Podcasts about Homestuck

We finally learned what Homestuck is! This week, Emily and V look at a very special double-holiday: April 13, the day that Neil banged out the tunes and, also, Homestuck Day. Who is Neil? The greatest pianist who ever lived, that's who. And what's Homestuck? That was our question every goddamn day of our lives until Emily dipped a toe into the extremely deep water that is the Homestuck multiverse and came back alive to tell V about it. Sources Fanlore The Entirety of Homestuck in Five Minutes This Week In Fandom History is a fandom-centric podcast that tells you… what happened this week in fandom history! Follow This Week in Fandom History on Tumblr at @thisweekinfandomhistory You can support the show via our Patreon at http://www.patreon.com/thisweekinfandomhistory.  If you have a fannish company, event, or service and would like to sponsor or partner with TWIFH, please contact us via our website. Please remember to rate the show 5 stars on your listening platform of choice!

Dirk and Dave talk a lot in this one and I think that's really all that matters.Also go read my dirkkat fic! As of publishing this episode, I have posted a chapter and have two more ready to go!Moosie on itchMoosie's personal websiteMusic and editing by DomiDomi's SoundcloudDomi's Ko-FiWebsiteNewsletterKo-fiDiscordBlueskyYoutubeTiktokThe Unofficial Homestuck CollectionE118 ★ Support this podcast ★

A little filler episode while I deal with my own filler! (haha because I've been having a lot of dental appointments. You get it? Do you get the joke? I'm funny, right??)Outro music by DomiDomi's SoundcloudDomi's Ko-FiWebsiteKo-fiDiscordBlueskyYoutubeTiktokThe Unofficial Homestuck Collection ★ Support this podcast ★

It's the Weekend! This week Octopimp returns to confront his past, and talk Sonic, Homestuck, Minecraft and more!  Are you ready to geek out this weekend? Join Jesse and Dodger on the Geekenders podcast as they bring you the ultimate dose of geekiness. From their hilarious banter to their in-depth discussions, this is the podcast you've been waiting for. Follow them now and discover why they are the number one geek podcast without a doubt. Subscribe and let the geeking begin! Theme by: MegaRan Animated Intro by: JulesDrawz Want to watch live, tune in to Dodgers twitch every Friday at 11am est/8am pst : https://www.twitch.tv/dexbonus Hosted on Audioboom. See https://audioboom.com/about/privacy for more information.

Part two of Domi guesting as we now talk about the kids and trolls all hanging around talking!Moosie on itchMoosie's personal websiteMusic and editing by DomiDomi's SoundcloudDomi's Ko-FiWebsiteNewsletterKo-fiDiscordBlueskyYoutubeTiktokThe Unofficial Homestuck CollectionE117 ★ Support this podcast ★

This week we have Domi on to help explain Caliborn's Masterpiece as our resident Heir of Time-Heart! And then I talk about Vriska for a long, long time. Long enough that this has turned into a two parter. Whoops!Moosie on itchMoosie's personal websiteMusic and editing by DomiDomi's SoundcloudDomi's Ko-FiWebsiteNewsletterKo-fiDiscordBlueskyYoutubeTiktokThe Unofficial Homestuck CollectionE116 ★ Support this podcast ★

Sam, Ari, and Bastian march ever onward towards the end of Homestuck, getting deeper into Act 6 Act 6 Intermission 5. Conversations with and about alternate selves ensue. Roxy makes a space egg. Dave and Dirk have a rooftop feelings jam. (Vriska) now feels neutral to horses.This episode covers pages 7672 - 7803 of Andrew Hussie's Homestuck, which is best read on the Unofficial Homestuck Web Archive.The Faygo flavors tasted this episode are Superpop and Bubblepop, both of which are new for summer 2025. Get in touch!Leave us a message at our tumblr: https://seriousbusinesspod.tumblr.com

Mike and Danny talk with long time podcast regular Brian! Who is Brian? What kind of TTRPGs does he like? And Brian fan casts Danny and Mike as Pokemon Gym Leaders?!Get your late pledge for the IRCB Zine, Totally Not A Cult: https://ircb.fyi/zineThe Adarvaan #1 Kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jdheriford/the-adarvaan-issue-1-heriford-wells-maiolo-wandsThe Song Survives Kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/foreignpresscomics/the-song-survives-one-shot-comic/Timestamps:00:00:00 - Start/Last Week in Comics00:03:21 - Aliens vs. Avengers00:09:02 - Daredevil: The Man Without Fear00:18:07 - Confession00:22:59 - Discord Picks00:23:40 - Ultimate Spider-Man: Married With Children00:26:48 - Daredevil: Cold Day in Hell #100:31:34 - Homestuck00:41:43 - IRCB Panelist Spotlight ft. Brian!01:20:20 - Wrap Support us on Patreon to get access to our Patreon-only series: IRCB Movie Club, Saga of Saga, Giant Days of Our Lives, A Better Batmobile, and more! patreon.com/ircbpodcastEmail: ircbpodcast@gmail.comTwitter: @ircbpodcastInstagram: @ircbpodcastDiscord: discordapp.com/invite/E8JUB9sReddit: ireadcomicbooks.reddit.comIRCB GoodreadsMerch: ircbpodcast.com/shop

The gang tries some black cherry faygo, and keep talking about A6A6I5 of Homestuck, now with Muse!Calliope and Jasprosesprite^2. Calliope returns to the land of the living. Karkat and Kanaya visit the queen of monsters. The Freudian slips continue. This episode covers pages 7561 - 7671 of Andrew Hussie's Homestuck, which is best read on the Unofficial Homestuck Web Archive.Get in touch!Leave us a message at our tumblr: https://seriousbusinesspod.tumblr.com

Time to follow the directions of a bloody scarf. And figure out a downside of turning off quirks.Moosie on itchMoosie's personal websiteMusic and editing by DomiDomi's SoundcloudDomi's Ko-FiWebsiteNewsletterKo-fiDiscordBlueskyYoutubeTiktokThe Unofficial Homestuck CollectionE115 ★ Support this podcast ★

In our very last interview of Season 3, we chat with Ev about spontaneous goblinization, nanite infestation, and a future Seattle that's even grimmer than the one we live in. Quite a bit of Seattle talk in this one, but also a lot of discussion of playing a TTRPG in a grounded and realistic world where actions have consequences. Also, spoilers for iZombie, Mr Robot, and possibly Oceans Eleven? Jake would like to sincerely apologize for making a Homestuck reference.In addition to the Shadowrun system, Ev mentions a few other science fiction-themed TTRPG systems:ParaoniaEclipse PhaseRogue TraderOnly WarJake mentions this Flashlight from last season where we tried out a system that uses a bunch of lookup tables for combat.To get used to the rhythm and rules of Shadowrun, Ev recommends checking out the Shadowrun subreddit, the Complex Action YouTube channel, this massive PDF tome called Shadowrun Storytime, and the Shadowrun: Dragonfall and Shadowrun: Hong Kong CRPGs. You can find more about Ev's music and events here and you can find more about Impact Foundation events here. Maybe we'll head to a future Impact Foundation event to interview people about their PCs? This week's intro comes from Rex, who was a guest in Season 2! Go check out Rex's writing projects.If you like the music on the show, go check out more of Reilly's music. Follow us wherever you get your podcasts, including Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube. You can also get episodes right from the source at our RSS feed. If you enjoy Campaign Spotlight, consider subscribing to our Patreon. For more on the show, including links to all our social media, visit our website.    ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

