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The finale of season 1 of Inner Archeology is here! Emily and Sarah look back at over one year of podcasting and share their reflections on the journey, what they have learned, and what's making them excited about the future. Key Points In Episode: The first season finale of Inner Archeology is here, and it's been a fun one-year ride! Time for some reflections. Emily has enjoyed how raw and honest the whole experience has been. How many podcast hosts cry before hopping on a call to start recording an episode? Emily and Sarah do! #PodcastersLife One of the things Sarah learned during this journey has been putting more of her personal story out there and feeling good about it. For Emily, it wasn't easy to put herself out there talking about religious trauma – but the emails and Instagram DMs she got after the episode was published made it all worth it. #Reflections Emily shares that what's been so valuable about sharing stories is that we love finding ourselves in other people, and that gives us permission to just be ourselves… Do you agree? The podcast had an impact on the Your Way to Freedom annual event too, because it felt as if everyone felt comfortable going deeper. Sarah opens up about having felt like a bad friend lately, and talks about what her birth class teacher calls ‘the red thread back to self'. Seeing Ben as a dad is something Sarah is really looking forward to. Who says that being a mother means you'll be sleep deprived and feel miserable? Definitely not Sarah! She isn't afraid of all of that, not one bit. Being sleep deprived isn't easy but your mindset about being sleep deprived makes the whole situation what it is, says Emily. Do you feel the same? Season 2 of Inner Archeology is going to be great! Make sure to stay in the loop to learn more about it as soon as it launches. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube
Sarah and Emily take a deep dive into the world of judgment, belief, and change. In this episode, they talk about how your beliefs are formed, what has an impact on them, and what to consider and do to change your beliefs and achieve positive change. Key Points In Episode: This episode of Inner Archeology is the second to last episode of the season because Sarah's going on maternity leave – but don't worry, the show will be back in a few months! Plus, you can get more exclusive content on the Inner Archeology Patreon page. Sarah feels that the desire to appear consistent is a core human desire. Want to be open to changing your beliefs? Then, you need to have conscious awareness of that, no doubt. Because yes, you CAN change your mind. Super interesting point by Emily: ‘if there's a belief about your identity, you'll automatically just reinforce that. Even if it's complete B.S., you'll double down just to preserve the sense of identity and familiarity.' Do you agree? It's so empowering to bring your beliefs and to have conscious awareness of the fact that they can change – and you have the power to decide and change them. Glennon Doyle is someone who has had the guts to change her beliefs and to do so publicly. Look at her for inspiration. Many of the beliefs Sarah has changed are paired with judgments, ideas, or expectations she had. Before the beliefs could shift, those ideas and expectations had to change first. For most of her life, Sarah didn't want to have kids… and look at her now, about to become a mother! Sarah has stopped making 5-year plans because so much can change in a year (just look at the last couple of years). If you're trying to figure out what your beliefs are, make sure to make a distinction between beliefs that were just handed to you and those you have intentionally chosen to adopt. Emily shares that she had to earn the right to participate in her creative expression because it was a luxury, not something she necessarily deserved. #ChangedBelief Sarah had judgments toward pole dancing, thinking it wasn't a hard thing to do… turns out she was wrong. Ever felt like working out is punishment? Or that you work out because you don't like your body? Emily thought the same but, by her own admission, things couldn't be further from the truth. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube Glennon Doyle The Artist's Way: A Spiritual Path to Higher Creativity by Julia Cameron
Sarah and Emily continue their conversation about Jonah Hill's documentary Stutz (if you haven't already, check out the latest episode of Inner Archeology for part 1). In this episode, they talk about some powerful therapeutic modalities and tools from Stutz: part X, the string of pearls, and your shadow. Key Points In Episode: This episode of Inner Archeology continues the conversation around Jonah Hill's documentary Stutz that Emily and Sarah began to discuss last week. They now focus on therapeutic modalities. Emily just L-O-V-E-S how visual Stutz's therapy tools are – particularly the little note cards with visual representations he draws, despite having Parkinson's, and that he gives to all of his clients. A big #truth from Emily: ‘Having visual components is an incredibly powerful tool to make an abstract concept more tangible in somebody's mind.' Do you agree? The string of pearls is another powerful tool Stutz uses. Each pearl represents the next action you take in your life, be it getting out of bed, or launching a business. This is the important part. The pearls all hold equal value and the same weight, no action is more important than the other! That's why it's important to just take action, even an imperfect one. Emily thinks that if you were to assign the same value to each action in your life, you'd be able to remove a ton of self-judgment. Agree or disagree? We tend to evaluate our days based on the “big things” we accomplished without thinking that things like getting out of bed or drinking water can be what was needed to help you move forward so that in the future you could have those big accomplishments. #QuoteOfTheDay It's about moving the storyline forward (yup, it's as simple as that!). You can't have future pearls without these ones. Sarah and Emily talk about the role that simple little actions like drinking a can of Coke play in life. Think about it for a second: if something is so meaningful and carries the same weight, then it's meaningless. Every action holds the same value as the next one. Part X is another of Stutz's therapeutic modalities. It's a very judgmental part of you that keeps you small, a voice of impossibility. But at the same time, its negativity propels you into growth. There's a quote that really stood out for Emily: ‘The highest creative expression for a human is being able to create something new right in the face of adversity.' For Sarah, nothing is more empowering than creating in the face of adversity… is that the same for you? Emily believes that you can reframe your relationship with Part X and that it doesn't have to be so abrasive to you. Part X is different from the shadow, which is the part of your life that you were ashamed of (and that made Sarah burst into tears!). For Stutz, it isn't just about acknowledging your shadow but it's about understanding and trying to love it too. Have you signed up for the Inner Archeology Patreon page, yet? There may be some meditation with Emily's shadow coming soon on there! Emily and Sarah discuss shadow work and inner child work – and their potential correlation. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube Previous episode - Lessons From Stutz Pt. 1 Jonah Hill's Stutz Edge of Tomorrow The Slight Edge: Turning Simple Disciplines Into Massive Success and Happiness by Jeff Olson The Shadow Work Workbook: Self-Care Exercises for Healing Your Trauma and Exploring Your Hidden Self by Jor-Er Caraballo Genesis music video by Grimes
Sarah and Emily share some of the biggest takeaways they got from Jonah Hill's documentary Stutz. Check this episode out and learn about the 3 aspects of life, the pyramid to activate your life, how 85% of issues people deal with can be solved, and whether it's better to listen to or get advice from your friends. Key Points In Episode: This episode of Inner Archeology revolves around the documentary Sarah and Emily brought up in the last episode – Jonah Hill's Stutz – and around what isn't covered in Stutz. Sarah shares a #truth. She would have never watched Stutz if it wasn't for the many friends suggesting she watches it. Emily talks about how Jonah Hill's therapist Stutz, who appears in the documentary, is unconventional and about his relationship with Jonah Hill. Give yourself permission to be creative in whatever work you do! This is one of Emily's biggest takeaways from Stutz. Have heard of the activation of your life force? It's a pyramid that has your relationship with your body at the bottom, your relationship with other people at the center, and your relationship with yourself at the top. Use the pyramid whenever you're having it rough. Let it be your guide and start from the bottom: focus on your relationship with your body. #PersonalGrowth Did you know that addressing your relationship with your body can typically help you solve 85% of the issues you're dealing with? That's something Stutz shared in the documentary. If you have had experiences with therapy, and not-so-good ones, then you can sympathize with Sarah. She has had a ton of experience with therapy, most of which hasn't been that beneficial. Her solution is to actually do things with your body rather than just sit around and try to “figure your brain out”. Question for you: do you listen to your friends or get advice from them? And if you have a therapist, what do you do – listen or get advice from them? Jonah Hill prefers to listen to his friends and get advice from his therapist (though, unfortunately, friends typically want to give advice and therapists tend to just listen). Another #GoldenNugget from the Stutz documentary: there are 3 aspects of reality that you can't escape from, that are always going to be present – pain, confusion, and constant work. Emily recently got to teach her daughter that. Make sure to come back for the next episode of Inner Archeology to hear about more tools from Stutz, like Emily's favorite one: the string of pearls! Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube Previous episode - Setting Intentions Jonah Hill's Stutz Girl, Wash Your Face by Rachel Hollis
Sarah and Emily continue their reflections on what last year was all about and they discuss their life goals for 2023. Listen to hear about what they want more of in the new year, what has been holding them back from achieving those things, and what their top three priorities for 2023 are going to be. Key Points In Episode: In the last episode of Inner Archeology, Emily and Sarah reflected back on 2022 and talked about making active choices about how you look at the past. Emily opens up about what she wants more of in the new year: safety, stability, and security – a strong foundation altogether. What does stability mean to you? For Sarah, different people have different definitions (she and Ben, for example, have different definitions of stability). For the new year, Sarah wants a great sense of calm because things will get more complex. #NewYearResolutions Sarah admits that she had to relearn that ‘Calm isn't boring.' Do you agree? Emily and Sarah address the questions ‘How can I be more fully me in 2023?' and ‘What has been holding you back?'. Emily wants to bring horseback riding back! It was part of her teenage years but it wasn't there for the last 15 years. She wants to change that. Another thing that she always wanted to do? Take jazz piano lessons. #Goals There are certain things that Emily and Ben have helped Sarah realize – and she wants to focus on those in 2023. Sarah had been thinking about the baby, all the logistics, about Ben's identity as a father but she hadn't thought about her identity as a mother until she saw a necklace (saying ‘Mama') her sister gave her as a gift. Are you about to become a mother? Think about what you want to be as a mom but also what you DON'T want to be. #Motherhood Emily and Sarah share their top three priorities for 2023. Here are some questions for you to reflect on (feel free to go through them with someone you love): What are your intentions for the new year? What do you want to cultivate more of in 2023? What has been holding you back from achieving that? What are your top three priorities for the new year? Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube Previous episode - Reflecting on 2022
What happens when you're aware of the pain you create for yourself through mental images? And how do you choose to remember last year? In this episode of Inner Archeology, Sarah and Emily look back at their 2022 and share their goals for the new year, including Sarah's willingness to embrace simplicity and Emily's strive to cultivate intentionally – plus, a couple of tips from Jonah Hill's new documentary Stutz. Key Points In Episode: If you're afraid of running out of things to cover as a content creator, don't sweat it! As Sarah says, you won't run out of things to say (trust her, she's been a copywriter for 10+ years). Sarah's mantra for 2023 is ‘I'm not going to unnecessarily mentally torture myself.' Being aware of the fact that we often create pain through the images we create for ourselves is powerful. Keep that in mind the next time it happens. For Emily there are two layers: it's about stopping the pain that comes as a result of the thoughts and stories we create, and the second is about actually cultivating joy, healing, and trust through our way of thinking. What does Sarah think about simplicity? ‘It's booooriiiing!' However, focusing on doing less and simplifying things is what her next few months are going to be about. Emily has been in survival mode for the last two years and she wants to change things in 2023. She wants to raise the baseline of the overall quality of her life, as well as cultivating music and art in her life. #LifeGoals As you're thinking about your goals for the new year, try to be specific. If you're thinking about baselines, try to define that as much as you can. Are you referring to health? To nutrition? To working out? To something else? Btw, specific baselines are covered in Sarah's upcoming book! #ComingSoon Sarah brings up a big lesson from Jonah Hill's documentary Stutz: always work on your life force by starting on your relationship with your body. An unexpected joy for Emily last year? Dancing! For Sarah, there are two: how her relationship with Ben has unfolded (which surprises her all the time), and having a ton of F-U-N doing an event with Emily. For 2022, Sarah chooses to remember it as the year where she stopped being small in business and in life. For Emily, that's TBD. Another golden nugget from Jonah Hill's Stutz: pain, uncertainty, and working on yourself are three constants that are always there. The key is to continue to move forward and even embrace them. Emily said it: ‘It's never all dark. Even when darkness seems everywhere, there's ALWAYS some intrinsic light in it.' #InspiringWords Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube Sarah's YouTube channel 30 Rock Daughter Drink This Water: A Book of Sacred Love by Jaiya John Jonah Hill's Stutz
What's scarcity all about? And how can you make sure that, paradoxically, it isn't something that takes away, but rather, adds and gives? In this episode of Inner Archeology, Sarah and Emily talk about the role of scarcity within their personal and professional life, and they share some of their experiences with scarcity. Key Points In Episode: There are some fun “roasting bits” coming soon, so consider subscribing to the show! Plus, there are more hilarious bonus episodes available at Patreon.com/InnerArcheology. Have you ever found yourself in a hotel room dying for some water but debate about taking the one from the minibar (clearly overpriced!) or get it elsewhere? When you're in the car and the AC is on, do you go for windows closed or open? During summer, Emily looooves to drive with her windows down and the AC blasting! Emily opens up about her “fruit scarcity” and “fruit hoarding” issue, and what that led to when she was living in Scotland. Emily and Sarah talk about having scarcity toward things – having them but not really using them… Sarah and Emily share the journal scarcity “episode” they recently had. You know the feeling about something that feels irreplaceable? When you think about it, and you think hard, you may end up noticing a sign of scarcity and then realizing it wasn't irreplaceable. #FoodForThought Sarah and Emily go over embracing the feeling of scarcity, what Sarah's experience with a bad accountant led to, and the question ‘If I lost everything you owned, how would I be?' Stay away from scarcity dating! Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube Shanola journals Moleskin journals
How do you approach archetypes? And how do you deal with labels: do you own them or are you afraid of them? In this episode of Inner Archeology, Sarah and Emily talk about the role labels play, how they go about them, and how to avoid having your life influenced by other people's archetypes. Key Points In Episode: Have you ever noticed how when you're in a challenging situation, and you come out on the other side and you've grown, you think to yourself, ‘I did it! I've mastered it!' Then before you know it, you're in that situation again? #That'sCalledLife Assigning new “labels” to ourselves is a process and it takes time. Sarah shares the example of the students in her course. Think about it: you may be a writer but also an entrepreneur, a CEO, or something else. We tend to have these associations and create fantasy scenarios solely based on small snippets of information we've gathered from TV or people in our lives. Emily shares that we often look at the negative aspects of these archetypes and end up having a deep-soul identity crisis. Even though it's other people who assign you a label, you're the one that gets to define what it actually looks like for you! As Sarah puts it, it's the archetypes that you've created in your mind that make you want to associate or distance yourself from a particular label. Is there any label you've been “allergic” to? If so, try to ask where your thoughts about it actually come from. Seeing any difference now? Sarah and Emily touch upon how embracing certain archetypes can impact you, as well as Imposter Syndrome and the complexity and layers an archetype may have. Sarah shares a story about a recent conversation with a friend of Ben's where she ended up playing dumb (and wasn't happy about it!). Emily talks about a very specific way in which we sometimes sabotage our growth curve. How do you feel when people ask you, ‘What do you do?'? Emily and Sarah address that question. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube Previous episode - Holding Space For Each Other's Joy
It's easy to say no when you're down or to feel sad, angry, or bitter when thinking about past hardships… but what if you said YES! to more joy? And what if you did that even while you were in a dark place? In this episode of Inner Archeology, Sarah and Emily talk about their personal growth: going through divorces, looking at past mistakes, and how to approach life for more happiness and positivity. Key Points In Episode: Has it ever happened to you to feel like you wouldn't like to share your joy with someone else because you know they're having a hard time? If you're feeling down, don't be bitter toward someone who's feeling happy! Sarah has been impressed by Emily's ability to be able to share some joy and laugh with Sarah despite having a hard time. Think that Emily was able to wedding dress shopping with Sarah while being in the thick of a heartbreak..! The end of the year always causes reflections, and the new year is always an exciting time. What are you excited about for the new year? Emily has often thought of herself as a thought leader and mindset coach but this isn't something that will happen in her future… it's happening right now! Emily and Sarah talk about one of the biggest challenges in both of their lives: going through a divorce – and how they experienced it in different ways. It can be healing for us to see someone succeed and be happy, whether we have a big role, a small role, or no role at all in what they have gone through. Every now and then you may think about your past and may feel different ways: sadness, self-loathe, anger, frustration… but you can also look at it as an opportunity to appreciate how far you've come and how much you've grown. When Sarah went through a divorce, she didn't really have anyone to be there for her and to give her support. Sarah has some advice for anyone going through a divorce right now: ‘Get in touch with your values and behave in a way that when you look back you'll be proud of your behavior because divorce is just an ugly process that often brings out the worst in people.' It's not easy but Emily is so right: ‘Even when things aren't easy, I'll grow through my experiences.' Holding space for other people's joy while you're in a dark place is worth it. #QuoteOfTheDay Sarah believes that she could only do part of her healing by herself. The other part required another person, a partner, to show up for her. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube
Do the maladaptive coping mechanisms you developed in childhood have to define you into adulthood, or can you break free from these patterns and beliefs to achieve personal growth? In this episode of Inner Archeology, Sarah and Emily talk about the after-effects of challenging childhood dynamics, generational differences among parents, and how you can foster emotional intelligence and be a bridge between generations. Key Points In Episode: Inner Archeology has been going for almost a year now, woo-hoo! The topic of today's episode has been coming up a lot in conversations Emily has been having lately – and it's something that applies pretty much across the board. And it's that most of us didn't have an emotionally healthy upbringing. At that time, we didn't have the skills nor understanding, while our parents' generation lacked the awareness, skills and tools. Sarah points out that the fact that very few of us were raised in healthy homes means that we're collectively shifting toward strengthening emotional intelligence and awareness. Do you agree? Our generation serves as the bridge because it experienced that childhood and is now focused on creating a different environment for our children. #WeTheHealingBridge Speaking of generations, there's also a resentment toward our generation, an inability to accept the fact that our generation acknowledges that some childhood things weren't healthy. True, the older generation may have 50-60 years of coping with things a certain way, but when they're open to embrace vulnerability and growth to achieve change - talk about personal growth…simply inspiring! Some people may go through an identity crisis because they have attached their identity to manipulative coping mechanisms. #Facts Sarah shares that whenever she's able to identify psychological human behavior and tendencies, it's easier for her to push back on them. Sarah loves seeing Emily coach people and remind them that ‘Change doesn't have to be an all or nothing thing. You can try on beliefs and new ways of doing things.' #QuoteOfTheDay Emily said it best: ‘The ones who are successful are the ones who experienced fear and resistance but they did things anyway.' Confidence comes from taking action, says Sarah…agree or disagree? Emily used to be someone who said ‘byeee!' as soon as she felt as if she outgrew a friend, whereas Sarah feels she has a high tolerance for discomfort and uncomfortable conversations. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube Recent IA episode - Generational Evolution MasterYourFate90.com (Emily's coaching program) Kevin James Thorton Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself: How to Lose Your Mind and Create a New One by Joe Dispenza
What could a 10-minute DMT trip do? And what happens when things go wrong with marijuana (aka: cannabis)? In this episode of Inner Archeology, Sarah and Emily continue their talk on psychedelic drugs and talk about an eye-opening DMT trip Emily went on, where the fear of certain drugs comes from, and share their cannabis mistake stories. Key Points In Episode: This episode is part 2 of Emily's and Sarah's conversation about the benefits of psychedelic drugs. If Emily had to pick a psychedelic drug today, it would be DMT… What about your pick? Emily would pick it because a DMT trip lasts for about 10 minutes and there's no comedown and nothing afterwards. With mushrooms, on the other hand, you're “committed” for several hours and there's some tricky time afterwards. Emily did DMT before she did mushrooms, and she did it twice. Did you know that everyone who has taken DMT says to have experienced the same onset? There's a clear difference between psilocybin and DMT. With the first, there are some thematic things – like feeling connected to the earth – but the experience can change from person to person. With psilocybin, on the other hand, there's a sort of structure to it. One major difference Emily experienced with DMT compared to other drugs is that she didn't feel loopy with her thoughts, rather lucid the whole time. It was a lucid, cerebral experience. Have you ever heard of The Dome? That's what someone on a DMT trip goes into (you can even Google Dome to see artistic representations of it). During her DMT trip, Emily saw Thoth (ancient Egypt's god of the moon). Oh, in case you're wondering, she knows this because of doing a Google search later on. #JustSayin' As Thoth approached Emily, who felt a bit uneasy because she didn't have anything to offer, he telepathically said to her and kept repeating, ‘You're enough just as you are.' Emily then felt Thoth pass through her, and she ended up in what she believes was nirvana, a little slice of heaven. Emily's friends, who saw her go on her DMT trip, told her she was sobbing and kept repeating, ‘Ok, ok' to Thoth. Sarah admits that she would be afraid to do DMT because she doesn't like the idea of visuals…what about you? Sarah believes that the time to try ayahuasca, psilocybin or anything else is something that should come to you naturally. You shouldn't feel nervous about it or forced into it. For Sarah and Emily, the fear of trying certain drugs like LSD and acid typically comes from being afraid of losing your mind. Is that something you're thinking too? Did you know that, the first time she did LSD, Sarah got pranked by a friend of hers who knew she was doing it for the first time but pretended not to be himself? #HiDylan Emily also had a psychedelic experience with marijuana – but it happened by mistake because she smoked too much of it. She smoked a 50-milligram joint a friend accidentally gave her (for reference, when smoking weed, Sarah would smoke 2.5 milligrams and Emily around 5!). She got stuck in the bathroom for what felt like half an hour because she didn't have the energy to head back to the living room and, when she did, she stayed in a fetal position while feeling as if she was having a panic attack. #NotFunAtAll Most people who smoke weed do have a mistake story… True? Sarah has given up smoking weed, she's more into edibles nowadays. As for her weed mistake story, it happened during her senior year of high school, toward the end of the year. She ate crumbs out of a bag of weed cookies and…let's just say she wasn't able to walk out of class on her own! Are you a creative person? If so, know that marijuana has helped Emily with her creative process because it has gotten her out of her usual way of thinking (actually, that's how she got to Inner Archeology as the name of this show!). Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube Part 1 of Exploring Psychedelics Thoth Andrew Huberman podcast episode - The Effects of Cannabis (Marijuana) on the Brain & Body
Psychedelic drugs: a dangerous thing to avoid at all cost or a life-altering resource? In this episode of Inner Archeology, Sarah and Emily talk about psychedelic drugs, share their experiences with them and go over how they both went on an exploration journey with mushrooms. Key Points In Episode: This episode is part 1 of Emily's and Sarah's conversation about the benefits of psychedelic drugs. Psychedelics were massively vilified by our parents' generation but they now seem more open to the idea that they could be acceptable. Sarah's mom even jokes about going on ayahuasca retreats! LOL Emily had her first experience with Silybin in her 30s – she hadn't done anything prior to that. She did a massive mushroom trip that ended up being life-altering, in a really good way. When the time is right, Sarah would like to be able to have conversations about drugs with her kids because that's something that wasn't really talked about before. What about you, would you want to leave your children to figure things out on their own or would you open up to them about them? The world is made of many things, including drugs, alcohol, and sex, so why not talk about them? Emily topped the mushrooms up with a small dose of ecstasy, which led to all sorts of good visuals and her feeling very connected to #MotherEarth. Everything – the sky, ground, etc. – felt very alive and communicative. Mushrooms feel very feminine to Emily, whereas marijuana feels very masculine, energy-wise. Do you agree? Did you know that psychedelic drugs tend to highlight end-of-life stuff? There have been studies showing that. Hearing mushroom stories always makes Sarah giggle because they are so similar even when it's different people sharing their experiences. #MushroomThoughts During her mushroom trip, Emily felt as if she was embodying the mother of the universe – feeling all of the joy, sorrow, and loss of a mother that had ever existed. There was a freaky moment where Emily felt that each of her friends was her child and they were pulling parts of her body..! Emily realized that what she was experiencing was the epitome of her potential as a mother, making the greatest sacrifice she could make by giving her body to her children to sustain them. She felt so in alignment and as if she was an eternal floating memory. Emily walked away from that experience feeling really connected to the idea that being a mother was something inherent to her whether or not her mother was still on planet Earth. She also felt as if she faced her own death, and it wasn't scary at all. Though it took her some time to process the whole experience. Sarah has done acid once (#NotHerThing) and mushrooms 4-5 times. Only one mushroom experience was positive while the others weren't negative but more controlled and in a party setting. She once snapped and wondered whether she was going to lose her mind… and also learned that you shouldn't look at yourself in the mirror when tripping (oh, and avoid public bathrooms too!) and that she'd rather be immersed in nature. Her first experience doing mushrooms was at Hangout Fest where she swam in the ocean, while her second was in Bali with someone who really knew what they were doing and with a beach and stars as the setting. Sarah's mushroom trip in Bali was a mile marker that helped her realize that her relationship with her boyfriend at the time needed to come to an end and she felt the universe putting its hands on her cheeks and saying ‘You're doing great, you're trying so hard and doing a great job!'. She was immediately released from that relationship, had a massive empathetic growth toward people in her family, her anxiety levels plummeted, and she felt as if the Milky Way was fire, all while listening to some great music. Sarah feels that, in a really weird way, her Bali trip set her up to have a baby. It has been one of the top 3 most important experiences that ever happened in her life. If you're thinking of going on a psychedelic trip, keep in mind that the people who are around you, the intentions you set, and your surroundings can be the difference between a truly spiritual and revolutionary experience and something uncomfortable. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube Hangout Music Fest
Great things and growth happen at the end of your comfort zone… does that apply to relationships too? In this episode of Inner Archeology, Sarah and Emily discuss the connection between trust, risk, uncertainty, and safety in relationships – including the role of expectations, the idea of self-trust, and how to approach failed relationships. Key Points In Episode: Have you heard of Emily's Master Your Fate 90-day program? Learn more about it over at MasterYourFate90.com. Today's episode is inspired by some of the relationship conversations Emily has been having with her cohort plus some inspiration she got from an Instagram profile: the intersection between trust and risk, safety and uncertainty in relationships. The more trust we develop within ourselves, the more safety we create inside of us and the more capacity we have for risk and uncertainty that are needed to experience joy and beautiful things in life, says Emily. Do you agree? For Sarah, healing comes from relationships. It isn't just about having trust in yourself…when it comes to relationships, you eventually need to put trust in someone else – hoping they will treat you with respect. What comes to your mind when thinking about self-trust? Do you think it's about developing trust in yourself by keeping the promises you made? Is it about rooting your identity within yourself instead of on external things? (For Emily, it's the latter). We often think of failed relationships as failures… but, actually, they can be great sources of self-trust, confidence and self-worth. #PersonalDevelopment Do you know how we experience growth at the end of our comfort zone? The same can be said for relationships: if you want meaningful and deep relationships, you need to accept a level of risk and discomfort. Sarah shares a story that brings the role of expectations in a relationship into the picture. Both Sarah and Emily think that the way you see whether someone really cares is how they show up, especially in repair. What's your take? Are you replaying toxic relationships over and over again? Chances are that you have normalized harmful and toxic behavior and have mistaken it for safety. Recognizing this was huge for Sarah. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube MasterYourFate90.com (Emily's 90-day program) @QueerCosmos on Instagram Rachel Botsman
Have you ever noticed that when you start seeking external validation you become dependent on it? And how should you approach situations where you're on the receiving end of not-so-nice behavior or thoughts? In this episode of Inner Archeology, Sarah and Emily talk about the repercussions of dealing with hardship, the role of empathy when dealing with people who experience something you have experienced, and who you should actually seek validation from. Key Points In Episode: Today's conversation piggybacks on what Sarah and Emily talked about in the last episode: generational differences when it comes to parenting. Have you ever noticed how, when noticing someone parenting differently than you, certain subconscious thoughts are triggered? When that happens, you start evaluating your own childhood and sometimes this helps you realize that what you experienced wasn't OK. Sometimes you feel ready to look into it, while sometimes you don't. That's OK, don't be too hard on yourself! Emily shares that, when it comes to experiencing pain and trauma, people tend to fall into one of two camps: those who survived and who are maybe better because of it, and those who went through something painful and they don't want you to experience the same thing. Sarah sees a third group: people who went through trauma and who stay in touch with the empathy toward the person they used to be when they experienced hardship. Let's be honest: we all have had situations where something arises and our gut reaction isn't the nicest. Don't worry, it happens. Sarah suggests thinking about how you'd like to show up in the world and acting accordingly. #EmbraceEmpathy Has it ever happened to you to have felt resentment toward someone who has got it “easier” than you? Think about your children having access to pretty much anything but yet complain about things you, as a child, would have only dreamed of having… Sarah and Emily go over how Emily dealt with things when she was on the receiving end of Sarah lacking empathy, as well as how to deal with similar situations. When you're seeking external validation for something that would really need your internal validation you become dependent on constant reassurance. Have trust in yourself, you've got this! Most times, your own – internal – validation is all you need. #QuoteOfTheDay Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube Previous episode - Generational Evolution
Being a parent today isn't the same as it was when the parents were kids. What are some of the aspects parents from different generations had to deal with? Emily and Sarah reflect on the generational evolution of parenting, the role of feelings and why it's OK to acknowledge that there are some issues in your childhood – without this being a judgment of your parents' way of parenting. Key Points In Episode: Today's conversation was sparked by a weekend Sarah spent with other women talking about all sorts of things, and comparing their way of conversing and giving advice versus her family – her mom in particular. Do you use TikTok? That's where Sarah recently found a video that discussed the differences between our generation's way of parenting and our parents' generation's way of parenting. The TikTok video kind of made the point of how it must be hard for our parents to see a new generation parenting in a different way, because it can potentially reflect on their parenting, the way they were parented and makes them feel as if they (and their parents) did something wrong. It's OK to look back at things in your childhood and realize that some things may not have been OK. Remember: you may see this as reflection, conversation and personal growth, while, for your parents, this could be you criticizing, whining and complaining. Don't forget it! Are you about to become a mother? Keep in mind that your relationship with your mom is about to experience a big shift. It's normal, though. Most mothers and daughters go through it. Emily believes that there are two ways of looking at things when, as a parent, you realize that your daughter's way of parenting is different than yours. You either see it as criticism or look at it as ‘I've given my child an opportunity to learn, grow, and do things better than I've ever done before.' Do you agree? For Sarah, this parenting debate is part of the generational evolution that happens… and be ready because it will happen with your daughter too. Is there something that has served as a catalyst for your personal growth? For Emily, that's realizing that there were issues in her childhood – even though this doesn't mean that she doesn't love her parents. As Sarah puts it: ‘You can say something was wrong or wasn't great for you in your childhood without it necessarily being criticism of your parents per se but more a realization of what happened and they did the best they could with the tools they had. The only example they had was what their parents did.' #QuoteOfTheDay Let's be honest: we've all unintentionally created harm in somebody else's life. Being able to look at it without having to feel like a bad person is key. Have you heard of Divorce Is Not the End of the World? Emily talks about what reading it with her daughter has made her realize. Let's talk about feelings… or let's… not?!? Unlike today, past generations couldn't really afford to feel feelings and didn't have room to talk about them. We're privileged and we should really value this. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube TikTok Divorce Is Not the End of the World: Zoe and Evan's Coping Guide for Kids by Zoe and Evan Stern
This may be news to you… but embracing paradoxes is normal. Actually, even more than that, it's the key to a happier life! Hear about some paradox examples and learn why having this approach will improve the quality of your life. Key Points In Episode: Today's episode of Inner Archeology revolves around embodying and holding space for paradox. You'll hear Emily and Sarah share some paradox examples. Do you think in black and white terms? Emily believes that, by doing that, we sometimes create pain for ourselves because we limit our ability to experience a lot of joy and pleasure in life. Oh, and Sarah sees this as one of the key pieces to happiness. #Fact: embracing paradoxes can help when our mind makes limiting claims. It's possible to be sad while also experiencing happiness in other areas of your life – even though our brain wouldn't like for us to feel it, and may make us feel guilty afterward… Sarah thinks that it's very hard to have a lot of judgment toward other people and genuinely be happy. Do you agree? Another area some people struggle with is when they would like to experience happiness but tread carefully because they don't want others, who are having it bad, to feel sad or offended by it. An example of this is a woman who's happy with breastfeeding her baby but limits her joy because breastfeeding can be an issue for so many other women. It's not your fault and you shouldn't stop feeling happy! Want to know what really pissed Sarah off during the pandemic? The inability of both sides – people pro-vaccines and those against them – to listen to the other side and realize that there were truths on both sides. The saddest part is that, at the end of the day, both sides were focusing on the same thing: avoiding doing something harmful. This is a #BigTruth Sarah shared: “If you're interested in making real change, the answer isn't to be angry and yell and people who think differently… It's about being able to hear different perspectives and have conversations.” This may be tough for you to hear but when you realize that to be human is to be a walking paradox, you're going to feel lighter and happier in the long run. When you live using a binary way of thinking, where everything that there's in this world is either what you deem to be good, truthful and valuable or the opposite, you live in a pinhole and constantly feel those things as sort of threatening. On the other hand, when you realize that the world is rich and full of uniqueness, nuances and complexities – including those you don't fully understand or would follow yourself – and you understand that different things can coexist, you get to live a more liberating, richer, and deeper life. You can be successful while experiencing imposter syndrome or you can be happy while also experiencing some confusion, uncertainty, or anxiety. We're complex beings and that's a beautiful thing – repeat this as a mantra! Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube
Dysfunctional behavior…we all deal with it, to one degree or another. Is that behavior healthy? Absolutely not! So, why do we find ourselves dealing with it from time to time? In this episode of Inner Archeology, Sarah and Emily open up about their dysfunctional behavior, the mechanisms we put in place to protect ourselves from it, and what we can do to help ourselves and others dealing with it. Key Points In Episode: You can have a voice and still be messy – both can happen at the same time, and that's OK. Sarah believes that there's a general shift happening, and that's a good thing! Earlier, it felt as if one needed to be an expert on something before saying anything, but now we're moving into a more realistic place where we're acknowledging our limitations of knowledge and experience but focusing on finding people that your message resonates with. There isn't just value at the end. The real value is in the journey. #QuoteOfTheDay Have you ever felt as if certain things aren't going great and you know that, but you subconsciously defend and justify them to yourself? For Emily, that happens when you're making changes: You know something is holding you back, but don't know how to shift yet. So, you gravitate toward what's familiar and comfortable instead of going outside of your comfort zone. Sound familiar? Sarah found herself in a situation when she shifted from scarcity to abundance. She wanted to live more abundantly and have an impact on the world but could barely take care of herself. Don't be afraid to open up to others! A conversation with a friend brought up the fact that Sarah's desires for the future were in contradiction with the belief system she was following and defending. You feel frustrated because your beliefs aren't aligned with your values or with the life you'd like to create – right? Are you planning to talk with a friend who's dealing with dysfunctional behavior and who feels kind of stuck? Sarah suggests asking for permission before showing them the blind spot that's holding them back. We often create stories that we kind of adhere our identity to in some ways, and then we defend them even though they aren't really serving us. Sarah feels as if, in today's world, there's an overemphasis on self-reliance and independence. Do you agree? Remember: When talking to a friend who's “stuck,” it isn't about getting them to move through it or being frustrated that they aren't. It's just about having candid conversations. And yes, there's a connection between dysfunctional behavior, health, and happiness… Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube Previous Episode: Powerlessness vs. Over-Responsibility: Do You Lean One Way?
Some people go through life feeling that things just happen to them, while others have a sense of over-responsibility when things go wrong…which camp are you in? In this episode of Inner Archeology, we go over this duality and discuss what to consider and do to become aware of what you're experiencing, and how to live life with less worries. Key Points In Episode: There are people who go through life feeling as if life is kind of happening to them, while others automatically blame themselves when things go wrong. Which one are you? Emily has primarily experienced powerlessness, while Sarah has been dealing with a sense of over-responsibility. Have you ever tried counterbalancing what you're identifying with the most, between powerlessness and over-responsibility? If not, give it a try! What motivates you toward being the best version of yourself? Think about your worst traits and work toward improving those. Otherwise, think about your best traits and focus on maintaining them. #LiveABetterLife As a child, Emily tended to trust everybody, while Sarah did the opposite and was always questioning them. No surprise that they fall on opposite ends of the spectrum as grownups! #FetalPositionEmily #AngrySarah Quick note for all mothers-to-be: just know that your sense of smell and taste in the first trimester are going to be very powerful. Shoot an email to innerarcheology@gmail.com to share which camp you're in (powerlessness or over-responsibility?). Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube
You're out with friends and you're having fun…until that one friend arrives! You know, the one who monopolizes the conversation and whose energy just doesn't match that of other people in your group? In this episode of Inner Archeology we go over the role of energetic intelligence when meeting others and why not being inclusive doesn't necessarily mean not letting others in. Key Points In Episode: Have you ever noticed how, when out with a group of friends, each of them impacts the dynamic of the group? Sarah believes that the people who attend an event also very much create it. If you're a “the more, the merrier” kind of person, remember that inviting someone who doesn't quite fit the vibe is actually you doing a disservice to others! #truth Emily points out that there's a level of energy related to curating spaces and atmospheres when you're a host, and there's one when you're a leader. Some people think that If you aren't being inclusive, then you're excluding others… but is it really that black and white or are there some nuances? Asking yourself “what's the intention of the gathering?”' is going to help you address any internal conflicts you may have about inclusivity or the lack thereof. Finding yourself in a situation where you don't like the vibe? Ask yourself what you can do to change that. Heard of emotional intelligence? Well, just know that there's energetic intelligence too. There are people who are inserting their energy into everyone, then there are those who are black holes, energy vampires. Emily's 90-day coaching program will open in January! Join the waiting list over at MasterYourFate90.com. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube The Art of Gathering: How We Meet and Why It Matters by Priya Parker I Love You Honeybear by Father John Misty Emily's course - Master Your Fate
Traveling… Some people put it off because it sounds expensive, others because “now isn't a good time.” But is that really so? We talk about all that in this episode of Inner Archeology (which is more of a journal of a traveling pregnant woman). Sarah shares her stories of passing a country's king by boat, experiencing complete silence in the Saraha desert, and being served a fancy dinner when all you want are… three boiled eggs. Oh, and did we mention she went on adventures in Morocco and Norway as a pregnant woman? This is going to be a fun one! Key Points In Episode: Sarah just came back from a long trip. She and Ben found a cheap offer to fly from LAX to Stockholm, Sweden. From there, they headed to Norway…and what a trip up North it was! Norway wasn't a place Sarah was that interested in to start with but it has now become “one of the most gorgeous places I've been in my life” and that she feels should be at the top of everyone's bucket list – to her, it felt like being in Lord of the Rings. Ever heard of fjords? Sarah goes “all National Geographic” and talks about Norwegian fjords. Did you know that Norway has a king? Sarah and Ben passed his boat while on a ferry (yep, they needed to take ferries… a bunch of them!) If you're into folklore, hobbits, and gnomes, Norway is a must! Do you like the Northern Lights? Sarah got to see them – WOW! Have you ever noticed, in some places, there's a community aspect to something like the Northern Lights or sunsets? There, people gather to experience them together. It's not easy to explore Norway as a pregnant woman. #FACT Do you know anyone who has actually barfed in a barf bag? We do! For more details, ask Emily… Many people see traveling as an expensive thing but it really doesn't have to be. Want to know the craziest thing about the Sahara desert? It isn't how hot or big it is but it's how silent it is. While in the Sahara desert, Sarah got to experience a silence in which she could hear her own heartbeat, hear breathing…everything. Sarah shares the story of her adventures in Morocco, including driving through sand dunes, going sunset watching on the back of a camel, and one of the most magical experiences of her life. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Inner Archeology on YouTube The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho Dune
What comes to mind when you think about religion? Have you ever heard about religious trauma? Maybe you've experienced it yourself? This episode is part 2 of our conversation about Emily's story of dealing with religious trauma. Listen to learn about the thing that has hurt Emily the most, the tools she has used, and how she navigates the world today after she has left limiting and harmful belief systems behind her. Key Points In Episode: Are you part of our Patreon fam? If not, hurry up, because we've got something juicy coming up soon! This episode is part 2 of our conversation about Emily's story of dealing with religious trauma – if you haven't already, make sure to check out part 1 first to get the full picture of what we're talking about. While dealing with religious trauma, Emily felt as if she was holding space for people who needed help dealing with it. If you're dealing with religious trauma, hang in there! True, there aren't as many tools to help you with it as there are for other topics (like addiction) but you can and will make it. Until just a few years ago, almost nobody had heard of religious trauma – and the main resource about it was the book Leaving the Fold. Emily feels that if you had to move out of any type of all-encompassing indoctrination, you essentially have to disassemble and reassemble your reality and sense of self. Do you agree? Time to get vulnerable: what's one of the things that are or have hurt you the most? For Emily, it was the ‘I can't trust myself because my human nature is sinful and bad' belief that really left a scar. Have you ever noticed how, if you've talked with someone who has suffered from religious trauma, they often tend to defend their abusers? It's sad but they do defend those that hurt them so badly, just because they don't want to disrupt anything. Don't live life as if things are just happening to you, but focus on feeling like an active participant in your reality. #WakeUpAndShowUp Emily uses meditation as a way to go on an inner exploration journey – have you ever tried using it that way? What are your biggest epiphanies? For Emily, it was believing that her reality was not consensual... What comes to mind when you think about healing? Talking a lot? Wanting to do more? Wrong! Healing is actually about doing less – it's about taking things off, unlearning, and even, potentially, looking at simplifying. The book Leaving the Fold, Alex Elle's message and affirmations on Instagram, and learning how to set boundaries and say no are all things that helped Emily in her healing process. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Leaving the Fold by Marlene Winell Alex Elle on Instagram Part 1 of Religious Trauma: Emily's Story of Overcoming Lies and Pain
Have you ever heard the term religious trauma? Perhaps you've even experienced it yourself? In this episode of Inner Archeology, we talk about Emily's story of dealing with religious trauma, what that entailed and why it's something she often thinks about when discussing other topics. Key Points In Episode: Have you gone through something hard but have kept it to yourself? Just know that opening up to people creates a space for people to have conversations you wouldn't otherwise have! Keep in mind that talking about religious trauma doesn't mean you're “anti-religion”. True: sometimes, talking about religious trauma goes hand-in-hand with deconversion but that's not always the case. When thinking about religious trauma there are four factors that can help determine its severity: how involved was your family with religion? how exposed were you to other communities and spaces? to what extent did you believe what was being told to you? did you experience sexual abuse within church settings? Sure, admitting something like the religious trauma you may have faced is a piece of cake, right? Wrong! Emily, for instance, didn't really admit to herself that she had gone through religious trauma until her mother passed away from breast cancer 5 years ago. Emily grew up in a very religious family that attended Baptist-rooted sermons and seemed to be about what she calls “fire and brimstone”, the fear of the wrath of God and hell. This constant fear for her soul led to Emily getting PTSD as a child. Know someone who has gone through something difficult, religious trauma perhaps? Being curious and having genuine conversations is an excellent way to address hard topics. Hearing this may give you chills: Emily lived in a constant state of fear of divine wrath but it wasn't something her family said that hurt her the most, but rather something the community around her said. Emily developed the idea of self-abandonment because she was told over and over again that her natural self was sinful and wrong, and that she needed to kill her sinful self and allow Jesus to live within her. She experienced a complete disassociation from her intuition and internal guidance system – plus, she developed a profound sense of distrust toward herself and stopped being able to function properly. Stop and think for a moment, and ask yourself ‘what if that was me, what would I have done?'. Emily got fed up with the spiritual and psychological abuse she was subject to once she got married – and she walked away from it all at age 22, after having dealt with all kinds of situations, including not being given access to food… Yes, food! If you're dealing with trauma and feel stuck, chances are that what's blocking you is the anger and resentment space you may be in. Think about it: a past trauma you may have experienced is something you can trace back many things to. For Emily, that's definitely the case with religious trauma. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Kevin James Thornton on TikTok
Have you ever given someone the benefit of the doubt? What about not giving it to them? Go down one route, and you'll experience the world one way. Pick the other and you'll transform your life! This episode of Inner Archeology talks about what trusting (or distrusting) others really means and the impact it can have on how you perceive and move through the world. Key Points In Episode: Do you ever give people the benefit of the doubt? Sarah feels that it's rooted in a choice about how you want to feel and move through the world. Choose to be trusting toward people and you'll create a sort of filter that will help you experience things in a positive way. Don't want to give it to them? Then, be ready to validate your beliefs somehow… Emily believes that the key question you should ask yourself is ‘do I believe people are intending me harm?' Do you want to stop creating a ton of unnecessary suffering and pain for yourself? Stop living as if everybody is intending to harm you, then! Growing up, Sarah heard little white lies all the time in her family. As she grew, she moved through the world thinking that everyone was lying about things all the time. Emily said it best: giving people the benefit of the doubt isn't so much about what others are doing to you, but rather about the quality of your life. Want another great quote to tweet? Here you go, courtesy of Sarah: ‘Working to give people the benefit of the doubt actually improves your life much more than anything else.' It depends on your personality: you may be trusting toward someone right from the get go or you may not. However, it's important to be conscious of what you're doing and of the potential negative narrative you might be creating… Have you ever looked at people passing you by, and realized that they may be going through some hard things like you may be at the moment? Everyone's life is just as complex as yours. That thought-process is called Sonder. If something is ticking you off right now, take a breather and think. If you think hard enough, you're probably going to be able to trace it back to the thing that actually affected you in the past and that's still having that effect on you today. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram @Inner.Archeology on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology
Let's be honest. Building the life of your dreams and achieving the freedom to do what you want – when you want – is hard. But with the right attitude and willingness to get outside of your comfort zone you can embrace entrepreneurship and make it happen! Here's why you should leave “old school” beliefs behind, and what you can do to become an entrepreneur and put people over profit. Key Points in Episode: So many of us just move through life being so unconscious about all the beliefs that are actually calling the shots. Reality-check time: have you ever noticed that? Do you want to embrace entrepreneurship? Just go for it! It isn't about beliefs people had 10 years ago, there's much more accessibility now. It's an opportunity to break free from constraints around what life and careers should look like. Wouldn't you want to give it a shot? What you see as pillars today can actually be that as a result of your parents' beliefs being passed down to you. Look at what the world looks like and is today, and create your own beliefs! Your limiting beliefs and lack of awareness are what's holding you back from doing whatever you're dreaming of doing. #LifeTruth Sarah said it best: ‘What is true for me may not be true for my children.' Technology is changing so rapidly, so you have to keep your eyes open. This is your life we're talking about! Some people believe that you need to have a special gene or something to be an entrepreneur. Are you one of them? Emily used to believe that herself, but she would be the first to tell you that that's BS... Be confident, believe that you have what it takes and give it a shot. Step aside men-run businesses, here comes feminine entrepreneurship – where it isn't about ‘profit first' but about ‘people first'. People saying ‘I'm not an entrepreneur because I could never not have the security of my paycheck each week or month' is a bunch of you know what… A regular paycheck isn't promised nor guaranteed, it's just regular. But it could disappear at any moment (just think about the 2008 recession or the pandemic). Have you ever experienced good discomfort? You know, that thing that change and growth come from? Reality-check time: you're a person that grows. You're going to make mistakes, you're going to learn from them, so never stop believing in yourself. Isn't it just wild that it's a radical concept that we have the right to enjoy our life? Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology Peter Diamandis
What does it actually mean to be pregnant? How are you going to look and feel, and what will you be able to do while expecting? In this new episode of Inner Archeology, we look at setting realistic expectations for your pregnancy, the role of surrendering, how to rely on others and when being independent isn't necessarily the best of things. Key Points In Episode: Was Sarah really thinking of doing her pregnancy as if she was not pregnant? Heck yeah! In your mind, you're expecting to be eating and working out the same as you did before and don't want to be one of those women who only talks about being pregnant… but in reality, you only eat crackers, can't exercise because you're too nauseous and only talk about being pregnant. Just ask Sarah for more! How do you feel about surrendering? That's something you're going to learn to feel during your pregnancy, says Emily. 70% is the new 100%! Or at least it's been that for Sarah lately – and that's ok. Yes, being pregnant may cause you to constantly burp when you're talking to people and to casually fall asleep on the dining room rug right after dinner… #TrueFacts Who wouldn't like to be an independent woman and not have to rely on others? Well, things are going to change during your pregnancy, no doubt! To rely on others or not to rely on others? Sarah has always been ultra-independent and has had to adjust to relinquish that power and be reliant on others, while Emily (who's used to relying on others) has had to practice self-reliance and independence. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology The Second Mountain: The Quest for a Moral Life by David Brooks Attachments: Why You Love, Feel, and Act the Way You Do by Dr. Tim Clinton & Gary Sibcy
Shame, we've all faced it, some more often than others. It must be because of something we wear, something someone said, or for another reason – but it definitely ends up affecting our lives… In this new episode of Inner Archeology, we look at all things shame, why it sucks, and how you can turn it into a positive thing to achieve complete exploration of your body and sexuality, unlock your life and live it to the fullest. Key Points From This Episode: Talking over others has been a constant in Sarah's family… Just think that, when she was 6, her sister once stood up on a chair (at a restaurant!) to try to get a word in. You want to feel comfortable in your own skin, you want to look and feel beautiful, sensual, and sexy, because you are! Women need to cover themselves to avoid teasing men because they can't control themselves? Screw that! This idea of covering up because “the body is sinful and shameful” comes from puritanical thinking and purity culture but it doesn't have to define you. It's a fact: we've hypersexualized the female body. Think about going around with no bra because it's so hot outside or about people getting offended by a woman breastfeeding her baby because we've oversexualized breasts. #ItMakesNoSense What comes to mind when you think about your puberty? That's when everything changed: you started to look and feel different, you began to get attention from men… It's when we start to be treated differently (and often not in a good way). Have you experienced a big trauma during your puberty because of comments about your body made by family members, getting inappropriate attention from college guys, and not feeling safe? We can relate. Boys need to be taught better so that they can have more respect for women and their bodies. And YES, the whole “you were asking for it” culture is BS. Being afraid to say no to a guy just because you're afraid he could become aggressive or turn violent is a real thing, though there shouldn't be room for it in this world! For centuries, women were someone else's “property” (just think about arranged marriages for political or economical reasons). But that stops now: your body is yours, and only yours to own. Have you ever been called a ‘slut'? If so, you can probably remember it… For Sarah, it was at the end of high school and going into college. It was devastating at first but she managed to reclaim the word and turn it into something positive. Let's talk about shame. It sucks because it holds you back from experiencing true pleasure in your own body, from dressing sexy, and from pursuing something just because others don't think you should. Have you ever noticed that the shame you're experiencing typically doesn't originate from within you, but comes from the outside? Think about it: when you're feeling ashamed, you're giving your power away… stop that! Yes, we (women) can be hypocrites – just think about women judging other women. They can be fine with a gay man wearing something without judging him but if another woman wears that… oh boy, here comes the negative comments! The world is a much better place because of all those different expressions of diversity so don't be afraid or judgmental just because you would want someone to be or do something “more like you.” Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology
Quick question: when was the last time you saw a photo of yourself and thought, “Damn! I look good!” Can you remember the last compliment you gave yourself? Or better yet, when was the last time you looked at yourself in the mirror and felt appreciation for the reflection looking back at you? Unfortunately, most of us don't give ourselves permission to do that or are too critical of ourselves that we can't see anything good in our bodies. If you're struggling with self-image, a quick photoshoot is all you need to boost your self-esteem. But there's a problem, most of us are camera shy. And it's easy to understand why - our selfies and snapshots can be pretty awful. Maybe the lighting is bad, the angle is not right, or the picture is out of focus. This is why the photographer is as important as the camera itself. Luckily, we have Emily, whose creativity and eye for aesthetics can make anyone look amazing - and all she needs is an iPhone. Join us to learn how the perfect photo can improve your self-confidence and help you embrace your authentic self in ways you've never seen before. Key Points From This Episode: How Emily can effortlessly make anyone look great in a picture. How to boost your self-confidence through well-taken photographs. How you can feel more confident in front of the camera. Nothing is worse than being overly critical about how you look. Sarah explains how mothers can use photography to embrace their sexuality and decorate their bodies with clothes that make them feel good and sexy. Understand that having beautiful pictures taken of you can be healing. Emily describes how using an iPhone to take pictures makes people relax because it feels less professional. If you're struggling to get photos of you taken, try to forget about everything around you and just enjoy the process. Tips to help you to relax and feel comfortable in front of the camera. According to Emily, your goal as the person taking the photos is to capture people in their true authentic element. The best photos rarely come from fake confidence; it only happens when you really own who you are. Sarah describes how the results of a great photography session can totally blow your mind - these photos then become the visual affirmation of how handsome or beautiful you really are. An excellent photoshoot session helps erase negative self-image and allows you to feel more connected with your own body and mind. You can use your newfound confidence from a fantastic photo session to change your perspective on life and have something physical you can be proud of. Hear about the photo shoot that Emily and Sarah did that got Emily kicked off of a dating app! This story is soo good! Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology
Planning an event, whether in-person or virtual, is difficult. Period! But the magic that can come from an in-person event can be mind blowing and transformational. Emily and Sarah share how a room full of introverts can come together, feel connected, supported and heard in a powerful way. They share the behind-the-scenes strategies they used to create this energy, and yes, even how attendees moved past that 'awkward' getting to know everyone phase. They share the beauty of learning from unexpected people and places, and the powerful stories they heard. Key Points From This Episode: How to host a successful and engaged in-person event: tips and best practices. How to get introverted business owners and entrepreneurs to become fast friends without feeling weird. How the podcast made it easier to meet and connect. The true magic of vulnerability and the stories that are told can be everlasting. What surprised them the most from putting on this event. What defines a successful event (it's not what you may think). Sarah reveals how she and Emily shared a powerful poem that resonated with everyone in the audience and drove engagement through the roof. The beauty of learning from unexpected people, places and situations. Open yourself up to receiving wisdom anywhere! The belief that anything is possible is infectious during events. You truly can do whatever the 'F' you want! The fear of success. The true power of events and how the power of impact and belief is infectious. How Sarah went from failing the oral portion of college to speaking in front of a room of 70! Self-trust and growing as a person. Reality check: hosting an event is not about making money. It's about building a community and providing value to those who believe in your skills and abilities. Creating an event that feels like a safe place, like a living room of friends hanging out. The craziness that went on behind the scenes! Sarah shares the powerful moment the whole room exploded with excitement when she announced her pregnancy. Sooo goood!!! Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology
We have some exciting news… Sarah is pregnant! This new episode of Inner Archeology is a sort of diary of a pregnant woman. We talk about what it really means to be pregnant – from Sarah finding out that she was expecting and sharing that with Emily and Ben, all the way to morning sickness (annoying, to say the least!), the mindset shift she has undergone, and her thoughts on whether she'd like “poppyseed” to be a boy or a girl. Oh, we also talk about why food is a lifesaver – especially yogurt and snacks – and, well, buttertits! Key Points In Episode: Great news: Sarah is pregnant! Or should we say ‘pregne-art'? She had tried to keep it a secret, then she has let people know with drive-by and now she tells it all on the show! From finding out through “a premonition” and telling Ben (though he was the fourth person to learn about it LOL) all the way the mindset shift she has gone through and how things are nowadays Ads aren't your friend and they'll drive you crazy! For more info, just ask Sarah (these days, she has kind of seen them all – pregnancy and ads with newborns, as well as…infertility ads!) Morning sickness sucks, period. One minute you feel fine and are recording an exclusive episode for your Patreon supporters, then you need to cut things short and run to the bathroom to puke… When you're pregnant, you're going to rest – whether you want it or not! What about having naps during the day, going to bed at 9pm and still sleeping 12 hours? Yeah, exactly. Reality check: you're going to want help, eventually. At first, you're probably going to feel as if you don't need help even though everyone wants to help the big pregnant lady. Little by little, however, you're probably going to feel different. Ben has simply been awesome: runs to the store to buy all kinds of snacks on earth, only to return the next day to buy some more (different ones, of course) and yogurt. He sees himself being a lovely father of whatever “poppyseed” is going to end up being. Exactly, “poppyseed” or “little poppy.” That's what Sarah and Ben have been calling the little one. Sarah talks about where that comes from. You're going to feel tired, hungry, and feel as if your new nickname should be “Buttertits”… but, in the end, you're going to enjoy your journey and experience, and a whole new level of love. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram InnerArcheology.com InnerArcheology.tv (video version) patreon.com/InnerArcheology
Maybe you're familiar with this pattern - where you can see the best in people. Is it a blessing or a curse? Or what if you have a habit of having specific expectations of a person and they continually do not ‘live up to it' and you are constantly disappointed? By seeing the best in someone (their potential), are you putting expectations on them and causing pain for both parties? Even though it comes from a genuinely good place, it can create so much disappointment and discord. We talk about accepting partners and family for who they are versus wanting them to change, how to navigate these situations, and how to evolve and grow with less conflict. It can feel confusing, so we try to make sense of it. We discuss some realizations that we've experienced and how they have affected different relationships. Tune in and gain some insights to help you understand your patterns to alleviate the pain you may be causing yourself and your relationships. Key Points In Episode: Have a mantra - see people as they are. This means dropping your own expectations of them and feeling like they need to live up to them. When someone shows you who they are, pay attention. There is not an ‘ideal' version of that person. The dichotomy of it feeling like it's a ‘good thing' to see the best in someone, but it causes so much pain for both you and that person. To truly love someone, you need to accept them for who they are, versus loving a fantasy character. Look at HOW you are loving a person. Is holding someone accountable for what the person wants for themselves hurtful or helpful? Allow people to evolve in their own time and on their own terms, not yours. We all want people to ‘show up' in specific ways in our lives, but it can create pain and frustration and become a wedge in a relationship. Loving and seeing people for who they really are is freeing. There is less pressure in the relationship and less friction. When is it okay to ask for adjustments in behavior and compromise to help your relationship grow and how is that different? Sarah and Emily discuss how this is different with romantic relationships versus family or friends. What ‘change' are you asking of your partner? Ask yourself if it's realistic or judgemental? Figure out why you are asking this of them. Will it better your relationship or hurt it? In the grand scheme of things, how important is it? When someone is not willing to create change to make you feel safe and good in the relationship and the nuances of relationships that make you feel safe. How to understand your own patterns in relationships and where you are actually causing yourself pain. They chat about the expectations of others treating you like you treat them. Is that reasonable? Do you need to adjust expectations? Are you creating a pedestal for your own behavior? How looking at enneagrams and other people's ‘numbers' can help you communicate more effectively. Not everyone has the same priority as you, and realizing that is helpful. Create awareness and notice when you are judging people through your own belief systems. When to communicate your needs so it doesn't become a bigger problem in the future. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram InnerArcheology.tv
Welcome to another episode of Inner Archeology, and today we'll be talking about an exciting, intriguing, and gravity-defying form of art: Pole Dancing. Yes, pole dancing may have its roots in the backrooms of dimly-lit adult bars, but with more people embracing this curious form of art, pole dancing is now something most women would want to learn. And why not? The combination of seductive poses, steps, spins, and lifts, presents women with a beautiful opportunity to express their femininity. Unfortunately, some people can't seem to get over the negative connotations associated with pole dancing. Yet the truth is that pole dancing is an expressive form of art just like all other types of dance. It's an empowering and liberating expression of strength, creativity, and sensuality. Plus you have an excuse to wear eight inch heels! Tune in to learn how pole dancing stimulates the mind, burns calories, and helps women embrace their femininity through artistic dance movements. Key Points From This Episode: Is pole dancing hard? How hard can it get? How women can push back against societal beliefs around women's bodies through pole dancing. Why we need to acknowledge that pole dancing breaks stereotypes and empowers women. Understanding and embracing the art of pole dancing. How pole dancing broke into the mainstream dance and fitness movement. Sarah explains how mothers can rediscover their sexuality and enjoy their bodies through pole dancing. Why we need to stop the guilt and shame around pole dancing. Pole dancing is not only sexy but also deeply empowering to women in a patriarchal society. Ways pole dancing can improve your life, fitness, and flexibility. Pole dancing is going mainstream; it's time we all acknowledged this fact. Emily shares when pole dancing stops being painful as well as some unbelievably useful tips for beginners. How to get comfortable really quickly once you start pole dancing. Sarah shares a funny story of how her father tried to show off his pole dancing moves only to fall and almost break the pole. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram
Welcome to another episode of Inner Archeology, and today we'll be tackling a topic that might ruffle a few feathers but fits just right with what's currently happening online. We live in a world where hostility has been unleashed. A society where the system wants us divided into Red and Blue, Vaxed and Anti-Vaxed, community members versus law enforcement, Roe V. Wade, Black versus White. Everywhere you turn, there is something that puts one group against the other. But the truth is, hatred can not defeat hate. Which is why today, we'll try to change the story and help people lead with love and halt this strange march toward destruction that we're currently on. Tune in to learn why it's not a good use of your time or energy to argue with people online. Discover how you can stay hopeful in the face of hostility and make a difference by creating less drama, conflict, suffering, anxiety, and pain. Key Points From This Episode: The internet personified: You scream, I scream, we all scream. Examine the primary reasons people don't change their minds during an online argument. Is it really worth the trouble moving states because of taxes or covid mandates? Why Sarah believes people who don't want to play a part in developing a solution are 100% part of the problem. The benefits of avoiding arguments on social media. Sarah explains that success in life involves finding solutions to your problems and then giving back to society as much as possible. What location-independent entrepreneurs can do to impact society positively. Emily shares her beliefs on why we all have a responsibility to society, regardless of income. Becoming a location-independent entrepreneur may not be the best decision if you're trying to influence change. Understand that running away from your problems is a race you'll never win. Ranting and getting into arguments online is not a good use of your time or energy. Tips for managing your fear of being controlled. The value of actively respecting other people's opinions, even when they're contradictory to your own. You don't have to cut people off just because you disagree on trivial matters. Understand that the system wants us divided. They're scared of us united. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Book: The Second Mountain: The Quest for a Moral Life by David Brooks Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram
There is a stigma surrounding asking questions because of fear, embarrassment, or even appearing to be impolite. Today we unpack why asking questions is powerful and can build stronger bonds between people. Tuning in you'll hear our beliefs when it comes to giving advice, why decisions are subjective, and why you don't need to have the answers to peoples' problems as sometimes just asking them questions can help them solve them on their own. We also discuss why empathy and compassion is imperative as well as why you should let go of judgment towards other people because we all have our own struggles. Next, we discuss why question-asking can be magical and is even a love language in itself. Lastly, we explore why curiosity through asking questions is a very attractive quality and makes you fun to be around. Join us on Inner Archeology to learn about the power of asking questions! Key Points From This Episode: Emily's belief in giving advice to people: that we all know what's best for ourselves. Why decisions are subjective and sometimes people need to experience mistakes to learn. Why you don't need to have the answers to peoples' Why asking questions helps people make decisions - they find the solution on their own. The importance of letting go of judgment for other people and cultivating empathy. Acknowledging that we all have different struggles. The importance of asking exactly what people need. The magic of asking questions: tapping into parts of your opinions and beliefs. The culture of storytelling. How questions can help you make sense of confusion. How asking questions can be a love language in itself. Why curiosity is an attractive quality. Asking questions to support someone vs. asking questions for personal gain or interrogation. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram
Traveling can be scary, especially when you're on your own, but it also opens you up to a world of possibilities and the chance to make connections with people from all over. Today on Inner Archeology, we are discussing the importance of traveling and being comfortable spending time alone. We talk about why traveling is for anyone, how it allows you to reflect on the differences between people and connect to people, when the best time to travel is, and the differences in people who have and haven't traveled in their lives. We also discuss how traveling makes you appreciate where you come from and reflect on your life before we delve into the scary world of being alone and why it's so important to embrace it. Finally, we look into how traveling can be incorporated into family life with children and why it is a great education for them. To hear all this and more, tune in! Key Points From This Episode: The importance of traveling - especially on your own. Sarah tells us a story about her solo trip to South Africa. Why traveling alone is for everyone, not just extroverted people. How traveling allows you to see the differences between people but also connects you. The best time to travel in your life. The difference between the viewpoint of people who have traveled and those who haven't. How traveling helps you appreciate where you come from. The importance of spending time on your own. Why traveling helps you reflect on life and ‘home.' The importance of having ‘dates' by yourself to open yourself up to making new connections. How you can educate your children to want to travel and therefore feel competent alone. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram
Have you ever felt like when one bad thing happens it creates a domino effect and suddenly the world is crashing down on you? Well, after a technological issue tampered with our topic for today's episode, we have decided to talk about why we think ‘when it rains it pours.' We delve into whether a series of bad events happens because of coincidence, mercury being in retrograde, or because we become more sensitive to negativity and therefore attract it. Next, we discuss why we are the center of our own universes and share some of our own ‘when it rains it pours' stories. We also discuss how people respond to pain, grief, or unfortunate events and why sometimes laughter really is the best medicine before looking at why we associate negativity with more negativity. We then talk about why experiencing hardship makes joy much more powerful. Finally, we bring up the quiet inner voice that is a guiding light in our lives and discuss how imperative it is to give affirmation to that voice as well as ways to help children learn to trust it. Tune in to Inner Archeology to figure out why when it rains it pours! Key Points From This Episode: Why we think ‘when it rains it pours.' Speculating why bad things happen in a series: coincidence, sensitivity, or something else? How we believe we are the center of our own universe. Why we're more prone to injury when bad things are happening. Sarah shares a ‘when it rains it pours' story from her childhood. Why people laugh when they're dealing with pain or grief. Why Sarah feels like she might have a car accident when she's having a bad day. Why we associate negative memories with certain negative emotions. The importance of having experienced pain and hardship in order to experience joy. The importance of affirming the quiet inner voice within yourself when you're having a difficult time – especially when that inner voice has been devalued in the past. Why allowing children to have agency over their bodies and opinions is imperative to help them trust their inner voice. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram
It can be scary to share your ideas with others because you may feel like you are jinxing something by speaking about it, or you may feel afraid that other people won't appreciate your idea and thus they will take the wind out of your sails. This episode is all about the power of learning to trust yourself enough to share your ideas. From our experience, the people who discourage you probably just don't know enough about what you're wanting to do! On the flip side, we also discuss the importance of being a nurturer of other people's ideas (even if you don't understand them fully), rather than being a dream-squasher (which is often the approach that arises from a place of care, but can be very destructive). When somebody shares something with you, that's an honor; treat it as such! Key Points From This Episode: Praise for the PiperSong Meditation Chair. Exploring Sarah's dream of living on a farm. The power of talking about the things that you want, using examples from our own lives. A brief overview of a beautiful children's book: What Do You Do With An Idea? How to become the kind of person who others feel safe to share their ideas with. Common reasons that people adopt a “dream-squashing” Why you shouldn't take (most) other people's opinions so seriously. What Sarah learned about dealing with criticism when she was growing her online presence. Unpacking the concept of dress rehearsing tragedy. Why masterminds are so beneficial. Looking back at Emily's slime business, as an example of the danger of “dream-squashing.” Advice for developing self-trust. Our thoughts on the best ways to respond when people share their ideas with you. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Inner Archaeology on Patreon Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram PiperSong Meditation Chair What Do You Do With An Idea?
Your greatest strengths and your shadows can be different sides of the same coin. During today's conversation, we go beyond the surface to discuss Sarah's relationship with boundaries, coping mechanisms, making amends, and navigating alcohol use with a partner. Join us as we explore taking responsibility for your role in your own suffering; even if it is as simple as having expectations that someone is unable to meet. We also dive into what addiction thinking looks like and why it is important to distinguish between its voice and your own. Sarah shares how recognizing her own unmet needs has been helpful to her and we acknowledge the many layers often associated with denial that those who don't struggle with addiction will never fully be able to relate to. Join us as we go deep today. Key Points From This Episode: The role of humor in helping us heal and not feel so alone. The mental gymnastics necessary to support forming an addiction. How your greatest strengths and your shadow can be different sides of the same coin. The important step of acknowledging that alcohol use is not serving us. Why you can't help anyone by taking on their pain. Addiction thinking and why it is harmful. One minute thoughts, and the distinction between getting sober for yourself vs others. Distinguishing between the voice of addiction and your own inner voice. Why Sarah can't be around active alcoholics. Boundaries she had to learn to create to keep herself safe in the vulnerable process of recovery. The baselines Sarah has to have in order to maintain her sobriety and health. Why it is so important to have a partner who understands addiction. Coping mechanisms for unmet needs. What she replaced drinking with in order to meet her needs. The important step of identifying the part you play in the pain points of your life. How, sometimes, your role is as simple as having expectations that someone is unable to meet. Why identifying unmet needs and setting boundaries is so important for recovery. The many layers of addressing denial and owning your part without victim blaming. How if you're looking for an excuse you will always find it. Alcohol's role in society, celebration, and struggle. How being in recovery enables you to be part of the solution instead of the problem. Why it is important for a person without an addiction to admit that you will never truly understand. The amends that need to be made both ways between addicts and their loved ones. Emily's revelation about archetypes and the reality you choose. Sarah's surprise when her father called her a responsible member of the family. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram
Between us, there are two big struggles, religious trauma and addiction. These conversations are not easy, but we've created an environment where it's possible to hold space for one another, and today we want to share that with you. Today, Sarah shares her story of addiction and recovery, sharing the intimate details of her journey with the goal to bring hope to struggling listeners. She recalls a low point in her journey when she sought out the stories of successful alcoholics, to find an overwhelming bias towards the stories of celebrities and men. A pivotal figure in her recovery was a female mentor in Bali, and she shares the story of how this person turned her towards the resource she needed to change her life - the twelve steps she had vehemently been avoiding. Join us today to hear a story of hope, connection, and success shared between friends. Key Points From This Episode: Our two respective struggles: religious trauma and addiction. Why it can be more painful when people ignore your pain than when they address it. The misconception that you are reminding people of their pain. Emily's story of addiction in early college. Why interventions absolutely don't work for an addict. How her drinking escalated when she went through her divorce. The story of how she went to rehab and realized she needed support. Where addiction sits: outside of how you usually rationalize and intellectualize. Why you have to let your loved ones struggling with addiction reach their own rock bottom. How her childhood trauma and abuse led to addiction in adulthood. The realization that resentment and anger were at the root of her struggles. How underlying trauma and a disconnect from the world around you leads to addiction. Why it is so essential to take it one day at a time when you are in recovery. The importance of looking beyond yourself to imagine the addict in your life's experience. Owning your shit is an important step in recovery. How believing in a future version of herself helped Sarah to recover. Stories of successful alcoholics and how Sarah found a mentor in Bali who brought her back to AA. Emily's gratitude that Sarah is still here. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram
Most of us know the thrill and excitement that is attached to the right kind of flirty interaction. This erotic life force, or what could be called Eros energy, has such potency, and should be celebrated and explored! Today on the show we are discussing our experiences of erotic energy, and how it goes beyond just wanting to have sex with someone. We talk about how it can translate into our careers, diet, and friendships. Being 'turned on' can take many forms and as soon as you open yourself up to the inspiration that can be centered in the deepest parts of you, we think you are likely to live a life of more excitement and curiosity. This also comes into the idea of playfulness, and why the continual peeling back of conditioned layers that so many of us carry unconsciously, can be so liberating. Other topics discussed in our chat today include the love language of roasting, the peaks and valleys of our libido, and some thoughts on taking responsibility for our own education and journey around erotic energy. To hear it all, make sure to join us for this deep excavation! Key Points From This Episode: Spilling hot coffee, taking ourselves seriously, and the love language of thoughtful burns! How flirting and roasting overlap; understanding this important part of romantic communication. The adult need for play; different ways that we can bring this childlike energy into our lives. Why flirty energy and interactions feel so good to us! How the different energies we contain are united in some ways as our innate life force. The natural rises and falls that our libido will go through during the different seasons of our lives. Experiments with visualization and channeling sexual energy in our bodies! Thinking about the term 'turned on', and how we can expand this idea. Why shame and control are such a big part of how erotic energy has been dealt with. Separating our erotic energy from something purely sexual. Considering better ways to educate each other around these issues. How personal responsibility and independence can help us make progress. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology on Instagram Inner Archeology Email Esther Perel Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram
Welcome to the Inner Archeology Podcast! During today's conversation, we discuss the life-changing power of raising your baselines, through creating new norms in your day-to-day life. We both believe that your life is made by the tiny choices you make every day, compounding the changes you make into one exponential curve towards the life you want. It's so important to show up even when shit is hard! Sometimes things will feel off, and we believe that's the time to get specific about what the main problems are, to empower yourself to make the necessary changes. It's okay to focus on one thing at a time, and we explore how to do that during today's conversation. Some of these concepts came to us through reading The Slight Edge, including the fact that most people make an effort to change until the discomfort has been alleviated, and then fall back into old ways of being. We discuss course correcting, another concept from the book, and talk about dividing up goals into bite-sized pieces to avoid getting overwhelmed. Join us for a motivating conversation full of tools you can implement immediately to begin to enact real change in your life. Thank you for tuning in! Key Points From This Episode: An introduction to today's topic: raising your baselines. What is meant by raising your baselines and creating new norms in your day-to-day. How, when you make these changes to your autopilot, you forget what it was like before. Why your life is made by the tiny choices you make every Why the idea of the Quantum Leap can be really harmful. The Compound Effect: making changes to your life to create an exponential curve. Why it is so important to show up even when shit is hard. Why it is important to distill a general feeling that something is off into the main problems. Why the urge to change everything is a sure sign that you need to get specific about what to change. Focusing on one thing at a time, and committing to having a new standard for yourself. How the Slight Edge describes how most people make an effort and then stop. Drawing solutions to the problem into your conscious mind and separating problems from self-loathing. Course correcting and focusing on solving problems instead of beating yourself up. Why it is so helpful to divide up your goals into bite-sized pieces. How judgments often come from other people's values and not our own. Why, at the end of the day, you just have to figure out what works for you. How guilt and self-loathing are strongly based on what we believe makes a good human. Why tough love is not always the answer when it comes to motivating yourself. Why things get easier when you start to raise your baselines. Operating from a place of defeat and not separating yourself from the emotional piece of making a change. The two hardest things that Sarah has ever done: getting divorced and quitting drinking. The gift that comes out of the Dark Night of the Soul: faith in yourself. Why self-trust is the number one thing Sarah wants to cultivate in her children. An affirmation: my problems are not unique, everyone has survived and thrived what I'm going through, the answers are out there, I just have to be open and willing to receive them. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archaeology on Patreon Atomic Habits on Amazon The Slight Edge on Amazon Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram
Decision-making is probably one of the greatest challenges we face as a species, and everybody's processes are different! In this episode, we share our personal processes, including what works for us and what doesn't, and discuss the importance of getting really clear on when not to make a decision at all. We have some great tips and tricks for those moments when you don't feel vaguely equipped to make any decision whatsoever, or when you feel your intuition is simply not coming to the party. It's important to differentiate your shoulds from your wants, and make your decisions accordingly! Tune in to hear our thoughts, challenges, and tendencies when it comes to decision-making, as well as a few words of wisdom about receiving advice. Key Points From This Episode: The scavenger hunt Sarah participated in over the weekend. The importance of finding ways to play more as adults. Check out our video podcasts! Emily's first time publicly exhibiting her jewelry at an art fair. The tendency to reach out to people to aid in decision-making. Our decision-making processes. Knowing when not to make a decision. How to reassure yourself when you don't feel equipped to make a measured decision. The negotiable nature of things. The importance of normalizing taking the time you need to make a decision. Getting curious about your own decision-making processes. A great decision-making tactic if you're unsure of how you feel about something. Getting clear on whether you're making a decision out of obligation or desire. How to assist others in making a decision. Why it's helpful to hear what you don't want to hear. Why you should never ask for opinions on your baby name list. The value of asking complete strangers for advice. The importance of separating yourself from the advice you receive. Our ability to make decisions intuitively. The importance of cultivating self-trust. The tendency to make decisions for the well-being of others rather than your own. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Patreon Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram
Whether the word manifestation makes you cringe, or you're a strong proponent of the practice, this episode is for you! Manifestation sits at the intersection of mysticism and science, and it can mean different things to different people. In today's episode we're going to dissect the topic of manifestation and what it means to each of us. Join us for a discussion which ranges from the link between our beliefs and our biology, to how our level of self-worth determines the people and experiences that we attract into our lives. We don't always share the same opinion, but what we do wholeheartedly agree on is that our minds are magical, and we hope you feel the same way after listening to our conversation today! Key Points From This Episode: Why we chose manifestation as the topic for today's episode. How we define manifestation. An example of the power of manifestation. The relationship between our beliefs, our biology, and our experiences. Problems that we have with the way some people approach manifestation. The role that manifestation has played in our lives. How to build self worth. The value of being introspective, and how it links to manifestation. Thinking about things as happening for us rather than to The importance of being open to understanding belief systems that differ from your own. What meditation can add to your life. Stories from our lives which highlight the power of your imagination. Dream big, and expect the unexpected! Examples of the different forms that manifestation can take. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram
Today's conversation brought us to some profound revelations about our personal journeys, from the lessons Sarah's Ritalin withdrawal taught her about the pliable nature of our personalities, to what we've found to be the true nature of confidence! We discuss the false assumptions we often have about others who appear to be ultra-confident, and how to reframe confidence as connection in social settings. There is a distinct difference between putting on an act and choosing an energy, and in this episode, we delve into how to choose to exude the energy of confidence and cultivate different parts of your personality. Tune in to hear about our battles with confidence and what we respect most about our personal confidence icons! Key Points From This Episode: Our relationship with confidence over the course of our lives. Sarah's experience of social anxiety and the coping mechanisms she developed. The false assumption that confident people are confident all the time. What Sarah learned from her experience of Ritalin withdrawal as a kid. Emily's identity crisis when she moved away from her sisters and went to college. The conscious practice of choosing your energy in challenging social situations. Tips for managing social anxiety in the moment! Growing your confidence by being selective about who you spend time with. The value of actively being a safe place for others in social settings. A little about our confidence icons! The human need for connection and the value you can bring to others with your confidence. Speculating whether or not shyness is selfish. The important distinction between putting on an act and choosing an energy. Confidence as an energy, rather than an action. The power of your state of mind and state of being! Why not responding or reacting is a flex. What constitutes true self-confidence and where it stems from. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram
Being vulnerable means more than just talking deeply about things; true vulnerability is messy. It's where you don't say the right things and where you sometimes can't even get your thoughts straight. And guess what? Even in that state, where you're operating way below your best, you still deserve to be loved. One of the things that we are so grateful for in our relationship is that we can hold space for each other in a non-judgmental way, no matter what we are going through. And what we want to remind you of through the conversation that we have in this episode, is that you don't have to show up in a certain way to be worthy of love, you are always worthy of love! Key Points From This Episode: Interactions that we have had with people who know us because of this podcast. How the relationship we have with each other differs from relationships we have with other people. Examples of some of the beliefs that have kept us small in relationships. What true vulnerability looks like. Why making decisions when you are in “freak-out mode” is not a good idea. How we hold space for one another. The importance of not diminishing someone else's pain. Why people are fearful of being vulnerable. A pivotal moment where Sarah decided how she was going to live her life going forward. The fine line between being holding space for someone and taking on their emotions as your own. Why it is not your responsibility to manage anybody else's emotions. Examples of white lies that we have told, and why we told them. The power of learning to say “No” without giving a reason. Step one in the journey of cultivating self-love. How relationships can help you understand yourself better. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram
Sometimes, it comes down to those deep layers of what you believe of your self-worth, and the validity of your voice. Don't let conditioned beliefs keep you from what you truly want to do! With that, welcome back to Inner Archeology, where we will be continuing with part two of a mini-series on the topic of beliefs that keep us small. Today, we focus specifically on beliefs that keep us small as women, touching on things like being assertive and how society perceives it differently coming from males and females, we touch on gender constructs and biases, language limitations, body language, trying new things, and the whole idea of judgments and how they can expose areas of personal growth. We end the discussion by talking about the idea of attention-seeking, whether it's inherently wrong, and the blurry line between when it's negative and positive. Join us today for all this, and so much more, as we talk through limiting beliefs that keep us small as women! Enjoy! Key Points From This Episode: We jump into some examples of limiting beliefs that keep us small. Assertiveness: how it's attributed to a more masculine gender and how that can warp assertive women. Gender constructs that keep us small — we should not allow ourselves to be limited by these. We chat about how we can be so conditioned to different gender biases, energies, and expectations. How body language impacts our image; women tend to tuck in and make themselves small. How language limitations are also problematic. Things we think keep us small and the importance of bouncing it off someone — is it true? Why it's important to have self-trust and grace when trying out new energies. We talk about judgments; where they come from, where they're directed, and how they can change. How judgments lead to revealing limiting beliefs inside of you and expose areas of growth! We rehash the judgment of selfies, realizing limiting beliefs of our own. We discuss the question: What is wrong with being attention-seeking? The importance of sharing with people how they've impacted you. Emily shares a story about sharing the meaning of an experience to end the podcast. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: How to Live by Derek Sivers Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram
We are excited to get started with today's episode, so welcome back! It's great that we can call out excitement, or lack thereof, for an episode, because to create content consistently we really believe that where you differentiate from those who do something with the content they create versus those who don't, is that you show up even when you don't feel 100 percent. Today on the show, we talk about beliefs we have that keep us small, especially those from a career standpoint. We need to have beliefs that allow us to go after the things we really want to have! Our big, passion-driven point from this episode is untying your earning potential from your time. We go on to discuss many different aspects of this belief, along with key principles on how to achieve your best-fit work situation. Join us today for all this and so much more on this jam-packed, passion-fueled episode! Key Points From This Episode: Why showing up and doing your work, when you're not 100%, gives your work more meaning. The importance and value of keeping your promises to yourself. Why you should examine the promises you continue failing to keep. Reframing beliefs that aren't serving you and continuing to re-examine your beliefs. Sarah shares why you should price your work based on value and not on the time you spent on it. Beliefs that keep us small and the importance of having beliefs that allow us to go after what we truly want. The question: is 9-5 really what you want and are you getting out of it what you truly need? Why time doesn't equal value; the paradigm shift we are evolving out of. Emily shares an insightful story about the price of having the knowledge and expertise. The need to shift our measuring system from hours spent to quality of life and work produced. Sarah shares the system she uses to prioritize daily tasks and how she manages her time. Why a shortened workday can increase your productivity and product quality. Why Sarah believes companies should shift towards a task-based incentive structure. We parallel the schooling system as a grooming path to 9-5, 40 hour work weeks. Time is your most precious resource: it's something you can't make more of. The importance of recognizing and separating your self-worth from the time invested. Ridding ourselves of the belief that you charge according to what you are worth; you are not your work. Emily shares the shift she went through in changing the belief that was self-limiting her; she got out of her own way. The big point: how are you spending your time? The power behind calling out what you want explicitly, putting out intentions into the universe, and exposure. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram Is It Cake? Official Trailer Inner Archeology - Video Edition
Welcome to another episode of Inner Archeology, and the first that we are releasing with video! Should you wish to watch us rather than listen to us, we hope that seeing our faces helps you connect with us on a deeper level. Today, we're talking about something we have touched on before: consciously choosing our own beliefs. This is an interesting concept, and one that isn't as simple as it sounds. Whether you realize it or not, your reality is built on a system of beliefs that you have selected for yourself. Are you choosing beliefs that allow you to live a better life? Or are you clinging to limiting beliefs that no longer serve you? We dive into all this and more in this episode, from our personal experiences of deconstructing and rebuilding our belief systems to how we believe you can practice compassion for yourself, shift away from fear and judgment, and find equilibrium while adjusting your own belief system. You can hold beliefs that empower you, allow you to achieve your goals, and feel worthy of love; you just have to choose them! Tune in today to learn more! Key Points From This Episode: How our reality is built on a system of beliefs that we choose, consciously or unconsciously. Why Emily says her negative subconscious beliefs felt like monsters hiding in a dark cave. The importance of practicing compassion for yourself. How Emily had to deconstruct and rebuild her belief system quite recently. The process of recognizing what didn't serve her, exploring alternatives, and choosing beliefs that empowered her. Find out why Sarah believes that choosing your beliefs is something you can practice. A reminder that growth is not a linear process; it's not like flipping a switch! Examining your defining beliefs about yourself: are they an authentic expression of you? Why Sarah cautions against using the phrase ‘I am'. How it can be helpful to visualize taking one belief off the shelf and replacing it with another. Leaving space for the unknown by consciously redefining it; the power of ‘I don't know'. Sarah's journey of deconstructing her perceived need to stay informed at all costs. Shifting away from judgment or shame and into what Emily calls the beginner's mind. Why you shouldn't shy away from asking what might be considered ‘obvious' questions. How raising her daughters has forced Emily to reexamine her religious beliefs. Letting go of the fear and anger that often accompanies facing the unknown. The power of choosing compassion over judgment and self-righteousness. Anger as an opportunity to reintroduce equilibrium while adjusting your belief system. Asking yourself: how am I respecting and honoring my state of wellbeing? Why many of us, especially women, need to practice being more assertive. How setting internal boundaries has been helpful for us (more on that in our next episode!) Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: How It Ends Emily's Instagram Post on Choosing Her Beliefs Kevin James Thornton on Instagram Inner Archeology Email Inner Archeology on Patreon Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram Inner Archeology - Video Edition
While our experiences with positive mentors are valuable, so too are the periods of growth that come after encounters with damaging authority figures. In the last episode of the show, we spoke about the mentors who have impacted our beliefs in a helpful way. Today we will be discussing some of the beliefs we have inherited that impacted us negatively and how we were able to recognize that and leave those beliefs by the wayside. We speak about Emily's college teacher who criticized her work in a hurtful way and this leads to a conversation about the value of art in a society as well as the danger of allowing negative experiences to shape us more than positive ones. We also speak about a harmful period of Emily's life in her 20s and how she healed from this and developed strong views about her self-worth as well as boundaries around the level of discomfort she is willing to experience. As many of our listeners know, Sarah's reactions to difficulty often involve fighting back, and she talks about how this tendency shaped her encounters with mentors and teachers who she didn't agree with. For a characteristically authentic conversation about the growth that comes after pain, tune in today. Key Points From This Episode: Emily's experiences of being criticized in an un-constructive way in a college design course. How Emily lost her love for visual art because of how critical her design teacher was. The human tendency to allow negative thoughts to impact our beliefs more than positive ones. The role of having an abundance mentality in making art. Sarah's early feelings of judgment toward people who chose to study art. The role of art in the functioning of communities for giving people beauty and meaning. How important art is despite where it fits into the hierarchy of needs. Perspectives on the judgements we have that don't feel like our own. The role of Sarah's fight response in defending herself from bad teachers. Emily's feelings that she didn't have a strong sense of self as a child and the effects of this. Terrible experiences Emily had in her 20s as an RA for a bible school. The different ways our religious childhoods affected us. A deep distrust Emily developed for authority figures. The recovery Emily has made from this abusive period of her life. Beliefs Emily developed around self-worth, self-sacrifice, and baseline comforts. Where the negativity that Emily associates with discomfort comes from. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: The Artist's Way Inner Archeology on Patreon Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram
Mentorship can have a powerful impact on young people in a variety of personal, academic, and professional situations, which is why we have decided to dedicate this conversation to the incredible influence that some of our mentors have had on us! Mentors provide guidance, advice, feedback, and support, serving variously as role models, teachers, counselors, advisors, sponsors, advocates, and allies. In today's episode, we reflect on the people that have had a profoundly positive impact on our philosophies and approaches to things like hard work, giving back, and building relationships. Tuning in, you'll discover why Emily believes that the best teachers see past behaviors and recognize our strengths and how Sarah developed a deep sense of shared humanity and care through charity work. We also touch on the benefits of physical labor and community, plus so much more, so make sure not to miss this first installment in our two-part discussion about the mentors who impacted our beliefs! Key Points From This Episode: Two people who had a profound impact on Sarah's beliefs as she grew up. What it meant to her that her fifth-grade teacher, Miss Ross, treated her with respect. The sense of control and personal choice that she felt Miss Ross afforded her. Why Emily believes that the best teachers see past behaviors and recognize strengths. How Miss Ross impacted Sarah's beliefs about herself and the world around her. Emily shares the story of how she encouraged and supported a fifth grader that she taught. One of the people that influenced how Emily approaches hard work. Why her relationship with this woman, while positive, was somewhat complicated. Some of the benefits of working with your hands, physical labor, and movement in general. What Bill the youth pastor taught Sarah about giving back to the world. Some of the other valuable lessons that Sarah learned through her youth group. The deep sense of shared humanity and care that she developed through charity work. How profoundly impactful Pastor Bill's focus on developing relationships has been for Sarah. Although our youth group experiences were very different, we both acknowledge the positive impact a community like that can have on kids. Stay tuned for part two of this conversation, where we examine some of the not-so-positive beliefs that were instilled in us! Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Community First! Village Ed Travis on LinkedIn Inner Archeology on Patreon Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram
Experiencing brokenness and rupture in a relationship is possible, but so too is healing and becoming a more fully realized version of yourself. In today's episode, we celebrate Sarah's recent marriage to Ben and take part in a moment of gratitude for the experience of healing and joy that it was. Sarah speaks about how her and Ben's wedding was a symbol for the many realizations that she has had about relationships since they got together. She has realized that everybody is deserving of a healing relationship and second wedding even after a divorce. She speaks about how she got over the anger she felt toward the institution of marriage by realizing that marriage is about intentionality, how Ben has taught her to be mindful of the stories we tell ourselves, and the newfound love she has for the power of ceremony. Emily shares her gratitude that Sarah has had these experiences, talks about what it has been like to be a witness to it all, and shares her experiences of officiating the ceremony. We also get into a bunch of heartfelt memories from the wedding itself, including the song Sarah had written for her and Ben's first dance! Tune in for all this and more today! Key Points From This Episode: A reminder to support our Patreon. The challenges of COVID and why Sarah got married in Mexico. Having a smaller wedding over an extended period of time and the connections that were made. How the wedding was a reflection of Sarah and Ben's relationship. Why the wedding was a healing experience for Sarah. The amazing whale watching experiences that our hosts had. A hilarious story about Emily's kid thinking she would get drunk off of hot tub water. The Jewish perception of weddings as a source of peace and healing. How Sarah got over the feeling that she didn't deserve a beautiful wedding. Why Sarah feels that her relationship with Ben is different from her previous ones. Mirroring one's self-love in a relationship with their partner. How good Ben is at asking Sarah where the stories she tells herself come from. Experiences of the ceremony which Emily was the officiant of. A moment where Sarah and Ben discussed who would say their vows first. The song that Sarah had written for her and Ben's first dance. Getting over the shame and guilt you feel about divorce and a second marriage. Seeing the value in ceremony and Sarah's experiences learning about Jewish tradition. Anger that Sarah had at the institution of marriage and how she got over it. Seeing pain as a catalyst for change and having compassion for past versions of yourself. Links Mentioned in Today's Episode: Sarah and Ben's First Dance Song Camille Thornton on Instagram Inner Archeology Email Sarah Turner on Instagram Emily Pennystone on Instagram