Podcasts about rue mcclanahan

Welcome to another “Minisode” – where we zoom in on individual moments or facets of rejection we've come across in our research. This week, we talk about the golden piece of advice Rue McClanahan's mother gave her when she was told she'd never make it in television. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This episode features excerpts from the February 8th performance of Dennis Hensley's The MisMatch Game at the Los Angeles LGBT Center's Renberg Theatre. The panelists are Danny Casillas as Reba Areba, Jackie Beat as Bea Arthur, Sherry Vine as Rue McClanahan, Melissa Peterman as Rena Z., Felix Pire as Antonio Banderas and Tom Lenk as Tilda Swinton. The questions cover everyone from Jonathan Bailey to Betty White to Benson Boone. The evening was a bizonkers blast and raised over $4,100 for the Center. After the MisMatch Game clips, there's a super-sized So This Happened...where Dennis talks about the Oscar party he attended where he missed a trivia question about Centerstage, a delightful candle-making class he took at General Wax in North Hollywood, going dancing at the Kylie XCX night at Precinct hosted by past guests Mark Nubar and DJ Shyboy and attending the 25th Anniversary benefit screening of Coyote Ugly with most of the cast in attendance. It was true in 2000 and it's true today: you really can't fight the moonlight. 

Todays co-host is Angel Giacomo, Author, The Jackson Mackenzie book series  https://thejacksonmackenziechronicles.godaddysites.com/    You can also check Angel out on Goodreadsreads   https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/20447913.Angel_GiacomoNational Sticky Buns day. Entertainment from 1974. Washington Monument completed, Alka Seltzer went on sale, NASCAR founded. Todays birthdays - Rue McClanahan, Alan Rickman, Tyne Daly, William Petersen, Kelsey Grammer, Mary Chapin Carpenter, Billy Baldwin, Jennifer Love Hewitt. Billy Graham died.Intro - God did good - Diana Corcoran   https://www.diannacorcoran.com/Sticky Bun - KidzonePillow talk - ZaynHome alone tonight - Luke Bryan  Karen FaircdhildAlka Seltzer commercialBirthdays - In da club - 50 Cent http://50cent.com/Golden Girls TV themeCSI TV themeFrazier TV themeDown at the twist and shout - Mary Chapin CarpenterHow do I deal - Jennifer Love HewittExit - Waffle House - Bobby Coolcountryundergroundradio.comcooolmedia.com

H. Alan Scott/Sadie Pines and Kerri Doherty watch Rue McClanahan play a hoity toity version of Blanche Devereaux in a season 1 episode of "Touched by an Angel." They discuss why parts of the episode felt like The Golden Girls, the creepy music sting played whenever an angel does magic, and if angels are just not-scary-ghosts.  Watch the episode HERE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk2wHtZhLJ0 Join the GG VIP Club at Patreon.com/GoldenGirlsPodcast Watch video versions of the podcast on YouTube.com/OutonTheLanai For more Golden Girls greatness, visit OutOnTheLanai.com and follow us at... instagram.com/OutOnTheLanaiOfficial facebook.com/GoldenGirlsPodcast twitter.com/GoldenGirlsPod FOLLOW H. ALAN SCOTT/SADIE PINES... instagram.com/SadiePines instagram.com/HAlanScott linktr.ee/HAlanScott FOLLOW KERRI DOHERTY... instagram.com/squidsy twitter.com/SquidEatSquid Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

H. Alan Scott/Sadie Pines and Kerri Doherty revisit The Golden Girls season 2 premiere episode "End of the Curse!" They discuss why Rue McClanahan deserved her Emmy, the possible meaning behind Blanche wearing all-white, and how pregnancy tests work (at least how *we* think they work.)  Join the GG VIP Club at Patreon.com/GoldenGirlsPodcast Watch video versions of the podcast on YouTube.com/OutonTheLanai For more Golden Girls greatness, visit OutOnTheLanai.com and follow us at... instagram.com/OutOnTheLanaiOfficial facebook.com/GoldenGirlsPodcast twitter.com/GoldenGirlsPod FOLLOW H. ALAN SCOTT/SADIE PINES... instagram.com/SadiePines instagram.com/HAlanScott linktr.ee/HAlanScott FOLLOW KERRI DOHERTY... instagram.com/squidsy twitter.com/SquidEatSquid Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On March 16, 1974, a sketch appeared on The Carol Burnett Show featuring Carol Burnett, Vicki Lawrence and Harvey Korman portraying a “normal” American family -- warts and all. This sketch, known as “The Family”, led by a then 25 year-old Vicki Lawrence playing a gray-haired 63 year-old ‘Mama', spawned 30 more sketches, a TV Movie (Eunice) and finally a spin-off series of its own (Mama's Family) which ran for 130 episodes over six seasons both on CBS and in syndication (1983-1990).In “The Family”, Carol Burnett played the melodramatic, ambitious, brow-beaten daughter of ‘Mama'. Mama, played by Vicki Lawrence, is an exaggeratedly mean-spirited and insult-spitting widow and mother of five children: three sons played by guest stars Roddy McDowell, Alan Alda and Tom Smothers -- and two daughters: Eunice & Ellen (played by Betty White). Eunice's husband Ed Higgins was played by Harvey Korman.How did one simple sketch take on such a huge life of its own, creating a sprawling TV empire that some are calling “The Mama-Verse”? Susan and Sharon put on their housecoats and curly gray wigs to find out!THE CONVERSATIONCarol Burnett's career started with a Broadway role starring as the lead in Once Upon a Mattress and then as a rising star on The Garry Moore Show.The Carol Burnett Show was hugely successful, running eleven seasons, garnering 70 Emmy nominations and winning 25.Carol Burnett was encouraged to “speak up for herself” by another TV comedy legend -- Lucille Ball.A fan letter from then 18 year-old Vicki Lawrence to Carol Burnett led to her actually being cast as a regular on the show!“HARVARD SCHOOL OF COMEDY”: Lawrence cites Harvey Korman and Carol Burnett as her show business mentors during the 11 years she spent on the show.ONE-HIT WONDER: Five years into her run on The Carol Burnett Show, Lawrence had a hit song, recording “The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia”!In the TV movie Eunice, Mama suddenly only has three children instead of five -- what happened to the others? And why is one of them suddenly Ken Berry?Vicki Lawrence was nominated for an Emmy for her portrayal of ‘Mama' in Eunice.The TV series Mama's Family was aired first as a prime-time network comedy and later as a nationally syndicated series. It originally ran for two years on CBS, was cancelled in 1984 -- and then revived TWO YEARS LATER in 1986 by Lorimar Syndication to run for additional 100 episodes!NAME SWITCH: The character Ken Berry played started out as “Phillip” in the TV-movie but then became “Vinton” in the TV series.The TV show introduced “Fran” played by future Golden Girl, Rue McClanahan -- playing Betty White's aunt!The TV show also introduced Vinton's children Buzz and Sonya played by “80's TV Ladies” alum, Eric Brown and actress Karin Argoud.Mama's neighbor, Naomi Oates, was played by “Another World” “The Nanny” and now “80s TV Ladies” alum, Dorothy Lyman!So join Susan and Sharon as they talk Lou Grant, social justice, Julie Andrews and the first Live Televised Cinderella musical, “Raytown, Missouri”, Kamala Harris, Matlock, driving your own story -- and “Miss Fireball of Inglewood”!AUDIO-OGRAPHYWatch The Carol Burnett Show and Mama's Family across many platforms. Not all of them feature all seasons. The Carol Burnett Show can be seen for free on Pluto TV. Mama's Family can be seen for free on Pluto TV.The Carol Burnett Show “The Family” select episodes:S7, EP23 - Aired 3/16/1974 - Jackson Five and Roddy McDowall.The first of “The Family” sketches. “The Reunion  - Eunice's brother Phil (Roddy McDowall), a Nobel and Pulitzer prize winning author, returns home for a visit. On YouTube.S8, EP13 - Aired 12/21/1974 - Alan Alda“Home for the Holidays”Christmas sketch with Alan Alda on YouTube. VITAL READINGGet Handbook for A Post-Roe America by Robin Marty at Bookshop.org.Check out Men In Dark Times by Hannah Ahrendt at Bookshop.org.Read Democracy Awakening by Heather Cox Richardson at Bookshop.org.You can also follow Heather's substack.SHOPLAST WEEK FOR THE “80's TV LADIES” HOLIDAY SALE!15% off on all merch at the 8TL Shop. Make sure to use promo code “Festive80s”!CONNECTVisit 80sTVLadies.com for transcripts and more.Sign up for the 80s TV Ladies mailing list.Support us and get ad-free episodes on PATREON. In Honor of President Carter and to learn more about his presidency: Get Susan's new play about him and his Crisis of Confidence speech: Confidence (and the Speech) at Broadway Licensing.

Chelsea and producer Kristina Lopez hold space for a few hot topics, from a viral “Wicked” moment to Megan Thee Stallion's powerful documentary, “In Her Words.” They reminisce about the “Golden Girls” moments that shaped their lives before diving into an encore of the episode on Rue McClanahan's 2008 memoir, “My First Five Husbands ... and the Ones Who Got Away” featuring guest Sofiya Alexandra. A must-listen rerun with a brand-new treat! A content warning: This episode contains discussions of sensitive topics, including domestic violence, suicide, and abuse. Take care while listening and find helpful resources here. Where to order Chelsea's book: Bookshop.org  Find other places to order Follow Chelsea: Instagram @chelseadevantez Join the cookie community: Become a member of the Patreon Show Notes: Megan Thee Stallion's “In Her Words” documentary Megan Thee Stallion's 2020 BET Awards Performance Wicked “Holding Space” interview with Out Magazine TikTok - ScarJo Holding Space (for her Skincare Line) Tiktok - Holding Space at Mac Cosmetics “Wicked” Stars Ariana Grande & Cynthia Erivo Break Down Viral 'Holding Space' Interview (Variety) Betty White Memoir Episode Lauren Bacall Memoir Episode Lucille Ball Memoir Episode Where to find our Guest: Kristina Lopez Instagram *** Glamorous Trash is all about going high and low at the same time— Glam and Trash. We recap and book club celebrity memoirs, deconstruct pop culture, and sometimes, we cry! If you've ever referenced Mariah Carey in therapy... then this is the podcast for you. Thank you to our sponsors: Visit Brooklinen.com and use code TRASH to get $20 off your order of $100 or more. Libro.fm - Click here to get 2 audiobooks for the price of 1 with your first month of membership using code TRASH. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

H. Alan Scott/Sadie Pines and Kerri Doherty watch Bea Arthur and Rue McClanahan shine in the delightfully festive season 4 episode of Maude titled, "The Christmas Party." They discuss Rue's dress that was giving Wicked vibes, awkward moments at holiday parties, and why Santa's suit should always be filthy.  Watch "The Christmas Party on YouTube. Join the GG VIP Club at Patreon.com/GoldenGirlsPodcast Watch video versions of the podcast on YouTube.com/OutonTheLanai For more Golden Girls greatness, visit OutOnTheLanai.com and follow us at... instagram.com/OutOnTheLanaiOfficial facebook.com/GoldenGirlsPodcast twitter.com/GoldenGirlsPod FOLLOW H. ALAN SCOTT/SADIE PINES... instagram.com/SadiePines instagram.com/HAlanScott linktr.ee/HAlanScott FOLLOW KERRI DOHERTY... instagram.com/squidsy twitter.com/SquidEatSquid Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I was the highest paid actor in Hollywood -- if you were counting by the word.”           - actor Eric Brown THE CONVERSATIONTAKING THE PIPPIN BUS: Nine-year-old Eric played the lead in the original touring company of Bob Fosse's Pippin! “It was 1974. I was the only child in a cast of adults. One-and-two-night stands. In a bus. Thirty states. Six months.”PRIVATE LESSONS: The lead got fired -- so Eric was promoted to star!15 GOING ON 30: In Private Lessons, Fifteen year-old Eric Brown, played a fifteen-year-old -- being seduced by a thirty-year-old woman! “My wife is still mad at my mother for letting me play that role!”KICKED OUT OF SCHOOL: Eric was kicked out of St. Francis Prep School for being in Private Lessons: “They said, “We think you'd do better at another school considering your career goals.” It was a very Franciscan way of saying, “Get out”.”MAMA'S FAMILY: “You know the rumors that Betty White had a dirty streak? All true.”On working with Carol Burnett, Vicki Lawrence, Dorothy Lyman, Betty White, Rue McClanahan and Harvey Korman: “Everyone was so funny -- you were always laughing. They were constantly futzing, because they knew what was funny -- and if it wasn't, they would fix it."DIRECTOR SPLIT: Mama's Family had TWO directors: Harvey Korman worked with the actors, while someone else blocked out the camera moves (Roger Beatty).THE METAVERSE OF MAMA'S FAMILY: Vicki Lawrence started playing the at least 63-year-old “Mama” when she was in her late 20's!THE EPISODE THAT NEVER WAS: Eric pitched an episode where he and Ken Barry -- both tap dancers -- could dance together in a talent show.  But it never happened.TAKE THE TOUPEE: Carol Burnett would do anything for a laugh -- including pulling the hairpiece off a certain co-star during taping -- when no one was expecting it!BAD NEWS, GOOD NEWS, WORSE NEWS -- Mama's Family gets cancelled.  Then it comes back!  But not with Eric.LOVING LAURA HOLT: After Private Lessons, Eric did a replay on Remington Steele -- playing a kid with a crush on an “older woman”: “I was head over heels in love with Stephanie Zimbalist. In real life!”BE KIND, REWIND: After jobs dried up in Hollywood, Eric moved to Monterey and got a job in a video store: “I was renting movies to people that I WAS IN.”FIRST RULE OF COMMUNICATION: For the MacArthur Foundation or a lost chicken in Queens: Know your goal.WHAT CAN ONE PERSON DO TO HELP THE WORLD? Find what you love and offer that.So, join Susan and Sharon -- and Eric -- as they talk Listerine commercials, the Clinton campaign, Jon de Bont, Sarah Jessica Parker, Howard Hessman, Barry Williams, On Golden Pond, Ian Ziering, curfew “double standards”, working with women directors, Jerry Reed, Emmanuelle, Fred Willard -- and evil twins!  AUDIO-OGRAPHYWatch Mama's Family for free on Pluto TV.Listen to Eric Brown's podcast about philanthropy, Let's Hear it. Or on Apple. Check out what Eric Brown is doing now at Brownbridgestrategies.com.Enjoy Eric's blog about traveling the world with his wife at Eat, Bicker, Love.PLUS -- AN “80's TV LADIES” HOLIDAY SALE!Get 15% off on all merch at 80s TV Ladies Shop on Fourthwall.Make sure to use promo code “Festive80s”!  CONNECTVisit 80sTVLadies.com for transcripts.Sign up for the 80s TV Ladies mailing list.Support us and get ad-free episodes on PATREON.This year is the 45th anniversary of President Carter's Crisis of Confidence speech. Get Susan's new play about it: Confidence (and the Speech) at Broadway Licensing. 

H. Alan Scott/Sadie Pines and Kerri Doherty watch the 1995 made-for-TV movie "A Holiday to Remember," starring Rue McClanahan as the opposite of Blanche Devereaux. They discuss Rue's plentiful hat collection, Randy Travis's awful acting chops, and the general store owner who sounded way too much like Al Pacino. Watch "A Holiday to Remember" on YouTube. Join the GG VIP Club at Patreon.com/GoldenGirlsPodcast Watch video versions of the podcast on YouTube.com/OutonTheLanai For more Golden Girls greatness, visit OutOnTheLanai.com and follow us at... instagram.com/OutOnTheLanaiOfficial facebook.com/GoldenGirlsPodcast twitter.com/GoldenGirlsPod FOLLOW H. ALAN SCOTT/SADIE PINES... instagram.com/SadiePines instagram.com/HAlanScott linktr.ee/HAlanScott FOLLOW KERRI DOHERTY... instagram.com/squidsy twitter.com/SquidEatSquid Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Erotic Thriller Club has yet again set a new bar for the weirdest movie we've watched so far! Billy Zane and Gina Gershon as incestuous, murderous twin is truly something to behold. Believe it or not, this movie is a COMEDY! From the opening scene this movie is an absolute roller coaster ride from hell!

