Podcast appearances and mentions of katherine schweit

What happens when a person disappears—and the world slowly stops looking? In this episode of Stop the Killing, Katherine Schweit is joined by Aimee Baker and Vanessa Ciccarelli, hosts of the podcast She Goes by Jane, which centres the lives and stories of missing and unidentified women. Aimee explains how her work began after she learned about an unidentified teenage girl found beside Interstate 10 outside Phoenix. Unable to comprehend how someone so young could remain nameless, she began researching missing-person cases and transforming that grief into poetry. Those poems eventually became her collection, Doe. After reading the book, filmmaker and photographer Vanessa approached Aimee about creating a documentary. The result was She, narrated by Kate Mulgrew and featuring poetry read by Coco Jones and Raven Goodwin. Their work then grew into the podcast She Goes by Jane, allowing them to investigate more cases and spend meaningful time exploring who these women were—not simply what happened to them. Katherine, Aimee and Vanessa discuss the staggering scale of the missing and unidentified persons crisis, why some cases receive far more attention than others, and how race, gender, sexuality, poverty and public perception can influence who is considered worthy of media coverage. They also explore the importance of placing victims—not offenders—at the centre of true-crime storytelling. Aimee shares a powerful exercise she uses with college students: asking them to list the names of every serial killer they can remember, followed by the names of their victims. The difference is immediate and uncomfortable. This conversation is ultimately about restoring humanity. Behind every statistic is a person with relationships, memories, dreams and people who may still be searching for them. How one unidentified teenager inspired Aimee's poetry collection Doe The making of the documentary She Why Aimee and Vanessa created the She Goes by Jane podcast How quickly someone can disappear from their everyday life The overwhelming number of missing and unidentified people Why certain cases receive widespread coverage while others are ignored The effect of race, gender, sexuality and social status on media attention Remembering victims' names rather than glorifying perpetrators The responsibility of true-crime creators to preserve victims' humanity How individual stories reveal the scale of a much larger crisis Listen to She Goes by Jane on all major podcast platforms. To find the documentary She, search for Aimee Baker and the film title on Apple, Amazon and other streaming platforms. Doe by Aimee Baker Women Who Talk to the Dead by Katherine Schweit For bonus episodes, early access and additional content, join us on Patreon: Patreon.com/StopTheKilling Subscribe to Stop the Killing wherever you listen to podcasts, and please consider rating and reviewing the show—it helps more listeners discover these important conversations. WANT THE VIDEOS HEAD TO YOUTUBE @sarahferrismedia  And if you are wanting AD FREE | EARLY ACCESS | BONUS CONTENT  HIT THE BANNER ON APPLE PODCASTS TO SUBSCRIBE OR SUPPORT US: Patreon.com/stopthekilling  Message us on instagram :  @conmunitypodcast @stopthekillingstories And for all things Katherine Schweit: www.katherineschweit.com RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI  RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a CONmunity Podcast Production on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more: CONMUNITY PODCAST  KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY Watching Two Detectives  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Following the recent crossover between Stop the Killing and Watching Two Detectives, we're sharing the opening episode of Watching Two Detectives' award-winning first season. If Tomorrow Never Comes tells the story of the random murder of 45-year-old Michael Furlong in Smithfield, New South Wales, on June 3, 2002. Unlike Stop the Killing's interview-led format, Watching Two Detectives builds an entire season around one case, allowing the detectives who investigated it and the family who lived through it to tell the story in their own words. In this first episode, retired New South Wales detectives Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan are joined by retired Detective Inspector Clive Ainley, who led the original murder investigation. Michael's former wife and best friend, Colleen, and his son, Luke, introduce us to the man behind the case: a happy, endlessly sociable father, passionate Beatles fan, practical joker and natural inventor. On the final day of his life, Michael visited an electronics store looking for parts for a device he hoped could prevent drivers from falling asleep at the wheel. He was there because he wanted to save lives. Instead, a completely ordinary afternoon became the beginning of one of the most callous and unusual murder investigations the detectives had encountered. Michael and his brother were approached by a stranger who claimed to have damaged their car. Within moments, Michael had been fatally attacked and his brother was running for his life. The detectives arrived to find a devastating crime scene, an eyewitness in shock and almost no obvious connection between Michael and the unknown attacker. Somewhere beyond the police tape, a killer had disappeared into Sydney. This episode explores the first hours of the investigation, the crushing task of telling Michael's young sons that their father had been murdered and the last gift Michael gave Colleen: a CD containing the song If Tomorrow Never Comes. This is the opening chapter of a five-part true-crime investigation told through the detectives who worked the case and the family who have carried its consequences ever since. Listen to and follow Watching Two Detectives on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/watching-two-detectives/id1740792484 The remaining episodes of If Tomorrow Never Comes are waiting for you there, along with five complete seasons of victim-focused true crime, real police investigations and stories told by the people who lived them. This episode contains descriptions of murder, violence and traumatic bereavement. Listener discretion is advised. WANT THE VIDEOS HEAD TO YOUTUBE @sarahferrismedia  And if you are wanting AD FREE | EARLY ACCESS | BONUS CONTENT  HIT THE BANNER ON APPLE PODCASTS TO SUBSCRIBE OR SUPPORT US: Patreon.com/stopthekilling  Message us on instagram :  @conmunitypodcast @stopthekillingstories And for all things Katherine Schweit including where you can purchase her book STOP THE KILLING: How to end the mass shooting crisis head to: www.katherineschweit.com RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI  RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a CONmunity Podcast Production on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY Klooghless: The Long Con  Watching Two Detectives  Continue the full season Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Following the five-part crossover between Watching Two Detectives and Stop the Killing, we are sharing another standout conversation from the Stop the Killing archive. On April 20, 1999, two students arrived at Columbine High School intending to bomb the school. When their bombs failed, they opened fire. At the time, 12 students and one teacher were killed. In February 2025, Columbine survivor Anne Marie Hochhalter died from complications linked to the gunshot wounds she sustained during the attack. Her death was later ruled a homicide, bringing the recognised death toll to 13 students and one teacher — 14 victims in total. In this episode, Sarah Ferris and Katherine Schweit speak with Frank DeAngelis, the former principal of Columbine High School. Frank takes us back inside the school on the day of the attack and shares what it was like to lead a community through unimaginable violence, grief and trauma. But this conversation is about far more than the events of April 20. Frank explains how the impact of a school shooting continues long after the emergency vehicles, investigators and television cameras leave. The psychological wounds spread through students, teachers, families, first responders and the wider community — and for many, those wounds last a lifetime. He also reflects on the responsibility he felt toward the Columbine community, the promises he made to the families and why his role did not simply end when he retired as principal. This is a conversation about leadership, survivor guilt, recovery, school safety and the human consequences that cannot be measured by casualty numbers alone. It is also a reminder that behind every statistic is a person, a family and a life forever altered. Let's Be FrankFrank discusses school security, hardening targets and why safety measures can go too far when they begin to change schools from welcoming places into fortresses: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489?i=1000669832290 This bonus episode includes excerpts from a longer conversation with Frank that were not included in the original episode. Please follow Stop the Killing wherever you listen to podcasts for more conversations with Frank DeAngelis and more than 200 episodes examining mass shootings, school safety, active-shooter response, prevention, survival and the people left carrying the consequences. And stay following Watching Two Detectives for Season Six: Biddy: I'm So Shiny, I Can Twinkle Like a Star. The story of ten-year-old Bridget “Biddy” Porter, the warning signs before her murder and the family fighting to give their daughter back the name, story and voice that were taken from her. WANT THE VIDEOS HEAD TO YOUTUBE @sarahferrismedia  And if you are wanting AD FREE | EARLY ACCESS | BONUS CONTENT  HIT THE BANNER ON APPLE PODCASTS TO SUBSCRIBE OR SUPPORT US: Patreon.com/stopthekilling  Message us on instagram :  @conmunitypodcast @stopthekillingstories And for all things Katherine Schweit including where you can purchase her book STOP THE KILLING: How to end the mass shooting crisis head to: www.katherineschweit.com RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI  RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a CONmunity Podcast Production on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY Klooghless: The Long Con  Watching Two Detectives  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Following the recent crossover between Stop the Killing and Watching Two Detectives, we're sharing the opening episode of Watching Two Detectives' award-winning first season. If Tomorrow Never Comes tells the story of the random murder of 45-year-old Michael Furlong in Smithfield, New South Wales, on June 3, 2002. Unlike Stop the Killing's interview-led format, Watching Two Detectives builds an entire season around one case, allowing the detectives who investigated it and the family who lived through it to tell the story in their own words. In this first episode, retired New South Wales detectives Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan are joined by retired Detective Inspector Clive Ainsley, who led the original murder investigation. Michael's former wife and best friend, Colleen, and his son, Luke, introduce us to the man behind the case: a happy, endlessly sociable father, passionate Beatles fan, practical joker and natural inventor. On the final day of his life, Michael visited an electronics store looking for parts for a device he hoped could prevent drivers from falling asleep at the wheel. He was there because he wanted to save lives. Instead, a completely ordinary afternoon became the beginning of one of the most callous and unusual murder investigations the detectives had encountered. Michael and his brother were approached by a stranger who claimed to have damaged their car. Within moments, Michael had been fatally attacked and his brother was running for his life. The detectives arrived to find a devastating crime scene, an eyewitness in shock and almost no obvious connection between Michael and the unknown attacker. Somewhere beyond the police tape, a killer had disappeared into Sydney. This episode explores the first hours of the investigation, the crushing task of telling Michael's young sons that their father had been murdered and the last gift Michael gave Colleen: a CD containing the song If Tomorrow Never Comes. This is the opening chapter of a five-part true-crime investigation told through the detectives who worked the case and the family who have carried its consequences ever since. Listen to and follow Watching Two Detectives on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/watching-two-detectives/id1740792484 The remaining episodes of If Tomorrow Never Comes are waiting for you there, along with five complete seasons of victim-focused true crime, real police investigations and stories told by the people who lived them. This episode contains descriptions of murder, violence and traumatic bereavement. Listener discretion is advised. WANT THE VIDEOS HEAD TO YOUTUBE @sarahferrismedia  And if you are wanting AD FREE | EARLY ACCESS | BONUS CONTENT  HIT THE BANNER ON APPLE PODCASTS TO SUBSCRIBE OR SUPPORT US: Patreon.com/stopthekilling  Message us on instagram :  @conmunitypodcast @stopthekillingstories And for all things Katherine Schweit including where you can purchase her book STOP THE KILLING: How to end the mass shooting crisis head to: www.katherineschweit.com RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI  RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a CONmunity Podcast Production on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY Klooghless: The Long Con  Watching Two Detectives Continue the full season Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Following our five-part crossover between Watching Two Detectives and Stop the Killing, we're sharing a specially selected episode from the Stop the Killing archive. On May 24, 2022, a gunman entered Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, killing 19 children and two teachers and injuring 17 others. This episode was recorded just two days after the Uvalde school shooting, while information was still emerging and before the full, deeply troubling picture of the police response became known. Sarah Ferris is joined by Katherine Schweit, former head of the FBI's Active Shooter Program, to examine what was understood in those first 48 hours. They discuss the gunman's movements before the attack, his social-media activity, warning behaviours, access to firearms, the early questions surrounding school security and