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The tragic cases involving Constance Fisher and Lindsay Clancy are decades apart, but share similarities. Both mothers sought medical treatment before ultimately killing their three children, and attempting to take their own life; and their husbands chose to stand by them despite it.
Those who knew the Clancy family of Duxbury, Massachusetts would describe them as happy, loving, and completely normal. Lindsay Clancy was a labor and delivery nurse at Massachusetts General Hospital. Her husband Patrick worked as a consultant for a technology company, and by 2023, the couple had been married for six years and they had welcomed three beautiful children into their family: 5-year-old Cora, 3-year-old Dawson, and 7-month-old Callan. Neighbors recalled that Patrick was a very loving father. They would always see him in the backyard playing with his kids. Lindsay and Patrick never fought. They said "I love you" to each other ten times a day, and above all, they both worked hard to provide and care for their family. So when Lindsay was charged with the murders of her three small children, the shock and disbelief was palpable, and no one could wrap their heads around how something this unfathomable could happen to a family who seemed to love and value each other so much. Try our coffee!! - www.CriminalCoffeeCo.com Become a Patreon member -- > https://www.patreon.com/CrimeWeekly Shop for your Crime Weekly gear here --> https://crimeweeklypodcast.com/shop Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/CrimeWeeklyPodcast Website: CrimeWeeklyPodcast.com Instagram: @CrimeWeeklyPod Twitter: @CrimeWeeklyPod Facebook: @CrimeWeeklyPod ADS: 1. HelixSleep.com/CrimeWeekly - Use code HELIXPARTNER25 for 25% off all mattress orders and 2 free pillows! 2. Quince.com/CrimeWeekly - Get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order! 3. HelloFresh.com/CrimeWeeklyFree - Use code CRIMEWEEKLYFREE for FREE breakfast for life! 4. ZocDoc.com/CrimeWeekly - Download the ZocDoc app for free! 5. SimpliSafe.com/CrimeWeekly - Save up to 50% on any new system with a Fast Protect Plan!
When Lindsay Clancy's third child is born, her recovery seems to be different. The 32-year-old reaches out to her parents and her in-laws to help her manage the children and things around the home. Her husband, Patrick Clancy sets up a home office in the basement to work remotely, so he can be on hand to help. When Lindsay starts to have thoughts of suicide, and worse, hurting the children, she checks herself into the McLean Psychiatric Hospital, Five days after checking into a psychiatric hospital Lindsay Clancy is reportedly told she doesn't have postpartum depression. Husband Patrick Clancy tells friends that after her hospital stay, Lindsay seems to be getting better. She is sleeping better, interacting with friends and family, and going out in public without any difficulty. When Patrick Clancy asks his wife if she is having any suicidal thoughts, Lindsay Clancy says "No." Later on in the year, with his wife having been prescribed at least 13 different medications, Patrick Clancy texts a friend saying he's concerned that Lindsey has been prescribed too many medications. Patrick allegedly told friends that he worried she was suffering “the worst side effects possible” from one of her prescriptions. He says he thinks she is going through benzodiazepine withdrawal. On a Tuesday afternoon Lindsay Clancy sends a text to her husband to pick up takeout. As Patrick Clancy leaves to pick up dinner, Lindsay sends him a text to stop off by the drugstore and pick up some medicine for the children. Patrick Clancy stops by the drug store to pick up the medication but gets confused as to exactly which medicine to buy. He calls Lindsay Clancy on the phone, but she doesn't answer. She calls back a minute later. Patrick says she sounded like she was in the middle of something. Lindsay answers his question about the medication and Patrick picks it up and heads to the 3V to get their dinner. When Patrick Clancy comes home, he's met with silence. He finds his wife in the backyard. She had jumped out of a second-floor window after slitting her wrists. The children are in the basement, strangled, an exercise band still wound around their necks. Investigators revealed in court papers that Lindsay Clancy allegedly researched "ways to kill" before the deaths of her three children. Clancy is in a hospital ward, paralyzed after her second-floor fall, and faces three counts each of murder and strangulation. Joining Nancy Grace Today: Darryl Cohen – Former Assistant District Attorney (Fulton County, Georgia) Former Assistant State Attorney (Florida), and Defense Attorney: Cohen, Cooper, Estep, & Allen, LLC; Facebook: “Darryl B Cohen;” Twitter: @DarrylBCohen Dr. Angela Arnold – Psychiatrist, Atlanta, GA; Expert in the Treatment of Pregnant/Postpartum Women; Former Assistant Professor of Psychiatry, Obstetrics and Gynecology: Emory University; Former Medical Director of The Psychiatric Ob-Gyn Clinic at Grady Memorial Hospital; Voted “My Buckhead's Best Psychiatric Practice of 2022” Brian T. Gill - Former 30-year Boston Police Detective, Owner of BTG Investigations in Hanover Massachusetts; FB: BTG Investigations, LinkedIn: Brian T Gill Dr. Michelle Dupre– Forensic Pathologist and former Medical Examiner, Author: “Homicide Investigation Field Guide” & “Investigating Child Abuse Field Guide”, Ret. Police Detective Lexington County Sheriff's Department Julie Lewis - President & CEO, Digital Mountain, Inc. Flint McColgan - Boston Herald Reporter; Twitter/X: @FlintMcColgan See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Those who knew the Clancy family of Duxbury, Massachusetts would describe them as happy, loving, and completely normal. Lindsay Clancy was a labor and delivery nurse at Massachusetts General Hospital. Her husband Patrick worked as a consultant for a technology company, and by 2023, the couple had been married for six years and they had welcomed three beautiful children into their family: 5-year-old Cora, 3-year-old Dawson, and 7-month-old Callan. Neighbors recalled that Patrick was a very loving father. They would always see him in the backyard playing with his kids. Lindsay and Patrick never fought. They said "I love you" to each other ten times a day, and above all, they both worked hard to provide and care for their family. So when Lindsay was charged with the murders of her three small children, the shock and disbelief was palpable, and no one could wrap their heads around how something this unfathomable could happen to a family who seemed to love and value each other so much. Try our coffee!! - www.CriminalCoffeeCo.com Become a Patreon member -- > https://www.patreon.com/CrimeWeekly Shop for your Crime Weekly gear here --> https://crimeweeklypodcast.com/shop Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/CrimeWeeklyPodcast Website: CrimeWeeklyPodcast.com Instagram: @CrimeWeeklyPod Twitter: @CrimeWeeklyPod Facebook: @CrimeWeeklyPod ADS: 1. Prose Custom, made-to-order haircare from Prose has your name all over it. Go to Prose.com/CRIMEWEEKLY for your FREE in-depth hair consultation and get 50% off your first subscription order today, PLUS 15% off and free shipping every subscription order after that! 2. Alo Moves Take care this holiday season with an Alo Moves wellness routine that fits your schedule. Get a 30-day Alo Moves subscription and 20% off an annual membership by going to AloMoves.com and use code CRIMEWEEKLYVIP. 3. Liquid I.V. Grab your Liquid I.V. Hydration Multiplier Sugar-Free in bulk nationwide at Costco, or you can get 20% off ANYTHING you order when you go to LiquidIV.com and use code CRIMEWEEKLY at checkout. 4. IQBAR Refuel smarter with IQBAR'S Ultimate Sampler Pack. That's 7 IQBARs, 4 IQMIX sticks, and 4 IQJOE sticks. And now, our special podcast listeners get 20% off all IQBAR products, plus FREE shipping. To get 20%, just text WEEKLY to 64000. 5. SKIMS Believe the hype - SKIMS has over 100,000 five star reviews for a reason. SKIMS Holiday Gift Shop is now open, and get free shipping on orders over $75 at SKIMS.com. After you place your order, be sure to let them know we sent you! Select "podcast" in the survey and select our show, Crime Weekly, in the dropdown menu that follows.
This week, Drewby and Yergy head down to Duxbury, Massachusetts, to discuss the case of Lindsay Marie Clancy, a young mother of three who worked as a labor and delivery nurse in Boston. She, her husband Patrick, and their three children, Cora, Dawson, and Callan, were the picture-perfect upper-middle-class family. That was until Lindsay, who had been battling symptoms of postpartum psychosis, took the lives of her three children before attempting to take her own life by jumping from her bedroom window. Support Our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/themiserymachine PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/themiserymachine Join Our Facebook Group: https://t.co/DeSZIIMgXs?amp=1 Instagram: miserymachinepodcast Twitter: misery_podcast Discord: https://discord.gg/kCCzjZM #themiserymachine #podcast #truecrime Source Material: https://www.foxnews.com/us/photos-show-childrens-toys-still-cover-lindsay-clancys-backyard-weeks-after-kids-killed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2ITTgqxSus&ab_channel=EVIL_EXISTS https://www.patriotledger.com/story/news/2023/02/10/unsealed-court-documents-reveal-widespread-support-of-lindsay-clancy/69886273007/ https://www.nhregister.com/news/article/heartbreak-quiet-ct-street-lindsay-clancy-grew-17746933.php https://gobobcats.com/sports/acrobatics-tumbling/roster/lindsay-musgrove/483 https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickwclancy/ https://nypost.com/2023/02/14/massachusetts-mom-lindsay-clancy-was-devoted-parent-who-loved-her-kids-friends-say/ https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=143872018581126&set=pcb.143872061914455 https://www.insideedition.com/lindsay-clancy-timeline-of-events-in-the-case-of-massachusetts-mom-accused-of-killing-her-3 https://nypost.com/2023/02/03/lindsay-clancy-was-overmedicated-before-killing-kids/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2612084/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDphC_Hubh8&ab_channel=CrimeLinesandLies https://www.masslive.com/news/2023/05/lindsay-clancy-accused-of-killing-her-children-moved-to-new-hospital-documents-say.html https://twitter.com/PlymouthCtyDAO/status/1618418510409142274 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOJuQ_qg3jY&ab_channel=Law%26CrimeNetwork https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2023/02/15/lindsay-clancy-duxbury-postpartum-psychosis-explained/11247303002/ https://www.newyorker.com/science/annals-of-medicine/what-we-still-dont-understand-about-postpartum-psychosis https://www.parents.com/im-a-postpartum-survivor-but-i-could-have-been-lindsay-clancy-7101357 https://www.masslive.com/politics/2023/02/mass-bill-could-help-postpartum-defendants-like-lindsay-clancy-get-therapy-not-jail-time.html https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2023/02/07/lindsay-clancy-duxbury-mom-arraignment-accused-murder-kids/ https://www.boston.com/news/crime/2023/02/10/lindsay-clancy-duxbury-mom-criminal-case-trial-legal-experts/ https://abc7chicago.com/lindsay-clancy-mother-charged-children-strangled-killed/12742169/ https://www.gofundme.com/f/patrick-clancy-donations https://web.archive.org/web/20230328153638/https://www.ctinsider.com/news/article/lindsay-clancy-wallingford-ct-children-funeral-17763576.php https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/249007432/cora-lindsay-clancy
In this episode, Annie discusses Lindsay Clancy, the Massachussetts mother who is accused of killing her three young children on January 24, 2022. New information from hearings and newly unsealed court documents show that allegedly researched “ways to kill” prior to their deaths. Athena Club: Head to https://www.athenaclub.com and try their Gentle Body Scrub for FREE with code AE at checkout Lumi Labs: To learn more about microdosing THC go to https://www.microdose.com and use code: (AE) to get free shipping & 30% off your first order. Apostrophe: To get started, just go to https://www.apostrophe.com/AE and use our code AE at sign up and get your first visit for only five dollars! PDS DEBT: Head over to https://www.pdsdebt.com/save to get your free debt assessment today. Follow the podcast on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@serialouslypodcast Follow the podcast on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/serialouslypod/ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/annieelise All Social Media Links: https://www.flowcode.com/page/annieelise_ SERIALously FB Page: https://www.facebook.com/SERIALouslyAnnieElise/ About Me: https://annieelise.com/ For Business Inquiries: 10toLife@WMEAgency.com
The papers have been signed by the governors of Idaho and Arizona to have Lori Vallow extradited to face conspiracy to commit murder charges for her 4th husband, Charles Vallow, and her niece's ex-husband, Brandon Boudreaux. Pedro Argote is still on the run 6 days after allegedly killing Maryland Judge Andrew Wilkinson the same day the judge ruled in favor of his wife in their divorce proceedings. Pedro did not attend the hearing. He is accused of driving to Judge Wilkinson's home and shooting him in the driveway. He died from his injuries. Lindsay Clancy is accused of murdering her 3 children, Cara (5), Dawson (3) & Callan (8 mo) in what her attorneys say stemmed from postpartum depression. The Hiding Place:https://greatnonprofits.org/org/channel-missions-aka-the-hiding-placeAll links: https://linktr.ee/prettyliesandalibisMERCH SALE10% off with code SHERLOCKMerch: prettyliesandalibis.myshopify.comDonate: PayPal - prettyliesandalibis@gmail.com Venmo - @prettyliesalibisBuy Me A Coffee - https://www.buymeacoffee.com/prettyliesrCash App- PrettyliesandalibisThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/4447192/advertisement
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In this episode, I talk about Lindsay Clancy researching ways to kill on her phone. I also talk about Jamaal Bowman being charged with a misdemeanor for pulling a fire alarm. I finish by talking about a sexual assault charge against Dwight Howard. Sources: https://www.boston.com/news/crime/2023/10/25/duxbury-mother-lindsay-clancy-court-documents-murder-case-evidence/ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12672747/Democrat-Jamaal-Bowman-criminally-CHARGED-pulling-fire-alarm-Capitol-Hill.html https://nypost.com/2023/10/25/sports/dwight-howard-accused-of-sexual-assault-by-man-in-lawsuit/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/1morethingwsologreen/support
In a shocking turn of events that has shaken the community of Duxbury, Lindsay Clancy, a 32-year-old mother, has been indicted on murder charges in the deaths of her three young children. The indictment was announced on Friday by the Plymouth County District Attorney's Office. Clancy is now facing a hefty weight of charges – three counts each for murder and strangulation – in the tragic deaths of her children: 5-year-old Cora, 3-year-old Dawson, and an infant, 8-month-old Callan Clancy. Previously, Clancy had been charged in the Plymouth District Court. However, following Friday's grand jury indictments, the gravity of the case has led to it being transferred to Plymouth Superior Court, which typically adjudicates more severe crimes On January 24th, inside the Clancy's Duxbury residence, a horrendous series of events allegedly transpired. Prosecutors contend that Lindsay Clancy strangled her own children with exercise bands during the brief time her husband, Patrick, was out fetching dinner. Following this act, in what may have been an attempt at suicide, Clancy is said to have leaped from a second-story window. In a heart-wrenching scene as described from the court documents, Patrick Clancy found his injured wife outside their home upon his return. In the chilling 911 call he made, Patrick could be heard frantically inquiring of his wife, “Where are the kids?” His subsequent discovery of their fate was grim: She replied, “In the basement.” Relaying this harrowing 911 recording, Assistant District Attorney Jennifer Sprague remarked on Patrick's discovery: “He can then be heard screaming in agony and shock as he found his children. His screams seem to get louder and more agonized as the time passes.” While the older children, Cora and Dawson, were declared deceased that very night, young Callan tragically passed away three days later in Boston Children's Hospital due to complications arising from asphyxia. During the February arraignment, the courtroom witnessed contrasting representations of Lindsay Clancy's mental health prior to the alleged crimes. Kevin J. Reddington, Clancy's defense attorney, portrayed her as a loving mother whose mental health had deteriorated notably post the birth of Callan, her youngest. In fact, Clancy had been prescribed an extensive range of psychiatric medications from October 2022 to January 2023. After the incident, Clancy allegedly informed her husband about experiencing a “moment of psychosis” and hearing a voice urging her to harm her children and herself. However, this was contested by prosecutors who cited Patrick Clancy's statement that his wife had never mentioned hearing voices or used the term “psychosis” before. Prosecutor Jennifer Sprague provided a grim perspective on the matter, alleging Clancy's actions were calculated. She stated that Lindsay Clancy "gave herself the time and privacy needed to commit the murders, and then she strangled each child in the place where they should have felt the safest: At home with their mom.” Post these harrowing events, Lindsay Clancy was admitted to the hospital due to her sustained injuries and subsequently committed to Tewksbury Hospital for psychiatric care. As per the latest updates from the DA's office on Friday, Clancy currently resides in a medical facility, being held without bail. The community now awaits her arraignment on the latest charges in Plymouth Superior Court. As of this reporting, Boston.com has been in touch with Reddington for his remarks on the updated charges. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com
This episode continues the conversation with Dianne Berg, author of What's behind our enduring fascination with wives and mothers who kill. In this episode, Nat Cardona and Diane talk about what causes wives and mothers to commit murder and how the public, judicial system and medical fields contribute and/or react to these criminal events. To listen to the first half of the interview with Dianne, click here. To learn more about Dianne Berg, click here. Episode transcript Note: The following transcript was created by Slack and may contain misspellings and other inaccuracies as it was generated automatically: Welcome to Lee Enterprise's Late Edition Crime Beat Chronicles. I'm your host Nat Cardona. In this episode, we're continuing the exploration of a niche area of true crime stories, the obsession that fans seem to have with killer wives and mothers. We're back with Diane Berg, a professor at Clark University and author of the article What's behind our enduring fascination with wives and mothers who kill? She is very much an expert on this complex topic. If you haven't listened to the first episode, go back and listen to the first half of my interview, please. Otherwise, we pick up the conversation back up by discussing some causes of what makes mothers and wives kill. I'm a mother myself and I'm, I'm actually pregnant. So I'm gonna have a baby in four weeks. I'm actually pregnant, but I'm having a baby in four weeks. Thank you. So I'm kind of like, you know, going through all these things and, you know, very much in the, you know, what makes me different from these other women who have done this historically or in more recent history. But the thing that comes to mind is there is just something so grabbing about when women do this, because you carry the child for so long and you birth the child and it's so much more intimate than the father who's removed and can kind of clean his hands in the sense of when there is a murder, you can go. You know, and that's because he's not involved. So in the natural process of pregnancy and birth. So, yeah, when there are these women historically or modern day that do this, it's like, well, you know, you just sit there and go, how how could this happen? How could this happen? And you do. The next point I want to get at is the openness nowadays that we have about talking about postpartum depression, because there seems to be a link with that postpartum psychosis. And you mentioned it's Lynsey Clancy who's kind of the most recent with that. So in your research and I is something you mentioned, I just want to clarify. Have you you've seen a difference between, let's say, 20, 30 years ago media coverage and nowadays media coverage of like like just jump into that. Okay. I mean, I kind of want to take those in order, if I may. So, yeah. First, going back to what you were talking about, how okay, when a man does it. Yes, that's terrible and bad and they're they're bad people. But when a woman does it, when a mother does it, especially, there's all this kind of language of the unnatural and the monstrous. And again, going back to, you know, right now, I've been rereading Euripides Medea all week to get ready for this class, because Medea is like the her murderous mother. Right. And a lot of times these these early modern mothers who kill their children, who, as you point out statistically are fewer than men who kill their children. It is then is now like men commit way more domestic violence than women do. But women do it. It gets more attention. And it's because of this unnatural list. Right? Women mothers are supposed to be, as you say, it's the natural process whereby we actually think we incubate the child. And there's a lot of that kind of language of like, how could she like a bloody like a bloody tiger? A tiger wouldn't do a thing like this. A snake wouldn't do a thing like this. The child that she nursed in her body for 40 weeks and fed with her breasts, and there's all this kind of language of like how unnatural this is that you would destroy your own creation in this way. And I think that's really deep. Obviously, that plays it. I think at a really macro level, it plays into fears about like God destroying the earth. But I think on the more kind of social and cultural level, it just flies in the face of everything that women are supposed to be. We're supposed to be kind and gentle and nurturing and giving and selfless, and all of these things are intimately tied up with our concept of the mother, right? The mother just gives and gives and gives. The mother is is a a you know, a vessel that never runs dry. Right. That's what it's supposed to be. And so if a mother not only fails to deliver on all those counts, but actually turns on her children and even destroys them, this like, taps into, I think, some really elemental fears. And I think that's why we're so interested in it. And I think that's why we stay interested in it. And as a mother, I'm a mother as well. I think it's it strikes a particular chord because it's that on the one hand, yes, there's that schadenfreude or. Right, There's that. Well, I didn't do that. You didn't do that? Yeah. My, my, my kid cried all day, too, but I didn't, you know, throw him out a window. There's that. But there's also the more interesting thing is that on some level, I think anyone who has ever had to care for a small child, an infant, especially if you have recently given birth and your own body and your own mind are still you know, you're not yourself yet. I think anyone who's been in that position has been that exhausted, that frustrated, felt that inadequate, felt how hard it is to live up to all those things. I just enumerated that mothers are supposed to be can understand how it happens. And that's terrifying that there but for the grace of God go. I write that if I hadn't had my support network, if I hadn't had my level of education, if I hadn't known how to find help. Right. That the I might have done a thing like that. And I think that's why we can't look away. I think that's a big part of it. Yeah, that is actually one of the notes that I was just rereading here is that it's hard to make peace with that because, you know, whether it be it's like take guys who who commit murder, there's often the you find out that they had childhood trauma they were abused but then there's plenty of people say, well, so was I. But I didn't it you know kill five people. It's kind of the same thing here. It's there's there's so many women who deal with postpartum depression and then it's very easy to say, well, I didn't do that and I would never think of doing that. But it's exactly what you say. It's when you stare in the face, it's like, well, it's a really thin line of what, you know, the possibility of it. It's just it's a weird thing to kind of I just grapple with an iron out. Yeah. And if there's actually, you know, things out of whack that would respond to medication, this isn't just even a this goes beyond just being exhaustion of being overwhelmed, feeling inadequate, all of which are incredibly legitimate things that, you know, I certainly experienced as a mother of three children. But then you actually add in some sort of, you know, chemical balance or mental illness or, you know, various factors. Women have no resources. They have no help, they have no money, no one cares about them. We have a government that cares very much about fetuses or at least claims to care very much about fetuses. It doesn't care so much about babies or their mothers. You know, if they wind up needing extra help. So in answer to your question about the sort of coverage of these things, I do think and I hope I'm not being optimistic, I do think that I'm seeing a shift in the coverage. It's not that there wasn't any mention when the when the Yates murders happened in 2001 or maybe it was. Yes, it was one. There was talk of the fact that this woman hadn't for one reason or another, she didn't get the care that she needed. And there were a lot of factors at play there. She and her husband were evangelical Christians. They were part of this quiver full movement, which basically they want you to have as many children for Jesus as possible. It's God's will. You just keep having children as long as God sends them to you. She was homeschooling them all she had already had. I can't remember now if it was after her second or third child. She'd had a pretty serious case of postpartum depression to the point where her her gynecologist said she shouldn't have any more children. This is going to happen again. It's going to get worse. But they had, I think, two more children after that. Anyway. She was being insufficiently monitored. I mean, there was a lot of talk about the fact that this woman was, in her own way, a victim. And there was a lot of finger pointing at the husband. His name was Rusty. Rusty Yates for continuing to, you know, have children with her and allowing her to homeschool the children. She had five children under the age of seven and, you know, wasn't taking her medication. And there was a lot going on there. So it wasn't that the coverage of her was completely unsympathetic, but there was an awful lot of she's a monster. She she couldn't have done it if she because the insanity defense, they're doing same thing with Lindsey Clancy. The prosecution is saying, well, no, no, she can't have been insane because she knew what she was doing. She was able to make a plan and carried out both Lindsey Clancy, Andrea Yates and Margaret Robinson, for that matter, wait until their husbands were away and they knew they had a window in order to commit the crimes. And the prosecution in Clancy's case and in this case have argued that that's impossible, because if she was insane, she couldn't have made a plan, she couldn't have carried it out, etc., etc.. Of course, we know that's not true. People, people suffering from psychosis can commit, make plans and carry them out all time. And it was initially charged with first degree murder and found guilty. And the jury didn't. They could have given her the death penalty. They they didn't, but they sent a sort of life in prison initially. And then they appealed several years later using an insanity defense, which which succeeded I don't actually think I don't have a crystal ball, but I think that the passage of 22 years is going to have made a difference in the Lindsey Clancy case. She is, you know, remains in a psychiatric facility. I, I think that there would be a great outcry if she actually were brought to trial for murder charges. And I think that there's been so much more in the press about postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis in the wake of Lindsey Clancy's. I mean, it's a crime. I but I hesitate to use that word. But in the wake of this very tragic incident, there's been so much more coverage of that and a lot more people coming forward, a lot of kind of op ed pieces, people saying, I have postpartum depression. This is what it's like. I you know, again, that could have been me. So I feel like there's a broader discussion about it. And you know, it was just I think two weeks ago that the government approved this medication for women with postpartum depression to be more widely distributed, which I feel is like a huge step forward. And, you know, I mean, I can talk obviously, I can talk about this all day. At the root of this, the fact that it's 2023 and we're only now it seems like having a really serious conversation about this just speaks to the degree to which women's issues are always pushed down the list. Right. Women's health, women's wellbeing, women's mental health. It's always bumped down the list. And of course, again, we're going back to mothers, right? Mothers aren't supposed to need anything. We're supposed to take care of everyone all the time and no one takes care of us. So I feel like, yes, progress. But wow, it's, you know, the 21st century. I know. We need to take a quick break, so don't go too far. It's fascinating to me. And I wonder if it's repeatedly fascinating to you just if this small increment of time is where we're starting to see that little switch turn to, you know, more in favor of the other possibilities that could be at play here. But 2023 compared to, you know, 16, 16, we're not you know, how how in the media things are typecasting with these types of crimes. Is it for it to be so not that much different? Is, oh, you know, how many how many things can you count, How many topics can you say are like that? Yeah, I mean, that's a great money generator. So I mean, I mean. Margaret Vincent, you know, I mean, she said ultimately that she had been, you know, she had fallen under evil influences and basically the devil made her do it. And you know, there's this great woodcut on the cover of the pamphlet about her, which is called The Pity Lost Mother Goes on, but we'll just call it a pity loss. Mother, for the sake of brevity that shows her with her children and she's strangling them and the devil is standing behind her. And he's got horns and claws and and he's he's basically making her do it. And after she had been in prison when she was apprehended, she said that she had been, you know, laboring under this terrible delusion. And there had been, like Roman Catholic neighbors who were trying to persuade her to become a Catholic. And that's like a bad influence at this time. And once she had been spoken to at length by a proper, you know, Protestant minister, she repented and recanted. And obviously she had to be hanged for it, but she at least was able to repent and make her peace. And so, like the the the end game of the pamphlet is that since she was truly repentant, you know, maybe she can be saved, right? Like, her body has to die, but maybe her soul can still be saved. But the important part is the repentance, right? Kind of say, yes, I did that. Yes, it was wrong in those days, you know, like, you know, I like to say yesterday's demonic possession might be today's postpartum psychosis or the other way around. Right. That, you know, these behaviors, there's got to be some kind of a just be an explanation as to be a reason. So, you know, if it's that, you know, I have a chemical imbalance and I need to, you know, take medication and be treated for it or like, oh, like I was actually possessed by it by a demon when this happened. There has to be some kind of resolution and you have to be sorry. Do you know off the top of your head with Lindsay Clancy if she said anything like in. Yeah, she said at her arraignment or I guess her she didn't speak at her arraignment, but her her counsel said that she said that she heard a voice in her head when her husband was gone. She sent her husband out on an errand. He was working from home because she was that she was sick. He had been working from home and she was doing well, apparently seemed to be doing well and hadn't had a good day with the children playing outside in the snow. And he was working from his home office and she texted him, recalled him and said, let's get takeout. And he said, Yeah. And so he sent him to a place that was about a half hour's drive away. And she said she heard a voice in her head telling her that she had to do it now, because if she didn't do it now, she wouldn't have another chance. That sounds pretty psychotic to me right? Andrea Yates said something pretty similar that, you know, she she knew that she would have to do it. Now. This was the chance and she had to take it. And something would have prevented them from doing these things. If, you know, if they hadn't taken these these opportunities, created, you know, these opportunities and and taken them. That's all we've really heard from her thus far. But apparently, she you know, she told her husband that you've done it. The husband has argued very movingly. I think that she deserves compassion and not condemnation, and that if he can forgive her, then, you know, then the people, the people on Facebook comment threads should probably, you know, dig deep and either find compassion or find the ability to get off that Facebook comment thread. Right. Oh, my gosh. Amen to that. I mean, and that that kind of brings me to my my parting thoughts here was how you ended your piece was there. It seems to be that there's two lanes of thought here when someone's digesting all of the true crime that they can, especially when it comes to wives of mothers. It seems it's the what did you call it, the shattered fruit. I can't. It just means that kind of it's a nasty word and there isn't a word in English that means this. Exactly. It basically means that the sort of pleasure, often a kind of guilty pleasure. We take in the misfortunes of others. But yeah, exactly. Exactly. So, you know, when when the Lindsay Clancey situation occurred, I know my immediate thought was like, oh my goodness, like, you know, social media, like, that's going to be an absolute pit of despair. You know, if you do the things that people the people's hot takes. Right. But but I feel like that visceral reaction that people have where they feel like they have to get in there and say, look, she's a monster and she should go to hell. Oh, those poor little angels, etc., etc.. That's very much part and parcel of that. Pushing it away. That can't be me. I'm not like that where you know, I'm not like that. I'm not a person who with my children, I'm not a person who would kill my husband. I'm not a person who, you know, would do X, Y, Z, terrible thing. And so I have to jump in here and do this very kind of like performative public condemnation of this thing to kind of distance myself from it, but also kind of reassure myself that, you know, that's not me, I'm different than that. I'm better than that. Right? That's actually the flip side of things. The other lane is what you had mentioned is that the appeal might lie in the fact that, oh, that light bulb thing, we might be capable of these things. It's kind of funny. And the thought that immediately came to me and this is always how I've felt about true crime, and especially on this topic, is like it's better to what is it the devil you know versus the devil you don't know, right? Yeah, that's just right. Well, I've been, you know, again, I've sort of been down this kind of classical tragedy rabbit hole this week. You know, I come back to what do we get out of this kind of stuff, Like, you know, here you are. You confess to being like you're constantly devouring this material, right? I do it. Lots of people I know do it. True crime, you know, has been so massive in recent years. Right. People just devour this stuff. I mean, it's always been very popular. It does seem like it's really kind of having a moment culturally. There's what we get from this stuff is is catharsis, Right? I mean, it's the same thing as as classical tragedy, right? We we watched the terrible thing happen, but the terrible thing hasn't happened to us. Now, if we're talking about a drama, if we're talking about Medea or Oedipus Rex or even Hamlet, yet the body, you know, the bodies are littering the stage and all these terrible things have happened. We have the the purging of pity and terror that comes. But no one has actually died. Nothing terrible has actually happened. We leave the theater feeling kind of scoured out and then we go and we we get a coffee and we chat about it. Right. But with the true crime stuff, someone has died. Something a real tragedy has occurred. And yet I still feel like it's that catharsis that you know, we see it, we watch it. You know, people watch to watch these trials when they can. Right? They need to see how it ends. And then they can walk away from it and it hasn't happened to us. Mhm. Right. We sort of had the, the, the purging of pity and terror but something terrible really has happened and still it's not like when a play is over and now the play is over. As you say, these stories happen over and over again. It's so, so accessible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, I mean yeah that, yeah, yeah. And then there's that other thing. Go ahead, Go ahead. No, no, it's just kind of. I just feel like this. This appeal is kind of timeless, and it speaks to something in in like, the human condition. And I'm not sure it's a very nice thing in the human condition, but it certainly is. There. That's my thinking. Exactly. Yeah. It really it all ties in together. It's just. Yeah, definitely something to chew on, to use. I mean, what's next for you in this grand scheme of things. And I think going forward, I mean that's kind of a really open ended question. I, I mean, I'm excited for this, this course. I'm going to start teaching on Monday, which is again, we're going to start with with Medea and we're moving on to so then we're moving on to some everything inside of mothers and we're going to move on to some some women who kill, too. I don't know. We're moving on to petty tyrants after that. So we'll have some texts about fathers who abuse their authority by killing their wives and or children. And we're going to end up with wives who who kill their their husbands sort of petty traitors. And I will be putting kind of early modern texts in conversation with more modern cases throughout the semester. So I think it's going to be really fun and interesting. And I'm hoping my my I have I have every intention of writing a book, which is I have a title. It's going to be the same title as my seminar are actually Pulp Pulp nonfiction, Oh, True Crime and Fake News and Early Modern England. So that's that's my next big project. I'm currently working on a of what I think is going to be more public facing piece which is kind of different but kind of not. It's actually about Barbie and Paradise Lost. Milton's Paradise Lost, which I think is kind of interesting, is sort of Barbie Land as a kind of Eden and Ken as a kind of Adam figure. But that's that's what I'm kind of working on right now on the side. We'll see what happens with that. But yeah, I think going forward, you know, it's going to kind of be more murder and mayhem for me. I really safe to say that's the life, right. I hasten to add, I'm actually a very nice person. And it's funny that I know. I mean, I have three children of my own. And I think they they think it's they're a little bemused that this is kind of like my my reputation. I was once at a conference and I was introduced to someone and he said, Oh, you're the infanticide woman. And I was like, Please don't call me that. But, you know, yeah, I have children, I have children, I have dogs and cats. I, you know, I, I'm, I'm a nice person. I swear to God, you know, I'm vegan. I've been begging for for a very long time. So, yeah, this is all purely intellectual, I assure you. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, Well, these are wrenching, all of that. And is there any way, if a listener is interested in following you and is not obviously at one of your classes at university, one of your son winners at university, is there a way that people can follow what you're doing or publishing. A I'm not really very I I'm not on Twitter or whatever it's called this week, so I have to go. Yeah, right. Perhaps going forward at this at this point, mainly, you know, just through, through what I publish. Yeah. And up to Clark University. I, I teach English at Clark University in Massachusetts. Okay. Okay. So Google search, people. And that is that, my friends, special thanks to Diane Berg for joining the show and then giving us a look at what's mesmerized true crime fans for centuries. Thanks for listening to Late Edition Crime Beat Chronicles. Hit that subscribe button so you don't miss what's coming next. See you later on.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In a shocking turn of events that has shaken the community of Duxbury, Lindsay Clancy, a 32-year-old mother, has been indicted on murder charges in the deaths of her three young children. The indictment was announced on Friday by the Plymouth County District Attorney's Office. Clancy is now facing a hefty weight of charges – three counts each for murder and strangulation – in the tragic deaths of her children: 5-year-old Cora, 3-year-old Dawson, and an infant, 8-month-old Callan Clancy. Previously, Clancy had been charged in the Plymouth District Court. However, following Friday's grand jury indictments, the gravity of the case has led to it being transferred to Plymouth Superior Court, which typically adjudicates more severe crimes On January 24th, inside the Clancy's Duxbury residence, a horrendous series of events allegedly transpired. Prosecutors contend that Lindsay Clancy strangled her own children with exercise bands during the brief time her husband, Patrick, was out fetching dinner. Following this act, in what may have been an attempt at suicide, Clancy is said to have leaped from a second-story window. In a heart-wrenching scene as described from the court documents, Patrick Clancy found his injured wife outside their home upon his return. In the chilling 911 call he made, Patrick could be heard frantically inquiring of his wife, “Where are the kids?” His subsequent discovery of their fate was grim: She replied, “In the basement.” Relaying this harrowing 911 recording, Assistant District Attorney Jennifer Sprague remarked on Patrick's discovery: “He can then be heard screaming in agony and shock as he found his children. His screams seem to get louder and more agonized as the time passes.” While the older children, Cora and Dawson, were declared deceased that very night, young Callan tragically passed away three days later in Boston Children's Hospital due to complications arising from asphyxia. During the February arraignment, the courtroom witnessed contrasting representations of Lindsay Clancy's mental health prior to the alleged crimes. Kevin J. Reddington, Clancy's defense attorney, portrayed her as a loving mother whose mental health had deteriorated notably post the birth of Callan, her youngest. In fact, Clancy had been prescribed an extensive range of psychiatric medications from October 2022 to January 2023. After the incident, Clancy allegedly informed her husband about experiencing a “moment of psychosis” and hearing a voice urging her to harm her children and herself. However, this was contested by prosecutors who cited Patrick Clancy's statement that his wife had never mentioned hearing voices or used the term “psychosis” before. Prosecutor Jennifer Sprague provided a grim perspective on the matter, alleging Clancy's actions were calculated. She stated that Lindsay Clancy "gave herself the time and privacy needed to commit the murders, and then she strangled each child in the place where they should have felt the safest: At home with their mom.” Post these harrowing events, Lindsay Clancy was admitted to the hospital due to her sustained injuries and subsequently committed to Tewksbury Hospital for psychiatric care. As per the latest updates from the DA's office on Friday, Clancy currently resides in a medical facility, being held without bail. The community now awaits her arraignment on the latest charges in Plymouth Superior Court. As of this reporting, Boston.com has been in touch with Reddington for his remarks on the updated charges. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com
The Pew Research Center found in 2022 that nearly 25% of top-ranked podcasts were true crime-related. In the next set of episodes, host Nat Cardona speaks with Dianne Berg, college professor and author of What's behind our enduring fascination with wives and mothers who kill, to explore why this niche of true crime fascinates so many. In this first episode, we discuss the history of the public's nearly-fanatical interest in mothers and wives who commit murder and why societies are particularly fascinated by these stories. To learn more about Dianne Berg, click here. Episode transcript Note: The following transcript was created by Slack and may contain misspellings and other inaccuracies as it was generated automatically: Hey there, as a listener of this podcast, you must be at least somewhat into the whole true crime genre. But did you know that True Crime is the most common topic among top ranked podcasts? To be specific? The Pew Research Center reports that in 2022 almost a quarter of top podcasts are primarily about true crime. Welcome to Lee Enterprise's Late Edition Crime Beat Chronicles. I'm your host Nat Cardona. In the next two episodes, we're going to explore a very niche area of true crime stories. The obsession that fans seem to have with killer wives and mothers. But how does one even begin to tackle such a complex topic? Enter Dianne Berg. She's a professor at Clark University and the author of the article, what's behind our enduring fascination with wives and mothers who kill her? Research traces this phenomenon back to literature from the 15 hundreds and 16 hundreds with clearly printed details of the early fascination that people had with murderesses. And here's my interview with Dianne just to kick things off. Why don't you just tell me a little bit about yourself and your background and what you do? Nowadays. Ok. I, that's kind of hard to answer. I mean, where he, ok. Well, once upon a time before I decided to become an academic, I, was, the education program manager at a Museum of Medieval and Renaissance Arms and Armor, in Worcester, Massachusetts, called the Higgins Armory Museum, which is now sadly defunct. I left years before, it, it went out, sort of went out of business. But while I was there, I learned a great deal about, armor and, and weapons and warfare and medieval politics and things. I was always very interested in medieval renaissance, history and literature. But not so much that side of it. But it kind of opened up, a different window in, into these things for me doing that work. And when I left there, I realized that what I had enjoyed most about that job was researching and developing education programs. So, essentially, you know, going down research rabbit holes and writing things up. So I went and I got a master's degree and I did the master's degree basically to see if I wanted to get a phd. And after I had finished that, then I decided that I did indeed want to get a phd. So, my dissertation, my doctoral dissertation focused on kind of, literary representations of true crime between about 1550, 1650. And it was very interesting because the thing that jumped out at me when the project first started, the sort of germ of the project came about by accident when I was researching something completely different. And I came across this pamphlet about a woman named Margaret Vincent. And in 1616, she strangled two of her Children. She had 31 was away at the wet nurse and so was spared and she did so because she believed that she was saving them, she was saving them. She was taking them out of a sinful world. And her reason for this was that she wanted to convert to Roman Catholicism. And she thought if they didn't do that, then they were going to be damned. And her husband was not on board with that because basically being a Catholic was illegal was essentially illegal in early 17th century England. So she did this bad thing for what she believed were good reasons and this just rang a bell in my head because back in 2001, this woman named Andrea Yates in Texas who was an evangelical Christian. She strangled all five, she strangled and drowned all five of her Children. And like Margaret Vincent laid them out neatly on a bed and said afterwards that she had done so in order to save them. And so the, you know, this really kind of struck me and I wondered how many other cases where they're out there like this because we always hear about mothers who kill their Children as being, you know, evil monsters or, they want to get rid of the kids because they want to start a new relationship or, there's all these kinds of lurid stories that have been in the news just in the past 30 years or so. I think someone like Casey, Anthony. Right. But what about good mothers? Right. What about good mothers who do this terrible thing for what they believe at the time are good reasons. And then of course, we've just had this Lindsay Lacy case here in Massachusetts, which is unbelievably tragic and it is kind of still evolving in, in Andrea Yates case. Postpartum psychosis was at play in Lindsay Clancy's case. It certainly sounds as if postpartum psychosis was at play. We can't know what was going on with Margaret Vincent in 16 16, but she did have a new baby at the time. So, you know, I can't prove it. But I have, but I have my theories. So anyway, that particular story, stumbling upon that particular story was the kind of impetus for my doctoral work. And for most of the things that I've published since, and I'm actually about to teach a class focused on these, these kinds of stories and that leads us here today, which is why I'm talking with you. We had found that piece, the what's behind our enduring fascination with wives and mothers who kill because of all the things you said. It's just the, the women as the monsters and it's such a, there's so few and far between that. Yeah, it, people latch on to it and are fascinated by it. So we'll just kind of jump into, the piece that you've written today. Thank you for that all that back story leading us up to Margaret Vinson, Andrea Yates. And we'll get more into the modern day examples and parallels that you drew even with that Utah mother, which is how you started your article. But I kind of just want to jump into and maybe this is just me fan girling. But the the tolstoy quote that you popped in there, each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way was a really good way to kick off. Why this could be a source of interest for a lot of people looking at, you know, other people and being like, oh, that's another family's problem and that, that can't happen here and we'll get into all of that. The first thing I wanna jump into is you mentioned how true crime is. Nothing new. It's always been a tale as old as time that people are fascinated with it and devour it in different ways. Nowadays, we've got the podcasts and the documentaries and novels and this and that. But from your background and the you know, 15, 50 16 50 that, that time range, it was not, obviously those things you mentioned, ballads, domestic tragedies and these penny pamphlets. Can you, like, explain what those are like? Like, what the hell are those? Yeah, it's really interesting. So, you know, there's no, news reporting in this period, right? Like what we would think of as, you know, news reporting. But news does get disseminated obviously. So, you know, if there's a big scandal, there is going to be ways for people to find out about it. So we're, it's very interesting because we're also kind of in the early days of print, right? The printing press arise in England in 14 75 William Caxton is the first guy to use the printing press in London in 14 75. And he starts printing, aside from obviously religious things, you know, we're gonna are gonna get kind of priority. He printed the Canterbury Tales and he, he printed Thomas Mallory's more Arthur. It sort of like gives us some sense of what people were interested in reading, right? So think about like, what were the first websites, right? Because you can really make the printing press analogous to the internet. Like, so what were the first things that started appearing on the internet? It tells us something about what people were interested back in those like embryonic. It, you know, information superhighway days. So by the middle of the 15 hundreds. You're getting more kind of political tracks being printed And starting to see chronicles. So basically, these are what pass for. They're not really news, they're kind of somewhere between like the encyclopedia Bria or something. There's several chronicles that are very famous and their names aren't, aren't really important for our conversation. But Rafael Hole and, and John Stow several others and they print these sort of big chronicles that are gonna give you the history of England, everything important that ever happened. And, and mostly they just talk about kings and queens and battles and the usual things you would expect. But this murder that happened in 15 51 which I write about in the article Thomas Arden, he was murdered on Valentine's Day 15 51 by his wife Alice and she conspired with her lover, a guy named Mosby, and some of some of their servants and a couple of hired killers. The whole thing is actually kind of slapstick when I teach this. When I teach the, the text that's based on the play Arden and my students are always like, I've had these murders compared to the wet Bandits in home alone, they're kind of incompetent. That was good. But but I can't get it out of my head. But anyway, so this is, these are just middle class bourgeois people living in a London suburb. And there's nothing important or famous or particularly interesting about them except the woman conspires to murder her husband. And this winds up in one of these chronicles, it winds up in Holland. It's chronicle amidst like, you know, Julius Caesar invading Britain and things like that. And the reason he included this seemingly ordinary and unimportant episode he says is because of the horribleness thereof because the idea of a wife killing her husband is so horrible, right? It goes against nature. It goes against the sort of political theology of the time it threatens order in the household. And in this period, there's this kind of analog framing of the household as like a miniature state, a little commonwealth. There's a long tract about it by Robert John Dodd and Robert Clever that comes out in the 15 hundreds. And essentially, it's kind of just saying that the household is just like a miniature kingdom and of course, who's at the top of the kingdom, right? The husband and the father, right? Everybody is subordinate just like the king is the head of the nation and God is the head of the universe. And this is the analogy. So if a wife kills her husband, it's it's a political crime, it's treason, it's like killing the king, right? So, whereas if a husband kills his wife, he's guilty of murder. And depending on his social class, he'll, he'll be hanged or maybe beheaded. If a wife kills her husband, she's gonna be burned because that's the penalty for treason. So this case gets way more attention than you would think it should merit and winds up in this chronicle and inspires a play called Arden of Fabric, which comes circa 15 90. We don't know the writer is unknown. And it also inspired at least one battle ballad that we know of that came out way later like 16 30 or something. Which Ventri likewise is Alan Alice Arden, just before she dies before she gets burned at the stake. And basically, she goes on for, I think 90 19 verses about how terrible she is and how sorry she is and how, what she did was really, really wrong and you should never tell. So there's all this kind of like rhetorical work that these kinds of cases serve beyond just saying, OK, this is a crime, this is what happened. These are the details. It's like, so what right. Going back to what you were saying about Tolstoy, right? It's like, how can this be used weaponized to kind of reinforce the status quo? And what's the word I want? Sissuade discourage people, other people from doing this kind of thing, right? Show them what the consequences are. Mhm Yeah. It's the, the true life scary story to keep people in line. Yes. Yeah. Yes, for sure. Ca a cautionary tale the cautionary tale. Yes. Yeah, we need to take a quick break. So don't go too far. Ok. So we're gonna toggle a little bit between current day and going back and it's going off of the things that you just mentioned. So this is probably pretty straightforward and most people especially like true crime junkies should know this. But statistically crimes committed, you know, whether it be a murder, a rape, a burglary kidnapping. it's typically by somebody, you know, and it's typically a man who does it and I mean, I devour these True Crime podcasts and you always hear whatever the case, it's like the husband always does it or the boyfriend and, and it's true and, and, and that's sad. But then it's like, ok, move on because it's time a dozen. So when you've done your right, it's just a Tuesday. Right. You know? Right. Right. Right. It's a 20, that's sad. And then it's like, so like when you've done your research in, in, on all your historical, you know, literature and all, whatever have you, my guess would be that you haven't seen men as portrayed in these cautionary tales as much as, you know, Margaret Vincent or Alice Arden that you mentioned. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think, and it, I didn't really answer your question about the pamphlets and this ties into that. So, these pamphlets are basically cheap. I make them kind of analogous to, tabloid newspapers, you know, the things that you see at the supermarket checkout or, or online now, you know, with the kind of like the, the, the red thing in the UK, they call them red tops because they always have like a red headline. And, you know, it's like, oh, you know, demon mother murders, helpless angel Children, you know, that, that kind of stuff. And they, they're grabby and they're cheap and they're really disposable, right? You read that and then you line the cat box with it or something. And that's, these pamphlets were cheap like that. They were mass produced. you could buy it. They lured, they always featured these, like, really kind of, lurid woodcuts, showing, you know, somebody hacking someone's head off or strangling a baby or whatever. And the funny thing is that they're really kind of like early modern clip art. They reuse the images over and over again and just changed the headline, which I think is really funny. They're sort of like memes. Yeah. I'm no kidding. Yeah, they are. They're like memes. So anybody would look at this image even though it's been used like six different times for 66 different context. It's like, oh, well, that's like, oh, that's like, you know, somebody strangling their wife or something, you know, and it's just like, you know what this is gonna be about. So, yeah, I think, I wrote a lot about this. The way men, male perpetrators and female perpetrators are portrayed in these kinds of texts. So, yeah, the pamphlets for sure, because they've got this kind of, again, the rhetoric is so similar to what you see in these tabloids that it's funny, it's really kind of like overwrought really over the top, kind of hysterical. Do you remember Nancy Grace? She used to be on TV. She used to always follow, she'd be like, if somebody murders their kid, she's the one on TV. Like that kind of tone that like screaming outraged, but kind of like titillated. It's like, yeah. Oh, I'm, I'm like pointing the finger. These people are monsters, but I love it, you know, the tone is very, very, very similar. So when a man does this kind of stuff, he's definitely what he's done is wrong. So a man like kills his family or something, the portrayal of him is definitely, you know, the disapproving. But what he has done the, the sort of social crime he has committed is, is called petty tyranny because a man is supposed to be in charge, right? He's supposed to have all the power. But if he, it's, and it's ok for him to chastise his subordinates, right? Like it's his job to chastise his subordinates, you know, he should beat his Children. If they misbehave, he should chastise his wife if she's, if she's insubordinate, right? But he shouldn't kill them, right. He shouldn't beat them to the point of, you know, maiming them or seriously harming them and he certainly shouldn't kill them. So, when a man does these kinds of things, he has abused his power and that is very much disapproved of. But there's also kind of a whiff of, there's often kind of a whiff of, well, what made him do it, what drove him to it? Right. Does this sound at all familiar? You know, and I, I, ok, so it's, it's just funny that you brought this up because one of my notes that I I had mentioned is like going beyond like a guy who kills his wife. You know, Scott Peterson comes to mind with Lacey Peterson and then Chris Watts, the family annihilator, right? With his pregnant wife, right? And you see every time these, these stories hit the news, like, you know, I often, I often just sort of have news on when I'm cooking in my kitchen and these things come on and I'm just like, I've got like a wooden spoon in my hand and I'm like, he did it like I know he did it like, you know, he totally, he definitely did it. And I'm always right. Yeah. And it's just, it is. So, so those two names and everything that you just had mentioned, I had this inner dialogue yesterday when I was thinking about it because it goes back to the top, like, why are, why are you and I talking today the why do we care so much when it's a wife and, or mother as opposed to the, you know, we can be like, oh, you know, Chris Watson Scott Peterson, like those guys are terrible, nail rotten hell. But again, it goes back to when it's a woman, it's that monster. It's a evil. And then I kind of had this own thought dialogue. I'm a mother myself and I'm, I'm actually pregnant. So I'm gonna have a baby in four weeks. Thank you. So I'm kind of like, you know, going through all of these things and, you know, very much in the, you know, what makes me different from these other women who have done this historically or in more recent history. But the thing that comes to mind is there is just something so grabbing about when women do this because you carry the child for so long and you birth the child and it's so much more intimate than the father who's removed and can kind of clean his hands in the sense of when there is a murder, you can go, you know, and that's because he's not involved. So in the, in the natural process of pregnancy and birth. So, yeah, when there are these women historically or modern day that do this, it's like how, you know, you just sit there and go, how you know, how could this happen? And that's where we'll wrap up this week. Come back next week where Dianne and I discuss how society has evolved or remain the same as far as discussing women's wellness, postpartum ghost and how all of that contributes to violence committed by women.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In this episode, I talk about Joe Biden's poor ratings. I also discuss the possibility that Patrick Clancy might be forced to testify against Lindsay. Sources: https://www.westernjournal.com/biden-gets-brutal-wake-call-americans-give-lowest-approval-rating-yet-poll/ https://www.insideedition.com/can-lindsay-clancy-husband-testify-murder-trial https://www.boston.com/news/crime/2023/05/11/lindsay-clancy-will-remain-tewksbury-hospital-six-months/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/1morethingwsologreen/support
This week we had some updates on Lindsay Clancy, The Titan and also a listener email. Then we covered the black eyed children. This is one of those urban legends that makes you question anytime you see a child alone. Be sure to follow us on instagram @ deeply unsettling. We post pictures every week of the cases we are talking about. Also be sure to rate and review our podcast, it helps us out!Wanna send us an email? send it to: deeplyunsettling@gmail.com !
Earlier this year, a woman named Lindsay Clancy was charged with the murder of her three children — who were 5 years, 3 years, and 7 months old. Though Clancy never formally received a PMAD diagnosis, her story has ignited conversations about postpartum care in the United States. Apple News In Conversation host Shumita Basu spoke with New Yorker editor Jessica Winter about the mental-health challenges many new birthing parents face — and the lack of support provided to them. This is a preview of that converstion.
This episode includes descriptions of violence and mentions suicide. If you or someone you know is struggling or in crisis, please contact the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.Earlier this year, a woman named Lindsay Clancy was charged with the murder of her three children — who were 5 years, 3 years, and 7 months old. Though Clancy never formally received a PMAD diagnosis, her story has ignited conversations about postpartum care in the United States. Apple News In Conversation host Shumita Basu spoke with New Yorker editor Jessica Winter about the mental-health challenges many new birthing parents face — and the lack of support provided to them.
An exploration of the case making headlines around the internet - the nurse and mother who killed her children.
We are back with the March Q&A, and it is packed with your awesome questions! How do I go about choosing a midwife? Are there red flags?I had pre-eclampsia and HELLP syndrome. Can I still have a home birth?Is it safe to take Valtrex in pregnancy for cold sores or is there an alternative?Is it necessary to rub and dry the baby after birth or can baby just be handed to me?Can we talk about the Lindsay Clancy situation and how do we know if we are suffering postpartum psychosis?Does Covid cause decreased blood flow and does Aspirin help?And for those who subscribe on Apple podcasts or Patreon, in the extended version we answer:How do you know when IUGR is a legitimate diagnosis?Is there a way to pump enough to delay the return of your period when breastfeeding?Can you prevent the loss or decrease in milk supply when pregnant but still nursing?When should you introduce a bottle or transition a breastfeeding baby to the bottle and how do you do both?Do you have resources that you recommend for continuing education for parents?In a home-to-hospital transfer for the mother, does the baby go too and if so, does the baby get evaluated? Can the baby stay home?And in our quickies segment we touch on:Surrogates and co-sleeping, young midwives, periods and breastfeeding, induction for gestational diabetes, favorite items for new moms, keepsakes, hiccups in pregnancy, retinol in breastfeeding, Vitamin K alternatives and our shoe collection. Thank you as always for calling in your awesome questions! Don't forget to join us on Patreon for the extended version and twice monthly live Q&As on all kinds of topics!Thanks for joining us, and remember you can call our phone line with your questions 24/7 at 802-GET-DOWN. (That's 802-438-3696)**********DrinkLMNTLove Majka Products Silverette Nursing Cups Postpartum Soothe Connect with us on Patreon for our exclusive content.Email Contact@DownToBirthShow.comInstagram @downtobirthshowCall us at 802-GET-DOWN Work with Cynthia: 203-952-7299 HypnoBirthingCT.com Work with Trisha: 734-649-6294 Please remember we don't provide medical advice. Speak to your licensed medical provider for all your healthcare matters.
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With the recent case of Lindsay Clancy, I thought it might be good for us to have a discussion about postpartum psychosis. This episode was also voted for by my beloved Patrons. Join so you can vote too and have early access to the podcasts as well. Elissa Kerrill Serial Killing : A Podcast P.O. Box 760 Bolivar, MO 65613 **Want to Support?** Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/serial_killing Instagram: https://instagram.com/serial_killing/ Anchor: https://anchor.fm/serial-killing Merch: https://teespring.com/stores/serial-killing --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/serial-killing/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/serial-killing/support
Warning, this episode contains talk of attempted suicide and harm to children. The Lindsay Clancy story may not have made national news, but you've probably seen it if you live in the eastern U.S. Lindsay was a mother of three, who allegedly killed her three young children while suffering from postpartum psychosis. This is an absolutely unimaginable and tragic case, and one that opens up a bigger conversation about women's mental health. As well as a personal one for me, as I struggled greatly with postpartum anxiety and some psychosis after the birth of my son in 2007. Lindsay was being treated for her mental illness, and allegedly was on several medications. A recent article quotes an OB/GYN nurse and perinatal mental health advocate by the name of Melissa Anne DuBois, where she explains, “The rhetoric coming from the prosecution and other people in authority hazardously distort the medical complexity of this disorder. When they paint Lindsay as a monster who carried out an elaborate, premeditated murder, instead of as someone suffering from a serious mental illness that wasn't properly treated and who subsequently had a psychotic break, it sends a message to all the struggling parents out there [that] nothing can help me.” This episode shares Linday's tragic story, my own personal journey here, touches on how privilege is operating here, as well as what we can do. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Warning, this episode contains talk of attempted suicide and harm to children. The Lindsay Clancy story may not have made national news, but you've probably seen it if you live in the eastern U.S. Lindsay was a mother of three, who allegedly killed her three young children while suffering from postpartum psychosis. This is an absolutely unimaginable and tragic case, and one that opens up a bigger conversation about women's mental health. As well as a personal one for me, as I struggled greatly with postpartum anxiety and some psychosis after the birth of my son in 2007. Lindsay was being treated for her mental illness, and allegedly was on several medications. A recent article quotes an OB/GYN nurse and perinatal mental health advocate by the name of Melissa Anne DuBois, where she explains, “The rhetoric coming from the prosecution and other people in authority hazardously distort the medical complexity of this disorder. When they paint Lindsay as a monster who carried out an elaborate, premeditated murder, instead of as someone suffering from a serious mental illness that wasn't properly treated and who subsequently had a psychotic break, it sends a message to all the struggling parents out there [that] nothing can help me.” This episode shares Linday's tragic story, my own personal journey here, touches on how privilege is operating here, as well as what we can do. http://andreaowen.com/511
TW- child murder. On January 24, 2023, Lindsay Clancy asked her husband Patrick to go and pick up takeout for dinner. She told him she also needed medication for one of their three young children. Patrick left their home in Duxbury, Massachusetts at around 5.15 to run the errands. When he returned under one hour later, he found that the home was deathly still. There were no sounds of laughter and playing from his children, Cora (5), Dawson (3) and Callan (8 months). He found Lindsay laying on the ground outside their home. She was unable to move and had cuts to her neck and wrists. She told him that the children were in the basement. Patrick ran to the basement, and what he found there was one of the worst scenes that first responders had ever seen. Lindsay had strangled all three children with exercise bands. Cora and Dawson passed away that night, Callan passed away after fighting for his life for days. In this episode of the True Crime Society Podcast we discuss the deaths of the Clancy children, at their hands of the mother Lindsay. If you'd like to skip straight to the crime content, please goto (7:19) Read our blog for this case - https://truecrimesocietyblog.com/2023/02/27/lindsay-clancy-strangled-her-three-children-with-exercise-bands/
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In episode 40 (the second part I promised from the unreleased episode), I share the very emotional, complex, and disturbing case of the Clancy family of Duxbury, Massachusetts. This one definitely got to me. I do talk about self harm, mental illness, domestic violent and suicide and list resources below. In January, 32-year-old nurse and mother, Lindsay Clancy, is believed to have killed her three young children - Cora, 5, Dawson, 3, and Callan, 8 months - while being treated for a postpartum condition. It is a complicated case with many differing opinions. I share the facts of Lindsay Clancy's case to date and details of two other high profile US cases of mothers who murdered their children, facts of their cases, what the science says, and where they are now. Postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis are not the same and should not be considered as such.New England crime headlines: The suspicious death of Barbara Hovey Novaes of Medford, Mass and the family member murder-suicide of Linda and Sebastian Robinson of Andover, Mass.Crime of the Truest Kindhosted by Anngelle Woodcrimeofthetruestkind.comPatrick Clancy Gofundme and statement about his familyhttps://www.gofundme.com/f/patrick-clancy-donationsThanks Bob Ward of Boston 25 Newshttps://www.facebook.com/bward3/Show notes at crimeofthetruestkind.com/post/episode40ResourcesMass.gov /domestic-violence-servicesSearch by zip code, city or town. IF IT IS AN EMERGENCY CALL 911.Safelink is Massachusetts' statewide 24/7 toll-free domestic violence hotline 877-785-2020For the hearing impaired, dial 711 - MASS RELAY SERVICE. Advocates speak English, Spanish, and have ability to translate in 130 languages. THE NATIONAL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HOTLINE OFFERS ASSISTANCE AND SAFETY PLANNING 24/7.1-800-799-SAFE (7233)TTY 1-800-787-3224 If you are unable to speak on the phone, you can access the online chat feature at THEHOTLINE.ORGPostpartum Support Internationalpostpartum.netGet help 1-800-944-4773Text 'Help' to 800-944-4773 (English)Text en Espanol 971-203-7773988 Suicide & Crisis LifelineCall 988Not Carol - documentary about Carol Coronadoartemisrising.org/home/not-carolSupport the showCrimeoftheTruestKind.com for show notes
SP Episode: We talk about the recent story of Lindsay Clancy and that mental health is very important. Please check out the resources below if you or someone you love is not doing well. Our Trophy Dad this week is Jeffrey Yarbrough, a new police chief that is also a great person. Google search for Postpartum Depression resourceshttps://www.postpartum.net/CDC Site for Postpartum DepressionThanks for listening to us, Cunties! Check out our exclusive content on our Patreon and our merch on our website store, and you can find all our links on our website.Follow/like/subscribe to us here:InstagramTikTokTwitter
Lindsay Clancy's husband's came home expecting to hear his wife and 3 kids running around the house - but instead it was silent. When he found his wife on the ground beneath their bedroom window, the nightmare had only just begun to unfold. For photos pertaining to this case, check out the Lindsay's highlight at the top of my profile at Instagram.com/TheHeatherAshley. Join me live on TikTok at TheHeatherAshley, Monday night at 830PM EST. Sponsors: Hellofresh.com/bigmad65 - Promo code "Bigmad65" for 65% off and free shipping. Modernfertility.com/bigmad - For $20 off your test. Download Smartnews today in the App Store to get news that matters. A news app made smarter. Discover the all-in-one platform that delivers all the information you need. Bartesian - For a limited time, you'll get FREE cocktails and FREE shipping with your new Bartesian. Text MAD to 64000 for FREE cocktails and FREE shipping. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details.
Lindsay Clancy, a 32-year-old labor and delivery nurse killed her three children and attempted to kill herself on Tuesday, January 24, 2023. How can this happen??Tickets for PAD's 5-year PODiversary Party: Click HereJoin our Patreon and enjoy early and ad-free episodes, bonus content, discounts on our merchandise and more! www.patreon.com/palmahawkmediaVisit our website paradiseafterdark.com for links to our store, Patreon, tip jar and more! Facebook.com/palmahawkmediaInstagram @palmahawkmedia Twitter @paradisedark239TikTok @palmahawkmedia If you see something say something!!Music by Captain Fathands @ captainfathands.com
Hi, friends! In this episode, I do a deep dive into postpartum mental illness including baby blues, postpartum depression, and postpartum psychosis. This was requested by a number of listeners due to the Lindsay Clancy case, which I discuss briefly in the episode. Please be aware that I do discuss topics such as infanticide, suicide, and the specific case of Lindsay Clancy. However, I do not go into details of what happened and there are no explicit descriptions. As always, you can send me questions for future episodes to duffthepsych@gmail.com and find the show notes for this episode at http://duffthepsych.com/episode338
NBC Political Director Chuck Todd on the latest political headlines, including the State of the Union address from President Joe Biden. Andrea Cabral contrasts media coverage of Lindsay Clancy with a similar case involving a Black woman, Latarsha Sanders. Cabral is former Suffolk County Sheriff and former secretary of Public safety. Cambridge Mayor Sumbul Siddiqui joins to answer questions related to the Cambridge police killing of Sayed Faisal. Arthur C. Brooks writes about happiness for the Atlantic. He joined to talk about a few of his latest columns.
Nurses Out Loud with April Snipes RNFA, BSN, CNOR – Lindsay's defense attorney Reddington “alleged that she was ‘thoroughly destroyed' by several medications - including Valium, Prozac, Klonopin, and Zoloft- which he claimed masked her symptoms rather than treated them.” Her symptoms were misdiagnosed and inadequately treated by multiple practitioners which led to the death of her three children, and her permanent disability...
It is True Crime Tuesday - Happy Valentine's Day!We are discussing murder & an update on the backlash I have received since covering the Lindsay Clancy case. We are podcasting everyday this month!February Schedule:Sunday ScariesManic MondayTrue Crime TuesdayWellness WednesdayThirsty ThursdayFreaky FridayStory Time SaturdayFollow me! @manicandmedicated_
In this episode we have Marielis sharing her experience with postpartum psychosis. I usually don't do two birth stories in a row but in light of the Lindsay Clancy case I thought it was important to release this one today. If you haven't heard about it yet, Lindsay Clancy strangled her three children and is now a paraplegic as a result of a suicide attempt. It is suspected that this was due to postpartum psychosis. Postpartum psychosis is relatively rare, occurring in only 1 to 2 births out of 1,000. And homicidal behavior is uncommon among those with the diagnosis. Psychosis is a disturbance in an individual's perception of reality which can manifest in the form of delusions and hallucinations among other symptoms. This is what Marielis experienced after giving birth. Once she realized something was wrong, she did everything right: listened to her intuition, communicated that she felt off, sought help early, and followed through on her medication and therapy plan. Today she is doing well and wants to spread awareness in hopes of preventing future tragedies. In this Episode, You'll Learn About: -What psychosis felt like for Marielis -What the early signs were that something was wrong -How her condition made her feel about her baby -Why being a woman of color made her hesitant to seek care -How her family supported her during her mental health crisis -How Marielis's psychosis was treated -What risk factors increase the likelihood of postpartum psychosis -When postpartum psychosis presents after birth -- Full website notes: drnicolerankins.com/episode196 Check out The Birth Preparation Course Register for the class How to Create a Birth Plan the Right Way
In this episode of True Crime Daily The Sidebar Podcast: Charles Lew joins host Joshua Ritter to break down the biggest cases making headlines across the nation. They discuss an unexpected recess in Alex Murdaugh's ongoing murder trial, a father charged with attempted murder after driving his family off a cliff, and Lindsay Clancy's arraignment from a hospital bed after she was charged with strangling her three children. Tweet your questions for future episodes to Joshua Ritter using the hashtag #TCDSidebar.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
So much news today!! - MWW- Nicola Bulley disappeared without a Trace and are the police investigating it thoroughly? -Lindsay Clancy, killed her kids with a resistance band then slit her wrists and jumped from her bedroom window. The kids died but she lived and is now a parapalegic. Postpartum Psychosis or Nah? -Nonverbal Teenager with Autism found in an alley in Midland but no one has come forward to claim him yet. Could this be linked to a nonverbal boy with Autism that went missing in Floriday 14 years ago? Lets compare photos. -Lastly did R.Kelly and Aaliyah have a Love child that we are just near discovering? All the news!! SUPPORT US & BUY A HAPPY HOUR ROUND: VENMO // @BloodyHappyHour CASHAPP // $BloodyHappyHour LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS // Bloody Happy Hour on Apple Podcasts LISTEN ON SPOTIFY // Bloody Happy Hour | Podcast on Spotify FOLLOW US: INSTAGRAM // https://www.instagram.com/bloodyhappyhour/ FACEBOOK // https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100067023384473 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Today is Sunday Scaries - we're discussing Super Bowl Sunday, Rihanna, Miley Cyrus, Donald Trump, Pronouns & why I can't stand Demi Lovato. We are podcasting everyday this month!February Schedule:Sunday ScariesManic MondayTrue Crime TuesdayWellness WednesdayThirsty ThursdayFreaky FridayStory Time SaturdayFollow me! @manicandmedicated_Demi Lovato & Call Her Daddy Reaction Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WsmDgYCOSM&t=200sPrevious Episodes LC case: ‘Lindsay Clancy, Postpartum Depression & Psychosis | True Crime Tuesday' Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6wU3SpiZxeaMwcmrKWWHVB?si=d02f315dcc9942bb Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/manic-medicated/id1595383197?i=1000597218897 ‘Lindsay Clancy Update | Homicidal & Suicidal Ideation & How Medical Intervention Failed Her' Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3Yww2XAD93edisTpjyusZl?si=e1648333bc4c4b54 Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/manic-medicated/id1595383197?i=1000597953679'Arraignment Of Lindsay Clancy | True Crime Tuesday'Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4aoEmtwfr7CBgChzSeV9ibApple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/manic-medicated/id1595383197?i=1000598773368
In today's episode of Psych Talk I discuss postpartum psychosis. The Lindsay Clancy case has been covering news outlets for weeks and has started a conversation about postpartum psychosis. Regardless of if she actually was experiencing postpartum psychosis or not, the reality is postpartum psychosis is a very real and rare mental health disorder. In this episode I briefly touch on postpartum depression and anxiety, as well as psychosis in general. I then discuss postpartum psychosis symptoms, risk factors, and outcomes. Further, I discuss treatment for postpartum psychosis, the lack of guidelines we have for treating postpartum psychosis, and the general lack of support for individuals in the postpartum period. Resources:www.postpartum.netInterventions for the Prevention and Treatment of Postpartum PsychosisA Review of Postpartum PsychosisBooks:Good Moms Have Scary Thoughts by Karen KleimanNot Your Mother's Postpartum Book by Caitlin Slavens & Chelsea BodieThe Fourth Trimester by Kimberly Ann JonsonThis Isn't What I expected by Karen Kleiman & Valerie Davis RaskinWays to Work With Me:Mind Over MatterLGBTQ+ Affirming MasterclassBe a guest on my podcastResources:Anti-Racism ResourcesLGBTQ+ Affirming ResourcesThe Helping Professional's Guide to Boundary SettingConnect with Me:Follow me on IG @jessicaleighphdFollow the podcast on IG @psych.talk.podcastFollow me on TikTok @jessicaleighphdFollow me on Youtube Welcome to Group Therapy PodcastJoin my Facebook community: Grow Through What You Go ThroughSupport the show
Today's episode is a little different from our normal headlines because I just can't stop thinking about Lindsay Clancy and her kids and her husband.. this story is pointing out a major flaw in our healthcare system, in my opinion. I'm heartbroken for all of them.
We review the insanity defense, with a focus on postpartum psychosis and the tragic case out of Massachusetts involving Lindsay Clancy.
Episode Notes The ladies are getting into all the things for today's new episode! There's a new brow trend. Oh yes, get your razors ready! The new Pamela Anderson documentary hit Netflix and is a must watch. The Grammys happened and so did some other juicy moments. Sam and Michelle also do a crime catch up on what has been happening with some current cases including Lindsay Clancy, Brian Walshe and Gabby Petito. Send us your feedback online: https://pinecast.com/feedback/let-s-not/72872ac4-7411-4cf3-9836-f87923a86991 This podcast is powered by Pinecast.
Today on Boston Public Radio: We started the show by opening the lines to hear our listeners' reaction to President Joe Biden's State of the Union Address. Then Art Caplan discussed the shortage of primary care physicians in Massachusetts. He also talked about Connecticut Governor Ned Lamont's plan to try to wipe the medical debt of state residents and a proposal in Florida that would require high school athletes to submit menstrual records to schools to prove their sex. Art Caplan is the Drs. William F and Virginia Connolly Mitty Professor and founding head of the Division of Medical Ethics at NYU School of Medicine in New York City. Then National Security Expert Juliette Kayyem came on to discuss the criminal charges filed against Lindsay Clancy, a Duxbury woman accused of strangling her three children to death. Her lawyer argues she is not guilty because of temporary insanity caused by post-partum psychosis. She also commented on President Biden's State of the Union Address and how Biden handled the Chinese spy balloon that hovered over the U.S. last week. Juliette Kayyem is the former assistant secretary for homeland security under President Barack Obama, and the faculty chair of the homeland-security program at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government. GBH News Executive Arts Editor Jared Bowen discussed “Made in China 2.0” through ArtsEmerson, the El Pasado Mío/Cooper Gallery at Harvard's Hutchins Center, Re/Framing the View at New Bedford Whaling Museum, and the documentary “All the Beauty and the Bloodshed.” Michael Curry of the Mass League of Community Health Centers discussed the police reform elements of President Biden's State of the Union speech. He also talked about Boston Mayor Michelle Wu's reparations task force and the resistance the body faces from the public. Then we ended the show by asking our listeners what their favorite unhealthy food is after we read that former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi eats a hotdog every day for lunch.
This is the breakdown of what we know now based on Lindsay Clancy's Arraignment. She will appear in court again on May 5th - this will be my last episode on the case until we get more updates before her pending court case.Previous episodes I covered on this case:‘Lindsay Clancy, Postpartum Depression & Psychosis | True Crime TuesdaySpotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6wU3SpiZxeaMwcmrKWWHVB?si=d02f315dcc9942bbApple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/manic-medicated/id1595383197?i=1000597218897‘Lindsay Clancy Update | Homicidal & Suicidal Ideation & How Medical Intervention Failed HerSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3Yww2XAD93edisTpjyusZl?si=e1648333bc4c4b54Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/manic-medicated/id1595383197?i=1000597953679Court Video of Arraignment: https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2023/02/07/lindsay-clancy-duxbury-mom-arraignment-accused-killing-three-children/Nonprofit ‘The Blue Dot Project': https://www.thebluedotproject.orgRustic Marlin: https://rusticmarlin.com/blogs/influencer-round-up/the-blue-dot-projectPatrick Clancy's Statement/GoFundMe: https://www.gofundme.com/f/patrick-clancy-donationsIf you or someone you know is struggling with suicidal thoughts please call the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline at 988 or 800-273-8255 to connect with a trained counselor, or visit 988lifeline.org.Follow me: @manicandmedicated_
Howie shares audio from the very uncomfortable arraignment of Lindsay Clancy from her hospital bed today. Over Zoom, the now-paraplegic mother from Duxbury, Massachusetts, was prosecuted for the murder of her three children. Was it pre-meditated murder, as the Commonwealth claims, or was Clancy overmedicated and out of her mind?
TRIGGER WARNING: This episode includes discussion of homicide against children. Crawlspace's Chloe Canter along with her identical twin sister, Melina, host the True Crime Twins podcast, using their academic and occupational backgrounds in criminology and medicine to tell crime stories. In this episode, Chloe and Melina discuss the Duxbury, Massachusetts mother and labor and delivery RN, Lindsay Clancy, who has been arraigned in the January 2023 murders of her young children, Cora, Dawson, and Callan. TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@truecrimetwins Twitter: https://twitter.com/TrueCrimeTwins Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/truecrimetwinspodcast/ Email Chloe & Melina here: truecrimetwinspodcast@gmail.com Check out Chloe's blog: https://truecrimetwinspodcast.blogspot.com/ Check out other great shows from Crawlspace Media at http://crawlspace-media.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
***TW/CW*** suicide, murder and harm to children will be discussed.We are diving back into the Lindsay Clancy case - she has been accused of strangling and killing her children. If you aren't familiar with this case please listen to it here: (https://open.spotify.com/episode/6wU3SpiZxeaMwcmrKWWHVB) and then come back to this episode. ***Lindsay was prescribed 13 different psychiatric medications:zolpidem (sold under the brand name Ambien); clonazepam (sold under the brand name Klonopin); diazepam (sold under the brand name Valium); fluoxetine (sold under the brand name Prozac); lamotrigine (sold under the brand name Lamictil); lorazepam (sold under the brand name Ativan); mirtazapine (sold under the brand name Remeron); quetiapine fumarate (sold under the brand name Seroquel); sertaline (sold under the brand name Zoloft); trazodone, hydroxyzine, amitriptyline, and buspirone.Nonprofit ‘The Blue Dot Project': https://www.thebluedotproject.orgRustic Marlin: https://rusticmarlin.com/blogs/influencer-round-up/the-blue-dot-projectPatrick Clancy's Statement/GoFundMe: https://www.gofundme.com/f/patrick-clancy-donationsFollow me: @manicandmedicated_If you or someone you know is struggling with suicidal thoughts please call the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline at 988 or 800-273-8255 to connect with a trained counselor, or visit 988lifeline.org.
This Week on True Crime Daily The Podcast: A mother stands accused of strangling her three children before attempting to take her own life. Plus, a family survives a dramatic cliffside crash, but police say the accident was attempted murder. Tracy Tamborra joins host Ana Garcia.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Lindsay and her husband Patrick seemingly had it all, high powered jobs, a home in a very affluent Boston suburb and most importantly three beautiful babies. She was engaged in what appeared to be intensive treatment for postpartum depression. On Tuesday January 24, 2023, Patrick went out briefly to pick up a take out dinner from a local shop. He returned a short time later to find his wife had allegedly killed his daughter Cora 5, his son Dawson 3 and Callen 7months, she then jumped from a second story window in, what some say was a suicide attempt. Lindsay, will likely be arraigned for three counts of homicide in the coming days. There seems to be a groundswell of support for her, is it deserved?Daily Mail-https://bit.ly/3JmogK9Boston Globe-https://bit.ly/3WOLNX1
***TW/CW: This episode has talks of murder, suicide, crime against children and some disturbing topics - listen at your own risk.***Police responded to a 911 call Tuesday night on Jan 24th 2023 to a Duxbury, Massachusetts home, where they discovered 3 children unconscious - Cora, 5, and Dawson, 3, were rushed to the hospital while their 8-month-old sibling, Callan was med flighted to Boston, Mass. He was under the care of ICU - Cora and Dawson were pronounced dead on arrival at the hospital. Callan fought for his life until Jan 27th 2023 where he later died from his injuries. It was founded that their mother, Lindsay Clancy had strangled them to death in a murder-suicide attempt. She is currently seeking treatment at a hospital and under the supervision of police. But how does this happen? WHY does this happen??We will be discussing some heavy topics, mental illness and past cases that are very similar to Lindsay's crimes. Please listen with an open mind and know that you are allowed to have your own opinion on this case - we all are. But I want you to really put in that energy you have for cases like this and read up on WHY they happen. I will be walking you through this case trying to fill in the blanks. There is still more to uncover in this story and more information will come out as it is readily available. Please keep the Clancy family and friends in your prayers, especially Patrick - he has lost not only his children but his wife as well. You can donate and view Patrick Clancy's statement below.Patrick's GoFundMe: https://www.gofundme.com/f/patrick-clancy-donations If you or someone you know is struggling with suicidal thoughts or mental health matters, please call the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline at 988 or 800-273-8255 to connect with a trained counselor, or visit 988lifeline.org.Follow me: @manicandmedicated_
In this new segment, I'm going to be covering some of the week's top true crime headlines. But, I'll always restore your faith in humanity with a positive story at the end. This week's episode, we're covering the following stories:1. Lindsay Clancy - the MA mom accused of killing 2/3 of her children. 2. Madison Russo - the teen who faked cancer to scam people out of thousands of dollars.3. Ellen Greenberg - the DA has recently reopened her case.4. Jared Bridegan - an arrest has been made in his murder.5. Peaches Stergo - the FL woman accused of stealing nearly $3M from an 87-year-old Holocaust survivor. 6. Hody Childress - the man who secretly donated thousands of dollars to a small town pharmacy to help locals pay for their medications.Support the show
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