Sacred Conversations on Work

Sacred Conversations on Work Episode 27 In Episode 27, Carol continues her conversation with Sara Martin, COO and Director of Strategic Initiatives at the Wellness Council of America, also known as WELCOA. Sara’s purpose is helping people fulfill their highest potential in work and life through corporate health promotion. In Part 2 of this two-part interview, you’ll learn how to get started with planning and implementing a wellness program, one company’s example of building wellness into the organization’s DNA, and what’s required to be the employer of choice with millennials. You’ll also hear Sara’s best and worst work experiences, and simple yet profound ways to lead authentically. Sara has launched award winning wellness programs, created new wellness products, and engineered work environments to create cultures of health across multiple industries.  She has been a session and keynote speaker at a variety of community and national events including National Health Enhancement Research Organization (HERO) Conference, the Art and Science of Health Promotion Conference, and the National WELCOA Training Summit.  She sits on the Johns Hopkins Mental Health in the Workplace Advisory Council and the CDC Workplace Health Resource Center Steering Committee.  Sara’s background includes corporate training, organizational development, and health promotion management. Before joining WELCOA, Sara managed the award-winning Well@Work employee wellness program for the 5,000 employees of BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee and served as a Health Management Consultant for BlueCross. Sara received her BA in Psychology from the University of Alabama in Huntsville and her M.S. in Industrial/Organizational Psychology from the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga.    For more info about Sara’s work, go to welcoa.org. To contact Sara directly, please email her at srauch@welcoa.org or find her on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/sararauch. ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, emotionallyfitleaders.com GUEST: Sara Martin PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

  In Episode 27, Carol continues her conversation with Sara Martin, COO and Director of Strategic Initiatives at the Wellness Council of America, also known as WELCOA. Sara’s purpose is helping people fulfill their highest potential in work and life through corporate health promotion. In Part 2 of this two-part interview, you’ll learn how to get started with planning and implementing a wellness program, one company’s example of building wellness into the organization’s DNA, and what’s required to be the employer of choice with millennials. You’ll also hear Sara’s best and worst work experiences, and simple yet profound ways to lead authentically. Sara has launched award winning wellness programs, created new wellness products, and engineered work environments to create cultures of health across multiple industries.  She has been a session and keynote speaker at a variety of community and national events including National Health Enhancement Research Organization (HERO) Conference, the Art and Science of Health Promotion Conference, and the National WELCOA Training Summit.  She sits on the Johns Hopkins Mental Health in the Workplace Advisory Council and the CDC Workplace Health Resource Center Steering Committee.  Sara’s background includes corporate training, organizational development, and health promotion management. Before joining WELCOA, Sara managed the award-winning Well@Work employee wellness program for the 5,000 employees of BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee and served as a Health Management Consultant for BlueCross. Sara received her BA in Psychology from the University of Alabama in Huntsville and her M.S. in Industrial/Organizational Psychology from the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga.    For more info about Sara’s work, go to welcoa.org. To contact Sara directly, please email her at srauch@welcoa.org or find her on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/sararauch. ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, emotionallyfitleaders.com GUEST: Sara Martin PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Sacred Conversation On Work Episode 26 In Episode 26, Carol talks with Sara Martin, COO and Director of Strategic Initiatives at the Wellness Council of America, also known as WELCOA. Sara’s purpose is helping people fulfill their highest potential in work and life through corporate health promotion. In Part 1 of this two-part interview, you’ll hear Sara’s personal story and how it led her to conclude that traditional wellness at work programs are missing the mark. The things we don’t want to talk about are the things that really impact wellness. More than lowering medical costs and addressing physical needs, Sara outlines the elements of what a real wellness program should cover, to help employees flourish on many levels.  Sara connects these elements with tangible business metrics. You’ll also hear about the role of emotions in the workplace, why work is sacred, and the data on wellness and business outcomes. Sara has launched award winning wellness programs, created new wellness products, and engineered work environments to create cultures of health across multiple industries.  She has been a session and keynote speaker at a variety of community and national events including National Health Enhancement Research Organization (HERO) Conference, the Art and Science of Health Promotion Conference, and the National WELCOA Training Summit.  She sits on the Johns Hopkins Mental Health in the Workplace Advisory Council and the CDC Workplace Health Resource Center Steering Committee.  Sara’s background includes corporate training, organizational development, and health promotion management. Before joining WELCOA, Sara managed the award-winning Well@Work employee wellness program for the 5,000 employees of BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee and served as a Health Management Consultant for BlueCross. Sara received her BA in Psychology from the University of Alabama in Huntsville and her M.S. in Industrial/Organizational Psychology from the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga.  For more info about Sara’s work, go to welcoa.org. To contact Sara directly, please email her at srauch@welcoa.org or find her on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/sararauch. ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, emotionallyfitleaders.com GUEST: Sara Martin PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

  In Episode 26, Carol talks with Sara Martin, COO and Director of Strategic Initiatives at the Wellness Council of America, also known as WELCOA. Sara’s purpose is helping people fulfill their highest potential in work and life through corporate health promotion. In Part 1 of this two-part interview, you’ll hear Sara’s personal story and how it led her to conclude that traditional wellness at work programs are missing the mark. The things we don’t want to talk about are the things that really impact wellness. More than lowering medical costs and addressing physical needs, Sara outlines the elements of what a real wellness program should cover, to help employees flourish on many levels.  Sara connects these elements with tangible business metrics. You’ll also hear about the role of emotions in the workplace, why work is sacred, and the data on wellness and business outcomes. Sara has launched award winning wellness programs, created new wellness products, and engineered work environments to create cultures of health across multiple industries.  She has been a session and keynote speaker at a variety of community and national events including National Health Enhancement Research Organization (HERO) Conference, the Art and Science of Health Promotion Conference, and the National WELCOA Training Summit.  She sits on the Johns Hopkins Mental Health in the Workplace Advisory Council and the CDC Workplace Health Resource Center Steering Committee.  Sara’s background includes corporate training, organizational development, and health promotion management. Before joining WELCOA, Sara managed the award-winning Well@Work employee wellness program for the 5,000 employees of BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee and served as a Health Management Consultant for BlueCross. Sara received her BA in Psychology from the University of Alabama in Huntsville and her M.S. in Industrial/Organizational Psychology from the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga.  For more info about Sara’s work, go to welcoa.org. To contact Sara directly, please email her at srauch@welcoa.org or find her on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/sararauch. ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, emotionallyfitleaders.com GUEST: Sara Martin PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Sacred Conversation On Work Episode 25 This conversation is jam-packed with great insights and advice from one of the top business thinkers in the world. In Episode 25, Carol talks with Daniel Pink, author of several provocative, bestselling books about business, work, and behavior, including When: The Scientific Secrets of Perfect Timing, A Whole New Mind, Drive, and To Sell is Human.  For the last six years, London-based Thinkers 50 named Daniel Pink, alongside Michael Porter and Clayton Christensen, as one of the top 15 business thinkers in the world. In this interview, Dan reflects on his early analysis of where work was headed nearly 20 years ago (with his first book on the rise of freelancers). He points out the unseen forces that have shaped the work environment that we have today—one where social media fuels unhealthy comparison, where top performers have more options outside of traditional forms of work, and where retirement doesn’t come at 65 years of age. This leads to a discussion of how workplaces need to adapt.   You’ll also hear about the importance of acknowledging emotions in the workplace, how the younger generation is finding community in new places, one of the biggest mistakes Millennials make in pursuing their first job, Dan’s best and worst work experiences, and what makes work sacred.  We end the conversation with Dan’s top tip for having a meaningful and successful career. Dan Pink’s books have won multiple awards, have been translated into 39 languages, and have sold three million copies worldwide.  He has been a contributing editor at Fast Company and Wired. His articles and essays have also appeared in The New York Times, Harvard Business Review, The New Republic, and Slate. In 2007, he was a Japan Society Media fellow in Tokyo, where he studied the country’s massive comic industry. Before venturing out on his own 20 years ago, Dan worked in several positions in politics and government, including serving from 1995 to 1997 as chief speechwriter to Vice President Al Gore. He received a BA from Northwestern University and a JD from Yale Law School. Pink and his wife live in Washington, DC. They have three children — two college students and a high school student.   For more information on Dan Pink please visit his website: www.danpink.com   ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, emotionallyfitleaders.com GUEST: Daniel Pink PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

  This conversation is jam-packed with great insights and advice from one of the top business thinkers in the world. In Episode 25, Carol talks with Daniel Pink, author of several provocative, bestselling books about business, work, and behavior, including When: The Scientific Secrets of Perfect Timing, A Whole New Mind, Drive, and To Sell is Human.  For the last six years, London-based Thinkers 50 named Daniel Pink, alongside Michael Porter and Clayton Christensen, as one of the top 15 business thinkers in the world. In this interview, Dan reflects on his early analysis of where work was headed nearly 20 years ago (with his first book on the rise of freelancers). He points out the unseen forces that have shaped the work environment that we have today—one where social media fuels unhealthy comparison, where top performers have more options outside of traditional forms of work, and where retirement doesn’t come at 65 years of age. This leads to a discussion of how workplaces need to adapt.   You’ll also hear about the importance of acknowledging emotions in the workplace, how the younger generation is finding community in new places, one of the biggest mistakes Millennials make in pursuing their first job, Dan’s best and worst work experiences, and what makes work sacred.  We end the conversation with Dan’s top tip for having a meaningful and successful career. Dan Pink’s books have won multiple awards, have been translated into 39 languages, and have sold three million copies worldwide.  He has been a contributing editor at Fast Company and Wired. His articles and essays have also appeared in The New York Times, Harvard Business Review, The New Republic, and Slate. In 2007, he was a Japan Society Media fellow in Tokyo, where he studied the country’s massive comic industry. Before venturing out on his own 20 years ago, Dan worked in several positions in politics and government, including serving from 1995 to 1997 as chief speechwriter to Vice President Al Gore. He received a BA from Northwestern University and a JD from Yale Law School. Pink and his wife live in Washington, DC. They have three children — two college students and a high school student.   For more information on Dan Pink please visit his website: www.danpink.com   ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com GUEST: Daniel pink PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Sacred Conversations On WorkEpisode 24 In Episode 24, Carol talks with Sean Harvey, a writer, speaker, and consultant to a new narrative around creating a healthier balance of the integrated masculine and feminine to transform people, cultures, and systems. He is the former head of Personal Transformation and Wellbeing for EILEEN FISHER. What would workplaces look like if women ruled the world? You’ll get an inside look, as Carol and Sean discuss his past work at EILEEN FISHER, an employee-owned company consisting of 83% women and 17% men. It’s rare that a company says on your first day of work, “You don’t need to prove yourself. Rather, we want you to bring all of yourself and your humanity to work.” But that’s exactly how Sean started his first day. You’ll also hear how Sean’s facilitation of deep transformational work for employees at EILEN FISHER led to his own transformation, and the next chapter of his work with The Compassion Masculinity Project. We wrap up by talking about the value of using both head and heart, masculine and feminine energies in the workplace. Sean Harvey is the Chief Compassion Officer & Founder of Symponia Studios and The Compassionate Masculinity Project.  His work in personal, organizational, and culture transformation is informed by 20 years of talent and organization development consulting experience and a decade of college teaching experience at Cornell, NYU, and Baruch College CUNY in the areas Organizational Behavior and Change. He works specifically with men to find their authentic voice, connect more deeply with themselves and the world, and live a life of purpose.  For more information on Sean please visit his website: symponiastudios.com   ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, emotionallyfitleaders.com GUEST: Sean Harvey PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier  

In Episode 24, Carol talks with Sean Harvey, a writer, speaker, and consultant to a new narrative around creating a healthier balance of the integrated masculine and feminine to transform people, cultures, and systems. He is the former head of Personal Transformation and Wellbeing for EILEEN FISHER. What would workplaces look like if women ruled the world? You’ll get an inside look, as Carol and Sean discuss his past work at EILEEN FISHER, an employee-owned company consisting of 83% women and 17% men. It’s rare that a company says on your first day of work, “You don’t need to prove yourself. Rather, we want you to bring all of yourself and your humanity to work.” But that’s exactly how Sean started his first day. You’ll also hear how Sean’s facilitation of deep transformational work for employees at EILEEN FISHER led to his own transformation, and the next chapter of his work with The Compassion Masculinity Project. We wrap up by talking about the value of using both head and heart, masculine and feminine energies in the workplace. Sean Harvey is the Chief Compassion Officer & Founder of Symponia Studios and The Compassionate Masculinity Project.  His work in personal, organizational, and culture transformation is informed by 20 years of talent and organization development consulting experience and a decade of college teaching experience at Cornell, NYU, and Baruch College CUNY in the areas Organizational Behavior and Change. He works specifically with men to find their authentic voice, connect more deeply with themselves and the world, and live a life of purpose.  For more information on Sean please visit his website: symponiastudios.com   ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com GUEST: Sean Harvey PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier  

Sacred Conversation On Work Episode 23 In Episode 23, Carol talks with Ingrid Fetell Lee, a designer and author whose groundbreaking work reveals the hidden influence of our surroundings on our emotions and wellbeing. The author of Joyful: The Surprising Power of Ordinary Things to Create Extraordinary Happiness, and founder of the website, The Aesthetics of Joy, Ingrid empowers people to find more joy in life and work through design. People often think of joy as frivolous or childish. In this conversation, you’ll hear how it is anything but—and how it our natural way of thriving life’s ups and downs. Listen in as Carol and Ingrid explore how the physical world connects to the emotional one. How does joy connect with the physical world? You’ll learn the things that universally spark joy, across cultures and individuals, how joy impacts productivity in the workplace, and the simple and affordable ways to create a sense of wellbeing by tweaking one’s environment. Ingrid gives three practical tips for a more joyful workplace. We wrap up with thoughts on giving yourself permission and being brave. Ingrid Fetell Lee is a former design director at IDEO. Her immensely popular TED talk “Where Joy Hides and How to Find it” has been viewed more than 17 million times. Ingrid has been featured as an expert on design and joy by outlets such as The New York Times, Wired, Psychology Today, and Fast Company. She has over twelve years of experience in design and branding, having led design programs for Target, Condé Nast, Eileen Fisher, American Express, Kate Spade, Diageo, Pepsico, and the US government, among others. She was a founding faculty member in the Products of Design program at the School of Visual Arts in New York City. Ingrid holds a Master’s in Industrial Design from Pratt Institute and a Bachelor’s in English and Creative Writing from Princeton University. She loves pancakes, polka dots, and rainbow sprinkles, and has an extensive repertoire of happy dances for any occasion. For more information on Ingrid please visit her website: aestheticsofjoy.com Find her on Instagram: @aestheticsofjoy   ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com GUEST: Ingrid Fetell Lee, aestheticsofjoy.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

  In Episode 23, Carol talks with Ingrid Fetell Lee, a designer and author whose groundbreaking work reveals the hidden influence of our surroundings on our emotions and wellbeing. The author of Joyful: The Surprising Power of Ordinary Things to Create Extraordinary Happiness, and founder of the website, The Aesthetics of Joy, Ingrid empowers people to find more joy in life and work through design. People often think of joy as frivolous or childish. In this conversation, you’ll hear how it is anything but—and how it our natural way of thriving life’s ups and downs. Listen in as Carol and Ingrid explore how the physical world connects to the emotional one. How does joy connect with the physical world? You’ll learn the things that universally spark joy, across cultures and individuals, how joy impacts productivity in the workplace, and the simple and affordable ways to create a sense of wellbeing by tweaking one’s environment. Ingrid gives three practical tips for a more joyful workplace. We wrap up with thoughts on giving yourself permission and being brave. Ingrid Fetell Lee is a former design director at IDEO. Her immensely popular TED talk “Where Joy Hides and How to Find it” has been viewed more than 17 million times. Ingrid has been featured as an expert on design and joy by outlets such as The New York Times, Wired, Psychology Today, and Fast Company. She has over twelve years of experience in design and branding, having led design programs for Target, Condé Nast, Eileen Fisher, American Express, Kate Spade, Diageo, Pepsico, and the US government, among others. She was a founding faculty member in the Products of Design program at the School of Visual Arts in New York City. Ingrid holds a Master’s in Industrial Design from Pratt Institute and a Bachelor’s in English and Creative Writing from Princeton University. She loves pancakes, polka dots, and rainbow sprinkles, and has an extensive repertoire of happy dances for any occasion. For more information on Ingrid please visit her website: aestheticsofjoy.com Find her on Instagram: @aestheticsofjoy   ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com GUEST: Ingrid Fetell Lee, aestheticsofjoy.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Sacred Conversation About Work Episode 22 In Episode 22, Carol continues her talk with Judi Neal, a recognized expert and academic on spirituality in the workplace. Judi speaks and consults internationally. Clients include Pfizer and GE, as well as non-profits. In this second part of a two-part interview, you’ll learn about the power of tapping into a knowing that goes beyond the rational, how Johnson and Johnson creates sacred space at their headquarters, and why Aetna is such a big proponent of mindfulness at work. You’ll also hear Judi’s take on the long-term prognosis for businesses as a place for human beings to thrive as well as tips for getting started on bringing spirituality into the workplace. We wrap up with Judi’s reflections on a life so much bigger than she could have ever imagined, with miracle after miracle, and a delightful personal exchange between Carol and Judi. Judi Neal is the Chairman of Edgewalkers International, the retired Director of the Tyson Center for Faith and Spirituality in the Workplace at the Sam M. Walton College of Business, University of Arkansas and Professor Emeritus at the University of New Haven. Widely published, her books include Creating Enlightened Organizations: Four Gateways to Spirit at Work, Edgewalkers: People and Organizations that Take Risks, Build Bridges and Break New Ground, and The Spirit of Project Management. She is the editor of The Handbook for Faith and Spirituality in the Workplace. Judi has been active in creating communities that support spirituality in the workplace, as the founder of The International Center for Spirit at Work, and the International Spirit at Work Awards, and co-founder of the Management, Spirituality and Religion Interest Group at the Academy of Management. She is also co-founder of the Journal of Management, Spirituality, and Religion and on the Board of Directors of the International Association of Management, Spirituality and Religion. Judi received her Ph.D. from Yale in Organizational Behavior and lives in Fayetteville, Arkansas. For more information on Judi please visit her website: www.edgewalkers.org Or email her: judi@edgewalkers.org ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com GUEST: Judi Neal PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier  

In Episode 22, Carol continues her talk with Judi Neal, a recognized expert and academic on spirituality in the workplace. Judi speaks and consults internationally. Clients include Pfizer and GE, as well as non-profits. In this second part of a two-part interview, you’ll learn about the power of tapping into a knowing that goes beyond the rational, how Johnson and Johnson creates sacred space at their headquarters, and why Aetna is such a big proponent of mindfulness at work. You’ll also hear Judi’s take on the long-term prognosis for businesses as a place for human beings to thrive as well as tips for getting started on bringing spirituality into the workplace. We wrap up with Judi’s reflections on a life so much bigger than she could have ever imagined, with miracle after miracle, and a delightful personal exchange between Carol and Judi. Judi Neal is the Chairman of Edgewalkers International, the retired Director of the Tyson Center for Faith and Spirituality in the Workplace at the Sam M. Walton College of Business, University of Arkansas and Professor Emeritus at the University of New Haven. Widely published, her books include Creating Enlightened Organizations: Four Gateways to Spirit at Work, Edgewalkers: People and Organizations that Take Risks, Build Bridges and Break New Ground, and The Spirit of Project Management. She is the editor of The Handbook for Faith and Spirituality in the Workplace. Judi has been active in creating communities that support spirituality in the workplace, as the founder of The International Center for Spirit at Work, and the International Spirit at Work Awards, and co-founder of the Management, Spirituality and Religion Interest Group at the Academy of Management. She is also co-founder of the Journal of Management, Spirituality, and Religion and on the Board of Directors of the International Association of Management, Spirituality and Religion. Judi received her Ph.D. from Yale in Organizational Behavior and lives in Fayetteville, Arkansas.   For more information on Judi please visit her website: www.edgewalkers.org Or email her: judi@edgewalkers.org ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com GUEST: Judi Neal PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Sacred Conversation on Work Episode 21 In Episode 21, Carol talks with Judi Neal, PhD, a recognized expert and academic on spirituality in the workplace. Judi speaks and consults internationally. Clients include Pfizer, GE, Unilever, General Dynamics, Hewlett-Packard and others. In this first part of a two-part interview, you’ll hear about Judi’s journey from whistle blower to management professor, the bottom line benefits that are created when employees become connected to something greater than themselves and to others, and the power of aligning individual values and organizational values. Judi and Carol also talk about the inner work of the leader, a “crisis of awe”, and how silence plays a role in better decisions, individually and collectively. The first part of this interview concludes with a discussion on powerful, but often overlooked skills of the effective leader. Judi Neal is the Chairman of Edgewalkers International, the retired Director of the Tyson Center for Faith and Spirituality in the Workplace at the Sam M. Walton College of Business, University of Arkansas and Professor Emeritus at the University of New Haven. Widely published, her books include Creating Enlightened Organizations: Four Gateways to Spirit at Work, Edgewalkers: People and Organizations that Take Risks, Build Bridges and Break New Ground, and The Spirit of Project Management. She is the editor of The Handbook for Faith and Spirituality in the Workplace. Judi has been active in creating communities that support spirituality in the workplace, as the founder of The International Center for Spirit at Work, and the International Spirit at Work Awards, and co-founder of the Management, Spirituality and Religion Interest Group at the Academy of Management. She is also co-founder of the Journal of Management, Spirituality, and Religion and on the Board of Directors of the International Association of Management, Spirituality and Religion. Judi received her Ph.D. from Yale in Organizational Behavior and lives in Fayetteville, Arkansas. For more information on Judi please visit her website: www.edgewalkers.org Or email her: judi@edgewalkers.org ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com GUEST: Judi Neal PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

  In Episode 21, Carol talks with Judi Neal, PhD, a recognized expert and academic on spirituality in the workplace. Judi speaks and consults internationally. Clients include Pfizer, GE, Unilever, General Dynamics, Hewlett-Packard and others. In this first part of a two-part interview, you’ll hear about Judi’s journey from whistle blower to management professor, the bottom line benefits that are created when employees become connected to something greater than themselves and to others, and the power of aligning individual values and organizational values. Judi and Carol also talk about the inner work of the leader, a “crisis of awe”, and how silence plays a role in better decisions, individually and collectively. The first part of this interview concludes with a discussion on powerful, but often overlooked skills of the effective leader. Judi Neal is the Chairman of Edgewalkers International, the retired Director of the Tyson Center for Faith and Spirituality in the Workplace at the Sam M. Walton College of Business, University of Arkansas and Professor Emeritus at the University of New Haven. Widely published, her books include Creating Enlightened Organizations: Four Gateways to Spirit at Work, Edgewalkers: People and Organizations that Take Risks, Build Bridges and Break New Ground, and The Spirit of Project Management. She is the editor of The Handbook for Faith and Spirituality in the Workplace. Judi has been active in creating communities that support spirituality in the workplace, as the founder of The International Center for Spirit at Work, and the International Spirit at Work Awards, and co-founder of the Management, Spirituality and Religion Interest Group at the Academy of Management. She is also co-founder of the Journal of Management, Spirituality, and Religion and on the Board of Directors of the International Association of Management, Spirituality and Religion. Judi received her Ph.D. from Yale in Organizational Behavior and lives in Fayetteville, Arkansas. For more information on Judi please visit her website: www.edgewalkers.org Or email her: judi@edgewalkers.org ### GUEST: Judi Neal HOST: Carol Ross PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Sacred Conversation About Work Episode 20 In Episode 20, Carol continues her talk with Bill White, past CEO of Bell and Howell and past chairman of Whitestar Graphics, Inc and now an academic at Northwestern University. In this second part of a two-part interview, Bill talks about his worst and best work experiences, why humility can be hard to find in business, and the importance of joy, self-awareness, and experimentation for a successful career. You’ll learn the secret to happiness, as Bill shares more of his life story, including the losses that he’s experienced and the blessings that he’s received. Listen in for remarkable advice from a seasoned business executive, generous teacher and a true humanitarian. Bill White has been a Professor in the McCormick School of Engineering and Applied Science at Northwestern University for over twenty years. His passion for developing the next generation of leaders has resulted in numerous teaching awards--and a special place in the hearts and minds of current students and alumni. His most recent book: From Day One: CEO Advice to Launch an Extraordinary Career is targeted to young professionals starting their careers. Bill White knows of what he speaks and writes. In addition to his time at Bell and Howell and Whitestar, he held executive positions with USG, Mead, and Hartmarx Corporations. He has served on the board of nine public companies and several startups, including The Reader’s Digest Association, USG, Harris Bank, and the Chicago Stock Exchange. He currently is on the board of the National Association of Corporate Directors. For more information on Bill please visit his website: http://myextraordinarycareer.com/ Or email him: white@northwestern.edu GUEST: William J White HOST: Carol Ross ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

In Episode 20, Carol continues her talk with Bill White, past CEO of Bell and Howell and past chairman of Whitestar Graphics, Inc and now an academic at Northwestern University. In this second part of a two-part interview, Bill talks about his worst and best work experiences, why humility can be hard to find in business, and the importance of joy, self-awareness, and experimentation for a successful career. You’ll learn the secret to happiness, as Bill shares more of his life story, including the losses that he’s experienced and the blessings that he’s received. Listen in for remarkable advice from a seasoned business executive, generous teacher and a true humanitarian. Bill White has been a Professor in the McCormick School of Engineering and Applied Science at Northwestern University for over twenty years. His passion for developing the next generation of leaders has resulted in numerous teaching awards--and a special place in the hearts and minds of current students and alumni. His most recent book: From Day One: CEO Advice to Launch an Extraordinary Career is targeted to young professionals starting their careers. Bill White knows of what he speaks and writes. In addition to his time at Bell and Howell and Whitestar, he held executive positions with USG, Mead, and Hartmarx Corporations. He has served on the board of nine public companies and several startups, including The Reader’s Digest Association, USG, Harris Bank, and the Chicago Stock Exchange. He currently is on the board of the National Association of Corporate Directors.   For more information on Bill please visit his website: http://myextraordinarycareer.com/ Or email him: white@northwestern.edu   GUEST: William J White HOST: Carol Ross ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Sacred Conversation About Work Episode 19 In Episode 19, Carol talks with Bill White, past CEO of Bell and Howell and past chairman of Whitestar Graphics, Inc and now an academic at Northwestern University. Bill’s infectious enthusiasm for developing young leaders and for uncovering the behavioral habits of great management makes for a fun and lively conversation. In this first part of a two-part interview, you’ll hear about the rise of servant leadership and why there are more humble leaders at the top, an HBR study on what employees are willing to give up in order to have meaningful work, and how board of directors can impact workplace culture.  You’ll also learn how big data analytics can help to create thriving workplaces and what new grads have to teach businesses and vice versa. Bill White has been a Professor in the McCormick School of Engineering and Applied Science at Northwestern University for over twenty years. His passion for developing the next generation of leaders has resulted in numerous teaching awards--and a special place in the hearts and minds of current students and alumni. His most recent book: From Day One: CEO Advice to Launch an Extraordinary Career is targeted to young professionals starting their careers. Bill White knows of what he speaks and writes. In addition to his time at Bell and Howell and Whitestar, he held executive positions with USG, Mead, and Hartmarx Corporations. He has served on the board of nine public companies and several startups, including The Reader’s Digest Association, USG, Harris Bank, and the Chicago Stock Exchange. He currently is on the board of the National Association of Corporate Directors.   For more information on Bill please visit his website: http://myextraordinarycareer.com/ Or email him: white@northwestern.edu GUEST: William J White HOST: Carol Ross Show Notes: https://standoutandbelong.com/sacred-conversations-on-work-episode-19/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com GUEST: Bill White PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Sacred Conversation About Work Episode 19   In Episode 19, Carol talks with Bill White, past CEO of Bell and Howell and past chairman of Whitestar Graphics, Inc and now an academic at Northwestern University. Bill’s infectious enthusiasm for developing young leaders and for uncovering the behavioral habits of great management makes for a fun and lively conversation. In this first part of a two-part interview, you’ll hear about the rise of servant leadership and why there are more humble leaders at the top, an HBR study on what employees are willing to give up in order to have meaningful work, and how board of directors can impact workplace culture.  You’ll also learn how big data analytics can help to create thriving workplaces and what new grads have to teach businesses and vice versa. Bill White has been a Professor in the McCormick School of Engineering and Applied Science at Northwestern University for over twenty years. His passion for developing the next generation of leaders has resulted in numerous teaching awards--and a special place in the hearts and minds of current students and alumni. His most recent book: From Day One: CEO Advice to Launch an Extraordinary Career is targeted to young professionals starting their careers. Bill White knows of what he speaks and writes. In addition to his time at Bell and Howell and Whitestar, he held executive positions with USG, Mead, and Hartmarx Corporations. He has served on the board of nine public companies and several startups, including The Reader’s Digest Association, USG, Harris Bank, and the Chicago Stock Exchange. He currently is on the board of the National Association of Corporate Directors.   For more information on Bill please visit his website: http://myextraordinarycareer.com/ Or email him: white@northwestern.edu GUEST: William J White HOST: Carol Ross Show Notes: https://standoutandbelong.com/sacred-conversations-on-work-episode-19/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Sacred Conversation About WorkEpisode 18 In Episode 18, Carol talks with Amy Sandler, a Harvard MBA turned meditation expert, corporate mindfulness trainer and executive coach. Amy has more than 20 years in senior roles in organizations including YPO, Vistage and UCLA, where she ran Executive Communications. Amy’s curiosity and spirit of self-discovery have led her to unusual places, including being a stand-up comedian at LA’s Comedy Store, fire-walking in New Mexico (five times) and getting a degree in screenwriting. Carol and Amy talk about the importance of humor as a leadership tool, what’s need to unleash the power of our imaginations, and how an unfortunate accident at work led her to meditation as a daily practice. They also dig deep into emotions—how they impact the leaders’ effectiveness, the vibe of workplaces, and the bottom line. You’ll be inspired by Amy’s ability to find common ground, her compassion for herself and others, and her faith in choosing connection rather than separation, even under the most trying of circumstances. Listen in on how Amy’s life experiences have influenced her view of great leadership and engaged workplaces. For more information on Amy l please visit her website: inspiremeditation.com Or follower her on Twitter: @amysandler Or Instagram: @evolvebelove   Show Notes: https://standoutandbelong.com/sacred-conversations-on-work-episode-18/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com GUEST: Amy Sandler PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

  In Episode 18, Carol talks with Amy Sandler, a Harvard MBA turned meditation expert, corporate mindfulness trainer and executive coach. Amy has more than 20 years in senior roles in organizations including YPO, Vistage and UCLA, where she ran Executive Communications. Amy’s curiosity and spirit of self-discovery have led her to unusual places, including being a stand-up comedian at LA’s Comedy Store, fire-walking in New Mexico (five times) and getting a degree in screenwriting. Carol and Amy talk about the importance of humor as a leadership tool, what’s need to unleash the power of our imaginations, and how an unfortunate accident at work led her to meditation as a daily practice. They also dig deep into emotions—how they impact the leaders’ effectiveness, the vibe of workplaces, and the bottom line. You’ll be inspired by Amy’s ability to find common ground, her compassion for herself and others, and her faith in choosing connection rather than separation, even under the most trying of circumstances. Listen in on how Amy’s life experiences have influenced her view of great leadership and engaged workplaces. For more information on Amy, please visit her website: inspiremeditation.com Or follower her on Twitter: @amysandler Or Instagram: @evolvebelove GUEST: Amy Sandler HOST: Carol Ross Show Notes: https://standoutandbelong.com/sacred-conversations-on-work-episode-18/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Sacred Conversations on Work Episode 17 In Episode 17, Host Carol Ross speaks with Colleen Reilly, VP of Well-Being Services at ThrivePass, a company that helps businesses manage employee benefits, particularly those related to health and wellness.  Colleen has brought her holistic understanding of wellness to myriad companies, including notable stints with Mayo Clinic and Coors Brewing Company. Listen in for a discussion on a deeper understanding of wellness that revolves around the diverse and complex interests of employees themselves. By listening to employees’ needs and building a culture of care from the ground up, Colleen makes the case that companies can build more innovative teams and reach higher goals by caring deeply for the wellness of their workforce. Show Notes: https://standoutandbelong.com/sacred-conversations-on-work-episode-17/ Contact Information for Colleen Reilly: https://www.linkedin.com/in/colleen-reilly-wellbeing/ colleenreilly@thrivepass.com 303-332-4513 ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

In Episode 17, Host Carol Ross speaks with Colleen Reilly, VP of Well-Being Services at ThrivePass, a company that helps businesses manage employee benefits, particularly those related to health and wellness.  Colleen has brought her holistic understanding of wellness to myriad companies, including notable stints with Mayo Clinic and Coors Brewing Company. Listen in for a discussion on a deeper understanding of wellness that revolves around the diverse and complex interests of employees themselves. By listening to employees’ needs and building a culture of care from the ground up, Colleen makes the case that companies can build more innovative teams and reach higher goals by caring deeply for the wellness of their workforce. Show Notes: https://standoutandbelong.com/sacred-conversations-on-work-episode-17/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Sacred Conversations on Work Episode 16 In Episode 16, Host Carol Ross speaks with Jeremy May, President of the Asset Servicing Division of Denver-based ALPS Holdings, Inc – a leading provider of innovative investment products and customized servicing solutions to the financial services industry, with over 700 employees. In 2015, Jeremy introduced meditation at a company leadership retreat. Since then, he has introduced a program of mindful practices and workshops to fellow leaders at the company, helping to cultivate a culture of mindfulness and compassionate leadership. From the simple act of meditation to a cultural shift toward compassion for others, their conversation revolves around a deep care for others. Listen in for a grounded conversation about the concepts of servant leadership, holding a holistic view of work, and bringing greater humanity to the workplace. Jeremy’s five guiding principles are: 1.    Seeks to serve in every Mindful Moment. Demonstrates compassion for self and others. Listens and responds with heart and head. Observes thoughts and deeds without judgment. Lives in a state of gratitude. Jeremy May’s Email: Jeremy.may@alpsinc.com standoutandbelong.com/blog/ Show Notes: https://standoutandbelong.com/sacred-conversations-on-work-episode-16/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

In Episode 16, Host Carol Ross speaks with Jeremy May, President of the Asset Servicing Division of Denver-based ALPS Holdings, Inc – a leading provider of innovative investment products and customized servicing solutions to the financial services industry, with over 700 employees. In 2015, Jeremy introduced meditation at a company leadership retreat. Since then, he has introduced a program of mindful practices and workshops to fellow leaders at the company, helping to cultivate a culture of mindfulness and compassionate leadership. From the simple act of meditation to a cultural shift toward compassion for others, their conversation revolves around a deep care for others. Listen in for a grounded conversation about the concepts of servant leadership, holding a holistic view of work, and bringing greater humanity to the workplace. Jeremy’s five guiding principles are: 1.    Seeks to serve in every Mindful Moment. Demonstrates compassion for self and others. Listens and responds with heart and head. Observes thoughts and deeds without judgment. Lives in a state of gratitude. Jeremy May’s Email: Jeremy.may@alpsinc.com standoutandbelong.com/blog/ Show Notes: https://standoutandbelong.com/sacred-conversations-on-work-episode-16/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Sacred Conversations on Work Episode 15 In Episode 15, Host Carol Ross speaks with Gaye Woods, System Director of Community Benefit at SCL Health. Her mission within is to positively impact the overall health of SCL Health Communities across three states, with a focus on vulnerable populations. Previous experience includes leadership roles in program management, strategy, management consulting, and compliance. Over the span of her career, Gaye has received recognition from organizations such as the Clinton Foundation, American Public Health Association, NIH, Colorado Health Foundation, Black Enterprise, and Huffington Post. Her six-word memoir is, “small-town girl creating good deeds.” In their lively conversation, Gaye and Carol explore the role of health on a micro and macro level, from changes in the healthcare industry due to ACA compliance to normalizing and destigmatizing mental health conversations in the workplace. Listen in for an in-depth look at how leaders can serve their communities through a holistic worldview and an emphasis on the power of differing perspectives. Gaye Woods on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gayewoods Gaye Woods’ Email: cofitwell@gmail.com standoutandbelong.com/blog/ Show Notes: https://standoutandbelong.com/sacred-conversations-on-work-episode-15/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

In Episode 15, Host Carol Ross speaks with Gaye Woods, System Director of Community Benefit at SCL Health. Her mission within is to positively impact the overall health of SCL Health Communities across three states, with a focus on vulnerable populations. Previous experience includes leadership roles in program management, strategy, management consulting, and compliance. Over the span of her career, Gaye has received recognition from organizations such as the Clinton Foundation, American Public Health Association, NIH, Colorado Health Foundation, Black Enterprise, and Huffington Post. Her six-word memoir is, “small-town girl creating good deeds.” In their lively conversation, Gaye and Carol explore the role of health on a micro and macro level, from changes in the healthcare industry due to ACA compliance to normalizing and destigmatizing mental health conversations in the workplace. Listen in for an in-depth look at how leaders can serve their communities through a holistic worldview and an emphasis on the power of differing perspectives. Gaye Woods on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gayewoods Gaye Woods’ Email: cofitwell@gmail.com standoutandbelong.com/blog/ Show Notes: https://standoutandbelong.com/sacred-conversations-on-work-episode-15/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Sacred Conversations on Work Episode 14 In Episode 14, Host Carol Ross speaks with Jeff Gardner. Before starting Springtime Ventures, his brand-new venture capital company, Jeff served as the CEO of Zen Planner, a software provider to fitness business owners. During his time at Zen Planner, the company grew over 50% over six years, and was rated as one of Outside Magazine's Best Places to Work for four years in a row.  In their conversation, Carol and Jeff discuss workplace dynamics and the culture required to keep workers feeling fulfilled. Jeff's three main passions of family, adventure, and working with great people to build amazing businesses come through loud and clear in this episode. Listen in for an in-depth discussion about how to build and support an atmosphere of freedom and fun at work.  standoutandbelong.com/blog/ Show Notes: https://standoutandbelong.com/sacred-conversations-on-work-episode-14/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier  

In Episode 14, Host Carol Ross speaks with Jeff Gardner. Before starting Springtime Ventures, his brand new venture capital company, Jeff served as the CEO of Zen Planner, a software provider to fitness business owners. During his time at Zen Planner, the company grew over 50% over six years, and was rated as one of Outside Magazine's Best Places to Work for four years in a row.  In their conversation, Carol and Jeff discuss workplace dynamics and the culture required to keep workers feeling fulfilled. Jeff's three main passions of family, adventure, and working with great people to build amazing businesses come through loud and clear in this episode. Listen in for an in-depth discussion about how to build and support an atmosphere of freedom and fun at work.  Listen in to this show preview and be sure to subscribe so you are among the first to hear the show! Show Notes: https://standoutandbelong.com/sacred-conversations-on-work-episode-14/ standoutandbelong.com/blog/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Sacred Conversations on Work Episode 13 In Episode 13, Host Carol Ross continues her conversation with New York Times Bestselling Author Kim Scott. Kim's book, Radical Candor: Be a Kickass Boss Without Losing Your Humanity, reflects on her experience as a leader and CEO coach at high-level tech firms like Apple, Google, Dropbox, and Twitter. In her work, Kim focuses on cultivating strong workplace relationships where both employers and employees feel compelled to give and solicit honest feedback. In Part 2 of her conversation with Carol, the two discuss the necessity of firing low performers, encouraging healthy debate in the workplace, and self-care from a leader’s point of view. Listen in part two of a lively conversation about humility, building relationships, and how bosses can gain the skills to be radically candid with their teams. More information about Kim Scott and Radical Candor: radicalcandor.com standoutandbelong.com/blog/ Show Notes: https://standoutandbelong.com/sacred-conversations-on-work-episode-13/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

In Episode 13, Host Carol Ross continues her conversation with New York Times Bestselling Author Kim Scott. Kim's book, Radical Candor: Be a Kickass Boss Without Losing Your Humanity, reflects on her experience as a leader and CEO coach at high-level tech firms like Apple, Google, Dropbox, and Twitter. In her work, Kim focuses on cultivating strong workplace relationships where both employers and employees feel compelled to give and solicit honest feedback. In Part 2 of her conversation with Carol, the two discuss the necessity of firing low performers, encouraging healthy debate in the workplace, and self-care from a leader’s point of view. Listen in part two of a lively conversation about humility, building relationships, and how bosses can gain the skills to be radically candid with their teams. More information about Kim Scott and Radical Candor: radicalcandor.com standoutandbelong.com/blog/ Show Notes: https://standoutandbelong.com/sacred-conversations-on-work-episode-13/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Sacred Conversations on WorkEpisode 12 In Episode 12, Host Carol Ross speaks with New York Times Bestselling Author Kim Scott. Kim's book, Radical Candor: Be a Kickass Boss Without Losing Your Humanity, reflects on her experience as a leader and CEO coach at high-level tech firms like Apple, Google, Dropbox, and Twitter. In her work, Kim focuses on cultivating strong workplace relationships where both employers and employees feel compelled to give and solicit honest feedback. In Part 1 of her conversation with Carol, the two discuss strategies for soliciting feedback, creating a culture of mutual respect, and dealing with low performers in the workplace. Listen in for a conversation about humility, building relationships, and how bosses can gain the skills to be radically candid. More information about Kim Scott and Radical Candor: radicalcandor.com standoutandbelong.com/blog/ Show Notes: https://standoutandbelong.com/sacred-conversations-on-work-episode-12/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

In Episode 12, Host Carol Ross speaks with New York Times Bestselling Author Kim Scott. Kim's book, Radical Candor: Be a Kickass Boss Without Losing Your Humanity, reflects on her experience as a leader and CEO coach at high-level tech firms like Apple, Google, Dropbox, and Twitter. In her work, Kim focuses on cultivating strong workplace relationships where both employers and employees feel compelled to give and solicit honest feedback. In Part 1 of her conversation with Carol, the two discuss strategies for soliciting feedback, creating a culture of mutual respect, and dealing with low performers in the workplace. Listen in for a conversation about humility, building relationships, and how bosses can gain the skills to be radically candid. More information about Kim Scott and Radical Candor: radicalcandor.com standoutandbelong.com/blog/ Show Notes: https://standoutandbelong.com/sacred-conversations-on-work-episode-12/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

 Currently the Vice President of Business Development at Visier, Zack Johnson is a thought-leader in the field of business analytics. As a young CEO and graduate of Northwestern University, Zack sold his first company, Syndio, before the age of 30. His passion for improving performance through analytics comes through in this lively conversation, in which a variety of subjects are discussed through Zack’s unique lens. As a millennial, Zack offers insights into the changing landscape of employment in today’s marketplace. His optimistic vision for the next generation of leaders includes the integration of technology and analytics which we can only imagine today. By organizing companies using analytics and objective data, Zack hopes to streamline decision making and leadership. He describes a “major shift in how people manage people,” comparing today’s management to a plane without electronics on-board. Listen in for a closer examination of business analytics, evolving technology, inspiring employees through leadership, mental health, personal development, and what millennials are looking for in a workplace. Guest Contact Information Zack Johnson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zackj ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

In Episode 11, Host Carol Ross speaks with Zack Johnson. Currently the Vice President of Business Development at Visier, Zack is a thought-leader in the field of business analytics. As a young CEO and graduate of Northwestern University, he sold his first company, Syndio, before the age of 30. His passion for improving performance through analytics comes through in this lively conversation, in which a variety of subjects are discussed through Zack’s unique lens. Listen in to this show preview and be sure to subscribe so you are among the first to hear the show! standoutandbelong.com/blog/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Kyle N Donovan, kyledonovan.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Sacred Conversations about WorkEpisode 10 On this bonus episode, host Carol Ross speaks again with Bryan Ungard, Chief Purpose Officer for Decurion Management Company. Bryan unpacks a common misconception about how to establish a flourishing company culture; rather than developing policies and practices from on high and expecting results, it is necessary to look deeper into what a flourishing culture is based upon, the structures and processes. It requires a broadening of awareness on an individual level, this awareness makes decisions responsive to the emotional well being of the group as well as traditional business maneuvering. The specific practices designed to shape the culture are effective only when refined and resting atop the structures and process that form the culture of the company. Bryan’s insights into business success are based upon 30 years of management experience and they are profound; listen to learn about the proper use of “I” statements, the true definition of vulnerability and the emotional skills necessary for long term success. More information about Bryan Ungard and Decurion Management Company: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryan-ungard-74b6b742 Show Notes: https://standoutandbelong.com/sacred-conversations-on-work-episode-10/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Joanna L. McWilliams, joannamcwilliams.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier http://www.decurion.com/dec/

In this bonus episode, Host Carol Ross continues her conversation in with Bryan Ungard. Listen in to this show preview and be sure to subscribe so you are among the first to hear the show! standoutandbelong.com/blog/ standoutandbelong.com/blog/ Show Notes: https://standoutandbelong.com/sacred-conversations-on-work-episode-10/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Joanna L. McWilliams, joannamcwilliams.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

What does it mean for a company to flourish? Profits alone aren’t enough according to Bryan Ungard Chief Purpose Officer for Decurion Management Company; the personal development of the human beings that compose a company are of equal importance. Bryan is working to reshape the relationship between employees and their company to the benefit of all. The traditional outlook is transactional, the worker is a means to another’s ends. Bryan’s job is to operate the business so there is no tradeoff between excellent business performance and human flourishing; by investing in an employee or member’s development beyond simply job training is how a business flourishes. Listen as Bryan and Carol explore the concept of an authentic human community and as Bryan lays out the four axioms for crafting a meaningful, sacred space for personal and business growth. Bryan has more than 30 years of experience in technology, business, and organizational transformation.  He started his career as an IT systems developer, designer, and architect. He co-founded and served for more than 15 years as partner and principal consultant of Silenus Group, a systems integration firm that provided systems and services to companies such as IBM, Ford, La-Z-Boy, and Caterpillar, in addition to numerous small and medium-sized businesses.  After Silenus Group, he consulted in the healthcare industry and began his practice in organizational transformation. Bryan received his bachelor’s degree in Computer Science from Hiram College and his Masters of Business Administration from the University of Michigan. More information about Bryan Ungard and Decurion Management Company: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryan-ungard-74b6b742 http://www.decurion.com/dec/ Show Notes: https://standoutandbelong.com/sacred-conversations-on-work-episode-9/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Joanna L. McWilliams, joannamcwilliams.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

In Episode 9, Host Carol Ross speaks with Bryan Ungard Chief Purpose Officer for Decurion Management Company. Bryan is working to reshape the relationship between employees and their company to the benefit of all. The traditional outlook is transactional, the worker is a means to another’s ends. Bryan’s job is to operate the business so there is no tradeoff between excellent business performance and human flourishing; by investing in an employee or member’s development beyond simply job training is how a business flourishes. standoutandbelong.com/blog/ Show Notes: https://standoutandbelong.com/sacred-conversations-on-work-episode-9/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Joanna L. McWilliams, joannamcwilliams.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

This week veteran Executive Coach Leng Lim joins host Carol Ross for a free-ranging conversation about the spiritual nature of business, and the soul. Leng has a fascinating perspective on life and work: a gay man raised in a strictly Christian home, a man with a Master’s of Divinity from Harvard who became a legendary leadership guru, Leng’s life defies categorization and his story is well worth a listen. Leng has coached senior executives in the U.S., Europe, and Asia at leading companies such as Prudential Group, PricewaterhouseCoopers, CIMB, the National University of Singapore, and INSEAD's Executive Education programs. Leng’s coaching starts by introducing executives to their own inner lives, a critical step that has largely been ignored in a corporate culture, which tends to focus more on the external world. Leng has taught countless executives the ability to understand the psychological map that drives their decision-making processes. Listen as Leng gently presents the profound nature of business and discusses the responsibility that business leaders have to prudently manage their employees.  For more information on Leng or his executive or faculty development programs please go to his website: https://www.mindkindinstitute.com/about/ Guest Contact Information Leng Lim email – leng@mindkindinstitute.com ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Joanna L. McWilliams, joannamcwilliams.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

In Episode 8, Host Carol Ross speaks with Leng Lim, a veteran Executive Coach who has coached senior executives in the U.S., Europe, and Asia at leading companies such as Prudential Group, PricewaterhouseCoopers, CIMB, etc. Leng gently presents the profound nature of business and discusses the responsibility that business leaders have to prudently manage their employees. Listen in to this show preview and be sure to subscribe so you are among the first to hear the show! standoutandbelong.com/blog/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Joanna L. McWilliams, joannamcwilliams.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Sacred Conversations about WorkEpisode 7 This week features a continuation of host Carol Ross’ conversation with award winning author and executive consultant Charles Vogl. Join us this episode as Charles dives into the concept of community in greater depth. In addition to highly actionable advice for cultivating sincere and meaningful relationships within the workplace; Charles explores the deep psychological underpinnings of his ideas, the concentric circle theory of community. Show Notes: https://standoutandbelong.com/sacred-conversations-work-episode-7/ Access more information at Charles’ website  www.charlesvogl.com Or his book: The Art of Community: Seven Principles for Belonging https://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/the-art-of-community-charles-vogl/1123435853/2675078157024?st=PLA&sid=BNB_DRS_Marketplace+Shopping+greatbookprices_00000000&2sid=Google_&sourceId=PLGoP24104 GUEST: Charles Vogl HOST: Carol Ross Guest Contact Information: http://www.charlesvogl.com/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Joanna L. McWilliams, joannamcwilliams.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

In this bonus episode, Host Carol Ross continues her conversation in with Charles Vogl, an executive consultant and award-winning author. Charles'  groundbreaking book The Art of Community won the Nautilus Silver Award in Business and Leadership. Listen in to this show preview and be sure to subscribe so you are among the first to hear the show! standoutandbelong.com/blog/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Joanna L. McWilliams, joannamcwilliams.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

In the sixth episode of Sacred Conversation On Work host Carol Ross speaks with Charles Vogl, an executive consultant and award-winning author. Charles works directly with leaders to help them create more vibrant work communities and cultivate a sense of belonging within their organizations. He studied business management and spiritual traditions at Yale University, and is the co-founder of the Visual Law Project at Yale Law School. His groundbreaking book The Art of Community won the Nautilus Silver Award in Business and Leadership. Listen to this episode to find out the hallmarks of a real community rather than a group, and to hear Charles explain how important it is that a community that helps members be who they want to be. This episode will also teach you how offering a simple invitation can help you create your own community and overcome a crisis of belonging. Find out more about Charles’ work at his website: http://www.charlesvogl.com/ Additional Resources Mentioned: Book: The Art of Community: Seven Principles for Belonging https://www.barnesandnoble.com/p/the-art-of-community-charles-vogl/1123435853/2675078157024?st=PLA&sid=BNB_DRS_Marketplace+Shopping+greatbookprices_00000000&2sid=Google_&sourceId=PLGoP24104 Charles Vogl’s Talk at Google: https://youtu.be/MszTlUYF8P4 Pareto Distribution: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_distribution   GUEST: Charles Vogl HOST: Carol Ross Guest Contact Information: http://www.charlesvogl.com/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Joanna L. McWilliams, joannamcwilliams.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

In Episode 6, Host Carol Ross speaks with Charles Vogl, an executive consultant and award-winning author. Charles'  groundbreaking book The Art of Community won the Nautilus Silver Award in Business and Leadership. Listen in to this show preview and be sure to subscribe so you are among the first to hear the show! standoutandbelong.com/blog/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Joanna L. McWilliams, joannamcwilliams.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

In the fifth episode of Sacred Conversation On Work host Carol Ross speaks with Pamela Mattsson, a Senior Executive Development Leader and an Executive Coach who has lived in France, Switzerland, the United States, and Sweden. Pamela currently works with leaders at a large organization that transforms the way the world shops. The company expects to have over 1 million people working for it over the next few years, and Pamela’s role is to be a disrupter that makes sure the leaders and human beings that work there thrive. She is a self-described “student of human resilience,” and she works with leaders to navigate the complexities of being human without the shame. Pamela believes that we are all hardwired to be successful and belong. Listen in to this passionate conversation to learn what it means to interact with others “soul to soul, not role to role,” find out the most underleveraged part of an organization, dive deep into how to view emotions in the workplace as wisdom not something to be managed, and discover what it means to be a conscious leader. Find out more about Pamela’s work at her website: www.pamelamattsson.com   Show Notes: https://standoutandbelong.com/sacred-conversations-work-episode-5/ Additional Resources Mentioned: Coaches Training Institute (CTI): http://www.coactive.com/ The Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs: https://www.learning-theories.com/maslows-hierarchy-of-needs.html Leadership and Self-Deception by the Arbinger Insitute: https://arbinger.com/product/leadership-and-self-deception/   GUEST: Pamela Mattsson HOST: Carol Ross Guest Contact Information: www.pamelamattsson.com   ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Joanna L. McWilliams, joannamcwilliams.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

In Episode 5, Host Carol Ross speaks with Pamela Mattsson, a Senior Executive Development Leader and an Executive Coach who has lived in France, Switzerland, the United States, and Sweden. Pamela currently works with leaders at a large organization that transforms the way the world shops. Listen in to this show preview and be sure to subscribe so you are among the first to hear the show! standoutandbelong.com/blog/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Joanna L. McWilliams, joannamcwilliams.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Sacred Conversation On Work episode four is a special bonus episode, and is a continuation of the previous show, so you may wish to start there if you haven’t already listened to episode 3. In this episode, host Carol Ross continues her conversation with Dr. Home Ngyuen, the founder of the MindKind Institute. The two dive into the practices that make leaders of organizations successful at not only incorporating mindfulness in their personal/professional lives but also within the organizations they lead. Listen in to find out the benefits of coming out “spiritual being in the workplace,” and learn a powerful exercise Home uses with his executive clients to bring them more in touch with their emotions. Get advice from Home on how to deal with some common challenges that may arrive in your own meditation practice, and find out why it is so important to be able to maintain a mindfulness mindset in the business world. Find out more about Home’s work at his website: www.mindkindinsitute.com Additional Resources Mentioned: The Power of Mindfulness: Home Nguyen at TEDxTeachersCollege: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99CRW-bD37Y Organizational Leadership from Teachers College, Columbia University: http://www.tc.columbia.edu/organization-and-leadership/ Dissertation: The Facilitation and Incorporation of Mindfulness in Leadership Development: https://search.proquest.com/docview/1868510641 Professor Marie Volpe, Sponsor Professor Doug Ziedonis GUEST: Home Ngyuen HOST: Carol Ross Guest Contact Information: www.mindkindinsitute.com ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Joanna L. McWilliams, joannamcwilliams.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

Episode 4 will be a special bonus episode, and will build on the previous show. Host Carol Ross will continue her conversation with Dr. Home Nguyen, the founder of the MindKind Institute. Listen to this episode 4 show preview and be sure to subscribe so you are among the first to hear the show! This is a not-to-be-missed conversation. standoutandbelong.com/blog/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Joanna L. McWilliams, joannamcwilliams.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier

In the third episode of Sacred Conversation On Work host Carol Ross speaks with Dr. Home Nguyen, the founder of the MindKind Institute. He is a certified executive coach, and earned his Doctorate of Education in Organizational Leadership from Teachers College, Columbia University.  He received his coaching certification with the International Coaches Federation (ICF) and with the Coaches Training Institute. Additionally, Home has taught courses on Self-Awareness Training, Interpersonal Group Dynamics, and Adult Development at Columbia Business School and Yale School of Management. In this not-to-be-missed conversation, Home shares his incredible life story and shares how he went from being a teenage refugee escaping the communist regime to a challenging 10-day silent meditation to becoming a leading mindfulness researcher and coach in America. Home also shares deep life lessons he learned after dropping out of college and starting a theater company called Club O' Noodles Theater Company in Los Angeles. He used this company to help refugees, gay men with HIV/AIDS, and people traumatized from war to heal through performance. One of the most pivotal learnings during this period for Home was the importance of working from a place of love. If you think it is too late to begin again, you need to listen to this podcast. (The conversation with Home is continued in a special bonus episode, episode 4). Find out more about Home’s work at his website: www.mindkindinsitute.com Additional Resources Mentioned: The Power of Mindfulness: Home Nguyen at TEDxTeachersCollege: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99CRW-bD37Y Vietnamese Monk Thích Nhất Hạnh: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th%C3%ADch_Nh%E1%BA%A5t_H%E1%BA%A1nh Mindfulness Melts Away Stress in the Workplace, CBS News: Article - http://www.cbsnews.com/news/mindfulness-meditation-melts-away-work-related-stress/ Video - http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/stay-calmer-at-work-with-mindfulness-meditation/ Organizational Leadership from Teachers College, Columbia University: http://www.tc.columbia.edu/organization-and-leadership/Coaches Training Institute: http://www.coactive.com/ International Coaches Federation (ICF): https://www.coachfederation.org/ GUEST: Home Ngyuen HOST: Carol Ross Guest Contact Information: www.mindkindinsitute.com Show notes: https://standoutandbelong.com/sacred-conversations-work-episode-3/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Joanna L. McWilliams, joannamcwilliams.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier  

"The Sacred Conversations on Work Podcast" with host Carol Ross will feature Dr. Home Nguyen, the founder of the MindKind Institute. Listen to this special episode 3 show preview and be sure to subscribe so you are among the first to hear the show! This is a not-to-be-missed conversation. standoutandbelong.com/blog/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Joanna L. McWilliams, joannamcwilliams.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier  

In the second episode of Sacred Conversations On Work host Carol Ross speaks with Jason Lauritsen. Jason is a former human resources executive turned his passion for understanding people into a innovative career as an employee engagement and workplace culture expert. After climbing to the top of the corporate world, Jason realized that people want more from their jobs and that a job isn’t “just where you go during the day.” Jason explains how in fact work is another type of personal relationship. He explains how if employees aren’t receiving what they need emotionally from their workplace then it creates a dysfunctional and unproductive relationship. Listen as Jason dissects the concept of employee fit as a function of values alignment, the importance of a thoughtfully articulated company culture, and the importance of cultivating a meaningful relationship between the employees and the firm. Find out more about Jason’s work and booking information at his website: www.jasonlauritsen.com Jason’s book Social Gravity: Harnessing the Natural Laws of Relationships can be found at Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Social-Gravity-Harnessing-Natural-Relationships/dp/0615587879/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1501363480&sr=8-1&keywords=social+gravity GUEST: Jason Lauritsen HOST: Carol Ross Guest Contact Information: www.jasonlauritsen.com Show Notes: https://standoutandbelong.com/sacred-conversations-work-episode-2/ ### Credits: HOST: Carol Ross, standoutandbelong.com PRODUCER/EDITOR: Joanna L. McWilliams, joannamcwilliams.com GRAPHIC DESIGN: Nicholas Geier