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Sean: It's a matter of awareness. Here's the thing for a leader like me, for example, to be aware, you're the CEO, you're the president, you're the founder. Here's the problem. Not a lot of people will say to your face that, "Hey Sean, this is the problem with you." And sometimes we could be blindsided to it. Totally unaware that we have that problem. The problem is people don't want to speak up to you because you're the founder and CEO. How do you get over that? What's the solution for that? Jason: [00:04:43] That's the question that I get asked a lot in my coaching with leaders. One of the things that people say is that, how do I get more self-awareness if nobody speaks up? Right? So the idea of speaking up is the idea of safety. It's actually boiling it down is it's really safety. When you get safety, you get transparency. You get, "Hey, Sean, that really sucked what you just did." You know, you get somebody who can actually say that to you because they know that tomorrow they won't get fired. So the idea of safety, and how do you create that safety is actually through the first conversation you had with that person, the very first conversation, and it builds on that. So for example, if you, if they ask a question. So, let's say they say, "Sean, I think you are a bit, you are reacting too fast," right? "You're a bit rational. That I think we should think about this," that first response that they have gives them the historical records of: What should I do in the future? And if you say something like "you don't know anything," oh, if you say something like "I'm the boss," then that is a historical record in his mind to say that, you know what, then that's true and I will behave differently after that. And slowly the voice gets quieter and quieter. So for a leader, one of the most important things is that - anyway, when I go through organizations, I know whether that organization has safety. They call it psychological safety. You can call it relational safety. But If people are asking questions and they're able to actually question you back, "why do you say that?" I know that the organization has safety. If nobody's speaking. Because all, when they think back or when they hear historical records or we can call it "gossip" or so, historical records of other people, "you know what you, you spoke to Sean, I'll tell you what, you know, James, you spoke to Sean two years ago. Yeah. Where's he now he's not here. Yeah, he's gone, I don't think so be careful." So any kind of data we want to build on it and every one of us. There's a ton of historical data. It's very ingrained and we call that culture. So what you want to do is that you want to start to be very careful at very small things, because you can change the thing about history is that you can start writing a new one. So the next time somebody asks you a question, Sean, in front of people, for example, use that as a way of demonstrating the, "Hey, you know what? That's a great question. There is no stupid question. That's a really great question. I appreciate you sharing with me that. Yes, I'm rash. A lot of times I'm rash about this and you know what I appreciate you, and I hope that you can carry on to share me these things. Because as a leader, I need information. The more information I have, the more data I have, the more I can make better decisions. If you say it that way, you will see a change in the historical records and you'll get more and more of these questions coming to you. And when you have that, you have more data points coming in. And when we have more data points you higher self-awareness. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/leadershipstack Join our community and ask questions here: from.sean.si/discord Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/leadershipstack

  Parker, from Adventures With Parker finds out if he is 'the map,' and former Walt Disney World cast member Jen Diaz tells us why she thinks Jungle Cruise is racist! - To support our work, and hear Patreon exclusive series like "The Doomscroll" and "Assemble: A Marvel Podcast" - click here. - AUTO TRANSCRIPTION (contains errors) Kory: [00:00:00] Four years ago on February 25th, 2017, my friends and I launched the no midnight podcast that would become no midnight media, a production company, producing theme park pulse, the game Adam's theme park time, machine unpacked, assemble the doom scroll and more over the last four years we've grown and you've grown with us. We owe our growth to you. Thank you very much for telling your friends how much you love the show and for your iTunes reviews and your emails and your tweets. Most importantly, just thanks for listening. I'm Christopher Biel. You might know me as Corey, the host and producer of theme park, post the game. And I just want to say thank you.  Kory: [00:00:52] We're presenting this week's Theme Park Pulse: The Game. Ad-free welcome to theme park pulse, the game, the game show for theme park fans. I'm your host Corey in San Francisco, and I'll introduce you to the rest of the panel and just a second. Theme park, post the game as a completely fan supported podcast. And if you would consider supporting our work for as little as a dollar a month, you'll get cool series like the doom scroll every Thursday morning. It's a Patrion exclusive more info at the link in the show notes. Thanks in advance this week. Parker from adventures by Parker on YouTube finds out if he is in fact, the map and former Walt Disney world cast member gin Diaz. Tells us why she thinks the jungle cruise is racist. That's all in the next half hour on theme park pulse, the game up first, it's the Park's pop culture pop quiz. If you'd like to play theme park, post the game, call (213) 935-0513 and leave a message. Let's welcome. Our first contestant on theme park, post the game this week from Orlando, Florida. It's Jen Diaz. Hey Corey. I'm so excited to be here. Thanks for joining us this week 10 in just a minute, I'm going to test your parks knowledge with the Park's pop culture pop quiz. But first I want to introduce you to are mentally and physically scattered. Panel. You'll see what I mean in a minute, first in Sacramento, California, he is the co-host of assemble a Marvel podcast on our Patrion. He is a one-time so far Mandalorian cast member, Tik TOK Liberty, and the person on this cast most victimized by Mercury's current road trip through retrograde. It's our scorekeeper Alby.  Sean: [00:02:48] Oh, I  Josh: [00:02:48] just can't  with her. Can I just pull a Mariah? I don't know  Josh: [00:02:51] her.  Kory: [00:02:51] Sure. Cool. Also in Sacramento, practically, within shouting distance of Alby. Which is in fact why we had to separate them in the first place. It's our pal, Adam.  Adam: [00:03:02] Come over and pick up that thing you left, or  Josh: [00:03:05] you can keep it. I don't want it. How  Adam: [00:03:08] come Alby gets all these accomplishments and I'm just the guy who lives close to Alby  Josh: [00:03:14] as I'm the  Kory: [00:03:15] famous one. Sorry. There's only room for Al B's eco on this show. Adam, fresh off of his family's fourth mandatory vacation this quarter so far. Somewhere in some place. Maybe it's Jack. Hey Jack. Hey, mom runs a  tight ship and just be happy. I'm here to mess everything up cause I don't have a segment. So that's what I'm here to do. Hello?  Kory: [00:03:37] How accurate that is on our flight East. Now we'll have an inexplicable three hour layover in Denver where we can visit the host of the modern mouse and assemble podcasts at some local coffee shop, giving the people in line at the Starbucks across the street. The stinkiest of looks it's Josh Taylor. I only  Josh: [00:03:55] give stanky, looks to hosts there on this podcast that refuse to give up their Starbucks. Even though they have horrible experiences at them on a consistent basis. When I've told them almost weekly, they should go somewhere else.  Adam: [00:04:13] But you're not going to name names or anything. I mean,  Josh: [00:04:16] No, I would never say Corey's name out  Kory: [00:04:18] loud. He hasn't had a conversation with anyone, but his wife off of zoom. And about two years, one was the pandemic. The rest is just a general dislike of the human race. Of course, via zoom in Greenville, South Carolina. It's Sean. Hey Sean.  Sean: [00:04:32] I feel like I legally have to point out that I am not just mentally scattered, but I'm scattered smothered covered and chunked. Yes. As is the waffle  Kory: [00:04:40] house way. Hungry now spoken  Adam: [00:04:42] like a true southerner.  Kory: [00:04:43] And finally she co-hosts mornings on WVA Q in Morgantown, West Virginia, which means that if you can't hear her, it's not the microphone. It's not your headphones. It's regional blackouts. It's Nicki Drake. Hi, Nikki. Hi, I'm  Jen: [00:04:57] here today. I'm glad to be here. Welcome  Kory: [00:04:59] Corey. I hope we get a poem out of you at some point during the show. No pressure. I  can, I can get some  Jen: [00:05:05] haiku's written while  Kory: [00:05:06] we sit here. Jack's family's yacht. It  Nikki: [00:05:10] can be  Jen: [00:05:11] about Jack. It can be about Al B's, ego it's whatever.  Kory: [00:05:15] Just let the muse. Speak, Jen. Thanks again for joining us on theme park, post the game. You're a former Walt Disney world cast member at what roles do  Jen: [00:05:22] I was attractions in the star Wars launch Bay and a character attendant or a blueberry. And that was at any park on any  Kory: [00:05:30] given day from Walt Disney world in 2020 during the pandemic. It's important to us at the Merkel's the game to talk to the actual cast members. What have these layoffs and losing your dream job, how has that affected your life in the time center? I  Jen: [00:05:44] think, at least for me, it was something that was on the horizon. It was something that you saw the boat getting bigger and bigger. So I'm glad that Disney kept us on for as long as they could and took care of us for as long as they could. Before these layoffs inevitably came, I survived most of 2020 with Disney helping me out. I've wanted to work at Disney world since I. Could remember, and I had two really great years with them and the story's not over yet. So I don't know if I could come back in some other role in some other capacity. It was just bittersweet, but I was glad that, like I had that chapter of my story. Do you  Kory: [00:06:22] have a favorite memory from your time as a cast member, Jesse?  Jen: [00:06:25] People's faces light up, seeing these characters in real life and holding a lightsaber and like using the forest, it was just like, I've seen people cry, any range of emotions. Like I've experienced them at  Nikki: [00:06:37] Disney world. I'm crying right now. Kory: [00:06:43] emails with you. You revealed to us a couple of hot takes that I wanted to go through one that the jungle cruise is racist and too. But the trace Caballeros ride is cringy. Yeah. Has that opinion changed now that it also has no animatronics?  Nikki: [00:07:03] It's just  Jen: [00:07:03] outdated. We feel your sister, like, you know, a theme park isn't supposed to be a, a time capsule. Walt really intended it to keep changing, to keep growing. First couple of times I wrote jungle cruise. I was just like, Oh, that, you know the jokes they're, they're cool. And. And everything and they're cheesy and like, yeah, I get it. But it just felt very like through the lens of like colonization and you know, it just, it just felt weird and icky to me, especially like, I dunno, the shrunken head jokes, the getting back to civilization jokes is like, Oh, well the natives ooga booga it just felt very like, Uh, like this, but I get it. People love the jingle cruise. So  Kory: [00:07:47] it's what happens when you wrap some tensile around right. Brian, Jen, we're going to play the parks, pop culture, pop quiz. I'm going to ask you three questions about some recent news and parks, pop culture. If you get too correct, you're going to win a glow in the dark theme park pulse wristband. Are you ready to play? Okay, I'm ready. You sound nervous. That's her secret? The orange County register reports that a new bill proposed by California state assembly members would speed the reopening of Disneyland and universal studios, Hollywood and override the governor's guidelines that have left the state's theme, parks and amusement parks closed for more than 10 months. Who is the governor of California?  Nikki: [00:08:29] She lives in Florida. What are you doing to  Jen: [00:08:32] her?  Kory: [00:08:35] Yeah, that's right. Depending on the day of the pandemic, you're in, he's either the next president. Or is going to be immediately recalled an exile to the fair lawns by raft. But these businesses that run the parks and the assembly members that represent them, say it's time for a framework for reopening safely reached for a comment. A Disney rep says, quote, M I C K E Y, where a freaking mess. He did not in fact say that they should have though. Question to Disney on ice is for many of us, a little glimpse of Disney. When you can't get to the parks, it rolls through town. And once you get over being the only inebriated solo adult in the arena, your blurred vision from the booze or your age makes it almost sort of feel like you're at Disney. You know, well, Disney on ice was in Kansas city. Recently when the health department shut down their production of dream, big due to repeated violations of what.  Nikki: [00:09:32] Not  Jen: [00:09:32] wearing their masks.  Kory: [00:09:35] We're going to take it. It's more severe though. It's repeated violations of COVID-19 restrictions, including. A COVID-19 outbreak among the staff that Disney on ice is parent company Feld entertainment failed to report. This is why we can't have semi nice, almost passable, magical wish thing. That's generous as a big, all right. Theme park fans across the internet are expressing disappointment that the new ride dedicated to Mario kart is not what.  Nikki: [00:10:10] Fast, Kory: [00:10:14] Mario kart. You would think it's a no brainer, but the attraction is actually a slow moving dark ride. Here we go with an AR headset that gives you all of, kind of like the magic, but the reality is Roger rabbit's cartoon. Spin is faster than this X Sox personally. I think it looks cooler without the glasses and banana peels myself. That's just just 50 CC. I'll be how to Jen do on the Park's top culture pop quiz. It's like she  Josh: [00:10:39] read our minds. She got them. All right. Kory: [00:10:46] You can catch Jen at Jen performs on Instagram. Wanted to make sure I plugged that. Jen, will you stick around and play some more games later in the show?  Nikki: [00:10:53] I sure will. Kory: [00:11:06] come back to theme park pulse, the game. Let's welcome. Our next contestant. He is the host of adventures with Parker on YouTube and Ontario, Canada. It's Parker, van Bellingham. Welcome to the show.  Josh: [00:11:16] Hello,  Parker: [00:11:16] or as we say in Canada,  Josh: [00:11:18] sometimes buzzword,  Kory: [00:11:21] well done. We're  Adam: [00:11:22] international  Kory: [00:11:23] now Parker, first question. What happens if we subscribe to adventures by Parker on YouTube? Well,  Parker: [00:11:29] um, a lot of good things. I do a lot of videos about theme parks, but also the outdoors travel local places around my city and just whatever other Synetic against, I happened to  Kory: [00:11:42] get up to. Well, and speaking of your city, you live in Ontario, Canada. How is the whole pandemic thing going there? Are you guys all still masked up and hiding there? Look, we are here. Oh yeah. Like  Parker: [00:11:51] I'm still in lockdown right now. I haven't been outside in a long time, but then again, even if it wasn't a pandemic, would I really go  Sean: [00:11:58] outside  Kory: [00:11:58] all that much? Is it cold  Parker: [00:12:01] right now? Yes. Oh my goodness. It is negative 13 today with Fahrenheit. I believe translates to around 10 it's in the five to 10 range. That  Kory: [00:12:12] is completely  Sean: [00:12:12] unpleasant. It just sounds like you could walk around with a test tube of the Pfizer vaccine. It'd be perfectly fine because it's just so far.  Kory: [00:12:20] Yeah. They probably don't have the problem of expiring vaccines in that climate. It just seems to leave them in the street. I'm on the doorstep. Find  Jen: [00:12:26] the same Bernard, throw them in a barrel around the neck and go door to door with the vaccine.  Kory: [00:12:31] You grew up going to a park called Canada's Wonderland. Can you describe that for the non Canadians and our audience? Because I am visualizing snow and mooses,  Parker: [00:12:41] I mean, it's not too far off. So the park, instead of a castle in its center has a giant mountain called wonder mountain. And it has a few different themed lands. One of which is of course, frontier Canada, which is all about like lumberjacks and Yukon and all that great Canadian stuff. But there's also a little area called medieval fair. There's an area called action zone. It's owned by the same company that owns Cedar point. So it's a, it's a pretty big park actually.  Sean: [00:13:11] I feel like my beard would make me a deity there  Josh: [00:13:17] kinda does that.  Parker: [00:13:18] Definitely the lumberjack  Sean: [00:13:19] aesthetic  Kory: [00:13:21] get a flannel shirt. In addition to your YouTube channel, you're a college student at Western university. What are you studying? I  Parker: [00:13:28] am studying integrated science with environmental  Kory: [00:13:31] science. And what drew  Parker: [00:13:32] you to that? I don't know. I mean, originally my plan was to go through, to be a doctor, but then about halfway through my degree, I decided I really liked the, um, environmental stuff and I liked. You know that whole end of biology, as well as the social sciences and my program kind of offers a bit of everything. So yeah, I decided to jump ships and I'm on a completely different career trajectory, but I'm loving it.  Kory: [00:13:56] Well, good luck with your studies and your YouTube channel. And thank you for joining us this week. We've invited you here to play a game that Adam invented a game in which you must tell truth from fiction. It's called. Show me the lot, Adam,  Adam: [00:14:10] the game where the cast always tells me what a good liar I am. And I don't know how to that's true. When a company is as successful as Disney, it's bound to have its fair share of imitators and knockoffs. Everything from Marty moose at Wally world and national Lampoon's vacation to Sherry bobbins on the Simpsons. Everyone wants to get a slice of Walt's product while staying just. It's different enough to ensure that uncle Bob doesn't take you to court. Sometimes though, these Disney knockoffs are just plain bad, so bad. In fact, they've spawned a whole new genre of movie, the mock Buster. I never even knew that term existed until this week. And I plan it to work it into regular conversation from here on, out for this game, I'm going to read off plot summaries for three movies. Two of them are real mock busters. One of them I completely made up. Listen to these three Synopsys. And tell me if you can show me the light you're ready.  Josh: [00:15:11] I guess I'm going to have to be,  Adam: [00:15:13] that's usually the reaction I get for this game  Kory: [00:15:15] that you are not running. All  Adam: [00:15:18] right. Moving number one, prepare to be transported to the dark bleak, depressing wasteland of new iron city. The city was deserted hundreds of years ago when a corporation run by a greedy evil robot led earth to the brink of annihilation. The world is hopeless, but all is not lost. Meet our cute scrappy robot hero tranq who has been working for generations to clean up the city. It's a boring monotonous life, but the only one he's ever known tranq is about to go on a voyage of discovery. And self-awareness, he is about to learn that he is a very special robot, possibly the only robot in the universe who's got what it takes to save civilization. Don't miss the feel-good smash, hit tiny robots. Kory: [00:16:09] I would see this.  You've already seen it. It's called. Wall-E  Josh: [00:16:15] talking about.  Adam: [00:16:17] I can neither confirm nor deny a moving number two, welcome come to a world where animals live in harmony and work together for a functioning society. For as long as she can remember. Trudy, the ferret has had only one dream to be a firefighter. She graduated from fire Academy with top ranks in her class, but because we all know ferrets can't do anything she's assigned to handicap. Fractions to kids who were playing with firecrackers. All that's about to change though, because Trudy has got the assignment of a lifetime with the help of a con artist Wiley coyote, whose name is definitely not wildly coyote because that's another legal, gray area she's out to prove that ferrets can change the world just as well as any bear bull or horse, you could hope to meet fun for the whole family and a great lesson to boot. Don't miss. Jungle Opolis  Nikki: [00:17:10] Oh my God. I want to be Trudy's best  friend.  Nikki: [00:17:13] She  Josh: [00:17:13] sounds fun.  Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh. Oh. Do some thing, right?  Nikki: [00:17:21] It was horrible.  Kory: [00:17:22] Settle down, Shakira. All right.  Adam: [00:17:24] Third. Final blockbuster. Join Dr. Crumb and Dr. Zoucks and that magical fantastical adventure across many worlds, urban and rural to AME and wild. The doctors have discovered a magical rock that can hypnotize humans. And installed thousands of balloons that will transport a house across land and seed doctors. Crummins Zoucks soon encounter an Intrepid French Explorer named John Pierre, who claims to have discovered a host of wild and exotic animals in the rainforest. So they get in the flying house. Set sail for the Amazon. Soon, it becomes clear that John Pierre doesn't have the best of intentions and the dastardly Frenchman lures the doctor into a cave in order to steal their magic rock in the struggle for the magic rock. The trio accidentally opens a portal into which three beasts escape and are transported to Paris. For some reason, for good measure, there are some kids thrown into the mix. So that the creators of this mock Buster can call it a children's movie with some justification. They don't seem to serve any purpose to the overall narrative, but regardless, anyone who hopes to join the adventures club absolutely must see what's up balloon to the rescue  Kory: [00:18:34] Parker. Two of those are real movies. One of those is a total fabrication made up by Adam. Can you show me the lie?  Josh: [00:18:43] Well, I mean,  Parker: [00:18:44] they all sound great. I'd love to see any of those movies, but I'm going to have to say that the light is the second one. Adam: [00:18:57] little too on the notes. I think, I  Josh: [00:19:00] think that was the one.  Parker: [00:19:01] I want it to be real the most. So,  Nikki: [00:19:04] so of course it has to be fake.  Kory: [00:19:05] Yeah. Maybe  Adam: [00:19:06] I'm losing my edge or maybe Parker's just good at spotting liars, quick note, Wally world and Marty news feature in the most recent episode of the part-time machine, which is in your feed right now. Nice plug Adam. I'm so  Kory: [00:19:19] proud of you. Very nice. Congratulations Parker. Will you hang out and play some more games later in the show? I would love to. back to theme park, post the game. If you'd like to be a contestant call (213) 935-0513 and leave a message. Let's welcome back to the show. Our contestants, Jen and Parker. Welcome back. Good to still be here. Well, we'll see how you feel at the end of the game, because you're here to play with Josh Taylor, Josh, what is it? Find out you are the worst, just  Adam: [00:20:00] like that.  Josh: [00:20:01] I am the worst. Uh, this game is called. I am the map. Typically you would walk into anything park, grab a paper map. And it would guide you to attractions, shops, restaurants, character locations, et cetera. However, a select few of us have all been on a trip with a passholder or a cast member of the Lake who refused to let us grab a map because in their mind, They are the map. So I'm going to give you an increasingly difficult task of deciphering my instructions. And you have to tell me the place in which you should hopefully end up since I have both of you, Jen and Parker, I'm going to give you each three different locations. The person that has the most guest is at the end wins. Hopefully you're both ready. Yeah, I am. The map will Parker. You are a first.  Nikki: [00:20:58] Oh, okay.  Jeez,  Josh: [00:21:01] I'm just  Kory: [00:21:01] scared. Now,  Josh: [00:21:03] Parker, if you're heading down main street USA, you'd take a right turn under the tomorrow land sign, follow the path all the way straight back. Don't take the walkway up to the people mover, but instead, slightly turned to your right and walk toward what round building. Carousel  Parker: [00:21:22] of  Josh: [00:21:22] progress. It is correct, Jen. Yes. John veer to your right. Take the walkway past Canada. Cross the bridge over the waterway and past France. It's actually the next country beyond France. Go in there. You should be able to meet characters from what nineties Disney movie  Nikki: [00:21:47] you said beyond  Josh: [00:21:47] France. Beyond  Kory: [00:21:49] France. Would you like a hint of the government of this country? No longer runs its pavilion Disney does. Is it Morocco?  Jen: [00:21:57] Uh, Jasmine,  Josh: [00:21:59] you can meet Jasmine or Aladdin or genie in Morocco. That is correct Parker. Once you've gone to discovery Island, you'll make a left turn, take the first left pass that travel that path into the land. You'll see some amazing rock formations turn right and walk to the open air building that looks like an old hangar with that roofing, then grab a seat and enjoy what restaurant Tooley canteen correct Nikki: [00:22:36] is the map. Wow. It's the  Parker: [00:22:41] Canadian superpowers,  Josh: [00:22:43] Jen. Once you've gotten to discovery Island veer, right? Take that path to its very end. You'll cross a bridge over the river from there. You'll have to choose to go right or left turn. Right. And then head into the back of the land. That's immediately there on your left. There will be a ride, but don't get on it. Just keep walking straight back. That's where your journey will begin for. What.  Nikki: [00:23:13] Expedition  Josh: [00:23:13] Everest. You, you would be incorrect.  Nikki: [00:23:16] Yeah, I figured close  Josh: [00:23:18] though. It is the Maharajah jungle Trek Parker headed down Hollywood Boulevard. Do not turn onto sunset. Keep going before you get to the Chinese theater. It's on your right-hand side, just behind a little guard. It's a nice little pricey restaurant called what?  Nikki: [00:23:37] This is so unfair.  Parker: [00:23:39] Hollywood and vine.  Josh: [00:23:42] It is not. Oh, it is the Brown Derby. Jen's looking for revenge.  Nikki: [00:23:54] Dare Josh. Give me Adam.  Josh: [00:23:58] Sorry, Jen. I know it's weird, but you cannot actually walk through the castle. But if you veer into Liberty square, there's a little path on your right-hand side. That'll take you back behind the castle when you're on that path. It's the first shop immediately on your right. What shop is that?  Nikki: [00:24:20] Is it the Phil horror  Josh: [00:24:23] magic shop? It is not Kory: [00:24:32] who won this version of IMT. Apparently  Josh: [00:24:36] Parker  Sean: [00:24:36] is the map  Josh: [00:24:38] he got to.  Kory: [00:24:41] Thank you. Yeah, it's okay, Jen, you're going to have a chance to get you revenge. We're playing the eighth dwarf next on theme park pulse, the game. wrap up the show this week, we're going to play another round of the eighth dwarf, which you can play on social media. Using the hashtag eighth dwarf. The whole panel is going to play. Gin is here. Parker is here and Sean who is wearing his, I am the eighth dwarf. T-shirt take it away.  Sean: [00:25:15] All right. Today, I'd like to turn our attention to the online. Disney  Josh: [00:25:20] fandom. No,  Kory: [00:25:23] same, same.  Sean: [00:25:24] Now, as we all know, the seven dwarfs they're designed to represent specific behaviors or personality traits. And at some point, any of us are likely to read or write tweets that are happy dopey, or maybe even a little grumpy, but every now and then there are those people that we just can't categorize as one of the seven doors in their behavior, or in this case, tweets are so outrageous that we fit them into their own category. Called the eighth dwarf. Now I want to begin with a disclaimer. Twitter is awful. And if Twitter is hell, then fittingly does Twitter is the eighth layer of hell. Look it up. I'm not wrong. The dwarves, there are just the worst note that I have changed. The Twitter handles to protect all of you from doom scrolling. These twits. You're welcome. Going in order of amusing to atrocious, let's start with does glow up 2010. This account was so bizarre. I honestly wasn't sure whether they were legit or satire and mixed in with selfies of herself and her girls spelled G U R L Z, because I don't know why. These are kind of cuckoo posts. For example, I have a cousin who works for the government and they told me that Disneyland is opening on February 30th. Hashtag can't wait. I don't think that they have a calendar and then there's this one. I talked to a cast member who told me that Disney is working on rolling tube tunnels for all future parades to enforce appropriate social distancing, hashtag fat. Like I said, I honestly can't tell if what I'm reading is serious parody or just a bot run a muck. Corey, what is your name for does glow up  Kory: [00:27:17] 2010  Adam: [00:27:20] Georgia representative Marjorie Taylor green. Nikki: [00:27:26] perfect. I don't mean  to reduce it. We're using recycled, but I feel like this is definitely Tom coreless his Twitter. I was going to say  Nikki: [00:27:33] thirsty for some  Josh: [00:27:35] attention. Q1 on E. Oh, that's a good one. Horn to Viking. Insurrectionist Jacob chancellor needs  Nikki: [00:27:51] to  Parker: [00:27:52] check their sources, ear. Kory: [00:27:57] I  Adam: [00:27:57] E the entire internet. Yeah.  Jen: [00:28:01] Q  Nikki: [00:28:01] conspiracy Z.  Sean: [00:28:05] It's got good ring to it. Yeah, it does. It does. I think for that one, we're going to go with Jed with cute.  Josh: [00:28:12] All  Sean: [00:28:12] right. So if you haven't looked yet, the eighth layer of hell is actually known to be the home of liars flatterers and false prophets. It is fan went 80, seems to have read that description from Dante and just replied with, hold my beer to wit. In 2019, the country bear Jabber Rebo would be replaced with Bob Hagar's children doing an eight hour remixed version of Oklahoma called OCA hump guns. I'll eat my shoe if I'm wrong in case you're curious. Cut. Your bears is still there. The show hasn't been changed, although I could probably use a touch up here and there. When asked about this fact, his fan went 80 quickly. Yelled squirrel attempted to distract from their myriad mistakes. See the trick with does Twitter. You're never wrong. If you only count the hits and ignore all the misses. But as we say down here in the South, even a stop clock is right. Twice a day is fan one 80. How would you like your shoe cooked also? Do you prefer ketchup or mayonnaise? Corey, what do we call it? Does fan  Kory: [00:29:20] one 80. Rongey right.  Adam: [00:29:25] Deflecting.  Josh: [00:29:26] Ooh.  I like the idea of him just being squirrel. Like he just said his name when he was trying to distract  Josh: [00:29:34] people. So  Nikki: [00:29:35] scrolling,  Jen: [00:29:36] no friends and very bored. He.  Josh: [00:29:39] Oh, must run out of a lot of shoes. He, uh, this is clearly a Texas Senator, Ted Cruz.  Parker: [00:29:50] Gosh. Kids don't do drugs. Nikki: [00:29:57] Good old boy. Sean: [00:30:02] Oh, I think we have to stick with the advice. Kids don't do drugs. They can partner. That's our winner. Thank you, bud.  Kory: [00:30:09] Parker. And Jen, thank you so much for joining us something park. Thanks for having us post the game created, written and produced by me and the panelists you heard on the show today. I'm talking about Shawn Reed, Adam bargain, Jack Milliken, Nicki Drake, Alby magical. And Josh Taylor. I'd like to thank again, our amazing contestants, Jen and Parker. If you'd like to be a guest on the show yourself, call (213) 935-0513 and leave a message or email Nikki. And I K K i@nomidnightmedia.com an all new episode of the doom. Scroll drops tomorrow on our Patrion. That show is weekly and it all tiers check out the link in the description and support our work for as little as a dollar or a month. And you'll get that in other cool bonuses. There is a link in the show notes. You enjoyed this episode of theme park, post the game, the best way to help us. Share it with a friend. All right. Panel. If you're in a relationship, you might have like a celebrity hall pass. Let's get weird for a second because your Disney feature animation call Pat. Sean.  Sean: [00:31:12] Wait, does that count Pixar? Because it would definitely be missing credible.  Nikki: [00:31:15] Oh,  Adam: [00:31:17] Sean, 100% stole mine. You bastard Josh: [00:31:24] Jack.  Well, I think my 12 year old self needs to go with Roxanne from a  Josh: [00:31:29] goofy movie,  Kory: [00:31:30] Nicki  Jen: [00:31:31] personally, I was going to say Aladdin, but then I started thinking about it and Jeannie can turn into whoever you want.  Nikki: [00:31:38] Right.  Kory: [00:31:40] Spicy Alby. Oh Jesus.  Josh: [00:31:44] Um,  Sean: [00:31:45] he wasn't in a Disney movie,  Josh: [00:31:48] the Eldorado buddy, uh, Flynn. Oh, Lynn Reiner. It's a smolder. Josh Taylor. You could really go with Baymax and he would take care of you after  Kory: [00:32:05] great cuddler.  Josh: [00:32:07] Good hugs. That's gross.  Kory: [00:32:09] No one that knows me is going to be surprised by my answer. I'm going with a Latin, but like vest already half undressed, a Latin from our family to yours. Please be safe. Wear a mask, get a vaccine if you're eligible and join us next time for another all new theme park.  Josh: [00:32:27] Sure. It was Nikki: [00:32:32] a good one too.  Kory: [00:32:34] Oh yeah, that would have been great.

"If I only knew then what I know now..." We've all wondered how we would do things differently if given the chance for a do-over. Here's how Rand Fishkin applied the lessons learned from the past to the launch of his new startup, SparkToro. This week on The Inbound Success Podcast, SparkToro Founder Rand Fishkin talks about starting over. Rand rose to marketing stardom as the Founder and CEO of Moz, where he became known as one of the foremost experts on SEO in the world.  When he exited the company a few years ago and founded SparkToro, he reflected on the lessons learned from his experience at Moz to develop a fresh new approach to everything from raising investment funding, to speaking out about issues some might consider controversial and the development of a marketing strategy for his startup. Check out the full episode, or read the transcript below, for details. Resources from this episode: Visit the SparkToro website Get Rand's book Lost and Founder Follow Rand on Twitter Email Rand at rand@sparktoro.com Transcript Kathleen (00:00): Welcome back to the inbound success podcast. I am your host Kathleen Booth. And this week I am incredibly excited to tell you that my guest is none other than Rand Fishkin. Welcome Rand. Rand (00:26): Thanks for having me, Kathleen. Great to be here Kathleen (00:28): To say that I'm excited is an understatement. I, this is, I'm just going to throw it out there and this is embarrassing, but I have had a marketing crush on you for a long time. Rand (00:39): Marketing crush. One of the most unusual types of crushing. Kathleen (00:42): I mean, you have to really be a marketing nerd to develop like marketing crushes and I truly have one. So I will just tell a brief story about how and why I developed this crush. And then I'm going to ask you to tell a little bit about yourself. So I, I started reading your content when you were at Moz and I always just loved, loved it for two reasons. One is, it was incredibly substantive. There's a lot of crappy content out there and I've been a marketer for a long time. And I don't like to waste my time with stuff that isn't going to teach me something new. Kathleen (01:17): And I just always felt like I learned something when I read your content, but I loved also your delivery and the fact that you let your personality shine through and you, weren't afraid to be kind of fun about it. And that's what first you know, turned me on to the content you were creating. But then I think what really cemented it was actually when you left Moz and you wrote your book Lost and Founder, I was a business owner for 11 years. I owned a digital marketing agency and I had what I would call a less than glorious exit. You know, there were a lot of failures along the way. I even actually toyed with writing a book. It's the first time I've ever said this to my podcast listeners. I toyed with writing a book called full frontal failure about like how important it is to just own it and put yourself out there and how, like being an entrepreneur is so lonely and nobody talks about the bruises and the, you know, the bad parts and I saw your book and I read it and I was like, Oh my God, this is what I'm talking about. Kathleen (02:18): So it really spoke to me and then you started SparkToro and I was so fascinated and impressed by how you built the audience first. And really again, what putting out incredibly substantive content, I loved everything you did with Jumpshot while it was still available. Anyway, so I mean, I could go on and on and on, but that was kind of my journey following you. And I've always just loved how unflinchingly, honest you are. And the most recent example of that is the amazing blog you put out about why you left Moz's board of directors and, and you've always been a champion of diversity, and I love that it made room for two women of to join the board. So I'm going to stop now, cause this is getting a little awkward. Rand (03:04): No, no. I mean I think what's, you know, what's wonderful, Kathleen is I always felt like the the contributions that I, that I wish, you know, resonated more in the world are exactly the ones you're talking about, right. Transparency around entrepreneurship and around the hard parts of broken relationships and broken systems and you know, work around diversity and equity and inclusion and those kinds of things. And yet, you know, mostly for better or worse, right? Mostly what I'm known for is like, Oh, you really helped me learn keyword research. Kathleen (03:45): Whiteboard Fridays. Rand (03:49): I'm, I'm very grateful and honored to have helped people with those things as well, of course, right. That, that built my career and, and helped build Moz. But I think there are, there are lots of places to get that information and to your point, it, it can be pretty lonely and challenging to find real people telling real stories about the painful and hard parts of work and life and and recognizing what opportunities they've had and which ones maybe they didn't earn. Which, which has certainly been the case with me too. So, Kathleen (04:29): Yeah. And I would add to that and helping other people perhaps avoid some of the pitfalls you did. I love that you shared your term sheet and lost and founder. You know, I, I actually sent that to a friend of mine right after I wrote it. He said he was starting to look at maybe taking on investment. He had a completely bootstrapped, very, very successful software company, but he didn't have a succession plan. He didn't have children who wanted to take over and he wanted to retire. And I said, I have a book, you have to read, read it before you take any investment. And I just think that's, so what a gift to be able to like, pass that on and allow people to, to avoid some of the things that you've had to encounter in your journey. So thank you for that. Rand (05:09): Oh my gosh. I'm honored. Thanks. Kathleen (05:11): Yeah. Well, the big reason other than the adulation I'm pouring on you, that I wanted to have you here was that I, the thing I think is so interesting and what makes me want to ask you like a thousand different questions is that you are somebody who has started and grown a very successful business in Moz and learned a lot along the way and SparkToro's a more recent journey. And you know, we always say like, Oh, if I had only known that, then what I know now, and you kind of had that opportunity a little bit with SparkToro. So that's really what I want to dig into as someone who has been there, done that and seen both the good and the bad of growth and what works with marketing and what doesn't when you decided to start SparkToro, can you, can we, maybe we could start by having you walk me through, what were the lessons you pulled from your earlier experiences to put together? What, in your mind was the plan that would work for a brand new company from a marketing standpoint? Because of course we talk about inbound marketing on this podcast. Rand (06:16): Yeah. let's see. I had a bunch of things that I really wanted to do very differently. And some of those, some of those, I kind of outlined at the end of Lost and Founder, but you know, I wanted to fund SparkToro differently. I knew that I wanted to raise investment because I didn't, you know, to your point around leaving a company and not having a financial exit, right. I didn't have a financial exit from Moz. And so, you know, I needed to I had a nice severance agreement, but otherwise right. Had to start getting income pretty darn fast. And I knew that I wanted to build a company that could be successful, successful, meaning for its employees and its customers and its shareholders be successful for all three of those groups without having to be hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue. Rand (07:16): And so the VC model just does not really allow for that, right. It is you know, Moz is a company that got to $50 million in recurring revenue and is considered kind of a, like frustrating mediocre plateau, you know, of a, of a company, because it just won't, it won't go away and die, which would be fine, right. In venture capital world. It's fine. If 98 out of a hundred companies that they invest in die or right. Or could it get to a fast growth rate and North of a hundred million dollars in revenue? That's fine, too. Everything in between is no good. Right. Kathleen (07:56): That's so funny because I feel like if you talk to any startup founder, well, I don't know any, but most 99% of startup founders would say $50 million company. Yeah. Sign me up. Like that sounds great. It's weird. Rand (08:09): And I think almost all of us, in fact, all of us should feel that way, but the venture capital asset class has biased a lot of people to think like, Oh yeah, that's, that's not good enough. And that's pretty, that's pretty dumb, right? Because what we want, what we want as a society and as people, and as human beings who are familiar with how capitalism and economics interact and politics, we should want lots of little companies, right? What makes a sector robust? What makes an economy vibrant is competition and lots of diversity of, of, you know, different companies owning parts of the market and innovating as a result of that. What you absolutely don't want. The last thing you want, if you want a healthy economy and a healthy politic and a healthy sort of income equality you want, you do not want Facebook owning 90% of social media, Google owning 95% of search Amazon owning, you know, whatever it is. Rand (09:16): Percent of e-commerce 50% of e-commerce, right? Those are negative externalities and the results of you know, a sort of system that gravitates toward the most powerful. And that is bad for everybody, right? Bad for entrepreneurs, bad for employees, bad for consumers, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Right. So I knew that I wanted to build a company that could be successful without the forced venture type of outcome. I knew that I wanted to keep the team really small. I don't like building big teams. Casey doesn't either, both of us have worked at, you know, companies that are like at Moz when it was like 20 people and 25 people. That was great. 50 people. Okay. Still, all right. 75, Ooh. I'm not feeling as great about this hundred, 200 plus really I'm not a match for what the kind of working environment that I like. And so, yeah, that was another intentional decision to, to longterm. Keep the team small. We knew we wanted to build an audience before we launched a product. We knew we did not want to launch an MVP. We wanted to launch a very robust sort of impressive product. That would be remarkable to a lot of people. The first time they tried it. So all those things are very different. Kathleen (10:40): Yeah. Let's talk for a minute about building an audience before you build a product. That's something that I'm personally passionate about. I, I spent two years as head of marketing at IMPACT. And I, after I exited my agency, I always said I would never be in an agency again. But I stayed in IMPACT because that was Bob Ruffolo, the CEO, his vision was to build a media company around the agency. And I was like, that is interesting to me and that model was build the audience and then, and then we'll have products we can roll out to them. So it's not exactly what you're talking about, but it's that same mindset of, if you have a really passionate audience, it unlocks so much opportunity. I'm interested in knowing like, how did you go about that with SparkToro? I kind of saw it from a reader standpoint. Cause I think I've read every one of your blogs since the beginning, but maybe explain to my listeners a little bit about why you chose that approach and then how, how you approached it. Because I think a lot of people have a hard time understanding how exactly you would go about doing that. Rand (11:38): Yeah. Yeah. And I did it quite differently than with Moz, right? So Moz was like blog five nights a week you know, try and get traffic to all those posts, try and get good at SEO earn, you know, links to those posts. And then, you know, slowly build up this sort of content and SEO, flywheel and SparkToro was essentially built on the back of what I call social media marketing and digital PR. Right. So I did lots and lots of and continue to do lots and lots of podcasts and webinars and conferences and events and guest contributions and you know, get interviewed for other publications platforms, blogs, media channels, research reports get quoted in news, like all, all that kind of stuff. Right. Essentially leverage the power of other people's platforms because SparkToro, when it launched had none of its own and also leverage the social media platforms that I carried over from us. Rand (12:40): Right. So I didn't, I didn't get to carry it over, like my, you know, my content library and all the search traffic, but I got to bring with me, you know, some of that social media presence and, and that following on like Twitter, LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram that essentially kickstarted the SparkToro audience and the sort of what, what started as our beta invite list and then became our early access customer list. I think for any startup, for any business that's trying to build its audience and email addresses the most important thing to capture, you know, getting website visits, getting social followers yeah, those are okay. Not, not like a problem or anything, but an email address is so incredibly valuable. You can do so much with those direct communication, you know, broadcast communication. And of course all sorts of, you know, stuff on the ad platforms too. Rand (13:43): So we, over the course of about 18 months, which was essentially the development time, the R and D and testing and beta process for SparkToro we had about 15, 16,000 email subscribers who said like, I want to get notified at launch or like I'm interested in being a beta tester if you'll have us. And that helped us. And even though we launched in April of 2020, like the worst possible time in the last hundred years to launch a company we did manage to get our first, I think almost 150 ish customers via that, that list of folks. Right. Who said, like, I'm interested in what you're doing. And so that platform has done through, you know, social broadcasting. I published probably, I mean, you, you, you read them all. So I think over the course of 18 months, I don't think I published 30 blog posts even right. Fairly small limited number, but I probably did a hundred. Yeah. You know, interviews and conversations on other people's this sort of digital PR approach to things. And I would do that again. I think that's a, that's a great way to play it. I mean, you know, obviously we're having a podcast conversation. Kathleen (15:01): That's very meta. Rand (15:05): Yeah. Which is a little bit of the reason that's so valuable is because when you don't have an audience of your own finding the audiences that are, that potentially will resonate with you and leveraging them from other folks, platforms is a super valuable way to go. It also worked really well because we had that sort of free signup funnel, you know, before launch, it was give us your email address to get notified at launch. And after launch, it was tries searching SparkToro for free, and then, you know, register to create a forever free account. And that that funnel has also been very successful for us. So, you know, I'll be on a webinar, I'll be on a podcast. I'll, I'll do a video live stream or something I did when a couple of days ago. And you could see like the spike in Google analytics, right. Cause lots of people are paying attention to podcasts. We're having a conversation and they're like, Oh, let me go try this SparkToro thing. Right. So it works really well. As long as you've got your funnel optimized for that type of acquisition. Kathleen (16:05): It's interesting that you say, you know, you, you were successful because you essentially identified other people who had audiences and you were able to draft off of that a little bit. I'm going to put a pin in that. Cause then we're going to come back to what SparkToro does. Cause I feel like that's the perfect segue before we get there though. So I want to make sure I understand correctly. You had about an 18 month development period during which the product was not publicly launched. You mentioned you wrote 30, let's call it 30 blogs. In addition to doing your digital PR, I do want to add as the reader, that, that sounds simple, but it wasn't because these were not just opinion pieces or, you know, 10 ways you can write a great subject line. These were blogs that included a lot of original research that you did in conjunction with the Jumpshot data, as well as some real thought leadership around what was happening with Google and, and being able to get clicks in search results. Maybe you could talk a little bit more about that because I do feel like that was one of the reasons that I avidly followed you, was the quality of the information in those blogs was not to be found anywhere else. I couldn't find that information elsewhere. Rand (17:17): No I didn't. Yeah. I think that's absolutely right. So, you know, part of my thesis around building a successful whole marketing flywheel is going and finding a way that you can contribute unique value that your audience cannot get elsewhere. Right. And you know, I've written about this and I talk about it all the time and when you know, startup founders and marketers ask me like, Oh, well, where should, where do you recommend that someone new to marketing start building their their funnel, their channels, their, their, their flywheel. My recommendation is always something you're passionate and interested about somewhere where your customers actually pay attention and somewhere where you can add unique value that no one else is providing. And so this was, you know, this was sort of my stab at what, what can I do uniquely? I had this relationship with Jumpshot. Rand (18:07): I had been using their their data at Moz. I've been really impressed by their click stream data quality. And so I continued that relationship sort of helping them by being a vocal supporter and proponent of their day of using their data. And in exchange, they gave me a bunch of, you know, research time. So they, you know, they had someone super friendly guy named Sean who worked with me on their, on the R and D side of Jumpshot. And I'd be like, Hey Sean, can you pull this data for me? And he'd pull it, send it over, I'd put it into Excel and play around with it and produce some nice looking charts and graphs and publish that and try and try and tease out the interesting bits of like, Oh, here's the distribution of where web traffic is coming from? Like, you know, more than two thirds of all web traffic is controlled by the alphabet corporation, right. Rand (19:00): Between Google and YouTube and Gmail and Google maps and yada yada, yada, that entity was referring more than two thirds of all web traffic to sort of the top. I think we pulled the top 20,000 or so websites. Right. so that feels a little monopoly. Yes. Great. It's sort of, yeah. Sorta dangerous. And then you look at, you know, web search as a whole, and of course, Google at the same time was trying to claim to who was at the attorneys general of the United States who were looking into it from, I think like 40 some odd States, quote your research as part of that. Right. So, you know Congress through what's his name? Congressman David Cellini I think is the, the representative who's looking into an a, on the house subcommittee for antitrust and, you know, they're, they're asking Google, all these questions and Google is giving them these clearly obviously BS lie responses. Rand (19:59): And so I'm able to call that out, right. I'm able to look at the data and be like, Nope, you're lying to Congress. I don't know if there's consequences for that. Apparently there's not, but yeah. Let's not go down that road right now. Cause I'm yeah. If you would like to take away women's rights, apparently it is totally cool to lie to Congress, but, you know but yeah, so being able to call out, you know, Sundar, Pichai, Google CEO, and say like, look, the thing, the thing that you told Congress under oath is provably false. Maybe, maybe Congress wants to do something about that. Right. You know, maybe that's going to come back to bite you in the butt. I hope it does. Cause I, you know, I don't think that's acceptable behavior. And I don't think any of us should, should, should accept that, but, but these are kinds of things, right. Rand (20:47): That it did, it did two things, right? One, it brought a lot of folks like yourself to SparkToro subscribing to the, the blog, paying attention to the publications. And it also helped create in my opinion, a very accurate narrative around how do we, as marketers break free from the duopoly of Facebook and Google, like, can we do other things, other marketing things, can we pay attention to other channels? Can we spend our dollars and time to go find other publications in people and sources of influence that reach our audiences and not exclusively rely on these untrustworthy and potentially risky partners. And that obviously serve SparkToro's interest as well, because fundamentally at the core of SparkToro is I'm trying to solve this problem. Right? The, the reason I created the company is because I'm frustrated with the Google Facebook duopoly. Over-Marketing Kathleen (21:51): Well, let's take a minute and actually have you explain what SparkToro does cause we kind of skip that part in the beginning and I'm gonna make sure we don't completely miss it. Rand (22:01): Yeah. Fair enough. I, I don't love to be self promotional, which is a little, Kathleen (22:06): But I mean it's germane given what we're talking about. I'm the same way, but yeah, Rand (22:09): Yeah. Right. Is that weird? You, you like, you should, that, that's the goal of marketing and you know, Kathleen (22:16): I always say marketers are terrible at marketing themselves. I'm I'm, I've been trying to get a personal website launched for the last two years. And I don't know if it'll ever go live because having to write my own website copy is like the most insane form of torture about myself. Rand (22:33): Open offer. I have been working with a wonderful technical writer. I'm a woman out of the UK on some of our case studies for SparkToro. And she is amazing. If you want someone to interview you and then turn that into your copy, Kathleen (22:47): I will get her name from you because I can't, I cannot write about myself. Rand (22:51): I love working with consultants and agencies. I know that's weird. Like startup founders is supposed to want to build that strength internally. I don't, that's one of the things I did at Moz that like, we always tried to hire instead of work with consultants and agencies. I think that was a really dumb move. At SparkToro I'm using tons of agencies anyway. You would ask, what does the company do? This is very fair. Right? So trying to solve this problem around Facebook and Google's do opoly over online marketing and advertising. And if you're in e-commerce Amazon sort of makes how to try opoly. Essentially what we realized is that the, the challenge comes in when folks are asked to understand where they can reach their audiences outside, they're outside those platforms. So like, Kathleen, if you and I start a new company to sell, I don't know bone broth, we're like, Oh yeah, let's, let's do the, the, the bone broth thing. Rand (23:53): And like, w we'll we'll we'll make lovely stuff and then we'll sell it online. And where do we reach people who are interested in things like, you know, paleo and keto diets, right? Cause that has a big overlap with it. And people who are big into like college enrich foods and people who are big into cooking. I don't know the result though. And where do we, where do we find those communities? Like, okay, I, I know a few recipe websites, but are those the right places or not? And so what you want to be able to do ideally is go find all the people online who are talking about whatever bone broth or collagen or keto diets, or I don't know, maybe you have a big affinity overlap with yoga instructors or something, right? You want to go to those communities, go find those people and then figure out, probably figure out like their home address so that you can break into their house and steal their phone and log into it, right. Rand (24:55): Get their unlock code, log in and then see all the things they were browsing and reading and watching and listening to and following. But of course that's illegal and super unethical. And so the next best thing to do, because surveys and interviews don't work for this. Like that's the way most marketers get this data. That's how I got it before. And it does not work because people just can't. It's not that they don't answer, honestly. It's just, they can't remember. You know, if you ask someone like, Hey, tell me a hundred people you follow on Twitter. What? No, I can't. How am I supposed to remember that? I can tell you maybe like five, Kathleen (25:34): Right? The classic story. When I used to own my agency, I had a client I worked with who said, Oh, we, we train all of our sales people to say, how did you hear about us? And one of the most common answers we get is, Oh, I saw your ad in the Washington post. And my client was like, I have literally never advertised in the Washington post. You know? Rand (25:51): And this, this speaks to another fundamental problem, which we found with a ton of you know, agencies and consultants who would work with businesses. And you, you go talk to the executive team and they'd be like, all right, I want you to get us placed in the wall street journal. Why the wall street journal, like we're selling bone broth here. I golf with our customers every weekend. They read the wall street journal. You get us covered in the wall street journal. Like, no, my friend, I look, you you're getting super biased responses. And like you and your golf buddies, I'm sure do read the wall street journal, but that is not sample size of three. Yeah. Right. And so apart from breaking into people's houses, what the other way to do that? We saw a few really, really smart businesses marketing teams and customer research teams who had their engineers basically take a list of their customer's email addresses, send them through a service like full contact or Clearbit and get all of their social accounts. Rand (26:54): So like, you know, here's Kathleen and here's Rand and here's, Rand's LinkedIn account. And here's his Facebook page of it's public. And here's his Instagram, if that's public and here's his Twitter and here's, Kathleen's, you know, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn, Twitter, Reddit, Quora, Medium, blah, blah, blah. And then they would crawl those social URLs. If they're public and extract all the data, they could like everything that's publicly shared by that person online just like Google. And then they would aggregate it together and be like, okay, our customers follow these social sources. They listen to these podcasts, they're sharing these YouTube channels. They're sharing these articles and websites. Now we can put our data together and go advertise and market in smart ways in smart places. And Casey and I were like, Oh, that's genius. Kathleen (27:44): Amazing. What is incredible? And also, are you kidding? Rand (27:48): You custom built with like three engineers on your team over nine months, this process, just to get that one piece of data. No, that's unfair. We should build that for the whole internet. Right. Let's just build that for everybody. So now you can go to SparkToro and sort of instantly, you know, search for any audience and discover what they read, watch, listen to and follow Kathleen (28:11): It's awesome. And, and I can, I will add, as we go through this conversation, I am a customer currently. I was actually one of your beta users at a different company. So your funnel works because I am the living breathing example of it. But now going back to, so you had 18 months, you created this awesome content. One of the things that really struck me that you said was you partnered with Jumpshot and, you know, they have this data and they assigned a researcher to you. And, and the reason that struck me is that I imagine there are probably a lot of people listening, especially if there are people who are engaging in, in creating a startup who are saying, that's great, Rand Fishkin could do that because he's around Fishkin. And he worked at Moz and people are going to give him anything. Kathleen (28:57): But I think the truth is though that the, at least the, the lesson I extracted from what you said is about partnership. Like if you are somebody who doesn't have a huge following, if you are somebody who doesn't have access to a ton of proprietary data, who out there is in an adjacent space to you, is complimentary, who does. And I mean, I did this in my last job because I worked for a small cybersecurity startup that had like no web traffic. And we put on a, a four day virtual summit on IOT security and the partners we had were unbelievable. Nobody had heard of us, but they had all heard of our partners. And my whole deal was, I'm not going to charge you to be a sponsor. You're going to get a speaking slot. All I ask is that you promote this and am going to put in all the elbow grease, right? Kathleen (29:43): Like I'm going to do the marketing. I'm going to get like 500 people to come to this thing or whatever it was. And I think to me, like, I love that example of Jumpshot because you don't have to be a Rand Fishkin. I think you just have to understand what's in it for the other partner and the fact that you were able to shine a spotlight on their data and give them visibility. You know, there's, there's something for everyone out there in terms of figuring out the right partnerships. So I feel like that's a really valuable lesson. Rand (30:10): Yeah. I was going to say a lot of, a lot of amazing data is public or publicly available. I a guy just emailed me in the, in the SEO space. Jeff, what's his last name? Jeff Baker, I think. And he had put together this study where he analyzed a bunch of SEO tools. It just use their public, like, you know, he subscribed to the free trials or paid for a month of access or whatever. And then like did a big comparison and published it on. He pitched it to search engine land, which is a big publication in the, you know, search marketing world. They accepted it, you know, despite that he didn't, it's not like he had a big history with them. He didn't have a big following previously. He pitched it to them. They published it. He emailed me and was like, Hey, I think you'd be interested in this. Rand (30:51): Would you share it? I was like, yeah, this looks great. And did really nice work here. Right? It's small sample size, but excellent methodology. Sure. I'll share it with my audience. Right. I posted it to Twitter and LinkedIn, it got picked up by a bunch of more people like great, you know, he had no special, you know, relationship previously. I think there's opportunities like that to find unanswered or unasked questions in virtually any topic and field, and then expound on that take advantage of that, that opportunity in the market, underserved opportunity in the market to create unique value that your audience can't find elsewhere. And if you do that even just a few times, you know, I am not talking about publishing every night or every week, you can publish, you know, five times the year and be very successful with this kind of thing. If you become known for providing that source of information, data opinion you know, analysis that is unavailable elsewhere. Kathleen (32:00): Well, and I would also say having a point of view, which is something that you've done consistently on everything. Yep. And this is a, this is something I want to explore just for a minute, because you know, having, having owned an agency, I've talked to so many business owners and, and, you know, heads of marketing having worked at other agencies like hundreds, hundreds over the year, the years. And there's a lot of, I feel like this is the third rail for so many of them. Like there are a lot of people who just firmly believe you don't take a position on anything period. End of story. I am not one of them, I believe in taking positions. But then there's this whole other gray space in between of like how, how firmly can you plant your flag in one direction or the other? Kathleen (32:45): And a lot of business owners get very afraid of offending anyone and then kind of shying away from that. They become, I always refer to it as like the milk toast of marketing. You don't offend anybody, but nobody really likes you that much either. So I would love to hear your thoughts on, because I think I do think it takes guts. You know, and what you take a stand on has to match your personal passions and what you truly believe in because you are putting yourself out and taking risks. So maybe talk through a little bit as the owner of the business, how you thought about this and, and how in your head, you reconcile the risks of taking controversial positions with what you see as the, the kind of things you could gain out of it. Rand (33:27): Yeah. So let's see, I think about this in sort of three ways. I think about it from a an ethics and philosophy sort of perspective. Like, am I a good person? Am I doing good things for the world? Am I prioritizing the goodness that I do for the world over a personal greed, right. Making more money? And if the answer to that becomes no, then I am obviously the definition of evil, right? Evil is not like I'm going to go murder people. You know, like that that's almost never happens almost all evil, at least in our society exists because people trade the courage of doing what they know to be the right thing for money or power or influence. Right. And that there's, that's evil. So I think about it from that perspective and on that vector, this is just an incredibly easy answer, right? Rand (34:28): Like you, you should obviously do it the second way. I think about it is from a marketing and branding perspective, which is essentially what kind, what do I want to be known for recognized for appreciated for what kind of audience do I want to attract? Who do I want to you know, bring to my community and who would I like to keep out of my community? And from that perspective, it, it also is a relatively easy answer, right? Like, I, I want people I'm happy to have you know, what would have been classically called political disagreements on like, well, what should the tax code look like? Or how should we do zoning and you know, a neighborhood or well, what about, what about investments in whatever it is, you know, military versus environmental spending versus regulation on mining, like, okay, those are all political conversations that I think are, are reasonable. And then there are unreasonable political conversations like, well, should we allow blacks and Jewish people to live? That's not a political conversation. Right? I of, that's not, that's just human, right. Rand (35:42): That's not an open for debate conversation. Right. And I think unfortunately there has been a a rash of sort of, well, don't you want diversity of thought and diversity of thought just means a diversity of thought to me is like a look I'd like to be white supremacists and not get criticized for it. And so can we just agree to, let me be like that? No, we cannot agree on that. That is an untenable well position. We're not, I'm not okay with it, so right. I'm I am, I'm happy to turn away those audiences and build a, you know, build an audience around that. That resonates with my perspective. I also think about it from a third perspective, which is what does the structure of the business that I'm building forced me to accept and allow me to work with them. Rand (36:37): And so this was one of another really big reason. I didn't want to raise venture capital because yeah. Makes sense. Yeah. Right. Like in the venture backed world, you do not that you need to be milk toast, but you are absolutely pressured to build a giant market and building a giant market often means attempting to turn off almost no one. Yeah. Right. Attempting to be uncontroversial in a lot of ways. And and I don't think that's a healthy or right thing. I am. I mean, I'll definitely say, I think probably a lot of Americans and a lot of people all around the world who are facing sort of this nationalist, autocratic surge in politics that we've been seeing globally. Right. A lot of, a lot of those folks, a lot of folks are frustrated that like these sorts of issues have become so front of the top of mind for so many people all the time, I, I feel that frustration too, right? Rand (37:43): Like I'm, I am absolutely in the world of, gosh, I, you know, I really disliked a lot of previous administration's policies and like things in the United States, but I never felt like they were going to absolve us of our democracy. And now suddenly we have to worry about that. And that that's very frustrating. I don't like that. So I think that this these sort of three things have guided me towards an ability to say, okay, the structure of my business, the way that I want to attract customers and market to them and the audience that I want to build. And my philosophy and ethics are all in alignment. I don't know that every business owner gets to do that, but yeah, I hope I hope they do because they should. It's absolutely. It's, it's obviously the, the best way to go. I need more people Kathleen (38:38): That hits the nail on the head, because I know I've always said this, like when it comes to taking a position, there's not like any one position everybody should take. I mean, that's where the owner of the company, the founder has to kind of a very much align with them as a person and you are going to attract the people that are naturally attracted to that same position. And so it is, it is interesting, but I think it takes a lot of guts and I really commend you for it. And, and you're right. Yeah. I don't think you could do it if you had traditional investment in your company. Rand (39:09): Yeah. I mean, I certainly could, but it would put me in conflict with some of the goals and expectations. It could create strife and you know, who knows if I would be able to maintain that longterm. I think, you know, as a, as a key example, right. You can see with with Facebook and Zuckerberg, this sort of like and, and Larry and Sergei and Eric Schmidt and Sundar Pichai at Google, you can feel this sort of tension between like, they sort of know what the right thing to do is, but they're really scared about doing it because of fears of a combination of like political interference from, you know, people who's in who's interested is not, and market fears around, you know, where, what their users will do, what their customers will do, and the fact that they have to generate billions of extra dollars of revenue every quarter. Kathleen (40:07): Yeah. Yeah. It's a prison that they've grown into over time. I think. Rand (40:12): Yeah. I mean, we, we amplify that, like there's a lot of, there are a lot of people I'm sure there are people listening to this podcast right now who equate a person's worth with their productivity and their economic entrepreneurial contributions, right. And their financial success. That is a pretty terrible metric of a person's worth, right? Like we all know we should be measuring people's worth in the kindness that they bring to the world around them and the way they build relationships and how they and, and fundamentally all human beings are worth while. Right. All of us have, that's why human rights exists. And, and reducing that to this late stage capitalist model of like, you are how much money you make. That's, that's a bad way to go friends. Kathleen (41:08): And this is why you are widely known as the nicest guy in marketing. Is that, so that is the word on the street. I'm just gonna, Rand (41:16): Or a significant number of people on Twitter who disagree. Kathleen (41:19): Oh, well, there's a significant number of people on Twitter who disagree with everything. So so going back for a minute to, you made a point about digital PR and again, I'm going to just sort of put this through the filter of, there are probably a lot of people who think, Oh, well, that's easy for Rand Fishkin. Cause he's everybody knows who he is so he can get the interview. So any advice for founders who don't have the reputation as to how to go about doing that? Rand (41:47): Yeah. Yeah. So this is an area where I think before you start your company, it is hugely valuable to build up your expertise in a niche and to build up a network as well. Right? So that doesn't have to be through, you know, blogging. It could be through your social channels. It could be through video. It could be through hosting your own podcast. It could be through unique research that you do. It could be through one on one consulting and help that you give people whatever it is, right. But build your expertise and then use that expertise to build your network so that you are known for having that talent and being able to contribute in those ways. Once you do that, then it is so much easier to do all of the forms of digital PR and, and earning amplification getting attention. I cannot recommend it enough, but I think for whatever reason, there's this sort of sense of in the entrepreneurial world. Like I start my company, I build my product and then I figure out how to market it. No, Kathleen (42:52): Oh, backwards. Rand (42:55): That's not how you do it. Right. First, if you build up a community of people who care about the problem you're solving, even before you have the product that solves it, your launch and your growth will be so much easier. Right. So don't, you know, I'm not, I'm not saying this from the perspective of like, yes, I obviously have the privilege of, you know, the 20 years that I spent at Moz building up a, a reasonably sized following in this sort of niche of digital marketing world. But that, that can be a relatively easy, easily achieved, not necessarily the same degree, but easily started down the path of, and you don't need 15,000 people on your email list if you have 1500 or 150, that is still such a better starting point than zero. Yeah. Kathleen (43:41): Yeah. Yeah. I love that. So when you think about the future of SparkToro and where you're going to go from here, what how do you think you're going to grow it moving forward? Is it still the same strategy of digital PR and really great content? Or are you changing anything starting anything new? Rand (43:59): I, so I really, Kathleen, I really desperately want to invest in self hosted self created episodic content. Like what I did with whiteboard Friday at Moz, right? Like a series, probably something with video. Cause I'm reasonably good and experienced with video. Maybe involving a whiteboard too. I don't know. But the what's holding me back right now is, is time and bandwidth and investment dollars. Right. So I know that, you know, if I was going to do something like that, I'd probably want a video producer that's super challenging during COVID just, you know, by for one thing. And it's also a really hard to make the time available when it's just me and Casey working on SparkToro. So I think, you know, it might be next year when we're, you know, able to grow enough, to be able to bring in another hire or to invest in a, you know, whatever a content agency that helps me produce that that content with some consistency. Rand (45:00): But I, I do think that would be a very valuable thing. And even doing that something like once a month, you know, having a monthly episode of a, whatever, 15 to 30 minute video series on topics related to things that are of interest to our audience, that probably would do pretty well. So episodic content I think is, is very under invested in because it's hard to start. It's hard to get the motivation to keep going. It, it generally doesn't, you know, take off immediately. Like it's a, it's a slow burn, slow build process, but it is something we really want to invest in. Kathleen (45:37): I love that. Well, I will watch it when it starts tell me then I'm in the Rand super fan club clearly. Rand (45:47): What I love, I love what I love about it is like the, it almost works like the Netflix model, you know, where you, you see one episode of the show and you're like, Ooh, that was really good. I kind of want to binge watch all of them. Right. And if there's a big catalog, you just get all this engagement and yeah, I'd like that. I think that model has legs. I don't see a ton of people investing in it. So I'd like to do something like that. Nice. Kathleen (46:13): Well, we're going to come up to the top of the hour and I have a thousand more questions I want to ask, but we don't have time for it. So what I'm going to do is shift gears because there are two questions that I ask all of my guests at the end of every interview. And I don't want to end without having the opportunity to find out what you have to say about this. The first one is this podcast is all about inbound marketing. Is there a particular company or individual that today you think is really kind of setting the gold standard for what it means to be a great inbound marketer? Rand (46:47): Ooh. Okay. Kathleen (46:49): You can name more than one if you want to. Rand (46:51): Yeah. I mean, there's a bunch of folks who have been really impressing me lately. Let's see. So I don't know if you follow Melanie Deziel. She wrote a, she, yes. Yeah. Okay. So she writes, she just published, I think earlier this year Content Fuel Framework which I think, Hey, look at that. Hey Melanie, look, I'm promoting your book. No, I, I, I think, I think the world of Melanie she's extraordinary and she just she just keeps contributing in, in such a remarkable ways. I think she's keynoting content marketing world, the digital version, this week. Kathleen (47:30): Wow. That's awesome. Rand (47:31): Isn't it incredible. So amazing stuff from her. I've also been really impressed with, do you follow Nandini Jammi on Twitter? She's @nandoodles. Kathleen (47:43): I feel like I maybe even touched base with her about coming on the podcast. Rand (47:48): Oh, amazing. Yeah. So she is my God. She's so impressive. Like she's kind of my hero. She's she's been working on kind of a, a, a new version of brand safety and advert and helping advertisers save money and optimize their spend away from manipulative and sort of trolling. And I don't know what you would you call it, like sort of non-factual you know, Macedonian creatives. Kathleen (48:24): This is why, so I know her not through the podcast, but I'm in week four at a new job. And my company is, amongst other things, we solve for publishers. We have an anti malvertising software. This is why I know her. Rand (48:40): Got it right. She was one of the cofounders of Sleeping giants. Now she's the co founder of check my ads. And so they, you know, she, but she writes about and talks about all these topics on, you know, national media and and, and online. And she's just extraordinarily smart. I think she, she's a what I would say she's like a very sharp edged person on Twitter. And like many folks, right? She's, she's, she's much more sort of heartfelt and, and a little more, you know, leans into kindness off of Twitter, which, which we probably all do when we're not limited to 280 characters, but I think the world of her I'm super impressed with her work. Sarah Evans from, she's @PRSarahEvans on Twitter. She has a newsletter. She does amazing work in the PR field, especially for early stage companies. Super impressed with her. Yeah. So that's awesome. Kathleen (49:36): I love all of those and none of them have been on the podcast. So I'm going to have to reach out to them now and ask them to come on. Rand (49:41): I have so many recommendations for you Kathleen. Kathleen (49:46): We're going to talk. Second question is the biggest challenge I hear a lot of marketers say they experiences is that keeping up with the changing world of digital marketing is like drinking from a fire hose. How do you personally keep yourself educated, stay up to date on all of these changes? Rand (50:03): I built my own tool for it. I dunno. I dunno if you have checked out, but we have this thing called trending on SparkToro. It's just sparktoro.com/trending. And when you go there, it's basically like the 25 most diversely shared articles, every 12 hours by digital on Twitter. So we essentially just built a little system, you know, where people OAuth their account, their Twitter account, into the trending tool. It's free. It's not like part of our paid package or anything, but yeah, like, I don't know, seven or 800 marketers every day, read, trending, and check it out. And so, yeah, it's fun too cause people reply and be like, Oh, so cool. Our article was on trending today. Rand (50:51): You can get traffic from it. And you can, you can go there once a week or once a month and click the, like, what was the most shared article this month, this week, any given day. And that has been super useful. Like really it helps Casey and I just kind of stay on top of everything going on in digital marketing world. With very little effort, like we don't have to scroll through a bunch of feeds. We can just like, Oh, all right. That one looks interesting. That's cool. Kathleen (51:20): So it takes the firehose and turns it into a little garden hose for people. Rand (51:24): Exactly. Kathleen (51:25): I love that. Yeah. well we are now coming to the top of the hour and so unfortunately we're going to need to wrap it up. If people are listening and they have questions for you want to follow you or connect with you, learn more about SparkToro, what is the best way for them to do that? Rand (51:42): Sure. So my email address is rand@sparktoro.com. I'm pretty fast on email. I am most active on Twitter where I'm @Randfish. And if you are interested in trying SparkToro for free forever, it sparktoro.com. Kathleen (51:57): Awesome. All right, there, you have it. We, we could go for 10 hours, but we only had one. If you enjoyed this episode, as much as I did head to Apple podcasts or the platform or your choice, and I would love it, if you would leave the podcast a review because that's how other people find us. And if you know someone else who's a kick ass inbound marketing person, tweet me @workmommywork because I would love to interview them. That is it for this week. Thank you so much, Rand. This was amazing. Rand (52:25): Great to be here. Thanks for having me, Kathleen.

Welcome to episode number 96 of Fitlandia Podcast. I'm super excited because today we have another story of transformation. My guest today is Sean Harvey and I just know he's going to inspire you and give you insights that are going to keep you moving forward on your own journey. I met him a few months back at Leanne Vogel's Ketogenic Diet Cookbook tour here in Portland and he and I were waiting in line to meet our idle and after talking with him for just a few minutes, I knew I had to have him on the show. So after he listened to this episode, please head over to iTunes and give a rating and review and let Sean know what you got out of today's episode. Highlights: 5:35  There were a number of things that had been put in front of me to help with my wellness. And then a really good friend who is a holistic nutritionist just one day - and I don't know what it was about this day or what it was about these words that she said to me, but she just said, "Hey Sean, let's do keto together." I've only ever heard of it in a couple of fitness communities, so I had no idea. It might as well have been a martial arts or something like that for me. But I was like, oh sure, let's do it. I had no plan. And this was a plan and I had someone who was going to do it with me. And so I just said yes. And uh, it's been almost 22 weeks this tomorrow we 22 weeks and that's changed my life.  11:39  I lost a good friend to cancer and that was very difficult. It hit me in a different way too because he was a healthy guy. He'd made a lot of the right choices. He's very athletic, very active, and he got taken super young from cancer, which something he couldn't control. And then here's me tempting fate with all the things I can control. So it kind of shook me awake in, into action. 16:43 I looked at what I could gain from it and it seems like such a simple thing. But like you mentioned, the brain is super powerful. And when you speak words of positivity and words of affirmation as opposed to the negative side, it causes a reaction in your body that moves you forward in the direction you want to go. 22:31 I'm starting to feel like I'm stepping out of that prison cell that I've been in for so long and understanding what freedom looks like for me. And I think my heart is opening up to more possibilities and more ways in which I can affect change for others and let them know that it's not hopeless.

We are back to cartoons and kicking off our new schedule with He-Man and the Masters of the Universe! Sean has brought his "Masters of the Universe" with returning guests Jason Woods and Isabel Galbraith.  WE HAVE THE POWER! *echo echo echo*         If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "He-Man!" with the review, "Hey Sean, Jason, and Isabel.  You finally got around to He-Man.  My favorite character is ." 2. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 3. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 4. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

We are back to cartoons and kicking off our new schedule with He-Man and the Masters of the Universe! Sean has brought his "Masters of the Universe" with returning guests Jason Woods and Isabel Galbraith.  WE HAVE THE POWER! *echo echo echo*         If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "He-Man!" with the review, "Hey Sean, Jason, and Isabel.  You finally got around to He-Man.  My favorite character is ." 2. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 3. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 4. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

Part 4 of our month on summer vacation!  We've packed up our beach gear and on break for the next four weeks, and don't worry, we're not leaving you without some fun content in the name of post show extras that get weird!  Enjoy.         If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "He-Man?!" with the review, "Hey Sean and Dave! He-Man next week?!  "Yup" - Us ." 2. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 3. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 4. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

Part 4 of our month on summer vacation!  We've packed up our beach gear and on break for the next four weeks, and don't worry, we're not leaving you without some fun content in the name of post show extras that get weird!  Enjoy.         If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "He-Man?!" with the review, "Hey Sean and Dave! He-Man next week?!  "Yup" - Us ." 2. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 3. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 4. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

Part 3 of our month on summer vacation!  We've packed up our beach gear and on break for the next four weeks, and don't worry, we're not leaving you without some fun content in the name of post show extras that get weird!  Enjoy.         If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Third Vacation: Tokyo Drift" with the review, "Hey Sean and Dave! Twice a month?  REALLY?!  "Yup" - Us ." 2. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 3. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 4. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

Part 3 of our month on summer vacation!  We've packed up our beach gear and on break for the next four weeks, and don't worry, we're not leaving you without some fun content in the name of post show extras that get weird!  Enjoy.         If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Third Vacation: Tokyo Drift" with the review, "Hey Sean and Dave! Twice a month?  REALLY?!  "Yup" - Us ." 2. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 3. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 4. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

Part 2 of our month on summer vacation!  We've packed up our beach gear and on break for the next four weeks, and don't worry, we're not leaving you without some fun content in the name of post show extras that get weird!  Enjoy.         If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Second Vacation" with the review, "Hey Sean and Dave! You're really getting lazy with this month, right?  "Yup" - Us ." 2. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 3. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 4. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

Part 2 of our month on summer vacation!  We've packed up our beach gear and on break for the next four weeks, and don't worry, we're not leaving you without some fun content in the name of post show extras that get weird!  Enjoy.         If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Second Vacation" with the review, "Hey Sean and Dave! You're really getting lazy with this month, right?  "Yup" - Us ." 2. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 3. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 4. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

For the entire month of June 2018, we're on summer vacation!  We've packed up our beach gear and on break for the next four weeks, and don't worry, we're not leaving you without some fun content in the name of post show extras that get weird!  Enjoy.         If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Vacation" with the review, "Hey Sean and Dave!  I did the following on my vacation ." 2. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 3. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 4. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

For the entire month of June 2018, we're on summer vacation!  We've packed up our beach gear and on break for the next four weeks, and don't worry, we're not leaving you without some fun content in the name of post show extras that get weird!  Enjoy.         If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Vacation" with the review, "Hey Sean and Dave!  I did the following on my vacation ." 2. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 3. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 4. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

We're closing out our SMC Listener Suggestion month in May with a good old, "let's get it on," from referee Mills Lane.  Tony Lazzeroni joins Sean for MTV's Celebrity Deathmatch and all of the pop-culture fueled tropes that can be assembled with a slab of clay.        Will Tony form like Voltron with Sean?  Will Sean enter Hell in order to resurrect a boy band from the 90's? (answers: NO WAY and probably) All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Wresting" with the review, "Hey Sean and Tony!  My favorite wrestling memory is ." 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

We're closing out our SMC Listener Suggestion month in May with a good old, "let's get it on," from referee Mills Lane.  Tony Lazzeroni joins Sean for MTV's Celebrity Deathmatch and all of the pop-culture fueled tropes that can be assembled with a slab of clay.        Will Tony form like Voltron with Sean?  Will Sean enter Hell in order to resurrect a boy band from the 90's? (answers: NO WAY and probably) All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Wresting" with the review, "Hey Sean and Tony!  My favorite wrestling memory is ." 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

Let's enter a virtual world that has zero stakes to fight a cloud monster named XANA.   We're watching Code Lyoko on the penultimate episode of our  Listener Appreciation month.  Grab your radish headed tech geniuses and get ready "virtualize" with the kids of Kadic Academy.           Dave finally get an answer to his ASL question with getting virtual?  Will Sean ever find a virtual world with stakes?   (answers: yes, and probably not) All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Raddish head kids" with the review, "Hey Sean and Dave!  Can you make a raddish head kids cartoon and make the target audience raddishes?  Please?" 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

Let's enter a virtual world that has zero stakes to fight a cloud monster named XANA.   We're watching Code Lyoko on the penultimate episode of our  Listener Appreciation month.  Grab your radish headed tech geniuses and get ready "virtualize" with the kids of Kadic Academy.           Dave finally get an answer to his ASL question with getting virtual?  Will Sean ever find a virtual world with stakes?   (answers: yes, and probably not) All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Raddish head kids" with the review, "Hey Sean and Dave!  Can you make a raddish head kids cartoon and make the target audience raddishes?  Please?" 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

A bully cat, a kingpin cat, and a bunch of loveable goof cats?  We're watching the well animated rip-off of Garfield this week, otherwise known as Heathcliff and the Catillac Cats.  Just copy/paste Garfield's "lasagna" with "bullying other cats" and you've basically got Heathcliff.   Special guest Alex Kazanas!         Will Dave start caterwauling again? Will Sean living in a junk yard?  Will Alex get a date with Cleo?  (answers: yes, yes, and yes again!) All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "The Great Pussini" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave, and Alex!  Why do you guys all hate cats?  I don't get it!  Did you get in a fight with one as a kid?" 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

A bully cat, a kingpin cat, and a bunch of loveable goof cats?  We're watching the well animated rip-off of Garfield this week, otherwise known as Heathcliff and the Catillac Cats.  Just copy/paste Garfield's "lasagna" with "bullying other cats" and you've basically got Heathcliff.   Special guest Alex Kazanas!         Will Dave start caterwauling again? Will Sean living in a junk yard?  Will Alex get a date with Cleo?  (answers: yes, yes, and yes again!) All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "The Great Pussini" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave, and Alex!  Why do you guys all hate cats?  I don't get it!  Did you get in a fight with one as a kid?" 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

May is listener suggestion month and we're kicking it off with Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma.  Food and crazy ecchi reaction are the flavors within this anime recommended by William.  The show pairs well with a nice "gotta pork" dish.  We are very hungry.         Will Dave reconsider whether this is too much ecchi? Will Sean eat octopus and peanuts?   (answers: probably and no lie, Sean ate octopus and peanuts a week later.)  All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Food Wars" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave!  I want to see a food war between the two of you using Soylent, please." 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

May is listener suggestion month and we're kicking it off with Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma.  Food and crazy ecchi reaction are the flavors within this anime recommended by William.  The show pairs well with a nice "gotta pork" dish.  We are very hungry.         Will Dave reconsider whether this is too much ecchi? Will Sean eat octopus and peanuts?   (answers: probably and no lie, Sean ate octopus and peanuts a week later.)  All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Food Wars" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave!  I want to see a food war between the two of you using Soylent, please." 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

An anime insprired shows from the lead singer of the band Vampire Weekend?  That also stars Jaden Smith and an incredible voice cast?  We are wrapping up Anime April with Netflix's Neo Yokio!  Cheers to all the Caprese Boys.         Will Dave wear a midnight blue tuxedo? Will Sean make a caprese martini?  Will Allison be saved by a a giant toblerone? (answers: probably, definitely, and a toblerone has already saved her life) All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Neo Yokio" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave!  When are we all gonna get robot butlers?  Or at least a small cockney women to help us through the day?" 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

An anime insprired shows from the lead singer of the band Vampire Weekend?  That also stars Jaden Smith and an incredible voice cast?  We are wrapping up Anime April with Netflix's Neo Yokio!  Cheers to all the Caprese Boys.         Will Dave wear a midnight blue tuxedo? Will Sean make a caprese martini?  Will Allison be saved by a a giant toblerone? (answers: probably, definitely, and a toblerone has already saved her life) All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Neo Yokio" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave!  When are we all gonna get robot butlers?  Or at least a small cockney women to help us through the day?" 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

Boxing, body horror, and bomb-shell babes?  This week we traveling through the Valley of Kings to fight some Ren's.  Grab your Groupon for Dave MacKenzie's boxing club and join Sean and Dave for a little podcast 1, 2 punch!           Will Dave join a boxing club? Will Sean go through cronenberg style body horrors?  (answers: yes and absolutely) All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Lastman" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave!  When you spoil stuff then we can't have nice things!  Why do you do this to us?" 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

Boxing, body horror, and bomb-shell babes?  This week we traveling through the Valley of Kings to fight some Ren's.  Grab your Groupon for Dave MacKenzie's boxing club and join Sean and Dave for a little podcast 1, 2 punch!           Will Dave join a boxing club? Will Sean go through cronenberg style body horrors?  (answers: yes and absolutely) All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Lastman" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave!  When you spoil stuff then we can't have nice things!  Why do you do this to us?" 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

Badass women fighting Grimm across the four kingdoms of Remnant?!  Sean and Dave watched RWBY by Rooster Teeth.  It has so many action packed battle scenes that you can shake a High-Caliber Sniper-Scythe at this show.           Will Dave join the White Fang? Will Sean buy a video game with better cut-scenes?  (answers: yes and no) All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "RWBY" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave!  The team CVFE intro is the best!  CAFFEEEEEEIIINNNNEEEE!" 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

Badass women fighting Grimm across the four kingdoms of Remnant?!  Sean and Dave watched RWBY by Rooster Teeth.  It has so many action packed battle scenes that you can shake a High-Caliber Sniper-Scythe at this show.           Will Dave join the White Fang? Will Sean buy a video game with better cut-scenes?  (answers: yes and no) All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "RWBY" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave!  The team CVFE intro is the best!  CAFFEEEEEEIIINNNNEEEE!" 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

We would normally add a quick write up about this week's cartoon - Animaniacs.  Honestly, we're just humbled and delighted that we were able to make 200 episodes of this show. We're eternally grateful that so many of you listen and that so many contributed with voice messages and write in comments on Animaniacs.  We can't do this without all of you and cheers to another 100 episodes.  Will Dave get his 365th episode so you can listen to an episode every day of the year?  Will Sean finish his doctorial thesis on cartoon drug episode from San Francisco City College? (answers- yes and most likely because Sean is so stubborn) All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "200th" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave!  You guys are being too mushy.  Back to goofs and jokes!" 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

We would normally add a quick write up about this week's cartoon - Animaniacs.  Honestly, we're just humbled and delighted that we were able to make 200 episodes of this show. We're eternally grateful that so many of you listen and that so many contributed with voice messages and write in comments on Animaniacs.  We can't do this without all of you and cheers to another 100 episodes.  Will Dave get his 365th episode so you can listen to an episode every day of the year?  Will Sean finish his doctorial thesis on cartoon drug episode from San Francisco City College? (answers- yes and most likely because Sean is so stubborn) All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "200th" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave!  You guys are being too mushy.  Back to goofs and jokes!" 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

Have you ever wanted to feel powerful?  Truly powerful and able to help people in trouble?  Izuku Midoriya felt that way.  After self sacrifice he was granted a miraculous gift that ...well, may actually end up killing him in the end.  Sean and Dave watched My Hero Academia and saw the successes and failures of Class 1A at U.A. High School.  Will Midoriya be a successful hero?  Or will the League of Viilains actually organize and see to the demise of Class 1A? Will Dave's "cringe" quirk be consistent throughout the episode?  Will Sean's "misinterpretation" quirk ever come in handy?  (answers no and no) All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Quirk" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave!  My crime fighting quirk would be ... !" 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

Have you ever wanted to feel powerful?  Truly powerful and able to help people in trouble?  Izuku Midoriya felt that way.  After self sacrifice he was granted a miraculous gift that ...well, may actually end up killing him in the end.  Sean and Dave watched My Hero Academia and saw the successes and failures of Class 1A at U.A. High School.  Will Midoriya be a successful hero?  Or will the League of Viilains actually organize and see to the demise of Class 1A? Will Dave's "cringe" quirk be consistent throughout the episode?  Will Sean's "misinterpretation" quirk ever come in handy?  (answers no and no) All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Quirk" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave!  My crime fighting quirk would be ... !" 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

It's the final week of Disney March Madness and we have a heavy weight bout for you - Aladdin vs Ducktales!  A lift and shift from an iconic Disney movie versus really the reason that Disney was able to put cartoons in syndication.  The hero of Agrabah versus the thristiest duck in the world...okay, okay, you get the picture.  It's too huge franchises going head to head with special guest Melanie Harker.  Plus, we wrap up the totals for the entire month and declare a Disney winner! Will Dave be able to pull off Genie likes moves?  Will Sean swim through money? Will Melanie talk about her career as an ornithologist?  (answers no, no, and triple no!) All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Disney Cage Match Final" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave!  This is my recipe for GummiBerry juice !" 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

It's the final week of Disney March Madness and we have a heavy weight bout for you - Aladdin vs Ducktales!  A lift and shift from an iconic Disney movie versus really the reason that Disney was able to put cartoons in syndication.  The hero of Agrabah versus the thristiest duck in the world...okay, okay, you get the picture.  It's too huge franchises going head to head with special guest Melanie Harker.  Plus, we wrap up the totals for the entire month and declare a Disney winner! Will Dave be able to pull off Genie likes moves?  Will Sean swim through money? Will Melanie talk about her career as an ornithologist?  (answers no, no, and triple no!) All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Disney Cage Match Final" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave!  This is my recipe for GummiBerry juice !" 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

Bouncing bears versus chipmunk sleuths?!  You know what that means; Gummi Bears and Chip 'n Dale!  Oh the marvels of two solid theme songs that have stood the test of time.  But does the animation and plot still hold up?  After all of these years are the Gummi Bears more than just a sugary confection or are the humans more important in the show?  Are the Rescue Rangers really astute crime solvers or do they manager to get in their own way AND create trouble? Will Dave admit to his Gummiberry juice addictions?  Will Sean admit to his crush on Gadget? Will Allison reveal the recipe for Gummiberry juice? (answer yes, yes, and yes!) All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Disney Cage Match round 3" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave!  Why would you pit two amazing theme songs against each other? What is your problem?" 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

Bouncing bears versus chipmunk sleuths?!  You know what that means; Gummi Bears and Chip 'n Dale!  Oh the marvels of two solid theme songs that have stood the test of time.  But does the animation and plot still hold up?  After all of these years are the Gummi Bears more than just a sugary confection or are the humans more important in the show?  Are the Rescue Rangers really astute crime solvers or do they manager to get in their own way AND create trouble? Will Dave admit to his Gummiberry juice addictions?  Will Sean admit to his crush on Gadget? Will Allison reveal the recipe for Gummiberry juice? (answer yes, yes, and yes!) All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Disney Cage Match round 3" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave!  Why would you pit two amazing theme songs against each other? What is your problem?" 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

Second week and a second group of challengers enter into the Cartoon Octagon!  This week we have a two "cash grabs" turned into cartoons for your view and reviewing pleasure.  The hip, cool, and rad rip off of Ducktales versus the seemingly unchanged duo that now hang out at Pride Rock.  Yes, Quack Pack vs Timon and Pumbaa.  Is this a battle we all need?  The answer is MAYBE!  Will Dave be able to travel through the cosmos as member of the T-Squad?  Will Sean be get a nut for that THICC squirrel? (answers no and come everyone, absolutely not) All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Disney Cage Match round 2" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave!  You should stop this podcast and make it into a straight 90's podcast." 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

Second week and a second group of challengers enter into the Cartoon Octagon!  This week we have a two "cash grabs" turned into cartoons for your view and reviewing pleasure.  The hip, cool, and rad rip off of Ducktales versus the seemingly unchanged duo that now hang out at Pride Rock.  Yes, Quack Pack vs Timon and Pumbaa.  Is this a battle we all need?  The answer is MAYBE!  Will Dave be able to travel through the cosmos as member of the T-Squad?  Will Sean be get a nut for that THICC squirrel? (answers no and come everyone, absolutely not) All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Disney Cage Match round 2" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave!  You should stop this podcast and make it into a straight 90's podcast." 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

Break out the brackets because it's March and we're revamping our March Madness month to include Disney Cartoons!  In the first week of seeding, we've pitting Goofy against Bonkers D. Bobcat.  Will Goofy move back to Spoonerville with his son Max be enough to clench a victory?  Will Bonkers new job as a cop be enough to bring home the 'W?'  Also, is Bonkers seriously what passes as a bobcat in cartoons because he's pretty weird and now we're confused.   Also, this is the first espisode that Sean and Dave have recorded in the same place at the same time! Will Dave reveal that he has a son named Max?  Will Sean leave his job and become a detective like Bonkers?  (answers: absolutely not and hell no)    All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Disney Cage Match" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave!  Why are you making cartoon fight again each other?  And Disney cartoons?  You're both animals." 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

Break out the brackets because it's March and we're revamping our March Madness month to include Disney Cartoons!  In the first week of seeding, we've pitting Goofy against Bonkers D. Bobcat.  Will Goofy move back to Spoonerville with his son Max be enough to clench a victory?  Will Bonkers new job as a cop be enough to bring home the 'W?'  Also, is Bonkers seriously what passes as a bobcat in cartoons because he's pretty weird and now we're confused.   Also, this is the first espisode that Sean and Dave have recorded in the same place at the same time! Will Dave reveal that he has a son named Max?  Will Sean leave his job and become a detective like Bonkers?  (answers: absolutely not and hell no)    All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Disney Cage Match" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave!  Why are you making cartoon fight again each other?  And Disney cartoons?  You're both animals." 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

Almost 200 episodes and we haven't talked about Scooby Doo, Where Are You!, until now.  To mark this monumental ocassion, we've brought in Matt Reuter and Aviv Rubinstein from the podcast Law & Order: Special Viewing Unit.  Sean and Dave are also decided to turn our show into a court room drama so buckle up for our version of Judge Dredd plus 12 Angry Men!  Will Matt and Aviv become the best damn legal time in the business or will this turn into a bad sequel to the movie My Cousin Vinny?  Will Aviv get thrown in contempt?  Will Matt succeed in this Cartoon Courtroom?  Will Dave become a kangaroo?  Will Sean become Judge Dredd? (answers yes, yes, yes, and yes and the Sly version of Dredd) All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Objection" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave! This was clearly a mistrail and the whole damn court room is out of order!  You can't handle the truth!" 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

Almost 200 episodes and we haven't talked about Scooby Doo, Where Are You!, until now.  To mark this monumental ocassion, we've brought in Matt Reuter and Aviv Rubinstein from the podcast Law & Order: Special Viewing Unit.  Sean and Dave are also decided to turn our show into a court room drama so buckle up for our version of Judge Dredd plus 12 Angry Men!  Will Matt and Aviv become the best damn legal time in the business or will this turn into a bad sequel to the movie My Cousin Vinny?  Will Aviv get thrown in contempt?  Will Matt succeed in this Cartoon Courtroom?  Will Dave become a kangaroo?  Will Sean become Judge Dredd? (answers yes, yes, yes, and yes and the Sly version of Dredd) All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Objection" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave! This was clearly a mistrail and the whole damn court room is out of order!  You can't handle the truth!" 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

Stand outside a fence?  Check.  Crack open a beer?  Check. Watch the world go 'round you at a break-neck speed?  Check. You're a simple man and you sell propane and propane accessories.  We are of course talking about King of the Hill which is a rare cartoon wine; it gets better as it gets older.  DC performer Isabel Galbraith joins us to this week to tell us why she loves KotH so much.  Fasten your saftey belt on your ride-on mower and get ready for the calm awkwardness that is King of the Hill. Will Dave do his best Boomhauer impression?  Will Sean be able to finally braid hair?  Will Isabel adopt a dog named Ladybird? (answers yes, yes, and YES!)  All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "King of the Hill" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave! I think the best character on KotH is Greg Daniels.  Poor guy doesn't get enough credit." 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

Stand outside a fence?  Check.  Crack open a beer?  Check. Watch the world go 'round you at a break-neck speed?  Check. You're a simple man and you sell propane and propane accessories.  We are of course talking about King of the Hill which is a rare cartoon wine; it gets better as it gets older.  DC performer Isabel Galbraith joins us to this week to tell us why she loves KotH so much.  Fasten your saftey belt on your ride-on mower and get ready for the calm awkwardness that is King of the Hill. Will Dave do his best Boomhauer impression?  Will Sean be able to finally braid hair?  Will Isabel adopt a dog named Ladybird? (answers yes, yes, and YES!)  All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "King of the Hill" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave! I think the best character on KotH is Greg Daniels.  Poor guy doesn't get enough credit." 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

We dip back in time to a twitter user who mentioned a little show called Time Squad.  Had we spent more time in the past, we would have probably written down this listeners name but time travel is tough!  Mistakes were made and the important thing is that we watched a great show called Time Squad. Will Dave become a supreme gift giver? Will Sean ever stop Rule 34-ing cartoons? (answers yes and no) All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Time Squad" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave! May we travel back to in together?  That'd be my #squadgoals." 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

We dip back in time to a twitter user who mentioned a little show called Time Squad.  Had we spent more time in the past, we would have probably written down this listeners name but time travel is tough!  Mistakes were made and the important thing is that we watched a great show called Time Squad. Will Dave become a supreme gift giver? Will Sean ever stop Rule 34-ing cartoons? (answers yes and no) All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Time Squad" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave! May we travel back to in together?  That'd be my #squadgoals." 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

We are digging back into the 90's and Image comics with HBO's Spawn.  Or wait, is it HBO's Todd McFarlane's Spawn?  Or is it just Todd McFarlane presents, "An awkward intro with Todd, guest staring Todd Spawn?"  It gets weird so bring a friends, because we brought Evan Valentine back to the show!  Will Dave ever move out of Hobo alley?  Will Evan 'turn the lights off?'  Will Sean whisper to you via telepathy?  (answers no, probably, and yes) All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Spawn" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave! I'm going to whisper this review - "5 stars!" 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

Did you think we were all done talking about Rugrats?  We're NEVER done with Rugrats although from the name of this show you might no realize that this is a Klasky Csupo production.  Yes, it's the Rugrats that you know and love but now they have necks and they don't have to hide the fact that they can speak.  Will Dave finally be 'All Growed Up?'  Will Sean be able to keep up with the Klasky Csupo lumpy body shapes?  (answers yes and yes)  All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "All Growed Up" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave! A babies gotta review what a babies gotta review!" 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

Whenever Sean and Dave talk about a genius we need to recruit a genius of our own, so we invited Dr. Jason Woods back to the show!  We're in the middle of some weird Nicktoons at the moment and grappling with Jimmy Neutron, purpoted 'Boy Genius.'   Anyone else think that Jimmy is an abusive friend?  We're getting that vibe.  Will Dave be able to pick up his 300 pairs of pants?  Will Jason continue to show us his Under Lord undies?  Will Sean obsess over the pants pocket that conducted a symphony?  (answes no, yes, and definitely)  All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Shaped like veggies" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave! I think that (Sean or Dave) is shaped like (insert vegetable here)!" 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons

Gather up you action figures and get ready to chuck them across the room because we're watching Action League Now! this week.   We discussed the original Action League Now! almost 100 episodes ago but then it was part of the sketch cartoon comedy show called KaBlam! on Nick. Now we're getting to see Action League Now! as it's own stand-alone show!  Will it work out as a 22 minute show?  Let's see what Sean and Dave have to say.  Will Dave start a show with his own action figures?  Will Sean be able to get Dave's references about movies? (answers Yes and Nope!)   All of this and more on this week's episode of the Saturday Mourning Cartoons podcast.  If you are digging our show and want to help you out, then you can do so in the following ways: 1. Check out our Patreon page and become a backer of the show.  You can find our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/saturdaymourningcartoons 2. Leave a review on iTunes with the following message titled "Bad ideas" with the review, "Hey Sean, Dave! Why did you tell me to bankrupt myself and crash my car?  Cuz I did both!" 3. Like our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/SaturdayMourningCartoons/ 4. Follow us on twitter @MourningToons 5. Check us out on Instagram @SaturdayMourningCartoons