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Join us for a conversation on EFS with Kyle Claunch, Associate Professor of Christian Theology at the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. Detailed Analytical Outline: "Everything You Need to Know About EFS and The Trinity | Kyle Claunch | #100" This outline structures the podcast episode chronologically by timestamp, providing a summary of content, key theological arguments, analytical insights (e.g., strengths of positions, biblical/theological connections, and implications for Trinitarian doctrine), and notable quotes. The discussion centers on Eternal Functional Submission (EFS, also termed Eternal Submission of the Son [ESS] or Eternal Relations of Authority and Submission [ERAS]), its biblical basis, critiques, and broader Trinitarian implications. Host Sean Demars interviews Kyle Claunch, a theologian offering a non-EFS perspective rooted in classical Trinitarianism (e.g., Augustine, Athanasius). The tone is conversational, humble, and worship-oriented, emphasizing the doctrine's gravity (per Augustine: "Nowhere else is a mistake more dangerous"). Introduction and Setup (00:10–01:48) Content Summary: Episode opens with music and host introduction. Sean Demars welcomes first-time guest Kyle Claunch (noting a prior unreleased recording). Light banter references mutual acquaintance Jim Hamilton (a repeat guest) and a breakfast discussion on Song of Solomon. Transition to topic: the Trinity, with humorous acknowledgment of its complexity. Key Points: Shoutout to Hamilton as the "three-timer" on the show; playful goal of featuring Kenwood elders repeatedly. Tease of future episodes on Song of Solomon, Ecclesiastes, Psalms. Analytical Insights: Establishes relational warmth and insider Reformed/Baptist context (e.g., Kenwood Baptist Church ties). Frames Trinity discussion as high-stakes yet accessible, aligning with podcast's "Room for Nuance" ethos—nuanced, non-polemical engagement. Implications: Builds trust for dense theology, reminding listeners of communal discipleship. Notable Quote: "Nothing better to talk about... Nowhere else is a mistake more dangerous, Augustine says about the doctrine of the trinity." (01:33) Opening Prayer (01:48–02:29) Content Summary: Claunch prays for accurate representation of God, protection from error, and edification of listeners (believers to worship, unbelievers to Christ). Key Points: Gratitude for knowing God as Father through Son by Spirit; plea for words and meditations to be acceptable (Psalm 19:14 echo). Analytical Insights: Models Trinitarian piety—prayer invokes all persons, underscoring episode's theme of relational unity over hierarchical submission. Strengthens devotional framing, countering potential abstraction in doctrine. Notable Quote: "May the saints who hear this be drawn to worship. May those that don't know you be drawn to want to know you through your son Jesus." (02:07–02:29) Interview Origin and Personal Context (02:29–04:18) Content Summary: Demars recounts how Hamilton recommended Claunch as a counterpoint to Owen Strawn's EFS views (from a prior episode on theological retrieval). Demars shares his wavering stance on EFS (initial acceptance, rejection, ambivalence—like amillennialism) and seeks Claunch's help to "land" biblically. Key Points: EFS as a debated topic in evangelical circles; Claunch's approach ties to retrieval. Demars' vulnerability: Desire for settled conviction on God's self-revelation. Analytical Insights: Highlights EFS debate's live-wire status in Reformed theology (post-2016 surge via Ware, Grudem). Demars' "help me land" plea humanizes the host, inviting listeners into personal theological pilgrimage. Implication: Doctrine as transformative, not merely academic—echoes Augustine's "discovery more advantageous" (later referenced). Notable Quote: "Part of this is really just being like dear brother Kyle help me like land where I need to land on this." (03:53) Defining EFS/ESS/ERAS (04:18–07:01) Content Summary: Claunch defines terms: EFS (eternal functional submission of Son/Spirit to Father per divine nature); ESS (eternal submission of Son); ERAS (eternal relations of authority/submission, per Ware). Contrasts with incarnational obedience (uncontroversial for creatures). Key Points: Eternal (contra-temporal, constitutive of God's life); not limited to human nature. Biblical focus on Son, but extends to Spirit; relations as "godness of God" (Father-Son-Spirit distinctions). Analytical Insights: Clarifies nomenclature's evolution (avoiding "subordinationism" heresy). Strength: Steel-mans EFS as biblically motivated, not cultural. Weakness: Risks blurring persons' equality if submission is essential. Connects to classical taxonomy (one essence, three persons via relations). Notable Quote: "This relation of authority and submission then is internal to the very life of God and as such is constitutive of what it means for God to be God." (06:36) Biblical Texts for EFS: Steel-Manning Arguments (07:01–14:34) Content Summary: Claunch lists key texts EFS advocates use, steel-manning sympathetically. John 6:38 (07:35): Son came "not to do my own will, but the will of him who sent me"—roots in pre-incarnate motive. Sending Language (09:04): Father sends Son (never reverse); implies authority-obedience. Father-Son Names (09:43): Eternal sonship entails biblical patriarchal authority. 1 Cor 11:3 (10:04): "God [Father] is the head of Christ"—parallels man-woman headship (authority symbol). 1 Cor 15:24–28 (13:13): Future subjection of Son to Father ("eternity future" implies past). Key Points: EFS holders (e.g., Ware, Grudem—Claunch's friends/mentor) prioritize Scripture; not anti-Trinitarian. Analytical Insights: Effective charity—affirms motives (biblicism) while previewing critiques. Texts highlight economic Trinity (missions reveal immanent relations). Implication: If valid, EFS grounds complementarity in creation (e.g., gender roles via 1 Cor 11). But risks Arianism echoes if submission essentializes inequality. Notable Quote: "They believe this because they are convinced that this is what the Bible teaches... It's a genuine desire to believe what the Bible says." (14:15) Critiquing EFS Texts: Governing Principles (14:52–19:02) Content Summary: Claunch introduces "form of God/form of servant" rule (Augustine, Phil 2:6–8) and unity of God (one essence, attributes, acts). Applies to texts, emphasizing incarnation. John 6:38 (15:11): Incarnational (Son assumes human will to obey as Last Adam); "not my own will" implies distinct (human-divine) wills, not eternal submission. Compares to Gethsemane (Lk 22:42), Phil 2 (obedience as "became," not eternal), Heb 5:8 (learns obedience via suffering). Key Points: Obedience creaturely (Adam failed, Christ succeeds); EFS demands discrete divine wills, contradicting one will/power (inseparable operations). Analytical Insights: Augustinian rule shines—resolves tensions without modalism/Arianism. Strength: Harmonizes canon (analogy of Scripture). Implication: Protects active obedience's soteriological role (imputed righteousness). Weakness in EFS: Overlooks hypostatic union's permanence. Notable Quote: "Obedience is something he became, not something he was." (35:15) Inseparable Operations and Unity (19:02–28:18) Content Summary: One God = one almighty/omniscient/will (Athanasian Creed); external acts (ad extra) undivided (e.g., creation, resurrection appropriated to persons but shared). EFS's "distinct enactment" incoherent—submission requires discrete wills, implying polytheism. Submission entails disagreement possibility, undermining unity. Key Points: Appropriation (e.g., Father elects, but all persons do); one will upstream from texts. Analytical Insights: Core classical rebuttal—echoes Cappadocians vs. Arius (one ousia, three hypostases). Strength: Biblical (e.g., Jn 1 creation triad). Implication: Safeguards monotheism; critiques social Trinitarianism/EFS as quasi-polytheistic. Ties to procession (relations without hierarchy). Notable Quote: "If God's knowledge and mind understanding will is all one then the very idea... that you could have one divine person... have authority and the other... not have the same authority... Seems to be a category mistake." (24:41–25:14) Further Critiques: Sending, Headship, Future Submission (28:18–50:07) Content Summary: Sending (42:30): Not command (Aquinas/Augustine); missions reveal processions (eternal generation), not authority (analogical, e.g., adult "sending" without hierarchy). 1 Cor 11:3 (46:34): Incarnational (Christ as mediator); underdetermined text, informed by whole Scripture. 1 Cor 15 (48:10): Post-resurrection = ongoing hypostatic union (God-man forever submits as creature). Spirit's "Obedience" (49:26): No biblical texts; EFS extension illogical (Spirit unincarnate). Jn 16:13 ("not... on his own authority") mistranslates—Greek "from himself" denotes procession, not submission (parallels Jn 5:19–26 on Son's generation). Key Points: Obedience emphasis on Son's humanity for redemption; Spirit's mission unified (takes Father's/Son's). Analytical Insights: Devastating on Spirit—exposes EFS asymmetry. Strength: Exegetical precision (Greek apo heautou). Implication: EFS risks divinizing hierarchy over equality; retrieval favors Nicene grammar. Notable Quote: "There's not one single biblical text that uses the language of authority, submission, obedience in relation to the spirit." (50:07) Processions, Personhood, and Retrieval Tease (50:07–1:10:04) Content Summary: Persons = rational subsistences (Boethius); distinction via relations/processions (Father unbegotten, Son generated, Spirit spirated—not three wills/agents). Demars probes: Processions define persons (Son from Father, Spirit from both?). Claunch: Analogical, not creaturely autonomy. Teases retrieval discussion for future episode. Key Points: Creator-creature distinction; via eminentia/negativa for terms like "person." God unlike us—worship response to mystery. Analytical Insights: Clarifies hypostases vs. prosopa; counters social Trinitarianism. Strength: Humility amid density ("take your sandals off"). Implication: EFS confuses economic/immanent Trinity; retrieval recovers Nicene subtlety vs. modern individualism. Notable Quote: "The distinction is in the relation only... The ground of personhood is the divine nature." (1:03:07–1:03:32) Eschatological Reflection and Heaven (1:10:04–1:13:39) Content Summary: Demars: Perpetual learning in heaven? Claunch: Infinite expansion (Edwards' analogy—expanding vessel in God's love); Augustine: Laborious but advantageous pursuit. Key Points: Glorified knowledge joyful, finite yet ever-growing; press on (Hos 4:6). Analytical Insights: Pastoral pivot—doctrine doxological, not despairing. Ties to episode's awe: Trinity as eternal discovery. Notable Quote: "Nowhere else is a mistake more dangerous or the task more laborious or the discovery more advantageous." (1:13:11) Rapid-Fire Q&A (1:13:55–1:20:14) Content Summary: Fun segment: Favorites (24, Spurgeon/Piper sermons, Tolkien, It's a Wonderful Life, mountains, wine, licorice hate, fly, morning person, etc.). Ends with straw holes trick (one). Key Points: Reveals Claunch's tastes (e.g., Owen's works as "systematic theology," "Immortal, Invisible" hymn for funeral—mortality vs. God's eternity). Analytical Insights: Humanizes expert; hymn choice reinforces theme (Psalm 90 echo). Lightens load post-depth. Closing Prayer (1:20:14–1:21:04) Content Summary: Demars thanks God for Claunch's clarity; prays for his influence in church/academy. Key Points: Blessing for edification, glory. Analytical Insights: Bookends with prayer—Trinitarian focus implicit. Overall Analytical Themes: Claunch's non-EFS view upholds Nicene equality via processions/operations, critiquing EFS as well-intentioned but incoherent (risks subordinationism). Episode excels in balance: exegetical rigor, historical retrieval (Augustine/Aquinas/Owen), pastoral warmth. Implications: Bolsters complementarianism without Trinitarian cost; urges humility in mystery. Ideal for theology students/pastors navigating debates.
Title: The Qualifications for DeaconsPreacher: Jim HamiltonSeries: 1 TimothyPassage: 1 Timothy 3:8–13
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Title: Humbled and ExaltedPreacher: Jim HamiltonPassage: Philippians 2:5–11
Title: The Image of the Invisible GodPreacher: Jim HamiltonPassage: Colossians 1:15–20
This week on the Fozcast, we've teamed up with The Rugby Pod for a massive crossover episode featuring Jim Hamilton, Andy Goode, and Dan Biggar!
In this episode of One in Ten, host Teresa Huizar engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Dr. Jim Hamilton, an associate professor adjunct at Yale School of Medicine, on the topic of medical child abuse. They explore the complexities of why caregivers might fabricate illnesses in their children, the significant discrepancies that pediatricians should look for, and the systemic issues that enable this form of abuse. Dr. Hamilton shares insights from his experience and research, including an innovative study using school nurses to understand the prevalence and detection of medical child abuse. The episode underscores the importance of early intervention, compassionate care, and preventing the escalation of such cases to protect children and support families. Time Topic 00:00 Introduction to Medical Child Abuse 01:21 Dr. Jim Hamilton's Journey into Medical Deception 04:19 Understanding Medical Child Abuse 06:33 Indicators and Evidence of Medical Child Abuse 09:52 The Role of Healthcare Professionals 12:02 Complexities in Diagnosing Medical Child Abuse 17:22 Systemic Issues and Parental Influence 25:10 Legal Challenges and Case Studies 26:14 The Chilling Reality of Medical Child Abuse 27:16 Prevalence and Study Design Insights 27:52 Understanding Medical Child Abuse: Rare or Not? 31:15 The Role of School Nurses in Identifying Abuse 36:04 Study Findings and Surprising Results 43:00 The Importance of Early Intervention and Compassion 51:40 Final Thoughts and Future Directions ResourcesPrevalence of Suspected Medical Child Abuse in the School Setting: A Study of School Nurses - PubMedSupport the showDid you like this episode? Please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts.
Title: Women Who Profess GodlinessPreacher: Jim HamiltonSeries: 1 TimothyPassage: 1 Timothy 2:9-15
Join us for a conversation with Jim Hamilton, Professor at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and Harry Potter literary expert. Should Christians avoid Harry Potter? Is It Evil? Satanic?
In part three of a series on the four major views of Romans 9-11, Caleb is joined by Richard Lucas (PhD, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) Pastor of Teaching and Reaching at First Baptist Church Jacksonville, Florida to answer this question: How will "All Israel" be saved in Romans 11:26? ResourcesHow Will “All Israel” Be Saved in Romans 11:26? (Part 1 and 2) by Richard LucasRichard Lucas' Chapter on Romans 11 in Progressive Covenantalism: Charting a Course between Dispensational and Covenantal Theologies Was Paul Prooftexting? Paul's Use of the Old Testament as Illustrated through Three Debated Texts by Richard LucasRomans by Tom SchreinerFred Zaspel and Jim Hamilton's Chapter in: Three Views on Israel and the Church: Perspectives on Romans 9–11The Letter to the Romans by Doug Moo
Title: The Men Should PrayPreacher: Jim HamiltonSeries: 1 TimothyPassage: 1 Timothy 2:1-8
In the second part of Andrea's rebuttal to The Preventionist, Serial Productions' podcast on child abuse pediatrician Dr. Debra Jenssen, she speaks with Dr. Jim Hamilton, a leading expert on Munchausen by proxy. They break down how prevalence statistics are misused, what The Preventionist gets wrong, and why leaving out key details—like the Steltz' teenage son coming forward and emancipating himself—is so damaging. Ultimately, the episode asks what it means when the media gives a platform to alleged abusers while erasing survivors. *** Tickets for Nobody Should Believe Me LIVE: https://www.andreadunlop.net/nobody-should-believe-me-live Order Andrea's book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you're listening and helps us keep making the show! Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop Buy Andrea's books here. For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children's MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Title: Fight the Good FightPreacher: Jim HamiltonSeries: 1 TimothyPassage: 1 Timothy 1:18–20
Title: Christ Jesus Came to Save SinnersPreacher: Jim HamiltonSeries: 1 TimothyPassage: 1 Timothy 1:12-17
Title: The Stewardship from God That Is by FaithPreacher: Jim HamiltonSeries: 1 TimothyPassage: 1 Timothy 1:1–11
Title: God's Will for Your LifePreacher: Jim HamiltonSeries: I ThessaloniansPassage: 1 Thessalonians 5:12-28
In this episode, Caleb is joined by Jim Hamilton (PhD, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) Senior Pastor of Kenwood Baptist Church and Professor of Biblical Theology at Southern Seminary to discuss Historic Premillennialism. This is the first installment of a three week miniseries on the various reformed millennial views.Resources:Revisiting The Millennium: An Evening of Eschatology by the Kenwood InstituteRevelation: The Spirit Speaks to the Churches by Jim HamiltonWith the Clouds of Heaven: The Book of Daniel in Biblical Theology by Jim HamiltonRevelation by Tom SchreinerThe Meaning of the Millennium: Four Views edited by Robert Clouse
Title: We Belong to the DayPreacher: Jim HamiltonSeries: 1 ThessaloniansPassage: 1 Thessalonians 5:1-11
Dr. Jim Hamilton shares his journey as a biblical scholar and writer, discussing the importance of gratitude, mentorship, and early influences that shaped his career. He delves into his academic work, including his dissertation and subsequent publications, emphasizing the core message of biblical theology, which centers on God's glory and salvation through judgment. Dr. Hamilton also highlights his latest book on the literary structure of the Gospel of John, offering insights into the art of writing and the balance between academic and pastoral responsibilities. He provides valuable advice for aspiring writers, encouraging perseverance and the cultivation of a rich intellectual life.Get Hamilton's new book: In the Beginning Was the Word: Finding Meaning in the Literary Structure of the Gospel of John.Buy at WTSBooks and use code: MEDDERS, and get 5% off your purchase.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Gratitude02:42 Writing Journey and Early Influences05:45 First Publications and Academic Contributions08:48 The Core Message of Biblical Theology11:43 Recent Works and Literary Structure of John's Gospel14:32 The Genius of Biblical Authors17:39 Approaches to Writing and Commentary20:42 Balancing Writing with Life Responsibilities23:27 Setting Writing Goals and Expectations27:41 Writing Habits and Routines32:15 The Art of Structuring Content38:48 Perseverance in Writing and Publishing41:03 Rapid Fire Questions
Title: The Dead in Christ Will RisePreacher: Jim HamiltonSeries: I ThessaloniansPassage: 1 Thessalonians 4:13–18
The Fellowship of Christian Athletes' exciting local radio program, Heart of the Athlete, airs Saturdays at 9:30 am MST on 94.5 FM and 790 AM Boise's Solid Talk. The show is hosted by local FCA Director, Ken Lewis. This program is a great opportunity to listen to local athletes and coaches share their lives, combining sports with their faith in Jesus Christ each week!Our relationships will demonstrate steadfast commitment to Jesus Christ and His Word through Integrity, Serving, Teamwork and Excellence.NNU Box 3359 623 S University Blvd Nampa, ID 83686 United States (208) 697-1051 klewis@fca.orghttps://www.fcaidaho.org/Podcast Website: https://www.790kspd.com/podcast-heart-of-the-athlete/
We've started a new book: Isaiah. In Isaiah 1, the prophet explains Israel's heart problem, and what they need to do—or believe!—in order to fix it. Alex Duke, Jim Hamilton, and Sam Emadi discuss.
Title: This Is the Will of God: Your SanctificationPreacher: Jim HamiltonSeries: I ThessaloniansPassage: 1 Thessalonians 4:1–12
After a summer delay, Bible Talk is back! And we're switching genres . . . or do genres even exist? Alex Duke, Jim Hamilton, and Sam Emadi discuss “rules” for reading prophetic literature. (Spoiler: Jim doesn't like the rules.)
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Title: Entrusted with the GospelPreacher: Jim HamiltonSeries: 1 ThessaloniansPassage: 1 Thessalonians 2:1–8
Join us for a conversation with Jim Hamilton, professor of biblical theology at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and Senior Pastor of Kenwood Baptist Church in Louisville, Kentucky. He has written numerous books, including God's Glory in Salvation through Judgment: A Biblical Theology and In the Beginning Was the Word: Finding Meaning in the Literary Structure of the Gospel of John You can buy the book here: https://bakerpublishinggroup.com/books/in-the-beginning-was-the-word/424461
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Join us for a conversation with Jim Hamilton, professor of biblical theology at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and Senior Pastor of Kenwood Baptist Church in Louisville, Kentucky. He has written numerous books, including God's Glory in Salvation through Judgment: A Biblical Theology and What Is Biblical Theology? A Guide to the Bible's Story, Symbolism, and Patterns. Link to the Southeast Worship Conference in Nashville, TN: https://SEworship.eventbrite.com
In episode twelve of Comics Karma, Lauren talks about an editor helping slash away at unneeded parts of her memoir. Then we invited Falling expert, Jim Hamilton to talk about social media, and finding one's audience and being seen. I think we settle in on: do the thing that's working and don't worry about the thing that's not working! Meanwhile, you'll hear stories about life and death, about broken bones, about Nascar and more! Get full access to How to Make a Graphic Novel at sawcomics.substack.com/subscribe
Erin, Jenny and Keri talk with professor James Hamilton (of Bible Talk) about why women should love biblical theology.
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Title: A Dance Before Two ArmiesPreacher: Jim HamiltonSeries: Song of SongsPassage: Song of Songs 6:11–7:6
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This week's episode is packed after a seismic weekend in the Champions Cup. Jim's got some apologies to make as Northampton Saints pulled off the unthinkable in Dublin, knocking out Leinster in their own backyard. We have Bigs on to break down exactly how his former club did it, where Leinster got it wrong, and what it means for the upcoming Lions squad announcement. Plus, we've got all the fallout from Jordie Barrett's bench role, Caelan Doris injury whispers, Fin Smith and Polock's meteoric rise, and some listener questions, including who from Lions history we'd bring back for 2025 and whether 100 Jim Hamilton could actually take down a gorilla. We also dive into Bath's win over Edinburgh to reach their first European final in over a decade, Bordeaux's breakout moment as they dismantled Toulouse and how the final might play out against Saints. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Title: My Hands Dripped with MyrrhPreacher: Jim HamiltonSeries: Song of SongsPassage: Song of Solomon 5:2–7
In this special episode of Bible Talk, Jim Hamilton and Sam Emadi interview Alex Duke about From Eden to Egypt, a book about Genesis “for normal people.”From Eden to Egypt, by Alex Duke
Title: When the Wind Breathes on the GardenPreacher: Jim HamiltonSeries: Song of SongsPassage: Song of Songs 4:12–5:1
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In 2 Kings 6–7, we get a floating axe-head and a Syrian siege and an angelic army. But why?Alex Duke, Jim Hamilton, and Sam Emadi discuss.