The Messy Spirituality Podcast

This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by the Deadly Faith podcast featuring our own Lola Robbins along with past guest Laci Bean. They do an incredible job with this podcast. Check it out today!How has deconstruction benefitted you?What has it cost you?Do you have any regrets about your deconstruction journey?In this final episode of the show, Kyle, Lola, and Jason discuss the highs and lows of their deconstruction journey along with their hopes for the future.Jason would be truly honored and grateful to have your support for his work through Peace Catalyst International. Connect with the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok).Thanks for listening over these last 5 years! We have loved having you take this journey with us!Stay subscribed to this feed for bonus episodes and interviews coming soon! Connect with the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice!

This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by the book, "Finding Jesus", by Herb Montgomery. Check it out here.In this episode, Jason speaks to author and "This is Not Church" podcaster Jon Turney about the isolation of deconstruction and finding answers when they seem hard to come by. Be sure to check out Jon's new book "RJ the Astronaut" available on February 13, 2024!You can follow Jon's posts on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram.While you're there, please follow our show on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram as well.Each episode of The Messy Spirituality Podcast is expertly engineered by The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you're thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!Connect with the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok).Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice! Connect with the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice!

This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by the Snarky Faith podcast. Stuart Delony does a great job with this podcast. Check it out today!In this episode, Kyle, Lola, and Jason discuss how their faith deconstruction has changed them as human beings Connect with the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice!

This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by Reframing Our Stories. Check them out!This episode is also brought to you Peaceful Warrior Coffee Co where you can order single-origin coffee beans from around the world that are roasted and shipped on the same day. Shipping to USA addresses is always free. Use code "Messy" for 15% off your first order!In this episode, Jason talks with Rob Bell about seeing the world as a temple, humanity's big "Why?", and the art of storytelling.Rob Bell is a bestselling author, international teacher, and highly sought after public speaker. His books include The New York Times bestsellers What Is the Bible?, What We Talk About When We Talk About God, Love Wins, as well as The Zimzum of Love, Velvet Elvis, Sex God, Jesus Wants to Save Christians, and Drops Like Stars.He also happens to be one of the best communicators on the planet.At age 28, Rob founded Mars Hill Bible Church in Michigan, and under his leadership it was one of the fastest-growing churches in America. In 2011, he was profiled in Time Magazine as one of their 100 most influential people. He was featured on Oprah's 2014 Life You Want Tour and will be speaking at venues around the world in 2015 on the Everything is Spiritual Tour. Rob and his wife Kristen have three children and live in Los Angeles.You can pick up a copy of Rob's latest book, Where'd You Park Your Spaceship?. It's simultaneously hilarious, hopeful, and terrifying. It really is an incredible read!Be sure to check out Rob's podcast, website, and Two Days in Ojai events (as discussed in this conversation).Follow the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice! Connect with the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice!

This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by Augmented-a Science Fiction Anthology from Quoir.This episode is also brought to you Peaceful Warrior Coffee Co where you can order single-origin coffee beans from around the world that are roasted and shipped on the same day. Shipping to USA addresses is always free. Use code "Messy" for 15% off your first order!In this episode, Jason talks with author and public theologian Dillon Naber Cruz about his journey from the Marines to pacifism, the war in Israel/Palestine, the Trump effect on Evangelicalism, Christian Nationalism, and a lot more.Check out Dillon's incredible new book, Theological Musings. It's really phenomenal!You can connect with Dillon on Facebook, X, and via his website.Follow the Messy Spirituality crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice! Connect with the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice!

This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by The Wages of Grace by Brandon Dragan. Get your copy today!This episode is also brought to you Peaceful Warrior Coffee Co where you can order single-origin coffee beans from around the world that are roasted and shipped on the same day. Shipping to USA addresses is always free. Use code "Messy" for 15% off your first order!In this episode, Lola, Kyle, and Jason discuss the fascination with martyrs within Evangelicalism and other world religions. Could this idolization of those willing to pay the ultimate price for their faith be unhealthy?Connect with the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice! Connect with the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice!

This episode is brought to you Peaceful Warrior Coffee Co where you can order single-origin coffee beans from around the world that are roasted and shipped on the same day. Shipping to USA addresses is always free. Use code "Messy" for 15% off your first order!It was an absolute honor to spend an hour in conversation with "The Shack" author William Paul Young discussing his spiritual journey, his thoughts on the modern church, why we're terrified of a God who loves without condition, the role of Jesus in our faith, and shining light on some of the lies we believe about God.You can purchase Paul's incredible books "The Shack", "Crossroads", "Eve", and his latest, "Lies We Believe About God" here.Visit Paul's website here.You can follow Paul's work on Facebook and Instagram.If you haven't already, please follow our show on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. We'd love for you to join the conversation over on our private FB group exclusively for listeners of this podcast-Messy Conversations.Each episode of The Messy Spirituality Podcast is expertly engineered by The Podcast Doctor Eric Howell. If you're thinking of starting a podcast you need to connect with Eric!This conversation was originally released on January 1, 2020. Connect with the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice!

This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by The Holy Heretics podcast. Check them out!This episode is also brought to you Peaceful Warrior Coffee Co where you can order single-origin coffee beans from around the world that are roasted and shipped on the same day. Shipping to USA addresses is always free. Use code "Messy" for 15% off your first order!In this episode, Lola talks with author Seth Showalter about finding the courage to embrace our authentic selves.Get your copy of Seth's awesome new book, Finally Free.You can connect with Seth on Facebook and Instagram.Follow the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice! Connect with the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice!

This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by The Holy Heretics podcast. Check them out!This episode is also brought to you Peaceful Warrior Coffee Co where you can order single-origin coffee beans from around the world that are roasted and shipped on the same day. Shipping to USA addresses is always free. Use code "Messy" for 15% off your first order!In this episode, Jason talks with author Jonathan Foster about love, loss, and living inspired.You can support Jonathan's incredible new book, indigo: the color of grief, back backing his Indiegogo campaign here.You can connect with Jonathan on Youtube, TikTok, and via his website.Be sure to check out the incredible work of Love Haiti.Follow the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice! Connect with the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice!

This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by Reframing Our Stories.This episode is also brought to you Peaceful Warrior Coffee Co where you can order single-origin coffee beans from around the world that are roasted and shipped on the same day. Shipping to USA addresses is always free. Use code "Messy" for 15% off your first order!In this episode, Lola, Kyle, and Jason discuss the hidden price of cancel culture to society as a whole.Also, Jason interviews author David Giles who is pioneering a new genre of storytelling.Check out David's great new book, There Once Were Orange Groves.You can connect with David on Facebook and Instagram.Follow the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice! Connect with the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice!

This episode is brough to you by Peaceful Warrior Coffee Co. where you will find freshly roasted gourmet coffee beans from around the world that are roasted and shipped to you on the same day and shipping is always free.  Use code "Messy" for 15% off your first order.In this raw "Messy Conversations" episode, Jason talks to author, podcaster, and former missionary Michael Camp about his spiritual journey, recognizing toxic faith, and what we can do about it. We also talked about how missions ministry can change for the better. Michael's latest book is called Breaking Bad Faith and you can buy your copy wherever books are sold.Checkout Michael's website and podcast, The Spiritual BrewPub, here.You can follow Michael on Facebook, and Instagram.You can follow Jason on Facebook, Threads, and Instagram.You can also follow the show on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.Please be sure to rate and review the show on your podcast app of choice!Thanks for listening. The whole crew will be back for our next episode! Connect with the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice!

This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by the book The Seed of Deconstruction by Nat Turney. Pick up your copy today!This episode is also brought to you Peaceful Warrior Coffee Co where you can order single-origin coffee beans from around the world that are roasted and shipped on the same day. Shipping to USA addresses is always free. Use code "Messy" for 15% off your first order!In this transparent episode, Lola asks Kyle and Jason deeply personal questions about what it was like being an Evangelical pastor and how their lives are different now that they have left professional ministry. Their answers might surprise you! Also, we've got a NSFW Auntie Lola's Bible Story!Follow the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice! Connect with the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice!

This episode is brough to you by Peaceful Warrior Coffee Co. where you will find freshly roasted gourmet coffee beans from around the world that are roasted and shipped to you on the same day and shipping is always free.  Use code "Messy" for 15% off your first order.In this raw "Messy Conversations" episode, Jason talked to author, podcaster, and former pastor Nat Turney about starting a new kind of church, shutting it down, and what he learned in between. Be sure to check out Nat's incredible new book, The Seeds of Deconstruction, which has a forward by the incomparable Brad Jersak. You're definitely going to want to check out Nat's podcast, This is Not Church, as well if you're not already listening to it. There are shout-outs in this episode to Paul Bergmann, Jon Turney, Meg Calvin, Eric Howell, Brad Jersak, and more!You can follow Nat on Facebook, Threads, and Instagram.You can follow Jason on Facebook, Threads, and Instagram.You can also follow the show on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.Please be sure to rate and review the show on your podcast app of choice!Thanks for listening. The whole crew will be back for our next episode! Connect with the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice!

This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by the book Breaking Bad Faith by Michael Camp. Pick up your copy today!This episode is also brought to you Peaceful Warrior Coffee Co where you can order single-origin coffee beans from around the world that are roasted and shipped on the same day. Shipping to USA addresses is always free. Use code "Messy" for 15% off your first order!In this special episode Lola, Kyle, and Jason talk openly about the recent Supreme Court ruling regarding affirmative action, recognizing undetected racism in our own hearts, and doing the hard work to heal and evolve. A lot of tears are shed in this episode. Prepare yourself. It's a heavy one, but one we all might need to consider.You'll find Robert Augustus Masters (referenced in the episode) online here.You can find Dr. Paul Fitzgerald (also referenced in this episode) here.Check out this video on Shadow Work and Childhood Trauma by Patrick Teahan, LICSW here.Follow the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice! Connect with the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice!

This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by Keith Giles' latest book, Sola Deus. If you haven't already, grab your copy today!This episode is also brought to you by Peaceful Warrior Coffee Co where you'll find freshly roasted, single-origin coffee beans from all over the world roasted and shipped on the same day and shipping is always free to USA addresses.In this episode of Messy Spirituality, Lola interviews returning guest artist, Bri Shaw, about what it means to be human in the times we're living in. You're going to love this conversation!You can follow Bri on Instagram.Be sure to follow Lola on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram as well!Join the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group.Want to be a producer of the show and get exclusive access to videos, blog posts, and merch from the hosts of the show? Check out our Patreon page!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a five-star rating and enthusiastic review on your platform of choice! Connect with the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice!

In this episode, the crew takes on the question of "What is God?" and Jason interviews bestselling author, Keith Giles!You can follow Keith on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.You can find his incredible new book, Sola Deus, here.Be sure to check out his Square One course for those who are deconstructing their faith. Messy Spirituality listeners get an 80% discount by using promo code:  MESSY.Follow the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice! Connect with the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice!

In this episode, Lola interviews trans man, husband, and dog dad, Daemian. You can follow him here. Follow the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice! Connect with the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice!

In this episode, Lola interviews ordained priest and writer Shannon Kearns.Shannon TL Kearns is a transgender man who believes in the transformative power of story. As an ordained priest, a playwright, a theologian, and a writer all of his work revolves around making meaning through story. He's the co-founder of QueerTheology.com and his first book, In the Margins: A Transgender Man's Journey with Scripture was published by Eerdmaan's books. He was the founder and Artistic Director of Uprising Theatre Company in Minneapolis. Shannon is a recipient of the Playwrights' Center Jerome Fellowship in 20/21 and he was a Lambda Literary Fellow for 2019 (in playwriting) and 2022 (screenwriting) and a Finnovation Fellow for 2019/2020. He is a sought after speaker on transgender issues and religion as well as a skilled facilitator of a variety of workshops. His work with Brian G. Murphy at QueerTheology.com has reached more than a million people all over the world through videos, articles, and online courses and community. Follow the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by The Wild Olive Podcast. Check them out!This episode is also brought to you by Peaceful Warrior Coffee Company where they perfectly roast their single-origin beans on the same day they ship to you and shipping is always free. Jason recommends trying the Gourmet Breakfast Blend!In this episode, the crew talks about how we can know when it's time to walk away from a toxic religious environment.The crew welcomes Instagrammer, YouTuber, and soon-to-be author, Laci Bean to the show to unpack her spiritual journey.You can follow Laci on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube.Laci will be speaking at Awaken Nashville 2023. Register now before all the tickets are gone!Follow the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by the book, Drugs and Jesus, by Joshua Lawson which is available now!This episode is also brought to you by Peaceful Warrior Coffee Company where they perfectly roast their single-origin beans on the same day they ship to you and shipping is always free. Jason recommends trying the Tanzania!In this episode, the crew talks about how we can live more authentically as our true selves and some common obstacles to being who we really are.Jason interviews author Karen Shock. Karen is the author of the brand-new book, Too Much and Not Enough: Sacred Thoughts Said Out Loud" which releases on April 18, 2023. You definitely do not want to miss this book! It's absolutely incredible! Be sure to be on the look-out for Karen's new podcast "Sacred Thoughts Said Out Loud" coming soon!You can follow Karen on Facebook and Instagram. Follow the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Also, please join the conversation over on our Messy Conversations group on FB!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review and subscribe or follow the show on your platform of choice! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this introductory episode of his brand-new podcast, Jason Elam discusses the need for a wholesale re-evaluation of our parenting methods in light of spiritual deconstruction. You can purchase a copy of the book, Parenting Deconstructed: Navigating Your Spiritual Evolution Without Leaving Your Family Behind, here.Please follow Parenting Deconstructed on Facebook and Instagram.Up next: Chapter One featuring Keith Giles, releasing Friday, April 7th, 2023.Please be sure to follow or subscribe to "Parenting Deconstructed-The Podcast" on your podcasting app of choice. Thank you!This episode was brought to you by Peaceful Warrior Coffee Company where specialty grade, single-origin beans are perfectly roasted and shipped the same day giving you the freshest coffee available. Shipping is always free to U.S. addresses! Use code "Family" for 15% off your first order. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by The Story of Christianity Told As Good News for All by Ric Machuga which is available now!This episode is also brought to you by Peaceful Warrior Coffee Company where they perfectly roast their single-origin beans on the same day they ship to you and shipping is always free.In this episode, the crew talks about substance use disorder, harm reduction, and how people of faith can respond more compassionately. For insight on this, Jason talks to Joshua Lawson who has written two books on the subject. Josh lives with his family in southern Ohio, where he works in a variety of roles to support and empower the most vulnerable members of his community. His experience in Christian ministry spans the gamut from house church facilitator to small group director to lead pastor. After serving in both evangelical and progressive circles for two decades, he stepped away from formal ministry to live and work as a regular human being. Be sure to pick up Josh's books, The Face of Addiction and Drugs and Jesus (releasing April 11). You can follow Josh on Facebook.. Subscribe to Josh's Substack here. Josh is also a co-author of the compilation book, Parenting Deconstructed: Navigating Your Spiritual Evolution Without Leaving Your Family Behind, with also includes chapters from some of your favorite heretics!Follow the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review on your platform of choice! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hey, everyone. Jason here again. I got so much great feedback from the "Jesus the Mystic" message that I did a couple of weeks ago, that I decided to turn it into a series. Here is the second installment, "Are You Ready to Get Unstuck?".Sometimes, the way out of our rut is simpler than we think.What is your next step to getting unstuck? We'd love to hear from you in our Messy Conversations group on Facebook.By the way, the Robcast episode that I refer to in this message can be found here. It's the best argument I've heard against cancel culture and very much worth considering.If you'd prefer, you can watch the video of this episode on our Youtube channel.Recommended Reading:Jesus' Alternative Plan by Richard RohrReturning to Eden by Heather HamiltonReferred to in this episode:The Wisdom of Hobbits by Matthew J. DistefanoParenting Deconstructed Compiled by Jason and Brandi Elam Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This Quoircast podcast episode if brought to you by Keith Giles' latest book, Sola Mysterium: Celebrating the Beautiful Uncertainty of Everything. Order your copy of this groundbreaking book today!In this conversation, Lola, Kyle, and Jason are joined by publisher, author, and podcaster Matthew J. Distefano to discuss finding inspiration among the hobbits of J.R.R. Tolkien's Shire. Matthew J. Distefano is the author of multiple books, including the wildly popular Heretic! and From the Blood of Abel. He is an audio engineer, the producer of the Heretic Happy Hour podcast, cohost of Apostates Anonymous, and is a regular columnist for Patheos. He holds an undergraduate degree in Education from California State University, Chico. Matthew enjoys gardening, bicycling, and European football. He is a huge Tolkien nerd who one day hopes to live in Bag End with his wife and daughter. You can find his work at allsetfree.com.Be sure to check out Matt's brand-new book, The Wisdom of Hobbits, when it releases on March 14, 2023!Join the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group.Don't miss our new compilation book, Parenting Deconstructed: Navigating Your Spiritual Evolution Without Leaving Your Family Behind, with chapters from some of your favorite heretics!Follow the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (because he's way too old for TikTok).Be sure to check out our Youtube channel.Want to be a producer of the show and get exclusive access to videos, blog posts, and merch from the hosts of the show? Check out our Patreon page!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review on your platform of choice! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by the book "What Can't Be Hidden" by Brandon Andess. Order your copy today here.In this new episode, Lola, Kyle, and Jason welcome Quoir Publishers and authors Matthew J. Distefano and Keith Giles for a conversation about censorship and its' high cost for society.Books you are going to want to check out after listening to this episode:The Kingdom of God is Within You by Leo TolstoyAlice's Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass by Lewis CarrollA Spring Harvest by Geoffrey Bache SmithSola Mysterium by Keith GilesThe Wisdom of Hobbits by Matthew J. Distefano (releasing March 14)Returning to Eden: a field guide for the spiritual journey by Heather HamiltonJoin the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group.Don't miss our new compilation book, Parenting Deconstructed: Navigating Your Spiritual Evolution Without Leaving Your Family Behind, with chapters from some of your favorite heretics!Follow the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (because he's way too old for TikTok.Want to be a producer of the show and get exclusive access to videos, blog posts, and merch from the hosts of the show? Check out our Patreon page!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review on your platform of choice! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hey, everyone! Jason here. I was in the car for 10 hours yesterday and had bursts of conversation with God. I took some notes to share with you. This one is a little out there and might stretch some of my evangelical friends. Please stick with me. I think you'll like where we end up.In this talk, I discuss:The need to separate Jesus the first-century teacher from the religious icon passed down to us.The first century understanding of some of Jesus' key teachings.What forgiveness and loving our enemies really look like.The value of surrenderWhat it really means to be "woke".I hope you'll find this talk helpful. If so, please let me know. I'd love to hear from you in the comments at MessySpirituality.org.Suggested reading:How to Be An Anti-Racist by Ibram X KendiReturning to Eden by Heather HamiltonSolo Mysterium by Keith GilesThe Universal Christ by Richard RohrThe Universe Has Your Back by Gabrielle BernsteinParenting Deconstructed compiled by Jason and Brandi ElamQuestion for discussion in the comments:What is your place of surrender?*These are affiliate links and buying these books from these links will send us a small stipend that will help us keep making these videos. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this brand-new episode, Jason speaks with author Heather Hamilton about her spiritual journey, mystical experiences that change our lives, and her brilliant new book, Returning to Eden.Heather Hamilton received her B.A. in Journalism from Georgia State University and spent many years doing video production before discovering her love of writing. After filming and editing stories with people from all over the world—celebrities, orphans, religious leaders, royal family members, political figures, and everyday people—Heather recognized the common threads and themes intertwining all humans across religions, cultures, classes, and demographics. She is passionate about fostering human connection through storytelling, writing, art, and exchanging ideas. She lives in Atlanta with her husband and three children.You can purchase her new book, Returning to Eden, on Kindle, in paperback, or in audiobook format here.Be sure to visit Heather's website and connect with Heather on Facebook and Instagram.Join the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group.Want to be a producer of the show and get exclusive access to videos, blog posts, and merch from the hosts of the show? Check out our Patreon page!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review on your platform of choice! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by the This is Not Church podcast featuring our friends Jon and Nat Turney. If you're not listening to them already you should definitely check them out!In this episode of Messy Spirituality, Jason interviews author and former pastor Kevin Sweeney about his spiritual journey and the hidden power of letting go. You're going to love this conversation!Be sure to check out Kevin's books The Making of a Mystic and The Joy of Letting Go.Kevin Sweeney was co-founder and lead pastor of Imagine Church—an urban church in Honolulu that is welcoming of all people, sees imagination as the key to the future, chooses authenticity over performance, substance over hype, and quality over quantity. He is the host of podcast “The Church Needs Therapy” and lives In Honolulu with his wife and co-founder of Imagine, Christine, and their two kids, True and Mikayla.You can follow Kevin on Facebook and Instagram.Be sure to follow Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter as well. Join the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group and follow the show on Facebook and Twitter!Want to be a producer of the show and get exclusive access to videos, blog posts, and merch from the hosts of the show? Check out our Patreon page!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a five-star rating and enthusiastic review on your platform of choice! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This Quoircast podcast episode is brought to you by the Heretic Happy Hour podcast. If you're not listening to the granddaddy of all destruction podcasts you definitely ought to check them out!In this episode of Messy Spirituality, Lola interviews Canadian born artist, Bri Shaw, about her life and work. You're going to love this conversation!You can follow Bri on Instagram and follow her art page here. You can get one of Bri's prints for free by following Birmingham Free Art.Be sure to follow Lola on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram as well!Join the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group.Want to be a producer of the show and get exclusive access to videos, blog posts, and merch from the hosts of the show? Check out our Patreon page!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a five-star rating and enthusiastic review on your platform of choice! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This episode is sponsored by the incredible book Divine Echoes by Dr. Mark Gregory Harris. If you haven't already read this book you're missing out!In today's episode, Jason speaks with Brent Schebler of Ink Drinker Editing and Literary Services about his spiritual journey and some of his favorite reads of 2022.Books mentioned in this episode:The Shack by William Paul YoungParenting Deconstructed: Navigating Your Spiritual Evolution Without Leaving Your Family BehindThe Hidden Lives of TreesKissing With Eyes Wide OpenSolo MysteriumBlue Like JazzI'm Glad My Mom DiedGreen LightsNightThe Black KlansmanThe Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon11-22-63Under the DomeNeverVerityNight MonstersThe WishJoin the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group.Want to be a producer of the show and get exclusive access to videos, blog posts, and merch from the hosts of the show? Check out our Patreon page!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review on your platform of choice! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This QuoirCast podcast episode is brought to you by our friends at the Heretic Happy Hour podcast! Check them out wherever you listen to podcasts!On this episode, Jason interviews returning guest Brad Jersak to discuss reframing the conversation about deconstruction and its impact.Brad Jersak is an author and teacher based in Abbotsford, BC. He currently serves as the Dean of Theology & Culture at St. Stephen's University (SSU.ca/graduate) in New Brunswick and teaches peace studies courses with IRPJ.org and is a regular speaker with the Open Table Conference crew.He writes regularly for the Clarion Journal and CWR magazine.You can order Brad's new book, Out of the Embers, here and follow him on FacebookJoin the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group.Don't miss our new compilation book, Parenting Deconstructed: Navigating Your Spiritual Evolution Without Leaving Your Family Behind, with chapters from some of your favorite heretics!Follow the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter Want to be a producer of the show and get exclusive access to videos, blog posts, and merch from the hosts of the show? Check out our Patreon page!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review on your platform of choice! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This QuoirCast podcast episode is brought to you by the Ideas Digest podcast from two Aussie blokes-Konrad and Matt. Check them out!On this episode Lola, Kyle, and Jason discuss our current understandings/beliefs about angels, demons, and the spirit realm. Auntie Lola also has an all new WTF Bible Story that you're gonna love.During our interview segment, Jason interviews author Eric English who recently released a new book entitled, "UNnlightenment: A Theological Foundation for Deconstructing and Reconstructing the Christian Faith".Eric Scot English writes the UNenlightenment column for Patheos Progressive Christian. Eric also hosts a podcast called UNenlightenment where he interviews leading thinkers in the Christian faith about various topics associated with progressive Christianity and evangelicalism. Eric holds advanced degrees in philosophy and theology. Eric lives in the Grand Rapids, MI area with his wife Cynthia, and their three children.You can order Eric's new book here and follow him on FacebookJoin the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group.Don't miss our new compilation book, Parenting Deconstructed: Navigating Your Spiritual Evolution Without Leaving Your Family Behind, with chapters from some of your favorite heretics!Follow the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (because he's way too old for TikTok.Want to be a producer of the show and get exclusive access to videos, blog posts, and merch from the hosts of the show? Check out our Patreon page!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review on your platform of choice! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This QuoirCast podcast episode is brought to you by the Ideas Digest podcast from two Aussie blokes-Konrad and Matt. Check them out!On this episode Lola, Kyle, and Jason discuss what makes each of them grateful. Auntie Lola also has an all new WTF Bible Story that will make all the ladies very grateful.During our interview segment, Jason interviews author Daniel Henderson who recently released "Confessions of a Recovering Evangelical".With a 40 year career in education, Daniel Henderson has the grounding of being a life-long mid-westerner, and having traveled extensively. His teaching career in the field of history and religion has given many of his students inspiration and motivation to pursue their own careers in these fields. Dan has traveled to Europe and Central America and all over the United States. He has a passion for history and historic sites. He is currently publishing a personal story of his own faith journey called, "Confessions of a Recovering Evangelical" available today from Quoir.You can order Dan's new book here and follow him on Facebook.Join the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group.Don't miss our new compilation book, Parenting Deconstructed: Navigating Your Spiritual Evolution Without Leaving Your Family Behind, with chapters from some of your favorite heretics!Follow the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.Want to be a producer of the show and get exclusive access to videos, blog posts, and merch from the hosts of the show? Check out our Patreon page!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review on your platform of choice! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This QuoirCast podcast episode is brought to you by This is Not Church podcast featuring our good friends Jon and Nat Turney. Check them out!On this episode Lola, Kyle, and Jason discuss what each of them think might happen after we die. Auntie Lola also has a very spooky Halloween edition of WTF Bible Stories.During our interview segment, Jason interviews poet Darrell Epp about life, art, and art's impact on the world.Darrell Epp is a poet, freelance journalist, and playwright whose work has appeared widely in magazines around the world, including Maisonneuve, Poetry Nottingham, Sub-Terrain, and The Saranac Review. Born in Toronto, he currently resides in Hamilton, Ontario where he earns a living locking up trains for CN Rail.You can order Darrell's new book here and find him on Facebook and Twitter.Join the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group.Follow the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.Want to be a producer of the show and get exclusive access to videos, blog posts, and merch from the hosts of the show? Check out our Patreon page!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review on your platform of choice! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This QuoirCast podcast episode is brought to you by This is Not Church podcast featuring our good friends Jon and Nat Turney. They drop new episodes every Monday and their latest episode features none other than our own Lola Robbins!This brand new episode features:A big announcement worthy of celebration!A special Halloween edition of "Auntie Lola's WTF Bible Stories"An interview with recording artist and all-around badass Hailey Dixon!A conversation about what happens to those who commit suicide.Hailey Dixon is a writer, songstress and a woman with a bone to pick with the American evangelical church. Growing up queer and with a severe mental disability, Hailey often felt rejected not only by the god she grew up with, but by the church as a whole. She escaped a cult only to be brought down by what others assumed were good, healthy churches. Now Hailey lives to tell the tale by writing songs that feel like worship music with just a hint of sacrilege.You can listen to Hailey's music here and follow her on Facebook and Instagram.If you're struggling to hang on, please call or text 988 from any cell phone to talk to a professional counselor who can help.Join the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group.Follow the crew:You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.Want to be a producer of the show and get exclusive access to videos, blog posts, and merch from the hosts of the show? Check out our Patreon page!Thanks for listening! Please leave us a rating or review on your platform of choice! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This QuoirCast podcast episode is brought to you by This is Not Church podcast featuring our good friends Jon and Nat Turney. They drop new episodes every Monday so check them out!In this new episode, Lola, Kyle, and Jason discuss ballot initiatives in several states that seek to end forced labor in U.S. prisons and lingering racial injustice in the United States.Join the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group.Please take a minute to like our Facebook page and follow/friend all of our hosts on social media!You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (because he's way too old for TikTok).Please rate and review this show on your podcast platform of choice. That really does help us find our way to new ears!Want to be a producer of the show and get exclusive access to videos, blog posts, and merch from the hosts of the show? Check out our Patreon page!We'll be back with a new episode every two weeks! Thanks for listening to the podcast. We love having you with us on this journey! Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this conversation, Lola, Kyle, and Jason discuss the news regarding Matt Chandler, lead pastor of The Village Church in Flower Mound, TX who recently stepped down due to what he referred to as "non-sexual, non-romantic, unwise course joking" with a female via direct messages. We look at how the situation was handled and the questions raised by the church's response. Join the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group.Please take a minute to like our Facebook page and follow/friend all of our hosts on social media!You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (because he's way too old for TikTok).Please rate and review this show on your podcast platform of choice. That really does help us find our way to new ears!Want to be a producer of the show and get exclusive access to videos, blog posts, and merch from the hosts of the show? Check out our Patreon page!We'll be back with a new episode every two weeks! Thanks for listening to the podcast. We love having you with us on this journey! Get bonus content on Patreon Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this new episode, Lola, Kyle and Jason discuss one of the most disgusting stories in the Bible and take a look at rampant financial exploitation and manipulation in the church.Join the conversation on our Messy Conversations Facebook group.Please take a minute to like our Facebook page and follow/friend all of our hosts on social media!You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (because he's way too old for TikTok).Please rate and review this show on your podcast platform of choice. That really does help us find our way to new ears!Want to be a producer of the show and get exclusive access to videos, blog posts, and merch from the hosts of the show? Check out our Patreon page!We'll be back with a new episode every two weeks! Thanks for listening to the podcast. We love having you with us on this journey! Get bonus content on Patreon Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this new episode, Lola, Kyle and Jason discuss performance art at CPAC, the injustice of mass incarceration, another twisted Bible story, and the negative impact of religions based on fear.Take a minute to like our Facebook page and follow/friend all of our hosts on social media!You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (because he's way too old for TikTok).Please rate and review this show on your podcast platform of choice. That really does help us find our way to new ears!Want to be a producer of the show and get exclusive access to videos, blog posts, and merch from the hosts of the show? Check out our Patreon page!We'll be back with a new episode every two weeks! Thanks for listening to the podcast. We love having you with us on this journey! Get bonus content on Patreon Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this new uncut conversation, Jason Elam discusses finding life and community outside of church with authors Laura and Karl Forehand.Karl Forehand is the award-winning author of Apparent Faith, The Tea Shop, Being, and The Hotel. Laura Forehand is an educator specializing in whole brain teaching. Laura and Karl are the authors of the new book, Out into the Desert: Thriving Outside Organized Religion which is available now in paperback and e-book format. Karl and Laura host The Desert Sanctuary podcast. Karl is a columnist for Patheos. They have three children and three grandchildren that they adore. Here's Jason's quick review of Out Into the Desert:"Many of us are on a spiritual journey with no known destination. We have tried mainstream religion and have found it to be lacking and often corrupt. So we walked away from it all with no particular place to go. This journey into the unknown is a lonely quest and the isolation can sometimes feel overwhelming. Karl and Laura Forehand have been there and share their wealth of transparency and hard-fought wisdom with us in the pages of "Out Into the Desert". Laura and Karl are on this unfamiliar path right beside us and don't pretend to have all the answers. Their only agenda is to help us know that we're not alone and that this desert isn't as barren as it seems." Get bonus content on Patreon Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this Messy Conversations interview, Lola speaks with Andrew Pledger about life, God, and his unconventional spiritual journey.Andrew Pledger is a religious trauma survivor who escaped fundamentalist Christianity (the IFB cult). He brings awareness to spiritual and religious abuse. Andrew's podcast Speaking Up with Andrew Pledger offers a platform for people to share their stories of surviving toxic religion. Being a part of the LGBTQ+ community, and experiencing religious trauma has inspired Andrew to pursue psychology to help survivors.To connect with Andrew, please check out his website.Please rate and review this show on your podcast platform of choice. That really does help us find our way to new ears!Want to be a producer of the show and get exclusive access to videos, blog posts, and merch from the hosts of the show? Check out our Patreon page!We'll be back with a new episode every two weeks! Thanks for listening to the podcast. We love having you with us on this journey! Get bonus content on Patreon Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode Lola, Kyle, and Jason discuss the question "Could Church Be Harming Our Kids?", the recent video of Uvalde police officers, and rethinking whether or not David was really a "man after God's own heart".Take a minute to like our Facebook page and follow/friend all of our hosts on social media!You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter (because he's way too old for TikTok).Please rate and review this show on your podcast platform of choice. That really does help us find our way to new ears!Want to be a producer of the show and get exclusive access to videos, blog posts, and merch from the hosts of the show? Check out our Patreon page!We'll be back with a new episode every two weeks! Thanks for listening to the podcast. We love having you with us on this journey! Get bonus content on Patreon Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to Season 4 of the show! We're excited to welcome Kyle Butler and Lola Robbins as our new co-hosts and we're launching a new format that we hope you will love!In this first episode of the new era, we discuss new beginnings, the story of Esther in the Bible, the US Supreme Court decision regarding Roe vs. Wade, and learning to hear the language of God/The Universe/love to you. It's a great conversation and we'd love to hear what you think over on the Messy Conversations group on Facebook.While you're there, take a minute to like our page and follow/friend all of our hosts!You can find Lola on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTokYou can find Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok.You can find Jason on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.Please rate and review this show on your podcast platform of choice. That really does help us find our way to new ears!Want to be a producer of the show and get exclusive access to videos, blog posts, and merch from the hosts of the show? Check out our Patreon page!We'll be back with a new episode every two weeks! Thanks for listening to the podcast. We love having you with us on this journey! Get bonus content on Patreon Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this brand new episode, Keith Giles signals the biggest shift in his thinking of his writing career. Keith is going "full heretic" by embracing the mystery of God and rejecting religious certainty much to the dismay of a few of his former supporters.Keith's latest book is Sola Mysterium: Celebrating the Beautiful Uncertainty of Everything (Quior, June 28, 2022). You can order it here today.Keith Giles is a former pastor who left the pulpit to follow Jesus and start a house church where no one takes a salary and 100 percent of all offerings are given to help the poor in the community. He has been a published writer since 1989.He is the author of several books, including: "Jesus Unbound: Liberating the Word of God from the Bible" and "Jesus Untangled: Crucifying Our Politics To Pledge Allegiance To The Lamb."Keith is a co-host of the Heretic Happy Hour Podcast which has featured interviews with Bart Ehrman, John Fugelsang, Richard Rohr, Brad Jersak, Greg Boyd, and many others. He is also a co-host of the Apostates Anonymous podcast along with Matthew J. Distefano.Keith teaches several online courses including "Square 1: From Deconstruction to Reconstruction" and other courses based on his many books.We'd love for you to support Keith's important work and get access to patron only content by becoming a Keith Giles patron here.You can follow him online and find out more about his books at http://www.KeithGiles.com. Get bonus content on Patreon Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this new episode, co-host Ashley Robbins takes over the show for her first solo interview! She has a conversation with Erin Camille who grew up in a pastor's home and saw the worst of ministry life up close.You can connect with Erin on Facebook.Please subscribe, rate, and review this podcast on your platform of choice.The Messy Spirituality Podcast is Engineered by The Podcast Doctor, Eric Howell!Thanks for listening! Get bonus content on Patreon Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, I speak with one of my favorite authors, speakers, and thinkers-Brian McLaren.Brian D. McLaren is an author, speaker, activist, and public theologian. A former college English teacher and pastor, he is a passionate advocate for “a new kind of Christianity” – just, generous, and working with people of all faiths for the common good. He is a faculty member of  The Living School and podcaster with Learning How to See, which are part of the Center for Action and Contemplation. He is also an Auburn Senior Fellow and is a co-host of Southern Lights. His newest book is  Faith After Doubt (January 2021), and his next release, Do I Stay Christian? (May 2022) can be preordered now. His recent projects include an illustrated children's book (for all ages) called Cory and the Seventh Story and The Galapagos Islands: A Spiritual Journey.I talked to Brian about the process of decided to stay Christian...or not. We also talked about Brian's role in my own spiritual journey, his involvement in the Center for Action and Contemplation, and got a quick update on Father Richard Rohr.Be sure to check out Brian's website here.You can find Brian on Facebook and Twitter as well. Thanks so much for listening! We'd really appreciate your positive ratings and reviews on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen. You can sponsor the next episode of our show by donating via Cash App ($MessySpirituality) or Venmo (@messyspirituality).This episode was mixed and engineered by Eric "The Podcast Doctor" Howell.  Get bonus content on Patreon Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, Co-host, Ashley Robbins, and I talk to Macey Berry about her experience growing up in purity culture and the devastating impact it had on her life.You can connect with Macey on Facebook.Macey mentions the Your Favorite Heretics Facebook group during this conversation. This group was started by our friends, Derek and Rachel Myers. You can find them here.You can connect with our co-host for this episode, Ashley Robbins, on Facebook here. Get bonus content on Patreon Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, I'm joined by my friend James Early. James is a Bible teacher, speaker, blogger, and podcaster. He grew up in Amarillo, TX, and received his BA from Vanderbilt University. He gives talks and conducts workshops on the Bible covering a wide range of topics to churches and groups as well as online. Since October 2008, James has conducted weekly Bible study workshops at the Federal Correctional Institution in Danbury, CT. He started The Bible Speaks to You Podcast in October 2019, now with listeners in 130 countries. His focus is on getting back to the original Christianity of Jesus. As the “Jesus Mindset Coach,” he helps people embrace the mindset of Jesus and rediscover their rights and ability to think, act, pray, love, and heal like Jesus. James lives in Bethel, CT with his wife. They have three grown children.James has set up a special web page for Messy Spirituality listeners. You can find his podcast, social media, and the free resources he mentioned in the episode here.If you'd like to help us produce future episodes of The Messy Spirituality Podcast, you can contribute via Venmo and Cash App at @messyspirituality.Thanks so much for listening!Jason Elam Get bonus content on Patreon Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

My good friend, Karl Forehand, had a stroke in January 2022. A month later, he and his wife, Laura, joined me for a conversation about the stroke, Karl's recovery, ongoing therapy, hopes for the future, and Karl's first ever fiction book which is releasing March 22, 2022.If you are able, please help Karl and Laura as they navigate this difficult season in which Karl is unable to work by contributing to the online fundraiser we've started for them here.You can connect with Karl and Laura via their website.Karl recently wrote about his stroke on Patheos.You can order Karl's brand new book, The Hotel, here-PLEASE WAIT TO PURCHASE IT ON MARCH 22, 2022. Thank you! Get bonus content on Patreon Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

I'm joined on this episode by two of our favorite apostates, Matthew J. Distefano and Keith Giles. We discuss the recent criticism of deconstruction by many within evangelicalism. Are any of their criticisms fair? How should we respond when we feel unfairly attacked?Matthew J. Distefano is an author, podcaster, and Patheos columnist. His latest book is entitled "The Genesis of Violence". Keith Giles is an author, speaker, podcaster, and Patheos columnist. His latest book is entitled "Jesus Unarmed: How the Prince of Peace Disarms Our Violence".Together, Matthew and Keith co-host the Apostates Anonymous podcast. They are also co-hosts of The Heretic Happy Hour podcast. Keith also hosts the Second Cup with Keith podcast.You can find Matthew's columns on Patheos here.You can find Keith's columns on Patheos here.Check out Keith's upcoming Awaken 2022 event in Nashville, TN here.If you'd like to help us produce future episodes of the podcast, you can contribute via Venmo and Cash App at @messyspirituality.Thanks so much for listening! Get bonus content on Patreon Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode co-hosted by Ashley Robbins, we discuss the hurt caused by toxic church institutions and a possible way forward taking the best of church community but leaving behind the many destructive aspects that have wounded so many.Ashley Robbins is an ex evangelical trying her best to honor real gospel. She is a purity culture insurgent. She describes herself as a loud, loving, and shaky voice.You can connect with Ashley on Facebook and Instagram.This conversation continues over on the Messy Conversations group on Facebook. It's a safe space to wrestle with questions of faith and doubt in a judgement free zone. Join us!Please rate and review the show on your podcast platform of choice.You can help us produce new episodes of the show by sponsoring an episode ($50) via Cash App ($messyspirituality) or Venmo (@messyspirituality). Thanks so much for your support!Thanks for listening! Get bonus content on Patreon Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.