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This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club.http://gotopia.tech/bookclubRead the full transcription of the interview hereMarcin Moskala - Fullstack Kotlin Developer, Founder of Kt. Academy & Author of "Effective Kotlin", et al.Nicola Corti - Staff Android Engineer at Meta, React Native Core Team Member & Open Source LoverRESOURCESMarcinhttps://x.com/marcinmoskalahttps://kt.academyhttps://github.com//marcinmoskalahttps://www.instagram.com/cortinicoNicolahttps://x.com/cortinicohttps://ncorti.comhttps://github.com/cortinicohttps://www.linkedin.com/in/cortinicoLinkshttps://developer.android.com/develop/ui/compose/kotlinhttps://detekt.devhttps://www.abreslav.comhttps://kt.academy/article/ek-compositionhttps://kt.academy/article/books-kotlin-for-developers-readyDESCRIPTIONIn this episode of the "GOTO Book Club", Nicola Corti talks to Marcin Moskala, author of "Effective Kotlin", to unravel the inspiration, evolution, and community impact of his work.Moskala reflects on his decade-long journey with Kotlin, revealing how his book bridges the gap between Java-centric practices and Kotlin's idiomatic potential. The discussion spans essential topics like factory functions, composition over inheritance, and the iterative process behind curating best practices tailored to Kotlin's strengths.Marcin also highlights the "Kotlin for Developers" series and his Give IT Forward initiative, showcasing his commitment to empowering developers and fostering accessible programming education worldwide.RECOMMENDED BOOKSMarcin Moskala • Effective KotlinMarcin Moskala • Kotlin EssentialsMarcin Moskala • Functional KotlinMarcin Moskala • Kotlin CoroutinesMarcin Moskala • Advanced KotlinMarcin Moskala & Igor Wojda • Android Development with KotlinVenkat Subramaniam • Programming KotlinBlueskyTwitterInstagramLinkedInFacebookCHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUSJoin this channel to get early access to videos & other perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/joinLooking for a unique learning experience?Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.techSUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

In episode two of our Out of Programme (OOP) mini-series, we speak to Dr Wenhao Li, an ST6 Hepatology ACL at the Royal London Hospital. Wenhao shares his unforgettable OOP experience - spending a mont in the US on a BSG funded travelling fellowship. He takes us through his time in San Diego at the AASLD Liver Meeting, and the MASLD Research Centre. He also shared insights in to attending the EASL masterclass in Savannah. Keep an eye on your inbox for the weekly BSG newsletter, and get yourself to San Diego! Links: - https://www.bsg.org.uk/news/bsg-san-diego-travelling-fellowship-report Enjoying the podcast? Leave us a review on Apple (apple.co/3vCPuaz) or Spotify (spoti.fi/48y8oho). Get in touch with us at @BSGTrainees on Twitter.

Is it real love—or just your hormones lying to you?On this steamy (and hilarious) episode of PGC After Dark, we're diving into the science behind sex, love, and attachment.Spoiler alert: Your brain might just be playing you.We're breaking down how dopamine, oxytocin, and other chemicals light your body up and trick your heart into thinking “this is the one”—even when it's just… good d*ck energy.

Sensuality isn't just about what happens in the bedroom—it's a way of moving through life with confidence, magnetism, and power. Women who embrace their sensual energy don't just experience better pleasure; they command rooms, attract opportunities, and move with undeniable presence.In this episode of PGC After Dark, we're breaking down how sensuality and self-pleasure can transform self-esteem, career success, and personal growth. We'll also dive into the art of seduction—how to own your natural magnetism, build chemistry effortlessly, and exude confidence in every space you enter. It's time to stop shrinking and start walking in your full feminine power—both in and out of the bedroom.It's grown-folk talk time, baby… and we're turnin' up the volume on the realness. You already know how we do it at PGC After Dark—no filters, no fluff, just vibes, truth, and a whole lotta sass.We want YOUR thoughts, your reactions, and your unfiltered commentary, so don't keep it to yourself… connect with us and join the After Dark conversation:Instagram: @pgcafterdarkFacebook: facebook.com/pgcafterdarkTwitter/X: @pgcafterdarkYouTube: https://youtube.com/c/pgcafterdarkDid something we said make you laugh out loud, raise an eyebrow, or leave you thinking, “Oop, I felt that”? Share this episode with your people, drop us a 5-star review, and let us know what you loved or learned!Leave your review: https://www.facebook.com/thephatgirlchronicles/reviewsAnd don't forget—we're everywhere you love to stream:

First up, Senate Bill 1249 in Congress proposes to change how navigable airspace is defined, and would give the first 200 feet above the ground to states and private property owners.This bill also gives mandatory standoff distances from structures, including 200' laterally and 50 feet over the top of structures. Sadly, this is not a new idea. 5 years, we spent a significant amount of time fighting something similar proposed by the Uniform Law Commission (or ULC) proposed the same before being shut down.This is obviously a terrible idea and is proposed by a US Senator Mike Lee from Utah, who has a history of proposing bills that would severely limit UAS operations.Please reach out to your senators and representatives, as this affects ALL UAS operators, including drones, model airplanes, FPV, and helicopters.Next up this week, some news for recreational flyers who fly at the Academy of Model Aeronautics, or AMA, club sites. The AMA announced they've secured a National Authorization that allows members flying at designated club sites within Class G airspace to operate above the standard 400-foot Above Ground Level, or AGL, limit for routine flying. Depending on the specific site's location and assessment within Class G, the new authorized altitude limit could be up to 700 feet AGL, or even 1,200 feet AGL. Third up, DJI has expanded its enterprise payload lineup with two new accessories aimed at public safety and inspection users. They've launched the Zenmuse S1 Spotlight and the Zenmuse V1 Speaker. The S1 Spotlight is designed for the Matrice 300 RTK and Matrice 350 RTK platforms. It's a high-intensity light source with an effective illumination range of up to 150 meters, or about 492 feet. It features adjustable brightness levels and can synchronize its angle with the gimbal's pitch movements, keeping the light focused where the camera is looking, which is pretty neat. Then there's the Zenmuse V1 Speaker, which is compatible with the Matrice 300 and 350 series drones. This isn't your average Bluetooth speaker; it boasts a maximum volume of 120 decibels and an effective range of about 100 meters, or 328 feet, at a more typical 75 decibels. It supports text-to-speech conversion, audio storage, and real-time playback, making it useful for broadcasting instructions or warnings during emergencies. These kinds of accessories really enhance the utility of these enterprise platforms for first responders and inspection teams.And finally this week, ParaZero, known for their drone safety systems, has launched the SafeAir M4 parachute recovery system, specifically designed for the DJI Matrice 4 series drones. ParaZero's Press release says the SafeAir M4 meets the requirements of the ASTM F3322-22 standard for parachutes used in Operations Over People, or OOP. https://dronexl.co/2025/04/16/dji-launches-zenmuse-s1-spotlight-and-zenmuse-v1-speaker-for-enterprise-drones/https://dronexl.co/2025/04/15/parazero-launches-safeair-m4-drone-parachute-system/https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/1249/text/is?format=txt&overview=closedhttps://amablog.modelaircraft.org/amagov/2025/04/15/flying-sites-in-class-g-airspace-granted-higher-altitudes/?_gl=1*1uaan0o*_gcl_au*NzU5NzI5MTc0LjE3NDQ5MDM2MzA.&_ga=2.207238160.221137029.1744903630-1851979334.1744903630

We're kicking off our new mini-series exploring Out of Programme (OOP) opportunities. In this first episode we speak with Lucy Gorard, a gastroenterology registrar based in the KSS region, who has taken a year out of programme to undertake a nutrition fellowship. Lucy shares valuable insights into her experience — including motivations for applying, skills she's developed and challenges she's encountered along the way. Whether you're considering an OOP experience yourself or simply curious to learn more, this is an episode not to be missed. Links: - https://www.gmc-uk.org/education/standards-guidance-and-curricula/guidance/out-of-programme#:~:text=When%20a%20doctor%20in%20training,your%20royal%20college%20or%20faculty - https://www.thefederation.uk/training/training-certification/going-out-programme Enjoying the podcast? Leave us a review on Apple (apple.co/3vCPuaz) or Spotify (spoti.fi/48y8oho). Get in touch with us at @BSGTrainees on Twitter.

This episode of Remote Ruby starts with Andrew and Chris discussing how busy they are this month and how they're managing new feature releases, travel, and bulk recording episodes. They continue answering listener questions from Episode 300, covering key improvements they wish to see in Rails, best practices for hybrid remote work, and methods to inspire teams about Object-Oriented Programming (OOP) and Test-Driven Development (TDD). They share advice on attending Ruby conferences, including how to justify the cost to employers and the immense networking benefits. Lastly, they tackle how freshers can secure remote Ruby jobs and provide tips on writing blog posts to enhance learning and visibility in the developer community. Hit the download button now! LinksJudoscale- Remote Ruby listener gift99 Bottle of OOP by Sandi MetzPractical Object-Oriented Design (POODR) by Sandi Metzconventional: commentsPodiaRemote Ruby Podcast-Episode 293: Jason's Farewell-So Long, and Thanks for All the BETs!HatchboxKamalMCP.RBJosh Branchaud's TIL (Today I Learned) repo Chris Oliver X/Twitter Andrew Mason X/Twitter Jason Charnes X/Twitter

Joël talks with fellow thoughtboter Fritz Meissner about the thinking process behind his latest kata project and the vast world of coding problems. Fritz explains why he developed the noisy animals kata and how it helped to better understand and streamline his code, the best ways to break down conditionals and how to clean them up efficiently within your workflow, as well as knowing where the limits of improvement are in each project you work on. — Refine your conditional logic technique with a copy of 99 Bottles of OOP (https://sandimetz.com/99bottles) and then test your skills with Fritz's Noisy Animals Kata (https://github.com/thoughtbot/noisy-animals-kata). Compare notes with Joël (https://github.com/JoelQ/noisy-animals-kata) and Fritz (https://github.com/thoughtbot/noisy-animals-kata/blob/fm-refactored-v3/noisy_animal.rb) to see how you stack up once you're done! Listen to Joël's RailsConf talk The Math Every Programmer Needs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzYYT40T8G8) or check out some previous episodes for a refresher on some of the logic and math topics discussed in this show - Ep 398 (https://bikeshed.thoughtbot.com/398) - Ep 353 (https://bikeshed.thoughtbot.com/353) - Ep 418 (https://bikeshed.thoughtbot.com/418) - Ep 428 (https://bikeshed.thoughtbot.com/428) If you'd like to contact Fritz about his Kata or anything else programming related he can be found via LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/fritz-meissner-057a4a6/) Your host for this episode has been thoughtbot's own Joël Quenneville (https://www.linkedin.com/in/joel-quenneville-96b18b58/). If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page (https://github.com/sponsors/thoughtbot), or check out our website (https://bikeshed.thoughtbot.com). Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: hosts@bikeshed.fm This has been a thoughtbot (https://thoughtbot.com/) podcast. Stay up to date by following us on social media - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@thoughtbot/streams) - LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/150727/) - Mastodon (https://thoughtbot.social/@thoughtbot) - Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbot/) © 2025 thoughtbot, inc.

A common dilemma that plagues many of us on our journey to getting good with money is this: we finally save up some money, feel our first sense of financial confidence, finally start to feel things clicking into place... and then suddenly feel immense guilt and ickiness when it comes to spending money on things, even if we've saved up for them! This feeling is complete and utter proof of how money is NOT rational. In a purely mathematical sense, having money saved up for something is endlessly easier than living in a state of financial chaos. AND YET, so many of us save up for something for the first time ever, and when the time comes to spend that money, OOP, we feel horrible. Not cool, brain, not cool. In this episode I unpack this dilemma and explore ways to move through it and come out the other side financially confident and empowered. Highlights: How our natural loss aversion comes into play The emotional tension between spending and saving Letting go of binary thinking in all areas of our finances Why a good relationship with money ALWAYS needs nuance Gradually desensitising yourself from the ickiness Ways to organise our money so we're just the right amount of connected, and disconnected, with our finances. Order my book, Good with Money: Australia: https://amzn.to/4eLOi5x UK: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Good-Money-Reprogramme-Spending-Control/dp/1399822446/ref=asc_df_1399822446?mcid=8cfd172ad9473176be1ff7bdcdfd9f24&th=1&psc=1&hvocijid=8186753501660029287-1399822446-&hvexpln=74&tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=696285193871&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8186753501660029287&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9220538&hvtargid=pla-2281435176378&psc=1&gad_source=1 Where to find The Broke Generation Website: https://thebrokegeneration.com/Instagram: https://instagram.com/the.brokegenerationTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@the.brokegeneration Sign up to The Glue: the weekly money psychology and mindset newsletter www.thebrokegeneration.com/subscribe, where you’ll also get your free Financial Values workbook.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We've UPGRADED!! On the Bright Side is officially studio signed, which means video!! WOOHOO!! In honor of episode 50, Kiki joins me on the pod to talk about anxiety, who gives “ safe” and my anxious version of a love life??? Basically Stephen from DWTS is safe and John Summit is not safe. Trust…it'll make more sense once you listen.  As two anxious best friends, we GET IT! We are the ones hyperventilating before a vacation, who hate change, and no one should ever have to feel like they are alone dealing with that. I mean this too. When either of us answer one another's FaceTime it's literally a roulette game…we're either picking up to the other person hysterically laughing…or crying ( girls that can do both>>>). AND of course with anxiety, comes people who get it, and the ones that don't ( or they just lack empathy??) which in our book deems them safe or unsafe. Well, luckily for my anxious girlies out there, this is a SAFE place, full of laughs, relatability, and two girls who are objectively hilarious( I said what I said). OH and get ready to laugh extra because I of course share things I probably shouldn't, like my love life and it's recent collab with anxiety OOP! Happy Listening! Love you all and THANK YOU! I Wouldn't be able to do this without you all XX

Nathan Jones chatted with us about his proposal for a computer architecture book based on a 4-bit computer.  Nathan found the 4-bit computer in the Hackaday SuperCon 2022 badge and was amazed by some of the ideas that folks implemented (see SuperCon Badge Hacking Awards Ceremony). Nathan spoke at Hackaday SuperCon 2023 on the processor architecture, highlighting some of his ideas for a book. If you'd like to try your hand at the badge, find it on Nathan's Voja4 Tindie page.  Nathan also spoke recently at the Embedded Online Conference (Building a Simple CLI, OOP in C, and The Power of a Look-up Table) and the Teardown Conference (Making Your Own MCU Boards and Building a Simple CLI). If you have an idea you'd like to propose, check out O'Reilly's proposal for a book or class. While you may not go with them, the proposal is a good place to get all of your ideas down. We mentioned a few other computer architecture books as competitors for Nathan's proposed book: Computer Architecture: A Quantitative Approach by John L. Hennessy and David A. Patterson  Introduction to Computing Systems: From bits & gates to C & beyond by Yale N. Patt and Sanjay J. Patel The Elements of Computing Systems, by Noam Nisan and Shimon Schocken (MIT Press) with supporting material and simulator on nand2tetris. Nathan also did a survey of the Embedded Slack community. You can gain access by becoming a Patreon or Kofi supporter. Transcript

For the final episode of Hot Girls Code season 3, we chat about some of the iconic women in tech throughout history who have been trailblazers and had a huge impact in the world of tech. From writing the code that sent humans to space, through to creating innovations in AI, women have been there every step of the way. Join us in this episode as we celebrate the accomplishments of these tech girly icons! Hot Girls Code will be back in February 2025! Episode Links To hear more about compilers, check out Episode 32. Are IDEs the Makeup Bags of the Coding World? To learn about OOP, check out Episode 34. What is Object-Oriented Programming? Where to Find Us: ⁠ Instagram Tik Tok The Hot Girls Code Website⁠ Sponsored by: Trade Me Jobs

This week Will, Ian & Nora must survive- Oop, right off the bat, Nora doesn't make it. She's got a thing, it isn't pretty, think.... opposite of Ice-T's physical ailment at the beginning of the film, but Will and Ian, they must use what minimal skills they have to do their best at- SURVIVING THE GAME (1994) (R ) 96 minutes Directed by: Ernest R. Dickerson. Starring: Ice-T, Rutger Hauer, Charles S. Dutton, Gary Busey, F. Murray Abraham, John C. McGinley, William McNamara and a few Other Talented People! 00:30- No Nora this week

How a little paint program became a worldwide phenomenon. Original text by Craig Hickman. Craig talks about his 8-bit Atari projects on episode 378 of the ANTIC Podcast. Apple honoured Craig in their already-zapped-from-history Macintosh 30th Anniversary website. John Sculley demonstrating Kid Pix on stage in 1991. John loves talking about “objects” the way Apple loves talking about “machine learning”. In Love Notes to Newton, Sculley claims the Newton project spurred ARM's support for “floating point and objects”. Okay, John. OOP is a software abstraction, and no MessagePad ever shipped with a hardware FPU–not even the StrongARM in the MessagePad 2000. More about ARM's relationship with hardware floating point units. Macintosh Garden has copies of Fido, Camera, and Hickman's 2005 art project Beautiful Dorena. Let Craig lead you on a guided tour through Beautiful Dorena.

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On today's episode, I sit down with Eric Normand to discuss how to select good customers, the importance of sales and marketing to a freelancer, the importance of imagination, industry, and optimism, the purpose of consulting, how I structure my consulting services, other ideas for consulting structures, domain modeling, tech debt vs dull knives as a metaphor, how product design influences domain modeling, how having a theory of your product impacts domain modeling, the abundance of bad advice for new consultants, and the pros and cons of masterminds.Eric Normand.meEric Normand's NewsletterEric Normand's Clojure GuidesEric Normand's Clojure Video CoursesThe Eric Normand PodcastMillion Dollar Consulting by Alan Weiss99 Bottles of OOP by Sandi MetzEric Normand on LinkedInEric Normand on Twitter

Codey and Jonnie talk about the games that should have farming. Timings 00:00:00: Theme Tune 00:00:30: Intro 00:01:25: Feedback 00:09:04: What Has Codey Been Up To 00:18:53: News 00:41:00: What Games Should Have Farming 01:08:35: Entomology Rant 01:12:51: Outro Links Fae Farm on Consoled My Time at Sandrock Kickstarter Lightyear Frontier “Neighbours and Animals” Update Stardew Valley 1.6 on Mobile/Consoles Paleo Pines Upcoming DLC Tales of the Shire Video Contact Al on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheScotBot Al on Mastodon: https://mastodon.scot/@TheScotBot Email Us: https://harvestseason.club/contact/ Transcript (0:00:30) Codey: Hello farmers and welcome to another episode of the harvest season. My name is Cody (0:00:36) Jonnie: My name is Johnny. (0:00:37) Codey: And we are here today to talk about cottagecore games (0:00:42) Jonnie: Whoooo! (0:00:45) Codey: Okay, I’m not gonna ask Johnny how he’s doing cuz we’re that’ll just get us right into the issue so the issue at hand (0:00:54) Codey: So I’m going to first mention today’s topic is what game what games we think shouldn’t (0:01:00) Codey: Include farming. So these are games that do not have like big farming components or there (0:01:06) Codey: It’s like a series that has not had a farming game (0:01:10) Codey: Specifically that we think are like ripe for the plucking (0:01:15) Codey: So that’s what we’re gonna talk about we also have a bunch of game news (0:01:19) Codey: And then we’re I’m gonna talk about what I’ve been up to but Johnny does not want to talk about what he’s been up (0:01:26) Codey: To he has something else to talk about (0:01:28) Jonnie: Well, that’s because I haven’t had time to play games because I’ve been raging about last week’s episode (0:01:35) Jonnie: uh where Kev and Al made a (0:01:39) Jonnie: Tier list and I’m hoping you can hear the finger quotes that I was making when I said that they made a tier list (0:01:41) Codey: Uh-huh. (0:01:43) Codey: I did. (0:01:46) Codey: I did hear those finger calling. (0:01:46) Jonnie: because (0:01:48) Jonnie: I’m sorry guys. But what was that? That was a terrible tier list first of all. Okay. I am a tier list purist (0:01:56) Jonnie: I feel like so many tearless now, they just… (0:01:58) Jonnie: …people undermine the purpose of having an S-Tear. (0:02:02) Jonnie: S-Tear is meant to be for the elite. (0:02:05) Jonnie: You cannot have 20 characters in S-Tear. (0:02:05) Codey: Yeah. (0:02:09) Jonnie: Which I don’t know how many they put in, but it was a lot. (0:02:12) Jonnie: There were too many S-Tear characters. (0:02:12) Codey: Yeah. (0:02:14) Jonnie: Are you a purist when it comes to tearless Cody like me? (0:02:17) Codey: I, yeah, I think that like, so from listening to the episode I didn’t have any strong feelings but I did feel like there were some people that they put in the S tier that I felt like they were more, they felt more strongly about and like that’s the situation where like, that’s like, those should be the people (0:02:35) Codey: in their own tier, or like in a tier above S tier or something or like bump everyone else down to A I’m not entirely sure how they want to work on that but as it stands like it was just kind of, I mean, I didn’t necessarily disagree with where they put a lot (0:02:51) Codey: of people, but I agreed with some of the sentiment talked about in the slack. So what what were those sentiments. (0:02:58) Jonnie: And so, like, so first of all, too many in S-Tear. Agree with you, Coda. You bump everyone down. (0:03:05) Jonnie: Also, no F-Tear. Like, Stardew Valley has F-Tear characters. It’s very clear. (0:03:05) Codey: Correct. (0:03:07) Codey: Yeah. (0:03:12) Jonnie: A tier list is not about being nice and making friends. (0:03:15) Jonnie: A, these are digital characters. Who cares? (0:03:17) Jonnie: And B, who’s saying that Demetrius, Pan, and, uh, (0:03:22) Jonnie: Mayor Lewis are not F-Tear. They’re my personal F-Tear characters. Uh, like, they are F-Tear. (0:03:28) Jonnie: No D. Add an F-Tear. (0:03:29) Codey: Okay. (0:03:31) Jonnie: Oh. (0:03:32) Codey: Yeah. (0:03:33) Codey: Well, and I feel like they would have, the boys, (0:03:35) Codey: I mean, Kevin and Al are probably like, (0:03:38) Codey: they think Clint is F-tier. (0:03:40) Codey: Like I was shocked that they didn’t use F-tier for that. (0:03:44) Jonnie: Oh, so Clint is below F tier. Clint is in Clint tier. (0:03:48) Jonnie: I have done my own tier list, which I have put into the Slack, so if you are interested (0:03:53) Jonnie: in seeing a real tier list, patreon.com/dhspart. (0:03:54) Codey: Yeah. (0:03:59) Jonnie: I don’t know, maybe Al can link my tier list in the show notes for this one, because I (0:04:03) Jonnie: feel like it’s a much better tier list. It’s soon to be officially endorsed by the show. (0:04:08) Codey: Yeah. (0:04:09) Jonnie: It’s just objectively, objectively better. (0:04:12) Jonnie: But I even feel like some of the (0:04:14) Jonnie: choices of who they put into S-Tear is just like confusing. (0:04:19) Jonnie: So my personal S-Tear, just to be clear, is Hayley, Linus, and Willy. (0:04:25) Jonnie: Right? (0:04:25) Jonnie: For me, they’re the three characters with the most story that, not that I relate to, (0:04:32) Jonnie: that’s the wrong word, but that I feel some attachment to the story, right? (0:04:36) Jonnie: And each person, I’m sure, would have different characters that they would put in there. (0:04:40) Jonnie: I’m sure everyone would probably have Linus. (0:04:44) Jonnie: Who’s, when I’m saying like, “What do I like about the characters in the game?” (0:04:49) Jonnie: Like, those are the stories that I’m most going to refer to. (0:04:52) Jonnie: And like, that’s independent, right? (0:04:54) Jonnie: Like, the character I probably romance, or have romance the most across the game is Leah. (0:04:59) Jonnie: But Leah is like a solid B-Tear character, you know? (0:04:59) Codey: Yeah, I was going to say. (0:05:02) Codey: Wow. (0:05:03) Jonnie: She’s fine, but boring, so she’s a B-Tear character. (0:05:05) Codey: Yeah. (0:05:07) Codey: I guess like that was the other thing is that they were going off of like how they thought the characters were. (0:05:13) Codey: It was unclear to me how the grading was because they were like, no, no, like not how we feel that they are as a character that has been created but who they are as people. (0:05:25) Codey: and that’s like kind of difficult to judge because (0:05:29) Codey: you’re getting like the one-sided situation from a lot of these people (0:05:33) Codey: like I don’t know clint’s backstory I don’t know I don’t know who hurt him you know (0:05:38) Jonnie: Clint hurt Clint. It’s all his own fault. (0:05:43) Codey: oh no (0:05:44) Jonnie: And that’s why he gets Clinted. That’s why he gets Clinted here. (0:05:47) Jonnie: Um… (0:05:49) Jonnie: Uh… (0:05:50) Jonnie: Do I have anything else to say about the… (0:05:52) Jonnie: Oh, look, I feel like the other thing that really stood out to me on the tier list is (0:05:58) Jonnie: there’s like a little snip that I took of S-tier (0:06:00) Jonnie: that has Jodie, Leah, Robin, and Penny all together. (0:06:00) Codey: Yeah. (0:06:06) Jonnie: I just, I don’t want to know, you know, if there’s- (0:06:08) Jonnie: there’s maybe a sort of similar visual style between those four characters. (0:06:12) Jonnie: Um, I’m just gonna let that one- (0:06:12) Codey: Uh-huh, perhaps perhaps all with a certain hair color perhaps (0:06:20) Jonnie: Right? Right? (0:06:25) Codey: Yeah, I I didn’t even think about that until you showed me you showed me the picture and I was like, oh no (0:06:27) Jonnie: But to be honest, right. (0:06:35) Jonnie: And it’s just funny because the way they put it in the t- (0:06:35) Codey: They’re all (0:06:38) Jonnie: list that they were just all together with Linus sort of hanging out in the middle and I was like, “Yeah, it’s just Linus and his lady, sir.” (0:06:42) Codey: Yeah! (0:06:44) Jonnie: Just hanging out. (0:06:46) Codey: Linus and his four redheads, yeah. (0:06:48) Jonnie: Yup. (0:06:50) Jonnie: But to be honest, this is why I like tier lists, right? (0:06:54) Jonnie: Like one, people have different approaches. (0:06:56) Jonnie: And I think people do tend towards being too nice. (0:06:58) Jonnie: And it’s like, we’re just going to, you know, push things up above where they need to be, which I would like to see people move away from. (0:07:04) Jonnie: away from, but it generates (0:07:08) Jonnie: good discussion right because it’s it’s one of those things where it’s like (0:07:11) Jonnie: actually the act of going through that it’s kind of or through creating my (0:07:15) Jonnie: own tier list it’s thinking about like what what is it that I like about (0:07:18) Jonnie: characters in games and I think when I look at my (0:07:23) Jonnie: s tier the thing that I it’s like I like characters that (0:07:26) Jonnie: uh go on journeys and have probably relatable but not wholly positive (0:07:32) Jonnie: stories right like um all three of the characters i (0:07:38) Jonnie: have like uh challenges or or negative aspects (0:07:42) Jonnie: but but overall their stories are a positive ones (0:07:45) Jonnie: um or or about kind of like I guess different perspectives (0:07:49) Jonnie: um on things so anyway that was that was the thing I learned about myself (0:07:53) Jonnie: from uh from doing the tier list um I also just put all of the the minor (0:07:57) Jonnie: characters and dekes i’m like how do you rate the bouncer which you know (0:08:00) Jonnie: kev was keeps keeps him to have a real love for the bouncer (0:08:02) Codey: Yeah, yeah, Kev was like S tier immediately and I was like this bro has two lines my guy (0:08:06) Jonnie: - Oh. (0:08:10) Jonnie: laughing Right? (0:08:12) Codey: Or like the dwarf like all of these people that like you don’t really see that much of (0:08:18) Codey: And I don’t have enough information to make an educated guess (0:08:21) Codey: I think it would be so another thing is that I haven’t really personally gotten into a lot of the like (0:08:27) Codey: Backstory of a lot of the characters in Stardew Valley, but I have been doing that for Coral Island (0:08:32) Codey: I’d love to make an S a list for Coral Island. I would get heated about that for sure (0:08:38) Jonnie: I feel like that sounds like a great idea for an episode, and I know immediately that we would disagree on some characters. (0:08:42) Codey: Yeah (0:08:46) Codey: HAHAHA! (0:08:46) Jonnie: Because if I remember rightly, you are a fan of Scott, and I think he is like the driest possible character in that entire game. (0:08:55) Codey: I am very close to marrying Scott right now. (0:09:03) Jonnie: Ahh… (0:09:03) Codey: So I was, so I guess we’ll move forward (0:09:08) Codey: into what I have been up to. (0:09:10) Codey: On top of tearing my calf muscle, (0:09:14) Codey: I have also, that has given rise (0:09:16) Codey: to a lot of time of sitting down, (0:09:19) Codey: which means I can play games, which is great. (0:09:24) Codey: I’ve been playing Disney Dreamlight Valley still, (0:09:26) Codey: trying to get like 100% on a lot of the achievements. (0:09:29) Codey: Right now I’m trying to finish off the critters. (0:09:31) Codey: I only have two more critters. (0:09:33) Codey: And I actually, it’s a big tip (0:09:35) Codey: for people who are playing Stardew Valley (0:09:37) Codey: and who are looking for certain critters. (0:09:39) Codey: You, each critter like comes out at a specific day (0:09:44) Codey: at a specific time. (0:09:45) Codey: So like the two things that I want, (0:09:47) Codey: which I think are like the pink crocodile (0:09:49) Codey: and the red fox are both on Saturdays. (0:09:54) Codey: I usually don’t play on Saturdays. (0:09:57) Codey: So that’s why I don’t have them yet. (0:09:59) Codey: But they both come out on Saturday (0:10:01) Codey: and they come out at different times (0:10:02) Codey: and they have different, (0:10:03) Codey: like all the critters have different requirements. (0:10:05) Codey: Like the crocodiles want a certain, (0:10:07) Codey: like lobster is their favorite (0:10:08) Codey: and the foxes want sturgeon or whatever it is. (0:10:13) Codey: And so I finally just looked all of that up (0:10:15) Codey: because I had realized that they were only there (0:10:19) Codey: at certain times. (0:10:20) Codey: And so I was like, okay. (0:10:21) Codey: And when you go into the game, (0:10:24) Codey: you can look at the critter page (0:10:25) Codey: and it’ll be like, not here today. (0:10:27) Codey: Like this one’s not here today. (0:10:30) Codey: But I was like going online (0:10:32) Codey: and I was just never seeing them around. (0:10:34) Codey: And so I finally was just like, screw it. (0:10:36) Codey: I’m Googling it. (0:10:37) Codey: And I found out it’s Saturday. (0:10:38) Codey: So tomorrow is going to be lit for me. (0:10:41) Codey: I’m hoping to get both solidified. (0:10:43) Codey: That’d be awesome. (0:10:45) Jonnie: Can I ask, when you say you’re 100%ing all of the achievements, is that including the like, you know, harvest 10,000 blueberry achievements, like all of those things? (0:10:56) Codey: I already have that I already have those the one that I it is the one that I don’t have (0:10:58) Jonnie: Oh my god. (0:11:00) Jonnie: Cody? (0:11:02) Jonnie: It’s a lot! (0:11:05) Codey: right now that’s really frustrating is like water 7000 plant crops because I have water (0:11:12) Codey: like so I would plant for a long time I was planting when it was raining so it’s super (0:11:17) Codey: simple and you can just literally plant like wheat and then harvest like by the time you’re (0:11:22) Codey: done planting like a little like eight by eight square. (0:11:26) Codey: it’s already like ready on the other side so then you just go back to harvesting and then you just (0:11:30) Codey: go plant again. um but one of them is to water 7000 plants and so now i’m having to plant all (0:11:38) Codey: this stuff that I don’t care about uh just so that I can but it’s fine because there’s another (0:11:43) Codey: achievement where you’re supposed to buy seeds buy like 600 seeds or something from each of the (0:11:50) Codey: biomes and I think I still need to buy like another 300 seeds from the Glade of Trust so (0:11:54) Codey: I need to buy seats anyway. (0:11:56) Codey: It’s fine, I almost have all of this stuff for the gosh, what was the Tiana DLC called? (0:12:05) Codey: I don’t remember, but it’s the one that like brought in Tiana and a bunch of her furniture (0:12:12) Codey: and wardrobe stuff. (0:12:14) Codey: I’ve almost completed that star path and have everything that you get from that. (0:12:20) Codey: I think it still has a couple days, so I’m going to hope that that’s true because then (0:12:24) Codey: And I think that they’re gonna start like a spooky– (0:12:26) Codey: Halloween path–star path. (0:12:28) Jonnie: Do you get anything for completing all of the achievements other than, like, there was (0:12:34) Codey: No. It’s that currency. Yeah, you get like the dreamlight. I have like almost 100,000 dreamlight. (0:12:43) Codey: You which you use dreamlight to either to like unlock new realm. So like when they open whatever (0:12:50) Codey: the next realm is, let’s say it’s hocus pocus. If they unlock the hocus pocus realm, and then you (0:12:56) Codey: have to go to the castle and like open the door, the gateway to that realm, that’s like where you (0:13:01) Codey: use the dreamlight. (0:13:04) Codey: and usually the doors only need like 10,000 and I have almost 100,000. (0:13:09) Codey: yeet. (0:13:10) Jonnie: One last question because I feel like you and I are sort of the DTV correspondence on the show and I haven’t played since, you know, you and I, I think last talked about it, and that was, you know, when the story finished and I hit credits on the game, how do you feel the game is going in terms of, like, is it kind of just adding new stuff and mini stories and it’s kind of just like, if you’re into it, it’s good or like, is the game expanding beyond that? (0:13:14) Codey: yeah. (0:13:17) Codey: oh yeah. (0:13:21) Codey: mm-hmm. (0:13:21) Codey: yeah. (0:13:40) Jonnie: Or is it that you need to play it, you know, with the style paths as they’re coming out? Like, what’s, what’s your current take on state of the game for maybe someone that dabbled in it a little bit when it was an early access or something like that? Where are you at? (0:13:47) Codey: Yeah, so I would say the star paths are important if you’re interested in collecting all of (0:13:59) Codey: the like outfits and furniture things. (0:14:04) Codey: I thought that the dapper delights I think is actually what it’s called star path that (0:14:09) Codey: has a lot of Tiana stuff. (0:14:11) Codey: I really liked all a lot of the stuff that was in that star path so and also just from (0:14:16) Codey: playing consistently. (0:14:17) Codey: have a ton of moonlight, or moonstone, or whatever the heck it’s called. (0:14:21) Codey: So, you know, paying 2,500 moonstone to, which I’ve never had to pay real money. (0:14:28) Codey: I always just get it for free by playing the game. (0:14:32) Codey: Paying 2,500 moonstone to get access to the full star path was a no brainer for me. (0:14:38) Codey: But that’s really what the star paths are good for, is just the furniture, the wardrobes, (0:14:46) Codey: that kind of thing. (0:14:47) Codey: And so if you’re really not into that, the star paths are not necessary. (0:14:53) Codey: Every time they release a star path, they kind of have been releasing a new character (0:14:58) Codey: along with it. (0:14:59) Codey: But you don’t have to do the star path, you can just come and be like “I wanna meet Tiana,” (0:15:03) Codey: or “I wanna meet Mulan,” or whatever. (0:15:05) Codey: But also I don’t think that that content goes away. (0:15:07) Codey: I don’t think that if you miss when Mulan shows up, that you’re not gonna get to ever (0:15:13) Codey: meet Mulan. (0:15:14) Codey: It’s just that you’re probably not going to get immediate access to the site. (0:15:17) Codey: I’m assuming that they’ll become available like through the store, but that’s, um, like through, uh, Scrooge’s store, but you can’t pick what shows up there. (0:15:29) Codey: It just kind of like randomly goes through a bunch of stuff. (0:15:33) Codey: So if you’re wanting something specific, you kind of just have to like, um, and then the achievements, I mean, there’s no purpose. (0:15:40) Codey: I did this with World of Warcraft too. (0:15:42) Codey: Um, I just went and like pet all of the critters and did all of the silly stuff. (0:15:47) Codey: Just because it, seeing little achievements like being done just makes my dopamine skyrocket. (0:15:55) Codey: So that’s, that’s, that it’s not necessary at all. (0:16:00) Codey: So if it’s, if you’re like, not really sure, or if you’re not really tied to any of these characters, (0:16:04) Codey: or if you don’t super care, like I would just wait for a big content update or something. (0:16:09) Codey: Um, I’m assuming eventually this like rift in time thing will just become free to play and you won’t have to like, (0:16:16) Codey: to like because it’s a paid deal. (0:16:17) Codey: You’ll see currently, but, um, and it has like, it adds a whole nother dimension (0:16:22) Codey: cause it adds a whole extra tool. (0:16:26) Codey: Um, which I think messes with time, but I have not even, since I don’t have that, (0:16:32) Codey: I haven’t even unlocked any of that stuff yet. (0:16:34) Codey: And I think it also adds multiple characters that I again, don’t have access (0:16:39) Codey: to, but I’m not really that worried about it. (0:16:41) Jonnie: nice it’s good to hear like it feels like they’re developing that game in a really positive way (0:16:41) Codey: So yeah. (0:16:43) Codey: Yeah. (0:16:47) Jonnie: but also a way that kind of you know ultimately these games are you know need to make money so (0:16:53) Jonnie: it sounds like they’re striking that balance in a in a healthy way which not many games do these days (0:16:56) Codey: Yeah (0:16:58) Codey: Yeah, I definitely agree. I think the other thing (0:17:04) Codey: So the other thing I’ve been playing is coral island and last time al and I talked about coral island we were talking about 1.1 (0:17:11) Codey: And I we talked about like the different things that 1.1 brought and how we didn’t get to any of them (0:17:18) Codey: so I finally got to give the mer people what they (0:17:25) Codey: which was like five osmium (0:17:26) Codey: crops and five osmium essences and then once you give that to them it basically (0:17:32) Codey: like allows you to get a tail and and then the moving around in the underwater (0:17:38) Codey: area is so fast so that’s great after that they then ask for you to bring them (0:17:47) Codey: 75 osmium crops and 30 osmium essences and that’s where I’m currently stuck (0:17:54) Codey: because I like can’t go into a (0:17:56) Codey: bunch of the buildings because they’re like you’re not allowed in here and (0:17:59) Codey: stuff like that like just getting a tail doesn’t mean that they all (0:18:01) Codey: automatically accept you but that also means that I need to like harvest 75 (0:18:07) Codey: osmium crops I finally have improved a lot of my stuff to be able to do that (0:18:12) Codey: but whatever I’m in my second year now and I almost have most of the lake shrine (0:18:19) Codey: like temple like finished but I’m not entirely sure like how much I can really (0:18:25) Codey: do without. (0:18:26) Codey: Like getting the very specific fish that you can only get in the first seven days of fall. (0:18:33) Codey: That kind of stuff, but I’m really enjoying coral island right now. Like I that’s that has (0:18:37) Codey: my full attention really except for tomorrow when it’s going to be Disney dream my about. (0:18:43) Jonnie: Yeah, I’ve been thinking about maybe jumping back into Coral Island now at one point. (0:18:48) Codey: Yeah, so yeah, that’s what we’ve been up to. (0:18:54) Codey: So we’re going to jump into game news here. The first thing on our list that Al has procured for (0:18:59) Codey: us is Fey Farm, which is coming to PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, Xbox One, Xbox Series X/S, (0:19:10) Codey: and the Windows Store. So I guess that’s it’s only been on Switch and Steam, yeah? Question mark. (0:19:18) Jonnie: Sure, why not? (0:19:19) Codey: Okay. It does say… okay, I should just read more. That’s gonna happen on the 22nd of October, (0:19:31) Codey: and on the Twitter post that they posted a quote, “The new versions will include all content up to (0:19:37) Codey: date and full cross-play with the existing PC and Nintendo Switch edition.” So yeah, currently it’s (0:19:43) Codey: on PC and Nintendo Switch, and you’ll be able to cross-play with everything. (0:19:49) Codey: So if you’re wanting it, if you’ve been like, “Oh man, I’ve been waiting for it (0:19:53) Codey: on PlayStation or Xbox, like here’s your time.” Did you play Fey Farm? I can’t remember. I think (0:19:58) Codey: you were mad at it, right? (0:19:58) Jonnie: Yeah, well I like how Fae Farm plays as a game. There’s lots of good quality of life stuff that (0:20:06) Jonnie: they do. The movement is very fun. Unfortunately, the quest story world… it wasn’t there for me. (0:20:15) Jonnie: And you know, it was so far away that I didn’t really have any desire to go back. I know they’ve (0:20:20) Jonnie: done a number of updates on it. So I think if you’re someone who more… you’re just like, (0:20:26) Jonnie: I like farming, I like doing that sort of stuff. (0:20:29) Jonnie: I think this is a very good game for that. (0:20:32) Jonnie: If, like me, you prefer more of a story narrative to your games, this is not one too satisfying. (0:20:40) Codey: Well, maybe that’s something maybe that’s next after console not what (0:20:46) Jonnie: Well, they did some work on it, but it was just that the characters were so bland that (0:20:53) Codey: Oh, I remember this, mm-hmm. (0:20:54) Jonnie: it just felt like it was, yeah, it was just so far away that I know that I’ve done some (0:20:58) Jonnie: work on it, but it’s like some work on it would maybe get it to a point where it’s (0:21:02) Jonnie: acceptable. (0:21:03) Jonnie: It felt, to me, it felt like it needed a huge overhaul and there was a lot of, like, some (0:21:08) Jonnie: of the major quests in the game, it would kind of, you would get to an important point (0:21:12) Jonnie: and it would be like, “And you went and did the thing!” and then you wake up the next (0:21:16) Jonnie: “Oh, okay, I would kind of like to see me doing the thing, that would be, that would be cool!” (0:21:22) Codey: Would have been cool, I don’t know, maybe. (0:21:26) Codey: Okay, well maybe that’ll come later. (0:21:30) Codey: Next on our list is My Time at Evershine, (0:21:34) Codey: which I did not remember this game, (0:21:37) Codey: so my brain thought that this was Ranch of River Shine, (0:21:42) Codey: which I think was the horse game. (0:21:45) Codey: This is not that. (0:21:46) Codey: Next, my time game, so my time at Portia, my time at Sandrock, this is the third installment of that. (0:21:52) Codey: So the Kickstarter is now live and there is a new fancy trailer. (0:21:58) Codey: The Kickstarter goal was $200,000 and that goal was hit in 35 minutes. (0:22:06) Codey: They then unlocked $500,000 in 3 hours, $800,000 in 11 hours, (0:22:14) Codey: And then, uh, 20– (0:22:16) Codey: 26 hours was when they reached a million, and at the time–let me see if it’s changed drastically since I looked. (0:22:24) Codey: Uh, yep, it’s–it did. It went up 30 more thousand dollars. (0:22:28) Codey: Um, it is at almost 1.3 million dollars right now. Wild. (0:22:32) Codey: And it still has quite a way to go. (0:22:33) Jonnie: Yeah (0:22:36) Jonnie: It’s it’s pretty nuts, but this is one of those things that I feel like is (0:22:42) Jonnie: Just generally good right like I think in general around here (0:22:47) Jonnie: we’re not huge fans of these games, but they clearly have their fans and (0:22:53) Jonnie: They obviously my time at Sandrock landed because my time at ever shine got funded so well and I feel like (0:23:01) Jonnie: You know looking at the trailer for my time (0:23:03) Jonnie: Like it looks like a good next iteration on this formula that is (0:23:10) Codey: Mm-hmm. Yeah, um it and they’ve got a lot of stretch goals that they hit as well (0:23:16) Codey: Um, so at 200 i’m just going to go through these rapid fire (0:23:19) Codey: Um, 200 000 was an in-game t-shirt for all backers 250 was uh flirting (0:23:26) Codey: Uh to build emotional connections with npc’s faster. Okay, uh, 300 000 you got the bathtub (0:23:35) Codey: Okay. 400,000 was player voted interaction so it’s a new. (0:23:40) Codey: Romance interaction players can design and vote on their favorite designs interesting looks like some options might be hug or I can’t see that picture very well hug or something else for romance 500,000. (0:23:54) Jonnie: And it looks like maybe a kiss. (0:23:56) Codey: Okay, disgusting at 500. (0:24:00) Codey: It was you unlock they unlocked voting for someone a character from either my time at Portia or my time at Sandrock that can vote. (0:24:11) Codey: So it would be a character that would come into ever shine 600,000 was swimming 700,000 was hot springs 800,000 was a new special pet Oh, they got me players can submit their designs are taking people’s designs 900,000 was a pajama set million was 10 new photo poses and then they put they had hidden goals and of course those goals are unlocked at this point so we have to do that as well. (0:24:40) Codey: We have the hidden goal of log on will will be Logan Logan will be visiting my time. I don’t know. Is this Logan a character a good character from (0:24:46) Jonnie: - Logan. (0:24:53) Codey: The thing. (0:24:54) Jonnie: I don’t know. (0:24:55) Codey: Okay. (0:24:56) Jonnie: It looks like it’s, (0:24:56) Jonnie: I’m assuming it’s a character from my time at Samurai. (0:24:59) Codey: Okay. Yeah, he has like a cowboy hat thing and then a visitor from the past the builder from Sandrock will visit settlement to with Logan for a story quest, you’ll be able to tweak their appearance name and really. (0:25:11) Codey: To get the desired effect. So that is where we currently that’s it. (0:25:15) Codey: I think we’ve already got that. No, no, wait, it’s not clear to be what’s going on with this goal thing. I think it is. Yeah. So at 1.2 million was that and we were already, we’re already at that at 1.4 million the stretch goal, you can now adjust your height cue the that should have been option thing and then so that was what we’re still going for and at 1.7 million is another romance. (0:25:40) Codey: Yeah, not gonna play this but cool. (0:25:41) Jonnie: Look, I keep thinking about whether or not I want to try my time at Samrock just to see (0:25:47) Jonnie: what they’re doing, so I’m not going to commit to not playing this. (0:25:54) Codey: I don’t know it gives me like when I watch the trailer, it’s giving like final fantasy vibes and I I didn’t like final fantasy internet come at me. Okay. (0:26:04) Jonnie: I don’t say that I don’t like Final Fantasy because I’ve never played Final Fantasy. (0:26:09) Codey: Okay. (0:26:10) Codey: cool. This is a safe space. (0:26:14) Codey: Next up is light year frontier. They have a new neighbors and animals update. (0:26:21) Codey: So this is an update that will that is out now actually, it became available out a couple days after we’re recording but it will be out by the time this comes out. (0:26:32) Codey: A big question a lot of people had is if they have save files already is that going to work with a new update it will 100% so you’re. (0:26:40) Codey: They will just like if you have an early access save it will just merge right into the new update. I believe this is also a free update, which is cool. (0:26:51) Jonnie: Ah yeah, so like, yeah Frank, if I remember rightly, is still in demo. (0:26:55) Codey: Yeah. Oh, no, no, it’s in early access now. (0:26:59) Codey: Early access and it has a demo, but the demo is trying to see it the demo itself is coming down on October 8 so you. (0:27:10) Codey: Yeah, so you can get if you buy it, then you can access it now and play it now, but if you have I don’t think that you’re safe from the demo goes over I think it’s your save from early access. (0:27:22) Codey: So the demo was just like a small like if you can just play it for free and see how you like it, but then if you buy it as an early access game, then you’ll get access to this update and whatever file you have will move on to the update. (0:27:38) Codey: This update is including, so it’s called. (0:27:40) Codey: Neighbors and animals, so the neighbors, uh, you invite two new characters, um, to (0:27:46) Codey: your area and it’s a rancher named Diane who of course helps you with the animals. (0:27:51) Codey: Um, and a field research scientist, uh, named all, it doesn’t really say what (0:27:57) Codey: exactly he is, but he does, he helps you like splice seeds together. (0:28:02) Codey: Um, and he has flowers in his beard and I love that. (0:28:06) Jonnie: Yeah, I tried Lightyear Frontier, it didn’t really grab me, I guess this is, I think if you were enjoying Lightyear Frontier, this sounds great, but it doesn’t seem like a huge uptake from my perspective. (0:28:15) Codey: Yeah I think like it’s just a little bit of extra like a couple characters and (0:28:24) Codey: then the animals but other than that I don’t I also don’t really think this is (0:28:28) Codey: adding that much and I am not a fan of space so. Next on our list is Stardew (0:28:37) Codey: Valley. 1.6 is now coming to mobile and switch on the fourth of. (0:28:45) Codey: and concerned ape said quote the console and mobile ports will release at version (0:28:52) Codey: 1.6.9 which will also come to PC around that time. I’m looking forward to having (0:28:58) Codey: 1.6 fully released on all platforms then I would like to finish Haunted (0:29:04) Codey: Chocolate to your next. Thank you. Correct. Correct. So yeah if you (0:29:06) Jonnie: I will believe it when I see it. (0:29:08) Jonnie: Sorry, in reference to haunted chocolate yet not 1.6 coming to mobile. (0:29:16) Codey: console and mobile ports for that are coming out super cool November 4th and so (0:29:22) Codey: if you’ve been waiting to jump back in until that it’s it’s gonna I also like (0:29:27) Codey: how it’s like not only coming to console and mobile at that point but it’s also (0:29:31) Codey: just going straight to like the most updated version and so it’s not like oh (0:29:37) Codey: some are gonna be at 1.6.2 and some are gonna like or anything like that like (0:29:40) Codey: everyone is going to be up to date at the same time. I really like that. (0:29:45) Codey: Next we have paleopines. So there are two upcoming DLCs. The trick-or-treat DLC and (0:29:53) Codey: the spooktacular DLC. We’re getting into spooky season y’all. For trick-or-treat, (0:30:00) Codey: quote, “This DLC is all about a brand new nighttime adventure. Explore paleopines after dark, collect (0:30:06) Codey: treats from your townsfolk pals, and uncover a mysterious trickster who’s up to no good. (0:30:12) Codey: there’s even a cool minigame award off (0:30:15) Codey: some rewards and a chance to befriend some spooky colored dinos that look like (0:30:20) Codey: they’ve crawled straight out of a Halloween movie. I don’t think that (0:30:24) Codey: they’ve put pictures of this up. Oop there’s a trailer video I’m gonna watch (0:30:29) Codey: it now because just come out of a Halloween movie like I don’t know what (0:30:35) Codey: Halloween movies y’all are watching but if a dinosaur came out looking like what (0:30:40) Codey: I would expect coming out of a Halloween movie it would be a little gory (0:30:45) Codey: cuz I watched yeah okay so I just saw one of them was a dinosaur with a pumpkin on (0:30:46) Jonnie: Yeah, I’m guessing these are going to be a little bit cuter. (0:30:52) Codey: its head that is actually adorable unfortunately and then spooktacular DLC (0:31:03) Codey: quote want to make your ranch the spookiest place on the block the (0:31:06) Codey: spooktacular DLC has everything you need decorate your land with spooky scarecrows (0:31:11) Codey: bubbling cauldrons and more you can even get in on the fun with some fang (0:31:15) Codey: fantastic thing thing vampire hot outfits for your rancher dress up and (0:31:21) Codey: show off the Halloween spirit okay so that is more like I don’t know why these (0:31:26) Codey: are they at different times why are there two why are why are they why are (0:31:29) Jonnie: Who knows? Who knows? (0:31:31) Codey: they (0:31:32) Jonnie: Because more DLC means more money. (0:31:33) Codey: it’s true well I thought that okay I don’t know they’re cute though if you (0:31:39) Codey: like paleopines and you’re just looking for more skins and cute minigames and (0:31:44) Codey: stuff, let’s come out. (0:31:45) Codey: Okay, I feel like this is the one that’s going to take a lot (0:31:49) Codey: of our, a lot of our time, unless you don’t have too much (0:31:53) Codey: to talk about it. But I assume you do. Last but certainly not (0:31:56) Codey: least, tales of the Shire. So on September 22, it was Hobbit Day, (0:32:02) Codey: because correct me if I’m wrong, that is Bilbo and his uncle’s (0:32:09) Codey: birthday. No, Bilbo and thank you Frodo and Bilbo’s birthday. (0:32:10) Jonnie: Ah, photo of Bilbo’s birthday? (0:32:15) Codey: So that came out on Hobbit Day and it was a 18 minute trailer. (0:32:18) Codey: It was super cute. What did you think about the trailer? (0:32:22) Jonnie: I don’t think there was anything new revealed in the trailer or in the in the showcase, I think it was mostly just new like more detail on stuff we already knew, so there wasn’t a ton, I think that I have to say about it, other than putting a bunch of New Zealanders to speak on camera is like the worst possible choice to get people excited about your game (0:32:48) Codey: What? I loved it! (0:32:53) Jonnie: As a people, we are not exciting to listen to and terrible on camera and I was just like this was certainly a choice and not a very good one (0:32:54) Codey: Did you know anyone who was on camera? (0:33:06) Codey: Okay, awesome. (0:33:06) Codey: Because New Zealand is such a tiny place, clearly. (0:33:09) Codey: You guys all know each other. (0:33:11) Codey: Well, that’s super cool. (0:33:13) Codey: Okay, but like what, so of the things that we saw some more content on, like did you (0:33:18) Codey: have anything that you were really jazzed about or anything? (0:33:21) Jonnie: So for me, the thing that I am most excited about with this is the focus on cooking. (0:33:28) Jonnie: And for me, it’s the idea that the game is built around a specific aspect of cosy games. (0:33:38) Jonnie: We have had so many cosy games that just do the Stardew Valley thing of, (0:33:45) Jonnie: “We’re going to do all of it, and it’s all equally important.” (0:33:50) Jonnie: what I like about this. (0:33:51) Jonnie: Is that it’s like very focused around the thing that is important to Hobbits, right? (0:33:55) Jonnie: Um, there was a game I recall, I don’t think it’s ever come out yet, but it’s been around (0:34:02) Jonnie: in the news for a while, which was based around building and owning an inn. (0:34:06) Jonnie: And the more we learned about that game, the less it felt like it was in any way connected (0:34:09) Jonnie: to owning an inn, because it just had every feature from every other cozy game. (0:34:10) Codey: Yeah. (0:34:15) Jonnie: And that’s the thing that has me most excited. (0:34:18) Jonnie: and you see it through some of the little choices (0:34:21) Jonnie: that you’re making as well, like the fact that it’s not a grid based placement system for decorating in your hobbit hole (0:34:24) Codey: Yup. (0:34:28) Jonnie: so that it can be a chaotic mess, like I imagine a hobbit hole would be, to me it just feels like those little decisions are… (0:34:37) Jonnie: it makes sense in the game that they are building and in the world that they are building that game in. (0:34:42) Codey: Yeah, I really like that was one thing that really stuck out to me is like the customization (0:34:49) Codey: capabilities of the decorating where it like showed a character putting something on a (0:34:56) Codey: couch like a pillow and they were able to like position it any way they wanted and like (0:35:02) Codey: turn it like just like 10 degrees or whatever and just make it like exactly how they wanted (0:35:07) Codey: it and I thought that I love when games do that like I’ve always loved it. (0:35:12) Codey: The Sims, after the first couple of Sims, they’ve added a way that you can do that. (0:35:17) Codey: There is a grid-based system, but you can hit a key and then it’ll let you put things (0:35:21) Codey: wherever you want. (0:35:23) Codey: So it gives more, it doesn’t feel as rigid. (0:35:26) Codey: I super appreciated that about this. (0:35:29) Codey: They also said as you play, some of the spaces in your home are boarded up, but as you’re (0:35:37) Codey: playing the game, you get access to more of those rooms. (0:35:40) Codey: get someone to help you. (0:35:42) Codey: Take the boards off of one door and then they’re like, and then you can (0:35:45) Codey: decorate that room, that room, however you want. (0:35:48) Codey: And I was like, and they showed a really cool library. (0:35:50) Codey: And I was like, y’all know, I’m just going to make a lib, all libraries. (0:35:54) Codey: Right. (0:35:55) Jonnie: yep (0:35:57) Codey: I’m going to have a living room, like a living area that has like a desk. (0:36:02) Codey: Uh, and then of course you have your pantry with all your food and your (0:36:05) Codey: kitchen and like probably a kitchen table room or what is that called? (0:36:08) Codey: Dining room, uh, probably a bedroom. (0:36:11) Codey: right, but every other (0:36:12) Codey: room that I unlock is just going to be another version of a (0:36:15) Codey: library because that would be what my house would look like. (0:36:19) Codey: So I also really, the highlight of the video for me was the art (0:36:25) Codey: director’s dog. There’s a moment where he like talks about I (0:36:28) Codey: don’t even know what he says but he starts walking and the camera (0:36:31) Codey: just like zooms in at his feet and there’s just a dog walking (0:36:34) Codey: next to him. It’s this little white poofy dog. So cute. I (0:36:38) Codey: I loved that. (0:36:39) Codey: Have you pet that dog? (0:36:40) Jonnie: have not pet that dog. Okay, I’ll add it to the list of things to do next time I’m in Wellington. (0:36:47) Codey: Okay, cool. (0:36:49) Codey: The other thing that I really wanted to point out was the cooking mechanic. (0:36:53) Codey: They really seem to have a lot of options and (0:36:57) Codey: a lot of different ways that you could do that. (0:37:00) Codey: So for example, they had, I think you were cooking meat or something, but (0:37:04) Codey: you were cutting it. (0:37:05) Codey: And there was an option between going really chunky or really fine cut. (0:37:12) Codey: It just had to do with how long you chopped for, right? (0:37:17) Codey: So if you chopped for only a small amount of time, it was on the chunkier side. (0:37:21) Codey: And then there’s a bar that it’s the longer you chop that just keeps moving to (0:37:25) Codey: the right and it’s just finer and finer and finer. (0:37:28) Codey: And it kind of gives you a discrete or a continuous scale. (0:37:32) Codey: And I really like that cuz it allows for a lot of nuance in cooking. (0:37:36) Jonnie: Yeah, I agree. Right. For me, that’s one of the things that seems like has been done really well about the game is because different recipes, as I understand it, will require like some might want chunkier meat or some might want more finely diced. (0:37:51) Jonnie: Right. And so you can. And I can’t remember if it was shown in this video or a previous one, but there was different sort of flavor scales. (0:37:58) Codey: Yeah, yeah, it was like smokey, smokey versus something else, yeah. (0:38:01) Jonnie: So you’re actually. (0:38:04) Jonnie: Exactly. So you’re actually cry- (0:38:06) Jonnie: crafting dishes rather than, rather than just like kind of the standard cooking, right? (0:38:14) Jonnie: Which is just like do the action on time, which is fine. (0:38:18) Jonnie: You’re doing real cooking and that’s very much at the core of the game and it seems like it’s got a- (0:38:25) Codey: Mm-hmm. Yeah for sure. Um, was there anything else that you wanted to talk about with Tales of the Shire? (0:38:30) Jonnie: Oh yeah, so the other thing, in general discourse about this game, I see a lot of commentary (0:38:39) Jonnie: around the art style, and obviously because it’s the internet, most of the commentary (0:38:45) Jonnie: you see is people that don’t like it, and for me the art style is unique. (0:38:52) Jonnie: I totally get why people may not love this art style, but I almost feel like a lot of (0:38:57) Jonnie: the reaction is because art has become (0:39:00) Jonnie: a little bit homogenous in games recently and this is a different art style. Yes, like it is (0:39:08) Jonnie: a relatively simple art style but I think it works for what the game is and it’s not something (0:39:15) Jonnie: that I’m going to sit stand here and say it’s my favorite but I think it works and I feel like (0:39:20) Jonnie: it’s getting a lot of overly negative views on the art style simply because it’s not (0:39:27) Jonnie: aligned to what we commonly think of art style. (0:39:30) Jonnie: Where it’s like either your pixel or you know like this kind of you know legend of uh not legend (0:39:38) Jonnie: of Zelda Breath of the Wild style like you know like it just feels like there’s a small number of (0:39:44) Jonnie: categories now and if you don’t fit into one of those then people look at it and go that it’s bad. (0:39:48) Jonnie: But when I look at this I get um uh to me it kind of aligns to the an art style that was sort of (0:39:56) Jonnie: preeminent in you know mid-2000s. I think of games like Fable. (0:40:00) Codey: Mmm, yeah. (0:40:01) Jonnie: And you know Fable is like very English, old England inspired. Obviously Lord of the Rings, (0:40:08) Jonnie: the Shire, very inspired by that region of the world. So there’s something like actually (0:40:13) Jonnie: that I like about this art style that makes me feel slightly nostalgic. So anyway I just (0:40:18) Jonnie: see a lot of negative discourse and I think that’s largely driven by people being less accepting of (0:40:24) Jonnie: things that are trying something new and I quite like what this is doing. (0:40:28) Codey: - Yeah, I think that that was my initial gut reaction too, (0:40:31) Codey: was like, oh, this is the unknown. (0:40:33) Codey: Like, ah, spooky. (0:40:35) Codey: But I feel that like the more I see trailers of it, (0:40:39) Codey: the more it’s like endearing to me. (0:40:40) Codey: And I think it’s just something I just need to get used to. (0:40:42) Codey: I don’t think that it’s bad. (0:40:44) Codey: I think it’s just different. (0:40:45) Codey: And I’m excited to see where it goes. (0:40:46) Jonnie: Exactly, uh, only other thing is, uh, Lidl. Lidl, best character. (0:40:52) Jonnie: Lidl is the goose that’s got the armour. (0:40:53) Codey: Oh cute. Cool. Well that is the news. Okay so today we are talking about what games should include (0:41:06) Codey: farming. So these are games either that we’re coming up with off the top of our head or existing (0:41:11) Codey: games that just like why don’t they have a farming aspect to them really. So when this was pitched to (0:41:19) Codey: to me. I think it was pitched because of some of the conversations that like Al (0:41:23) Codey: and Kevin had been having. And I was like really sitting there. I was like, man, okay, (0:41:29) Codey: think of games that are not farming games. My brain went to like Call of Duty. And I was like, (0:41:36) Codey: no, or like Baldur’s Gate. I don’t think that’s gonna have farming in it. I do know World of (0:41:42) Codey: Warcraft did have farming in it in the midst of Pandaria expansion. It was actually pretty cool, (0:41:47) Codey: but it was just kind of like a small little way to get experience with a certain fact. (0:41:53) Codey: I didn’t even think about that! (0:42:12) Jonnie: The first game that came to mind for me was Skyrim, yeah, to me, yeah, so to me it was (0:42:24) Codey: Oh my gosh! Okay, elaborate. I’m here for it. (0:42:28) Jonnie: one of those like Skyrim is such a big game right and when I was thinking about what would (0:42:37) Jonnie: make sense for a sort of genre to add farming too. (0:42:43) Jonnie: The thing that really stood out to me is like how would it meaningfully add something to (0:42:48) Jonnie: the gameplay of the game right and I don’t recall if Skyrim had like if you could build (0:42:56) Jonnie: farms when you could do some of the house building stuff but that was sort of you know (0:43:01) Jonnie: very limited and you know I guess when I say Skyrim right it’s like any sort of Bethesda (0:43:06) Jonnie: style open world game I kind of feel like this applies to where it would be great if (0:43:11) Jonnie: if you could… (0:43:14) Jonnie: just… (0:43:14) Jonnie: more farming, because farming is a… (0:43:18) Jonnie: like, often you get resources from farms that exist, right? (0:43:22) Jonnie: Like, whether it’s potatoes or whatever it is. (0:43:26) Jonnie: But equally, kind of, the more I thought about it, the more the thing that stood out to me (0:43:32) Jonnie: is the ability to do farming in a way that’s slightly different (0:43:36) Jonnie: because you have so many different locations that you could do farming in. (0:43:40) Jonnie: and what I started thinking about. (0:43:41) Codey: Yeah. (0:43:42) Codey: Oh, I’m sorry. (0:43:42) Jonnie: was the idea of like, imagine what farming would be like in Fallout, where you have soil that is full of radiation, and maybe you are generating all of these, you know, plants that have mutations on them, or maybe in Skyrim, where you’re farming near the mountains, and you know, it’s really icy, maybe that changes how you farm, or in a game like Starfield, which nobody played because it was terrible, like, what is it like farming on? (0:43:44) Codey: I’m sorry. (0:43:46) Codey: I’m sorry. (0:43:48) Codey: I’m sorry. (0:43:50) Codey: I’m sorry. (0:44:09) Codey: Yeah. (0:44:12) Jonnie: a planet that’s further away from the local star that the planets are orbiting around, so I got really excited about like, the variation that’s possible within those sorts of things. (0:44:20) Codey: Yeah. (0:44:26) Codey: Yeah, I think that that is really a cool idea, like I’m thinking about, you know, the farm that (0:44:33) Codey: you would have in like Whiterun or around Whiterun will be completely different than the one around (0:44:38) Codey: Markarth, which is going to be a higher elevation versus like the one in the swampy area that I (0:44:46) Codey: hate going to that’s gonna have completely different things like it’s (0:44:50) Codey: like water and then like of course the solstheim when you go there there’s (0:44:57) Codey: probably different crops there I’m sure I’m all in for this I did a quick (0:45:03) Codey: Google and apparently there is like a content creation thing that someone made (0:45:07) Codey: that does this which I’d prefer it to be there are so many mods you can get for (0:45:14) Codey: this game it’s ridiculous but I don’t know it’s I would like it to be more of (0:45:19) Codey: of a, like, in the– (0:45:20) Codey: game thing. Um… (0:45:22) Jonnie: Yeah I want it to be inbuilt right because like I can imagine you know like maybe there’s a farming guild and you need to go and grow certain crops or at which role might require a farm in like you could I think you could build a lot more story around the nature of farming in an open world game. (0:45:23) Codey: Yes. (0:45:41) Codey: Yeah, the only so there’s there is one plantation that you can get in the game right now. It’s called Golden Hills plantation (0:45:49) Codey: So you just you start the farm, but then you have to hire a steward hire people to work the farm (0:45:56) Codey: Tell them them what to plant tell them what to build (0:46:01) Codey: By animals and then you just come up and the stewards like here’s your money. Here’s here’s the (0:46:05) Jonnie: Yeah, that doesn’t sound correct. (0:46:06) Codey: Here’s the profit and it’s like okay, but like I want to do it (0:46:11) Codey: And there could be magic that is just like growing (0:46:17) Codey: like helping to grow (0:46:20) Codey: Trying to think of what magic system conjuration (0:46:22) Codey: Ah. (0:46:23) Jonnie: but it could be it could be a new magic system right like because those those games don’t really have strong nature based stuff but it exists because you have dry ads and like that the some of the lore exists but it’s not something that’s been integral to the player character. (0:46:32) Codey: yeah (0:46:37) Codey: uh-huh (0:46:40) Codey: Yeah, it’s really not so there’s the (0:46:43) Codey: Six types of magic are alteration, conjuration, destruction, enchanting, illusion, and restoration, but like farming doesn’t really fit in (0:46:50) Codey: Oh my gosh. I am (0:46:52) Codey: You’ve sold me. Um, I love Skyrim (0:46:56) Codey: so (0:46:57) Codey: I can’t believe that didn’t come to my mind (0:47:00) Codey: Um, it’s like a whole new skill tree, too (0:47:03) Codey: Okay (0:47:03) Jonnie: Yeah, it’s- there’s so many options, right? What about you, Cody? What was- what was the thing that sort of landed for you? (0:47:10) Codey: So, of course the lowest hanging fruit the fruit that’s basically on the ground at this point, um is pokemon (0:47:18) Codey: Um and people are gonna be like oh you berries (0:47:22) Codey: There’s so much more that you could do with that (0:47:24) Codey: um (0:47:25) Codey: Or like working with pokemon the pokemon that are food already like using them to help (0:47:32) Codey: You farm like (0:47:35) Codey: I could see like the (0:47:37) Codey: Uh olive guy helping you with like trees and he’s helping you take care of trees and he gives you advice on like how to (0:47:46) Codey: Harvest different tree-based fruits (0:47:48) Codey: um, you know (0:47:51) Codey: Miltank and other such things, uh, that Wooloo wool so much wool from that baby writer (0:47:59) Codey: Uh, all the pigs could find truffle. I mean there’s like (0:48:03) Codey: So many options for that (0:48:05) Codey: There is a player made game when I was googling if this exists or not (0:48:11) Codey: In any way, there’s a player made game that someone said that is going to have this but to my knowledge it has been in (0:48:18) Codey: creation or like in (0:48:21) Codey: Development for like a decade at this point so and it’s not sanctioned so (0:48:27) Codey: I am not gonna hold my breath on that (0:48:30) Codey: Oh. (0:48:31) Jonnie: And even the ability to use Pokemon for the jobs, whether it’s using ground-type Pokemon to help (0:48:39) Jonnie: level out and create the plots that you farm in, or using Gurdo and Kin to build your farm buildings. (0:48:50) Jonnie: And just some of

Get more Billionaires Are Good on our patreon! Dave and Caleb dive into the many, many layers of reasons why Elon Musk is good. Everyone knows he's a billionaire, but do they know he is good? He is VERY good. He is good at being smart, he is good at making money, and he's a good DJ. Dave and Caleb also get into why they decided to leave behind the name What's it Called, the name of their podcast for the last three years, and they debut DOUG FACTS! Every episode ends with a segment called What's it Called, where Dave and Caleb rename a movie with YOUR help. The game this episode was: what would Borderlands be called if it was about the US/Canada border? And the Ricky S**t goes to... Carlstoon on our Discord! With the suggestion "Oop lemme squeeze right by yah" 0:00 We are no longer called What's it Called 1:53 What is Billionaires Are Good? 3:15 Dave's Top 4 People 4:10 Billionaire of the Week: Elon Musk 4:40 Money is the Scourge of History and We Want It 5:06 We Are Like Scrooge McDuck 8:46 Modern Rodney Dangerfield 16:12 Is Elon Musk the Richest Man Today? 19:30 it's Doug Emhoff's Fault 20:23 DOUG FACTS 23:28 They Don't Talk Dumb in Texas 25:46 Doug Comforting Kamala 26:31 Bill Comforting Hillary 27:54 Elon Musk Is Good 29:55 The King of Twitter 30:36 To Get More Followers, Buy the Site 31:07 "Elon Made a Song" 31:53 "Trump Wrote a Book" 34:30 The Boring Modern Cowboy 38:54 Is Elon Hotter Than Sly Stallone? 40:30 Is Elon Hotter Than Ted Cruz? 44:01 Is Elon Hotter Than Frasier's Dad? 55:03 What's it Called ⁠YouTube Subscribe⁠ ⁠Billionaires Are Good Merch Billionaires Are Good is a comedy podcast hosted by Dave Ross and Caleb Synan, two standup comedians who believe billionaires are good. They think gold is good, and hustling is good, and hustle culture is the BEST, because climbing over your brother to get one inch closer to the tiniest bit of money is good. People are nothing and status is everything and billionaires are good because they know that. Dave and Caleb also like the moon and curse words and how Joe Biden acts. More Billionaires Are Good Patreon Instagram Twitter Discord Official website Like and comment on videos to join the conversation! New episodes every week so make sure to check back regularly for new videos! Wanna play the What's it Called game? Follow to rename movies with us: Discord Twitter Every week we post on Twitter and Discord which movie we're renaming. You respond to the post with your suggestions, and sometimes they'll get featured on the show! At the end of each episode we read our top ten favorite suggestions that week. More Dave Ross Instagram Tiktok Official website More Caleb Synan Instagram Twitter Official website Episode produced by Dave Ross Theme Song by Chris Cresswell

This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club.http://gotopia.tech/bookclubRead the full transcription of the interview hereVenkat Subramaniam - Author of "Cruising Along with Java" and Many More BooksAlina Yurenko - Developer Advocate for GraalVM at Oracle LabsRESOURCESVenkathttps://twitter.com/venkat_shttps://www.linkedin.com/in/vsubramaniamhttps://github.com/venkatshttp://www.agiledeveloper.comAlinahttps://twitter.com/alina_yurenkohttps://github.com/alina-yurhttps://linkedin.com/in/alinayurenkoDESCRIPTIONJava is on a fast-paced development schedule that brings with it improved design capabilities and enhancements for application security. Learn about the changes to Java, from version 9 to 19, and apply new features to build enterprise applications faster and with fewer errors. Get up to speed on how to make your code concise, expressive, and less error prone, and create better OO programs with the newest features. Modularize and create asynchronous applications with ease and proper error handling. This book contains twelve chapters that dive deep into the features, using plenty of examples for you to practice along with.* Book description: © Pragmatic ProgrammersRECOMMENDED BOOKSVenkat Subramaniam • Cruising Along with JavaVenkat Subramaniam • Programming KotlinVenkat Subramaniam • Functional Programming in JavaVenkat Subramaniam • Pragmatic ScalaVenkat Subramaniam • Test-Driving JavaScript ApplicationsSubramaniam & Hunt • Practices of an Agile DeveloperTwitterInstagramLinkedInFacebookLooking for a unique learning experience?Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.techSUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

Cosmic Cuts lives in the primordial soup of hip hop, boom bap, electronica, soul and Rnb. Vibe with us for our 8th annual 420 celebration curated by @djunjust ! Unjust recommends you turn the volume up, dim the lights, and savor the present. This episode is meant to be a blunt for the soul (no green required but it is known elevate the experience). Recorded live in Nairobi for Low End Theory Kenya! Should out to @basthma-1 and The Mist! artist - track VRSYJNES - Feel My Fye ft. Amber London & Dough Amber London - Remember Amber London - Nebula Smino - Mr. Pinterest RIZE - Niko Eazeh (ft Steph) Styles Davis - betigotsumweed SiR - Rapper Weed ft Boogie tg.blk - gin and wine Ari Lennox - Backwood mac miller - Diablo tg blk - NYDFRYSTL mxxwll - SMOKE W U lojii - $till Potatohead People - Last Nite ft Redman Blu & Shafiq Husayn - Roll Up (ft Jimetta Rose, Donel Smokes, and Tiron) dr.Oop and The Red, Gold & Green Machine - The Look Of Love segal syrup slowdown Holly Cook - beat goes on dub Lee Scratch Perry x Yaadcore x Green Lion Crew - Green Brain (Subatomic Sound System Vocal Remix) Little Simz - Two Worlds Apart (S!RENE Edit) femi kuti - Bad Man Lighter (Remix) ft Black Thought Wakadinali - Mariwana Just Imagine Africa - BANGI Simen Sez - 420 >> whatevever it takes YDK WHY (buju, wayne wonder + austin millz) I got 5 on it g-funk edition

Flip takes over as leader for Za Za Hounddog Jenkins, Grom, Lysander, and new dragonborn monk Kathar Videro, who seems very interested in Flip. They have a tricky battle in a narrow hallway with some vicious redcaps - Za Za goes to death saves four separate times. They all drink from a strange magical fountain and Flip becomes wiser. Za Za almost drowns after finding his way through a flooded passage. The group discovers a kuo-toa shrine (Oop! Ooop!) and fights a few of them, then recovers some treasure including a Deck of Illusions before fleeing the kuo-toa reinforcements. Za Za is given to the nixie Kallista to nurse back to health and serve her for a year, and the rest of the party makes it to civilization in Rickety Bridge. Mike reads a letter received by Gemwin that promises adventure near Axeholm next time...

On the 3rd day of summer break GJWF1 gave to me…a somewhat normal recording that devolved into chaos on the back end (OOP). James Coker is here, and this episode has *EVERYTHING*: minions, being starved for attention, the Ina Garten and Jeffrey of F1, checking on your friends who work in Comms, Carlos giving us the run around, James' content creation “strategy,” who's a good hang, being haters about the F1 movie title, where to find adult leotards, if racing should be an Olympic sport, Glen Powell, who we'd let plan our summer holidays, how does Ruth Buscombe do it??, where to find a cough syrup sponsor, an impromptu Toto Wolff impersonation, wtf is a sexy bobsled?, screaming, laughing, hooting AND hollering. Enjoy!You can find more from James at TikTok, Instagram, and the WTF1 Podcast!IntroWhat James has been up to 2:30Poor George 14:45Carlos Going to Williams 18:52Summer Break 22:58Olympics Chatter 32:01Listener Submissions and Questions 57:50@GirlsJustWanna_F1 on Insta@GirlsJustWannaF1 on TikTok@GirlsWannaF1Pod on TwitterGirlsJustWannaF1@gmail.comAll the LinksThanks for listening!♥️ Natalie

For today's extra special episode, we're giving you special access to our Patreon spin-off show – DISCRETION ADVISED: UNCUT – with a supercut of segments from our most recent episodes. Hosted by longtime friends and ex-boyfriends Marc MacNamara and Diego Sans, this unfiltered compilation starts off with these two diving into the biggest and gayest headlines of the summer as they discuss having sex with the lights off, the downsides of having XXL meat, and the average body count of a gay man. Then, after a conversation about the news that rocked the gay porn industry back in June, it's time for a roulette of mystery questions! Listen and watch along as these two blindly select and respond to each other's random inquiries while dishing on everything from Diego's oral talents to fake orgasms. To close out, we're serving up the side-splitting prank call that Marc made to his real-life sister that has him “revealing” a hetero hookup that led to an unexpected pregnancy. Oop!  Thanks for tuning in and for even more UNCUT action, be sure to check out Patreon.com/DiscAdPod every Monday for full episodes of DISCRETION ADVISED: UNCUT plus loads of other exclusive bonus and behind-the-scenes content.

Please enjoy a special sneak peek at our Patreon feed with this ridiculous episode from Tier 2 "TOBURKY WANT MORE" where Ashley and Hayley read some WILD Pretty Little Liars fan fiction. From the Patreon Feed: We went onto the depths of the internet to find some some SMUT to deliver to you. We were honestly shocked with just how raunchy these got so you may need to brace yourselves for this one (and, of course, there is some peak GOOF in this erotica too). If you want to read the entire fanfic stories we cover in this ep, they're all linked below (honestly darls, they were TOO smutty for us to read 100% of!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)   CALL AN ADULT PATREON LINK: patreon.com/callanadult   1. Spencer/Hanna/Toby threesome OOP  https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11401176/35/Pretty-Little-Liars-Tales-of-Love   2. Barch In The Tent 2.0 https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11401176/1/Pretty-Little-Liars-Tales-of-Love   3. Elizabeth AKA the NEW GIRL https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14334478/1/ELIZABETH-JACOB   4. Victoria Slaystings POV https://archiveofourown.org/works/55082689?view_adult=true   5. Sparia https://archiveofourown.org/works/7514404/chapters/17080882#workskin  

Topics covered in this episode: Solara UI Framework Coverage at a crossroads “Virtual” methods in Python classes Extras Joke Watch on YouTube About the show Sponsored by ScoutAPM: pythonbytes.fm/scout Connect with the hosts Michael: @mkennedy@fosstodon.org Brian: @brianokken@fosstodon.org Show: @pythonbytes@fosstodon.org Join us on YouTube at pythonbytes.fm/live to be part of the audience. Usually Tuesdays at 10am PT. Older video versions available there too. Finally, if you want an artisanal, hand-crafted digest of every week of the show notes in email form? Add your name and email to our friends of the show list, we'll never share it. Michael #1: Solara UI Framework via Florian A Pure Python, React-style Framework for Scaling Your Jupyter and Web Apps Solara lets you build web apps from pure Python using ipywidgets or a React-like API on top of ipywidgets. These apps work both inside the Jupyter Notebook and as standalone web apps with frameworks like FastAPI. See the Examples page. Based on Reacton By building on top of ipywidgets, Solara automatically leverage an existing ecosystem of widgets and run on many platforms, including JupyterLab, Jupyter Notebook, Voilà, Google Colab, DataBricks, JetBrains Datalore, and more. Brian #2: Coverage at a crossroads Ned Batchelder is working on making coverage.py faster. Includes a nice, quick explanation of roughly how coverage.py works with trace function and arcs used for branch coverage. And how trace slows things down for lines we know are already covered. There are cool ideas from SlipCover that could be applicable. There's also sys.monitoring from Python 3.12 that helps with line coverage, since you can disable it for lines you already have info on. It doesn't quite complete the picture for branch coverage, though. Summary: jump in and help if you can read it anyway for a great mental model of how coverage.py works. Michael #3: “Virtual” methods in Python classes via Brian Skinn PEP 698 just got accepted, defining an @override decorator for type hinting, to help avoid errors in subclasses that override methods. Only affects type checkers but allows you to declare a “link” between the base method and derived class method with the intent of overriding it using OOP. If there is a mismatch, it's an error. Python 3.12's documentation Makes Python a bit more like C# and other more formal languages Brian #4: Parsing Python ASTs 20x Faster with Rust Evan Doyle Tach is “a CLI tool that lets you define and enforce import boundaries between Python modules in your project.” we covered it in episode 384 When used to analyze Sentry's ~3k Python file codebase, it took about 10 seconds. Profiling analysis using py-spy and speedscope pointed to a function that spends about 2/3 of the time parsing the AST, and about 1/3 traversing it. That portion was then rewritten in Rust, resulting in 10x speedup, ending in about 1 second. This is a cool example of not just throwing Rust at a speed problem right away, but doing the profiling homework first, and focusing the Rust rewrite on the bottleneck. Extras Brian: I brought up pkgutil.resolve_name() last week on episode 388 Brett Cannon says don't use that, it's deprecated Thanks astroboy for letting me know Will we get CalVer for Python? it was talked about at the language summit There's also pep 2026, in draft, with a nice nod in the number of when it might happen. 3.13 already in the works for 2024 3.14 slated for 2025, and we gotta have a pi release So the earliest is then 2026, with maybe a 3.26 version ? Saying thanks to open source maintainers Great write-up by Brett Cannon about how to show your appreciation for OSS maintainers. Be nice Be an advocate Produce your own open source Say thanks Fiscal support On topic Thanks Brett for pyproject.toml. I love it. Michael: The Shiny for Python course is out! Plus, it's free so come and get it. Joke: Tao of Programming: Book 1: Into the Silent Void, Part 1

An airhacks.fm conversation with Nicolai Parlog (@nipafx) about: the advantages and challenges of Object-oriented programming (OOP) vs data-oriented programming (DOP) in Java, using Java record classes, sealed interfaces, and switch expressions to implement business logic outside of data classes, the advantages of polymorphism and transparent persistence in specific use cases, the pitfalls of deep inheritance hierarchies and instance of checks, modeling data with records and sealed interfaces, validating data at the boundaries and ensuring immutability, using switch expressions and pattern matching for type-based logic, the advantages of data-oriented programming for maintainability and safety, applying data-oriented programming to web services and data pipelines, combining enums with records for complex configurations Nicolai Parlog on twitter: @nipafx

CLP coach Nate Schmitt (N8Ball on Discord) covers learning how to continue on different flop textures after we 3 bet from OOP.

If you're studying to become a software developer or you're early in your career, then this episode is for you! We will be covering five basic concepts every developer should know from what a variable is, to the SOLID principles. In the epsiode, we give a brief overview of our five most important software concepts as well as direct you to our other episodes if you want to learn more. Links Programming Fundamentals Check out Episode 10. Common Data Structures Check out Episode 4. Getting Started: The Fundamental Concepts of Coding Version control Check out Episode 20 Why you need Version Control in your Life if you want to learn more about version control Check out Episode 22 Git 101 to learn more about Git Object-Oriented Programming and Popular Design Principles Check out Episode 34. What is Object-Oriented Programming? to learn more about OOP and its principles Check out Episode 12. What is Good Code? to learn about a bunch of popular design principles. Check out Episode 37. Breaking Down the SOLID Principles Basics of software components Check out Episode 9: Types of Software Engineering Roles to learn about different types of software and the people that work on them Check out Episode 24 Basics of Software Infrastructure to learn more about the different parts of a software system work together Debugging and Problem-Solving Skills Check out Episode 4. Getting Started: The Fundamental Concepts of Coding (starting at 16.53) to learn more about debuggers and IDE Check out Episode 32. Are IDEs the Makeup Bags of the Coding World? (starting at 7.28) to learn even MORE about debuggers and IDE Hot Girls Code will be back on the 14th of August. Follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tik Tok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @hot_girls_code to keep up to date with the podcast & learn more about being a women in tech!

Leetcode doesn't matter if you can't pass the tech screen.Yeah, that 15-20 min HR call at the beginning of the whole interview process.All your leetcode stats, OOP experience, and system design excellence don't matter if you can't convince HR you're worth the company's time.  When you tune in, I'll give you a much higher chance of making that interviewer your ally and advocate.This episode includes how to:- Ask great questions- Handle salary questions- Impress them technically- Approach it authentically- Connect with them quickly- Be prepared for any question- Stand out as a great candidate- Prove that you know the company Passing the HR Tech Screen is a skill that can be learned. Tune in as we dive into how we can improve, especially as software engineers.Send me a message!Thanks for listening! And for checking out these show notes

The Drunk Guys become masters of the beer universe this week when they read Bonfire of the Vanities by Tom Wolfe. They master: Compartmentalized by Finback, Murderous by Pipeworks, Cake News by Omipollo, Gimme the Gorbage by Little House, and Oop! I Hopped My Pants! by Sand City Brewing. Join

Caregiving for aging and dying parents can be tough for anyone, but it's even tougher when it forces you to confront longtime family dynamics of abuse. Sociologist Deborah Cohan blurs the lines between academic research on family caregiving and violence, and her own personal story about a father she calls both adoring and abusive.  Her memoir is called Welcome to Wherever We Are: A Memoir of Family, Caregiving, and Redemption. Transcript DEBORAH COHAN: Time is really strange in a nursing home. People are motivated by the mealtimes. Newspaper delivery is listed as an activity. They're just mundane activities in my life or your life, but they become these big events at these nursing homes. When you're there, and you're well, and you're witnessing that, it's really hard to watch and to do time the way they're doing time. BLAIR HODGES: Deborah Cohan knows there's nothing easy about caregiving for a dying parent. She watched over her father as he spent the last few years of his life in a nursing home. Witnessing a parent's decline into dementia is hard enough, but Deborah's situation was especially complicated because it happened after she endured years of emotional and verbal abuse from her father. What's it like to want abuse to stop, but a relationship to continue? Is it possible to forgive someone who can't even remember what they did? Deborah's answers to these questions might surprise you. She draws on her expertise as a sociologist and a domestic abuse counselor to make sense of her own life after her father's death. Her book is called Welcome to Wherever We Are: A Memoir of Family, Caregiving, and Redemption. Deborah joins us to talk about it right now. There's no one right way to be a family and every kind of family has something we can learn from. I'm Blair Hodges, and this is Family Proclamations. A UNIQUE BOOK ON ELDERCARE (1:50) BLAIR HODGES: Deborah J. Cohan, welcome to Family Proclamations. DEBORAH COHAN: Thank you so much for having me, Blair. It's great to be here. BLAIR HODGES: It's great to have you. Deborah, there are a lot of books out there about caregiving for aging parents. There are also a lot of books out there about what it's like to witness and experience abuse in families. But there aren't a whole lot of books that are about both of those things in the same book. You've written a book here about what it means to care for an ageing and ill parent who also happens to have been an abuser. That's how you introduce it. Talk about the decision to write a book like that. It's a unique book. DEBORAH COHAN: Thanks for noticing that. I guess sometimes we write the books we wish existed so we could have them as our own guide, and as an expert in domestic violence, and also as someone who's studied the sociology of families, it made perfect sense for me to create what I call a "braided memoir." These two stories are very much interlocking in the book, and in many people's lives. Even if there's not actual abuse in someone's family, there's so much relatable stuff in the book because of the different complicated dynamics we all find ourselves in just by living in our families. Most families have some complicated dynamics of some sort. I was really trying to help others to think about that, and to think about how these two things that are happening in the culture are really often happening at the same time, which is the complicated family piece, and also the fact that more and more people are involved in some amount of caregiving. And it tends to be gendered, where women tend to be doing it more. BLAIR HODGES: You're a specialist who's studied family violence as well. You say “family violence is a dynamic process. It's not an event or an isolated set of events.” It's an environment and you say it unfolds and takes different shapes, often over years of time. Now in your own personal experience, you've come to see how it can be lodged in caregiving. Talk a little bit about that. DEBORAH COHAN: A lot of times when domestic violence is talked about, especially in the media, we hear about it as an episode, or we hear about it as an incident—sort of an isolated event. What I learned through working with violent men for so many years at the oldest battering intervention program in the country—which is Emerge in Boston—and also working with survivors, is that these things that are referred to as “incidents” or “events” or “episodes,” they are connected experiences. It usually escalates over time. If practitioners and advocates and others in the field, and even just people's friends, can help people to see the connection and help them connect the dots between this episode and then this one—because I talk about how there's connective tissue, if you will. For example, most abusers don't start being abusive by punching someone or strangling them or any of those sorts of things. These things start out in lots of other ways. They get accelerated through time. I think it's important to see this stuff isn't a one-time thing. These things build on each other. SHADOWS IN SHAKER HEIGHTS (3:46) BLAIR HODGES: Maybe take a minute or two really quickly here to give us the broad strokes of your family. Who is this book about? Where are you from? DEBORAH COHAN: Currently I live in South Carolina. But I was born and raised in Cleveland in a pretty storied suburb, actually— BLAIR HODGES: This is Shaker Heights. DEBORAH COHAN: —Yes. Lots of books, and magazines, and articles, and all sorts of stuff on it. It's an interesting and complex place. I think people who don't live there think of it as this sort of gilded community, upper middle class, et cetera. Lots of other things are happening there, as they are everywhere. The one interesting thing is when you grow up in a community where there is an amount of privilege, and there are resources and things, things like family violence do become even more secretive. It's not until I published the book that I found even high school friends and acquaintances coming out, reaching out, telling me, "Oh my gosh, I experienced the same thing," or, "I had no idea you were going through that in high school. So was I." People are left feeling even more alone in a situation like that. So as I said, I was born in Cleveland and I was raised as an only child, which is a very big piece of this book because of the ways that kind of complicates things. Especially because my parents had also divorced very soon before my dad got sick. Then I wound up as his main person, his caregiver. My dad was someone who was really adoring. He was an amazing dad in many ways, actually. You know, I still, I miss and love him every day. He died eleven years ago this month, actually. But he was also abusive. That's something we can talk about later on, but that's a really big issue to me, is for people to understand the multidimensionality of the abuser, and the fact that, by all accounts, I guess people would say I grew up in a loving home. I grew up getting to do a lot of cool things with my parents. My parents were very successful. All this kind of stuff. But there was also this other side behind closed doors—or not always behind closed doors because my dad also was an expert at public humiliation and stuff. It was a lot to manage. My parents also—and I think this is really interesting, some of the demographic issues and stuff—is my dad had me when he was forty-two years old, and my mom was about to be thirty-five. In 1969 those were really older parents. Most of my friends, their parents were much, much younger. So that meant when all this started with my dad being sick, I was catapulted into caregiving at a time where my friends' parents were playing tennis and golf and retiring and doing other cool things like traveling and stuff. There again, I was sort of alone in this process. They married late because it was a second marriage. They had me later. They got divorced very late in life. They were almost sixty-five and seventy-two. All of these dynamics, all of these demographic trends, if you will—It's actually funny how the book stands at the intersection of all of these trends. And we're seeing them more and more. We're seeing people having kids later. We're seeing people divorcing later. We're seeing people living longer. BLAIR HODGES: Right, and adult kids caregiving for their parents or parent. DEBORAH COHAN: Often while caring for their own children. Then the other thing I talk about is the living apart together, where I'm partnered with someone where we don't live together. My husband lives two hours away. When I wrote the book, I didn't think about all the ways in which my life is sitting at these intersections of demographic shifts and trends and stuff. But it is, and I think some of those are really important to the way the book unfolds and to the way I think about all this stuff. BLAIR HODGES: You do sit at intersections of a lot of things. Just to flesh it out a little bit more, too, I'll mention that, as you said, your family was upper middle class in Shaker Heights. You say you were Jewish-identified but your family wasn't affiliated or practicing. Your parents were politically progressive. Your mom was artistic, an abstract artist. Your father worked in advertising. He wrote the Hawaiian Punch song. Is this true? DEBORAH COHAN: The line, yes. "How would you like a nice Hawaiian Punch?" BLAIR HODGES: Yeah! DEBORAH COHAN: Isn't that wild? BLAIR HODGES: That really caught me off guard. [laughter] Your parents were also married and divorced before they got married. Your father had two children you never got to know, just from this different phase of his life. That also fills out this background. If you have a copy of the book there, I thought it would be nice to hear you read from the Introduction. The first page gives us a good picture of what's to come. Can you read that for us? DEBORAH COHAN: "When I first set out to write about my dad, I thought my book would only be filled with stories of his abuse, his rage, my own resulting rage and grief, and maybe even his grief as well. However, the writing process revealed other emotions. Things that surprised me, disgusted me, delighted me, and saddened me. At moments, I was glad to be reminded of all the love I still feel for my father and reassured of his love for me. “I've anguished over whether in my promise to tell about my father's abuse with integrity and honesty, the story would somehow be diminished by this other story of the great love we shared. It's only now that I see that the one seemingly pure story of his abuse is not even a pure story. And interestingly, I don't think the abuse is even the grittiest or rawest part of the story. “As it turns out, the story would be easier to tell if all I needed to do was report about all the times that my dad behaved badly. You might get angry with him. And you might even feel sorry for me. But that's not what I wanted out of this book. You need to also know and feel the love we shared, the way I felt it. And I still do. “The much harder story to tell is the one that unfolds in these pages. It's the story of ambivalence, of what it means to stand on the precipice of both love and fear, and what it means to navigate between forgiveness and blame, care and disregard, resilience and despair." HIMPATHY (11:37) BLAIR HODGES: Thank you. A couple of things come to mind as I'm reading that. First of all, I wondered if you were presenting yourself as an exemplary type of person who'd experienced abuse. As it turns out, throughout the book, you don't. You don't set yourself forward as "everyone should process abuse the way I did." You don't expect people who have been abused to be forgiving, or to seek all of that. I want to let people know that right off the top. I did want to talk about Kate Manne's idea of "himpathy," because that's what came to mind here at the opening of your book before I knew what was coming. Himpathy as I understand it is this idea of extending sympathy to men who are doing crappy stuff, basically. The guy's the problem, but we tend to side with the guy or try to get inside his heart or his head and extend sympathy to someone who's done terrible things. You have a background of working with these domestic violence survivors and perpetrators. So I just wondered about your thoughts on that idea of himpathy, and how you negotiate with that as you think about your own relationship with your dad and as you were writing this book. DEBORAH COHAN: I have to admit I have not heard of that word or that theory. That would be interesting to read more about. I certainly did worry about that a bit. Here I am, trained in feminist sociology, and have done all this work, and it's almost like I didn't want to let people down or something, or didn't want to seem like I was giving him a pass, so to speak. BLAIR HODGES: Right. DEBORAH COHAN: I also had to write it in that authentic way I feel I did, and just realize the much more nuanced approach is actually the approach I took—which is that no one is purely one thing or another. Neither am I. I come out as pretty flawed in the book too, which I'm glad about because it's the “no one's perfect” thing. I think there are certainly people who might read the book who might say, "Oh, my gosh, I would never still love my dad," or, "I would have stopped talking to him," or "F– you" kind of stuff. I don't know. To me that would be too easy. I think the harder piece is to deal with that ambivalence. And as you say, it's not right for everyone and it's totally dependent on different people's situations. I also think, for some people, it's like some readers have told me, it's very valuable to have gotten to juggle both, so they can see how to juggle both themselves. It's not really that rare that someone who's been hurt by someone still wants a relationship with them. I guess the real essence of dealing with an abusive relationship is you want the abuse to stop but you want the relationship to continue. BLAIR HODGES: You “love” the person. DEBORAH COHAN: Yeah. We see that with sexual abuse survivors a lot. There's a lot of research on that. It's complicated. It makes me want to read about this "himpathy" piece. BLAIR HODGES: Look up himpathy. It's this sympathy for men, basically. DEBORAH COHAN: She's critical of it. Obviously. BLAIR HODGES: She's critical, but it's very thoughtful. It resonates well with what you present in your book, which is, you're not giving your dad a pass or excusing his behavior, you're just also recognizing the ways you loved him and why. That's different than saying, "You know what, actually the abuse was okay," or even, "The abuse was maybe beneficial or maybe deserved." Or that all your attention would be focused on protecting your father's reputation, rather than talking about what the relationship really was and processing your feelings for other people to kind of witness and maybe go alongside with you. I think it's helpful. DEBORAH COHAN: Yeah. If I grew up in the home my dad grew up in maybe I wouldn't have done anything different either. So it's really hard truths to reconcile, but I think they're really important. WHAT HE DID (15:31) BLAIR HODGES: It's important to think about individual responsibility, but also context. Sometimes it's easier to offload our anxiety that stuff like this happens by just demonizing an individual person. I want to be a strong proponent of justice and of attending to the person who has been abused first and foremost. I think their experience really needs to be attended to. I think if we just demonize an individual person, it excuses the ways we participate in a society that can facilitate stuff like that, basically. DEBORAH COHAN: Exactly. BLAIR HODGES: They're really bad. I can kind of overlook the crappy ways I treat people because here are these evil enemies over here I can identify as the bad people and not think about the ways I might be implicated. It's complicated, though. It's complicated. DEBORAH COHAN: Right. BLAIR HODGES: Let's talk about some abuse examples from your father. You say he was financially generous, but he was also financially controlling. You've seen this dynamic in other families. There comes this moment early on where he makes this comment to you. He says, "You'd make my life a lot easier if you'd just commit suicide." It seems like he wasn't saying that as a joke. It comes across as though he just said this to you as a matter of fact. DEBORAH COHAN: Yes, that was in the context of something that was financially abusive and controlling. It's so interesting to hear that comment restated to me, and I've heard it so many times since the book came out. It was even really startling the first time I saw it on the jacket of the book, and then it's on Amazon. It's like people glom on to it because it's so over the top for a parent to say that to a kid, or in this case a young adult woman, because I was in my twenties. I think that's the comment that makes people say, "Oh, I could never have cared for him. I could have never had a relationship with him." There is something odd about hearing it back and realizing that in a way, at the time, it was really upsetting but it almost—I guess like so many other acts of abuse, things get minimized or forgotten or denied. It's interesting to think of probably how soon after I still was able to talk to him or willing to engage with him, that sort of thing. And at the same time, I wouldn't really tolerate that. It's just one of those things where it's very hard to describe how I know that comment is so searing to readers and anybody hearing it. It's just so disturbing. At the same time, it's such a good example, though, of how his feelings were the priority, as is true in abusive relationships. Where it's like the abuser is so focused on their feelings and the other person's actions. It was such a prime example of where he completely distorted what I was saying and where I was trying to do something that could be helpful—to find out something about insurance and his financial contribution with stuff, and he just jumped into me verbally with this accusation and assuming the worst of me. In a sense, what I would want people hearing this to understand is not just the intensity of what he said, but how it encapsulates so many different pieces related to abuse. Like the threats, the focus on his feelings and my behavior. All of this. The assuming the worst of me is really the key piece of this. BLAIR HODGES: This is the kind of abuse you experienced, this verbal assault. You even say your father never actually hit you, physical abuse, but you did always have the perception he could. There was always a sense that he might, and you say that was its own sort of terror that can give a person trauma. DEBORAH COHAN: Oh, for sure. Because somebody who says something that vicious and cruel and brutal: "My life would be easier if you commit suicide." It is a slap in the face. It is a punch in the gut. It is all of those things, kind of metaphorically. I mean, this is why I think it's so crucial and I always try to encourage my students, and I talked about this with violent offenders, is to not create a hierarchy of what sort of abuse is worse than another. Because right, it's true. He did not pull my hair or spit on me or punch me or throw me against a wall or strangle me or any of these awful things that happen. But the threat of violence, the constant berating, the criticizing, the defining of reality—when someone says something like that to you, what are you supposed to say? I mean, there's no way to respond. It was his ability to try to exert that level of power and control, and that level of silencing me, and putting me in my place in this way. Those are some of the core defining features of abuse. BLAIR HODGES: I learned a lot more about abuse and seeing these patterns of abuse—for example, you talked about how maybe you would be together during a trip and he would freak out. He would scream and swear at you publicly. So not only did it hurt you because your dad's treating you that way, but also, it's embarrassing and other people are witnessing this, which compounds the hurt. This would happen during a trip where he was visiting. Then at the end of the trip you say he had this tactic of minimizing and mutualizing. Talk about the tactic, what that looks like to minimize and mutualize after an assault like that. DEBORAH COHAN: It's comments like, "It's not so bad," or, "Didn't we have a fun time?" Or glomming onto the parts that were fun. “Wasn't that wonderful when we saw the Lion King?” Or, “Wasn't that amazing when we ate at this restaurant?” By highlighting the goodies it forced me—again, it's part of his defining reality, but then it made me have to think, “Oh, that stuff was really nice. That was good. So maybe that's not so bad, the other stuff.” BLAIR HODGES: It doesn't feel like he was really asking, either. It seems like what's happened here is control. He needs to control the story. He's not really looking for your input about how you felt about everything, but really telling you, “By the way, this trip was awesome, you better think it was and if you don't, there's a problem with you.” DEBORAH COHAN: Not just that there's a problem with you, but also that you're insatiable and that you— BLAIR HODGES: That you deserve my yelling and stuff? DEBORAH COHAN: Or nothing I do for you is ever good enough. Then it turns into I'm not grateful enough, which was a huge part of the narrative. **WHEN REDEMPTION ISN'T FORGIVENESS (22:16) BLAIR HODGES: As we said before, this isn't a book of forgiveness for your father. You do repeatedly express your love for him and describe to the reader where that love comes from or what it looks like. But you're saying there's a sense in which you want some redemption for that relationship, but not necessarily forgiveness. That was an interesting distinction I'd never thought about before. Talk about how you see those two things of seeking some kind of redemption versus just forgiveness. DEBORAH COHAN: I love that question because so often people still conclude I've totally forgiven him and then decide, "Oh, I'm not sure I could forgive him." Like I talk about in the book, forgiveness is a bit overrated. As someone who does not identify religiously, forgiveness feels far too rooted in notions of religion. I'm not totally comfortable with that. I mean, I think the redemption is more that now I'm fifty-three years old, I understand people like my parents did the best they could with what they had at the time they did it. So I have more sort of acceptance of the multidimensionality of my parents in a way, and I think their deaths—because my mom has died also—their deaths helped to do that, even though that was something I dreaded for so long. But then it turns out there's something about it now, that I can see the full humanity of both of them in a way that maybe it was harder to see when they were alive. The other piece of the forgiveness thing is that in working with abusers, I remember working with a counselor. We were co-facilitating a group one evening and he was pushing this abuser, really holding him accountable. He kept saying to him, "What are you sorry for, who are you sorry for?" It was like, "Who are the tears for?" Really trying to get this guy to see he still didn't really seem like he was apologetic, really truly remorseful. That it was more about his own saving face. So I guess the reason full forgiveness still feels hard for me is my dad and I never had that full, totally open, me totally exposing all of my thoughts on this, kind if conversation, maybe over a period of months and years, where I could come to that, or where he asked for it in a way that I could give that to him. So I feel the most we can do here is redemption. BLAIR HODGES: How do you define that then? What is that redemption? DEBORAH COHAN: I feel like it's maybe that acceptance of all that imperfection and all the flaw and all the limitations and things, and that there are still these redeeming aspects of him as a man in the world, of him as a father, of him in my life. I mean, I guess I couldn't have the level of loving and missing him every day without that level of some redemption. And then some people have asked me, "Well, it does sound like you forgive him, though." It's almost like people just want to use that word so much— BLAIR HODGES: I feel tempted to that question, too. I wanted to say it's sort of a “brand” or a “genre” of forgiveness or something. [laughs] DEBORAH COHAN: Exactly. It's so interesting, though. I was friends with a couple. The woman has died and the man is much, much older. He's probably in his nineties now. Their daughter was murdered by their son-in-law. I had them speak at my classes and they were often asked, "Do you forgive the son-in-law?" Shirley, the mother, would always say, "No, and he never did anything to ask for it. He really never apologized. There was no authentic anything that would have warranted it and he never really accepted enough responsibility for forgiveness to be possible." I guess I'm still kind of at that piece. BLAIR HODGES: That's a forgiveness that seems like it has to be mutual, like the other person who hurt you needs to get inside your story, show they understand it, and make some kind of reparation or connection there. And for that kind of forgiveness to happen, yeah, you have to have the other— I think what people might be thinking when they suggest you have forgiven is the sense that you still find good in your dad. You love him. But there's also, as you say, there's always that disconnect that's a result of the years of abuse, you can't fully reconcile because reconciliation requires both people to be involved with it. And so it's just not possible. That kind of forgiveness has to be mutual. The other person has to be involved for that forgiveness to even work, I guess. DEBORAH COHAN: Yeah, that it's more of a process. It, like the abuse, is not just an episode or an instance or a moment. It's much larger. One of the things that's difficult is my dad seemed to have in certain ways, he softened and almost showed me the possibilities of redemption once he was quite ill. Once he was very needy and dependent. He was in a nursing home, and that's when towards the end of the book he's telling me about his experience growing up and his father being abusive to his mother and witnessing it and thinking it was an outrageous thing. And his empathy went to his mother as a child. Yet he still reproduced this as an adult. But here was a man with dementia and he was totally immobile, and by then incontinent and all these other things. It was just—That wasn't the time to start digging into our relationship. But had he told me all that and had we been able to have that conversation when he was well, I don't even know if that would have been possible. Had that happened, had he been able to show me more, really that actions speak louder than words, really show me in a consistent, meaningful, trustworthy way, "Deb, I can't believe I did that to you." Really showing me through living out life with me that he would never do it again. But we never got there. FAMILY DYNAMICS WITH MOM (28:50) BLAIR HODGES: It was thirteen years before he died—eight of those years, he was very sick in these care facilities. You say you were lodged in an uncomfortably intimate relationship with him, as you mentioned, because you were an adult child of divorce. The family dynamic you grew up with was one where you trended toward being closer to your dad. I think there was probably a protective element to that. Your mom felt sort of sidelined. You really paint a compelling picture of why the divorce happened later on, the way your mom was sidelined, the way your family was this triangle that you felt pressured to make feel whole, which is something no child should have to reckon with. But then later on when they get this divorce, here's a quote from you, "During the years I cared for my dad, my mom's absence felt like a death." I realized, Deborah, how hard that must have been to basically be the only one who could really care for your dad during those eight years because your mom was gone. You're an only child of these divorced parents. DEBORAH COHAN: She kind of would accuse me of being angry at her for leaving. She would say that somehow I thought it was her responsibility to stay. She could tell it was really hard for me. In a certain way, though, she was very compassionate at times about what I was dealt with in those moments. Then there were other times in which she, as I say, almost accused me of being angry about it. Which is a whole other piece. BLAIR HODGES: Was that like a “They protest too much” kind of thing? It seems you were in some senses abandoned to care for him. I'm not suggesting that your mom shouldn't have gotten a divorce or anything. But their child is involved. You were stuck with handling that. It seems like a lot for a child in a family, even though you were a grown up at this point, to manage by yourself. I wonder if she worried if you resented it. It seems like— DEBORAH COHAN: Absolutely. She didn't just worry about it, she accused me of it! [laughs]. And then it was a little confusing. BLAIR HODGES: But did you feel that resentment? Was her charge valid? DEBORAH COHAN: That's a really good question, because I teach this book now in my class, and it's very interesting how I ask my students if they find my mom to be a sympathetic character. The reality is, I guess she is and she isn't. There are a lot of people who come to the conclusion, a little bit what you were just alluding to, of I should not have been left like that. It's kind of like my mom did something wrong, that I got stuck with all of this. What's interesting is, the book came out in 2020. My mom died a few months later. Here I am teaching the book. I can't have this conversation with my mother, which I would really like to have, which is, "Oh my gosh, if only you could hear all the ways in which I stand up for you." You know what I mean? I constantly am saying to students, "No, I don't blame my mom for leaving." In some ways I just wish she had left sooner, so they could have each had their new lease on life. To me it feels very sad that she did this at close to sixty-five and he was seventy-two. I'm not sure what else could have been done, though. I wouldn't expect people to stay in a marriage that isn't good or healthy for them. I can't fault my mom for leaving. It's more, I wish she had been able to do it earlier and I know I was probably part of the reason she didn't, which is a hard thing to deal with at the same time. BLAIR HODGES: Would you resist it if I said something like, “I wish your mom had tried and pitched in a little bit to take some of the pressure off?” DEBORAH COHAN: No, I think that's true. She did in certain ways, but she couldn't in other ways. From a legal standpoint, all this financial stuff, everything. She was certainly financially generous in her own way later and about other stuff. It might have been helpful had she just said, "Gosh, I see you're going to Cleveland again." I wasn't taking trips and doing really great stuff. I was going to Cleveland many times from Boston as I was in graduate school, as I was adjuncting, and teaching in different places, and commuting to Connecticut. I wish in those moments instead of just taking me out to dinner or—because she was living on Cape Cod by then so we were living much closer together. It might have been nice if she had just said, "I'll buy the airline ticket," or, "Let me make the reservation for you at the hotel," or whatever it was. That might have lessened the burden. Although, she did in other ways because then she might have helped fund something else I did need. It was just a very difficult time. AT THE NURSING HOME (33:54) BLAIR HODGES: That is helpful. I didn't have hard feelings toward your mom, I just wondered a little bit about— As you said, your mom was still alive when you were finishing this. It makes sense that some of that stuff couldn't have been processed yet. So that's helpful. I think people that pick up a copy of the book and check it out, that's a really great supplement to it. I'm glad to hear you can talk to people about that as you teach the book, too. The book we're talking about, by the way, again, is called Welcome to Wherever We Are: A Memoir of Family, Caregiving, and Redemption. It's written by Deborah J. Cohan, who is professor of sociology at the University of South Carolina Beaufort. You mentioned this a minute ago—finances. You basically witnessed your father's finances completely collapse. This is something a lot of people are experiencing and will probably be experiencing more and more because the social safety net in the United States is not great, but he went from a sharp dressing, fancy food enjoying ad executive to this man in filthy sweatpants sitting in this dilapidated care facility, living on Medicaid. And he ended up dying with about fifty dollars to his name. So you witness over the time he was there, his complete impoverishment. DEBORAH COHAN: Yeah and also I think that's some of the redemption for him too, is just knowing if he was aware of what was left at the end, and what happened—I mean, his dream would have been to leave me with more to pay off my student loan debt, you know, all that kind of stuff. He would have been ashamed and humiliated in many of the ways that breadwinning and masculinity are so entangled with each other. BLAIR HODGES: Ah, that reminds me, there's an excerpt I thought you might read on page twenty-seven. You actually take us to the nursing home with some stories about what it was like when you visited him. It's that middle paragraph there. If you could read that excerpt—it's a list but wow, it certainly evokes experiences I've had. DEBORAH COHAN: "The nursing home: paved driveway. Automatic doors. Cigarette butts. Patients waiting for the next distribution of cigarettes. Orange sherbet and ginger ale and Saulsbury steak. Sticky floors. Dusty roads. Vinyl recliners. Bed pans. Bingo and sing-alongs. Stashes of adult diapers in the closets and drawers. Motorized wheelchairs. Schedules. Forms. Nursing aides and personal attendants. Styrofoam cups. Stale urine. Plastic water pitchers and bendable straws. Hospital beds. Dark, dingy rooms. A small rod for hanging clothes. Non-skid socks. No privacy. Open, unlocked rooms filled with demented wanderers. Whiteboards with washable markers stating the day of the week and the nurse on duty. Dead plants. Almost-dead people. Harsh overhead lighting and overheated rooms. Not enough real light. Tables that roll across beds for getting fed. Call bells and strings to pull in the bathroom. Air that doesn't move." BLAIR HODGES: The stories you tell there, Deborah, visiting there seemed really hard for you, let alone what it must have been like to live there. You felt such ambivalence about it. Because you say you almost couldn't stand being there at the moment, but you also would get really distraught about leaving there. DEBORAH COHAN: Absolutely, yes. And thanks for having me read that piece, by the way, because it's been so long since I've actually read it. It takes me back to the room also. The ambivalence showed up in so many different ways. I think that's so true of people who are visiting people who are frail and dying, or very ill. This sense of, you want to go, like I would be in Boston, I would want to go so badly. I would want to see him. I would want to give him a big hug. I would want to finally bring him food he craved or food that was a special treat instead of some of the things I listed in that piece. Then I would get there. It was like, “Oh, gosh.” I just wanted to flee. I walked in and it was just the chaos and the bureaucracy and just the antiseptic but actually filthy quality of these places that I illuminate in that piece. Then the guilt that totally seeped in in that moment, because then it was like, "Wait, I got here. I'm here. I'm supposed to want to be with him. I'm supposed to want to stay,” and now I'm counting down the time. It's sort of like, "Oh my gosh, I've been here twenty minutes. It feels like four hours." Then when I'd leave it was almost like that, "Oh, but I spent three hours," almost like I did good time or something. BLAIR HODGES: A Herculean effort just to get through the three hours. DEBORAH COHAN: Yeah, and time is strange in a nursing home also, as it is in a hospital. People are motivated by the mealtimes. The newspaper delivery is listed as an activity at the place. These things that are just mundane activities in my life or your life, they become these big events at these nursing homes in ways that, when you're there and you're witnessing that, and you're well, it's really hard to watch and to do time the way that they're doing time. BLAIR HODGES: On a bigger scale, too, the cycle that would happen. So you talk about how there would be a medical crisis, things would seem really bad, but then he would kind of rally, show some resilience, kind of recover for a bit, you'd get a little bit of hope, and then it would crash again. And this cycle kept happening. It reminds me of this paragraph I highlighted here. You say, "Perhaps many adult children caring for dying parents deal with this dilemma. How much to let the parent in. How much to keep the parent at bay. It's hard to get that close to almost-death, to anticipatory grief, and when an abusive history is part of it, that push/pull with how to have healthy emotional closeness and distance becomes that much more intensified." You're talking about the already complicated dynamics and then you add the layer of abuse into it, which makes it all the more complicated. DEBORAH COHAN: I appreciate you did such a close good reading of it, because I don't know that everybody picks up some of the pieces and the nuances and especially the contradictory realities that are present. I really appreciate that and what you've read and shared and asked and are revealing to the audience. That's just the hardest part of all, is reconciling those pieces. Okay, I spent most of my childhood really worried my parents would die or my parents would get divorced. As an only child, those two things felt incredibly scary, that I would lose one or both of them, or that they would get divorced. It kind of haunted me up until they died, really. And my dad, like any one of the things he suffered from people die from pretty easily. You know, he had an aneurysm. He had a heart attack. He had diabetes. He had so many different things— BLAIR HODGES:  —He had dementia, yeah. DEBORAH COHAN: Yeah. And then at the same time, though, he kept—like you're saying—bouncing back. It was like the Energizer Bunny. It was like nothing's going to get this guy. In a way that's an interesting parallel with the abuse. It was almost like, unstoppable. It was the sense of like, he could be abusive and then quick fix, make it up. Apologize, be really sweet and kind, and then do it again. But it's like… BLAIR HODGES: Another kind of cycle. DEBORAH COHAN: Yeah, another cycle. And also the cycle of vulnerability coupled with this omnipotence. That was present when he was ill. Like he was totally vulnerable. There was a time in 2006, I think it was, where I really thought he was going to die. There was no doubt. It just felt like this is imminent now. He was hallucinating and all these other things. He didn't die for six more years! And between those six years he moved to different nursing homes, basically, because of bad behavior. But it reminds me of those inflatable dolls, or those inflatable things on lawns. BLAIR HODGES: Like outside the car dealership thing? DEBORAH COHAN: Like you hit it and it keeps coming back. BLAIR HODGES: Oh, yeah. It falls and then pops back up. DEBORAH COHAN: And it'll keep standing, exactly. And that was my dad in everything. BUTTERFLY EFFECT FIXATION (42:54) BLAIR HODGES: You say nothing could really prepare you for that. There was this moment when he falls at the Cleveland airport, you kind of pinpoint this as a turning point for him, where he seems to be in relatively good health, but he fell and broke his hip. You were involved in that trip too. You carried these feelings about that. DEBORAH COHAN: Absolutely. BLAIR HODGES: You were worried he was about to die then, and you weren't ready. Then again, you were less prepared for what ended up happening, which was years of this cycle of health crises and then recoveries. Nothing could have prepared you for that. DEBORAH COHAN: And the reality is you're never ready. It's almost like you can know what's happening. He was never going to get better. But I also didn't think he was going to die three days before I started my new job in South Carolina, three weeks after I moved here, after just being divorced myself. I didn't really, it was like, “That was interesting timing, Dad.” [laughs] But you just said something that was really interesting and reminds me of the passage I just read from being in the nursing home, and it relates to the moment he fell. So when my dad fell at the airport, he was going there in a limo, being dropped off, got out of the car and fell on ice in Cleveland at the airport. My friend, who's now, I mean he's ex-husband, Mark, he and I were heading to Cleveland to meet my dad to then go to Florida. BLAIR HODGES: With him. DEBORAH COHAN: With him. It was supposed to be this vacation. My dad had packed his red suitcase, and it turns out that red suitcase, which is also featured in the book, that thing was screaming at me every time I would go and visit him in a nursing home. I don't know why I didn't think to trash it. Maybe because I kept hoping we would get to pack it and he could go home. But like, honestly, that suitcase was just—it was like a bully, you know?  It was this sense of like—it was taunting because I felt, and I still kind of do, if my dad wasn't taking us to Florida, he wouldn't have fallen on ice at the airport and he wouldn't have broken his hip, and then he wouldn't have—then his whole life wouldn't have come tumbling down with it. BLAIR HODGES: Butterfly effect moment, right? DEBORAH COHAN: Yeah. But at the same time, that's sort of abuse survivor logic. BLAIR HODGES: Oh, you're putting it on you. DEBORAH COHAN: Yeah, like if I hadn't have done this, he wouldn't have done that to me. Or if I had done this, he definitely would have behaved differently and then I wouldn't have been told “I wish you'd commit suicide” or something. It's interesting how even in a moment like that, that has really nothing to do with abuse, the psyche that's been dealing with abuse and those dynamics, is still contaminated by that. There was still that sense of, “God, if only we hadn't gone to Florida! If only we hadn't made that trip!” And the reality is, I was actually very tentative about wanting to go on that trip. My dad really wanted this for us. He really wanted the three of us to go and have this wonderful time and be at this resort. And I was haunted by some of my memories of my dad on trips. I didn't want to deal with that with my husband at the time. BLAIR HODGES: Right. DEBORAH COHAN: And then I also dealt with the guilt and the shame around not really wanting the trip. And then he actually—his whole life tumbled down as a result of a trip he really wanted that I didn't want because I wasn't grateful enough. So it did this whole thing. I mean, I can still feel it. BLAIR HODGES: It recurs. You bring it up throughout the book. This Cleveland airport is a recurring moment you keep going back to. DEBORAH COHAN: Yes. And then isn't it wild that I got the news of his death at a different airport— BLAIR HODGES: Right! DEBORAH COHAN: —as I was about to board a plane to go and see him for the last time, which at that time really I knew was the last time because they called me to pretty much tell me that earlier in the day. So I arranged to leave that evening, and then missed it. Again, at the time it was like, “Oh my gosh, you're such a screw up! You can't even get to see him when…” It was just this… BLAIR HODGES: The reflex of self-blame. DEBORAH COHAN: Criticism, yes. I had internalized that so much, and so it was a process to try to realize like, no. My dad could have fallen anywhere. Something else could have happened. Because of course something else would have happened. But it was so hard to see in that moment. ONE LITTLE EXTRA SOMETHING (47:49) BLAIR HODGES: This reminds me the ways you're very confessional and vulnerable yourself in the book. This isn't a book about Deborah Cohan the hero who cared for her dying father. This is a book of Deborah Cohan who's wrestling with the ambiguity of being someone who experienced abuse, who has really hard feelings about that, and who also has feelings of love. But there was, I think one of the most arresting— Well I probably shouldn't try to qualify it. To me, the most arresting moment in the book is when you're listing all the medications he's taking on any given day when he's in a care facility. There's Ambien, Glucotrol, amoxicillin, mycelium, and even more. You see this one-month pharmacy bill that added up to twelve hundred dollars. Then you add this startling line. You say, "One extra little something slipped into this whole mess would be untraceable." This is one of the darkest thoughts a caregiver might experience, but you're not the only caregiver who I've heard talk about this. So I wanted to spend a little bit of time there about what it was like confessing that, talking about that in your book. DEBORAH COHAN: Yeah, I certainly—I hope it's understood in the book that it wasn't about revenge. BLAIR HODGES: Right. DEBORAH COHAN: It wasn't like because of that moment when my dad thought his life would be easier if I committed suicide that I want to somehow poison him or kill him. It was this very deep in my bones feeling of, “No one should have to live this way.” BLAIR HODGES: It was, you were witnessing suffering. And your brain was like what can we do for this? DEBORAH COHAN: To stop it, yes. My parents, as I said, and you identified it as well, they were very progressive. And I still remember conversations when I was growing up where my dad would say, "If that ends up happening to me—” like, you know, he would talk about people who— BLAIR HODGES: Right. “I don't want to live like that." DEBORAH COHAN: “I don't wanna live like that. Just kill me. Do something.” So I think even he would have been compassionate and understanding to the thought I had. But what's also interesting that you didn't reveal in your question though is, when I revealed it to myself, I was also telling it to my husband at the time, who thought I was just totally crazy for thinking it, for saying it. It was almost like I should be ashamed of myself. And then there I go, retelling the whole thing in the book. So I wasn't, I really never wound up being so ashamed of it. It was more the sense of the absolute desperation a caregiver feels. The absolute helplessness to stop the suffering and to also stop witnessing it, too! It was like, how much longer can we all go on like this? It was sort of like this is an untenable situation. BLAIR HODGES: Yeah, this wasn't a revenge plot. DEBORAH COHAN: Absolutely not. BLAIR HODGES: This was a desperate moment of trying to figure out how to make the suffering end. I mean, you talk about how caregiving amplified your childhood instincts, your hyper-responsibility and hyper-vigilance, and what toll that could take on you over a number of years. What was it like being hyper-vigilant, hyper-responsible about your father? DEBORAH COHAN: Well you almost alluded to it in the list of the medications. I was carrying around like, a file box in my car with all sorts of information about his health, with all sorts of papers, with duplicate copies of things, because I don't want to be caught off guard, not prepared. If someone calls me, I want to have it all ready. I always had pen and paper with me. Yeah, it's true that there's a hyper-vigilance that happens when someone's experiencing an abusive relationship or witnessing abuse. That sense of being on guard, of trying to have every base covered. That sort of thing. BLAIR HODGES: Be blameless, really. DEBORAH COHAN: Yeah, you know I did that, I extended that into caregiving. I made a list of—I mean, it was sort of crazy, but I did—I sent a copy to my mother, I sent a copy to the nursing home, I sent a copy everywhere. And actually it was when he lived at home, before that, where I had something on the refrigerator that had his social security number, all of his information—like the drugs he takes, his health history, the dates of surgeries—so that any of the nurses caring for him in his home could see that, could know what was going on, could assist. BLAIR HODGES: You were also on call all the time, expecting any phone call. It seemed like you were just tied to your phone in case there was a phone call that would come in. DEBORAH COHAN: Right. And when he died, I talk about how that night after talking with my friend for hours on my couch, afterwards then I just go and I turn off the phone. And I've done that every single night since. I never leave my phone on. BLAIR HODGES: Right! From that point on. DEBORAH COHAN: It's like he'll call me at three or four in the morning. If I'm up, I'll answer, if I'm not— I could be called at any moment about anything and there was just no boundaries on it. Because again, it's the sense of they have to for different liability reasons, but I was being called about anything and everything. DOES THE CHILD BECOME THE PARENT (53:22) BLAIR HODGES: It took up mental and emotional space twenty-four hours a day. And as you watched all these losses pile up—he stopped being able to drive, he stopped being able to walk, he stopped being able to write, then read, then feed himself, then he lost control of his bladder, he couldn't think straight, he couldn't remember. The dementia took over. And you tell us about a friend of yours called Julie. She's a geriatric care specialist. You said she's actually not comfortable when she hears people talking about a role reversal in this situation. It's common for people to say the child becomes the parent and the parent becomes like the child. You're doing a lot of the same things. They're helping feed them, they probably wear diapers, there's all these things going on. You say Julie is not comfortable with that comparison. But you kind of disagree with her. I wanted to hear your thoughts about where Julie's coming from and how you see it. DEBORAH COHAN: Well I mean, she was so compassionate to me about my dad and about all that has happened. In fact, I remember saying to her, I'm going to be using your name, if you don't want me to use it, I can give you a pseudonym. BLAIR HODGES: It's the risk of being friends with a writer. [laughter] DEBORAH COHAN: Exactly! But I mean, nobody's really talked about in a singularly bad way in the book. Not even my dad. So with Julie I think that's a common thing in gerontology, in her field, is the sense of empowering the person who is being cared for. BLAIR HODGES: Conferring dignity. If you say they're like children that's undignified or that's demeaning. DEBORAH COHAN: Exactly. And that's why these nursing homes will ask families to post pictures of when the person was younger and more robust and vibrant on the door or in the entrance to the room, so when people are going in to see the patient they're also reminded, “Oh, this is really who I'm seeing. I'm not just seeing this person who's only weak and sick and vulnerable.” But you know what's interesting to me about that is I felt that a lot with my father. I felt like I wanted to just scream to [laughs] anybody who would listen or any of the nurses or anyone, this isn't really my dad! This is my dad! Kind of asserting the strengths and the brilliance he did have. At the same time, though, it was very hard for me to give that credit to other people, you know? [laughs] So when I would see other residents who were really bad off, I had a hard time thinking about them in their prior phases of their life. I think that's just something caregivers struggle with. I certainly wasn't unique in that. BLAIR HODGES: Sure, and I'm sympathetic to Julie in the sense of conferring dignity and being mindful of this person as a person worthy of concern and care and not infantilizing people. But you also say, when you're feeding your dad and he's spitting up down his shirt and all these things, you can't help but feel like that role has been reversed. I'd like to find a way to both dignify and honor the parent, and also validate and recognize the experience of the child who is now being a caregiver. I think both things are possible. DEBORAH COHAN: That's why when I talk about feeding my dad birthday cake, there's this point where I talk about it as like a terrible beauty in feeding a parent. That gets at that to me. Again, the ambivalence, the contradictory reality, the sense that we should be there in a certain way. They did this for us. We should do this for them with no sense of negativity. At the same time, this is not really how it was supposed to go. BLAIR HODGES: There was no rehearsal for it, too, for you. You were just there. The cupcake was there. And here you are, you're feeding your dad. DEBORAH COHAN: And he wouldn't have wanted that. The last thing he would have wanted was to have me feed him, I mean oh my gosh. LETTER TO DADDY (57:34) BLAIR HODGES: There's one more excerpt I'd like to hear you read here. You wrote some of this book in your dad's presence there at the nursing home when he would be asleep, and you were at his side. This is on page one 142. You wrote to him in that moment in 2009. If you can read it. DEBORAH COHAN: Sure. It's just funny. I'm laughing only because I feel like I have that page memorized. I have actually read this piece quite a bit when I've spoken about the book. It does feel like a really evocative passage, and not because it talks about his abuse at all, but also because of the writerly technique that I used in it of taking almost like field notes that I wound up using. It's exactly the same, I didn't change anything. But I didn't know I was writing a book at that moment either. "I watch you as you sleep, not unlike you probably watched me as I slept as a newborn baby and as a young girl, and wonder, in awe, in calm, and in worry. A parent watches a child sleep with anticipation of a future. An adult child watches a sick parent sleep with a sense of the past. You are finally still and quiet. You, a man who I know is chaotic and loud. We rest in this calm as you fall in and out of slumber and I grade papers. I need to study your face, memorize it, because I know I'll need it one day. Yet the you now is not the you I want to remember. “In a few days, I'll be back with over a hundred students, giving lectures, attending meetings, going to a concert, a lunch with a friend, a performance of The Vagina Monologues. And in my week ahead, I worry about being too busy, about running from one activity to the next, breathless. “Yet one day, Daddy, you did this too, right? How would you restructure those days now? What did you hope for? What do you look for now? You look tired, though I can't tell if you're tired of this life. Yesterday I brought you coffee from Caribou with one of their napkins that made a jab at Starbucks that said, 'Our coffee is smooth and fresh because burnt and bitter were already taken.' Whenever I see great lines and logos I think of you. Your creativity still shines through as we leaf through metropolitan home and marvel at minimalist spaces. Your stained sweatpants are pulled up halfway toward your chest and your stomach looks distended. “Earlier today I saw as you put imaginary pills to your mouth with your fingers, something I assume to be a self-soothing ritual you performed after the nurse told you it was not yet time for more medication. Being in Cleveland, I'm surrounded by childhood friends hanging out with their dads, younger men than you in their sixties and early seventies. Robust, athletic, energetic men vigorously playing tennis and golf, working, traveling and chasing after their dreams, not figments of their imaginations in thin air. “Oh, Daddy. Your eyes open suddenly, and you ask, ‘What are you writing?' I quickly respond, ‘Oh, nothing really, it's just for school.'" LATE-STAGE CONFRONTATIONS (1:01:06) BLAIR HODGES: That's Deborah Cohan, professor of sociology at the University of South Carolina Beaufort. She earned her PhD in Sociology and a Joint Master of Arts in Women's Studies and Sociology at Brandeis University. That excerpt is from her book, Welcome to Wherever We Are: A Memoir of Family, Caregiving, and Redemption. You mentioned a little bit about this already, Deborah, but maybe just take one moment and talk about the ways your father maybe tried to reckon with the abusive dynamics of your relationship later in life. If there was any indication that he came to regret how he treated you. You talk about, for example, when he tried to volunteer at a domestic violence clinic. Even in that context, it didn't really come up. It doesn't sound like you had many opportunities, or that you felt safe enough or whatever, to straightforwardly confront him and say this was an abusive situation. DEBORAH COHAN: I certainly tried. There was a time when I was doing the abuse intervention work and I was working late into the night and our groups ran from 8pm to 10pm, after men had worked their jobs and then came to this program, and then I was leaving Cambridge—This was when I was in Boston, and leaving late at night, 10:30, 11 o'clock, and walking into a parking lot by myself and driving home. And I remember this one day my dad and I were on the phone, he was so concerned for my safety. It really upset him that I was doing this, and doing it late. And I did in that moment really try to question his fear and to try to help him understand, though it didn't really work, but to really try to say, ‘Dad, the things that these guys do are no different than things you've done. I'm not afraid of them. That was not an issue for me.' I guess he didn't want to also see me driving around late at night. But the reality is had I been afraid I wouldn't have been an effective counselor for these guys either. I had to try to help my dad understand that I was working with them in as fearless and compassionate a way as possible, but I guess in that moment I also felt fearless and compassionate in the conversation with him, of trying to say, ‘Dad, you're labeling these guys as monsters, as demons. And actually, your behavior is on a continuum with theirs.' And that's disturbing to hear from your daughter, obviously. But it was important for me to say. So I'm really glad I had a moment to tell him that. It didn't lead to a very productive conversation because he, like many men in the program, still wanted to minimize aspects of their behavior or rationalize it, or it was like this—"But Deb, I never hit you. Deb, I never did this. I never did that. Like that would be horrifying. But what I did wasn't as bad." I didn't really let him get away with that, and that's another reason why, for me, writing this book was critical. Because there really is not enough out there to highlight the damage of verbal and emotional and psychological abuse and threats. There's so much out there around physical abuse, and also sexual abuse. Movies and books and things like that. And those are really important cultural documents we have in the world. But the thing that also has happened is, people don't understand enough about the damage of the emotional abuse and the verbal abuse. And as a result, with so much less written about it, I really felt this tremendous ethical responsibility to write the book. SEE YOU AROUND (1:05:06) BLAIR HODGES: You talk about how much your dad is still with you. You close the book by saying you see him in so much of life. I wondered what's an example of that? And whether you think that fades over time at all? DEBORAH COHAN: No, I don't think any of this fades. I definitely don't think time heals everything or any of that stuff that people say. No, I do—I see him in so much, I guess in the past six years or so I have gotten much more involved as a public sociologist, translating ideas and concepts and theories and things for the larger public. So getting quoted in major news outlets and doing a lot of writing and things like that. That's probably the part where I so miss my father, because he would get such a tremendous kick out of the fact that I wrote for Teen Vogue, or that I, you know, was quoted in Time magazine, or I wrote a piece for Newsweek recently. I mean he just, that was his bread and butter. That's what he loved. I mean, he would have loved that I was on this podcast. He would probably be really angry and humiliated about some of what I'd be talking about. But he definitely had this overwhelming pride and interest in my accomplishments. And that has been a really hard thing to deal with because my career really took off since I've lived here, and that's when he died. And he always dreamed of living in the Carolinas, or in New Mexico, or Arizona. So sometimes I feel like I'm sort of living out something he really wanted that he didn't actualize. I think he would be pretty over the moon about the fact that I moved to South Carolina and have made a good life for myself here. I'm a lot happier as a person than I ever was before. Some of that is probably healing from abuse. It's being in a new relationship. It's so many different things. Like, I wish he could know me now. I wish I could talk to him and know him now. It's just such a strange thing, you know? But I do feel like, hopefully somehow, he knows. I had him for a long time. I'm partnered with a man whose dad died when he was ten years old. I'm often thinking to myself, "Man, I wish he knew Mike." I mean, he really missed out. He really missed out, and Mike missed out knowing his father. And I didn't have that. But instead, I had this very torturous, very complicated relationship. It's really tricky. But it's interesting because the conversations I grew up having with my dad that were really fun and provocative and helpful to me were often conversations around advertising and marketing and all that kind of stuff. Funny enough, my partner, Mike, that's his thing! He's a Director of Media Relations. So here I am still having those conversations at dinner. It's a little bit bizarre. **REGRETS, CHALLENGES, & SURPRISES (1:08:19) BLAIR HODGES: In some ways, that circle continues to close. DEBORAH COHAN: Exactly. BLAIR HODGES: Well, Deborah, let's conclude with the segment Regrets, Challenges, & Surprises. This is when you can talk about anything you regret about the book now that it's out, what the most challenging thing about writing it was, or what kind of surprises you encountered as you created this book. You can speak to one, two, or all three of those things. Regrets, challenges, and surprises. DEBORAH COHAN: I would say I don't have any regrets, which I'm so pleased about because of the nature of the topic. And the fact that surviving abuse and dealing with caregiving are riddled with regrets, the fact that I could write a book and not have regrets about it is pretty remarkable to me. BLAIR HODGES: You didn't even find any typos or anything like that? [laughs] DEBORAH COHAN: There might be I don't know— BLAIR HODGES: I didn't notice any. [laughter] DEBORAH COHAN: There might be, I don't know, but I'm kind of crazy about that kind of stuff though. My dad was too. Oh my gosh, I inherited my spelling and all that craziness from him. BLAIR HODGES: Funny. I didn't notice any. So no regrets. Alright, well, challenges and surprises? DEBORAH COHAN: I mean I don't have any regrets! I don't feel like there's anything I revealed in the book that I wish I hadn't revealed. There's nothing I wish I had included that I didn't include, that kind of thing, which feels really good to me. Yeah, I mean I actually have been thinking about this a lot as I've been writing this new book I'm working on, because it's that sense of, you just really don't want to forget something. You want to make sure that whatever you wanted to say is in it. BLAIR HODGES: Once it's out, it's out, so. DEBORAH COHAN: Right. And at the same time, though, I've started to grow more comfortable with the fact that writing itself is a process and that I will come to think about things and know things in new and different ways. And I guess, when you ask what's surprising, I will say it has surprised me that the thing I was most afraid of—which was the death of a parent or both parents—has been also freeing. It's been a pretty startling revelation I guess you could say. BLAIR HODGES: Is it hard to talk about that? Some people might say,

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James is joined by Wolves fan Bradley Parker and Bournemouth fan Neil Grover on Clash of the Correspondents with the two sides set to face off at Molineux as part of Double Gameweek 34 and there will be plenty of interest in FPL assets from both clubs, particularly from those on a Free Hit. But do the two teams have anything to play for? The key talismen, Matheus Cunha and Dominic Solanke are discussed and there are pros and cons covered about the week ahead for both forwards. Attacking and enabling alternatives from both clubs may well go under the radar such as Pablo Sarabia and Justin Kluivert, though per haps they shouldn't. And what can be expected from a returning Hwang Hee-Chan? Many FPL managers will be awaiting key news on Wolves OOP defender Rayan Ait-Nouri, but will he even remain as part of an attacking front 3 if fit, and is he even the best OOP left footed defender for the week ahead from these two clubs? Milos Kerkez could well end up in a more advanced position for The Cherries. Plus, conversation on Gary O'Neil and Andoni Iraola, the goalkeepers, injuries, form, fixtures and more... Follow Bradley on Twitter/x: https://twitter.com/parker_bradley Follow Neil on Twitter/x: https://twitter.com/AFCBNG Tomorrow on Planet FPL: Planet SkyFF s5 ep41 with Phil Loveland-Stuart and Shaun Thorpe Today on Patreon: UCL Fantasy QF 2nd Leg Preview, Chelsea v Everton Twitter Stories and Home Days from the Women's FA Cup Semi Final For the full Planet FPL schedule this week, including our offering on Patreon view this post: https://www.patreon.com/posts/schedule-april-102373754 Want to become a member of our FPL and SkyFF community and support the Podcast?  Join us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/planetfpl Follow James on Twitter: https://twitter.com/PlanetFPLPod Follow Suj on Twitter: https://twitter.com/sujanshah Follow Clayton on Twitter: https://twitter.com/claytsAFC Subscribe to our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@PlanetFPL Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/planetfpl Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/planetfpl #WWFC #AFCB #FPL Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Today's poker advice is on how to play suited connectors preflop and postflop. Links mentioned in the podcast are below ⬇️ Suited connector 10 commandments 1 - play them in games where it's deep and vs players who will stack off with over pairs 2 - open raise them in games with tight players behind that will fold a fair amount to raises 3 - Play only in late position 4 - Mix raises and calls preflop based on player type, stack depth etc. Only Call if on the button. All other positions always raise or fold. Mix based on suits or how good you are running. 5 - Don't raise if more than 3 limpers. It becomes too expensive. Either fold if not on button. Or call on button. When you do call be very aware of reverse implied odds of getting over flushed. 6 - Fold to 3b when OOP. Call in position if deep enough. 7 - Release when you only catch one pair 8 - Continue aggressively with draws that are massive 9 - bluff to win the pot when you can because of position 10 - never 4 bet with suited connectors except on rare occasions where you have some strong blocker like KQ suited. Even then it's not advised except against the loosest aggro opponents and when your image is tight and invincible. Fans of the Pod get ad free, fluff free episode every single Sunday: https://lowlimitcashgames.com Save 10% when you choose the annual option Targeted Low Stakes poker training with hundreds of hours of audio and video teaching exclusively how to crush 1/2 and 1/3 no limit: https://lowlimitcashgames.com Save 10% when you choose the annual option. Hate AK? How to Play AK Master Class For only $49 get this 88 minute training video of me showing you exactly how to play AK, particularly when out of position. https://www.patreon.com/lowlim... The best way to ramp your game up and know how to play any hand in any spot by drilling it over and over again. This is the only product I endorses. Make sure to use my code for a 25% discount at checkout: https://advancedpokertraining.... Use code: lowlimit Want more details on everything that is offered with the training package on Patreon? I go into great detail about it all here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/...

Welcome to The Nonlinear Library, where we use Text-to-Speech software to convert the best writing from the Rationalist and EA communities into audio. This is: Simple Kelly betting in prediction markets, published by jessicata on March 7, 2024 on LessWrong. Kelly betting is a strategy for gambling, maximizing one's log(money) every round, by betting a fixed fraction of one's income. I will define Kelly betting a certain class of discrete prediction markets, give a simple Kelly betting rule for these prediction markets, and show it equivalent to the original Kelly formula in a two-outcome case. A prediction market consists of a finite set of outcomes O, and a probability measure Q(O) on these outcomes. Participants may buy, for some outcome o, a contract that pays out $1 if o comes true, for a price of $Q(o). This assumes no transaction fees. Suppose you have m money. You are going to spend all your money on these contracts, with R being a probability measure over O, and R(o) being the portion of money you spend on each type of contract. Note that you can buy some of each contract as an equivalent to holding on to money (e.g. to "hold on" to $2, buy 2 copies of each contract o, costing $2 in total; these contracts combined will always pay out $2). This means it's fine to assume that spending all your money on contracts doesn't compromise optimality. If your subjective probabilities of the outcomes are defined by a probability measure P(O), what is the optimal R(O) that maximizes your log-money at the end of this round? Your money conditional on outcome o is mR(o)/Q(o), since you are spending mR(o) on contracts costing Q(o) each. Therefore your expected log-money is: f(R):=oOP(o)logmR(o)Q(o)=oOP(o)(logm+logR(o)logQ(o)) Note that the log m and log Q(o) terms do not depend on R. We can therefore ignore these terms when taking the partial derivatives with respect to each R(o): f(R)R(o)=(P(o)logR(o))R(o)=P(o)R(o) If any of these partial derivatives are greater than any other, then expected log-money can be increased by moving a small amount of money from the outcome with the lower partial derivative to the one with the higher partial derivative (since f is continuous). Therefore, at the maximum of f, these partial derivatives all equal some constant c, i.e., P(o)/R(o)=c for some c. (Formally proving this might require some additional work, using the fact that f is concave and R(o) has to be positive whenever P(o) is positive; I'll omit this for brevity.) Equivalently, R(o)=P(o)/c. But this must imply c = 1, since R and P are both probability measures; any other c value would result in R not summing to 1. This implies R = P. What this means is that the optimal Kelly betting strategy involves spending a P(o) portion of your money on contracts paying out conditional on each outcome o. Interestingly, this is entirely independent of Q. This can also be seen by noticing that Q only contributes to additive terms in f that do not depend on R, such that the gradient does not depend on Q. Is this equivalent to the original Kelly rule in a two-outcome case? This rule is given by: f=p1pb where f* is the optimal portion of your money to bet, p is the probability of a win, and b is the ratio between how much is gained on a win versus how much is lost on a loss (e.g. on a triple-or-nothing coin toss, b = 2, because twice as much is gained on a win than is lost on a loss). We can set O = {w, l} (w is win, l is loss) and determine Q as a function of b. Specifically, we set Q(w)=1b+1 Q(l)=11b+1=bb+1 These are the implied house odds for b. If you spend x money on contracts paying out conditional on w, these contracts pay out x(b+1), corresponding to a net gain of xb money, whereas if you lose you simply lose x money; this therefore adequately translates b to a prediction market. Our rule says to spend a P(w) = p portion of your money on w contracts, and a 1-p portion of your money on l contracts. Suppose your starting money is m. If you win, your e...

A caller tells us they found the love of their life, their fiancé, on a dating app... OOP! What would you do in this situation? Also we play a hip-hop lyric game - can you guess them all? We also ask what secrets you can tell us, what is broken and you refuse to fix it, and do aliens really exist? Yep, just a normal Thursday at Elvis Duran and the Morning Show! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode of Ruby for All, Andrew and Julie reconnect after a three-week break to share how they spent their vacation and their plans for the new year, as Julie talks about her family's newest addition, a Whippet named Lucy, and Andrew getting plenty of rest, some rock climbing, and a hot yoga class. Then, they dive into the topic of burnout, sharing their personal experiences and strategies for managing burnout effectively. They discuss looking forward to Ruby 3.3, upcoming conferences, and a collective aim to level up their careers. Join Andrew and Julie as they kick off the new year with optimism and hit download now![00:00:17] Andrew and Julie catch up and discuss their Christmas breaks. Julie reveals they have a new family dog and Andrew reveals he would like to get a dog one day. [00:02:10] Andrew discusses his restful break, hibernating, visiting Virginia, rock climbing, and enjoyed a hot yoga class. [00:04:50] Over break, Julie started reading the book, “99 Bottles of OOP” by Sandi Metz and catching up on conference talks. She considers redoing her app with Turbo and Rails. [00:05:56] Andrew started reading “Practical VIM” but he's ready to switch to Neovim. He's been reading multiple books, trying to regain his love for reading, and he sets goals to read more and started using book summaries on Blinkist.[00:07:30] Andrew and Julie reminisce about their childhood reading habits. Julie talks about her struggles with reading comprehension and trying to pick it up again.[00:10:36] Andrew discusses his experience with speed reading techniques and explains how speed reading doesn't necessarily impact his ADHD. He discusses extracting key points from books without reading every word. [00:12:37] Julie feels burned out from work and finds reading “99 Bottles of OOP” refreshing, and she expresses her ongoing burnout and asks Andrew's thoughts on this.Andrew shares his personal warning signs of burnout, which includes losing the joy of programming, neglecting health, and feeling stuck and discouraged. [00:15:06] Julie acknowledges the importance of recognizing burnout signs and relates to the difficulty in identifying them, especially when juggling work and family. Andrew shares the challenge is addressing burnout once it's recognized, emphasizing the need to focus on self-care and potentially making changes if the job is the cause.[00:16:11] Andrew suggests restoring sleep, exercise, and diet are crucial first steps to combat burnout, and he shares strategies for improvement, like focusing on sleep and reducing screen time.[00:17:56] Julie has replaced watching stimulating YouTube videos before bed with reading to cut down on screen time. Andrew set a goal for less screen time in 2024. [00:20:06] They shift the conversation to Ruby 3.3 and upcoming conferences and which ones they would like to attend. [00:21:13] Julie inquires if Andrew's desire to focus on becoming a better engineer is about “leveling up.” Andrew agrees and expresses feeling stuck in his career for the past couple of years and is now ready to advance. [00:21:41] Julie questions if Andrew has a plan for achieving his career growth. Andrew explains he intends to improve his database skills, particularly Postgres and architecture, dive into security, and learn more about iOS development.[00:22:10] Some personal goals Andrew wants is to increase his typing speed and become more proficient with the home row typing method. Panelists:Andrew MasonJulie J.Sponsors:GoRailsHoneybadgerLinks:Andrew Mason X/TwitterAndrew Mason WebsiteJulie J. X/TwitterJulie J. Website99 Bottles of OOP by Sandi MetzPractical VIM by Drew NeilNeovimHigh Performance PostgreSQL for Rails by Andrew AtkinsonThe Programmer's Brain by Felienne HermansBlinkist (00:00) - Intro and Welcome (00:17) - Catching up and Christmas breaks (02:10) - Andrew's restful break and activities (04:50) - Julie's reading and app plans (05:56) - Andrew's reading goals (07:30) - Childhood reading habits (10:36) - Andrew on speed reading (12:37) - Burnout and Julie's struggles (15:06) - Recognizing and addressing burnout (16:11) - Strategies for combating burnout (17:56) - Reducing screen time (20:06) - Ruby 3.3 and upcoming conferences (21:13) - Career growth and leveling up (21:41) - Andrew's career growth plan (22:10) - Personal goals and typing speed

OOP she deciding to be great!?  Yes, Im back AGAIN! It's MEEE!!! Back and excited for our NEE SEASON of More Wine Please! I'm excited  to talk and this time we talking reflection.  2023 was a tough year for a lot of us! Thank goodness it's over! But 2024 better not come in here on no mess! I am so excited to get back to what I love!  I will never stop thanking the people that are constantly supporting me and listening to my podcast no matter what! To the people who been waiting and patient, I am back and I love and thank you from the bottom of my heart.  Thank you so so much! You the realist. This week we are sharing some of our thoughts closing the year and entering this new year! Never forget who tf you are in the mist of your trenches. We will dive into some media hot takes and a little vibe check!  So go ahead and grab your wine glass or get some MORE WINE PLEASE!

In this conversation live from RubyConf San Diego, Andrew and Julie sit down with Elise Shaffer, host of The Ruby on Rails Podcast. They kick things off with sharing conference experiences, the joy of reconnecting with friends, and the unique energy the in-person events bring. The discussion shifts to the concept and practice of Test Driven Development (TDD), its benefits, and how it aids in problem-solving during coding.  An interesting point is discussed about whether tests or code should be written first, and whether it's okay to write tests after the code.  They also dive into the handling of tests on legacy codes within Rails. The conversation wraps up with gratitude to the organizers, speakers, volunteers, and attendees at RubyConf. Press download now to hear more! [00:00:24] Elise shares her conference experience mentioning enjoying the sessions and seeing friends from previous conferences, and Julie and Andrew share their joy of being in the company of friends, the conference atmosphere, and food.  [00:01:39] Elise shares the number of Ruby and Rails conferences she's attended and her most memorable one which was Steel City Ruby, highlighting the value of smaller conferences and tight-knit communities. [00:02:45] They discuss the difference between in-person and online conferences, agreeing that in-person events offer more energy and interaction. [00:03:50] The conversation shifts to memorable conferences as Andrew reminisces about his first conference experience at RailsConf in Pittsburgh. Julie talks about her first conference, RailsConf 2022 in Portland, where she met Elise and Andrew and where Ruby for All was conceived.[00:06:12] Andrew asks Julie about her rise in popularity withing a year, moving from a newcomer toa recognized member of the community. The group jokes about autographs and fame within the Ruby community. Elise shares her role in the community, especially with the podcast she hosts. [00:09:33] Elise and Andrew discuss the technical aspects of testing and continuous integration within software development. She explains her background in Ruby and Rails, where she focused on testing and its challenges in larger applications, and she discusses strategies for testing and the importance of testing not every permutation but preventing major issues, [00:12:46] Julie asks Elise to explain parallelized testing.  Elise details using CircleCl or other runners to break up many tests across multiple workers to speed up the process.[00:13:56] Elise explains what Test Driven Development (TDD) means to her, and Julie asks whether TDD is always applicable, like when fixing a bug rather than creating a new feature. [00:15:30] Elise wishes TDD was still popular and stresses that TDD is a skill that must be developed. She describes the advantages of TDD, particularly in large applications, where having a robust test suite allows for faster development and less worry about breaking something inadvertently. [00:18:58] Andrew challenges the concept of TDD, suggesting that for a talented engineer, tests might seem like a waste of time.  Elise responds by emphasizing that TDD is a thinking tool that aids in understanding the problem. [00:20:59] The discussion turns to reviewing tests.  Elise explains her approach to reviewing pull requests by checking the problem solved, reviewing commits one at a time, and comparing her list of tests with the submitted ones, placing higher importance on the tests than the code itself. [00:24:02] Elise and Andrew compare their personal styles in reviewing code and the importance of preparing commit messages for review. Julie is curious how Elise and Andrew manage their commit history and whether they use the command line for combining commits. Andrew mentions using interactive rebase. [00:24:47] If you're interested in getting into TDD, Elise tells us she's working on a course about test driving in Rails applications coming out on early next year , but also recommends reading two great books: Test Driven Development: By Example by Kent Beck and 99 Bottles of OOP by Sandi Metz.[00:25:33] Julie questions how to handle TDD in a legacy codebase with complex and nested tests. Elise suggests pairing with someone more knowledgeable to break up the tests into smaller, more manageable files. Panelists:Andrew MasonJulie J.Guest:Elise ShafferSponsors:HoneybadgerGoRailsLinks:Andrew Mason X/TwitterAndrew Mason WebsiteJulie J. X/TwitterJulie J. WebsiteElise Shaffer WebsiteElise Shaffer GitHubThe Ruby on Rails PodcastCircleCITest Driven Development: By Example by Kent Beck99 Bottles of OOP by Sandi Metz (00:24) - - Introduction and conference experience (01:39) - - Memorable conferences and tight-knit communities (02:45) - - In-person vs. online conferences (03:50) - - First conference experiences (06:12) - - Julie's rise in popularity and fame in the community (09:33) - - Testing and continuous integration in software development (12:46) - - Parallelized testing and speeding up test processes (13:56) - - Test Driven Development (TDD) and its applicability (15:30) - - Advantages of TDD and its role in understanding problems (18:58) - - Challenges to the concept of TDD (20:59) - - Reviewing tests and pull requests (24:02) - - Managing commit history and using interactive rebase (24:47) - - Recommendations for learning TDD (25:33) - - Handling TDD in legacy codebases

CO-HOST: Bigg Bump joins Hake for Veterans Day (observed) to cover blacks, women, Hillary, Owen, and more. Great calls on Trump and truth! The Hake Report, Friday, November 10, 2023 AD CO-HOST LINKS (Bigg Bump)  https://twitter.com/bigg_bump  //  https://www.youtube.com/@biggbump  //  https://www.instagram.com/bigg_bump  //  TIME STAMPS * (0:00:00) Start - "The A-Team" intro* (0:00:31) Bigg Bump presents topics* (0:01:56) Hey, guys! Uniting the Races JLP tee (OOP)* (0:04:34) black slaveowners: University of Kentucky* (0:15:33) Death of Merit in Science, Dr. Debra Soh* (0:27:52) Julie Martin, Journal of Women and Minorities in Science and Engineering* (0:34:09) CJ, TX: Science fraud, relative risk vs absolute * (0:42:04) CJ: Who funds studies, abuse* (0:44:52) Super: Why do people believe what they do? (Ego is Real)* (0:52:43) BHI fighting pro-Palestinians* (0:53:31) Bigg Bump - "F.E.A.R. (Face Everything And Rise)"* (0:58:07) Hillary: Trump '24 would end our country* (1:10:53) RONNIE, OH: Trump lied "2 Corinthians," Bible fave book* (1:29:02) JOHN, KY: Trump, Epstein island* (1:36:20) MANUEL, CA: Trump built the market, gov't taxes* (1:39:14) WILLIAM, CA: Trump and truth* (1:42:07) Supers: Ego and Evil, Jibe vs Jive* (1:43:42) Political persecution of Owen Shroyer* (1:53:41) MAZE: William is a W-word-igger! * (1:56:19) Mary Rice Hopkins - "Running for the Prize"BLOG https://www.thehakereport.com/blog/2023/11/10/bigg-bump-minorities-and-persecution-of-the-free-veterans-day-fri-11-10-23 PODCAST by HAKE SubstackLive M-F 9-11 AM PT (11-1 CT / 12-2 ET) Call-in 1-888-775-3773 – thehakereport.com  VIDEO  YouTube  |  Rumble*  |  Facebook  |  X  |  BitChute  |  Odysee*  PODCAST  Apple  |  Spotify  |  Castbox  |  Substack  (RSS)  *SUPER CHAT on asterisked above, or  BuyMeACoffee  |  Streamlabs  |  Ko-fi  SUPPORT HAKE  Substack  |  SubscribeStar  |  Locals  ||  SHOP  Teespring  ALSO SEE  Hake News on The JLP Show  |  Appearances (other shows, etc.)  JLP Network:  JLP  |  Church  |  TFS  |  Hake  |  Nick  |  Joel  Get full access to HAKE at thehakereport.substack.com/subscribe