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On today's Highways Voices you'll learn about solar-powered surveillance, AI-driven traffic modelling, ghost plate detection and lots of other technologies helping transform our highways.We're on the UK Pavilion at the ITS European Congress in Seville talking about innovations being showcased by a range of UK SMEs that are tackling the daily challenges we face.Subscribe to Highways Voices free on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Google Podcasts or Pocket Casts and never miss an episode!Whether it's avoiding gridlock from mismanaged roadworks or combatting the rise in fraudulent number plates, these technologies are not just promising—they're in action.Host Paul Hutton tours the Pavilion to talk to Immense, Now Wireless, AECOM, ITS UK, AGD Systems/MAV, Nicander, Agilysis, AIM, WJ, VESOS and The ITS World Congress 2027.You'll hear how AI-powered simulation tools are helping authorities prevent traffic jams before they happens, learn how new structural monitoring and drone-assisted asset management systems are saving millions and preventing closures and, of course, hear how global ITS partnerships are positioning the UK as a leader ahead of the 2027 World Congress in Birmingham—and what that means for your future projects.Hit play now to hear firsthand how tomorrow's highway solutions are already driving results across the UK and beyond.Highways Voices is brought to you with our partners the Transport Technology Forum, LCRIG, ADEPT and ITS UK.

Welcome back to the Jeep Talk Show! In this exciting Round Table episode, host Tony returns from a well-deserved break to dive into all things Jeep with our passionate community. We're talking about the upcoming Jeep Talk Show Hot Springs Event in Hot Springs, Arkansas, happening June 6-7, 2025!

Studium biblijne (sezon 57) z 10 maja 2025 r., pt. „Zrozumienie złożonej ofiary”. Jest to komentarz do kwartalnika „Lekcje Biblijne 2/2025: Aluzje, obrazy, symbole – Jak studiować biblijne proroctwa?”. Tytuł oryginału: „Adult Sabbath School Bible Study Guide 2/2025: How to Study Bible Prophecy” autorstwa Shawna Boonstry. ▶️ STUDIUM BIEŻĄCEGO ODCINKA: Iz 1,2-15; Hbr 10,3-10; Wj 12,1-11; 1 Kor 5,7; Ag 2,7-9; Iz 6,1 5; Ap 4,7-11. ▶️ TEKST PRZEWODNI: „I zaśpiewali nową pieśń tej treści: Godzien jesteś wziąć księgę i zdjąć jej pieczęcie, ponieważ zostałeś zabity i odkupiłeś dla Boga krwią swoją ludzi z każdego plemienia i języka, i ludu, i narodu” (Ap 5,9). ▶️ W STUDIUM BIORĄ UDZIAŁ: Radosław Bojko (prowadzący), Marek Micyk, Jakub Wojtkowski. Zarejestrowano staraniem Kościoła Adwentystów Dnia Siódmego w RP, zbór w Podkowie Leśnej, 25 marca 2024 r. w Wyższej Szkole Teologiczno-Humanistycznej (WSTH) im. Michała Beliny-Czechowskiego w Podkowie Leśnej, w koprodukcji z WSTH oraz Hope Media Polska. Copyright © 2025 www.nadzieja.tv. Creative Commons Attribution, BY-NC-ND 4.0 PL, https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/legalcode.pl.

W&J head football coach Mike Sirianni joined the show. Mike told us what it felt like to watch his little brother win a Super Bowl and everything else he has already accomplished as the Eagles head coach. Mike talked about the journey that Nick Sirianni has taken to get to the NFL, which all started with former Steelers coach Todd Haley. Mike talked about the experiences both he and his little brother shared at Mount Union that helped them both prepare for their futures. Mike mentioned a time or two when he had other stuff going on and wasn't able to focus too closely on the Eagles game, which led to him pacing around in angst. Mike compared some of his coaching experiences to what Nick has had to deal with. At what point last night did the Sirianni family feel comfortable? The guys asked Mike about what the full experience was like this week, including his daughter getting to meet Zac Efron. Mike gave his biggest takeaways going into the game and how those evolved as the game was going on.

Kenny Pickett is now a Super Bowl champion. The discourse on social media last night was just joyous on both sides of that argument. There were other Pitt football alumni to win with the Eagles last night, but it seemed like only Pickett was the conversation. How do fans feel about Kenny Pickett winning a Super Bowl? W&J head football coach Mike Sirianni joined the show. Mike told us what it felt like to watch his little brother win a Super Bowl and everything else he has already accomplished as the Eagles head coach. Mike talked about the journey that Nick Sirianni has taken to get to the NFL, which all started with former Steelers coach Todd Haley. Mike talked about the experiences both he and his little brother shared at Mount Union that helped them both prepare for their futures. Mike mentioned a time or two when he had other stuff going on and wasn't able to focus too closely on the Eagles game, which led to him pacing around in angst. Mike compared some of his coaching experiences to what Nick has had to deal with. At what point last night did the Sirianni family feel comfortable? The guys asked Mike about what the full experience was like this week, including his daughter getting to meet Zac Efron. Mike gave his biggest takeaways going into the game and how those evolved as the game was going on.

Studium biblijne (sezon 56) z 8 lutego 2025 r., pt. „Bóg miłuje sprawiedliwość”. Jest to komentarz do kwartalnika „Lekcje Biblijne 1/2025: Boża miłość i sprawiedliwość”. Tytuł oryginału: „Adult Sabbath School Bible Study Guide 1/2025: God's Love and Justice” autorstwa Johna C. Peckhama. ▶️ STUDIUM BIEŻĄCEGO ODCINKA: Ps 33,5; 85,11; Pwt 32,4; Jk 1,17; Tt 1,2; Wj 32,14; Mt 5,43-48. ▶️ TEKST PRZEWODNI: „Lecz kto chce się chlubić, niech się chlubi tym, że jest rozumny i wie o mnie, iż Ja, Pan, czynię miłosierdzie, prawo i sprawiedliwość na ziemi, gdyż w nich mam upodobanie — mówi Pan” (Jr 9,23). ▶️ W STUDIUM BIORĄ UDZIAŁ: Konrad Pasikowski (prowadzący), Marcin Knapik, Marek Micyk. Zarejestrowano staraniem Kościoła Adwentystów Dnia Siódmego w RP, zbór w Podkowie Leśnej, 3 grudnia 2024 r. w Wyższej Szkole Teologiczno-Humanistycznej (WSTH) im. Michała Beliny-Czechowskiego w Podkowie Leśnej, w koprodukcji z WSTH oraz Ośrodkiem Radiowo-Telewizyjnym „Głos Nadziei”. Copyright © 2025 www.nadzieja.tv. Creative Commons Attribution, BY-NC-ND 4.0 PL, https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/legalcode.pl.

五輪、W杯最終予選、Jリーグの激戦と、2024年も色々あったサッカー界。朝日新聞スポーツ部のサッカー担当記者たちに、昨シーズンの重大ニュースは何か考えてもらいました。国内外から集まった様々な話題を、担当記者ら4人で振り返ります。 ※2024年12月23日に収録しました。 【関連記事】日本、次戦でW杯出場決定も　アジア最終予選、中国に3-1で勝利 https://www.asahi.com/articles/ASSCM3S5ZSCMUTQP02KM.html?iref=omny 少子高齢化の中で造るサッカースタジアム　未来の都市で生き残るには https://www.asahi.com/articles/ASS6N0Q54S6NUTQP01HM.html?iref=omny 「J1史上初」目指した町田ゼルビアがホームタウンにもたらしたもの https://www.asahi.com/articles/ASSDH43L4SDHOXIE00XM.html?iref=omny 連載「Side Change」 https://www.asahi.com/rensai/list.html?id=249 【出演・スタッフ】潮智史（スポーツ部）　https://twitter.com/ushios1 藤木健　https://x.com/fujikit621 照屋健　https://x.com/Teruya1206 MC・音源編集　飯島啓史 【朝ポキ情報】ご感想はおたよりフォーム → https://bit.ly/asapoki_otayori 番組カレンダー→ https://bit.ly/asapki_calendar 出演者名検索ツール→ https://bit.ly/asapoki_cast 最新情報はX(旧ツイッター) → https://bit.ly/asapoki_twitter 交流はコミュニティ → https://bit.ly/asapoki_community テロップ付きはYouTube → https://bit.ly/asapoki_youtube_ こぼれ話はメルマガ → https://bit.ly/asapoki_newsletter 全話あります公式サイト → https://bit.ly/asapoki_lp 広告ご検討の企業様は → http://t.asahi.com/asapokiguideメールはこちら → podcast@asahi.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

先日、宇都宮で行われた第30回全日本自転車競技選手権シクロクロスでの野良配信した模様をPodcastにて今年も配信します。 各カテゴリーの熱戦を耳で感じてください。 MU15.17&WU15.17 : 0:00～ MJ & WJ : 42:20～ MU23 : 1:34:20～ Women Elite : 2:32:15～ Men Elite : 3:31:24～ 番組公式Twitterあります。情報などはフォローしてチェックしてください→⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/radio_rueda⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 番組のご意見ご感想はTwitter & instagramにてハッシュタグ( #radiorueda )またはメールアドレスradiorueda.758@gmail.com まで忖度のないお言葉を頂ければ幸いです。 番組公式Patreon始めました。 番組は無料で聞いていただけますが、もし応援していただけるのであれば月額1ドル・3ドル・5ドル・10ドルと4つのコースをご用意しております。 パトロン限定コンテンツ音源や記事などを公開しておりますので一度ご覧いただき、投げ銭のお気持ちでご支援頂ければ幸いです。 リンクはこちらからでも！⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/radio_rueda

The west coast roadie is wrapped up, a decent end to it. Then another trade, a finality to the Corbin Vaughan situation. Hear from Millar about that and the Maze trade. We look ahead to this coming weekend and then we hear from ex-Pat Borya Valis (2:10) Corbin Vaughan trade (5:19) Al Millar on recent trades (12:00) Huet going to WJ's and corresponding Pats roster move (16:27) Memorial Cup announcement thoughts (18:40) Recap the four games (31:00) Upcoming weekend (33:03) Borya Valis interview (40:35) Wrap up & a small rant Like, share & subscribe to the show! Follow us on X @whlpatscast, @theblueliner & @theclarksy Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!): https://uppbeat.io/t/oakvale-of-albion/extreme License code: DSRPUDJVNHBOWIN1 https://uppbeat.io/t/abbynoise/night-thunder License code: 1UXX5QD4JMQQVMPQ

Tom Martino discusses stepping into the NHRA Factory X engine wars. Hosts Keith Jones and Joe Castello pepper Tom with questions about his motivation and ideas for the very challenging NHRA class. We can't have Tom on the show without a story about WJ and Tom's days running Pro Stock.

we host Part 1 of our Dating & Friendships Roundtable Discussion.   Our guests include: Reena Watts (Better Call Daddy Podcast) Oreo Brewer & Max Sycamore (Bitches with Beard Podcast)       Find out what it takes to see what is a true friendship versus what is a toxic one; why dating is needlessly complex; and why we need to stop making up excuses and choose our peers wisely!     VIDEOS CITED IN DISCUSSION:  https://www.youtube.com/live/pACX5RAjHY4?si=JHVH2uQvgEy9_RMf  https://www.youtube.com/live/aYMdhd90vKI?si=qzFLZUVL4T-KDJ0X  https://youtu.be/VW7th10FlnI?si=ay5Ou_7TW55kq7Xv  https://youtu.be/MNMfGfySV9g?si=VbD1lEMCLCQ-ESge  https://youtu.be/YGMKOMZZLxo?si=o76KbhC2gAowUzSk  https://youtu.be/d-5bQj0F9MY?si=UbOcppP0XDyfEpYz  https://youtu.be/LpxdJHFCmj4?si=xkWftDp58xoPQa-f  https://youtu.be/w7OOMMk3TUI?si=FzmXdAJvqq7j_Zw-  https://youtu.be/O2CANunIBYc?si=WJ-fxkt4oei-h14U  https://youtu.be/MrmZnZ59hpo?si=D-5qsBrFN28i4zCa        MAIN LINKS:  LinkTree: https://linktr.ee/JURSPodcast Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/JackedUpReviewShow/ Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2452329545040913 Twitter: https://twitter.com/JackedUpReview  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jacked_up_podcast/  Blind Knowledge Podcast Network: https://www.blindknowledge.com/       SHOW LINKS: YouTube: https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCIyMawFPgvOpOUhKcQo4eQQ   iHeartRadio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-jacked-up-review-show-59422651/   Podbean: https://jackedupreviewshow.podbean.com   Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Eg8w0DNympD6SQXSj1X3M   Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jacked-up-review-show-podcast/id1494236218   RadioPublic: https://radiopublic.com/the-jacked-up-review-show-We4VjE   Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1494236218/the-jacked-up-review-show-podcast   Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9hbmNob3IuZm0vcy9hNDYyOTdjL3BvZGNhc3QvcnNz   Anchor:  https://anchor.fm/s/a46297c/podcast/rss   PocketCasts: https://pca.st/0ncd5qp4   CastBox:  https://castbox.fm/channel/The-Jacked-Up-Review-Show-Podcast-id2591222   Discord:  https://discord.com/channels/796154005914779678/796154006358851586         #MovieReview #FilmTwitter #PodFamily #PodcastersOfInstagram #Movies #Film #Cinema #Music #Reviews #Retrospect #Podcasts #MutantFam #MutantFamily #actionmystery #bmovies #scifihorror #truecrime #historydramas #warmovies #podcastcollabs #hottakes #edgy #cultmovies #nsfw #HorrorFam #badass         

Kris and David are guestless as we discuss the week that was July 10-16, 2003. Topics of discussion includes:TNA settling their lawsuits with Jay Hassman and Len Sabal and all that entailed.A.J. Styles publicly expressing his preference of working ROH over NWA-TNA while being the NWA World Heavyweight Champion.Scott D'Amore gaining power behind the scenes.Lots of Japanese news and results including WORLD JAPAN.A wild show in Tijuana featuring lots of masked dudes getting their heads shaved.IWA Puerto Rico doing some big business while WWC does terrible business but beats the IWA in TV ratings.The final Shane Shamrock Cup before MCW's hiatus highlights a very 2003 U.S. indie section.John Cena and Kurt Angle having a battle rap on SmackDown.Kane setting Jim Ross on fire on Raw.Tons more from a loaded WWE section.Very entertaining show this week so check it out!!!Timestamps:0:00:00 NWA-TNA1:07:40 Japan: AJPW, NJPW, NOAH, WJ, Zero-One, BJPW, Michinoku Pro, Osaka Pro, Toryumon, GAEA, Jd', JWP, LLPW, & NEO Ladies1:54:34 Other North America: Stampede, CMLL, IWRG, Monterrey, Tijuana, IWAPR, & WWC2:28:39 Classic Commercial Break2:33:13 Halftime3:11:32 Other USA: CSWF, ROH, PTW, WXW (PA), M(aryland)CW, NWA Wildside, GlobalCW, CAPW, IWAMS, Memphis, MCW/NWA Midwest, & UPW3:46:13 WWETo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you're looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you've been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you'll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you're looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

Kris and David are guestless as we discuss the week that was July 10-16, 2003. Topics of discussion includes:TNA settling their lawsuits with Jay Hassman and Len Sabal and all that entailed.A.J. Styles publicly expressing his preference of working ROH over NWA-TNA while being the NWA World Heavyweight Champion.Scott D'Amore gaining power behind the scenes.Lots of Japanese news and results including WORLD JAPAN.A wild show in Tijuana featuring lots of masked dudes getting their heads shaved.IWA Puerto Rico doing some big business while WWC does terrible business but beats the IWA in TV ratings.The final Shane Shamrock Cup before MCW's hiatus highlights a very 2003 U.S. indie section.John Cena and Kurt Angle having a battle rap on SmackDown.Kane setting Jim Ross on fire on Raw.Tons more from a loaded WWE section.Very entertaining show this week so check it out!!!Timestamps:0:00:00 NWA-TNA1:07:40 Japan: AJPW, NJPW, NOAH, WJ, Zero-One, BJPW, Michinoku Pro, Osaka Pro, Toryumon, GAEA, Jd', JWP, LLPW, & NEO Ladies1:54:34 Other North America: Stampede, CMLL, IWRG, Monterrey, Tijuana, IWAPR, & WWC2:28:39 Classic Commercial Break2:33:13 Halftime3:11:32 Other USA: CSWF, ROH, PTW, WXW (PA), M(aryland)CW, NWA Wildside, GlobalCW, CAPW, IWAMS, Memphis, MCW/NWA Midwest, & UPW3:46:13 WWETo support the show and get access to exclusive rewards like special members-only monthly themed shows, go to our Patreon page at Patreon.com/BetweenTheSheets and become an ongoing Patron. Becoming a Between the Sheets Patron will also get you exclusive access to not only the monthly themed episode of Between the Sheets, but also access to our new mailbag segment, a Patron-only chat room on Slack, and anything else we do outside of the main shows!If you're looking for the best deal on a VPN service—short for Virtual Private Network, it helps you get around regional restrictions as well as browse the internet more securely—then Private Internet Access is what you've been looking for. Not only will using our link help support Between The Sheets, but you'll get a special discount, with prices as low as $1.98/month if you go with a 40 month subscription. With numerous great features and even a TV-specific Android app to make streaming easier, there is no better choice if you're looking to subscribe to WWE Network, AEW Plus, and other region-locked services.For the best in both current and classic indie wrestling streaming, make sure to check out IndependentWrestling.tv and use coupon code BTSPOD for a free 5 day trial! (You can also go directly to TinyURL.com/IWTVsheets to sign up that way.) If you convert to a paid subscriber, we get a kickback for referring you, allowing you to support both the show and the indie scene.To subscribe, you can find us on iTunes, Google Play, and just about every other podcast app's directory, or you can also paste Feeds.FeedBurner.com/BTSheets into your favorite podcast app using whatever “add feed manually” option it has.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/between-the-sheets/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

Things Discussed: Craig tells a story about spelling pronunciation, like how people pronounce the 't' in often for the first time since it disappeared in the 15th century. Nobody likes Chip Kelly you say? This isn't news. He's not there to bring the love; he's there to give them a running game because Michigan's been playing then six on eight on the box. Meta Game evolution: Kelly is there to give them a QB run game. Wink is going to blitz more because he has different talent now. Brown's problem was not enough difference-makers at DT; Wink has WJ, Graham and Grant and doesn't have Sainristil/Moore to call opponents' plays for them.  OSU going run QB? They have time to develop Sayin, can afford to go slowly because they have a 2-game cushion with their easier schedule. Portal recruiting: Seth wants Sam to stop giving us names—just do every recruitment like Rubin Jones. Lost a CB who got shredded in Texas's defense to Illinois, lost a DT to LSU, what's up Sam? Answer is they're probably getting two of their targets at safety so they can leave Zeke Berry at Nickel and Ja'den McBurrows can give them corner depth. Problem is Michigan isn't recruiting starters. Corner depth? Time is now for Jyaire. Want a guy from the portal. Sam thinks they have a dude in JoJo Edmonds coming in. Why is Michigan not offering the same NIL as LSU/OSU/USC? Donors haven't been conditioned for this. They were all just at Chad Tough, which it's hard to argue that's not a better use of your dollars than a second-string cornerback. After the break: Softball. Congrats on B10 championship. Next year looks great, with only Keke Tholl departing and bringing in JJ Putz's daughter. Got a lucky draw in B10 tourney, got a horrible draw in NCAAs.

In this episode WJ flies solo and delivers a powerful Bigfoot encounter from Vancouver British Columbia. Thank you for listening!www.bigfootterrorinthewoods.comProduced by: "Bigfoot Terror in the Woods L.L.C."

In this episode WJ flies solo and delivers three powerful accounts of Bigfoot encounters.Thank you for listening!www.bigfootterrorinthewoods.comProduced by: "Bigfoot Terror in the Woods L.L.C."

Dr. Rosenbum discusses Interventional Psychiatry, the role of Stellate Ganglion Blocks in PTSD, Ketamine Infusions for Depression, and the role of Magnesium as a co-factor in ketamine infusions.  Other Announcements from NRAP Academy: PainExam App almost ready  Pain Management Board Prep migrated to NRAPpain.org AnesthesiaExam Board Prep migrated to NRAPpain.org PMRExam Board Prep migrated to NRAPpain.org   Live Workshop Calendar   Ultrasound Interventional Pain Course Registration      For Anesthesia Board Prep Click Here! References https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/endocrinology/articles/10.3389/fendo.2023.1293358/full   References   Górska N, Cubała WJ, Słupski J, Wiglusz MS, Gałuszko-Węgielnik M, Kawka M, Grzegorzewska A. Magnesium in Ketamine Administration in Treatment-Resistant Depression. Pharmaceuticals (Basel). 2021 May 3;14(5):430. doi: 10.3390/ph14050430. PMID: 34063604; PMCID: PMC8147622.   https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychiatry/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2021.513068/full   https://www.sutterhealth.org/services/behavioral-health/interventional-psychiatry   Hanling SR, Hickey A, Lesnik I, et al Stellate Ganglion Block for the Treatment of Posttraumatic Stress Disorder: A Randomized, Double-Blind, Controlled Trial Regional Anesthesia & Pain Medicine 2016;41:494-500.   https://www.psychiatrist.com/jcp/oral-ketamine-for-depression/  

[00:00:03] Trina Fullard: I never intended to go to college to play basketball. It was not a plan for me. Academics was my focus. The day that the coach from college came to watch me play, I didn't even know she was there because he never told me until the game was over. And he said, I want you to meet someone, and that's when he introduced me to Vicki Staten, who was my college coach. And I just asked him, I said, why didn't you tell me that somebody was going to be here watching me play, he said, because I didn't want you to be worried about what's around the corner, I wanted you to stay in the moment. -- [00:00:41] Tommy Thomas: Our guests tonight are Trina and Kevin Fullard. Kevin took his B.A. in Psychology from Washington Jefferson College. He took his Master's of Science in Rehabilitation Counseling from West Virginia University. [00:00:56] Tommy Thomas: He's the founder and principal at Unique Consulting and Professional Services, and we'll get him to tell us a little bit about that as we get in. Trina also took her B.A. in psychology from Washington and Jefferson. She took her Master's of Arts in Rehabilitation Counseling from the University of Maryland. [00:01:14] Tommy Thomas: Trina is the CEO, and President-elect at Charlotte Rescue Mission, but on June the 1st, they're going to remove the elect piece of that title, and she will become the President and CEO of Charlotte Rescue Mission. In full disclosure, I must say that I met Trina, our firm, JobFitMatters Executive Search, did the CEO search there. [00:01:39] Tommy Thomas: And as a part of our process we like to interview as many board members and staff members as we can to learn about the organization. And Trina was in my group of people to interview. As we got into the conversation, I just felt like I was talking to somebody that I had known forever and I just could see leadership written all over this lady. [00:02:00] Tommy Thomas: During the conversation, she shared a little bit about her basketball career and that her husband also played football. And I thought, now this would be a good podcast to get the two of y'all on together. So Trina and Kevin, welcome to NextGen Nonprofit Leadership. [00:02:16] Trina Fullard: Thank you. Thank you, Tommy. [00:02:19] Tommy Thomas: We've had a little sub-theme going here about the coaches in my life. We're going to talk a little bit about life and leadership lessons that people who've done well and intercollegiate athletics have learned from the coaches in their life. And this could go back to the coaches in grammar school on through college. [00:02:36] Tommy Thomas: If you haven't heard one of these kind of conversations before, that's our format. Before I dive too deep into that, maybe each of you tell me a little bit about your childhood and somewhere along the way, tell me how you met each other. [00:02:55] Trina Fullard: Okay. I'll start. I grew up in a small town in Pennsylvania in the suburbs of Pittsburgh and, essentially learned as a young child how to be a strong independent young woman. I'm the oldest of two siblings. I have a younger sister who I grew up in the home with, and so I was always a caretaker and looking out for her. [00:03:17] Trina Fullard: I had a really strong will to be the best at everything wanted to be. A straight-A student, wanted to excel in whatever I was doing and continued that along the way, all the way up through high school, and then my first experience, probably where I had a coach was probably cheerleading in Little League Mighty Might says, you would mighty might football players needed the little cheerleaders. Being a mighty mite cheerleader was my first experience at being part of a team and having to work with other folks for us to be good at something. [00:03:46] Trina Fullard: To root them on, but that was my first experience at being a part of a team and having to work with other folks for us to be good at something. So I'll let Kev talk a little bit about his childhood before we talk about how we met. [00:04:03] Kevin Fullard: I also grew up in a suburb of Pittsburgh, but I was closer to the inner city. [00:04:10] Kevin Fullard: Okay. So my experience was a little different. Because with the inner city of Pittsburgh, education originally wasn't the main focus. We had a lot of focus on sports because I knew there was a bigger place outside of that area. And just trying to figure out the path to be able to excel, to get out. So education became a piece of the puzzle as well as the athletics to be able to move forward and really just try to do better in life and be able to use that to go back and help the people that show them this is a pattern and a path to be able to exceed. Education and athletics showed me that there was a bigger place outside of the inner city and I could go there. [00:05:06] Tommy Thomas: Wow. And how did y'all get together? [00:05:09] Trina Fullard: We like to tell the story that there was a bet that I didn't know about. And Kevin is a year ahead of me. He graduated a year ahead. And when I got to Washington and Jefferson as a freshman, he was a sophomore. And there were not many black students on the campus of Washington and Jefferson at the time, about 1200 students and there were about 17 of us. [00:05:36] Trina Fullard: Oh, my, right? And Kevin inquired from some friends of his about, who's that young girl? I think with the incoming freshman class. [00:05:50] Kevin Fullard: Because I played football. We were there during the summer before the freshman students came in. So as the freshman class came in, we would look out of the window and see, oh that person over there. [00:06:06] Kevin Fullard: She looks cute. And we would try to find their names and pictures in the little freshman book to say, I need to get a little more information on her. [00:06:15] Trina Fullard: My book, my picture wasn't in the book, Tommy. I didn't send it in. And I'm not quite sure why. I think maybe our senior pictures weren't ready at the time. [00:06:26] Trina Fullard: So he had to ask around a little bit and what I learned later after we started dating was that one of the upper-class girls had said to him, even though you're asking about her, she's out of your league. She won't date you and they bet him that he couldn't get me to go out with him. [00:06:51] Trina Fullard: And so our first date during my freshman year was during the winter basketball season. He was at home on break from his football. The football season had ended. We had just ended it. So he called me and he asked me, what was I doing? And I said, oh, I just finished practice. [00:07:09] Trina Fullard: And he lived about 40 minutes from the college. He drove all the way back to the college. Knocked on my door, I opened the door, not realizing I had just spoken to him on the phone and I knew he was at home and I'm like, what are you doing here? And he said, put on a sweatshirt. We're going to go for a ride and I'm like, I just finished practice. [00:07:36] Trina Fullard: I'm not in the mood for going out anywhere and he was not going to take no for an answer. So we jump in the car and he takes me to an outdoor ice skating rink. Now I really think he's crazy because I'm like, it's the middle of basketball season. I've never been ice skating before. And you think I'm going to get on some ice skates so I can fall? [00:08:01] Kevin Fullard: This was the opportunity for me to see if she was really an athlete. Ha. Oh me. [00:08:09] Trina Fullard: So I think we sat in the car for about 20 minutes. Yes. Uhhuh. And he promised that he would not let me fall. And we got out, we had a great time and I probably fell more than she did. Yeah. But then, after that, it was a really good time for us to bond as two people, two young college students. [00:08:33] Trina Fullard: Trying to navigate through an experience that really turned out, I think, pretty well. 32 years going and we're still going strong. [00:08:44] Tommy Thomas: I think that's pretty good. I think that's real good. Yeah. So both of you then were on your respective athletic teams there. [00:08:52] Tommy Thomas: Were you both on a scholarship or did they have scholarships back then for your division or how did that go? [00:08:59] Kevin Fullard: For our division, we didn't have full scholarships, so they gave us partial scholarships. I think we both had some athletic scholarships, but also education scholarship monies that they were able to give us. [00:09:17] Kevin Fullard: And so that was the avenue we took to be able to pay for our time at W&J. [00:09:27] Trina Fullard: They were very creative because we needed academic money, then there also was a little bit of need-based as well. I'm a first generation college student, but Kevin's older brother was the first generation college student and he went to W&J and Kevin essentially followed him and he played football as well. [00:09:50] Trina Fullard: So his brother had started the path for college for his family. -- [00:09:55] Tommy Thomas: What do you remember about about your first coach at athletics? [00:10:00] Kevin Fullard: My first coach was during little league baseball. And I think he really just taught a lot about understanding the game of baseball and trying to figure out how to work together as a team. [00:10:17] Kevin Fullard: Because growing up, I had the friends in the neighborhood that we would play with and those were friends, but I realized becoming a part of a team was slightly different because now I'm working with and relying on people that really aren't my friends, but we have to work together in order to achieve a common goal. [00:10:42] Kevin Fullard: So that was a great job that the coach did to get us to understand how to build a bond together and understand which or what each person was responsible for so that we could work together. [00:11:00] Trina Fullard: So my first athletic coach was in high school. I started playing basketball only because a friend of mine wanted someone to be on the team that was a friend of hers. [00:11:12] Trina Fullard: I think I learned how athletic I was and how skilled I was at picking things up quickly and then being able to excel at them from my coach in high school. And then I also learned from him that I could learn how not to anticipate. Just be in the moment. [00:11:43] Trina Fullard: And enjoy the moment and don't get all, as we would say, get all crossed up around what's around the corner. And I say that because I never intended to go to college to play basketball. It was not a plan for me. Academics was my focus. The day that the coach from college came to watch me play, I didn't even know she was there because he never told me until the game was over. My high school basketball coach taught me not to anticipate, but to live in the moment. [00:12:12] Trina Fullard: And he said, I want you to meet someone, and that's when he introduced me to Vicki Staten, who was my college coach. And I just asked him, I said, why didn't you tell me that somebody was going to be here watching me play, he said, because I didn't want you to be worried about what's around the corner, I wanted you to stay in the moment. [00:12:33] Tommy Thomas: Good life lesson. [00:12:35] Tommy Thomas: Yeah, absolutely. What coach has, do you think, got the most out of you? [00:12:43] Kevin Fullard: I think from my perspective, the coach that I had as my defensive back coach in college definitely got the most out of me. And I think part of it was because I was becoming of age where I understood there is more to the game than just the game. My college defensive back coach taught me that there is a lot more to football than the game of football.  He taught life lessons that extended far beyond football. [00:13:05] Kevin Fullard: And he really focused a lot on how playing football would relate to outside of the game. How the skills we're learning in football would transition into life experiences and life lessons. And that was a very important thing to learn at that time. So he's definitely the one that got the most out of me as an athlete, but I think myself as a person as well. [00:13:42] Trina Fullard: I would agree. My college coach pulled a lot from me. And as I said earlier, I started playing the game of basketball in high school and she believed in me enough to bring me onto a team knowing that there was a lot more growth that she could pour into and and then being a leader she pressed me into that leadership role into in my sophomore and junior year of setting an example. [00:14:13] Trina Fullard: And even on the bus, studying on the bus for younger athletes that came to see that, yeah, we're on the bus and we're going to, we have a four-hour ride to the game, but it's not about just sitting around and having a great time. There's still time to focus at some point. She would take me on her recruiting trips to talk to other players about what the experience was like at Washington and Jefferson, being on the basketball team and a part of the team and spending time riding in a car with her, listening to her talk about life and what life was going to be like after college. [00:14:50] Trina Fullard: She gave me a book when I graduated and said, do what you love and the money will follow. That book was instrumental for me to realize after undergrad that I had to go on to grad school and continue to education. [00:15:08] Tommy Thomas: So I think you've probably answered this question, but I was going to say at what point did you realize that your coach was trying to teach you more than basketball? [00:15:17] Tommy Thomas: And it sounds like it sounded like that was a reasonably early-on experience in your college athletic experience. [00:15:25] Trina Fullard: I think for me, Washington and Jefferson College and being so ingrained in the athletic space there we both also worked in the athletic office, so we were connected to all of the coaches and would support all of the teams, and so I think we both benefited from interacting with the coaches and life lessons sitting in the office, talking with them in the athletic office as they were just talking about, their families and hearing them talk about things that they were dealing with, we got that as a byproduct for the entire time that we were there. I know we worked in the athletic office for all four years. [00:16:17] Kevin Fullard: And I think for me, it may not have come until my sophomore year. And the big lesson that really stood out for me, and I use it a lot from a counseling perspective. Now I tell a lot of people, especially if I'm working with young kids I try to tell them egos are overrated. [00:16:40] Kevin Fullard: This is one of the big lessons that I try to work with young people on because as a freshman coming in, I felt I was a great athlete coming out of high school, but I wasn't a good teammate coming out of high school because I thought with from an ego perspective, I can do it all. Whatever the team needs, just rely on me. [00:17:06] Kevin Fullard: I'll get it done. And it took the coach through the freshman year to make me realize - No, we all have to be a team. And that came with, I think a lot more maturity. [00:17:24] Tommy Thomas: No matter how hard and dedicated you are to something failure is always an option. What did you learn from team sports about failure that's helped you in life? [00:17:37] Kevin Fullard: I think that the big lesson that I've learned with failure, and this goes back to, I think my little league experience playing baseball. I used to be a pitcher in little league and our team made it to the championship game. My grandmother was very influential in my life and I pitched what I thought was a great game until the last inning and I threw a pitch and gave up a home run. [00:18:11] Kevin Fullard: So we lost the game in the championship game two to one and I came home and I was crying and crying. Laid across my grandmother's lap and as a grandmother would do, she said, what happened in the game? And I explained to her, we lost. I gave up a home run in the last inning and I felt like I cost us the game. [00:18:37] Kevin Fullard: And my grandmother said to me, did you do your best? And I went in to explain to her I threw my best pitch. My best pitch was a curveball. I threw it. I thought it was perfect and he hit it out of the stadium. And my grandmother said, you threw your best pitch. That's all I've ever asked of you. Give it your best. [00:19:03] Kevin Fullard: And let the outcome be the outcome. Just hearing her say she was proud. I carry that through life. [00:19:14] Trina Fullard: Yeah. Failure for me resonates from one high school basketball game where we were playing this team that was considered to be like the powerhouse and at the end of the first half of the game, we had only scored 5 points and this is high school. [00:19:45] Trina Fullard: And I remember, I think it was something like 60 to five or something, and they didn't have a mercy rule back then. And so we went in the locker room and, the whole team, we're just like, we can't believe this, this is just ridiculous. And our coach said to us, listen, this is not about winning and losing. [00:20:09] Trina Fullard: It's about your effort. You may not score 20 points. But you, the team in here, you all have to set a goal and as a team together and you work together, you hold your head up and you go out there and you do the best you can. We just felt so defeated. [00:20:32] Trina Fullard: It took us a minute, we thought about what he said. And we set a goal, we said, we're going to go out there and we're going to score at least 10. So we're going to end up with at least 15. And we lost that game 103 to 35, but we had met our goal. And so the lesson for us at that time was together, even if we don't conquer, we're never going to give up and we're not going to hang our heads. [00:21:05] Trina Fullard: Because again, as Kevin said, we did the best we could. We were clearly outmatched, but we didn't stop playing. We didn't just pack up our little bag and just go home. -- [00:21:18] Tommy Thomas: It's often said that we learn the most when we fail in something, if that's the case, why are we so afraid to fail? [00:21:30] Kevin Fullard: I think people become afraid to fail, not necessarily because of what's in them, but I think they're afraid of the judgment that comes along with failure. And, I try to get people to understand we can't compete or do anything in life with fear and worry about how people will judge us. I think people become afraid to fail, not necessarily because of what's in them, but I think they're afraid of the judgment that comes along with failure. [00:22:01] Trina Fullard: Yeah, I think the same thing, even if I look at the failures in my life what was I worried about, what was what the story would be, if you will. And so that's where I think a lot of times looking inside and saying, okay. What do I want to come out of this? [00:22:26] Trina Fullard: What lesson can I learn? That's what I've always come back to is, okay, it didn't go the way I wanted. Okay, Lord, what's the lesson in it for me so that I continue to move forward? [00:22:42] Tommy Thomas: I've got two things on the legendary coach, Dean Smith from Chapel Hill. And one of his quotes was, what do you do with the mistake? Recognize it, learn from it, admit it, and forget it. [00:22:56] Kevin Fullard: There you go. Exactly. I would agree a hundred percent. [00:23:03] Trina Fullard: Don't forget the learn from it part though. [00:23:05] Tommy Thomas: In his book, it's how you play the game. The 12 leadership lessons of Dean Smith. David Chadwick, a local pastor there in Charlotte who played on one of coach Smith's final four teams writes the concept of team may be coach Smith's greatest contribution to basketball leadership and society. Both of you work with a lot of teams. How has the concept of a team impacted your life? [00:23:30] Trina Fullard: Oh, man, I would say it developed me into becoming what I would say is a collaborative leader, understanding that I need to set the playing field. And establish the rules for the team and, as long as those are clear everyone understands what their role is, and we can accomplish great things. I think it also requires me sometimes to, if I look at a football field, to sometimes be on the sideline with the team, but then sometimes I need to go up into the booth. And I need to see from a different angle. But just collaboratively being engaged and being in it when I need to be in it and reflecting back and allowing the team to work. [00:24:22] Kevin Fullard: Yeah, and I think for me, from the team perspective, being able to look at the different players that make up the team, because I always believe we're as strong as the weakest link. And sometimes being able to identify people's strengths as well as their weaknesses is important in leadership and teamwork. [00:24:52] Kevin Fullard: Because if I know one person has a particular weakness, but we can rally around them to make that weakness not something that's going to make the chain break, then that's a great focus for us to be on. [00:25:16] Tommy Thomas: Another quote on team, a group is a bunch of people in an elevator. A team is a bunch of people in an elevator, but the elevator is broken. [00:25:27] Trina Fullard: I like that. [00:25:35] Tommy Thomas: Yeah, you have to you have to think on that. To let that one sink in. Let me go to risk for a minute. We all have taken risks. Some more than others. [00:25:45] Tommy Thomas: What's the biggest risk you've taken in life and how did it turn out? [00:25:55] Kevin Fullard: I would think the biggest risk that I've taken in life was the relocation to Charlotte from Pittsburgh, being able to move away from a support system, a network, because we didn't know anyone in Charlotte when we came down. I've never been to Charlotte, but I have family who live down towards the Wilmington area. The biggest risk that I've taken in life. was the relocation to Charlotte from Pittsburgh – moving away from our support system because we didn't know anyone in Charlotte when we came down.   [00:26:27] Kevin Fullard: So I knew I enjoyed the weather of Charlotte and I wanted to get away from the snow of Pittsburgh. Yes. And that was the biggest risk because I didn't have a job I came to find out one of my cousins whom I knew as a child, but we hadn't seen each other in 15 years, had moved to Charlotte, so just coming down and having faith that we're going to make this work, and I think it was good for us as a couple because we became the new team, the team that we had in Pittsburgh. [00:27:08] Kevin Fullard: Her team that she grew up with and my team that I grew up with was no longer. That team, they were that group in the elevator. We were now the team that was in the elevator. [00:27:25] Tommy Thomas: Yeah. You both have mentioned the faith in your life. As people of faith, how do you deal with your competitive streak? [00:27:38] Trina Fullard: I think this kind of might be one of the areas where we might be a little bit, a little different. For me, it is just relying on God to help me to keep it about serving him in a way that I can feel comfortable. Being competitive is not necessarily against the other person, but competing against myself. [00:28:07] Trina Fullard: When we go bowling, where we're a family of athletes bowling now has become like the thing we compete at. Our son is an avid bowler as well. But at the end of the day, it's about the ability to still be in God's grace and in a space and being. [00:28:29] Trina Fullard: Okay. I'm not maybe as much of a competitor as Kevin has been. [00:28:36] Kevin Fullard: Yeah, and I think that is where we there for some because my faith, whenever I'm competing, I've always remembered praying that everyone in the game would be healthy. I never wanted to get into a football game where we cause major injury to anyone. [00:29:02] Kevin Fullard: But in the game, it was truly competition of I'm out to win. There was no gray area. In my mind, and that was always the place I think I struggle from the faith standpoint because it wasn't just me competing, just enjoying my walk, it was me competing because I wanted to achieve this goal. [00:29:36] Kevin Fullard: And this was my goal that I thought the other team was keeping me from. [00:29:43] Tommy Thomas: It can be a struggle. Yes, it can be a struggle. What's the best piece of advice you've ever received from a mentor? [00:30:02] Kevin Fullard: I think from my standpoint, the best piece of advice came from my college advisor during my junior year. We sat down and he was talking to me about what path I wanted in life. And he could tell a lot of the career choices I was picking were very conservative. And so he asked me to tell him my biggest fear. [00:30:38] Kevin Fullard: And I told him my biggest fear was failure. And he sat down and really had a long discussion with me that holding on to a fear of failure will be the thing that would keep me from succeeding. Because I would never allow myself to push the limits. To see what other great things I could do. I would only try to achieve the simple things that I already knew I was good at. [00:31:15] Tommy Thomas: So was going to graduate school, was that a fear? Was that outside your comfort zone or was that something that you just knew you were going to do? [00:31:25] Kevin Fullard: Graduate school for me, wasn't something I knew I was going to do. I had this false belief of I'm going to get my bachelor's degree in psychology, and I was going to make 75,000 as my first job, and my advisor said to me, he said, okay, if that's your goal, I'm not going to tell you not to go for that. He said, but do me a favor, apply for graduate school. He said, I'll give you the whole summer to find the job that's going to pay you what you're looking for. And if you find it, you don't have to go to graduate school, but if you don't I win and you go to graduate school. So I told her I said, okay I'll take that deal and I searched, and the job that I found probably paid me about 20,000. [00:32:26] Kevin Fullard: So in the middle of December, I called my advisor and I told him I guess I'm going to graduate school. You win. [00:32:35] Tommy Thomas: What about you Trina? [00:32:37] Trina Fullard: For me I didn't really have, I would say, a mentor, that imparted some words, some wisdom on me. For me, it was my mom, and she passed in 2015. But the one thing that she would say to me, as I was going into high school, going into college, going into graduate school, when I became a mom, she would say to me this all the time. [00:33:05] Trina Fullard: She said, Trina, when people meet you and they get to know you, there's going to be a lot of people that are going to be expecting that there's another shoe that's going to drop as though when they meet you, that's not who you really are. She said, I know there's not another shoe. Don't you forget that. So I've carried that with me throughout a lot of all these experiences that I've had in the last few years because I walk into a lot of rooms. [00:33:41] Trina Fullard: And I get stares or looks or people are wondering, oh who's she, why is she here? And I've had to get to know people who are trying to wonder, is this lady for real? Is she really who she says she is? And I just remember my mom, hearing my mom's voice saying, there's no other shoe. [00:34:02] Trina Fullard: Just remember that. [00:34:07] Tommy Thomas: Hopefully we've come out of the pandemic. That may be debatable, but thinking back on the lessons you learned in the pandemic what's the biggest lesson you think you'll take forward, that you thought I learned that we can do that next year, pandemic or not? [00:34:25] Trina Fullard: I learned resilience. Early on, right when we weren't really sure what the pandemic really meant and how it was going to affect people. I was diagnosed with Covid and had got it from a coworker. And this house went into like fortress mode. I was, locked in the room, literally anytime I came out, I had to notify everyone I was coming out of the room. The pandemic taught me resilience. [00:34:52] Trina Fullard: My husband treated me like I was in jail. But that we were faced early on with, this is a health issue. It's a health risk. Unfortunately, my coworker who I had caught it from passed away. So that put it like in our face. But we learned early on that our family was resilient and we could create our bubble and we could move from day to day and place to place. [00:35:20] Trina Fullard: And that we were going to be okay. And then we also knew as we prayed and we were like, okay, God, you got to cover us. We are essential workers. So there was no isolating and just, being in the house, we were still going to work each and every day. And so for me, it was resilient and that we could get through. [00:35:44] Kevin Fullard: And I think for me, going through that period of COVID was learning the fact of not being afraid of the unknown because no one at that time knew what it was going to be like. I saw on TV where they were having the trailers outside of the hospitals putting all of the dead bodies and there was that fear. ​​The pandemic taught me more about not being afraid of the unknown. [00:36:17] Kevin Fullard: But it also made me realize I was still going into hospitals, doctors' offices, meeting with my clients because they needed me there. And I had to overcome that fear of just focusing on myself and having faith that I will be protected, that God was watching over me, and that as long as I do His will, everything will be safe. -- [00:36:48] Tommy Thomas: Let me wrap it up with a couple of kind of closing questions. One, if you could go back in time and tell a younger version of yourself something, what would you say? [00:37:10] Trina Fullard: Don't look back. [00:37:12] Trina Fullard: Leave your past in the past and keep your eyes focused on what's ahead of you. [00:37:19] Kevin Fullard: And I think for me, it would be the people in your life who are meant to be with you will always be with you. That there are some people that you just can't bring along for the ride. [00:37:42] Tommy Thomas: Say you're invited to a banquet next week and this will happen to you many times in the next 15-20 years, you're invited to a banquet and you're sitting beside a total stranger. How do you start a meaningful conversation? Share. [00:38:01] Trina Fullard: There are so many options with that, Tommy. It depends on the setting, the event. But if I'm sitting next to a total stranger I would just say, hey, my name's Trina. What's yours? [00:38:19] Kevin Fullard: I think if I was sitting in the banquet, I would probably ask them, what's their role, what do you do? Because that's usually a big conversation starter. People can take that question in many different ways. And so that's a way that I always try to figure out what's important to that person's life. [00:38:47] Tommy Thomas: If you could meet any historical figure and ask them only one question, who would you want to meet and what would the question be? [00:39:03] Trina Fullard: If I could meet one person, I would love to meet Michelle Obama. And I would ask her what motivates her. What drives you to move the way you move? [00:39:28] Kevin Fullard: I think I would want to meet Nelson Mandela to find out how do you hold on to the thing that you believe when everything around you is trying to destroy that belief and that drive you have and to keep that passion to still deliver the message that you want to deliver. [00:39:59] Tommy Thomas: What small act of kindness were you once shown that you'll never forget? [00:40:22] Kevin Fullard: The act of kindness, and it's probably a very simple thing, but it meant the world to me was standing outside as a, probably a 10-year-old, nine-year-old. And we used to walk to the store and we grew up without a lot of money. And we were standing outside of the ice cream shop. It was a hot day and a customer who was walking in knew we didn't have any money to buy the ice cream and something as simple as she said, can you guys come in with me and help me carry something? And so we were being nice and we went in to help her. We thought she would have something big she needed to carry. And when we went in with her, she had us pick out an ice cream cone and she said, I just want you to carry this back outside. And that just meant the world to me because that act of kindness made me want to do those things for others. [00:41:47] Trina Fullard: For me, Tommy, right now it centers around the last few months that my mother was alive. She lived here in Charlotte and stayed with us primarily. And I have a group of friends that there are four ladies and they knew how tough that was on me. And so randomly, they would come to the hospital and just sit, it was like, they took turns, like just being that moral support. [00:42:21] Trina Fullard: And, for me, it was Trina go downstairs and get something to eat. I'll sit here with your mom while you go downstairs, she would be going for a test. One of them would be there and say, nope, I'll go down and I'll be there while she's going through that test. So you can have a minute just so that you can breathe and I knew they were my friends, but I think I really knew how much I meant to them and how our bond got stronger. Because that time for me was very hard and they were just there and I'll never forget them for how they just showed up at a time when I'm not really good at asking for help, but I didn't have to ask them. [00:43:09] Tommy Thomas: This has been a great conversation. Thank y'all for taking time from your evening to spend this time with me and the audience. And Karina I was thinking this afternoon, I want to circle back to you about six months after you've been in the corner office and we want to talk about what this first six months being the CEO was like. [00:43:29] Tommy Thomas: So I'm all for it. I appreciate that. I hope I have lots to share.   Links & Resources JobfitMatters Website Next Gen Nonprofit Leadership with Tommy Thomas The Perfect Search – What every board needs to know about hiring their next CEO Charlotte Rescue Mission   Connect tthomas@jobfitmatters.com Follow Tommy on LinkedIn Follow Kevin Fullard on LinkedIn Follow Trina Fullard on LinkedIn   Listen to Next Gen Nonprofit Leadership with Tommy Thomas on: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Stitcher | Google Podcasts

Dr. Rosenbum discusses Interventional Psychiatry, the role of Stellate Ganglion Blocks in PTSD, Ketamine Infusions for Depression, and the role of Magnesium as a co-factor in ketamine infusions.  Other Announcements from NRAP Academy: PainExam App almost ready  Pain Management Board Prep migrated to NRAPpain.org AnesthesiaExam Board Prep migrated to NRAPpain.org PMRExam Board Prep migrated to NRAPpain.org   Live Workshop Calendar   Ultrasound Interventional Pain Course Registration      For Anesthesia Board Prep Click Here! References https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/endocrinology/articles/10.3389/fendo.2023.1293358/full   References   Górska N, Cubała WJ, Słupski J, Wiglusz MS, Gałuszko-Węgielnik M, Kawka M, Grzegorzewska A. Magnesium in Ketamine Administration in Treatment-Resistant Depression. Pharmaceuticals (Basel). 2021 May 3;14(5):430. doi: 10.3390/ph14050430. PMID: 34063604; PMCID: PMC8147622.   https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychiatry/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2021.513068/full   https://www.sutterhealth.org/services/behavioral-health/interventional-psychiatry   Hanling SR, Hickey A, Lesnik I, et al Stellate Ganglion Block for the Treatment of Posttraumatic Stress Disorder: A Randomized, Double-Blind, Controlled Trial Regional Anesthesia & Pain Medicine 2016;41:494-500.   https://www.psychiatrist.com/jcp/oral-ketamine-for-depression/  

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It's a very special week here at the Triple P Life podcast, as Dr. Jay celebrates his 60th birthday! Entering a brand new decade of life felt like a great time to do some reflection on how and why Dr. Jay got to the places he has, and some forecasting on what things are still lay ahead for him. To do so, he enlisted his business partner WJ Vincent to play co-host for the day, and put Dr. Jay through a series of questions in hopes of extracting some nuggets of wisdom learned and practiced over Dr. Jay's first 60 years of life.  From what he was most proud of about his 50s, to the best book he's read and lesson he's learned from it, to what keeps him up at night and the hardest decisions he's ever had to make. The two cover a lot of ground and it is all sure to inspire you and bring you some wisdom and foresight to help work towards living your own Triple P Life.  Chapters: Introduction (00:00) Catching Up with WJ (00:22) Success Snack (04:26) Make Decisions With Conviction (06:47) Finding Balance (10:57) At What Point Did You Feel Successful (15:02) Most Proud of Doing in Your 50s (16:42) Best Book You've Read Recently and the Lesson It Taught (21:16) Best Place You've Traveled (29:48) What Keeps You Awake At Night (30:58) Does the Idea of Being 60 Scare You (32:22) What Time of Day Do You Operate Your Best (34:22) Hardest Decision Ever Had to Make (34:52) One Piece of Advice For Someone Starting Out (39:49) Find all things Triple P Life by visiting the website. Follow Dr. Jay: Facebook | LinkedIn | YouTube Find all the nutrition and supplement products Triple P Nutrition has to offer here.

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On this episode of LAP, the guy's are joined by Patrick and cover the mini win streak the Ducks are riding into All Star weekend. They talk about what the month of February has in store for Anaheim, including the chance to potentially rob the Oilers of history. They cover the heavy 2018 WJ news (01:04:08) and give their thoughts about the details we know so far. This segment ends at (01:24:40). As always, the boys finish the episode with listener questions! Follow Late Arrivals  Twitter: @latearrivalspod Instagram: @latearrivalspod Follow the hosts Chris: @CJKChel Patrick: @PatrickCPresent Jake: @_JRobles71 Louis: @Louiex37  Intro/ Outro done by Will Rice/ @pastorwillrice

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In July, I hosted a webinar called "How To Get Past Hollywood Gatekeepers" where I shared my thoughts on creative things you can do now with the strikes happening, as well as what you shouldn't be doing. This episode addresses questions you asked in our Q&A session that we didn't have time to answer. There's lots of great info here, make sure you watch.Show NotesFree Writing Webinar - https://michaeljamin.com/op/webinar-registration/Michael's Online Screenwriting Course - https://michaeljamin.com/courseFree Screenwriting Lesson - https://michaeljamin.com/freeJoin My Watchlist - https://michaeljamin.com/watchlistAutogenerated TranscriptMichael Jamin:You shouldn't. You should not try to work. I mean, you don't go on any guild SAG projects or guild projects, but you could do, if it's a non SAG project, like a student film or something, you can do that. You're not violating anything. You're not getting paid, but you can build your network. Exactly. Or make your own stuff. If you write your own mini scene or movie or whatever and you shoot it on your phone, you're not breaking any strikes. You're not selling it, you're just shooting it. You're listening to screenwriters. Need to hear this with Michael. Hey everybody, welcome back. It's Michael Jamin. I'm here with Phil Hudson and we are going to answer some questions. So as you may or may not know, we host a webinar, a free webinar every three weeks usually, and I try to answer a different topic. And the last topic we did was called How to Get Past Industry Gatekeepers. And we did an exclusive v i P room afterwards where people could ask questions. This is where the questions are coming from, Phil, right?Phil Hudson:No, these are actually the ones from the webinar. We didn'tMichael Jamin:Oh, these are from the webinar. Okay.Phil Hudson:Yeah, because we shifted things up and for people who, dunno, you were spending a lot of time, we were staying on for an hour doing q and a with everybody, and so we just decided to give everyone an opportunity to hop in and get FaceTime with you. It's limited seats of V I P Q and A, and this is for the people who ask questions during the webinar who didn't get their questions answered rightMichael Jamin:Now I'm confused. Okay. Yeah, so to be clear, the webinar is free, but we also did a little bonus thing afterwards that people can buy in so I can answer more questions. So these are questions. I didn't get it. We didn't have time to answer and Phil's going to cue me. What is it? Yeah,Phil Hudson:No, I was going to say we're going to dive in and I think it's just two things. If you want to have a question answered by Michael, there's two ways to get that done and you're very, very open with your time. One is to join the webinar. We typically have one, sometimes two a month depending on the month, and it's a different topic typically every time. But we have a couple that people really like, so we might be focusing on those. But if you can't get your question answered there, the v i P is an opportunity for them to hop in with you and really just spend that time, time you turn your camera on. You ask myMichael Jamin:Question. Well, it's not one-on-one. A small group of people.Phil Hudson:So it's not one-on-one in the sense that you sit there and you get to talk to Michael. You don't have to. It's not, yeah. Thank you for clarifying. Yeah. So yeah, let's dive in. And we've done previous episodes. I've broken these into subjects. So there are a couple key categories. This is heavily weighted towards breaking into Hollywood because that was the topic,Michael Jamin:ButPhil Hudson:I think the craft questions are always good. So starting there, Norville, scs, if a character changes for the better over the course of a story, is there initial likability, something to focus on?Michael Jamin:Well, likability is a complicated thing. Sometimes people, you'll get a note from the studio saying these need to be likable. And that's not the same thing as the audience needs to the characters, which is a different, okay, so Tony Soprano is not a likable person. You don't want to spend 10 minutes with the guy, he might kill you, okay? But the audience likes to watch him because he's interesting. But often you'll get a note from the studio saying, these characters, they're too unlikable. I don't have an answer to that. It depends if you're doing a drama or a comedy, but generally the note you're going to get is these need to be likable characters, especially if you're doing a comedy. We're spending time with them, we're spending a lot of time with them. So even in Cheers, I'm sure one of the notes was Carla's too unlikable, so they probably softened her up so she wasn't, because you're spending time with him, this is your family, I guess. I dunno if that answers the question. It's the best I can do. Well,Phil Hudson:I think the question comes from Save the Cat, which you've admittedly never read and you've never read, but it definitely talks about how your character should do something to make us like them in the first three to five pages because we'll want to root for them and it's a redeeming factor and there's plenty of evidence as to why that's not necessarilyMichael Jamin:Accurate. I don't subscribe to that. I don't subscribe to that. So yeah,Phil Hudson:As good as it gets. You recommended, I read that for a script. I was writing one point. Is that it? Where is that? Not Jack Nicholson.Michael Jamin:Yeah, I mean I love that, but I don't rememberPhil Hudson:Telling you, but he throws the dog down the garbage shoot.Michael Jamin:Oh yeah, it was the first time we seen him. He throws the dog down the garbage shoot.Phil Hudson:It's the opposite of saving the cat.Michael Jamin:And it'sPhil Hudson:A classic, it's incredible film.Michael Jamin:And that's a film, right? So that's not a sitcom. So again, I don't subscribe to this thing. The character has to do something likable. What is that? I mean, I think they have to do something interesting. Engaging and throwing a dog on a shoot is kind of interesting for sure. SoPhil Hudson:Yeah, what kind of person would do that? Use his questions. Jackie Smite. What if you have a script for a very specific franchise? Is it simply foolish if you are an inexperienced or is it a bad idea in general?Michael Jamin:Bad idea in general. And it's foolish. You got 'em both write. You can't write for a franchise. You don't own the ip, it's not yours, let it go. You don't write a Marvel movie, don't write a Disney movie with the princesses. It's not yours, so let it go. Don't write anything with a franchise.Phil Hudson:This is a very common one. I mean, most people have an idea for a story and it's based off of existing ip. I remember talking to a friend in 2008, a couple months after I really started studying screenwriting. She's like, oh, I have this enemy franchise. I want to adapt for tv. And I was like, okay, I don't think you could do that. And yeah,Michael Jamin:Reach out to, if you get the rights from them, then do it, but you don't have the rights, so don't do it.Phil Hudson:And that is a process and we'll probably circle back on that because there's a question about attorneys, which we'll get to in a minute.Michael Jamin:Oh, okay.Phil Hudson:Cliff Johnson ii. I write drama features to half hour comedy and also differing genres. Is it limiting to spread myself thin or should I keep building a diverse portfolio?Michael Jamin:You don't need a diverse portfolio. I'd say specialize in whatever it is you enjoy the most. Focus on that, get really good at it, and then market yourself as the best damn thriller writer there is. Or the best broad comedy writer there is. You don't need a broad portfolio. You need to have a specific portfolio that really showcases your excellence in this one area.Phil Hudson:Yeah. You've given advice as well in the past that let's say you're a sitcom writer, well get really good at writing half hour single camera sitcoms that do multi, then do animated. So you stay in that genre, but you can build a portfolio within that genre to show your base. But it's different than writing violent westerns and Taylor Sheridan style.Michael Jamin:Yes. Right. I'm glad you pointed at that. So if you want to be a comedy writer, you might want a Yes. A broad you should have, should have a grounded single camera comedy, but it's all comedy. Yeah.Phil Hudson:Yeah. Awesome. Andrew James jokes, do you see everything from a certain comedic viewpoint when thinking of content or writing a script,Michael Jamin:A certain comedic viewpoint? I don't remember. Not sure what that means. There's things that strike me as funny. I'm not sure if I have. I thinkPhil Hudson:For me, I think I understand this question, but I don't want to interrupt you if you have something.Michael Jamin:No, what do you think?Phil Hudson:I think what's being asked is when I was told once that I have a particular view of the world and it often is a comical view of the world. I look at the ridiculousness of bureaucracy or rules and rather than get upset, I just make fun of them or I find ways to poke holes at them. To me it's really that question. Do you have that point of view to say, this is my Mike. Judge has, I would say, has a really clear point of view and the way he does his things. Do you look at things through a certain lens?Michael Jamin:I don't know if I do. I mean, I'm sure I have a voice. I'm always interested, I guess how do I like finding things, thinking of things that are funny, but I'm not sure if I have a specific I tact that I take, sorry, I can't help them more. I got to think about that more. Do I have a point of view? I tend to think silly and stupid, but I think I'm smart. I mean, I went to college and everything, but I don't think I'm dumb, but I think my voice is sometimes of a dumb person.Phil Hudson:When I think of your voice, I think of a lot of the things you share about the way you kid with your daughters,Michael Jamin:The way I kid with my daughters.Phil Hudson:Yeah, just like you've done a couple of social media posts where you're like, it's like dad jokes, but at a different level. It's an elevated dad joke almost.Michael Jamin:Well, I'm their dad.Phil Hudson:I know, but it's like dad jokes very punny. And then yours is one step further and you've done several of these quick bites on social media that are related to your conversations with your daughters. To me, that's Michael Jamin and Comedy.Michael Jamin:Oh yeah. I love having fun with my kids. They're so funny. Yeah.Phil Hudson:Cool. And then Phyllis Hill, Phyllis was pretty active, so we got a bunch of questions from her, but they were very good. I sorted through a bunch of 'em. And this is a little bit tied to something I know we've talked about before and I just thought it was good to put on the podcast. Have streaming platforms changed story structure, the same story structure that might've been used back during the day of network TV shows?Michael Jamin:Great question. Not in a hugely significant way. The biggest thing is probably, well, there's no commercial breaks, but so what? We still break the story still the same. We just don't go to commercial. But when we break it on the whiteboard, same thing. It doesn't matter. The only difference is streamers sometimes want you to have serialized stories. So the end, they want to end on a pregnant moment where, so it's continued. So the next story picks up where the last one ended. That's sometimes what they want so that you binge, but that's kind of easy. Often you can, if you go back and watch Weeds, the show Weeds, they did that really well see, they tell a full story and then at the end the story's over. They just do a weird little thing at the end of that story. And then that story would be the beginning. That beat would be the beginning of the next story. So it's super easy in terms of breaking it. It actually makes it kind of easy. It doesn't make, it's the same kind of storytelling. You're just adding one more beat at the end.Phil Hudson:Yeah, that's awesome. I think that's a very concise answer, Michael.Michael Jamin:I get paid by Word.Phil Hudson:I love that. I was going to say Charles Duma is Alexander Duma. I don't know who Charlie Duma is, but he's probably Alexander Dumas's cousin twice divorced. Some questions about your course which come up because during the webinar you're often, one of the things, people have a chance to win your course, you get lifetime access to the course. One person wins every time, but also you give a discount to the course.Michael Jamin:Yeah, if you're listening to this, come to these free webinars that I div, we give a good discount to anyone who attendsPhil Hudson:And that opens registration for that block of enrollment. Leonard h wanted to know, will the course do anything for someone working on documentaries?Michael Jamin:Yeah, I don't know. I mean personally I think yes, but I'm not a documentary filmmaker, but I have watched documentary films where I thought this would've been better if they went through my course. They would've dove into the emotional moments that I feel. But having never made a documentary, what the hell do I know? But I have watched documentaries where I thought this was good, but it wasn't great. It didn't really move me emotionally or I should. I think that's when documentaries really work is when or anything works when you finish watching it and you're still thinking about it, you're still feeling it the next day. So I don't want to promise, but I would think it would help. ButPhil Hudson:I have taken a documentary film class as part of my film school stuff. It's honestly one of the better classes I took. It was taught by a guy named Hank who was a Sundance fellow in the documentary labs and he done multiple documentaries. That's literally, he teaches and then he and his wife shoot documentaries and manage those tons of stuff in South by Southwest, the film fest, Sundance Film Festival, all that stuff. And absolutely story structure is a very vital part of that. And you get into the cinema verte and how you're doing your documentary and the influence of structure and story, but the story structure had to be there, or no one wants to watch what you're doing,Michael Jamin:Nobody cares. So the hard part is you can't invent that. You have to hopefully capture that and then know, oh, I captured this moment. This would be a good first act break.Phil Hudson:But they're scripted there. They're scripted. You need to understand what things you need to get, what beats you want to get as you tell the story. And then it evolves out of that. You often are surprised by what you get, but then there's the paper edit you do when you go into editing where you have transcripts of all the footage and you're looking for things. And it was a little bit uncomfortable for me then and still is now. He even encouraged that it's your job to tell the best version of that story as you can. And there is no such thing as cinema verite, truth of the camera, right? Truth of the lens. You can't because the moment you're there observing it, it changes. And that's a law of physics. You observe an Adam behaves different. And so he says at the end of the day, let's say that you filmed something out of order and there's a clip that you shot two months from now, but it helps tell the story that you need to tell. He had no problem rearranging things or cutting people out of order to get the story that he needed at the end of it.Michael Jamin:So your point is the story, our course would help. That'sPhil Hudson:Your point. Absolutely. Yeah, I absolutely would help.Michael Jamin:Alright,Phil Hudson:There you go. There you go. A couple of questions from Phyllis. Please compare your class to screenwriting classes like the ones offered on Masterclass.Michael Jamin:Well, again, I haven't gone through all the ones in Masterclass. I've watched a few videos of some of the speakers. I don't know, I mean I didn't watch all of it. I don't know. I really can't say having not watched all of it. I think mine is, I would expect mine is a little more hands-on in the sense that I'm teaching you literally how we break a story in the room. I don't fill you with a lot of terms that we don't use, but Phil, have you gone through Masterclass? Yeah. Maybe you'll know better than I do.Phil Hudson:Active subscriber to Masterclass for a long time and most of them I can't get through on Masterclass including, and look, I think Aaron Sorkin's one of the most prolific author writers of our time and I love everything he puts out. ButMichael Jamin:Yeah, he's Shakespeare. He's the Shakespeare of our time.Phil Hudson:Couldn't get through it, couldn't get through his course,Michael Jamin:Couldn't get throughPhil Hudson:It. No, a lot of, and actually I can tell you this because in my agency we have a client who is getting their own masterclass right now. So I've got a little view through the window of what that platform is. And I'm not saying all platforms are like this and I don't want to be saying anything disparaging against Masterclass. I really enjoy masterclass, but the amount of content they shoot versus what you get, it's like 20% of what that person did and they're not editing it. So Masterclass does this stuff, they're in Sorkin and then what you get on the back end of that or Shonda Rogers or whoever, you get to the end of that and it's like 20% of what they talked about. It's good, but it's not the meat. It's not the meat of what you want.Michael Jamin:I've watched some, not theirs, but I felt, and I love masterclass too, I felt you got a taste of everything. You can really learn a lot about cars and cooking and it's a really great, but I felt like from what I watched, it didn't go deep enough. That's not what it is. It's a sampling. And I thought it was interesting but not helpful for some of the ones I saw. Interesting but not helpful.Phil Hudson:The most practical one was Aaron Franklin's barbecue cooking class. And I put that one to good use with my smoker because it is very much, here's how you do it, here's how you tip things, here's how you wrap meat. It's just actionable. SoMichael Jamin:If I ate meat, I'd come over and make me a nice smoked dinner, but I don't,Phil Hudson:You'd be very happy.Michael Jamin:I'd probably start sweating.Phil Hudson:I'll meat sweats. Yeah, I'll make you some nice broccolini. How about that?Michael Jamin:Yeah, that'd be nice.Phil Hudson:Alright, and then just another question from Phyllis, and I think this is more broad about you and what you're doing for people online in the webinars with the course, everything. What is your motivation to offer this assistance other than money?Michael Jamin:Oh, well, when I broke into the business, this is back in the nineties, this was before the internet and I was living in New York. I knew nothing about the industry. I knew nothing. I knew no one, how would I know anything? So I just got in my car and I drove to LA thinking well get close. But now because the internet, social media, you can talk to people like me and get so much information for free and what a gift. And so I know people say it's impossible to break into Hollywood. Yeah, yes, it's hard, but it's even harder if you don't even know where to begin if you don't have these resources. But now I started building my social media profile back a little over two years ago as a way of building my platform so that I have a book that's coming out so that I could platform my agents has platform drives acquisition. I need a following to sell my book to perform and do all these things that I wanted to do. And so the way to build this platform was by just talking about what I know and giving 90% of it away for free. The other 10% is in this course that we have and that'sPhil Hudson:It. I a call from Michael and I was doing runs for Tacoma FD like season two or something. And you called me and you're like, Hey man, can you come over? I want run some stuff by you. I know many people know this, but some people don't. I know you through working at a digital marketing agency where I assisted your wife's e-commerce website and just worked for her for a couple of years doing whatever I could to take care of her. She'd been ripped off by the sales guy who sold her some stuff that we couldn't do and I had no idea who you were or what you guys did. And then one day you were going to join and it kind of put it together and you guys were just very kind and have always been kind to share your knowledge with me, but well,Michael Jamin:You started it. You started it by being kind first. Let's be clear.Phil Hudson:It was the right thing to do, right? It's a principle thing, which is very important. And at the end of the day, you called me over because I have that experience, that skillset, and we just had a sit down in your garage and you broke your Adirondack chair and then you told me that it wasMichael Jamin:Already broken. Broken, it was already broken,Phil Hudson:Was a big guy. I was sweating that once. I had to buy you a director's chair to replaceMichael Jamin:It.Phil Hudson:But anyway, we talked about this, what do you need to do? And I was like, finally, because I've been begging you for years to do this course and to put your stuff out there just because the private email lessons and the conversations we had were so incredibly valuable to me. And I was in flu school at the time and getting more value out of an email you'd send me over a weekend than I was getting in a week of lectures at that school.This is how you do what you need to do to sell your book and here's how you give. And the mantra of any good digital marketing platform is give, give, give, right, give, give, give. And there's an ask. There's always a right for an ask in there as well, because you are giving, and we talked about the course and you were very clear, I don't want to, you feel sleazy selling things. You don't want to do that you're, you're a writer, you're not a guy who does this. You're not pretending to be the answer to all things. And I said, but people will value what you have and they have to pay for it to value it. So I'm the one who pushed it. I'm the one who pushed the price and you've reduced the price over and over again because you just want to make sure that it's getting as many people as it can.You do, A lot of people don't know this. You offer basically free financing through yourself. People can sign up for the course on a three month plan, a six month plan, or pay in full and you don't bill 'em any interest. And there are plenty of ways for us to get interest off of people or get people to pay interest and that's just from my perspective, it's 100% honestly. How can I serve as many people as possible so that I can get this passion project of my book speaking as you to as many people as I can.Michael Jamin:Yeah, there you go. You answered it. Well, Phil, I think you said it better than I did.Phil Hudson:I'm growing long-winded in my as I wax old.Michael Jamin:Wax old.Phil Hudson:Yeah. Alright, cool. Now to the meat of the episode for the webinar was about breaking in and so there's some really good stuff here and so I know we'll be quick on some of this, but if you want, this full webinar broadcast is available for purchase as well on your website. It's like 29 bucks and it's lifetime access and they can watch the whole episode of this webinar.Michael Jamin:Yeah, go get it.Phil Hudson:Yeah, but Valerie Taylor, so once the script is done, what does it mean to build the mountain? What does the work have to do? And that's reference to a podcast episode we did recently that a lot of people really liked, which is Build Your Mountain.Michael Jamin:There are people doing this. I didn't come up with this idea. There are people on social media, content creators who are just putting their out there and because it's really good they're building a following. I dunno if that was their intention in the beginning, but that's what they've done. One I always mention is Sarah Cooper, I wish she would do my podcast. So have you reachedPhil Hudson:Interesting?Michael Jamin:I tagged her on something, but she's busy. She's busy, but I'm a huge fan of hers. So she's this vicious woman, young actress who as far as I can tell she couldn't get arrested in New York City. She just started during the pandemic posting kind of funny lip syncs of Donald Trump, but she wasn't just lip-syncing, was plusing it. She was adding her own comedy to it and her own reactions and it was really, she was great and she's just doing this and she wants to be an actor and a writer, but she's doing this and she was so great at it. She built a giant following and because this following people discovered her and because of that she gets, I think she got a Netflix special. She got a pilot out of it and where the pilot, she can write her own stuff now. I think some of the projects never went to air, but she sold it. She made a name for herself and she will continue making a name for herself because she built it first. She wasn't begging people for opportunities. It's the other way around. She started doing it and then because she was so good at it, people came after her. People started begging her.And you don't have to, and I think maybe Phil, we might even do a whole, I may save some of this information from our next webinar. I want talk. Yeah, I'm going to save, but I have more thoughts to this I I'll put in our next free webinar. Write. Write. Yeah.Phil Hudson:Can't wait. Oh, by the way, Michael puts a month worth of effort into writing every webinar. I see the revisions and I'm always like, Michael, I need this so I can make the workbook. Michael, I need this. And he's still editing. So Hayden, Sears, earlier you said to bring more to the table of an agency than a script. What else should I bring to the table?Michael Jamin:You could do what I just said with Sarah Cooper. She brought a huge following. She brought, you could bring talent, you could bring a movie that you launched, finance that you did yourself at Sundance that got accolades and now you're this hot new director or writer or whatever. That's bringing more to the table than saying, Hey, pick me. You're doing it already. You are already doing it. You're proving that you know how to do it. And people don't do it because it's work or they think it's too expensive. But I have to say, it's not the money that's holding you back. The money. You can raise $10,000 or $15,000. I know it's not nothing but it. We're not talking about a million dollars, we're talking about 10,000. You can raise it on a Kickstarter, you can raise it on a bake sale and you can shoot the damn thing on your phone and you can edit it on your phone.You just need good sound. That's what I recommend. But you don't need great locations. You can shoot the thing one, I always mention this, Phil is the whale, the movie The Whale, which is based on a play that was shot in an apartment. So don't tell me you need to have great locations to make something amazing. It was shot in a dumpy apartment and one of the most, it was a beautiful story. Beautiful. It was all because the writing, the writing was excellent and because the writing was X, it was able to attract great actors and the acting rose to the writing. If the writing was no good, who cares what the acting is?Phil Hudson:Yep. Cynthia always said that in our classes with Jill, your interacting classes, the writers put it on the page. Everything in actor needs to know is on the page. That's where the performance comes from.Michael Jamin:If it's a good script, yeah.Phil Hudson:Awesome. The cinema magician with the strike going on from both the writers and the actors now it feels like it wouldn't be fair trying to come get work this moment. How can I try to try for work and support the union?Michael Jamin:You shouldn't. You should not try to work. I mean, you don't go on any guild sag projects or guild projects, but you could do, if it's a non sag project, like a student film or something, you can do that. You're not violating anything. You're not getting paid. SoPhil Hudson:Build your network.Michael Jamin:Build your network. Exactly. Or make your own stuff. If you write your own mini scene or movie or whatever and you shoot it on your phone, you're not breaking any strikes. You're not selling it. You're just shooting it.Phil Hudson:Yep. Awesome. Love Leanne. Who is a member of your course, how should we speak to writers and other filmmakers on the picket lines? I've seen others not doing it very well and I'm kind of afraid to speak.Michael Jamin:Oh, well that's hard. I mean, all you got to do is don't act like you want something from them. Just act like you want to learn from them. Hey, tell me about your story. Tell me how did you start? How did you break in? What kind of shows do you like to write? What inspires you? Pretend like they're a guest on your radio show or your podcast. Interview them. We don't want anything from them. You're just curious to get their story. People will talk.Phil Hudson:Yeah, they definitely will. And when I've gone out and done picketing, it's really interesting. I don't talk to people, I'm just, who are you? Tell me about you. What are you doing here? Why are you here? What are you doing out on the picket line? Cool. Are you in industry? Breaking in the industry? Oh great. Oh, cool. You worked on that show. I love that show. Awesome. And then they ask you questions too, because walking in circles for hoursMichael Jamin:And you're a human being and they're going to make conversation. The conversation will eventually turn around to you and then you can talk about yourself.Phil Hudson:Have you noticed the people who put up their YouTube channel and stuff on flyers on the poles and stuff in the corners?Michael Jamin:No. I have not seen that. I have promoting their own channel.Phil Hudson:It feels a little skeezy to me. Personal. I'mMichael Jamin:Not. The problem is no one's looking at him anyway, so Yeah.Phil Hudson:Yeah, you haven't noticed. And when I see 'em, I'm just like, ah, man's. I don't know. That's the way to do that. You're basically saying, look at me. Look at me. Instead of being there, walking on the picket lines, talking to people and putting in effort to fight for the same things they're fightingMichael Jamin:For. Yeah. You don't have to promote yourself.Phil Hudson:Alright, Norville, scss. Does the strike lead to an increasing demand for scripts?Michael Jamin:Well, when the strike is over, there will be, everyone will flood the market with their scripts and that's just the way it is. SoPhil Hudson:Yeah. Demand, but also supply because all of these writers have time to write.Michael Jamin:Yeah, right.Phil Hudson:Antonia, Roman. Hey, Michael, met you yesterday on the picket. I appreciate your insight. How many script feedback reads should someone actually pay for? Sometimes the feedbacks contradict each other.Michael Jamin:Thanks. Oh, Phil, IPhil Hudson:Know.Michael Jamin:Here we go.Phil Hudson:My purpose. Yeah,Michael Jamin:Many. If you're paying in one of these services and maybe it's like 150 bucks for one of these services, you're going to get who you get who's reading the script other than it's someone who works at the service, they don't know more than you do. They just work there and they're making whatever, 20 bucks an hour or maybe less to read script after script. What's their qualifications beats the hell out of me. Other than the fact that they're working there and they're not industry deciders. They're not like they don't have jobs in SC screenwriting. If they did, they would be doing that. So a service, I'd pay nothing, because that's why you're going to get contradictory feedback. What do they know? They don't know more than you. If you can find a writer with experience, and there are writers who will do this as a freelance thing, check out their credits, go on their I M D B, what have they written? Ask to see their work. What have they read their work? Do you like their work? And if you do, then yes, then your feedback could be valuable. But I would never go through a service.Phil Hudson:Yep. We did talk about this where I sent Michael, I paid for feedback from some of these services on your behalf, listener to the podcast. And then I shared the emails back and forth from them, the reviews as well as when I questioned the validity of the feedback I received from them. I sent Michael those. And I think the feedback from the service was way more infuriatingMichael Jamin:Than the Yeah, it just made you mad. It made you feel like you got ripped off. Hey, it's Michael Jamin. If you like my videos and you want me to email them to you for free, join my watch list. Every Friday I send out my top three videos. These are for writers, actors, creativeTypes. You can unsubscribe whenever you want. I'm not going to spam you and it's absolutely free. Just go to michaeljamin.com/watchlist.Phil Hudson:Awesome. Ruth W should emerging rider approach breaking in differently than before, given the strike, are there any new approaches that should be considered? Thanks?Michael Jamin:I don't think, wait for the strike to end before you think about breaking in, but the landscape has changed so much with social media that you don't need anyone's permission. I just talked about this. You don't need anyone's permission to write and build up your brand. I'm not doing it. I'm not waiting for anyone's permission. I don't know why anybody else would. I have a good podcast guest this week? Well, I dunno when you're going to hear this Mike Sacks, go listen to him. See, he's an author and he talks about that himself. He has sold books to publishers and he's also indie published it himself and he makes a really strong case for just doing it yourself. And he's done both. And he's an editor at Vanity Fair. So the guy knows how to write.Phil Hudson:Yeah, yeah. Also, definitely don't try breaking him right now. They're very clear rules that the writer's guilds come out and said, if you even have meetings with producers, that is an act of crossing a picket line.Michael Jamin:No, I'm not talking to my agent, I'm not talking to producers. I'm not doing any of this. YouPhil Hudson:Mean they will literally forbid you from joining the guild. So any short term win now is basically a nail in the coffin of your career later and as it should be, Susan Mark, when you get the low paying non-union screenwriting gigs over and over, how do you move from that into network shows with four question marks?Michael Jamin:The fact that you're getting these jobs to begin with are great, even if they're non-union. So good for you. I mean, this is where if these movies are doing or shows are doing well and if they're well received and if they're written well, and this is what you show to an agent and you say, here's my body of work and here's a movie I did that it cost 10,000 to make, and the return on it was a hundred thousand. That's impressive. So that's how you can parlay that into bigger opportunities. But the problem is, if you're doing this work and the work isn't coming out good, it still has to be good. It has to be good. And people have, it has to have be one or the other critically well-received or makes a lot of money. It has to be a financial success. One or both. One or the other or both.Phil Hudson:Awesome. Roxanna Black Sea. How do you get over feeling guilty asking a friend or a mentor for a referral and how do you know you're ready and not wasting their time? This is a good one. I might as well wrote this, Michael.Michael Jamin:Well, if you have a friend who's in the industry, I dunno if they're in the industry or not, but you only have one chance to impress them. And if you give them something that's not great, it's a big ask. Hey, sit down and read this. It's going to take them an hour and a half or whatever. And if it's not great, they're not going to want to do it again. They'll do a favor once, but they won't do it again. So there's that. The get over the guilt. Well, if you've giving them a giant gift, you shouldn't feel guilty If it's giving 'em a piece of shit, well, you're going to feel guilty, but you just need to know what it is you're giving them.Phil Hudson:That takes a lot of introspection and a lot of self-analysis. I would also say it takes a lot of practice and study of existing high quality works to compare yourself.Michael Jamin:Yeah, high quality. That's the thing, Phil, if you're watching some crappy TV show and you go, well, I can write a crappy TV show that's not the barPhil Hudson:Crap. Plus one that's been around for since the a o l days crap plus one is I can do one better than that. It's not good enough. Yeah,Michael Jamin:Not good enough.Phil Hudson:Alright, Ruth w again, if you know an established riders working on a new project that you have happen to have particular rare knowledge on, is it appropriate to contact that rider even to work for free? And then there's a follow-up to this.Michael Jamin:Well, if they're on a show and you have particular knowledge, they're not going to let you work for free. You can't work for free. But you can share your knowledge and I don't know, it always, you can share your knowledge, but no one's, you're not allowed to work for free. So I don't know what if they're going to offer you a job or not,Phil Hudson:But is it okay to reach out to them?Michael Jamin:Why not? What's the harm? Yeah.Phil Hudson:I think the benefit of that is you are going in to say, Hey, I saw you're doing this. I happen to be a subject matter expert on that. Anything you want to ask me, I'm happy to go over with you and bring out any insights you want. You are now serving that person. You're not coming in and say, give me a job, give me a job. And you might hop on a zoom with them and have an intro. Now you've got a foot in the door to have an extended conversation as someone, and you've provided value to that person.Michael Jamin:Right. Then you're right. You're not asking for anything in return, but people tend to give things back when people give first.Phil Hudson:Yep. And the follow up question, is it okay to contact an agent to get the contact information for that rider that you would like to help for free?Michael Jamin:So you don't know this person. Yeah, you, the agent's not going to do anything with it. I would doubt they're going to do anything with it. You could reach out to them on LinkedIn, maybe you could tweet that.Phil Hudson:This might be a good time to slide into the dms. Right. And because you're not asking, you're providing valueMichael Jamin:AndPhil Hudson:Expect them not to reply.Michael Jamin:Right. Expect 'em not to reply. And it's because you, maybe they get too many solicitations or maybe it's just they find it weird. It's worth a shot.Phil Hudson:It also might just be that they don't have time to look at their social media, which is very real. Don't read into it. Just shoot your shot. Move on.Michael Jamin:Yeah, right. Don't wait. Don't hold your breath. Shoot your shot and keep shooting your shot. Keep working on yourself. Yep.Phil Hudson:Genova, is there anything we need to be wary of when approaching smaller agencies with our scripts so we don't get screwed?Michael Jamin:Well, the agencies, first of all, don't approach any agency that's going to charge you for to represent you. That's no legit agents work on commission. Now the big ones are not going to represent you. You have to reach out to smaller ones who are soliciting clients. I wouldn't expect an agent to, I wouldn't expect them to rip you off. That's not what they do. They're going to represent you and try to sell you. The agents are not producers, they're not screenwriters. So to me it's safe. But again, I don't give legal advice if you have to do what's comfortable for you personally, I don't worry about that. That's not something I worry about.Phil Hudson:And you started at a smaller agency that some could say screwed you, but I don't know that you see it that way, right? Because you got hip pocketed basically as a baby writer.Michael Jamin:They didn't screw me, they just didn't do anything.Phil Hudson:That's saying they didn't screw you. But some people might say they screwed you because they didn't do anything.Michael Jamin:Oh yeah. But they didn't steal anything from me. They just didn't help my career any.Phil Hudson:Yeah, and we talked about that in some of the early podcasts. If you want to go back and listen to those. I think it was the agents and manager episode is like episode five or something.Michael Jamin:SoPhil Hudson:95 something episodes ago. It'sMichael Jamin:Great. Yeah. You remember this stuff.Phil Hudson:Shem L. Do you think New York and LA are still the places to make it?Michael Jamin:No. I think LA is the place to make it. Take New York off the list. Where is Hollywood? This is a trivia question. Find it on the map. Hint, it's in Los Angeles. I understand that some television production or film production is done in New York. Some Where's the writing done? The writing's done in la. Same thing with Georgia or New Mexico. Sometimes they shoot things there for tax breaks, but the writing is almost always done in LA and even if some writing is done in these smaller cities, okay, fine, maybe you'll get incredibly lucky, but you're not going to be able to sustain a career there. The career's here, that's how I feel.Phil Hudson:All right. And Jill Hargrave. I'm a senior writer, 76 years old, transition from decades as a documentary producer to screenwriter. I have an agent and I'm in the news division with the W G A East. Any advice on how to get read by execs?Michael Jamin:I'm looking for, so she's a news writer.Phil Hudson:Sounds like she's a writer in the news division for the W G A East. She has decades of experience being a producer in documentary film. She has an agent advice on how to get executives to read your stuff.Michael Jamin:Sorry. Yeah, so you're in the same boat as everyone else. I don't think you got a leg up. You sound like you're very competent news producer, but you might as well be an orthodontist. It's a different kind of writing, but shePhil Hudson:Has an agent.Michael Jamin:Ask your agent. I suspect your agent's not going to give a crap. Your agent is able to get you news jobs. That's what you are and that's what you bring value to them. But they're not interested in you starting your career over from zero. My friend Rob Cohen talked about this in one of our podcasts. He was a very successful sitcom writer, wrote on a bunch of shows including The Simpsons, including Just Shoot Me where I was on maybe 20 or so years into his career as a TV writer, very successful TV writer. I ran into him and he's like, I want to be a director now. I want to direct TV and film. I thought, well, how are you going to do that? He goes, I don't know, but I'm going to make it happen. I said, well, is your agent helping you at all?No, the agent's not going to help me one bit, even though he's a successful TV writer because it's a different thing. It's directing. They don't want to sell 'em as that. They can sell 'em as a TV writer, but not as a director. So unfortunately, you're going to have to start over. You milk whatever context you have. Maybe your agent can set you up with a referral with another agent at their agency that they should be able to do. But at the end of the day, you unfortunately have to make your career. They're not going to make your career for youPhil Hudson:If they have an agent because they have some screenplay sample that they've submitted. My guess would be that that's when your agent would show those. When we're not on a strike, they'd take your samples and try to sell those things to people that get you staffed and they're going to do that job for you. But it sounds like through the question that you're right, Michael, that's not a writing agent in this space. It's documented or a new set,Michael Jamin:But talk to them, maybe get some tips. I mean, again, I've tried to do the same thing myself. My agents, I have big agents and manager. They don't give a crap unless I can make money for them today in my field. They don't really care.Phil Hudson:Yeah. Awesome. Ruth w this is miscellaneous. I've got three more questions here. Excuse me for, is there any value in getting an entertainment lawyer? Does this confer any legitimacy when trying to get people to read your script? Or is it just a waste of money and Yeah, there's some follow-up to this. We'll get to that.Michael Jamin:So no, an entertainment attorney is the best money I spend. My attorney takes 5% of all the deals that I make and they help negotiate these deals. Money well spent, but it's only when I'm negotiating a deal, that's when they get paid. They get a commission. I would never pay an entertainment attorney upfront. It doesn't help you make a deal. It doesn't help you look more important. You're just going to pay them a lot of money out of pocket for no reason. Attorneys are there to help you negotiate the deal and read the fine print so you don't get screwed. That's what they help you do, but you don't pay one upfront for any. As far as I know, I would never pay one upfront.Phil Hudson:I've had two in my career and the first one didn't do a lot. This one, and we worked with him on some stuff today, actually. You and I were going over some tree mark stuff with him. But anyway, he is great and he comes at it from the perspective of that, which is, my job is to protect you and I can be the bad guy. I can go fight the fight for you to get you what you want. And you can say, Hey man, that's just what my lawyer does. You're going to have to take that up with my attorney. And we talked in the podcast about this recent experience I had where he wrote this contract and the guy signed it and he ended up protecting my butt because he put a clause in that said nothing was executable until it was paid. Money was delivered.And so because this guy never exchanged money, he only talked about exchanging money. I'm not obligated to do anything for this guy. And had I walked into that, I probably would've just signed something and not had the foresight to have that. He also had it paid in steps. So above and beyond the WJ minimums, he structured it. So I'd get paid more money upfront like you want money in your pocket? And he deals with Sony and major country musicians. He's a real proper entertainment attorney. Incredibly valuable. And it looks like he answered honestly the question, what's the difference between an agent who's going to get 10%? What's a lawyer do? What's the difference? And the answer is the agent basically books the deal. The attorney gets you the most money they can out of that deal,Michael Jamin:And the agent's not going to read the contract. They don't read contract. They're not lawyers. They don't deal with that. So you need an attorney.Phil Hudson:Love it. Goddard Fin, any insight on getting a preliminary budget done by someone or a company like Mike Binder's, budget company? I'm assuming is this for an indie project?Michael Jamin:I never heard of that and I wouldn't know.Phil Hudson:Or it's a preliminary budget on a script.Michael Jamin:I thought he was an actor. Michael Binder. I thought he was an actor. I don't even know. I've never even heard of this, so I can't even answer.Phil Hudson:My feeling is, from what I understand from this question is there's zero value added to your script when you go to pitch your story by telling them, this is the budget I got for thisMichael Jamin:For somebody. No, they'll tell you the budget if that's what that is. It's interesting. Yeah. I thought maybe this is for indies. No, when you saw the MoVI, they'll tell you what the budget is. It is their money. You don't tell them what the budget is. They tell you.Phil Hudson:And the answer is in the indie film, if it is, that is you're going to scrounge with every dollar you can get, and then you're going to make what you can with the budget you got. And that's what a line producer does for you. And they basically manage the contracts and make sure your people get paid. And you don't go over budget and you can finish your project and they'll tell you, Hey, you can't do that. You don't have the money to do that.Michael Jamin:Right.Phil Hudson:Cool. Ruth w with another, one of the reasons I am reticent to fill my own stuff is because I don't have any money to pay actors. Is it okay to ask them to work for free?Michael Jamin:You can often, actors will do this just to have tape so that they can submit themselves. But the work has to be good. You're not going to, the better the script is, the easier it is to attract actors and better actors. And if it's a great script, they'll fall over themselves for to do this. So you ask them to do it for free. Definitely. You don't want to abuse them. You want to make sure, buy them pizza, buy them lunch, make sure there's water on set. Take care of them. That's the least you can do.Phil Hudson:Yeah. And people will absolutely do that. There's also, if you're a student, you can also look into sag, SAG after student agreements, which probably you might even still be able to do that during the strike. It's not really a paid project, but they have agreements that you can work with SAG qualified actors and you have to abide by those terms if they are a SAG actor. But you can get them in your projects I did in film school.Michael Jamin:Right. Okay.Phil Hudson:Last question. As a showrunner, do you direct episodes two or just focus on running the showMichael Jamin:As a showrunner? I have, but I'm not in animation. I direct the actors for sure to get the performances out of them. But in live action, I've only directed one. That's not my job. But my job is to be on set and to make sure I'm getting the shots that I want and to get the performances that I want. Ultimately in film, I'm sorry, tv, the director works for the showrunner. So on tv, the showrunner's in charge, in film the other way around, it's the director's in charge. The writer is nothing. So does that answer your question? I think it does. Yeah.Phil Hudson:I think it just for you specifically, what do you do? But I do know showrunners who do direct on Taco fd. Yeah, Kevin. Kevin and Steve. They split 'em up and they direct certain episodes. They also,Michael Jamin:Those guys are tireless.Phil Hudson:Tireless. Yeah. I dunno how they do. I toured with them for a press tour and I was exhausted and they were just still going and happy to go. And I get emails from 'em at two, three in the morning and they're just going, ohMichael Jamin:God.Phil Hudson:Oh God. But that's how they made their career. I mean, this just ties it all together for Michael. Make it happen. Put in the effort. Those guys made their own things happen. They have shows their names and you know 'em because they put in the work. Had they not done that, they wouldn't be anywhere.Michael Jamin:Yeah.Phil Hudson:Cool. Michael, anything else you want to add?Michael Jamin:That's it. We did it, Phil. Yeah, we did it.Phil Hudson:So things people need to know. Michael, you got tons of free stuff. You talked about free samples of work, of writing.Michael Jamin:Yeah, I do free work too. I do free work here. We got a lot of free stuff we give away anyway on my website. If you go to michaeljamin.com, you can get sample scripts that I've written. You can get a free lesson that I've planned about story. You can sign up for my free webinars, which are every three weeks, which Phil helps me out with. You can come see me tour on one of my book drops, a paper orchestra. You can sign up for all of that and much, much more. And also, of course we have a course but that you got to pay for. But you know what it's worth. Every penny.Phil Hudson:Yeah, that's right. And again, get a discount when you come to the webinar.Michael Jamin:Nice. Nice discount. Don't tell anyone.Phil Hudson:And you could win a free access.Michael Jamin:Oh, you can win it. Yeah, you can win it.Phil Hudson:Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. Michael, thank you so much. Oh,Michael Jamin:And my newsletter. Phil, you can get on my free newsletter. I got that. Always forgetPhil Hudson:That. We also forget that that list is 30,000 deep or something like that right now. That's a good lists of people. That and industry, double industry open rates. People really like that list, that content.Michael Jamin:Yeah. The people like that. So sign up for my list.Phil Hudson:Be like the masses, be sheep. People join us.Michael Jamin:Okay, everyone, thank you so much. Until next week. Keep writing, right, Phil, fill that up.Phil Hudson:That is Wright, w r i t e. Right.Michael Jamin:Okay. Alright. Thanks guys.Phil Hudson:This has been an episode of Screenwriters Need to Hear this with Michael Jamin and Phil Hudson. If you're interested in learning more about writing, make sure you register for Michael's monthly webinar@michaeljamin.com/webinar. If you found this podcast helpful, consider sharing it with a friend and leaving us a five star review on iTunes. For free screenwriting tips, follow Michael Jamin on social media @Michael Jaminwriter. You can follow Phil Hudson on social media @PhilaHudson. This podcast was produced by Phil Hudson. It was edited by Dallas Crane Music, by Ken Joseph. Until next time, keep writing.

WJ visits with Barbara to talk about her experiences in the air and on the ground. Little flashes, UFOs and MIB all take part in her stories.

Things Discussed: NIL vs "NIL": Why is the NCAA trying to fight states? Who's writing the laws? Do they have any chance? Nope. NCAA is probably trying to scare other ADs away from joining the race to make the most anti-NCAA public policy. What should the NCAA be fighting for at this point? They have to go to class, they have to graduate. NCAA isn't going to do anything; being careful about following rules they're not taking seriously is useless. They can't even punish schools anymore because they're not going to take away postseasons (they don't want to) and scholarship limits don't matter with NIL. What's M Power: The answer to the problem that Michigan has a lot of collectives. NIL vs "NIL" pt 2. Michigan is actually doing well at NIL because they had to come at this from a new perspective, whereas cheaters like Ohio State and Notre Dame already had processes developed when it was all illegal. Michigan is way behind on "NIL" but are finally addressing it, writing a new law in Michigan and having Harbaugh drive it with M Power. Beer in Michigan Stadium? Games are so slow today that you might as well. Not going to be a big deal. Hail to the Roundtable segment: Is beating OSU sustainable? Michigan has a good thing going right now, long term Ohio State will get better talent. The last two years OSU only produced two 1st rounders on defense, and didn't have the horses to beat Michigan at the main thing we wanted to do. What does the Sherrone Moore offense look like? Two tight ends and/or two RBs because they can get Loveland and Edwards matched against linebackers. There's no answer to that: if you have a hybrid LB he'll get crushed by Michigan's power running attack. Find a weakness on this team other than injuries to JJ or WJ? Can't. Maybe kicking.

Cliff Barackman and James "Bobo" Fay speak with author and podcaster WJ Sheehan! WJ has been collecting sasquatch encounter stories for many years. His books and podcasts are called Bigfoot: Terror in the Woods, and he's here to share some stories and insights with our audience! Learn more about WJ's work here: https://www.bigfootterrorinthewoods.comGet $100 off your first six-session program today at Mindbloom.com/bigfoot, promo code bigfoot.See the map that WJ refers to here: https://youtu.be/UOvn4GSiVB0Sign up for our weekly bonus podcast "Beyond Bigfoot & Beyond" here: https://www.patreon.com/bigfootandbeyondpodcastGet official "Bigfoot & Beyond with Cliff & Bobo" merchandise here: https://sasquatchprints.com/bigfoot-and-beyond-merch/

In today's episode WJ and KJ, deliver another podcast of high strangeness. In crypids in the news and other oddities, KJ reviews the legend of Leprechauns. Bill covers a creepy encounter from the hot bed of Kootenai National forest from some Elk Hunters. And some great listener mail. Please join us! Thank you for listening! www.bigfootterrorinthewoods.com Produced by: "Bigfoot Terror in the Woods L.L.C."

In today's episode WJ and KJ, deliver another podcast of high strangeness. In crypids in the news and other oddities, KJ reviews the legend of Leshy. Bill covers a creepy encounter with from some wild hog hunters in Southern Texas. And some great listener mail. Please join us! Thank you for listening! www.bigfootterrorinthewoods.com Produced by: "Bigfoot Terror in the Woods L.L.C."

In today's episode WJ and KJ, deliver another podcast of high strangeness. In crypids in the news and other oddities, KJ reviews a recent news story related to the president of Mexico tweeting a picture of a Tree Elf. Bill covers a creepy encounter with an ape like bigfoot in Pennsylvania. And some great listener mail. Please join us! Thank you for listening! www.bigfootterrorinthewoods.com Produced by: "Bigfoot Terror in the Woods L.L.C."

In today's episode WJ and KJ, deliver another podcast of high strangeness. In crypids in the news and other oddities, KJ reviews the famous mass UFO sighting know as the "Phoenix Lights". Bill covers a creepy Bigfoot encounter by a pair of female hikers in Rocky Mountain National Park near Shadow Mountain. And some great listener mail. Please join us! Thank you for listening! www.bigfootterrorinthewoods.com Produced by: "Bigfoot Terror in the Woods L.L.C."

In today's episode WJ and KJ, deliver another podcast of high strangeness. In crypids in the news and other oddities, KJ reviews all of the crazy stuff in the news around Chinese spy balloons over the United States. Bill covers a creepy Bigfoot encounter during a family hiking and camping trip near Olive Lake in Oregon. And some great listener mail. Please join us! Thank you for listening! www.bigfootterrorinthewoods.com Produced by: "Bigfoot Terror in the Woods L.L.C."

In today's episode WJ and KJ, deliver another podcast of high strangeness. In crypids in the news and other oddities, KJ reviews a published account of a "WildMan" encounter from Maine in 1885. Bill covers a fishing party from Ontario Canada that witnesses two giant Bigfoot fighting in front of them on a river bank. And some great listener mail. Please join us! Thank you for listening! www.bigfootterrorinthewoods.com Produced by: "Bigfoot Terror in the Woods L.L.C."

In today's episode WJ and KJ, deliver another podcast of high strangeness. In crypids in the news and other oddities, KJ covers treasure mysteries surrounding Mt. Victorio in New Mexico. Bill covers a Bigfoot encounter from the 1950s in southern Utah where a deer hunter witnesses a 10 foot tall Hairyman chasing a deer at a full sprint. And some great listener mail. Please join us! Thank you for listening! www.bigfootterrorinthewoods.com Produced by: "Bigfoot Terror in the Woods L.L.C."

In today's episode WJ and KJ, deliver another podcast of high strangeness. In crypids in the news and other oddities, KJ covers the mysterious Mantell UFO incident from 1948 in Franklin Kentucky. Bill covers a bigfoot encounter from by a man hunting for rabbits that dates back to 1965. And some great listener mail. Please join us! Thank you for listening! www.bigfootterrorinthewoods.com Produced by: "Bigfoot Terror in the Woods L.L.C."

In today's episode WJ and KJ, deliver another podcast of high strangeness. In crypids in the news and other oddities, KJ covers the Night Marchers of Hawaiian legend. Bill covers a bigfoot encounter from Missouri where a woman believes that she shot a giant bigfoot that was outside of her back door. And some great listener mail. Please join us! Thank you for listening! www.bigfootterrorinthewoods.com Produced by: "Bigfoot Terror in the Woods L.L.C."

In today's episode WJ and KJ, deliver another podcast of high strangeness. In crypids in the news and other oddities, KJ covers freaky legend of the Gashadokuro from Japan . Bill covers a bigfoot encounter from some MoonShiners in West Virginia during the 1970s. And some great listener mail. Please join us! Thank you for listening! www.bigfootterrorinthewoods.com Produced by: "Bigfoot Terror in the Woods L.L.C."

In today's episode WJ and KJ, deliver another podcast of high strangeness. In crypids in the news and other oddities, KJ covers the creepy legend of the Owlman from Cornish in the United Kingdom. Bill covers a very scary Bigfoot encounter from a bear hunter in the pacific northwest of the US. And some great listener mail. Please join us! Thank you for listening! www.bigfootterrorinthewoods.com Produced by: "Bigfoot Terror in the Woods L.L.C."

In today's episode WJ and KJ, deliver another podcast of high strangeness. KJ reads his cryptid adaptation of Twas the Night Before Christmas, and reviews the ghoulish Christmas tradition of Krampus. And the account covers a violent encounter with a Hairy Man. Bill covers an interesting Bigfoot account from Oregon from some folks hunting for treasure from Sir Francis Scott Drake. And some great listener mail. Please join us! Thank you for listening! www.bigfootterrorinthewoods.com Produced by: "Bigfoot Terror in the Woods L.L.C."

In today's episode WJ and KJ, deliver another podcast of high strangeness. KJ covers a series of written accounts of the Arkansas Wildman from the 1800s. And the account covers a violent encounter with a Hairy Man. Bill covers an interesting evidentiary account of a Bigfoot sighting from some outdoorsman near Mount Ranier in Washington state, that includes the disappearance of one of the outdoorsman. And some great listener mail. Please join us! Thank you for listening! www.bigfootterrorinthewoods.com Produced by: "Bigfoot Terror in the Woods L.L.C."

In today's episode WJ and KJ, deliver another podcast of high strangeness. KJ covers a written newspaper account from 129 years ago from Australia. And the account covers a violent encounter with a Hairy Man. Bill covers an interesting evidentiary account of Sasquatch from some survivalists in Alaska. And some great listener mail. Please join us! Thank you for listening! www.bigfootterrorinthewoods.com Produced by: "Bigfoot Terror in the Woods L.L.C."

In today's episode WJ and KJ, deliver another podcast of high strangeness. KJ covers a written newspaper account from 129 years ago from Australia. And the account covers a violent encounter with a Hairy Man. Bill covers an interesting evidentiary account of Sasquatch from some survivalists in Alaska. And some great listener mail. Please join us! Thank you for listening! www.bigfootterrorinthewoods.com Produced by: "Bigfoot Terror in the Woods L.L.C."

In today's episode WJ and KJ, deliver another podcast of high strangeness. KJ covers several accounts related to the Agogwe creatures in East Aftrica. Bill covers an interesting historic tale from a journal of a pioneer from the 1800s in Oregon of some horrific bigfoot sightings. And some great listener mail. Please join us! Thank you for listening! www.bigfootterrorinthewoods.com Produced by: "Bigfoot Terror in the Woods L.L.C."

In today's episode WJ and KJ, deliver another podcast of high strangeness. KJ covers several accounts related to the Agogwe creatures in East Aftrica. Bill covers an interesting historic tale from a journal of a pioneer from the 1800s in Oregon of some horrific bigfoot sightings. And some great listener mail. Please join us! Thank you for listening! www.bigfootterrorinthewoods.com Produced by: "Bigfoot Terror in the Woods L.L.C."

In today's episode WJ and KJ, deliver another podcast of high strangeness. KJ covers some of the brutal history of the US Thanksgiving Holiday. Bill covers an interesting historic tale of a brutal hairy man encounter passed on from a grandfather to grandson. And some great listener mail. Please join us! Thank you for listening! www.bigfootterrorinthewoods.com Produced by: "Bigfoot Terror in the Woods L.L.C."