Podcast appearances and mentions of danielle shroyer

In this final episode of Emerged, we combed through 70+ hours of interviews with dozens to look back on the movement and assess its successes, its failures, and its legacy. We talk about the central aspect of the ECM — friendship — and we listen in as two churches die. And finally, we say our goodbyes. Voices include Mark Scandrette, Doug Pagitt, Brian McLaren, Jason Mitchell, Danielle Shroyer, Lilly Lewin, Rudy Carrasco, Jonny Baker, Tim Keel, Tim Conder, Morgan McKenna, Brad Cecil, Brad Smith, Jay Bakker, Barry Taylor, Nadia Bolz-Weber, Gerardo Marti, Mike Clawson, Mike Stavlund, Diana Butler Bass, and Anthony Smith.  ______________ Emerged is a crowdfunded project. If you join, you'll have access to extra material, ad-free episodes, private livestreams with the hosts and guests, and an array of gifts at various levels of partnership. Learn more and join at EmergedPodcast.com. Our Producers: Karen Sloan - karensloan.net The Open Table Network - https://opentable.network/ Brad Cecil Chris Estus Music by The Cobalt Season (compliments of Ryan Sharp), Solomon's Porch (compliments of Ben Johnson) Order Tony's Book "The God of Wild Places: https://reverendhunter.com/books Get Tickets to Theology Beer Camp here: theologybeer.camp **Use code: EMERGEHOBBIT for $25 off at check out*** Produced by Josh Gilbert: joshgilbertmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

For all the talk about theology and postmodernism, for all the books and conferences, the heart of the Emerging Church Movement was always one thing: planting new churches. In this episode, we sit down for extended conversations with two ECM pastors: Tim Keel planted Jacob's Well in Kansas City, and he's now pastoring it toward its 25th anniversary, and Danielle Shroyer was the pastor at Journey in Dallas from 2005 to 2014. If you want an inside look at the life of a congregation in the movement, this is it. https://jacobswellchurch.org/ Music by The Cobalt Season (compliments of Ryan Sharp), Solomon's Porch (compliments of Ben Johnson), Journey Church (compliments of Z) Emerged is a crowdfunded project. If you join, you'll have access to extra material, ad-free episodes, private livestreams with the hosts and guests, and an array of gifts at various levels of partnership. Learn more and join at EmergedPodcast.com. Our Producers: Karen Sloan - karensloan.net The Open Table Network - https://opentable.network/ Pre-Order Tony's Book "The God of Wild Places: https://reverendhunter.com/books Get Tickets to Theology Beer Camp here: theologybeer.camp Produced by Josh Gilbert: joshgilbertmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Emerging Church Movement did not come from nowhere. It sprung from a history that included the Jesus Movement, the Seeker Sensitive Megachurch Movement, and a revolution in youth ministry. In this episode, hosts Tony Jones and Tripp Fuller talk about what was happening in the 1980s and 1990s in the American church that laid the groundwork for the ECM. Their guests include Danielle Shroyer, Brad Cecil, Tim Conder, Gerardo Marti, and Doug Pagitt. Emerged is a crowdfunded project. If you join, you'll have access to extra material, ad-free episodes, private livestreams with the hosts and guests, and an array of gifts at various levels of partnership. Learn more and join at EmergedPodcast.com. Our Producers: Karen Sloan - karensloan.net The Open Table Network - https://opentable.network/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We've received so much feedback on our episode with Dr. Margaret Wheatley, we decided to record an entire episode analyzing the conversation with Meg! Listeners: please keep sending us your thoughts and reactions to our episodes, we love hearing from you! Joining host Lisa Greenwood in this episode is Blair Thompson, Gil Rendle, and Danielle Shroyer. They talk about Wheatley's unsettling insistence that we are “addicted to hope,” consider what her doubling-down on “islands of sanity” means for congregations and analyze her insight on the Two-Loop theory today: but isn't emergence still possible?! This episode is packed with thought-provoking ideas that we hope add even more depth and fodder for conversation in your context. May this conversation spark the spirit within you…and as always, thanks for listening! Show Notes: Read Rev. Dr. Paul Escamilla's response to the Wheatley episode on our website here. In this episode, you'll hear us:Discuss of Wheatley's unsettling insistence that we are ‘addicted to hope' (9:19)Consider what the notion of “islands of sanity” means for local congregations (13:55)Analyze becoming vs. gaining (22:34)Interpret Wheatley's Two Loop theory for the work of the church today (37:24)Experience Danielle Shroyer reading an excerpt from the new intro to the 10th Anniversary of her book, “Boundary Breaking God” (53:00) Danielle Shroyer's BioDanielle spent over a decade in pastoral leadership and was a founding member of the emerging church movement. She speaks often across the country on issues of theology, faith, culture, and story, and she blogs at beasoulninja.com. Danielle currently serves as the Spiritual Director in Residence at Preston Hollow Presbyterian Church in Dallas.Danielle is the author of Original Blessing: Putting Sin in its Rightful Place; Where Jesus Prayed: Illuminations on the Lord's Prayer in the Holy Land; and The Boundary Breaking God: An Unfolding Story of Hope and Promise. Gil Rendle's BioGil is a retired Senior Vice President and part-time consultant with The Texas Methodist Foundation in Austin, Texas, and an independent consultant working with issues of change and leadership in denominations.Rendle has an extensive background in organizational development, group and systems theory, and leadership development. He has consulted with congregations on planning, staff and leadership development, and issues of change. He is well known for his work with middle judicatory and national denominational offices and staff as they wrestle with denominational and congregational change.He is the author of ten books, a contributor to four books, and the author of numerous articles and monographs. His most recent books include Journey in the Wilderness: New Life for Mainline Churches (2010) and Back to Zero: The Search to Rediscover the Methodist Movement (2011) both published by Abingdon Press and Doing the Math of Mission: Fruits, Faithfulness and Metrics (2014) and Quietly Courageous: Leading the Church in a Changing World (2018) both published by Rowman & Littlefield.To view videos of podcast episodes, please go to the Igniting Imagination YouTube.Subscribe to our Learning and Innovation emails here. We send emails about each...

Previous Tent guests Danielle Shroyer and Thomas Jay Oord join Sean for the fifth episode of the Disagree series to offer their perspective on how to enter into difficult conversations with calmness and an inner peace that does need to force other people to switch to your side of an argument. It may take us years to do so, but they point the way to helping engage with sharp disagreements in ways that still manages to offer people grace and care.You can find out more about Danielle Shroyer here and Thomas Jay Oord here.Has anything we make been interesting, useful or fruitful for you? You can support us by becoming a Fellow Traveller on our Patreon page HERE.

In this episode, host Kelly Wolfe is joined by author and spiritual director, Danielle Shroyer, to discuss:-what the word blessing truly means and how original blessing is the truest thing about us as humans-how the doctrine of original sin is unhelpful and unncessary to understanding human nature, sin, and our relationship to God -ways we have cartoonized and flattened the biblical account of Genesis 1-3, and what is actually there in the text when we look closer, and so much more! Guest Bio: Danielle Shroyer is a spiritual director, author, speaker, and former pastor. She currently serves as Spiritual Director in Residence at Preston Hollow Presbyterian Church, where she creates formation resources and experiences rooted in wisdom spirituality. Danielle is a graduate of Baylor University and Princeton Theological Seminary and was a founding member of the emerging church movement. She is the author of three books, most recently Original Blessing: Putting Sin in its Rightful Place. A 2nd Dan taekwondo black belt and a yoga enthusiast, she and her husband Dan have two college aged children. They live in Dallas with their two rescue dogs and a patio of feral cats. You can find her at danielleshroyer.com, or on Instagram at @DanielleShroyer.

Today Esther sits down with Danielle Shroyer - spiritual director, author, speaker, and former pastor. We chat about her most recent book Original Blessing: Putting Sin in its Rightful Place and dig into questions like… What would it look like if you decided you wanted to let go of the idea of original sin?Can you believe in original goodness and still be an orthodox Christian?What does Genesis 3 mean if it doesn't mean you are fundamentally broken?Why did Jesus come into the world if it wasn't to pay the price for your total depravity?How might you live differently if you were rooted in Belovedness?You can find her at danielleshroyer.com, and @DanielleShroyer on Twitter and Instagram. Buy the book here!

The funny, yet very insightful Danielle Shroyer, is our guest this week. Danielle Shroyer is an author, speaker, spiritual director, and former pastor. A founding member in the emerging church movement, Danielle served as the pastor of one of the nation's first independent emerging communities of faith for nearly a decade. Her primary goal as a pastor was to help people going through a season of spiritual deconstruction find healthy, sustainable, and meaningful ways to reconstruct their faith.Danielle has a particular heart for the spiritual-but-not-religious, and has long advocated for fresh approaches to spiritual community. Over the years, she has offered guidance to struggling and transitioning congregations searching for new ways to embody their purpose. You can find her reflections on meditation and other grounding spiritual practices at www.beasoulninja.com.A resident of Dallas, Texas, Danielle and her husband have two children. She's a self-declared nerd who reads voraciously and enjoys in-depth conversations about stuff some people may find boring. What she loves most in the whole world is watching someone do what makes their soul come alive. When she's not working, you can often find her at the yoga studio or in her taekwondo dojang.On this episode, Danielle unpacks the revolutionary and healing idea of original blessing and how it informs and transforms the way we interact with ourselves, our children and the world around us. This is a MUST-LISTEN!You can find Danielle at the following:Twitter: @dgshroyerInstagram: @danielle.shroyerWebsite: www.danielleshroyer.com

Part 3 of Sean's Translation and Interpretation series is a conversation with author, speaker, and spiritual director Danielle Shroyer surrounding our conception of "original sin" versus "original blessing" and placed within the context of how the Hebrew language is interpreted within our Bible translations.You can find out more about Shroyer's work at her website: http://danielleshroyer.com or follow her on Twitter here. Has anything we make been interesting, useful or fruitful for you? You can support us by becoming a Fellow Traveller on our Patreon page HERE.

This is one of those conversations that could have lasted easily another 2 hours. Enneagram 8, Danielle Shroyer, visited the Micah Center to join Suzanne on The Journey. Did you have to Google Lebanese Druze? (Joel did) Original Blessing (you're going to want your own copy) Enneagram 8s and Anger Staying connected to your history and family tree while moving on in a new world And, you guessed it, so much more!! PLUG TIME One final stop on The Enneagram Journey Toward Wholeness Tour '22! November 11-12 : Kansas City, MO Don't miss out! ALSO Trick or Treat, Passion or Virtue? October 22 : Online and at The Micah Center If you have wanted more knowledge and direction around the Enneagram Passions and Virtues, then sign up. All registrants will have access to the replay through the end of the year. More information for both events and registration at lifeinthetrinityministry.com/store Thank you for your continued support of the podcast and all of the work that LTM does. You can donate to the ministry at lifeinthetrinityministry.com/donate to keep the content coming! Today's INTRO Step Brothers (2008, Will Ferrell and John C. Reilly) Tony Jones (TEJ Podcast, EP 37) Kate Bush, Running Up That Hill (1985) The Avengers (2012 Disney)

Natalia is joined by author and spiritual director Danielle Shroyer to talk about listening to your soul, why spiritual direction isn't just for clergy, and how original sin is total crap.  Support the show at http://patreon.com/cafeteriachristian  Links: www.danielleshroyer.com  www.beasoulninja.com https://www.sdicompanions.org/

Danielle Shroyer's curiosity about the spiritual path took an unexpected turn in 2018. This founder of the emerging church movement and deeply faithful Christian leader took the path East, towards the wisdom and practices of the Eastern traditions. Her blog, Be a Soul Ninja, chronicles her experiences engaging in different Eastern religious thoughts and practices. So what does it mean to Be a Soul Ninja? In this conversation, we discuss:   Why Danielle is a ‘hot mess' at meditating and still names meditation as the practice that has helped her to grow the most in her faith (6:30) The difference between meditation and centering prayer and why Danielle does an extra day of meditation each week (10:55) How to start meditating (14:04) What it means to “Be a Soul Ninja” and why being a ninja necessarily involves being in community with others (19:17) What would it look like to spiritually direct a whole community? (24:47) What is spiritual direction and why it's important for clergy (27:40) How her blog “Be a Soul Ninja” got started after a rejected book proposal, her approach to writing the blog and an excerpt from a blog post (31:53)   QUOTES “All of that practice, I think what it does, is help me just be with myself in the reality of who I am. And I think that is incredibly important for leaders to do, because I just have to see myself exactly as I am. All the good stuff. All the bad stuff. All the stuff that's extra boring and not worth conversation on either side of good or bad. And I think that helps me sorta operate from a more centered place, because there's just no hiding from yourself if you sit and meditate in your own thoughts everyday.” -Danielle Shroyer [09:43] “Really the goal in meditation is not to stop thinking. It's just not to attach to your thoughts.” -Danielle Shroyer [17:36]   About Danielle Shroyer Danielle spent over a decade in pastoral leadership and was a founding member of the emerging church movement. She speaks often across the country on issues of theology, faith, culture, and story, and blogs at beasoulninja.com.  Danielle is the author of Original Blessing: Putting Sin in its Rightful Place; Where Jesus Prayed: Illuminations on the Lord's Prayer in the Holy Land; and The Boundary Breaking God: An Unfolding Story of Hope and Promise.   RESOURCES & RELEVANT LINKS Find out more about today's guest, Danielle Shroyer, including information about Spiritual Direction, on her website http://www.beasoulninja.com. You can also sign up for her weekly blogs to be delivered to your inbox. This podcast is brought to you by the Leadership Ministry team at TMF and Wesleyan Investive. Leadership Ministry connects diverse, high-capacity leaders in conversations and environments that create a network of courage, learning, and innovation in order to help the church lean into its God-appointed mission. Subscribe to our Leadership Ministry emails here. We send emails about each episode and include additional related resources related to the episode's topic. We know your inbox is inundated these days, we aim to send you content that is inspiring, innovative, and impactful for your life and ministry. If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts / iTunes?

This episode of The Evolving Faith Podcast features: A brand new segment of the podcast called Welcome to the Party, Jeff where Jeff reveals which show from pop culture past that he has “discovered.”  Danielle Shroyer's talk from the 2019 Evolving Faith conference that none of us have been able to forget. Danielle discussing the story of original sin and taking us back to the garden to remind us that the older, more ancient story is one of original blessing. Her reminder that our humanity isn't what separates us from God, it's actually what connects us. Danielle closing with a guided meditation that just might be what we all need. Following Danielle's talk, Jeff and Sarah discussing theologies of grace and why letting God love us can feel like a challenge.   Show Notes Evolving Faith Conference Podcast After Party (Community Discussion)

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It's been said Christianity is heavy on teaching and light on praxis. You could argue the last two thousands years of Church history has been one long, and often violent, conversation about right beliefs but not right action. Thus, you can believe all the (supposedly) right things about God, the virgin birth, the resurrection, and the Bible and still be in bondage. But what if there is another way that actually leads to spiritual and personal transformation that doesn't try to find answers to everything but rather accepts the world as it is? In our 40th episode, we sit down with former Pastor and Spiritual Director Danielle Shroyer to discuss how Buddhism intersects with her Christian tradition to produce a new way of life in a hurting world. Through daily meditation and the Eightfold Path of Buddhism, Danielle offers not just a new belief system, but an entirely new way to live a life of goodness, truth, beauty, and transformation even in the midst of incredible suffering. If you've never meditated or want to learn how, if you have always wanted to learn more about Buddhist practices, or if you still struggle with the idea of suffering and the general unsatisfactoriness of life, this conversation is for you.Guest Bio:Danielle is a spiritual director, author, speaker, and former pastor. She is the author of three books, most recently Original Blessing: Putting Sin in its Rightful Place. She also runs the blog Soul Ninja, where she reflects on the teachings of Buddhism as she practices them. Danielle is a graduate of Baylor University and Princeton Seminary. She is a taekwondo black belt and loves books, tea, and most nerdy things. She and her husband Dan have two teenagers and live in Dallas. You can find Danielle online at Soul Ninja where she shares her own journey into meditation while offering practical ways to begin this transformative practice. Danielle is also active on Twitter @DGShroyer and Instagram @Danielle.Shroyer. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a rating and a review

Krispin talks with Robert Monson about the theology behind all these "soft songs," as well as short bit with Danielle Shroyer, who we heard earlier this season. Robert is part of the 3 Black Men podcast, as well as a writer and musician. In this episode we mention Mako Nagasawa, the book Gentler God, by Doug Frank and The Inner Voice of Love by Henri Nouwen. Also, here is the article on attachment and spirituality Krispin references. Here are the songs in this episode: Mouth like a Magazine by Showbread Matthias Replaces Judas by Showbread Some Will Seek Forgiveness, Others Escape by Underoath Bliss Tearing Eyes by Dead Poetic So Great a Salvation by The OC Supertones Getting Into You by Relient K Dandelions by Five Iron Frenzy ----------------- You can support the show by becoming a patreon.  You can follow the show on twitter and instagram, and visit our website.  You can follow Krispin at twitter and instagram and sign up for a monthly email about attachment, spirituality and evangelicalism here.  You can follow DL on twitter and instagram, and buy her books here.  Send us an email! Zech Bard designed artwork for the season and Forrest Johnson wrote and recorded theme music. 

Krispin & DL talk about Bindside and “the gospel” message based on having a dirty, rotten heart. Krispin interviews Danielle Shroyer about original sin -- and original blessing. Danielle Shroyer is a spiritual director, former pastor, speaker and author of Original Blessing and The Boundary-Breaking God. You can follow her on twitter. You can listen to the two Blindside songs here and here.  ——— You can support the show by becoming a patreon.  You can follow the show on twitter and instagram, and visit our website.  You can follow Krispin at twitter and instagram and sign up for a monthly email about attachment, spirituality and evangelicalism here.  You can follow DL on twitter and instagram, and buy her books here.  Send us an email! Zech Bard designed artwork for the season and Forrest Johnson wrote and recorded theme music. 

S07 E09 Our true nature.  What do you believe about humanity?   What do you believe about yourself? What if under all the distressing disguises of sin is goodness and blessing? How might that change the way we view the world? The way we view God? What if the genesis story isn’t just about sin and judgement? What if much more is happening than we once thought!! These are just a few of the things we discuss in this riveting episode of the MIND BLOWN season of the Danielle Strickland podcast! To know more about our wonderful guest Danielle Shroyer, go to danielleshroyer.com

Danielle Shroyer is an Author, Speaker, Spiritual Director and former Pastor. She holds a B.A. from Baylor University and an M.Div. from Princeton Theological Seminary. She also serves on the board of https://www.safespaceslebanon.org/ (Safe Spaces Lebanon), an interfaith non-profit that seeks to empower, educate, and support refugee families in Lebanon. This episode goes into the role of a Bodhisattva in today's world and how Danielle incorporates the universal truths of all traditions to help people find what's right for them in their connection with the Universe and themselves. Unity is always right there, if we can see what's beyond that eludes us. www.danielleshroyer.com | www.beasoulninja.com @be.a.soul.ninja

Next season, we're talking about Christian hardcore, and touching on the whole Christian punk/ska/metal/emo universe. We'll be interviewing folks like Pádraig Ó Tuama, Soong Chan Rah, and Danielle Shroyer to understand how the evangelical theology has shaped our emotional world in the church. If you're a fan of heavy Christian music, we'd love to hear about your experience and perhaps use a sound-byte for the season. Click here to leave us a voicemail or email. We'll be back next week with the final episode of The Lion, the Witch and the Evangelicals.

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Often there are ideas and theologies that we are taught that we hold onto for a while in life, but that eventually we realize need reframing and rethinking. The doctrine of “original sin,” the idea that every human being is born completely separated from God by sin inherited from Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, is one that many Christ followers have believed and lived into, though its roots can’t actually be traced back the creation stories in Genesis. Instead, what we see in the creation story is a story of God giving human beings an identity of "original blessing." How did we end up with a doctrine of original sin? What would it look like to live into our original blessing, and let that be the identity that frames our lives? What if we looked at "blessed" as our identity as people instead of a "reward" from God? Dive into this conversation starter with us as we talk about original sin vs. original blessing.   Book referenced in podcast is Original Blessing by Danielle Shroyer

Pastor Shannon Mullen joins us for our inaugural episode! He explains the history of Christian beliefs about how Jesus' life and death effect humanity. Surprise! It's quite a doozy of a journey. Check out the soon to be number 1 podcast that all the fundamentalists will say will send you straight to hell. Also, we could use some reviews. Any reviews. Please? For Shannon's book list, look no further:These are in no particular order – don’t read anything into it. Some I have read all of, many I have read part of, and some are recommended by trusted friends. While I made the bibliography, I ordered 4 more myself!- Shannon WRITTEN FOR ALL PEOPLE - No knowledge of seminary jargon required! Brian Zahnd. Sinners in the Hands of a Loving GodBrian McLaren “With too many American Christian leaders echoing the angry, arrogant, vindictive, and violent rhetoric of our political culture, it’s hard to imagine a book more relevant and needed than Brian Zahnd’s Sinners in the Hands of a Loving God. Zahnd rightly helps us see that for better or worse, we reflect the image of the God we believe in. Zahnd’s insights into Scripture are rich and deep, making clear that if we want a less violent future, we need a vision of a nonviolent God.” Emily Swan and Ken Wilson. Solus Jesus: A Theology of Resistance“Solus Jesus not only grapples with the authority question in Christianity, but also provides a massive re-think of traditional atonement theories. Leaning on the work of René Girard, they conclude that the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus together reveal a completely good, non-violent God who is on the side of the oppressed and scapegoated of this world. As a work of queer theology, the book is intersectional in its understanding of justice, and invites readers to reconsider our understanding of what it means to follow Jesus.” J.D. Myers, Nothing but the Blood of Jesus: How the Sacrifice of Jesus Saves the World from SinThis book has amazing editorial reviews from many of the other authors on this list! For example:Brian Zahnd: "When we talk about the cross of Christ and how it is that we find salvation in it, we inevitably begin to use words like sin, law, and sacrifice. But these words are always in danger of collapsing into empty religious cliché. Thankfully, J. D. Myers takes us beyond the realm of cliché and into substantive answers in his book, Nothing but the Blood of Jesus. The chief task in atonement theology is to think about the cross in ways that do not project upon God our own sins of retributive violence. This is what Nothing but the Blood of Jesus achieves." Anthony Bartlett. Seven Stories: How to Study and Teach the Nonviolent BibleA nonviolent account of the whole sweep of God's biblical action, and includes an essential intro on atonement.Brian McLaren: “…provides a comprehensive overview of seven main story lines of the Bible, and helps us turn the Bible from a weapon (as it is too often used) into a pathway to justice, reconciliation, compassion, and peace." Brad Jersak. A More Christlike God“While not exclusively about atonement theology, this book covers a lot of ground in "unwrathing" (his word) the atonement.”“Jersek’s book is based on the simple premise that God is like Jesus. This should be an uncontroversial assertion for many Christians, but if taken to its logical conclusion and its implications spelled out, the idea undoes many assumptions made by Christianity in the West… Jersek’s Christology governs his view of atonement, i.e. what God did in the world through Christ. These two should not be different, if Christ was carrying out the mission of God in the world. Derek Flood. Healing the Gospel: A Radical Vision for Grace, Justice, and the Cross“Healing the Gospel challenges the assumption that the Christian understanding of justice is rooted in a demand for violent punishment, and instead offers a radically different understanding of the gospel based on God's restorative justice.” Michelle Clifton-Soderstrom. Where is it Written? Understanding the Cross and the Church’s Ministry of LoveArticle on P.Waldenström, 19th century author Swedish pastor who got into hot water with Swedish Lutherans in Sweden and the US for pushing back against “payment for sin” theology. There is nothing new under the sun!Available here:  http://covchurch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2010/05/0804-Where-Is-It-Written.pdf William Paul Young. The ShackNovel in which God is depicted rejecting substitutionary atonement thinking.Quote from the author in an interview: “…we’re dealing with the concept of the wrath of God, and here’s an underlying question: ‘Do you believe that God does anything that is not motivated by love?’”  Richard Rohr. The Universal Christ: How a Forgotten Reality Can Change Everything We See, Hope For, and BelieveNewly released. NY Times Best Seller. “Drawing on scripture, history, and spiritual practice, Rohr articulates a transformative view of Jesus Christ as a portrait of God’s constant, unfolding work in the world. ‘God loves things by becoming them…’ Tony Jones. Did God Kill Jesus? Searching for Love in History's Most Famous ExecutionMany Christians believe that God the Father demanded his only Son die a cruel, gruesome death to appease His wrath, since humanity is so irredeemably sinful and therefore repugnant to God. Tony Jones, popular progressive Christian blogger, author, and scholar, argues that this understanding is actually a medieval invention and not what the Bible really teaches. Greg Boyd, Crucifixion of the Warrior GodEpic treatment – two volumes, comprising nearly 1500 pages.“Developing a theological interpretation of Scripture that he labels a "cruciform hermeneutic," Boyd demonstrates how the Bible's violent images of God are reframed and their violence subverted when interpreted through the lens of the cross and resurrection. Indeed, when read in this way, Boyd argues that these violent depictions bear witness to the same self-sacrificial nature of God that was ultimately revealed on the cross.” Greg Boyd. Cross Vision: How the Crucifixion of Jesus Makes Sense of Old Testament ViolenceA follow-up to The Crucifixion of the Warrior God. Less than 300 pages.“Boyd shows how the death and resurrection of Jesus reframes the troubling violence of the Old Testament, how all of Scripture reveals God's self-sacrificial love, and, most importantly, how we can follow Jesus' example of peace.” N.T. Wright. The Day the Revolution BeganMike McHargue: “With this work, N.T. Wright topples the simplistic, personalized view of the cross and the bloodthirsty God that once wrecked my own faith. Instead, we find the cross illuminated by a God that invites us to bring goodness into this world instead of trying to escape it.” Danielle Shroyer. Original Blessing: Putting Sin in its Rightful PlaceNot strictly atonement theory, but deeply connected.“The wrathful God of the Old Testament overshadows the gracious "Abba Father" that Jesus taught his disciples to pray to. A wrathful frightening portrayal of God can be found in both the Old and New Testaments, but fortunately it is not the only picture scripture conveys! Shroyer brings this more gracious and loving picture into focus.”Richard Beck: "Original sin is one of the most hurtful doctrines within Christianity. Hurtful to ourselves and to others. But what if our identities flow out blessing rather than total depravity? Danielle Shroyer's profound and compelling Original Blessing is a life-giving paradigm shift that draws us out of fear, shame, and guilt and deeper into joy, love, and grace." Gil Baillie. Violence Unveiled: Humanity at the CrossroadsJ.D. Myers: “Of all the books I have read so far on Girard's mimetic theory and the practice of scapegoating and how this helps us read and understand the violence of God in Scripture, this book by Bailie was the most helpful one yet. If you want to understand the violence of Scripture, or mimetic theory, or the Christus Victor view of the atonement, or what Jesus accomplished on the cross, this is one of the books you absolutely must read.” Michael Hardin. The Jesus Driven Life: Reconnecting Humanity with JesusThe Jesus Driven Life looks at the Bible through the lens of Rene Girard's mimetic theory to develop a way of understanding the authority of scripture within Christianity apart from a theory of the inspiration of the Bible.J.D. Myers: “This is a great book, with groundbreaking information that will transform how you read the Old Testament and the New Testament, and how you understand the role of religion in society and culture. This book provides a great move forward in the discussion on non-violence.”Caveat: “…the book seemed to follow a "stream of consciousness" approach. Each section was incredibly insightful and helpful, but one section rarely fit well with what preceded or followed it. If you can get past that, this book will challenge everything you think you know about the violence in Scripture, the role of the church in the world, and how you view your enemies.” James Alison. Knowing JesusDelves into a topic most often associated with evangelical Protestant Christianity: having a personal relationship with Jesus. At the heart of Knowing Jesus is the idea of "the intelligence of the victim." Alison explains "the intelligence of the victim" as Jesus' self-understanding of his role as victim, and his freely given self-offering in sacrifice. This "intelligence of the victim" only becomes apparent to the disciples of Jesus after their experience of the crucified and resurrected Christ--and even then it took some time for it to sink in. As we ourselves apprehend "the intelligence of the victim" we can experience the freely offered grace of God's forgiveness and at the same time extricate ourselves from the role of victimizer, as participant in the violence of the world that led to Christ's death and that causes so much pain and destruction to this day. Sharon Baker. Executing God: Rethinking Everything You've Been Taught about Salvation and the CrossBrian McLaren: "I've grappled with the subject of this book for years and read piles of books on it. Sharon has crystallized the problems so clearly and proposed solutions so gently and graciously that I know I'll be recommending it widely. Young Christians especially should take advantage of this chance for Sharon to be their professor. She's a consummate educator and a trustworthy guide." Sharon Baker. Razing Hell: Rethinking Everything You've Been Taught about God's Wrath and JudgmentJohn D. Caputo: "A lively, thoughtful and accessible rethinking of one of the most disturbing notions in Christian theology, the prospect of eternal damnation. Put this book on your 'must read' list."Brian McLaren: "What I tried to do in my book The Last Word and the Word After That, Sharon Baker has done in Razing Hell - with more brevity, more levity, and probably with more clarity and accessibility too. Highly recommended." Jacqueline Bussie. Love Without Limits: Jesus' Radical Vision for Love with No ExceptionsNot atonement theology per se, but a must read about the radical Love of God. My congregation members (with average attendance of 140) purchased 120+ copies. People gave it as gifts to dozens.Jessica Mesman Griffith: "I want to press this book into the hands of every Christian who has despaired of our faith being choked by narrow moralism, prejudice, nationalism, and all those who sought Jesus and were greeted by a door slammed in the face instead of a seat at his banquet table. I want to stock it in every church pew where I've heard something contrary to the love of Christ preached. Bussie's words reminded me of how vast and expansive Christ was (is)--and that Christian love shook the earth precisely because it extends to every single person without exception, even to me. Bussie's a gifted preacher with the voice of a friend who will grab you by the shoulders, look you in the eye, and say, no matter what your family of origin says, no matter what your church says, no matter what you say, you are beloved. Full stop."  CURRICULA James Alison. "Jesus the Forgiving Victim" series“Alison's work is refreshing and eye-opening, making sense of things in an inspiring way, and laying to rest old systems of belief that help to perpetuate violence and retribution in society. While his other work can be hard to traverse in its scholarship and vocabulary, Jesus the Forgiving Victim is written for lay church groups uninitiated in theological jargon. Especially when experienced in a community (like a book club/discussion group) or in conjunction with the available videos, this is a most satisfying theology that starts from who we are as people, and from that scientific, anthropological foundation, makes a case for a God who created us for a different kind of life here on this planet, and personally shows us the way to make that happen.” David Lose. Making Sense of the CrossGood Sunday School/small group material - but incomplete. Doesn't address violence head on and does not get to Girardian theory.   ADDITIONAL BIBLIOGRAPHY From my good friend Paul Nuechterlein, editor of www.GirardianLectionary.netwww.girardianlectionary.net/learn/atonement-and-mimetic-theory    MORE ACADEMIC – PERHAPS MORE SUITABLE FOR SEMINARY EDUCATED READERS: Michael Gorman. The Death of the Messiah and the Birth of the New CovenantGorman argues that New Covenant atonement understanding is an ancient model in need of rediscovery, but also a more comprehensive, integrated, participatory, communal, and missional model than any of the major models in the tradition. Life in this new covenant, Gorman argues, is a life of communal and individual participation in Jesus' faithful, loving, peacemaking death. Darrin Belousek. Atonement, Justice, and Peace: The Message of the Cross and the Mission of the Church“Long and challenging (but actually reads well) - an excellent book for anyone who wants a detailed examination of the biblical material.”"The most comprehensive and persuasive biblical critique of penal substitution currently available (and possibly ever written). Belousek analyzes in detail virtually every nut and bolt in the edifice of penal atonement theology as it is presented in current mainstream evangelicalism and does so with the kind of exegetical precision and theological commitment necessary to command a hearing from those he critiques. This is exactly the kind of book I would like to have on my shelves so that when someone asks me, 'What about Isaiah 53?' or 'What about God's wrath?' or 'What about no forgiveness without the shedding of blood?', I would know where to turn for a carefully reasoned answer."  Mark Heim. Saved from Sacrifice: A Theology of the Cross.Highly recommended by many. A good, scholarly introduction to Girardian, non-violent, atonement theory. Michael Kirwan and Sheelah Treflé Hidden, editors. Mimesis and Atonement: Rene Girard and the Doctrine of SalvationCollection of essays. Ed Willard Swartley, editor. Violence RenouncedCollection of essays.Relating to chapter 7: “Robin Collin, Theory of Mimetic participation…the best thing out there!” Andrew Sung Park. Triune Atonement: Christ's Healing for Sinners, Victims, and the Whole Creation“The book surveys historical views but also proposes that the atonement be seen as the death of Christ for both victims and the oppressed, for sinners and oppressors, for the whole creation--including animals and nature.” Gustaf Aulen. Christus Victor: An Historical Study of the Three Main Types of the Idea of the AtonementThe 1931 work which sparked a rethinking of the three classic models. Sallie McFague. Metaphorical Theology: Models of God in Religious LanguageOffers a great Feminist critique of and corrective to the historic doctrines that ought not be overlooked. Academic work. Catherine LaCugna. God For Us: the Trinity and the Christian LifeOffers a great Feminist critique of and corrective to the historic doctrines that ought not be overlooked. Academic work. Sally A. Brown. Cross Talk: Preaching Redemption Here and NowHomiletics – for preachers. “Brown proposes a metaphorical and pastoral model for preaching about the cross. Preachers can reclaim preaching on the cross, she urges, by joining New Testament metaphors to pastoral situations rather than adapting atonement theories for the pulpit. She offers specific examples in sermons designed for particular homiletical occasions.” Stephan Finlan. Problems with Atonement“The origins of atonement are found in Paul's writings. Popular Christian theology has understood them to mean that God demanded a bloody victim to pay for human sin. In Problems with Atonement Stephen Finlan examines the Christian doctrine of atonement and current debates about it.” Dennis Weaver. The Nonviolent Atonement“…challenges the traditional, Anselmian understanding of atonement ― along with the assumption that heavenly justice depends on Christ’s passive, innocent submission to violent death at the hands of a cruel God. Instead J. Denny Weaver offers a thoroughly nonviolent paradigm for understanding atonement, grounded in the New Testament and sensitive to the concerns of pacifist, black, feminist, and womanist theology. While many scholars have engaged the subject of violence in atonement theology, Weaver’s Nonviolent Atonement is the only book that offers a radically new theory rather than simply refurbishing existing theories.”

Danielle Shroyer describes how she felt "called out" by God to discover her new role as a spiritual director; and she gives listeners a crash course in two soul-nurturing practices you can try at home.

Danielle Shroyer is an author, minister and advocate, who has made a life reimagining what church can look like. She does so for people, like herself, who struggle to connect with church as they know it, but have a lot of love for God.

Of the world’s three major religions, only Christianity holds to a doctrine of original sin. The fact that many Christians believe there is something in human nature that is, and will always be, contrary to God, is not just a problem but a tragedy. This week, Danielle Shroyer joined the conversation to help us (re)think the doctrine of Original Sin. Why does the doctrine’s assumptions of human nature so infiltrate our sermons and theological bookshelves? How is it so misconstrued in times of grief, pastoral care, and personal shame? How did we fall so far from God’s original blessing in the garden to this pervasive belief in humanity’s innate inability to do good? During this conversation, Danielle Shroyer walks us through an overview of the historical development of the doctrine and brings the primary claims of original sin to their untenable (and unbiblical) conclusions. Danielle shows us not only how we got this doctrine wrong, but how we can put sin back in its rightful place: in a broader context of redemption and the blessing of humanity’s creation in the image of God. Enjoy!   Resources:  Original Blessing: Putting Sin in Its Rightful Place (Book)  DanielleShroyer.com 

Welcome to PART 5 of our series, "Women's Voices You Need To Hear".  Today we're sitting down with Danielle Shroyer to talk about her book "Original Blessing".  We talk about the toxicity of the doctrine of original sin and how goodness is at the core of each of us.  Enjoy! SHOW NOTES: Patreon What If Project Community Heretic Shop Danielle Shroyer Original Blessing Soul Ninja YUNG CITIZEN I WISH MUSIC VIDEO

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I was #blessed to have a conversation with Danielle Shroyer about her latest book, Original Blessing: Putting Sin in Its Rightful Place. We chat about original sin, her understanding of original blessing, and her involvement in the emergent church movement. Guest Bio/Info: Danielle Shroyer is a sought-after speaker, respected pastor, and a founding member of the emerging church movement. She holds a BA from Baylor University and an MDiv from Princeton Theological Seminary and is the author of Original Blessing: Putting Sin in its Rightful Place and Where Jesus Prayed. Find Danielle here: Twitter: @DGShroyer Facebook: facebook.com/DGShroyer Special music by Opensee: opensee.bandcamp.com Instagram: openseemusic Get connected to Mason: masonmennenga.com Patreon: patreon.com/masonmennenga Twitter: @masonmennenga Facebook: facebook.com/mason.mennenga Instagram: masonmennenga

Human interpretation of the Bible is far from infallible. There are ideas the historical church has ingrained in us that may demand a second look. One such idea is that of original sin - a tenet without which Christianity existed for nearly 400 years. Are we a fallen people? Are we inherently sinful? Author Danielle Shroyer doesn't think so. She joins us to make a starkly compelling case for something else altogether - original blessing. She reminds us that we are made in the image of God, that that image didn't disappear with a bite of fruit, and why it matters in the work God is calling us to do. 

Melanie shares a conversation with author and former pastor Danielle Shroyer that re-examines traditional conceptions of sin and our relationship with God. Danielle Shroyer is an author, speaker, spiritual director, and former pastor. A founding member in the emerging church movement, Danielle served as the pastor of one of the nation’s first independent emerging communities of faith for nearly a decade. Her primary goal as a pastor was to help people going through a season of spiritual deconstruction find healthy, sustainable, and meaningful ways to reconstruct their faith.

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By far, one of the most damaging doctrines to children is the Original Sin doctrine, and I try to advocate against it as much as possible. Thankfully, I can point people towards Danielle Shroyer’s work on this subject, how to view the Garden story, what Jesus atonement means, etc. if we were to do away with the Original Sin. I learned a ton, and I hope you do too!   Links (affiliates included):   Danielle on twitter Original Blessing by Danielle Shroyer Original Blessing by Matthew Fox Ten Reasons The Original Sin is Damaging for Children   EPISODE CREDITS: If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Danny Ozment. He helps thought leaders, influencers, executives, HR professionals, recruiters, lawyers, realtors, bloggers, coaches, and authors create, launch, and produce podcasts that grow their business and impact the world. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com   

Danielle Shroyer believes that more than any other idea, the doctrine of original sin has "slowly eroded our understanding of our relationship with God". Not only that, she believes it is unbiblical, and was rejected by Judaism and many Christian traditions, such as the Eastern Orthodox Church. So we ask Danielle how she understands sin, separation, and our relationship with God. Her answer? Original Blessing.  Interview begins at 11m 56s If you want more from Nomad, check out our website, and follow us on Facebook and twitter If you're looking for other people to share this journey with, then register on our Listener Map, and see if any other nomads are in your area.  Nomad can only keep going because a small group of faithful listeners help us pay the bills. If you want to join them, you can make regular donations at Patreon or a one-off or regular donation through PayPal, the links to which you can find on our support page. As a thank you, you'll have access to Nomad Book Club, our online community The Beloved Listener Lounge, and Nomad Devotionals, where we're attempting to reconstruct worship through a creative mix of songs, music, readings, prayers and guest reflections.  

Tony Jones and Ryan Parker welcome Danielle Shroyer to this week's episode of Killer Serials. They discuss episode 5 of THE HANDMAID'S TALE, now streaming on HULU. They talk about watching the series from a woman's perspective, the possibility of a better world for all, and women's magazines. Danielle is the author of Original Blessing: Putting Sin in Its Rightful Place (Fortress Press), Where Jesus Prayed: Illuminations on the Lord's Prayer in the Holy Land (Paraclete), and The Boundary-Breaking God: An Unfolding Story of Hope and Promise (Jossey-Bass) and speaks often on issues of theology, church leadership, and emerging communities of faith. Danielle lives with her husband and two children in Dallas, Texas.

Danielle Shroyer is an author, speaker, pastor, and founding member of the emerging church movement. She is the author of Original Blessing: Putting Sin in Its Rightful Place (Fortress Press, November 2016), Where Jesus Prayed: Illuminations on the Lord's Prayer in the Holy Land (Paraclete, 2015), and The Boundary-Breaking God: An Unfolding Story of Hope and Promise" (Jossey-Bass, 2009). She holds a BA from Baylor University and an MDiv from Princeton Theological Seminary. Danielle lives with her husband and two children in Dallas, Texas. You can find her at www.danielleshroyer.com.

Danielle Shroyer is the author of Original Blessing - Putting Sin in its rightful place

Danielle Shroyer is the author of Original Blessing - Putting Sin in its rightful place

Original sin, as descried by Danielle Shroyer is the 'red sock' in our theological laundry. In her new book, 'Original Blessing, Putting Sin in Its Place', Shroyer explores how we are not born separated from God as God has chosen fidelity over separation. We are not separate from God, and if we are, it's on our end.

Original sin, as descried by Danielle Shroyer is the 'red sock' in our theological laundry. In her new book, 'Original Blessing, Putting Sin in Its Place', Shroyer explores how we are not born separated from God as God has chosen fidelity over separation. We are not separate from God, and if we are, it's on our end.

Happy New Year! God is with us in a solidarity more profound than most of us ever dare to imagine. Isaiah 63:7-9 Getting wrapped up in the fulness of God’s blessing: unmediated, direct blessing. God shows up in God’s love. With an awesome digression on the Abraham story.  Psalm 148  A picture of the cosmos.… Read more about God’s Blessing as Solidarity with Us, with Danielle Shroyer #LectioCast

For God to be savior, God has to be at work. Together we delve into the work that God must do if God is to be honored and celebrated as savior. And we get wrapped up in the saving work, not only as objects, but as active participants.  Isaiah 52:7-10 What kind of good news… Read more about Christmas Proper 3: Christmas Conclusion, with Danielle Shroyer

An annual reminder that God has chosen to be in relationship with us before we could do anything in response. In the person of Jesus we are given the incarnate presence of God’s deepest blessing with us. And to that blessing we said no. And yet God continues to call us into the relationship God… Read more about Christmas Proper 2: Christmas Continues, with Danielle Shroyer

Isaiah 9:2-7 The birth of Jesus echoes the birth of an earlier king, a previous “mighty God, everlasting father.” Let that mess with your Christology!  Psalm 96  God’s plan of salvation is SO MUCH BIGGER than human salvation. The whole creation is wrapped up in God’s saving work. Do we live in such a way… Read more about Christmas Proper 1: Christmas For All From Below, with Danielle Shroyer #LectioCast

Danielle Shroyer joins the show to discuss the history of Original Sin, the importance of starting in Genesis one instead of Genesis three, Gospel, and her new book Original Blessing. For more on this month’s sponsor The Deborah Club click here.

RESOURCES REFERENCED:Where Jesus Prayed by Danielle Shroyer (and Lacy's current Journey Book Club selection!)Prayers of the PeoplePop ResourcesThe Brilliance, “Prayer of the People,” from the new album, BrotherBetter Life BagsNoonday CollectionKiva Micro-LoansSama GroupRevised Common Lectionary Google CalendarL'Arche InternationalGO FURTHERHow do you give? Has our conversation inspired new and creative ways to give? About Sacred Ordinary Days with Jenn Giles Kemper: Sacred Ordinary Days with Jenn Giles Kemper explores faith where it hits the pavement of work, relationships, creativity, and real life. Inspired by Jenn's curiosity and faith (and her work as a minister and spiritual director) we're crafting a show to help you meaningfully explore your own life with Christ — and ultimately lead you to become more wholly human and more fully faithful. On Tuesdays, join us for a conversation with folks whose words, work, and witness have shaped our team's understanding of God and practice of faith. (Plus, we're featuring lots of good music, prompts for your reflection and practice, and plenty of invitations into a community of kindred spirits!)Find us on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. We appreciate your ratings and reviews, too.

In this conversation Danielle and I discuss religion, social change, and finding our best selves.

Danielle Shroyer wraps up her four-week stint by challenging us on privilege, empowerment, and trust while working through the texts for Proper 18. A theme emerges about entrusting ourselves to God’s economy of abundance, with its call for lives of generosity. James 2: Favoritism. James’s warning about favoritism gets contextualized into a world of (white)… Read more about Entrusting Ourselves to Abundance and Generosity #LectioCast

Danielle Shroyer brings her keen eye for the boundary-breaking God to a series of texts that show us how difficult God is to contain. John 6 continues to challenge us, we try to turn our offense back around on ourselves, and we reflect on the significance of the Temple for a post-Temple people. John 6… Read more about Beware the Boundary Breaking God #LectioCast

Danielle Shroyer joins Daniel Kirk to bring some much needed pastoral insight to the running theme of wisdom. Solomon gets it—for wanting what Adam and Eve grasped after in the Garden. Where do we find the wisdom to get over our aversion to naming God as worthy of praise? Can we find the path of… Read more about Wisdom: Solomon Got It, We Need It #LectioCast