the initial reports of a lengthy delay before officers entered the classroom. Katherine also challenges some of the misinformation and conspiracy theories that appeared almost immediately after the shooting and explains how to identify reliable information during a rapidly unfolding investigation. The conversation explores why blaming mass shootings solely on mental illness is both misleading and unsupported by research, the difference between mental illness and urgent emotional distress, and the importance of recognising concerning behaviour before violence occurs. Because this episode captures the immediate aftermath, some early information discussed was later corrected or clarified. As official investigations progressed, Stop the Killing returned to Uvalde several times to examine the police response, command failures, active-shooter protocols and the legal questions surrounding accountability. Uvalde, Texas — Robb Elementary School MassacreThe original episode recorded immediately after the shooting:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489?i=1000564101644 Bonus 4: Uvalde UpdateKatherine examines the emerging timeline, the delay in confronting the shooter and the question of who was in command:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489?i=1000567936043 The Uvalde Shooting — A Comprehensive AnalysisA detailed reconstruction based on the US Department of Justice Critical Incident Review, including the 77-minute delay and systemic failures in leadership, communication and command:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489?i=1000746309846 Uvalde Trial Verdict: What the Decision Really MeansKatherine explains the legal outcome, what the verdict established and why criminal, civil and command accountability are not the same:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489?i=1000746304659 This episode is being shared on the Watching Two Detectives feed to give listeners a taste of the more than 200 episodes available from Stop the Killing. Please follow Stop the Killing wherever you listen to podcasts for more expert-led conversations about mass shootings, active-shooter response, prevention, survival and the human impact left behind. Next week on Watching Two Detectives, we'll share a powerful conversation with Frank DeAngelis, former principal of Columbine High School, about April 20, 1999, the attack's aftermath and the psychological scars carried by the Columbine community decades later. Continue the Uvalde deep dive WANT THE VIDEOS HEAD TO YOUTUBE @sarahferrismedia  And if you are wanting AD FREE | EARLY ACCESS | BONUS CONTENT  HIT THE BANNER ON APPLE PODCASTS TO SUBSCRIBE OR SUPPORT US: Patreon.com/stopthekilling  Message us on instagram :  @conmunitypodcast @stopthekillingstories And for all things Katherine Schweit including where you can purchase her book STOP THE KILLING: How to end the mass shooting crisis head to: www.katherineschweit.com RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI  RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a CONmunity Podcast Production on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY Klooghless: The Long Con  Watching Two Detectives  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the fifth and final episode of this special crossover between Stop the Killing and Watching Two Detectives, former head of the FBI's Active Shooter Program Katherine Schweit joins retired New South Wales detectives Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan one last time. The conversation begins with the information we still do not know about the Bondi Beach mass shooting — and why pending court proceedings, privacy laws and suppression orders can limit what is released to the public. Katherine, Scott and Peter examine the growing pressure for instant answers after major crimes, the spread of conspiracy theories and the new challenge facing investigators: artificial intelligence making it increasingly difficult to know whether video, images and evidence shared online are real. They also reflect on the extraordinary courage shown during the attack. Bondi lifesavers ran towards danger with first-aid kits while shots were still being fired. Ordinary people protected strangers, carried the injured and made decisions in seconds that may have saved lives. But what about those who freeze? Katherine explains why fight, flight and freeze are all normal human responses — and why nobody can truly know how they will react until they are placed in that situation. Her advice is clear: your first responsibility is to survive and return home to the people who love you. The episode then turns to the personal mission behind both podcasts. Katherine reflects on leaving the FBI but never leaving the work behind, and on how Stop the Killing restored some of her faith in humanity by creating a community of listeners who want answers, solutions and practical ways to make their communities safer. Scott and Peter explore the emotional toll of law enforcement, the coping mechanisms officers develop and why bringing humanity back into these conversations matters. This final episode also considers how victims should be spoken about. Behind every statistic is a person, a family and a life permanently changed. This is the final chapter of the five-part Stop the Killing x Watching Two Detectives crossover — a series about the Bondi Beach mass shooting, police response, misinformation, courage, survival and prevention. Because this is more than true crime. It is a mission. Over the next few weeks, both podcast feeds will continue the crossover. Watching Two Detectives will feature selected episodes from the more than 200 episodes of Stop the Killing, while Stop the Killing will share the first two episodes of the award-winning first season of Watching Two Detectives. Follow both podcasts to hear more powerful, victim-focused stories and expert conversations designed to inform, challenge and help keep people safer. WANT THE VIDEOS HEAD TO YOUTUBE @sarahferrismedia  And if you are wanting AD FREE | EARLY ACCESS | BONUS CONTENT  HIT THE BANNER ON APPLE PODCASTS TO SUBSCRIBE OR SUPPORT US: Patreon.com/stopthekilling  Message us on instagram :  @conmunitypodcast @stopthekillingstories And for all things Katherine Schweit including where you can purchase her book STOP THE KILLING: How to end the mass shooting crisis head to: www.katherineschweit.com RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI  RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a CONmunity Podcast Production on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY Klooghless: The Long Con  Watching Two Detectives  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the fifth and final episode of this special crossover between Stop the Killing and Watching Two Detectives, former head of the FBI's Active Shooter Program Katherine Schweit joins retired New South Wales detectives Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan one last time. The conversation begins with the information we still do not know about the Bondi Beach mass shooting — and why pending court proceedings, privacy laws and suppression orders can limit what is released to the public. Katherine, Scott and Peter examine the growing pressure for instant answers after major crimes, the spread of conspiracy theories and the new challenge facing investigators: artificial intelligence making it increasingly difficult to know whether video, images and evidence shared online are real. They also reflect on the extraordinary courage shown during the attack. Bondi lifesavers ran towards danger with first-aid kits while shots were still being fired. Ordinary people protected strangers, carried the injured and made decisions in seconds that may have saved lives. But what about those who freeze? Katherine explains why fight, flight and freeze are all normal human responses — and why nobody can truly know how they will react until they are placed in that situation. Her advice is clear: your first responsibility is to survive and return home to the people who love you. The episode then turns to the personal mission behind both podcasts. Katherine reflects on leaving the FBI but never leaving the work behind, and on how Stop the Killing restored some of her faith in humanity by creating a community of listeners who want answers, solutions and practical ways to make their communities safer. Scott and Peter explore the emotional toll of law enforcement, the coping mechanisms officers develop and why bringing humanity back into these conversations matters. This final episode also considers how victims should be spoken about. Behind every statistic is a person, a family and a life permanently changed. This is the final chapter of the five-part Stop the Killing x Watching Two Detectives crossover — a series about the Bondi Beach mass shooting, police response, misinformation, courage, survival and prevention. Because this is more than true crime. It is a mission. Over the next few weeks, both podcast feeds will continue the crossover. Watching Two Detectives will feature selected episodes from the more than 200 episodes of Stop the Killing, while Stop the Killing will share the first two episodes of the award-winning first season of Watching Two Detectives. Follow both podcasts to hear more powerful, victim-focused stories and expert conversations designed to inform, challenge and help keep people safer. WANT THE VIDEOS HEAD TO YOUTUBE @sarahferrismedia  And if you are wanting AD FREE | EARLY ACCESS | BONUS CONTENT  HIT THE BANNER ON APPLE PODCASTS TO SUBSCRIBE OR SUPPORT US: Patreon.com/stopthekilling  Message us on instagram :  @conmunitypodcast @stopthekillingstories And for all things Katherine Schweit including where you can purchase her book STOP THE KILLING: How to end the mass shooting crisis head to: www.katherineschweit.com RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI  RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a CONmunity Podcast Production on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY Klooghless: The Long Con  Watching Two Detectives  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In Part Four of this special crossover between Stop the Killing and Watching Two Detectives, former head of the FBI's Active Shooter Program Katherine Schweit continues her conversation with retired New South Wales detectives Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan. Together, they examine the police response to the Bondi Beach terror attack, the speed at which a mass shooting can unfold, and the impossible decisions officers must make in the first few minutes of an active-shooter incident. The conversation explores the difference between directed terrorism, inspired terrorism and independently motivated attackers, as well as the danger of extremist propaganda and livestreamed violence inspiring future attacks. Scott and Peter also address the misinformation that spread online in the immediate aftermath of Bondi. Images of wounded officers taking cover were used to accuse them of cowardice, while a photograph of a female officer directing civilians away from danger was falsely framed as surrender. Katherine explains why social-media snapshots cannot show what an officer was seeing, what intelligence they had or what tactical decisions they were being forced to make. The episode then turns to the extraordinary actions of Detective Senior Constable Cesar Barraza, the plain-clothes detective who confronted attackers armed with long guns from approximately 40 to 45 metres away. Katherine, Scott and Peter break down the difficulty of making accurate handgun shots over that distance, under extreme pressure, with civilians and fellow officers still in danger. This is not Hollywood. Real officers have limited ammunition. Real decisions are made in seconds. And real lives were saved. This episode is Part Four of a five-part Stop the Killing x Watching Two Detectives crossover examining the Bondi Beach mass shooting, the police response, the human cost and the lessons that may help prevent future violence. This is not about politics. It is about facts, response and prevention. Follow both Stop the Killing and Watching Two Detectives so you do not miss the final episode in the series. WANT THE VIDEOS HEAD TO YOUTUBE @sarahferrismedia  And if you are wanting AD FREE | EARLY ACCESS | BONUS CONTENT  HIT THE BANNER ON APPLE PODCASTS TO SUBSCRIBE OR SUPPORT US: Patreon.com/stopthekilling  Message us on instagram :  @conmunitypodcast @stopthekillingstories And for all things Katherine Schweit including where you can purchase her book STOP THE KILLING: How to end the mass shooting crisis head to: www.katherineschweit.com RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI  RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a CONmunity Podcast Production on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY Klooghless: The Long Con  Watching Two Detectives  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In Part Four of this special crossover between Stop the Killing and Watching Two Detectives, former head of the FBI's Active Shooter Program Katherine Schweit continues her conversation with retired New South Wales detectives Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan. Together, they examine the police response to the Bondi Beach terror attack, the speed at which a mass shooting can unfold, and the impossible decisions officers must make in the first few minutes of an active-shooter incident. The conversation explores the difference between directed terrorism, inspired terrorism and independently motivated attackers, as well as the danger of extremist propaganda and livestreamed violence inspiring future attacks. Scott and Peter also address the misinformation that spread online in the immediate aftermath of Bondi. Images of wounded officers taking cover were used to accuse them of cowardice, while a photograph of a female officer directing civilians away from danger was falsely framed as surrender. Katherine explains why social-media snapshots cannot show what an officer was seeing, what intelligence they had or what tactical decisions they were being forced to make. The episode then turns to the extraordinary actions of Detective Senior Constable Cesar Barraza, the plain-clothes detective who confronted attackers armed with long guns from approximately 40 to 45 metres away. Katherine, Scott and Peter break down the difficulty of making accurate handgun shots over that distance, under extreme pressure, with civilians and fellow officers still in danger. This is not Hollywood. Real