in Sales and Human Connection10:36 Productivity vs. Leanness in Sales Organizations14:13 Challenges in Seller Training and Development18:53 Key Insights for New Rev Ops Hires

In this eye-opening conversation, Brendon Dennewill sits down with Kristen McGarr, Founder and Fractional CRO from Adroit Insights, to discuss why most CRM implementations fail and what businesses can do differently. They dive deep into the critical importance of prioritizing people and processes before technology, sharing real-world examples of how this approach transformed a 6-person company into a 21-person team in just six months.Kristen brings her unique perspective as both a CRO and CRM expert, explaining why adoption is the #1 metric for CRM success and how to think about your CRM as a valued team member rather than just another software expense. This episode is perfect for business leaders considering a CRM implementation, struggling with current adoption issues, or planning for growth.What You'll Learn:Why the "people, process, technology" framework is critical for CRM successThe real reasons CRM implementations fail (and how to avoid them)How to calculate the true cost of CRM ownership beyond software subscriptionsStrategies for maintaining data integrity as your business growsThe importance of having an internal CRM championResources Mentioned:HubSpot: Comprehensive CRM and marketing platformZoho: Business software suite and CRM platformUpwork: Platform for finding CRM support resourcesIDC Research: Total value of ecosystem studiesGoogle Sheets integrations: For bridging spreadsheet users to CRM adoptionAbout Kristen McGarrTitle: Founder & Fractional Chief Revenue OfficerCompany: Adroit InsightsExpertise: CRM implementation, revenue operations, business process optimization, and fractional leadership for solopreneurs and small businessesLinkedIn: Kristen McGarr Website: Adroit InsightsLet's Connect Subscribe to the RevOps Champions Newsletter LinkedIn YouTube Explore the show at revopschampions.com. Ready to unite your teams with RevOps strategies that eliminate costly silos and drive growth? Let's talk!

Remote work and AI promised to make us more productive. The data says otherwise.In this episode, we unpack new research showing remote workers put in about two and a half hours less each day than office teams, and studies suggesting AI tools can weaken critical thinking and slow skill growth. We explore what happens when these trends collide, how they impact career development, and why leaders need to address the issue now.Sources:U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics 2024 study Measuring the Impact of Early-2025 AI on Experienced Open-Source Developer Productivity Your Brain on ChatGPT: Accumulation of Cognitive Debt when Using an AI Assistant for Essay Writing Task Never miss a new episode, join our newsletter on revenueformula.substack.com(00:00) - Introduction (03:25) - Research: Remote work is not working (09:31) - Parkinson's Law of Productivity (16:50) - Distractions in work environments (17:48) - Remote work and career development (24:01) - AI's impact on developers (28:41) - Study: AI making us dumber? (32:34) - The Future of Cognitive Functions (40:59) - Final thoughts (41:58) - Next week: What have we been working on?

Jeff Ignacio sits down with John Queally, Senior Director of RevOps at Clari, to explore how modern RevOps can go from support function to strategic command center. John shares how his team leverages product telemetry, AI-powered account health scores, and a unified cadence to drive real outcomes across the GTM funnel. They also dig into why RevOps must own data quality in the AI era, and why sometimes the best ops leaders step outside of ops to level up. If you're serious about scaling smarter, this one's for you.

We talk with Lennard Kooy, CEO of Lleverage, about why nobody actually cares about AI—they care about outcomes. Lennard drops hard truths on why most companies are moving too slow, how to accelerate adoption by assisting before replacing, and where agentic workflows are creating real ROI. He also demos a live “gladiator challenge” of building a cold outreach AI agent from scratch, and outlines what every GTM leader needs to do right now to stay relevant. Whether you're a RevOps pro, a BDR sick of cold calls, or a CMO trying not to get fired—this is your wake-up call.   04:43 Interview with Lennard Kooy 09:36 AI-Powered Recruitment and Sales Automation 14:29 Adopting AI in Business Processes 21:29 Practical AI Workflow Demonstration 23:40 Generating Company Lists and Lead Data 24:24 Simplifying Automation for Users 24:47 User Experience and Customer Support 25:39 Quick Wins for New Users 28:10 Potential of Agentic AI in Go-to-Market 30:59 Guardrails for Adopting AI 32:32 The Power of MCP in AI Integration 35:25 Mid-Market Focus and ROI 37:34 Future of AI in Professional Roles 39:41 Advice for Go-to-Market Leaders 42:29 Quick Hits: Practical AI Tips 44:57 Final Thoughts and Takeaways Key Topics Reality Check: Why most businesses don't care about AI—and what they do care about The Trust Layer: How “assist before replace” is the cheat code for adoption Recruiting Reinvented: How Lleverage AI automated 70% of their hiring pipeline Agentic GTM: Where agent workflows are replacing cold calls, research, and lead scoring Demo Time: Watch Lennard build an AI agent live, in under 5 minutes MCP Advantage: Why this new spec removes dev bottlenecks and boosts AI usability Speed > Perfection: Why going slow will kill your competitive edge Hard Truths for Leaders: You will get replaced if you don't move faster Future of Work: What GTM roles look like in a near-agentic future About our Guest: Lennard Kooy is a seasoned tech entrepreneur focused on how emerging technologies can transform business operations. As CEO of AI platform Lleverage, he helps companies automate complex processes without requiring technical expertise, drawing from his experience building and selling martech company Storyteq to ITG. Known for his pragmatic approach to AI adoption, Lennard regularly shares insights on making advanced automation accessible to everyday business teams. He's passionate about strengthening Europe's position in the global AI landscape and frequently writes about the practical realities of implementing AI in enterprise settings.

#271 GTM Engineering | In this episode, Dave is joined by John Short, CEO of Compound Growth Marketing, along with Cammy Keiler, Justin Johnson, and Dan Guenet. Together, they break down the rise of GTM engineering, what it is, how it differs from RevOps, and why B2B teams are investing in it.Dave and the crew cover:The core difference between RevOps and GTM engineering (and why the latter is more focused on building than just integrating)Real GTM engineering use cases, from AI-powered sales tools to mid-funnel campaigns that go way beyond ebooksHow GTM engineers are driving higher revenue per employee and why this role should be one of your first five marketing hiresWhether you're hiring or just GTM-curious, you'll leave this episode with a clear definition of the role, real-world examples, and tactical ways GTM engineers drive impact.Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro (03:33) - – Why this topic resonated with 1,200+ registrants (05:48) - – What even is **GTM engineering? (08:03) - – GTM engineering vs. RevOps vs. Marketing Ops (11:18) - – How AI is driving this role forward (14:28) - – Real examples: ABM campaigns, mid-funnel tools, sales call analysis (19:38) - – Tools GTM engineers are using today (Clay, Unify, GPTs) (23:03) - – Role of GTM engineering in revenue per employee (27:18) - – How GTM engineers enable sales + reduce headcount (31:33) - – What Dan actually does all day as a GTM engineer (36:23) - – Custom GPTs for sales and marketing teams (39:38) - – What MCP servers are (and why they matter) (44:08) - – Claude, Gamma, and AI-powered content systems (46:53) - – Why this isn't just PLG (or ABM, or RevOps) (50:43) - – When to hire a GTM engineer (53:23) - – Big feelings about the role (and why they exist) (55:33) - – Closing thoughts + what to take away Send guest pitches and ideas to hi@exitfive.comJoin the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***Today's episode is brought to you by Walnut.Why are we pouring all this effort into marketing just to push buyers to a “request a demo” or “contact sales” button?Come on, today's buyers don't want to talk to sales right away. They want to explore your product themselves, see how it works, and understand its value before booking a meeting.That's where Walnut comes in.Walnut empowers marketers and GTM teams to create interactive, self-guided product experiences in minutes. Embed these experiences on your site, in emails, or anywhere in your funnel to let buyers engage on their terms, from awareness to close and beyond. That's the beauty of Walnut - you're getting a platform that your sales and CS colleagues can use to showcase the product too.And the best part? You get real intent data—see which features prospects love, where they drop off, and what's actually driving pipeline. Demo Qualified Leads are the new MQL.Over 500 companies, like Adobe and NetApp, use Walnut to drive 2-3x higher website conversion rates and 7 figures in pipeline on a yearly basis. So do you want to drive more leads, shorten sales cycles, and actually show your product instead of hiding it behind another typical B2B CTA? Go check out Walnut.io. And if you tell them Dave from Exit 5 sent you, they'll build out your first demo for free!

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!On today's episode, we talk with Kyle Priest (former CMO, CRO, COO, and President at multiple SaaS firms and agencies) and returning guest Eric Hollebone (President & COO at Demand Lab) to discuss what it really takes for marketing to have a voice at the leadership table. Together, they explore how alignment between marketing, sales, and RevOps creates not only better stories but better business results—and how marketers can shift their mindset to lead strategic growth conversations at the board level.Whether you're in marketing ops, RevOps, or a revenue leader looking to elevate your impact, this conversation is packed with insight on how to connect tactical execution with executive influence.Tune in to hear:Marketing's Role in the Boardroom: Why marketing must go beyond tactics and brand to speak the language of revenue, margin, and predictable growth.Revenue-First Mindset: How aligning on goals, terminology, and KPIs across departments builds organizational momentum and earns trust at the top.The Power of Storytelling: Tips for telling clear, concise growth stories that resonate with CFOs, CEOs, and investors—starting with closed-won revenue and working backwards.Quality of Revenue Explained: Understanding why not all revenue is equal and how marketers can influence strategic customer acquisition that builds long-term value.Practical Advice for RevOps & Marketing Ops: From measuring contribution (not just attribution) to carving out time for strategic insights, learn what actions to take today to elevate your role tomorrow.

This week on GTM Live, Carolyn and Trevor sit down with Mark Turner, VP of Revenue Operations at Demandbase, to break down how RevOps leaders can build aligned systems, drive better GTM execution, and measure what actually matters.Mark shares how his early background in FP&A shaped his leadership approach, bringing a data-first, analytical mindset to RevOps that balances strategic planning with operational precision. He also unpacks what it really takes to build a unified data layer across the GTM org, and why consistent definitions and connected systems are key to moving fast and measuring effectively.Key topics in this episode:How FP&A experience gives RevOps leaders a strategic edgeHow to build a unified data layer across GTMWhy sourced attribution models fall shortWhat sales velocity tells you that pipeline doesn'tWhere AI and automation are most impactful in RevOps todayHow to enable expansion and cross-sell without clunky handoffsThis episode is powered by Passetto, a GTM advisory and software company helping B2B teams build Revenue Sciences™, a measurable system that uncovers bottlenecks and data gaps, transforming go-to-market into a closed-loop engine for confident, scalable growth.

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!On today's episode, we talk with seasoned B2B marketing leader Pratibha Jain, who has spent nearly two decades driving demand, growth, and operational excellence across multiple industries. From cloud computing to HR tech, she's seen—and measured—it all. Together, they unpack how to bridge gaps between marketing, sales, and operations to deliver measurable business impact.Tune in to hear: Why alignment between Marketing Ops, RevOps, and Sales is critical—and how to actually achieve it.Which metrics matter for executives versus your internal marketing team (and why “vanity metrics” still have a place).How to build a unified data and reporting framework to eliminate finger-pointing and drive decision-making.Lessons in event marketing: from planning and execution to post-event follow-up that truly delivers ROI.Practical ways marketing teams can partner with ops to make account-based strategies more effective.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations Professionals Visit UTM.io and tell them the Ops Cast team sent you. Join us at MOps-Apalooza: https://mopsapalooza.com/Save 10% with code opscast10Support the show

In this episode of RevOps Champions, Brendon Dennewill sits down with Tom Lambotte, Founder of AI Simplifier, to explore how leaders can shift their mindset and simplify AI adoption within their organizations. Tom introduces his framework of eight AI mindsets, designed to help business leaders integrate AI practically and strategically—without getting overwhelmed. The conversation covers why foundational knowledge is essential, how to avoid overcomplicating tools, and the importance of A players in scaling effective teams.Key Takeaways:AI integration should be simple, purposeful, and aligned with strategic goals.Foundational understanding leads to more confident, effective use of AI tools.Leaders need to guide teams through mindset shifts, not just technology shifts.Productivity grows when you focus on fewer, higher-value tasks.AI enhances human capabilities—it doesn't replace them.Explore the show at revopschampions.com. Ready to unite your teams with RevOps strategies that eliminate costly silos and drive growth? Let's talk!

Databox is an easy-to-use Analytics Platform for growing businesses. We make it easy to centralize and view your entire company's marketing, sales, revenue, and product data in one place, so you always know how you're performing. Learn More About DataboxSubscribe to our newsletter for episode summaries, benchmark data, and moreWhat would happen if Marketing stopped acting like a request factory and stepped up as the hub of revenue, enablement and strategy? In this episode of Move the Needle, Kyle Lacy (CMO at Docebo, ex-Seismic, ExactTarget, Salesforce) breaks down his "CREM" framework—Communication, Revenue, Enablement, Metrics—and shows how any SaaS team can use it to earn board-level credibility and hit the pipeline number. Along the way we tackle product-level pipeline ownership, building an AI “SWAT team,” and the right way to say “no” to random requests without losing goodwill.You'll learn: • Why saying "yes" to everything is killing marketing's credibility • How to get sales, finance, and marketing aligned on revenue • When product marketing can (and should) own a pipeline number • The metrics that really matter (and the brand metric he's still testing) • How to redefine "enablement" beyond sales decks and collateral

In this episode, we talk about the messy shift from founder-led sales to something more scalable. A lot of teams trip up here. It's not just about hiring the right people, it's about whether the company is actually ready for them.Early sales hires often fail because the structure, process, or timing is off. The conversation introduces the idea of level awareness, a way to figure out if your setup matches the stage you're in. The same problems tend to repeat, whether you're at $1M or $50M ARR.(00:00) - Introduction (02:12) - Challenges in Founder-Led Sales (05:36) - Diagnosing Founder-Led Sales Issues (08:36) - Hiring Challenges and Misconceptions (11:12) - Framework for Scaling Sales Teams (13:39) - Levels of Sales Maturity (19:20) - Defining Level One (23:27) - Hiring for Stage Level Fit (25:25) - Common Founder Regrets (27:13) - Hiring Sales Leaders with Level Awareness (34:53) - Challenges of Premature Scaling (36:31) - Conclusion (37:37) - Next Week: Is Remote Work & AI Making Us Less Productive?

In this episode of CRO Spotlight, Warren Zenna speaks with Adam Crandall, CRO at Addtronics, about his journey from VP of Sales to Chief Revenue Officer in a private equity-backed environment. Adam shares how he developed a scalable go-to-market playbook for Addtronics, a platform acquiring robotics and automation companies focused on advancing human health and technology.Adam discusses the critical distinction between simply hitting revenue targets and building truly scalable revenue systems. He explains his concept of "Revenue Generating Activities" (RGAs) and how he balances centralized strategy with decentralized execution across multiple operating companies. The conversation explores how a CRO must empower teams with tools and processes that function effectively without constant oversight.The episode delves into the unique challenges of the CRO role in private equity, including managing expectations, forecasting accurately, and maintaining team energy through challenging periods. Adam emphasizes the importance of hiring people smarter than yourself, approaching new roles with humility, and maintaining close alignment with the CFO and CEO to navigate market headwinds.Warren and Adam explore the balance between measurable and unmeasurable marketing activities, the importance of brand building, and the essential competencies for today's CROs. Adam shares valuable insights for aspiring and newly appointed CROs, making this a must-listen for revenue leaders looking to excel in complex business environments.

On this week's episode, John Barrows hits the floor at Rev Fest—a one-of-a-kind event hosted by Go Nimbly's CEO, Jen, at the iconic House of Yes in Brooklyn. This isn't your typical sales conference. It's loud, unconventional, and hyper-focused on RevOps—the unsung heroes of modern GTM strategy.In a series of quick-hit, high-impact interviews with leaders from Snowflake, Clay, G2, StrongDM, and Figma, John asks each guest the same three questions:What should sales stop doing?What should sales do more of?And if you had a magic wand, what would you change about the sales & RevOps relationship?The answers? Candid, surprising, and exactly what sales pros and leaders need to hear.Whether you're a rep trying to work better with ops, or a leader looking to scale smarter, this episode delivers direct insights from the RevOps trenches.Are you interested in leveling up your sales skills and staying relevant in today's AI-driven landscape? Visit www.jbarrows.com and let's Make It Happen together!Connect with John on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnbarrows/Connect with John on IG: https://www.instagram.com/johnmbarrows/Check out John's Membership: https://go.jbarrows.com/pages/individual-membership?ref=3edab1 Join John's Newsletter: https://www.jbarrows.com/newsletter

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!On today's episode, we talk with seasoned B2B marketing leader Pratibha Jain, who has spent nearly two decades driving demand, growth, and operational excellence across multiple industries. From cloud computing to HR tech, she's seen—and measured—it all. Together, they unpack how to bridge gaps between marketing, sales, and operations to deliver measurable business impact.Tune in to hear: Why alignment between Marketing Ops, RevOps, and Sales is critical—and how to actually achieve it.Which metrics matter for executives versus your internal marketing team (and why “vanity metrics” still have a place).How to build a unified data and reporting framework to eliminate finger-pointing and drive decision-making.Lessons in event marketing: from planning and execution to post-event follow-up that truly delivers ROI.Practical ways marketing teams can partner with ops to make account-based strategies more effective.Episode Brought to You By MO Pros The #1 Community for Marketing Operations Professionals Visit UTM.io and tell them the Ops Cast team sent you. Join us at MOps-Apalooza: https://mopsapalooza.com/Save 10% with code opscast10Support the show

Welcome back to SmartBug on Tap, where we dig into smarter, more scalable HubSpot strategy for marketing, sales, and RevOps teams. In this episode, Casey Peddicord sits down with Sandy Moore, SmartBug's Senior Director of Account Strategy, to unpack one of the most complex—and misunderstood—topics in enterprise marketing: attribution. Whether you're battling siloed data, long sales cycles, or disconnected touchpoints, attribution reporting can feel impossible to get right. But it can work—and Sandy's here to show you how. From model selection to executive dashboards to AI's evolving impact on reporting, this is a must-listen for anyone working in enterprise RevOps or marketing operations.

In this episode of RevOps Champions, Brendon Dennewill sits down with Nick Powills, CEO of Mainland and franchise marketing veteran, to unpack why many franchise brands struggle to scale. Nick breaks down the true cost of growth, the absence of RevOps thinking in franchising, and why critical metrics like LTV and CAC are often overlooked. He shares how integrating strategic CFOs, aligning operations, and rethinking technology can drive long-term value. Drawing from 20+ years of experience and his book Sticks and Stones, Nick offers a roadmap for building resilient, scalable businesses.Key Takeaways:Why capital and realistic expectations are make-or-breakThe untapped role of strategic CFOs in franchise growthAligning people, process, data, and tech for enterprise valueHow personal challenges can shape stronger business leaders Explore the show at revopschampions.com. Ready to unite your teams with RevOps strategies that eliminate costly silos and drive growth? Let's talk!

Did AI actually kill SEO? Or are recent traffic drops for sites like HubSpot a sign of something else entirely? In this episode, we're joined by Sam Dunning, founder of Breaking B2B and a leading expert on search strategy, to unpack what's actually happening in the world of SEO. We talk about how AI overviews are changing the way people find information, and what it all means for marketers and revenue teams.Sam shares when SEO still makes sense, when it doesn't, and what to focus on if you want to drive real pipeline today. We also dive into AI-generated content, the role of brand in LLM-driven search, and how to build a practical keyword strategy that works in 2025.(00:00) - Introduction (01:58) - Did AI kill SEO? (06:17) - When SEO doesn't make sense (10:05) - Does SEO still take forever to build? (12:24) - Should we just generate AI content? (15:39) - Buidling a Money Keyword Matrix (22:20) - Who should own the matrix? (24:45) - Quicker vs longer strategies (29:07) - Old school SEO in a world of LLMs (34:08) - Brand builders have a step up (36:21) - Common LLM hacks (43:00) - Measuring SEO in a world of LLMs (48:24) - Nothing's changed. Everything's changed. (50:29) - Wrapping up

Text us your thoughts on the episode or the show!On today's episode, we talk with Carissa McCall, Director of Revenue Operations at Liquibase, to tackle one of the most common challenges in marketing and revenue operations: how to balance strategic projects with the unrelenting pull of daily fires and ad hoc requests.Carissa shares a candid and insightful look into her approach to building a sustainable capacity model, prioritization frameworks, and time management practices that empower her lean RevOps team to stay focused, deliver impact, and avoid burnout.Tune in to learn:

In this episode, Brett Hovanec, founder of On the Fly Ops, breaks down the most overlooked (and dangerous) flaws in go-to-market operations - from fuzzy MQL definitions to broken lead handoffs and churn-blind CS processes.

No episódio de hoje do Agro & Tech, Lucas Ordonha recebe Flávio Fratucci, empreendedor e especialista em marketing, tecnologia e IA, para um papo inspirador sobre a revolução digital no agronegócio. Flávio compartilha sua trajetória multifacetada, explica como estratégias de Revenue Operations podem transformar vendas no agro e revela como agentes inteligentes como a Helena — uma IA que atua como vendedora consultiva — estão redesenhando o cenário comercial do campo. Imperdível para quem quer entender como conectar inovação, processos e pessoas da porteira pra fora. #agroetech FICHA TÉCNICAApresentação: Lucas OrdonhaProdução: Agro ResenhaConvidado: Flavio FratucciEdição: Senhor A - https://editorsenhor-a.com.brSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Laura Erdem, Sales Leader - Americas of Dreamdata, shares how sales and marketing teams can work together more effectively by focusing on shared business goals rather than forced alignment. Laura highlights the role of revenue attribution in helping marketers understand which activities are driving real impact, while acknowledging the complexity of measuring modern buyer journeys. She also discusses the value of correlation over time when it comes to linking marketing activities to revenue, and why simplifying processes and working closely with RevOps teams can help marketers feel more confident about their contributions to growth.Key Takeaways:(01:22) Sales and marketing alignment is about mutual respect, not friendship.(05:05) Creativity thrives when teams have time and space to experiment.(09:19) Marketing teams should collaborate with RevOps to understand impact.(13:10) MQLs need to connect to SQLs and revenue, not just impressions.(15:11) Attribution is often indirect; correlation over time is key.(18:03) Good data enables marketers to take accountability for revenue.(22:00) Using LinkedIn intentionally supports both sales and marketing goals.(24:46) Startup principles help enterprises achieve faster growth.(27:48) Transformation teams test ideas before full-scale execution.Resources Mentioned:Dreamdata websitehttps://dreamdata.io/Insightful Links:https://www.pecan.ai/blog/attribution-marketing-machine-learning/https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/communicating-marketings-impact-revenue-elevating-role-isaac-asendele/https://martech.org/new-attribution-challenge-understanding-marketing-sales-work-together/Thanks for listening to the “Marketing Leadership” podcast, brought to you by Listen Network. If you enjoyed this episode, leave a review to help get the word out about the show. And be sure to subscribe so you never miss another insightful conversation. We appreciate the enthusiasm and support from our community. Currently, we are not accepting new guest interview requests as we focus on our existing lineup. We will announce when we reopen for new submissions. In the meantime, feel free to explore our past episodes and stay tuned for updates on future opportunities.#PodcastMarketing #PerformanceMarketing #BrandMarketing #MarketingStrategy #MarketingIntelligence #GTM #B2BMarketing #D2CMarketing #PodcastAds

This week on GTM Live, Carolyn sits down with Sam Dunning, SEO leader and B2B growth expert, to unpack how SEO has dramatically evolved and what top-performing companies must do to adapt.They dive into why traditional SEO—focused on keywords, rankings, and traffic—is now too siloed, and how modern SEO needs to align with revenue, messaging, and the full customer journey.They also explore outdated SEO metrics, the pitfalls of last-touch attribution, and why shifting to a revenue-influence mindset is essential.You'll hear what modern SEO looks like in a revenue-led org, how category narrative (not keyword stuffing) is the new growth lever, and how AI is reshaping both content production and search behavior.Together, Carolyn and Sam challenge the idea that SEO can be a standalone marketing channel, it's a powerful GTM distribution engine when done right.Key topics in this episode:Why SEO can't be a silo anymoreHow to reframe SEO as a distribution strategy, not just a traffic engineWhy aligning SEO with your company's POV drives better outcomesHow AI is reshaping the content and SEO landscapeWhy B2B companies need to track influence, not just rankings or leadsThe biggest SEO measurement mistakes teams still makeWhat high-performing teams are doing differently with content

Databox is an easy-to-use Analytics Platform for growing businesses. We make it easy to centralize and view your entire company's marketing, sales, revenue, and product data in one place, so you always know how you're performing. Learn More About DataboxSubscribe to our newsletter for episode summaries, benchmark data, and moreIn this episode of Move the Needle, we sit down with Amanda Natividad, VP of Marketing at SparkToro and the mind behind the now-mainstream concept of “zero-click content.” Amanda dives into why marketers must stop obsessing over clicks and start optimizing for impressions, reach, and value on investment (VOI). From redefining marketing metrics to helping stakeholders buy into new ways of measuring success, Amanda shares a practical, experience-backed approach to content that builds sustainable impact over time.What you'll learn:Why zero-click content actually drives long-term business growthHow to shift from ROI to VOI and what that looks like in practiceCreative ways to repurpose content to fuel multiple teams and channelsHow to build stakeholder alignment by supporting your colleagues' objectives

We're back with Part 2 of our special anniversary episode! Doug and Jess delve into key insights and reflections from last year as they revisit The Revenue Acceleration Framework. Doug shares how his understanding of the content has evolved, especially with the swift rise of AI. Jess prompts an exploration of new ideas they've encountered since the book's release. For updates on new episodes, follow us on:LinkedIn: Lift Enablement, Doug Davidoff, Jess CardenasSubscribe to our YouTube channel!You can access the show notes and watch the video version of the show on our page. Thanks for listening and remember to just say no to shitty RevOps!

Nobody wants to touch pricing. It's political, it's messy, and if it goes wrong, everyone remembers who led the project. But here's the thing—when it works, it really works.In this episode, Toni and Raul talk about why pricing changes freak people out, what actually happens when you go through with them, and how even small tweaks can drive serious revenue. They've both run pricing projects that paid off big, and they've got the scars to prove it.If pricing's been on your to-do list forever but you keep punting it… this one's for you.(00:00) - Introduction (01:36) - The dread of pricing changes (04:29) - Balancing new prices and losing customers (05:53) - Lead pricing changes without losing your job (08:55) - Who should own pricing changes? (10:10) - Creating a pricing steering committee (12:38) - Consultants in pricing projects (17:00) - Are we over complicating it? (19:44) - Churn and pricing relationship (25:02) - The external and internal narrative (29:47) - Phasing pricing changes (31:10) - Pricing moves in PLG (32:59) - Conclusion

Building software today? Easy. But standing out in a saturated SaaS market—with 40,000+ new apps launching each year—is a whole different game.In this can't-miss episode, Godard Abel—Co-Founder and CEO of G2—breaks down exactly how G2 thrives amidst the AI explosion shaking up the B2B software industry. With 50 new AI software categories emerging in the past year alone, discover how the industry's top platform stays ahead.Tune in to uncover:How G2 navigates an app marketplace flooded by AI startups (and how you can, too).The surprising shifts in buyer behavior that are transforming B2B sales.G2's unique strategy for embedding their platform into leading AI tools like ChatGPT and Microsoft Copilot.Practical tactics for positioning your software as the go-to choice in an overcrowded market.Why brands leveraging authentic, human-driven content dominate AI-powered discovery platforms."AI won't replace humans, but humans with AI will replace humans without AI," Godard warns. If you're serious about staying ahead in sales, marketing, or RevOps, this conversation will equip you with actionable strategies you can use right now.About Godard Abel:Godard has built and sold three software companies. His first two exits—BigMachines and SteelBrick—went to Oracle and Salesforce for a combined $760 million. Now he's running G2, which became the world's largest software marketplace and trains the AI tools your prospects use to research vendors.About the Show:What does it really take to grow a B2B business today? We ask the people doing it.The Belkins Podcast dives deep into the strategies, decisions, and behind-the-scenes insights driving real growth at top B2B companies. Each episode features candid conversations with industry heavyweights—CROs, CMOs, founders, and seasoned operators—who've navigated market downturns, scaled teams, and mastered the realities of revenue growth.You'll hear hard truths, unfiltered insights, and actionable tactics directly from leaders who've actually done the work.Chapters:00:00 - Introducing Godard Abel02:30 - Why Building Software is Easy But B2B Marketing is 10x Harder in 202504:14- 40,000 New Apps Launched on G2 in One Year: Software Market Saturation05:42 - Should Your SaaS Company Pivot to AI or Add AI Features?09:01- Multi-Product Strategy: How to Compete in Multiple Software Categories16:13- HubSpot's API Integration Strategy: How to Build on Existing Platforms19:54- AI Categories See 100% Traffic Growth While Traditional SaaS Declines23:29- Personal Branding vs Corporate Marketing: Why CEO Posts Get 10x More Engagement39:16 - How to Rank in ChatGPT and Claude: Building Authority for AI Training Data (Tips for writers)48:13- How G2 Competes with ChatGPT: Partnership Strategy vs Fighting AI Search53:49 - AI Buying Agents: The Future of B2B Software Purchasing (G2AI Demo)01:15:01- From Single-Function BDRs to Full-Stack Revenue Professionals01:17:24 - From Hiring More to Revenue Per Employee: The New Growth Metric01:23:01 - Thanks for watching!

In this episode of RevOps Champions, Brendon Dennewill sits down with Chad T. Jenkins—entrepreneur, innovator, and founder of SEEDSPARK CoLAB Partners—for a deep dive into the evolving world of business innovation, structured growth, and the Idea Economy.Chad shares insights from his journey launching over 50 ventures and helping companies across North America scale through intentional, systematized approaches. He unpacks his proprietary icVCR Growth Method—focused on Identifying, Clarifying, and Leveraging Vision, Capability, and Reach—and introduces the ISO framework (Identify, Structure, Optimize), which transforms collaboration into a sustainable competitive advantage.Throughout the conversation, Chad emphasizes how friction can signal opportunity, how technology should amplify human connection, and why unique value contributions are key to thriving in today's idea-driven economy. He also explores the opportunities and risks posed by AI, the importance of vision clarity, and how to ensure data and tech remain assets, not liabilities.Listeners will gain practical insights on how to:Identify friction as a catalyst for innovationLeverage existing capabilities to unlock new valueExpand reach through partnerships and networksUse tech to empower, not replace, human collaborationWhether you're an entrepreneur, RevOps leader, or part of a larger organization, this episode delivers a fresh perspective on turning imagination into impact—and building systems that support sustainable, exponential growth.Find more at revopschampions.com

Alexander Lucey, Head of Finance and Ops at Unify GTM, joins to unpack how RevOps complexity evolves as a business scales - especially post-product market fit. He shares how Unify is building a "system of action" (not just a system of record), what it really takes to operationalise outbound with intent data, and why RevOps is a game of constant recalibration. From founder-led selling to functional sales orgs, this one's packed with tactical insight for ops leaders navigating high-growth chaos.

Episode SummaryAlexander DeMoulin joins the OnBase Podcast to share his candid and inspiring journey from a failed salesperson to a respected RevOps leader. In this episode, he offers a behind-the-scenes look at how trust is built between sales and marketing teams—and why “bad data” is often the first and biggest barrier to collaboration.From his apartment (formerly his basement), Alexander details how he used scrappy problem-solving and tools like Clay and Clearbit to rebuild trust with sales by cleaning up data, operationalizing lists, and turning feedback into action. His story is not just about tools and processes, but about earning buy-in and enabling cross-functional teams to take confident action.Key TakeawaysFailure Fuels ClarityAlexander's early struggles in sales revealed his strengths in operations, eventually guiding him into GTM Ops.Trust Is EverythingYears of failed outbound efforts eroded sales trust. Only deep collaboration and transparency could repair it."Bad Data" Isn't Just a Problem—It's the ProblemNo enrichment tool fixes poor internal hygiene. Alexander tackled duplicates, rogue opportunities, and data mismatches at scale.Operational Alignment Enables Strategic FeedbackOnce trust was restored, sales, marketing, and ops could collaboratively address messaging, strategy, and execution with accountability in all directions.Quotes“There's never perfect data in Salesforce. What matters is if your team can trust it enough to act.”Best Moments (01:11) From Fired Salesperson to Ops Leader Alexander recounts the painful but transformative early career journey that shaped his specialization in ops.(06:11) Where Outbound Lists Fail The unsexy truth behind bad data, duplicate accounts, and trust breakdowns between marketing and sales.(11:44) The Turning Point A Slack message on a weekend sparks a rethinking of the entire outbound engine—led by Alexander.(14:06) Peanut Butter and Clay How Alexander turned wild sales criteria (“they need peanut butter on their site”) into scalable enrichment using Clay.(21:03) The 6-Column Salesforce Truth Test His most impactful solution: a system that ensured every account passed a rigorous check before reaching sales.(26:19) From Bad Data to Collaborative Gold With trust rebuilt, feedback loops expanded across ops, sales, and marketing, unlocking real collaboration.Tech RecommendationsClay – A web scraping and enrichment platform that empowered solo operators to iterate quickly, prototype creatively, and scale list building.Clearbit – The foundational enrichment layer that Alexander used for domain normalization and duplicate detection in Salesforce.Resource RecommendationsNewsletter:Growth Unhinged by Kyle Poyar – Offers practical go-to-market and pricing insights, especially relevant in the AI era.About the GuestAlexander DeMoulin is the Director of Go-To-Market Operations at Intercom. With a career that started in university fundraising and took a winding journey through failed sales roles and marketing operations, Alexander brings a grounded, hands-on perspective to operational strategy. He's led transformative work in sales and marketing alignment and is especially known for operationalizing outbound programs through innovative use of enrichment tools like Clay and Clearbit.Connect with Alexander.

In this episode, we're joined by Chris Tottman from Notion Capital. Before becoming a VC, Chris co-founded MessageLabs and helped grow it into a $700 million exit, so he's seen the startup journey from both sides of the table.We talk about what really happens when your product-market fit starts to slip—and why it quietly wrecks your entire go-to-market strategy. Sales start missing targets. Marketing can't get traction. Churn creeps up. But most teams keep pushing forward without realizing the core problem is the product just doesn't fit anymore.(00:00) - Introduction (09:55) - Common mistakes in Go-To-Market strategies (19:54) - Identifying a VC case (30:05) - Importance of Product Market Fit (39:38) - Transitioning from VC to PE (50:07) - Next week: pricing changes

This week on Topline, Sam Jacobs, Asad Zaman, and AJ Bruno dive into how AI-native companies are reorganizing go-to-market teams—with more investment in RevOps and post-sales, fewer traditional marketers, and agent-led outbound replacing SDRs. They break down new data from Iconiq, unpack Figma's S-1 through the lens of revenue quality, and explore what makes these orgs structurally different. Thanks for tuning in! New episodes of Topline drop every Sunday and Thursday. Don't miss GTM2025 — the only B2B tech conference exclusively for GTM executives. Elevate your 2026 strategy and join us from September 23 to 25 in Washington, D.C. Use code TOPLINE for 10% off your GA ticket. Stay ahead with the latest industry developments and emerging go-to-market trends with Topline Newsletter by Asad Zaman. Subscribe today. Tune in to The Revenue Leadership Podcast every Wednesday, where host Kyle Norton talks with real revenue operators and dives deep into what it takes to succeed as a modern revenue leader. You're invited! Join the free Topline Slack channel to connect with 600+ revenue leaders, share insights, and keep the conversation going beyond the podcast! This episode is sponsored by UserEvidence. Want to know what actually moves the needle on trust? Download The Evidence Gap, a data-backed report on the customer proof that drives real results. Get it now at userevidence.com/evidence. Key chapters: (00:00) - Introduction to Topline Podcast (01:44) - Social Media Attacks and Community Dynamics (10:08) - AI Native Companies vs Non-Native Companies (12:58) - Insights from Iconic Data on Go-To-Market Strategies (37:16) - Figma's S1 and Revenue Retention Metrics (53:02) - The Talent War: Meta vs OpenAI  

In this episode, Tom VanLangen, VP of RevOps at Quickbase, challenges the traditional idea of ops as gatekeepers. He shares why now is the time for ops leaders to embrace risk, carve out space for innovation, and say yes to calculated bets - especially when it comes to AI and evolving GTM playbooks.

Most GTM teams are stuck in a 10-year-old playbook — Anthony Enrico, Founder and CEO of LeanScale, shows how to break the cycle. Previously Head of RevOps at Boast.AI, where he helped scale the company past $20M ARR, Anthony now advises and enables dozens of founders and revenue leaders to engineer growth without burning headcount. He also shares how they help high-growth startups scale RevOps with a lean, efficient GTM motion. Specifically, Anthony discusses:(05:25) Startups replace brute-force growth with RevOps to boost revenue per FTE.(15:49) Most teams underinvest in the brand despite its long-term impact.(20:29) Use a data warehouse — not your CRM — for unified reporting.(25:18) Clay transforms RevOps with scalable, integrated data enrichment.(30:48) Default uses AI to route leads and trigger workflows across tools.(35:42) Amplemarket targets fundraisers and job changes with precise outreach.(40:28) AI is most effective when humans fine-tune for quality and authenticity.(44:44) Early days are easiest — scaling means harder niches and messaging.(54:46) Bootstrapping forced them to hire fewer, better people and build processes early.(01:03:33) A solo GTM dashboard tracks pipeline, ops and conversion rates.Resources Mentioned:Anthony Enricohttps://www.linkedin.com/in/anthonyenrico/LeanScale | LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/leanscale/LeanScale | Websitehttps://www.leanscale.teamAmplemarkethttps://www.amplemarket.com/Clayhttps://www.clay.com/Ocean.iohttp://ocean.ioDefaulthttps://www.default.com/ChurnZerohttps://churnzero.com/Riversidehttps://riverside.fm/This episode is brought to you by:Leverage community-led growth to skyrocket your business. From Grassroots to Greatness by author Lloyed Lobo will help you master 13 game-changing rules from some of the most iconic brands in the world — like Apple, Atlassian, CrossFit, Harley-Davidson, HubSpot, Red Bull and many more — to attract superfans of your own that will propel you to new heights. Grab your copy today at FromGrassrootsToGreatness.comEach year the U.S. and Canadian governments provide more than $20 billion in R&D tax credits and innovation incentives to fund businesses. But the application process is cumbersome, prone to costly audits, and receiving the money can take as long as 16 months. Boast automates this process, enabling companies to get more money faster without the paperwork and audit risk. We don't get paid until you do! Find out if you qualify today at https://Boast.AILaunch Academy is one of the top global tech hubs for international entrepreneurs and a designated organization for Canada's Startup Visa. Since 2012, Launch has worked with more than 6,000 entrepreneurs from over 100 countries, of which 300 have grown their startups to seed and Series A stage and raised over $2 billion in funding. To learn more about Launch's programs or the Canadian Startup Visa, visit https://LaunchAcademy.caContent Allies helps B2B companies build revenue-generating podcasts. We recommend them to any B2B company that is looking to launch or streamline its podcast production. Learn more at https://contentallies.com#RevOps #GTMstrategy #B2Bgrowth #Product #Marketing #Innovation #StartUp #GenerativeAI #AI

Not all consultants are worth it. Some drive real impact. Others just burn your time and budget.In this episode, Toni and Raul dive into how to tell the difference. They break down when it actually makes sense to bring in outside help, how to vet someone properly, and the biggest red flags to avoid.You'll learn why consulting is a real skill, what good execution support looks like, and how to think about pricing and value. (00:00) - Introduction (02:48) - Do you actually need consultants? (05:22) - The consulting relationship with startups (08:29) - Identifying red flags (10:41) - The hammer people (16:17) - Consulting is a skill (21:14) - Consultants as challengers (24:40) - Pricing and value in consulting (30:06) - Execution and enablement (33:38) - Summary (35:45) - Next week: Chris Tottman on VCs

In this episode of TECHtonic, TSIA's Executive Director and EVP Thomas Lah is joined by Chris Albro and Chad O'Connor, co-CROs at People.ai, for a frank and forward-looking conversation about how artificial intelligence is transforming modern sales organizations. With decades of sales leadership experience at companies such as Oracle, Siebel, and Outreach, Chris and Chad bring grounded, practical insight into what they call the "Four Sales Rituals": coaching, account planning, opportunity management, and forecasting. These essential processes are often still run on outdated, manual routines, leaving revenue teams inefficient and reactive. But AI is upending that status quo. From automating CRM data capture to uncovering hidden deal risks and enhancing forecast accuracy, this episode examines how forward-thinking sales teams are leveraging AI to work smarter—and win more.But this isn't just an efficiency story. It's about reimagining the role of the sales professional in a world where data and AI augment every decision. The guests explain how AI enables more meaningful customer interactions by freeing reps to focus on strategic, human-driven work, and why clinging to “gut instinct” is becoming a liability. Thomas, Chris, and Chad explore the cultural resistance to AI adoption, the leadership mindsets required to overcome it, and the career-defining opportunities salespeople have if they choose to embrace AI now. Whether you're a CRO, RevOps leader, or quota-carrying AE, this episode is a must-listen wake-up call for anyone in tech sales today.

SaaStr 809: Why Enterprise AI Adoption Is Moving 5-10X Faster Than Cloud with Box's CEO and Co-Founder, IBM's VP for AI and SaaStr's CEO and Founder This conversation between Aaron Levie, CEO & Co-Founder of Box, Raj Datta, Global Vice President for Software and A.I. Partnerships at IBM and Jason Lemkin, CEO and Founder of SaaStr, covers the evolution from chat interfaces to digital labor models, the integration of AI to automate complex tasks, and the emergence of new paradigms for businesses deploying AI agents. Key topics include the distinction between AI agents and assistants, the development of proprietary data models, and the rapid pace of AI adoption. With real-world examples from companies like IBM and Box, this session offers insights into how AI is reshaping software ecosystems, enhancing enterprise capabilities, and potentially redefining market moats. ------------------ This episode of the SaaStr podcast is sponsored by: Attention.com   Tired of listening to hours of sales calls? Recording is yesterday's game. Attention.com unleashes an army of AI sales agents that auto-update your CRM, build custom sales decks, spot cross-sell signals, and score calls before your coffee's cold. Teams like BambooHR and Scale AI already automate their Sales and RevOps using customer conversations. Step into the future at attention.com/saastr   ------------------   Hey everyone, we just hosted 10,000 of you at the SaaStr Annual in the SF Bay Area, and now get ready, because SaaStr AI is heading to London! On December 2nd and 3rd, we're bringing SaaStr AI to the heart of Europe. This is your chance to connect with 2,500+ SaaS and AI executives, founders, and investors, all sharing the secrets to scaling in the age of AI.   Whether you're a founder, a revenue leader, or an investor, SaaStr AI in London is where the future of SaaS meets the power of AI. And we just announced tickets and sponsorships, so don't wait! Head to SaaStrLondon.com to grab yours and join us this December in London. SaaStr AI in London —where SaaS meets AI, and the next wave of innovation begins. See you there!

In a world of AI-generated noise and automated outreach, Cliff Simon has built a multi-million dollar business by doing something simple but rare: showing up in person.In this episode, Cliff shares how he turned events, community dinners, and authentic relationships into a powerful go-to-market strategy. He breaks down why most event-based approaches fail, what it really means to play the long game, and how founders and revenue leaders can drive growth without relying on cold outreach.Never miss a new episode! Join our newsletter at revenueformula.substack.com(00:00) - Introduction (01:53) - The Importance of In-Person (06:01) - The Role of Pavilion (08:08) - Building Relationships (12:09) - Building for Long Term (16:41) - Modern Networking Tactics (21:58) - Evaluating Event Success (24:57) - Common Misconceptions in Event Strategy (26:34) - Effective Event Strategies (31:39) - The Power of Personal Branding (32:13) - Comparing Rev Ops Events (36:28) - Next Week: What You Need to Know About Consultants  

In this episode, we're joined by Tina Kung, Co-Founder and CTO of Nue.io, a rising CPQ & Billing platform redefining the quote-to-cash experience for modern SaaS businesses. With a career spanning Ariba, Oracle, Zuora, Salesforce, CA Technologies, and more, Tina brings over two decades of experience building and evolving four generations of CPQ and Billing systems.

This week on GTM Live, Carolyn and Trevor walk through a practical, step-by-step breakdown of how companies should be measuring GTM performance—beyond the outdated funnel reports and measurement models that most teams are still relying on.This episode is structured like a mini masterclass: You'll learn the real stages of the GTM revenue factory, what metrics to track at each one, and how to spot the signals that lead to qualified pipeline before opportunities even exist.They also cover how most common GTM measurement systems fail, and what leading companies are doing instead, and why this shift helps teams make better, faster decisions across Marketing, Sales, and RevOps.Whether you're struggling to prove impact, spot performance issues early, or get your execs aligned on what's actually driving growth—this one's for you.Key topics in this episode:Why funnel reports and common Marketing metrics often give a false sense of progressThe disconnect between GTM activity and what leaders actually want to knowHow to rethink pipeline measurement and what metrics to rely on as your north starWhat high-performing companies are tracking at each GTM stageHow to evolve your dashboard into a true Revenue Command CenterThis episode is powered by ⁠⁠Passetto⁠⁠. We help high-growth and equity-backed companies turn GTM data into better decisions, faster. We unify your GTM and financial data, identify your growth levers, and help you scale. Part SaaS, part advisory. Visit ⁠⁠passetto.com⁠.

SaaStr 808: AI and Cybersecurity: Scaling Rubrik to a Billion Dollar Enterprise with Rubrik's Co-Founder and CTO In this episode, Kit Colbert, former CTO of VMware and Platform CTO at Invisible, sits down with Arvind  Nithrakashyap, Co-founder and CTO of Rubrik, to discuss the company's journey and innovations over the last 11 years.    Arvind  shares insights into Rubrik's platform for cyber resilience, their approach to scaling with multiple product pillars, and their unique use of hackathons to spark innovation. The conversation also delves into customer satisfaction strategies, the implementation of AI in both their products and internal processes, and how they measure the ROI of AI initiatives. With highlights of Rubrik's 39% year-over-year growth, a Net Promoter Score (NPS) of 80, and the launch of their AI product Ana, this episode offers valuable takeaways for businesses looking to scale and innovate.   ------------------ This episode of the SaaStr podcast is sponsored by: Attio This episode is brought to you by Attio — the AI-native CRM. Connect your email, and Attio instantly builds a powerful CRM - with every company, contact and interaction you've ever had. Get 15% off your first year at https://attio.com/saastr   ------------------ This episode of the SaaStr podcast is sponsored by: Attention.com Tired of listening to hours of sales calls? Recording is yesterday's game. Attention.com unleashes an army of AI sales agents that auto-update your CRM, build custom sales decks, spot cross-sell signals, and score calls before your coffee's cold. Teams like BambooHR and Scale AI already automate their Sales and RevOps using customer conversations. Step into the future at attention.com/saastr ------------------ Hey everyone, we just hosted 10,000 of you at the SaaStr Annual in the SF Bay Area, and now get ready, because SaaStr AI is heading to London! On December 2nd and 3rd, we're bringing SaaStr AI to the heart of Europe. This is your chance to connect with 2,500+ SaaS and AI executives, founders, and investors, all sharing the secrets to scaling in the age of AI. Whether you're a founder, a revenue leader, or an investor, SaaStr AI in London is where the future of SaaS meets the power of AI. And we just announced tickets and sponsorships, so don't wait! Head to SaaStrLondon.com to grab yours and join us this December in London. SaaStr AI in London —where SaaS meets AI, and the next wave of innovation begins. See you there!

Nick Hill is the Director of Sales Enablement at Crunchbase, with a track record of building performance-driven coaching programs at Miro, Sprinklr, and beyond. In this episode of Make It Happen Mondays, John Barrows and Nick dive deep into all things enablement—from structure and timing to coaching reps and aligning with RevOps for real impact.They explore when companies should actually invest in enablement, how to differentiate training vs. coaching vs. enablement, and how to hold frontline managers accountable in the process. Nick shares practical ideas for simplifying call coaching (without listening to 50 hours of recordings) and lays out his vision for how AI will transform sales enablement in the years ahead.If you're in sales leadership, enablement, or just trying to scale a winning team, this conversation is a must-listen.Are you interested in leveling up your sales skills and staying relevant in today's AI-driven landscape? Visit www.jbarrows.com and let's Make It Happen together!Connect with John on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnbarrows/Connect with John on IG: https://www.instagram.com/johnmbarrows/Check out John's Membership: https://go.jbarrows.com/pages/individual-membership?ref=3edab1Visit our sponsor Website: https://otter.ai/Connect with Nick on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholasahill Check out Nick's Website: https://about.crunchbase.com/