H. Alan Scott/Sadie Pines and Kerri Doherty watch Rue McClanahan's guest star appearance in a 2003 episode of the short-lived NBC sitcom, Whoopi! They discuss Rue's subtle "high" acting, why the episode had too many messages, and how the Golden Girls would have behaved after smoking a ton of weed.  Vote to make the Golden Girls LEGO set a reality: https://ideas.lego.com/projects/591a5b3f-11b8-4276-be37-4dbd89e43a1e Join the GG VIP Club at Patreon.com/GoldenGirlsPodcast Watch video versions of the podcast on YouTube.com/OutonTheLanai For more Golden Girls greatness, visit OutOnTheLanai.com and follow us at... instagram.com/OutOnTheLanaiOfficial facebook.com/GoldenGirlsPodcast twitter.com/GoldenGirlsPod FOLLOW H. ALAN SCOTT/SADIE PINES... instagram.com/SadiePines instagram.com/HAlanScott linktr.ee/HAlanScott FOLLOW KERRI DOHERTY... instagram.com/squidsy twitter.com/SquidEatSquid Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on the blog, a podcast interview with playwright and screenwriter Jeffrey Hatcher on Columbo, Sherlock Holmes, favorite mysteries and more!LINKSA Free Film Book for You: https://dl.bookfunnel.com/cq23xyyt12Another Free Film Book: https://dl.bookfunnel.com/x3jn3emga6Fast, Cheap Film Website: https://www.fastcheapfilm.com/Jeffrey Hatcher Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/jeffrey.hatcher.3/The Good Liar (Trailer): https://youtu.be/ljKzFGpPHhwMr. Holmes (Trailer): https://youtu.be/0G1lIBgk4PAStage Beauty (Trailer): https://youtu.be/-uc6xEBfdD0Columbo Clips from “Ashes to Ashes”Clip One: https://youtu.be/OCKECiaFsMQClip Two: https://youtu.be/BbO9SDz9FEcClip Three: https://youtu.be/GlNDAVAwMCIEli Marks Website: https://www.elimarksmysteries.com/Albert's Bridge Books Website: https://www.albertsbridgebooks.com/YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/BehindthePageTheEliMarksPodcastTRANSCRIPTJohn: Can you remember your very first mystery, a movie, book, TV show, play, a mystery that really captured your imagination? Jeffrey: You know, I was thinking about this, and what came to mind was a Disney movie called Emile and the Detectives from 1964. So, I would have been six or seven years old. It's based on a series of German books by Eric Kastner about a young man named Emile and his group of friends who think of themselves as detectives. So, I remember that—I know that might've been the first film. And obviously it's not a play because, you know, little kids don't tend to go to stage thrillers or mysteries and, “Daddy, please take me to Sleuth.But there was a show called Burke's Law that I really loved. Gene Barry played Captain Amos Burke of the Homicide Division in Los Angeles, and he was very rich. That was the bit. The bit was that Captain Burke drove around in a gorgeous Rolls Royce Silver Ghost, and he had a chauffeur. And every mystery was structured classically as a whodunit.In fact, I think every title of every episode was “Who Killed Cock Robin?” “Who Killed Johnny Friendly?” that kind of thing. And they would have a cast of well-known Hollywood actors, so they were all of equal status. Because I always think that's one of the easiest ways to guess the killer is if it's like: Unknown Guy, Unknown Guy, Derek Jacobi, Unknown Guy, Unknown Guy. It's always going to be Derek Jacobi. John: Yeah, it's true. I remember that show. He was really cool. Jim: Well, now I'm going to have to look that up.Jeffrey: It had a great score, and he would gather all of the suspects, you know, at the end of the thing. I think my favorite was when he caught Paul Lynde as a murderer. And, of course, Paul Lynde, you know, kept it very low key when he was dragged off. He did his Alice Ghostly impersonation as he was taken away.John: They did have very similar vocal patterns, those two.Jeffrey: Yep. They're kind of the exact same person. Jim: I never saw them together. John: You might have on Bewitched. Jim: You're probably right.Jeffrey: Well, I might be wrong about this, either Alice Ghostly or Charlotte Ray went to school with Paul Lynde. And Charlotte Ray has that same sound too. You know, kind of warbly thing. Yes. I think they all went to Northwestern in the late 40s and early 50s. So maybe that was a way that they taught actors back then. John: They learned it all from Marion Horne, who had the very same warble in her voice. So, as you got a little older, were there other mysteries that you were attracted to?Jeffrey: Yeah. Luckily, my parents were very liberal about letting me see things that other people probably shouldn't have. I remember late in elementary school, fifth grade or so, I was reading Casino Royale. And one of the teachers said, “Well, you know, most kids, we wouldn't want to have read this, but it's okay if you do.”And I thought, what's that? And I'm so not dangerous; other kids are, well they would be affected oddly by James Bond? But yeah, I, I love spy stuff. You know, The Man from Uncle and The Wild Wild West, all those kind of things. I love James Bond. And very quickly I started reading the major mysteries. I think probably the first big book that I remember, the first novel, was The Hound of the Baskervilles. That's probably an entrance point for a lot of kids. So that's what comes in mind immediately. Jim: I certainly revisit that on—if not yearly basis, at least every few years I will reread The Hound of the Baskervilles. Love that story. That's good. Do you have, Jeffrey, favorite mystery fiction writers?Jeffrey: Oh, sure. But none of them are, you know, bizarre Japanese, Santa Domingo kind of writers that people always pull out of their back pockets to prove how cool they are. I mean, they're the usual suspects. Conan Doyle and Christie and Chandler and Hammett, you know, all of those. John Dickson Carr, all the locked room mysteries, that kind of thing. I can't say that I go very far off in one direction or another to pick up somebody who's completely bizarre. But if you go all the way back, I love reading Wilkie Collins.I've adapted at least one Wilkie Collins, and they read beautifully. You know, terrifically put together, and they've got a lot of blood and thunder to them. I think he called them sensation novels as opposed to mysteries, but they always have some mystery element. And he was, you know, a close friend of Charles Dickens and Dickens said that there were some things that Collins taught him about construction. In those days, they would write their novels in installments for magazines. So, you know, the desire or the need, frankly, to create a cliffhanger at the end of every episode or every chapter seems to have been born then from a capitalist instinct. John: Jeff, I know you studied acting. What inspired the move into playwriting?Jeffrey: I don't think I was a very good actor. I was the kind of actor who always played older, middle aged or older characters in college and high school, like Judge Brack in Hedda Gabler, those kind of people. My dream back in those days was to play Dr. Dysart in Equus and Andrew Wyke in Sleuth. So, I mean, that was my target. And then I moved to New York, and I auditioned for things and casting directors would say, “Well, you know, we actually do have 50 year old actors in New York and we don't need to put white gunk in their hair or anything like that. So, why don't you play your own age, 22 or 23?” And I was not very good at playing 22 or 23. But I'd always done some writing, and a friend of mine, Graham Slayton, who was out at the Playwrights Center here, and we'd gone to college together. He encouraged me to write a play, you know, write one act, and then write a full length. So, I always say this, I think most people go into the theater to be an actor, you know, probably 98%, and then bit by bit, we, you know, we peel off. We either leave the profession completely or we become directors, designers, writers, what have you. So, I don't think it's unnatural what I did. It's very rare to be like a Tom Stoppard who never wanted to act. It's a lot more normal to find the Harold Pinter who, you know, acted a lot in regional theaters in England before he wrote The Caretaker.Jim: Fascinating. Can we talk about Columbo?Jeffrey: Oh, yes, please. Jim: This is where I am so tickled pink for this conversation, because I was a huge and am a huge Peter Falk Columbo fan. I went back and watched the episode Ashes To Ashes, with Patrick McGowan that you created. Tell us how that came about. Jeffrey: I too was a huge fan of Columbo in the 70s. I remember for most of its run, it was on Sunday nights. It was part of that murder mystery wheel with things like Hec Ramsey and McCloud, right? But Columbo was the best of those, obviously. Everything, from the structure—the inverted mystery—to thw guest star of the week. Sometimes it was somebody very big and exciting, like Donald Pleasence or Ruth Gordon, but often it was slightly TV stars on the skids.John: Jack Cassidy, Jim: I was just going to say Jack Cassidy.Jeffrey: But at any rate, yeah, I loved it. I loved it. I remembered in high school, a friend and I doing a parody of Columbo where he played Columbo and I played the murderer of the week. And so many years later, when they rebooted the show in the nineties, my father died and I spent a lot of time at the funeral home with the funeral director. And having nothing to say to the funeral director one day, I said, “Have you got the good stories?”And he told me all these great stories about, you know, bodies that weren't really in the casket and what you can't cremate, et cetera. So, I suddenly had this idea of a Hollywood funeral director to the stars. And, via my agent, I knew Dan Luria, the actor. He's a close friend or was a close friend of Peter's. And so, he was able to take this one-page idea and show it to Peter. And then, one day, I get a phone call and it's, “Uh, hello Jeff, this is Peter Falk calling. I want to talk to you about your idea.” And they flew me out there. It was great fun, because Falk really ran the show. He was the executive producer at that point. He always kind of ran the show. I think he only wrote one episode, the one with Faye Dunaway, but he liked the idea.I spent a lot of time with him, I'd go to his house where he would do his drawings back in the studio and all that. But what he said he liked about it was he liked a new setting, they always liked a murderer and a setting that was special, with clues that are connected to, say, the murderer's profession. So, the Donald Pleasant one about the wine connoisseur and all the clues are about wine. Or the Dick Van Dyke one, where he's a photographer and most of the clues are about photography. So, he really liked that. And he said, “You gotta have that first clue and you gotta have the pop at the end.”So, and we worked on the treatment and then I wrote the screenplay. And then he asked McGoohan if he would do it, and McGoohan said, “Well, if I can direct it too.” And, you know, I've adored McGoohan from, you know, Secret Agent and The Prisoner. I mean, I'd say The Prisoner is like one of my favorite television shows ever. So, the idea that the two of them were going to work together on that script was just, you know, it was incredible. John: Were you able to be there during production at all? Jeffrey: No, I went out there about four times to write, because it took like a year or so. It was a kind of laborious process with ABC and all that, but I didn't go out during the shooting.Occasionally, this was, you know, the days of faxes, I'd get a phone call: “Can you redo something here?” And then I'd fax it out. So, I never met McGoohan. I would only fax with him. But they built this whole Hollywood crematorium thing on the set. And Falk was saying at one point, “I'm getting pushback from Universal that we've got to do all this stuff. We've got to build everything.” And I was saying, “Well, you know, 60 percent of the script takes place there. If you're going to try to find a funeral home like it, you're going to have all that hassle.” And eventually they made the point that, yeah, to build this is going to cost less than searching around Hollywood for the right crematorium, And it had a great cast, you know, it had Richard Libertini and Sally Kellerman, and Rue McClanahan was our murder victim.Jim: I'll tell you every scene that Peter Falk and Mr. McGoohan had together. They looked to me as an actor, like they were having a blast being on together. Jeffrey: They really loved each other. They first met when McGoohan did that episode, By Dawn's Early Light, where he played the head of the military school. It's a terrific episode. It was a great performance. And although their acting styles are completely different, You know, Falk much more, you know, fifties, methody, shambolic. And McGoohan very, you know, his voice cracking, you know, and very affected and brittle. But they really loved each other and they liked to throw each other curveballs.There are things in the, in the show that are ad libs that they throw. There's one bit, I think it's hilarious. It's when Columbo tells the murderer that basically knows he did it, but he doesn't have a way to nail him. And, McGoohan is saying, “So then I suppose you have no case, do you?” And Falk says, “Ah, no, sir, I don't.” And he walks right off camera, you know, like down a hallway. And McGoohan stares off and says, “Have you gone?” And none of that was scripted. Peter just walks off set. And if you watch the episode, they had to dub in McGoohan saying, “Have you gone,” because the crew was laughing at the fact that Peter just strolled away. So McGoohan adlibs that and then they had to cover it later to make sure the sound wasn't screwed up. Jim: Fantastic. John: Kudos to you for that script, because every piece is there. Every clue is there. Everything pays off. It's just it is so tight, and it has that pop at the end that he wanted. It's really an excellent, excellent mystery.Jim: And a terrific closing line. Terrific closing line. Jeffrey: Yeah, that I did right. That was not an ad lib. Jim: It's a fantastic moment. And he, Peter Falk, looks just almost right at the camera and delivers that line as if it's, Hey, check this line out. It was great. Enjoyed every minute of it. Can we, um, can I ask some questions about Sherlock Holmes now?Jeffrey: Oh, yes. Jim: So, I enjoyed immensely Holmes and Watson that I saw a couple summers ago at Park Square. I was completely riveted and had no, absolutely no idea how it was going to pay off or who was who or what. And when it became clear, it was so much fun for me as an audience member. So I know that you have done a number of Holmes adaptations.There's Larry Millet, a St. Paul writer here and I know you adapted him, but as far as I can tell this one, pillar to post was all you. This wasn't an adaptation. You created this out of whole cloth. Am I right on that? Jeffrey: Yes. The, the idea came from doing the Larry Millet one, actually, because Steve Hendrickson was playing Holmes. And on opening night—the day of opening night—he had an aortic aneurysm, which they had to repair. And so, he wasn't able to do the show. And Peter Moore, the director, he went in and played Holmes for a couple of performances. And then I played Holmes for like three performances until Steve could get back. But in the interim, we've sat around saying, “All right, who can we get to play the role for like a week?” And we thought about all of the usual suspects, by which I mean, tall, ascetic looking actors. And everybody was booked, everybody was busy. Nobody could do it. So that's why Peter did it, and then I did it.But it struck me in thinking about casting Holmes, that there are a bunch of actors that you would say, you are a Holmes type. You are Sherlock Holmes. And it suddenly struck me, okay, back in the day, if Holmes were real, if he died—if he'd gone over to the falls of Reichenbach—people probably showed up and say, “Well, I'm Sherlock Holmes.”So, I thought, well, let's take that idea of casting Holmes to its logical conclusion: That a couple of people would come forward and say, “I'm Sherlock Holmes,” and then we'd wrap it together into another mystery. And we're sitting around—Bob Davis was playing Watson. And I said, “So, maybe, they're all in a hospital and Watson has to come to figure out which is which. And Bob said, “Oh, of course, Watson's gonna know which one is Holmes.”And that's what immediately gave me the idea for the twist at the end, why Watson wouldn't know which one was Holmes. So, I'm very grateful whenever an idea comes quickly like that, but it depends on Steve getting sick usually. Jim: Well, I thoroughly enjoyed it. If it's ever staged again anywhere, I will go. There was so much lovely about that show, just in terms of it being a mystery. And I'm a huge Sherlock Holmes fan. I don't want to give too much away in case people are seeing this at some point, but when it starts to be revealed—when Pierce's character starts talking about the reviews that he got in, in the West End—I I almost wet myself with laughter. It was so perfectly delivered and well written. I had just a great time at the theater that night. Jeffrey: It's one of those things where, well, you know how it is. You get an idea for something, and you pray to God that nobody else has done it. And I couldn't think of anybody having done this bit. I mean, some people have joked and said, it's kind of To Tell the Truth, isn't it? Because you have three people who come on and say, “I'm Sherlock Holmes.” “I'm Sherlock Holmes.” “I'm Sherlock Holmes.” Now surely somebody has done this before, but Nobody had. Jim: Well, it's wonderful. John: It's all in the timing. So, what is the, what's the hardest part about adapting Holmes to this stage?Jeffrey: Well, I suppose from a purist point of view‑by which I mean people like the Baker Street Irregulars and other organizations like that, the Norwegian Explorers here in Minnesota‑is can you fit your own‑they always call them pastiches, even if they're not comic‑can you fit your own Holmes pastiche into the canon?People spend a lot of time working out exactly where Holmes and Watson were on any given day between 1878 and 1930. So, one of the nice things about Holmes and Watson was, okay, so we're going to make it take place during the three-year interregnum when Holmes is pretending to be dead. And it works if you fit Holmes and Watson in between The Final Problem and The Adventure of the Empty House, it works. And that's hard to do. I would say, I mean, I really love Larry Millett's book and all that, but I'm sure it doesn't fit, so to speak. But that's up to you to care. If you're not a purist, you can fiddle around any old way you like. But I think it's kind of great to, to, to have the, the BSI types, the Baker Street Irregular types say, “Yes, this clicked into place.”Jim: So that's the most difficult thing. What's the easiest part?Jeffrey: Well, I think it's frankly the language, the dialogue. Somebody pointed out that Holmes is the most dramatically depicted character in history. More than Robin Hood, more than Jesus Christ. There are more actor versions of Holmes than any other fictional character.We've been surrounded by Holmes speak. Either if we've read the books or seen the movies or seen any of the plays for over 140 years. Right. So, in a way, if you're like me, you kind of absorb that language by osmosis. So, for some reason, it's very easy for me to click into the way I think Holmes talks. That very cerebral, very fast, sometimes complicated syntax. That I find probably the easiest part. Working out the plots, you want them to be Holmesian. You don't want them to be plots from, you know, don't want the case to be solved in a way that Sam Spade would, or Philip Marlowe would. And that takes a little bit of work. But for whatever reason, it's the actor in you, it's saying, all right, if you have to ad lib or improv your way of Sherlock Holmes this afternoon, you know, you'd be able to do it, right? I mean, he really has permeated our culture, no matter who the actor is.Jim: Speaking of great actors that have played Sherlock Holmes, you adapted a movie that Ian McKellen played, and I just watched it recently in preparation for this interview.Having not seen it before, I was riveted by it. His performance is terrific and heartbreaking at the same time. Can we talk about that? How did you come to that project? And just give us everything.Jeffrey: Well, it's based on a book called A Slight Trick of the Mind by Mitch Cullen, and it's about a very old Sherlock Holmes in Surrey, tending to his bees, as people in Holmesland know that he retired to do. And it involves a couple of cases, one in Japan and one about 20 years earlier in his life that he's trying to remember. And it also has to do with his relationship with his housekeeper and the housekeeper's son. The book was given to me by Anne Carey, the producer, and I worked on it probably off and on for about five years.A lot of time was spent talking about casting, because you had to have somebody play very old. I remember I went to meet with Ralph Fiennes once because we thought, well, Ralph Fiennes could play him at his own age,‑then probably his forties‑and with makeup in the nineties.And Ralph said‑Ralph was in another film that I'd done‑and he said, “Oh, I don't wear all that makeup. That's just far too much.” And I said, “Well, you did in Harry Potter and The English Patient, you kind of looked like a melted candle.” And he said, “Yes, and I don't want to do that again.” So, we always had a very short list of actors, probably like six actors in the whole world And McKellen was one of them and we waited for him to become available And yeah, he was terrific. I'll tell you one funny story: One day, he had a lot of prosthetics, not a lot, but enough. He wanted to build up his cheekbones and his nose a bit. He wanted a bit, he thought his own nose was a bit too potatoish. So, he wanted a more Roman nose. So, he was taking a nap one day between takes. And they brought him in, said, “Ian, it's time for you to do the, this scene,” and he'd been sleeping, I guess, on one side, and his fake cheek and his nose had moved up his face. But he hadn't looked in the mirror, and he didn't know. So he came on and said, “Very well, I'm all ready to go.” And it was like Quasimodo.It's like 5:52 and they're supposed to stop shooting at six. And there was a mad panic of, Fix Ian's face! Get that cheekbone back where it's supposed to be! Knock that nose into place! A six o'clock, we go into overtime!” But it was very funny that he hadn't noticed it. You kind of think you'd feel if your own nose or cheekbone had been crushed, but of course it was a makeup. So, he didn't feel anything. Jim: This is just the, uh, the actor fan boy in me. I'm an enormous fan of his work straight across the board. Did you have much interaction with him and what kind of fella is he just in general?Jeffrey: He's a hoot. Bill Condon, the director, said, “Ian is kind of methody. So, when you see him on set, he'll be very decorous, you know, he'll be kind of like Sherlock Holmes.” And it was true, he goes, “Oh, Jeffrey Hatcher, it's very good to meet you.” And he was kind of slow talking, all that. Ian was like 72 then, so he wasn't that old. But then when it was all over, they were doing all those--remember those ice Dumps, where people dump a tub of ice on you? You have these challenges? A the end of shooting, they had this challenge, and Ian comes out in short shorts, and a bunch of ballet dancers surrounds him. And he's like, “Alright, everyone, let's do the ice challenge.” And, he turned into this bright dancer. He's kind of a gay poster boy, you know, ever since he was one of the most famous coming out of the last 20 some years. So, you know, he was suddenly bright and splashy and, you know, all that old stuff dropped away. He has all of his headgear at his house and his townhouse. He had a party for us at the end of shooting. And so, there's a Gandalf's weird hat and there's Magneto's helmet, you know, along with top hats and things like that. And they're all kind of lined up there. And then people in the crew would say, can I take a picture of you as Gandalf? “Well, why, of course,” and he does all that stuff. So no, he's wonderful. Jim: You do a very good impression as well. That was great. Now, how did you come to the project, The Good Liar, which again, I watched in preparation for this and was mesmerized by the whole thing, especially the mystery part of it, the ending, it was brilliant.How did you come to that project?Jeffrey: Well, again, it was a book and Warner Brothers had the rights to it. And because Bill and I had worked on Mr. Holmes--Bill Condon--Bill was attached to direct. And so I went in to talk about how to adapt it.This is kind of odd. It's again based in McKellen. In the meeting room at Warner Brothers, there was a life size version of Ian as Gandalf done in Legos. So, it was always, it'll be Ian McKellen and somebody in The Good Liar. Ian as the con man. And that one kind of moved very quickly, because something changed in Bill Condon's schedule. Then they asked Helen Mirren, and she said yes very quickly.And it's a very interesting book, but it had to be condensed rather a lot. There's a lot of flashbacks and going back and forth in time. And we all decided that the main story had to be about this one con that had a weird connection to the past. So, a lot of that kind of adaptation work is deciding what not to include, so you can't really be completely faithful to a book that way. But I do take the point with certain books. When my son was young, he'd go to a Harry Potter movie, and he'd get all pissed off. Pissed off because he'd say Dobby the Elf did a lot more in the book.But if it's a book that's not quite so well-known—The Good Liar isn't a terribly well-known book, nor was A Slight Trick of the Mind--you're able to have a lot more room to play. Jim: It's a very twisty story. Now that you're talking about the book, I'll probably have to go get the book and read it just for comparison. But what I saw on the screen, how did you keep it--because it was very clear at the end--it hits you like a freight train when it all sort of unravels and you start seeing all of these things. How did you keep that so clear for an audience? Because I'll admit, I'm not a huge mystery guy, and I'm not the brightest human, and yet I was able to follow that story completely.Jeffrey: Well, again, I think it's mostly about cutting things, I'm sure. And there are various versions of the script where there are a lot of other details. There's probably too much of one thing or another. And then of course, you know, you get in the editing room and you lose a couple of scenes too. These kinds of things are very tricky. I'm not sure that we were entirely successful in doing it, because you say, which is more important, surprise or suspense? Hitchcock used to have that line about, suspense is knowing there's a bomb under the table. And you watch the characters gather at the table. As opposed to simply having a bomb blow up and you didn't know about it.So, we often went back and forth about Should we reveal that the Helen Mirren character knows that Ian's character is doing something bad? Or do we try to keep it a secret until the end? But do you risk the audience getting ahead of you? I don't mind if the audience is slightly ahead. You know, it's that feeling you get in the theater where there's a reveal and you hear a couple of people say, “Oh, I knew it and they guessed it may be a minute before. But you don't want to get to the point where the audience is, you know, 20 minutes or a half an hour ahead of you.Jim: I certainly was not, I was not in any way. It unfolded perfectly for me in terms of it being a mystery and how it paid off. And Helen Mirren was brilliant. In fact, for a long time during it, I thought they were dueling con men, the way it was set up in the beginning where they were both entering their information and altering facts about themselves.I thought, “Oh, well, they're both con men and, and now we're going to see who is the better con man in the end.” And so. when it paid off. In a way different sort of way, it was terrific for me. Absolutely. Jeffrey: Well, and I thank you. But in a way, they were both con men. Jim: Yes, yes. But she wasn't a professional con man.Jeffrey: She wasn't just out to steal the money from him. She was out for something else. She was out for vengeance. Jim: Yes. Very good. Very, if you haven't seen it, The Good Liar folks, don't wait. I got it on Amazon prime and so can you.Jeffrey: I watched them do a scene, I was over there for about five days during the shooting.And watching the two of them work together was just unbelievable. The textures, the tones, the little lifts of the eyebrow, the shading on one word versus another. Just wonderful, wonderful stuff. Jim: Yeah. I will say I am a huge Marvel Cinematic Universe fan along with my son. We came to those together and I'm a big fan of that sort of movie. So I was delighted by this, because it was such a taut story. And I was involved in every second of what was going on and couldn't quite tell who the good guys were and who the bad guys were and how is this going to work and who's working with who?And it was great. And in my head, I was comparing my love for that sort of big blow it up with rayguns story to this very cerebral, internal. And I loved it, I guess is what I'm saying. And, I am, I think, as close to middle America as you're going to find in terms of a moviegoer. And I thought it was just dynamite. Jeffrey: It was very successful during the pandemic--so many things were when people were streaming--but it was weirdly successful when it hit Amazon or Netflix or whatever it was. And, I think you don't have to be British to understand two elderly people trying to find a relationship. And then it turns out that they both have reasons to hate and kill each other. But nonetheless, there is still a relationship there. So, I pictured a lot of lonely people watching The Good Liar and saying, “Yeah, I'd hang out with Ian McKellen, even if he did steal all my money.” John: Well, speaking of movies, I am occasionally handed notes here while we're live on the air from my wife. And she wants you to just say something about the adaptation you did of your play, Stage Beauty, and what that process was like and how, how that process went.Jeffrey: That was terrific because, primarily Richard Eyre--the director who used to run the National Theater and all that--because he's a theater man and the play's about theater. I love working with Bill Condon and I've loved working with Lassa Hallstrom and other people, but Richard was the first person to direct a film of any of my stuff. And he would call me up and say, “Well, we're thinking of offering it to Claire Danes.” or we're thinking…And usually you just hear later, Oh, somebody else got this role. But the relationship was more like a theater director and a playwright. I was there on set for rehearsals and all that.Which I haven't in the others. No, it was a wonderful experience, but I think primarily because the, the culture of theater saturated the process of making it and the process of rehearsing it and—again--his level of respect. It's different in Hollywood, everybody's very polite, they know they can fire you and you know, they can fire you and they're going to have somebody else write the dialogue if you're not going to do it, or if you don't do it well enough. In the theater, we just don't do that. It's a different world, a different culture, different kind of contracts too. But Richard really made that wonderful. And again, the cast that he put together: Billy Crudup and Claire and Rupert Everett and Edward Fox and Richard Griffiths. I remember one day when I was about to fly home, I told Richard Griffiths what a fan Evan-- my son, Evan--was of him in the Harry Potter movie. And he made his wife drive an hour to come to Shepperton with a photograph of him as Mr. Dursley that he could autograph for my son. John: Well, speaking of stage and adaptations, before we go into our lightning round here, you did two recent adaptations of existing thrillers--not necessarily mysteries, but thrillers--one of which Hitchcock made into a movie, which are Dial M for Murder and Wait Until Dark. And I'm just wondering what was that process for you? Why changes need to be made? And what kind of changes did you make?Jeffrey: Well, in both cases, I think you could argue that no, changes don't need to be made. They're wildly successful plays by Frederick Knott, and they've been successful for, you know, alternately 70 or 60 years.But in both cases, I got a call from a director or an artistic director saying, “We'd like to do it, but we'd like to change this or that.” And I'm a huge fan of Frederick Knott. He put things together beautifully. The intricacies of Dial M for Murder, you don't want to screw around with. And there are things in Wait Until Dark having to do just with the way he describes the set, you don't want to change anything or else the rather famous ending won't work. But in both cases, the women are probably not the most well drawn characters that he ever came up with. And Wait Until Dark, oddly, they're in a Greenwich Village apartment, but it always feels like they're really in Westchester or in Terre Haute, Indiana. It doesn't feel like you're in Greenwich Village in the 60s, especially not in the movie version with Audrey Hepburn. So, the director, Matt Shackman, said, why don't we throw it back into the 40s and see if we can have fun with that. And so it played out: The whole war and noir setting allowed me to play around with who the main character was. And I know this is a cliche to say, well, you know, can we find more agency for female characters in old plays or old films? But in a sense, it's true, because if you're going to ask an actress to play blind for two hours a night for a couple of months, it can't just be, I'm a blind victim. And I got lucky and killed the guy. You've got a somewhat better dialogue and maybe some other twists and turns. nSo that's what we did with Wait Until Dark. And then at The Old Globe, Barry Edelstein said, “well, you did Wait Until Dark. What about Dial? And I said, “Well, I don't think we can update it, because nothing will work. You know, the phones, the keys. And he said, “No, I'll keep it, keep it in the fifties. But what else could you What else could you do with the lover?”And he suggested--so I credit Barry on this--why don't you turn the lover played by Robert Cummings in the movie into a woman and make it a lesbian relationship? And that really opened all sorts of doors. It made the relationship scarier, something that you really want to keep a secret, 1953. And I was luckily able to find a couple of other plot twists that didn't interfere with any of Knott's original plot.So, in both cases, I think it's like you go into a watch. And the watch works great, but you want the watch to have a different appearance and a different feel when you put it on and tick a little differently. John: We've kept you for a way long time. So, let's do this as a speed round. And I know that these questions are the sorts that will change from day to day for some people, but I thought each of us could talk about our favorite mysteries in four different mediums. So, Jeff, your favorite mystery novel”Jeffrey: And Then There Were None. That's an easy one for me. John: That is. Jim, do you have one?Jim: Yeah, yeah, I don't read a lot of mysteries. I really enjoyed a Stephen King book called Mr. Mercedes, which was a cat and mouse game, and I enjoyed that quite a bit. That's only top of mind because I finished it recently.John: That counts. Jim: Does it? John: Yeah. That'll count. Jim: You're going to find that I am so middle America in my answers. John: That's okay. Mine is--I'm going to cheat a little bit and do a short story--which the original Don't Look Now that Daphne du Murier wrote, because as a mystery, it ties itself up. Like I said earlier, I like stuff that ties up right at the end. And it literally is in the last two or three sentences of that short story where everything falls into place. Jeff, your favorite mystery play? I can be one of yours if you want. Jeffrey: It's a battle between Sleuth or Dial M for Murder. Maybe Sleuth because I always wanted to be in it, but it's probably Dial M. But it's also followed up very quickly by Death Trap, which is a great comedy-mystery-thriller. It's kind of a post-modern, Meta play, but it's a play about the play you're watching. John: Excellent choices. My choice is Sleuth. You did have a chance to be in Sleuth because when I directed it, you're the first person I asked. But your schedule wouldn't let you do it. But you would have been a fantastic Andrew Wyke. I'm sorry our timing didn't work on that. Jeffrey: And you got a terrific Andrew in Julian Bailey, but if you wanted to do it again, I'm available. John: Jim, you hear that? Jim: I did hear that. Yes, I did hear that. John: Jim, do you have a favorite mystery play?Jim: You know, it's gonna sound like I'm sucking up, but I don't see a lot of mystery plays. There was a version of Gaslight that I saw with Jim Stoll as the lead. And he was terrific.But I so thoroughly enjoyed Holmes and Watson and would love the opportunity to see that a second time. I saw it so late in the run and it was so sold out that there was no coming back at that point to see it again. But I would love to see it a second time and think to myself, well, now that you know what you know, is it all there? Because my belief is it is all there. John: Yeah. Okay. Jeff, your favorite TV mystery?Jeffrey: Oh, Columbo. That's easy. Columbo.John: I'm gonna go with Poker Face, just because the pace on Poker Face is so much faster than Columbo, even though it's clearly based on Columbo. Jim, a favorite TV mystery?Jim: The Rockford Files, hands down. John: Fair enough. Fair enough. All right. Last question all around. Jeff, your favorite mystery movie? Jeffrey: Laura. Jim: Ah, good one. John: I'm going to go with The Last of Sheila. If you haven't seen The Last of Sheila, it's a terrific mystery directed by Herbert Ross, written by Stephen Sondheim and Anthony Perkins. Fun little Stephen Sondheim trivia. The character of Andrew Wyke and his house were based on Stephen Sondheim. Jeffrey: Sondheim's townhouse has been for sale recently. I don't know if somebody bought it, but for a cool seven point something million, you're going to get it. John: All right. Let's maybe pool our money. Jim, your favorite mystery movie.Jim: I'm walking into the lion's den here with this one. Jeffrey, I hope this is okay, but I really enjoyed the Robert Downey Jr. Sherlock Holmes movies. And I revisit the second one in that series on a fairly regular basis, The Game of Shadows. I thought I enjoyed that a lot. Your thoughts on those movies quickly? Jeffrey: My only feeling about those is that I felt they were trying a little too hard not to do some of the traditional stuff. I got it, you know, like no deer stalker, that kind of thing. But I thought it was just trying a tad too hard to be You know, everybody's very good at Kung Fu, that kind of thing.Jim: Yes. And it's Sherlock Holmes as a superhero, which, uh, appeals to me. Jeffrey: I know the producer of those, and I know Guy Ritchie a little bit. And, I know they're still trying to get out a third one. Jim: Well, I hope they do. I really hope they do. Cause I enjoyed that version of Sherlock Holmes quite a bit. I thought it was funny and all of the clues were there and it paid off in the end as a mystery, but fun all along the road.Jeffrey: And the main thing they got right was the Holmes and Watson relationship, which, you know, as anybody will tell you, you can get a lot of things wrong, but get that right and you're more than two thirds there.