officers have limited ammunition. Real decisions are made in seconds. And real lives were saved. This episode is Part Four of a five-part Stop the Killing x Watching Two Detectives crossover examining the Bondi Beach mass shooting, the police response, the human cost and the lessons that may help prevent future violence. This is not about politics. It is about facts, response and prevention. Follow both Stop the Killing and Watching Two Detectives so you do not miss the final episode in the series. WANT THE VIDEOS HEAD TO YOUTUBE @sarahferrismedia  And if you are wanting AD FREE | EARLY ACCESS | BONUS CONTENT  HIT THE BANNER ON APPLE PODCASTS TO SUBSCRIBE OR SUPPORT US: Patreon.com/stopthekilling  Message us on instagram :  @conmunitypodcast @stopthekillingstories And for all things Katherine Schweit including where you can purchase her book STOP THE KILLING: How to end the mass shooting crisis head to: www.katherineschweit.com RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI  RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a CONmunity Podcast Production on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY Klooghless: The Long Con  Watching Two Detectives  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In Part Three of this special Stop the Killing x Watching Two Detectives crossover, Katherine Schweit is joined by retired NSW detectives Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan to examine the Bondi Beach mass shooting. This episode looks at the six-minute attack, the police response, the tactical realities of the scene, and the extraordinary bravery of civilians who intervened while others were still under fire. This is not a political discussion about the Israel-Palestine conflict. It is a factual look at one specific mass shooting incident, the motives and climate around it, and the lessons that may help prevent future attacks. Stop the Killing on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489 Watching Two Detectives on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/watching-two-detectives/id1740792484 Watching Two Detectives Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/wtd Stop the Killing Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/stopthekilling Listening on the Stop the Killing feed? Head over to Watching Two Detectives, subscribe and discover the four seasons waiting for you. Listening on Watching Two Detectives? Search for Stop the Killing, subscribe and explore more than 300 episodes examining mass shootings, prevention, survival and the people working to create meaningful change. Please follow both shows and leave a five-star review wherever you listen. Your support helps us continue producing these independent, expert-led conversations. Join us next week for Part Three: the Bondi Beach killings through the expert lenses of Katherine Schweit, Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan. This episode contains discussions of mass shootings, suicide, firearms, murder victims and human remains. Listener discretion is advised. This is a Sarah Ferris Media on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more Sarah Ferris Media productions: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY LISTEN AND SUBSCRIBEGET EARLY ACCESS AND SUPPORT THE PODCASTS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In Part Three of this special Stop the Killing x Watching Two Detectives crossover, Katherine Schweit is joined by retired NSW detectives Scott Rogan and Peter Hogan to examine the Bondi Beach mass shooting. This episode looks at the six-minute attack, the police response, the tactical realities of the scene, and the extraordinary bravery of civilians who intervened while others were still under fire. This is not a political discussion about the Israel-Palestine conflict. It is a factual look at one specific mass shooting incident, the motives and climate around it, and the lessons that may help prevent future attacks. Stop the Killing on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489 Watching Two Detectives on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/watching-two-detectives/id1740792484 Watching Two Detectives Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/wtd Stop the Killing Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/stopthekilling Listening on the Stop the Killing feed? Head over to Watching Two Detectives, subscribe and discover the four seasons waiting for you. Listening on Watching Two Detectives? Search for Stop the Killing, subscribe and explore more than 300 episodes examining mass shootings, prevention, survival and the people working to create meaningful change. Please follow both shows and leave a five-star review wherever you listen. Your support helps us continue producing these independent, expert-led conversations. Join us next week for Part Three: the Bondi Beach killings through the expert lenses of Katherine Schweit, Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan. This episode contains discussions of mass shootings, suicide, firearms, murder victims and human remains. Listener discretion is advised. This is a Sarah Ferris Media on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more Sarah Ferris Media productions: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY LISTEN AND SUBSCRIBE GET EARLY ACCESS AND SUPPORT THE PODCASTS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What happens when three experienced investigators from opposite sides of the world sit down to examine how police respond to an active shooter? In this special crossover between Stop the Killing and Watching Two Detectives, former FBI Special Agent Katherine Schweit joins retired New South Wales detectives Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan for an expert examination of the lessons that have reshaped mass-shooting prevention, preparation and police response. Katherine was working on national security and counterterrorism cases when the murder of 20 children and six educators at Sandy Hook Elementary School changed the direction of her career. Following the shooting, she was appointed to the White House team tasked with developing a coordinated national response to mass shootings and became the architect of the FBI's Active Shooter Program. In Part One, Katherine explains how the devastating events at Sandy Hook helped accelerate a fundamental change in policing: moving away from the traditional strategy of “contain, negotiate and wait” towards the immediate deployment of officers to confront and stop an active threat. Peter and Scott reveal how those lessons travelled across the world and influenced Australian policing. They discuss the introduction of New South Wales Police's Active Armed Offender training, the impact of the 2014 Lindt Café siege and the confronting reality of preparing ordinary frontline officers to run towards attackers armed with military-style weapons. Together, they explore: Why active-shooter incidents can be over within minutes The extraordinary risks faced by the first officers entering the scene Why an active shooter and a mass shooting are not always the same thing Why workplaces—not schools—account for many active-shooter attacks in the United States The challenges of negotiating with attackers driven by extremist or ideological motives Why warning signs must be recognised and reported before violence begins How information shared by one student helped prevent a planned school shooting Why measuring the attacks that never happened is so important Katherine also shares the remarkable story of the message that reminded her why Stop the Killing must continue: a school vice principal who credited the podcast with helping her team recognise the warning signs and prevent a planned attack. This conversation lays the groundwork for the next part of the series, when Katherine, Peter and Scott turn their attention to the December 14, 2025 Bondi Beach terrorist attack, examining the actions of the attackers, civilians and responding officers through their combined FBI and Australian policing experience. The attack targeted a Hanukkah celebration and killed 15 people.  This is not simply a conversation about what happened. It is a conversation about what has been learned, what has changed—and what still needs to change to stop the next attack. Listen now to Part One of this special multi-part crossover. Stop the Killing on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489 Watching Two Detectives on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/watching-two-detectives/id1740792484 Watching Two Detectives Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/wtd Stop the Killing Patreon:GUNS, SUICIDE AND THE WOMEN WHO TALK TO THE DEAD — PART TWO In Part Two of this special crossover between Stop the Killing and Watching Two Detectives, former FBI Special Agent Katherine Schweit continues her conversation with retired New South Wales detectives Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan. Before the team turns its attention to the Bondi Beach killings, they take a deeper look at the realities that sit behind conversations about firearms, mass violence and public safety. Katherine explains why she wrote Stop the Killing: A Simple Guide to the Second Amendment and why productive conversations about guns in the United States have become so difficult. With hundreds of millions of firearms already in circulation, she argues that prevention has to begin with the laws, risks and realities that currently exist—not the world people wish existed. The conversation also examines one of the most overlooked parts of America's firearms crisis: suicide. Katherine explains that the majority of firearm deaths in the United States are self-inflicted, raising difficult questions about access to weapons during moments of crisis and how firearms can turn a temporary period of distress into an irreversible outcome. Peter, Scott and Katherine discuss: Why active-shooter attacks and other forms of mass violence are not directly comparable How the weapon used can dramatically change the number of casualties The difference between bolt-action, semi-automatic and automatic firearms Why Australia's firearms restrictions mattered during the Bondi Beach attack How the elevated firing position at Bondi could have produced an even greater loss of life if different weapons had been available What the 2017 Las Vegas mass shooting demonstrates about firing speed, distance and crowd density Why statistics must be properly explained rather than used to support a predetermined argument The conversation then moves from mass-shooting prevention to another extraordinary investigation from Katherine's career. Katherine introduces her book Women Who Talk to the Dead, which follows Detroit detective Shannon Jones and FBI forensic specialist Leslie Larsen as they uncover a connection between missing-person investigations and unidentified murder victims buried in paupers' graves. What begins with one detective searching through decades-old paper files develops into the largest exhumation of murder victims ever undertaken by the FBI. Katherine reveals how a team of female detectives, prosecutors, forensic anthropologists and investigators volunteered their expertise and time to recover remains, obtain DNA and finally return names to people who had been unidentified for decades. Peter also reflects on his own experience working alongside a forensic anthropologist during the painstaking exhumation of a murder victim—and why a line in a news report stating that investigators “exhumed the body and obtained DNA” can never capture the time, care and expertise that work truly requires. This episode is about the human realities hidden behind the statistics: the people lost to firearms, the investigators who carry the responsibility of finding answers and the extraordinary work required to give unidentified victims their names back. And after two episodes of expert discussion, the stage is now set. In Part Three, Katherine Schweit, Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan turn their combined FBI and New South Wales policing experience towards the Bondi Beach killings and examine the events of that tragic day. Stop the Killing on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489 Watching Two Detectives on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/watching-two-detectives/id1740792484 Watching Two Detectives Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/wtd Stop the Killing Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/stopthekilling Listening on the Stop the Killing feed? Head over to Watching Two Detectives, subscribe and discover the four seasons waiting for you. Listening on Watching Two Detectives? Search for Stop the Killing, subscribe and explore more than 300 episodes examining mass shootings, prevention, survival and the people working to create meaningful change. Please follow both shows and leave a five-star review wherever you listen. Your support helps us continue producing these independent, expert-led conversations. Join us next week for Part Three: the Bondi Beach killings through the expert lenses of Katherine Schweit, Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan. This episode contains discussions of mass shootings, suicide, firearms, murder victims and human remains. Listener discretion is advised. This is a Sarah Ferris Media on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more Sarah Ferris Media productions: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY LISTEN AND SUBSCRIBE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What happens when three experienced investigators from opposite sides of the world sit down to examine how police respond to an active shooter? In this special crossover between Stop the Killing and Watching Two Detectives, former FBI Special Agent Katherine Schweit joins retired New South Wales detectives Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan for an expert examination of the lessons that have reshaped mass-shooting prevention, preparation and police response. Katherine was working on national security and counterterrorism cases when the murder of 20 children and six educators at Sandy Hook Elementary School changed the direction of her career. Following the shooting, she was appointed to the White House team tasked with developing a coordinated national response to mass shootings and became the architect of the FBI's Active Shooter Program. In Part One, Katherine explains how the devastating events at Sandy Hook helped accelerate a fundamental change in policing: moving away from the traditional strategy of “contain, negotiate and wait” towards the immediate deployment of officers to confront and stop an active threat. Peter and Scott reveal how those lessons travelled across the world and influenced Australian policing. They discuss the introduction of New South Wales Police's Active Armed Offender training, the impact of the 2014 Lindt Café siege and the confronting reality of preparing ordinary frontline officers to run towards attackers armed with military-style weapons. Together, they explore: Why active-shooter incidents can be over within minutes The extraordinary risks faced by the first officers entering the scene Why an active shooter and a mass shooting are not always the same thing Why workplaces—not schools—account for many active-shooter attacks in the United States The challenges of negotiating with attackers driven by extremist or ideological motives Why warning signs must be recognised and reported before violence begins How information shared by one student helped prevent a planned school shooting Why measuring the attacks that never happened is so important Katherine also shares the remarkable story of the message that reminded her why Stop the Killing must continue: a school vice principal who credited the podcast with helping her team recognise the warning signs and prevent a planned attack. This conversation lays the groundwork for the next part of the series, when Katherine, Peter and Scott turn their attention to the December 14, 2025 Bondi Beach terrorist attack, examining the actions of the attackers, civilians and responding officers through their combined FBI and Australian policing experience. The attack targeted a Hanukkah celebration and killed 15 people.  This is not simply a conversation about what happened. It is a conversation about what has been learned, what has changed—and what still needs to change to stop the next attack. Listen now to Part One of this special multi-part crossover. Stop the Killing on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489 Watching Two Detectives on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/watching-two-detectives/id1740792484 Watching Two Detectives Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/wtd Stop the Killing Patreon:GUNS, SUICIDE AND THE WOMEN WHO TALK TO THE DEAD — PART TWO In Part Two of this special crossover between Stop the Killing and Watching Two Detectives, former FBI Special Agent Katherine Schweit continues her conversation with retired New South Wales detectives Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan. Before the team turns its attention to the Bondi Beach killings, they take a deeper look at the realities that sit behind conversations about firearms, mass violence and public safety. Katherine explains why she wrote Stop the Killing: A Simple Guide to the Second Amendment and why productive conversations about guns in the United States have become so difficult. With hundreds of millions of firearms already in circulation, she argues that prevention has to begin with the laws, risks and realities that currently exist—not the world people wish existed. The conversation also examines one of the most overlooked parts of America's firearms crisis: suicide. Katherine explains that the majority of firearm deaths in the United States are self-inflicted, raising difficult questions about access to weapons during moments of crisis and how firearms can turn a temporary period of distress into an irreversible outcome. Peter, Scott and Katherine discuss: Why active-shooter attacks and other forms of mass violence are not directly comparable How the weapon used can dramatically change the number of casualties The difference between bolt-action, semi-automatic and automatic firearms Why Australia's firearms restrictions mattered during the Bondi Beach attack How the elevated firing position at Bondi could have produced an even greater loss of life if different weapons had been available What the 2017 Las Vegas mass shooting demonstrates about firing speed, distance and crowd density Why statistics must be properly explained rather than used to support a predetermined argument The conversation then moves from mass-shooting prevention to another extraordinary investigation from Katherine's career. Katherine introduces her book Women Who Talk to the Dead, which follows Detroit detective Shannon Jones and FBI forensic specialist Leslie Larsen as they uncover a connection between missing-person investigations and unidentified murder victims buried in paupers' graves. What begins with one detective searching through decades-old paper files develops into the largest exhumation of murder victims ever undertaken by the FBI. Katherine reveals how a team of female detectives, prosecutors, forensic anthropologists and investigators volunteered their expertise and time to recover remains, obtain DNA and finally return names to people who had been unidentified for decades. Peter also reflects on his own experience working alongside a forensic anthropologist during the painstaking exhumation of a murder victim—and why a line in a news report stating that investigators “exhumed the body and obtained DNA” can never capture the time, care and expertise that work truly requires. This episode is about the human realities hidden behind the statistics: the people lost to firearms, the investigators who carry the responsibility of finding answers and the extraordinary work required to give unidentified victims their names back. And after two episodes of expert discussion, the stage is now set. In Part Three, Katherine Schweit, Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan turn their combined FBI and New South Wales policing experience towards the Bondi Beach killings and examine the events of that tragic day. Stop the Killing on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489 Watching Two Detectives on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/watching-two-detectives/id1740792484 Watching Two Detectives Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/wtd Stop the Killing Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/stopthekilling Listening on the Stop the Killing feed? Head over to Watching Two Detectives, subscribe and discover the four seasons waiting for you. Listening on Watching Two Detectives? Search for Stop the Killing, subscribe and explore more than 300 episodes examining mass shootings, prevention, survival and the people working to create meaningful change. Please follow both shows and leave a five-star review wherever you listen. Your support helps us continue producing these independent, expert-led conversations. Join us next week for Part Three: the Bondi Beach killings through the expert lenses of Katherine Schweit, Peter Hogan and Scott Rogan. This episode contains discussions of mass shootings, suicide, firearms, murder victims and human remains. Listener discretion is advised. This is a Sarah Ferris Media on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more Sarah Ferris Media productions: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY LISTEN AND SUBSCRIBE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this Stop the Killing update, Katherine Schweit revisits the Richneck Elementary School shooting in Newport News, Virginia — the case where a six-year-old student shot his teacher, Abigail Zwerner, in January 2023. This episode focuses on the latest legal development: the dismissal of criminal charges against former assistant principal Ebony Parker, who had been accused of felony child abuse and endangerment after warnings were allegedly raised before the shooting. Katherine explains what happened in court, why the judge dismissed the charges, and why this case continues to raise difficult questions about school shooting prevention, gun safety, child access to firearms, school accountability, and legal responsibility. When a six-year-old cannot be held criminally responsible, who can be? The parent? The school? The administrator? The system? For more detail on the original incident, listen to our earlier episode:Richneck Elementary School – Stop the Killinghttps://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/richneck-elementary-school/id1585146489?i=1000610558667 You can also listen to our follow-up episode on the case here:https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/stop-the-killing/id1585146489?i=1000621142440 In this episode:Katherine discusses the Richneck Elementary shooting, the criminal case against Ebony Parker, the role of school warnings, the mother's conviction for child neglect, and the broader accountability crisis surrounding children, firearms, and school safety. Keywords: Richneck Elementary School shooting, Newport News school shooting, Abigail Zwerner, six-year-old shooter, Ebony Parker, school shooting prevention, gun safety, child access to guns, school accountability, Stop the Killing podcast, Katherine Schweit. SUPPORTING OUR SPONSORS, SUPPORTS THE PODCAST CRIMECON UK TICKETS HERE CRIMECON US TICKETS HERE DON'T forget to use DISCOUNT CODE “FERRIS”  RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI  RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a Sarah Ferris Media on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more Sarah Ferris Media productions: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In Part Two of this powerful conversation, Katherine Schweit continues her discussion with Whitney Austin — survivor of the 2018 Cincinnati mass shooting and founder of Whitney Strong. In Part One, Whitney shared the moment she was shot 12 times in less than a minute while walking into her workplace. In this episode, we pick up where that story left off. Whitney takes us through the long road to recovery — multiple surgeries, months of physical and mental rehabilitation, and the determination it took to rebuild her life. But survival was only the beginning. Whitney shares how that experience became the catalyst for action — leading her to create Whitney Strong, an organisation focused on finding common ground to reduce gun violence through practical, data-driven solutions. This episode explores: The physical and mental recovery after surviving a mass shooting Turning trauma into purpose The creation and mission of Whitney Strong Community-based solutions to prevent gun violence The reality of pushing for change — and why persistence matters From hands-on safety training to advocating for targeted legislation, Whitney explains how small, practical actions can come together to save lives. This is a conversation about what comes after survival — and how one person can turn tragedy into impact. Learn more about Whitney's work:Whitney Strong WANT THE VIDEOS HEAD TO YOUTUBE @sarahferrismedia  And if you are wanting AD FREE | EARLY ACCESS | BONUS CONTENT  HIT THE BANNER ON APPLE PODCASTS TO SUBSCRIBE OR SUPPORT US: Patreon.com/stopthekilling  Message us on instagram :  @conmunitypodcast @stopthekillingstories And for all things Katherine Schweit including where you can purchase her book STOP THE KILLING: How to end the mass shooting crisis head to: www.katherineschweit.com RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI  RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a CONmunity Podcast Production on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY Klooghless: The Long Con  Watching Two Detectives  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this powerful first part of a two-part conversation, Katherine Schweit speaks with Whitney Austin, survivor of the 2018 Cincinnati mass shooting and founder of Whitney Strong. Whitney shares the ordinary morning that became life-changing: driving from Kentucky to Cincinnati for work, walking into her office building while on a conference call, and suddenly finding herself caught in an active shooter situation. Shot 12 times, Whitney recalls the terrifying moments inside the revolving door, the clarity that helped her survive, the first responders who reached her, and the phone call to her husband that no family should ever receive. This episode explores survival, situational awareness, trauma, and the ripple effects of violence — not only on those physically injured, but on families, workplaces, first responders, and entire communities. In Part Two, Katherine and Whitney discuss recovery, Whitney Strong, and how Whitney turned unimaginable trauma into action. Learn more about Whitney's work:Whitney Strong In this episode: Whitney Austin's experience during the 2018 Cincinnati shooting Why situational awareness matters The role of first responders in active shooter events The impact of gun violence beyond the immediate victims What it means to survive — and begin again Part Two is out next week. For early access, ad-free episodes, and to support the work we do, subscribe on Apple Podcasts or visit:patreon.com/stopthekilling WANT THE VIDEOS HEAD TO YOUTUBE @sarahferrismedia  And if you are wanting AD FREE | EARLY ACCESS | BONUS CONTENT  HIT THE BANNER ON APPLE PODCASTS TO SUBSCRIBE OR SUPPORT US: Patreon.com/stopthekilling  Message us on instagram :  @conmunitypodcast @stopthekillingstories And for all things Katherine Schweit including where you can purchase her book STOP THE KILLING: How to end the mass shooting crisis head to: www.katherineschweit.com RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI  RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a CONmunity Podcast Production on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY Klooghless: The Long Con  Watching Two Detectives  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In Part 2 of this conversation, former FBI agent Katherine Schweit continues her deep dive with experts from Integras Intelligence — unpacking one of the most misunderstood and frustrating questions in the aftermath of targeted violence. Joining Katherine are: Michael Ginch, Manager, Investigations Forhad Razzaque, President Why many perpetrators have no obvious warning signs — and why that's increasing The uncomfortable truth: people close to offenders are often shocked by what happens  Why “being on the radar” can mean almost anything — from minor past incidents to vague concerns The legal reality: why law enforcement can't act without threshold evidence How free speech and civil liberties limit intervention — even when something feels wrong Why monitoring the internet is not as simple as it sounds (and why it's impossible to catch everything) The problem of false positives — and why context matters more than keywords One of the most striking takeaways from this episode:

In the aftermath of a shooting, we hear the same haunting phrase: “He was on the radar.” But what does that actually mean? In this episode of Stop the Killing, former FBI agent Katherine Schweit sits down with experts from Integras Intelligence to unpack the reality behind background checks, threat assessment, and the limits of what can — and can't — be known before tragedy strikes. Joining Katherine are: Michael Ginch, Manager, Investigations Forhad Razzaque, President Together, they take you inside the world most people never see — the one behind the headlines. What a background check actually is — and why it's not just a simple report The difference between public perception and real investigative capability Why not all information can legally be collected, shared, or acted upon The concept of “permissible purpose” — and how it limits investigations Why companies often run only basic checks (and what gets missed as a result) The tension between speed, cost, and depth when hiring or assessing risk How investigators assess potential threats using context — not just data As Katherine and her guests explain, background checks are not a crystal ball — they're a snapshot in time, shaped by legal boundaries, resources, and human judgement.  Just because someone was “on the radar”…doesn't mean there was enough evidence — or legal authority — to act. And that's where the real complexity begins. In Part 2, Katherine digs deeper into the question everyone asks after an attack:

EPISODE DROP: The Badmiral (CONmunity – Season 2, Episode 1)“Hoisting the Sails of Suspicion” This week on Stop the Killing, we're briefly switching gears to bring you something a little different… and trust me, it's worth it. It started, as these things often do, with a message. A listener reaches out with a story about a man calling himself an Admiral — a leader of a global disaster response organisation promising million-dollar budgets, elite teams, and international backing. But as I start pulling on that thread… the story begins to unravel. What follows is a world of: Fake titles and real military figures Promises of $250,000 salaries that never materialise A mysterious organisation called IntSAR And one question that refuses to go away… Is this the beginning of something legitimate — or the early signs of a global con? This is Episode One of The Badmiral — where we set sail into a story that quickly becomes stranger than fiction. You can listen to the rest of The Badmiral and explore CONmunity here:

Thanks to Imron Corporation for hosting this live episode of Stop the Killing at SoFi Stadium in Los Angeles, recorded in January 2025. What do a vehicle attack in New Orleans…a car explosion in Las Vegas…and a targeted assassination in New York… all have in common? More than you think. In this special live episode — recorded on the field at SoFi Stadium in January 2025 — Sarah and Katherine break down three recent, high-profile cases and reveal the patterns that link them. Because while the headlines call them different things — terrorism, explosion, assassination — the reality is much simpler, and much more important: They are all acts of targeted violence. And if we understand the patterns, we have a chance to stop them. A vehicle used as a weapon.14 people killed. Dozens injured. How the attacker carried out reconnaissance beforehand Why temporary security gaps (like removed bollards) mattered The warning signs that were there before the attack How planning and opportunity collided in real time A shocking incident outside a Trump hotel just hours later. Why this was not what it first appeared to be The role of mental health and personal crisis How quickly speculation can spiral into misinformation The difference between targeted violence and self-directed harm A calculated, premeditated killing in broad daylight. 10 days of surveillance before the attack The escape plan — and where it unraveled How digital footprints helped track the suspect The disturbing rise of online glorification after violent acts These incidents may look different — but the behaviour patterns are the same Targeted violence is almost always planned, not spontaneous The warning signs are there — but often missed or dismissed Prevention starts with recognising changes in behaviour The public plays a critical role, often without realising it Across all three cases, one theme stands out: Behavioural change. Sudden isolation Dropping off the radar Changes in routine, work, or communication Fixation on a person, place, or grievance These are the signals that matter — whether someone is heading toward harming others or themselves. Most active attacks are over in minutes The opportunity to stop them is before they begin Prevention is always a shared responsibility This is not about fear.It is about awareness. This episode was recorded live in January 2025 during the Imron Safety and Security Conference in Los Angeles, surrounded by experts, practitioners, and innovators working on real-world solutions. We had a brilliant experience with the team at Imron Corporation — from the staff to the exhibitors, the conversations, and the technology on show. If you are serious about understanding where safety and security is heading, these summits are genuinely worth your time. They bring together industry leaders, law enforcement, and cutting-edge technology in a way that sparks real collaboration. Find out more about upcoming summits here:https://imron.com/pages/imron-security-and-safety-summit-detroit Follow Stop the Killing on Apple or Spotify Share this episode with someone who needs to hear it Leave a review to help more people find the show Different headlines.Same patterns. And the more we understand them, the better chance we have of stopping the next one. WANT THE VIDEOS HEAD TO YOUTUBE @sarahferrismedia  And if you are wanting AD FREE | EARLY ACCESS | BONUS CONTENT  HIT THE BANNER ON APPLE PODCASTS TO SUBSCRIBE OR SUPPORT US: Patreon.com/stopthekilling  Message us on instagram :  @conmunitypodcast @stopthekillingstories And for all things Katherine Schweit including where you can purchase her book STOP THE KILLING: How to end the mass shooting crisis head to: www.katherineschweit.com RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI  RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a CONmunity Podcast Production on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is a reprised episode from Season 4  SURVIVING PARKLAND  Join us for a special episode of Stop the Killing podcast as we welcome Elizabeth Stout, a survivor of the Parkland High School shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas. Elizabeth is also the host of the new podcast "Trigger Therapy," where she shares her experiences and insights on surviving a school shooting. In this episode, Elizabeth lays bare what it really is like to "survive" a school shooting, including the struggles with survivor's guilt, PTSD, and much more. Key Points to Know About the Episode: Elizabeth Stout: Elizabeth was a student in one of the targeted classrooms during the Parkland shooting. She has since become an advocate for mental health and gun control, and she shares her story and insights on her new podcast "Trigger Therapy." Surviving a School Shooting: Elizabeth discusses the emotional and psychological toll of surviving a school shooting, including the challenges of coping with trauma, guilt, and grief. Trigger Therapy: Elizabeth's podcast "Trigger Therapy" offers a platform for survivors of trauma to share their stories and connect with others who have experienced similar struggles. The podcast is available on Apple Podcasts, and we encourage our listeners to check it out. WANT THE VIDEOS HEAD TO YOUTUBE @sarahferrismedia  And if you are wanting AD FREE | EARLY ACCESS | BONUS CONTENT  HIT THE BANNER ON APPLE PODCASTS TO SUBSCRIBE OR SUPPORT US: Patreon.com/stopthekilling  Send us your Listener Questions for our Tuesday episodes  Message us on instagram :  @conmunitypodcast @stopthekillingstories And for all things Katherine Schweit including where you can purchase her book STOP THE KILLING: How to end the mass shooting crisis head to: www.katherineschweit.com SUPPORTING OUR SPONSORS, SUPPORTS THE PODCAST CRIMECON UK TICKETS HERE CRIMECON US TICKETS HERE DON'T forget to use DISCOUNT CODE “FERRIS”  BLENDJET Check out BlendJet: The original portable blender coupon: stk12 (case sensitive) custom URL: https://zen.ai/stk12   Go to blendjet.com and to save 12% use my special link, and the discount will be applied at checkout https://zen.ai/stk12 RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI  RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a CONmunity Podcast Production on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What if preventing school shootings has far less to do with reacting… and everything to do with what happens long before? In this powerful episode of Stop the Killing, Katherine Schweit is joined by leading researchers from the University of Michigan Institute for Firearm Injury Prevention and the National Center for School Safety to unpack what the data actually tells us about stopping violence before it starts. This isn't about headlines.This is about evidence, prevention, and what really works. Dr. Brianna Scott — Postdoctoral Research Fellow, University of Michigan Dr. Elyse Thulin — Research Assistant Professor, University of Michigan Dr. Sarah M. Stilwell — Researcher in Educational Psychology, University of Michigan Why school shootings are the end of a long chain of missed warning signs The role of anonymous reporting systems in preventing harm How school culture, belonging, and connection reduce violence risk The three critical environments: physical, social, and attentive Why most youth access to firearms comes from familiar homes And how early intervention can stop escalation before it becomes tragedy School shootings don't begin with a weapon.They begin with missed opportunities to intervene earlier. Here are the resources mentioned in this episode — all worth exploring: Youth Empowerment Solutions (YES) Program (free curriculum download):

What if there was a legal tool designed to stop a mass shooting before it happens? In this episode of Stop the Killing, former FBI executive Katherine Schweit sits down with leading researchers studying gun violence prevention to explain Extreme Risk Protection Orders (ERPOs) — often referred to as Red Flag Laws. These laws allow courts to temporarily restrict firearm access for people who are considered a risk to themselves or others. But how do they actually work? And can they help prevent tragedies like school shootings? Our guests from the University of Michigan Institute for Firearm Injury Prevention and the National Center for School Safety break down the research, the misconceptions, and the real-world impact of these laws. The conversation also explores why school safety goes far beyond metal detectors and lockdown drills, and why evidence shows that prevention must involve families, schools, communities, and early intervention strategies. If you've ever wondered whether mass shootings can actually be prevented — and what role communities can play — this episode provides crucial insight. Michael HoltzProgram Manager – Michigan Firearm Law Implementation ProgramUniversity of Michigan Institute for Firearm Injury Prevention Stephen Oliphant, PhDResearch InvestigatorUniversity of Michigan Institute for Firearm Injury Prevention Sarah StillwellResearch InvestigatorNational Center for School Safetyand the University of Michigan Institute for Firearm Injury Prevention What Extreme Risk Protection Orders (ERPOs) actually are Why ERPOs are often misunderstood as “gun confiscation laws” The research showing reductions in firearm suicides How ERPOs may help prevent mass shootings Why some states use these laws far more than others What the data says about school safety strategies Why anonymous reporting systems may be more effective than metal detectors The importance of community awareness and early intervention National Center for School Safetyhttps://www.nc2s.org University of Michigan Institute for Firearm Injury Preventionhttps://firearminjury.umich.edu Relevant Resources and Links: Support us on Patreon for exclusive content and early access to episodes. Subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts. More insights from Katherine Schweit: Katherine Schweit.. Website: Sarah Ferris Media Email: conningthecon@yahoo.com Share: If you found this episode insightful, share it with someone who might benefit from it and join the conversation on social media. RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a Sarah Ferris Media production on the Killer Podcasts Network.Check out more Sarah Ferris Media productions: CONmunity podcast KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY WATCHING TWO DETECTIVES Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When we talk about gun violence, we count the dead.We count the injured.We debate the laws. But what about the financial cost? In this episode, former FBI executive Katherine Schweit examines the hidden economic impact of gun violence in America — from multi-million-dollar settlements to bankrupt gun manufacturers. Using real cases including: The 2022 Buffalo Tops Supermarket shooting The $73 million Sandy Hook settlement The $10 million award to a teacher shot by a 6-year-old student Lawsuits involving ghost guns, straw purchases, and firearm accessories Katherine breaks down: ✔ What the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA) actually protects✔ Why a gun accessory manufacturer paid $1.75 million✔ How liability law is evolving✔ Whether firearm companies should be shielded from responsibility✔ And what shifting financial risk could mean for the future of gun policy This isn't a debate about the Second Amendment.It's a conversation about accountability, insurance, and the true cost of doing business in a country flooded with firearms. Because beyond grief and trauma — there is an economic impact. And someone always pays. Gun violence financial impact Firearm manufacturer liability PLCAA explained Sandy Hook lawsuit settlement Buffalo supermarket shooting 2022 Ghost guns and legal accountability Straw purchases and gun dealer liability School shooting lawsuits Insurance requirements for gun owners Economic cost of gun violence in America Relevant Resources and Links: Support us on Patreon for exclusive content and early access to episodes. Subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts. More insights from Katherine Schweit: Katherine Schweit.. Website: Sarah Ferris Media Email: conningthecon@yahoo.com Share: If you found this episode insightful, share it with someone who might benefit from it and join the conversation on social media. SUPPORTING OUR SPONSORS, SUPPORTS THE PODCAST CRIMECON UK TICKETS HERE CRIMECON US TICKETS HERE DON'T forget to use DISCOUNT CODE “FERRIS” RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a Sarah Ferris Media production on the Killer Podcasts Network.Check out more Sarah Ferris Media productions: CONmunity podcast KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY WATCHING TWO DETECTIVESGun Violence, Firearm Law, Sandy Hook, Buffalo Shooting, School Safety, Second Amendment, Public Policy, Crime Prevention, Legal Analysis, True Crime Education Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As major religious holidays approach — Ramadan, Eid, Passover, and Easter — security agencies often raise threat assessments. Former FBI executive Katherine Schweit explains why periods of global conflict and major faith gatherings can increase security risks, and what simple awareness steps families can take to stay safe. This quick Stop the Killing bonus episode looks at how threat assessments work — and why being alert, not afraid, is one of the most important tools for public safety. Relevant Resources and Links: Support us on Patreon for exclusive content and early access to episodes. Subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts. More insights from Katherine Schweit: Katherine Schweit.. Website: Sarah Ferris Media Email: conningthecon@yahoo.com Share: If you found this episode insightful, share it with someone who might benefit from it and join the conversation on social media. SUPPORTING OUR SPONSORS, SUPPORTS THE PODCAST CRIMECON UK TICKETS HERE CRIMECON US TICKETS HERE DON'T forget to use DISCOUNT CODE “FERRIS” RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a Sarah Ferris Media production on the Killer Podcasts Network.Check out more Sarah Ferris Media productions: CONmunity podcast KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY WATCHING TWO DETECTIVES Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When a school shooting happens, the focus is usually on the gunman. But what happens when the parents are held responsible too? In this episode of Stop the Killing, former FBI executive Katherine Schweit examines the landmark conviction of a father following the Apalachee High School shooting in Georgia, where two students and two teachers were killed in September 2024. The case raises a question that is reshaping the legal landscape in the United States: Can parents be criminally liable for the actions of their children? Following a two-week trial and just two hours of jury deliberation, the father of the alleged teenage shooter was convicted on multiple charges including involuntary manslaughter and second-degree murder. In this episode, we unpack: Why prosecutors argued the father was criminally negligent How this case compares to the Oxford High School shooting parents' convictions The warning signs that appeared before the tragedy The legal concept of parental liability in school shootings What threat assessment teams can do to prevent violence Why prosecutors may increasingly charge parents in future cases This episode explores the difficult but urgent question: Where does responsibility begin — and where does it end — when a child commits an act of mass violence? Because the legal system may be entering a new era where parental decisions can carry criminal consequences. Apalachee High School shooting Parents charged in school shootings Criminal negligence and gun ownership Oxford High School shooting parents case Warning signs before mass violence Threat assessment teams in schools Gun access and youth violence prevention Legal accountability in school shootings Relevant Resources and Links: Support us on Patreon for exclusive content and early access to episodes. Subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts. More insights from Katherine Schweit: Katherine Schweit. Website: Sarah Ferris Media Email: conningthecon@yahoo.com Share: If you found this episode insightful, share it with someone who might benefit from it and join the conversation on social media. RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a Sarah Ferris Media production on the Killer Podcasts Network.Check out more Sarah Ferris Media productions: CONmunity Podcast KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY WATCHING TWO DETECTIVES Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Authorities in the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie say they believe she's still out there. Tony Dokoupil speaks with former FBI agent Katherine Schweit to break down the case. Face the Nation's Margaret Brennan says why she thinks the world could be a more dangerous place following the world's largest nuclear powers plan to limit their nuclear arsenals. And, new bill in Florida expands the vaccine exemptions for parents. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

"Today" show co-host Savannah Guthrie and her siblings said in an emotional video to their mother Nancy Guthrie, who went missing over the weekend, "if you're listening, we need you to come home. We miss you." They also issued a plea to whoever may be holding the 84-year-old for her safe return. Jonathan Vigliotti breaks down the moments that led up to her vanishing and what we've learned since. Anna Schecter also joins with more analysis. Former FBI agent Katherine Schweit discusses the Guthrie family's message to their missing mother, Nancy Guthrie, and her potential abductor, as well as what we know about a possible ransom note and what's next in the investigation. The latest release of millions of pages from the Epstein files reveals new details about the convicted sex offender's relationship with Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor, formerly Prince Andrew, and former British Ambassador to the U.S. Peter Mandelson. Leigh Kiniry reports. In the series "USA to Z," "CBS Mornings" co-host Nate Burleson looks at equality in America. A once segregated bowling alley in a small South Carolina city became the site of peaceful protests in the 1960s until tensions erupted into what's now known as the Orangeburg massacre. Today, the site is being reclaimed and redefined. Bestselling author and CBS News contributor Arthur C. Brooks argues the role of therapy is not about making people more happy, but less unhappy. He speaks to "CBS Mornings" about therapy expectations and the difference between increasing your level of happiness versus being unhappy. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Uvalde Verdict: What the Decision Really Means The verdict is in. In this episode of Stop the Killing, former FBI executive and use-of-force expert Katherine Schweit breaks down the legal outcome of the Uvalde case — what the verdict establishes, what it doesn't, and why accountability in cases like this is so often misunderstood. This is not reactionary commentary. It's a clear-eyed explanation of how deadly force law, command responsibility, and policy failures intersect — and why public expectations and legal reality rarely align.

(Re-Release – Companion Episode) If you've listened to our recent update on Stop the Killing and want a clear, detailed reminder of what actually happened in Uvalde, this episode is for you. In this companion re-release, former FBI executive and use-of-force expert Katherine Schweit walks listeners through the full factual timeline of the Robb Elementary School shooting in Uvalde, Texas — drawing directly from the U.S. Department of Justice's extensive Critical Incident Review. Rather than headlines or speculation, this episode breaks down: What law enforcement knew — and when How an active shooter was repeatedly misclassified as a barricaded subject The complete 77-minute delay between first police entry and the shooter being stopped The absence of command and control, despite dozens of officers on scene Why training, leadership, and communication failures compounded minute by minute How misinformation spread among responders, families, and medical teams What the DOJ identified as systemic breakdowns, not individual hindsight errors This episode also explains — in plain language — the critical difference between: Active shooter response (immediate engagement to stop the killing), and Barricaded subject protocols (containment and negotiation) A distinction that mattered enormously — and tragically — in Uvalde. For listeners following the current conversation and updates, this episode provides the essential context needed to understand: Why Uvalde remains a case study in what must never happen again How failures in leadership and coordination can override training What lessons the DOJ says must be learned to prevent future loss of life This is not an opinion piece.It is a fact-driven reconstruction, based on hundreds of pages of official findings, and presented to ensure the truth is understood — not forgotten. Stop the Killing examines critical incidents involving deadly force through the lens of experience, evidence, and accountability. Hosted by journalist Sarah Ferris and former FBI executive Katherine Schweit, the podcast focuses on what actually happened, why it matters, and how future tragedies can be prevented. Resources & Links: Support us on Patreon for exclusive content and early access to episodes. Subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts. More insights from Katherine Schweit: Katherine Schweit. Stop the Bleed training. FBI: RUN, HIDE, FIGHT. CrimeCon UK Tickets — Use DISCOUNT CODE “FERRIS” for a special offer! Check out more from Sarah Ferris Media: Conning the Con Klooghless: The Long Con Guilty Greenie Watching Two Detectives The Bravery Academy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nearly four years after the Uvalde school shooting, an unprecedented criminal trial is underway. In this episode of Stop the Killing Podcast, former FBI executive and prosecutor Katherine Schweit examines the prosecution of a responding officer charged with 29 felony counts of abandoning or endangering a child — not for what he did, but for what prosecutors argue he failed to do.  This fact-based episode explains how failure-to-act cases are judged, what prosecutors must prove, and why this trial could reshape accountability in active shooter responses. Related episodes: https://evergreenpodcasts.com/stop-the-killing/s4e48-the-uvalde-shooting-a-comprehensive-analysis Resources & Links: Support us on Patreon for exclusive content and early access to episodes. Subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts. More insights from Katherine Schweit: Katherine Schweit. Stop the Bleed training. FBI: RUN, HIDE, FIGHT. CrimeCon UK Tickets — Use DISCOUNT CODE “FERRIS” for a special offer! Check out more from Sarah Ferris Media: Conning the Con Klooghless: The Long Con Guilty Greenie Watching Two Detectives The Bravery Academy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of Stop the Killing Podcast, former FBI agent and prosecutor Katherine Schweit breaks down the fatal shooting of Renee Goode, a 37-year-old U.S. citizen, by a federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent in Minneapolis. Rather than reacting to headlines or social media outrage, this episode focuses on one question only: Did the officer's actions meet the legal standard for the use of deadly force? Drawing on Department of Justice policy, Supreme Court case law, and her own experience investigating officer-involved shootings, Schweit explains: What “objectively reasonable” force actually means When officers are legally prohibited from shooting at moving vehicles Why anger, frustration, or refusal to comply do not justify deadly force How federal investigations differ when the shooter is a federal agent What investigators will be required to evaluate — regardless of politics This episode does not reach a verdict.It explains the rules — so listeners can understand how this case will be judged. DOJ and DHS deadly force policy Shooting into a vehicle: what the law allows and forbids Federal vs state investigations in officer-involved shootings Why “escape” alone can never justify deadly force What video evidence can — and cannot — tell us This case has ignited protests and intense public debate.Understanding the actual legal standard is essential — especially when emotions are high and facts are still emerging. Relevant Resources and Links: Learn more about Change the Ref and how you can get involved: changetheref.org Support the podcast on Patreon or via Apple Subscriptions. Related podcast episodes: Watching Two Detectives CONmunity podcast  The Bravery Academy Guilty Greenie If you found this episode impactful, consider subscribing to the Stop the Killing podcast on Apple Podcasts or supporting us on Patreon to help continue these crucial conversations. Your support allows us to keep producing this independent podcast and contribute to making a real-world difference. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this bonus episode of Stop the Killing, Sarah shares why she felt compelled to release this previously recorded Thanksgiving episode today — after waking to the devastating news of the Bondi Beach shooting in Australia. Early reports indicate two gunmen — a father and son — opened fire on a Jewish Hanukkah celebration. Amid the terror, a civilian, Ahmed Al Ahmed, intervened and wrestled the gun from one of the attackers, an extraordinary act of bravery that undoubtedly saved lives. His courage, and the countless other acts of heroism that day, deserve to be remembered alongside the victims of this horrific event. Following Sarah's reflection on Bondi Beach, Katherine Schweit walks listeners through the recent headlines across the United States — a stark reminder of the rise in everyday gun violence: shootings in parking lots, malls, tree-lighting ceremonies, restaurants, and road-rage encounters. These are not the mass-casualty attacks that dominate front-page news, but the far more frequent, unpredictable shootings that end lives and shatter families daily. Katherine breaks down: Why “every neighbourhood” is now potentially vulnerable How small disputes escalate into gunfire Why situational awareness is essential The dangers of anger and firearms in the same moment The toll of stress and the holiday season on suicide by firearm How we can all be part of the solution this holiday season This episode is a reminder that civilians can make a difference, heroes walk among us, and awareness — combined with empathy, grace, and responsible gun ownership — can save lives. To the victims and families affected in Bondi Beach, and to all impacted by gun violence everywhere: our hearts go out to you. OIN THE CONVERSATION We invite you to share this episode with friends, family, and educators. Let's work together to create safer school environments and inspire action within our communities. Call to Action: If you found this episode impactful, consider subscribing to the Stop the Killing podcast on Apple Podcasts or supporting us on Patreon to help continue these crucial conversations. Your support allows us to keep producing this independent podcast and contribute to making a real-world difference. Relevant Resources and Links: More insights from Katherine Schweit: Katherine Schweit. Website: Sarah Ferris Media Email: conningthecon@yahoo.com Share: If you found this episode insightful, share it with someone who might benefit from it and join the conversation on social media. SUPPORTING OUR SPONSORS, SUPPORTS THE PODCAST CRIMECON UK TICKETS HERE CRIMECON US TICKETS HERE DON'T forget to use DISCOUNT CODE “FERRIS” RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a Sarah Ferris Media production on the Killer Podcasts Network.Check out more Sarah Ferris Media productions: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY WATCHING TWO DETECTIVES Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

If you want the very latest updates on this case, head to Patreon or Apple Subscriptions — that's where we're posting breaking news episodes as soon as they happen. And don't forget to follow us on Instagram @stopthekillingstories for updates and behind-the-scenes content. In this episode, retired FBI executive Katherine Schweit — former head of the Bureau's Active Shooter Program — brings you the latest on the Charlie Kirk assassination case following the Utah County prosecutor's first press conference. Katherine breaks down: Why the case was filed at the state level as an “information” rather than a federal indictment The seven charges now filed, including aggravated murder, felony discharge of a firearm, obstruction of justice, witness tampering, and committing a violent offense in the presence of a child The aggravating factors that could increase sentencing: children present at the shooting and targeting political expression How text messages and a handwritten note became central evidence What the prosecutor's decision to seek the death penalty means for the long road ahead As always, Katherine takes the heat out of the headlines and focuses on the facts. Support us on Patreon for exclusive content and early access. Subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts. More about Katherine Schweit and her work: Katherine Schweit. Connect with Sarah Ferris: Sarah Ferris Media. Subscribe to the podcast on your favorite platform. Support us on Patreon or Apple Subscriptions for exclusive bite-sized episodes and more. Leave a five-star review on Apple Podcasts to help others find the show. Follow us on Instagram @stopthekillingstories for updates and behind-the-scenes content. Send us your questions, feedback, and case suggestions through our websites or Instagram. Stop the Bleed training FBI RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a Sarah Ferris Media production on the Killer Podcasts Network. Check out more Sarah Ferris Media productions: Conning the Con Klooghless – The Long Con Guilty Greenie The Bravery Academy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Subscriber Exclusive Early Access  In this special briefing, retired FBI executive Katherine Schweit — former head of the Bureau's Active Shooter Program — brings her insider expertise to unpack the assassination of political commentator Charlie Kirk. Recorded just days after the Utah campus shooting, Katherine cuts through the noise of conspiracy theories and political spin to deliver verified facts: how the sniper carried out the attack, what evidence investigators recovered, and why the suspect's background and online activity matter. Drawing on her decades inside the FBI, Katherine explains the investigative process step by step — from sniper tactics to forensic analysis, possible charges, and how law enforcement builds a timeline to uncover motive. She also connects this case to the broader patterns she saw while leading the FBI's response to mass shootings: political, ideological, or ego-driven violence that thrives in an atmosphere of hate. Most importantly, Katherine leaves listeners with a call to action: recognize the warning signs, take responsibility for how we speak and share online, and choose kindness over division. Because preventing violence starts long before a trigger is pulled. Relevant Resources and Links: Support us on Patreon for exclusive content and early access. Subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts. More about Katherine Schweit and her work: Katherine Schweit. Connect with Sarah Ferris: Sarah Ferris Media. Calls to Action: Subscribe to the podcast on your favorite platform. Support us on Patreon or Apple Subscriptions for exclusive bite-sized episodes and more. Leave a five-star review on Apple Podcasts to help others find the show. Follow us on Instagram @stopthekillingstories for updates and behind-the-scenes content. Send us your questions, feedback, and case suggestions through our websites or Instagram. SUPPORTING OUR SPONSORS, SUPPORTS THE PODCAST CRIMECON UK TICKETS HERE CRIMECON US TICKETS HERE DON'T forget to use DISCOUNT CODE “FERRIS”  RESOURCES Stop the Bleed training FBI  RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a Sarah Ferris Media on the Killer Podcasts Network Check out more Sarah Ferris Media productions: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this clip, retired FBI executive Katherine Schweit — former head of the FBI's Active Shooter Program — breaks down the disturbing messages the shooter sent after the attack. Katherine explains how these texts became central to the witness tampering and obstruction of justice charges, and why prosecutors place such weight on this kind of evidence when building a case.

Laura interviews retired FBI Special Agent Katherine  Schweit who created and led the agency's active shooter program after the shootings at Sandy Hook in 2012. In the wake of the Minneapolis shooting on August, 27 2025 where two children, 10-year-old Harper Moyski and 8-year-old Fletcher Merkel were murdered, Laura and Kate share the characteristics of mass shooters, the behaviour that reveals they are preventable, the connection with domestic abuse, coercive control and the deep seated motivation for power and control. Listen to this life saving and changing conversation and learn what went wrong at Uvalde when police waited more than an hour before confronting and killing the gunman, who shot dead 19 children and 2 adults as well as how to talk with your child(ren) as a parent. Join Laura and Kate for a Ringleader live event in the Crime Analyst Squad on September 24 2025 to discuss her new book, Women Who Talk to the Dead: www.patreon.com/CrimeAnalyst     #MassShooting #Prevention #Profiling #ActiveShooter #Minneapolis #Education #Behaviour #MaleEntitlement #Patriarchy #Psychology #PowerAndControl #WomenWhoTalkToTheDead #HiddenHomicides #CrimeAnalyst #TrueCrime #Podcast #HighRisk #WarningSigns #CrimeAnalystSqaud Clip https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/victims-identified-in-minneapolis-school-shooting-246038085596 Find more from KateSocials: @kateschweit https://www.katherineschweit.com/it-starts-with-knowledge   FB: Katherine Schweit, Author   LinkedIn: Katherine Schweit   Consulting: https://www.schweitconsulting.com/   Kate's Books Stop the Killing: How to Prevent Mass Shooting:  https://a.co/d/aKZJNxD How to Talk About Gun's With Anyone: https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/fbi-releases-study-on-active-shooter-incidents Women Who Talk To the Dead: https://a.co/d/22Q6Y4Y   Sources    Kate's Ted Talk: https://youtu.be/fqnq0Br-UEg?si=P6dr1eYwzVmjOMP_ https://www.businessinsider.com/uvalde-fbi-shooter-policy-author-questions-hesitant-police-response-2022-5 https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/30/opinion/uvalde-school-shooting.html https://www.thelaurarichards.com/resources/coercivecontrol    https://www.thelaurarichards.com/resources/stalking https://www.thelaurarichards.com/resources/books    https://www.thelaurarichards.com/my-two-cents/serial-and-high-risk-stalkers-and-domestic-abusers       Thank You to Crime Analyst Sponsors Who Make the Show Possible. Support The Show Through the Sponsor: Head on over to Rula.com/CRIME to get started today. REGISTER For Laura's 2025 Masterclasses – September Sale – Book one course and save 50% off your second. Profiling Behaviour, Preventing Murder and Suicide in Slow Motion, DASH, DASH Train the Trainer, Coercive Control and Stalking: https://bit.ly/LRMasterclassRegistration    More Training Info: www.dashriskchecklist.com    www.thelaurarichards.com       Crime Analyst YouTube, Socials and Website    YouTube @crimeanalyst     Facebook Crime Analyst Podcast    Instagram @crimeanalyst @laurarichards999    Threads @crimeanalyst    X @thecrimeanalyst @laurarichards999     TikTok @crimeanalystpod    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Forhad and Mike speak with former FBI executive Katherine Schweit about mass shootings. Kate created the FBI's Active Shooter Program and is a security consultant, licensed Illinois attorney, author and podcast host.  Connect and learn more about Katherine at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kateschweit/Send your comments and/or questions to info@integrasintel.com. We want to hear from you.Please subscribe to our podcast and follow us on social media: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/integras-intelligence-inc.Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/integrasintelInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/integras_intel/Twitter: https://twitter.com/integrasintelYoutube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIBx0BlZB_u1qolio6LPbsA⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#security⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#integrasintelligence⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#duediligence⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#privateinvestigators⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#investigationinsiders⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#podcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#privateinvestigations⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#backgroundchecks⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#litigationsupport⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#employmentscreening⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#riskmanagement⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#executiveprotection⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#securityassessment⁠⁠  

Former Head of the FBI Active Shooter Program Katherine Schweit provides expert analysis of the Minneapolis Catholic school shooting, offering insight into law enforcement response and prevention strategies.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Former Head of the FBI Active Shooter Program Katherine Schweit provides expert analysis of the Minneapolis Catholic school shooting, offering insight into law enforcement response and prevention strategies.

The Story of 200 Forgotten Murder Victims By Robert Riggs They were daughters. Mothers. Sisters. Strangers. Their lives ended violently—and their names were lost to time. For more than half a century, Detroit's forgotten dead lay buried beneath weeds and silence—unidentified murder victims dumped into paupers' graves, sometimes stacked in vaults three-deep, known only by numbers in crumbling cemetery logs. No names. No justice. No answers. This is the remarkable five-year journey of a team of relentless female investigators who pledged to identify more than 200 victims of Detroit's outstanding murder cases. Led by Detroit Police Detective Shannon Jones and FBI Special Agent Leslie Larsen, this group of dedicated women—detectives, agents, forensic anthropologists, and scientists—literally dug through the past to bring closure to families and justice to the murdered. Their quest became known as Operation UNITED, the largest coordinated exhumation of cold case murder victims in FBI history. Katherine Schweit tells the story of this unprecedented, five-year mission in her book, Women Who Talk to the Dead. Schweit is a former FBI Special Agent Executive, Chicago prosecutor, and journalist. She wrote the FBI's seminal report on mass shooters and is a recognized expert in crisis response and workplace violence. If you or someone you know is searching for a missing loved one, there's a tool that can help. The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System, or NamUs.

This edWeb podcast is sponsored by Navigate360.The edLeader Panel recording can be accessed here.Is your school truly safe or just secure on the surface? Join national school safety experts Dr. Joe McKenna and Katherine Schweit for a timely and actionable edWeb podcast discussion on what it really takes to protect today's schools physically, emotionally, and psychologically.As school leaders navigate rising threats, growing mental health needs, and public pressure, many are realizing that visible security measures aren't enough. This session explores how to move beyond surface-level solutions and build a culture of safety that brings together physical security, mental well-being, behavioral intervention, and emergency preparedness into one connected, simplified strategy.You walk away with:A clear understanding of today's school safety landscapeInsight into how behavior and mental health support preventionA practical framework for proactive, comprehensive safety planningRegardless of your specific role, if you're responsible for keeping K-12 schools safe, supported, and prepared, this edWeb podcast helps you connect the dots and lead with confidence.Navigate360Easy-to-use technology, comprehensive training, and guidance to help you build your safe school nowDisclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase, I may receive a commission at no extra cost to you.Learn more about viewing live edWeb presentations and on-demand recordings, earning CE certificates, and using accessibility features.

In a rare bit of encouraging news, the FBI's 2024 report on active shooter incidents shows a 50% drop in cases — from 48 in 2023 to 24 in 2024. But is this a trend or an outlier? In this episode of the Policing Matters podcast, host Jim Dudley talks with two of the country's foremost experts on mass shootings and prevention: former FBI executive Katherine Schweit, author of “Stop the Killing” and host of “Stop the Killing” podcast and psychologist Dr. Peter Langman, author and threat assessment consultant. They break down what's behind the drop and what law enforcement and communities need to do to sustain progress. Schweit and Langman dig into key drivers behind the decline, including expanded civilian preparedness, stronger threat assessment protocols in schools, improved collaboration between law enforcement and behavioral health, and the use of AI technologies like ZeroEyes. They also weigh in on legislative factors such as red flag laws and gun purchase restrictions, while warning about new threats like increased use of IEDs and the normalization of political violence. About our sponsor This episode of the Policing Matters podcast is sponsored by OfficerStore. Learn more about getting the gear you need at prices you can afford by visiting OfficerStore.com.

Retired agent Katherine Schweit reviews Operation UNITED, the largest coordinated exhumation of unidentified murder victims in FBI history. Detroit Police Detective Shannon Jones and FBI Special Agent Leslie Larsen spearheaded the initiative. Their primary goal was to identify the nameless dead and bring closure to families who had spent decades wondering what happened to their loved ones. Their ultimate goal was to solve 200 murder cases. Jones and Larsen assembled a team led by female forensic anthropologists, scientists, and investigators. Katherine Schweit is the author of "Women Who Talk to the Dead: The True Story of 200 Forgotten Murder Victims and the Relentless Pursuit of Justice by an FBI Agent and a Detroit Police Detective." Katherine served in the FBI for twenty years. Check out episode show notes, photos, and related articles: https://jerriwilliams.com/359-katherine-schweit-operation-united-women-who-talk-to-the-dead/       Buy me a coffee - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/JerriWilliams     Join my Reader Team to get the FBI Reading Resource - Books about the FBI, written by FBI agents, the 20 clichés about the FBI Reality Checklist, and keep up to date on the FBI in books, TV, and movies via my monthly email. Join here. http://eepurl.com/dzCCmL      Check out my FBI books, non-fiction and crime fiction, available as audiobooks, ebooks and paperbacks wherever books are sold. https://jerriwilliams.com/books/  

This week on Stop the Killing, we're bringing you some rare and cautiously optimistic news.Former FBI agent Katherine Schweit breaks down the newly released FBI 2024 Active Shooter Report, and the headline is striking:

BONUS: BLOODSHED BADDIES x STOP THE KILLING In this bonus episode, we're sharing a conversation originally recorded for the Bloodshed Baddies podcast—where our very own Katherine Schweit joins Lex and Sam for an unfiltered, fascinating, and sometimes funny deep dive into her career and mission. From her early days in journalism to becoming the FBI's top expert on active shooter response, Katherine reflects on how each chapter prepared her for the next—and why she's still working to prevent the next tragedy. They also discuss Katherine's latest book, Women Who Talk to the Dead, which tells the remarkable true story of two women—an FBI agent and a Detroit detective—who refused to let 200 unidentified murder victims remain forgotten. It's a powerful tribute to persistence, justice, and the women working behind the scenes to give victims their names back. If you've ever wanted a more personal look at the real-world work behind Stop the Killing, this is the episode for you. Behind the Badge: Katherine's journey from journalist to prosecutor to FBI executive—and what those career turns taught her about justice. Mass Shooting Prevention: How Stop the Killing came to be, and why Katherine's fight against gun violence didn't stop after retiring from the FBI. A Book Born from Justice: The incredible backstory of Women Who Talk to the Dead—and how DNA, determination, and a cemetery in Detroit led to one of the most moving cases of Katherine's career. True Crime and Real Impact: Why the women behind this story—and the law enforcement community who stood beside them—remind us all of the power of not giving up. Support us on Patreon for exclusive content and early access to episodes. Subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts. More insights from Katherine Schweit: Katherine Schweit. Website: Sarah Ferris Media Email: conningthecon@yahoo.com Share: If you found this episode insightful, share it with someone who might benefit from it and join the conversation on social media. CRIMECON UK TICKETS HERE CRIMECON US TICKETS HERE DON'T forget to use DISCOUNT CODE “FERRIS” Stop the Bleed training FBI RUN, HIDE, FIGHT This is a Sarah Ferris Media production on the Killer Podcasts Network.Check out more Sarah Ferris Media productions: CONNING THE CON KLOOGHLESS - THE LONG CON GUILTY GREENIE THE BRAVERY ACADEMY WATCHING TWO DETECTIVES Topics Explored:Relevant Resources and Links:SUPPORTING OUR SPONSORS, SUPPORTS THE PODCASTRESOURCES Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices