Podcasts about UTM

Every home service operator has a failure story.In this episode of Owned and Operated, John Wilson sits down with Jack Carr (CEO of Rapid Plumbing, Heating, Cooling & Electric in Nashville) to break down the biggest business mistakes they've made — and what those mistakes actually cost.From a $13,000 ad spend weekend that only generated $7,000 in revenue… to overpaying vendors for an entire year… to discovering $80,000 per month in unnecessary purchasing — this is a candid conversation about the operational blind spots that quietly drain profit.The surprising takeaway? Most major failures weren't dramatic. They were data problems. Process problems. Cash flow misunderstandings. And hiring financial leadership too late.If you're scaling a home service business — or planning to — this episode could save you years of expensive lessons.In this episode, we discuss:The $13K marketing mistake and how capacity planning changes everythingHow tightening purchasing controls instantly improved marginsWhy most contractors overpay vendors (and don't even know it)The hidden cost of software bloat and subscription creepConstruction vs. service cash flow — and why mixing the two can hurtWhy hiring a controller earlier would have changed everything

Tarence Guinyard has quickly established himself as one of the premier guards in the Atlantic 10 Conference. Now at Duquesne University, he ranks third in the league in scoring (16.4) and second in assists (5.0), powering the Dukes to a fifth-place standing entering the A-10 Tournament. His production and control of the game has elevated Duquesne into a legitimate postseason contender, as Guinyard continues to prove he can impact winning at the highest level of mid-major basketball. Before arriving in Pittsburgh, Guinyard starred at the University of Tennessee at Martin, where he averaged 16.3 points per game and earned All-OVC First Team honors in 2024-25. Prior to UTM, he was a dominant force at Florida State College at Jacksonville, compiling over 1,300 career points and earning FCSAA Region 8 Player of the Year honors while leading the program to its first NJCAA national tournament win. From junior college standout to All-Conference Division I guard, Guinyard's climb has been built on his efficient scoring ability and an elite court vision. Now, with Duquesne surging and championship aspirations, Guinyard's impact is peaking at the perfect time. A proven scorer at every level—from high school to junior college to Division I—he's evolved into a dynamic playmaker capable of controlling games in multiple ways. As the conference tournament unfolds, Guinyard has both the résumé and momentum to leave an even bigger mark. Available wherever you get your podcasts. Make sure to subscribe @Notevend2 ! Enjoy the episode.

If someone handed you $5 million… would you buy an HVAC business or a security/alarm business?In this episode of Owned and Operated, John Wilson is joined by Stephen and Collin from the Entry Exit Podcast to debate where they'd place the bet.HVAC has massive buyers, big platforms, and strong exit demand — but it's also weather-driven, cyclical, and much less “truly recurring” than most operators think. Security (especially commercial security) can offer real monthly RMR, faster tech upgrade cycles, and sticky accounts — but it comes with licensing complexity, scope creep, and higher-stakes failure points.If you're thinking about acquisitions, roll-ups, or just want a clearer lens on what $5M can actually buy in different trades, this episode is for you.In this episode, we cover:The $5M question: Why the “best” business depends on your goal (sleep-at-night vs. build-to-sell)Recurring vs. sticky revenue: Security RMR vs. HVAC memberships (and why they aren't the same)Commercial vs. residential: Where security wins, where HVAC wins, and how each segment behavesRoll-ups and multiples: What's getting bought right now and why commercial fire/security is heating upGeography matters: Why Texas (and other growth markets) changes the math

Book a free strategy call to see how we can help you hit your goals and beyond: https://bit.ly/3TvGiNW or call us at: (214)-453-1591Grab our FREE resource: The Foundation Series, Real strategies to build a business that runs (and grows) without chaos: https://bit.ly/3Yqzow5────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────“How did I do this before?”That's the number-one thing ServiceTitan hears from contractors after they make the switch. And now, ServiceTitan and CertainPath are officially partnered—which means the best coaching in home services just got paired with the most powerful software platform in the industry.In this episode of The Successful Contractor, Bob sits down with Joseph Morales and Phil Stern from ServiceTitan—recorded live at CertainPath's Eagles' Summit—to unpack what this partnership means for contractors, what's new with ServiceTitan's Pro Products, and why the AI revolution is already changing how you dispatch, market, and grow.Joseph has spent four years on the road meeting contractors face-to-face. Phil came from 12 years at Google, where he worked on AI solutions and partnerships with brands like Wells Fargo and Ford. Together, they break down ServiceTitan's biggest announcements—from the commercial and construction expansion to the AI-powered Dispatch Pro that's already proving your gut instincts wrong.What You'll Learn in This Episode:•        Why ServiceTitan and CertainPath partnered—and why Phil says “CertainPath's model was a perfect fit”•        The “How did I do this before?” moment—what contractors consistently say after adopting ServiceTitan•        How one contractor was spending 4 hours a day tracking time through email—and how geo-fencing automation eliminated it overnight•        Dispatch Pro: the AI tool that's matching the right tech to the right job for profit—and proving that your “best guy” isn't always who you think•        Marketing Pro: the most-adopted Pro Product, with smart campaigns, UTM tracking, reputation management, and AI-powered ad optimization•        Scheduling Pro: how to automate maintenance contract bookings and online scheduling—straight into your ServiceTitan dashboard•        Atlas and Titan Intelligence: ServiceTitan's new AI-powered voice and dispatching tools•        Titan Score: how ServiceTitan grades your software usage and tells you where to expand next•        The commercial and construction expansion: why contractors who dismissed ServiceTitan as “residential only” need to take a second look•        ServiceTitan's roofing push: the GAF partnership and growing adoption across trades•        CertainPath coach certification: 40–60 hours of training, full curriculum access, and demo accounts—so your coach knows the software inside and out•        Why ServiceTitan is “all in” on CertainPath events—not a one-and-done partnershipWhether you're already on ServiceTitan and want to get more out of it, or you've been on the fence about making the switch—this episode gives you the inside track on where the software is going and how CertainPath coaching is about to make it even more powerful.

What happened when the Spanish conquistadors lead by Francisco Pizarro came face to face with the ruthless emperor of the Incan Empire, Atahualpa? How did the Incas treat their strange, pale, alien visitors with their horses? And, why did a brutal, bloody fight to the death break out between the two sides after the meeting? Join Dominic and Tom, as they discuss one of the most totemic meetings of all time - the emperor of the Incas Atahualpa and the Spanish buccaneer Francisco Pizarro. Would either survive the confrontation that ensued? Become a member today and join us at The Rest Is History Festival at Hampton Court Palace on the 4th and 5th of July 2026. This is a members-only event. Join the Athelstans for guaranteed entry or become a Friend of the Show to enter the ballot. You'll also get ad-free listening, bonus episodes, exclusive miniseries and more.Sign up now at ⁠therestishistory.com and find out more about the festival here.UTM: http://therestishistory.com/club?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=trihfestival&utm_term=listeners&utm_content=episodedescription _______ Twitter: @TheRestHistory @holland_tom @dcsandbrook Video Editors: Jack Meek + Harry Swan Social Producer: Harry Balden Producers: Tabby Syrett & Aaliyah Akude  Executive Producer: Dom Johnson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Firing employees is one of the worst parts of owning a home service business — and the bigger you get, the more often it happens.In this episode of Owned and Operated, John Wilson is joined by Jack Carr (Jack Acquisitions / TriR) to break down a practical framework for terminations that's fair to the employee and protects the team.They walk through how to diagnose whether performance problems are caused by the employee or your systems, how to use clear expectations + coaching + PIPs to create a clean decision path, and why keeping a toxic “top performer” can quietly cost you your best people.What you'll learn:The first question to ask before any termination: “How did we get here?”GWC: Do they Get it, Want it, and have the Capacity to do it?How to run a Performance Improvement Plan that's real (not vibes)When to make a fast decision vs. when to coach longerWhy the “people who got you to $1M” usually aren't the people who get you to $10MThe hidden cost of avoiding the hard conversation: culture + trust + retentionIf you're struggling with when to coach, when to cut, and how to do it without guilt — this episode is the playbook.

Is direct mail actually back in 2026 — or is it a dinosaur channel that should stay extinct?In this episode of Owned and Operated, John Wilson sits down with Sam Preston (CEO of Service Scalers) to break down how the best home service companies are using direct mail as direct response, why some operators get 14x ROI while others lose money mailing the same market, and the exact levers you can pull to make mailers perform (audience, offer, format, frequency, and iteration).They also get into why “legacy media” still works when executed well, how to think about underserved markets, and why your offer + ticket size determines whether direct mail prints money… or burns it.Key Topics Covered:Why “someone in your market is winning” with direct mail (even if you think it's dead)The 4 audiences to mail (members → active customers → inactive customers → net-new)What formats work: postcards, letters, Valpak, door hangers, even “weird” creative mail

Peter Sachs, Head of Airspace Integration, Zipline spoke with Claudia Bacco, Editor-in-Chief, Global Airspace Radar about the 10 year path that has helped Zipline evolve to where they are at today.We discuss the market needs in two very different markets. The support of medical requirements via drone delivery in Africa and the delivery of food and household supplies in the US.In order for this to be successful, UTM is a key component. Building on UTM functionality, we look at Remote ID, electronic conspicuity, detect-and-avoid and more. These technologies all get us closer to autonomy, which is required for this concept to scale to it's full potential.

6,000+ #BVLOS flights. 50 miles of FAA-designated #UAS corridor. A 450-square-mile digital #airspace ecosystem. At Syracuse Airport, NUAIR proves that manned and unmanned aircraft can co-exist safely in one of the most complex airspaces in the US: “If someone's operating without remote ID in a critical area such as the terminal area of the airport, we can see their location, the hand controller and the drone — and tell local authorities that something needs to be done about it,” said John Gustafson, Director of Product Development and Technology at NUAIR. NUAIR isn't just visualising airspace; they're enforcing it. With radar-powered #surveillance, passive RF detection, and a fully cloud-based interface; they're making scalable, safe BVLOS #drone operations a reality in the US today. At CANSO's Airspace World 2025 in Lisbon, our Co-founder and CEO Eszter Kovács interviewed NUAIR's John Gustafson to explore how their FAA-approved infrastructure is redefining drone #commercialisation in New York State and beyond. Listen the full interview to learn how NUAIR is powering medical deliveries, military testing, and impactful #UTM services through a real-world drone corridor.

Should Home Service Companies Stop Buying Vans?In this episode of Owned and Operated, John Wilson is joined by Nashville operator Jack Carr to break down one of the most overlooked expenses in home services:Fleet decisions.With service vans now costing $60,000+ and fuel and repair costs climbing, John and Jack make the case for a radical shift:Ford Mavericks for service… and trailers for installs.They unpack why the Maverick may be the most capital-efficient vehicle for HVAC, plumbing, and electrical businesses, how truck stock changes operational discipline, and whether modular install trailers could replace box trucks altogether.If you're scaling a trades business and trying to protect cash flow, this episode offers a practical framework for building a leaner, smarter fleet.Key Topics Covered:Why service vans have become a drag on the balance sheetThe real economics of Maverick vs high-roof Transit vansFuel savings, lower capital costs, and fleet scalabilityTruck stock limits in HVAC compared to plumbing and electricalThe “install trailer” system: modular packouts for equipment installs

Does Google PPC still work for home service businesses—or is it just an expensive mistake?In this Clicks to Calls episode of Owned and Operated, John Wilson sits down with Service Scalers CEO Sam Preston to break down the truth about Google Ads (PPC) for HVAC, plumbing, and electrical companies. Some operators swear PPC is dead. Others are spending six figures a month and winning. The difference isn't the platform—it's execution.They walk through why PPC fails for most owners, how it's fundamentally different from Local Service Ads, and what has to be in place before PPC becomes a scalable, predictable lead channel. From budget minimums and landing pages to tracking revenue (not just calls), this episode lays out a clear framework for deciding if PPC belongs in your business—and how to avoid burning cash if you try it.If you've ever said “Google Ads don't work for us,” this episode will challenge that assumption.What you'll learn in this episode:Why PPC still works—and why most operators think it doesn'tThe real difference between LSA and PPC (and why PPC breaks first)Budget thresholds you actually need to make PPC viableWhy landing pages matter more than ad copyShout Out to FieldPulse

How do you keep growing fast without breaking your business?In this Owned and Operated supercut, John Wilson pulls together his favorite moments from recent conversations on what actually snaps when you scale: cash, leadership bandwidth, and the frontline experience that drives revenue.You'll hear why growth is expensive (in trucks, infrastructure, and overhead), how disciplined operators reinvest instead of upgrading their lifestyle too early, and why “the war is won inside the home” no matter how good your dashboards look.If you're running HVAC, plumbing, electrical, or roofing and feeling the strain of growth, this episode gives you the frameworks—and the hard truths—to keep momentum without chaos.In this episode, you'll learn:Why growth consumes cash (and how to plan for it)The “overhead body” you must build early: leadership, CX, SG&A, marketing, purchasingHow owners stall out by pulling cash too early (the lifestyle trap)Why playbooks beat ego: don't reinvent the wheel (Nexstar and more)Why frontline obsession matters more than dashboardsHow onboarding + clear pay plans create a culture that performsConnect: John Wilson: https://x.com/WilsonCompanies

How do you stop wasting money on marketing… and start building a lead engine that actually scales?In this episode of Click to Calls, John Wilson sits down with Service Scalers CEO Sam Preston to break down one of the biggest mistakes growing home service operators make:Hiring a marketing person too early — and expecting them to do everything.They walk through what your first real marketing hire should look like, why most owners misunderstand the budget math, and John's spicy take:If you're under $5M, marketing isn't complicated — you just need to execute the basics consistently.Whether you run HVAC, plumbing, or electrical, this episode gives you a clear framework for when to stick with an agency, when to go in-house, and what “good marketing” actually looks like when the board is light and you need calls fast.In this episode, you'll learn:Why “marketing is complicated” is usually an excuse under $5MThe difference between hiring a coordinator vs. a true marketing managerHow to know if in-house marketing actually beats agency economicsThe only good reasons to bring marketing inside (and the bad one everyone uses)

In this episode we sit down with Koen De Vos, Secretary General of GUTMA, to unpack why U-Space still feels more aspirational than operational, and what aviation can learn from industries that have at least partially managed to digitize at scale. Drawing on parallels with the automotive sector, Koen explores how green technologies, automation, and system-level thinking could, and should, reshape aviation if the institutional and political pieces ever align.We dive into why U-Space has not meaningfully materialized in Europe yet, the evolving role of regulators like EASA, and how European and US approaches to UTM diverge in both philosophy and execution. Koen also shares his perspective on air risk mitigation, whether U-Space is being used as a safety crutch, and perhaps most provocatively, who is actually willing to pay for UTM and why many business cases quietly fall apart. A clear-eyed conversation about political will, practical constraints, and what UTM might look like if we were brave enough to start from scratch.

This episode is a supercut of standout moments from multiple Owned and Operated episodes, focused on one theme: how great operators build, scale, and eventually sell home service businesses.John Wilson pulls together some of the most valuable conversations from past episodes—covering acquisitions, exits, org structure, leadership at scale, and what actually changes when you stop running a single trade business and start building a platform.These clips span decades of operator experience, from buying broken HVAC companies to leading a $600M national home services business, and now applying the same playbook to new industries.What you'll hear in this supercut:How serial operators think about exits from day oneThe difference between running a trade and building a sellable businessWhy growth breaks when leadership and org structure can't keep upHow multi-location platforms balance local autonomy vs centralizationWhat private equity looks for in home service acquisitionsThis episode is ideal for listeners who want the big-picture thinking behind acquisitions, roll-ups, and long-term value creation—without committing to multiple full episodes.If you're building (or buying) a home service business and want to understand how experienced operators really think about scale and exits, this supercut is a must-listen.

In this episode of Owned and Operated, John Wilson is joined by Sam Preston (CEO of Service Scalers) to break down how smart home service operators should budget for marketing in 2026. They explain why one-size-fits-all marketing budgets don't work, how to reverse-engineer spend from the number of leads you actually need, and why most companies don't have a lead problem—they have an execution problem.This conversation goes deep on gross profit–based budgeting, flexible marketing spend, and the exact frameworks operators use to decide what to scale, cut, test, or deploy in emergencies.What you'll learn in this episode:Why marketing budgets should be based on gross profit, not revenueHow to calculate marketing spend by backing into daily lead requirementsThe difference between budgeting for a new business vs. a 10-year-old companyThe 4 (plus 1) marketing budget buckets every operator should useA simple kill vs. scale framework to test marketing channels without guesswork

Topics Covered Influencer marketing as a modern demand lever in a “feeds are flooded” environment (credibility + distribution vs polish)Building an influencer program as a repeatable system (not one-off posts)Aligning influencer strategy to GTM motion: PLG + sales-led dual motion, fast sales cycle, and audience behavior on LinkedInTalent sourcing: internal creators, power users, frontline thought leaders, executive narrative voices, and “entertainer/evangelism” creatorsUsing influencer content as paid social creative (thought leadership ads) and deciding what to amplifyProgram mechanics: 3-month trials, post cadence, onboarding, briefs, review cycles, and relationship managementIncentives tied to outcomes (PLG signup bonus, ARR percentage via UTM)Measurement options: cost per signup, CPM/efficient reach, ABM-style reach goals, qualitative signals, and attribution constraintsQuality control: “smell test” for AI slop, engagement pods, and meaningful comment engagementActivation workflow: first-hour engagement, “let it cook” windows, reporting, UTM updates for paid vs organic, and distribution trade-offsQuestions This Video Helps AnswerHow do you structure B2B influencer marketing so it drives demand (not just awareness) without becoming random acts of promotion?How should a B2B team align influencer strategy to GTM motion (PLG vs sales-led) and measurement constraints?What's the best place to start: internal creators, power users, or external influencers?How do you choose influencer “types” (executive narrative, frontline education, entertainment/evangelism) based on goals?What contract length and cadence reduces the risk of declaring influencer “doesn't work” too early?How do you turn influencer posts into paid social assets using thought leadership ads?What's a practical incentive structure for creators tied to signups and revenue (UTM-based)?How do you spot inflated performance from AI-generated engagement or engagement pods?When should you promote a post, and when should you leave it organic?How can you evaluate influencer impact using CPM, reach, signups, and qualitative sales signals?Key TakeawaysIf you want results, avoid one-off influencer posts; start with at least a 3-month trial so performance can compound and audience association can form.In crowded feeds, influencer works because it combines trust with distribution; paid amplification (thought leadership ads) can make “small” creators valuable when the story is strong.Start sourcing from internal creators and product power users first; they're cheaper, more credible on use cases, and their content can be promoted to the right audience.Make onboarding and relationships non-negotiable: demo the product, ideate together, and set a clear review cycle so feedback doesn't show up only as late-stage Google Doc edits.Tie incentives to business outcomes and effort: bonus for PLG signups over the contract window, percentage of ARR from UTM-driven revenue, and paid boosts for high-performing posts (which also benefits the creator's audience growth).Don't boost everything: let posts run organically first, then selectively promote what's likely to work in paid (not every organic winner is a paid winner).Quality control requires human judgment: scan comments and engagement patterns for meaningful conversation vs AI slop, pods, or gamed metrics.

If you want to play the game on hard mode… randomly pick an industry and hope it works.In this episode of Owned and Operated, John Wilson and Jack Carr break down exactly how they'd build a home service business in 2026—and why the old 2016–2020 playbook is dead. They go deep on research-first market selection, avoiding late-stage consolidation traps, picking “boring” services with clean SKUs, and building a business that can win even when weather, competition, and ad platforms don't cooperate.In this episode, we cover:Research, Research, Research: Why “randomly picking a trade” is hard mode—and how to find unmet demand in a specific market.The 2016–2020 Playbook Is Irrelevant: Why advice from the late 2010s doesn't match today's competitive reality.Consolidation & Multiples: How consolidation changes outcomes—and why “gold mine” industries can cool off before you're big enough.Pick the Right Industry (Fragmented + Big TAM): What to look for in a winning service category in 2026.Boring Businesses Win: Drain cleaning, duct cleaning, leak detection, jetting, water filtration, septic, turf—simple offerings, repeatable operations.

Most security & life-safety companies don't get stuck because they lack hustle—they get stuck because they lack measurement.In this special feed drop of Entry & Exit, Stephen Olmon and Collin Trimble (Alarm Masters, Houston) walk through their 2026 planning process: how they set revenue/RMR/EBITDA goals, translate them into departmental KPIs, and use actuals vs. budget to decide when to invest, when to cut, and how to avoid “hope-based” growth.They unpack why so many firms stall around $3M in revenue (comfort + underinvestment), why “Talent Wins” became a non-negotiable, and how to think about emerging trends like AI the right way—starting with a solid tech foundation and the right people before chasing shiny tools.You'll also hear the core scorecard metrics they track across sales, marketing, finance, operations, and M&A, plus practical homework you can apply immediately in your own business.

In this week's High Value Publishing session, Eric Shanfelt breaks down a common problem that costs publishers renewals and credibility with advertisers: you are driving traffic, but your advertiser's Google Analytics is not giving you credit for it.Eric explains where “hidden traffic” shows up (often as Direct/None, generic email platform sources, or social referrals) and shares a simple system you can use to make sure clicks from ads, newsletters, dedicated emails, sponsored content, and social campaigns are properly attributed to your publication.You will learn:Why your traffic shows up as Direct, Email, or “missing”A simple UTM setup that makes attribution clearSource and medium naming that stays consistentWhat “normal” tracking gaps look like (and why numbers will not match)How to handle advertiser-provided UTMs without creating reporting messesLearn more at https://nearviewmedia.com/

Insurance claims, storm chasers, and broken incentives — welcome to the dark side of roofing.In this episode, John Wilson sits down (again) with Adam Cherup to unpack what really happens behind the scenes in roofing — from “deny, delay, defend” insurance tactics to the storm-chasing playbook that leaves homeowners stuck holding the warranty bag. They also get practical: seasonality, lead gen, cash flow, and what it actually takes to start a roofing business (especially in Florida).In this episode, we cover:The Insurance Game: “Deny, delay, defend” — and why carriers aren't your friend.Retail vs. Insurance Strategy: Why some roofers push retail first, then litigate the claim after.How to Win Insurance Work: Xactimate, codes, the paperwork game, and why payouts can double when done right.

Jenny Bristow and Vice President of Data & Technology Mark Brandes of Hedy & Hopp discuss their proprietary solution, Epic UTM Connect*, developed to help healthcare marketers bridge the long-standing data gap between digital marketing campaigns and patient acquisition and revenue within their Electronic Health Record (EHR) system. They explain the challenges of achieving true marketing ROI in a privacy-forward world and detail how this one-time project allows for patient-level attribution and improved performance measurement.Episode notes:The Data Disconnect: Hedy & Hopp created Epic UTM Connect to help healthcare marketers overcome the persistent struggle to access and show true business impact data (patient appointments, revenue) versus engagement metrics marketers can break down by UTM parameters.What Epic UTM Connect Is: A tool that captures UTM parameters from digital campaigns, packages them, and securely inserts them into the Epic patient record.Achieving True ROI: The ability to track a patient's journey from a marketing touchpoint all the way through appointment and fulfillment to calculate the return on investment (ROI).Easy & Fast Implementation: The tool is fast and lightweight to implement and doesn't require Hedy & Hopp to gain analyst access to Epic. Implementation only requires access to website analytics and the CMS.Technology & Compliance: The solution is HIPAA compliant and secure, leveraging the healthcare organization's existing Business Associate Agreement (BAA) with Epic. It works with any web analytics platform (Google Analytics, Adobe Analytics, Site Improve, etc.) by pulling data directly from the website.Use Case Requirements: The solution's effectiveness is dependent on the organization having a consistent and well-defined UTM parameter strategy in place.Attribution Limitations: The tool primarily provides last-touch attribution, meaning it will not capture the source of every conversion and will show gaps in the full multi-touch patient journey.Standalone Value: Epic UTM Connect is a standalone, one-time implementation that is valuable for improving visibility and does not require healthcare marketing teams to use other Epic marketing tools.Learn more about Hedy & Hopp's Epic capabilities: https://hedyandhopp.com/our-expertise/epic-for-healthcare-marketing/ Contact Hedy & Hopp to chat with us about how Epic UTM Connect can support your marketing efforts: https://hedyandhopp.com/connect-with-us/ Connect with Jenny:Email: jenny@hedyandhopp.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennybristow/Connect with Mark:Email: mark.brandes@hedyandhopp.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markbrandes/ If you enjoyed this episode, we'd love to hear your feedback! Please consider leaving us a review on your preferred listening platform and sharing it with others.*Epic®, Epic Systems, and related product names and logos are trademarks or registered trademarks of Epic Systems Corporation. This content is not affiliated with, sponsored by, or endorsed by Epic Systems Corporation.

In this episode of Owned and Operated, John Wilson sits down with Adam Cherup, a “disaster roofer” who's built a niche, high-margin business installing shrink-wrap temporary roofs after hurricanes, wind events, hail, and fires. Instead of blue tarps that fail in weeks (and often aren't covered more than once), Adam installs a manufacturer-rated wrap that can last up to a year (or longer)—buying homeowners, schools, hospitals, and commercial properties time while insurance claims and full roof replacements drag on.Adam breaks down the economics: 60–80% margins, typical residential jobs around $20K–$30K, and large commercial/school projects in the $150K–$350K+ range (with massive roofs reaching even higher). You'll hear how he gets work (including a key referral partner who pre-positions before storms), why this niche is best paired with an existing roofing operation, and what makes the job uniquely difficult: travel, logistics, training crews, and negotiating with insurers who hate the sticker price—but can't ignore the cost of “future loss.”If you like niche business models with weirdly great unit economics, this one is basically printing money… in a disaster zone.What You'll LearnWhat shrink-wrap roofing is (and why it beats tarps after storms)Unit economics & margins: how this can hit 60–80% gross marginTypical job sizes: $20K–$30K homes, $150K–$350K schools, big commercial upsideHow insurance actually reacts (and how Adam gets paid ~99% of the time)How the work is sold: referrals, pre-storm positioning, and inbound search demand

Referrals are still the #1 growth channel in home services — but most contractors treat it like hope marketing.In this episode, John Wilson sits down with Murphy Nadauld (ReferPro) to break down how the best operators turn word-of-mouth into a systematic, trackable, ROI-positive referral engine.They unpack why 83% of customers are willing to refer, yet only 29% actually do — and the three levers that close the gap: awareness, attribution, and automated rewards.You'll learn how top HVAC, plumbing, electrical, roofing, and restoration companies:Activate referrals directly through technicians in the homeBuild a B2B “affiliate army” (realtors, plumbers, inspectors, restoration partners)Tier incentives by job value so referrals scale without blowing up CACUse attribution and automation to make referrals predictable — not randomIf you're a contractor owner who wants referrals on demand, not vibes, this episode is your blueprint.In This Episode, We Cover:The referral gap: why customers want to refer but don'tThe 3-part referral system: Awareness → Attribution → RewardsHow “power referrers” actually emerge (and why spend ≠ referrals)Technician-driven referrals: QR codes, NFC, truck signage, leave-behinds

This is the literal easiest lever you can pull to add leads tomorrow: turn on (and properly run) Google Local Services Ads (LSAs).In this episode, John Wilson sits down with Sam Preston (CEO of Service Scalers) to break down why LSAs are still absurdly underutilized in home services—and how a simple setup + consistency flywheel (answer calls → book jobs → earn 5-star reviews) can ramp a business fast.They also zoom out into the operator view: how John evaluates acquisitions through the lens of marketing, why under-spent businesses with strong reviews are so attractive, and the biggest LSA mistakes they see (turning it off, wrong services/locations, and “set it and forget it”).If you're a contractor owner (HVAC, plumbing, electrical, etc.) and you want a no-excuses playbook to get more calls in 2026, start here.

We're heading into 2026 with one goal: stop losing money.Not “grow at all costs.” Not “try harder.” Just: build a healthy business that actually cash flows.In this episode, John Wilson and Jack Carr break down what they're cutting, tightening, and renegotiating in 2026 to go from ~13% EBITDA to 20% EBITDA—and why they're also targeting 10% net profit after realizing how big the gap can be between EBITDA and real take-home profit.They walk through the exact planning process they used this year (operational inputs → revenue → profit plan), then share the unsexy truth: most of the gains don't come from some magic tactic… they come from relentless efficiency—marketing discipline, killing bloated software, renegotiating vendor terms, tightening material spend, and finding hidden leaks everywhere.If you run a home service business (at any size), this is your 2026 playbook for getting healthy first—then scaling from strength.In this episode, we cover:“Just Don't Lose Money” Mindset: Why refusing to lose changes everythingProfit Planning for 2026: Planning off the P&L (not vibes)EBITDA Isn't a Light Switch: Why profitability is an on-ramp (and takes time)Marketing Discipline: Cutting inconsistent channels + tracking cancellation rateSoftware Bloat: The hidden $10K–$50K/month leak almost everyone has

What does success look like for HMRC with Making Tax Digital – and what does it really mean for the bookkeepers doing the work on the ground? In this Leadership Takeover Session, Craig Ogilvie, HMRC's Director for Making Tax Digital, explains the “why” behind MTD for Income Tax, how it will change the UK tax system, and why he believes bookkeepers are central to making it work for small businesses. Get step by step guidance on MTD for Income Tax https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/making-tax-digital-for-income-tax?Utm_source=6fb Craig shares his journey from a low-income upbringing in Scotland, through 20+ years in government delivery, to leading some of the UK's biggest programmes – including the furlough scheme during the pandemic. He explains how his parents' values around kindness and optimism shaped his leadership style, why he focuses so heavily on people and psychological safety, and how that translates into the way he runs the MTD team today. You'll hear a clear, human explanation of what MTD for IT actually is: digital record keeping, quarterly updates and software-based filing for millions of self-employed people. Craig talks about the three big reasons behind it – reducing errors in the tax gap, modernising the UK's tax infrastructure, and creating better customer service through more timely data and nudges – and why he sees bookkeepers as uniquely placed to turn that into better conversations about cash flow, credit control and business performance. He also explains the scale of the change: rebuilding core systems, working with third-party software through APIs, and designing multiple agent functionality so both accountants and bookkeepers can support the same client. Craig describes travelling around the UK to meet real practices, how those conversations led to changes like faster sign-up journeys and multiple agent access, and why HMRC is committed to genuine co-creation rather than “rubber-stamping” decisions already made. The episode goes deeper into social mobility, confidence and financial understanding. Craig talks about seeing his dad's January “bag of receipts”, the construction sector's heavy representation in the first MTD cohort, and the financial literacy gap facing many sole traders. He reflects on sessions with unrepresented business owners, where a clear explanation – often from a bookkeeper or accountant – can quickly change how someone feels about digital tools, quarterly reporting and understanding their numbers. ----------------------------------------------- About us We're Jo and Zoe and we help bookkeepers find clients, make more money and build profitable businesses they love. Find out about working with us in The Bookkeepers' Collective, at: 6figurebookkeeper.com/collective ----------------------------------------------- About our Sponsor This episode of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is sponsored by Xero. Get 90% off your first 6 months by visiting: https://xero5440.partnerlinks.io/6figurebookkeeper ----------------------------------------------- Promotion This video contains paid promotion. ----------------------------------------------- Disclaimer The information contained in The Bookkeepers' Podcast is provided for information purposes only. The contents of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is not intended to amount to advice and you should not rely on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. Professional advice should be obtained before taking or refraining from taking any action as a result of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. The 6 Figure Bookkeeper Ltd disclaims all liability and responsibility arising from any reliance placed on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast.

Be honest: have you set up automation… but not really adopted it? In this episode of our Leadership Series, Paul Lodder (VP of Accounting & Product Strategy at Dext) breaks down how to use Dext automation to create capacity, improve real-time reporting, and move clients from reactive to in control. Download Dext's Compliance to Advisory Guide, here: https://info.dext.com/compliance-to-advisory-guide?UTM_source=6fb Paul shares what he saw moving from practice to product: most firms sign up to tools but don't adopt features deeply enough to get the outcome. You'll hear what “real-time bookkeeping” actually means, why regularity matters, and how to structure people, processes and products so automation sticks. What you'll learn: - Spot why firms “go digital” but still don't get full tool value (feature adoption is the gap). - Build a Dext champion role that improves automation performance across your client base. - Shift clients from quarterly compliance to real-time bookkeeping and decision-making. - Use automation and regularity to unlock dashboards, insights, and proactive conversations. - Understand where AI helps (proactivity and capacity) and where it won't replace you (relationships and empathy). Try Dext as a partner: https://dext.com/uk/partner?utm_source=6fb and explore how automation creates capacity. This episode is for bookkeepers and accounting firms who want to stop chasing paperwork, reduce admin, and deliver real-time value, without adding headcount. ----------------------------------------------- About us We're Jo and Zoe and we help bookkeepers find clients, make more money and build profitable businesses they love. Find out about working with us in The Bookkeepers' Collective, at: 6figurebookkeeper.com/collective ----------------------------------------------- Promotion This video contains paid promotion. ----------------------------------------------- Disclaimer The information contained in The Bookkeepers' Podcast is provided for information purposes only. The contents of The Bookkeepers' Podcast is not intended to amount to advice and you should not rely on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. Professional advice should be obtained before taking or refraining from taking any action as a result of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast. The 6 Figure Bookkeeper Ltd disclaims all liability and responsibility arising from any reliance placed on any of the contents of the Bookkeepers' Podcast.

We break down how we tripled our HVAC average ticket—from $5,000 to $12,500+—and finally made sales profitable. In this episode, we walk through the painful mistakes, system overhauls, and process changes that turned HVAC from a money-loser into a real growth engine.If you run a home service business, this episode is a masterclass in why “selling harder” doesn't work—but selling better systems, earlier financing, and structured options does. We unpack how repair-first thinking killed profitability, why discount-driven comfort advising nearly sunk us, and how process—not unicorn salespeople—changed everything.In this episode, we cover:The $5K → $12.5K Jump: How our HVAC average ticket actually scaled (and why it failed at first).Repair vs. Replacement: Why “fixing everything” was a disservice to homeowners and the business.Sales Process Evolution: From selling techs → comfort advisors → systemized selling.Software & Systems: How structured options unlocked premium equipment and IAQ sales.Financing Strategy: Why introducing financing early boosted close rates by 13% and added ~$6K per job.

We reveal the real cost of running a home service business in 2025. In this full debrief, we open our books to show why plumbing business growth exploded while HVAC stalled, and exactly how we navigated the hardest summer in years.If you run a contractor business, you know 2025 was volatile. HVAC shipments cratered 49% YoY, forcing operators to face a brutal reality. In this episode, we break down the massive gap between our plumbing wins and HVAC headwinds, why "Always Be Recruiting" became our #1 survival rule, and how total financial transparency saved our bottom line.In this episode, we cover:The Industry Reality: Why mild weather and refrigerant transitions crushed HVAC demand.The Recruiting Crisis: Why we lost key techs mid-summer and how we fixed our hiring pipeline.P&L Transparency: The actual impact of overhead, margins, and "fixed" costs on a trades business.2026 Strategy: Our plan for a "Lean & Lethal" operation and new acquisitions.

In this episode of Owned and Operated, John Wilson sits down with Sam Preston, CEO of Service Scalers, to break down one of the most overlooked (and misunderstood) marketing channels in home services: Nextdoor.They unpack why Nextdoor feels annoying—but works incredibly well when used the right way. From neighborhood recommendation posts to organic storytelling, this platform behaves less like Google Ads and more like a digital referral engine.John and Sam discuss why salesy ads and coupons usually flop, while real-world job photos, personal narratives, and community-driven content quietly generate high-intent leads. They also explore how small operators are winning big by treating Nextdoor like a mix of Google Business Profile + Facebook Groups, and why larger companies struggle to replicate that authenticity.The conversation covers the three ways to win on Nextdoor (ads, organic posting, and commenting), common mistakes contractors make, and how operators can turn technicians into content creators to scale neighborhood trust—without blowing up their marketing budget.If you're looking for more phone calls, higher close rates, and marketing that actually feels like referrals—this episode breaks down how to think about Nextdoor the right way.What You'll LearnWhy Nextdoor behaves more like referrals than traditional lead genThe three ways to market on Nextdoor (and which ones actually work)Why organic, narrative posts outperform coupons and adsHow small, local operators beat larger brands on trustThe role of social proof in neighborhood-driven platformsHow to turn field techs into authentic content creatorsThe biggest mistakes that get contractors ignored—or kicked offHost: John WilsonGuest: Sam Preston

In this episode of Owned and Operated, John Wilson and Jack break down what “smart investing” actually looks like for home service operators—starting with the truth most owners miss: if you run a business, you're already an investor. You're investing money, attention, and people every day.They start with a practical framework for P&L investing (software, headcount, SG&A): if your business sells for a multiple, then any new expense should produce a return that justifies that multiple—otherwise, you may be quietly reducing enterprise value.From there, they unpack the difference between balance sheet investments (trucks, equipment, inventory) vs P&L investments, why banks and buyers mostly care about EBITDA, and how focusing on fewer initiatives can drive more profitable growth.Then they shift into the “outside the business” conversation: when diversification helps, when it's a distraction, and how operators can think in two buckets—cash-flow assets that fund life, and enterprise-value assets that build wealth.If you're adding software, hiring leaders, buying equipment, or debating real estate vs reinvesting in the core business—this episode gives you a clean way to think about ROI, focus, and capital allocation.What You'll LearnWhy every operator is an investor (capital, people, and attention allocation)A simple rule for P&L expenses: should this generate a 3x+ return based on your business multiple?The difference between investing on the balance sheet vs the P&L

In this episode of Owned and Operated, John Wilson sits down with Aizik Zimerman of Jay Blanton Plumbing (Chicago) to break down the remote staffing playbook that most home service operators still aren't using.John and Aizik start with a real-world story from a contractor event—how one company allegedly went from $0 to $6M using yard signs, and how Aizik tested it immediately (including the “don't put them on every corner” lesson).Then they go deep on what actually drives scale: building a remote-first, offshore-heavy team that works in the real world. Aizik shares how his business grew to 140 employees with 50+ overseas team members, and how he structures offshore hiring across accounting, install coordination, marketing, recruiting, dispatch, and fleet coordination.They break down the “hub and spoke” model: keep your US leaders focused on thinking and decision-making, then build specialized offshore roles to handle execution—so your business moves faster without bloating payroll.If you're trying to expand coverage, build specialization early, or you've wondered whether recruiting + dispatch + ops coordination can really be offshored, this episode is the blueprint.What You'll LearnWhy “if it can be done remote, it can be done from anywhere”The hub & spoke model: US leaders + offshore execution podsHow Aizik offshores technician recruiting (and why it's a massive unlock)Which roles are easiest vs hardest to offshore (CSR vs dispatch/install coordination)How to reduce “overemployment” risk with real systems (Zoom rooms, accountability layers)Why you should default to remote-first hiring at any size—even at $500K/year

In this episode of Owned and Operated, John Wilson sits down with Sam Preston — CEO of Service Scalers — to talk about the marketing asset that still quietly outperforms everything else in home services: your Google Business Profile (GBP). John and Sam break down why AI hasn't disrupted GBP the way people expected, how Google reviews are now getting pulled directly into AI search results, and why “map pack visibility” remains the cheapest, highest-intent lead source in the game.They get tactical on what actually drives rankings and calls in 2026. Sam lays out the three biggest needle-movers — proximity, category/keyword strength, and reviews — and John shows how Wilson Companies invests roughly $10K/month into GBP because it drives roughly $500K/month in sales. They go deep on why location is a marketing decision, how to scale multiple profiles without overlapping service areas, and why most owners waste time optimizing tiny details before locking in the fundamentals.If your LSA performance is lagging, your organic lead volume feels capped, or you're planning multi-location growth next year, this episode is the blueprint for turning GBP into a compounding growth engine.What You'll LearnThe 3 ranking drivers that matter most: proximity, primary category, review cadenceWhy location is a marketing decision (and how it changes growth overnight)How to scale multi-trade businesses without confusing Google's category systemThe real review strategy: frequency, volume, quality, and photos

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In this episode of Owned and Operated, John Wilson sits down with Ken Goodrich — legendary home services operator, turnaround specialist, and former CEO/Chairman of Goettl Air Conditioning & Plumbing — to unpack what it really takes to build, scale, and successfully exit a home service business.Ken shares the origin story that shaped his entire career: buying his first HVAC business at 25, getting crushed by payroll tax mistakes, and discovering The E-Myth at the exact moment everything fell apart. That wake-up call turned into a repeatable business-building playbook — one he's used to build and sell six home service companies, including taking Goettl from $11M in revenue and losing $3M to $250M across 11 locations and 1,000+ employees.John and Ken dig into the real mechanics of multi-location growth: why most owners hit a wall, how daily scoreboards and call-by-call discipline keep branches aligned, and what changes before you have a full senior leadership bench. Ken also lays out his view on the “sweet spot” for exits, when to bring on capital, and why operators should treat every growth phase like a 1,000-day value creation sprint.If you're thinking about acquisitions, preparing for multi-market expansion, or asking “when is the right time to take chips off the table?” — this episode is the blueprint.What You'll LearnHow Ken used E-Myth systems to go from tech-owner chaos to scalable processThe multi-branch management cadence that keeps remote locations on-trackWhy “easy lead years” create sloppy habits — and how to run with a scarcity mindsetThe real EBITDA thresholds that change your exit options and multiples

In this episode, John Wilson sits down with Patrick Dichter, owner of AppleTree Business Services, to break down what “good accounting” actually looks like inside a growing home service business — and why financial clarity becomes a competitive advantage as you scale.John opens up about a hard truth: he didn't get his first clean month-end close until last year, and it made almost a decade of decision-making harder than it needed to be. Patrick walks through the real stages most home service operators go through — from “Checkbook Charlie” to outsourced bookkeeping to in-house controllers — and the exact problems that show up at each stage.They dig into why growth eats cash even when the business is “doing everything right,” how bad accruals and broken CRM/accounting integrations quietly destroy margins, and what a simple cash forecast can do to keep you out of trouble. John also shares the painful lesson he learned in 2025: you can run a strong P&L and still get smoked on cash if you're not thinking about the balance sheet.If you've ever asked “where's my money?” while growing, struggled to trust your gross margin, or felt like your business is flying blind month-to-month — this one is for you.

In this insightful episode of the Women in AAM podcast, host Marilyn Pearson sits down with Amber Harrison, Director of Regulatory Affairs at Vertical Aviation International and a commercially rated helicopter pilot. With her unique blend of legal, operational, and aviation experience, Amber brings clarity to one of the most consequential regulatory developments affecting the future of drones and advanced air mobility (AAM): the FAA's proposed Part 108 rule. Amber breaks down why Part 108 represents a major shift for beyond visual line-of-sight (BVLOS) operations and how it will shape the integration of unmanned systems into low-altitude airspace. She explains the proposed framework for aircraft acceptance, maintenance, controller training, and third-party UTM oversight—highlighting how Part 108 moves the industry closer to scalable, autonomous operations. One of the most talked-about elements, Amber notes, is the proposed right-of-way hierarchy, which for the first time suggests unmanned aircraft may have priority over crewed aircraft under certain conditions. She explores why this creates operational complexity for pilots, regulators, and manufacturers—especially when population density maps, equipage requirements, and ADS-B/EC technology limitations are factored in. The discussion also dives into grey areas between drones and autonomous aircraft, raising essential questions about certification weight limits, governance, and future rulemaking for autonomy. Amber shares how VAI is advocating for a phased, safety-driven approach that acknowledges current technology gaps while supporting industry growth.

In this episode, John Wilson is on-site in Chicago with Aizik Zimerman, owner of J.Blanton Plumbing, to break down how one of the fastest-growing plumbing companies in the country built a sewer and drain growth engine. Since buying the $6M Jay Blanton business at the end of 2022, Aizik has scaled it to ~$25M this year and a $30M run rate — and nearly half that growth is coming from sewers. They unpack the investments, the operational build-out, and the marketing + sales system that turned trenchless lining into a repeatable, high-volume profit center. Aizik shares the exact playbook behind his “Unclogs for Dogs” offer, why they send salespeople with cameras first (no junior drain tech flip), and how they price lining as the cheaper alternative to excavation to beat inertia and win the market. If you're trying to add $5–$10M of revenue through drains, improve close rates, or build a trenchless division that actually scales, this episode is a must-listen.What You'll LearnThe 2022 → 2025 growth story: $6M to $25M+ and what changed operationallyWhy Aizik bet big on sewers while competitors stayed HVAC-heavyThe economics of lining vs. digging: pricing, margins, and why “cheaper lining” winsHow a $1M+ CapEx investment (UV curing trailers, jetting, prep teams) unlocked volume

In this episode, John Wilson sits down with Daryna Kulya, co-founder of Quo (formerly OpenPhone), to unpack one of the most underappreciated growth levers in home services: how you communicate as you scale. What starts as “one tech, one phone, one truck” quickly becomes a bottleneck once you're trying to hire CSRs, build a call center, and stop missing leads. Daryna shares the real story behind Quo's rebrand, why they're building for the long term, and how modern phone + text workflows are evolving with AI.They dive into the hard operational truth most contractors learn too late: you don't feel the communication pain until your customers already do. From missed calls, speed-to-lead, shared inboxes, and staffing by the hour (not the day), to AI call agents that outperform voicemail 3x, this is a tactical conversation for any operator trying to grow past the owner-operator stage. If you're scaling HVAC, plumbing, electrical, restoration, or any service trade — and you want to stop leaking revenue through missed calls and messy handoffs — this one's a must-listen.What You'll LearnWhy Quo rebranded from OpenPhone — and what that signals about the future of communicationThe hidden scaling trap of using your personal cell numberWhen contractors hire CSRs too late (and step out too early)Why staffing by the day hides the real missed-call problem

In this episode, John Wilson and Brandon Niro are joined by Zac Dearing from Mantel for a fast-paced, trivia-style breakdown of what homeowners actually want when buying HVAC and home services in 2025. Mantel just surveyed 500+ homeowners nationwide, and instead of guessing in the dark like most of the industry, we put real customer data on the board. John and Brandon compete to predict homeowner behavior — how many contractors people call, where they find you, what earns trust, how pricing impacts decisions, and what parts of the sales process truly move the needle.The results are a gut-check for any contractor, operator, or sales leader. Homeowners are still overwhelmingly finding contractors through Google and repeat relationships, AI search is basically nonexistent (despite all the noise), and reviews dominate how people assess quality. Even more interesting: millennials and baby boomers shop very differently, and the “price objection” narrative isn't as universal as we treat it in training. If you're trying to improve close rate, tighten your sales process, build real trust in the home, or decide how transparent to be with pricing and warranties, this episode is stacked with insights you can act on immediately.What You'll LearnHow many contractors homeowners contact before choosing oneThe real top channels homeowners use to find contractors in 2025Why AI search (ChatGPT/Perplexity/Claude) isn't driving discovery yet

In this episode, John Wilson sits down with Richard Dunbar of FieldPulse to dig into one of the most important — and often overlooked — levers for scaling a home service company: modernizing your operational platform. Whether you're running HVAC, plumbing, electrical, restoration, or any specialty trade, the shift from legacy tools to a true field service management system (FSM) is one of the highest-ROI moves you can make. Richard and John break down how contractors are ditching whiteboards, Excel boards, paper invoices, and manual dispatching in favor of flat-rate pricing systems, centralized pricebooks, technician-friendly workflows, real-time visibility, and true operational clarity.What You'll LearnWhy legacy systems cap your growthHow flat-rate pricing really worksWhere the real ROI of FSM software comes fromHow to remove friction from the entire customer journey The #1 mistake contractors make when trying to scale revenue 

In this episode, John Wilson and guest Rich Jordan dig into one of the scariest (and most valuable) moves you can make in home service: rebranding multiple companies into a single brand.Rich runs three acquired companies across New Hampshire and New Jersey…and he's in the middle of rolling them all into one new identity: High Ground Service Pros. They walk through why he's willingly tearing down a strong local brand (Sanford), what's driving the decision, and how he's trying to avoid losing customers, culture, or SEO in the process.From “house of brands” vs “branded house” to truck wraps, domains, Google Business Profiles, and core values (“seize the high ground”), this is a tactical conversation for anyone growing through acquisition or multi-market expansion.What You'll LearnWhen to keep multiple brands vs. going all-in on one — and how that choice impacts growth, culture, and marketing.How to execute a rebrand without losing customers — scripts, GBPs, websites, and call center tactics that actually work.Where the real ROI comes from — SEO, media, and operational focus once every truck and trade is under a single name.

In this episode, John Wilson and co-host Jack Carr unpack one of the biggest transitions in home service — going from owner to operator. What does it really take to scale beyond yourself? We dive deep into building layers of leadership, knowing when to delegate, hiring vs. promoting internally, and what the first real leadership hire should look like. From service managers and field supers to accountability systems and EOS, this one's for owners ready to break through bottlenecks and build real organizational depth.You'll hear real playbooks from $1M to $40M+ companies—how John and Jack each handled growth bottlenecks, where they stumbled, and what they'd do differently.What You'll LearnBottlenecks by Design: How to identify when you've outgrown your org chart. First Leaders: The real tipping point for adding service managers, CSRs, and field supers. Hiring vs. Promoting: When internal leadership makes sense—and when it doesn't. Accountability That Sticks: How to keep KPIs and culture aligned as you scale. Delegation Done Right: The tasks owners should've offloaded yesterday. Revenue-Focused Management: Why your first manager should drive numbers, not just tech skill.

In this episode, John Wilson and co-host Jack Carr break down how home-service companies can actually future-proof in 2025: flattening org charts, using AI to nuke overhead, building adaptable teams, and keeping a balance sheet that can take a 30% punch. We get into real numbers (gross margin, overhead targets, EBITDA), how to think about “risk on” vs. “risk off,” and why the middle of the market gets squeezed when big operators cut costs with automation.You'll hear play-by-plays on automating call centers, choosing what to systematize vs. keep human, when to de-lever, and how to bob-and-weave against giants who pass cost savings straight into marketing.What You'll LearnPeople vs. Systems: The two ways to future-proof—and how to train for adaptability.Automation That Moves the P&L: Where AI actually drops overhead (call center, dispatch, admin).Healthy by Design: Gross margin, overhead, and cash targets that create real nimbleness.Debt & “Risk Off”: How interest rates change the game and when to prioritize de-levering.Competing with Giants: What to do when national players cut cost structures by ~8–10 pts.Numbers First: Why you can't future-proof if you don't know your break-even.

In this episode, John Wilson sits down with Brandon Schlicter—better known as Investment Joy—to unpack how a viral laundromat video turned into a portfolio of laundromats, car washes, rentals, and now a fast-scaling commercial roofing company. Brandon shares the mindset shift from small plays to bigger bets, why he assumes success (and plans for failure), and how social media distribution can attract capital, deal flow, and talent.You'll hear the real numbers on union commercial roofing (margins, ticket sizes, pay cycles), how to decide between lots of small jobs vs. fewer big ones, and why “every business either sells or shuts down.” We also dig into storm-driven market entry, travel crews, and what it actually takes to scale estimation capacity and cash flow when receivables hit seven figures.

In this episode of The D2D Podcast, Hunter Lee sits down with Brianna Fitzpatrick, Founder and CEO of Digital Natives, a Phoenix-based digital advertising agency managing over $1M/month in ad spend for service-based businesses. Brianna shares her journey from running global ad campaigns to helping local service companies turn clicks into paying customers through smarter, data-driven marketing.If you're someone trying to generate more leads and build trust beyond the first knock, this episode is packed with gold. Brianna breaks down how simple, low-cost strategies like Google Business profiles, automation, and review incentives can instantly boost visibility and why authentic, low-production content often outperforms polished videos.You'll also learn why marketing and sales should never operate in silos, how tracking tools like CallRail and UTM codes can tighten your conversion process, and how to retarget unclosed leads for quick wins. Whether you're working with a marketing team or just starting from scratch, Brianna's actionable advice will help you build consistency, credibility, and a brand that sells long after the door closes.You'll find answers to key questions such as:How can digital marketing help door-to-door reps extend trust after the first knock?What simple tools can door to door people use to start building a personal or company brand online?Why are low-production, authentic videos outperforming polished content in 2025?How can marketing and sales teams work together to close more high-quality leads?What are the best ways to retarget and convert leads that didn't close the first time?Get in touch with Brianna Fitzpatrick: 

In this episode, Amir takes us through how to use Claude Skills to build digital employees. We cover practical demos including an A/B testing idea agent, marketing insight analyzer, and a live build of a tweet-to-newsletter converter. You'll learn what Claude Skills actually are, why they represent the biggest leap since sub-agents, and how to build them yourself—even if you've never written a custom AI workflow before. Timestamps 00:00 – Intro 01:05 – What are Claude Projects 02:40 – Sub-agents in Claude Code explained 03:34 – Introducing Claude Skills 05:58 – Context rot and the performance degradation problem 08:01 – Why matter Claude Skills Matter 11:08 – Building a UTM link generator with Artifact Builder 17:41 – Claude Skill Demo: A/B test generator for website optimization 20:32 – Claude Skill Demo: Marketing analytics insights from campaign data 23:40 – Building a Claude Skill: Creating a tweet-to-newsletter converter skill 30:32 – Final Thoughts on Claude Skills 30:58 – Why AI adoption is falling and how better prompting solves it Key Points Claude Skills are automated workflows that apply globally or per-project, pulling context only when relevant to specific tasks Skills solve the "context rot" problem where too much context degrades LLM performance and increases hallucination You can create custom Skills using markdown files with instructions, reference documents, and executable scripts The tweet-to-newsletter converter built live demonstrates Skills' ability to match tone and style with minimal training Poor AI fluency and prompting—not the tools themselves—explain why enterprise AI adoption is declining The #1 tool to find startup ideas/trends - https://www.ideabrowser.com LCA helps Fortune 500s and fast-growing startups build their future - from Warner Music to Fortnite to Dropbox. We turn 'what if' into reality with AI, apps, and next-gen products https://latecheckout.agency/ Boringmarketing - Vibe Marketing for Companies: boringmarketing.com The Vibe Marketer - Join the Community and Learn: thevibemarketer.com Startup Empire - get your free builders toolkit to build cashflowing business - https://startup-ideas-pod.link/startup-empire-toolkit Become a member - https://startup-ideas-pod.link/startup-empire FIND ME ON SOCIAL X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/gregisenberg Instagram: https://instagram.com/gregisenberg/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gisenberg/ FIND AMIR ON SOCIAL Humblytics: https://humblytics.com/?via=community  X/Twitter: https://x.com/amirmxt  Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@amirmxt