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Episode 252FACULTY: Ron BakerCLASS: #TheGuideScotty's back in the Office with our Principal, Ron Baker, and he has a copy of "The Creative Act: A Way of Being" by Rick Rubin. In this book report, they cover a wide range of topics, including creativity in art and accounting, the quest for efficiency, the role of humor in art, and the importance of paying attention to your surroundings. The conversation also touches on the challenges of being an entrepreneur and artist, the subjective nature of value, and the evolution of an artist's work. This engaging and thought-provoking discussion is a must-listen for anyone interested in creativity, art, or entrepreneurship. Tune in to hear more from Scott and Ron on "The Creative Act" and its many insights.All the Shoutouts:Greg Kyte, CPA, Rick Rubin, Broken Record, Jason Ackerman, CPA, CFP®, CGMA, Times up, Jasper, Conversations with Tyler, South Park, Arthur Schopenhauer, John Wooten, James Clear, Simon Sinek, Tim Williams, Nikole Mackenzie, David C. Baker, Caddyshack, Dave Chappelle, Terrell A Turner, CPA, Kenji Kuramoto, James Ashford, Michelle Weinstein, Tim Ferriss, Leonard Cohen, Bob Dylan, John Lennon, Eminem, Paul McCartney, Beatles, Elvis Presley, Sage, Thriveal, The Crux, Momentum Accounting, Inc, Mortimer J. Adler

In this solo Thrivecast episode, Jason reflects on opportunities that the new year brings. He shares the sad conclusion of the Businessology Show and said goodbye to make way for new ventures and focused growth. He emphasizes the importance of recommitting to new paths in the services industry and highlights Thriveal's exciting future plans. He invites listeners to join him in embracing change, growing their businesses, and finding new ways to provide value to clients. Join us as we embark on this journey into the new year with renewed energy and a commitment to growth and innovation!

Check out Jason's podcast https://thriveal.com/thrivecast/His YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@ThrivealCPANetworkAnd his community, Thriveal https://thriveal.com/community/

John Randolph resumes his conversation with Jason Blumer of Thriveal and Blumer CPAs on Episode 39 of CPA Life. Continuing their focus on strategies for firm growth, they tackle the complex problem of team management in the modern, often remote-based accounting world, stressing that leadership comes from the relationship leaders have with their charges, and that time spent cultivating that relationship has a far better return on investment in most cases than client work. Niching also plays a key role in maximizing any firm's potential, while often being a rewarding, interesting path to take. Get the full show notes and more resources at CPALifePodcast.com

Jason Blumer, CEO of Blumer CPAs and Thriveal, joins John Randolph for part one of their conversation on Episode 38 of CPA Life. Discussing his journey of building a sustainable CPA firm and the importance of intentional leadership, Jason explains that the entire concept behind Thriveal is that he made a lot of mistakes and had a lot of wrong ideas about entrepreneurship, and he wants to guide entrepreneurs with intentionality so they don't make those same mistakes. Jason stresses, and John agrees, that community-driven culture is a key to firm growth and employee satisfaction, the details of which they discuss at length, with a lead-in to part two, which airs May 22nd, 2024. Get the full show notes and more resources at CPALifePodcast.com

The show I'm at - if you're in the UK, worth checking out next year! https://digitalaccountancy.com/Accounting Cornerstone Foundation https://accountingcornerstone.org/

Intentionality can bring freedom and joy.The DisruptorsWith Liz FarrWhen Jason Blumer and Julie Shipp joined forces to build Blumer CPAs more than a decade ago, they eschewed the traditional partnership structure, where decision-making power depends on ownership percentage. Instead, Blumer said, “We figured out the ownership is a legal reflection of the companies, but they do not reflect anything we do together in our roles.”  10 MORE TAKEAWAYS: Blumer CPAs show notes here MORE: Disruptors MORE CPA TRENDLINES PODCASTS and VIDEOS:  James Graham: Drop the Billable Hour and You'll Bill More | Karen Reyburn: Fix Your Marketing and Fix Your Business | Giles Pearson: Fix the Staffing Crisis by Swapping Experience for Education | Jina Etienne: Practice Fearless Inclusion | Bill Penczak: Stop Forcing Smart People to Do Stupid Work | Jason Deshayes: What We're Doing Isn't Working | Heather Satterley: You've Got To Meet People Where They Are | Bill Penczak: Stop Forcing Smart People to Do Stupid Work Together, they also formed Thriveal, a support community for accounting firm owners. Blumer is the CEO and visionary for the firm and Shipp is the COO and integrator. This separation of ownership from roles allows them to both to be, as Shipp said, “100% in my role and have 100% the authority of my role.”  In their first year of working together, Shipp said, “We were crossing in and out of each other's lanes,” as visionary and integrator, which, she explained, “diluted the work we could do together.” They found that becoming clear on their roles allows them both to leverage their best gifts and abilities. 

The first episode of The Unique CPA in 2024, Episode 137, features Jason Blumer of Blumer CPAs, Thriveal, and Deeper Weekend. Jason started Thriveal to support accounting firm owners by building a community and resources for them to seek support. As he tells Randy, this led to Deeper Weekend, his exclusive annual conference for around a hundred accounting firm owners. The event fosters peer learning and relationships through workshops and socializing, with the fundamental idea behind it being that people have had successes and mistakes before you and there are always things to discover by building connections with them. Get the full show notes and more resources at TheUniqueCPA.com

Season 4 Episode 65 CLASS: #GuidePosts FACULTY: Jason Blumer, CPA TITLE: Thriving Through Collaboration: The Benefits of Group Play In this podcast episode, Scott interviews Jason Blumer, an entrepreneur and accountant who founded his own firm and co-founded the Thriveal community. Throughout the episode, Jason shares his experiences and insights on entrepreneurship, community building, and overcoming failures. He talks about how he started his own accounting firm and his motivations for growing it, as well as the challenges he faced in building the Thriveal community. Jason tells his story of becoming an accountant and his passion for music Jason recalls the early days in business with his father Jason explains what motivated him to grow his business Jason talks about the founding and early days of Thriveal Scott and Jason discuss failure and bouncing back from it They also talk about getting out of your own way and letting people help you Scott and Jason compare running two companies to growing multiple crops Jason is asked to become Accounting High faculty Shout Outs: Jason Statham, Jason Bateman, Jason Ackerman, Jason Staats, Jason Presley, Jason Lee Sudakis, Julie Ship, Greg Kite, Ron Baker, Verisage, Doug Sleeter, Darren Root, RootWorks, Simon Sinek, Ian Basin, Karbon --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/accountinghigh/message

Season 4 Episode 55 | Recorded January 30, 2023 Accounting High is supported by our Booster Club Members Thank you AppStream! Powered by the GrowthLab Music Video for Simple Tasks! In this episode of Accounting High, Scott interviews Keila Hill-Trawick, a CPA who is doing things differently in her own firm called Little Fish Accounting. Keila shares how she got into accounting and the story behind the unique name of her firm. She also discusses her team, niche, priorities, and the apps they use to improve productivity. With a focus on community, Keila shares some great insights on how to stay motivated and continue to grow in the profession. This is an episode you won't want to miss! Interview: Keila talks about her journey into accounting and starting her own firm They discuss the importance of doing things differently and why she chose to focus on smaller clients Keila shares the hard numbers of her firm and her role in it They discuss the importance of having a strong team and niche Keila talks about her priorities, communication tools, and the apps she uses to increase efficiency and capacity They touch on the importance of community and how March Appness can help choose the right tools Keila also talks about the books that inspire her and the importance of embracing failure and taking breaks Closing: The Simple Tasks rap Scott and Keila wrap up the episode Shoutouts: ClickUp, Slack, Karbon, Keeper, Drake, Tallyfor, Zapier, Fathom, QuickBooks, TaxDome, Thriveal, David Barrett, Expensify --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/accountinghigh/message

Season 4 Episode 42 | Recorded Februrary 21, 2023 Scotty's back in the Office with our Principal, Ron Baker, and he has a copy of "The Creative Act: A Way of Being" by Rick Rubin. In this book report, they cover a wide range of topics, including creativity in art and accounting, the quest for efficiency, the role of humor in art, and the importance of paying attention to your surroundings. The conversation also touches on the challenges of being an entrepreneur and artist, the subjective nature of value, and the evolution of an artist's work. This engaging and thought-provoking discussion is a must-listen for anyone interested in creativity, art, or entrepreneurship. Tune in to hear more from Scott and Ron on "The Creative Act" and its many insights. Entering the principal's office… Rick Rubin Comparing Ron to Rick Ron's first thoughts - Anyone can be creative Spirituality and Art Output in art and accounting and the efficiency quest Jasper Report AI usage Humor and Art are confrontational The quest for efficiency Childlike wonder and awe Repackaging old ideas with new insight Patience versus Efficiency Unique art alienates and divides Purpose being debatable Race and color tweets and being offendable Alienating yourself and following your intuition Paying attention to your surroundings Seeing the signs around you R.A.A.P. Book MAAP Being a conduit for inspiration Everyone does things their own way Entrepreneur and Artist Sharing versus Scarcity A few quotes How the book was written and what makes it special The new rap name and new rap Writing the rap Profitability and Cash Flow Habits to get things done Value is subjective You'll never make it Evolution of an artist Our own filters and unique voices We like different takes Artist vs Entrepreneurs The suffering artist Superintendents, boards, field trips ABC tournament and the Anti-Conference Book Reports on going Summary of the book How to read a book Writing How to RAAP On the Crux: A challenge about value Wrapping up All the Shoutouts: Greg Kyte, CPA, Rick Rubin, Broken Record, Jason Ackerman, CPA, CFP®, CGMA, Times up, Jasper, Conversations with Tyler, South Park, Arthur Schopenhauer, John Wooten, James Clear, Simon Sinek, Tim Williams, Nikole Mackenzie, David C. Baker, Caddyshack, Dave Chappelle, Terrell A Turner, CPA, Kenji Kuramoto, James Ashford, Michelle Weinstein, Tim Ferriss, Leonard Cohen, Bob Dylan, John Lennon, Eminem, Paul McCartney, Beatles, Elvis Presley, Sage, Thriveal, The Crux, Momentum Accounting, Inc, Mortimer J. Adler --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/accountinghigh/message

We're sad to see our series with Sonia Dumas come to an end, but we're so excited about the information we got to cover today! In this episode, Sonia talks Jason through ways accountants and firms can apply crypto to their payroll, payments, and perks—a game-changer for future-leaning firms. She provides some forecasts and predictions once again and gives our listeners some key insights as a parting gift. Check it out! Bonus for Thrivecast Listeners: altmonie.com/cpasrock As a bonus for listening, access actionable onchain-intelligence that tracks the trends of cryptocurrencies. Follow Thriveal on social media: Twitter: twitter.com/THRIVEalCPAs Instagram: instagram.com/thrivealcpas/ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/thriveal/ Facebook: facebook.com/THRIVEal Join the Thriveal community: thriveal.com/apply/

The CEO and creator of Blumer & Associates, Jason M. Blumer, originates from Greenville, South Carolina, in the United States. He has a lot of business expertise because he also works in a thriving community in addition to managing a full-time CPA practice. Jason went to Wofford College and studied accounting. Countercultural business owners are encouraged by Thriveal to embrace their entrepreneurial originality in their line of work. They are business leaders in the community who want to make a difference. Go to: www.tech4accountants.net --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/rush-tech-support/message

Sonia Dumas continues her conversation with Jason about the pros and cons of the crypto wave. Today, they talk about some upcoming trends, which coins to steer clear from, financial censorship, and much more. Firm leaders will want to soak this one up to understand if integrating crypto into your clients' services is a good move for you. As a bonus for listening, access actionable onchain-intelligence that tracks the trends of cryptocurrencies for just $1: altmonie.com/cpasrock Follow Thriveal on social media: Twitter: twitter.com/THRIVEalCPAs Instagram: instagram.com/thrivealcpas/ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/thriveal/ Facebook: facebook.com/THRIVEal Join the Thriveal community: thriveal.com/apply/

Sonia Dumas joins us again on the Thrivecast to continue our series on cryptocurrency. We've already covered the theory of crypto in part 1 of this series, so Sonia talks Jason through some practical applications of this new-age currency. She outlines the key points of her analytical approach to buying and selling, along with some advice on trading altogether. She levels with Jason on what today's buyers and sellers should expect in this ever-changing landscape. Prepare to have your minds blown in this one! As a bonus for listening, access actionable onchain-intelligence that tracks the trends of cryptocurrencies for just $1: altmonie.com/cpasrock Follow Thriveal on social media: Twitter: twitter.com/THRIVEalCPAs Instagram: instagram.com/thrivealcpas/ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/thriveal/ Facebook: facebook.com/THRIVEal Join the Thriveal community: thriveal.com/apply/

Sonia Dumas is a crypto investor and educator, seeking to help accountants better understand how they can use crypto in their profession. She's an expert in this field, and her wealth of knowledge makes it necessary to break this topic up into 4 separate episodes. In Part 1, she walks Jason through Web3, the future of internet that includes blockchain and token-based economics. Uhh, what? That's what we said too. So plug in get ready to expand your understanding of the crypto world with Sonia! As a bonus for listening, access actionable onchain-intelligence that tracks the trends of cryptocurrencies for just $1: altmonie.com/cpasrock Follow Thriveal on social media: Twitter: twitter.com/THRIVEalCPAs Instagram: instagram.com/thrivealcpas/ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/thriveal/ Facebook: facebook.com/THRIVEal Join the Thriveal community: thriveal.com/apply/

Jason sits down with one of his mentors, Peter Block, an author and consultant whose work is deeply rooted in the power of human connection. In this episode, Peter shares insights on why firm owners need to realize that their profession isn't just about accounting. Listen on to find out why this shift in thinking is critical to your organization's success. Follow Thriveal on social media: Twitter: twitter.com/THRIVEalCPAs Instagram: instagram.com/thrivealcpas/ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/thriveal/ Facebook: facebook.com/THRIVEal Join the Thriveal community: thriveal.com/apply/

Last episode, Jason gave everyone an overview of the Prototype Components Model for Growth, our proprietary program. We're digging a little deeper today to take a look at 2 specific pieces of the puzzle: the Scaling L and the Capacity Exchange Bridge. These are critical elements to understand if you're looking to grow your firm sustainably! Grab that notepad and buckle up—let's get to learning! Want to follow along with the slides? Grab them here: https://thriveal.com/thrivecast/ Interested in joining a Thriveal program? Learn more about them: https://thriveal.com/programs/ Follow Thriveal on social media: Twitter: twitter.com/THRIVEalCPAs Instagram: instagram.com/thrivealcpas/ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/thriveal/ Facebook: facebook.com/THRIVEal Join the Thriveal community: thriveal.com/apply/

In this episode of the Duct Tape Marketing Podcast, I interview Jason Blumer. Jason is a Co-founder of Thriveal, a firm that helps entrepreneurial CPA firms connect, learn and grow. He's also the CEO of Blumer CPAs where they serve as an advisory firm for the design, marketing, and creative agency services niches.

To kick off 2022, Jason is flying solo to drop some education about our proprietary program, the Prototype Components Model for Growth. If you've been wondering what it's like to participate in a Thriveal program, this is a great way to get your feet wet. Grab a beverage and tuck yourself in to learn all about the foundational principles we teach in our programs. Follow Thriveal on social media: Twitter: twitter.com/THRIVEalCPAs Instagram: instagram.com/thrivealcpas/ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/thriveal/ Facebook: facebook.com/THRIVEal Join the Thriveal community: thriveal.com/apply/ Want to follow along with the slides? Grab them here: https://thriveal.com/thrivecast/ Interested in joining a Thriveal program? Learn more about them: https://thriveal.com/programs/

Bill Sheridan is a major player in the accounting sphere. He's what we'd call an "honorary CPA," and is currently the Chief Communications Officer for the Maryland Association of CPAs. Although he's a journalist first, he's been extremely influential for CPAs around the country. He shares with Jason the changes he's sees coming soon for the accounting field. Listen to this episode to stay ahead of the game! Follow Thriveal on social media: Twitter: twitter.com/THRIVEalCPAs Instagram: instagram.com/thrivealcpas/ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/thriveal/ Facebook: facebook.com/THRIVEal Join the Thriveal community: thriveal.com/apply/

Tim Williams' insights on positioning for agencies and firms have been published EVERYWHERE, including The Economist and The Wall Street Journal. His book, "Positioning for Professionals," is a must-read for leaders in any industry, but it has especially valuable information for the accounting world. In this episode, Tim and Jason dive even deeper into the science of positioning, including how accounting firms can capitalize on their markets' psychology. Follow Thriveal on social media: Twitter: twitter.com/THRIVEalCPAs Instagram: instagram.com/thrivealcpas/ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/thriveal/ Facebook: facebook.com/THRIVEal Join the Thriveal community: thriveal.com/apply/

Few encapsulate the title of accounting leader more than this episode's guest, Jason Blumer. Together, Jason and Stuart discuss the background and success of Thriveal, the network Jason founded to help other entrepreneurial CPA firm owners connect, learn and grow. They also discuss the trend of larger firms acquiring smaller firms, the challenges of growth, why you need to know your strengths and weaknesses, and how you can use that knowledge to define your purpose, lean into it, and help your own firm thrive.Together they discuss The origin of Thriveal (3:40) The importance of resilience and perseverance (5:50) “Whistleblower” podcast, basketball and referees (6:40) The biggest changes in accounting in the last decade (9:00) The evolution of accounting conferences and education (11:00) Why large firms acquire smaller firms (13:30) The advantages for smaller firms of selling to larger firms (16:00) Challenges scaling your firm (16:50) Building culture when your team is virtual (19:00) Equity, staff compensation and partnerships (22:30) Success stories from Thriveal Deeper Weekend (27:20) Teaching accounting firm growth in different ways (30:30) The firm that went through turmoil and then thrived (31:45) Quality over quantity (36:00) Knowing your strengths and weaknesses is a pretty cool place to be (37:50) Why every accounting firm needs a purpose (40:40) The impact of the global pandemic on the accounting industry (42:10) The value of experience (45:00)

Kylene O'Connor Carse from BWCO CPAs joins the Accounting Leaders Podcast this week to share her story with Stuart. In an honest chat, they discuss the challenges of constantly being busy and how to balance that when you also have a family. Kylene also talks about capacity planning, burnout, running a female-only firm, and even Peloton. Any accountant who has ever felt the pressure of deadlines and an always-growing workload will relate to this episode. Together they discuss: The story of BWCO CPAs and Kylene's entry to accounting (1:40) Growing up with your clients (5:20) What it means to be a female-only firm (7:20) Being proud of who you are (9:40) Figuring out where you want to go and how you want to grow (10:00) Marchternity and being over-capacity (12:10) Avoiding burnout (16:20) Getting on the Peleton bike (19:20) Lessons from Jason Blumer and Thriveal (21:00) The pitfalls of Slack and Zoom (21:50) Raising kids when you own an accounting firm (23:20) Storms and changing tax deadlines (28:20)

Dan Mall is the CEO, Founder, and Creative Director at SuperFriendly Design Systems, a one-of-a-kind creative agency. On this episode, Jason picks Dan's brain about positioning for accountants. Specifically, why it's important for firms to take steps to position themselves in the accounting marketplace. This really informative discussion is a little bit different, but SUPER valuable to firm owners. Get your pens and notepads ready! Follow Thriveal on social media: Twitter: twitter.com/THRIVEalCPAs Instagram: instagram.com/thrivealcpas/ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/thriveal/ Facebook: facebook.com/THRIVEal Join the Thriveal community: thriveal.com/apply

In 2016 Greg started Exposure Drafts, a cartoon series for the accounting profession. His cartoons have been featured on GoingConcern.com, and he has created custom cartoons for Intuit and the Thriveal CPA Network. His cartoons are also available as holiday cards from RuBook Creative (rubookcreative.com). Greg has been performing stand up comedy since 2002, and has brought that experience, energy, and humor to the stage as the emcee for Xero's Xerocon and Thriveal's Deeper Weekend conference, and this October to Gusto's Gusto Next conference. Gregs experience as a comedian and as a teacher (He taught junior high math for ten years in a former life) have allowed him to create entertaining, engaging, NASBA-certified CPE content. Literally tens of thousands of CPAs have attended his fraud and behavioral ethics courses on the CPA Academy and Encoursa platforms. Greg has also created custom CPE content for Gusto and Xero. Greg is also a licensed CPA in the State of Utah where I'm the controller for a group of medical office buildings. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/rush-tech-support/message

Joe Erwin is the founder of Erwin Penland (now EP+co), a massive advertising agency located in Greenville, SC. He's also the owner of the Greenville Triumph, a professional soccer team, and now leads Erwin Creates, a creative agency located in the Endeavor coworking space. Though his expertise is in a different field, Joe and Jason discuss the intricacies of managing teams in a service-based industry, including the importance of hiring and some basics for successful leadership. Follow Thriveal on social media: Twitter: twitter.com/THRIVEalCPAs Instagram: instagram.com/thrivealcpas/ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/thriveal/ Facebook: facebook.com/THRIVEal Join the Thriveal community: thriveal.com/apply

Blumer CPAs has mentored creative entrepreneurs towards growth for over two decades. They do this through metrics (helping entrepreneurs and nonprofit leaders know their accounting and tax numbers), financial advisory, and their own internally-developed growth models for service-based companies. Thriveal is a network of CPA firms in the United States and Canada whose main purpose is to support firm owners as they learn how to become better business owners and to lead them to understand the important role that innovation plays in the accounting profession.

Greg Lafollette is a prominent consultant, speaker, and overall accounting expert, specifically in the field of technology intergration to further the profession. Greg and Jason talk about how technology has led the accounting world to what it is today and what it may become tomorrow. Insights for your firm's future await! Follow Thriveal on social media: Twitter: twitter.com/THRIVEalCPAs Instagram: instagram.com/thrivealcpas/ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/thriveal/ Facebook: facebook.com/THRIVEal Join the Thriveal community: thriveal.com/apply/

Welcome back to Part 2 of this interview with Dr. Gruder. If you missed part 1 please pause and head back to episode 14 of the Create A New Tomorrow Podcast to be able to catch the whole interview. Dr. David Gruder is a twelve award winning integrative psychologist. He's president of the Integrity Culture Systems, which work focuses on what he calls self sovereignty, and that serves us all. He equips leaders, influencers and entrepreneurs who are called to repair and evolve the world in their own unique ways with inner, outer and spiritual skills to expand their positive impact. And a super change Catalyst's without sacrificing their lightheartedness, health, financial well-being or cherished personal and work relationships *Episode Highlights* *David* [00:01:53] You know, Stephen Covey, as you're very well aware of, who wrote Seven Habits of highly effective people, among other things, one of his principles that people regularly cite is the principle called Begin With the end in mind. *David* [00:02:08] I think he almost got it right, but not quite. Begin with the best possible end in mind. *Ari* [00:04:12] Yeah. You know, I've said that quite a lot. You know, when I hear people talk about the Constitution and how amazing it is, and I'll say it would be great if we actually tried to live by the ideals that we claim. Right. This week, we hear a lot of claims of what this country is at its finest possibility. But I've never seen. The attempt for it to be lived that way and understood that way. *David* [00:06:45] Right. Well, what you're speaking to right now, and I'm loving that you're bringing this up, Ari, is is again, you know, it's kind of like a variation on that on that UNICEF New Year's card that my family got. The greater peace will only come with this after the smaller peace we make with each other. *Ari* [00:10:34] And I think a lot of people mistaken in what integrity is to something outside of themselves, not something within themselves. Yes. In action that you take verses away, that you feel inside of you. And so I'd like you to talk a little bit more about integrity itself and how that relates to a person taking on actions outside of themselves before they do the work inside. *David* [00:11:10] Right. Which, of course, never works well, if we take actions outside of ourselves before we've done the inner work, then, you know, if if you're if we're taking action from a foundation of crap, we're gonna get crap. Very simple. *Ari* [00:21:40] Also, you know, I mean, we really have have a slippery slope when it comes to legislating morality, legislating vices and telling people what they can and can't do with their personal space. However, when you talk about companies, as you were saying earlier, and legislating what companies can do to people's space, that might be a little bit different. *David* [00:25:50] We have to remove the blocks to the awareness of love. Love's presence, presence. We have to learn how to be authentic. We have to change ourselves. We have to remove the traumas that stand between us and being authentic. So I think there is a fundamental universal. Morality, and it's built into our wiring. And when we can agree on what we have, yes, about then we can put our differences into a context that allow our differences to enrich UST rather than divide us. *David* [00:34:16] You've probably heard it, too, about the little boy who's out in the woods. And one day he sees this. This butterfly trying to make its way out of the cocoon. And he is standing there feeling what feels to him like deep compassion. All he wants to do is to rescue, save this this butterfly from the pain of of having to break out of its cocoon so it can fly away. And so he breaks the cocoon open and the butterfly falls dead to the ground. He picks up the butterfly. He runs home to to his mother and he's crying. And he said he's saying what? What happened? I tried to help this butterfly and it died. What? What a horrible person am I? What did I do wrong? *Ari* [00:37:11] And give us that path forward so that we can create a new tomorrow, so that we can activate our vision for a better world. And so that we can be these impactful Integris humans that we were designed to be. *Ari* [00:37:30] What would that path be? *Resources and Links* * *https://drgruder.com* * *https://drgruder.com/academy* * *https://CreateANewTomorrow.com* * *https://www.facebook.com/arigronich* *Full Transcription* *Ari&Davidpart2.mp3* *Ari* [00:00:02] Has it occurred to you that the systems we live by are not designed to get results? We pay for procedures instead of outcomes, focusing on emergencies rather than preventing disease and living a healthy lifestyle. *Ari* [00:00:14] For over 25 years, I've taken care of Olympians, Paralympians, A-list actors and Fortune 1000 companies. If I did not get results, they did not get results. I realized that while powerful people who controlled the system want to keep the status quo. If I were to educate the masses, you would demand change. So I'm taking the gloves off and going after the systems as they are. Join me on my mission to create a new tomorrow as a chat with industry experts. Elite athletes thought leaders and government officials about how we activate our vision for a better world. We may agree and we may disagree. But I'm not backing down. *Ari* [00:00:51] I'm Ari Gronich. And this is. Create a new tomorrow podcast. *Ari* [00:01:03] Welcome back to part two of this interview, if you missed the part one. Head back to the previous episode before you listen to this one. Now, we'll dive right into the conversation from the moment that we left off. Thanks again and welcome back. *Ari* [00:01:18] As an operational planner, along with all your other accolades. *Ari* [00:01:24] Right. If we were going to operationally plan this, which is basically taking it from the result that we want and working our way down to the beginning. *Ari* [00:01:36] What would be the first steps on that operational plan to shift the system as it is and start that development into a lack of insane, insanity? *David* [00:01:50] Right. *David* [00:01:53] You know, Stephen Covey, as you're very well aware of, who wrote Seven Habits of highly effective people, among other things, one of his principles that people regularly cite is the principle called Begin With the end in mind. *David* [00:02:08] I think he almost got it right, but not quite. Begin with the best possible end in mind. *David* [00:02:18] If we don't start with a utopian vision, if we don't start with a vision of what we want to strive toward, the ideal future that we're not going to have tomorrow. But we have a true north that we're that we're pointing toward. If we don't have that, then we don't have a country. This country, the United States, was birthed based in large part on and in a its origins, a utopian vision. And then they got to crafting the Constitution and made all kinds of compromises and disenfranchized certain people and allowed slavery to continue and all kinds of nasty, dark, shadowy stuff. But it started off as a vision. A vision of a society. That is functioning at the intersection of personal freedom and the common good, where all are considered to be equal in terms of their right to have opportunity to make of it as they will and where. The government was mandated to function and legislate at the intersection of what preserves individual freedom and what promotes the common good. That was an audacious idea that people that people would actually be in a society whose government was mandated to be a servant to its citizens, not to itself, not to the common good. I'm sorry. Not to special interests, not to itself. That's that was a radical notion back then. It was a utopian notion back then. What I would say to you today is all of those utopian notions, great concept, still never been tried. *Ari* [00:04:12] Yeah. You know, I've said that quite a lot. You know, when I hear people talk about the Constitution and how amazing it is, and I'll say it would be great if we actually tried to live by the ideals that we claim. Right. This week, we hear a lot of claims of what this country is at its finest possibility. But I've never seen. The attempt for it to be lived that way and understood that way. *Ari* [00:04:50] And so there's always been such a dichotomy of divergence between ideal and reality. And I want to help bring the ideal into reality. So what do we need to do in order to create that? *David* [00:05:08] The master planning, again, starts with envisioning the best possible end, getting on the same page about. About what that looks like in principle. And then reverse engineering coming backwards from that best possible end to the question of where are we now in relationship to that and how do we deliberately construct a bridge that takes us from where we are now to the best possible hand over time with patience and persistence and a dedication to not abandoning the vision. *David* [00:05:49] This is what. Great companies do. *David* [00:05:52] It's what great societies are theoretically capable of doing. But not if we're fighting against each other over whose ideology is right and wrong. *Ari* [00:06:04] That's that's a good point, because my my question to you based on that, is everybody has their own vision of what utopia is. Right. They have their own belief system about it. And most of the belief system is created by the traumas that they've experienced in their life and the experiences I say Traumas, because the traumas in the experience are really what shape our belief system and what we think of as utopia in our heads may not necessarily be the answer for our hearts and our, you know, and our humanity. *Ari* [00:06:42] So how do we bridge that gap first? *David* [00:06:45] Right. Well, what you're speaking to right now, and I'm loving that you're bringing this up, Ari, is is again, you know, it's kind of like a variation on that on that UNICEF New Year's card that my family got. The greater peace will only come with this after the smaller peace we make with each other. *David* [00:07:06] And what I would add is and within ourselves, we human beings tend to be have an inner community of self that is at war with itself. And the war comes from our traumas. The war comes from the undigested life experiences that we've had, the life experiences we've been through that we didn't know, and we still haven't figured out how to harvest great deep spiritual gifts from. So those pieces of unfinished business remain the boss of us. And if we go back to Maslow, when someone is in survival mode, they don't see utopia. They don't see what are what's possible, because all they're settling for is is surviving. It's like The Ballad of Jack and Diane and John Cougar Mellencamp. And the line from that song is Life goes on long after the thrill of living is gone. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? But that's that's the majority of society. They are. They are believing that they just have to muddle through in life. They long ago gave up their ideals, their their vision. And it's because of what you said, Ari. They have been taught to tolerate undigested life experiences inside themselves and to believe that the best they can do is hope to live with their scars rather than being shown ways that they can transform through their scars into an elevated way of living. *Ari* [00:08:53] That was those very beautiful way of putting it. And, you know, to any listener out there who's thinking, I don't know what to do next. I know I'm listening to you and I'm understanding the words that you're saying and I just don't know what to do next. Where would where would you. You know, suggest somebody start with that. *David* [00:09:23] Well, I'll say something that might sound self-serving, but it really is my answer to the question. I have an online course called the Integrity Guide to having it all how to put your genius where your dreams are and that course. Teaches people not simply a mindset, but very specific, step by step by step sequence skills, skills that are developed in a specific order because one set of skills builds on the next, builds on the next. And it the entire focus of that course is to help people outgrow their survival plan and upgrade their trival plan and their ability to live there. Thriveal plan. That's the resource that I would recommend. *Ari* [00:10:17] Awesome. So I have I have. *Ari* [00:10:21] I was I'm glad that you brought that up, because while I don't mind you being a little self-serving, I was being self-serving in having you mention a word, which is integrity. *Ari* [00:10:34] And I think a lot of people mistaken in what integrity is to something outside of themselves, not something within themselves. Yes. In action that you take verses away, that you feel inside of you. And so I'd like you to talk a little bit more about integrity itself and how that relates to a person taking on actions outside of themselves before they do the work inside. *David* [00:11:10] Right. Which, of course, never works well, if we take actions outside of ourselves before we've done the inner work, then, you know, if if you're if we're taking action from a foundation of crap, we're gonna get crap. Very simple. *David* [00:11:25] Now about integrity. Integrity is one of those words that unfortunately falls in a category I referred to as true, but not useful because tons of people. Truly an authentically not not as lip service, but tons of people truly believe in the idea of integrity. But when I ask them to tell me what integrity is and what skills are necessary, they they don't know how to answer. And so forget for the moment about ill intended people who don't believe in integrity. What I'm talking about right now are people who authentically believe in integrity, just like most people, and authentically believe in collaboration. But they've never been trained in the skills that enable them to walk the talk. So what is integrity? *David* [00:12:14] Integrity revolves around the three core drives that I was referring to earlier, our drive to be who we truly are, authenticity, our drive to bond with others connection and our drive to influence the world around us. Impact, authenticity our authenticity. Core drive is about being in integrity with our selves, with our own, the promptings that come from our deepest self, our deepest nature, our deepest callings and and connection. The connection core drive is about relationship integrity, doing what we say we're going to do and holding ourselves accountable when when what we do is not aligned with our intentions and then impact our impact or drive corresponds with collective or societal integrity being an integrity with the groups that we are a part of. *David* [00:13:14] So integrity is not one dimensional, it's three dimensional. And as someone who was primarily motivated for the largest part of my life up until about 20 years ago, by contributing to societal integrity, I sacrificed myself integrity. I killed off my first marriage. Well, that was cocreator. The killing off was cocreator. But my part in killing off my first marriage was because I became so self neglectful that my heart shut down. And even though I was a dutiful husband and I did all the right things and I didn't do them as a martyr or feeling like I was sacrificing myself, I became so depleted that the thing that my first wife most rightly wanted from me, which was my heart, stopped being available. So I was out of integrity with myself and in my primary relationship, all while I was pursuing all of my social improvement initiatives. And that is is what I call One-dimensional integrity. It was a light bulb moment when I realized that I understood a fair amount of relationship about relationship integrity, even though I was falling to the wayside with some of that. And I understood a lot about societal integrity, but I didn't count integrity with myself as a form of integrity. There are other people who are at it at a different point with that, where they're all about themselves and they're and they're all about being an integrity with themselves. And if you don't like who I am and what I do, that's your problem. Well, that's one dimensional integrity. That's not three dimensional integrity. Integrity is three dimensional. *Ari* [00:15:07] That's you know, that's a really good point because. I've had similar experiences, and I think that everybody can relate to this is sacrificing yourself. *Ari* [00:15:21] For others or sacrificing yourself of sacrificing others for yourself, right? *Ari* [00:15:29] I think that that we can relate to this as a regular thing, and I don't think that it's necessarily. *Ari* [00:15:38] Common to have only one of these things right? Depending on the relationship, I'm sacrificing myself here for the better good here or I'm sacrificing the better. Good for this here. You know, sacrificing in the middle. *Ari* [00:15:54] Right. *Ari* [00:15:54] We're always having a balancing act between sacrificing our integrity and keeping it because we are such a busy society. Because we've had to create our value by what we do. *Ari* [00:16:10] And this kind of goes back to the original part of our conversation is, is the sacrifice for work and money worth the lack of integrity towards ourselves? And if not, how can we as a society lift each other up to that place of integrity vs. you know, I, I let's just say I didn't vote. *Ari* [00:16:40] Somebody doesn't vote. Right? Why? Because I don't feel like my vote counts, as you were saying at the beginning of this conversation. Well, that help. I sing my integrity as a contributing impact person both to myself and to the society at large. *Ari* [00:16:59] Right. So how do we shift this perspective from nothing. I do really matters anyway. *David* [00:17:09] This is what you're what you're pointing toward is a is people's belief in a law of scarcity that in order to have this, I have to sacrifice that. And when we allow that either or thinking to affect our happiness formula, we're basically screwed. So if I think that I have to sacrifice my integrity in order to have financial well-being. Or that I have to sacrifice financial well-being in order to keep my integrity. I am engaging in psycho spiritual insanity. I'm engaging in either or thinking when what is what our design is is both and thinking. Our design is to live at the intersection of our authenticity, our connection with others and our positive impact in the world. It's not one being sacrificed for the other two or two being sacrificed for one of them. It's all three in synergy, in collaboration with each other. We have collectively forgotten that vision of being human and because of that we are operating as a society. Again, there's some lovely individuals who have, you know, woak awakened from the spell. But as a society, we are still under the spell of a profoundly and dysfunctionally and harmfully sic happiness formula. It is not a real happiness formula. It's a dystopian formula. And we don't know it collectively, and it's time that people started calling it like it is. I am not a fan of political correctness. I am a fan. Huge fan of treating people with respect, compassion and regard. And when I am civil with people, when I am authentically respectful to them, toward them and compassionate toward them, I don't have to worry. One split second about about political correctness. Political correctness as an attempt to legislate morality and morality cannot be legislated. It can only be developed in us because we've healed those traumas that you you're referring to earlier so that we are living our authentic self rather than our wounded self. *Ari* [00:19:42] Yeah, you know, I agree. I don't think that. I'm not a fan of political correctness. I'm not I'm not a fan. So much of correctness at all. You know, I really like if somebody were to point out my the experience of my life is very rare moments that I've actually been what somebody else might consider to be correct. *Ari* [00:20:11] And I would imagine that that's probably the same thing behind closed doors that anybody and everybody else that's listening. *Ari* [00:20:22] Would be able to relate to. Is that correctness is on? *Ari* [00:20:29] It's unlegislated all because nobody has the same morality. Not a single person has every single thing in alignment with ever with another person's morality. And so how can we possibly legislate that? You know, we've tried because of religion. So religion originally was the first attempt at legislating morality, in my opinion. *Ari* [00:20:54] All right. Let's see what we can do to take a set of a community that's tribal. Right. *Ari* [00:21:03] And create a civil society so that we can all live together in somewhat peace and harmony. Right. And then and then let's create some rules around that. So don't covet you know, don't steal. Don't murder. Right. These are all commandments. But really what they are is legislating a level of morality because, you know, don't murder unless, of course, you're being attacked. *Ari* [00:21:30] Right. Don't don't covet somebodies, you know, goods unless it's driving you to be better so that you can afford those goods. *Ari* [00:21:40] Also, you know, I mean, we really have have a slippery slope when it comes to legislating morality, legislating vices and telling people what they can and can't do with their personal space. However, when you talk about companies, as you were saying earlier, and legislating what companies can do to people's space, that might be a little bit different. *Ari* [00:22:10] And we've kind of gone backwards on this and we stop legislating corporate structures in favor of deregulation. Right. *Ari* [00:22:23] And started to regulate people's behavior as it relates to things even, you know, like in the olden days, in the 20s of of alcohol prohibition. *Ari* [00:22:37] Also, we prohibit the things that we think as a society are morally questionable. *Ari* [00:22:45] And then we allow a company to poison our food, poison our water, poisoned our air in in attempts for profit for money. *Ari* [00:22:55] So, you know, when we look at this as a society at large and we go, is this working optimally? *Ari* [00:23:05] Is this moving our world and our society forward? I say no. *Ari* [00:23:13] Caveat, maybe a little. *Ari* [00:23:15] In some places and not in others. But really the whole point of this conversation is to awaken people into some other points of view that may not be politically correct or agree with your point of view. *Ari* [00:23:32] So. *Ari* [00:23:33] How do we agree to disagree? *Ari* [00:23:39] And still be authentically ourselves without having to worry about the offense of political correctness,. *David* [00:23:50] The way I think we start to do that is by establishing first. *David* [00:23:55] What we agree to agree upon. So what I mean by that, for example, is that. And I have I have a different perspective about the Ten Commandments. I view the Ten Commandments not as commandments, but as promises. *David* [00:24:18] That when you are in alignment with love, you can't help but behave those ways, not because you should, but because behaving in any way other than those ways would just be out of integrity for you wouldn't feel good. It wouldn't feel right. I don't agree that there is no universal morality. *David* [00:24:40] I am firmly convinced that there is. But it's not a Theal a theology. It's a universal morality that is built into our fundamental human nature, related to our three core drives. That that when we are. Truly, who we are designed to be when we are authentic, when we are bonded, when we're connected, when we are loving. And when we are devoted to having positive impact in the world. Expression of our three core drives is our fundamental morality and is integrity. *David* [00:25:26] In other words, what I'm saying is we are designed by our wiring to live within to in integrity. And it is our trauma structure. It's our unfinished business. It's our societal programing that is dysfunctional societal programing that seduces us out of our fundamental human nature. We have to learn how to love. *David* [00:25:50] We have to remove the blocks to the awareness of love. Love's presence, presence. We have to learn how to be authentic. We have to change ourselves. We have to remove the traumas that stand between us and being authentic. So I think there is a fundamental universal. Morality, and it's built into our wiring. And when we can agree on what we have, yes, about then we can put our differences into a context that allow our differences to enrich UST rather than divide us. *Ari* [00:26:25] That is beautifully stated, and I like having people who disagree with me because that allows me to learn something new. *Ari* [00:26:35] And, you know, it's why I it's why when I'm looking on Facebook, for instance, all start searching for things that go completely against my point of view at I don't fall into that echo chamber that we or bubble thought bubble that that we started talking about. *Ari* [00:26:56] And I have the ability to then say, OK, what is this? And, you know, I've never had the thought. I think I got it, this friend, this person, because of what they're posting. Right. I've never had that as something that I've thought, huh? No, they don't. They don't agree with me. I think I'm going to defend them. *Ari* [00:27:18] Right. Yeah. *Ari* [00:27:20] Such a foreign kind of a concept in my world. So how come it's such a common. *Ari* [00:27:28] Fundamental thing happening in the world, because it just seems like it seems ridiculous to me. *David* [00:27:37] Well, at the macro level, I think it's happening in the world today because. Because we have. A species that species being humanity. That is in a collective state of terror and the collective state of terror that I believe humanity is in right now. Is that all of the old structures? Are crumbling because they're being outgrown. The things that the structures that were helpful in propelling us forward in fits and starts and an imperfectly for the last couple of thousand years. Are not the structures that are going to propel us forward the next couple of thousand years? And when people fall into a trap that I think we're programed to fall into, which is to identify who we are through what we believe. Then if what we believe starts to crumble, we stop thinking we can know who we are. So we desperately cling to old belief systems in order to hold onto some version of identity. And that's a very false version of identity. You know, you're talking about being a human doing. Right. And when when in a society teaches us to be human doings, when first and foremost we are human beings. Right. And so this is this is, I think, at the heart of of the problem. Ah ah. Ways of understanding and our ways of functioning are crumbling. It's scaring the crap out of most people. And so they are becoming more and more tightly bonded, tightly and tightly woven to their belief system because they are afraid they won't know who they are. If those systems crumble. *Ari* [00:29:51] That's a that's an interesting way of looking at it. You know, as I was thinking about what you're saying. The image in my head was that of meat inside of a pressure cooker. All right. You put the meat in the pressure cooker and it's hard. *Ari* [00:30:10] You put it in. *Ari* [00:30:12] Massive amounts of pressure and heat. [00:30:16] Make it soft vs., say, a diamond that's been created over years of intense pressure and heat. *Ari* [00:30:27] Right. Creates this beautiful thing called the diamond. *Ari* [00:30:32] And I believe that in some ways the weaknesses of our society were caused because our culture was like you were saying earlier, our parents wanted us to be have it better than they had it. *Ari* [00:30:50] And so they attempted at every point to remove the pressure cooker. *Ari* [00:30:59] And the way I look at it, it begins with C sections at birth because they have found that the people who have C sections that are born from a C section. And this isn't this isn't to say to somebody who's had one, you're bad for having one. *Ari* [00:31:20] It's just to say that in general that the first struggle of a human being is the struggle for life coming out that small tube. *Ari* [00:31:33] And then coming out into the world and we have removed that first struggle and some people have postulated that that has itself. *Ari* [00:31:45] Become part of the weaknesses of the people who have been born that way. I know that when when Gabriel was born, we had to have a C-section because of a fibroid. *Ari* [00:31:58] And we did what we called a natural C-section, which was smaller hole. And we had him, like, squeeze out more. So it would be mimicking more experience. Right. *Ari* [00:32:13] But the more we coddle our society, the more we remove the pressure cooker. And, you know, the lesson of the lobster is is the same a lobster. *Ari* [00:32:27] Outgrows his shell by making the shelf so tight around the body that it has to be removed. *Ari* [00:32:37] And we have artificially removed the shell and this stunted the growth. Right. What do you think of any of what I just said? *David* [00:32:50] I think it's spot on. I think that part of why we have so many immune system problems in people today is because we stopped, you know, when I was a kid. *David* [00:33:03] We didn't have the term free range children because all of us were free range children. So there wasn't a term for it. It's what kids did. They they ran around and had a great time together and got in trouble sometimes and fell and and scraped their knee or broke their leg or whatever it was, parents who coddled their children. *David* [00:33:26] On the other hand, these were the children who who grew up with entitlement disorder. These are the children who grew up thinking that the world owed them something because they didn't grow up with self responsibility. They didn't grow up with with experiencing growth coming from pain. Not to say that we should be seeking out pain all the time, because I don't think we're supposed to seek out pain all the time. I think we're supposed to have be familiar enough with pain so we don't run from it. And so it can wisen us. It can help us become wiser rather than more defeated. So, you know, when we have when we have a society that is antiseptic, that is trying to protect people, we fall into that old teaching story. *David* [00:34:16] You've probably heard it, too, about the little boy who's out in the woods. And one day he sees this. This butterfly trying to make its way out of the cocoon. And he is standing there feeling what feels to him like deep compassion. All he wants to do is to rescue, save this this butterfly from the pain of of having to break out of its cocoon so it can fly away. And so he breaks the cocoon open and the butterfly falls dead to the ground. He picks up the butterfly. He runs home to to his mother and he's crying. And he said he's saying what? What happened? I tried to help this butterfly and it died. What? What a horrible person am I? What did I do wrong? And of course, the mom's response in this teaching story, the healthy response was, honey. *David* [00:35:12] Your compassion was wonderful. *David* [00:35:16] And you tried to save this butterfly from an experience it needed to have in order to be able to fly away, and you simply didn't know that. And this in turn, reminds me of one of my favorite sayings from a 20th century theologian by the name of Reinhold Niebuhr, which is that our mission? *David* [00:35:39] Is if we really care about elevating people and about elevating the world. Our mission is to both comfort the afflicted and to afflict the comfortable. Not one or the other. *David* [00:35:56] Both. And this is what I was referring to in the beginning in our first segment about at the end of the segment about. About the two forms of love. If we have nurturance without challenge, nurturing love, without challenging love, we get narcissistic, entitled people. If we have challenging without nurturance, challenging love without nurturance, we get shamed. *David* [00:36:22] And disempowered people or tyrants. It's got to be both and. *David* [00:36:30] But we don't live in a both and society anymore. We live in an either or society. And that is the fundamental sickness of our society today is vastly immature either or thinking that we are programed into having. And that we better wake the hell up out of. If we want to evolve into a next golden age. *Ari* [00:36:52] That's that's a very profound thing. And, you know, I'm going to ask you a question I haven't asked anybody, which is. *Ari* [00:37:01] If I was to ask you a question that would sum up. The sum total of everything we've talked about. Right. *Ari* [00:37:11] And give us that path forward so that we can create a new tomorrow, so that we can activate our vision for a better world. And so that we can be these impactful Integris humans that we were designed to be. *Ari* [00:37:30] What would that path be? *David* [00:37:34] It would be the path toward what you've heard me say. It's the path towards self sovereignty that serves us all. It's the intersection of self responsibility in the context of living in a in a society where we are responsible for ourselves and we are contributing to the common good. Not one over the other. Self sovereignty that serves us all. *Ari* [00:38:04] That is that's beautiful and I so appreciate you being here and I think we've had plenty of. *Ari* [00:38:12] Tools that somebody can take away from this conversation and start applying, if you were to give just one other tool for the how, so that somebody can take that conceptual knowledge and wisdom that we just spent an hour and a half disseminating. Right. One simple tool. *Ari* [00:38:38] To activate that in them. What would that will be. *David* [00:38:44] That the toll would be a an imagery, a piece of imagery. That's about shifting our mindset. And the imagery is of a jigsaw puzzle. So imagine a jigsaw puzzle where all the pieces are out on the table and they're all upside down. And we're in a group of people and we're all busy turning all the pieces over so that we see what's what's on each piece. *David* [00:39:11] And then, sure enough, some of us cluster around finding pieces that are the corners of the puzzle and others of us cluster around finding pieces that are the edges of the puzzle. And others of us start making discoveries about parts of inside the puzzle that are elements of the picture that the puzzle is creating, like a window or a door or flower or whatever. *David* [00:39:40] And imagine that one other thing, which is that unlike a typical jigsaw puzzle, we're on the cover of the box. You see what the puzzle is supposed to look like when it's done. *David* [00:39:53] There is no box, so we don't know what the puzzle is supposed to look like when it's done. And we have two choices. We can either start to polarize and accuse the cornerists of being horrific people because all they care about is the corners or the edge ists or the flowerists or the doorists or the window ests. *David* [00:40:17] Rather than saying. Isn't it wonderful that you're so focused on the corners that you're identifying those on behalf of all of us? And the edges and the flowers and the and the doors and the windows so that we can co discover togather what the picture is meant to look like when it's all put together. That vision of synergy, of collaboration, if we can keep that in mind and in our hearts and in our spirits when we are interacting with other people who have different perspectives from ours. *David* [00:40:55] The magic is just going to start happening. That's the last tool I'll leave you with. *Ari* [00:41:01] That is. *Ari* [00:41:02] That's a beautiful image and I so appreciate you being here. I appreciate this conversation and the gifts that you've just given the audience. I hope that they will walk away from this conversation, having pulled at least 20 or 30, not just one, but 20 or 30 good gems that they can then take with them and and really, really start to create their new tomorrow and activate their vision for a better world, because this is my way of impacting the world. *Ari* [00:41:41] Is to bring these kinds of conversations out into full view of the public so that we can have deep, considerate conversations about where we want to be, who we want to be and what we want to create in this world. *Ari* [00:41:58] And I really appreciate you being here. What's again, you know, I'd like you to actually say the Web site, both for you as well as for that particular integrity piece and how people can get a hold of you if they'd like to learn more from you. *David* [00:42:17] Sure. So, first of all, thank you for your mission of service. Because what you're doing through this podcast has the potential to have widespread, important, significant impact, positive impact in the world. So my main Web site is DrGruder.com. That's drgruder.com. And if you want to be in touch with me, you'll find on drgruder.com a blue button that says contact and click on the blue button and you'll have different ways of contacting me. The Integrity Guide to having it all course that's available. You can find that by going to drgruder.com/academy. That'll take you to the Doctor Gruder Academy page. And it's the first course that's listed. dr.gruder.com/academy. *Ari* [00:43:17] Excellent. Thank you so much. And thank you audience for sticking with us, listening to this episode. *Ari* [00:43:23] And I wish you a really, really blessed day. *Ari* [00:43:29] And I wish you the kahunas to challenge yourself. *Ari* [00:43:38] To become the person that, you know, you are already inside and to shift what you might be doing now to create something more based on results performance and create a better world with us. Collaborate with us so that we together can bring in and usher in this new society that is focused on creating a world we all can live in, in harmony with nature. *Ari* [00:44:11] And I just I bless you all. Hope you have a healthy day. This has been another episode of Create a New Tomorrow with your host, Ari Gronich. And thank you so much, David Gruder, for being here. We really appreciate all of your wisdom and experience. *David* [00:44:27] Thank you. Thank you for having me. *Ari* [00:44:30] Thank you for listening to this podcast. I appreciate all you do to create a new tomorrow for yourself and those around you. If you'd like to take this information further and are interested in joining a community of like minded people who are all passionate about activating their vision for a better world, go to the Web site, create a new tomorrow. Com and find out how you can be part of making a bigger difference. I have a gift for you. Just for checking it out. *Ari* [00:44:55] And look forward to seeing you take the leap. And joining our private paid mastermind community. Until then, see you on the next episode.

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Live edition at the Thriveal annual learning gathering, and a great interview with Jody Thompson! October 2012.