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Are you interested adaptation and reuse? What do you think about the cities as the safest zones for climate? How can we maximise serendipity in cities? Trailer for episode 422 - interview with Greg Lindsay, urbanist, futurist and author. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, people leaving cities, maintenance, urban programming, spatial mismatch, and many more.Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested adaptation and reuse? What do you think about the cities as the safest zones for climate? How can we maximise serendipity in cities? Trailer for episode 422 - interview with Greg Lindsay, urbanist, futurist and author. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, people leaving cities, maintenance, urban programming, spatial mismatch, and many more.Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

"Just consider the possibility that we don't have to suffer to solve climate change."Are you interested in green growth to battle climate change instead of degrowth? What do you think about mayors making the best for their cities, thus, solving climate change? How can we create even more pockets of delight? Interview with Josh Dorfman, co-founder of Plantd and CEO and host of Supercool podcast. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, technology, industry innovation, people's responsibility, the need for a vision, and many more. Josh Dorfman is a climate entrepreneur, author, and media personality with two decades turning low-carbon innovations into products people actually want. As CEO and host of Supercool, he spotlights companies scaling climate solutions that cut emissions, boost profits, and improve daily life through a weekly podcast and platform. He co-founded Plantd in 2021, raised $19.5 million as CEO, partnered with D.R. Horton, and earned Fast Company's Most Innovative Companies nod for carbon-negative building materials. He now serves as fractional CMO. Previously, he led Vine.com at Amazon and built The Lazy Environmentalist into TV, radio, and books.Learn more about Josh through these links:Josh Dorfman on LinkedIn@Josh_Dorfman as Josh Dorfman on Xas Josh Dorfman on InstagramSupercool websiteSupercool on LinkedInSupercool on Youtubeas Supercool on X@getsupercool as Supercool on InstagramPlantd websitePlantd on LinkedIn@PlantdMaterials as Plantd on X@plantdmaterials as Plantd on InstagramConnected episodes you might be interested in:No.274 - Interview with Richard Gill about the upcoming transformationsNo.410 - Interview with Casey Handmer about the need for economic growthNo.418 - Interview with Zoe Wang about making regenerative solutions easy to adoptNo.419R - Green growth or degrowth? Possible outcomes for climate and societyWhat was the most interesting part for you? What questions did arise for you? Let me know on Twitter @WTF4Cities or on the wtf4cities.com website where the shownotes are also available.I hope this was an interesting episode for you and thanks for tuning in.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in green growth to battle climate change instead of degrowth? What do you think about mayors making the best for their cities, thus, solving climate change? How can we create even more pockets of delight? Trailer for episode 420 - interview with Josh Dorfman, co-founder of Plantd and CEO and host of Supercool podcast. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, technology, industry innovation, people's responsibility, the need for a vision, and many more. Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in the possibility of green growth instead of degrowth for better urban futures? Debate of the article titled Green growth or degrowth? Possible outcomes for climate and society from 2025, by Phoenix Eskridge-Aldama, Aden Stern, Anna Vaughn, and Diana Stuart, published in the Highlights of Sustainability journal.This is a great preparation to our next interview with Josh Dorfman in episode 420 talking about the need for people's need to be open to the idea of green growth. Since we are investigating the future of cities, I thought it would be interesting to see whether we can talk about growth with green solutions for the better future instead of the degrowth idea. This article investigates the ongoing debate between green growth and degrowth as competing strategies for addressing the climate crisis and enhance wellbeing.Find the article through this link.Abstract: As global temperatures continue to rise, those in favor of rapid climate mitigation face critical questions regarding maintaining current levels of economic growth. On a global scale, there remains a clear positive correlation between economic growth and carbon emissions, leading many climate scientists to call for a move away from a growth-focused economy. In this article, we draw from recent research to compare possible outcomes in terms of social well-being and climate mitigation for green growth and degrowth pathways. Green growth aims to maintain economic growth while reducing carbon emissions. Degrowth calls for a purposeful contraction of economic growth in wealthy countries. Drawing from recent studies, we compile evidence to compare these pathways and assess how each of these key strategies is evaluated and framed in the literature. We find that research indicates clear differences between these pathways in terms of mitigation potential and risks to human welfare, and we call for future research on specific topics related to a degrowth transition. Additionally, we identify issues of feasibility as primary concerns within both paradigms.Connected episodes you might be interested in:No.409R - The case for economic growth as the path to better human wellbeingNo.410 - Interview with Casey Handmer about the need for economic growthYou can find the transcript through this linkWhat was the most interesting part for you? What questions did arise for you? Let me know on Twitter @WTF4Cities or on the wtf4cities.com website where the shownotes are also availableI hope this was an interesting episode for you and thanks for tuning inEpisode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link)Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in green growth to battle climate change instead of degrowth? What do you think about mayors making the best for their cities, thus, solving climate change? How can we create even more pockets of delight? Trailer for episode 420 - interview with Josh Dorfman, co-founder of Plantd and CEO and host of Supercool podcast. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, technology, industry innovation, people's responsibility, the need for a vision, and many more. Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in green growth to battle climate change instead of degrowth? What do you think about mayors making the best for their cities, thus, solving climate change? How can we create even more pockets of delight? Trailer for episode 420 - interview with Josh Dorfman, co-founder of Plantd and CEO and host of Supercool podcast. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, technology, industry innovation, people's responsibility, the need for a vision, and many more. Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

"One role designers can play is to make these kind of regenerative choices very beautiful, and easy for people to adopt."Are you interested in the opportunities within adaptive urban furniture? What do you think about the transition period between the present and future? How can we utilise multipurpose urban infrastructure for better urban futures? Interview with Zoe Wang, landscape architect and urban designer. We will talk about her vision for the future of cities, regeneration, multipurpose infrastructure, adaptive urban furniture, and many more. Zoe Wang is a landscape architect and urban designer who is passionate about regenerative urban systems. With seven years of experience in the built environment, she explores how cities can shift from extractive infrastructures to living infrastructures that participate in the Earth's natural cycles. She is currently collaborating with the City of Melbourne through the Fishermans Bend Digital Innovation Challenge, piloting public furniture integrated with worm farming to support urban nutrient circularity. Zoe's work brings together design, ecology, and community participation to create urban environments where people and natural systems can regenerate together.Find out more about Zoe through these links:Zoe Wang on LinkedIn@upsoilcollective as Upsoil Collective on InstagramSustainable seats with a squirmy twist - launch event newsWorms at Work Launch event on YoutubeWorms at Work - Council project websiteStay Connected with Our Worm Furniture Movement - google formConnecting episodes you might be interested in:No.266 - Interview with Alison Whitten about regenerative urbanismNo.410 - Interview with Casey Handmer about why urbanism helps specialisationNo.417R - Adaptive urban furniture and its role in the climate resilience of public spaceWhat was the most interesting part for you? What questions did arise for you? Let me know on Twitter @WTF4Cities or on the wtf4cities.com website where the shownotes are also available.I hope this was an interesting episode for you and thanks for tuning in.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in the opportunities within adaptive urban furniture? What do you think about the transition period between the present and future? How can we utilise multipurpose urban infrastructure for better urban futures? Trailer for episode 418 - interview with Zoe Wang, landscape architect and urban designer. We will talk about her vision for the future of cities, regeneration, multipurpose infrastructure, adaptive urban furniture, and many more. Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in opportunities of adaptive urban furniture? Debate of the article titled Adaptive urban furniture and its role in the climate resilience of public space from 2025, by Dagmar Kuta and Viktor Mican, published in the MDPI Engineering Proceedings journal.This is a great preparation to our next interview with Zoe Wang in episode 418 talking about the worm bench as an example of adaptive urban furniture. Since we are investigating the future of cities, I thought it would be interesting to see how adaptive urban furniture serves as a vital tool for increasing climate resilience within public space. This article emphasizes how much these elements provide environmental benefits like cooling and biodiversity support while simultaneously fostering social interaction.Find the article through this link.Abstract: This article explores the integration of urban design and climate strategy at the scale of small urban architecture. It offers a comparative overview of case studies—realized projects, research prototypes, and strategic manuals—highlighting urban furniture as a tool for climate adaptation and outlining decision-making methods in public administration.Connected episodes you might be interested in:No.266 - Interview with Alison Whitten about regenerative urbanismNo.410 - Interview with Casey Handmer about why urbanism helps specialisationYou can find the transcript through this linkWhat was the most interesting part for you? What questions did arise for you? Let me know on Twitter @WTF4Cities or on the wtf4cities.com website where the shownotes are also availableI hope this was an interesting episode for you and thanks for tuning inEpisode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link)Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in the opportunities within adaptive urban furniture? What do you think about the transition period between the present and future? How can we utilise multipurpose urban infrastructure for better urban futures? Trailer for episode 418 - interview with Zoe Wang, landscape architect and urban designer. We will talk about her vision for the future of cities, regeneration, multipurpose infrastructure, adaptive urban furniture, and many more. Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in the opportunities within adaptive urban furniture? What do you think about the transition period between the present and future? How can we utilise multipurpose urban infrastructure for better urban futures? Trailer for episode 418 - interview with Zoe Wang, landscape architect and urban designer. We will talk about her vision for the future of cities, regeneration, multipurpose infrastructure, adaptive urban furniture, and many more. Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

"We should rethink how our cities and systems work with culture and arts."Are you interested in the opportunities within the African continent? What do you think about the difference between arts and culture? How can we utilise arts and business for the better future for cities? Interview with Raoul Rugamba, founder of Africa in Colors and entrepreneur. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, culture and arts, the missing links on the African continent, business opportunities in arts, and many more. Raoul Rugamba is a Rwandan serial entrepreneur and investor based in Kigali. With nearly 20 years in tech, arts, and creative industries, he founded Hobe Agency in 2015 for creative communication and events. In 2018, he launched Africa in Colors (AIC), a pan-African initiative to boost the creative ecosystem through education, collaboration, and funding access. Active in over 35 countries, AIC provides digital creativity training and hosts the annual Africa in Colors Festival. Raoul advises Rwanda's Ministry of Youth and Culture, serves as an African Union expert on arts-education policy, and focuses on creative cities and tech platforms to connect and monetize African creative talent.Find out more about Raoul through these links:Raoul Rugamba on LinkedIn@raoulrugamba as Raoul Rugamba on Xas Raoul Rugamba on InstagramAfrica in Colors websiteAfrica in Colors on LinkedInConnecting episodes you might be interested in:No.250 - Panel conversation on Space Cities about cultural evolutionNo.284 - Panel conversation with Emerging leaders about changing culture in AfricaNo.415R - Rethinking the contribution of creative economies in AfricaWhat was the most interesting part for you? What questions did arise for you? Let me know on Twitter @WTF4Cities or on the wtf4cities.com website where the shownotes are also available.I hope this was an interesting episode for you and thanks for tuning in.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in the opportunities within the African continent? What do you think about the difference between arts and culture? How can we utilise arts and business for the better future for cities? Trailer for episode 416 - interview with Raoul Rugamba, founder of Africa in Colors and entrepreneur. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, culture and arts, the missing links on the African continent, business opportunities in arts, and many more. Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in how creative economise are contributing in Africa? Debate of the article titled Rethinking the contribution of creative economies in Africa to sustainable development. An empirical research of creative intermediaries in Accra's contemporary art sector from 2025, by Jack D. Mensah, published in the International Journal of Cultural Policy.This is a great preparation to our next interview with Raoul Rugamba in episode 416 talking about the opportunities within the African continent through arts and culture. Since we are investigating the future of cities, I thought it would be interesting to see how African creative economies can better support sustainable development. This article advocates for a regenerative cultural policy that treats arts as a holistic tool for achieving sustainability rather than just a source of financial growth.Find the article through this link.Abstract: The Creative Economy (CE) has emerged as a significant cultural policy agenda, offering promising pathways to promote Sustainable Development (SD) in African countries. However, growth-focused CE paradigms often fail to reflect the empirical realities faced by cultural stakeholders in Africa, which may hinder the effective use of culture in advancing Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs). Addressing this requires holistic, regenerative approaches to CEs that prioritise the system-enhancing qualities of culture and focus on how cultural workers collaborate and navigate dysfunctional cultural policy infrastructures. This article, therefore, examines the role of creative intermediaries in rethinking the conditions that may enable meaningful contributions toward the SDGs through CEs. Based on 14 days of fieldwork conducted in the visual arts community of Accra, Ghana, in July 2022, the empirical research identifies creative intermediaries as pivotal actors in Ghana's CE, contributing in ways that align with the interconnected dimensions of the SDGs. This article proposes that cultural enabling is an intrinsic working practice of these creative intermediaries and a fundamental function of CEs. Thus, a regenerative cultural policy approach towards CEs supports sustainability efforts and acts as a catalyst for whole-system health.Connected episodes you might be interested in:No.250 - Panel conversation on Space Cities about cultural evolutionNo.284 - Panel conversation with Emerging leaders about changing culture in AfricaYou can find the transcript through this linkWhat was the most interesting part for you? What questions did arise for you? Let me know on Twitter @WTF4Cities or on the wtf4cities.com website where the shownotes are also availableI hope this was an interesting episode for you and thanks for tuning inEpisode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link)Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in the opportunities within the African continent? What do you think about the difference between arts and culture? How can we utilise arts and business for the better future for cities? Trailer for episode 416 - interview with Raoul Rugamba, founder of Africa in Colors and entrepreneur. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, culture and arts, the missing links on the African continent, business opportunities in arts, and many more. Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in the opportunities within the African continent? What do you think about the difference between arts and culture? How can we utilise arts and business for the better future for cities? Trailer for episode 416 - interview with Raoul Rugamba, founder of Africa in Colors and entrepreneur. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, culture and arts, the missing links on the African continent, business opportunities in arts, and many more. Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

"I reckon the whole motor industry is on its lats legs and shared mobility and autonomous vehicles will take over in the next ten years."Are you interested in autonomous vehicles? What do you think can be the best use of autonomous vehicles? How can we utilise autonomous vehicles, not just cars, for the max? Interview with Cormac McKay, environmental technologist and policy advisor. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, autonomous vehicles, public transportation, and many more. Cormac McKay is an environmental technologist and policy adviser with years of experience advocating for autonomous shared mobility. He has collaborated with public and private stakeholders to advance low-emission transport solutions. His mission is to educate industry leaders and planners on leveraging technology for climate adaptation. Cormac is also a commentator on transport innovation, road safety, and climate resilience. He is registered for independent unpaid lobbying in Ireland.Find out more about Cormac through these links:Cormac McKay on LinkedIn@cormacDublin as Cormac McKay on XCormac McKay lobbying profileConnecting episodes you might be interested in:No.353R - Urban mobility scenarios until the 2030sNo.364 - Interview with Brett Ferrin about autonomous vehiclesNo.404 - Interview with Jeff Siegler about behavioural scienceNo.413R - Impacts of connected and autonomous vehicles on urban transportation and environmentWhat was the most interesting part for you? What questions did arise for you? Let me know on Twitter @WTF4Cities or on the wtf4cities.com website where the shownotes are also available.I hope this was an interesting episode for you and thanks for tuning in.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in autonomous vehicles? What do you think can be the best use of autonomous vehicles? How can we utilise autonomous vehicles, not just cars, for the max? Trailer for episode 414 - interview with Cormac McKay, environmental technologist and policy advisor. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, autonomous vehicles, public transportation, and many more. Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in the impacts of autonomous vehicles on the urban fabric? Debate about the article titled Impacts of connected and autonomous vehicles on urban transportation and environment: A comprehensive review from 2023, by Md. Mokhlesur Rahman and Jean-Claude Thill, published in the Sustainable Cities and Society journal.This is a great preparation to our next interview with Cormac McKay in episode 414 talking about the opportunities with autonomous vehicles. Since we are investigating the future of cities, I thought it would be interesting to see the SWOT analysis of autonomous vehicles for the future of cities. This article investigates the short, medium, and long-term impacts of connected and autonomous vehicles on urban transportation, the environment, and city planning.Find the article through this link.Abstract: The article discusses the short, medium, and long-term effects of Autonomous Vehicles (AVs) on the urban transportation and environment by means of a systematic review of the extant literature on the subject matter. A corpus of 130 articles was collected from multiple sources using selected keywords. The review critically analyzes key findings of these papers in the light of a SWOT (Strength, Weakness, Opportunity, and Threat) analysis. Although the technology remains to be commercially deployed, broad consensus is found in the literature. First, AV would influence urban transportation and human mobility by reducing vehicle ownership, public and active travel, traffic delay and congestion, travel costs, and by increasing accessibility, mobility, Vehicle Miles Traveled, and revenue generation for commercial operators. Second, AVs would have long-term effects by encouraging dispersed urban development, reducing parking demand, and enhancing network capacity. Third, AVs would reduce energy consumption and protect the environment by reducing Greenhouse Gas emissions. Fourth, AVs would reduce traffic crashes involving human errors and increase the convenience and productivity of passengers by facilitating for multitasking. However, most people are very concerned about personal safety, security, and privacy. Finally, the study identifies critical research gaps and advances priority directions for further research.Connected episodes you might be interested in:No.222 - Interview with Adam Dorr about the opportunities with transport innovationNo.353R - Urban mobility scenarios until the 2030sNo.364 - Interview with Brett Ferrin about autonomous vehiclesYou can find the transcript through this linkWhat was the most interesting part for you? What questions did arise for you? Let me know on Twitter @WTF4Cities or on the wtf4cities.com website where the shownotes are also availableI hope this was an interesting episode for you and thanks for tuning inEpisode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link)Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in autonomous vehicles? What do you think can be the best use of autonomous vehicles? How can we utilise autonomous vehicles, not just cars, for the max? Trailer for episode 414 - interview with Cormac McKay, environmental technologist and policy advisor. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, autonomous vehicles, public transportation, and many more. Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in autonomous vehicles? What do you think can be the best use of autonomous vehicles? How can we utilise autonomous vehicles, not just cars, for the max? Trailer for episode 414 - interview with Cormac McKay, environmental technologist and policy advisor. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, autonomous vehicles, public transportation, and many more. Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

"It's not rocket science to do this. We are closer [to the ideal situation] than we think."Are you interested in urban food forests? What do you think about regeneration as investment with the highest ROI? How can we get even closer to the ideal future of cities than we currently are? Interview with Louis de Jaeger, award-winning filmmaker, author, and landscape designer. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, regeneration, urban food forests, vertical farming, participation, and many more. Louis de Jaeger is a Belgian landscape designer, entrepreneur and inspirator on a mission to regenerate 550 million hectares of land - cooling the planet by 2°C, saving biodiversity, ending hunger and fostering world peace. Through wild edible plants, he reconnects people with nature to inspire its protection. CEO of Commensalist and Europe's CEO of the year 2025 in landscape design, he leads global regenerative projects. Award-winning filmmaker, bestselling author and international speaker, he co-founded Ten Lives Festivals, Eat More Trees, ByeByeGrass, European Sleeper and Food Forest Institute.Find out more about Louis through these links:Louis de Jaeger on LinkedInLouis de Jaeger website@LouCommensalist as Louis de Jaeger on X@louis.de.jaeger as Louis de Jaeger on InstagramCommensalist website@commensalist.landscape as Commensalist on InstagramCommensalist on YoutubeEat More Trees - movie about food treesSOS: Save Our Soils - book by Louis de JaegerFood Forest Institute website@thefoodforestinstitute as Food Forest Institute on InstagramConnecting episodes you might be interested in:No.391R - multiple Sebastian Pfautsch articles about being climate smart in citiesNo.392 - Interview with Sebastian Pfautsch about how trees can help decrease the urban heat island effectNo.400 - Panel conversation with Allan Savory about agriculture being the foundation of cities411R - Is coastal climate adaptation infrastructure worth public investment?What was the most interesting part for you? What questions did arise for you? Let me know on Twitter @WTF4Cities or on the wtf4cities.com website where the shownotes are also available.I hope this was an interesting episode for you and thanks for tuning in.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in urban food forests? What do you think about regeneration as investment with the highest ROI? How can we get even closer to the ideal future of cities than we currently are? Trailer for episode 412 - interview with Louis de Jaeger, award-winning filmmaker, author, and landscape designer. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, regeneration, urban food forests, vertical farming, participation, and many more.Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in the economic valuation of grey vs green infrastructure solutions? Debate of the article titled Is coastal climate adaptation infrastructure worth public investment? Evidence from stated preference economic valuation and cost-benefit analysis from 2025, by Haoluan Wang, published in the Journal of Environmental Management.This is a great preparation to our next interview with Louis de Jaeger in episode 412 talking about the need for regenerative nature based solutions instead of degenerative infrastructure. Since we are investigating the future of cities, I thought it would be interesting to see how green and grey adaptation infrastructure compare not just in solving the problems, but financially. This article investigates the economic viability of coastal climate adaptation by comparing green vs grey infrastructure.Find the article through this link.Abstract: Public preferences for climate adaptation infrastructure have been increasingly studied worldwide due to climate change and sea-level rise, especially in coastal regions. In this study, we conduct a discrete choice experiment among South Florida residents to elicit their willingness to pay (WTP) for climate adaptation projects that incorporate both green and grey infrastructure along the coastline. By combining engineering cost estimates for these projects with the aggregate WTP from residents, we further perform a comprehensive cost-benefit analysis. Our findings reveal a strong preference for green infrastructure over grey infrastructure among residents. Certain respondent characteristics account for the differences in WTP for climate adaptation projects. Our cost-benefit analysis shows that all coastal climate adaptation projects examined in this study are worthy of public investment. However, projects focusing on green infrastructure offer a benefit-cost ratio more than double that of grey infrastructure. As the lifespan of the project increases, so does the benefit-cost ratio that these projects can generate. Overall, our results provide valuable policy insights for coastal protection strategies and planning.Connecting episodes you might be interested in:No.257R - Formal Model for Green Urbanism in Smart CitiesNo.258 - Interview with Matt Gijselman about green and blue infrastructureYou can find the transcript through this linkWhat was the most interesting part for you? What questions did arise for you? Let me know on Twitter @WTF4Cities or on the wtf4cities.com website where the shownotes are also availableI hope this was an interesting episode for you and thanks for tuning inEpisode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link)Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in urban food forests? What do you think about regeneration as investment with the highest ROI? How can we get even closer to the ideal future of cities than we currently are? Trailer for episode 412 - interview with Louis de Jaeger, award-winning filmmaker, author, and landscape designer. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, regeneration, urban food forests, vertical farming, participation, and many more.Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in urban food forests? What do you think about regeneration as investment with the highest ROI? How can we get even closer to the ideal future of cities than we currently are? Trailer for episode 412 - interview with Louis de Jaeger, award-winning filmmaker, author, and landscape designer. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, regeneration, urban food forests, vertical farming, participation, and many more.Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

"Let's build a future that's forward rather than back."Are you interested in building towards the future instead of backwards? What do you think about the threat of economic decline or stagnation? How can we utilise our evolved knowledge better to overcome the genius of past inventors? Interview with Casey Handmer, founder of Terraform Industries. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, city as an emergent element, building new cities, space settlements, the paradox of cities, economic foundations, and many more. Casey Handmer is a physicist, engineer, and entrepreneur who has made significant contributions to space technology and exploration. He earned his PhD in theoretical physics from Caltech and subsequently worked at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), where he was involved in GNSS science, Mars mapping, and advanced technology development. He founded Terraform Industries to make carbon-free synthetic natural gas from sunlight and air. Casey is also known for contributions to the Vesuvius scrolls project and high resolution Mars maps, as well as his insightful blog posts about space technology, infrastructure, and the future of human civilization, where he explores complex technical concepts in accessible ways.Find out more about Casey through these links:Casey Handmer on LinkedInCasey Handmer's BlogCasey Handmer websiteCasey Handmer on Youtube@CJHandmer as Casey Handmer on XTerraform Industries website@TerraformIndies as Terraform Industries on XConnecting episodes you might be interested in:No.314 - Interview with Andrew Vass about nuclear powerNo.390 - Interview with Robin Hanson about the need for secluded communitiesNo.409R - The case for economic growth as the path to better human wellbeingWhat was the most interesting part for you? What questions did arise for you? Let me know on Twitter @WTF4Cities or on the wtf4cities.com website where the shownotes are also available.I hope this was an interesting episode for you and thanks for tuning in.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in building towards the future instead of backwards? What do you think about the threat of economic decline or stagnation? How can we utilise our evolved knowledge better to overcome the genius of past inventors? Trailer for episode 410 - interview with Casey Handmer, founder of Terraform Industries. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, city as an emergent element, building new cities, space settlements, the paradox of cities, economic foundations, and many more.Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in how economic growth is connected to human wellbeing? Debate of the article titled The case for economic growth as the path to better human wellbeing from 2024, by Lant Pritchett. This is a great preparation to our next interview with Casey Handmer in episode 410 talking about the necessity of urban economic growth for human prosperity. Since we are investigating the future of cities, I thought it would be interesting to see whether economic growth is an essential driver for improving human material wellbeing. This article suggests that GDP per capita remains the most reliable predictor of improvements in health, education, and basic living standards.Find the article through this link.Connecting episodes you might be interested in:No.256 - Interview with Marcus Foth about why economic growth is important for better urban futuresNo.347R - The economy forward framework: How midsized cities can achieve inclusive growth in the knowledge economyNo.378 - Interview with Remco Deelstra about leaving the city alone to innovate and growYou can find the transcript through this linkWhat was the most interesting part for you? What questions did arise for you? Let me know on Twitter @WTF4Cities or on the wtf4cities.com website where the shownotes are also availableI hope this was an interesting episode for you and thanks for tuning inEpisode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link)Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in building towards the future instead of backwards? What do you think about the threat of economic decline or stagnation? How can we utilise our evolved knowledge better to overcome the genius of past inventors? Trailer for episode 410 - interview with Casey Handmer, founder of Terraform Industries. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, city as an emergent element, building new cities, space settlements, the paradox of cities, economic foundations, and many more.Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in building towards the future instead of backwards? What do you think about the threat of economic decline or stagnation? How can we utilise our evolved knowledge better to overcome the genius of past inventors? Trailer for episode 410 - interview with Casey Handmer, founder of Terraform Industries. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, city as an emergent element, building new cities, space settlements, the paradox of cities, economic foundations, and many more.Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

"If you want big impact, you've gotta solve big meaningful problems."Are you interested in the profitability of sustainability? What do you think about sustainability as a platform for innovation? How can we, the people, move ourselves and the system towards better urban futures? Interview with Jasper Steinhausen, founder of Business with Impact. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, sustainability, governmental and individual roles, value and impact, and many more. Jasper Steinhausen is a 20-year veteran in circular economy and purpose-driven strategy, dedicated to helping CEOs integrate impact into performance. Author of the Amazon international bestselling book “Making sustainability profitable”, he demonstrates how a focus on impact drives growth, resilience and cost reductions while creating better solutions – whether that is better cities or products for your business. His achievements include advising the Danish government and progressive cities like Copenhagen and Aarhus in Denmark. He has also advised companies like Ørsted and Grundfos, hosting the top 1% podcast Green business with impact, and transforming over 100 organisations worldwide. He trains 3-500 leaders yearly in his approach to creating impact through better business.Find out more about Jasper through these links:Jasper Steinhausen on LinkedIn@jsteinhausen as Jasper Steinhausen on X@jaspers_dk as Jasper Steinhausen on InstagramJasper Steinhausen and Business with Impact on YoutubeBusiness with Impact websiteBusiness with Impact on LinkedInMaking Sustainability Profitable - book with a free mini-course walking people through all the key points and questions to ask by Jasper SteinhausenConnecting episodes you might be interested in:No234 - Interview with Tenzin Crouch about the importance of culture of innovationNo.274 - Interview with Richard Gill about the importance of the north-star visionNo.407R - Making sustainability profitableWhat was the most interesting part for you? What questions did arise for you? Let me know on Twitter @WTF4Cities or on the wtf4cities.com website where the shownotes are also available.I hope this was an interesting episode for you and thanks for tuning in.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in the profitability of sustainability? What do you think about sustainability as a platform for innovation? How can we, the people, move ourselves and the system towards better urban futures? Trailer for episode 408 - interview with Jasper Steinhausen, founder of Business with Impact. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, sustainability, governmental and individual roles, value and impact, and many more.Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested how sustainability can be profitable? Debate of the book titled Making Sustainability Profitable from 2023, by Jasper Steinhausen. This is a great preparation to our next interview with Jasper Steinhausen in episode 408 talking about sustainability as a platform for innovation. Since we are investigating the future of cities, I thought it would be interesting to see sustainability from a different, business perspective. This book serves as a strategic manual for organisations looking to merge environmental responsibility with financial growth.Find the book through this link.Description: Today, every company must consider its environmental impact and how to hard-wire sustainability into everything it does. This book holds the secret to turn your sustainability drive into a superpower that will make your business a force for good and a magnet for clients, partners and talent. Addressing common questions and misconceptions about the cost of sustainability, Making Sustainability Profitable takes you through the five core principles of the Impact Blueprint that will boost your company's sustainability credentials and profitability. Find out how to:Build sustainability into your business and thriveAdjust your mindset and realise that sustainability and profitability are compatibleDiscover the right steps for your company using the Impact BlueprintDeploy your principles and processes to attract and inspire clients, employees and fellow business leadersCommunicate about sustainability without greenwashingConnecting episodes you might be interested in- No.234 - Interview with Tenzin Crouch about the importance of culture of innovationNo.274 - Interview with Richard Gill about the importance of the north-star visionYou can find the transcript through this linkWhat was the most interesting part for you? What questions did arise for you? Let me know on Twitter @WTF4Cities or on the wtf4cities.com website where the shownotes are also availableI hope this was an interesting episode for you and thanks for tuning inEpisode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link)Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in the profitability of sustainability? What do you think about sustainability as a platform for innovation? How can we, the people, move ourselves and the system towards better urban futures? Trailer for episode 408 - interview with Jasper Steinhausen, founder of Business with Impact. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, sustainability, governmental and individual roles, value and impact, and many more.Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in the profitability of sustainability? What do you think about sustainability as a platform for innovation? How can we, the people, move ourselves and the system towards better urban futures? Trailer for episode 408 - interview with Jasper Steinhausen, founder of Business with Impact. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, sustainability, governmental and individual roles, value and impact, and many more.Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

"You have to fight for being part of the city and its future ... You have to invest in your city."Are you interested in the crisis of architecture? What do you think about equality as reducing suffering? How can we roll out visions without compromises? Interview with Alexander Josephson, founder of Cumulus and Partisans. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, optimism, visions getting compromised, investing in one's city, urban evolution, and many more. Alexander Josephson is a Toronto-based architect, designer, and entrepreneur. Co-founder of the acclaimed studio Partisans, which he established in 2012, he has led the practice to over 30 international awards for projects ranging from iconic interiors to urban installations. Trained in sculpture and architecture at the University of Waterloo and in Rome, he is the only Canadian recipient of the prestigious New York Prize Fellowship from the Van Alen Institute. In 2024 he founded Cumulus, a digital legacy platform that applies parametric design to create meaningful, immersive spaces for memory and grief. He lectures at the University of Toronto's Daniels Faculty of Architecture and is a registered architect in Ontario.Find out more about Alex through this link:Alex Josephson on LinkedInas Alex Josephson on Xas Alex Josephson on InstagramPartisans websitePartisans on LinkedInas Partisans on Xas Partisans on InstagramCumulus websiteCumulus on LinkedInas Cumulus on Xas Cumulus on InstagramConnecting episodes you might be interested in:No.259R - Lessons from nine urban areas using data to drive local sustainable developmentNo.404 - Interview with Jeff Siegler about ownershipNo.405R - The global homogenization of urban form. An assessment of 194 cities across timeWhat was the most interesting part for you? What questions did arise for you? Let me know on Twitter @WTF4Cities or on the wtf4cities.com website where the shownotes are also available.I hope this was an interesting episode for you and thanks for tuning in.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in the crisis of architecture? What do you think about equality as reducing suffering? How can we roll out visions without compromises? Trailer for episode 406 - interview with Alexander Josephson, founder of Cumulus and Partisans. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, optimism, visions getting compromised, investing in one's city, urban evolution, and many more.Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested how urban form has been influenced by globalisation? Debate of the article titled The global homogenization of urban form – An assessment of 194 cities from 2020, by Richard Lemoine-Rodríguez, Luis Inostroza, and Harald Zepp, published in the Landscape and Urban Planning journal.This is a great preparation to our next interview with Alex Josephson in episode 406 talking about the globalisation of architecture. Since we are investigating the future of cities, I thought it would be interesting to see the effect of globalisation on the built environment. This article shows most of cities becoming more homogenous and transitional as a consequence of fragmentation and compactness.Find the article through this link.Abstract: The spatial structure of cities, i.e. their composition, shape and degree of fragmentation or compactness, is a physical expression reflecting development efficiency. Identifying the evolution of urban systems in time and space is crucial towards sustainable urban development. In this paper, we assess the spatial structure of 194 cities from 1990 and 2015, in order to identify patterns, clusters of similar cities, trajectories, and the global distribution of urban form. We delineated the contiguous urban fabric, employed landscape metrics to quantitatively describe urban patterns, applied a Principal Component Analysis (PCA) to reduce the dimension of data to an uncorrelated set of variables and identified groups of cities with similar urban forms by means of hierarchical clustering. We found four types of urban form: compact-grey, transitional, ragged-small and fragmented-complex cities. Globally, continentally and regionally, cities have followed a trend towards more homogeneous urban forms, most of them becoming transitional as a consequence of both, processes of fragmentation and compactness. The only exception of this trend is a group of large cities in Australia, New Zealand and the United States, which are still predominantly fragmented-complex. Under the persisting process of urban expansion, small to medium-sized cities showed to be the most dynamic in terms of expansion and change in urban form, which makes them key towards sustainable urban development. This analysis contributes to the understanding of the transformations induced by the process of urban expansion that shapes urban form. Such information is crucial for achieving urban sustainability.Connecting episodes you might be interested in:No.259R - Lessons from nine urban areas using data to drive local sustainable developmentNo.404 - Interview with Jeff Siegler about ownershipYou can find the transcript through this linkWhat was the most interesting part for you? What questions did arise for you? Let me know on Twitter @WTF4Cities or on the wtf4cities.com website where the shownotes are also availableI hope this was an interesting episode for you and thanks for tuning inEpisode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link)Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in the crisis of architecture? What do you think about equality as reducing suffering? How can we roll out visions without compromises? Trailer for episode 406 - interview with Alexander Josephson, founder of Cumulus and Partisans. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, optimism, visions getting compromised, investing in one's city, urban evolution, and many more.Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in the crisis of architecture? What do you think about equality as reducing suffering? How can we roll out visions without compromises? Trailer for episode 406 - interview with Alexander Josephson, founder of Cumulus and Partisans. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, optimism, visions getting compromised, investing in one's city, urban evolution, and many more.Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

"Boy, what if we, as a society, became as obsessed with healthy places as we did with healthy food."Are you interested in the health of individuals and communities? What do you think about the effect of the environment on us? How can we encourage human behaviour change for better urban futures? Interview with Jeff Siegler, founder of Revitalize, or Die and author of Your City is Sick book. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, individual and community health, how the environment affects us, feelings and technical details, and many more. Jeff Siegler is a community revitalization expert dedicated to "killing apathy" and rebuilding local economies. With a background in urban planning, economics, and district management, Jeff has assisted hundreds of communities in achieving sustainability. He is known for his blunt honesty and passionate approach, believing that to fix a city, you must first revitalize its people. In 2023, Jeff authored Your City is Sick, a guide to diagnosing community shortcomings and fostering civic pride. Based in Pittsburgh, Jeff balances his professional "agitation" of city leaders with raising his two children, committed to the belief that vibrant communities transform lives.Find out more about Jeff through these links:Jeff Siegler on LinkedIn@jeff_siegler as Jeff Siegler on InstagramRevitalize, or Die websiteRevitalize, or Die on YoutubeYour City Is Sick - book by Jeff SieglerConnecting episodes you might be interested in:No.225R - Positioning place-making as a social processNo.392 - Interview with Sebastian Pfautsch about climate smart designNo.396 - Interview with Lior Steinberg about car-free citiesNo.403R - Integrating behavioral science into urban planning: A framework for human-centered spatial designWhat was the most interesting part for you? What questions did arise for you? Let me know on Twitter @WTF4Cities or on the wtf4cities.com website where the shownotes are also available.I hope this was an interesting episode for you and thanks for tuning in.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in the health of individuals and communities? What do you think about the effect of the environment on us? How can we encourage human behaviour change for better urban futures? Trailer for episode 404 - interview with Jeff Siegler, founder of Revitalize, or Die and author of Your City is Sick book. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, individual and community health, how the environment affects us, feelings and technical details, and many more.Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested how behavioural science influences urban design? Debate of the article titled Integrating behavioral science into urban planning: a framework for human-centered spatial design from 2025, by Mohamed M.E. Khogali, Eman Ahmed Mohamed Ali, and Abbas Ramdani, published in the Frontiers in Psychology journal.This is a great preparation to our next interview with Jeff Siegler in episode 404 talking about the need to include behavioural science into urban planning. Since we are investigating the future of cities, I thought it would be interesting to see the connection between behavioural science and urban planning. This article shows that cities informed by behavioural insights foster social cohesion, economic prosperity and environmental sustainability.Find the article through this link.Abstract: This paper examines the intrinsic relationship between urban planning and behavioral concepts, addressing a significant knowledge gap in how spatial arrangements influence human behavior and well-being. Through a systematic literature review and analytical framework, we investigate the interdependence between urban spatial design and human behavioral patterns across seven key planning domains: urban form, built environment, infrastructure services, urban landscapes, public spaces, urban housing fabric, and urban design. Our findings reveal that physical environments significantly shape human psychological, cognitive, and behavioral responses, while human activities simultaneously influence urban structures. The research identifies critical behavioral determinants that impact urban environments and demonstrates how behavioral science can reduce uncertainty in design processes. By integrating insights from environmental psychology and behavioral theory, this study offers a conceptual model to guide urban planners toward more behaviorally responsive design approaches. We conclude that well-planned cities support economically prosperous, socially cohesive, and environmentally sustainable communities, while poorly planned environments can exacerbate social unrest and hinder development. The study recommends institutionalizing participatory design methodologies, prioritizing pedestrian-oriented layouts, equitably distributing green spaces, adopting context-sensitive planning approaches, and implementing rigorous post-implementation behavioral assessments to develop truly human-centered urban environments.Connecting episodes you might be interested in:No.255R - Participation, co-creation, and public spaceNo.365R - The Civic BrandYou can find the transcript through this linkWhat was the most interesting part for you? What questions did arise for you? Let me know on Twitter @WTF4Cities or on the wtf4cities.com website where the shownotes are also availableI hope this was an interesting episode for you and thanks for tuning inEpisode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link)Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in the health of individuals and communities? What do you think about the effect of the environment on us? How can we encourage human behaviour change for better urban futures? Trailer for episode 404 - interview with Jeff Siegler, founder of Revitalize, or Die and author of Your City is Sick book. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, individual and community health, how the environment affects us, feelings and technical details, and many more.Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in the health of individuals and communities? What do you think about the effect of the environment on us? How can we encourage human behaviour change for better urban futures? Trailer for episode 404 - interview with Jeff Siegler, founder of Revitalize, or Die and author of Your City is Sick book. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, individual and community health, how the environment affects us, feelings and technical details, and many more.Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

"Time only exist in the present, there is no such thing as the future. So you need to prepare now."Are you interested in the will to face current challenges? What do you think about being the modern Paul Revere to increase public dialogue? How can we accept and encourage change which happens anyway? Interview with Ben Gilliland, the chairman and founder of Future Proof Property Intelligence. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, public dialogue, alchemy, technology, future proofing, collaboration, and many more. Ben Gilliland is the chairman and founder of Future Proof Property Intelligence, where he spearheaded the spin-out of an advanced AI platform from The Paulele Housing Association (TPHA), a Hawaii-based nonprofit he co-founded with his late wife, Holly. With over 55 years in design, technology, structured finance, and venture capital - including patents in fibre optics and innovative construction remediation - Ben leads a holistic solution to extreme weather risks. The platform delivers precise AI-driven property risk assessments, engineered remediation plans, vetted contractors, DIY options, and tailored financing - empowering homeowners, developers, engineers, insurers, and policymakers to reduce disaster costs proactively. As Ben says: the risks are real - but so are the solutions, so let's fix it, instead of forgetting it!Find out more about Ben through these links:Ben Gilliland on LinkedInFutureProof websiteFutureProof on LinkedIn@FutureProof_PI as FutureProof on Xfutureproofpropertyintel as FutureProof on InstagramFutureProof on NetcapitalConnecting episodes you might be interested:No.280 - Interview with Hudson Worsley about environmental servicesNo.282 - Interview with Keygan Huckleberry about disaster resilienceNo.401R - Adaptation infrastructure and its effects on property values in the face of climate riskWhat was the most interesting part for you? What questions did arise for you? Let me know on Twitter @WTF4Cities or on the wtf4cities.com website where the shownotes are also available.I hope this was an interesting episode for you and thanks for tuning in.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in the will to face current challenges? What do you think about being the modern Paul Revere to increase public dialogue? How can we accept and encourage change which happens anyway? Trailer for episode 402 - interview with Ben Gilliland, the chairman and founder of Future Proof Property Intelligence. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, public dialogue, alchemy, technology, future proofing, collaboration, and many more. Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in how preparing your house to resilience can increase its value? Debate of the article titled Adaptation infrastructure and its effects on property values in the face of climate risk from 2022, by David L. Kelly and Renato Molina, published in the Journal of the Association of Environmental and resource Economists.This is a great preparation to our next interview with Ben Gilliland in episode 402 talking about the opportunities in adapting our houses to climate change. Since we are investigating the future of cities, I thought it would be interesting to see how investments in climate adaptation infrastructure influence real estate prices. This article shows that homebuyers and sellers need to recognise that preparing infrastructure not only increases its value, decreases its premium in insurance, but also successfully alleviate potential environmental threats.Find the article through this link.Abstract: We evaluate the effect of climate adaptation infrastructure investments on property transaction prices, using data on over 400,000 property transactions and 162 infrastructure projects in Miami-Dade County, an area that is highly vulnerable to flooding and sea level rise due to climate change. Exploiting the timing and siting of different adaptation projects in Miami-Dade, we are able to identify significant gains in property values after completion of adaptation infrastructure projects. These gains are concentrated in areas close to the project and for projects that are visually identifiable. Our results suggest an aggregate mean benefit, net of adaptation cost, of about $0.68 million per project and almost $300 million in aggregate net benefits for all projects in our sample. Most projects generated positive net benefits, indicating that the vast majority of adaptation efforts are being placed in areas passing a benefit-cost test.Connecting episodes you might be interested in:No.281R - Misfortunes never come singly. A holistic approach to urban resilience and sustainability challengesNo.282 - Interview with Keygan Huckleberry about disaster resilienceYou can find the transcript through this linkWhat was the most interesting part for you? What questions did arise for you? Let me know on Twitter @WTF4Cities or on the wtf4cities.com website where the shownotes are also availableI hope this was an interesting episode for you and thanks for tuning inEpisode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link)Music by Lesfm from Pixabay

Are you interested in the will to face current challenges? What do you think about being the modern Paul Revere to increase public dialogue? How can we accept and encourage change which happens anyway? Trailer for episode 402 - interview with Ben Gilliland, the chairman and founder of Future Proof Property Intelligence. We will talk about his vision for the future of cities, public dialogue, alchemy, technology, future proofing, collaboration, and many more. Find out more in the episode.Episode generated with Descript assistance (affiliate link).Music by Lesfm from Pixabay