The Shakespeare Book Club meets tonight to talk about A Midsummer Night's Dream. Zoom link here for paid subscribers. Paid subscribers can also join this chat thread and ask me (or other subscribers) whatever they want. Tell us what you are reading, what you disagreed with me about this month. Ask niche questions someone here might be able to answer. Ask me anything you like (I might not answer!) This is an experiment... let's see where it goes... Join the chat.Katherine Dee InterviewWhen we have strong feelings about literary characters, isn't that somewhat the same as ficto-romantics—people who fall in love with fictional people and create part of the identity around that relationship? This is the sort of question you can talk about with Katherine Dee. I am a long-time fan so I was delighted to be able to ask her about the way AI is changing writing, fandom in culture, role play writing, fan fiction, ficto-romance, internet culture, and the way technology is changing what we read, how AI is changing Katherine's writing, and how she uses ChatGPT to discuss her emotional life (she says it is pretty good!). Katherine is one of the most interesting Substackers, writing at default.blog, as well as writing for other publications. You might remember her piece called “No. Culture isn't stuck”. I find her case-studies especially interesting (this is the one we talked about in the interview). Katherine is not judgemental: she simply tires to understand. Here is her Twitter. Here's what Katherine told me about fandom in modern culture.Henry: Why is there so much fandom in modern culture? We've got LARPing, people having AI boyfriends and girlfriends, fictoromance. You're writing about all these things all the time. Why is this such a big part of culture?Katherine: That's a great question. I think that the foundational reason is our culture is oriented around consuming media. And this is, you know, like, the subculture of media consumption is always going to be a fandom. But also, like, other things have eroded, right? Like, you know, it almost feels cliche to bring up, but everything from, like, third places to organized religion, you know, to national identity, you know, all of these things, right? What remains in its status is fandom. And so, you know, the marriage of the erosion of these other sort of cultural cornerstones, plus the importance of consuming media and the way we communicate, it creates this perfect storm. And I've even argued that, like, fandom is, in a way, like, you know, the main way that we know how to organize at this point. It's the chief way we express ourselves. You know, politics tend to, like, devolve into fandom. But the question is, like, well, what else do we have, really?And here's part of our discussion about ficto-romance.Henry: Now, about ficto romance. I find this, like, really fascinating and I've been reading your case studies avidly. But I also am confused, like, people have always had strong feelings for characters in novels, right? So I read an essay, a 19th century essay about Pride and Prejudice recently. And I mean, this made me laugh. Some people don't like it. But the critic was like, these are the five most attractive heroines in 19th century English fiction and had, like, robust views about what made these fictional women attractive. What is different or what feels different about ficto romance today?Katherine: You know, I don't think it is that different is the thing. I think a lot of stuff maybe feels different because it's somehow like more lowbrow or we don't respect the expression as much. I also think the role of art has changed. Like, we don't see, you know, like I talk to a lot of I actually posted an interview today with a guy who identifies as fictoromantic and his fictive other, which is the term they use instead of like significant other, is from Homestuck, which is a web comic that was really popular on Tumblr and is still very popular on Tumblr. And I think, like, ordinary people don't consider that art. Right. And so, like, it's difficult. Like, you see someone who maybe has this, like, devotion to, you know, someone in a great novel or maybe to, like, you know, Aphrodite or Venus or something like that. And they're producing what we're already primed to think of as great art in service of this love. And because the media properties that many of these people are emotionally attached to feel lowbrow, we take it less seriously and we think they're crazy. But if you actually talk to them, they're not crazy at all. I mean, it's a spectrum of expression. But I've never spoken to someone who feels like they're in active psychosis or something. It feels very familiar. Like I brought up in this interview that I posted today, you know, the way this young man was talking about this Homestuck character. And this is going to sound, I mean, this is going to sound crazy, maybe, but it reminded me of Mirabai, who I don't know if I'm pronouncing her name correctly, but she is this Hindu poet who had this great devotion for Krishna. And it was it felt very similar to me. It's just that it's reskinned in this way that is there's some dissonance.There's a complete transcript of the interview below. Transcript (AI generated so there may be errors)[00:00:00] Henry Today, I'm talking with Katherine Dee, the internet culture writer and the author of the default friend, Substack. Katherine, welcome.[00:00:11] Katherine: Hey, thanks for having me.[00:00:15] Henry: So how is AI changing writing right now and how is it going to change it in the next, say, couple of years?[00:00:22] Katherine: In the next couple of years, I'm not sure. But right now, I've noticed a lot of people who write news are using AI. AI is interesting because it's like, you know, if you read a lot of fan fiction, for example, there's like a fan fiction register. And so if you then go and read like a mass market paperback, you know, a lot of these people start off in fan fiction, you can kind of tell like who's who, right, because there's certain phrases that are common, certain slang. And the same is similar with AI, right? And so I can, I've, I use AI so much as like a chat companion, that there's like certain phrases that I know, are very specific to AI. So I've picked up from like, talking to it and, you know, it being sort of like a friend of mine, for lack of a better word, that people who write news and write digests, use AI a lot. And I've also noticed that people do like, polish on their writing, like they will fix the grammar, or what have you, which I think is less, less scandalous. But I do think that there's also a backlash, right? There is this, people want to sound human. And it's, it's opening up like, more space somehow, right, somehow, more, even more space for like, messy confessional writing. And maybe just, you know, validating that our, our, our long love for it, is never, is never going away.[00:02:03] Henry: Yeah, just when you thought there couldn't be any more personal essays, right, here they come.[00:02:07] Katherine: There's even, Substack really like, created an explosion of them. I thought, I thought it was over, but it absolutely is not.[00:02:17] Henry: I was amazed the other day, because I've been writing like, I would say quite a balanced view of AI, but people take it to be highly positive. And someone who was writing against it, actually said in their piece, oh, that last sentence was written by AI, by the way. And I was like, it's insane to me that that would happen. If you're so against it, but also that people don't realize that if he hadn't mentioned that, you wouldn't have said, oh, that was an AI sentence.[00:02:46] Katherine: Well, you don't know that it, I do think, and I went, I can't quite figure out what, what is the tell for AI writing when there's certain words that I could list, but there is a register, right? So if you're using it a lot, like, I use, I use like deep research all the time to find like, contact information for people. If I have a problem in my life, it's like, I asked chat GPT first, right? So there's like words like, you know, people have pointed out that it uses an em dash a lot. It uses the word crucial a lot. The word realm, weirdly, I've noticed, right? So you kind of internalize it, right? But there's also a register that is very like, AI specific. And I think, all this to say, I think people can tell.[00:03:38] Henry: You said you're talking to it a lot, like every day. What are you talking to it about?[00:03:45] Katherine: Like, you know, if I get anxiety about something that feels silly, or like, if I get upset about something, sometimes, like, I can't, because I'm online so much, like, very susceptible to getting this sort of, like, internet tunnel vision, where I don't know if I'm like, if my reaction is really to scale, I try not to get into, like, fights on the timeline or anything. But it doesn't mean I don't have the reaction, right? So I'll ask AI, like, I had, you know, this back and forth with someone on Twitter, and I feel like, pretty upset about it, am I overreacting? And it's not always actually, like, a good tool for that. But even just the process of me, like slowing down to ask, has made me, I think, a little bit more rational.[00:04:35] Henry: Do you think you're better at seeing when something's written with AI, because you've got this background in fan fiction and online writing, so you're, like, in a way, very highly trained on different internet registers? Whereas to some of us, it's like, people are just doing internet speak, and we don't have that kind of discrimination between the types?[00:04:55] Katherine: No, I think that if you read a lot of anything, you sort of, you pick up, you become fluent in the tone. People who, you know, there's an academic register, right? Like people who are in STEM speak in a particular way and write in a particular way. And it's not necessarily that the topics that they're talking about, it's certain phrases. People who are the humanities, there's similar things. And I think we're not conscious of being able to detect these different tones or registers, but everyone is capable of doing this.[00:05:34] Henry: How many people, how many, like, prominent people or people who are known for their voice do you think are using AI without telling us?[00:05:43] Katherine: I can only think of one who I would bet money that they're doing it. They mostly send out, like, a news digest. So it might be, you know, I haven't noticed it in their, like, opinion pieces. But in, like, their news digests, definitely, right? There's all sorts of tells. But there's, I mean, there has to be more, right? Because there's so many people who have interesting ideas, but aren't necessarily articulate. And there's probably a lot of people who collaborate with AI, right? So it's, they will have the, you know, Chachapiti or Claude or whatever, structure their piece. And then they will go in and edit it and put it in their voice. Or even the reverse, like, they'll structure it, and then they'll have it be polished or fix the grammar or put it in the tone that they want, and then they'll do minor tweaks. I think that is probably super common. But, like, wholesale, yeah, I've only picked up on this one person.[00:06:48] Henry: How close are we to a time when writers are going to feel obliged to put a little disclaimer saying this is what I do and don't use AI for in my writing? Or will that not come?[00:06:59] Katherine: Some people already do that. I don't want to skip ahead to mention our conversation, but I know we're going to be talking a little bit about fan fiction. And on fan fiction sites, there is, like, an AI-generated tag. And then in some digital magazines, they'll be like, this piece was generated with AI or, you know, was edited with AI or something like that. But I think there's probably a lot of shame around it. And people don't want to feel like they're not a real writer. We don't really know where to place or how to conceive of these tools. And it's complicated, right? And you see these conversations playing out in fandom quite a bit. And you see just how complex it is. I don't think there are easy answers.[00:07:53] Henry: Why is there so much fandom in modern culture? We've got LARPing, people having AI boyfriends and girlfriends, fictoromance. You're writing about all these things all the time. Why is this such a big part of culture?[00:08:06] Katherine: That's a great question. I think that the foundational reason is our culture is oriented around consuming media. And this is, you know, like, the subculture of media consumption is always going to be a fandom. But also, like, other things have eroded, right? Like, you know, it almost feels cliche to bring up, but everything from, like, third places to organized religion, you know, to national identity, you know, all of these things, right? What remains in its status is fandom. And so, you know, the marriage of the erosion of these other sort of cultural cornerstones, plus the importance of consuming media and the way we communicate, it creates this perfect storm. And I've even argued that, like, fandom is, in a way, like, you know, the main way that we know how to organize at this point. It's the chief way we express ourselves. You know, politics tend to, like, devolve into fandom. But the question is, like, well, what else do we have, really?[00:09:22] Henry: Right. Fandom, but also anti-fandom, right? I think that's a big part of culture.[00:09:25] Speaker 3: It's like. Yeah, absolutely.[00:09:28] Henry: Now, about ficto romance. I find this, like, really fascinating and I've been reading your case studies avidly. But I also am confused, like, people have always had strong feelings for characters in novels, right? So I read an essay, a 19th century essay about Pride and Prejudice recently. And I mean, this made me laugh. Some people don't like it. But the critic was like, these are the five most attractive heroines in 19th century English fiction and had, like, robust views about what made these fictional women attractive. What is different or what feels different about ficto romance today?[00:10:14] Katherine: You know, I don't think it is that different is the thing. I think a lot of stuff maybe feels different because it's somehow like more lowbrow or we don't respect the expression as much. I also think the role of art has changed. Like, we don't see, you know, like I talk to a lot of I actually posted an interview today with a guy who identifies as fictoromantic and his fictive other, which is the term they use instead of like significant other, is from Homestuck, which is a web comic that was really popular on Tumblr and is still very popular on Tumblr. And I think, like, ordinary people don't consider that art. Right. And so, like, it's difficult. Like, you see someone who maybe has this, like, devotion to, you know, someone in a great novel or maybe to, like, you know, Aphrodite or Venus or something like that. And they're producing what we're already primed to think of as great art in service of this love. And because the media properties that many of these people are emotionally attached to feel lowbrow, we take it less seriously and we think they're crazy. But if you actually talk to them, they're not crazy at all. I mean, it's a spectrum of expression. But I've never spoken to someone who feels like they're in active psychosis or something. It feels very familiar. Like I brought up in this interview that I posted today, you know, the way this young man was talking about this Homestuck character. And this is going to sound, I mean, this is going to sound crazy, maybe, but it reminded me of Mirabai, who I don't know if I'm pronouncing her name correctly, but she is this Hindu poet who had this great devotion for Krishna. And it was it felt very similar to me. It's just that it's reskinned in this way that is there's some dissonance.[00:12:35] Henry: So you don't think, because I read that interview and I thought it was great. Do you don't think like the behavior that the person you interviewed, like it's actively living with this fictoromantic partner and there's lots of like daily behavior involved. Right. And it's part of the structure of this person's life. Whereas, you know, in the past, like Diana Wynne-Jones used to say that she got a lot of letters about Hal's moving castle from, I think, basically teenage girls who fell in love with Hal. But that would be like. Almost entirely in their imagination, maybe if they wouldn't structure their life around it, is there some kind of difference there?[00:13:18] Katherine: What is different is I feel like because everything's commercialized, there's maybe more of an opportunity to buy products associated with the character that they're attached to. But if you look at the way people, most people, not all of them are expressing these relationships, like I ask these people, what does your relationship look like? It looks like creating art. And, you know, in another time, maybe they wouldn't have become a famous artist or whatever. But like I think it would have been more socially acceptable somehow. The student we used was Puppet, which is sort of maybe a little silly. But Puppet, who's the young man I interviewed, when I asked him, what does your relationship with Ro Strider look like? He said that he writes, he draws, he fantasizes. There is also, you know, there was also like a commercial component, like buying the body pillow. And that's maybe a little different. But to me, it reminds me of just any sort of creative expression. It's just phrased in a slightly different way.