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Take 2 Theology
God Became Man: Why the Incarnation Changes Everything

Take 2 Theology

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 23, 2025 38:41


Episode 2.67What does it actually mean to say that God became man?In this episode of Take 2 Theology, the incarnation of the second person of the Trinity is explored—who became incarnate, what changed, and what did not. The discussion walks through classic Christian teaching on Christ's full deity and full humanity, drawing from Scripture, the Chalcedonian Definition, and the Athanasian Creed.Key theological questions are addressed:How can Christ be one person with two natures?Why the incarnation must be assumption, not subtractionWhere Christ's obedience belongs—in His humanity, not His eternal beingWhy debates over eternal subordination matter for the Trinity and worshipThe episode also explores whether the incarnation was merely God's response to sin or central to His eternal plan, and why Christ's two wills make His obedience real rather than symbolic.If Jesus is not fully God, worship collapses. If He is not fully human, salvation fails. The incarnation stands at the center of Christian theology—and this episode explains why it still matters.Find our videocast here: https://youtu.be/hGHP0bZOwJEMerch here: https://take-2-podcast.printify.me/Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):⁠https://uppbeat.io/t/reakt-music/deep-stone⁠License code: 2QZOZ2YHZ5UTE7C8Find more Take 2 Theology content at http://www.take2theology.com

Sermons from Lord of Lords Lutheran Church

To all those loved by God who are in Rome (and Casper), called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ (Romans 1:7). Amen.Ahaz is a wicked, unbelieving king. He is a descendant of King David, but he is unlike David who cherished his children and led the nation of Israel in their worship of the true God. Ahaz sacrificed his own son in the fire as he led the nation of Israel in the worship of pagan gods.Earlier in chapter 7, Isaiah records how King Ahaz of Judah is being threatened by Pekah, the king of Israel, who has allied himself with Rezin, the king of Aram, to destroy Judah. The prophet Isaiah calls King Ahaz to trust in the Lord for protection from this alliance. Ahaz refuses. His solution to this threat is to make is own alliance with the nation of Assyria, north of Aram (2 Kings 16:1-9).Isaiah tells Ahaz that he doesn't need this alliance with the wicked nation of Assyria. The Lord will protect Judah from its enemies. To prove this, Isaiah tells Ahaz to pick a sign – any sign – as proof of his protection. The Lord spoke to Ahaz again. He said, "Ask for a sign from the Lord your God. Ask for it either in the depths below or in the heights above" (Isaiah 7:10-11).Ahaz could have asked for anything. He could have gone simple and asked for a shooting star across the sky that night. He could have gone big and asked for an asteroid to come crashing down on his enemies. He could have asked for any sign he wanted.But King Ahaz doesn't trust in God. Instead, he trusts the alliance he had made with Assyria. Because he doesn't trust God, there was no sign that would have convinced him of God's power to save his throne or country. In false humility, Ahaz refuses to "test" the Lord. Ahaz responded, "I will not ask. I will not test the Lord" (Isaiah 7:12).To prove to Ahaz and to the world that his promises can be trusted, God decides on his own sign. He is not going to allow an unbelieving king to stand in the way of the physical deliverance of Judah and the eternal deliverance of all who believe the sign. God chooses a sign that is an embarrassment to Ahaz because it is so simple, yet so miraculous. It is also a sign that would take 700 years to fulfill. So, Isaiah said, "Listen now, you house of David. Is it not enough for you to test the patience of men? Will you test the patience of my God as well? Therefore the Lord himself will give a sign for all of you. Look! The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son and name him Immanuel" (Isaiah 7:13-14).God promises the virgin's Son and his Son will be named Immanuel – God with us... and God for us.What does it mean that Jesus, the Son of God, is "God with us"? To help understand the relationship of God to humans, imagine the relationship of humans to ants. Young Hudson volunteered to be our resident "ant-lover" for this story.Imagine that Hudson's dad, Ty, is going to be resurfacing their driveway. But Hudson notices that there's a large anthill at the edge of the driveway. He becomes worried that when the hot asphalt is poured onto the driveway, the asphalt will also fill the anthill – killing the countless ants inside.Hudson, being the ant-lover that he is, goes outside to start talking to the ants. He tells them about his dad, the driveway, the asphalt, and their anthill. He tells them the entire story.What do the ants do? ... Nothing. They ignore Hudson, even though he's trying to help them. So, Hudson gets down on their level. He puts his face right above the anthill and shouts warnings for them to pack up and leave. The ants just run away.What can Hudson do? He loves the ants. He wants to rescue the ants. But he's too superior to them. They're too puny. He's like a "god" to them.Hudson decides that the only way they'll listen to him is if he becomes one of them. So, that's what he does. He goes to his closet and put on his Ant-Man suit from Halloween. (Ant-Man is one of the Avengers.)Hudson, in his Ant-Man suit, pushes a button and shrinks down to become the size of an ant. (This is a very high-tech Halloween costume!) In this form, he's able to communicate with the ants and save those who believe his message.It sounds like a silly story, doesn't it? It will seem even more silly when Hudson wears his Ant-Man suit to church one day.It seems ridiculous that a person would become an ant to save the ants. But that's no more ridiculous than God becoming a human to save the humans.Think of the world the Son of God left. Our classiest mansion would be an anthill to him. Earth's finest cuisine would be crumbs on heaven's table. The idea of becoming an ant with a segmented body and antennae? That's nothing compared to God becoming an embryo and entering the womb of Mary.But that's what the Son of God did. The God of the universe was born into the poverty of a peasant and spent his first night in the cow's feed trough. The God of the universe left the glory of heaven and moved into our neighborhood. The God of the universe left his eternal seat on his golden throne, surrounded by saints and angels to be born in time and laid in a manger surrounded by Saint Mary and Saint Joseph. Who could have imagined God would do such a thing?Why would Jesus come? He comes to be Immanuel. He comes to be God with us.But I want you to understand that God being with us is not necessarily good news. He has every right to be God with us in righteous anger over our sins. He can be God with us in justified judgment over how we act and live. He can be God with us in deserving punishment over our continual crimes against God and humanity.A king coming to be with his people is not good news if he's there to raise their taxes. A judge coming to be with the people in the courtroom is not good news if he's there to sentence them to prison. A human coming to be with the ants is not good news if he's there to step on their anthill. And God coming to be with his creation is not good news if he's coming to bring the hellish punishment they rightly deserve.It is significant that when the angel appears to Joseph in a dream he says, "Joseph, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because the child conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, because he will save his people from their sins" (Matthew 1:20-21). The God who is coming is not coming to destroy his people because of their sins. Rather, he's coming to save his people from their sins. In other words, the God who is with you is the God who comes for you.We call this the incarnation. Divinity combined with humanity. God's gift of his Son wrapped in cute, little baby skin. We confess our belief in the incarnation in our three Christian universal creeds.The Apostles' Creed: "I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord, who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the virgin Mary..."The Nicene Creed: "For us and for our salvation, he came down from heaven, was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the virgin Mary, and became fully human."The Athanasian Creed: "He is God, eternally begotten from the nature of the Father, and he is man, born in time from the nature of his mother, fully God, fully man, with rational soul and human flesh, equal to the Father as to his deity, less than the Father as to his humanity..."This is what the incarnation of God taking on human flesh reveals: Jesus is the King coming to free his people from the tyranny of the Devil. He is the Judge coming to release the prisoners from the prison of hell. He is the God-Man coming to proclaim rescue to those who will listen and believe. He is the God who could come to us to wipe us out and shed our blood. However, instead he is the God who comes to wipe out our sins with his blood.God with us is only good news if God is for us. The good news is in changing the preposition. "For" means that Jesus is on our side, out to get our enemies. We are the "apple of his eye" (Psalm 17:8). He comes to live the perfect life for us, in our place. He comes to suffer for us, in our place. He comes to die for us, in our place. He comes to be the fulfillment of his names. He is Jesus because he saves us from our sins. He is Immanuel because he is God with us since he came for us.Again, why would Jesus come? Because he loves to be with the ones he loves.Dr. Maxwell Maltz tells a remarkable story of a love like this. A man attempted to save his parents from a burning house. He couldn't get to them. They perished. He was burned and disfigured in the fire. The man mistakenly interpreted his pain as God's punishment. He would not let anyone see him — not even his wife.The wife went to Dr. Maltz, a plastic surgeon, for help. He told her not to worry. He said, "I can restore his face." The wife was unenthused. Her husband had repeatedly refused any help. She knew he would refuse again.Then why her visit? She told the doctor, "I want you to disfigure my face so I can be like him. If I can share his pain, maybe he'll let me back in his life."Dr. Maltz was shocked. He denied her request but was so moved by her love that he went to speak with her husband. Knocking on the man's bedroom door, he called loudly. "Sir, my name is Dr. Maltz. I'm a plastic surgeon, and I can restore your face." No response. "Please come out." Again, there was no answer.Still speaking through the door, Dr. Maltz told the man of his wife's proposal. He said, "She wants me to disfigure her face, to make her face like yours in the hope that you let her back into your life. That's how much she loves you." There was a moment of silence, and then, ever so slowly, the doorknob began to turn.The way the woman felt for her husband is a small picture of the way God feels about us. But he did more than make the offer. He took on our face, our disfigurement. He became like us. Just look at the places he was willing to go to reach people – feed troughs, carpentry shops, deserts, and cemeteries. He visited mountain tops and temple courtyards. He went into the homes of friends, Pharisees, tax collectors, centurions, and dead little girls. The places Jesus went to reach us show how far he goes to fulfill his name, "He saves."Getting back to the story of King Ahaz... Israel and Aram failed in their plan against Judah. Both Israel and Aram were defeated by the Assyrians, with the northern kingdom of Israel falling to Assyria in 722 B.C.But then, look out, Ahaz! Assyria was not going to stop with knocking off Israel and Aram. Assyria would then turn its attention to Judah. After the promise of the virgin birth, Isaiah told King Ahaz, "The Lord will bring on you, on your people, and on your father's house, days worse than any since the day that Ephraim broke away from Judah. The Lord will bring the king of Assyria" (Isaiah 7:17).God fulfilled that promise, too. Assyria threatened Jerusalem 21 years later. At that time, Isaiah had to counsel the next king of Judah, Hezekiah, to trust in the Lord and not in political or military alliances. King Hezekiah listened to the counsel of Isaiah, and that threat again was lifted.God fulfilled his promise to wicked King Ahaz in sending a virgin's Son to be named Immanuel. This is why every Advent we sing, "Oh, come, oh, come, Emmanuel, and ransom captive Israel." Jesus is Immanuel – God with us by being God for us. He loves to be with the ones he loves. Amen.This gospel is about his Son, who in the flesh was born a descendant of David, who in the spirit of holiness was declared to be God's powerful Son by his resurrection from the dead—Jesus Christ, our Lord (Romans 1:3-4). Amen.View this sermon (with video and/or audio recording) on our website: https://www.casperwels.com/sermons/god-with-us-and-god-for-us/

Out of Neutral | Grace Baptist Church
A Beginner's Guide to the Athanasian Creed

Out of Neutral | Grace Baptist Church

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 17, 2025 6:25


Christians still wrestle with questions that shaped the early church: How could God be three and one at the same time? How is Jesus both God and man? Centuries of challenges drove believers back to Scripture, refining doctrine and producing the clarity found in the Athanasian Creed.

Christ Redeemer Church » Sermons
Nicene Creed: We Believe Our Lord Jesus Christ

Christ Redeemer Church » Sermons

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 7, 2025 30:48


QUOTES FOR REFLECTION“Now this is the catholic faith: That we worship one God in trinity and the trinity in unity, neither blending their persons nor dividing their essence. For the person of the Father is a distinct person, the person of the Son is another, and that of the Holy Spirit still another. But the divinity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is one, their glory equal, their majesty coeternal.Similarly, the Father is almighty, the Son is almighty, the Holy Spirit is almighty. Yet there are not three almighty beings; there is but one almighty being.Thus the Father is God, the Son is God, the Holy Spirit is God. Yet there are not three gods; there is but one God. Thus the Father is Lord, the Son is Lord, the Holy Spirit is Lord. Yet there are not three lords; there is but one Lord.”~ The Athanasian Creed (circa 5th Century) “If Jesus were to visit with a modern day psychiatrist, the doctor might say: ‘Jesus, I know that your father is important to you, but for a moment, let's set aside that relationship and talk about just you. How are you doing?' Jesus would probably reply, ‘My Father and I are doing fine.' How those words change any situation we may find ourselves in! ‘My Father and I are doing fine.'”~ Paul Miller, author of A Praying LifeSERMON PASSAGEPsalm 27 I will tell of the decree:  The Lord said to me, “You are my Son;    today I have begotten you. John 1 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. 6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness, to bear witness about the light, that all might believe through him. 8 He was not the light, but came to bear witness about the light. 9 The true light, which gives light to everyone, was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world did not know him. 11 He came to his own, and his own people did not receive him. 12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, 13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. 15 (John bore witness about him, and cried out, “This was he of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me ranks before me, because he was before me.'”) 16 For from his fullness we have all received, grace upon grace. 17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has ever seen God; God the only Son, who is at the Father's side, he has made him known.John 8 12 Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.” John 10 30 “I and the Father are one.” John 17 1 When Jesus had spoken these words, he lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, “Father, the hour has come; glorify your Son that the Son may glorify you, 2 since you have given him authority over all flesh, to give eternal life to all whom you have given him. 3 And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. 4 I glorified you on earth, having accomplished the work that you gave me to do. 5 And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed. Colossians 1 15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. 16 For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him. 17 And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in everything he might be preeminent. 1 Corinthians 8 5 For although there may be so-called gods in heaven or on earth—as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”— 6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.

Trinities
podcast 398 – Response to “The Trinity? – Walking with Wes”

Trinities

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 4, 2025 21:38


In this short video apologist Wes Huff confidently dishes out a bunch of mostly standard apologetics “answers” designed to sooth worries about “the doctrine of the Trinity.” In this reaction video I interact with Huff’s claims, clarifying what he’s saying and why, pointing out what he’s doing and not doing, and how he fails to engage with the seemingly non-trinitarian theology of the New Testament. He’s right that it is Christians and not only non-Christians who have various worries about what is imagined to be one single doctrine. But as I discuss, his answers should not soothe Christians concerned about (1) how one can supposedly derive a Trinity doctrine from the Bible, and (2) how Trinity speculations seem incompatible with the theology of the Bible. Links for this episode: Video version of this episode podcast 397 – Debunking Wes Huff's Viral Trinity Moment with Michael Temperato podcast 107 – Dr. Robert M. Bowman Jr. on triadic New Testament passages – part 1 podcast 62 – Dr. Dustin Smith on the preexistence of Jesus in the gospel of John podcast 260 – How to Argue that the Bible is Trinitarian podcast 189 – The unfinished business of the Reformation podcast 248 – How Trinity theories conflict with the Bible Dale Tuggy – Trinitarian “Fool’s Gold” – Mainstream Christian Theologies – Late 100’s to Early 200’s Dale Tuggy – Christian theologies in the year 240 podcast 2 – the “Athanasian Creed” fulfillment fallacy: the Bible teaches that David is God fulfillment fallacy: the Bible on another previous life of Jesus This week’s thinking music is “Slinky” by Mr. Smith.

Considering Catholicism (A Catholic Podcast)
Divine Mysteries: The Trinity (#405)

Considering Catholicism (A Catholic Podcast)

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 17, 2025 32:51


[DONATE WITH PAYPAL] What makes Christianity unique? It's the Trinity—Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, one God in three persons. In this episode, Greg dives into why the Trinity is the non-negotiable heart of the Christian faith, using the Athanasian Creed to show its centrality and exploring why it's so hard to grasp. From common analogies to the relational love that reflects God's image in us, he unpacks this divine mystery with clarity and reverence. Join us to discover how the Trinity invites us into God's eternal love, culminating in the beatific vision of heaven. Donate with PayPal! Website: https://www.consideringcatholicism.com/ Email: consideringcatholicism@gmail.com

Logopraxis
Part 3: The Divine Human – The recognition of the glory of the Lord as the Word. (4 mins)

Logopraxis

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 15, 2025 4:17


Third Round posts are short audio clips taken from Round 3 comments in the online Logopraxis Life Group meetings. The aim is to maintain focus on understanding the Text's application to the inner life while reinforcing key LP principles highlighted in the exchanges. Transcript of this 3 part Third Round series (PDF) The 3 Humans This Third Round is part of a 3 part series on the glorification of the Lord. The following passage is a good reference for this work: Doctrine of the Lord 35. vi. By successive steps the Lord put off the human taken from the mother, and put on a Human from the Divine within Him, which is the Divine Human, and is the Son of God. That in the Lord were the Divine and the human, the Divine from Jehovah the Father, and the human from the virgin Mary, is known. Hence He was God and Man, having a Divine essence and a human nature; a Divine essence from the Father, and a human nature from the mother; and therefore was equal to the Father as to the Divine, and less than the Father as to the human. It is also known that this human nature from the mother was not transmuted into the Divine essence, nor commingled with it, for this is taught in the Doctrine of Faith which is called the Athanasian Creed. For a human nature cannot be transmuted into the Divine essence, nor can it be commingled therewith. [2] In accordance with the same creed is also our doctrine, that the Divine assumed the Human, that is, united itself to it, as a soul to its body, so that they were not two, but one Person. From this it follows that the Lord put off the human from the mother, which in itself was like that of another man, and thus material, and put on a Human from the Father, which in itself was like His Divine, and thus substantial, so that the Human too became Divine. The holiness of the Word Arcana Coelestia 4922... anyone believing that the Word is holy can recognize that each has a specific meaning, and anyone believing that the Word is holy for the reason that it has been sent down from the Lord by way of heaven can recognize that the celestial and spiritual things belonging to His kingdom are meant. AC 10057...If people believe that the Word is holy and has been inspired by God in every single part, they must also believe that every single established practice in the sacrifices and burnt offerings embraces and contains such arcana within it. Yet what it is that those practices embrace and contain within them cannot by any means be known on earth unless it is known what is meant in heaven by such things. What is meant, however, the internal sense of the Word alone teaches, since this unfolds correspondences. For all things that exist in the natural world correspond to those which exist in the spiritual world, because the former comes into being from and is held in being by the latter. AC 5274(7)... all the details of the Word are holy; but the holiness therein is not apparent to the understanding, except that of one who knows its internal sense; nevertheless by influx from heaven it comes to the perception of him who believes the Word to be holy. This influx is effected through the internal sense in which the angels are; and although this sense is not understood by the man, still it affects him, because the affection of the angels who are in it is communicated. From this it is plain also that the Word has been given to man in order that he may have communication with heaven, and that the Divine truth which is in heaven may affect him by means of the influx. Doctrine of Sacred Scripture 18. iii. From the spiritual sense it is that the Word is Divinely inspired, and is holy in every word. It is said in the church that the Word is holy, and this because Jehovah God spoke it; but as its holiness is not apparent from the letter alone, he who on this account once doubts its holiness, afterwards confirms his doubt when reading the Word by many things in it, for he then thinks,

Logopraxis
Part 2: The Paternal Human – The difference between the letter, the literal sense and the internal sense. (12 mins)

Logopraxis

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 13, 2025 12:40


The 3 Humans This Third Round is part of a 3 part series on the glorification of the Lord. The following passage is a good reference for this work: Doctrine of the Lord 35. vi. By successive steps the Lord put off the human taken from the mother, and put on a Human from the Divine within Him, which is the Divine Human, and is the Son of God. That in the Lord were the Divine and the human, the Divine from Jehovah the Father, and the human from the virgin Mary, is known. Hence He was God and Man, having a Divine essence and a human nature; a Divine essence from the Father, and a human nature from the mother; and therefore was equal to the Father as to the Divine, and less than the Father as to the human. It is also known that this human nature from the mother was not transmuted into the Divine essence, nor commingled with it, for this is taught in the Doctrine of Faith which is called the Athanasian Creed. For a human nature cannot be transmuted into the Divine essence, nor can it be commingled therewith. [2] In accordance with the same creed is also our doctrine, that the Divine assumed the Human, that is, united itself to it, as a soul to its body, so that they were not two, but one Person. From this it follows that the Lord put off the human from the mother, which in itself was like that of another man, and thus material, and put on a Human from the Father, which in itself was like His Divine, and thus substantial, so that the Human too became Divine. Arcana Coelestia 3061(3)... Jehovah, who is the Lord as to the Divine Essence, descended and took upon Himself a Human, by conception Divine, and by birth from a virgin such as is that of another man; but this He expelled, and by Divine means made Divine the Human that was born, from which proceeds all the Holy. Thus the Divine Human became an essence by itself which fills the universal heaven, and which also makes it possible for those to be saved who could not be saved before. This then is the Lord, who as to the Divine Human is alone Man, and from whom man has it that he is man (n. 49, 288, 477, 565, 1894). See also The Heavenly Doctrines of the New Jerusalem 302. The historicals/literal sense/sense of the letter are not the Word Arcana Coelestia 1504. The historicals are what represent the Lord; the words themselves are significative of the things that are represented. But being historical, the mind of the reader cannot but be held in them; especially at this day, when most persons, and indeed nearly all, do not believe that there is an internal sense, and still less that it exists in every word; and it may be that in spite of the fact that the internal sense has been so plainly shown thus far, they will not even now acknowledge its existence, and this for the reason that the internal sense appears to recede so far from the sense of the letter as to be scarcely recognized in it. And yet that these historicals cannot be the Word they might know from the mere fact that when separated from the internal sense there is no more of the Divine in them than in any other history; whereas the internal sense makes the Word to be Divine. [2] That the internal sense is the Word itself, is evident from many things that have been revealed, as, “Out of Egypt have I called My son” (Matthew 2:15); besides many others. The Lord Himself also, after His resurrection, taught the disciples what had been written concerning Him in Moses and the Prophets (Luke 24:27); and thus that there is nothing written in the Word that does not regard Him, His kingdom, and the church. These are the spiritual and celestial things of the Word; but the things contained in the literal sense are for the most part worldly, corporeal, and earthly; AC 6884... the historicals of the Word cannot enter into heaven; for the historical of the Word is natural and worldly, and those who are in heaven are in no ideas but what are spiritual, so that they understand the Word spiritually; and what is worldly,...

Logopraxis
Part 1: The Maternal Human – When the sensory rules, the ‘green things’ are destroyed (7 mins)

Logopraxis

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 11, 2025 7:22


The Maternal Human This Third Round is part of a 3 part series on the glorification of the Lord. Whilst no direct mention is made regarding the maternal human in this audio, the maternal human is what pertains to the things from Mary, the mother, that relate to the sensory level of person, place, time and space. The following passage is a good reference for this work: Doctrine of the Lord 35. vi. By successive steps the Lord put off the human taken from the mother, and put on a Human from the Divine within Him, which is the Divine Human, and is the Son of God. That in the Lord were the Divine and the human, the Divine from Jehovah the Father, and the human from the virgin Mary, is known. Hence He was God and Man, having a Divine essence and a human nature; a Divine essence from the Father, and a human nature from the mother; and therefore was equal to the Father as to the Divine, and less than the Father as to the human. It is also known that this human nature from the mother was not transmuted into the Divine essence, nor commingled with it, for this is taught in the Doctrine of Faith which is called the Athanasian Creed. For a human nature cannot be transmuted into the Divine essence, nor can it be commingled therewith. [2] In accordance with the same creed is also our doctrine, that the Divine assumed the Human, that is, united itself to it, as a soul to its body, so that they were not two, but one Person. From this it follows that the Lord put off the human from the mother, which in itself was like that of another man, and thus material, and put on a Human from the Father, which in itself was like His Divine, and thus substantial, so that the Human too became Divine. The green, the sensitivity, is being destroyed Arcana Coelestia 7691. And there was not left any green thing. That this signifies that all sensitivity of truth was obliterated, is evident from the signification of “not to be left,” as being to be obliterated; and from the signification of “what is green,” as being what is of memory-knowledge and the sensuous, here what is sensitive of truth, because by the “fruit of a tree” is signified the knowing of good (n. 7690), and because it is said “any green thing in the tree and in the herb of the field.” That “green” denotes that which is sensitive of truth, is because by “herb,” “grass,” and “the leaf of a tree” are signified truths; hence their “greenness” signifies that which is sensitive of truth. By this sensitivity is signified the ultimate of perception.  Ordering of the hells 7681... the evil are devastated as the Lord sets heaven in order; for the influx of good and truth from heaven causes devastation with the evil; and therefore when the Lord sets the heavens in order, then the hells, which are in the opposite, are set in order of themselves, and are removed from heaven according to the degrees of evil, and are allotted places according to the quality of their evil. Memory knowledges/scientifics do not save 7689...the herb of the land is signified the memory-knowledge of truth (scientifics), because “the land” here denotes the natural mind; and the truth of the natural mind is memory-knowledge(scientifics); and moreover the evil have no truth by faith, but only the memory-knowledge(scientific) of the truth which is of faith. Some evil men who are in the church persuade themselves that they are in truth by faith, but they are not; they are in falsity, and are against the truth of faith. That they are in falsity is hidden with them so long as they are in the world, but this hidden falsity comes forth and manifests itself in the other life when they are being devastated as to the truths of faith which they had known. Third Round posts are short audio clips taken from Round 3 comments in the online Logopraxis Life Group meetings. The aim is to maintain focus on understanding the Text's application to the inner life while reinforcing key LP principles highlighted in the exchanges.

Craving Answers, Craving God
Is Anyone Else Bothered by the Last Line of the Athanasian Creed? (Ep125)

Craving Answers, Craving God

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 27, 2025 34:25


When the Athanasian Creed is read on Trinity Sunday every year, many Protestant Christians struggle with the last line, “Those who have done good will enter into eternal life, but those who have done evil will go into eternal fire.” This implication that salvation is by human works seems to conflict with the teaching that salvation is by grace through faith alone. But for a couple of reasons it's safe to call this a misunderstanding. First, this line from the Creed is almost a direct quote of Jesus' own words in John 5:29: there is coming a day when the day will be raised, “those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment.” Unless we are prepared to say Jesus has bad theology, we'll need to find a way to incorporate the Creed's teaching into our theology. And this, as it turns out, is explained in many more places in Scripture. Paul teaches in Ephesians 2:8-9 that we are saved by grace through faith as a gift, but Ephesians 2:10 explains that this salvation is given to us because we are God's workmanship created in Christ Jesus for good works. In other words, we are saved by grace through faith alone, but that salvation will result in good works, which–on the last day–will be the evidence of whether or not we have been saved by grace. Hosts: Aaron Mueller and Chuck Rathert Subscribe to the show at https://cacg.saintjamesglencarbon.org. To comment on this episode, visit https://saintjamesglencarbon.org/cacg-ep125.

Truth Unites
The Athanasian Creed: Christianity's Most Controversial Statement of Faith

Truth Unites

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 25, 2025 45:00


Gavin Ortlund explains the Athanasian Creed, tracing its history, theology, and lasting importance for how Christians understand their faith.Truth Unites (https://truthunites.org) exists to promote gospel assurance through theological depth. Gavin Ortlund (PhD, Fuller Theological Seminary) is President of Truth Unites, Visiting Professor of Historical Theology at Phoenix Seminary, and Theologian-in-Residence at Immanuel Nashville.SUPPORT:Tax Deductible Support: https://truthunites.org/donate/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/truthunitesFOLLOW:Website: https://truthunites.org/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truth.unites/X: https://x.com/gavinortlundFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TruthUnitesPage/

Logopraxis
How the Lord’s glorification can be the story of how the Word becomes the Lord for us (14 mins)

Logopraxis

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 3, 2025 14:39


Arcana Coelestia 7499. In the Word the Lord is called “Jehovah” as to Divine good, for Divine good is the Divine Itself; and the Lord is called the “Son of God” as to Divine truth, for Divine truth proceeds from the Divine good as a son from a father, and also is said to be “born:” how this is shall be further told. When the Lord was in the world He made His Human Divine truth, and then called the Divine good which is Jehovah, His “Father;” because, as just said, Divine truth proceeds and is born from Divine good. But after the Lord had fully glorified Himself, which was done when He endured the last of temptation on the cross, He then made His Human also Divine good, that is, Jehovah; and thereby the Divine truth itself proceeded from His Divine Human. The Divine truth is what is called the “Holy Spirit,” and is the holy which proceeds from the Divine Human. From this is evident what is meant by the Lord's words in John: The Holy Spirit was not yet, because Jesus was not yet glorified (John 7:39). That it is the Divine good which is called the “Father,” and the Divine truth which is called the “Son,” see n. 3704. Doctrine of the Lord 35. vi. By successive steps the Lord put off the human taken from the mother, and put on a Human from the Divine within Him, which is the Divine Human, and is the Son of God. That in the Lord were the Divine and the human, the Divine from Jehovah the Father, and the human from the virgin Mary, is known. Hence He was God and Man, having a Divine essence and a human nature; a Divine essence from the Father, and a human nature from the mother; and therefore was equal to the Father as to the Divine, and less than the Father as to the human. It is also known that this human nature from the mother was not transmuted into the Divine essence, nor commingled with it, for this is taught in the Doctrine of Faith which is called the Athanasian Creed. For a human nature cannot be transmuted into the Divine essence, nor can it be commingled therewith. [2] In accordance with the same creed is also our doctrine, that the Divine assumed the Human, that is, united itself to it, as a soul to its body, so that they were not two, but one Person. From this it follows that the Lord put off the human from the mother, which in itself was like that of another man, and thus material, and put on a Human from the Father, which in itself was like His Divine, and thus substantial, so that the Human too became Divine. This is why in the Word of the Prophets the Lord even as to the Human is called Jehovah, and God; and in the Word of the Evangelists, Lord, God, Messiah or Christ, and the Son of God in whom we must believe, and by whom we are to be saved. [3] As from His birth the Lord had a human from the mother, and as He by successive steps put it off, it follows that while He was in the world He had two states, the one called the state of humiliation or emptying out [exinanitio], and the other the state of glorification or unition with the Divine called the Father. He was in the state of humiliation at the time and in the degree that He was in the human from the mother; and in that of glorification at the time and in the degree that He was in the Human from the Father. In the state of humiliation He prayed to the Father as to one who was other than Himself; but in the state of glorification He spoke with the Father as with Himself. In this latter state He said that the Father was in Him and He in the Father, and that the Father and He were one. But in the state of humiliation He underwent temptations, and suffered the cross, and prayed to the Father not to forsake Him. For the Divine could not be tempted, much less could it suffer the cross. From what has been said it is now evident that by means of temptations and continual victories in them, and by the passion of the cross which was the last of the temptations, the Lord completely conquered the hells, and fully glorified His Human,

Mother Miriam Live
The Trinity, True Forgiveness & the Cost of Real Love

Mother Miriam Live

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 19, 2025 41:36


Mother Miriam offers a passionate catechesis on the Holy Trinity, reading the full Athanasian Creed and explaining why belief in the Trinity is essential for salvation. Drawing on Saint Augustine and the Hebrew Scriptures, she reveals how God's triune nature is eternal and not a New Testament invention.She then answers listener questions about family estrangement, fallen-away children, and the painful work of forgiveness. She rejects feel-good relativism and reminds Catholics that real absolution demands repentance—and that loving the people closest to us sometimes means saying hard truths.U.S. residents! Create a will with LifeSiteNews: https://www.mylegacywill.com/lifesitenews ****PROTECT Your Wealth with gold, silver, and precious metals: https://stjosephpartners.com/lifesitenews +++SHOP ALL YOUR FUN AND FAVORITE LIFESITE MERCH! https://shop.lifesitenews.com/ ****Download the all-new LSNTV App now, available on iPhone and Android!LSNTV Apple Store: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/lsntv/id6469105564 LSNTV Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lifesitenews.app +++Connect with John-Henry Westen and all of LifeSiteNews on social media:LifeSite: https://linktr.ee/lifesitenews John-Henry Westen: https://linktr.ee/jhwesten Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Issues, Etc.
The Athanasian Creed – Dr. James Lee, 6/16/25 (1673, Encore)

Issues, Etc.

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 16, 2025 63:48


Dr. James Lee of Concordia University Chicago Concordia University Chicago School of Theology The post The Athanasian Creed – Dr. James Lee, 6/16/25 (1673, Encore) first appeared on Issues, Etc..

Clerical Errors Podcast
Athanasian Creed: Hmmm

Clerical Errors Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 15, 2025 60:53


Tornado alarms, precision in doctrine, Judeo-Christian Values, the origin of the Ten Commandments, and the challenges of hymn translation. The Holy Trinity, John 3:1–17

Pastor David Balla
Sermon: The Word That Death Cannot Silence

Pastor David Balla

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 15, 2025 11:17


https://youtu.be/4qvoP86yDdUDiscover the deep comfort of the Triune God in this Holy Trinity Sunday sermon: “The Word That Death Cannot Silence” from John 8:48–59. Preached in the tradition of C.F.W. Walther and grounded in the Lutheran Church—Missouri Synod (LCMS), Pastor Balla proclaims the eternal power of Christ's Word—stronger than sin, louder than the grave, and shining with divine beauty. This Gospel-centered message explores the mystery of the Holy Trinity, the glory of the incarnate Word, and the lasting victory over death that is yours in Jesus Christ.Celebrate the Te Deum through LSB 941, confess the Athanasian Creed, and behold the beauty of God through the lens of theological aesthetics. This sermon is ideal for those searching for LCMS sermons, Trinitarian preaching, Holy Trinity Sunday reflections, or rich Law and Gospel proclamation. Strengthen your faith through the Word that cannot be silenced—even by death itself.✅ Subscribe for more confessional Lutheran sermons, weekly devotions, and Christ-centered content.⸻

Redeemer Presbyterian Church in Austin
1 Peter 1:1-2 - Special Services

Redeemer Presbyterian Church in Austin

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 15, 2025


Each year, on the Sunday following Pentecost, we set aside a week to remind ourselves that the God we worship is Triune: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Rather than being “extra credit” for really serious Christians, understanding the Trinity is essential to our faith. Our Confession of Faith this Sunday will be the Athanasian Creed, which says we can't be saved without believing the doctrine of the Trinity “firmly and faithfully”! To help us grow in our understanding of the Trinity, we'll turn on Sunday to 1 Peter 1:2, one of the many verses in the Bible that talks about the Trinity. More than just a theological lesson about the Trinity, I hope our time together impresses on us the deep commitment God has for us and for our good. Each person of the Trinity—Father, Son, and Spirit—are at work to rescue us from our exile and secure a place for us in the new creation.

The Heidelcast
Heidelminicast: One Person, Two Natures (4): How the Athanasian Creed Could Have Helped

The Heidelcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 5, 2025 16:15


All the Episodes of the Heidelcast Subscribe to the Heidelcast! Browse the Heidelshop! On X @Heidelcast On Insta & Facebook @Heidelcast Subscribe in Apple Podcast Subscribe directly via RSS Call The Heidelphone via Voice Memo On Your Phone The Heidelcast is available wherever podcasts are found including Spotify. Call or text the Heidelphone anytime at (760) 618-1563. Leave a message or email us a voice memo from your phone and we may use it in a future podcast. Record it and email it to heidelcast@heidelblog.net. If you benefit from the Heidelcast please leave a five-star review on Apple Podcasts so that others can find it. Please do not forget to make the coffer clink (see the donate button below). SHOW NOTES How To Subscribe To Heidelmedia The Heidelblog Resource Page Heidelmedia Resources The Ecumenical Creeds The Reformed Confessions The Heidelberg Catechism Recovering the Reformed Confession (Phillipsburg: P&R Publishing, 2008) Why I Am A Christian What Must A Christian Believe? Heidelblog Contributors Support Heidelmedia: use the donate button or send a check to: Heidelberg Reformation Association 1637 E. Valley Parkway #391 Escondido CA 92027 USA The HRA is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization

Orthodocs.faith
The Creeds, pt 5: Impact

Orthodocs.faith

Play Episode Listen Later May 23, 2025


With this episode, John and Ron conclude their series on the creeds. They look briefly at the Athanasian Creed and then discuss the influence of the creeds on several Protestant doctrinal statements. The post The Creeds, pt 5: Impact appeared first on Orthodocs.faith.

Madison Reformed Church
Belgic Confession 1 (part 9) "God Is Almighty"

Madison Reformed Church

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 16, 2025 25:34


Gen. 49:22–26 Job 37:14–24 Mark 4:35­–41 Rev. 15:1–8In this message on the attributes of God, our reflections are on the Almighty God. This is one that the  Church has really emphasized in our creeds and liturgies. It's the only attribute of God that appears in all three of the ancient creeds we use: the Apostles' and Nicene both begin, “I believe in God the Father Almighty.” The Athanasian Creed says, “…the Father is almighty, the Son is almighty, the Holy Spirit is almighty..." And so many of our prayers begin with "Almighty God..." Why? We explore from Job 37.

To Be a Christian: The Anglican Catechism in a Year
Day 21. Which creeds has this church received? (2025)

To Be a Christian: The Anglican Catechism in a Year

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 21, 2025 9:28


Today is day 21 and we are in the section Concerning the Creeds on question 21. Since today's question does not include scripture references, we will be reading two of the three creeds received by the ACNA - the Nicene Creed and Athanasian Creed. The third, The Apostles' Creed, will be read on day 24. 21. Which creeds has this church received? This church believes the Apostles' Creed, the Nicene Creed, and the Athanasian Creed. (Articles of Religion, 8) Our prayer today is The Collect for Trinity Sunday found on page 608 of the Book of Common Prayer (2019). If you would like to buy or download To Be a Christian, head to anglicanchurch.net/catechism. Produced by Holy Trinity Anglican Church in Madison, MS. Original music from Matthew Clark. Daily collects and Psalms are taken from Book of Common Prayer (2019), created by the Anglican Church in North America and published by the Anglican Liturgical Press. Used by permission. All rights reserved. Scripture quotations are from The ESV® Bible (The Holy Bible, English Standard Version®), copyright © 2001 by Crossway, a publishing ministry of Good News Publishers. Used by permission. All rights reserved. Catechism readings are taken from To Be a Christian - An Anglican Catechism Approved Edition, copyright © 2020 by The Anglican Church in North America by Crossway a publishing ministry of Good News Publishers. Used by permission. All rights reserved.

Spirit-Led Hope
S4 E9: The Trinity--Part 1

Spirit-Led Hope

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 19, 2025 17:47 Transcription Available


Send a one-way encouraging text to Spirit-Led Hope!Season 4 of Spirit-Led Hope covers the Doctrine of God, or theology, from a Spirit-led perspective. In this episode, Glenn tackles the difficult concept of the Trinity. The episode looks at the Athanasian Creed, as well as the wisdom in using analogies to discuss the Trinity. Most importantly, Glenn stresses that we can experience the truth of the Trinity, even if we cannot fully understand this revelation of God.This episode has a transcript. If your podcast player does not support transcripts, please go to the Transcripts section of https://spiritledhope.com/ . These transcripts have been edited for accuracy and are typically of higher quality than those produced automatically by many podcast apps.Season 4 is part of a long term goal to study systematic theology from a Spirit-led perspective. If you want to know more about systematic theology, or expand your study, Glenn is using the following text as a helpful framework to make sure the main topics are covered:  Foundations of Pentecostal Theology, by Guy P. Duffield and Nathaniel M. Van Cleave.  The book is published by Foursquare Media and Glenn is using the Second Edition published in 2016.        

Catholic Answers Live
#12011 The Creed - Fr. Hezekias Carnazzo

Catholic Answers Live

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 6, 2025


Questions covered: 21:23 – What other Christians besides Catholics, if any, profess the Nicene Creed and why? 35:10 – Where does the Catholic teaching of the Assumption come from? 42:00 – Please explain the differences and history of the Nicene Creed, the Apostles' Creed, and Athanasian Creed. 49:15 – Is there any debate on the translation from the original Greek text of the Nicene Creed? 51:20 – Is it okay for me to add words to the Nicene Creed in private? …

The Heidelcast
Heidelminicast Q&A: Does the Athanasian Creed Teach That We Go To Heaven Through Good Works?

The Heidelcast

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 4, 2024 19:46


All the Episodes of the Heidelcast Subscribe to the Heidelcast! On X @Heidelcast On Insta & Facebook @Heidelcast Subscribe in Apple Podcast Subscribe directly via RSS Call The Heidelphone via Voice Memo On Your Phone The Heidelcast is available wherever podcasts are found including Spotify. Call or text the Heidelphone anytime at (760) 618-1563. Leave a message or email us a voice memo from your phone and we may use it in a future podcast. Record it and email it to heidelcast@heidelblog.net. If you benefit from the Heidelcast please leave a five-star review on Apple Podcasts so that others can find it. Please do not forget to make the coffer clink (see the donate button below). SHOW NOTES How To Subscribe To Heidelmedia The Heidelblog Resource Page Heidelmedia Resources The Ecumenical Creeds The Reformed Confessions The Heidelberg Catechism Recovering the Reformed Confession (Phillipsburg: P&R Publishing, 2008) Why I Am A Christian What Must A Christian Believe? Heidelblog Contributors Support Heidelmedia: use the donate button or send a check to: Heidelberg Reformation Association 1637 E. Valley Parkway #391 Escondido CA 92027 USA The HRA is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization

To Everything a Season: Lutheran Reflections Through the Church Year

In this episode, we discuss the role of the historical creeds in confessing our beliefs about Christ.

Optiv Podcast
#122 // Dr. Chris Bruno | Did Paul Think Jesus Was God?

Optiv Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 30, 2024 80:14


In this episode, I talked with Dr. Chris Bruno. Dr. Bruno received his PhD from Wheaton College and is the President and Professor of New Testament and Biblical Theology at Oahu Theological Seminary. He is also the author of multiple books including Paul vs. James: What We've Been Missing in The Faith and Works Debate. Chris is a member of the St. John Fellowship of the Center for Pastor Theologians.In our discussion, Dr. Bruno and I talked about the study of divine Christology. We discussed the nature of Jesus, how the early church came to understand Jesus's divinity, and how they articulated their theology in the Apostles Creed, Nicene Creed, and Athanasian Creed. We talked about what it means that “Jesus descended into Hell” and what Jesus meant when he said, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”. Finally, we talked about his new book, The Divine Christology of the Apostle Paul: Retrospect and Prospect. In this book, Dr. Chris Bruno, Dr. John Lee, and Dr. Thomas Schreiner explain the scholarly work done in the past 50 years related to the Apostle Paul's Christology. I hope you enjoy! Sign up for my newsletter and never miss an episode: https://optivnetwork.comFollow me on X: https://x.com/andyschmitt99Email me at andy@optivnetwork.com with your questions!Music: "nesting" by Birocratic (http://birocratic.lnk.to/allYL)

One Decent Pastor
The Athanasian Creed

One Decent Pastor

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 22, 2024 58:42


In this episode, the fellas discuss the Athanasian Creed with guest pastors, Mike Phay and Jonathan Wallace.

athanasian creed jonathan wallace
Church Theology
The Athanasian Creed (with Brandon Smith)

Church Theology

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 5, 2024 59:28


The Athanasian Creed famously confesses, “We worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity; Neither confounding the Persons nor dividing the substance." But what exactly does this mean that God is one and yet three persons? And why is The Athanasian Creed so concerned about the doctrine of the Trinity as it relates to our salvation? In this episodes Kirk is joined by Brandon Smith to discuss these questions and more! (We apologize for the poor quality audio on Kirk's end. His computer was experiencing a technical problem during the recording which affected the audio.)

The Coffee Hour from KFUO Radio
Confessing the Athanasian Creed (Rebroadcast)

The Coffee Hour from KFUO Radio

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 2, 2024 25:55


Rev. Sean Daenzer, director of worship for the LCMS and International Center Chaplain, joins Sarah to talk about how the Athanasian Creed became part of our Confessions, who St. Athanasius was and his relationship to this creed, how it's similar and different to the Apostles' and Nicene Creeds, some of the language that might make us uncomfortable and also the beautiful language to pay attention to. Find this Creed on pages 319-320 in the Lutheran Service Book or download it from this link on lcms.org. This is a rebroadcast from June 8, 2022.

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why is the Athanasian Creed confusing | episode 191

{that podcast}

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 28, 2024 49:30


DJ takes about how the Athanasian Creed can be confusing for those that don't know the whole story. That Podcast is available on the following podcast services by searching “Atonement Fargo”: Spotify Google Podcasts Apple Podcasts Castbox Find us online at: YouTube Facebook Twitter https://thatpodcast.net​​​​​​​ https://atonement.live​​​​​​​ https://www.atonementfargo.org

Logopraxis
The Word progressively steps us out of our ideas of the Lord as a finite being as we practise its truths (6 mins)

Logopraxis

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 25, 2024 6:41


The three humans Doctrine of the Lord 35. vi. By successive steps the Lord put off the human taken from the mother, and put on a Human from the Divine within Him, which is the Divine Human, and is the Son of God. That in the Lord were the Divine and the human, the Divine from Jehovah the Father, and the human from the virgin Mary, is known. Hence He was God and Man, having a Divine essence and a human nature; a Divine essence from the Father, and a human nature from the mother; and therefore was equal to the Father as to the Divine, and less than the Father as to the human. It is also known that this human nature from the mother was not transmuted into the Divine essence, nor commingled with it, for this is taught in the Doctrine of Faith which is called the Athanasian Creed. For a human nature cannot be transmuted into the Divine essence, nor can it be commingled therewith. [2] In accordance with the same creed is also our doctrine, that the Divine assumed the Human, that is, united itself to it, as a soul to its body, so that they were not two, but one Person. From this it follows that the Lord put off the human from the mother, which in itself was like that of another man, and thus material, and put on a Human from the Father, which in itself was like His Divine, and thus substantial, so that the Human too became Divine. This is why in the Word of the Prophets the Lord even as to the Human is called Jehovah, and God; and in the Word of the Evangelists, Lord, God, Messiah or Christ, and the Son of God in whom we must believe, and by whom we are to be saved.   The human from the Father is NOT the son of Mary True Christian Religion 94. In the Christian churches of the present day it is customary to call the Lord our Savior the son of Mary, and rarely the Son of God, except when a Son of God born from eternity is meant. This is because the Roman Catholics have made Mary the mother more holy than all others, and have exalted her as a goddess or queen over all their saints. When, however, the Lord glorified His Human He put off everything belonging to His mother, and put on everything belonging to His Father. This shall be fully shown in subsequent pages of this work. From this saying, so common with all, that the Lord is the son of Mary, many enormities have flowed into the church; especially with those who have not taken into consideration what is said of the Lord in the Word; as that the Father and He are one, that He is in the Father and the Father in Him, that all things of the Father are His, that He called Jehovah His Father, and that Jehovah the Father called Him His Son. These enormities that have flowed into the church as a result of His being called the son of Mary, and not the Son of God, are, that the idea of Divinity in respect to the Lord perishes, and with it all that is said of Him in the Word as the Son of God; also that through this, Judaism, Arianism, Socinianism, Calvinism, as it was at its beginning, gain entrance, and at length Naturalism, and with it the insane notion that He was the son of Mary by Joseph, and that His soul was from the mother; and therefore that He is not the Son of God, although He is so called. Let everyone, whether clergyman or layman, question himself whether he has conceived and cherishes any other idea of the Lord as the son of Mary than that He was merely man. Because even in the third century, when Arianism arose, such an idea had begun to prevail among Christians, the Nicene Council, for the purpose of maintaining the Divinity of the Lord, fabricated a Son of God born from eternity. By this fiction the Human of the Lord was then exalted, and with many is still exalted, to Divinity; but it is not so exalted with those who by the hypostatic union understand a union like that between two beings, one of whom is superior and the other inferior. Yet what else results from this than the destruction of the entire Christian church,

The Kingdom Perspective
The Athanasian Creed

The Kingdom Perspective

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 20, 2024 1:55


Transcript:Hello this is Pastor Don of Christ Redeemer Church. Welcome to The Kingdom Perspective. One of my favorite ancient creeds, the Athanasian Creed (c. 6th century), though not written by its namesake (A.D. c. 296-373) is nonetheless appropriately attributed to him. Athanasius was the great 4th century church leader who defended the Trinity against false views that followed a general pattern of denying or twisting one biblical truth to make it more “rationally compatible” with another. So, for example, if the Bible says there is only one true God, then there cannot likewise be three divine persons. How is it “rational” for God to be both one and three at the same time? The problem of course is that this is precisely what the Bible does claim.  And so, with precision and eloquence the Athanasian Creed* summarizes the divine mystery of the Triune God: … we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity;Neither confounding the persons nor dividing the divine essence.For there is one person of the Father,another of the Son,and another of the Holy Spirit. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit is all one,the glory equal, the majesty coeternal…. The Father uncreated, the Son uncreated, and the Holy Spirit uncreated. The Father incomprehensible, the Son incomprehensible, and the Holy Spirit incomprehensible. The Father eternal, the Son eternal, and the Holy Spirit eternal.  And yet they are not three eternal beings but one eternal beingAs also there are not three uncreated beings nor three incomprehensible beings, but one uncreated and one incomprehensible being. Well put! Beautiful and true! Something to think about from The Kingdom Perspective. “And Jesus came and said to them, ‘All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.'”~ Matthew 28:18-20 (ESV) *Athanasian Creed1. Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith; 2. Which faith except every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. 3. And the catholic faith is this: That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity;4. Neither confounding the persons nor dividing the substance.5. For there is one person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Spirit. 6.  But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit is all one, the glory equal, the majesty coeternal. 7.  Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Spirit. 8.  The Father uncreated, the Son uncreated, and the Holy Spirit uncreated. 9.  The Father incomprehensible, the Son incomprehensible, and the Holy Spirit incomprehensible. 10. The Father eternal, the Son eternal, and the Holy Spirit eternal. 11. And yet they are not three eternals but one eternal. 12. As also there are not three uncreated nor three incomprehensible, but one uncreated and one incomprehensible. 13. So likewise the Father is almighty, the Son almighty, and the Holy Spirit almighty. 14. And yet they are not three almighties, but one almighty. 15. So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God; 16. And yet they are not three Gods, but one God. 17. So likewise the Father is Lord, the Son Lord, and the Holy Spirit Lord; 18. And yet they are not three Lords but one Lord. 19. For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity to acknowledge every Person by himself to be God and Lord; 20. So are we forbidden by the catholic religion to say; There are three Gods or three Lords. 21. The Father is made of none, neither created nor begotten. 22. The Son is of the Father alone; not made nor created, but begotten. 23. The Holy Spirit is of the Father and of the Son; neither made, nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding. 24. So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Spirit, not three Holy Spirits. 25. And in this Trinity none is afore or after another; none is greater or less than another. 26. But the whole three persons are coeternal, and coequal. 27. So that in all things, as aforesaid, the Unity in Trinity and the Trinity in Unity is to be worshipped. 28. He therefore that will be saved must thus think of the Trinity. 29. Furthermore it is necessary to everlasting salvation that he also believe rightly the incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. 30. For the right faith is that we believe and confess that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and man. 31. God of the substance of the Father, begotten before the worlds; and man of substance of His mother, born in the world. 32. Perfect God and perfect man, of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting. 33. Equal to the Father as touching His Godhead, and inferior to the Father as touching His manhood. 34. Who, although He is God and man, yet He is not two, but one Christ. 35. One, not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh, but by taking of that manhood into God. 36. One altogether, not by confusion of substance, but by unity of person. 37. For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one man, so God and man is one Christ;38. Who suffered for our salvation, descended into hell, rose again the third day from the dead; 39. He ascended into heaven, He sits on the right hand of the Father, God, Almighty; 40. From thence He shall come to judge the quick and the dead. 41. At whose coming all men shall rise again with their bodies; 42. And shall give account of their own works. 43. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting and they that have done evil into everlasting fire.44. This is the catholic faith, which except a man believe faithfully he cannot be saved.

Sermons For Everyday Living
Trinity & The Athanasian Creed - Sermons 06/15/24

Sermons For Everyday Living

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 15, 2024 55:25


The Holy Trinity & The Athanasian Creed *The Wisdom of God *The Divine Trinity

Sermons For Everyday Living
Trinity & The Athanasian Creed - Sermons 06/10/24

Sermons For Everyday Living

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 10, 2024 55:25


The Holy Trinity & The Athanasian Creed *The Wisdom of God *The Divine Trinity

Baptist 21
Episode 156: B21 Leaders' Preview SBC 2024

Baptist 21

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 5, 2024 60:58


In this episode, Nate Akin, Jed Coppenger, & Josh Powell discuss SBC 2024 and topics such as: the Presidential election, Law Amendment, Cooperation Committee, changes to the BFM, ARITF Report, & more. ___ NOTE - In this episode, Nate Akin stated to the best of his knowledge no Baptist confession inserts the Nicene Creed. However, Joe Harrod points out in “An Orthodox Creed (1678)”; “This confession was the only Baptist statement that integrated ancient Christian creeds (Apostles' Creed, Nicene Creed, Athanasian Creed).”

Sermons of Fr Paul Robinson SSPX
Believe or Be Condemned, Sermon by Fr. Paul Robinson, SSPX

Sermons of Fr Paul Robinson SSPX

Play Episode Listen Later May 26, 2024 19:01


We are tempted today by the false idea of religious indifferentism: this is the idea that all religions are equally good, that they all lead to Heaven.The Athanasian Creed is very clear in saying the opposite. Its opening words say the following: “Whoever wills to be in a state of salvation, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith, which except everyone shall have kept whole and undefiled without doubt he will perish eternally. Now the catholic faith is that we worship One God in Trinity and Trinity in Unity, neither confounding the Persons nor dividing the substance.”These words, while they represent what we believe, are very jarring to modern ears. Modern people say: “Why is this the case? How is it that we can be damned to Hell for a single false belief? “How can God damn me to Hell for the way that I think? Did He not give me free will? Why would He care what I think?”1. The truth is part of what gets you to Heaven. You cannot get to Heaven without the truth. The truth of the Trinity is a truth about God Himself. It is God telling you Who He is. If God tells you who He is and you refuse to believe it and worship something else, then you are not worshiping the true God. You are worshiping a false god!2. Heresy is a sin against God. We are obliged to obey Him because we are His creatures. If God tells me Who He is and tells me to believe Him, then I sin against Him by rejecting what He has said. I am saying that I do not believe Him. I am saying that I do not want Him. This is why belief in the Trinity was so important for Our Lord. Remember what He said:“Go and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you” (Matt. 28:19-20). “He who believes and is baptized shall be saved, but he that believes not shall be condemned” (Mk. 16:16)This is why the martyrs throughout the history of the Church were willing to die rather than deny the faith. They realized that when they were being asked to deny the faith, they were being asked to make a choice: lose your physical life or lose your eternal life.

Simply Put
Athanasian Creed

Simply Put

Play Episode Listen Later May 21, 2024 6:24


Athanasius fought against one particular heresy for most of his life. In this episode, Barry Cooper explains what the heresy was--and why it was so difficult to defeat. Read the transcript: https://simplyputpodcast.com/athanasian-creed/ A donor-supported outreach of Ligonier Ministries. Explore all of our podcasts: https://www.ligonier.org/podcasts

The Lutheran Ladies' Lounge from KFUO Radio
#242. Rachel's Trivia Challenge: Church Feasts, Festivals, and Ordinary Time

The Lutheran Ladies' Lounge from KFUO Radio

Play Episode Listen Later May 17, 2024 49:39


Following up on her earlier foray into liturgical calendar trivia last Advent, Rachel here offers “The Church Year, Part 2.”  Tackling Pentecost, Trinity Sunday, Ordinary Time, Michaelmas, saints' days, the Last Sunday, and more, Rachel quizzes Erin and Sarah with 16 questions ranging from easy to expert level. Will Rachel manage to stump her smarty-pants cohosts? Will they be able to stop laughing long enough to remember whether or not Athanasius wrote the Athanasian Creed? Find out in the latest installment of Rachel's Trivia Challenge.   “I've said it before, but I'll say it again: humans need holidays,” Rachel reminds us. “ We need feasts and fasts and seasons to break up the monotony of our days. The church calendar gives us that, and we'd be fools not to accept the gift. Because when we let our holy-days go, we find ourselves with a string of ho-hum secular holidays instead.”  Select sources referenced in this episode:  Sundays and Seasons - Church Year (lcms.org)  What Ordinary Time Means in the Catholic Church (learnreligions.com)  Connect with the Lutheran Ladies on social media in The Lutheran Ladies' Lounge Facebook discussion group (facebook.com/groups/LutheranLadiesLounge) and on Instagram @lutheranladieslounge. Follow Sarah (@hymnnerd), Rachel (@rachbomberger), and Erin (@erinaltered) on Instagram! Sign up for the Lutheran Ladies' Lounge monthly e-newsletter here, and email the Ladies at lutheranladies@kfuo.org.

Every Moment His
Intro to the Creed

Every Moment His

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 7, 2024 33:43


Why do we even need creeds?  What function do they play in the life of the church? The Apostles Creed, Nicean Creed and the Athanasian Creed all shape the Christian Church and show us the boundaries of what teachings are Christian, and which are heresy.

Stand to Reason Weekly Podcast
Why Is the Question of Significance so Important?

Stand to Reason Weekly Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 22, 2024 58:00


Greg answers questions about whether one must believe in eternal generation to be saved, why the question of significance is so important, reconciling Matthew 7:21–23 with grace, and justifying self-defense in light of Jesus telling us to turn the other cheek.   Topics: Is my salvation at stake if I don't believe in eternal generation, contrary to the Athanasian Creed? (01:00) Why is the question of significance the most important question facing America today? (11:00) How do you reconcile Matthew 7:21–23 (“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of Heaven”) with other verses, like Ephesians 2:8–9, that describe a gospel of grace? (23:00) Taking into consideration Matthew 5:38–39, where Jesus says to turn the other cheek, how do we justify self-defense? (42:00) Mentioned on the Show:  The Deep Things of God: How the Trinity Changes Everything by Fred Sanders Retrieving Eternal Generation – Edited by Fred Sanders and Scott Swain Submit a question on the Open Mic Line Reality Student Apologetics Conference – March 22–23, 2024 in Philadelphia, PA; April 19–20, 2024 in Augusta, GA

Heart of Flesh
Unity in Trinity & Trinity in Unity

Heart of Flesh

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 15, 2024 49:11


In this episode, Joshua Molden and I give an introduction to the Doctrine of the Trinity. After establishing our need of the Scriptures for a sufficient knowledge of God (previous episode), we now begin to examine what the Scriptures reveal to us about God, and we begin with this glorious doctrine of the Trinity. Our goal in the episode is to lay out and defend three statements that the Bible teaches about God, and endeavor to show how they fit together. Our goal is not to remove all the mystery of the Doctrine of the Trinity, but only to bring some helpful clarity.There is only one true and living GodThe one God exists eternally as a Trinity of Persons (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit)Each person is fully GodIf you'd like to study this issue more, a great resource to look at is the Athanasian Creed

The Upper Room Podcast
Anchoring Faith: The Power of Catechism and Creed in Christian Education

The Upper Room Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 29, 2024 52:16 Transcription Available


Embark on a profound exploration of Christian education as we delve into the significance of catechism and its indispensable role in faith formation. Revel in moments of personal triumph we share, before traversing the rich history and enduring relevance of this instructional method. We uncover how the time-honored tradition of question-and-answer teaching, exemplified by Martin Luther's work and the Heidelberg Catechism, anchors believers in their faith journey, offering a bulwark against the shifting sands of secular narratives.In a culture quick to question the absolutes, we emphasize the invaluable role of creeds and confessions in preserving the essence of Christian doctrine against the backdrop of historical heresies. The Apostles' Creed and the Athanasian Creed stand as testaments to the church's commitment to doctrinal integrity. As guardians of the faith, it is our mantle to instill these truths in the hearts of the next generation, ensuring they are well-equipped to articulate and defend their beliefs amidst a world brimming with conflicting ideologies.As we wrap up our conversation, the focus turns to the practical aspects of nurturing young minds in the Christian tradition. Analogous to the "Karate Kid," we hone in on the importance of a spiritual education that builds resilience and conviction from a tender age. We leave no stone unturned in our call to action for parents and mentors: to steadfastly impart biblical principles, thus fortifying our children's spiritual foundations against the encroaching tide of secularism. Tune in for a stirring and thought-provoking discussion that will inspire you to cultivate a legacy of faith that endures.Support the show

To Be a Christian: The Anglican Catechism in a Year
Day 21. Which creeds has this church received? (2024)

To Be a Christian: The Anglican Catechism in a Year

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 21, 2024 9:27


Today is day 21 and we are in the section Concerning the Creeds on question 21. Since today's question does not include scripture references, we will be reading two of the three creeds received by the ACNA - the Nicene Creed and Athanasian Creed. The third, The Apostles' Creed, will be read on day 24. 21. Which creeds has this church received? This church believes the Apostles' Creed, the Nicene Creed, and the Athanasian Creed. (Articles of Religion, 8) Our prayer today is The Collect for Trinity Sunday found on page 608 of the Book of Common Prayer (2019). If you would like to buy or download To Be a Christian, head to anglicanchurch.net/catechism. Produced by Holy Trinity Anglican Church in Madison, MS. Original music from Matthew Clark. Daily collects and Psalms are taken from Book of Common Prayer (2019), created by the Anglican Church in North America and published by the Anglican Liturgical Press. Used by permission. All rights reserved. Scripture quotations are from The ESV® Bible (The Holy Bible, English Standard Version®), copyright © 2001 by Crossway, a publishing ministry of Good News Publishers. Used by permission. All rights reserved. Catechism readings are taken from To Be a Christian - An Anglican Catechism Approved Edition, copyright © 2020 by The Anglican Church in North America by Crossway a publishing ministry of Good News Publishers. Used by permission. All rights reserved.

Redeeming Truth Podcast
EP 128 | Why Christians Need the Creeds w/ Nate Pickowicz | Redeeming Truth

Redeeming Truth Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 6, 2023 18:59


EP 128 | Why Christians Need the Creeds w/ Nate Pickowicz | Redeeming Truth   Pastor Nate Pickowicz joins Jon Benzinger on the Redeeming Truth Podcast to discuss his new book "Christ and Creed: The Early Church Creeds and Their Value for Today," an accessible guide to the early church creeds. Nate explains their history, biblical basis, and modern relevance for clearly articulating Christian beliefs.   Click here to Subscribe to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCenfIkvDIJa4Qb4WgsH8hkw?sub_confirmation=1   Follow us on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/redeemerbibleaz/   For more information about Redeemer Bible Church in Gilbert, Arizona, or to help support this ministry, please visit us at https://www.redeemeraz.org   Join our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/redeemeraz   Follow us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/redeemeraz   Never miss a sermon, find our Redeeming Truth Podcast in your favorite player, and subscribe!

The B.A.R. Podcast
Christ & Creed - Nate Pickowicz

The B.A.R. Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 28, 2023 54:13


About the Author –Nate Pickowicz is the teaching pastor of Harvest Bible Church in Gilmanton Iron Works, New Hampshire. He is also the author of several books including ‘Why We're Protestant', ‘The American Puritans', and ‘How to Eat Your Bible'. He and his wife, Jessica, have three children.Pastor, Harvest Bible Church, Gilmanton Iron Works, New HampshireAbout the book –From the Latin word credo, meaning ‘I believe', creeds are statements of personal belief. They have been used throughout the history of the church to helpfully condense the fundamental beliefs of the Christian faith. They are a valuable in that they–       Summarize Christian truth–       Testify to what the Church has always believed–       Help us be precise in how we express truth–       Guard us against heresy and error–       Unify believers who share the same testimonyIn Christ & Creed Nate Pickowicz helpfully examines the early major ecumenical creeds, providing historical context and highlighting the distinctives in the Apostles' Creed, the Nicene Creed, the Definition of Chalcedon and the Athanasian Creed. He shows how these statements are still invaluable for the church today. It also includes a glossary of terms and recommended further reading. Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100063520689857Twitter/X - https://twitter.com/NatePickowiczLink for book - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Christ-Creed-Early-Church-Creeds/dp/1527110400/ref=sr_1_1?crid=15MYNGKOPJUYX&keywords=christ+and+creed&qid=1693582690&sprefix=christ+and+creed%2Caps%2C75&sr=8-1Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-b-a-r-podcast/exclusive-contentAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy