Podcast appearances and mentions of dani donovan

Dani Donovan is a purpose-driven creator and the founder/CEO of The Anti-Boring Project. Her unorthodox self-help book “The Anti-Planner: How to Get Sh*t Done When You Don't Feel Like It” offers procrastinators innovative strategies, activities, and games to understand their emotions and overcome productivity roadblocks. Dani's work empowers individuals with ADHD understand themselves, feel a sense of belonging, and better explain their struggles to loved ones. Her relatable webcomics, viral TikToks, and closing keynote at the 2021 International ADHD Conference have established her as a prominent voice in the mental health community. Dani has been featured in publications like The New York Times, The Washington Post, BBC News, and The Guardian. Her efforts have encouraged thousands to seek diagnosis and treatment. Check out her work at ADHDDD.com and anti-planner.com! Listen to this Parenting With Impact episode with Dani Donovan about procrastination and emotion. Top 12 Tips To Help Your Complex Kids Got complex kids? Yeah, so do we. Parenting a complex kid can be frustrating, overwhelming, and isolating. It can also be incredibly rewarding -- with the right help and guidance! This FREE insider's guide  from the experts at ImpactParents includes our top 12 tips to help you create a calm, peaceful home and guide your kids to become more independent every day. UTM: https://impactparents.pages.ontraport.net/top-twelve-tips-bonus?utm_campaign=Podcast&utm_source=episode&utm_medium=cta&utm_content=12-tips Here is what to expect on this week's show: • Dani emphasizes the effectiveness of personalized learning strategies, such as using art to help her son study. This highlights the significance of tailoring educational approaches to individual interests and needs. • The Feelings-Based Productivity Approach advocated by Dani organizes productivity tools based on emotional states. This approach addresses how individuals feel, ultimately boosting productivity by acknowledging and working with their emotions. • Elaine and Dani stress the importance of collaborative communication and incorporating humor to navigate the challenges of ADHD. Effective communication and a light-hearted approach can make dealing with ADHD-related difficulties more manageable. Related Links: • How to Respond When Your Kid Says Everything is Boring: https://impactparents.com/blog/complex-kids/kid-says-everything-is-boring/ • Empathy: A Magic Wand to Connect with Complex Kids and Teens: https://impactparents.com/blog/complex-kids/empathy-a-magic-wand-to-connect-with-complex-kids-teens/ • The Anti Boring Project: https://www.antiboringproject.com • ADHD Conference: https://chadd.org/conference/ • The Anti-Planner: https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1944627073/?tag=im0ea3-20 Connect with Dani: Website:  anti-planner.com Website:  https://adhddd.com/ Twitter:  https://x.com/danidonovan TikTok:  https://www.tiktok.com/@danidonovan Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/danidonovan Patreon:  patreon.com/danidonovan Get your FREE copy of 12 Key Coaching Tools https://impactparents.com/gift Connect with Impact Parents: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/impactparents/ @impactparents Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ImpactParent @impactparent LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/impactparents/ @impactparents X (fka Twitter): https://twitter.com/ImpactParents @impactparents Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the midst of our little rest-n-relaxation break we've been taking the last couple of month, we somehow found ourselves diving into another project that we can't wait to share with you soon! While we iron out those details, enjoy another incredible conversation we had back in 2022 during ADHD Awareness Month. Today's guest is a name we know you'll recognize. Dani Donovan is one of the OGs of ADHD content creation, sharing her journey and perspective on how the disorder shows up in her life so generously with the world. Hear her share why she's chosen this path and what its meant for her. Hint: Little Dani is screaming at the irony! Dani and Lindsay also talk breaking down ADHD stereotypes, being a woman with ADHD and managing friendships, and the importance of workplace accommodations for neurodivergent people. To learn more about Dani and the work she is doing for the ADHD community, check out her website here. And if you haven't already, make sure to pick up Dani's book, The Anti-Planner: How to Get Sh*t Done When You Don't Feel Like It, available now! Follow Refocused on Social Media: Instagram: @lindsayguentzel @refocusedpod  Twitter: @lindsayguentzel @refocusedpod    Connect with the show: hello@refocusedpod.com

On episode 210, we dive into a topic that resonates with many of us: the struggle between wanting to achieve our goals, and a lack of motivation. Today, we're exploring all of it with a guest who has transformed this challenge into an art. Emily chats with Dani Donovan, a renowned author, ADHD advocate, and the genius behind those viral illustrations that have likely caught your eye on social media. Dani's groundbreaking book, 'The Anti-Planner: How to Get Stuff Done When You Don't Feel Like It,' offers a perspective on navigating the complexities of motivation and procrastination. We'll delve into the intricate relationship between our emotions and our drive to initiate tasks, debunk the myth that procrastination is simply laziness, and give you practical tactics for overcoming those daunting challenges. Dani Donovan is a purpose-driven creator, author, and ADHD advocate whose cathartic comics, TikTok videos, and #NeurodiverseSquad hashtag have helped build an online community for adults living with ADHD. She's been featured in publications like The New York Times, BBC News, and NPR, and was the closing keynote at the 2021 International ADHD Conference. Her unorthodox self-help book, The Anti-Planner: How to Get Stuff Done When You Don't Feel Like It, offers creative strategies, activities, and games to help procrastinators understand their emotions and overcome productivity roadblocks. Dani's work has encouraged thousands of people to seek diagnosis and treatment. BACKGROUND READING adhddd.com Twitter/X Instagram The Anti-Planner

This is a truly special and kick ass episode.  Jen hosts Dani Donovan, author of the AMAZING handbook “The Anti-Planner:  How to Get Yourself to Do Sh*t When You Don't Feel Like it”.   Together, Jen and Dani unpack this gem that breaks down the common feelings when struggling to get something done and then funnels you into only a few, fun strategies to try (so as not to overwhelm). This was a true honor to have Dani on the show, as The Anti-Planner is one of Jen's go-to books for getting stuff done and something she highly recommends to her clients, especially those with ADHD.  It is an incredibly high-quality book (thick pages, amazing graphics and cartoons (she's an artist), hard covered, ringed binder with elastic strap) and on top of the super high-quality content.  It is worth every penny and more!   Plus, Dani makes a special announcement about a really cool (free) opportunity to connect with her that will help you get stuff done.  Be sure to listen to learn more! You can purchase The Anti-Planner on her website here: https://anti-planner.com/shop/the-anti-planner-how-to-get-sht-done-when-you-dont-feel-like-it/  You can also check out her other offerings on her website here:  https://adhddd.com/ (rumor has it she's got some great TikToks right on her website, plus other great stuff).  AND, here on YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@TheAntiBoringProject    If you're not already, be sure to follow and share! Follow me on social media! Instagram:  @i_am_jen_barnes TikTok:@i_am_jen_barnes   DISCLAIMER:  This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered legal health or medical advice.  We are not responsible for any losses, damages, or liabilities that may arise from the use of this podcast. This podcast is not intended to replace professional medical advice or psychotherapy.   If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency please contact emergency services in your area.  If you are in the USA, dial 988 for the Suicide and Crisis line or 911 for a medical emergency.

In this fun and insightful episode, I talk to Dani Donovan about her journey to getting diagnosed with ADHD in college. Dani shares how starting medication and finding her community in college helped her thrive academically. She also opens up about how her candid ADHD comics went viral on social media, leading her to create resources like “The Anti-Planner” to help others with executive dysfunction. Dani discusses tips like setting short sprints instead of long distances, body doubling, writing down what works, and embracing your weird. Dani Donovan is a purpose-driven and award-winning viral creator, author, and advocate for people with ADHD. Dani is known for her relatable comics and #NeurodiverseSquad community, and has been featured in The New York Times, The Washington Post, and The Guardian. She is the author of the unorthodox productivity guide “The Anti-Planner” and her work has encouraged thousands to seek diagnosis and treatment. Episode Highlights[01:05] - Dani's “Anti-Planner” with creative strategies for ADHDers to overcome roadblocks.[03:26] - Dani's ADHD diagnosis in freshman year of college when seeking help for depression.[07:45] - Rewarding to be able to help people recognize symptoms and get diagnosed.[09:36] - Medication was like “putting on glasses” for the first time for Dani.[11:26] - Dani became the “easy person to talk to” which helped her thrive and build collaboration.[13:29] - Dani takes a non-scarcity approach to competition and community.[17:05] - Doing laundry as an ADHDer.[19:04] - How Dani first went viral.[22:58] - Dani envisioned “The Anti-Planner” as a procrastination “fire extinguisher”.[26:27] - Dani is launching a podcast and YouTube channel focusing on ADHD struggles.[29:34] - Dani's mission with her company, The Anti-Boring Project, for underserved populations.[33:14] - How Dani maintains momentum during the overwhelm and underwhelm cycle with “sprints”.[36:09] - Dani's number one ADHD tip![37:37] - Dani explains the power of body doubling.[38:48] - If she could go back, Dani would tell her younger self this. Connect with Dani Donovan:·         Dani's Anti-Planner: https://anti-planner.com/·         Dani on Instagram: @DaniDonovan·         Dani's Website: https://www.adhddd.com/  Thank you for tuning in to this episode of Successful with ADHD. If you enjoyed this conversation, please +FOLLOW the podcast on your favorite platform and leave a review to let us know your thoughts.Do you get stuck in analysis paralysis more than you like when making decisions?Join me while I share my 5-Step Process in my upcoming FREE Masterclass on "How to Make Decisions with Confidence and Ease." >>https://event.webinarjam.com/register/47/684m6c5vSave your spot today, seats are limited. >https://event.webinarjam.com/register/47/684m6c5v

People with ADHD know what it's like to be called lazy. Is that because they don't seem “productive”? Who better to talk about this with than the creator of The Anti-Planner: How to Get Sh*t When You Don't Feel Like It, Dani Donovan. Dani shares her ADHD “aha” moments and what drove her to create an activity book designed for procrastinators.Dani and host Laura Key chat about what it means to be productive with ADHD. Dani shares how she would criticize herself intensely so that others wouldn't. They also talk about analysis paralysis, rejection sensitivity, friendship, and how understanding neurodiversity can change the game.To find a transcript for this episode and more resources, visit the episode page at Understood.We love hearing from our listeners. Email us at ADHDAha@understood.org.Understood.org is a resource dedicated to shaping the world so the 70 million people in the U.S. with learning and thinking differences can thrive. Learn more about ADHD Aha! and all our podcasts at u.org/podcasts. Copyright © 2023 Understood for All, Inc. All rights reserved. Understood is not affiliated with any pharmaceutical company.

How long have you been listening to Refocused? Did you start in May of 2022 or did you join later? Have you gone back and listened to all of the previous episodes?    In today's special episoden Lindsay has a conversation with Keith Boswell, the vice president of marketing at Mentavi Health and ADHD Online. Keith has championed the podcast from the beginning and like us, is an advocate for mental health and ADHD.    Lindsay also shares some of her favorite moments from the first 100 episodes of Refocused, including highlights from these incredible episodes below.  Episode 86 - I'm An Adult With ADHD And I Stole My Son's Ritalin   Episode 77 - Managing Out of Sight, Out of Mind in an ADHD World with Dr. John Kruse   Episode 64 - ADHD and Finding Organizational Peace of Mind in 2023   Refocused, Together 2022 - Episode 13 - Evan Bierscheid and the ADHD Spectrum   Refocused, Together 2022 - Episode 25 - Meredith Phillips and Going Down the Rabbit Hole   Refocused, Together - Episode 22 - Geoffrey Evans and Using His Voice   Refocused, Together - Episode 31 - Louis Inglis and Finishing Projects   Refocused, Together - Episode 23 - Dani Donovan and ADHD Content Creation Add us on Social Media:   Instagram: @lindsayguentzel @refocusedpod @adhdonline Twitter: @lindsayguentzel @refocusedpod @adhdonline   Email the show: hello@refocusedpod.com   We appreciate you taking the time to listen! If you'd like to show your support, please consider following "Refocused" on your preferred podcast-listening platform. Also, leaving a rating and/or review would be greatly appreciated and help us share our content with more people. Thank you!   Resources: The new Refocused logo was designed by Sissy Yee at Berlin Grey, LLC. Video production assistance is provided by the wonderful people at Deksia. The theme music for Refocused was created by Louis Inglis, a songwriter and composer in Perth, Australia who was diagnosed with ADHD in 2020 at the age of 39. To learn more about his work, check out his online studio here. You can also email Louis directly here. For more information on ADHD Online and ADHD assessments, medical management, and teletherapy, check out ADHDonline.com.

In today's episode, we talk to ADHD creator and friend of the show, Dani Donovan!  (Dani has created the Anti-Planner, a phenomenal tool for helping folks with ADHD get stuff done.) Dani talks to us about the Anti-Planner, and why it it such a powerful tool for folks with ADHD. She shares some of the strategies in it.  Strategies that she actually used in creating it!  (Like letting yourself bounce from one strategy to another, paper football decision-making, KanBan boards, even strategies for meal planning!)   Register for the ADHD Essentials Parenting Groups Here   Guest Links: Check Out Dani's work here! And buy the Anti-planner Here!    ADHD Essentials Links:   Learn about & Register for the The ADHD Essentials Online Parent Coaching Groups  Join Our Facebook Community Check out the ADHD Essentials Homepage Contact Brendan at brendan@ADHDessentials.com    

It can be challenging to be productive and accomplish business tasks. Getting things done is a foundational skill, and we've got a list of ideas to help you move forward in this episode of Business or Pressure with Alissa Haines. Host: Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner and columnist for Massage & Bodywork magazine. You can find her building a community of massage therapists at deepbreathdigital.com/community.   Resources: The Anti-Planner, Dani Donovan https://www.adhddd.com/anti-planner/   Author links: www.deepbreathdigital.com/community   Sponsors:   Jojoba: www.jojobacompany.com   HobaCare Jojoba is a premium quality, 100% pure jojoba oil that is highly beneficial for massage therapists. As a single-ingredient product, it aligns perfectly with holistic practices, providing an all-natural, chemical-free massage medium option. Jojoba oil closely resembles human sebum, which allows it to absorb easily and deeply into the skin, delivering a non-greasy, moisturizing experience that doesn't clog pores or cause allergic reactions. This unique property makes it an excellent medium for massage, enhancing tactile contact without leaving an oily residue. HobaCare Jojoba is also shelf stable and will not stain natural fiber sheets. By choosing HobaCare Jojoba, massage therapists can enhance their practice, offering clients a superior, skin-friendly experience that promotes both skin health and overall well-being. Website: www.hobacare.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jojobacompany Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jojobacompany

On this week's episode of The Secret to Vicky is joined by The Apprentice finalist and businesswoman, Dani Donovan! Dani chat's to Vicky all about her experience taking part in The Apprentice from contestant rivalry, filming gossip and what it's like being in the boardroom with Lord Sugar. Plus, Vicky and Dani discuss all about being a woman in business in 2023, Vicky's teenage dreams of becoming a WAG and Dani's goals for the future. You can keep up with Dani's ventures here on instagram. Follow The Secret To on Socials:

On this week's episode of The Secret to Vicky is joined by The Apprentice finalist and businesswoman, Dani Donovan! Dani chat's to Vicky all about her experience taking part in The Apprentice from contestant rivalry, filming gossip and what it's like being in the boardroom with Lord Sugar. Plus, Vicky and Dani discuss all about being a woman in business in 2023, Vicky's teenage dreams of becoming a WAG and Dani's goals for the future. You can keep up with Dani's ventures here on instagram. Follow The Secret To on Socials:

"The Embrace," a sculpture on the Boston Common that represents the love between Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Coretta Scott King, was unveiled last week. The sculpture depicts the arms of both wrapped around each other. Artist Hank Willis Thomas designed "The Embrace" and joins us to talk about it and King Jr.'s legacy. Then, last year, numerous popular retailers including Walgreens warned about an increase in organized retail theft. Reporters and local police found little evidence of this, though. Rachel Swan, who has been covering this for the San Francisco Chronicle, joins us. And, the average planner just doesn't work for many people diagnosed with ADHD. That's the case for artist Dani Donovan, who created the "Anti-Planner" to keep herself motivated in a way that works for her. She's heard from others who are prone to procrastination that her model works for them, too. Donovan joins us.

Today, we're continuing our annual episodes from the International ADHD Conference.  This episode, as well as the previous and the next are all quick, minimally edited group debriefs of ADHD Con 2022.  My guests for this chat are numerous, honestly, I'm toasted from the conference.  But among them are ADHD luminaries Dani Donovan, Jessica McCabe, Caroline Maguire, Eric Tivers, and Cate Osborn, as well as past show guests Dr. Caroline Lentzsch-Parcells and Chris from NASA.  That's a lot of names.  I didn't even mention everyone.  We may have had a pizza party.     ADHD Essentials Links:   Learn about & Register for the The ADHD Essentials Online Parent Coaching Groups  Join Our Facebook Community Check out the ADHD Essentials Homepage Contact Brendan at brendan@ADHDessentials.com   ADHD reWired Podcast Network Plugs: ADHD reWired Hacking Your ADHD ADHD Essentials ADHD Diversified

Today, we're talking to Shane Thrapp of “Creating Order from Chaos”.  Shane is an ADHD coach, sits on the board for the Inattentive ADHD Coalition, and moderates the largest men's ADHD group on Facebook.  Shane shares his ADHD diagnosis story, and the role his son played in it.  He talks about how his parenting journey - the ways that our parents, for good or for ill, set the bar for us as parents, and why owning our mistakes as parents can be both incredibly hard and incredibly important. He also discusses his involvement with both the Men's ADHD Support Group on Facebook (and how they help their members move beyond toxic behaviors so they can have healthy, supportive interactions), and the Inattentive ADHD Coalition (which seeks to help raise awareness of Inattentive ADHD). Guest Links: Learn more about Shane at https://www.creatingorderfromchaos.com/ Find the Men's ADHD at https://www.facebook.com/groups/mensadhdsupportgroup/members Learn more about the Inattentive ADHD Coalition here: https://www.iadhd.org/   Where's Brendan? November 7th– I'm part of the Putting Mama First Virtual Summit where I'll be talking about why setting boundaries is part of self-care, and how to set them. November 7th– I'm also part of the See Beyond ADHD Virtual Summit.  This one is a more free ranging interview where I talk about everything from the foundations of ADHD management, to homeschooling, to why we should give ourselves more credit. November 17th– I'll be at the International Conference on ADHD in Texas sharing a workshop on for ADHD professionals on how to be a good podcast guest. November 18th– I'll still be at the ADHD conference, and I'll be hosting a panel of ADHD influencers featuring Jessica McCabe, René Brooks, John Hazelwood, and Dani Donovan. December 3rd - I'm on a panel at the board gaming convention, PAX Unplugged in Philly, talking about the relationships between ADHD and Dungeons and Dragons. ADHD Essentials Links:   Learn about & Register for the The ADHD Essentials Online Parent Coaching Groups  Join Our Facebook Community Check out the ADHD Essentials Homepage Contact Brendan at brendan@ADHDessentials.com   ADHD reWired Podcast Network Plugs: ADHD reWired Hacking Your ADHD ADHD Essentials ADHD Diversified

Today, it's just me.  I'm discussing a metaphor I've been sharing for years in my workshops, but somehow haven't brought to the podcast yet.  It's a way to pay more attention to the things that are going smoothly, rather than the things that are getting in the way and causing trouble.  It's an important skill to develop, so we can reinforce the things we want, and have a better outlook on our lives.  And it's especially critical with ADHD in the mix. Where's Brendan? November 1st– I'll be doing a live webinar for ADDitude on how teachers and parents can help lonely teenagers who are dealing with peer rejection. November 7th– I'm part of the Putting Mama First Virtual Summit where I'll be talking about why setting boundaries is part of self-care, and how to set them. November 7th– I'm also part of the See Beyond ADHD Virtual Summit.  This one is a more free ranging interview where I talk about everything from the foundations of ADHD management, to homeschooling, to why we should give ourselves more credit. November 17th– I'll be at the International Conference on ADHD in Texas sharing a workshop on for ADHD professionals on how to be a good podcast guest. November 18th– I'll still be at the ADHD conference, and I'll be hosting a panel of ADHD influencers featuring Jessica McCabe, René Brooks, John Hazelwood, and Dani Donovan. December 3rd - I'm on a panel at the board gaming convention, PAX Unplugged in Philly, talking about the relationships between ADHD and Dungeons and Dragons. ADHD Essentials Links:   Learn about & Register for the The ADHD Essentials Online Parent Coaching Groups  Join Our Facebook Community Check out the ADHD Essentials Homepage Contact Brendan at brendan@ADHDessentials.com   ADHD reWired Podcast Network Plugs: ADHD reWired Hacking Your ADHD ADHD Essentials ADHD Diversified ADHD Friendly Lifestyle 

As a content creator and comedian, Dani Donovan has a unique perspective on this ADHD journey and she generously shares it with the world. Hear her talk with Lindsay about how and why she's chosen this path. Dani's story is one of the 31 stories we're sharing throughout the month of October to raise awareness on the complexity of ADHD and the different ways it shows up in our lives. To learn more about Dani and the work she is doing for the ADHD community, check out her website here. And make sure to stay tuned for the official release of Dani's bookk, The Anti-Planner: How to Get Sh*t Done When You Don't Feel Like It.

Today, we're talking to Dr. Elizabeth Kilmer. Dr. Kilmer is a licensed clinical psychologist and the director of education and training at Game to Grow.  In this outstanding interview Elizabeth shares a brief exploration of the ways Dungeons and Dragons supports social growth, and then for the bulk of the interview we examine the SPARK model from Game to Grow's Critical Core program, and how parents can use this guide for good game mastering to improve their parenting.  I recognize that this interview might seem a bit niche and geeky.  But I promise, even if you have zero interest in Dungeons and Dragons, you'll find it the information useful.  Throughout, we're essentially looking at the similarities and metaphorical interconnections between being and game master and being a parent and leader.  Besides, it's been a few years since I last did a D&D episode.  Guest Links: Learn more about Dr. Elizabeth Kilmer at https://gametogrow.org/about/staff/elizabethkilmer/ Learn more about Game to Grow at https://gametogrow.org Learn more about Critical Core at https://gametogrow.org/essentials/ Use the code "essentials" for a 10% discount! Where's Brendan? November 1st– I'll be doing a live webinar for ADDitude on how teachers and parents can help lonely teenagers who are dealing with peer rejection. November 7th– I'm part of the Putting Mama First Virtual Summit where I'll be talking about why setting boundaries is part of self-care, and how to set them. November 7th– I'm also part of the See Beyond ADHD Virtual Summit.  This one is a more free ranging interview where I talk about everything from the foundations of ADHD management, to homeschooling, to why we should give ourselves more credit. November 17th– I'll be at the International Conference on ADHD in Texas sharing a workshop on for ADHD professionals on how to be a good podcast guest. November 18th– I'll still be at the ADHD conference, and I'll be hosting a panel of ADHD influencers featuring Jessica McCabe, René Brooks, John Hazelwood, and Dani Donovan. December 3rd - I'm on a panel at the board gaming convention, PAX Unplugged in Philly, talking about the relationships between ADHD and Dungeons and Dragons. ADHD Essentials Links:   Learn about & Register for the The ADHD Essentials Online Parent Coaching Groups  Join Our Facebook Community Check out the ADHD Essentials Homepage Contact Brendan at brendan@ADHDessentials.com   ADHD reWired Podcast Network Plugs: ADHD reWired Hacking Your ADHD ADHD Essentials ADHD Diversified ADHD Friendly Lifestyle 

This week I had a fantastic chat with Dani Donovan, graphic designer turned ADHD social media influencer and educator. Her witty and informative comics and graphics have helped thousands, especially women, understand more about ADHD and themselves. Dani also has her first book coming out soon - The Anti Planner: How To Get Sh*t Done When You Don't Feel Like It.  She is upbeat without downplaying the challenges that come with living with ADHD. Listen in to her lively and inspiring story.

The ADHD Super Conference is around the corner. On this episode of Attention Talk Radio, ADHD coach Jeff Copper (https://digcoaching.com) interviews conference co-chair Dr. Ari Tuckman (http://adultADHDbook.com) around what you can expect, and changes in this year's conference. He will also share interviews from Caroline Maguire, Dani Donovan, and Melissa Orlov, this year's featured speakers, to get a glimpse of topics that will help you learn, laugh, and connect.    Attention Talk Radio is the leading site for self-help Internet radio shows focusing on attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and attention deficit disorder (ADD), including managing symptoms of attention deficit disorder, adults with ADD, or adults who have children with ADHD. Attention Talk Radio, hosted by attention coach Jeff Copper, is designed to help adults and children (particularly those diagnosed with or impacted by attention deficit disorder or its symptoms) in life or business who are stuck, overwhelmed, or frustrated. It will help adults and children get unstuck and moving forward by helping to open their minds and pay attention to what works.   Attention Talk Radio host Jeff Copper is an ADHD coach. To learn more about Jeff go to www.digcoaching.com.

Sara Lerner is a mom and a radio journalist. She doesn't have ADHD, but she is married to her husband who has ADHD. In the beginning, her and her husband had struggles in their relationship. She doesn't blame ADHD, but now knows that it did play a role. Now that they both understand ADHD, Sara has become an advocate. She wanted to help others that were going through similar situations. Her Resources: ■ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sjlerner/   ■ Email: Sjlerner@gmail.com Other Resources: ■ Ned Hallowell's Podcast ■ Clubhouse Rooms ■ Jenn Has ADHD - https://www.instagram.com/jennhasadhd/ ■ Dr. Russell Barkley ■ Dani Donovan - https://www.instagram.com/danidonovan/

Dani Donovan is a purpose-driven designer who creates cathartic ADHD (attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder) illustrations and a community of validation and solidarity for adults living with ADHD. Her first infographic, “ADHD Storytelling,” went viral within hours and amassed over 100 million views. Her work has been reposted by celebrities like Mindy Kaling and featured in publications like the BBC. In a few short months, Dani's relatable comics and her #NeurodiverseSquad hashtag helped her quickly become a prominent voice in the online mental health community. Her comics, jokes, Twitter threads, and TikTok videos aim to help those with ADHD understand themselves, feel a sense of belonging, and better explain their invisible struggle to loved ones. Dani's influence has helped hundreds of people seek diagnosis and treatment for ADHD. She recently left her full-time job to create ADHD content full-time; you can support her work at patreon.com/danidonovan or view comics (and her online shop!) at ADHDDD.com. Tune in as Dani shares: that she also lives with bipolar II and undiagnosed EDS (Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome) why “annoying” is a trigger word for her that she was initially diagnosed with depression; then subsequently dysthymia (persistent depressive disorder), anxiety, and panic disorders how her ADHD presented very differently from the way it did among boys her age, which made her fall under the radar of diagnosis until she was in college how ADHD affects her daily executive functions and impulsivity how her behavior doesn't always align with her expectations, and leads to a cycle of guilt and shame how avoidance plays into ADHD symptom manifestation, and can become debilitating how ADHD and OCD can occur concurrently how her ADHD impacts continuity of care within the medical system “ADHD tax” — when those living with ADHD end up paying more than others because the system is stacked against their success why forming new habits is tremendously difficult for those living with ADHD how her art allows her to communicate her experience with purpose how her work has changed lives — and why that gives her ongoing purpose why social media has been such a rich resource for her her advice for living with ADHD and neurodiversity

Michele Hansen  00:00Welcome back to Software Social. This episode is sponsored by the website monitoring tool, Oh Dear. If you've listened to this podcast for any amount of time, you know that I'm passionate about customer service and listening to customers. A few months ago, we noticed something wasn't working on the Oh Dear dashboard. We reported it to them, and they fixed it almost immediately. Everybody has bugs occasionally, but not every company is so responsive to their customers, and we really appreciate that. You can sign up for a 10 day free trial with no credit card required at OhDear.app. Colleen Schnettler  00:35So Michele, I'd love to hear about how things are going with the book.  Michele Hansen  00:40They're going. Um, so after our episode with Sean last week, I realized that I kind of, I have to launch this thing eventually, right?  Colleen Schnettler  00:54Yes.  Michele Hansen  00:55And, you know, for, you know, I mean, for months I've been hearing that advice of, you know, do a, do a presale and like, start selling it beforehand, And, and I was like, yeah, I mean, you know, I, that's the best practice. That makes sense. And then just kind of be like, but that doesn't apply to me, right? Like, I couldn't make, um. It's, you know, it's funny, because it's almost, I feel like the way people feel about when they hear about customer interviewing, they're like, that sounds really valuable and like the right thing to do, and I'm just gonna act like that doesn't apply to me.  Colleen Schnettler  01:29Yep.  Michele Hansen  01:30So that's kind of how I was, and talking to Sean really kind of got me to be like, okay, okay, fine. I should actually sit down and do this. So I got a very simple website together, and then I actually did end up launching the presale.  Colleen Schnettler  01:46Oh, congratulations.  Michele Hansen  01:48Yeah, that was super scary. Like, because the book  Colleen Schnettler  01:50I bet. Michele Hansen  01:53And, like, random places where it says like, insert graphic here. Colleen Schnettler  02:01So tell us how many books have you sold?  Michele Hansen  02:03Okay, yeah, so I guess I get to do, like, a numbers update for the first time. This is fun. Um, so I have sold 34 copies.  Colleen Schnettler  02:15Wow.  Michele Hansen  02:16Presale. Colleen Schnettler  02:17That's a lot.  Michele Hansen  02:18So, and that's not including for like, you know, platform fees and whatever. Just like, you know, $29 times 34, basically. $986.  Colleen Schnettler  02:32That's amazing. Congratulations!  Michele Hansen  02:35So close to that, like, 1000 mark, which, I was talking about this with Mathias earlier, and he's kind of like, I feel like that's like a, you know, that's like, the legit threshold, is 1000. Like, and I don't know why, but it's like, yeah, it's like that feels like, that feels like the, the, like, the first big hurdle.  Colleen Schnettler  02:55I totally agree. That's wonderful news. Congratulations.  Michele Hansen  03:00You know, I expected to feel excited, or relieved, or something positive after releasing it, or the presale, at least. And I gotta tell you, like, I just feel pressure. Like, I'm really glad I didn't do this sooner.  Colleen Schnettler  03:25Really?  Michele Hansen  03:27Yeah. Because now I have, you know, at least 34 people I can't disappoint. Colleen Schnettler  03:32Right.  Michele Hansen  03:32And I feel like, just like, the pressure to make something that is a quality product, like, I already had that pressure on myself to put something out there that I'm proud of.  Colleen Schnettler  03:44Yeah. Michele Hansen  03:46Now I have all these other people who are expecting that, and not that anyone has emailed me and said anything to that effect, but that's how I feel. And I was thinking about this earlier. And I was like, man, like, writing and selling this book has like, brought out all of these, like, vulnerabilities and, and self-doubt and everything, like all of this stuff that I like, thought I had dealt with and then it's, like, sort of like bursting out of the cabinet, being like, hey, I'm still here. So it's, you know, I mean, I have tools to, like, deal with that, but it's been like, oh my gosh, like, I thought I had dealt with, like, I never feel this way about anything about Geocodio, like, so.  Colleen Schnettler  04:33So, this is interesting, because I, when I was feeling a similar way, many months ago, I don't actually know if I talked about it on the podcast, but I had a very high value client that I had a great relationship with that needed a file uploader, and mine wasn't quite done, and I had this moment of terror, panic, I don't know, where I was like, I shouldn't use mine because, because if I put it on my client's site, like, it has to work, right? There's no get out of jail free card, Kind of like, you've now sold this book. Like, you have to finish it.  Michele Hansen  05:07Right. It's not just like, throwing it in a PDF and then like.  Colleen Schnettler  05:09Yeah.  Michele Hansen  05:10Oh, whatever, nobody paid for it. Like, it's not a big deal. Like, it's like, no, this is, like, this is serious now.  Colleen Schnettler  05:17Yeah. And I think something that, that I'm thinking of as you're talking about this, I remember at the time, Alex Hillman had a really great tweet thread about you're not scared of failure, maybe you're secretly scared of success.  Michele Hansen  05:32Mm hmm.  Colleen Schnettler  05:33It was really interesting. Like, just when you think about, like, the psychology and all of these new insecurities coming to light for you, like, maybe you're scared of success.  Michele Hansen  05:42You know, and it's so I feel like we should have them on the podcast more, because I feel like they are, like, Amy and Alex in some way are like characters on this podcast, they're just not actually on the podcast. But like, the amount we talk about, you know, 30x500 and everything. She had, I think, I think it was her, or maybe, no, or maybe it was Dani Donovan, the woman who does the ADHD comics. But I think it was Amy, had a thread, like, couple months ago that was like, you know, people with, or maybe, I don't know if she has ADHD, so I don't know if this was her. Okay. Somebody had a thread that was like, you know, people with ADHD, like, you don't ever feel accomplished when you finish something. It's just over. And then you're on to the next thing. And it was like, yes, like, I expected to feel something when I finally got that out there, and now it instead feels like, oh, now I have to put in the graphics. Now I have to do the cover art. Like now I have to like, like, it just, it didn't, there was never this, like, moment of, like, feeling accomplished or anything like that. It just, it just rolled into the next thing. Colleen Schnettler  06:58Interesting. I don't, I don't have that problem. Like, that doesn't happen to me. I mean, but it's interesting, I find that interesting because one of the things, for me, is when I accomplish something, even if, I feel like if I'd been in your position and I got the presales out there, I do feel that, like, internal satisfaction of hitting that goal, and that's what keeps me motivated. So, if you don't get that same kind of dopamine hit, doesn't that make the whole process kind of painful? It doesn't sound fun.  Michele Hansen  07:28Well, what I do get that from is people, like, you know, positive reinforcement from other people. Like, so I've been asking people for testimonials to put at the front of the book. And on the one hand, that terrifies me, and, and then on the other hand, when they do come in, and people are talking about how the, the book and also sort of newsletter and like, like, all this, all this stuff is all sort of meshing together, has helped them, and what it has helped them do, and how they wish they'd had it sooner and everything. Like, that makes me feel good. That makes me feel like I am delivering the, like, a product that is worth somebody paying for, and that I can be proud of seeing how it's impacted other people. But I like I, I don't really get satisfaction out of achieving things, which is really ironic, because I think about younger versions of myself and I've like, you know, I describe me in high school as an achievement robot, like. Colleen Schnettler  08:39An achievement robot.  Michele Hansen  08:41Yeah, you know, you're, like, just taking as many AP's as you can and your life is over if you don't get in a top college. You know, that whole, that whole song and dance that turned out to be a lie, because now I work for myself. Not at all bitter about that. Anyway, um, yeah, it's but, this, so that is really, like, keeping me going or like, people tweeting out you like, hey, like, what is the book coming out? And part of me is like, oh, my God, am I gonna get them by then? But like, I've been getting a lot of really good reinforcement from people, and that, and I think that's, for me, that's been one of the really big benefits of building in public is not, not necessarily knowing that, exactly that people are going to pay for it and how much they're going to pay and having that money up front, but knowing that I'm creating something that is useful for people. Like, that is what keeps me going. Colleen Schnettler  09:31That sounds great, too.  Michele Hansen  09:33But now I got to finish the damn thing, so.  Colleen Schnettler  09:35Yeah. Now you gotta finish it.  Michele Hansen  09:37I was saying that the release date would be June 24. I actually just had to push that back to July 2, because I just, I don't think I have enough time.  Colleen Schnettler  09:44Yeah. Michele Hansen  09:45I do have an idea for the cover. Like, I want it to be like a terminal printout that's like, basically like installing, like, you know, like installing like empathy and like, loading scripts. Colleen Schnettler  10:00That'll be cute.  Michele Hansen  10:01Like, sort of corny. Developers aren't the only audience for it. But I also want them to know that this is a resource that is, like, accessible to them.  Colleen Schnettler  10:14Yeah. Michele Hansen  10:15I don't know. I have zero artistic abilities, like, I can't even, like, think visually, like, so I have so many people who are reviewing the draft right now, which is pretty amazing. Some of them are, like, super close friends of mine who are harsh editors, and I'm super grateful for that. And others are, like, people I have never even met who are so, I guess, so taken with, with the idea of the book that they're, like, helping me edit it, and I have never met them before, which is just so moving. But anyway, so someone has been giving me a lot of feedback on like, oh, like, this should be a graphic and like, this should be a graphic. And I'm like, I'm so glad you're saying that because it would have never occurred to me that that could be a graphic because I communicate in speech, and in text, and there's -  Colleen Schnettler  11:01Yeah. Michele Hansen  11:01Not a whole lot of pictures going on.  Colleen Schnettler  11:03Yeah. Michele Hansen  11:04So, so, yeah, I gotta kind of get all of, all that together in the next couple weeks. And like, hopefully release the, like, the print-on-demand version at the same time, but it's unclear. And then after that, I get to do the audio book, which, honestly, I'm really looking forward to, because then I just have to read the book out loud and as a podcaster, I'm like, I got that. Like, this does not involve any pictures. Like, I am good. Colleen Schnettler  11:32No pictures required.  Michele Hansen  11:33No art skills required. Colleen Schnettler  11:36Are you gonna hire someone to do the graphics? Have you figured that out yet?  Michele Hansen  11:39No, I've been making them in PowerPoint.  Colleen Schnettler  11:42Okay. I'm just saying there's - Michele Hansen  11:45Really simple. Like, there's not going to be like, pictures-pictures, like. Colleen Schnettler  11:47Okay. Michele Hansen  11:48If it turns out this book is a huge hit and I need to do a version that actually has pictures and like, somebody doing, like, professionally doing the layout then like, yeah, I'll, I'll do that, but.  Colleen Schnettler  11:59Yeah, so. Michele Hansen  11:59I mean, so like, more like flowcharts if anything, or like, putting something in a box so that it's, like, called out like even that kind of stuff. My brain is like, doesn't.  Colleen Schnettler  12:09Have you ever seen, there's a couple of people I've met at conferences that are developers, but they're also visual thinkers. And so they'll like, make sketch notes of someone's conference talk. Have you ever seen these? I'm going to send you some after the podcast. They're so cool. I mean, for your, for, you know, especially to hit, like, the developer audience, that would be, and that might be like version two of the book, but like, like sketch notes, or something would be super cool. Like, I could see a lot of cool opportunities here.  Michele Hansen  12:37Yeah, I tried to use something called Excalidraw, and I think my problem is like, I just don't think visually.  Colleen Schnettler  12:47Yeah. Michele Hansen  12:47Like, I never graduated beyond stick figures. My, my efforts that were beyond stick figures are hilarious. Like actually, like, yeah. Um, so I probably should, like, should bring that in, you know. But again, I mean, the book has only made, you know, just under $1,000. So I'm not, I'm not, I don't really want to, like, go out and hire an artist for a couple $1,000 for it. Like, I don't feel like that's a reasonable- Colleen Schnettler  13:21Not yet. Not yet. Right. I mean, that might be in the future. Yeah. I feel like that's not yet. I totally get that.  Michele Hansen  13:27Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, so that's-  Colleen Schnettler  13:34It's exciting. I'm glad we gave you that push. I mean, I kind of felt like I gave you that push when I was basically like, you're gonna have this up by the time we launch this podcast, right. I'm happy. I hope it wasn't too stressful. But I'm happy you got there.  Michele Hansen  13:49I think I needed the external deadline because- Colleen Schnettler  13:52Yeah.  Michele Hansen  13:52And again, this is kind of one of those, for me, ADHD things. Like, I need an external deadline because if it's a deadline I've come up with then it's not happening. But like, the reason why the book was, is gonna be out by July 2 is because, like, our, well, it was gonna be June 23 because our daughter finishes school for the year on June 25. So I was like, it has to be out before she gets out of school. But then I remember that she has a week of summer camp. So I'm like, okay, I have another week.  Colleen Schnettler  14:16You have one more week. Michele Hansen  14:18No, it has to be done before she gets out of camp because otherwise then I, you know, I won't have as much time, so.  Colleen Schnettler  14:25Yeah. Michele Hansen  14:25External deadline. Super helpful. Yeah. How's, how's stuff in Simple File Upload world? Colleen Schnettler  14:33So, things are good. I, you know, signups have still been consistent, but because I lost that big customer, I'm just below 1k MRR. So I haven't really seen that reflected in-  Michele Hansen  14:48Is the big customer the one that, like, wasn't using it and you couldn't get in touch with them?  Colleen Schnettler  14:53No, that person's still there, but like, I lost one person that was, like, a tier below that, which is, because I have three tiers. And so things are fine. I mean, I'm not seeing a big increase, or really any movement on the revenue because of the churn at that level, at that more expensive level. But I'm pretty excited about some of the things I'm going to be trying to do in the next couple months. My summer is crazy. So I had at first resigned myself to just not really working on Simple File Upload for a couple months. I was like, I'm just gonna let it sit. It's doing great. It requires almost no customer support. But then,  Michele Hansen  15:32I mean, a thousand dollars a month, and then it recurs is like.  Colleen Schnettler  15:35Right! It's like, I mean, okay, can we talk about how awesome this is? By the way, this is awesome. Like, after fees and stuff, after I pay my hosting fees, and my storage fees and my Heroku fees, I clear like 606, 650. Like, that's like, pretty cool.  Michele Hansen  15:52Yeah. Colleen Schnettler  15:53It's like, I'm not so much. So I wasn't upset about this. But like, I just needed to see kind of where my life was and what I was doing. And I was like, I might just have to sit on this for a couple months because I don't have the time. But then I got an idea. So I am going to take, really what happened is I was really inspired talking to Sean last week about 30x500. I have never taken that course. But I read, like, everything Amy Hoy writes on the internet, and so I kind of feel like I get the idea behind Sales Safari, the idea being find where your customers hang out and find out what their problems are. Conceptually, it seems easy. I just haven't had time to do that. And him, he said last week that he spent 80 hours. Think about that. So he was trolling Reddit forums for 80 hours. That is a lot.  Michele Hansen  16:45I mean, I probably already do that, and there's no business purpose behind it. Colleen Schnettler  16:49It's just no focus to it, right? So, so that's, so I really think I'm at this inflection point where what I have is working. It's doing great. I don't need to build new, more features until I know what features people need. And as we talked about, I think two weeks ago, different audiences want different features. As a solo founder, I do, with a job, I don't have the bandwidth to build all the features for everybody. Like, I'm not trying to take on CloudFlare, right. I really want to niche down and find my people and build for my people. I can't do that until I know who my people are, and I still don't really know. So, I am going to hire someone to do some of the Sales Safari research for me since I don't have time.  Michele Hansen  17:42Oh. Colleen Schnettler  17:43Yeah. So I'm kind of pumped. And by someone I mean, my sister. She, yeah, so it's like, you talk about how, like, you love having a business with Mathias.  I would love to have a business with my sister. Like, I would love for her to be able to work for me, for this to become a real company, and, you know, for us to do this together. So she is just coming off her maternity leave. She has decided not to go back to her job. So she has only a little bit of time because she doesn't have a lot of childcare, so she has, like, one day a week that she's going to work for me doing marketing research and Sales Safari, and I was to kind of trying to teach her, like, what I think is useful. We're both kind of learning as we go, neither of us really knows we're just making it up. And we're gonna do that for the summer and kind of see where it takes us.  Michele Hansen  17:55Yeah. Wow, wait, so what is her background in?  Colleen Schnettler  18:35She's an environmental consultant. Michele Hansen  18:37Oh. Colleen Schnettler  18:40So she actually, it's in no way relevant. But she's, so really the deal is she's a writer. So in her job as a consultant, what they do is they, they have to write these, like, epic report. So her background is really in writing. So originally, she was gonna write content for me, and she wrote me a couple pieces, but it's really hard to come in, since she doesn't have the technical background, it's, I, and my, my audience is developers, like, I need really technical content. So I don't think she's going to fit as a technical writer. But she's going to do, she's taking a class in SEO. So she's going to do, like, keyword research, and she's going to jump into the forums and Reddit and try and like, find out what people's pain points are surrounding file uploads. Michele Hansen  19:24You know, it sounds like you guys have a good working relationship together. Colleen Schnettler  19:31Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, all problems, this stuff that I was thinking about. All problems are people problems, right? So, if you want to control your business, and I'm just hypothesizing here, the number one most important people, but the number one most important thing is the people you work with, and I can't think of anyone else I'd rather work with. So, I think she'll figure it out, or she'll hate it and if she hates it, then she won't do it anymore. I'll find someone else. But that's kind of our plan. I'm pretty excited.  Michele Hansen  20:02Like, yeah, you, if you have someone that you work well with, and you believe that they're capable of learning what you would need them to learn, then, you know, like, you trust them.  Colleen Schnettler  20:17Yes. Michele Hansen  20:17And that matters.  Colleen Schnettler  20:18Yes. Yes. So yeah. So this summer, for me, is really for, for Simple File Upload, I think, is really going to be a focus on figuring out what niche to serve. I was talking to another friend, and he just got a new job, and he works for a big event management company. And he pointed out, you know, he was, he actually mentioned you, because he listened to the podcast, and he was like, these huge companies, they don't care about the little guys who are making a million dollars a year. And his point was, they don't care. So he's like, if you can carve out a niche in one of these huge industries, like, you can be incredibly successful, and like, these big guys, they don't care.  Michele Hansen  20:58No. And you know, on your sister, it might be really interesting to have her do interviews with people because she will be completely coming in with a beginner's mindset. Like, I find this is something that is difficult for people to adjust to like, like, we've talked about when, when someone says like, oh, like, could I do this? And you start thinking through, like, whether they could and how you would implement it, or you know-  Colleen Schnettler  21:23Right.  Michele Hansen  21:24Talk about what they wanted to do, and you just like, oh, of course, you wanted to do this because of this, and like, you don't even question it. But she, but she would be like, well, why do you want to upload a file in the first place? Like, Colleen Schnettler  21:33Right.  Michele Hansen  21:33Well, how is that, how does that work? Because she's genuinely beginner. Like, I feel like, in some ways, the fact that I don't have a geography background has been an advantage for- Colleen Schnettler  21:45Yeah. Michele Hansen  21:46You know, for this because like, I don't come in, you know, with it, with all of these preconceived notions about why someone would want to do this.  Colleen Schnettler  21:56Yeah. Michele Hansen  21:56So I think that can be really interesting when she gets her feet wet, and kind of a sense of what's going on, to try to talk to the customers.  Colleen Schnettler  22:05I think that's a great idea. I hope we can grow into that. I definitely think there's opportunity there. I think of her as like you, and I'm like Mathias in the power couple building of a company. So we'll see. I mean, she wants to get into mark, we kind of are going down this route, because I don't have enough time. I want to do it, I need to do it, and she wants to, really she wants to transition into a remote career that's flexible, like most parents, and she's really interested in SEO and marketing. So, I think it's gonna be a fun little adventure. I'm excited to see what she finds out. Part of this was also, I think we've talked a lot about, I have an interest in no-code. So I had a call with the Jetboost IO founder, Chris. Michele Hansen  22:51Yeah, Chris. Colleen Schnettler  22:52Who, I believe, you know, as well, because you're a mentor and he- Michele Hansen  22:55Yeah, I mentor him through Earnest Capital. I literally just had a call with him the other day. Colleen Schnettler  23:02So I had a call with him, independent of your call with him.  Michele Hansen  23:06Which we didn't know about. Colleen Schnettler  23:07Which we did not plan, to talk about opportunities in the webflow space. And, so I think one of the first things I'm going to have my sister, well, not the first, but one of the things my sister is going to try and do this month is really see if there's a need in Webflow. The thing about Webflow is, in 2018, Webflow introduced their own file uploader. So before that, there was a huge need for it. Now, they have their own file uploader. So it might be that what I provide is no longer, you know, something people need or want. So before I go and build an integration with Webflow, I'm going to have her do some Sales Safari research. They have really active forums to kind of see what people are looking forward to see if there's opportunity there.  Michele Hansen  23:54Yeah, Chris was telling me that they have a, like, feature upload, like a feature up vote thing where people go in and request features.  It's exciting. Colleen Schnettler  24:03Yeah, I think it's gonna be great. I think, I think it'll be fun. It'll be good to have someone actually dedicated to reading Reddit and Webflow forums and Heroku forums and whatever, to try to identify, you know, the need there and in the file uploading space. And then with the SEO research, you know, I can then either write the content myself or hire someone to write technical content, depending on my time commitments, my time, you know, what I can do, so. Yeah. Yeah, I saw that. I think, you know, the interesting thing about file uploading and Webflow is they have a maximum size of 10 megs, and I, you can't do multiple file uploads at the same time. So the question is, how many people really care? Like, who really, did, are there enough people that are uploading large files, or want to do maximum, or, I'm sorry, want to do multiple file uploads at a time that it would be worth it for me to make an integration into that space. So, so, you know, she's going to kind of dive into that and see what we can find out and like, this is just gonna be a fun marketing learning time because I built this thing because I wanted to build something, as you know, and I'm really happy that I built something to scratch my own need because it's worked out really well. But I still haven't really honed in on who I can serve best, and there's lots of opportunities out there, so. Michele Hansen  25:42There's a lot to be, I think, sort of learned and discovered here, and, and also that SEO work you can do, that, like, that can also inform the kind of feature development that you do, too, like, because there, I mean, this just happened to us the other day, like there was something that I noticed we had a couple of customers ask us how to do, and so I wrote up an article about how to do it, and then, but like, to basically do it manually. And then I just saw this morning that it's, like, our top performing growing piece of content and has like a 400% increase in clicks, and-  Wow. And looking into like, oh, how might we add that? And it's like, okay, maybe we should like there's, you know, SEO isn't just for bringing in customers, but also for figuring out what, what people might want as well.  Colleen Schnettler  26:38Yeah, and you've said before, I think that SEO is your number one channel? Activation channel? Michele Hansen  26:44Yeah. We, we don't run paid ads. We don't do any outbound sales. Like, we occasionally sponsor conferences, but that's mostly because, like, our friends run them, and it's just like, kind of-  Colleen Schnettler  27:00Yeah. Michele Hansen  27:00To support our friends, like we're a sponsor of Longhorn PHP, the Texas PHP conference. But like, that's just because our friend runs it.  Colleen Schnettler  27:12Okay.  Michele Hansen  27:13It's not very, like, organized or intentional. It's just like, sure, like, we'll help you out.  Colleen Schnettler  27:18Now, when you do SEO, do you do, like, now you just said, like, you were talking to a customer and then you got this idea of a good page, but do you do traditional keyword research as well? Michele Hansen  27:34Maybe? Like, we use Ahrefs.  Colleen Schnettler  27:36Yeah, I don't, okay. Michele Hansen  27:39I don't know, I still don't know how to pronounce the name of that company.  Colleen Schnettler  27:42I know, yeah, I don't either.  Michele Hansen  27:43But yeah, Ahrefs, we use that. We used Google Search Console for a long time, which is honestly a really good tool, and it's free, because Ahrefs is, is pretty expensive. But yeah, you can do keyword research and rankings and referrers and all that kind of stuff. I don't keep a super close eye on it. Um, but yeah, whenever we're, you know, we, every so often, like every couple weeks or so we go in and look at what content is performing and what else we might need and whatnot. Colleen Schnettler  28:19Cool. Yeah, I don't know. I really haven't done, I've done absolutely zero keyword research. So I think it's probably worth our time to put a little bit of effort into that to see what people are searching for to get a better idea of how to use those tools. Michele Hansen  28:36Yeah, I mean, our approach is, you know, find those keywords and then write stuff that people might be searching for and show them how to do it with Geocodio, and I think I like that because I, and I think we talked about this is kind of something that I have struggled with with the book, is, like, I struggle with sounding salesy, like and writing, like conversion copy, like, it's just really something that I feel like I sound way too infomercial-y when I tried to write it. Like, you know, there are people who are really good at writing conversion copy and sounding like a natural human being when they write it, like, I mean, you know, Amy Hoy is one of those people. But I, you know, I might as well you know, be like, hocking something on the Home Shopping Network when I try to write it. So, so like writing be like, oh, you're searching for geocoding? Hello, we do geocoding. Here is how you can do it in like, like, all of these different ways you can do it and rephrasing all of those different things. And then here's where you can try it. And then here's where you can do it. And it's very, like, straightforward. That's like, maybe you need it. Maybe you don't. All of those options are fine. Not, like, buy this now or you will die. Colleen Schnettler  29:56Yeah, I'm hoping with our keyword research and kind of, like, since I haven't done this at all, you know, with what, the marketing research she does, as you've talked about, I think a lot of that is going to inform my content and building out future landing pages. So, that's really going to be a focus for me is like, trying to get content and you know, pages out there that appeal to people. Michele Hansen  30:24Well, I'm going to be spending the next week working on the book and you're going to be onboarding your sister and getting this research going. Sounds like we got our work cut out for us.  Colleen Schnettler  30:34It's gonna be a good week.  Michele Hansen  30:37All right. Well, I guess that'll wrap us up for now. Thank you so much for listening, and we'll talk to you next week.

Comic artist and mental health advocate Dani Donovan @DaniDonovan joins Paul to unpack all things ADHD--including some surprising and lesser-known symptoms. Check out Dani's ADHD themed comics on her website adhddd.com For more about Dani Website: adhddd.com Patreon: patreon.com/danidonovan Social: Twitter: twitter.com/danidonovan TikTok: tiktok.com/@danidonovan Instagram: instagram.com/danidonovan Facebook: facebook.com/danidonovanart Support Our Sponsors! This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp online counseling.  To get a free week go to www.BetterHelp.com/mental  Must be 18.  For those under 18 you will be redirected to or can go directly to TeenCounseling at  www.teencounseling.com  WAYS TO HELP THE PODCAST ______________________ Subscribe via iTunes and leave a review.  It costs nothing. https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/mental-illness-happy-hour/id427377900?mt=2 ————————————————————————— Spread the word via social media.   It costs nothing. Our website is www.mentalpod.com our FB is www.Facebook.com/mentalpod and our Twitter and Instagram are both @Mentalpod  -------------------------------------------------------- Become a much-needed Patreon monthly-donor (with occasional rewards) for as little as $1/month at www.Patreon.com/mentalpod    Become a one-time or monthly donor via Paypal  or Zelle (make payment to mentalpod@gmail.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Try Our Sponsor’s Products/Services --------------------------------------------------- See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Key Points From This Episode: - The panel shares their own experiences of streaming, from remote meetings to gaming. - Liz shares how she got into streaming, what she streams, and what she loves about it. - The benefits of learning something, live, on the internet, and embracing the process. - How live coding makes Liz a better pair programmer and helps her in interviews. - Her advice for getting your streaming set up right: start incrementally and build over time. - Why Twitch can be an intimidating place for those who aren’t familiar with it. - Using her platform for important issues, how she has dealt with bad actors and trolls, and why she doesn’t believe in “apolitical spaces.” - The importance of having trusted moderators in a space that can be toxic. - The everyone-is-welcome, no-gatekeeping environment Liz tries to cultivate on her channel. - Hear about the geolocation-based, anonymous, secret-sharing app Liz remade with Vue. - Some of the benefits for Liz of using Vue for that project rather than React or Gatsby. - How routing in Vue is simpler than nearly any other alternative library. Tweetables: - “I want people to see what it’s like when an engineer actually sits down to work because you almost never just sit down and code for two minutes and get something working. You code for two minutes and you get stuck. Then you read some docs and then you try something else.” — @lizcodes [0:06:49] - “I use my platform to talk about issues I think are important, because I feel it’s not worth it to have a platform if I’m not going to try to educate people or create a space to share issues. I don’t believe in apolitical spaces.” — @lizcodes [0:16:38] - “I have a goal to try to create a no-gatekeeping environment.” — @lizcodes [0:24:48] Picks Liz's picks: - ADHD Alien by Pina Varnel (http://adhd-alien.com/) and ADHD Comics by Dani Donovan (https://www.adhddd.com/) (Web Comics) - Knitting (https://www.knitpicks.com/kits/learn-to-knit-kits/c/300821), keeping my hands busy and my mind focused during meetings and videos - Kobo (https://us.kobobooks.com/products/kobo-libra-h2o), a super quality e-ink e-reader that isn't Amazon! - TCP/IP Illustrated (https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/tcpip-illustrated/020163354X/) (Book) for learning better about how the internet works (unfortunately I think the only place to get this book at the moment is Amazon or a subscription to O'Rilley books) - Queens Majesty Hot Sauce (https://queenmajestyhotsauce.com/products/queen-majesty-2-oz-sampler) (Hot Sauce) Resources Mentioned in Today’s Episode: - Liz Phillips on Twitter (https://twitter.com/lizcodes) - Liz Phillips on Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/illuminatedspace) - Nanette (https://www.netflix.com/title/80233611), Hannah Gadsby (Netflix) - Raspberry Pi Pico (https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-pico) - Baba Is You (https://hempuli.com/baba) (Computer, Nintendo Switch) - May I Screw Up Your Life?: The Official Guide to Ludi-Q's (https://bookshop.org/books/may-i-screw-up-your-life-the-official-guide-to-ludi-q-s-9781616235529/9781616235529), Jan Black - Twitch (http://twitch.tv) - OBS (https://obsproject.com) - Twitch 101 Thread (https://twitter.com/lizcodes/status/1241153715710631936) - Yik Yak (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yik_Yak) - Deaddrop Repo - Gatsby (https://www.gatsbyjs.com) - Netlify (https://www.netlify.com) - Galaxy Buds Live Eartip | Free Eartip (ENG) (https://youtu.be/Pm1zvVjdRQc), ZUYONI TECH (YouTube) - Enjoy the Vue on Twitter (https://twitter.com/enjoythevuecast) - Enjoy the Vue (https://enjoythevue.io) Special Guest: Liz Phillips.

https://www.255.it/ux Siamo tutti consumatori di icone, dal cruscotto dell'automobile agli smartphone siamo abituati a capire, interpretare e male interpretare quei simboli grafici. Ma cosa c'è dietro la progettazione di un icona? Nella puntata si fa riferimento al logo delle olimpiadi Tokyo 2020, in realtà quello citato non è il logo ufficiale, bensì un concept creato dal grafico Daren Newman. *** Una chiacchiera tra Paolo Meregalli e Gabriele del Vecchio, rispettivamente CEO e UX in 255. *** Canale Telegram: https://t.me/techtalks255 Canale Telegram per inviarci i tuoi feedback. https://t.me/techtalks255chat Citazioni e crediti: In realtà il logo delle olimpiadi citato non è quello ufficiale! resta comunque https://www.newscheck.it/logo_olimpiadi_tokyo_2020_finto_fake_ultime_notizie-4666204.html i sette principi di progettazione delle icone https://uxdesign.cc/7-principles-of-icon-design-e7187539e4a2 Susan Kare - https://vimeo.com/97583369 Rita Bertelli - http://ritabertelli.com/ https://material.io/design cover by Dani Donovan - https://twitter.com/danidonovan?s=20 --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/255/message

In this episode, we discuss Vanessa's recent realization that she might--like Doug--have ADHD. Doug shares some of his favorite resources that he's come across, and we go on all sorts of tangents--just as an ADHD conversation should be. [TRIGGER WARNINGS: Racial Stereotypes, Appropriation, Mental Illness, Chronic Pain/Fatigue, ADHD Problems, Sexism, and Doctors Who Don't Listen to Patients] The games Vanessa mentions at the beginning of the episode are Black Card Revoked and I Dissent. Vanessa has been working on converting her personal music library into a Spotify playlist. One of those songs is "Distance" by Christina Perri. Doug knows this because she recorded herself singing it before he longed on. LOL. Doug has been working on learning French, Spanish, German, and Turkish--creating quizzes for himself with R programming. Here's how he's doing so far... Doug also mentioned a project he's undertaking to document all of his favorite excerpts from the books he owns, prioritizing entries based on the diversity of the authors. He used the Inclusivity Index to determine the criteria for that. It's a really cool research project from Berkley's Othering & Belonging Institute. In this episode, Vanessa was drinking Kraken Black Spiced Rum and Doug was drinking Blake's Hard Cider Rainbow Seeker. Now for the more useful stuff... Vanessa thought she might have ADHD when she stumbled across this TikTok. Then, when she looked at the "ADHD in Women Symptom Checklist" (ADDitude is an excellent ADHD resource, by the way) and this article from Health.com, everything seemed to be spot on! Doug mentioned one of his favorite ADHD people, graphic designer Dani Donovan, who you can follow on Twitter and TikTok @danidonovan. Here are two of the images from Dani that we mention in the episode:       Doug also mentioned another of his favs, Jessica McCabe, who runs the YouTube Channel "How to ADHD" and delivered a killer TED Talk about ADHD called "Failing at Normal." Some other ADHD resources Doug recommends: Rene Brooks (on Twitter @BlkGirlLostKeys) ADHD Alien (on Twitter @ADHD_Alien) Adulting with ADHD (on Twitter @ADHDAdulting) Anna Whateley (on Twitter @AnnaWhateley) Finally, Doug mentioned a great article from Elle Rose (@ScretLadySpider on Twitter). If you're an adult that has been newly diagnosed with ADHD or are considering seeking out a diagnosis, this piece is a must read! Doug also mentioned that he thinks he might have Myalgic Encephalomyelitis (a.k.a "Chronic Fatigue Syndrome"). We're sure you'll hear more about that in the future... This episode was recorded on September 10, 2020. 

Hello Adulting With ADHD fam!Today will be my last episode of the podcast. It was a difficult decision, but I'm not going anywhere. I have simply decided to shift my time and resources to other projects, such as the online community, which you can find at adultingwithadhd.com/club. I couldn't have found a better way to end the show than this interview with Dani Donovan of ADHD Comics. This unedited interview truly encapsulates what I set out to do back when I first started the show: normalizing ADHD in women and reminding you that you are not alone.To support Dani, check out her Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/danidonovan! ************** ✅ More Resources for ADHD Women @ adultingwithadhd.com.

Who are we? Like, literally. Who are these people doing this podcast? But also, like, existentially? How do we identify? In our first episode, we discuss how we handle ice breakers, the aspects of our identities that most resonate with us, and whatever random tangent our brains push us toward. Using Doug's current Twitter bio as an impromptu guide, we start off our conversation on identity by focusing on religion, sexuality, and mental health. This is a big topic, so we're planning for at least a part two coming next Tuesday. Stay tuned! [TRIGGER WARNINGS: bisexual/asexual erasure, religious indoctrination, sexual abuse, purity culture, rape, depression, mental illness] Show Notes Minute 01: We discuss icebreakers and how they answer the dreaded 'tell me about yourself' prompt. Doug references an scene from the TV show Crazy Ex-Girlfriend Season 2 Episode 4. He's a huge fan of the show and will likely reference it again, so here's the entire CXG song list in chronological order--if you want to do some homework.  Minute 09: We continue by discussing the difference between the 'tell me about yourself' question and the 'tell me who you are' question. Which aspects of our identities do we claim as us? Since Doug uses several such identifiers in his current Twitter bio, we decide to use it as a guide for the remainder of the discussion. One part of his current bio worth calling out is the recommendation to follow @kaitlincurtice and buy her new book. Kaitlin is an indigenous speaker, writer, and poet who champions decolonization from a faith-based perspective. Doug is a huge supporter! Minute 13: Doug's current Twitter bio begins with the phrase, "Liberation is my theology." We start unpacking our identities by talking about religion. Doug attempts to give a white guy explainer for Vanessa on what liberation theology is, including lowkey bragging about a tweet he is embarrassingly proud of. Vanessa expresses the difficulty she has in seeing religion as a framework for good (both Vanessa and Doug--but especially Doug--have roots in Evangelical Christianity). We continue talking for several minutes about the intersection of religion, belief systems, and ethics. Doug's spirituality is entirely about his ethical convictions and he doesn't really believe in any thing supernatural at all--even though he identifies as a Christian. Vanessa identifies more with pagan spirituality, but does tend to believe in--as Doug would describe it--"woowoo" stuff. Minute 22: We move on to the next part of Doug's Twitter bio, "aro/ace." In terms of sexual orientation, Doug identifies as aromantic and asexual, while Vanessa identifies as bisexual. We both express surprise and excitement that it turns out we're both part of the "rainbow club." We talk about gatekeeping in the queer community, and how each of our respective orientations are often excluded for various reasons. We touch on rape/sexual abuse and the impact it may or may not have on sexual orientation. Finally, we talk about purity culture and its relationship to the development (or lack thereof) of sexual attraction. "The people who fought to build this community and bring this community out of the darkness did not do so so that we could all be assholes to each other." - Vanessa [CLICK TO TWEET] "You can still accept who you are regardless of how you came to be that way." - Doug [CLICK TO TWEET] Minute 35: The last identifier we cover centers around the concept of neurodiversity. One of Doug's hashtags is #NeurodiverseSquad (founded by artist Dani Donovan--another amazing human Doug supports), an online community Doug participates in, and Vanessa wonders if it's a community she'd be welcome in. What qualifies as "neurodivergent," and what qualifies as "mental illness?" Doug has ADHD, which is generally considered to be part of that club. Vanessa has BPD, and that doesn't get as much attention (if any) in the neurodivergent space. Vanessa and Doug both experience depression--does that belong under the umbrella of "neurodivergent?" Minute 44: After deciding to wrap the episode up and save the rest for part two, we go on to discuss the results of our first online personality quiz--a segment we plan on making part of the show. For our first quiz, Vanessa picked a BuzzFeed Quiz in which your personality is summed up in combination of one character from The Office and one character from Parks and Rec (both shows Vanessa and Doug love). It turns out that Vanessa is a combination of Erin Hannon and Chris Traeger, while Doug is a combination of Dwight Schrute and April Ludgate. FYI, Doug mentions a psychological assessment he took a while back showing which fictional characters most correspond to your personality. You can find that assessment here. This episode was recorded on May 6, 2020. Happy Birthday to our nephew RJ!