H. Alan Scott/Sadie Pines and Kerri Doherty dive into the 1963 trailer trash treasure "Five Minutes to Love," starring Rue McClanahan as a woman named Poochie who lives in a junkyard! They discuss Rue's marriage to one of the actors, all of the screaming, and the poor baby who definitely should not have been on that set.  Join the GG VIP Club at Patreon.com/GoldenGirlsPodcast Sign up for Kerri's Zoom workshop, "Crafting Your Unforgettable TV Pilot!"  Watch video versions of the podcast on YouTube.com/OutonTheLanai For more Golden Girls greatness, visit OutOnTheLanai.com and follow us at... instagram.com/OutOnTheLanaiOfficial facebook.com/GoldenGirlsPodcast twitter.com/GoldenGirlsPod FOLLOW H. ALAN SCOTT/SADIE PINES... instagram.com/SadiePines instagram.com/HAlanScott linktr.ee/HAlanScott FOLLOW KERRI DOHERTY... instagram.com/squidsy twitter.com/SquidEatSquid Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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WELCOME TO EPISODE 5 OF THE GOLDEN GIRLS DEEP DIVE PODCAST! Starting from the beginning of the show, each week we recap an episode of The Golden Girls and we end each episode with a fully researched deep dive into something from the Golden Girls universe! When Sophia needs a doctor to come to the house,Dr. Elliot Clayton makes the house call. Dorothy and Elliot hit it off and start dating . Shenanigans ensue when Elliot makes a pass at Blanche. Blanche tells Dorothy about the incident and Dorothy doesn't believe her, resulting in a fight that nearly results in Dorothy moving out of the house.  For this week's deep dive, Jenn tells Patrick all about the life and career on Rue McClanahan–from her many, MANY marriages up through the lucky break that landed her the role of Blanche on The Golden Girls. Our episodes are researched by Jess McKillop, Patrick Hinds, and Jennifer Simard. Visit our website for a full list of sources. Follow us on Instagram and TikTok at @GoldenGirlsDeepDive To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

H. Alan Scott/Kerri Doherty revisit The Golden Girls season 5 episode "The Mangiacavallo Curse Makes A Lousy Wedding Present!" They discuss what makes them horny, marble bathroom stalls, and Rue McClanahan's impressive nano facial expressions. Join the GG VIP Club at Patreon.com/GoldenGirlsPodcast Watch video versions of the podcast on YouTube.com/OutonTheLanai For more Golden Girls greatness, visit OutOnTheLanai.com and follow us at... instagram.com/OutOnTheLanaiOfficial facebook.com/GoldenGirlsPodcast twitter.com/GoldenGirlsPod FOLLOW H. ALAN SCOTT/SADIE PINES... instagram.com/SadiePines instagram.com/HAlanScott linktr.ee/HAlanScott FOLLOW KERRI DOHERTY... instagram.com/squidsy twitter.com/SquidEatSquid Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

H. Alan Scott/Sadie Pines and Kerri Doherty are back with part 2 of Mama's Family featuring Betty White and Rue McClanahan! They discuss Eunice's southern slam poetry, Naomi's easter wedding dress, and H. Alan's love of vacuuming.  Join the GG VIP Club at Patreon.com/GoldenGirlsPodcast For more Golden Girls greatness, visit OutOnTheLanai.com and follow us at... instagram.com/OutOnTheLanaiOfficial facebook.com/GoldenGirlsPodcast twitter.com/GoldenGirlsPod FOLLOW H. ALAN SCOTT/SADIE PINES... instagram.com/SadiePines instagram.com/HAlanScott linktr.ee/HAlanScott FOLLOW KERRI DOHERTY... instagram.com/squidsy twitter.com/SquidEatSquid Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

H. Alan Scott/Sadie Pines and Kerri Doherty watch a season 1 episode of Mama's Family featuring Betty White and Rue McClanahan! They discuss all of the Golden Girl references and crossovers, H. Alan's longtime love for Mama, and Kerri has a million questions about the obvious age differences between the characters.  Join the GG VIP Club at Patreon.com/GoldenGirlsPodcast Watch podcast episodes on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/@outonthelanai For more Golden Girls greatness, visit OutOnTheLanai.com and follow us at... instagram.com/OutOnTheLanaiOfficial facebook.com/GoldenGirlsPodcast twitter.com/GoldenGirlsPod FOLLOW H. ALAN SCOTT/SADIE PINES... instagram.com/SadiePines instagram.com/HAlanScott linktr.ee/HAlanScott FOLLOW KERRI DOHERTY... instagram.com/squidsy twitter.com/SquidEatSquid Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Send us a Text Message.Captain and Doc on the make, again.Women's attraction to Doc remains inexplicable.Using the set from Zoro's on Love Boat.Dabney Coleman and Rue McClanahan win points for their actingChico and the Man connection."That's kids been found stealing a watch, how could he be redeemed? Love Boat, you just made a stereotype come to life in front of our eyes!"— Rob"There's nothing redeemable about Doc. There's nothing good about Doc. And every every episode, I'm confused as to why a woman falls so easily and hard for him."— CharlotteVisit LoveBoatExposed.com to dive deeper, and connect with the show; send us a message or record a voicemail for air. Make sure to subscribe - we're on all your favorite podcast platforms! rsmedia.group creationsFair Use Act DisclaimersInformation contained on this podcast and all related materials is for criticism and commentary, as well as for research and educational purposes. Under section 107 of the Copyright Act of 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing.

National Sticky Buns day. Entertainment from 1974. Washington Monument completed, Alka Seltzer went on sale, NASCAR founded. Todays birthdays - Rue McClanahan, Alan Rickman, Tyne Daly, William Petersen, Kelsey Grammer, Mary Chapin Carpenter, Billy Baldwin, Jennifer Love Hewitt. Billy Graham died.Intro - Pour some sugar on me - Def Leppard http://defleppard.com/Sticky Bun - KidzoneThe way we were - Barbra SteisandAnother lonely song - Tammy WynetteAlka Seltzer commercialBirthdays - In da club - 50 Cent http://50cent.com/Golden Girls TV themeCSI TV themeFrazier TV themeDown at the twist and shout - Mary Chapin CarpenterHow do I deal - Jennifer Love HewittExit - Its not love - Dokkenhttps://coolcasts.cooolmedia.com/

Following Bea Arthur's Wildest Talk Show Moments and Rue McClanahan's Most Revealing Talk Show Moments, this week we're looking back at some of Estelle Getty's Sweetest Talk Show Moments! Like the time she fangirled all over Rosie O'Donnell, or when she proudly declared herself a feminist! She also tells a sweet story about why Sophia was always holding onto her purse.  Join the GG VIP Club at Patreon.com/GoldenGirlsPodcast Watch Estelle's Talk Show Moments: The Rosie O'Donnell Show (1996) The Rosie O'Donnell Show (1997) The Joan Rivers Show (1986) Meet The Golden Girls (1992) For more Golden Girls greatness, visit OutOnTheLanai.com and follow us at... instagram.com/OutOnTheLanaiOfficial facebook.com/GoldenGirlsPodcast twitter.com/GoldenGirlsPod FOLLOW H. ALAN SCOTT/SADIE PINES... instagram.com/SadiePines instagram.com/HAlanScott linktr.ee/HAlanScott FOLLOW KERRI DOHERTY... instagram.com/squidsy twitter.com/SquidEatSquid Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

H. Alan Scott/Sadie Pines and Kerri Doherty break down Rue McClanahan's most revealing talk show moments and learn so many things they didn't know about her in the process! Rue reveals her true eye color, the secret to growing tomatoes, and who was the fastest to memorize their lines on The Golden Girls. She also perfectly deflects a pornographic phone call and throws a little sass at Pat Sajak!  Watch the interview clips in full: Joan Rivers The Pat Sajak Show Oprah Dame Edna's Hollywood Larry King Join the GG VIP Club at Patreon.com/GoldenGirlsPodcast For more Golden Girls greatness, visit OutOnTheLanai.com and follow us at... instagram.com/OutOnTheLanaiOfficial facebook.com/GoldenGirlsPodcast twitter.com/GoldenGirlsPod FOLLOW H. ALAN SCOTT/SADIE PINES... instagram.com/SadiePines instagram.com/HAlanScott linktr.ee/HAlanScott FOLLOW KERRI DOHERTY... instagram.com/squidsy twitter.com/SquidEatSquid Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I have been fortunate to interview Del Shores (Sordid Lives Creator) multiple times throughout the years.After working in the entertainment industry for more than three decades as a Director, Producer, and Writer, Del is finally making his NYC theatrical directorial debut with Jiggs Burgess' play Wounded.I am so excited to catch up with Del because I always have great conversations with him. In this NEW interview, Del is Baring It All with Call Me Adam about:Making his NYC theatrical directorial debutOne thing he hasn't done because something or someone got in the wayOne path his life took that he would like to put on full displayWorking with Whoopi Goldberg & Caroline RheaAn update on the Sordid Lives FranchiseSo much moreWounded, by Jiggs Burgess, is about a repressed nobody who thinks of himself as somebody. An addict. Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? played out between hummingbirds. And a pussy eating dog. This is Wounded. Carrol could've been somebody, after all his book, The Crimson Valise, was made into a movie. Yet somehow Carrol's unhealed past, and an aging mother, got in the way. On the other hand, Carrol's classmate, Robert, was smart and driven. Went to one of the best private universities in the country on scholarship. But his damage led him down the path of addiction and eventually prison. In this darkest of comedies, the bleak paths our lives can lead us down are on full display. ***Warning: Recommended for adult audiences. Contains language of a sexual and violent nature.***Wounded plays at the Soho Playhouse as part of the International Fringe Encore Series from January 24-February 11, 2024.More on Del Shores:Del Shores is the writer/director/producer of the films Sordid Lives, Blues for Willadean, Southern Baptist Sissies and A Very Sordid Wedding. He wrote and executive produced the MGM feature Daddy's Dyin'...Who's Got The Will? His plays Cheatin', Daddy's Dyin' (Who's Got The Will?), Daughters of the Lone Star State, Sordid Lives, Southern Baptist Sissies, The Trials and Tribulations of a Trailer Trash Housewife, Yellow, This Side of Crazy and A Very Sordid Wedding are all published by Concord/Samuel French.In television, Del Shores wrote, directed, executive produced and created the LOGO series, Sordid Lives: The Series. He also wrote and executive produced Showtime's Queer As Folk for the last three seasons, wrote and produced for Dharma & Greg and Ned & Stacey. He has directed Academy Award winners Octavia Spencer and Whoopi Goldberg; Grammy Award winner Olivia Newton-John; Emmy winners/nominees Beau Bridges, Delta Burke, Leslie Jordan, Bonnie Bedelia, Bobbie Eakes, Patrika Darbo and Rue McClanahan; Spirit Award winner Dale Dickey; Screen Actors Guild Award-winner Beth Grant; as well as Caroline Rhea, Debby Holiday and David Steen.Special Thanks:Brian Geldin, Brian Geldin PRTheme Song by Bobby CroninPodcast Logo by Liam O'DonnellEdited by Adam RothenbergConnect with Me:Website: www.callmeadam.comFacebook: @CallMeAdamNYCInstagram: @CallMeAdamNYCMentioned in this...

Picture it: Edmonton, 2024, in the middle of a cold snap, but that doesn't mean we are taking time off! We continue our nostalgic tour; first Indy talks Golden Girls, Samantha takes a ride on The Magic School Bus, and we preview next week's watch Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles!   I Love This You Should Too is hosted by Samantha & Indy Randhawa       The Golden Girls is an American sitcom created by Susan Harris that aired on NBC from September 14, 1985, to May 9, 1992, with a total of 180 half-hour episodes, spanning seven seasons. With an ensemble cast starring Bea Arthur, Betty White, Rue McClanahan, and Estelle Getty, the show is about four older women who share a home in Miami, Florida. It was produced by Witt/Thomas/Harris Productions, in association with Touchstone Television. Paul Junger Witt, Tony Thomas, and Harris served as the original executive producers.   The Magic School Bus is an animated educational children's television series, based on the book series of the same name by Joanna Cole and Bruce Degen. Running originally from 1994 to 1997, the series received critical acclaim for its use of celebrity voice talent and combining entertainment with an educational series. The series stars Lily Tomlin as the voice of Ms. Frizzle. Its theme song is performed by Little Richard.   Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles[a] is a 1990 American superhero action comedy film based on the comic book characters created by Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird. It is the first film adaptation of the characters and was directed by Steve Barron and written by Todd W. Langen and Bobby Herbeck from a story by Herbeck. It stars Judith Hoag and Elias Koteas with the voices of Brian Tochi, Robbie Rist, Corey Feldman, and Josh Pais. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles follows the Turtles on a quest to save their master, Splinter, with their new allies, April O'Neil and Casey Jones, from the Shredder and his Foot Clan.

In this episode, resident co-host Joseph and I talk about one of our favorite series, Celebrity Ghost Stories. Because what's better than actress Carrie Fisher, John Waters and Rue McClanahan talking about ghosts? Absolutely nothing. well - except maybe the new Calvin Klein commercial. Don't worry, we get into that too!'Watch Celebrity Ghost Stories: https://youtu.be/9eazBiL6TGI?si=XKk9ZIlT-vScdepPCheck out Joseph Stone's latest novel and audiobook:https://amzn.to/41n3d0KBecome a Ko-Fi Member and listen to the UNCUT and UNEDITED versions of episodes like this!https://ko-fi.com/waitwhaaatpodcastMERCH:https://payhip.com/waitwhaaatareyouwatchingShow Recommendations:https://www.amazon.com/shop/waitwhaaatpodcastBigfoot Diaries Available NOW:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BQXVZLSCLeave a 5-Star Review:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wait-whaaat-are-you-watching/id1602004925Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/show/wait-whaaat-are-you-watching/support.

H. Alan Scott/Sadie Pines and Kerri Doherty watch an episode of the WWII-era period comedy series "Remember Wenn" where Rue played a spitfire wealthy woman named Dusty Foxx! They discuss the beauty of the transatlantic accent, Rue's matching wardrobe from The Golden Girls, and their own childhood experiences making radio shows. Also: Does anyone know a "Hubie?"   Join the GG VIP Club at Patreon.com/GoldenGirlsPodcast For more Golden Girls greatness, visit OutOnTheLanai.com and follow us at... instagram.com/OutOnTheLanaiOfficial facebook.com/GoldenGirlsPodcast twitter.com/GoldenGirlsPod FOLLOW H. ALAN SCOTT/SADIE PINES... instagram.com/SadiePines instagram.com/HAlanScott linktr.ee/HAlanScott FOLLOW KERRI DOHERTY... instagram.com/squidsy twitter.com/SquidEatSquid Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to the Left of Str8 Podcasts: This is our “Left of Str8 Show” Interview Series, where we tell the stories of our amazing LGBTQ Community and fantastic Straight Ally's. This episode is one of our double header interviews for our Premiere Week of Season 7. I was honored to talk to a true icon in the theatre community, Tom D'Angora, an Actor, Writer, Director and Producer that is currently co-producing 3 standouts in the current season; “Harmony,” the musical created by Barry Manilow, “How to Dance in Ohio,” a remarkable show based on a true story, and the upcoming “Suff” which is being co-produced by Hilary Clinton. Summary Tom D'Angora, a luminary in the world of Broadway, discusses his background, film work, and producing career. He shares stories of working with Leslie Jordan, Rue McClanahan, Morgan Fairchild, Omar Sharif Jr., and more. Tom also talks about his diva shows, producing Naked Boys Singing and The Musical of Musicals, and his current project, Harmony, with Barry Manilow. In this conversation, Tom D'Angora discusses the success of Barry and Bruce's dream, the rise of female directors in the entertainment industry, and the musical 'How to Dance in Ohio.' He also shares his excitement for upcoming shows and the importance of LGBTQ activism and representation in the industry. Tom offers words of wisdom for up-and-coming artists and reveals his superpowers and dream date night with his partner Michael. Takeaways Tom D'Angora has been involved in the world of Broadway as a producer, director, and writer. He has worked with notable actors and performers such as Leslie Jordan, Rue McClanahan, Morgan Fairchild, Omar Sharif Jr., and more. Tom has produced successful shows like Naked Boys Singing and The Musical of Musicals. His current project is Harmony, a musical collaboration with Barry Manilow. The success of Barry and Bruce's dream is a testament to their hard work and the support of lead producer Ken Davenport. The entertainment industry is seeing a rise in female directors, and it is important to continue pushing for more inclusion and opportunities for women in the field. The musical 'How to Dance in Ohio' is a heartwarming story that highlights the achievements and challenges of young adults with autism.

This week Deidra covers more celebrity ghost stories.Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠amillionmurders@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us at: @amillionmurders on Instagram to see pictures from the cases each week! A Million Murders on Facebook to join the group! Or check out our LinkTree to find all things A Million Murders: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/amillionmurders⁠⁠⁠ Episode Resources:Lifetime: Celebrity Ghost Stories

On this special Bonus Holiday-themed episode, Susan and Sharon welcome Stan Zimmerman, co-writer of Ladies of the '80s: A Divas Christmas.Stan Zimmerman is a prolific producer and director but is perhaps best known for his work with writing partner James Berg on A Very Brady Sequel and on the classic television as Roseanne, Gilmore Girls and The Golden Girls. In Ladies of the 80's: A Divas Christmas, Loni Anderson, Morgan Fairchild, Linda Gray, Donna Mills and Nicolette Sheridan star as five glamorous ‘80s soap opera icons who reunite to share the spotlight to shoot the final Christmas episode of their long-running soap opera.Lifetime's Ladies of the 80's: A Divas Christmas premieres tomorrow!-- Friday, December 2nd @ 8:00 EST!THE CONVERSATIONSTAN TV: As a kid Stan created an imaginary “Fourth Network” in his bedroom, programming a show lineup 7-days a week -- including giving Lily Tomlin her own comedy-variety series!Stan started out as a writer so young he had to wear a pair of fake glasses to pitch meetings to appear older.In 1985, Stan and his writing partner James Berg were one of the first gay writing teams on network TV – but their agents insisted they stay in the closet for fear they'd be fired.LOOKING FOR A ‘BEA ARTHUR TYPE': How Susan Harris – the creator of The Golden Girls -- ended up snagging the real thing!THE BIRTH OF ST. OLAF: Stan tells the story of finding Betty White's character Rose Nylund's hometown in the first season of The Golden Girls.How Stan and James had to trim their scripts -- because they were getting too many laughs!In the 1980's, you could walk down Santa Monica Blvd on a Saturday night and hear The Golden Girls playing in all the gay bars!What happened the night they filmed an episode on the day Bea Arthur's mother died.“ADULT EDUCATION” – how this classic episode came about when Rue McClanahan specifically asked the writers to “challenge my character”.The huge network fight about airing the “Lesbian Kiss” episode of Roseanne.Which Golden Girl was Stan's favorite to write for?And which one had terrible stage fright every time they filmed an episode?How Joan Collins and Jacklyn Smith were almost in A Divas Christmas!So join Susan and Sharon – and Stan – as they talk Meryl Streep, Fame, teachable moments – and emailing with Lily Tomlin!AUDIOGRAPHYPremieres Friday, December 2nd. Watch Ladies of the 80's: A Divas Christmas on Lifetime. Pre-order Stan's book on Bookshop.org: The Girls: From Golden to Gilmore.CONNECTFor transcripts and more, visit 80sTVLadies.com.Sign up for the 80s TV Ladies mailing list.Follow 8TL on Facebook.Check out Instagram/80sTVLadies.Get ad-free episodes and exclusive videos on PATREON.Find more cool podcasts on our network, Weirding Way Media.BEST FEMALE HOSTED - BEST TV & FILM - BEST ART PODCAST80's TV Ladies WON three People's Choice Podcast Awards!This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5585115/advertisement

Gobble Gobble! This year, H. Alan Scott/Sadie Pines and Kerri Doherty break down Betty White's decade of hosting The Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade, Rue McClanahan's Cinderella performance in the parade in 1986, and Bea Arthur's SNL Thanksgiving episode. Plus, they each talk about what a Golden Girls Thanksgiving episode might have looked like!  Watch clips we talked about in the episode:  Betty White reflects on hosting The Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade Rue McClanahan performs on The Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade Bea Arthur's appearance on an SNL Thanksgiving sketch For more Golden Girls greatness, visit OutOnTheLanai.com and follow us at...  instagram.com/OutOnTheLanaiOfficial facebook.com/GoldenGirlsPodcast twitter.com/GoldenGirlsPod FOLLOW H. ALAN SCOTT/SADIE PINES... instagram.com/SadiePines instagram.com/HAlanScott linktr.ee/HAlanScott FOLLOW KERRI DOHERTY... instagram.com/squidsy twitter.com/SquidEatSquid Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

H. Alan Scott/Sadie Pines and Kerri Doherty watch the 1989 Halloween TV movie "The Wickedest Witch," starring Rue McClanahan as a gorgeous bitch of a witch! They discuss their own memories of 1989 Halloween, Rue bringing her theater background to this project, and magical powers they wished for as weird little children.  You can watch "The Wickedest Witch HERE. For more Golden Girls greatness, visit OutOnTheLanai.com and follow us at... instagram.com/OutOnTheLanaiOfficial facebook.com/GoldenGirlsPodcast twitter.com/GoldenGirlsPod FOLLOW H. ALAN SCOTT/SADIE PINES... instagram.com/SadiePines instagram.com/HAlanScott linktr.ee/HAlanScott FOLLOW KERRI DOHERTY... instagram.com/squidsy twitter.com/SquidEatSquid Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Misfits Makin' It is the podcast component of the misfit comedy shows produced by Lauren LoGiudice. Show dates and info at www.laurenlogiudice.com In this podcast episode, Lauren speaks with Catherine Waller, creator of the solo show The Creeps. Waller discusses how she used physical theater to devise her demented masterpiece. She shares the inspiration behind her characters and the hopes she has for the audience interaction. The episode concludes with Melania Trump's questions about art. Catherine's responses encourage Melania to become a talent manager. Here's your discount code for the Off Broadway run: TTCR101 HOW TO SUPPORT THE PODCAST: Rate and review: Misfits like hearing from other misfits. Tell a friend: Misfits trust other misfits to tell them what's good. Sponsor a podcast: Affordable for individuals and makes the perfect gift. Support this art directly with a podcast that's custom-tailored to you or your friends. Make it happen by reaching out to inthemidstprod@gmail.com. CONNECT WITH CATHERINE WALLER:: www.thecreepsoffbroadway.com TikTok: @TheCreepsShow  Instagram @catherinewallerofficial and @thecreepsshow  CONNECT WITH LAUREN LOGIUDICE: Instagram: @laurenlogi Twitter/TikTok/Threads: @laurenlogi Website: www.laurenlogiudice.com TIMESTAMPS, BROUGHT TO YOU BY AI Catherine's Solo Show "The Creeps" [00:02:15] Catherin discusses her solo show "The Creeps" and how she came up with the characters. New Zealand Upbringing [00:06:38] Catherine talks about her pleasant upbringing in New Zealand and how it influenced her work. The Genesis of "The Creeps" [00:08:50] Catherine shares how the finale of Mary Poppins on Broadway inspired the creation of "The Creeps" and the concept of something else emerging from her performance. The Joy of Clown Work [00:10:00] Discussion about the joy and fun that comes from clown work and physical improvisation. Devising The Creeps [00:10:35] Exploration of how the solo show "The Creeps" was devised through physical experimentation and the emergence of different characters. Traua and Artistic Expression [00:14:01] Exploration of personal trauma and how it filters through the artist, leading to the creation of psychologically dark and curious characters in the how. The inspiration for "Mary Poppins Takes on US Education" [00:19:31] Catherine Waller discusses how her experience teaching at different schools influenced her solo show about education.   Exploring darkness and regrets in characters [00:20:44] Catherine Waller and the host discuss how characters in "The Creeps" reflect different aspects of human psychology and experiences. Discovering the black box theater and starting the residency [00:25:59] Catherine Waller talks about how she stumbled upon a black box theater in Hollywood and how she got the opportunity to use it for her artistic exploration. Catherine's first solo show [00:28:32] Catherine discusses her experience of putting together her first solo show and the audience's role in shaping it. Deciding to tour the show [00:29:16] Catherine talks about her decision to tour her solo show after a friend encouraged her to revisit it. Considring the future of "The Creeps" [00:35:13] Catherine reflects on her ambitions to work in film and screen, and ponders the future of her solo show, including the possibility of adapting it into a different medium. The uphill journey [00:38:23] Catherine Waller shares a story about meeting Rue McClanahan and how she always knew her journey would be difficult. Misfit moment [00:39:09] Catherine Waller iscusses the moment she realized the traditional life was not for her, and her aspirations of becoming a famous actress. Misfit inspirtion [00:40:40] Catherin Waller talks about how she deals with being in the dumps, including going to the gym, having chats with loved ones, and reflecting on herself.

Welcome back and thank you for being a friend! Paul and Erika are easing everyone back into things by talking about something universally (at least, we assume, by our audience) adored: The Golden Girls! Bea Arthur! Rue McClanahan! Betty White! Estelle Getty! Should we just list the character names followed by exclamation points as well? You can follow That Aged Well on Twitter (@ThatAgedWellPod), Instagram (@ThatAgedWell), Threads (@ThatAgedWell), and Spoutible (@ThatAgedWell)!  SUPPORT US ON PATREON FOR BONUS CONTENT! THAT AGED WELL MERCH! Hosts: Paul Caiola & Erika Villalba Producer & Editor: Paul Caiola  

Set sail on Episode 37, Season 2 of the Love Boat, the worlds greatest romantic comedy drama television series of all time! In this episode we follow an all star cast that includes Dabney Coleman, Dena Dietrich, Dave Madden, Rue McClanahan, Gabriel Megor, Heather Menzies, Connie Stevens and Robert Urich as they grapple with difficult decisions, baffling breakups, fair weather friendship, wonky wagers, a kleptomaniac kid and Chaps cologne. So keep your unemployment status to yourself and enjoy this challenging episode of Lovin' The Loveboat. Visit Istvan's website to find all his summer concert dates! See if he's playing near you at: ⁠⁠istvansongs.com ⁠⁠ We also encourage everyone to find our Instagram page Lovin' The Love Boat to enjoy the super cool video messages from Isaac himself Mr. Ted Lange! And much more. Thanks for listening to the podcast and joining us on this voyage and by all means consider subscribing to the show as well as Paramount+ so you can watch the episode with us. We promise you'll be glad that you did. * Attention passengers! If you'd like to see the show continue please consider contributing to our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠GoFundMe⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ so we can stay afloat and allow us to make good on our promise to have exciting new guests join us on future episodes. It means a lot and will also allow us to keep the show commercial free. Visit our page ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠HERE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and give whatever you can. Give any amount and help put us over the top.

In honor of Pride month, H. Alan Scott/Sadie Pines and Kerri Doherty are continuing to break down the most iconic queer moments and episodes of The Golden Girls, and this week they're watching "72 Hours." They discuss their own personal experiences of dealing with anxiety while waiting for life-changing news, the womens' solid support structure, and if the house on Richmond Street has FIVE bathrooms. Be the first to learn about tickets for our upcoming live show! https://www.outonthelanai.com/live Listen to our interview with Tracy Gamble and hear the real-life inspiration behind "72 Hours."  Watch the Paley Center chat featuring Rue McClanahan and Betty White: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeW-G1vBKkY&ab_channel=ThePaleyCenterforMedia Save the wetlands: https://www.epa.gov/wetlands/what-you-can-do-protect-coastal-wetlands For more Golden Girls greatness, visit OutOnTheLanai.com and follow us at... instagram.com/OutOnTheLanaiOfficial facebook.com/GoldenGirlsPodcast twitter.com/GoldenGirlsPod FOLLOW H. ALAN SCOTT/SADIE PINES... instagram.com/SadiePines instagram.com/HAlanScott linktr.ee/HAlanScott FOLLOW KERRI DOHERTY... instagram.com/squidsy twitter.com/SquidEatSquid Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our miniseries on the 1980s movies of director Martha Coolidge ends with a look back at her 1988 film Plain Clothes. ----more---- TRANSCRIPT   From Los Angeles, California, the Entertainment Capital of the World, it's The 80s Movies Podcast. I am your host, Edward Havens. Thank you for listening today.   On this episode, we're going to complete our miniseries on the 1980s films of director Martha Coolidge with her little seen 1988 movie Plain Clothes.   When we last left Ms. Coolidge, she had just seen her 1985 film Real Genius get lost in the mix between a number of similarly themed movies, although it would eventually find its audience through home video and repeated cable airings throughout the rest of the decade.   Shortly after the release of Real Genius, she would pick out her next project, a comedy mystery called Glory Days. Written by Dan Vining, Glory Days was one of a number of television and movie scripts floating around Hollywood that featured a supposedly young looking cop who goes undercover as a student at a high school. Whatever Coolidge saw in it, she would quickly get to work making it her own, hiring a young writer working at Paramount Studios named A. Scott Frank to help her rewrite the script. Coolidge had been impressed by one of his screenplays, a Neo-noir romantic mystery thriller called Dead Again, and felt Frank was the right person to help her add some extra mystery to the Glory Days screenplay.     While Frank and Coolidge would keep some elements of the original Glory Days script, including having the undercover cop's high school identity, Nick Springsteen, be a distant relative of the famous rock star from whose song the script had taken its title. But Coolidge would have Frank add a younger brother for the cop, and add a murdered teacher, who the younger brother is accused of killing, to give the film something extra to work towards.   For the cast, Coolidge would go with a mix of newcomers in the main roles, with some industry veterans to fill out the supporting cast.   When casting began in early 1987, Coolidge looked at dozens of actors for the lead role of Nick Dunbar, but she was particularly struck by thirty-two year old Arliss Howard, whose film work had been limited to supporting roles in two movies, but was expected to become a star once his role in Stanley Kubrick's next project, Full Metal Jacket, opened later in the summer.   Twenty-five year old Suzy Amis, a former model who, like Arlisss, had limited film work in supporting roles, would be cast as Robin, a teacher at the school who Nick develops a crush on while undercover.   The supporting cast would include George Wendt from Cheers, Laura Dern's mother Diane Ladd, an Oscar nominee for her role as Flo in Martin Scorsese's Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, veteran character actor Seymour Cassel, an Oscar nominee himself for John Cassavetes' Faces, Robert Stack, the original Elliot Ness who was yet another former Oscar nominee, Harry Shearer, and the great Abe Vigoda.   The $7.5m film would begin production in the Seattle metro area on May 6th, 1987 and would last for seven weeks, ending on June 30th.    Plain Clothes would open in 193 theatres on April 15th, 1988, including 59 theatres in New York City and eight in Seattle. The reviews would be vicious on the film, with many critics pointing out how ludicrous the plot was, and how distracting it was the filmmakers were trying to pass a thirty two year old actor off as a twenty four year old police officer going undercover as an eighteen year old high school student. Audiences would stay away in droves, with only about 57k people buying a ticket to see the film during the opening three days. A performance so bad, Paramount would end up pulling the film from theatres after seven days at a $289k ticket gross, replacing every screen with another high school-set movie, the similarly-titled Permanent Record, featuring Keanu Reeves, Jennifer Rubin and Kathy Baker, which would also be the final film for Martha Coolidge's regular co-star Michelle Meyrink, who would quit acting the following year and develop an affinity in Zen Buddhism. She would eventually open her own acting studio in her hometown of Vancouver, British Columbia. Not so coincidentally, Martha Coolidge is one of advisory board members of the school.   There would be one more movie for Martha Coolidge in the 1980s, a made for television mystery called Trenchcoat in Paradise, featuring Dirk Benedict from Battlestar Galactica and The A-Team, Catherine Oxenberg from Dynasty, and Bruce Dern, but it's not very good and not really work talking about.   As the 80s moved into the 90s, Coolidge would continue to work both in television and in motion pictures.    In 1991, she would direct her Plain Clothes co-star Diane Ladd alongside Ladd's daughter, Laura Dern, in the Depression-era drama Rambling Rose. But despite unanimous critical consent and Oscar nominations for both Ladd and Dern, the first and only mother-daughter duo to be nominated for the same movie or in the same year, the $7.5m movie would only gross $6.3m.   1993's Lost in Yonkers would be the 23rd film written by Neil Simon, an adaptation of his 1991 Pulitzer Prize-winning play. Actors Irene Worth and Mercedes Ruehl would reprise their Broadway roles for the film, although Richard Dreyfuss would replace Kevin Spacey in the pivotal role as the gangster uncle of two teenage boys who go to live with their aunt after their mother dies. Despite good reviews, the $15m Lost in Yonkers would only gross about $9m.   Originally written as a starring vehicle for Madonna, the 1994 romantic-comedy Angie would instead star Geena Davis as an office worker in Bensonhurst, Brooklyn, who sets her neighborhood upside-down when she decides to become a single mother. Coolidge's highest budgeted film at $26m, Angie would gross just $9.4m, but would in the years to come become famous for being the first film of James Gandolfini, Michael Rispoli and Aida Turturro, who would all go on to star in five years later.   1995's Three Wishes is a bizarre fantasy drama with Patrick Swayze and Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio, about two young boys whose mother starts to fall for a mysterious stranger after their father is reported missing during the Korean War. The $10m film would be the worst reviewed movie of Coolidge's career, and would barely gross $7m when it was released.   Things would turn around for Coolidge on her next film, Out to Sea. The penultimate film for both Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau, this weak but genial romp, according to Janet Maslin of the New York Times, finds the regular co-stars on a Mexico-bound cruise ship, where they must work as dance hosts in order to pay for their trip. Also featuring Golden Girls co-stars Estelle Harris and Rue McClanahan alongside Dyan Cannon and Donald O'Connor, Out to Sea would become her highest grossing film to date, bringing in $29m worth of ticket sales.   While she would make a couple more movies, 2004's The Prince and Me and 2006's Material Girls, Coolidge would spend 1999 and the 2000s making her mark on television, directing episodes of CSI, Madame Secretary, Psych and Weeds, amongst dozens of shows, as well as the 1999 HBO film Introducing Dorothy Dandridge, which would not only win its lead star Halle Berry a number of awards including the Emmy, the Golden Globe and the Screen Actors Guild Award, it would be the first screenplay to be produced by a young writer named Shonda Rhimes. Coolidge herself would be nominated for an Emmy and a Golden Globe for Outstanding Directing of a Movie Made for Television.   But her biggest achievement in Hollywood would come in 2002, when Coolidge would become the first female President of the Directors Guild of America. And in addition to being an advisor to Michelle Meyrink's acting school, she is also a professor of film studies at Chapman University in Southern California.   Thank you for joining us. We'll talk again soon.   Remember to visit this episode's page on our website, The80sMoviePodcast.com, for extra materials about the movies we covered this episode.   The 80s Movies Podcast has been researched, written, narrated and edited by Edward Havens for Idiosyncratic Entertainment.   Thank you again.   Good night.

This episode is a celebration of Leslie Jordan, whose birthday is this Saturday (April 29). Known for his Emmy Award winning role of Beverley Leslie on NBC's Will & Grace, Leslie was delighting audiences on FOX's hit comedy Call Me Kat before his untimely death in October 2022. In March 2022, I got to interview one of Leslie's best friends, Del Shores, creator of the Sordid Lives franchise, live on Instagram. Leslie Jordan originated the role of Brother Boy in Sordid Lives the play, then reprised his role in the various Sordid Lives films & TV series. At the time this interview took place, Del was releasing his new book, The Sordid Lives Saga: Before The Trip, in which Leslie Jordan wrote the forward. Throughout this interview, Del talked about his friendship with Leslie along with some fun, never-before-told stories about him. Happy Birthday Leslie Jordan! Wherever you may be on this day, I know you are making those around laugh! Like What You Hear? Follow me on social media @CallMeAdamNYC Special Thanks: Theme Song by Bobby Cronin Podcast Logo by Liam O'Donnell  More on Del Shores: Del Shores has written, directed, and produced successfully across studio and independent film, network and cable television, and regional and national touring theatre.  Del Shores is the writer/director/producer of the films Sordid Lives, Blues for Willadean, Southern Baptist Sissies and A Very Sordid Wedding. He wrote and executive produced the MGM feature Daddy's Dyin'...Who's Got The Will?  His plays Cheatin', Daddy's Dyin' (Who's Got The Will?), Daughters of the Lone Star State, Sordid Lives, Southern Baptist Sissies, The Trials and Tribulations of a Trailer Trash Housewife, Yellow, This Side of Crazy and A Very Sordid Wedding are all published by Concord/Samuel French. In television, Del Shores wrote, directed, executive produced and created the LOGO series, Sordid Lives: The Series. He also wrote and executive produced Showtime's groundbreaking Queer As Folk for the last three seasons, wrote and produced for Dharma & Greg and Ned & Stacey.  He has directed Academy Award winners Octavia Spencer and Whoopi Goldberg, Grammy Award winner Olivia Newton-John; Emmy winners/nominees Beau Bridges, Delta Burke, Leslie Jordan, Bonnie Bedelia, Bobbie Eakes, Patrika Darbo and Rue McClanahan; Spirit Award winner Dale Dickey; Screen Actor's Guild Award-winner Beth Grant; as well as Caroline Rhea, Debby Holiday and David Steen. As a performer, Shores has performed in hundreds of standup gigs and in 2018 completed a national tour of his critically acclaimed award-winning one-man play Six Characters In Search Of A Play directed by Emerson Collins. The play was filmed and is now streaming worldwide. His tenth play A Very Sordid Wedding (based on his 2017 film) had its world premiere in September 2021, playing to sold out houses at Kalita Humphries Theatre in Dallas for Uptown Players. Shores directed.  In November 2021, he directed his eleventh play, the world premiere of In Memoriam of Lena, at Theatre West on the campus of Northwestern State University, Louisiana with an all student cast and crew.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

H. Alan Scott/Sadie Pines and Kerri Doherty are joined by writer/actor Emerson Collins to chat about Rue's starring role in the 2008 LOGO series 'Sordid Lives.' Emerson, who was a producer and actor on the show, shares some never-before told stories about Rue, including why she took the role and who she got sassy with in the lunch line!  For more Golden Girls greatness, visit OutOnTheLanai.com and follow us at... instagram.com/OutOnTheLanaiOfficial facebook.com/GoldenGirlsPodcast twitter.com/GoldenGirlsPod FOLLOW H. ALAN SCOTT/SADIE PINES... instagram.com/SadiePines instagram.com/HAlanScott linktr.ee/HAlanScott FOLLOW KERRI DOHERTY... instagram.com/squidsy twitter.com/SquidEatSquid Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"The Golden Palace" was the 1992 spin-off of the popular sitcom "The Golden Girls" and features three of its main characters: Blanche Devereaux (Rue McClanahan), Rose Nylund (Betty White), and Sophia Petrillo (Estelle Getty). "The Golden Palace" follows the three women as they purchase a hotel in Miami Beach and begin running it with the help of their manager, Roland Wilson (Don Cheadle), and the hotel's chef, Chuy Castillos (Cheech Marin). Despite some positive reviews and high expectations due to the popularity of "The Golden Girls", "The Golden Palace" was cancelled after just one season due to low ratings. Despite its short run does the pilot episode bring in enough familiar charm to get the green-light? Listen as we review. www.S1E1POD.com Starring: Betty White, Estelle Getty, Rue McClanahan, Don Cheadle, Cheech Marin & Billy L. Sullivan Instagram & Twitter: @S1E1POD

H. Alan Scott/Sadie Pines and Kerri Doherty watch a season 9 episode of Murphy Brown where Rue McClanahan guest stars as Barbara Thorndike in the body of Blanche Devereaux! They discuss their feelings on the word "lover," the levels of mess in their respective apartments, and why Rue's character was basically a drag queen. For more Golden Girls greatness, visit OutOnTheLanai.com and follow us at... instagram.com/OutOnTheLanaiOfficial facebook.com/GoldenGirlsPodcast twitter.com/GoldenGirlsPod FOLLOW H. ALAN SCOTT/SADIE PINES... instagram.com/SadiePines instagram.com/HAlanScott linktr.ee/HAlanScott FOLLOW KERRI DOHERTY... instagram.com/squidsy twitter.com/SquidEatSquid Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we are discussing the star-studded sequel "The Pink Panther 2". It was a sequel review that had us talking about how impossible it is to top Peter Sellers, Rue McClanahan, bullets being stopped by books, the endings we wanted to see, and so much more. This movie was perfect for our podcast name, some good, some bad, but it was a sequel that we had a blast discussing. Watch the review at sequelsonly.com/PinkPanther2 The next sequel discussed "Problem Child 2". For it chatted with Director Brian Levant. We talked about his love of TV at a young which led him to go to school for film, writing and running "Happy Days", "The New Leave it to Beaver", "Problem Child 2", designing the Turboman doll, and his book "My Life and Toys" which can be purchased at https://www.amazon.com/My-Life-Toys-Brian-Levant/dp/0996293051 Follow us on all social media @sequelsonly and our website is sequelsonly.com Review, rate, and share us with your friends, enemies, neighbors, exes, and even that annoying supermarket clerk!

From its debut in in 1985 all the way to modern day "The Golden Girls" has remained a staple in modern television. Despite the fact that the series finale first aired over 20 years ago the show manages to remain just as relevant in pop culture now than it was then. All this despite being a show about a group of older women. The show centered around a 4 women who all ended up living together in Miami after finding themselves either divorced or widowed, a concept that may not initially leap out at you as comedic gold. But the real core of the show is the bond these women had created and their strong friendship which in turn is relatable to viewers all ages. The show had an interesting origin. One year prior to its debut NBC held a presentation to help promote the network's programming to potential advertisers. At this presentation actresses Doris Roberts and Selma Diamond performed a sketch in which they parodied the network's hit show "Miami Vice" where they played two retirees playing cards in a Florida community and named it "Miami Nice". The sketch was a hit among its audience and as result the execs at NBC decided to take the concept and develop it into the show we know how as The Golden Girls. Despite the show's popularity and fan base was the show an instant hit right from episode one? Listen as the S1E1 guys do a deep dive on the show's pilot episode, "The Engagement". www.S1E1POD.com Starring: Bea Arthur, Betty White, Rue McClanahan, & Estelle Getty

H. Alan and Kerri watch the 2001 made-for-TV musical variety show "Nuncrackers," where Rue McClanahan plays a strict, stuffy nun with an affinity for Tony Bennett! They discuss their conflicting feelings about the special, the star power of Sister Amnesia, and why it felt like this was made in the 1980s. Listen on WhoHaha or wherever you get your podcasts, and for more Golden Girls greatness follow Out on the Lanai on Instagram (@outonthelanaiofficial), Twitter (@goldengirlspod), and Facebook (goldengirlspodcast). Stay Golden!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Dylan and Pat are back to break down truffle oil, Jiro's dreams of spanakopita, Cowboy and how much longer he'll last, life vests, jelly fish, Game of Thrones, Rue McClanahan and much more from Bravo's Below Deck Adventure. OUR NEW SHOW BAD TV IS LIVE AND WE'RE COVERING WINTER HOUSE! - Subscribe right here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bad-t-v/id1193077828 The full season of Below Deck Down Under recaps is ALREADY available only on our Patreon at https://Patreon.com/AnotherPodcastNetwork Also available is our coverage of Below Deck Sailing and Love is Blind seasons 1 and 2 for both shows! Check out our merch! https://anothermerchstore.com

H. Alan and Kerri watch the episode of 'Murder, She Wrote' where Rue plays a bespectacled, knitting librarian who may or may not have killed a man! They discuss the Hitchcockian nature of the episode, the wild names of the characters, and the long list of Golden Girls actors who appeared on the show. Listen on WhoHaha or wherever you get your podcasts, and for more Golden Girls greatness follow Out on the Lanai on Instagram (@outonthelanaiofficial), Twitter (@goldengirlspod), and Facebook (goldengirlspodcast). Stay Golden!For the full list of 'Golden Girls' actors we mentioned who also appeared on ‘Murder, She Wrote,' visit our website: http://www.outonthelanai.com/gg-meets-mswSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

H. Alan and Kerri watch the episode of "Boy Meets World" where Rue McClanahan plays a Winnebego-drivin' cool-ass Grandma! They discuss her wild wardrobe, Mr. Feeny's connection to The Golden Girls, and the amazingly positive message of the episode. Listen on WhoHaha or wherever you get your podcasts, and for more Golden Girls greatness follow Out on the Lanai on Instagram (@outonthelanaiofficial), Twitter (@goldengirlspod), and Facebook (goldengirlspodcast). Stay Golden!ZENCASTR:Use our special link zen.ai/staygolden and use stay golden to save 30% off your first three months of Zencastr professional.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Comedian, and Queen of Podcasts, Lauren Lapkus (Orange is the New Black, The Wrong Missy) joins the show to wax poetic about her personal love for Boy Meets World. Together they find out the details of Feeny's first smile, the pay disparities that almost lost the show their new star and what it felt like to welcome celebrity guest, and Golden Girl, Rue McClanahan to the Matthews' family home! Call some professional movers because there was so much to unpack in this episode…part 2 comes out next!!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Continuing our Season of All-Stars, this week Alicia brings us the (mostly) delightful story of Hall of Famer Rue McClanahan, whose five divorces and six marriages mean she'll always be Golden in our eyes. Want early, ad-free episodes, limited series, Zoom hangouts, and more trashycandy goodness? Join the fun at patreon.com/trashydivorces! Sponsors Betterhelp.com/trashy – Get 10% off your first month when you sign up at the link! The Oak Tree Group. Mention Trashy Divorces for your free one hour financial preparedness conversation. Call 770-319-1700 or visit them on the web at theoaktreegroup.net. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices