Podcast appearances and mentions of Philippe Sands

Between a quarter and a fifth of young people in the UK now suffer a mental disorder. One in four adults are prescribed psychiatric medication. These numbers represent a huge and recent expansion in mental health labelling, but reveal nothing of the experience of those seeking help. In The Unfragile Mind, Gavin draws on conversations with patients, colleagues, and his thirty years of practice to explore the chequered history of psychiatry, the nature of mental health and ill-health, and the problems - including mood disorders, trauma, anxiety and addiction - that he addresses daily. The mind, he argues, is dynamic and adaptive - better addressed not with rigid labels and protocols, but with curiosity, kindness, humility and hope. Francis was in conversation with Philippe Sands. You can buy a copy of The Unfragile Mind from the London Review Bookshop. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

There has been much commentary lately about the role of the Chagos Islands – and particularly Diego Garcia, where there is a US military base – as a pawn in the geopolitical chess game unfolding currently across the Middle East and beyond. But the legal position of the Chagos Islands is not simple: a French territory, as part of Mauritius, then a British territory, then an overseas dependency and finally, in the 1970s, the subject of a mass deportation of locals. It is a tortured history that has led to court cases over the right to return, the position of the islands' self-determination and the lease for strategically important airbase on Diego Garcia. The lawyer and writer Philippe Sands was counsel for the Mauritian government for many years, and he joins the podcast to discuss the long struggle of the Chagossians in the face of international headwinds.Law and Disorder is a Podot podcast.Hosted by: Charlie Falconer, Helena Kennedy, Nicholas Mostyn.Executive Producer and editor: Nick Hilton.Associate Producer: Ewan Cameron.Music by Richard Strauss, arranged and performed by Anthony Willis & Brett Bailey. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Philippe Sands je vrhunski strokovnjak za mednarodno pravo, je pa tudi pisatelj. Napisal je več pomembnih del, ki zanimivo in tehtno povezujejo zgodovino, pravo in osebne zgodbe, med njimi je tudi nedavno prevedena Vrnitev v Lemberg (prevod Marko Košan, Založba Beletrina). S Philippom Sandsom se je konec marca, ko je obiskal Ljubljano in sodeloval na Festivalu Fabula, pogovarjala Staša Grahek. Bere Igor Velše, ton in montaža Miha Klemenčič.

An interview with Philippe Sands, author of 38 Londres Street. The book traces two of the 20th century's most infamous war criminals, testing the limits of immunity and impunity after Nuremberg.

Po mesecu dni se je v ponedeljek v ljubljanskem Cankarjevem domu sklenil Festival Literature sveta - Fabula, in gost zadnjega večera je bil vsestranski intelektualec Philippe Sands, avtor knjige »Vrnitev v Lemberg« (Lemberg je zgodovinsko nemško ime mesta Lvov v Ukrajini) – ki je bil tudi naš gost – eden od njegovih ključnih motov pri opisih razlogov in posledic strahot druge vojne je »potrebno je razumeti klavca in ne le žrtev«. Pripravili smo tudi poročilo z okrogle mize v okviru Tedna slovenske drame v Kranju, na kateri so ta teden gledališčniki iz Madžarske, Slovaške, Srbije, Avstrije in Slovenije govorili o umetniški svobodi gledališč na kocki v politično zaznamovanih okoliščinah. Izpostavljamo tudi izvirno razstavo z naslovom »Ne uničujte Slovenski Jezik!!« (zadnji pridevnik in samostalnik z veliko začetnico in neustrezen sklon pa sta seveda povzeta citata iz enega od dopisov inštitutskim jezikoslovcem) in podnaslovom »Pisma inštitutu«, na kateri je avtorica Agata Tomažič razstavila izbor dopisov Inštitutu za slovenski jezik Frana Ramovša ZRC SAZU o takšnih in drugačnih predstavah o spremembah našega jezika. Ljubljanska galerija ŠKUC, dediščina progresivnih študentskih generacij druge polovice prejšnega stoletja, gosti razstavo z naslovom »Jedka Palestina«, palestinske avtorice Samire Badran, v kateri na svojstven način upodablja izkušnje židovskega uničevanja Palestincev v Palestini. Za zaključek smo pripravili pogovor s fotografom Klavdijem Slubanom, ki je v Viteški dvorani ljubljanskih Križank pripravil razstavo analognih posnetkov trenutkov ustvarjanja našega programa z naslovom »Tihi pogled na Ars« - svoje pa je v pogovoru povedala tudi odgovorna urednica programa Ingrid Kovač Brus. FOTO: Philippe Sands, Fabula '26 VIR: https://www.institutfrance.si/events/festival-fabula-philippe-sands/

Vlada Republike Slovenije je ob 100. obletnici smrti pesnika Srečka Kosovela letošnje leto razglasila za Kosovelovo leto in zato tudi ne preseneča, da je letošnja rdeča nit Sejma akademske knjige Liber.ac posvečena prav temu vedno aktualnemu pesniku s Krasa. Letošnji Festival literature sveta – Fabula pa je potekal pod naslovom (so)odgovorni. Gost zadnjega večera je bil Philippe Sands, odvetnik, profesor mednarodnega prava, zagovornik človekovih pravic in pisatelj, katerega knjiga Vrnitev v Lemberg je v prevodu pravkar izšla pri Beletrini. Mi tokrat še o literarnem večeru v spomin na februarja preminulega pesnika Miroslava Košuto. Večer v Slovenskem stalnem gledališču v Trstu je sodil v sklop podobnih s skupnim naslovom Ars teatralis.

Who really runs Britain: the government, foreign courts or international lawyers? This question is at the heart of Michael Gove's cover piece for the Spectator this week, analysing the role of those at the centre of Labour's foreign policy. Attorney general Lord Hermer, national security adviser Jonathan Powell and internationally renowned barrister Philippe Sands may seek to uphold international law but is this approach outdated as we enter an era of hard power? For Gove, they are the three ‘guilty men' who are undermining Britain's national interest at the expense of a liberal international law that never really existed. For this week's Edition, host Lara Prendergast is joined by deputy editor Freddy Gray, columnist Douglas Murray and editor of the Spectator's Life section Arabella Byrne. The also discuss: whether Labour's reset can really work ahead of next month's by-election; how taking in so many disaffected Tories could backfire for Reform; why people care more about ICE in America than Iran – and if this proof that society has become conditioned; whether we should bemoan the demise of the landline; and finally, how parents should approach the issue of their children drinking.Produced by Patrick Gibbons. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Who really runs Britain: the government, foreign courts or international lawyers? This question is at the heart of Michael Gove's cover piece for the Spectator this week, analysing the role of those at the centre of Labour's foreign policy. Attorney general Lord Hermer, national security adviser Jonathan Powell and internationally renowned barrister Philippe Sands may seek to uphold international law but is this approach outdated as we enter an era of hard power? For Gove, they are the three ‘guilty men' who are undermining Britain's national interest at the expense of a liberal international law that never really existed. For this week's Edition, host Lara Prendergast is joined by deputy editor Freddy Gray, columnist Douglas Murray and editor of the Spectator's Life section Arabella Byrne. The also discuss: whether Labour's reset can really work ahead of next month's by-election; how taking in so many disaffected Tories could backfire for Reform; why people care more about ICE in America than Iran – and if this proof that society has become conditioned; whether we should bemoan the demise of the landline; and finally, how parents should approach the issue of their children drinking.Produced by Patrick Gibbons.Become a Spectator subscriber today to access this podcast without adverts. Go to spectator.co.uk/adfree to find out more.For more Spectator podcasts, go to spectator.co.uk/podcasts. Contact us: podcast@spectator.co.uk Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

You've been listening to the Prospect Podcast, Media Confidential's sister podcast. To subscribe on Spotify, click HERE. For Apple podcasts, click HERE. In the final podcast of the year, Ellen and Alona look back at their favourite episodes from 2025. During a dark year, Prospect has been collecting glimmers of hope. They asked some of the most interesting thinkers today—from politics, to environment to tech—for their perspectives on hope and optimism. What keeps them fighting for a more just world?Philosopher Slavoj Zizek and broadcaster Mehdi Hasan talk about the merits of pessimism. Human rights lawyer Philippe Sands discusses justice in the age of international impunity, while authoritarianism expert Ruth Ben-Ghiat considers the situation in the US.Poet and writer Robert Macfarlane reflects on preserving nature in a time of destruction. Cory Doctorow and Laura Bates weigh in on transformations in technology and artificial intelligence. Yassmin Abdel-Magied discusses the humanitarianism crisis in Sudan, while Nicola Kelly explores the untold immigration story.Plus, veteran journalist and outgoing Prospect editor Alan Rusbridger joins the podcast to reflect on his journey, his mistakes, and how he feels about the future—including the contentious thing that unexpectedly makes him feel hopeful.You can revisit all our episodes from the past year here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In the final podcast of the year, Ellen and Alona look back at their favourite episodes from 2025. During a dark year, Prospect has been collecting glimmers of hope. They asked some of the most interesting thinkers today—from politics, to environment to tech—for their perspectives on hope and optimism. What keeps them fighting for a more just world?Philosopher Slavoj Zizek and broadcaster Mehdi Hasan talk about the merits of pessimism. Human rights lawyer Philippe Sands discusses justice in the age of international impunity, while authoritarianism expert Ruth Ben-Ghiat considers the situation in the US.Poet and writer Robert Macfarlane reflects on preserving nature in a time of destruction. Cory Doctorow and Laura Bates weigh in on transformations in technology and artificial intelligence. Yassmin Abdel-Magied discusses the humanitarianism crisis in Sudan, while Nicola Kelly explores the untold immigration story.Plus, veteran journalist and outgoing Prospect editor Alan Rusbridger joins the podcast to reflect on his journey, his mistakes, and how he feels about the future—including the contentious thing that unexpectedly makes him feel hopeful.You can revisit all our episodes from the past year here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In the 80 years since Nazi leaders stood in the dock, how has the international community sought to deal with war criminals around the globe? For this concluding episode of our four-part series on the Nuremberg Trials, David Musgrove is joined by the lawyer and author Philippe Sands to chart the long, complex legacy of the events of 1945-46, and to consider whether those accused of war crimes in the present day might one day face international justice. ––––– GO BEYOND THE PODCAST Want to delve further into the Nuremberg trials and the fall of the Nazi regime? HistoryExtra's David Musgrove rounds up some essential reading, listening and viewing from the HistoryExtra and BBC History Magazine archive to help you navigate the campaign to bring the Third Reich's criminals to justice ⁠https://bit.ly/482nFIn⁠ ––––– Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In October 1946, after a trial lasting almost a year, the Nazi leaders on the dock in Nuremberg received their verdicts. But what did the judges decide? And how did the defendants, and the world outside, respond to the sentences that were handed down? In the third episode of our four-part series on Nuremberg, David Musgrove is joined by the lawyer and author Philippe Sands to explore the conclusion of the trials and consider whether this was a form of victors' justice. The HistoryExtra podcast is produced by the team behind BBC History Magazine. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Etter andre verdenskrig flykter mange av Nazi-Tysklands største krigsforbrytere til Sør-Amerika i håp om å unnslippe straff. En av dem er SS-offiseren Walter Rauff, som slår seg ned i Chile, og får en sentral rolle i Augusto Pinochets blodige regime. Hva forbinder disse to mennene, deres historier og deres skjebner?I sin løse trilogi om europeisk historie, følger jurist Philippe Sands de lange linjene i utviklingen av internasjonal rett, fra holocaust til i dag. Trilogien, som begynte med den kritikerroste Tilbake til Lemberg, blander det historiske, juridiske og personlige til et litterært storverk om en av menneskehetens mest prisverdige ambisjoner: at de som står bak historiens største forbrytelser, skal stilles til ansvar.Nå konkluderer Sands trilogien med De forsvunne fra Londres nr. 38 (til norsk ved Christian Rugstad), om diktatoren Augusto Pinochet, nazisten Walter Rauff og det internasjonale rettsvesenets lange kamp for å innhente dem.Philippe Sands er en fransk-britisk forfatter og menneskerettsadvokat med internasjonal rett som ekspertise. I tillegg til å ha skrevet en rekke prisvinnende bøker, har han medvirket i flere høyprofilerte saker i internasjonale domstoler, blant annet for Mauritius, Filippinene og nylig for Palestinas selvbestemmelse.En som har fulgt Sands' arbeid og forfatterskap med begeistring, er kritiker og forfatter Karin Haugen. Hun møter Sands til samtale om diktatoren, nazisten og lovens lange arm.Samtalen foregår på engelsk. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

After the second world war, many of the biggest war criminals from Nazi Germany flee to South America in the hope of avoiding penalty. One of them is the SS officer Walter Rauff, who settles in Chile, and ends up with a central role in the bloody regime of Augusto Pinochet. How are these two men, their stories and destinies, connected?In his loose trilogy about European history, lawyer Philippe Sands takes us through the major developments of international law, from the Holocaust up to our time. Beginning with East West Street, the trilogy combines the historical, judicial and personal in a literary masterpiece about one of humanity's most commendable ambitions: That the people behind history's biggest crimes are held accountable.Now, Sands concludes his trilogy with 38 Londres Street, about the dictator Augusto Pinochet, the Nazi Walter Rauff and the international legal system's long effort to catch up with them.Philippe Sands is a French British writer and human rights lawyer specializing in international law. He has written several award-winning books, and as a lawyer, he has argued a number of high-profile cases in international courts, including for Mauritius, the Phillipines and recently for Palestine's self-determination.Critic and writer Karin Haugen is among those who have followed Sands's work and writing over the years. Now, she will join him for a conversation about the dictator, the Nazi, and the long arm of the law.This conversation took place during the Festival of Norwegian Non-Fiction 2025. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

When the Nazi leaders went on trial in Nuremberg from November 1945, the true horrors of their regime were exposed to the world. In the second episode of our four-part series on the trials, the lawyer and author Philippe Sands chronicles the dramatic days when the likes of Hermann Goering and Hans Frank were forced to face their accusers in the courtroom. As he explains to David Musgrove, these were moments that those in attendance would never forget. Audio excerpts as presented from Court TV, via Robert H Jackson Center. The HistoryExtra podcast is produced by the team behind BBC History Magazine. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

At the end of the Second World War, the victorious Allies had to decide the fates of the surviving leaders of a regime that had initiated the bloodiest conflict in history, and perpetuated the Holocaust. The answer, beginning just a few months after VE Day, was the world's first ever international criminal trial, held in the German city of Nuremberg. As we reach the 80th anniversary of these events, David Musgrove is joined by the lawyer and author Philippe Sands to explore how this groundbreaking trial was conceived amid the rubble of the Reich. The HistoryExtra podcast is produced by the team behind BBC History Magazine. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode of The Winston Marshall Show, I sit down with Robert Midgley, journalist and spokesperson for the Friends of British Overseas Territories, to expose what could be Keir Starmer's greatest political scandal yet — the quiet handover of the Chagos Islands to Mauritius.We unpack how this shocking deal — costing British taxpayers up to £47 billion — effectively gives away sovereign UK territory in the middle of the Indian Ocean. Robert reveals how the Labour government, under pressure from international legal activists like Philippe Sands, has undermined British sovereignty and endangered one of America's most strategic military bases, Diego Garcia.From allegations of corruption and hacked negotiations in Mauritius to the Chinese Communist Party's interest in the region, we examine how Britain's political and legal elite have allowed foreign powers to dictate national policy under the banner of “decolonisation.”We also explore the untold story of the Chagossian people — forcibly removed by the British government in the 1960s, yet still overwhelmingly pro-British today, despite decades of betrayal.All this — the Chagos scandal, the billions in taxpayer money, China's growing influence, and how Starmer's Labour is sleepwalking Britain into surrendering its sovereignty.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------To see more exclusive content and interviews consider subscribing to my substack here: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------FOLLOW ME ON SOCIAL MEDIA:Substack: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/X: https://twitter.com/mrwinmarshallInsta: https://www.instagram.com/winstonmarshallLinktree: https://linktr.ee/winstonmarshall Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

War criminals, Nazi fugitives, and a viable threat to American democracy — sounds like a classic page-turner but author and lawyer Philippe Sands isn't making this up. His book, 38 Londres Street is a retelling of legal history that probes the connections between former Nazi leaders and Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet. The payoff isn't just an intriguing read. For Sands, broad public engagement is key to the survival of hard-won systems of international justice.Philippe Sands delivered the 3rd Annual Irving Abella Lecture at Massey College in October 2025.We'd love to hear from you. Fill out our listener survey here.

Jurist og forfatter Philippe Sands nye bok De forsvunne fra Londres nr. 38 handler om immunitet, rettssaken mot Pinochet, og hvordan autoritære regimer beskytter hverandre. Hvordan fungerer internasjonal strafferettsforfølgelse? Kan temaene fra boken Tilbake til Lemberg fortelle oss noe relevant om folkemord og forbrytelser mot menneskeheten? Hvordan skal aktuelle konflikter i Gaza og Ukraina beskrives? Gjest: Jurist og forfatter Philippe SandsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On today's episode, Lawfare Managing Editor Tyler McBrien sits down with Philippe Sands, a professor of law at the University of London and the Samuel Pisar Visiting Professor at Harvard Law School to discuss his new book, “38 Londres Street: On Impunity, Pinochet in England, and a Nazi in Patagonia.”They discuss the intertwined stories of Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet and Nazi SS commander Walther Rauff, his uncanny personal connections to those stories, how Pinochet's arrest and the subsequent legal battle over his extradition changed international criminal law, and how writing the book informed his thinking on the U.S. Supreme Court's immunity ruling in Trump v. United States.To receive ad-free podcasts, become a Lawfare Material Supporter at www.patreon.com/lawfare. You can also support Lawfare by making a one-time donation at https://givebutter.com/lawfare-institute.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week Adam Biles speaks with international lawyer and acclaimed author Philippe Sands about his latest book, 38 Londres Street: On Impunity, Pinochet in England and a Nazi in Patagonia. Building on East West Street and The Ratline, Sands traces the remarkable and disturbing links between Nazi officer Walter Rauff—architect of the mobile gas vans—and Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet. Their conversation explores how Rauff escaped Europe, settled in South America, and later became entangled with Pinochet's regime, raising profound questions about memory, complicity, and justice. Sands also shares his personal and professional connection to this history: as a barrister involved in Pinochet's extradition case, and as the descendant of a family decimated by the Holocaust. Blending archival detective work, courtroom drama, and encounters with extraordinary witnesses, Sands reveals the human stories behind the law. This is a gripping, moving, and sometimes unsettling dialogue about the echoes of history and the pursuit of accountability.Buy 38 Londres Street: https://www.shakespeareandcompany.com/books/38-londres-street-2*Philippe Sands was born in London in 1960 and studied Law at the University of Cambridge. His book East West Street was the winner of the Baillie Gifford Prize for Non Fiction 2016, the British Book Awards Non-fiction Book of the Year 2017 and 2018 Prix Montaigne He is also the author of Lawless World: America and the Making and Breaking of Global Rules, which inspired a stage play (Called to Account, Tricycle Theatre) and a television film (The Trial of Tony Blair, Channel 4). He writes regularly for the press and serves as a commentator for the BBC, CNN and other radio and television producers. His BBC Storyville film My Nazi Legacy: What Our Fathers Did premiered in April 2015 at the Tribecca Film Festival. Sands co-wrote a podcast of the same name for the BBC. Sands lectures around the world and has taught at New York University and been a visiting professor at the University of Toronto, the University of Melbourne, and the Université de Paris I (Sorbonne). He was appointed a Queen's Counsel in 2003. The Ratline: Love, Lies and Justice on the Trail of a Nazi Fugitive, was published in 2020 and The Last Colony: A Tale of Exile, Justice and Britain's Colonial Legacy in 2022. His most recent book, 38 Londres Street: On Impunity, Pinochet in England and a Nazi in Patagonia was published in 2025. He is currently Professor of Law at University College London and a barrister and arbitrator at 11 King's Bench Walk. He served as president of English PEN and is on the board of the Hay Festival of Arts and Literature.Adam Biles is Literary Director at Shakespeare and Company.Listen to Alex Freiman's latest EP, In The Beginning: https://open.spotify.com/album/5iZYPMCUnG7xiCtsFCBlVa?si=h5x3FK1URq6SwH9Kb_SO3w Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jorge Fontevecchia en entrevista con el escritor y profesor de derecho internacional Philippe Sand.

In this second episode of our We Have Ways Fest Special Series we speak to Philippe Sands all about his brand new book '38 Londres Street: On Impunity, Pinochet in England, and a Nazi in Patagonia'! We spoke about the humanity that endured despite the terror perpetuated by the Pinochet regime, Philippe's role in the Pinochet case, and the influence of Nazism in this regime!We Have Ways Fest is taking place between the 12th and 14th of September at Blackpit Brewery To get tickets for We Have Way Fest head to the website!Grab a copy of 38 Londres Street!To support History with Jackson to carry on creating content subscribe to History with Jackson+ on Apple Podcasts or support us on our Patreon!To catch up on everything to do with History with Jackson head to www.HistorywithJackson.co.ukFollow us on Facebook at @HistorywithJacksonFollow us on Instagram at @HistorywithJacksonFollow us on X/Twitter at @HistorywJacksonFollow us on TikTok at @HistorywithJackson Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

durée : 00:15:21 - L'invité d'un jour dans le monde - Dans son dernier livre l'avocat international, revient sur les liens entre le nazi Walther Rauff et le général Pinochet, et sur les procédures judiciaires lancées contre eux, avec plus ou moins de succès, pour qu'ils répondent de leurs crimes. Vous aimez ce podcast ? Pour écouter tous les autres épisodes sans limite, rendez-vous sur Radio France.

durée : 00:37:09 - Le 18/20 · Un jour dans le monde - Entretien avec Philippe Sands qui vient de publier "38, rue de Londres" où comment l'exemple de Pinochet et d'un criminel Nazi réfugiés au Chili nous font réfléchir à la justice Internationale. Vous aimez ce podcast ? Pour écouter tous les autres épisodes sans limite, rendez-vous sur Radio France.

durée : 00:37:09 - Le 18/20 · Un jour dans le monde - Entretien avec Philippe Sands qui vient de publier "38, rue de Londres" où comment l'exemple de Pinochet et d'un criminel Nazi réfugiés au Chili nous font réfléchir à la justice Internationale. Vous aimez ce podcast ? Pour écouter tous les autres épisodes sans limite, rendez-vous sur Radio France.

durée : 00:36:17 - L'Invité(e) des Matins - par : Guillaume Erner, Yoann Duval - Philippe Sands est au cœur des questions juridiques qui font l'actualité, du tribunal spécial pour juger Vladimir Poutine à la défense de l'Autorité palestinienne. Son livre “38, rue de Londres. De l'impunité, Pinochet et le nazi de Patagonie” (Albin Michel) s'intéresse aux oubliés de Nuremberg. - réalisation : Félicie Faugère - invités : Philippe Sands Avocat et écrivain

durée : 02:30:06 - Les Matins - par : Guillaume Erner, Yoann Duval - - réalisation : Félicie Faugère

I do my best to respond to your critiques of some of our recent episodes.We got an overwhelming response to my interviews with the Palestinian activist Mahmoud Khalil, the national conservativism theorist Yoram Hazony and the human rights lawyer Philippe Sands on whether Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. So in this subscriber-only Ask Me Anything I answer some of the biggest critiques we received, as well as other listener questions on the Democratic Party's political strategy, how the ideas in “Abundance” are rippling out in the world and the strange experience I had doing a Munk Debate.Thank you to everyone who sent in questions. And if you aren't a New York Times subscriber but would like to be, just go to nytimes.com/subscription.This episode contains strong language.Mentioned:“Why American Jews No Longer Understand One Another” by Ezra KleinOur episode with Philippe SandsOur episode with Mahmoud KhalilOur episode with Yoram HazonyMunk DebateThoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.You can find the transcript and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.htmlThis episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Claire Gordon and Kristin Lin. Fact checking by Michelle Harris, Mary Marge Locker and Kate Sinclair. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Aman Sahota and Isaac Jones. Our executive producer is Claire Gordon. The show's production team also includes Marie Cascione, Annie Galvin, Rollin Hu, Elias Isquith, Jack McCordick, Marina King and Jan Kobal. Original music by Pat McCusker. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The director of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

In December 2023, when South Africa accused Israel of genocide before the International Court of Justice, I thought it was wrong to do so. Israel had been attacked. Its defense was legitimate. The blood was on Hamas's hands.But over the last year, I have watched a slew of organizations and scholars arrive at the view that whatever Israel's war on Gaza began as, its mass assault on Palestinian civilians fits the definition of genocidal violence. This is a view now held by Amnesty International, B'Tselem, Human Rights Watch, and the president of the International Association of Genocide Scholars, among many othersOne reason I have stayed away from the word genocide is that there is an imprecision at its heart. When people use the word genocide, I think they imagine something like the Holocaust: the attempted extermination of an entire people. But the legal definition of genocide encompasses much more than that.So what is a genocide? And is this one?Philippe Sands is a lawyer who's worked on a number of genocide cases. He is the author of, among other books, “East West Street,” about how the idea of genocide was developed and written into international law. He is the best possible guide to the hardest possible topic.Mentioned:“What the Inventor of the Word ‘Genocide' Might Have Said About Putin's War” by Philippe Sands“‘Only the Strong Survive.' How Israel's Benjamin Netanyahu Is Testing the Limits of Power” by Brian Bennett“The laws of war must guide Israel's response to Hamas atrocity”The Ratline by Philippe Sands38 Londres Street by Philippe SandsBook Recommendations:Janet Flanner's World by Janet FlannerCommonwealth by Ann PatchettBy Night in Chile by Roberto BolañoThoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.You can find the transcript and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.htmlThis episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Jack McCordick and Annie Galvin. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, with Kate Sinclair. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Aman Sahota. Our executive producer is Claire Gordon. The show's production team also includes Marie Cascione, Annie Galvin, Rollin Hu, Elias Isquith, Kristin Lin, Marina King and Jan Kobal. Original music by Marian Lozano, Dan Powell, Carole Sabouraud and Pat McCusker. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The director of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

durée : 00:28:00 - Le Feuilleton - Philippe Sands parvient à établir que Monseigneur Hudal, qui a accueilli Otto Wächter à Rome, était le pivot d'une filière d'exfiltration de nazis vers l'Amérique du Sud, mais pas seulement.

durée : 00:28:40 - Le Feuilleton - Tandis que Horst Wächter et sa mère Charlotte ont toujours été convaincus de la mort par empoisonnement d'Otto, Philippe Sands va chercher à étayer cette thèse en interrogeant une anthropologue biologique spécialisée dans les empoisonnements

durée : 00:27:20 - Le Feuilleton - Un homme a recruté ces anciens nazis, il s'agit de Thomas Lucid, un Américain qui a participé à la création de la CIA. Or, au cours de son enquête, Philippe Sands va mettre au jour d'incroyables coïncidences concernant Karl Hass et Thomas Lucid…

durée : 00:27:46 - Le Feuilleton - Le "vieux camarade" d'Otto Wächter avec lequel il a déjeuné peu avant sa mort, Karl Hass, était-il un agent double à la solde des Soviétiques et des Américains ?

durée : 00:27:20 - Le Feuilleton - Otto Wächter tombe malade début juillet, après un déjeuner chez un mystérieux ami près de Rome et meurt quelques jours plus tard, le corps entièrement noirci. Pour savoir s'il aurait pu être assassiné, Philippe Sands fait appel à John Le Carré, qui fut espion à cette époque.

durée : 00:27:34 - Le Feuilleton - En avril 1949, Otto Wächter arrive à la gare de Rome sous un faux nom et sans un sou. Grâce à l'appui de Monseigneur Hudal, il prépare son exfiltration en Amérique du Sud.

durée : 00:27:10 - Le Feuilleton - A la fin de la guerre, Otto Wächter se cache pendant trois ans dans les montagnes autrichiennes pour échapper à ceux qui sont alors à ses trousses. Sa femme vient régulièrement le ravitailler et ni l'un ni l'autre ne sont jamais inquiétés.

durée : 00:28:40 - Le Feuilleton - Au fil de son enquête, Philippe Sands trouve les traces administratives des responsabilités d'Otto Wächter dans l'extermination de la famille de son grand-père Léon Buchholz en 1942.

durée : 00:28:45 - Le Feuilleton - Grâce aux archives de la famille Wächter que lui a confiées Horst, Philippe Sands peut reconstituer pour partie la vie d'Otto Wächter et celle de sa femme, Charlotte, de leurs années de jeunesse jusqu'à la Seconde Guerre mondiale.

durée : 00:27:14 - Le Feuilleton - Philippe Sands a rencontré Horst Wächter, le fils d'un officier nazi, Otto Wächter, alors qu'il écrivait un livre sur Nuremberg. Il se rend chez lui, à Hagenberg près de Vienne, parce que Horst a accepté de lui confier ses archives familiales…

Walther Rauff, a notorious Nazi war criminal, lived openly in Chile after the Second World War, working for the Pinochet regime's secret police in the 1970s and avoiding extradition to West Germany. When General Pinochet was himself arrested in London in 1998 under an international warrant issued by a Spanish judge, the British government returned him to Chile on medical grounds. In this episode, Andy Beckett, the author of Pinochet in Piccadilly, joins Tom to talk about these two cases of impunity, the subjects of a recent book by Philippe Sands. They also consider why the democratic government of Salvador Allende that Pinochet overthrew in 1973 has been a touchstone for the international left in the decades since, and whether something similar to Pinochet's coup could have happened in the UK. Find Andy's article and further reading on the episode page: https://lrb.me/pinochetpod Sponsored link Oculi Mundi: ⁠https://oculi-mundi.com/⁠ LRB Audio Discover audiobooks, Close Readings and more from the LRB: ⁠⁠https://lrb.me/audiolrbpod

Following the defeat of Nazi Germany in 1945 some of its most egregious war criminals sought to escape justice by fleeing Europe, most famously to South America. The escape routes they used, established by Nazi sympathisers, came to be known as 'ratlines'. The escaping Nazis had helped from an unexpected source; senior figures within the Catholic Church.The story of SS officer Walter Rauff exemplifies how these networks operated and the subsequent lives of the escapees. Rauff was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people during the Second World War and was a key perpetrator of the Holocaust. After escaping to Chile, he would eventually come to work for the brutal Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet. There he would go on to inflict further miseries on the Chilean people. Rauff was never put on trial, but is it possible to obtain a different kind of justice for his numerous crimes?Philippe Sands, a renowned British-French lawyer and author, joins Dan to provide insights from his book '38 Londres Street: On Impunity, Pinochet in England and a Nazi in Patagonia', which explores Rauff's life and actions and the involvement of the Catholic Church.Produced & edited by Dougal Patmore.Sign up to History Hit for hundreds of hours of original documentaries, with a new release every week and ad-free podcasts. Sign up at https://www.historyhit.com/subscribe.We'd love to hear your feedback - you can take part in our podcast survey here: https://insights.historyhit.com/history-hit-podcast-always-on.You can also email the podcast directly at ds.hh@historyhit.com.

Anwalt, Autor, Aktivist: Philippe Sands trägt nicht nur eine Perücke in den internationalen Gerichtssälen dieser Welt - etwa wenn er Palästina vor dem Internationalen Gerichtshof vertritt. Er setzt sich gerne auch andere Hüte auf: Den des Aktivisten, wenn er die Einrichtung eines Sondertribunals für das Crime of Aggression fordert - den Angriffskrieg Russlands gegen die Ukraine. Dieser Sondergerichtshof soll jetzt mit dem Europarat und unter kräftiger Mithilfe europäischer Staaten eingerichtet werden. In Wien stellt Bestseller-Autor Sands gerade sein neues Buch “Die Verschwundenen von Londres 38” vor - es geht um die Verbrechen von Diktator Augusto Pinochet und um seine Verhaftung in London 1998. Tessa Szyszkowitz hat mit ihm gesprochen. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sam Leith's guest on this week's Book Club podcast is the lawyer and writer Philippe Sands, whose new book 38 Londres Street describes the legal and diplomatic tussle over the potential extradition of the former Chilean dictator General Pinochet. Philippe tells Sam why the case was such an important one in legal history, and presents new evidence suggesting that the General's release to Chile on health grounds may have been part of a behind-the-scenes stitch-up between the UK and Chilean governments. He sets out some of that evidence and pushes back on our reviewer Jonathan Sumption's scepticism about the case. Here's an old case, but not yet a cold case. Produced by Oscar Edmondson and Patrick Gibbons.

The lawyer Philippe Sands weaves together a story of historical crimes, impunity and the law in his latest book, 38 Londres Street. He uncovers the links between a Nazi hiding in plain sight in Patagonia and the military dictatorship of Augusto Pinochet, and the failed attempts to bring either to justice. Kenneth Roth has led Human Rights Watch for the last three decades, overseeing investigations into violence and oppression in countries all over the world. In Righting Wrongs he tells the stories of the wins and the losses, and the ongoing fight to uncover, and prosecute, abuses.The BBC's former Syria correspondent Lina Sinjab was forced into exile more than a decade ago after threats from President Bashar al-Assad's government. She could only watch as death and destruction ripped through her country, and those in power appeared to act with impunity. She looks at how Syria is faring since the fall of al-Assad's brutal regime.Producer: Katy Hickman

What connects the Final Solution with a Chilean crabmeat factory? How were Pinochet and Mossad using Nazis? Did the war really end in 1945? Join James Holland, Al Murray, and guest Philippe Sands as they deep dive into the ratlines of high-ranking SS war criminals who became influential advisors for South American dicatorships - and how they still cast a long shadow on the world today. EPISODES ARE AVAILABLE FOR MEMBERS AD FREE - SIGN UP AT patreon.com/wehaveways A Goalhanger Production Produced by James Regan Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Social: @WeHaveWaysPod Email: wehavewayspodcast@gmail.com Join our ‘Independent Company' to watch exclusive livestreams, get presale events, and our weekly newsletter book and model discounts. Membership Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What connects a notorious Chilean dictator with an SS commander who played a key role in the Holocaust? This is the question at the heart of a book by the author and lawyer Philippe Sands, which follows the twin stories of Augusto Pinochet's sensational arrest in London in 1998 and the postwar career of Walter Rauff, who spent many years in Pinochet's Chile. Philippe was joined by Rob Attar to explore a tangled tale of law and mass murder in Europe and South America. (Ad) Philippe Sands is the author of 38 Londres Street: On Impunity, Pinochet in England and a Nazi in Patagonia (Orion, 2025). Buy it now from Waterstones: https://go.skimresources.com?id=71026X1535947&xcust=historyextra-social-histboty&xs=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.waterstones.com%2Fbook%2F38-londres-street%2Fphilippe-sands%2F9781399632812. The HistoryExtra podcast is produced by the team behind BBC History Magazine. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The future of the Chagos Islands hangs in the balance as world leaders debate how really owns the islands and who should be allowed to live there. Since the 1970s, the evicted Chagossian people have been using legal channels to fight their expulsion from their Indian Ocean homes, challenging Britain's claim to its last colony. Led by Olivier Bancoult, a Chagossian activist expelled from Peros Banhos in the 1960s, hundreds of people have been campaigning to be granted the right to return to their land. Despite winning their case in October 2024, the election of US President Donald Trump has thrown the status of the Chagos Islands again into jeopardy. So, as the weeks roll on since Trump's inauguration, the Chagossian people are asking: when will Britain let us go home? Listen as William and Anita are once again joined by barrister, writer and academic, Philippe Sands, to discuss the uncertain future of the Chagos Islands. Twitter: @Empirepoduk Email: empirepoduk@gmail.com Goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: Becki Hills Producer: Anouska Lewis Senior Producer: Callum Hill Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Chagos Islands have dominated news headlines over the past few months, but the struggle of the Chagossian people to reclaim their island home has spanned centuries. First colonised in 1513 by the Portuguese, the archipelago shifted from one imperial master to another over the course of the next three hundred years, until the British took control in the 19th century and changed the course of Chagossian history forever... In the 20th century the US realised the strategic importance of the Chagos archipelago, sitting equidistant between Asia and Africa. As the island of Diego Garcia became home to one of the largest US military bases in the world, the Chagossian people were forcibly evicted from their lands and displaced across the world, left to fend for themselves in unknown lands. Listen as Anita and William are joined by Philippe Sands, barrister, writer and academic, who has been leading the repatriation case against the British government on behalf of the Chagos Islands and the Mauritian state. Twitter: @Empirepoduk Email: empirepoduk@gmail.com Goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: Becki Hills Producer: Anouska Lewis Senior Producer: Callum Hill Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

From March 8, 2023: A few weeks ago, Human Rights Watch released a report on the forced expulsion of the Chagossian people, whom the United Kingdom deported from their island homes in the Indian Ocean about 60 years ago to make way for the United States to build a military base called Diego Garcia. The report recommends reparations for the Chagossian people and a trial for individuals responsible for these crimes against humanity—the very first time the group has laid such a charge at the door of the US and UK. Lawfare Managing Editor Tyler McBrien sat down with Philippe Sands, an international human rights lawyer who served as counsel for Mauritius in its bid to reclaim sovereignty over the Chagos Archipelago. Philippe is the author of several books, including his most recent, "The Last Colony: A Tale of Exile, Justice and Britain's Colonial Legacy," which is about the islands. They discussed the Chagossian people's decades-long legal struggle to return to their ancestral home, a chance phone call from a ski lift, and the role of race and identity in the making and application of international law. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.