[00:14:36] Henry: Right, right. And one thing I liked about that interview was that I don't do the creative activities that this person does, but I was like, well, I speak pretty intensely about fictional characters. It made me sort of I was sort of forced to think, like, how different am I from this guy? Like I'm I have very strong feelings about people in books.[00:14:59] Katherine: I think a lot of us do.[00:15:02] Henry: Or movies, right? For a lot of people, it's movie characters, right?[00:15:04] Katherine: Yeah. I mean, that's that's the beauty of like dramatic structure, right? Like it you it allows us to suspend our disbelief and we feel like we're within the world of the narrative. And if you really like it, you want to take that feeling with you after the show has ended or the book has ended.[00:15:23] Henry: So I guess you're saying that this what it looks very weird to a lot of people, but it's not really so different from the way people grieve about like when Matthew Perry died and people were just completely distraught. It's kind of a similar thing because they had this strong identification with his character.[00:15:42] Katherine: Yeah, I mean, it's more intense, but like there were probably people who felt a really strong connection to Matthew Perry or to any celebrity. And again, it applies also to fictional characters, of course.[00:16:03] Henry: So what are people getting from fan fiction that they're not getting from other sorts of art? Like why is fan fiction so big now?[00:16:13] Katherine: It's playing in the space of a media property and an established world that you already have an attachment to. You know, people bring up a lot like there's, you know, there's certain stories that are like retold over and over and over again. Right. There's certain characters that reappear throughout novels through centuries. Right. And it's a similar idea. Right. It's like you enjoy the world of the story and you want to make it your own. Fan fiction is incredibly diverse. Right. There's some fan fiction that is that moves away from the canon so much you almost wonder, like, why, you know, why aren't you just creating an original work? But there's something that lies in there. And I also think part of it is the types of media that people are consuming are they already have these fandoms set up. Right. So it's it's it's it almost invites that form of expression.[00:17:21] Henry: Do you mean like you read Harry Potter and then you realize that there's already a massive Harry Potter fan fiction ecosystem so you can… it is to us what a theme park was to the 80s or whatever.[00:17:35] Katherine: Yeah, there's there's already this there's already somewhere to go and to meet people.[00:17:41] Henry: I was researching it earlier because I like I know nothing about it. And obviously I was asking deep research. And as I was reading all the stuff it gave me, I was like, people are trying to create almost like folktales based on this, you know, whatever the the original sources in this collectivizing impulse, whereas you say like it diverges, it has these repetitive tropes that they almost want to turn it into these kind of fairy tales or a collection of stories like that. So it seemed it seemed quite interesting to me. Now, you personally, you wrote on your sub stack, you said my lineage isn't literature, it's text based online role playing. Yes. Tell me what that what is that?[00:18:28] Katherine: So I so I always wanted to be a writer, but I wanted to be a writer because I would role play and role play, role playing the way I did it is is like playing, you know, it's like imaginative play that children do, like with Barbies or, you know, even just themselves. But it's it's translated to text because it's it's mediated. And so I would do, you know, I would role play all the time. And it wasn't like I was a voracious reader. I never was. And I don't think I am now. And I think it's it's actually reflected in my writing, actually, but it was because I was like role playing all the time. And I think a lot of people are like this, right? Like I didn't even really write fan fiction. I preferred role playing, which is a little bit more dramatic than than just than just writing. But I but at the time I thought, oh, because I'm I am literally writing something down that I am a writer. But really, it's more like theater, if anything.[00:19:28] Henry: So tell me what's happening, like you would be logging on to some kind of forum and you would be writing as if you were a particular person or character in this in the scenario and other people would be responding.[00:19:43] Katherine: Yeah, it's it's like acting, but through text, so you could do when I started, you could either do it in a chat room, there is text based role playing games, which I didn't actually participate in, like mod some multi user dungeons. I didn't I didn't even know those existed at the time. And then there was forums where and so there would be a theme and the theme could either be from a fandom like Harry Potter, for example, or it could just be a setting. So like high school or the beach or, you know, like an apartment complex and you would design a character and then you would it was it sort of looked like a collaborative story. But really, it was like you were you were just you could only control your own character. So you would just write a description of like, you know, someone says the setting is the beach and then character one comes in and describes what character one is doing and then character two comes in. And, you know, sometimes you would be ignored. Sometimes people would start a fight with you. All sorts of things could happen. And I it's I spent most of my time doing this for like over a decade.[00:20:53] Henry: So are there certain areas where this doesn't does not happen? Like, is there Jane Austen role playing or is it is that not the sort of premise?[00:21:02] Katherine: No, there's role playing for everything. There's like historical role plays. There's, you know, any novel under the sun. You could probably find someone, you know, more like Jane Austen. There's like a there's a rich role playing tradition. People love Jane Austen novels. Something I would do very often is if I was learning about a particular historical period in school, I would get like I would have I would develop these sort of like parasocial attachments with certain historical figures or even settings very similar to the way people feel about fandom. And then I would go home and role play the historical setting and I would read a lot about, you know, whatever it was, ancient Rome or whatever. And it would help me in school because I would be like acting it out online.[00:21:49] Henry: Yeah. You're working on fan fiction and A.I. at the moment. And I'm interested in this because I have this feeling everyone's like A.I. is only going to produce slop. It's not going to do anything new. But I've seen people. I've saw an interesting essay on Substack about someone writing their own fan fiction with A.I. And I sort of I wonder if the confluence of these two things is going to start leading to lots of very new types of fiction and potentially even I don't I mean, this is like a long term speculation, but even some kind of new type of literature. Tell us what you're working on with that.[00:22:32] Katherine: So I was curious the way I was curious, like how people were using A.I. in fandom spaces. And right now it looks it looks like there's this prohibition against using A.I. like people do you do create A.I. generated fan fics, but there's something about like the process and the love that you put into writing your fan fiction that people are very precious about. And they feel that A.I. infringes on this. And part of it is they're very concerned about like, where is the data coming from? Right. Is it somehow unethical because of the data that these LLMs are trained on? But where you see a real difference is people who use A.I. to role play. And that's where it's it seems like people are more open to it. It the feeling the feelings and reactions are a bit more mixed, but there does seem to be like a debate in different fandom spaces. Like some people argue like A.I. is an accessibility issue, like some people aren't good at writing. Maybe English isn't their first language. And this opens up a lot of space for them. And they feel like they're they're collaborating with this tool. Other people say that it's it's unethical and that since they're taking away the process, it is it's harming the work.[00:24:04] Henry: If they could be convinced or, you know, to their own satisfaction that it's not unethical, the data, the data sets and everything like it would be fine. Would they still just not want to do it? It would be fine. Would they still just not want to do it? Because this is the wrong phrase, but like it ruins the game. It's not the point.[00:24:25] Katherine: I think for some people. Yeah, I think the the ethical dimension is is extremely significant for a lot of people. But but for some, it's like, you know, they're not doing it to produce work for its own sake. Right. To go back to the example I gave about the writer who I suspect is using AI to create these news digests, like that person has committed to producing these digests, you know, X number of times a month as part of their livelihood. And so you can sort of see like, well, them using AI is a little bit more sympathetic. But if it's something you're doing for free, for fun, as an expression of love, I can I can see where people are like, well, you're farming it out. But I also am very sympathetic to the other side of that, where it's like maybe, you know, your writing skills aren't as strong and it does open doors and they are your ideas. And it's helping you speak more clearly in a situation where you couldn't otherwise.[00:25:32] Henry: Is it because the way people do this online together, it's a form of communicating, like it's all very oblique and indirect, but it's really just a form of people socializing and they feel like if the AI is there, then they're not getting what they need from it in that sense.[00:25:49] Katherine: Um, it is a form of communication. But I also think there is really a value placed on the like the personal dimension of it. Like, um, like bad fan art, right? Like if you know someone, someone's really trying their best, they really are committed to a fandom. They really love it. But their drawing isn't great and they share it. Of course, there will be people who are mean and who shame them. And there's all sorts of weird, like, you know, labyrinthine dramas that occur in these spaces. But there will also be people who are like, this is beautiful because you tried, because it was coming from a real place of love. And that that that devotion is a very important piece of the puzzle. Again, there there are gatekeepers, there is shaming that occurs. And you know, there's a lot of people who feel like they're not good enough. Like you constantly see this in forums on Reddit, on Wattpad, on AO3, like on all these spaces, people who are like self deprecating, they feel like their work isn't good enough. But there's again, like this, this sense of like, I did it because I love the property. I love the character. Which I guess sort of ties back to the thing about ficto romance, where it's just this extreme expression of, you know, a pulse that's already moving through the space.[00:27:12] Henry: The piece I read on Substack, it wasn't written by the person writing the book. It was written by her roommate. And she was saying, you know, to begin with, like, oh my God, I thought this was dreadful. But actually, the more I saw what was going on, she was like, I can see my roommate has written like 20,000 words in a week. And she's working really hard at it. And she's, you know, prompting and reprompting. And she knows what she likes. She really knows what she's doing and what she wants and how to get it to change its output. And she kind of, she didn't come around to saying, oh, this is a good thing. But I think she mellowed on the idea. And she could see that there was a certain amount of, there's something new happening, right? Some new kind of fiction is coming out of it.[00:27:55] Katherine: I totally agree too, that like, prompting and reprompting is in itself a creative expression. And this is something I tried to argue about AI art, where there is like, you know, not everyone is going to be able to produce the same thing. Like the writing the prompt is in it of itself a skill. And also there's your own taste, which informs the prompt and informs what you include. Like, I'm very proud of the images that I've produced with Mid Journey. Not, you know, not the same way I would be if I had, you know, painted it myself. But like, I do feel like it's informed by my unique experience and taste. And this particular combination of things is unique to me. And that's a type of art, even if it's involves different things than, you know, again, if I were myself painting it. And I think that applies to fan fiction as well. What I have been worried about, I mean, this is a tangent, is like, what happens to the generation that is like, all they know is prompting and AI, and they don't have that space to develop their own taste and their own perception. Like, I think that like, if you start out too fresh, if you started too green, and you haven't had time to develop taste, and that's where I see these platforms being a little bit more dangerous.[00:29:23] Henry: But couldn't we say that about you in the role-playing forums? Like, when they develop taste through like, deep immersive experiences with the AI?[00:29:36] Katherine: Well, no, because with the role-playing, it has to come from myself and from other people, right? And there's nothing like limiting it, right? Like, it's purely through my eyes. Like, maybe there's an issue here where like, the actual writing product would have been better if I was, you know, if I read more, right? Or if I watched different films, but it's only filtered through myself and through other people. Whereas, you don't know how you're gonna get walled in with the AI, especially if you go in too fresh, and you don't know how to prompt it.[00:30:17] Henry: Weren't those people more likely to be, aren't they more likely to get bored?[00:30:24] Katherine: I don't know. I don't know if they're more likely to get bored. I think they might get stuck. I mean, the flip side is maybe they'll innovate more because they're coming from a completely different perspective.[00:30:37] Henry: Right, that's true. I had this interesting experience recently where I saw a whole load of young people that I'm related to. They range from like eight to 16 or something. And some of them just could, they could not not be holding their phone. And some of them, they're like, they don't like the phone. They're reading Jane Austen. So there's a diversity in that sense. But they were all just against AI. Like it's a bad thing. People use it to cheat, all the usual stuff. And I was fascinated. I was like, guys, you should all be using AI. Let me tell you what the good models are. So I wonder if we'll see this bigger diversity within that generation where some of them, a bit like in our generation, right? Some people were online a lot. Some people weren't. And some people are still.[00:31:24] Katherine: I've noticed that there's a very strong anti-tech sentiment among younger generation. And it seems like bifurcated. In the same way you described, people who are so online that they're just like these internet creatures, right? Like if the internet is a forest, like they're like natives of it. And then the other side of it is people who feel like it stole a lot from them. It took a lot from their childhoods. And they're moving away from it. And as a statement, they're either getting like dumb phones or they don't have social media. Or if they do have social media, it's like very sparse. And they tend to have like two very different outlooks. The ones who are more online seem to be more chaotic, a little more nihilistic. And the ones who are more offline, like they seem to be like looking for something more. Like they're more obviously searching for meaning.[00:32:24] Henry: Are we gonna see more like book reading among the offline people?[00:32:30] Katherine: I mean, I would hope so. Who knows, right? Like who knows how much of it is a performance and how much of it is really happening. But I mean, I would imagine so. It does seem also that like a lot of digital outlets feel like something is changing. And I've noticed a lot more like physical media seems to be coming back. I'm interested in seeing how this develops in fan spaces. Early in fandom, like in the... And I guess like early is like right when it was like really starting to grow. So not at the origins, but it's sort of this like... Fandom exponentially grew in the late 70s. And the way people communicated with each other and like a very important mode of expression was a physical fanzine. And this was because first there was no internet and then the internet was confined to certain populations and not everyone had it. And I wonder if fanzines will come back or like handwritten letters. Even I have a couple of books that are collections of letters that these sisters wrote to a particular fandom. And it was just like, it was just a huge part of that particular world. And I thought that was really interesting as a way to keep in touch with people and to keep the community together.[00:34:01] Henry: Yeah, that sounds like a fascinating book.[00:34:05] Katherine: Yeah, it's a collection of... It's called like elf magic letters or something. It's really interesting. And it's also interesting because it's like not something that you can easily read because it's so specific to the time and the place. Like it really was for the people it was for, right? It's not, it doesn't stand the test of time in the same way.[00:34:28] Henry: So is there not much sense of tradition in fandom? Like are people going back to read the fanzines and stuff?[00:34:37] Katherine: There is a sense of tradition for sure. Some of these fanzines are hard to find. It depends on which fandom you're in. Fans love whatever property it is they're fans of. So there's always archivists and people who are curating these things and making these things available. I just wonder if it'll become more popular to return to physical media. And it probably is in certain spaces. I'm just not personally aware of them. Okay.[00:35:09] Henry: Do you think, like, how do you think fan fiction is going to change significantly with AI? Beyond questions of like register and stuff that you were talking about before. Are we going to see, is this going to be like a significant step change in the evolution of the form? Or is it just going to be what people are saying? Like lots of slots in the form of slot content, nothing new as it were.[00:35:33] Katherine: I'm not sure. There's a lot of fan art that's generated with AI that I feel like at first people were really skeptical of. And now they really like it. And it's sort of proven itself. I mean, there's still people who are fiercely against it. But with writing, it's a little bit trickier. And again, the reactions are like very mixed, mostly negative. Again, where I think you will see the most change is with role-playing. You know, AI is always on. You can say whatever you like without feeling embarrassed. Something that I've noticed in reading transcripts of people who, like, on some of these sites where people role-play with bots, you could publish the role-play. You could publish the transcript. And there's just completely disinhibited. Like, they're just really just saying whatever, right? Not in a way that they're trolling or trying to break the bot. But it's like, you know, there's a certain etiquette when you role-play. And they're really just going for it. And I'll just be honest. This is particularly obvious with sexual role-plays, right? They'll just get straight to it. If the person is there to role-play sex, they'll just jump straight to the point. And you don't have to worry about that. You don't have to worry about being embarrassed. If it doesn't work out or, you know, you don't get the response you want, you start it over, you reprompt it, or you go to another bot. So I think it might take away from that social aspect. Not everybody likes role-playing with bots, but I think a lot of people do.[00:37:21] Henry: To me, this is like prime material for people to write novels about. But I don't see, I don't yet see a lot of people taking that up. Do you think, like, how likely is it, do you think, that some people from within this space will end up, in whatever way this looks like in the future, writing and publishing something like, you know, a straightforward literary, whatever the word is, novel, about this subculture and about these ways of existing? Do you think some people will, like, prompt themselves into being novelists, as it were?[00:38:00] Katherine: I mean, I definitely think that people will write about AI companions and chat bots. I think we're already seeing that to some degree. I think, you know, it seems that everyone is fascinated by emotional attachment to chat bots. And there's, like, just explosions of big pieces about this, because it's so new. And what's surprising to me is, like, there's very little judgment. You know, there's very few people who are like, this is dystopian, right? You see some of that, but most of it is like, well, it is real love, you know? That's been very surprising to me. Something that I could foresee is, and I think would be very ethically tricky and might cause some controversies, people trying to publish their role-playing transcripts. Which, you know, some fan fiction is, like, downstream of role-playing transcripts, and it'll be, like, a collaborative work, right? But it would be, like, very controversial if, you know, like, you and I had a Pride and Prejudice roleplay. And, you know, so we were sending emails back and forth or something, and then I collated all of that and published it as my own story, like, you know, with some edits or whatever. Like, that would be stealing your work. What I could see happening is someone having, like, a really good roleplay and wanting to save the transcript and then, you know, cleaning it up, maybe running it through AI, and the prompt is, you know, turn this into a story and, like, remove redundancies or, you know, whatever. And then it'd be, like, is that their work, right? Like, how much of that belongs to them?[00:39:38] Henry: But I can see something happening where it's, like, you know, in the 19th century, things that were supposed to be cheap and lowbrow, like crime stories and things like that, became a whole new genre of literature, right? And by the end of the 19th century, you've got detective fiction, science fiction, fantasy fiction. They're all flourishing. They've all had decades of really interesting work, and it becomes, like, maybe even the dominant form of fiction in the 20th century. Do you think there's scope for, like, you know, a weird novelist like Muriel Spark, a new one of her to come along and, like, turn this, whatever this is happening with these role plays and everything, turn that into some kind of new kind of fiction, whether it's created with the AI or not with the AI, like, you'll get both, right? Is this, like, everyone thinks the literary novel is exhausted, is this the way out? I don't know.[00:40:37] Katherine: I think that they, like, maybe, maybe, like, a new type of, like, pulp novel or something, you know, something that's, like, considered, like, something that's considered lowbrow, right, and maybe isn't always treated that way. But I'm curious, like, how, like, I'm imagining, you know, people printing, like, paper books or creating EPUBs, but do you mean, like, an interactive form of a novel, maybe, or, like, are you talking about people, like, I mean, what are you imagining, I guess, is my question? I think, so I think it could be, I think in terms of format, it could be all of those.[00:41:25] Henry: What I really want to see is how this interacts with audiobooks, because I think audiobooks have become, like, quietly very dominant in the reading habits of people who are typically reading, like, highbrow nonfiction, literary fiction, whatever. And I can sort of imagine a scenario where, I don't know how long this takes, but, like, a new kind of pulp fiction has been created, it's drawing on fandom, roleplay, AI, so we've got this new kind of sub-genre, and then that gets morphed, a bit like genre fiction in the 19th century, into something much more, quote-unquote, literary, and that could be, like, a boring, typical old book, or it could be some kind of audio thing where, like, you're interacting with it, and you're picking the route and whatever, or you could interact with it through your LLM. You see what I mean?There's all these different ways, right?[00:42:26] Katherine: So I think this stuff already exists. Oh, okay. Oh, so that, I think that maybe what I was confusing was, you know, like, imagining, like, a new style, or, you know?[00:42:37] Katherine: But all of these, so all of these things, so I don't know if they're books, I mean, that's actually a good question, like, is it a form of literature? Like, are these bots that people are roleplaying with, is that literature, right? Because there's set parameters, and when you create these characters, you can, you have a lot of control over designing them, what their world is, what the person talking to them will receive back, right? And there's audio versions of that. So it is, like, stepping into a pre-created world where there's, like, some kind of collaboration. And then on the other hand, there's been lots of novels that started off as fan fiction, and this is actually pretty common, a lot of these, you know, like, teen romances or whatever that get popular on TikTok, a lot of those come from people who had been writing fan fiction smut, right? And turned it into original work. And you can see the traces of whatever fandom they were operating in, in the work, whether it's, like, an allusion to a pre-existing character in another property, or it's just the style of writing, or, like, the way they express romantic intimacy. So both things exist in different forms. I wish I had asked a clarified question earlier, because I feel like we were talking in circles a little bit, so I wasn't quite sure what you were envisioning. But yeah, there's a lot of, I wondered also, like, how will reading change as these bots become more sophisticated? Right now, it's a lot of, like, it's a lot of, like, just, you know, like, teenagers messing around in their fandoms, or people doing erotic role-playing, right? But what is the literary version of that? And that's a very exciting question, and, like, interesting realm of inquiry.[00:44:38] Henry: It's a good, it's currently a very good, like, footnotes-on-demand service, right?[00:44:44] Katherine: Yeah.[00:44:45] Henry: Yeah, like, what the hell is this kind of carriage that they're talking about, or whatever? Do you think it'll, you think it's going to develop beyond that kind of thing?[00:44:53] Katherine: Um, yeah, I do. I mean, something really interesting, I don't know if you've heard about this, it's not literature, but the website Every, so they have, like, several different tech newsletters, and they have a service where they'll take all the research for a given article, and you can talk to an LLM about the stuff they didn't include in the piece. But, so, here's even another idea, like, let's say, you know, you take, like, Harry Potter or something, and then there's, like, a Harry Potter LLM, and you can ask questions about the book, or, like, you know, what's in the store that didn't, you know, that we didn't open, right? Metaphorically, you know, what's behind the scenes and all this stuff we don't see in the actual text? And ordinarily, that's where fandom steps in, and fans will fill in that white space for themselves with their headcanon, so the decisions they make about the whatever narrative universe they're choosing to step into. But maybe in AI, you know, the author can say, all right, these are all my notes, and this is all the, this is the whole world that I couldn't fit into the actual story.[00:46:07] Henry: How is AI changing the way you write?[00:46:12] Katherine: All right, so I correct my grammar a lot. My grammar is, like, atrocious, or at least it is in my own opinion. Maybe it's actually not, but so I'll check for grammatical errors, and then I use it all the time as, like, a search engine. So I love, like, the deep research function on chat GPT. It's, like, I never use Google anymore. So if I have, like, questions about something, or if I'm not sure that an argument makes sense, either I'll, like, run it by, you're like, all right, I'm arguing, you know, like, this, this, and this. Like, does this make sense in my own head, or does this actually make sense? So that's a common DF question to chat GPT.[00:47:05] Henry: But, like, are you thinking about, you know, are you going to be a different sort of writer? Are you going to write more or less of certain things? Are you thinking about how people will be reading less? You know, you're competing with the AIs, you've got to write for the AIs. Is it affecting you like that, or do you feel like what you do is reasonably immune?[00:47:26] Katherine: Um, no, you know, I don't feel like I'm competing with AI. I feel like I'm competing with other people, but I'm not competing with AI. And I'm not, I'm not writing for it. I, you know, I remember that, that Tyler Cowen quote, and I wasn't totally sure what he meant by that. I mean, like, I don't know. I'm definitely not writing, writing for it. I mean, does he mean, like, as the AI, like, learns about each person and learns that, you know, each, each writer is contributing to the conversation, you want to make sure it's easily parsable. So you could, you could be included in history or something as AI starts to write our history. Actually, I guess that's a good point, if that doesn't end up happening. But no, I don't, I don't consider either of those things.[00:48:17] Henry: Um, you wrote about, you wrote a short response to the Machine in the Garden essay that was famous on Substack a few months ago. You said, if you don't have copycats, then you're doing something wrong. Just make sure people don't forget you're the original article. How, how do you do that? How do you, how does that affect the way you organize your writing?[00:48:43] Katherine: Oh, man, I publish a lot. If I feel like something is my unique idea, I repeat it over and over and over again. Yeah, I mean, that's, I guess it also, I mean, a question I don't have the answer to is like, you know, people worry about being plagiarized from or copycats, but what happens, you know, what happens with AI, right? Like, how does AI change that equation? I don't know. But, you know, you just hope for the best, you know, that humanity, you know, just the fact of being human is enough.[00:49:26] Henry: Do you think that the internet and social media are making things worse in the culture generally, the way that people like Ted Gioia argue, or are you more optimistic?[00:49:39] Katherine: Um, I'm slightly more optimistic. I think Ted Gioia is as much too dismissive of technology to the extent that I feel like I've, I've almost like taken a contrarian position, you know, and I, I've been a little bit I've been a little bit more techno-optimist than I would have been normally, because I just like, can't all be bad, right? There's a lot of really good things about the internet and about social media. I think that we really undervalue the friendships people make. And then people will say, well, like, well, look at, you know, how so-and-so got screwed over, you know, whatever famous drama. It's like, those people will f**k you over in real life, you know, in the physical world, right? That's a human problem. That's not a technology problem. I think we also, I, particularly people like Ted Gioia and John Height and Freya India, I mean, and I like all these people. I'm not, you know, but I think they also are, like, I don't know where Ted Gioia lives, but John Height's in New York and Freya is in London, as far as I know. When they talk about going like phone-free or like using the internet less or screen-based childhoods, you know, I, like, I agree. Like, look, like, I don't want my son attached to a phone or something. But I also live in Chicago. There's like a ton of stuff going on. And every single day, no matter what the weather is, he can go, one, see other children and two, go do something really fun. And so can I, right? And that's because I live in Chicago. But if I lived in a small town in Texas, like I did, you know, 10 years ago, like I need the, I, like the internet was my lifeline. Then it's how I made friends. It's how I entertain myself. And it sucks that it was like that. But like, not everyone has the privilege of a rich culture in their immediate environment. You don't have, you know, like, it doesn't mean you have to be online 24 seven, but for social media is like very important for people in those situations. And it's, I think there's this weird binary in the discourse where it's like, you're either online all the time, you know, rotting your brain with just like, you know, nonstop live leak videos, right? Or you have no phone at all, right? But I think there's even like high volume usage that isn't, you know, what I just described, that it's beneficial for certain people in certain situations.[00:52:12] Henry: What is it that you like about Mirabi's poetry? You mentioned this earlier, but I wanted to ask you specifically.[00:52:18] Katherine: Yeah, so I discovered her in my senior year of college. And I didn't know what ecstatic love was. Like I had never, I was completely unfamiliar with that concept. So even on the conceptual level, I was like, so struck by this ability to feel love for a deity, feel love for something non-physical.[00:52:54] Henry: Do you admire other poets in that tradition like Rumi?[00:52:59] Katherine: I'm not as familiar with other poets in that tradition.[00:53:02] Henry: Okay. After fan fiction and AI, what will you do next?[00:53:08] Katherine: I'm working on a whole bunch of stuff. Another piece I'm working on is about techno-animism. So this idea of like, I don't believe that technology is literally insoled, but I think that it's maybe not a bad thing to treat it as if it was. And if we're going to be in such like a technologically rich environment, like maybe if we did see a little bit of life in it, it would be better for us psychologically, which is like kind of a hard thing to argue because I think it turns people off like immediately. And I think there's like a lot of fear around it, but it's a very sad and sterile world, right? If we think that we're around all this lifelessness. And I think that's why I'm so attracted to writing about ficto-sexuals and ficto-romance because I love this idea of being able to see life in something where other people don't see it.[00:54:15] Henry: Katherine Dee, thank you very much.[00:54:18] Katherine: Thank you for having me. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.commonreader.co.uk/subscribe

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The Antiques Freaks are joined by illustrator Dan Warren to talk about collecting vintage and antique editions of the Oz books by L. Frank Baum, including the incredible attention to design detail evident from the very first edition of The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, which film adaptation adheres closest to the original text, the weirdest characters you've never heard of, and hot tips for those seeking antique books in the wild. (Homestuck - the Oz of the modern age? Discuss.) Shout out to O F Cieri for bringing us to the Frankenstein exhibit. You can watch Dan create gorgeous fantasy illustrations in real time on his YouTube channel @danwarren and check out his fantasy-comedy graphic novel at SteveLichman.com

John takes another shot at fixing everything. Terezi makes a plan. Sam spends most of this episode trying to remember the name of a book from his childhood. This episode covers pages 7099 - 7187 of Andrew Hussie's Homestuck, which is best read on the Unofficial Homestuck Web Archive. Get in touch! Follow Serious Business on twitter: https://twitter.com/SeriousBusPod Leave us a message at our tumblr: https://seriousbusinesspod.tumblr.com

Lords: * Esper * https://ourbroadcastday.com/ * RT-55J * https://rt-55j.itch.io/ Topics: * Memes where the specific instance of joke customization is frontloaded, while the punchline remains the same every time. * Making ZZT games in 2024 * https://stale-meme.itch.io/the-king-in-yellow-borders * It's 2024 and still nobody has ported Mario 64 to the Commodore 64 * https://abbydenton.itch.io/the-blade-of-cutiepants-a-very-cutie-christmas * What I Would Tell Eve by Maegen McAuliffe O'Leary * https://www.reddit.com/r/Poetry/comments/1ez31sh/poemwhatiwouldtellevebymaegenmcauliffe/ * "A vampire with a cheque-book, a solicitor, and a balance at the bank is not a plausible kind of creature." - Andrew Lang (contemporary reviewer of Dracula) * Do you think there were any Fortnite die-hards who got really upset when Fortnite started introducing Marvel and Star Wars guys to the game? Microtopics: * A Muppet Christmas Carol. * Gradations of Michael Caine oldness. * The Museum of ZZT. * Wizened ZZT Wizards. * Taking a common idea and altering it in an interesting way. * Why do plays still exist? * Making up an audience to applaud you. * Rehearsing a conversation in a low-oxygen environment. * A guy walking around touching things in the world and flavor text appears. * The ZZT aspect ratio problem. * Sneaking into the office at night and playing ZZT in silent mode so you don't bother the janitor. * 8-way movement in ZZT. * Reasons to stick with a certain set of constraints. * WeaveZZT. * Making a deck builder RPG in ZZT. * The safety and romance of a good set of constraints. * The King in Yellow Borders. * Oktrollberfest. * A found object horror game built in a fake ZZT engine. * Wario doing a ground pound and breaking the Youtube interface around the video. * Reading like 200 pages of Problem Sleuth and never getting around to Homestuck. * A program you can install to make your computer look like it's still running Windows Vista, and another you can install to make it feel like Obama is still president. * Porting ZZT to the Commodore 64. * An economy of people enjoying themselves. * Porting Mario 64 to ZZT and ending up on the front page of Planet Quake. * Tux Racer. * Scoping your game just big enough for people to see screen shots and get excited, but small enough that it's still finishable. * Mario 64's British Platformer Energy. * Whether Argonaut or Rare was a bigger influence on the design of Mario 64. * 3D Construction Kit for the Commodore 64. * Trying to build a scene in PovRay. * What iPad kids were like in the mid-90s. * Whether or not Eve ate the best possible apple. * Plausible and implausible vampires. * Ahistorical vampire analysis. * Why there's chicken on the Streets of Rage * What the Antediluveans got up to. * The 14 million year war for Cybertron. * What did you eat for 14 million years? * Subsisting on pure unfiltered Sparklemotion. * Two robots punching each other in the face for millennia. * Nike sponsorships in Magic the Gathering. * A roadmap of Magic the Gathering Crossovers. * The Guitar Hero game where you could make Kurt Cobain perform Run DMC. * Rated E for Explicit. * A PubG with fort building mechanics. * Winning your first game of Fortnite and retiring forever. * The Super Smash Instinct. * Monetizing a child's insatiable gambling instincts. * Playing a video game and worrying about the developer's immortal soul.

Everything is gone. Everyone is Dead. In the ruins, John, Roxy, and Terezi gather to try to find a solution. Terezi gets some new footwear. Alt!Calliope is glimpsed. John finally does the windy thing and frees the fireflies. This episode covers pages 6944 - 7098 of Andrew Hussie's Homestuck, which is best read on the Unofficial Homestuck Web Archive. Also discussed are the Paradox Space comics, which can be read here! To anyone who has read this far, I would like to apologize for a mistake in this episode. Yiffany Longstocking Lalonde Harley is actually ROSE and Jade's daughter, not Kanaya and Jade's daughter. I would correct this in a future episode, but it's Homestuck^2 content, and frankly, I don't care about it enough to do that. Get in touch! Follow Serious Business on twitter: https://twitter.com/SeriousBusPod Leave us a message at our tumblr: https://seriousbusinesspod.tumblr.com

Due to this week being wild as hell, not only is this episode late, it's also not the one I initially intended to make! Still, it ended up being fun! Some of these ships I couldn't believe weren't in the top 150 on AO3, and others surprised me by how much I ended up thinking about them. Agree? Disagree? Let me know in the comments (if you're on Youtube or Spotify) or join the conversation on Discord or Bluesky (linked below)!My final tier listThis episode's video Music by DomiDomi's SoundcloudDomi's Ko-FiWebsiteBlueskyKo-fiDiscordYoutubeTiktokTwitchThe Unofficial Homestuck CollectionE117 ★ Support this podcast ★

Another tier list! I may have had a little too much fun with this one. I could honestly spend ages filling out spreadsheets and making these ship icons. What are you favorite ships? Any that didn't make it in? Let me know in the Discord or on Bluesky, both linked below!Blank Tier MakerMy final tier listMy dirkkat fic, Bondless Prince, Bloodless KnightThis episode's video Music by DomiDomi's SoundcloudDomi's Ko-FiWebsiteBlueskyKo-fiDiscordYoutubeTiktokTwitchThe Unofficial Homestuck CollectionE116 ★ Support this podcast ★

Caliborn has been cancelled. He returns to the basics of the craft and plans to rise like a phoenix from the asses of his haters. Sam, Bastian, and Ari offer critical support to the cancelled artist, and discuss the prescience of this section, as a petri dish that showed how things would fester and become the rotting disease of today. Also Ari pitches a sitcom about the Skeleton Count and the Vampire Mistress This episode covers pages 6853 - 6920 of Andrew Hussie's Homestuck, which is best read on the Unofficial Homestuck Web Archive. Get in touch! Follow Serious Business on twitter: https://twitter.com/SeriousBusPod Leave us a message at our tumblr: https://seriousbusinesspod.tumblr.com

Moosestuck is currently on a break, so in the meantime, Jax rates every Homestuck character!I said I'd have the final list as the episode artwork, but I realized that would be big spoilers! So here's the link to my ranking.Also here's the classic Eridan song by Phemiec, Ugly StoryDon't forget to fill out the social media survey so I know where to focus my attention!This episode's video Music by DomiDomi's SoundcloudDomi's Ko-FiWebsiteBlueskyKo-fiDiscordYoutubeTiktokTwitchThe Unofficial Homestuck CollectionE115  ★ Support this podcast ★

The gang returns to Homestuck, with new guest Andromeda (@ronnie_nova.png), to discuss Act Six Act Six Act Three (God's Gift to the Yaois) and Act Six Act Six Intermission Three (GAME OVER) of Homestuck. Gamergate and Snoop Dogg are discussed, and too many Osama bin Laden jokes are made. This episode covers pages 6853 - 6920 of Andrew Hussie's Homestuck, which is best read on the Unofficial Homestuck Web Archive. Go check out Andromeda on tiktok and instagram! Links from this episode: The Snoopdog post: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151353197369807 Caliborn's Self Insert Original Art: https://www.deviantart.com/nakkistiltz/art/MSPA-AU-English-190066369 Caliborn's Deviantart: https://www.deviantart.com/i-am-your-lord Get in touch! Follow Serious Business on twitter: https://twitter.com/SeriousBusPod Leave us a message at our tumblr: https://seriousbusinesspod.tumblr.com

Moosie and I finally review Hiveswap Act 1! Links:Gio's blogStargate Alternia the FicStargate Alternia Ep 1Stargate Alternia Ep 2Jacksepticeye's playthroughJackie on itchFake Gamer BroMoosie on itchMoosie's personal websiteMusic by DomiDomi's SoundcloudDomi's Ko-FiWebsiteKo-fiDiscordYoutubeTiktokTwitchThe Unofficial Homestuck CollectionE114 ★ Support this podcast ★

In our final Gigapause episode, we discuss Kieron Gillen and Stephanie Hans's Die. We've been talking about this comic for a while in the context of Homestuck, so it was only a matter of time before we talked about it. Die is available to read wherever fine comics are sold. Please check it out. You can probably get the game at your local comic shop as well, if your comic shop is cool like mine. This episode's been in the pipe for too long so I can't be bothered to find our social media links to paste here, I just wanna get it out, y'know?

We have now reached the gigapause! Some of you may already be aware of the streams we've been doing for Hiveswap Friendsim. We still have a few left before we take a break from those, but they're all available as VODs on Twitch and eventually on Youtube as well. If you're interested in a deep dive into the whole "what happened with the Kickstarter" topic we've mentioned a few times here and elsewhere, checkout Gio's blog, which has a few great posts on the subject.Moosie on itchMoosie's personal websiteMusic and editing by DomiDomi's SoundcloudDomi's Ko-FiWebsiteNewsletterKo-fiDiscordTwitterYoutubeTiktokThe Unofficial Homestuck CollectionE113 ★ Support this podcast ★

There is not a single thing that this show does correctly. Coming from the same studio that brought us Fallout, The Boys, Invincible, and a few other great shows? I am beyond disappointed. I'm LIVID! Here's my rant about it.

What character do you surprisingly have a good voice for or thoughts about?(Transistor.fm I am making polite grabby hands)The song with the titular Gamzee rap (part of a series that has all the other songs for the Candy Epilogue musical)SFW Tavros/Equius/Gamzee ficNSFW Gamzee/Aradia/Sollux fic - for real, this is just pornFake Gamer Bro, my back from hiatus mobile game podcast!WebsiteNewsletterKo-fiDiscordTwitterYoutubeTiktokThe Unofficial Homestuck Collection ★ Support this podcast ★

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Aleks shares his experience with a game that's unironically changed his life. Is this the end of CHUD Aleks? Will I get in trouble if I say trigger? Do I have the pass or only him? Let's find out.Recorded 9/9/2024Imgur Album: https://imgur.com/a/QzPBbNdTalking Points: Straight characters wiki,inco g. nito,phoenix wright,professor layton,utawarerumono,other people exist,Shuffle,i wanna shuffle that gator,tomodachi life spaghetti,the worst version of yourself,the artist struggle,Its not like I did anything, I just followed a Youtube tutorial,I dont want to be this kind of animal anymore,delayed gratification,DSL camera:eyes::sweat_drops:,yes dear,baryonyx,gassed up,glazed even,relationship advice from two 30 year old podcasters,skinnies,triggers,ArkKnights,Homestuck,MSPA Notifier,/hsg/ I miss you,Intervention,you beat fortnite,I've read enough and the NEW Aleks Check out the website for links to our shows on iTunes, GooglePlay and Spotify► http://www.lmtya.com► https://spoti.fi/2Q55yfLPeep us on Twitter► @LetMeTellYouPDOfficial Discord► https://discord.gg/SqyXJ9R/////// SHILL CORNER ///////► https://www.patreon.com/LMTYALMTYA shirts!► https://lmtya.myspreadshop.com/all/////// SHILL CORNER ///////

Jax and Kansas talk about Wolf 359, a great scifi fiction podcast!Wolf 359Music by DomiDomi's SoundcloudDomi's Ko-FiWebsiteNewsletterKo-fiDiscordTwitterYoutubeTiktokThe Unofficial Homestuck Collection ★ Support this podcast ★

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Join me, Justin, and Domi for the finale of our rating ship names series with the perfect final ship!The Youtube videoList of Homestuck ship namesTensei's BskyBard Rock Cafe Music by DomiDomi's SoundcloudDomi's Ko-FiWebsiteNewsletterKo-fiDiscordTwitterYoutubeTiktokThe Unofficial Homestuck CollectionFanstuck/Problematic Faves Submission FormE109 ★ Support this podcast ★

Part two of Act 6 Acts 4-5 and it's time for TRICKSTER MODEThe Gay and Wondrous Life of Caleb Gallo Moosie on itchMoosie's personal websiteMusic and edited by DomiDomi's SoundcloudDomi's Ko-FiWebsiteNewsletterKo-fiDiscordTwitterYoutubeTiktokThe Unofficial Homestuck CollectionFanstuck/Problematic Faves Submission FormE108 ★ Support this podcast ★

You asked for it, and the wait is over: Ranged Touch's Michael Lutz is here to tell us about HOMESTUCK! Using JACK: ASCEND and CASCADE as our anchor-points, we talk about rabid fandom, assembling an art team, and accidentally creating a clown cult. Plus, your emails! Video links in the show notes. Support us on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/flashinthepan

Here's the live show we did 6/12! We had a lot of fun and definitely look forward to doing something like this again in the future!The full video version is available on youtube.Moosie on itchMoosie's personal websiteDomi's SoundcloudDomi's Ko-FiTensei's BskyBard Rock Cafe Music by Domi. WebsiteNewsletterKo-fiDiscordTwitterYoutubeTiktokThe Unofficial Homestuck CollectionFanstuck/Problematic Faves Submission FormE108 ★ Support this podcast ★

Aleks and Tad discuss Disco Elysium! The hit game that was all the rage in checks watch half a decade ago! You may be surprised by their different stances on the game, its been a long time since the two hosts have been so divided on a topic!Recorded 7/11/2024 at friggin 3amImgur Album: https://imgur.com/a/gtRiVzETalking Points: Whale man (ex-lover),500 cigarettes,league of legends,Bright,big complicated mess,playing a character,dougie get two runs,glaze Elysium,backseat gamer,FF14 a realm rewritten,pale repeater station,joyce and the pale,fextralife.discoelysium,baysplosion,calypso lemonade,depth,fear and hunger,Zanzibarts,Shadow of the Midtree,I am the magpie,a gym teacher,D to F cauldron species,you have to move forward,babbaguchi babbaguchi,the element of crime,Haxan Blu-Ray and it all comes back to Homestuck. Check out the website for links to our shows on iTunes, GooglePlay and Spotify► http://www.lmtya.com► https://spoti.fi/2Q55yfLPeep us on Twitter► @LetMeTellYouPDOfficial Discord► https://discord.gg/SqyXJ9R/////// SHILL CORNER ///////► https://www.patreon.com/LMTYALMTYA shirts!► https://lmtya.myspreadshop.com/all/////// SHILL CORNER ///////

Montages of boredom and a terrible birthday. Our first 2 parter because we talked so dang much!Moosie on itchMoosie's personal websiteMusic and edited by DomiDomi's SoundcloudDomi's Ko-FiWebsiteNewsletterKo-fiDiscordTwitterYoutubeTiktokThe Unofficial Homestuck CollectionFanstuck/Problematic Faves Submission FormE107 ★ Support this podcast ★

 Live Laugh Stuck is a Homestuck variety podcasts featuring queer analysis, interviews with fan creators, a readthrough with a cohost coming in blind, and more! Find it wherever you get your podcasts.WebsiteNewsletterKo-fiDiscordEmailTwitterYoutubeTiktok ★ Support this podcast ★

Can you really call it a short episode when it's over an hour long?The Youtube videoList of Homestuck ship namesQ&A Submission FormTwitchTensei's Links:Tensei's BskyBard Rock CafeMusic by DomiEdited by JaxDomi's SoundcloudDomi's Ko-FiWebsiteNewsletterKo-fiDiscordEmailTwitterYoutubeTumblrTiktokThe Unofficial Homestuck CollectionFanstuck/Problematic Faves Submission FormE106 ★ Support this podcast ★

Welcome to The Nonlinear Library, where we use Text-to-Speech software to convert the best writing from the Rationalist and EA communities into audio. This is: Web-surfing tips for strange times, published by eukaryote on June 1, 2024 on LessWrong. [This post is more opinion-heavy and aimlessly self-promoting than feels appropriate for Lesswrong. I wrote it for my site, Eukaryote Writes Blog, to show off that I now have a substack. But it had all these other observations about the state of the internet and advice woven in, and THOSE seemed more at home on Lesswrong, and I'm a busy woman with a lot of pictures of fish to review, so I'm just going to copy it over as posted without laboriously extricating the self-advertisement. Sorry if it's weird that it's there!] Eukaryote Writes Blog is now syndicating to Substack. I have no plans for paygating content at the time, and new and old posts will continue to be available at EukaryoteWritesBlog.com. Call this an experiment and a reaching-out. If you're reading this on Substack, hi! Thanks for joining me. I really don't like paygating. I feel like if I write something, hypothetically it is of benefit to someone somewhere out there, and why should I deny them the joys of reading it? But like, I get it. You gotta eat and pay rent. I think I have a really starry-eyed view of what the internet sometimes is and what it still truly could be of a collaborative free information utopia. But here's the thing, a lot of people use Substack and I also like the thing where it really facilitates supporting writers with money. I have a lot of beef with aspects of the corporate world, some of it probably not particularly justified but some of it extremely justified, and mostly it comes down to who gets money for what. I really like an environment where people are volunteering to pay writers for things they like reading. Maybe Substack is the route to that free information web utopia. Also, I have to eat, and pay rent. So I figure I'll give this a go. Still, this decision made me realize I have some complicated feelings about the modern internet. Hey, the internet is getting weird these days Generative AI Okay, so there's generative AI, first of all. It's lousy on Facebook and as text in websites and in image search results. It's the next iteration of algorithmic horror and it's only going to get weirder from here on out. I was doing pretty well on not seeing generic AI-generated images in regular search results for a while, but now they're cropping up, and sneaking (unmarked) onto extremely AI-averse platforms like Tumblr. It used to be that you could look up pictures of aspic that you could throw into GIMP with the aspect logos from Homestuck and you would call it "claspic", which is actually a really good and not bad pun and all of your friends would go "why did you make this image". And in this image search process you realize you also haven't looked at a lot of pictures of aspic and it's kind of visually different than jello, but now you see some of these are from Craiyon and are generated and you're not sure which ones you've already looked past that are not truly photos of aspic and you're not sure what's real and you're put off of your dumb pun by an increasingly demon-haunted world, not to mention aspic. (Actually, I've never tried aspic before. Maybe I'll see if I can get one of my friends to make a vegan aspic for my birthday party. I think it could be upsetting and also tasty and informative and that's what I'm about, personally. Have you tried aspic? Tell me what you thought of it.) Search engines Speaking of search engines, search engines are worse. Results are worse. The podcast Search Engine (which also covers other topics) has a nice episode saying that this is because of the growing hoardes of SEO-gaming low-quality websites and discussing the history of these things, as well as discussing Google's new LLM-generated results. I don't have much to add - I think there is a lot here,...

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From Heartstopper, to Homestuck, to Percy Jackson, to Glee, to Bottoms, to gay Asian zines, this is THE episode to tune into if you're craving a big fat gossip about queer art and culture. Join the cohosts as they talk about which queer media shaped their lives most, and how consuming this art influenced their perceptions of and expectations for relationships growing up. Let us know - what has shaped you?

We get a little mean. Also -- Lightning round!List of Homestuck ship namesWe discovered the Psiioniic art we use is fanart so here it isQ&A Submission FormTwitchPepsicola DrabbleDirk/Dave/Karkat ficHeroes of Lite ttrpgTensei's Links:Tensei's BskyBard Rock CafeMusic by DomiEdited by JaxDomi's SoundcloudDomi's Ko-FiWebsiteNewsletterKo-fiDiscordEmailTwitterYoutubeTumblrTiktokThe Unofficial Homestuck CollectionFanstuck/Problematic Faves Submission FormE104 ★ Support this podcast ★

Alpha Kids: Get on fuckin in there for real thoughG's Meenah piece for the Disabledstuck zineThe Disabledstuck zineMoosie on itchMoosie's personal websiteMusic and edited by DomiDomi's SoundcloudDomi's Ko-FiWebsiteNewsletterKo-fiDiscordTwitterYoutubeTumblrTiktokThe Unofficial Homestuck CollectionFanstuck/Problematic Faves Submission FormE103 ★ Support this podcast ★

The One Piece manga is back! On this week's episode of The One Piece Podcast we go through One Piece Chapter 1112, “Hard Aspects” with special guests Stephen Paul (translator for One Piece in Shonen Jump & Manga Plus), KC Green (cartoonist and comic artist behind Gunshow [home of the "This is Fine" meme], Graveyard Quest, and storyboard artist for Adventure Time), Cohen Edenfield (writer and game designer, whose credits include Hiveswap [a spin-off from Homestuck], Disney Heroes: Battle Mode, and Transformers: Galaxies). Both KC & Cohen participate as DooDoo the Owl and the Mayor/DM/others, respectively, on the DND podcast Skulltenders. In addition to our Manga Recap, we have our Anime Recap for One Piece Episode 1101, “The Strongest Form of Humanity! The Seraphim's Power!“ We also have our Piece Together segment, where we take your questions, comments, and theories and some trivia — and go through some of KC's theories. Finally, we have our annual trivia from fan/friend of the show Ben Wild! SUBSCRIBE TO US ON PATREON! You can subscribe on Patreon and get access to ad-free episodes and our 800+ episode archive, our exclusive series 4'ced to Watch 4Kids with Steve & Alex, our full-length film OPPJapan, exclusive episodes with our special guests and a lot more. 00:00:00 Introduction; 00:17:21 Manga Recap: Chapter 1112; 00:00:00 Anime Recap: Episode 1101; 01:38:18 Piece Together; 02:17:11 To Be Continued… and Trivia! NEWS & UPDATES OPLA! is back for a whole new season! Check out interviews with the cast including Aidan Scott (Helmeppo), Alexander Maniatis (Kuro), Craig Fairbrass (Zeff) and Chioma Umeala (Nojiko)! We will be LIVE at the City Winery once again on Sunday, August 25th at 7:00 PM ET! Tickets will be on sale soon, check back for more! You can check out our last live podcast performance here! Don't miss out, subscribe at patreon.com/onepiecepodcast to get the full One Piece Podcast experience!  We have an all new series about the history of 4Kids … as told by the people who were actually there. Check out 4Kids Flashback every Wednesday! Episode Credits Hosted by Zach, Ed, Steve & Alex Special Guests: KC Green (cartoonist and comic artist behind Gunshow [home of the "This is Fine" meme], Graveyard Quest, and storyboard artist for Adventure Time) Cohen Edenfield (writer and game designer, whose credits include Hiveswap [a spin-off from Homestuck], Disney Heroes: Battle Mode, and Transformers: Galaxies) Stephen Paul (translator for One Piece in Shonen Jump & Manga Plus) Art by Steve Yurko Edited by Delaney Jordan OPP Logo by Yuin Music composed and arranged by Kirsten Carey, and featuring accompaniment by: Ben Willis, Bass Jonathan Taylor, Drums Molly Jones, Flute and Saxophone Cory Murphy, Trombone and Tuba Dave Hurley, Percussion Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices