Executive Order

Alex Gilbert is an advocate and consultant for adults with learning disabilities, namely ADHD and dyslexia. For those who were diagnosed as children, schools are equipped (or should be let's be honest) to support children with their disabilities. However once out in the professional world those resources dry up. Alex wants to change that and to acknowledge how much of a super power those 'disabilities' can be.Alex is a New Yorker, a Mets fan, a yogi, and a brunch enthusiast. Who also has dyslexia and ADHD. After spending her career working in leadership development, she decided to start a consulting and coaching business that will help adults (like herself) with learning disabilities and/or ADHD who have been struggling in their careers. Cape-Able Consulting was created to help them navigate their day-to-day workloads so that they feel supported and are able to reach their highest potential.Connect with Alex GilbertCheck out her website and you can find Alex at Facebook and Instagram as @IamCapeable.Connect with Brittany SingerYou can reach Brittany on Instagram at @executiveorderpodcast  and Facebook at Executive Order Podcast  and on Twitter at @ExecOrderPod. If you have ideas for topics or guests you'd like to hear on the show please send a note through any of these channels.Connect with Zenia OrganizersYou can also learn more about Brittany's Organizing business at ZeniaOrganizers.com . If you're interested in getting support and assistance with getting your life or business organized once and for all send her a message at hello@zeniaorganizers.comInstagram: @ZeniaOrganizersFacebook: Zenia Organizers

Orit Lagnado is a Personal Photo Organizer located in Houston, TX. She began Organized Photo Solutions to help busy moms get their photo chaos under control. As we now take more photos than ever before it is critical that they are managed and backed up properly. Orit passionately believes that photos should be looked at and enjoyed and not become an additional source of stress and guilt. The peace of mind knowing that your photo collection is organized and backed up coupled with the joy and nostalgia from having photo books to look at are priceless!Connect with Orit LagnadoCheck out her website and her list of recommended resources. And you can find Orit at Facebook and Instagram as @OrganizedPhotoSolutions.Connect with Brittany SingerYou can reach Brittany on Instagram at @executiveorderpodcast  and Facebook at Executive Order Podcast  and on Twitter at @ExecOrderPod. If you have ideas for topics or guests you'd like to hear on the show please send a note through any of these channels.Connect with Zenia OrganizersYou can also learn more about Brittany's Organizing business at ZeniaOrganizers.com . If you're interested in getting support and assistance with getting your life or business organized once and for all send her a message at hello@zeniaorganizers.comInstagram: @ZeniaOrganizersFacebook: Zenia Organizers

Tara Shea is the Owner and CEO of Tara Shea The VA, LLC. Tara provides done for you administrative services for successful female entrepreneurs. Tara is the creator of Foundations, an action based mini course where Tara teaches other women how to start their own successful Virtual Assistant business. She is also the creator of The Formula, a 90 day intensive for virtual assistants who want to level up their business and stand out among other virtual assistants. Tara is passionate about teaching other women that it is possible to have a healthy work and life balance, and you don't have to choose one over the other. Connect with Brittany SingerYou can reach Brittany on Instagram at @executiveorderpodcast  and Facebook at Executive Order Podcast  and on Twitter at @ExecOrderPod. If you have ideas for topics or guests you'd like to hear on the show please send a note through any of these channels.Connect with Tara SheaLearn more about Tara and her programs here and follow her at @TaraSheTheVA on Instagram.Connect with Zenia OrganizersYou can also learn more about Brittany's Organizing business at ZeniaOrganizers.com . If you're interested in getting support and assistance with getting your life or business organized once and for all send her a message at hello@zeniaorganizers.comInstagram: @ZeniaOrganizersFacebook: Zenia Organizers 

With a decade of entrepreneurship and her ambitious, high achiever spirit, Cam thrives on using education to make true connections with all kinds of people. She's experienced every step of building a company from the ground up and has fostered a deep passion for educating and leading others on that same journey. Cam selflessly educates others, fearlessly leads her team, and is always ready to conquer a new project. Connect with Cam Petty PalmerCheck out Cam's podcast and learn more about her programs here. Follow @TheRender.CoConnect with Brittany SingerYou can reach Brittany on Instagram at @executiveorderpodcast  and Facebook at Executive Order Podcast  and on Twitter at @ExecOrderPod. If you have ideas for topics or guests you'd like to hear on the show please send a note through any of these channels.Connect with Zenia OrganizersYou can also learn more about Brittany's Organizing business at ZeniaOrganizers.com . If you're interested in getting support and assistance with getting your life or business organized once and for all send her a message at hello@zeniaorganizers.comInstagram: @ZeniaOrganizersFacebook: Zenia Organizers 

Melissa Rohlfs is a certified holistic health and life coach helping busy women break free from sugar and stress/emotional eating so they can be calm, confident and at peace.  She is committed to empowering women to break free from dieting, emotional eating and self-image issues so they can ditch the diet mentality, and feel empowered in their own skin. After her own tumultuous history with food {withholding and then later in life, bingeing}, she learned how to deal with the core issues around her broken relationship with food.  Connect with Melissa RohlfsLearn all about her coaching programs at Free2Be Coaching and follow her on Instagram at @Free2B_Coaching And check out her podcast Mondays with MelissaConnect with Brittany SingerYou can reach Brittany on Instagram at @executiveorderpodcast  and Facebook at Executive Order Podcast  and on Twitter at @ExecOrderPod. If you have ideas for topics or guests you'd like to hear on the show please send a note through any of these channels.Connect with Zenia OrganizersYou can also learn more about Brittany's Organizing business at ZeniaOrganizers.com . If you're interested in getting support and assistance with getting your life or business organized once and for all send her a message at hello@zeniaorganizers.comInstagram: @ZeniaOrganizersFacebook: Zenia Organizers

Steven Mollura is a Licensed Mental Health Counselor and Financial Coach specializing in Fear and Self-sabotage. He offers honest and open therapeutic support to help clients gain insight and meaning into their lives, and address the unconscious factors that impede their goals. He has worked in a variety of settings with a wide array of populations including psychiatric hospitals, substance treatment, palliative care, and private practice. Steven is the owner of Prosperity Counseling. He is licensed in Pennsylvania and  Florida, and provides in-person and online therapy sessions for individuals and groups. 

Christine Anastasia, Ed.M is a Working Mom Coach and a young working parent. She is the mom of two beautiful girls, Emma, 4, and Zoe, 2. Her coaching services and group programs help new moms and busy moms juggling work and raising a young family.  At their core they want to be the best versions of themselves. She helps moms take care of their wellbeing so they can thrive in motherhood.Connect with Christine AnastasiaLearn all about her coaching programs at ChristineAnastasia.com and follow her on Instagram at @VillageCoachMammaConnect with Brittany SingerYou can reach Brittany on Instagram at @executiveorderpodcast  and Facebook at Executive Order Podcast  and on Twitter at @ExecOrderPod. If you have ideas for topics or guests you'd like to hear on the show please send a note through any of these channels.Connect with Zenia OrganizersYou can also learn more about Brittany's Organizing business at ZeniaOrganizers.com . If you're interested in getting support and assistance with getting your life or business organized once and for all send her a message at hello@zeniaorganizers.comInstagram: @ZeniaOrganizersFacebook: Zenia Organizers

Heather McCreight, creator of Barre Where You Are, moved to Charleston, South Carolina in 2013 sight unseen after a decade of dancing professionally in New York City and on cruise ships. Here she not only met her amazing husband, but she also discovered her post-dance passion: Barre! She obtained her Barre Certification quickly thereafter, followed by her Group Fitness Instructor, Mind-Body Specialist and Pre/Postnatal Fitness Specialist certifications. Heather's mission in starting Barre Where You Are was to create an affordable and convenient way for everyone to enjoy Barre, while empowering her clients to push past limiting beliefs and become the best versions of themselves! She believes every workout should count with lots of shaking, sweating and smiling along the way! Heather hopes to "see" you at the barre soon![ 2:08 ] Designing business around client wants & needs[ 7:40 ] Being ready for a newly all on-line world[ 8:31 ] Optimizing WFH[ 12:34 ] Getting away from your phone. Literally.[ 16:20 ] Making your time more efficient[ 21:20 ] Designing a home work out space[ 23:55 ] Considerations with a mobile business model[ 28:20 ] Tough guys in barre classes LOL[ 29:55 ] The BIG goal Connect with Heather McCreightIf you're ready to dig in and get your body shaking you can redeem your two week free trial to Barre Where You Are  here.  Follow Heather at @barrewhereyouare on Instagram to connect and learn more about her programs.Connect with Brittany SingerYou can reach Brittany on Instagram at @executiveorderpodcast  and Facebook at Executive Order Podcast  and on Twitter at @ExecOrderPod. If you have ideas for topics or guests you'd like to hear on the show please send a note through any of these channels.Connect with Zenia OrganizersYou can also learn more about Brittany's Organizing business at ZeniaOrganizers.com . If you're interested in getting support and assistance with getting your life or business organized once and for all send her a message at hello@zeniaorganizers.comInstagram: @ZeniaOrganizersFacebook: Zenia Organizers

Alec Watson is the Director of Photography and Founder of Your Visual Brand a brand strategy company that educates small business owners and solopreneurs on how to create outstanding branding on their own. Previously working in advertising, Alec Watson is a multi-disciplinary digital media artist.  As a photographer, his work has graced magazine covers, movie posters, album covers and a multitude of advertising from Coca-Cola and Starbucks to heads of state. As a director of photography, Alec has filmed advertising for Starbucks, Britney Spears, Goldwell, KMS, Microsoft, Sexy Hair. Beyond the advertising realm Alec has directed and filmed music videos and several award-winning short films.[ 2:29 ] Difference between brand photography for big and small brands[ 4:05 ] Choosing and qualifying the right projects[ 5:54 ] Impact of storytelling [ 10:17 ] Understanding your audience's motivation[ 17:40 ] Making the switch to teaching[ 20:27 ] Learning to ask the right questions[ 27:56 ] Looking to others who have accomplished what you want[ 29:56 ] Working on your business existing without you[ 33:22 ] Different ways to get team buy in Connect with Alec WatsonWant to hear more from Alec? Check out his podcast Your Visual Brand. Learn more about Alec and about his course here. And follow him on Instagram at @Alec_Watson_DPConnect with Brittany SingerYou can reach Brittany on Instagram at @executiveorderpodcast  and Facebook at Executive Order Podcast  and on Twitter at @ExecOrderPod. If you have ideas for topics or guests you'd like to hear on the show please send a note through any of these channels.Connect with Zenia OrganizersYou can also learn more about Brittany's Organizing business at ZeniaOrganizers.com . If you're interested in getting support and assistance with getting your life or business organized once and for all send her a message at hello@zeniaorganizers.comInstagram: @ZeniaOrganizersFacebook: Zenia Organizers

[ 3:30 ]  When you love what you do you'll chat with anyone about it[ 6:27 ]  Accommodating your energy style[ 9:04 ]  Choosing to serve solopreneurs and start ups[ 12:28 ]  Helping your client realize their zone of genuis[ 13:53 ]  Knowing your ideal client psychographics[ 15:28 ]  Core challenges for start ups and solopreneurs[ 24:30 ]  Customer feedback is marketing gold[ 28:50 ]  Learning what to focus on in the big picture[ 33:01 ]  "Social media is a vehicle not a destination" Connect with Melinda Colón@MelindaConsults on Instagram and Facebook. And you know you want to check out that CEO hat. Find out what your ideal client avatar is here.Connect with Brittany SingerYou can reach Brittany on Instagram at @executiveorderpodcast  and Facebook at Executive Order Podcast  and on Twitter at @ExecOrderPod. If you have ideas for topics or guests you'd like to hear on the show please send a note through any of these channels.Connect with Zenia OrganizersYou can also learn more about Brittany's Organizing business at ZeniaOrganizers.com . If you're interested in getting support and assistance with getting your life or business organized once and for all send her a message at hello@zeniaorganizers.comInstagram: @ZeniaOrganizersFacebook: Zenia Organizers

Born in Louisiana, Jake studied European History and Philosophy in Atlanta. He has spent the last 22 years living in Europe. There he has owned a restaurant, bar, and two travel companies. For the last eleven years he has been the owner and operator of 'All Things Garmisch' a small travel firm specializing in group tours and vacations in Bavaria, Germany. Now he is the founder of Deri Dari an online platform for chefs to host live virtual cooking experiences.[  2:22  ]   The Covid pivot[  6:54  ]  Building the model [  15:32  ]  New business growing pains[  17:03  ]  Starting a business in USA vs Germany[  20:22  ]  Finding the right culinary fits[  30:20  ]  Using business to create communityConnect with Jake DohertyFind Jake at www.deridari.com . If you are a chef and want to learn more about how to partner with Deri Dari click here. If you want to learn about booking an experience click here. Jake's tour companies can be found at All Things Garmisch and Bavarian Beer Vacation. And you can follow @cookwithderidari.Connect with Brittany SingerYou can reach Brittany on Instagram at @executiveorderpodcast  and Facebook at Executive Order Podcast  and on Twitter at @ExecOrderPod. If you have ideas for topics or guests you'd like to hear on the show please send a note through any of these channels.Connect with Zenia OrganizersYou can also learn more about Brittany's Organizing business at ZeniaOrganizers.com . If you're interested in getting support and assistance with getting your life or business organized once and for all send her a message at hello@zeniaorganizers.comInstagram: @ZeniaOrganizersFacebook: Zenia Organizers

[  1:05  ]  How Launch Made Simple came to be[  5:17  ]  Business partner soul mates[  13:28  ]  High touch for lifetime clients[  21:18  ]  Close the sale: answer the phone[  23:10  ]  Redesigning your boundaries as your business grows[  27:33  ]  Organizing as business partners[  29:44  ]  Getting the whole team on board with tech[  32:48  ]  Keep experts around you  Connect with Abigail TeifenthalerYou can learn more at LaunchesMadeSimple.com and connect with Abigail on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn. Afraid you're making a common marketing mistake? Download her guide here to save money time and energy. Connect with Brittany SingerYou can reach Brittany on Instagram at @executiveorderpodcast  and Facebook at Executive Order Podcast  and on Twitter at @ExecOrderPod. If you have ideas for topics or guests you'd like to hear on the show please send a note through any of these channels.Connect with Zenia OrganizersYou can also learn more about Brittany's Organizing business at ZeniaOrganizers.com . If you're interested in getting support and assistance with getting your life or business organized once and for all send her a message at hello@zeniaorganizers.comInstagram: @ZeniaOrganizersFacebook: Zenia Organizers

Catherine Wood is an executive and business coach, author, and creator of the UNBOUNDED Mastermind, her yearlong signature program for under-the-radar yet total badass and big-hearted, service-based women entrepreneurs. Catherine believes that we each hold within us the capacity to be deeply joyful and content. [  1:26  ] What is an ontological coach?[  5:05  ] The journey to what we really want[  9:05  ] Taking care of yourself from within[  12:35  ] Building and tuning your morning routine[  18:05  ] Let your routines evolve and change[  21:35  ] Reframing our relationship to resistance[  25:08  ] Tracking data to get business clarity[  30:02  ] You[re the expert of your own life[  31:35  ] Why service based entrepreneurs light Catherine upConnect with Catherine WoodFind Catherine at Unbounded-Potential.com and learn more about her coaching program here For more insight follow her @UnboundPotential. on Instagram.Connect with Brittany SingerYou can reach Brittany on Instagram at @executiveorderpodcast  and Facebook at Executive Order Podcast  and on Twitter at @ExecOrderPod. If you have ideas for topics or guests you'd like to hear on the show please send a note through any of these channels.Connect with Zenia OrganizersYou can also learn more about Brittany's Organizing business at ZeniaOrganizers.com . If you're interested in getting support and assistance with getting your life or business organized once and for all send her a message at hello@zeniaorganizers.comInstagram: @ZeniaOrganizersFacebook: Zenia Organizers 

Jenny Ambrose is the founder of an award winning design science & strategy studio, Purée Fantastico. Part scientist, part artist, all powerhouse, Jenny knows how to sync with her client's deepest voice and concerns and communicate the solutions as if they'd always been present (because they are!). Her business blends design with anthropology—something that no one else does, nor has anyone else dared to do. She made her niche and she's sticking to it -- with gusto and a passion that far outweighs that of her counterparts.[ 2:56 ]  Empathy and design[ 5:08 ]  Anthropology and design[ 8:26 ]  There is so.much.more to design than visuals[ 14:15 ]  Niching down?[ 18:51 ]  When Jenny knew it was time for  Purée Fantastico[ 24:27 ]  You have to bet on yourself[ 36:19 ]  You still need hobbies even when you love your work[ 39:17 ]  The chancellor of joy and master of glitterConnect with Jenny AmbroseCheck out her routine template workbook and visit her at PureeFanstatico.com. Connect with her @PureeFantastico and on Facebook. Connect with Brittany SingerYou can reach Brittany on Instagram at @executiveorderpodcast  and Facebook at Executive Order Podcast  and on Twitter at @ExecOrderPod. If you have ideas for topics or guests you'd like to hear on the show please send a note through any of these channels.Connect with Zenia OrganizersYou can also learn more about Brittany's Organizing business at ZeniaOrganizers.com . If you're interested in getting support and assistance with getting your life or business organized once and for all send her a message at hello@zeniaorganizers.comInstagram: @ZeniaOrganizersFacebook: Zenia Organizers

Joanna Rawbone is the founder of Flourishing Introverts. She made the decision to champion introverts after seeing introverts being overlooked and dismissed because they didn't always speak up or join in.  Through Flourishing Introverts she supports those who wanted to fulfill their potential without pretending to be something they're not. She promotes positive action and balance within organizations between introverts and extroverts.[  1:47  ]  Introvert in an extrovert world[  5:22  ]  Listening to understand[  6:43  ]  What is an introvert?[  9:13  ] Brittany loves that she's boring[  11:38  ]  Is there a gender divide?[  14:39  ]  Why is extroversion the de facto in business?[  20:45  ]  Recharging your batteries[  27:09  ]  Building your battery backup[  32:25  ]  Knowing what to delegate[  35:57  ]  Email dilemmaConnect with Joanna RawboneCheck out Jo's Tedx Talk Tackling the Extroversion Bias. Take her Introverted quiz, listen to her podcast, and connect with her through FlourishingIntroverts.comConnect with Brittany SingerYou can reach Brittany on Instagram at @executiveorderpodcast  and Facebook at Executive Order Podcast  and on Twitter at @ExecOrderPod. If you have ideas for topics or guests you'd like to hear on the show please send a note through any of these channels.Connect with Zenia OrganizersYou can also learn more about Brittany's Organizing business at ZeniaOrganizers.com . If you're interested in getting support and assistance with getting your life or business organized once and for all send her a message at hello@zeniaorganizers.comInstagram: @ZeniaOrganizersFacebook: Zenia Organizers

Kristen David empowers business owners to build profitable businesses that are self-managed by leveraging her proprietary system: The 4 Pillars of Successful Business Management. Kristen's no-nonsense approach and results-oriented methodology has allowed her to help more than 1,500 business owners better manage their businesses. Kristen walks the walk by running her own thriving, profitable business, Upleveling Your Business, virtually while traveling the world. She is dedicated to helping business owners build a business so they can live life freely and “thrive in the moment.” [  2:48  ]   Learning to delegate[  6:05  ]  4  Pillars of business management[  9:14   ]  Developing and organizing systems[  12:34  ]  Give yourself less time to get more done[  14:30  ] Systemize to get more efficient[  17:50  ]  Building for longevity[  20:02  ] Policies and procedures aren't static[  25:49  ]  Systems at home: Closet redo[  30:38  ]  "Your environment is a reflection of your brand"Connect with Kristen DavidFind Kristen at TheKristenDavid.com and at UpLevelingYourBusiness.com. You can also find her @TheKristenDavid on Instagram and  in her Facebook Group Up Leveling Your Business  Connect with Brittany SingerYou can reach Brittany on Instagram at @executiveorderpodcast  and Facebook at Executive Order Podcast  and on Twitter at @ExecOrderPod. If you have ideas for topics or guests you'd like to hear on the show please send a note through any of these channels.Connect with Zenia OrganizersYou can also learn more about Brittany's Organizing business at ZeniaOrganizers.com . If you're interested in getting support and assistance with getting your life or business organized once and for all send her a message at hello@zeniaorganizers.comInstagram: @ZeniaOrganizersFacebook: Zenia Organizers

Maura Barclay is an intuitive leadership consultant and Neuro Facilitation Practitioner. She is best known for her groundbreaking work in the intuitive empowerment field with her book and Unbreakable Woman® programs which she presented for nearly two decades across the nation for federal agencies, fortune 500 companies, and the US military. Her intuitive, embodied career began with more than 10 years teaching immersive workshops and teacher trainings in therapeutic yoga, meditation and embodied anatomy.[ 4:02 ]  We're diverse, but our problems are universal[ 10:26 ]  Manifesting and visualizing results[ 12:39 ]  Discerning who is the right client for you[ 17:10 ]  Define, Align, Unwind to make change[ 22:34 ]  Sitting in the fire[ 31:35 ]  Transformational  properties of loveConnect with Maura BarclayYou can learn more at soulfuleader.com, follow her on Instagram @soulfuleader  or on her Youtube channel here. And if you'd like to join her Facebook group you can find her here  Soulfuleader Collective. Connect with Brittany SingerYou can reach Brittany on Instagram at @executiveorderpodcast  and Facebook at Executive Order Podcast  and on Twitter at @ExecOrderPod. If you have ideas for topics or guests you'd like to hear on the show please send a note through any of these channels.Connect with Zenia OrganizersYou can also learn more about Brittany's Organizing business at ZeniaOrganizers.com . If you're interested in getting support and assistance with getting your life or business organized once and for all send her a message at hello@zeniaorganizers.comInstagram: @ZeniaOrganizersFacebook: Zenia Organizers

Katie Fisher of KD Creative Balance mentors and teaches business owners how to take profitable action steps. Her students learn how to build their sales platforms, understand their numbers, and use online marketing strategies to make an impact.[ 3:26 ]  The importance of opening your mail[ 6:16 ]  The in-between place for bills and receipts[ 8:55 ]  Do what you can when you can[ 12:20 ]  Using a business credit card to track expenses[ 16:40 ]  Going from disorganization, to strict minimalism, to sustainable organization habits[ 20:41 ]  The fiscal benefits of opening your mail[ 22:01 ]  Organization styles at work vs. at home[ 23:33 ]  Don't over complicate your systems[ 23:56 ]  Best practices to help if you ever get auditedConnect with Katie FisherYou can learn more at KDCreativeBalance.com, follow her on Instagram @kdcreativebalance, or on Facebook at Creative Balance. Plus you can listen to her podcast  Behind the Books.Connect with Brittany SingerYou can reach Brittany on Instagram at @executiveorderpodcast  and Facebook at Executive Order Podcast  and on Twitter at @ExecOrderPod. If you have ideas for topics or guests you'd like to hear on the show please send a note through any of these channels.Connect with Zenia OrganizersYou can also learn more about Brittany's Organizing business at ZeniaOrganizers.com . If you're interested in getting support and assistance with getting your life or business organized once and for all send her a message at hello@zeniaorganizers.comInstagram: @ZeniaOrganizersFacebook: Zenia Organizers

 Victoria Hines is a Creative Career Coach who helps creative artists navigate career pivots as well as level-up in their careers so that they can build a life that is energizing and sustainable. She spent over 10 years working primarily in the theater and film industries as an actor, events producer, arts administrator, and fundraiser working with theater companies, conferences, festivals, and live events. As a teenage cancer survivor and artist herself, she deeply understands navigating uncertainty and trying to answer the age old question: how do you do what you love and make a living? [ 2:08 ]  How Victoria went from creative to creative coach[ 6:08 ]  Asking the right questions to level up[ 8:45 ]  Creating a strategy and turning it to action[ 12:34 ] Learning to be organized[ 14:50 ]  Weekly planning and themed days[ 17:15 ]  Morning person?[ 21:00 ]  Scheduling time for yourself[ 25:55 ]  Wanting change, but being a creature of habitConnect with Victoria HinesYou can learn more at www.victoriahines.com, follow her on Instagram @thevictoriahines, or check out her weekly room on Clubhouse @VictoriaHinesConnect with Brittany SingerYou can reach Brittany on Instagram at @executiveorderpodcast  and Facebook at Executive Order Podcast  and on Twitter at @ExecOrderPod. If you have ideas for topics or guests you'd like to hear on the show please send a note through any of these channels.Connect with Zenia OrganizersYou can also learn more about Brittany's Organizing business at ZeniaOrganizers.com . If you're interested in getting support and assistance with getting your life or business organized once and for all send her a message at hello@zeniaorganizers.comInstagram: @ZeniaOrganizersFacebook: Zenia Organizers

I am so excited to introduce Executive Order Podcast! This is a show for business owners and aspiring business owners who like learning from other regardless of their field of expertise. We all have something we can learn and teach to one another.