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In this episode of Profiling Evil, I sit down with clinical and forensic psychologist Dr. Joni Johnston to examine why some women pursue relationships with men responsible for notorious killings. We begin with Chris Watts, who is serving life without parole for murdering his pregnant wife, Shanann Watts, their daughters, Bella and Celeste, and their unborn son, Nico. With reports that Watts may now want to marry a woman who has repeatedly visited him in prison, we discuss what someone may gain from a relationship built around distance, controlled contact and the belief that she alone understands the man behind the crime.Dr. Johnston explains the limited research surrounding hybristophilia, the term commonly used for attraction to people who commit serious crimes. We discuss rescue fantasies, religious redemption, the desire to feel uniquely important, denial of overwhelming evidence and the emotional appeal of a relationship in which everyday responsibilities are largely absent. We also examine how an incarcerated offender can create intimacy through letters, telephone calls and carefully controlled stories while the person outside supplies money, attention, loyalty and a connection to the free world.We compare Watts with Richard Ramirez, the Night Stalker, who received attention from numerous women while awaiting execution and eventually married Doreen Lioy. Her refusal to accept the evidence against him lasted for years before DNA linked Ramirez to the killing of nine-year-old Mei Leung. We also discuss Luigi Mangione and the public support, romantic attention and substantial defense contributions he received after the killing of UnitedHealthcare executive Brian Thompson. Mangione has now pleaded guilty to two federal stalking charges resulting in Thompson's death and admitted in court that he shot him; the separate New York murder prosecution is currently being challenged by his attorneys. (Associated Press)This conversation is not about assuming that every person who writes to an inmate has the same motivation. It is about understanding the different psychological needs that can make these relationships attractive, the ways imprisoned offenders may groom or manipulate people outside and the difference between a sincere claim of change and years of accountable behavior. Dr. Johnston also explains why intelligence, professional training or previous relationship experience does not necessarily protect someone from emotional manipulation.I want to hear what you think. Should Chris Watts be permitted to marry while serving life for killing Shanann, Bella, Celeste and Nico? Is a prison relationship evidence of love, a rescue effort, a redemption story or something the offender has carefully constructed?#ChrisWatts #ShanannWatts #BellaWatts #CelesteWatts #NicoWatts #LuigiMangione #BrianThompson #RichardRamirez #JoniJohnston #JennieVincow #DayleOkazaki #TsaiLianYu #VincentZazzara #MaxineZazzara #WilliamDoi #MabelBell #MaryLouiseCannon #JoyceLucilleNelson #MaxonKneiding #LelaKneiding #ChainarongKhovananth #ElyasAbowath #PeterPan #MeiLeung #TrueCrime #ForensicPsychology #PrisonRelationships #PrisonGrooming #Hybristophilia #LoveBehindBars #VictimAdvocacy #ProfilingEvil========================================20% OFF Newspapers.comhttps://www.newspapers.com/go/podcast/?ref=profilingevil?xid=8877&utm_source=ProfilingEvilPodcast&utm_medium=podcst&utm_campaign=ProfilingEvil26========================================Discounts on eBikes: https://aipasbike.com/?ref=PROFILINGEVILReferral Coupon Code: PROFILINGEVIL========================================Email your questions to: ProfilingEvil@gmail.com========================================

A woman from Cleveland moved to Wisconsin, took the surname of Watts – a man serving five life sentences for killing his entire family – and filed to marry him. Women have been doing this for well over a century, and the ones who later walked away have almost never been asked why.BOOK: “They Told Me My Newborn Died – They Lied” by Darren Marlar: https://amzn.to/4ihvu3kEPISODE BLOG PAGE (includes sources): https://weirddarkness.com/wattsandlizzieREAD or DOWNLOAD the full transcript of this episode: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/yzmw3jdnThis episode includes references to suicide and to the deaths of children. If you are struggling, you are not alone, and help is available. https://WeirdDarkness.com/HOPE is a free directory of mental health resources, organized by country, for anyone anywhere in the world who needs somebody to talk to. And if you're in the United States or Canada, you can get immediate help over the phone by dialing 988.FEATURED STORIES IN THIS EPISODE: Eight years after Chris Watts strangled his pregnant wife and smothered their two daughters, a woman from Cleveland has moved to Wisconsin, started signing his surname, and filed paperwork that now sits on a prison warden's desk. And Chris Watts is not the only man in permanent lockup who is seeking matrimony. Later, we'll look at the women who build relationships with men who will die behind bars, and what draws them in.CHAPTERS & TIME STAMPS (All Times Approximate)…00:00:00.000 = The Foreboding00:01:51.635 = Show Open00:03:19.353 = Ten Seconds At Dodge Correctional00:20:26.768 = Shannan, Bella, Celeste and Nico ***00:48:21.294 = He Will Write Back ***01:04:25.333 = Dead In All Respects ***01:24:35.204 = Nobody Counts Any Of This ***01:29:55.177 = Show Close*** = Begins immediately after inserted ad breakLISTEN ON PODCAST APPS: Look for this podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeart Radio, Amazon Music, Pandora, TuneIn Radio, and other podcast apps. Get a list of free listening apps here: https://weirddarkness.com/wdapps*No AI Voices Are Used In The Narration Of This Podcast*WeirdDarkness® is a registered trademark. Copyright ©2026, Weird Darkness.Originally aired: August 19, 2026This episode of Weird Darkness covers the marriage application Chris Watts filed from a Wisconsin prison eight years after murdering his pregnant wife and their two young daughters, and the long record of women who write to, visit and marry men who will never get out.It opens at Dodge Correctional Institution in Waupun, Wisconsin, where an inmate may touch a visitor twice, once at the start of a visit and once at the end, an embrace reporting puts at roughly ten seconds. On August 12th, 2026 the Daily Mail reported that Chris Watts, 41, and a 39-year-old Cleveland realtor named Lizzie Henderson had applied to marry inside the Wisconsin prison system. Lizzie had moved from Ohio to Wisconsin with her mother, filed a sealed petition for a confidential name change on September 12th, 2025, and appeared in prison visitor logs roughly twenty times during 2025, plus a visit on Christmas Day of 2024. Wisconsin handles these requests under policy 309.00.06, PIOC Marriages, which routes the application through a marriage coordinator and leaves the decision with the warden. No ceremony or license has been documented, and Watts has no projected release date.From there the episode goes back to the family. The Watts family doorbell camera recorded Shanann Watts arriving home at 1:48 in the morning on August 13th, 2018 at 2825 Saratoga Trail in Frederick, Colorado. She was 34 and fifteen weeks pregnant with a son the couple had named Nico, raising daughters Bella, four, and Celeste, three, and selling Thrive for Le-Vel while her husband worked for Anadarko Petroleum and carried on an affair with co-worker Nichol Kessinger. Watts failed a polygraph administered by Colorado Bureau of Investigation agent Tammy Lee, blamed Shanann for the girls' deaths, then retracted it. A drone over an Anadarko site called CERVI 319 found Shanann in a shallow grave and both girls submerged in crude oil inside storage tanks with eight-inch hatches. Judge Marcelo Kopcow sentenced him on November 19th, 2018 to five life sentences plus 84 years. In a February 2019 interview at Waupun, Watts described smothering Celeste in his truck while Bella sat beside her, and hearing Bella's last two words, "Daddy, no!", every time he closes his eyes.The second half opens in the autumn of 1921, when French railways ran extra trains to Versailles for the trial of Henri Désiré Landru, a furniture dealer who placed lonely-hearts advertisements in Paris newspapers and murdered eleven people. Women mailed him proposals of marriage while he awaited the guillotine. The modern version runs through Meet-An-Inmate, launched in 1998, and WriteAPrisoner, founded by Adam Lovell in 2000, which post profiles written on paper because American prisons allow no internet access; Susan Smith drew more than six thousand letters before pulling her listing in 2003. Hybristophilia, the term journalists reach for, was coined by sexologist John Money in 1986 and has never appeared in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual. Sheila Isenberg's Women Who Love Men Who Kill, forensic psychologist Katherine Ramsland's "perfect boyfriend" model, and sociologist Megan Comfort's San Quentin fieldwork in Doing Time Together supply what the women themselves say they are getting.Two 2025 studies found that actively seeking out romanticizing TikTok content correlated with attraction while passive exposure predicted nothing. The risk is documented in the killings of Regina Capobianco and John Mann by her pen pal Thomas Knuff in Parma Heights, Ohio, and in the strangling deaths of Stephanie Dowells and Tania Thomas during family visits at Mule Creek State Prison. The marriages run from Nina Van Zandt, who married Haymarket defendant August Spies by proxy in 1887 and may have married an innocent man, through Ted Bundy and Carole Ann Boone, Doreen Lioy and Richard Ramirez at San Quentin, the Twinkie that served as Erik Menendez and Tammi Saccoman's wedding cake, and James Whitehouse, who wrote to Susan Atkins in 1985 and went on to Harvard Law School to serve as her attorney. All of it rests on Turner v. Safley, the 1987 Supreme Court decision in which Justice Sandra Day O'Connor noted that most inmates are eventually released, leaving the man who never will be an untested case. Rhode Island's 1909 civil death statute declared lifers "dead in all respects", and Britain barred whole-life prisoners from marrying in 2024 after Milly Dowler's murderer Levi Bellfield was granted permission.The episode closes on the women who leave, absent from every study in the field. Lynn Hartman ended her engagement to Steven Avery in October of 2016 and wrote that she had been fooled by the Netflix documentary. Paula Williamson married Charles Bronson at HMP Wakefield in November of 2017, had it annulled in 2019, and died that July at thirty-eight. Anna Eriksson divorced Lyle Menendez in 2001 and still argues for his release. No agency counts prison marriages, and every figure circulating online is unsourced. Chris Watts belongs to a long file rather than a new one, having received his first letters from strangers within weeks of his December 2018 sentencing, before he had written a word to any of them.LIKE WHAT YOU'RE HEARING? WEIRD DARKNESS has new episodes 7 DAYS A WEEK! 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 A picture-perfect family. A shocking disappearance. A truth no one saw coming.In this episode, we take a closer look at the Chris Watts case, following the investigation from the moment Shanann Watts and her children were reported missing to the evidence that exposed what really happened. We'll break down the timeline, examine the key moments in the case, and discuss why it remains one of the most widely discussed true crime stories in recent history. 

In 2018, the tragic death of Shanann Watts and her three children at the hand of Christopher Watts shocked a nation. The killer ultimately confessed to his heartless crimes and is now serving life in prison. Documentary coverage of the case sparked new interest when keen observers noticed possible paranormal activity on included police body camera footage. That's where we come in…Join Fright Life as we explore the paranormal activity caught during the unfolding events of this tragedy.What did you think of this episode?

Colorado, agosto 2018 – Una donna di nome Shanann Watts e le sue due figlie scompaiono nel nulla. A lanciare l'allarme sono amici e vicini, insospettiti da un silenzio improvviso che non sembra appartenere a una famiglia così presente e attiva, soprattutto sui social. Nelle ore successive, il marito Chris Watts si espone pubblicamente, rilascia interviste e lancia appelli accorati per il loro ritorno, mentre l'intero Paese segue con attenzione il caso. Ma dietro quell'immagine di normalità iniziano presto ad emergere crepe profonde. Le indagini si concentrano rapidamente proprio su Chris, tra incongruenze, movimenti sospetti e un comportamento che, col passare delle ore, appare sempre più difficile da spiegare. Nel giro di pochi giorni, la verità prende una piega drammatica, trasformando una semplice sparizione in uno dei casi di cronaca nera più sconvolgenti degli ultimi anni. Ma chi è davvero Chris Watts? E cosa si cela dietro la sua apparente facciata da buon padre di famiglia? Proviamo a scoprirlo insieme a Luca Mastinu ed Anna Chiara Desole: esperti di cronaca nera ed autori del podcast “Stoner”. Iscriviti al gruppo Telegram per interagire con noi e per non perderti nessuna delle novità in anteprima e degli approfondimenti sulle puntate: https://t.me/LucePodcast Se vuoi ascoltarci senza filtri e sostenere il nostro lavoro, da oggi è possibile abbonarsi al nostro canale Patreon e accedere a contenuti bonus esclusivi tramite questo link: patreon.com/LucePodcast

New financial records and private texts shed light on Shanann Watts' final weeks. The records show party plans, canceled hopes, and growing marital strain before the 2018 murders. Scott breaks down what the messages reveal, what they do not prove, and why the timeline still matters. Watch, comment, and subscribe for legal analysis without the nonsense. #ShanannWatts, #ChrisWatts, #WattsFamilyMurders, #TrueCrime, #CrimeTalk, #LegalAnalysis

When thirty-four-year-old Shanann Watts missed a doctor's appointment on August 13, 2018, her friends reported her missing to the Frederick, Colorado Police. When officers searched the home, they found Shanann's car parked in the garage and her belongings—including her wallet, cell phone, and medication—were found in various spots around the house, but there was no sign of Shanann or the couple's two children anywhere. The next day, the FBI opened an investigation into the disappearance of Shanann, Bella and Celeste and Chris took to local television to give one of the most infamous and suspicious interviews of all time. He asked anyone with information about their whereabouts to come forward. The very next day however, Chris failed a polygraph exam and eventually confessed to murdering his wife, but he initially denied killing their children. MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE Chris Watts Discovery Documents Denty & Shaz References Baker, KC. 2018. Pregnant Woman and Her 2 Little Girls Vanish and Could Be in Danger, Authorities Say. August 15. Accessed April 15, 2026. https://people.com/crime/colorado-pregnant-mom-daughters-vanish-medication-left/. Glatt, John. 2020. The Perfect Father: The True Story of Chris Watts, His All-American Family, and a Shocking Murder. New York, NY: St. Martin's Press. Helling, Steve. 2018. Pregnant Mom Vanishes, Husband Pleads for Help — Then 3 Bodies Turn Up: How Watts Family Murder Case Unfolded.September 18. Accessed April 15, 2026. https://people.com/crime/shanann-chris-watts-family-murder-timeline/. McDonnell-Parry, Amelia. 2018. "Colorado man claims he killed pregnant wife after she strangled their daughters." Roling Stone, August 20. Swanson, Sady, and Nick Coltrain. 2018. "Christopher Watts sentenced to 3 life terms for murdering pregnant wife, 2 daughters." Fort Collins Coloradoan, November 20: 1. Chris Watts Discovery Documents Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash KelleyListener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra LallyListener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

When thirty-four-year-old Shanann Watts missed a doctor's appointment on August 13, 2018, her friends reported her missing to the Frederick, Colorado Police. When officers searched the home, they found Shanann's car parked in the garage and her belongings—including her wallet, cell phone, and medication—were found in various spots around the house, but there was no sign of Shanann or the couple's two children anywhere. The next day, the FBI opened an investigation into the disappearance of Shanann, Bella and Celeste and Chris took to local television to give one of the most infamous and suspicious interviews of all time. He asked anyone with information about their whereabouts to come forward. The very next day however, Chris failed a polygraph exam and eventually confessed to murdering his wife, but he initially denied killing their children. MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE Get 25% off MORBID Merch on our shops on Sirius & Podswag! Catch the sale which is available until 5/11! Buy Tickets to our LIVE SHOW at Radio City Music Hall on June 27th! We have an INCREDIBLE guest and SICK merch! Want a signed copy of THE BUTCHER LEGACY?Click here to order from Premiere Collectibles! Chris Watts Discovery Documents Body Language Analysis Video References Baker, KC. 2018. Pregnant Woman and Her 2 Little Girls Vanish and Could Be in Danger, Authorities Say. August 15. Accessed April 15, 2026. https://people.com/crime/colorado-pregnant-mom-daughters-vanish-medication-left/. Glatt, John. 2020. The Perfect Father: The True Story of Chris Watts, His All-American Family, and a Shocking Murder. New York, NY: St. Martin's Press. Helling, Steve. 2018. Pregnant Mom Vanishes, Husband Pleads for Help — Then 3 Bodies Turn Up: How Watts Family Murder Case Unfolded. September 18. Accessed April 15, 2026. https://people.com/crime/shanann-chris-watts-family-murder-timeline/. McDonnell-Parry, Amelia. 2018. "Colorado man claims he killed pregnant wife after she strangled their daughters." Roling Stone, August 20. Swanson, Sady, and Nick Coltrain. 2018. "Christopher Watts sentenced to 3 life terms for murdering pregnant wife, 2 daughters." Fort Collins Coloradoan, November 20: 1. Chris Watts Discovery Documents Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash KelleyListener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra LallyListener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025) Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In August 2018, a quiet neighborhood in Frederick, Colorado, became the center of a case that would shock the country.Shanann Watts and her two daughters vanished without a trace. Their home showed no signs of struggle. Their belongings were left behind. And the person asking for their safe return stood just outside… speaking directly to the cameras.But as investigators followed the evidence, the story began to unravel.This episode explores the disappearance, the interrogation that changed everything, and the truth that emerged in a case where the image of a perfect family hid something far darker.

When a wife and two young children vanish, the internet's favorite theory shows up fast: it's always the husband. This week on Timesuck, we dig into the horrifying Chris Watts case - a story of appearances, assumptions, so, SO many Thrive supplements, and a seemingly normal man whose life imploded in the most unthinkable way.Merch and more: www.badmagicproductions.com Timesuck Discord! https://discord.gg/tqzH89vWant to join the Cult of the Curious PrivateFacebook Group? Go directly to Facebook and search for "Cult of the Curious" to locate whatever happens to be our most current page :)For all merch-related questions/problems: store@badmagicproductions.com (copy and paste)Please rate and subscribe on Apple Podcasts and elsewhere and follow the suck on social media!! @timesuckpodcast on IG and http://www.facebook.com/timesuckpodcastWanna become a Space Lizard? Click here: https://www.patreon.com/timesuckpodcast.Sign up through Patreon, and for $5 a month, you get access to the entire Secret Suck catalog (295 episodes) PLUS the entire catalog of Timesuck, AD FREE. You'll also get 20% off of all regular Timesuck merch PLUS access to exclusive Space Lizard merch. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

To the outside world, Chris and Shanann Watts had it all — a beautiful home, two adorable daughters, and a baby boy on the way. But behind the smiling family photos, cracks were forming. When Shanann and the girls vanish without a trace, Chris's pleas for their return ignite a nationwide search. Yet, as investigators look closer, they uncover secrets that turn a picture-perfect marriage into one of the most chilling crimes of the decade. Murder: True Crime Stories is a Crime House Original Podcast, powered by PAVE Studios. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. For ad-free listening and early access to episodes, subscribe to Crime House+ on Apple Podcasts. Don't miss out on all things Murder: True Crime Stories! Instagram: @Crimehouse TikTok: @Crimehouse Facebook: @crimehousestudios X: @crimehousemedia YouTube: @crimehousestudios To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

En aout 2018, à Frederick dans le Colorado, Shanann Watts et ses deux petites filles de 3 et 4 ans, disparaissent. Son mari Chris est vite dans le viseur. Il affirme qu'après une dispute conjugale, Shanann et les deux gamines, ont trouvé refuge chez une amie, mais il est incapable de dire laquelle. Distribué par Audiomeans. Visitez audiomeans.fr/politique-de-confidentialite pour plus d'informations.

En aout 2018, à Frederick dans le Colorado, Shanann Watts et ses deux petites filles de 3 et 4 ans, disparaissent. Son mari Chris est vite dans le viseur. Il affirme qu'après une dispute conjugale, Shanann et les deux gamines, ont trouvé refuge chez une amie, mais il est incapable de dire laquelle. Distribué par Audiomeans. Visitez audiomeans.fr/politique-de-confidentialite pour plus d'informations.

En aout 2018, à Frederick dans le Colorado, Shanann Watts et ses deux petites filles de 3 et 4 ans, disparaissent. Son mari Chris est vite dans le viseur. Il affirme qu'après une dispute conjugale, Shanann et les deux gamines, ont trouvé refuge chez une amie, mais il est incapable de dire laquelle. Distribué par Audiomeans. Visitez audiomeans.fr/politique-de-confidentialite pour plus d'informations.

Crazy Chris Watts Blames Blames Wife, Mistress, and “Temptation” For Taking Out His Family Convicted family murderer Chris Watts continues to deflect blame for the brutal 2018 killings of his pregnant wife and two young daughters, according to disturbing jailhouse letters obtained by Knewz.com. In a series of handwritten messages from behind bars, Watts shifts responsibility to his late wife Shanann, his former mistress, and even spiritual temptation—while continuing to describe himself as a "good man." Watts, now 39, is serving multiple life sentences without parole at Dodge Correctional Institution in Wisconsin for the murders of Shanann Watts, 34, and their daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. The horrific killings gripped the nation in August 2018, when Watts initially pretended to be a grieving husband and father during media appearances, only to later confess to the crimes after being confronted with damning evidence. But in letters written to acquaintances, friends, and even addressed to God, Watts portrays himself as a victim of circumstances. He calls Shanann a “control freak” who, he claims, ignored his emotional needs and drove him into an affair with co-worker Nichol Kessinger. Kessinger is also vilified in the letters, which Watts uses to describe her as a “harlot” and “evil woman” who lured him with “flattering speech” and “lust in her eyes and flesh.” Despite these deflections, Watts offers little genuine remorse, even referring to himself as “still a good man” led astray. A source close to the case called the letters "a masterclass in manipulation, self-pity, and blame-shifting." “Instead of owning the unimaginable crimes he committed, Watts casts himself as a weak, misguided soul corrupted by others,” the source said. “Chris Watts is not a victim. He is a calculating killer who refuses to take full responsibility—even now.” Watts' deception began almost immediately after the murders. On the day his family was reported missing, he gave emotional interviews on local news, pleading for their safe return. Behind the scenes, however, law enforcement uncovered surveillance footage of him loading his family's bodies into his truck. He later confessed that, in the early hours of August 13, 2018, he strangled Shanann in their home while she was still pregnant with their son. He then drove their daughters to the oil site where he worked, smothering each one before hiding their bodies in oil tanks and burying Shanann nearby. Watts avoided the death penalty by pleading guilty to five counts of first-degree murder on November 6, 2018. He was sentenced to five life sentences, three to be served consecutively and two concurrently, along with additional time for unlawful termination of a pregnancy and tampering with a deceased body. Despite his continued attempts to revise history and cast blame on others, legal experts and observers say Watts' actions—and his words—continue to reveal a deeply narcissistic and remorseless individual. “He wants the world to see him as someone who was cornered,” the insider added. “But the truth is far more horrifying—he planned this, carried it out, and now, even years later, he's trying to rewrite the story.” Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video?  Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872 

Crazy Chris Watts Blames Blames Wife, Mistress, and “Temptation” For Taking Out His Family Convicted family murderer Chris Watts continues to deflect blame for the brutal 2018 killings of his pregnant wife and two young daughters, according to disturbing jailhouse letters obtained by Knewz.com. In a series of handwritten messages from behind bars, Watts shifts responsibility to his late wife Shanann, his former mistress, and even spiritual temptation—while continuing to describe himself as a "good man." Watts, now 39, is serving multiple life sentences without parole at Dodge Correctional Institution in Wisconsin for the murders of Shanann Watts, 34, and their daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. The horrific killings gripped the nation in August 2018, when Watts initially pretended to be a grieving husband and father during media appearances, only to later confess to the crimes after being confronted with damning evidence. But in letters written to acquaintances, friends, and even addressed to God, Watts portrays himself as a victim of circumstances. He calls Shanann a “control freak” who, he claims, ignored his emotional needs and drove him into an affair with co-worker Nichol Kessinger. Kessinger is also vilified in the letters, which Watts uses to describe her as a “harlot” and “evil woman” who lured him with “flattering speech” and “lust in her eyes and flesh.” Despite these deflections, Watts offers little genuine remorse, even referring to himself as “still a good man” led astray. A source close to the case called the letters "a masterclass in manipulation, self-pity, and blame-shifting." “Instead of owning the unimaginable crimes he committed, Watts casts himself as a weak, misguided soul corrupted by others,” the source said. “Chris Watts is not a victim. He is a calculating killer who refuses to take full responsibility—even now.” Watts' deception began almost immediately after the murders. On the day his family was reported missing, he gave emotional interviews on local news, pleading for their safe return. Behind the scenes, however, law enforcement uncovered surveillance footage of him loading his family's bodies into his truck. He later confessed that, in the early hours of August 13, 2018, he strangled Shanann in their home while she was still pregnant with their son. He then drove their daughters to the oil site where he worked, smothering each one before hiding their bodies in oil tanks and burying Shanann nearby. Watts avoided the death penalty by pleading guilty to five counts of first-degree murder on November 6, 2018. He was sentenced to five life sentences, three to be served consecutively and two concurrently, along with additional time for unlawful termination of a pregnancy and tampering with a deceased body. Despite his continued attempts to revise history and cast blame on others, legal experts and observers say Watts' actions—and his words—continue to reveal a deeply narcissistic and remorseless individual. “He wants the world to see him as someone who was cornered,” the insider added. “But the truth is far more horrifying—he planned this, carried it out, and now, even years later, he's trying to rewrite the story.” Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video?  Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872

In this episode of the Compendium, Chris Watts stands at the center of a chilling American Murder that captivated the world in 2018. We'll find out how the Watt Family Murders Unfolded, from Shanann Watts' life in Frederick, Colorado, to the appalling truths behind a Family Annihilator. Throughout our investigation, one question looms: Why Did Chris Watts Kill His Family? We give you just the Compendium, but if you want more, here are our resources:American Murder: The Family Next Door [2020] - by Jenny PopplewellChris Watts Body Cam Footage - by Colorado Bureau of InvestigationLetters from Christopher - by Cheryln CadleChris Watts Interrogation Video - by Colorado Bureau of Investigation Host & Show Info Hosts: Kyle Risi & Adam Cox About: Kyle and Adam are more than just your hosts, they're your close friends sharing intriguing stories from tales from the darker corners of true crime, the annals of your forgotten history books, and the who's who of incredible people. Intro Music: Alice in dark Wonderland by Aleksey Chistilin Community & Calls to Action ⭐ Review & follow on: Spotify & Apple Podcasts

It was a case that made national headlines. Shanann Watts and her two daughters, missing. Her husband Chris on television, pleading for their return. Then their bodies found at the oil site where he worked. What secret had Chris Watts been keeping?  Originally aired: 12/07/2018 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Die Familie Watts führt in Colorado ein scheinbar perfektes Leben – und die ganze Welt kann online daran teilhaben: Mama Shanann teilt täglich Videos auf Facebook, in denen Papa Chris liebevoll mit den kleinen Töchtern Bella und Celeste spielt. Die beiden Mädchen himmeln ihren Vater an; er ist ihr Held und Beschützer. Doch am 13. August 2018 zerbricht das Familienglück jäh: Shanann und die beiden Mädchen verschwinden spurlos. Die fieberhafte Suche beginnt, und schon bald tauchen beunruhigende Details auf, die das Bild der glücklichen Familie in Frage stellen. Freunde und Nachbarn stehen unter Schock – was könnte einer jungen Mutter und ihren zwei kleinen Kindern zugestoßen sein? Wer würde ihnen etwas antun? In dieser Folge tauchen wir tief in die Ermittlungen ein und beleuchten die dunklen Wendungen und erschütternden Enthüllungen, die Amerika und die ganze Welt in Atem hielten. Triggerwarnung: Gewalt an Kindern, Fehlgeburt. Eine Produktion von Auf Ex Productions. Hosts: Leonie Bartsch, Linn Schütze Recherche: Linn Schütze, Carmen Haase Redaktion: Antonia Fischer Produktion: Lorenz Schütze Quellen (Auswahl): Buch: The perfect father American Murder: Die Bilderbuchfamilie (Netflix) Denver 7 Interview mit Chris Watts Facebook-Profil Shanann Watts NBC-News New York Times Artikel: https://www.nytimes.com/article/chris-watts-case.html Messe für Shanann, Bella, Celeste und Nico (FB live) Du möchtest mehr über unsere Werbepartner erfahren? Hier findest du alle Infos & Rabatte: https://linktr.ee/MordaufEx Du möchtest Werbung in diesem Podcast schalten? Dann erfahre hier mehr über die Werbemöglichkeiten bei Seven.One Audio: https://www.seven.one/portfolio/sevenone-audio

In August of 2018, Chris and Shanann Watts' marriage ended in violent tragedy. The trauma left a family broken and a Colorado community reeling, as the public struggled to understand the shocking crime. Keep up with us on Instagram @serialkillerspodcast! Have a story to share? Email us at serialkillerstories@spotify.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Shanann Watts seemed to have the picture-perfect life. But in reality, an extramarital affair, financial struggles, and conflicts with extended family were tearing the couple apart, all leading to a shocking, brutal crime that would shock the nation. Keep up with us on Instagram @serialkillerspodcast! Have a story to share? Email us at serialkillerstories@spotify.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode of the Love and Chaos Podcast, Chaos and Onyx discuss the cases of Shanann Watts and Micah Miller. They explore the themes of child abuse, narcissism, and the role of social media in these cases. They question the behavior of Shanann Watts, noting her focus on her MLM business and her use of her children as props. They also discuss the dynamics between Shanann and her husband Chris, and the potential factors that led to the tragic outcome. They then pivot to the case of Micah Miller, a domestic violence victim who was allegedly murdered by her husband JP. The conversation highlights the age difference and power dynamics in their relationship. The hosts express their interest in learning more about these cases and invite guests who are familiar with the cases to provide further insights. The conversation discusses the disturbing case of Micah Parsons and JP Grooms, focusing on the themes of grooming, sexual assault, and manipulation. It highlights the affair between Micah and JP, which led to JP's divorce from his wife. The conversation also reveals other victims who have come forward with similar stories of abuse at the church. The suspicious circumstances surrounding Micah's death, ruled as a suicide, are discussed, including the location discrepancy and the presence of shell casings. The conversation emphasizes the need to believe victims and exposes the dark reality of pedophilia and manipulation within religious institutions.

This week's episode focuses on the story of Shannon Watts. In August 2018, in Frederick, Colorado, Shanann Watts, her two young daughters, and her unborn child were found murdered. Investigators later revealed the perpetrator to be her husband, Chris Watts. To give the story more coverage, we made this episode in all Spanish. El episodio de esta semana se centra en la historia de Shannon Watts. En agosto de 2018, en Frederick, Colorado, Shanann Watts, sus dos hijas pequeñas y su hijo por nacer fueron encontrados asesinados. Más tarde, los investigadores revelaron que el autor era su marido, Chris Watts. Para darle mayor cobertura a la historia, hicimos este episodio en todo español. — Support Us: Get your Merch here! : https://www.cuentocrimenpodcast.com/category/all-products Buy us a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/cuentocrimenpodcast — Follow us: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cuentocrimenpodcast/?hl=en Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cuentocrimenpodcast?lang=en Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb-xq8FGsgxqDOyT4CsCfHA Twitter: https://twitter.com/CuentoCrimenPod Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61550192066426 — Email us a personal true crime encounter at: cuentocrimenpodcast@gmail.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Exploring the Nicole Kessinger Theory: Involvement in the Watts Family Murders This podcast discusses Nicole Kessinger's potential involvement in the Chris Watts family murder case, which includes the tragic death of Shanann Watts and her children, based on numerous suspicious activities and interactions before and after the murders. Presented by attorney Omar Serrano, he investigates Kessinger's conflicting statements, suspicious internet searches, phone call behavior, and the mystery of a specific cell tower ping. The podcast also discussed her awareness of the family's financial status and circumstances. Serrano's analysis poses questions over methods prosecutors should or could have used, and remains open-ended due to the speculative nature of the evidence. The podcast ends with an invitation for listeners with family law issues to contact the hosts.

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The Chris Watts case is a notorious criminal case that gained widespread media attention in 2018. Chris Watts was a seemingly ordinary family man living in Frederick, Colorado, with his wife, Shanann Watts, their two young daughters, Bella and Celeste, and baby Nico on the way. The family appeared to be living a typical suburban life, with Chris working at Anadarko Petroleum and Shanann working as a a distributer of THRIVE, a product from an MLM called Le-Vel. Because of this, she frequently shared updates about their life on Facebook, which she was unfortunately harshly criticized about after her death. On August 13, 2018, pregnant Shanann Watts and her two daughters were reported missing by her best friend, Nickole Atkinson. Initially, Chris Watts appeared on Denver 7 News, pleading for their safe return, but being a big weirdo about it. He was such a giggle little creep, and I posted the interview from them. However, as the investigation unfolded, inconsistencies in his statements and behavior raised suspicions. Between his neighbor's interview showing the security footage of Chris clearly being full of crap and Nichol Kessinger coming forward admitting to the affair, things weren't looking good for Christopher Watts. After being subjected to questioning by law enforcement officials, Terry Lee and Agent Coder, Chris Watts eventually confessed to murdering his wife Shanann and their two daughters. He admitted to ending Shanann in a fit of rage after a heated argument and then subsequently their two daughters. (I also posted the confession interrogation as well, sooo….) Tragically, the bodies of Shanann, Bella, and Celeste were found on the property of an oil company where Chris Watts worked. Shanann's body was buried in a shallow grave, while the bodies of the two girls were found submerged in oil tanks. Is Chris Watts innocent? Why would he do this? Is he just a narcissist? Perhaps a sociopath, or (according to him) because of his mistress Nichol Kessinger? (But, as far as I could find, Nichol and Chris Watts aren't even together anymore, so it's not as if that matters anyway.) Come along, Creepy Crew, this is a Body Cam and interrogation heavy episode about the Chris Watts Case. Comment “narcissist” if you have made it this far. . creepsandcreeps.com . INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/creepsandcr... .

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In part two of the Chris and Shanann Watts case, we discuss the brutal murders, the possible motivation and the shocking events that led up to the arrest and imprisonment of Chris Watts. Warning: This episode includes content that may be disturbing for young and/or sensitive listeners.

Chris and Shanann Watts were married for six years with two adorable daughters, Bella and CeCe, and a son on the way. In part one of this devastating story we talk about the early years of the Watts marriage and what could have led to the tragic events that unfolded on August 13, 2008.

In der ländlichen Idylle von Lacombe, Louisiana, haben sich Nanette und Stephen Krentel ihr Traumhaus gebaut. Nanette ist bei allen beliebt – und alle sind fassungslos darüber, was sich am 14. Juli 2017 ereignet hat. Bei der Arbeit erreicht Stephen der Anruf, dass sein Haus brennt. Als er eintrifft, steht schon alles in Flammen. Im Bad findet die Feuerwehr Nanettes verbrannte Leiche neben dem ebenfalls toten Hund. Man geht zunächst davon aus, dass sie starb, weil sie die Tiere retten wollte. Doch die Obduktion zeigt ein anderes Bild: Nanette wurde durch einen Kopfschuss ermordet. *** Werbung Bones & All Luca Guadagninos BONES AND ALL, mit Timothée Chalamet, Taylor Russell und Mark Rylance, ist eine eindringliche Symbiose aus Horror und Romantik mit Gänsehautgarantie.– Ab dem 24. November im Kino! https://www.warnerbros.de/de-de/filme/bones-and-all Discovery+ - Faking It Eines Tages verschwinden Shanann Watts und ihre beiden Töchter spurlos. Nach und nach gesteht Ehemann Chris die Tat. Jetzt untersuchen Experten alte Fernsehinterviews und Mitschnitte aus den Vernehmungen mit Chris Watts. https://www.discoveryplus.com/de/show/chris-watts-a-faking-it-special-discovery-originals-ga Abo erforderlich. Es gelten die Nutzungsbedingungen. Frosch für Wäsche zum Wohlfühlen. Mehr Infos unter www.frosch.at *** Mehr Infos zu unserem Podcast auf: www.tlc.de/podcast *** Gerne könnt ihr mit uns auch über unsere TLC Social-Media-Accounts diskutieren. Schreibt uns einfach unter dem Hashtag #Mordlausch, stellt Fragen und gebt eure Meinung ab. Wir freuen uns auf Eure Kommentare! Facebook: www.facebook.com/TLCde Instagram: @tlc_de *** Wir übernehmen keine Haftung für die Inhalte externer Links *** Host & Redaktion: Golnar Ali-Panahi Redaktion: Lily Mertens Producer: Tobias Engl Exec. Producers: Aniko Augustin, Ioannis Bravakos © Discovery Communications Deutschland GmbH & Co. KG

At approximately 1:45am on Monday, August 14th, 2018, Shanann Watts returned from a weekend business trip to her idyllic home and family. Footage from the security camera at the front door shows that she made it safely inside, but neither Shanann, nor her innocent children sound asleep in their beds, would ever be heard from again. In this week's episode, Laura describes the GRIMM circumstances surrounding the disappearance of the 34-year-old and her two young girls.

This episode in no way glorifies Chris Watts. Our hearts go out to Shanann, Bella, CeCe and little Niko.Support the show

In the first episode of the Murder House series, we'll discuss the legal trouble surrounding the Watts house on Saratoga Trail in Frederick, Colorado.  You'll hear from attorneys in the Denver area, as well as thoughts and opinions from neighbors on what should be done with the house and about the overwhelming amount of visitors that drive by the house. 

This week we go on a roller coaster of emotions with the true crime and paranormal from Colorado. Bettina begins the episode sharing the horrible deaths of Bella, CeCe, and pregnant Shanann Watts. A story that may leave a lump in your throat and a heaviness on your heart. Beth changes the pace of the episode with a conspiracy theory you may have never even known... all about the Denver Airport! Cheers Buy us a drink, email us, check out our website: https://linktr.ee/Killer.Hangover.Podcast For sources and photos from this episode check out our website: www.killerhangover.com Special thanks to our Patrons! We couldn't do this show without you! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/killerhangoverpodcast/message

This week we are going to be walking through American Murder: The Family Next Door, a documentary Netflix put out, all about the life of Shanann Watts. The documentary details her life, raising two kids, and how it got torn apart by the one person who was supposed to protect and love them. Sources for this episode: https://parade.com/1100204/jessicasager/shanann-watts-family-brother-react-netflix-documentary-chris-watts/ https://www.biography.com/news/chris-watts-wife-daughters-murder-mistress-confession-timeline#:~:text=June%202015%3A%20The%20Watts%20files,their%20%244%2C900%20in%20monthly%20expenses American Murder: The Family Next Door on Netflix --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thechalkline/support

Please join us for Part 2 of the Watts Family murders. Watts family murders - Wikipedia Shanann Watts Wiki, Age, Death, Husband, Children, Family, Biography & More - Biographied.com Chris Watts Wiki, Age, Girlfriend, Wife, Children, Family, Biography & More - Biographied.com What happened to Shanann Watts? All about victim from Netflix's new documentary (republicworld.com) The Unraveling of Chris Watts Before He Murdered His Family - E! Online (eonline.com) Chris Watts Said He Buried Shanann Watts Far From Kids On Purpose | Crime News (oxygen.com) Chris Watts: Timeline of Marriage to Shanann Watts, Affair, Murder (insider.com) Chris Watts: A Complete Timeline of the Murder of His Wife and Daughters - Biography Netflix viewers spot ‘creepy' detail in Chris Watts murder documentary | news.com.au — Australia's leading news site Chris Watts: The True Story of His Wife and Daughters' Murders (goodhousekeeping.com) What Netflix's ‘American Murder' Didn't Tell You About Chris and Shanann Watts | by Shannon Ashley | Honestly Yours | Medium American Murder: Is Chris Watts a Narcissist? | by Shannon Ashley | Honestly Yours | Medium Chris Watts confession: Dad details how he killed daughters, wife (coloradoan.com) There's More To Chris Watts' Murder Of His Family That Netflix Does Not Show | by Jennifer Friebely | Thoughts And Ideas | Medium https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chris-watts-murder-case-texts-with-wife-shanann-watts-released-weld-county-district-attorney/  https://thoughtcatalog.com/christine-stockton/2020/10/a-master-list-of-everything-off-about-chris-watts-mistress-nichol-kessinger/  https://www.nickiswift.com/289322/the-truth-about-chris-watts-mistress-nichol-kessinger/ 

When Shanann accepts a friend request on Facebook from a man named Chris Watts, she didn't think their connection would turn into anything more. She would eventually find herself married to him and living in Colorado with their two little girls. Even though their relationship had taken some hits along the way including financial issues and turmoil between Shanann and Chris's family, Shanann always believed that meeting Chris was the best decision of her life. What she couldn't have known was that one day Chris would take it. SOURCES Chris Watts: A Complete Timeline of the Murder of His Wife and Daughters. By: Rachel Chang https://www.biography.com/news/chris-watts-wife-daughters-murder-mistress-confession-timeline From a happy pregnancy announcement to a shallow grave. The full timeline of the Chris Watts murder case. By: Ashley Collman https://www.insider.com/chris-watts-murder-timeline-2018-12 Shannan Watts Confronted Chris Multiple Times About Suspicions of Affair Before He Murdered Her. By: Greg Hanlon and Adam Carlson. https://people.com/crime/shanann-watts-confronted-chris-affair-before-murders/ Chris Watts horrifying letters explain gruesome details of murder of wife and kids. By: Jane Lavender. https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/chris-watts-horrifying-letters-explain-22847070 Blood & Marriage: Chris Watts: With these hands By: Kathleen McKenna Hewtson Family members' full speeches to Chris Watts' at sentencing trial. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub5OxukecgA Shannon Rzucek Watts describes meeting Chris Watts as the best thing that ever happened to her. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mskGe1yO6Ic Orangefreesounds – Piano Melody http://www.orangefreesounds.com/piano-melody/ --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/thestrangeryouknowpodcast/message

Today we sit down and discuss Chris Watts and the Watts family murders.______________________________________________________________________________________________________Sources:Timeline 1Timeline 2My Daddy is a Hero: How Chris Watts Went from Family Man to Family Killer American Murder______________________________________________________________________________________________________Mental Health Resources:Suicide Domestic ViolenceSubstance AbuseChild AbuseElder Abuse______________________________________________________________________________________________________Follow us on InstagramPaul's Social MediaGot a case you want us to cover? Perhaps a question or some comments? Shoot us an email at TheOriginsOfEvil@Gmail.comSupport the show

Sandra Gibbons & Tera Palozola discuss the Netflix documentary, American Murder: The Family Next Door, which follows Chris Watts and the disappearance of his wife, Shanann Watts, and their two daughters, Bella and CeCe. Show notes: storydarlings.com/010 --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/storydarlings/message

In August of 2018, pregnant mother Shanann Watts and her two daughters, Bella and CeCe Watts, went missing from their suburban Colorado home. Shanann's husband, Chris Watts, went on TV that same night to plea for their safe return. But while the TV cameras were rolling, police were reviewing other footage that would prove damning to Chris Watts. Learn about the Watts family murders in this week's Morbid Tourism episode.

This episode, Matt and Special K discuss Netflix's documentary American Murder: The Family Next Door. "In 2018, 34-year-old Shanann Watts and her two young daughters disappear in Colorado. With the heartbreaking details emerging, the family's story made headlines around the world." - IMDb Subscribe, rate and review! Follow us on Facebook and Twitter (@ForRealPod).

On this week's episode M&B are left in tears talking about the tragic murders of Shanann Watts and her young daughters, Bella and C.C. at the hands of the one man they were supposed to be able to trust the most. Then they pull themselves together long enough to review the Lifetime movie, Chris Watts-Confession of a Killer.  

Chris Watts was a young family man from Fredrick, Colorado starting his new life with his wife Shanann Watts. Together they had two daughters, Bella who was 4, Celeste who they called “ce-cee” who was 3, and shanan was also 15 weeks pregnant with their third. Shanann announced on facebook on June 11th, 2018 that they were having their 3rd child, and posted a video of her surprising chris. Shanann regularly used facebook to share her family life with her friends and from the outside she was in a loving relationship with Chris. She also describes in multiple videos how he saved her and how much he's done for her and their daughters. There were never any signs of abuse or any issues within their relationship at all. To everyone around them they were living the perfect suburban family life.

On August 13th of 2018 father, Chris Watts murdered his entire family.  I dive into the past of Chris and Shanann Watts to find answers on how this tragic event took place.

On August 14, 2018 The entire town of Frederick, Colorado was on high alert and searching for Shanann Watts and her two daughters, Bella and Celeste. Chris Watts gave multiple news interviews following the disappearance of his family. He stood in front of cameras and played the part, or at least he tried to. On the evening of August 14th Chris would visit the Frederick Police Department and sit down with Special Agent Graham Coder, and set in motion the series of events that would ultimately lead to his conviction. But it wasn't the full story — And it wouldn't be his last.

On August 13, 2018 Nichole Atkinson would call Police and tell them she was concerned about her friend Shanann Watts, who was not responding to her calls — and appeared to be missing. Little did Nichole know that this call to Police would set in motion a series of events that would leave an entire nation in disbelief — and leave more questions than answers.

The third chapter of The Watts Tapes reviews the weekend leading up to the disappearance of Shanann Watts and her two daughters, Bella & Celeste. The weekend of August 10th, 2018 would provide subtle clues that could shed light into the motive behind this crime, and the trail of breadcrumbs would lead back to one person.— At least thats what we've been told. 

Since Chris Watts was convicted of killing his pregnant wife, Shanann Watts, and Two Daughters, Bella, and Celeste in August, 2018. There has been A lot of information that has come to the surface. With recent developments, we will look into parts of this case which still remain unsolved. And people that remain unpunished. 

In the early morning of August 13, 2018, Christopher Lee Watts, 33, murdered his pregnant wife Shanann Watts, 34, and their daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, in their home in Frederick, Colorado. Christopher and Shannann Watts had been married for si...

In the early morning of August 13, 2018, Christopher Lee Watts, 33, murdered his pregnant wife Shanann Watts, 34, and their daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, in their home in Frederick, Colorado. Christopher and Shannann Watts had been married for si...