Podcast appearances and mentions of Mark Krikorian

Andrew Day and Joseph Addington talk to Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies about the multifaceted disaster of uncontrolled migration and the Trump administration's approach to the issue. Recorded June 16, 2026.

Spouting Off with Karen Kataline Borders, Western Memory, Medicine, and the Green Energy Fight in a Post–Alan Nathan Era Guests, Mark Krikorian, James Hankins, Dr. Toby Watson and Steve Goreham Carrying Forward the Alan Nathan Tradition In this episode of Spouting Off, host Karen Kataline continues what she describes as a new era for The Alan Nathan Show and the Alan Nathan All-Stars following Alan Nathan's untimely passing. She explains that the show will continue in his memory and honor, with her likely continuing to host many Monday editions. The program includes a mix of political commentary, interviews, tribute references, sponsor segments, and closing reflections on the Main Street Radio Network's transition after Alan Nathan's death. Mark Krikorian on Immigration, Libertarianism, and Sanctuary Policies Karen's first major guest is Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies. They discuss immigration policy, libertarian support for open immigration, and the conflict between open borders and a welfare state. Krikorian argues that libertarians once aligned more often with conservatives on taxes, regulation, and government size, but now often align with the left on issues of sovereignty, borders, and immigration. Karen presses the question of whether open immigration can coexist with government benefits and public services. Chicago, Illinois, and Immigration Enforcement The conversation then focuses on Chicago, Cook County, and Illinois as sanctuary jurisdictions. Krikorian says local law enforcement is prevented from cooperating with immigration enforcement, even when people arrested for local crimes are found to be deportable. He says ICE primarily wants local authorities to hold such individuals long enough for federal agents to take custody, but sanctuary policies interfere with that process. Karen and Krikorian also discuss Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker, Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson, and conflicts involving ICE facilities and federal officers. Karen's Commentary on Communism, Democracy, and the Mayoral Race After the first interview, Karen turns to commentary about an upcoming mayoral race and expresses concern about a candidate she describes as Marxist, communist, or democratic socialist. She argues that communist movements often misrepresent their intentions and that terms such as democracy, republic, socialism, and communism are being confused or misused. Her commentary frames the political moment as one in which the left has embraced ideas she sees as hostile to private property, constitutional government, and individual liberty. James Hankins and the Lost Western Tradition Karen then interviews James Hankins, Harvard University historian and co-author of The Golden Thread: A History of the Western Tradition. Hankins describes the book as an effort to recover the history of Western civilization from the ancient Greeks and Romans through the Middle Ages and into the modern world. He argues that Western civilization has not been adequately taught in schools or universities for decades and says that ignorance of history contributes to political confusion, especially around communism, democracy, and republican government. Harvard, Communism, and Historical Amnesia Karen asks Hankins about teaching at Harvard, which she criticizes as politically hostile to conservative viewpoints. Hankins responds that he does not believe the entire university is corrupt, but says some of the loudest voices tend to come from administrators and graduate students rather than the whole institution. The short interview emphasizes the importance of understanding the past, learning clear definitions, and recognizing that terms like democracy and republic carry meanings rooted in Western history. Dr. Toby Watson on Psychiatric Medication and Violence Another major guest is Dr. Toby Watson, a clinical psychologist from Wisconsin. He describes his background researching psychotropic medications, presenting data to the FDA, working on black-box warning labels for SSRIs, and consulting in forensic cases where medication may be connected to violent or self-destructive behavior. Karen asks whether antidepressants and psychiatric medications can fuel violence, and Watson says that SSRIs are known to increase suicidal thoughts and behavior in some patients, especially through a condition he identifies as akathisia, which involves intense restlessness, agitation, and emotional distress. Politics, Medication, and Social Contagion Karen asks whether the issue may involve more than money and whether political motives could be connected to the suppression of information about medication risks. Watson says he believes political factors are involved and connects the issue to broader claims about family breakdown, poverty, medication use among vulnerable populations, and disability outcomes. Karen also raises gender ideology, social contagion, and the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Watson says he does not have direct knowledge of that case but suggests the profile could fit someone who had used psychiatric medication, while making clear he cannot confirm it. Steve Goreham on Climate Policy and Rising Energy Costs The final interview features Steve Goreham, executive director of the Climate Science Coalition of America and author of Green Breakdown: The Coming Renewable Energy Failure. Karen asks him about rising electricity prices and green-energy mandates. Goreham argues that wind, solar, and other renewable-energy policies are driving costs higher, particularly in blue states. He contrasts states such as California, Maine, New York, Maryland, Massachusetts, and Connecticut with states that still rely more heavily on natural gas or coal, saying the latter have seen lower electricity-price increases. Green Energy, Pipelines, and the AI Power Demand Goreham also discusses the effects of federal policy, the “one big beautiful bill,” pipeline politics, and Donald Trump's opposition to green-energy mandates. He says Trump is using leverage over offshore wind and pipeline approvals, particularly involving New York and New England energy access. The discussion then shifts to artificial intelligence and the rapid growth of data centers, which Goreham says require reliable twenty-four-hour power that cannot be supplied by wind and solar alone. He argues that the AI energy demand may overwhelm net-zero and green-energy policies. A Show in Transition Karen closes the program by emphasizing that the Alan Nathan All-Stars are entering a new chapter while keeping Alan Nathan as their guiding star. Across the episode, she uses interviews and commentary to connect immigration, political ideology, Western civilization, psychiatric medication, climate policy, energy costs, and media narratives. The program remains strongly opinion-driven, with Karen and her guests framing current events through themes of sovereignty, liberty, historical memory, institutional mistrust, and resistance to centralized control.

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Spouting Off with Karen Kataline Immigration, Western Civilization, Psychiatric Drugs, and Green Energy Karen Kataline Continues the Alan Nathan Show in Alan's Memory In this episode of The Alan Nathan Show / Alan Nathan All-Stars, host Karen Kataline opens by acknowledging the untimely passing of Alan Nathan and explaining that the show continues in his memory and honor. She notes that she and Alan had often done Mondays together and says it is an honor to help continue the program during this transitional period for the Main Street Radio Network. Throughout the episode, Karen frames the broadcast as part of a new chapter while preserving the spirit, name, and tradition of the Alan Nathan All-Stars. Immigration, Libertarianism, and Sanctuary Policies Karen's first guest is the executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, identified in the transcript as Mark Krikorian or a similar spelling. They discuss immigration enforcement, libertarian arguments for open immigration, and the tension between open borders and a welfare state. Mark argues that libertarians once aligned more closely with conservatives on taxes, regulation, and the size of government, but now often align with the left on questions of sovereignty, borders, and immigration. He cites Milton Friedman's argument that open immigration and a welfare state cannot coexist and says that while social programs can be tightened, the welfare state is not simply going away. Chicago, ICE, and Local Non-Cooperation The discussion then turns to Chicago, Cook County, and Illinois, which Mark describes as sanctuary jurisdictions. He explains that ICE is not asking local police to conduct immigration checks in the street, but to hold criminal suspects who are already arrested and fingerprinted if they are deportable, so ICE can take custody. He argues that sanctuary policies release deportable offenders back into communities and says this especially harms immigrant neighborhoods. Karen and Mark also criticize Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson and Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker, accusing them of interfering with immigration enforcement and downplaying violence in Chicago. Karen Reflects on Alan Nathan and the Show's Transition After the first interview and intervening ad segments, Karen returns to discuss the show's transition after Alan Nathan's death. She encourages listeners to hear the tribute program that aired over the weekend and recalls clips of Alan and his wife Jane from years earlier, describing their on-air chemistry as entertaining, lively, argumentative, and classic talk radio. Karen says it is a sad time for everyone at Main Street Radio Network, but emphasizes that the Alan Nathan Show and Alan Nathan All-Stars tradition will continue. James Hankins on The Golden Thread and Western Civilization Karen then welcomes James Hankins, described as a Harvard University historian and co-author of The Golden Thread: A History of the Western Tradition. Hankins explains that the “golden thread” is a metaphor for the Western tradition, and that the book aims to recover the history of Western civilization from the ancient Greeks and Romans through the Middle Ages and into the modern world. He argues that this history has not been properly taught in schools or universities for decades, leaving people without a shared understanding of democracy, republics, communism, socialism, and the meaning of Western civic life. Communism, Democratic Socialism, and Historical Amnesia Karen connects the discussion to contemporary politics, warning against Marxism, communism, and democratic socialism. Hankins says many people who call themselves democratic socialists do not understand what the term means or how socialism has operated historically. He argues that adding the word “democratic” does not solve the deeper problem, because socialism has not historically favored democracy. Karen and Hankins agree that many public arguments suffer because people no longer share basic definitions or historical knowledge, especially about the distinction between a republic and a democracy. Dr. Toby Watson on Psychiatric Drugs and Violence Later, Karen interviews clinical psychologist Dr. Toby Watson, who says he has worked on research and testimony related to psychiatric medications, including SSRI antidepressants and black-box warning labels. Watson says his work involves outcome research on psychotropic medications and forensic cases where people with no history of violence commit violent or self-destructive acts after taking medication. Karen asks whether antidepressants and psychiatric medications may be contributing to violence, especially in the wake of Columbine-era discussions. Watson answers strongly that SSRIs can increase suicidal thoughts and behavior and says this is acknowledged in FDA black-box warnings. Akathisia, Political Motives, and Youth Medication Dr. Watson discusses akathisia, describing it as an inner agitation or restlessness that can make people feel as though they want to crawl out of their skin. He says it can occur with SSRIs and is even more common with antipsychotics. Karen asks whether suppression of this information may be about more than money, suggesting possible political motives. Watson agrees that politics can be involved and argues that children in poverty, especially those connected to Medicaid or Medicare systems, are disproportionately medicated at higher doses even when diagnosis and symptom severity are considered. He also references Anatomy of an Epidemic and argues that long-term psychiatric drug use can contribute to disability and general decline. Gender Ideology, Violence Profiles, and Dr. Watson's Cautions Karen and Watson also discuss social contagion, gender ideology, and political violence. Karen asks about the murder of Charlie Kirk and whether the alleged killer was on psychiatric medication. Watson says he has no direct knowledge and is not involved in that investigation, cautioning that too much misinformation is circulating to make a firm claim. However, he says the suspect fits a known profile for certain kinds of shooters and that, statistically, it would not surprise him if psychiatric medication were involved. Karen closes the short segment by inviting Watson back and directing listeners to his work online. Steve Goreham / Gorham on Green Energy and Rising Electricity Prices Karen closes the show with Steve Goreham or Steve Gorham, described as executive director of the Climate Science Coalition of America and author of Green Breakdown: The Coming Renewable Energy Failure. The conversation focuses on rising electricity prices, renewable energy policies, and what Karen calls the “green new scam.” Steve argues that expensive electricity increases are concentrated in blue states that have pursued aggressive green policies, naming California, Maine, New York, Maryland, Massachusetts, and Connecticut. He contrasts those with states such as Georgia, Florida, Texas, and Missouri, which he says rely more on natural gas or coal and have seen smaller increases. AI, Data Centers, Pipelines, and Energy Reality Steve argues that green-energy policies are running into the reality of rising electricity demand, especially from artificial intelligence and data centers built by companies such as Meta, Microsoft, and Amazon. He says AI-related electricity demand requires constant 24-hour power and cannot be reliably supported by wind and solar alone. Karen and Steve also discuss the Keystone pipeline, New York pipeline politics, natural gas constraints in New England, offshore wind leverage, and the role of Trump administration energy policy. Steve closes by directing listeners to his book Green Breakdown and website. Closing the New Chapter of the Alan Nathan All-Stars Karen ends the show by saying the Alan Nathan All-Stars are heading into a new chapter, but with Alan Nathan still serving as the program's guiding star. The episode as a whole blends remembrance of Alan with Karen's political and cultural commentary, moving through immigration enforcement, Western civilization, psychiatric drugs, gender ideology, energy policy, and the future of American public debate.

The latest episode of the Center for Immigration Studies podcast examines how the federal government can reduce illegal immigration through administrative, financial, and workplace enforcement measures designed to encourage self-deportation rather than relying primarily on large-scale arrest operations.Andrew Arthur, the Center's fellow in law and policy, joins George Fishman, the Center's senior legal fellow, to discuss what they describe as “briefcase immigration enforcement” — the wide range of legal and regulatory tools available to federal agencies that can make it more difficult for illegal aliens to remain and work in the United States indefinitely.The discussion follows recent Center blogs analyzing President Trump's Executive Order, “Restoring Integrity to America's Financial System,” which directs federal agencies to examine how banking regulations, lending practices, and identification requirements may facilitate illegal immigration and unlawful employment.The podcast examines measures such as requiring proof of legal status to send remittances abroad, restricting access to the U.S. banking system for those here unlawfully, and imposing criminal and civil penalties on aliens who fail to depart within 90 days of receiving final removal orders. The discussion covers proposals to send Social Security “no-match” letters to employers, make more it difficult for illegal aliens to obtain identification documents and driver's licenses, revoke commercial driver's licenses issued improperly, and expand employers' access to photo-matching verification to confirm worker identity and employment eligibility.In the final commentary, Mark Krikorian, the Center's executive director and podcast host, discusses a recent Center report arguing that Congress should consider increasing the waiting period for naturalization to give applicants more time to demonstrate their character and commitment to the principles of the Constitution. The “1798 Solution”, so named because from 1798 to 1802 the wait was 14 years, may be one of the most effective tools available to prevent individuals who pose national security threats from obtaining U.S. citizenship.HostMark Krikorian is the Executive Director of the Center for Immigration Studies.GuestsAndrew Arthur is a Fellow in Law and Policy at the Center for Immigration Studies.George Fishman is a Senior Legal Fellow at the Center for Immigration Studies.LinksBig Banks and U.S. Treasury Have Been Enabling Illegal Immigration for Two DecadesTrump to Banks: Illegal Aliens are Bad Credit RisksDHS and DOJ Begin Imposing Massive Fines on Aliens Who Refuse to LeavePreventing Naturalization National Security Threats: The 1789 SolutionIntro MontageVoices in the opening montage:Sen. Barack Obama at a 2005 press conference.Sen. John McCain in a 2010 election ad.President Lyndon Johnson, upon signing the 1965 Immigration Act.Booker T. Washington, reading in 1908 from his 1895 Atlanta Exposition speech.Laraine Newman as a "Conehead" on SNL in 1977.Hillary Clinton in a 2003 radio interview.Cesar Chavez in a 1974 interview.House Speaker Nancy Pelosi speaking to reporters in 2019.Prof. George Borjas in a 2016 C-SPAN appearance.Sen. Jeff Sessions in 2008 comments on the Senate floor.Candidate Trump in 2015 campaign speech.Charlton Heston in "Planet of the Apes".

Washington Watch Reporter Mary Stackhouse reports on the election results in Texas, the White House Cabinet meeting, and the Trump administration's plan to force federal employees to sign non-disclosure agreements to hold them accountable and stop

As the nation awaits a potentially landmark Supreme Court decision on birthright citizenship, the latest episode of Parsing Immigration Policy features renowned legal scholar Richard Epstein for an in-depth discussion of the constitutional, historical, and legal arguments surrounding the issue.Epstein, emeritus professor at the New York University School of Law and the University of Chicago Law School, senior fellow at the Civitas Institute at the University of Texas at Austin, and author of the new book The Myth of Birthright Citizenship, recently filed an amicus brief in the Supreme Court case Trump v. Barbara. In the brief, Epstein argues that the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment does not automatically confer citizenship on children born in the United States to illegal aliens.During the conversation, Epstein explains that understanding the issue requires careful textual and historical analysis of the Fourteenth Amendment, particularly the phrase “subject to the jurisdiction thereof.”According to Epstein, the clause requires more than mere physical presence or birth within the United States. He argues that individuals born owing allegiance to a foreign sovereign, or whose parents are not under the complete jurisdiction of the United States, are excluded from automatic citizenship.The episode also explores Epstein's critique of the Supreme Court's 1898 decision in United States v. Wong Kim Ark, which is widely understood as establishing birthright citizenship under the Fourteenth Amendment. Epstein contends the ruling was wrongly decided and should not be extended to cases involving children born to illegal immigrants.Drawing on centuries of legal history, Epstein discusses the overlooked Naturalization Acts from 1790 to 1870, the writings of influential thinkers including William Blackstone and Emer de Vattel, and American legal practices before and after the Civil War. He argues that citizenship historically required allegiance and mutual obligations between citizen and sovereign - not simply birth within territorial boundaries.In his closing commentary, podcast host Mark Krikorian discusses the ongoing legislative battle over funding for CBP and ICE through 2029. Republicans are advancing a budget reconciliation package that could reach the House floor as early as this week or next. Because reconciliation bills can pass with a simple majority, the legislation would bypass the Senate's traditional 60-vote filibuster threshold. Krikorian highlights that the Democratic Party has embraced positions hostile to the existence of immigration enforcement agencies, creating potential political consequences in upcoming debates and elections.HostMark Krikorian is the Executive Director of the Center for Immigration Studies.GuestRichard Epstein is Emeritus Professor at the New York University School of Law and the University of Chicago Law School and Senior Fellow at the Civitas Institute at the University of Texas at Austin.LinksThe Myth of Birthright CitizenshipThe Case Against Birthright CitizenshipBrief of Amicus Curiae: Professor A. Epstein in Support of the Petitioners and ReversalIntro MontageVoices in the opening montage:Sen. Barack Obama at a 2005 press conference.Sen. John McCain in a 2010 election ad.President Lyndon Johnson, upon signing the 1965 Immigration Act.Booker T. Washington, reading in 1908 from his 1895 Atlanta Exposition speech.Laraine Newman as a "Conehead" on SNL in 1977.Hillary Clinton in a 2003 radio interview.Cesar Chavez in a 1974 interview.House Speaker Nancy Pelosi speaking to reporters in 2019.Prof. George Borjas in a 2016 C-SPAN appearance.Sen. Jeff Sessions in 2008 comments on the Senate floor.Candidate Trump in 2015 campaign speech.Charlton Heston in "Planet of the Apes".

A new episode of the Center for Immigration Studies' podcast, Parsing Immigration Policy, examines the issuing of employment authorization documents (EADs), the use of executive discretion in granting work permits, and a proposed regulation affecting asylum applicants.The episode features CIS Director of Regulatory Affairs and Policy Elizabeth Jacobs and Senior Legal Fellow George Fishman discussing how millions of immigrants, including illegal aliens, parole recipients, TPS beneficiaries, DACA recipients, asylum applicants, and temporary visa holders, have received work permits without Congress's authorization.According to CIS estimates, roughly 15 million individuals currently possess work authorization and 4.3 million illegal aliens may be eligible for work permits. As a result, USCIS reports that it faces more than 1.7 million pending EAD applications.The discussion also focuses on a recent DHS regulation that would tighten eligibility for asylum-based work permits by increasing the waiting period from 180 to 365 days and barring applicants who are prima facie ineligible for asylum from receiving employment authorization and requiring the agency to pause acceptance of asylum-based EAD applications when affirmative asylum processing times exceed 180 days. Currently, processing times average over 1,200 days, while a new affirmative asylum applicant could expect to wait decades, according to DHS, before receiving a final decision on their claim.The episode explains that lengthy asylum processing times have created strong incentives for individuals to file asylum claims primarily to obtain work authorization and remain in the United States for extended periods while cases are pending. USCIS currently faces massive asylum and EAD backlogs, contributing to longer processing times across the immigration system.The conversation also examines broader legal questions surrounding executive authority to issue work permits under the Immigration and Nationality Act and whether decades of expanding administrative interpretation have effectively allowed the executive branch to operate an immigration system outside the numerical and statutory limits established by Congress.In his closing commentary, Mark Krikorian, the Center's executive director and podcast host highlights Acting ICE Director Todd Lyons' recent announcement that ICE identified more than 10,000 foreign students in the Optional Practical Training (OPT) program who claimed employment with “highly suspect employers” and that this represents “only the tip of the iceberg.” OPT, which allows foreign graduates to work in the United States for up to 12 months, or up to 36 months for STEM graduates, was created through executive action rather than congressional authorization. The Center has called for the elimination of the program many times in the past.HostMark Krikorian is the Executive Director of the Center for Immigration Studies.GuestsElizabeth Jacobs is the Director of Director of Regulatory Affairs and Policy at the Center for Immigration Studies. George Fishman is a Senior Legal Fellow at the Center for Immigration Studies.LinksDHS Proposes to Amend Asylum Work-Permit Rules to Reduce Fraud and AbuseDOJ: Asylum Applicants Are Skipping Immigration Court at Record Levels; Their goal all along was work permits, not protectionDHS Issues New Regulation to Automatically Extend the Validity Period of Many Work PermitsWork Authorization Expansion Attracts and Embeds Illegal ImmigrantsGovernment Data Reveal Millions of New Work Permits Issued in 2009OPT Needs to EndIntro MontageVoices in the opening montage:Sen. Barack Obama at a 2005 press conference.Sen. John McCain in a 2010 election ad.President Lyndon Johnson, upon signing the 1965 Immigration Act.Booker T. Washington, reading in 1908 from his 1895 Atlanta Exposition speech.Laraine Newman as a "Conehead" on SNL in 1977.Hillary Clinton in a 2003 radio interview.Cesar Chavez in a 1974 interview.House Speaker Nancy Pelosi speaking to reporters in 2019.Prof. George Borjas in a 2016 C-SPAN appearance.Sen. Jeff Sessions in 2008 comments on the Senate floor.Candidate Trump in 2015 campaign speech.Charlton Heston in "Planet of the Apes".

The Center for Immigration Studies has released a new episode of its weekly podcast analyzing the Trump administration's use of travel restrictions and visa limitations affecting dozens of countries.In the episode, Jessica Vaughan, CIS's Director of Policy Studies, explains that the administration has implemented a series of “more expansive and more targeted” travel restrictions than seen in his first administration – affecting 75 countries through a combination of full bans, partial restrictions, and category-specific limitations.“These policies are not one-size-fits-all,” Vaughan notes. “They are tailored to specific concerns, including national security risks, weak identity verification systems, and high visa overstay rates, some exceeding 50 percent in certain categories. The restrictions are subject to periodic review.”Additionally, the podcast examines a January 2026 State Department pause on immigrant visa issuance for certain countries under public charge considerations, affecting nations with high rates of welfare use among immigrants.Vaughan's discussion with CIS Executive Director and podcast host Mark Krikorian covers how Congress has granted the president authority to restrict entry in the national interest, forming the legal basis for these measures. Currently, restrictions vary widely:Some countries face full entry bans;Others are subject to partial limits, such as restrictions on student or tourist visas;Waivers are available for compelling cases.Vaughan emphasizes that these policies coincide with a broader effort to strengthen vetting processes at U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services and the State Department. This includes expanded fraud detection, a new National Vetting Center, and more special agents being hired.The policies are already reducing entries and agency workload, but their full impact remains unclear, as the administration has not yet released detailed data.In his closing commentary, Krikorian discusses two blog posts this week on assimilation in Miami, by Resident Scholar Jason Richwine. The experience of Miami shows that assimilation into the mainstream is not inevitable and automatic, and that large-scale admissions can make receiving communities unrecognizable. Keeping immigration low and slow is the key to successful assimilation.HostMark Krikorian is the Executive Director of the Center for Immigration Studies.GuestJessica Vaughan is the Director of Policy Studies at the Center for Immigration Studies.LinksPublic Charge PauseExec Order on travel bansMiami: A Failure of the Assimilation ModelMore on Miami as a Failure of AssimilationIntro MontageVoices in the opening montage:Sen. Barack Obama at a 2005 press conference.Sen. John McCain in a 2010 election ad.President Lyndon Johnson, upon signing the 1965 Immigration Act.Booker T. Washington, reading in 1908 from his 1895 Atlanta Exposition speech.Laraine Newman as a "Conehead" on SNL in 1977.Hillary Clinton in a 2003 radio interview.Cesar Chavez in a 1974 interview.House Speaker Nancy Pelosi speaking to reporters in 2019.Prof. George Borjas in a 2016 C-SPAN appearance.Sen. Jeff Sessions in 2008 comments on the Senate floor.Candidate Trump in 2015 campaign speech.Charlton Heston in "Planet of the Apes".

At a recent Immigration Newsmaker hosted by the Center for Immigration Studies, Andrew Veprek, Assistant Secretary of State for the Bureau of Population, Refugees, and Migration (PRM), described a complete reorientation of the bureau, shifting it from a humanitarian assistance agency toward implementing U.S. enforcement and return priorities. The discussion offered a look at how immigration policy is increasingly being implemented through diplomacy as well as enforcement.In a discussion moderated by Mark Krikorian, Veprek said PRM is now organized around three basic functions:Remigration and Returns. Veprek outlined the work of PRM's Office of Remigration, including securing cooperation from foreign governments to facilitate the repatriation of nationals ordered removed, arranging third-country transfers when return to home countries is not possible, and supporting voluntary return efforts through Project Homecoming.International Migration and Refugee System Reform. Veprek discussed reforms to the global refugee and asylum system, and U.S. reassessment of international migration frameworks, including reduced reliance on multilateral institutions and changes in relations with United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees.Refugee Processing. He also detailed changes to refugee admissions, including the South Africa resettlement program, the transfer of refugee resettlement responsibilities from the State Department to HHS, increased fraud scrutiny, and the removal of UNHCR from its prior referral role in U.S. refugee admissions.Among the notable points raised during the discussion:Greater foreign cooperation from “recalcitrant” countries on accepting deportees;Use of third-country removal arrangements;Consideration of refugee protection as temporary rather than presumptively permanent;Potential increases to the refugee admissions ceiling;A more selective approach to international organizations based on U.S. interests.HostMark Krikorian is the Executive Director of the Center for Immigration Studies.GuestAndrew Veprek is the Assistant Secretary of State for the Bureau of Population, Refugees, and Migration (PRM).LinksTranscript: Immigration Newsmaker with Andrew VeprekVideo: Immigration Newsmaker with Andrew VeprekIntro MontageVoices in the opening montage:Sen. Barack Obama at a 2005 press conference.Sen. John McCain in a 2010 election ad.President Lyndon Johnson, upon signing the 1965 Immigration Act.Booker T. Washington, reading in 1908 from his 1895 Atlanta Exposition speech.Laraine Newman as a "Conehead" on SNL in 1977.Hillary Clinton in a 2003 radio interview.Cesar Chavez in a 1974 interview.House Speaker Nancy Pelosi speaking to reporters in 2019.Prof. George Borjas in a 2016 C-SPAN appearance.Sen. Jeff Sessions in 2008 comments on the Senate floor.Candidate Trump in 2015 campaign speech.Charlton Heston in "Planet of the Apes".

A new podcast episode features immigration policy expert Rosemary Jenks, Policy Director and co-founder of the Immigration Accountability Project, providing a detailed analysis of the DIGNIDAD Act introduced for the third time in six years by Rep. Maria Salazar (R-Fla.). Jenks characterizes the legislation as a broad amnesty proposal, referring to it as the “SAW Act” - short for “Screw All American Workers,” while also alluding to the 1986 Special Agricultural Worker program associated with widespread fraud.Key points discussed include:Scope of AmnestyDirect pathway to citizenship for an estimated 2.5 million “Dreamers,” extending beyond current DACA recipientsRenewable temporary visas for individuals who entered before 2021, with weak documentation requirements that will invite fraud; these visas are indefinitely renewable, effectively allowing recipients to remain in the U.S. permanently.A “rolling amnesty” mechanism tied to family-based immigration, including marriage to U.S. citizens Enforcement and Legal ConcernsA two-year deportation moratorium, allowing individuals, including those currently in detention, to avoid deportation and applyRestrictions on using applicant information for enforcement, shielding employers who hired illegal alien workersConcerns about increased incentives for fraud, including marriage fraudSystem Capacity and SecuritySkepticism about USCIS being able to manage a minimum of 10 million applications, numbers that will grow substantially if fraud is widespreadStrict timelines with rapid processing within a two-year window, raising concerns that vetting standards, particularly national security screening, would be among the first elements weakened under pressure, echoing issues seen in past programsDoubts that application fees would cover the full cost, especially given applicants' limited financial resources; critics warn this could create openings for third-party financing, including from cartelsHistorical comparisons to the 1986 amnesty program, where rapid processing contributed to massive fraud and lack of vettingEconomic and Labor Market ImpactImpact on wages and job opportunities for low-, medium-, and high-wage American workersExpansion of legal immigration pathways, including:Doubling employment-based green cardsCodifying OPT and allowing STEM PhD and medical students to stay permanently in the countryPermitting those on the visa waiting list for 10 years to enter regardless of capsThe episode also explores the political outlook for the legislation, including the possibility of a discharge petition in the House, which would allow it to come to the floor despite Speaker Johnson's wishes.In his closing commentary, podcast host Mark Krikorian highlights the recent election in Hungary, which resulted in the defeat of Prime Minister Viktor Orbán, widely known for his hardline immigration stance. But his successor, Péter Magyar, is expected to maintain, and perhaps even strengthen, the current strict immigration policies.HostMark Krikorian is the Executive Director of the Center for Immigration Studies.GuestRosemary Jenks is the Policy Director and co-founder of the Immigration Accountability ProjectLinksImmigration Accountability ProjectThe 'Dignity Act'The Price of DignityThe DIGNIDAD (Dignity) Act as ‘Rage Bait' for Those Who Want More EnforcementIntro MontageVoices in the opening montage:Sen. Barack Obama at a 2005 press conference.Sen. John McCain in a 2010 election ad.President Lyndon Johnson, upon signing the 1965 Immigration Act.Booker T. Washington, reading in 1908 from his 1895 Atlanta Exposition speech.Laraine Newman as a "Conehead" on SNL in 1977.Hillary Clinton in a 2003 radio interview.Cesar Chavez in a 1974 interview.House Speaker Nancy Pelosi speaking to reporters in 2019.Prof. George Borjas in a 2016 C-SPAN appearance.Sen. Jeff Sessions in 2008 comments on the Senate floor.Candidate Trump in 2015 campaign speech.Charlton Heston in "Planet of the Apes".

The Center for Immigration Studies has released a new episode of its podcast featuring CIS experts Andrew “Art” Arthur and George Fishman, who reflect on their time working together on Capitol Hill, including their firsthand experiences on September 11, 2001, and the major immigration legislation that followed.The episode offers a behind-the-scenes look at how immigration laws are made. Arthur and Fishman recount the immediate aftermath of 9/11 as staffers on House Judiciary Committee and their roles in drafting legislation that helped reshape U.S. immigration enforcement, including efforts that contributed to the Homeland Security Act of 2002 and the breakup of INS into enforcement and service components within the new Department of Homeland Security.The discussion also explores contentious debates over criminal penalties, interior enforcement, and proposals that sparked nationwide protests in the mid-2000s. From the USA PATRIOT Act to the REAL ID Act of 2005, the episode highlights how national security concerns reshaped immigration policy and how some key recommendations, such as the creation of a biometric entry-exit system, remain unfulfilled decades later.Podcast host and CIS executive director Mark Krikorian also reminds listeners of today's International Network for Immigration Research (INIR) event (streamed live at noon ET) hosted by the Center. Panelists from CIS, NumbersUSA, FAIR, and the Budapest-based Migration Research Institute examine whether modern democracies can carry out large-scale deportations.HostMark Krikorian is the Executive Director of the Center for Immigration Studies.GuestsAndrew Arthur is the Resident Fellow of Law and Policy at the Center for Immigration Studies.George Fishman is a Senior Legal Fellow at the Center for Immigration Studies.Intro MontageVoices in the opening montage:Sen. Barack Obama at a 2005 press conference.Sen. John McCain in a 2010 election ad.President Lyndon Johnson, upon signing the 1965 Immigration Act.Booker T. Washington, reading in 1908 from his 1895 Atlanta Exposition speech.Laraine Newman as a "Conehead" on SNL in 1977.Hillary Clinton in a 2003 radio interview.Cesar Chavez in a 1974 interview.House Speaker Nancy Pelosi speaking to reporters in 2019.Prof. George Borjas in a 2016 C-SPAN appearance.Sen. Jeff Sessions in 2008 comments on the Senate floor.Candidate Trump in 2015 campaign speech.Charlton Heston in "Planet of the Apes".

The Department of Homeland Security is still without funding. While the Republican majority is in favor of the funding, their efforts are being stymied by Democratic leadership in the Senate who's refusing to allow such legislation to advance. Despite the lack of funding, the DHS continues to report on apprehensions. You'd think that the nation would respond in gratitude for these efforts to rid the country of those who commit heinous crimes. Unfortunately, the opposite is taking place with the mainstream media fanning the flames. Returning to Crosstalk to discuss these and other related issues was Mark Krikorian. Mark is a nationally recognized expert on immigration issues, serving as the Executive Director of Center for Immigration Studies. Mark began by noting that while it's bad enough that we had the earlier shutdown fights, this isn't a tantrum over a policy issue. Instead, he believes the Democrats are trying to fix Biden/Harris-style immigration policies into law that were soundly rejected by voters when Donald Trump was voted in as president. He also noted that Democrats need to realize the Republicans could do something similar and have a shut-down over something like the EPA. Several other points that Mark commented on include: Why the media is so reluctant to talk about killings by illegal aliens. Was Mark surprised that Secretary of State Marco Rubio terminated the lawful, permanent resident status of Hamideh Soleimani Afshar and her daughter? New DHS Secretary Markwayne Mullin is courting the idea of removing Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agents from international airports in sanctuary cities.

The Department of Homeland Security is still without funding. While the Republican majority is in favor of the funding, their efforts are being stymied by Democratic leadership in the Senate who's refusing to allow such legislation to advance. Despite the lack of funding, the DHS continues to report on apprehensions. You'd think that the nation would respond in gratitude for these efforts to rid the country of those who commit heinous crimes. Unfortunately, the opposite is taking place with the mainstream media fanning the flames. Returning to Crosstalk to discuss these and other related issues was Mark Krikorian. Mark is a nationally recognized expert on immigration issues, serving as the Executive Director of Center for Immigration Studies. Mark began by noting that while it's bad enough that we had the earlier shutdown fights, this isn't a tantrum over a policy issue. Instead, he believes the Democrats are trying to fix Biden/Harris-style immigration policies into law that were soundly rejected by voters when Donald Trump was voted in as president. He also noted that Democrats need to realize the Republicans could do something similar and have a shut-down over something like the EPA. Several other points that Mark commented on include: Why the media is so reluctant to talk about killings by illegal aliens. Was Mark surprised that Secretary of State Marco Rubio terminated the lawful, permanent resident status of Hamideh Soleimani Afshar and her daughter? New DHS Secretary Markwayne Mullin is courting the idea of removing Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agents from international airports in sanctuary cities.

In the 7 AM Hour: Larry O’Connor and Cassie Smedile discussed: INTERVIEW: Mark Krikorian: Executive Director of the Center for Immigration Studies with his reaction to the birthright citizenship debate at Supreme Court. More SCOTUS Arguments: Supreme Court Justices Gorsuch, Brown-Jackson and Coney Barrett weigh in on the birthright citizenship debate. DHS Compromise: Senate Leader John Thune and House Speaker Mike Johnson announced the apparent path forward on DHS funding in which they will support the bill the Senate passed w/ Dem support that funds all of DHS except ICE & CBP & will attempt to fund CBP & ICE through reconciliation without Dem votes. Newsom News: According to reports, California’s state Medicare program has lost 25 percent of its budget to fraud under Gov. Gavin Newsom’s leadership. Also, Newsom’s wife bashes the “alt-right” and “Jordan Peterson” types that somehow push hate to her kids. Where to find more about WMAL's morning show: Follow Podcasts on Apple Podcasts, Audible, and Spotify Follow WMAL's "O'Connor and Company" on X: @WMALDC, @LarryOConnor, @JGunlock, @PatricePinkfile, and @HeatherHunterDC Facebook: WMALDC and Larry O'Connor Instagram: WMALDC Website: WMAL.com/OConnor-Company Episode: Thursday, April 2, 2026 / 7 AM HourSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

WMAL GUEST: MARK KRIKORIAN (Executive Director of the Center for Immigration Studies) on the landmark Supreme Court oral arguments regarding President Trump’s executive order to end birthright citizenship and the justices' skepticism toward the administration's legal position. WEBSITE: CIS.org SOCIAL MEDIA: X.com/MarkSKrikorian Where to find more about WMAL's morning show: Follow Podcasts on Apple Podcasts, Audible, and Spotify Follow WMAL's "O'Connor and Company" on X: @WMALDC, @LarryOConnor, @JGunlock, @PatricePinkfile, and @HeatherHunterDC Facebook: WMALDC and Larry O'Connor Instagram: WMALDC Website: WMAL.com/OConnor-Company Episode: Thursday, April 2, 2026 / 7 AM HourSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The latest episode of the Center for Immigration Studies Podcast highlights the 13th Annual Border Tour. For the first time, the tour shifted away from land borders, bringing participants to South Florida to examine America's maritime boundaries and the unique challenges they present.Hosted with assistance from Anthony Coker, Gov. Ron DeSantis's “immigration czar”, the tour offered an in-depth look at Florida's highly coordinated, “all-of-government” approach to immigration enforcement. Participants observed firsthand the seamless collaboration between federal and state agencies operating under 287(g) authority, which allows state and local officers to carry out certain federal immigration functions.The tour began with a roundtable of federal and state partners, underscoring the strength of these relationships. Attendees later joined the Florida Highway Patrol on a ride-along, witnessing real-time coordination with ICE, including routine traffic stops that included high-speed pursuits and arrests of illegal aliens, one of whom was a convicted murderer.Participants also joined Florida Fish and Wildlife officers and State Guard units on the water, where maritime enforcement operations are supported by radar systems capable of monitoring activity as far as the Bahamas.A visit to the state-run detention facility known as “Alligator Alcatraz” highlighted both operational capacity and humanitarian standards, including comprehensive medical care for detainees.The tour concluded with visits to an immigration court and a naturalization ceremony, where Mark Krikorian delivered the keynote address, offering a powerful reminder of the legal immigration process and the meaning of American citizenship.Florida's model demonstrates how strong leadership and interagency cooperation can deliver effective, large-scale immigration enforcement.HostMark Krikorian is the Executive Director of the Center for Immigration Studies.GuestsMarguerite Telford is the Director of Communications at the Center for Immigration Studies.John Wahala is the Assistant Director at the Center for Immigration Studies.RelatedInside Florida's Alligator Alcatraz Detention CenterGov. Ron DeSantis on Florida's Gold Standard Immigration Enforcement ModelIntro MontageVoices in the opening montage:Sen. Barack Obama at a 2005 press conference.Sen. John McCain in a 2010 election ad.President Lyndon Johnson, upon signing the 1965 Immigration Act.Booker T. Washington, reading in 1908 from his 1895 Atlanta Exposition speech.Laraine Newman as a "Conehead" on SNL in 1977.Hillary Clinton in a 2003 radio interview.Cesar Chavez in a 1974 interview.House Speaker Nancy Pelosi speaking to reporters in 2019.Prof. George Borjas in a 2016 C-SPAN appearance.Sen. Jeff Sessions in 2008 comments on the Senate floor.Candidate Trump in 2015 campaign speech.Charlton Heston in "Planet of the Apes".

As the U.S. Supreme Court prepares to hear one of the most significant immigration cases in decades, a new podcast from the Center for Immigration Studies explores who is entitled to American citizenship at birth and which branch of government has the authority to define it.On April 1, the Court will hear Trump v. Barbara, a case challenging Executive Order 14160, which seeks to deny automatic citizenship to children born in the U.S. to parents who are in the country illegally or temporarily.In this episode, Hans von Spakovsky, Legal Fellow at Advancing American Freedom, and Andrew Arthur, the Center's Fellow in Law and Policy, examine the central constitutional question: what does the phrase “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” in the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution actually mean?They argue that the framers intended citizenship to depend on political allegiance, not simply place of birth, pointing to early interpretations and contrasting them with the broader reading adopted in the late nineteenth century in United States v. Wong Kim Ark.The Court could affirm current interpretation of doctrine, defer to executive interpretation, or return the issue to Congress.“This will be one of the most consequential decisions in years,” von Spakovsky notes.In the closing commentary, Mark Krikorian, executive director and podcast host, highlights a separate upcoming Supreme Court case involving Temporary Protected Status (TPS), where the statute states clearly that there is no judicial review of TPS designations. What are the limits to judicial review and will the judiciary allow the executive to carry out immigration law as written by Congress?HostMark Krikorian is the Executive Director of the Center for Immigration Studies.GuestsHans von Spakovsky is a Legal Fellow at Advancing American Freedom. Andrew Arthur is a Fellow in Law and Policy at the Center for Immigration Studies.RelatedBirthright Citizenship: A Fundamental Misunderstanding of the 14th AmendmentThe Best Aspects of the ‘Birthright Citizenship' DebateBirths to Illegal Immigrants and Long-Term Temporary VisitorsThe Supreme Court Takes Up a Vital, Slam-Dunk Immigration Case [TPS]Intro MontageVoices in the opening montage:Sen. Barack Obama at a 2005 press conference.Sen. John McCain in a 2010 election ad.President Lyndon Johnson, upon signing the 1965 Immigration Act.Booker T. Washington, reading in 1908 from his 1895 Atlanta Exposition speech.Laraine Newman as a "Conehead" on SNL in 1977.Hillary Clinton in a 2003 radio interview.Cesar Chavez in a 1974 interview.House Speaker Nancy Pelosi speaking to reporters in 2019.Prof. George Borjas in a 2016 C-SPAN appearance.Sen. Jeff Sessions in 2008 comments on the Senate floor.Candidate Trump in 2015 campaign speech.Charlton Heston in "Planet of the Apes".

U.S. Rep. Brandon Gill (TX) joined Mark Krikorian, the Center's executive director, for an Immigration Newsmaker conversation discussing U.S. immigration policy, border security, and potential reforms to both legal and illegal immigration systems. “We've had open borders for four years, with an estimated 15 to 20 million illegal immigrants entering the United States,” Gill said. […]

U.S. Rep. Brandon Gill (TX) joined Mark Krikorian, the Center's executive director, for an Immigration Newsmaker conversation discussing U.S. immigration policy, border security, and potential reforms to both legal and illegal immigration systems.“We've had open borders for four years, with an estimated 15 to 20 million illegal immigrants entering the United States,” Gill said. “It's the biggest political crisis we've faced in decades. More fundamentally, immigration touches everything else — it is the one issue that determines who we are as a country and as a people.”Gill addressed enforcement policy, immigration levels, assimilation, and current political debates on immigration law.Key TakeawaysWorksite Enforcement and E-VerifyGill emphasized worksite enforcement as a core component of immigration policy, arguing that job opportunities in the U.S. serve as a major pull factor for illegal immigration.He called for mandatory use of E-Verify, saying illegal employment undercuts wages for working-class Americans and creates incentives for illegal immigration and allows some industries to operate on what he described as “a lawless employment structure.”Immigration Policy and Cultural AssimilationGill argued that immigration policy should prioritize the interests of American citizens and preserve the country's distinct culture. He said the U.S. immigration system historically expected newcomers to avoid becoming a public charge and to assimilate culturally, noting that the country may need “several decades” to absorb and assimilate recent arrivals.Legal ImmigrationGill criticized the current family-based immigration system, which accounts for roughly 60 percent of legal admissions, and employment visa programs such as the H-1B program, arguing they are fraud-ridden and suppress wages.Welfare Use and Integration ConcernsGill highlighted welfare usage and English language statistics among Somalis in Minnesota, citing CIS research indicating that 78 percent of Somalis in Minnesota who have been in the U.S. for at least 10 years receive welfare benefits and that roughly half report limited English proficiency.Policy Debates in CongressGill also discussed the upcoming Supreme Court case addressing birthright citizenship and said the case could determine whether the president has authority to reinterpret existing policy or whether legislative or constitutional action would be required. He also credited the Trump administration with significantly improving border enforcement and called for codifying executive actions, including his proposed Remain in Mexico Act, reintroducing H.R. 2, and taking stronger actions against sanctuary jurisdictions, including defunding sanctuary jurisdictions and holding local officials legally liable for crimes committed by illegal immigrants released into communities.He also reminded listeners that immigration enforcement once enjoyed bipartisan support, but now moderate Democrats who supported enforcement are gone and mass migration has become a central political strategy for the Democratic Party making agreement difficult.HostMark Krikorian is the Executive Director at the Center for Immigration Studies.GuestU.S. Rep. Brandon Gill (TX)RelatedPress ReleasePanel VideoPanel TranscriptCIS Live StreamIntro MontageVoices in the opening montage:Sen. Barack Obama at a 2005 press conference.Sen. John McCain in a 2010 election ad.President Lyndon Johnson, upon signing the 1965 Immigration Act.Booker T. Washington, reading in 1908 from his 1895 Atlanta Exposition speech.Laraine Newman as a "Conehead" on SNL in 1977.Hillary Clinton in a 2003 radio interview.Cesar Chavez in a 1974 interview.House Speaker Nancy Pelosi speaking to reporters in 2019.Prof. George Borjas in a 2016 C-SPAN appearance.Sen. Jeff Sessions in 2008 comments on the Senate floor.Candidate Trump in 2015 campaign speech.Charlton Heston in "Planet of the Apes".

This week on Conservative Crossroads: Are President Trump's proposed H-1b visa reforms are a good idea? Taking sides on this issue are Mark Krikorian, a nationally recognized expert on immigration issues and the Executive Director of the Center for Immigration Studies and Neil Bradley, Executive Vice President, Chief Policy Officer, and Head of Strategic Advocacy […]

A partial government shutdown that began at midnight on February 14 has halted appropriated funding for the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), affecting FEMA, TSA, the Coast Guard, Customs and Border Protection (CBP), Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), and U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). A new podcast episode provides an assessment of where negotiations stand and what is at stake for immigration enforcement nationwide.Guest Grant Newman, Director of Government Relations for the Immigration Accountability Project, discusses the evolving Democratic demands that triggered the partial government shutdown. Initially vague, those demands have since focused on proposed restrictions on ICE operations, including requiring judicial warrants for civil immigration enforcement, prohibiting enforcement at or near certain locations (such as schools, hospitals, churches, courthouses, and more), banning officer face coverings, and mandating body camera requirements. Newman argues these measures would effectively halt interior enforcement without formally abolishing ICE.Few details are available about negotiations, with Congress out of session and the White House engaged in closed-door discussions directly with Democratic leadership. The episode examines whether the current strategy is strengthening enforcement opponents' leverage or creating political risk, particularly if a national emergency occurs during the shutdown.The discussion also explores potential Republican counter-demands (including a stop to sanctuary jurisdiction non-cooperation), internal party dynamics, the timing of the shutdown, and the sustainability of DHS operations if the shutdown persists too long.The program concludes with commentary from Mark Krikorian, who highlights recent reporting by Andrew Arthur detailing how nearly one million immigration court cases were administratively closed under the Biden administration — creating what he describes as a “legal dark hole” that shielded removable aliens from enforcement and functioned as a de facto amnesty.HostMark Krikorian is the Executive Director of the Center for Immigration StudiesGuestGrant Newman is Director of Government Relations for the Immigration Accountability ProjectRelatedImmigration Accountability ProjectIAP ActionThe DHS Shutdown: A Reckless Gamble Verging on MadnessDOJ Reveals that Biden Granted a Quiet Amnesty to Nearly One Million AliensIntro MontageVoices in the opening montage:Sen. Barack Obama at a 2005 press conference.Sen. John McCain in a 2010 election ad.President Lyndon Johnson, upon signing the 1965 Immigration Act.Booker T. Washington, reading in 1908 from his 1895 Atlanta Exposition speech.Laraine Newman as a "Conehead" on SNL in 1977.Hillary Clinton in a 2003 radio interview.Cesar Chavez in a 1974 interview.House Speaker Nancy Pelosi speaking to reporters in 2019.Prof. George Borjas in a 2016 C-SPAN appearance.Sen. Jeff Sessions in 2008 comments on the Senate floor.Candidate Trump in 2015 campaign speech.Charlton Heston in "Planet of the Apes".

A recent Capitol Hill policy briefing sponsored by the Center for Immigration Studies and the Ben Franklin Fellowship examined the long-term security implications of the Biden administration's Afghan evacuation program. Excerpts from the event are featured in this week's episode of Parsing Immigration Policy, titled “Stopping the Next Afghan Terrorist Attack: Mitigating the Vetting Failures, Fraud, and Corruption of the Biden-Era Evacuation Program.”Rep. Andy Biggs (R-AZ), a member of the House Judiciary Committee and co-chair of the Border Security Caucus, opened the discussion by warning that the Biden-era “Operation Allies Welcome” for Afghan nationals evolved into “an unmanageable and unsafe process.” He argued that safeguards became optional and that statutory vetting standards were weakened. “We're not abandoning allies,” Biggs said. “We're importing unvetted migrants. And the only promise we were breaking was our oath to keep American citizens safe and protect our borders and our people.” He emphasized that security vetting protects both Americans and the integrity of legitimate humanitarian programs.Andrew Veprek, Assistant Secretary of State for Population, Refugees, and Migration (PRM), detailed how the Afghan Special Immigrant Visa (SIV) program had expanded far beyond the original SIV statutory framework. He noted that while the traditional SIV category required 15 years of faithful service and chief-of-mission approval, the Afghan program extensively broadened eligibility and reduced verification standards, gutting statutory requirements. There are still roughly 120,000 principal applicants still in the SIV pipeline (not including family members, which could quintuple the total). President Trump has put a hold on these.James Rogers, a former Foreign Service officer and whistleblower, described systemic pressure for rapid visa processing and adjudication. He cited widespread document irregularities and estimated substantial fraud, potentially higher than 75%, within the applicant pool. Rogers called for structural whistleblower protections and reforms to separate investigative and defensive functions within the employee grievance process.Mark Krikorian, the Center's executive director and podcast host, concludes the podcast discussion by highlighting a recent development in Afghanistan that complicates U.S. policy even further: the Taliban's recent issuance of a new penal code that formally recognizes slavery. Krikorian argues that Afghan nationals seeking entry to the U.S. can now claim they are fleeing slavery, triggering asylum grants despite the impossibility of meaningful vetting. He advocates eliminating defensive asylum claims and instead transferring applicants to safe third countries willing to accept them.HostMark Krikorian is the Executive Director of the Center for Immigration StudiesGuestsRep. Andy Biggs (R-AZ) is a member of the House Judiciary Committee and co-chair of the Border Security CaucusAndrew Veprek is the Assistant Secretary of State for Population, Refugees, and Migration (PRM)James Rogers, is a former Foreign Service officer and whistleblowerRelatedThe Ben Franklin FellowshipIntro MontageVoices in the opening montage:Sen. Barack Obama at a 2005 press conference.Sen. John McCain in a 2010 election ad.President Lyndon Johnson, upon signing the 1965 Immigration Act.Booker T. Washington, reading in 1908 from his 1895 Atlanta Exposition speech.Laraine Newman as a "Conehead" on SNL in 1977.Hillary Clinton in a 2003 radio interview.Cesar Chavez in a 1974 interview.House Speaker Nancy Pelosi speaking to reporters in 2019.Prof. George Borjas in a 2016 C-SPAN appearance.Sen. Jeff Sessions in 2008 comments on the Senate floor.Candidate Trump in 2015 campaign speech.Charlton Heston in "Planet of the Apes".

Mark Krikorian is a nationally recognized expert on immigration issues serving as the Executive Director of Center for Immigration Studies. When it comes to our nation's borders, the last 12 months have been quite remarkable. The last administration repeatedly told us that Congress would have to act to reform our immigration policies and laws before the borders could be secured. That turned out to be a falsehood because under Trump 2.0, the U.S. borders are more secure than ever, and with that aspect of immigration taken care of, his administration has moved on to purge what they term, "The worst of the worst." In the meantime, as we've seen in Minnesota, there are those who don't like what's taking place. They're responding by causing extreme chaos, disruption, violence, vandalism, as well as assaults. So don't miss this program as Jim interviewed Mark to have him comment on the following points related to our nation's immigration and border security: In a major legal win, the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the Trump administration does, in fact, have the authority and requirement to detain all illegal entrants to the U.S., even if they're caught inside the country. Yesterday, the Ninth Circuit Court gave a win to the Trump administration regarding temporary protected status to nations like Nepal, Honduras and Nicaragua. According to the Department of Homeland Security, January numbers (of border encounters) ranked 93% below the historic average, the lowest number of encounters ever for the month of January. 9 straight months of zero releases. Record drug seizures.

Mark Krikorian is a nationally recognized expert on immigration issues serving as the Executive Director of Center for Immigration Studies. When it comes to our nation's borders, the last 12 months have been quite remarkable. The last administration repeatedly told us that Congress would have to act to reform our immigration policies and laws before the borders could be secured. That turned out to be a falsehood because under Trump 2.0, the U.S. borders are more secure than ever, and with that aspect of immigration taken care of, his administration has moved on to purge what they term, "The worst of the worst." In the meantime, as we've seen in Minnesota, there are those who don't like what's taking place. They're responding by causing extreme chaos, disruption, violence, vandalism, as well as assaults. So don't miss this program as Jim interviewed Mark to have him comment on the following points related to our nation's immigration and border security: In a major legal win, the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the Trump administration does, in fact, have the authority and requirement to detain all illegal entrants to the U.S., even if they're caught inside the country. Yesterday, the Ninth Circuit Court gave a win to the Trump administration regarding temporary protected status to nations like Nepal, Honduras and Nicaragua. According to the Department of Homeland Security, January numbers (of border encounters) ranked 93% below the historic average, the lowest number of encounters ever for the month of January. 9 straight months of zero releases. Record drug seizures.

The Center's latest podcast episode features Florida Governor Ron DeSantis discussing how Florida has become the gold standard on immigration enforcement.Gov. DeSantis explains why Florida has avoided the unrest seen in Los Angeles and Minneapolis, pointing to strong state laws and cooperation with federal authorities.Key highlights:Mandatory Cooperation with ICE: During a special legislative session following President Trump's election, Florida enacted a law requiring all state and local officials to cooperate with federal immigration enforcement. Officials who refuse can be suspended from office. Sanctuary policies are banned statewide.287(g) Agreements: All 67 Florida county sheriffs participate in 287(g) agreements, along with the majority of police agencies. Florida is the first state to require state agencies to enter such agreements, enabling full task-force, street-level cooperation with ICE.More than 20,000 apprehensions have resulted from state and local cooperation.State-Run Detention Capacity: Florida operates a state-owned detention and processing facility, nicknamed “Alligator Alcatraz,” to address federal detention shortages. An immigration judge adjudicates cases onsite, and DHS conducts removals directly from the facility's airstrip.A second “Deportation Depot” in northern Florida supports removals.DHS provides full federal reimbursement.Provides an update on legal challenges.Interior Enforcement Measures:Mandatory E-Verify for public employers and private employers with 25+ workers.No driver's licenses or local photo IDs (by government agencies or NGOs) for illegal immigrants.English-only commercial driver's license testing.State election crimes unit to prosecute illegal voting.Maritime Enforcement: Through Operation Vigilant Sentry, Florida interdicts migrants at sea and hands them over to the Coast Guard for return to their home countries.In his closing commentary, Mark Krikorian, executive director and podcast host, highlights a new Center report finding that 53% of immigrant-headed households, legal and illegal together, use at least one welfare program. He points out that most immigrants work, but because they have low levels of education, they earn low wages and thus rely on taxpayer-funded support. Reducing future dependence requires selecting legal immigrants based on skills and enforcing laws against illegal immigration.HostMark Krikorian is the Executive Director of the Center for Immigration StudiesGuestFlorida Governor Ron DeSantisRelatedWelfare Use by Immigrants and the U.S.-Born, 2024Intro MontageVoices in the opening montage:Sen. Barack Obama at a 2005 press conference.Sen. John McCain in a 2010 election ad.President Lyndon Johnson, upon signing the 1965 Immigration Act.Booker T. Washington, reading in 1908 from his 1895 Atlanta Exposition speech.Laraine Newman as a "Conehead" on SNL in 1977.Hillary Clinton in a 2003 radio interview.Cesar Chavez in a 1974 interview.House Speaker Nancy Pelosi speaking to reporters in 2019.Prof. George Borjas in a 2016 C-SPAN appearance.Sen. Jeff Sessions in 2008 comments on the Senate floor.Candidate Trump in 2015 campaign speech.Charlton Heston in "Planet of the Apes".

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A new episode of the Center for Immigration Studies podcast features Amanda Bartolotta, an investigative reporter for WorldNetDaily, for a detailed, evidence-based examination of abuses within the H-1B visa program and the powerful trade groups that profit from it.Drawing on firsthand experience in the tech sector, Bartolotta explains how certain IT staffing and outsourcing firms, often referred to as “body shops”, have built a business model around labor arbitrage, using temporary visa programs to displace U.S. workers while shifting jobs and intellectual capital overseas. The discussion focuses heavily on the ITServe Alliance, a trade organization representing hundreds of IT staffing firms that rely on H-1B, OPT, CPT, and related visa programs.Bartolotta explains how Bloomberg has documented exploitation of the H-1B lottery through multiple registrations for the same workers. She also outlines how ITServe openly promotes an integrated onshore-offshore labor pipeline, recruiting abroad while partnering with Indian state governments to expand offshore operations, all while lobbying U.S. policymakers as an “American job creator.”The episode also explores Bartolotta's personal experience working in tech, where she witnessed offshoring firsthand, raised civil rights concerns, and later became the subject of retaliation after filing complaints. Her reporting examines how visa dependency, restricted worker mobility, benching practices, and green card manipulation raise serious legal and ethical concerns.In the closing commentary, Mark Krikorian, the Center's executive director and podcast host, highlights how Virginia's new governor moved immediately to turn the state into a sanctuary jurisdiction, underscoring how quickly policy can be reversed when changes are not embedded in statute. He argues that this lesson applies at the federal level as well, and that the Trump administration must prioritize lasting legislative reforms if immigration policy is to endure beyond a single administration.HostMark Krikorian is the Executive Director of the Center for Immigration StudiesGuestAmanda Bartolotta is an investigative reporter for WorldNetDailyRelatedAmanda Bartolotta's Author PageForeign Influence and Lobbying Network HubAmericans Left Behind: IT Serve and the Big Business of Labor ArbitrageVisa Power, Political Influence and the Big Business of Labor ArbitrageIntro MontageVoices in the opening montage:Sen. Barack Obama at a 2005 press conference.Sen. John McCain in a 2010 election ad.President Lyndon Johnson, upon signing the 1965 Immigration Act.Booker T. Washington, reading in 1908 from his 1895 Atlanta Exposition speech.Laraine Newman as a "Conehead" on SNL in 1977.Hillary Clinton in a 2003 radio interview.Cesar Chavez in a 1974 interview.House Speaker Nancy Pelosi speaking to reporters in 2019.Prof. George Borjas in a 2016 C-SPAN appearance.Sen. Jeff Sessions in 2008 comments on the Senate floor.Candidate Trump in 2015 campaign speech.Charlton Heston in "Planet of the Apes".

A new episode of Parsing Immigration Policy examines the controversy surrounding foreign truck drivers and the issuance of non-domiciled commercial driver's licenses (CDLs). It also offers policy recommendations for the U.S. Department of Transportation and Congress to address safety and labor concerns in the trucking industry.The episode features Gord Magill, a third-generation truck driver and author of the forthcoming book End of the Road: Inside the War on Truckers (March release). Drawing on decades of firsthand experience, Magill challenges the claim, frequently promoted by industry lobbyists, that the United States faces a shortage of truck drivers. Instead, he argues the real problem is driver retention due to low wages and undesirable working conditions.Key issues include:The rapid increase in non-domiciled CDLs, originally intended to address interstate residency issues but now widely abused;How a “driver shortage” narrative has been used to suppress wages and justify expanded pipelines of cheap foreign labor;States issuing CDLs through training centers that fail to meet federal safety and English-language proficiency standards;The rise of “chameleon” companies that evade accountability by dissolving and re-forming under new LLCs after repeated safety violations;The use of overseas-based trucking firms in the hiring of U.S. truckers;Trump-era enforcement efforts aimed at restoring safety on America's highways.In the closing commentary, Mark Krikorian, executive director and podcast host, flags a Center blog post on a recent New York Times interview in which President Trump again expressed his support for continued high levels of legal immigration. Krikorian points out that this is not new and that the president is not a restrictionist, but rather a transitional figure, paving the way for the next generation of Republican leaders who do support lower levels of overall immigration.HostMark Krikorian is the Executive Director of the Center for Immigration StudiesGuestGord Magill is a third-generation trucker and authorRelatedGord Magill's Substack, “Autonomous Truck(er)s”“I'm an American Trucker. Illegal Migrants Are Flooding My Industry.”Book due out in March: End of the Road: Inside the War on TruckersTakeaways and Analysis from Trump's Interview with the New York TimesIntro MontageVoices in the opening montage:Sen. Barack Obama at a 2005 press conference.Sen. John McCain in a 2010 election ad.President Lyndon Johnson, upon signing the 1965 Immigration Act.Booker T. Washington, reading in 1908 from his 1895 Atlanta Exposition speech.Laraine Newman as a "Conehead" on SNL in 1977.Hillary Clinton in a 2003 radio interview.Cesar Chavez in a 1974 interview.House Speaker Nancy Pelosi speaking to reporters in 2019.Prof. George Borjas in a 2016 C-SPAN appearance.Sen. Jeff Sessions in 2008 comments on the Senate floor.Candidate Trump in 2015 campaign speech.Charlton Heston in "Planet of the Apes".

A new episode of the Center for Immigration Studies' podcast examines Venezuela, U.S. foreign policy, and the immigration consequences that follow intervention abroad. Jessica Vaughan, director of policy studies, and George Fishman, senior legal fellow, discuss whether recent U.S. actions in Venezuela could reshape migration flows, and whether legal tools such as the Alien Enemies Act still apply now that Nicolas Maduro is no longer in power.The discussion follows years of record Venezuelan migration during the Biden-era border crisis, driven by economic collapse, political repression, and the Maduro regime's ties to transnational criminal and terrorist organizations. Vaughan draws on her recent analysis detailing Venezuela's role in actively creating an environment for Tren de Aragua and Hezbollah to expand their size and reach – including into the United States.The episode explores whether renewed U.S. pressure on Venezuela's leadership could improve conditions and reduce migration, while also raising questions about the future of more than 600,000 Venezuelans currently protected under Temporary Protected Status (TPS). Fishman explains the statutory requirements of TPS, ongoing court challenges, and how changes in country conditions may affect future renewals, removals, and third-country deportations.Vaughan and Fishman also address asylum policy, including whether claims based on conditions tied to the former regime remain valid and the government's authority to revisit asylum grants if circumstances change.Finally, the episode assesses the continued relevance of the Alien Enemies Act, a wartime statute that gives the president broad authority to detain and remove citizens of an enemy state. While Maduro may be gone, Fishman explains that indictments linking senior Venezuelan officials to state-backed criminal organizations raise unresolved questions about whether hostile activity persists.Mark Krikorian, executive director and podcast host, points out that U.S. foreign policy decisions often carry lasting immigration consequences, for better or worse. History shows that intervention abroad can reshape immigration patterns; the U.S. has a history of involvement overseas resulting in new large immigrant communities at home.HostMark Krikorian is the Executive Director of the Center for Immigration StudiesGuestsJessica Vaughan is the Director of Policy at the Center for Immigration StudiesGeorge Fishman is the Senior Legal Fellow at the Center for Immigration StudiesRelatedRegime Change in Venezuela May Enhance U.S. SecurityCan We Have a Reckoning about Biden's Venezuelan Migrants Now?Intervention Leads to ImmigrationTrump Deploys the Alien Enemies Act Against Venezuela and Tren de AraguaCongressional Testimony: The Impacts of Temporary Protected StatusFederal Court Rejects DHS's Decision to Revoke TPS for VenezuelansIntro MontageVoices in the opening montage:Sen. Barack Obama at a 2005 press conference.Sen. John McCain in a 2010 election ad.President Lyndon Johnson, upon signing the 1965 Immigration Act.Booker T. Washington, reading in 1908 from his 1895 Atlanta Exposition speech.Laraine Newman as a "Conehead" on SNL in 1977.Hillary Clinton in a 2003 radio interview.Cesar Chavez in a 1974 interview.House Speaker Nancy Pelosi speaking to reporters in 2019.Prof. George Borjas in a 2016 C-SPAN appearance.Sen. Jeff Sessions in 2008 comments on the Senate floor.Candidate Trump in 2015 campaign speech.Charlton Heston in "Planet of the Apes".

We cover immigration today with Mark Krikorian's excellent short book review in Claremont Review of Books, Spring 2025 on page 16 of the physical print edition you get in the mail four times a year when you subscribe for a nominal charge. We do a fair use and do a transformative reading of this material. We'd like to thank Claremont Review of Books for making this material available. We'd like to thank Mark Krikorian for writing it. As of the day of recording, the piece was available to the public on the website. Just go to the website and search "Mi Casa" and follow along. But it's best to subscribe so you get the hard copies in the mail. I highly recommend that you support CRB. Subscribe today at https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/ You won't regret it. The Republican Professor is a pro-self-government podcast. The Republican Professor is produced and hosted by Dr. Lucas J. Mather, Ph.D.

WMAL GUEST: MARK KRIKORIAN (Executive Director of Center for Immigration Studies) on Somali Community in Minnesota WEBSITE: CIS.org SOCIAL MEDIA: X.com/MarkSKrikorian Where to find more about WMAL's morning show: Follow Podcasts on Apple Podcasts, Audible, and Omny Follow WMAL's "O'Connor and Company" on X: @WMALDC, @LarryOConnor, @JGunlock, @PatricePinkfile, and @HeatherHunterDC Facebook: WMALDC and Larry O'Connor Instagram: WMALDC Website: WMAL.com/OConnor-Company Episode: Thursday, December 11, 2025 / 6 AM HourSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In the 6 AM hour, Larry O’Connor and Cassie Smedile discussed: WMAL GUEST: MARK KRIKORIAN (Executive Director of Center for Immigration Studies) on Somali Welfare and Integration Issues SOCIAL SCREENING: Trump Admin Requires Media History for Visa Waiver Travelers NYC GUIDE: Mayor-Elect Video Teaches Resisting ICE Encounters Where to find more about WMAL's morning show: Follow Podcasts on Apple Podcasts, Audible, and Omny Follow WMAL's "O'Connor and Company" on X: @WMALDC, @LarryOConnor, @JGunlock, @PatricePinkfile, and @HeatherHunterDC Facebook: WMALDC and Larry O'Connor Instagram: WMALDC Website: WMAL.com/OConnor-Company Episode: Thursday, December 11, 2025 / 6 AM HourSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The coaches are joined by former FSU National Championship coach Mark Krikorian to preview final four weekend in women's college soccer and they also discuss other items floating around the women's soccer universe. Give a listen, tell a friend.

Today on the Annie Frey Show; Do you support President Trump's immigration plan? Ryan Schmelz, Fox News Radio Capitol Hill and White House Correspondent joins Annie to talk about Affordable Care Act, Marjorie Taylor Greene stepping down and more. Mark Krikorian, Executive Director of Center for Immigration studies joins Annie to talk about the problem the country is having with the lack of policing and more. Annie and Tricia talk motherhood and holidays. Black Friday and Thanksgiving shopping.

Annie, Brad and Ethan begin the hour talking about black Friday shopping, Mark Krikorian, Executive Director of Center for Immigration studies joins Annie to talk about the problem the country is having with the lack of policing and more. FInally, in Ethan's America the price of Thanksgiving.

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WMAL GUEST: MARK KRIKORIAN (Executive Director, Center for Immigration Studies) WEBSITE: CIS.org SOCIAL MEDIA: X.com/MarkSKrikorian Where to find more about WMAL's morning show: Follow Podcasts on Apple, Audible and Spotify Follow WMAL's "O'Connor and Company" on X: @WMALDC, @LarryOConnor, @JGunlock, @PatricePinkfile, and @HeatherHunterDC Facebook: WMALDC and Larry O'Connor Instagram: WMALDC Website: WMAL.com/OConnor-Company Episode: Friday, November 14, 2025 / 6 AM HourSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In the 6 AM hour, Patrice Onwuka & Andrew Langer discussed: NY POST: Florida Military Families Told to Take Down Early Christmas Decorations to Comply With Base Standards: ‘Wild They Have It in Writing’ WMAL GUEST: MARK KRIKORIAN (Executive Director, Center for Immigration Studies) CBS NEWS: Starbucks Workers Launch Strike, Demanding Labor Contract Where to find more about WMAL's morning show: Follow Podcasts on Apple, Audible and Spotify Follow WMAL's "O'Connor and Company" on X: @WMALDC, @LarryOConnor, @JGunlock, @PatricePinkfile, and @HeatherHunterDC Facebook: WMALDC and Larry O'Connor Instagram: WMALDC Website: WMAL.com/OConnor-Company Episode: Friday, November 14, 2025 / 6 AM HourSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week's Parsing Immigration Policy podcast features a panel discussion from the third annual conference of the International Network for Immigration Research (INIR), convened recently in Washington. Mark Krikorian, Executive Director of the Center for Immigration Studies, and Yonatan Jakubowicz, Director of the Israeli Immigration Policy Center, offer contrasting perspectives on how to fix the […]

The Trump administration has done various things to protect our safety, one of which includes meaningful border control policies. Such policies are helping to stop the free-flow of illegal drugs in the U.S. and keep illegal immigrants from committing very egregious crimes. Returning to Crosstalk with an update on this subject was Mark Krikorian. Mark is a nationally recognized expert on immigration issues serving as the executive director of Center for Immigration Studies. They are an independent, non-partisan research organization examining and critiquing the impact of immigration on the United States. He has testified numerous times before Congress and has published articles in many outlets. We're 10 months into the Trump administration and according to Mark, by the end of the year we could see as many as 800,000 deportations. In addition, we are at the lowest levels of encounters at the border since the 1960's, and while some individuals may be released on bond by an immigration judge, no one is being released into the country at the border. That's the good news. However, there are still issues to be noted and watched. For example, Mark also reported on the following: What is the current status of the border wall? What's the latest concerning the drug cartel tunnels? California's admittance of issuing 17,000 CDL licenses to foreign nationals. Why are some cities fighting the use of federal help to protect such areas? What about the children that went missing under the Biden administration? How have illegal aliens affected our healthcare and the SNAP program? Should we get out of the U.N. refugee treaty?

Viewpoint This Sunday with Malcolm Out Loud – Trump urges GOP to ‘end the shutdown' by going nuclear on Senate filibuster. Prof. Pedro Blas González and Constitutional Scholar Paul Engel discuss the implications - Is now the time to pull the filibuster lever? HHS lost over 112,000 of these children - meaning there is no accountability for almost half of the kids… Mark Krikorian, sued under..

On today's program: Casey Harper, Managing Editor for Broadcast at The Washington Stand and Host of the "Outstanding" podcast, highlights the impact of the shutdown on air travel, the SNAP food aid program, and the latest nation to join the Abraham

0:30 - Karoline Leavitt's White House History Lesson 15:54 - CA truck driver who killed 3 35:42 - Pritzker EO creating IL Accountability Commission 01:00:29 - Kash Patel on gambling ring arrests 01:20:07 - Retired FBI special agent and legal attaché, Thomas Baker, walks us through the NBA and Mafia gambling bust. Thomas is also the author of The Fall of the FBI: How a Once Great Agency Became a Threat to Democracy 01:39:40 - Executive Director at the Center for Immigration Studies, Mark Krikorian, offers his analysis of Chicago's immigration enforcement crisis For more on the Center for Immigration Studies cis.org 01:57:34 - Christian Toto, host of “The Hollywood in Toto Podcast", reveals his choice for Star with Worst Trump Derangement Syndrome. For podcast updates & more hollywoodintoto.com 02:12:13 - Open Mic FridaySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Guests: Mark Krikorian, Christina J. Lambert, & John T. Seiffertt Host Scot Bertram talks with Mark Krikorian, executive director at the Center for Immigration Studies, about a recent essay on how America makes assimilation more difficult for immigrants. Christina Lambert, assistant professor of English at Hillsdale College, begins a series on the life and work of poet […]

President Trump is ordering a new census that will not include illegal aliens. What does this mean for the future of the country? Jesse Kelly chats with Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies. Jesse also speaks with journalist and activist Tommy Robinson, who continues to battle with British authorities over immigration rhetoric. Plus, Alex Marlow unveils shocking revelations about the Biden White House's role in the 2024 election lawfare against Donald Trump. I'm Right with Jesse Kelly on The First TV | 8-7-25 Pure Talk: Go to https://www.puretalk.com/JESSETV to make the switch Choq: Visit https://choq.com/jessetv for a 17.76% discount on your CHOQ subscription for life The Fresh Pressed Olive Oil Club: Go to https://FarmFresh246.com & get your first $39 bottle free with no obligation or commitment.Follow The Jesse Kelly Show on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheJesseKellyShowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.