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Transcript: Pilot One is a Contender for Real Estate PhotographersTranscript (video above)- Hi all, I'm Dan Smigrod, Founder of the We Get Around Network Forum. Today is Monday February 10, 2020 and you're watching WGAN-TV Live at 5. Our topic tonight; my review, my beta testing of the Labpano Pilot One.What's my conclusion the Labpano Pilot One 360 one click camera is a contender for real estate photographers that want to offer 360 Virtual Tours and do Google Street View map updates for storefronts. Those two things. My recommendation is based on loaner of a Pilot One camera, it's a kind of a beta hardware and software but I been loaned a Pilot One camera Labpano sent it to me, it arrived on Thursday January 23, 2020.And my recommendation is also based on a discussion that I had with some super successful Google Street View subject matter expert photographers at the 2019 Google Street View Summit in London. These are power users of the Labpano Pilot Era: and that's the big brother of the the Pilot One.Labpano is presently accepting Pilot One pre-orders through the first week of March 2020 and I have a link for you that you can get a free GPS module that's valued at $129. So free with the link WGAN.info/Pilot One. PILOT One, excuse me, P-I-L-O-T O-N-E, Pilot One. WGAN.info/pilotoneWith the Labpano had previously announced that the Pilot One would begin shipping in late February 2020, it has since updated the shipping schedule to March 2020 and that's at the soonest as a result of the CoronaVirus affecting staffing at its China based manufacturing facility. Okay so, what did I hope to do? There were three reasons that I accepted LabPano's invite to beta test and review the Pilot One.First, I was super excited about creating Google Street View map updates and creating new Google Street View "blue lines" ... Essentially Google Street View where there is presently no Google Street View, that's the first thing that I was super-excited about testing. Second, is to create a PilotTour using the Labpano new Virtual Tour platform in the cloud, featuring auto creation of tours, that's using a process called V-SLAM.Super-excited to see how Labpano new Virtual Tour platform in the cloud would automatically create Virtual Tours without a photographer having to create a constellation or organize the 360s into the tour. So I really wanted to create PilotTours with the Pilot One camera.And the third reason that I wanted to accept the Labpano's invite to beta test and review the Pilot One was to create EyeSpy360 virtual tours using the 360 panorama shots from the Pilot One. Unfortunately or fortunately Labpano is having so much success with pre-sales, I have not received the GPS module and their recommended backpack as of [10 Feb 2020] in order to create Google Street View with Pilot One.And, also unfortunately PilotTour is still in very early development and I'll talk more about my PilotTour testing and recommendations later in my review. I did successfully shoot 360 HDR panoramas with the Pilot One to create multiple EyeSpy360 virtual tours.If you'd like to see examples of my EyeSpy360 tours, come to the We Get Around Network Forum, WGANforum.com and just use the search box, search for EyeSpy360 or search for Pilot One, either way you're going to end up seeing examples of EyeSpy360 tours that I created using the Pilot One, 360 degrees spherical panoramas.In particular I think, two of the tours, two are the We Get Around Network Forum discussions to look at that include examples, one is titled; My Third EyeSpy360 Tour Workflow for furnished Apartment in Atlanta and the other is entitled My EyeSpy360 tour Example Of a Senior Living Apartment: Easy, Fast and Affordable Tour Creation.So my initial thoughts from using the Pilot One as an Apple fanboy, the highest recommendation, the highest compliment that I can make for the Pilot One is that the is that the user experience strives to be Mac-like.And while the user experience is not there yet, I can imagine that the that the Labpano team will achieve a great Mac-like user experience with firmware updates. Well, I have not taken 50 plus 360 cameras for spin, literally there are that many 3D and 360 cameras today 50 plus cameras. That said, I can't imagine that the Pilot One, 2.2 inch touchscreen with logical menus ...I can imagine that the Pilot One 2.2 inch touchscreen with the logical menus is a huge differentiator particularly when it comes to overriding the automatic modes to change camera settings.So it's very easy using the menus to change exposure compensation, the EV value or the WB; the white balance value or focus distance. So not things that you have to remember and press a button and it's a mystery that literally having a touchscreen with menus, it's super-easy to change settings.So that makes a lot of sense for me. I shot with enough 360 cameras to say, it would be really hard for me to go back to using any other 360 camera that does not have a touchscreen as large as the Pilot One; does not have Mac-like menus, it's really, it's a terrific advantage as part of the 360 Virtual Tour creation process. So about shooting 360 spherical panoramas.When I shot three Atlanta Senior Living Apartments using the Pilot One, again these examples are in the We Get Around Network Forum, I kept the settings on automatic with HDR enabled.The in-camera stitched image quality is excellent and I like that the images are typically 11 to 14 Mega Pixel, mega byte, MB JPEG images.They're just big deep files that if you do need to do some editing on I'm just happy about that. So it may be helpful for context that nearly 10 years ago I was using a Canon 5D Mark III with the Sigma 8 millimeter fisheye lens and a Nodal Ninja R1 rotator to shoot 360s.A lot of money, a lot of gear, plus then using two different software's PTGui Pro and Pano2VR to both stitch the images together and clean up the patch where the tripod is located.So important, for the vast majority of professional real estate photographers that require an easy, fast and affordable workflow for shooting 360s, the Pilot One fulfills this requirement.It's so important, I have to say it again. For the vast majority of professional real estate photographers that require an easy, fast and affordable workflow for shooting 360s, the Pilot One fulfills this requirement. I'm going to defer to others to debate the quality of the 360 panoramas, versus other 360 cameras versus the price of the cameras and related accessories.As I just shared with you the Pilot One touchscreen with the Mac-like experience for shooting 360s really are the deciding factor for me.I could imagine that what you look at my 360 images shot with the Pilot One, again the examples are in the We Get Around Network Forum, WGANforum.com, you might conclude that the HDR is not so great or that the color saturation is not the best I would say blame me first for not changing the exposure compensation, the EV, and not doing any post-production to tweak the color saturation and white balance. That said the images are good enough for me straight out of the camera, to use them in the tours without tweaking a thing.I did get a little taste of the Labpano Pilot Tour Virtual Tour platform.Again it's an early, early, early beta. I recommend that Labpano abandon offering Pilot Tour Virtual Tour service and instead focus on third-party integrations with as many of the 130 plus 3D/360 Virtual Tour platforms as possible. I consider the Labpano Pilot Tour Virtual Tour platform in the cloud more of a proof-of-concept to show what is possible with deep integration between the Pilot One camera and other platforms.When possible using the Pilot Open System to create a much shorter and easier workflow for creating 360 Virtual Tours. I could imagine that camera manufacturers like Labpano are obsessed with incremental improvements in the hardware and software and actually the greatest value add Labpano could add is seamless integration with Virtual Tour platforms and software that already exists. It's obviously headed in that direction with the Labpano Pilot Open System.So I can see the potential when the Pilot Tour platform is working that isn't that awesome, because it automatically places and connects the 360s. That said, there are other platforms that already do that such as EyeSpy360. And the EyeSpy360 platform is far more advanced. They've had a, let's call it a five-year head start on deeply understanding Virtual Tours for real estate agents and brokers.And Labpano really needs to come to the conclusion that it's in the camera business, it's not in the tour business.It's really difficult to do both and as I'll talk about in a moment, well, offering, I'll get to the point. (And I should say parenthetically when I'm asked for a recommendation regarding which 3D or 360 camera to buy for real estate photographers or for real estate agents, I always recommend determining the use case first, then to look at the Virtual Tour platform or platforms that are on their short list of the 360, excuse me the 130 plus Virtual Tour platforms and software that exists today.Only then look at which camera or cameras have easy, fast and seamless experience, have an easy, fast and seamless experience with those Virtual Tour platform or platforms.)So at the very least, Labpano should prioritize deep integration with the following eight 3D/360 Virtual Tour platforms with the Pilot Open System allowing for this easy, fast and seamless experience. Those eight are in an alphabetical order, Cupix, C-U-P-I-X, EyeSpy360, Google Street View, Matterport, Panoskin, ThreeSixty tours, T-H-R-E-E S-I-X-T-Y Tours, RICOH Tours, Zillow 3D Home.I've written a related WGAN Forum post titled, Are You a 3D/360 Camera Manufacturer? The Must Have Killer Feature Is ... So I go into great detail on this very point. For clarification, if the Labpano objective is - PilotTour: Indoor and Outdoor 360 Virtual Tour Made Easy" - that's their tagline, I would suggest that they study the EyeSpy360 Virtual Tour platform. For example, the EyeSpy360 workflow is much, much, much easier than the vision of Labpano's PilotTour even when PilotTour emerges from beta, even in its likely future state of what that might be.So for example, EyeSpy360 Virtual Tour, if you take a look at it one of the examples that I've posted to the We Get Around Network Forum that use the 360s that I shot with the Pilot One, it is a much faster workflow than it would be using the Pilot One Pilot Tour feature.So the integration of the Pilot One camera with the Pilot Tour Virtual Tour platform, that's because EyeSpy360 for example, creates a 360 Virtual Tour and a 3D tour and interactive floor plans and hotspots and so fourth.So as a residential real estate photographer or a residential real estate agent or broker, if you're looking at two things; one is the camera the other is the platform. You might say well, even when Labpano Pilot One platform is firing on all cylinders, wouldn't it make sense to have a camera that is deeply integrated with the platform? And I would say yes, but unfortunately I don't believe that Pilot Tour will ever be as good as or as the platforms that I've just, the eight platforms that I have described.Given that, as much as I give Labpano props for a creating a this V-SLAM process essentially that a way to organize 360s in relationship to each other, in my mind it will always be a proof-of-concept that will never be as good as either the eight 360/3D platforms that I've mentioned or many more of the 130.So, and that becomes problematic because I could imagine that the Labpano Pilot Virtual Tour platform could inhibit other Virtual Tour platforms from wanting to integrate with the Labpano camera. So if lab, and that's because the perception may be that and perhaps true that Labpano is planning to attempt to compete with them by offering a free Virtual Tour platform.My feeling is any professional real estate photographer would likely choose a different 360 Virtual Tour platform from the Pilot Tour platform.I can't imagine a professional real estate photographer in a or real estate agent paying $1,200 for the Pilot One and being satisfied with the free Pilot Tour Virtual Tour platform. It's just, it's too basic, and even if Labpano's intent is to have a very sophisticated Pilot Tour platform for real estate agents, let's say they're at least five years behind trying to play catch-up.So there's two issues here for four Labpano; one, is trying to play catch-up with platforms that have five plus years of experience and then two, is having a platform that competes with the very thing that really gives the most value to the Pilot One is the ability to have easy, fast and seamless deep integrations with other Virtual Tour platforms.And, as I've shared, if the platform's feel that Labpano is going to compete with them by having this PilotTour Virtual Tour platform, it may mean that other virtual tour platforms will be super hesitant about providing integration knowing that it essentially is now perhaps helping the camera compete with it on the virtual tour platform side.So I'll come back, I want to talk a little bit more on this topic towards later in my review but I did want to cover some other points.Labpano Pilot One live-streaming. I did find it super easy to live-stream to Facebook. My Pilot One live-stream to Facebook, I've archived that, I've recorded it. It's available on my Facebook feed Dan Smigrod. S-M-I-G-R-O-D, easiest way to find it, come to the We Get Around Network Forum, go to the topic of Pilot One and you'll see that I write about my Pilot One live-stream on Facebook so that you can actually go see an actual Facebook live-stream that albeit recorded.Plus I was presently surprised about the excellent quality of the Pilot One streaming video. So, given the ease of use and the quality of the video, I challenge real estate photographers to imagine how we can offer this Pilot One Facebook live-streaming feature, as an Add-On for real estate clients. I think that something probably really new and only because it's so easy to do and the quality of the video now is really awesome.I could imagine using this feature for example, for amplifying an Open House and for doing a live walkthrough with the agent, that then continues to be available on the agents Facebook page. So any other Add-On opportunities is a real estate photographer that you see.My Labpano Pilot One beta testing recommendations are as follows; as a Pilot One beta tester, again I was given a camera, I was loaned a Pilot One camera and the good news is I would say is nearly everything that I would suggest that Labpano change or fix is likely a firmware upgrade.So here my following notes for Labpano but I think it's probably helpful if you're deciding about buying a Labpano Pilot One camera, any early concerns that I had.But again I think the vast majority of these could be fixed with a firmware upgrade. First, touchscreen keyboard. The letters and numbers and symbols on the Pilot One are simply too small to be practical.So you're presented with a keyboard, while this implementation of keyboard may work on a larger Big Brother Labpano Pilot Era camera, using the touchscreen keyboard on the Pilot One camera is extremely difficult and frustrating to enter the passwords for Wi-Fi.It's super hard. The good news is that the Pilot One has a great way that you set the date and time with a wheel that's kind of like a slot machine and you just keep aligning the wheels. So the process for entering passwords and tour names would be far, far easier with this wheel approach.So first let's identify the problem is that, I sometimes I think it's analogous that when first there was newspapers, then came along radio and radio first began reading the newspaper.Well, that wasn't exactly taking advantage of the medium and then came television and then television was like radio without picture and that wasn't taking advantage of the medium. So probably over stood to say the translation of a large keyboard that would work on a larger screen, simply does not work in to my level of satisfaction on a Pilot One camera.The screen, is the the touch screen is really big but a touchscreen keyboard simply does not work. In my opinion, it was super difficult to enter Wi-Fi, particularly my Wi-Fi where I have very long names for passwords and then for naming tours, it was super impractical being on location, trying multiple times to get the series of letters and keystrokes properly.So the good news is I think Labpano already has a great solution in its approach to the date and time that feels like a slot machine of rotating wheels to pick the date, pick the time. I think that would perfectly work for passwords and tour names.Next, the transitions between menus. It really needs to be obvious that you swipe left or right to move between menus. It needs to be obvious when you can swipe left or right and it needs to be obvious when and how to exit a menu. So Pilot Tour is so close to being awesome, but these things just weren't obvious to me and I even though there was documentation that documentation for us beta testers was somewhat limited and perhaps the documentation for when the camera actually ships will be much better.But again I don't even think that's something you should have to look at the documentation, I think that's one of the Mac-like experiences, is that it just works and it works as expected and I was at a loss about how to transition. So I found myself constantly pressing the physical home button to get back to the main menu, that's not a great workflow.Next is hemisphere shooting. Well, I found the timer hugely helpful for staying out of a shot. It's just not always possible to hide.So I'm sure you've probably been in this position particularly outside where there's just no tree or object to hide behind and if you get too far away from the camera using an app and Bluetooth then you lose the connection. So I could imagine either Labpano or a third-party offering a solution for staying near the camera, but not in the shot and then stepping around to the other side of the Pilot One to complete the shot. About the image gallery in the camera.Well, I'm so sorry, I didn't even bring my camera into the shot, but let's see if I can just turn it on to show this point here.So right here in terms of the image gallery, so I think you can see I think I have some videos that have showed up there. I found myself shooting a blank shot. Essentially I would hold my hands over the four lenses to separate tours. So it would be nice if a separator could automatically be added to separate tours and to separate groups of 360s.So for example, if you were doing or I was doing more than one apartment in the same day. So, in order to separate those groups of 360s, I'm holding my hands around the four lenses, I suspect that it wouldn't be that hard for Labpano to say, okay, there's the algorithm says there's so much time between the time this tour was done and this tour was done, certainly if it was separated by hours then just automatically insert a blank shot to differentiate the groups of 360s and then certainly it would be way easier to delete a blank than to try and figure out which apartment 360s were part of apartment one versus apartment two.Apartments looked the same. Where they certainly look the same when you're looking at a small screen.While I found uploading to my Dropbox super-easy, I would have liked for the videos to be checked that it was uploaded successfully. Now this feature was included, how to say this? In the midst of my beta testing, there was a firmware upgrade and so once I, when I began testing and I uploaded to Dropbox, I didn't have any way of knowing that it was updated to Dropbox, the good news is that feature was added to a firmware upgrade. And that's true for the following. ...I had made some notes to say, there are times when I need to upload some of the 360s but not all, I'm changing priorities of what needs that, I might have shot three tours in a day but the one of those tours may need to be uploaded before the others.In my beta testing, it was hard to keep track of which 360s I still needed to upload, plus, I would like to be able to select which 360s to upload if I did not want to upload everything to Dropbox at once, I had to upload 360s one at a time and it was hard to tell which ones I had already uploaded.For example, I could select multiple images, I was limited to deleting the multiple images with no option for uploading the selected multiple images. So anyway, the good news is I did do a firmware upgrade version 5.0.10 and that actually solved that problem. Of knowing what had been uploaded and what hadn't though I still think I'm having a little bit of difficulty recognizing which videos have been uploaded or not uploaded.I think the check mark has been added to the videos as well. Again, the good news on this list that I've described, they're all likely firmware updates.So if Labpano is an agreement with my recommendations, all these recommendations might be implemented even before the camera ships in March or later.And again, ... I updated to version 5.0.10. The firmware update was an easy Mac-like or iPhone-like experience. It just works as expected. That may seem obvious but I'm sure all of us had, had times where updating firmware was attaching it to a computer and finding the program and then transferring something to a folder.No, you just, the camera indicates that it's got a, it needs a firmware update, you accept and it does the upload and you're done. It's no connecting to a camera, really nice. There's a feature for adjusting a photo, let's call it a photo sphere or 360.It's an interesting feature but I couldn't figure out how to do a batch change. So the good news on the adjust photo which says it's in beta lets you change the brightness, gamma, the shadow, highlights, saturation and temperature, all that's good.But again, I couldn't figure out how to do a batch change and I would say unless I could, it's really super-unlikely that I would just want to edit one 360, I really want to edit one 360 and say Apply All and Apply All actually means, so for example, if I'm doing a tour and there's inside and outside, I'd want to apply the changes let's say, just to the indoor 360s, then edit one of the outside 360s and apply that as a batch change to the outside one. Now that said, I think most photographers are going to bring the images or either going to not do any adjustment or bring them into Lightroom and do the adjustments or a different software program. But that said, I think Labpano is super-close to having this Adjust Photo feature.All I'm looking for is to add the option of batch change and let me select which images I want to add to that batch. About Facebook, I would like an option to save the video to the camera, perhaps it's there and I couldn't figure it out, but I did some live-streaming to Facebook and while Facebook saves the video, I haven't figured out how to extract a Facebook video from Facebook, short of doing screen scraping, I don't really want to do that, I want to have it something that just works.So I'm not sure that I, if when I live-stream to Facebook, if there is an option for saving the video I didn't see it.So essentially I live-streamed to Facebook and I didn't get a video that was saved on the camera. I can only go to Facebook and have the video live there.Now, and one other I think item on Facebook is I would like to be able to set the countdown timer to go live. So when I hit, when I physically hit the button on the camera, I'd like when I go live to really mean I want to go live in five seconds and that way my hand is not in the shot.Now, I'm sure the Labpano Pilot Go App for iOS and Android, probably addresses that issue but I didn't spend enough time with the Pilot Go App to properly review that and frankly I would rather do it on the camera where I'm not guessing whether or not the app actually launched the camera. So, what else? So, I look forward to shooting 360 video. Now 360 video again somewhat outside the scope of a real estate photographers needs, I was really wanted focused on 360 photo spheres for Virtual Tour.Again I talked about Google Street View and unfortunately I did not get to test that. Hopefully Labpano will send me a GPS module and their recommended backpack so that I can do the map updates, the Google Street View map updates and add some blue lines in Atlanta.I do look forward though to shooting 360 video in March 2020 when my wife and I will be taking a week-long Western Caribbean cruise and I will also plan to shoot a 360 tour of our Miami hotel room. We'll be in a Miami hotel for the night before the cruise as well as our cruise ship suite.So my wife and I are celebrating our 25th anniversary, we've splurged on a suite on the ship and I would really like to capture that as a 360 tour and I'll plan to share this additional Pilot One content in the We Get Around Network Forum when we return.Labpano was gracious enough to extend the loan of the camera to me to accommodate our travel plans. Probably get some really nice beauty shots on the ship and on some of the islands and in Mexico. I did have a couple hardware improvements and these hardware improvements may be addressed even before the camera commercially ships but I'll point them out.The home button, Labpano stressed that the Pilot One camera that I received, hand labeled number 22, is beta hardware. So in their production run, Labpano may have already addressed the home button which feels like it's a tiny bit loose when I touch it. So I just felt like I didn't get the tactile response that I was expecting, it just feels a tinge loose.Again I'm using beta hardware, this may have already been addressed in the production run that begins shipping as early as March 2020.And then the next hardware is actually related to the case. So I found that this soft case it's very nice and it's a nice edition.I'd recommend two things to improve it. First, make it easier to put the soft case on the camera, I struggle with that, it's a snug fit and I think that's good, but I think it needs to be more like a funnel so that it starts out really wide and that makes it super-easy to pull it over the camera and then using the drawstring close the top big part of the funnel, I just felt that there wasn't enough material at the top and when I grab it and I put it over the, here let me see if I can just do this for you. So you get some sense of what's going on here.This is, my hands are near the lenses I don't like that, I suppose it went on, but I just felt like if it was wider at the bottom that, that would be a much better. Make it super-easy, make sure I'm not touching the lenses and there's always goes on easily and again it has a nice drawstring, I think that would close it nicely.Let's see, ah, and the second thing on the soft case, is it comes with a carabiner. So it's got this little carabiner here, it's attached to the case and I like this because there's a loop here and I can carry it on my pocket. The only problem is this is a $1,200 camera, this is not a $1,200 worthy carabiner, I would like to see a real substantive carabiner plus one that has a loop for closing it, so I don't have my carabiner open by accident and lose my $1,200 camera on my belt.So those are kind of the two hardware suggestions, obviously really small things in the scheme of it. Again, I think everything else can be addressed in firmware.So I did get some, I got some pushback on my original review in the, We Get Around Network Forum today in the Labpano community, Jocelyn Trowelburst, I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly in the Netherlands Antilles. Let me read what he wrote and then let me see if I can respond to that.And so he writes, in part "Completely disagree with your point of view that Labpano should forget about the PilotTour platform. To the contrary the one using V-SLAM, the Pilot One using V-SLAM technology to determine camera position in virtual space is groundbreaking.It is a good proof of concept and further turning to make it work," and excuse me, and it says further, probably means, "In fine-tuning to make it work in practice will result in a huge time-saver for tour creators. What is the integration with other virtual tour platforms, Labpano surely is not going to give away its V-SLAM advantage, other platforms won't know how to handle the data." So respectfully Jocelyn I completely disagree with you, completely disagreeing, so let me see if I can break this down.So I'm going to read through and then kind of break it down. Completely disagree with your point of view that Labpano should forget about its PilotTour platform to the contrary the Pilot One using V-SLAM technology determine camera position in virtual space is groundbreaking.I absolutely agree with that, for a $1,200 camera to have this V-SLAM technology that lets each 360 know where it is in relationship to each other, that's amazing. And incidentally I think what happens is when you do the PilotTour, there's a message on here that says rocket this way and then rocket this way and so that calibration is probably making that V-SLAM possible.Again Jocelyn writes, "It's a good proof of concept and fine-tuning it to make it work in practice will result in a huge time-saver for tour creators." Jocelyn I absolutely agree with you on that.This is a amazing solution but again in my opinion and even as you write, it's a proof of concept to show what's possible.Where we start to verge is when you write, what is deep integration with other virtual tour platforms. So that's essentially saying the the Pilot One camera should be able to work with other platforms to take advantage of the V-SLAM advantage.So when you write that other platforms, when you write Labpano surely is not going to give away its V-SLAM advantage, other platforms won't know how to handle the data, I would suggest that Labpano should absolutely give away its V-SLAM advantage essentially powering as many of the 130 3D and 360 virtual tour platforms to work easy, fast and seamless with the Pilot One. Again the, we all shoot not because we want to shoot, we create these 360s because we want to share them.And it turns out that many of us are using all kinds of different platforms, literally if you come to the We Get Around Network Forum, we have a post where we list in a Google sheet a 130 3D and 360 platforms. And by the way, we also have a post in the We Get Around Network Forum on 50-plus 3D and 360 cameras.We maintain both those lists and Google sheets. This is such an opportunity for Labpano to knock it out of the ballpark to say, okay, one we showed all the platforms what's possible with PilotTour. We can do the constellation configuration automatically with your platform. So they demo how it's possible.Now, first beginning with those eight platforms that I've identified earlier, but then all the way right up through the list of a 130 3D and 360 platforms. Imagine how Labpano Pilot One and it's bigger brother Pilot Era will do when they crush the competition of the 50 other 3D/360 cameras by an offering to make it easy, fast and simple for every 3D and 360 platform to leverage the V-SLAM technology that's integrated in the Pilot One camera.So where you write that this is a competitive advantage that they'll never give up, there's two reasons they must give it up. One, is so that other platforms can take advantage of it and if you go back to my original thinking here that when a photographer is making a decision about which camera, they really need to make a decision about which platform first.And before you make a decision about which platform, about what the use cases are. But a real estate photographer, a residential real estate photographer and commercial real estate photographer are likely to zero in on a good chunk of those eight platforms.And right now, Pilot One is at a disadvantage because there's only a couple other cameras that actually check the box of those eight that I identified. So it's really important for Labpano to have Pilot One easy, fast and seamless integration with those eight platforms.And it's really important that they not, that Labpano not compete with its own Virtual Tour platform.So by Labpano offering Pilot Tour, it's essentially saying to other platforms, hey, we got something that's better than you have, we're going to compete with you and by the way we'd like to still have you deeply integrate.And that's the part where Pilot, where Labpano may shoot itself in the foot by competing with the other platforms. If it simply says about the Pilot Tour platform, this is a proof of concept but we're going to enable this and all these other tour platforms, it'll sell more cameras if it eliminates the competition of having Pilot Tour that will greatly accelerate third party camera integrations with the platform.And oh by the way, at the big picture level in the forward thinking, even if we all looked at Pilot Tour platform at its best case scenario that when the camera actually gets shipped the Pilot Tour worked, remember I've tested it in beta and it doesn't work, but I'll give it, I'll make the concession that I'm sure it will be working at the time that the camera ships commercially.The point is, there are there there are many other platforms that have five plus years of experience in residential and commercial real estate what a Tour looks like. Including a 3D view, the 360 Tour view, the floorplan view, the hot spots. And so, Labpano could make a decision to say okay, we're going to put a ...technical resources into Pilot Tour and once it does that, it's spending a lot of time and a lot of money on building out a platform that doesn't have a competitive advantage with other platforms. Now I suspect that Jocelyn would probably say, well, yes it does it has this vSLAM advantage.No, nom, that's just the technology of how the other platforms get to the final resolution. So for example, the EyeSpy360 Tour, they build the tour for you. Never mind if there's people in the background and it's a tour as a service business and it's presently done manually. The point is as a photographer, it is the tour is created for me and it was super simple to take my Pilot One shot 360s and upload it to the EyeSpy360 platform and have them build the the tour for me.If you were to take a look at EyeSpy360 versus Pilot Tour for example, you would, even if PilotTour was firing on all cylinders in its first year, it's still five years behind in all the bells and whistles that make EyeSpy360 resonate for virtual tour service providers in the residential and commercial real estate space.So Jocelyn respectfully, I disagree and I completely see how important it is for Labpano to have this PilotTour proof of concept but then to abandon it in favor of offering that feature to the 130 3D/360 Virtual Tour platforms and that's where the real value will come to Labpano as well as to residential and commercial real estate photographer and and Google Street View photographers because then we're not asking a photographer to both change for existing photographers in this space to change cameras and to change platforms.Best that they can still stay, that we can still stay with the platforms that of our choice and we just switch to a different camera to achieve that result in an easy, fast and seamless manner. So that's kind of my comment for Jocelyn and that's made with all respect. I think this is just, this may be one of those where we respectfully agree to disagree.Anyway that's kind of my review of the Labpano Pilot One.We have started a number of discussions in the We Get Around Network Forum, WGANforum.com, I hope you if you're watching on our YouTube channel or Vimeo channel in the WGAN-TV Training Academy, in the WGAN-TV Podcast, in the Apple Podcast app, wherever you're watching that We Get Around Network Forum, it's totally free, you don't need to be a member to read anything in the Forum.But if you want to join the conversation, totally free to join the forum, plus you get 50 plus membership benefits including the list of 50 3D/360 cameras, the list of 130 3D and 360 Virtual Tour platforms plus special offers on whenever there's products or services.So for example, on the Pilot One camera, you can get that free GPS module using our affiliate link WGAN.INFO/pilotone ... 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Introduction... On this week's episode of the Lunch and Learn with Dr. Berry we have Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough, better known as America's Favorite Family Physician to bless the podcast with some wisdom and knowledge. As we take in another month of April we recognize National Minority Health Month and I figured who better to discuss the importance of focusing on minority care & physicians than Dr. Shanicka. As the medical director for BlackDoctor.org, she works tirelessly to connect culturally competent physicians to patients and vice versa. Dr. Shanicka recognized the need to act on this void of information between the willing parties and continues to be essential in bridging the gap. Her love to support those in need aren't just centered here in the United States as you will get to here about her many passport stamps over the years. Listen to the end as she discusses her love for growth & guidance and how it helped propel her to write not just one or two books but twelve in a year. This is definitely and episode that you will enjoy. Listen on Apple Podcast, Google Play, Stitcher, Soundcloud, iHeartRadio, Spotify Sponsors: Lunch and Learn Community Online Store (code Empower10) Pierre Medical Consulting (If you are looking to expand your social reach and make your process automated then Pierre Medical Consulting is for you) Links/Resources: drshanicka.com www.herdailyjournal.com Facebook - @drshanicka and @drshanickaauthor Instagram @drshanicka Twitter @drshanicka BlackDoctor.org Social Links: Join the lunch and learn community - https://www.drpierresblog.com/joinlunchlearnpod Follow the podcast on Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/lunchlearnpod Follow the podcast on twitter - http://www.twitter.com/lunchlearnpod - use the hashtag #LunchLearnPod if you have any questions, comments or requests for the podcast For More Episodes of the Lunch and Learn with Dr. Berry Podcasts https://www.drpierresblog.com/lunchlearnpodcast/ If you are looking to help the show out Leave a Five Star Review on Apple Podcast because your ratings and reviews are what is going to make this show so much better Share a screenshot of the podcast episode on all of your favorite social media outlets & tag me or add the hashtag.#lunchlearnpod   Episode 104 - Bridging-the-Gap- Full TranscriptDownload [showhide type="post" more_text="Episode 104 Transcript..." less_text="Show less..."] Introduction: Dr. Berry And welcome to another episode of the Lunch and Learn with Dr. Berry. I’m your host, Dr. Berry Pierre, your favorite Board Certified Internist. Founder of Dr. Berry.com as well as Pierre Medical Consulting. Helping you empower yourself with better health with the number one podcast, where patient advocacy helping you empower yourself with better health. This week we have an amazing guest. A good friend of mine, Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough who is going to educate us on how we bridge the gap. We get to talk about National Minority Health Month. We get to talk about a lot of her endeavors. Because she's a phenomenal woman who just does absolutely amazing things and is probably busier than me, right? And I know I know a lot of people say I'm busy. With this one, she is a busy one. Like this kind of doors and my works, like she makes me work a little harder when I see the amount of work that she gets done. So quick bio. I know you guys need that credibility boost so you know like hey, make sure Dr. Berry is just talking to anybody. Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough a.k.a. America's favorite family medicine doctor. Graduated from the University of Illinois College of Medicine in 2009. She completed her family medicine residency program at Advocate Christ Medical Center in 2012. Since then she has gained invaluable experience as a board-certified family physician. She has had the privilege of owning and operating a private medical practice. She is a bestselling author with four titles including As the Wind Blows Vol. 1 and 2. As well as her Daily Journal Series where she emboldens women to take one step closer to Christ and a longtime physician entrepreneur where she teaches at a physician and physicians in training how to start her medical practice. Currently, Dr. Shanicka is the Medical Director of Black Doctor.org and works as a wound care specialist in Sacramento where she lives with her husband Pastor Darrell Scarbrough and their three rambunctious dogs. Dr. Shanicka mission is to be transparent about her life in hopes and share her testimonies will help bring others closer to God. Haven't been the featured MC of the Diva M.D. radio show on urban broadcast media as well as a variety of other platforms on television social media. She speaks in various educational inspirational settings travels internationally including Haiti and many countries in Africa to extend her knowledge skills and expertise around the globe and you do and you'll have the links to her website and her daily general series that I think you guys all need to pick up because it's absolutely amazing. And like I said you know this is amazing person right. And again weekly, we talk a lot about her work with Black Doctor.org or we talk a lot about her work with the international mission trips as she does. So you just got to sit tight and be ready for another great episode but remember before you do that make sure you hit that subscribe button. Make sure you share this with a friend of yours. Tell them to hit the subscribe button and leave 5-star review. Dr. Shanicka 5 star review. Let her know she did an amazing job and you guys have a great take. You're ready for an amazing episode. Episode Dr. Berry: All right, Lunch and Learn community. Again, you heard amazing intro from not only a person I respect in the health community especially when it talked about minority health and it talked about physician empowerment. But a friend of mine, Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough, who is, you know, really helped educate us on, you know, obviously when rational minority health needs. You know, what the roadblocks of being an author. You know, why, as she kinda, taken upon herself to get physician out there, own way. You know, put the pen and paper. So definitely excited about today show. And again, Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough, thank you for coming. Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough: Thank you so much for having me, Dr. Berry. Dr. Berry: Again, again, Lunch and Learn community, I can't hide this person enough. Again, I think, things were going on almost 3 years now I think and it's (Yes, sir). Quite some time and as see, we both see each other grow. Its pace is been absolutely amazing and I'm the biggest geek fan. I watch a lot of my colleagues from afar. Do amazing things. So I knew Lunch and Learn community, that I needed to get her, you know, to educate us a little bit and talk about some things I think is important. Especially in this month that we're in now when we talk about National Minority Health Month. Again, first of all, before that, Dr. Shanika, please tell Lunch and Learn community a little bit about yourself and you know, they may not know, they may not read the bio about of. Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough: Absolutely. Again, thank you, Dr. Berry, for having me on your podcast, Lunch and Learn. This is an amazing platform. I am a geek as well, looking from afar (laughing). And all of you guys do some amazing things and watching you all, do your amazing things is actually what motivated me and some of the positions that I have now, to be able to amplify that. So, super excited about that and we can talk about that and just a bit. And I am back, Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough, formerly Dr. Shanicka Williams. Scarbrough came two and a half years. No. Yeah. Two and a half years. Now, my husband is a pastor. We are originally held from Chicago. Then we moved all the way to Sacramento, California. Our work, he has called to pastor church. My church, Homboss church in Sacramento. So I'm super excited about what God is doing in the city of Sacramento itself and our church community. I am a Board Certified Family Medicine Physician. I went to the University of Illinois at Chicago College of Medicine (laughing), in hometown 2009. And did a residency in family medicine. I'm an advocate of Christ in 2012. Since then, I have a multitude of opportunities and things to do within the family medicine scope. That's really shaped to why become as a physician as well as some of the physicians that I currently have. I am currently the medical director of Black Doctor.org as of September of 2018. And I am a skilled wound care physician and that's a wound care specialist where I going to nurse and council. I take care patients who have wounds, all types of wounds, diabetic wounds, pressure ulcers, so any wounds that inspection, any wound that you can think of, I'm taking care of those, in the nursing homes. And over the past, since September, actually been able to prop of my lifestyle to fit the way I wanted to look. You know, as a physician. It's always a tough thing to do. (You're right about that). Yeah. (Laughing). That's always a tough thing to do but I think right now, I think I fit that sweet spot. So, yeah. I'm excited about what happens in medicine, what happens in the African-American community, as far as the physician, and the growth of physician in medicine, increasing the diversity in medicine. So all of that is important to me. Dr. Berry: Love it. So again, Lunch and Learn community until you see, some special. I usually, I guess. I got a lot of special friends and she's definitely one of them and you know, I thought of, depending on where you listen to his month of April, National Minority Health Month which obviously, I'm biased, right? Because a minority, as a physician, I’m keying to a lot of the different concerns that the, especially the African-American male faces on a daily basis when it comes to healthcare. Obviously, tell us, especially with the month going on as it is in your role at Black Doctor.org. What does national minority health month kinda mean to you? Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough: Yeah, absolutely. So, I've always had a passion for the African-American community, not just because I'm an African-American or I'm an African-American physician. But because of our inequality in health. I have a passion for any person or group of people that are marginalized, that is decent advantage, especially when it comes to healthcare because that's my profession. That is what I see the most. So, everything that I do is centered around career wise and education wise and getting the word out is centered around education, educating the minority population on health disparities, things that they need to know, to live a healthier life and that is ultimately how I became to be the medical director of BlackDoctor.org. So national minority health month is huge for me because I feel like, it is my duty (strong word). It is. It is my duty, not just in April, right? Not just in February, you know. It's my duty on a daily basis to educate and whatever that's look like. That's what I'm gonna do. Whatever capacity or rule that I'm in. That's what I'm gonna do. So I'm a first lady of the church. We have the first lady's health initiative where we are around the country. We have chapters around the country that focus on health in the African-American churches. So I didn't want just to be a pastor's wife. I didn't want just to be a pastor's wife right? I used my platform to educate and that it's all about. So National Minority Health Month has just been an exemplification of what my goal is to do on a daily basis, every day of the year. Dr. Berry: And it's so important, right? Lunch and Learn community. We talked about various diseases here in a podcast, where diabetes, heart diseases, and immortality and birth. You've heard them (Absolutely). And the minority seems to be more adversely affected by it, right? So it's definitely something that drives a lot of us to really want to do more because we need to do more, right? It's a duty. A lot of us really feel like it is our duty to do more because if we don't if we continue to trend, right? It's not gonna be good. Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough: It's detrimental to our community. Absolutely. Dr. Berry: I like. Actually, it's a first lady, what is that? Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough: So a first lady is just a pastor's wife. (Right). If you are a pastor's wife, your pastor having a church, you are considered especially in the African-American community to be the first lady of that church. And if you can even see me but I'm putting up air clothes, as I'm talking. So you know, there are a lot of people like you know, that take that rule very seriously and you know, unfortunately, but fortunately, people, they follow you, like that. Because you have that rule. So I don't want to be, miss in my responsibilities and that's what God is calling me to do. Any opportunity, it's not just a title to me. Any opportunity that I have, I gonna push God's agenda, all the time, every time. (Love it). And He has a passion for the marginalized. Dr. Berry: Speaking of roles, as a medical director, again, I've always been familiar about Black Doctor.org has been, one of those websites, even as a medical student, as a student, oh ok, this is speaking to me, right? And I'm always, always keen to stuff that, kinda speech directly to me. SO that, I actually love the way website. Obviously, you have been the director. What's the rule kinda and tell them what some say that you know what, I can do this? Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough: I'm always pushing whether act to do this. That is always the question of my life, am I qualify for this? Am I doing just fine? But, so, actually, Black Doctor.org, I became aware of them because they are Chicago-based company. Maybe a company. And I've always loved looking at their articles, receiving their newsletter, all of those things. So kinda develop he relationship with the CEO, over the course of many years. I did a few educational Facebook live for them while I'm living in Chicago and even came back. And you know, once I move, but because of that relationship, the rapport that I built with the CEO, I was able to relate to him some of my passions, some of my desires and some of my frustrations, about the way medicine was going and share with him some of the jobs I was working in frustrated me. And you know he's a business mind and ok, let’s create some solutions. All right! Let's do it. Officially, as of September of 2018, I became their very first medical director Black Doctor.org and my role is essentially is to create programs and services that ultimately connect positions with the patient. And one of my ideas was what we just launched last month. Web video connects directory. Is a directory, culturally sensitive positions. So that patients can go on our site. Our site already has over a hundred thousand kids a day where patients are looking for doctors. So we have to find a doctor feature. Now, we are building our list of African-American physicians that are culturally sensitive physicians. You don't have to be African-American to be a part of our directory, but it does mean that you have a passion for decreasing the health disparities in the African- American community. So yeah, so we're building that directory right now as we speak and positions across the nation are joining and we are hearing testimonials of a patient coming to the doctor office saying I found you on Black Doctor.org and I trust you. That in itself, ok look, we are on the right track. We are growing, we supposed to do. In the ultimate goal is to really bridge that gap and help disparities present patients with physicians that they trust so that they can get good access to care, that's the bottom line. That's our ultimate goal in any of the products and services that we create. Dr. Berry: Now was especially that first business of just connecting patients to physicians. Was that something that a lot of the viewers and people come to a website that ask for, hey, how do I found one in Detroit? How do I found one where I living? Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough: Absolutely, we would see that questions all of the time. Like our facebook page, in our customer support, asking where can they find physicians that look like them or as culturally sensitive. You would also see it. Even if some of our doctor's work. People don't know that we have a small community or even a large community of doctors where we talk to each other across the nation and we would get the question of, hey looking for African-American doctor in Philly, that you now, see OBG. We would have those conversations among ourselves because we want to refer our patients to people that we trust. So it was twofold, you know. Not only with the consumers asking but also the doctor. I wanna, need a doctor that I wanna send my patient too for, especially to care or happy is. I' m so, we are definitely trying to fill that void and make that easier for people to connect. Dr. Berry: And Lunch and Learn community, I wanna really stress on, I think we talked about this in the past. It's already been shown that if you're doctor shares similar characteristic like you, it kinda looks like you, you are one more likely to follow the direction, you're more likely to take the medication was supposed to and see them when actually supposed to. It adds to the cycle of becoming healthy and getting healthier. When you actually follow the direction of the doctor. Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough: Absolutely, absolutely. Dr. Berry: I remember, there was a doctor, I forget, where the person I suppose to be while back where the family didn't speak in English, English were not there primary language and the physician actually upset that the person can't speak in English. Speaking of a non-culturally competent physician. Like that's where a lot of people run into. They run a lot of physicians who don't respect their culture, don't look like them and can't relate to them and this is no way they can possibly treat them to best of ability. So I'm definitely excited about this, the connection. That’s really it is. I know a lot of time when people talk about these disparities. They always say they would just go to, they can't really find them. It's not that they don't want to go to OB, they really don't want to go to PH, and they really can't. They don't know where they're at. (Exactly). Not a twofold part because again actually, me and Dr. Shanicka talked about all time, a lot of us physician, we don't do that a bit job, let folks over here, right? If you've heard Dr. Shanicka, she let you know she's in the building, when she's here. There is no question about it. But a lot of us, unfortunately, what we did during medical school, during our residency, we get to a place, we don't tell people, hey this is why you need to come to me. Definitely thankful for, Black DOctor.org just can able to say hey we gonna do the legwork for you. Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough: Yeah. And we're also, our goal is to be able to offer cultural sensitive training as well. So hospitals and organizations can offer webinars or seminars or some type of didactic so that they are able actually to get culturally sensitive training, right. For all of the physicians. You know, we need it. I'm not just saying that just African-American. Listen. If I have Chinese patients or I have Korean patients, or I have Muslim patients, I wanna know culturally acceptable, right? (That's so true.) We can all use it, you know. That the United States is supposed to be united. (Talk about it). Laughing. Just say it. Dr. Berry: Speaking of United, again I want to, you know, Dr. Shanicka business right, before. For those again, if this is the first time you’ve heard of her. She does now only amazing work here in the United States, but she, let her said, her passport is full. She might already on the second book. I don't know even know. Right? She probably in the second book. Because she is, not only the Christian to the world of health care right? In the United States and try to get us together. But she does outside the country. Can you tell Lunch and Learn community, just a little about your international work, right? What's influenced you? Again I'm in awe in some of the stuff that you do. Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough: Laughing. Let me just tell you. The guy blesses my feet. He's definitely blessed my feet. In the past year and a half, I wanna say. I have been to Africa five times. In Haiti in May, it would be at least three or four times. I try to lost count. But I go again, I go again in May. I was, actually really blessed to come across a young lady Sheryl Posla, a missionary for Christ, whose vision and the mission was so completely in line with everything that I stand for. That I have not on a mission trip without her and her team yet. So every trip that she's goes on that I'm able to go on. I just go. I just go. We've been in too many parts of Africa. We've been to South Africa with our church as well. We've been to South Africa, West Africa. You know, a lot of different parts. Burkina Faso, Chad, Cameron, like Kenya, it has been, which the other one, I trying to, I see it in my head and I can't, oh Ivory Coast. Dr. Berry: If you like Lunch and Learn, I tell you, you thought I'm playing if I said she's in the second book. I think you know, the first book is like, put away somewhere. Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough: No. Claim it, claim it. It's not yet but claims it. I'll take it. Yeah. So you know, her vision. I'm a Christian. I'm a follower of Christ. What we do is we spread the Word. Not only, will a lot of these countries not let you in. You know just to talk about Christ. Period. So she has few bringing medical care and treatment to countries all over the world and just so happen over the past two and a half, it's been, Africa. But she goes wherever she leads her. And you know also, try to save souls. We have awesome times. We were usually gone for 10 days. We usually go three or four times a year. It has been you know, be most. I don't even know how to describe it. Amazing experience. If any physicians, whether you are a Christian or Muslim. Whatever you know, whatever you are, that holds no bearing for what God is calling you to do. But if you are a physician and have not done a mission trip. It puts the United States healthcare system on the front line. Ok. When you see so many people that do not have access to care and the appreciation that they have for members to come and bring them medical care, to bring them to health education, to try to treat their diseases. I've seen miracles happened. I've seen patients who were ostracized by their country or by their tribe because of medical condition that they have that easily fixable, right? But they didn't have access to care. Just the stigma, you know, laid upon them. Just the feeling of gratitude to be able to assist them and to help them, to love on them. To come across the country for them. It just, it has been an amazing ride. If you are a physician and you have not done medical mission trips, you know, please, please, please. Get with the organization and go. Dr. Berry: Try to have Dr. Shanicka. (Get with me). And I think, you said a great point because I remember going to, I believe it is Jamaica and the act of gratitude. Like they were so happy that I was just saying hey, this is what you should take for blood pressure. Something that we take for granted. I'll be honest, we take for granted over it sometimes right? Just abilities, oh just take this medication, just do this here. And when you go to the country that you know. Yes, we have some resource unavailability here in the United States. Like it doesn't even compare, right? Doesn't even compare when you go to these countries and just as you see the look of their face and just happy to talk to them. Because they are happy because they know the work that you have do just to come to their country. You know what, thank you. I've never heard so many thank you when I did a medical trip because they were just so thankful that I was just there to take blood pressure and to do vitals. It's just an amazing thing, with that sentiment. So you have heard basically what does mean. Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough: I am, oh my gosh. Yes. As many times as financially possible that I can go, absolutely I am all over. And when I say it put the US healthcare system in the front line. I hear some of these surgeons that are going out and operating, for instance, like cataract surgery, there's a doctor out in Kenya who does cataract surgeries and it costs the patient maybe $20. Now $20 to them is a lot of money, you know, and they have to gather their resources and they have to do the things they have to do to get that $20 but what can you get? You can't get to get Starbucks by yourself and get free and a cup of coffee and a Donut, $20 you understand what I'm saying? That it costs, you know, thousands and thousands of dollars putting people in debt for surgeries that could be, you know, costs pennies on the dollar. So it, you know, it frustrates me the way our health, the direction our healthcare is turning to. It's really frustrating. And not only that and that's a whole another soapbox to get into. Dr. Berry: Well probably, we probably have to do a separate episode. Where do we upset about with them? Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough: Because you know, I can go in and I can go in all day long, (Yes.) on our healthcare system. Then I won't do it on this podcast Dr. Berry. Dr. Berry: No, that's a future one, that's a future one. Lunch and Learn community, she already says she'll come back for a second one so we don't, we gonna talk about the ills of our healthcare system. Just to get a look on our side. Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough: Yeah, absolutely. I'm all for it. I'm all for it. We got to make a change. Right? If we don't talk about it, we can't do anything about it. Dr. Berry: I agree. It is speaking to talk about it. One thing that what I love about you as you love the document, right? One thing is people are gonna know what you're doing because you're going to let people know what you're doing. Right? Can you talk about just how important it is to really document one story and you know, get their truth out there? Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough: Absolutely. So I don't do it just so people can know what I'm doing. I'd do it because I want people's lives to be transformed. If I, if I could be honest with you, I’d transparent with you if I’d never posted again on a social media site. But if you were to look back from my post from 2010 where I was just posting to be posted versus you know, the posts that you see now, all of my posts have some transformative message. Then I want you to get that, you know, if you are not born to get it anywhere else, you scroll past my page and at least gave it for me. You know, sometimes people say that your life is, you know, maybe the only Bible people read, you know. So, and I want to be a testament. I want to be a testament to God's goodness. I want to be a testament of if it mobilizes you to do good for someone else. Awesome, I've done my job. So that's, that is the intent behind my content of sharing with people. Is, I really want people's lives to be transformed. Whether their health, whether it's spirituality, whether you know, whatever the case may be. I want you to be transformed. Dr. Berry: And speaking of that, can we, can we just, can we talk about the, your, your, your journal series just to bring the Lunch and Learn community, just kind of talking about it again. And that's where I really want to really, really dive deep. And because I think one thing about you that I love is that your word is so consistent. It's been consistent for three plus years. Through ups, through downs. It's, it's just been this like, I want you, and depending on who you are, whatever the subject is, I just want you to do better. Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough: Yeah, no, that's that. That's it right there. You said it in a nutshell. That's how the Her Daily series, Her Daily Journal series was born. Um, I was literally in the car with my husband driving to you know, San Francisco or Oakland. Driving somewhere is fun . And God spoke to me and I said I needed to write a journal a month for the next year. And you know, see how that transform people's lives. And what it is, is every for the month or for the year of 2018. The beginning, the end of 2017 to almost the end of 2018, I literally live in front of everyone watching. Wrote 12 books in 12 months and each one detailing some biblical principle. That you know, that and it's mostly geared towards women. That they can use to help them in their everyday lives. And that was one of the most difficult but amazing journeys I've ever taken in my life. To be able to hear God speak one thing and then see Him bring it to finish 12 months later. And the close of the journals was at the death of my mom right after the death of my mom. So that final journal was, was dedicated to her. And actually, her death actually brought everything full circle for me and brought everything into perspective for me. And, and it just made me just love God more. So that was an amazing journal, that journal, you know, those journals are out and they can be used every, every month for the rest of your life. Yeah. I have people that are going through the journals for the second time. We're now doing a hard daily journal live online book club for women. So on the last day of each month, we go over the journal. That you know, what was going on for that month. For April, we're going up a prayer daily chats with God, how much talks about how to pray prevalently and what that means, what does it mean to pray. So yeah, it's, it's been exciting. I've been, you know, I get so many messages about, you know, women's lives are being transformed by these journals and it's just a blessing. I didn't write one of them. Okay. I didn't write one of them. It was the Holy Spirit that led me the entire way. I thought I had a list of topics I was going to cover and God was like, (I got this, I got this) Laughing. I got this. Exactly. And you can actually see as I'm going through them again, you can actually see my progression as I get close to Christ. And that's, that's the model. You know that these journals helped embolden women to take one step closer to Christ. And you can literally if you did journal by journal starting from December. December, what's the first one you can see my journal, my journey of growth. And that's what epitomizes for me is that I want women to grow as they continue to go through each of the journals. Dr. Berry: I love it. And, and, and it's so, so interesting, especially because again, we, we've known each other for a while. So, ah, you know, we used to watch, I used to watch and take care of your mom and I could just see the love that was there. I could see, you know, that I can see regardless of what was going on, you are there to brighten up her day. And she brightens up. And again, Lunch and Learn community, you know, we're fear at the logo, so leave it I guess to say we've actually been rocking the, again for a good time, but you know, pretty close. I definitely am happy for, for everything that's been going on, but especially the accumulation of the journal series. You know that. Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough: I appreciate that. Thank you for your support. You've always been very, very supportive and I'm very appreciative of that. Absolutely. Dr. Berry: So, so you've, you've taken, you've taken what God's kind of put your heart into your mind, right? And put it on paper. But then when I noticed, right, again, again, cause I get it, I'm watching from afar. You did channel that energy to get other people to do the same. What, what was, what was that motivation and how did, like, because again, you dropped 12 books, I figured you're like, Oh wow, (laughing). Oh, I'm bringing you along with me. (Yeah) It gets again, right? Because again, this the subject, you, the, you, the word you is always objective, right? But whoever that you is, I'm going to bring you along with me and I want you to tell your story. Like what was that thought process? And, and again, as I said, I'm always surprised at the stuff you do. So I just very you, regardless of whatever you want to do, you just go ahead and do it. Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough: Hey, you know what? That's the whole point is to be obedient, right? If God gives you something, you want to be obedient in what He tells you to do. And that's what I've been and you know, really focusing on over the past couple of years is number one, being able to hear him clearly and then two, you know, acting on what he tells me to do. I don't want to just be a consumer, you know, I want to be able to give, you know, give what you told me to do and do it because it's not about me. It's about the fruit. It's about the people that are being blessed by it and the lives that are being changed by it. And that's basically the concept. Um, and I believe you're speaking of as the wind blows series. Yes. Yeah. So those are, those are two analogies that I've done and I'll probably continue those, but everybody has a story. Everybody has a testimony. Everybody has something that they have gone through that they have overcome. And you know, I want it to be able to share that with people. I want you to hear other people's struggles and let them know that you are an overcomer, that you can overcome this, that just because you're in the situation that you're in right now, it doesn't mean that number one, God doesn't love you. And number two, that he's not going to bring you out of it. You just got to trust him. So to be able to see people tell their testimonies and even watching them, watching them write it and the transformations that they had reliving it as they put their pens and paper and you know, the cleansing that came from releasing their stories. Some of these people, they never shared their stories with anyone before in life. So to be able to open up their heart on, on pen and paper and to share with the world is huge for them. And to see the feedback given to them because they were so transparent and because they were so open and willing to share their story of redemption. I think that's what it's all about. You know? How, how did God transform you? How did, how did he shift? How did he change you? You know what? What steps did you take to become, you know, who you are now? How did you overcome the abuse? How did you overcome the addiction? How did you overcome depression? Right? So those are, those are all stories that need to be told. Um, and I think if more people open up their mouths right, then more people will be transformed. Dr. Berry: Now, was it difficult to get them to put that on the paper to get them to open their mouth of that was, that was where they, in a way, it was there some issue, (No). That we caused them to say like, I've been, I didn't want to do it before. Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough: Well, as some, sometimes some people didn't actually know that that's what they were supposed to do until they saw the calling. Does that make sense? (Yeah). So they were like, oh wait, I do have a story. Oh, oh wait, I did survive the abuse. He tried to kill me and I did survive that. Maybe I’m rape. Right? For some people, it was a revelation. Other people, this was the first step to the full book that they needed to, right? So one of them, my authors wrote just a, uh, a snippet of her story and we just finished her book. Lishel Evans, Breakthrough. We just finished her, but she completed her whole book. So it was a stepping stone and something that gave her the courage to say, listen, I want to tell more of my story and I want, I want people to hear it so that they can be transformed. Dr. Berry: Beautiful. Like I say it again. Let me, like we alluded earlier, Lunch and Learn community. When you know, when you have special guests like Dr. Shanicka and you can just kind of see the different facets of her life and her work. But you can always see at the end, right? It's always about, you know, becoming a better you. When we talk about national minority when we're talking about a National Minority Health Month. But how can we help our minority community to become better again? Right? When we talk about international work, like how can someone become better, right? So that's a theme that a, is such a sight to see. And sometimes I, and I, I like to, I always, I always like to get on my friend, right? Because a lot of times we're doing so much great work that we don't really have the time. Right. So like the lay it all out say, Oh wow, look at all the stuff I'm doing it right. So this is why I started to like to brag on because they, cause they won't brag on the cell. That too humble. Fortunately for me, right? Humility sometimes still working on it. Right. So like I can recognize like when I'm doing something and I could recognize when they're doing so again, that's why, you know, I said yeah she, we, she gotta be on the show because we got and we just got to talk about her and you know how she can help us become better us. Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough: Oh, that's amazing. Thank you. Dr. Berry: Before I let you go, because I know I've been long talking to you. Right? I want, you know, just, you know, just some, some quick caveats like how is, I probably already said it right when I, how is what you're doing, you know, not only, you know, empowering other women really to the better, better excels and better control of their health and everything else. But like just like the world, how are you, how are you doing that? Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough: Oh boy. But no. That's, you know, to sum it all up, whenever you see me do, you may be in a different position, you know, next week or you might see me in a different country next month. Just know that everything that I do has a purpose. I'm still working on me. I'm still, you know, that still has some things in me that I, that needs to be ironed out and, and kicked out and punch that. (Laughing).It tells something. But I'd like to share that journey because the transparency on that journey, whether it's, you know, you know I have a post on my Vimeo right now that yeah, I gained, I gained 20 pounds. I like to be transparent and my journey to show that you know, number one I'm human. Number two, you are human, you know, and if you know God is still working on me, he's still working on you, (yes) right? So health-wise, mentally, physically, spiritually, however, I can get you to a place where you are healthier, you are smarter, you are spiritually field, and you, you know, you are everything to make your home, then that's what I'm going to do. I come to bear fruit. That’s it. Dr. Berry: Love it. We appreciate it. Where can others, you know, find you, right? Where can others find you, whether it be at, like a or where the media international or list them links out cause you know, they're gonna want, they're gonna want to read the books. They're going to want to read a series. Like, tell them. Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough: Yeah. Absolutely. So everything can be found at www.shanicka.com. That is, um, that'd be www.shanicka.com. You can find some free gifts for health. You know, a free shopping cart lists that you can take to the grocery store to help you shop for better foods. And you'll also find my books. You'll also find how to join the Her Daily Journal. If you want to go directly to the book club, you just go to www.herdailyjournal.com and it has us, you can donate to mission partners for Christ, you know so that we can continue our medical missions. It has everything on that one site and finds out where, you know, all of my social media handles, everything is on that site. Oh d, oh wait! I used to do a radio show, The Diva MD show. (Laughing). Dr. Berry: Again. Honestly, regardless if she says she used to do blank. I'm a believer. Okay. There are no reasons. Like she's already shown me three years of work to say that she probably could do whatever, you know we put in front of her so it's a believer. Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough: That was a health show. So you know, if you want to go back into the archives and listen to some old health shows, we can do that as well. Dr. Berry: Perfect. And again, Lunch and Learn community, if you're driving, you know, at work, take a shower, whatever. All of these links will be in the show notes. Because again, you definitely, this is definitely a person. If you can only follow one person on a social media platform, this is definitely a person I think you should choose you guys. Absolutely amazing. Again, Dr. Shanicka thank you for coming to the Lunch and Learn community and you know, really blessing us, educating us, putting our thoughts into motion of how we can be better us. Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough: I appreciate you Dr. Berry for having me. This is an amazing opportunity and all of the work that you're doing is, is phenomenal. You know, I follow the blog, I follow, I get all of your emails. Yes, and the podcast. Dr. Berry: I apologize for this. Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough: But that great information, they'll make sure that you guys are subscribing to this podcast because you know we are movers and shakers and medicine so we want to make sure that you guys are aware and hanging out with Dr. Berry. Dr. Berry for Lunch and Learn. Dr. Berry: Yes, thank you. And again, Lunch and Learn community. See you guys next week. You have a blessed week. Dr. Shanicka Scarbrough: Take care. [/showhide] Download the MP3 Audio file, listen to the episode however you like.

Stanley is joined by Dave and first-timer Pete to discuss the 1-0 victory over Sheffield United. They're recording in a pub so expect the sound of crisp packets rustling and the barstaff being busy in the background. If you read this description, tweet me @sehguHyelnatS and say "I read the descriptions". If nobody tweets me I might just make up the description from now on. Maybe I'll cancel the podcast. Again I'm talking to myself...

All right. I'm gonna break some Facebook rules because it just feels like a kind of a floaty music day here in Bali. (singing) Facebook's now gonna not wanna post this video. (singing) Super aligns. (singing) I'm in super flow. Look at my T-shirt. It says moon child. (singing) All right. We can turn the music off I suppose. (singing) All right, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I could so just sit here and ... This might be the whole live stream today. It's that sort of vibe. It's that sort of vibe. I feel so lost without the music. Let's just have a little bit more. (singing) Okay. We're gonna talk about some things. It's gonna be really good. It's gonna be deep. It's gonna be Bali flow. I just ... All right, let's wait for this bit. (singing) Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay, let's leave it on low. I don't think there's anything that I can say to you today. I think have nothing. There's nothing that I can possibly say to you. I think we should just sit here and soak up whatever is coming through. I feel like it sounds so odd to hear myself talking. It seems like a new experience for me. I feel really unusual talking. I feel like I never talked before. Something's happening. Something is happening Bali style. I tied my hair up today with a little bead bracelet that my son made. No, my tats are not complete. They will never be complete. My mother is convinced that I'm going to be ... Overflow? Maybe my super flow is flowing out onto you. My mother is convinced that I shall be covered 80% in tattoos. I've assured her that's not so. Maybe 69%, maybe 79% because I was born in 1979. It seems appropriate. Doesn't it seem odd to hear me talking without any music on? I feel like I've never done this before. Lisa, well. Lisa says, "I didn't think I had anything to say, but then I started to talk about spanking." Of course you do. Would you like to see what I'm looking at? I'm sitting on my bed. There's my pool and my beach. My beach, mine! That'd be a nice background live stream, wouldn't it? But it's a nice view for me to look at while I live stream. Hey, Chris Greenfield. Hey, to everybody else who I didn't say hello to. Chris got a special mention because I saw Amber mention him, so I was like okay, let's talk to Chris. I'm not sure what I'm gonna say to you today. I have no idea. I trust it will be useful, whatever it is. Shall we set a little intention, do you think? Do you think we should set a little intention? Let me tune into what the intention is going to be for you. I'm receiving. I'm downloading something for you. Okay, it's very simple. I access my highest soul guidance. I access my highest soul guidance. I feel that you could put your hand somewhere on yourself, be as appropriate or inappropriate as you like. Put your hand wherever you desire to put it on yourself. I certainly put my hands in many places on myself, which might be why I'm in such a flirty mood right now. I feel that you could put your hand somewhere on yourself and you could state an intention ... I'm trying very hard not to laugh at my own hilariousness right now, but it's also true. And your intention could be I allow myself many pleasures of body, mind, spirit, and soul. Yes, I do. Thank you to me. Gratitude to Katrina Ruth. And to the people who are in my thoughts during that process. You know who you are. Okay, I don't know what's happening. I'm gonna blame the song. The intention for our group time together, which was feeling like it might be very mystical and spiritual and is now potentially going down a slightly naughty path, but it's all a glorious mix together ... The intention is I allow myself to access to my highest soul guidance. No, I've not been drinking! I'm fucking Batman, Helen! Okay, I'm not fucking Batman. That'd be cool. Who plays Batman? Who's the actor who plays Batman? Let's check out whether this is a possibility. Who plays Batman? I'm not making any promises until I see who it is. Well, a lot of different people apparently. Oh, Christian Bale. Okay, hang on. Which of this lineup would be appropriate if I was fucking Batman? It says Ben Affleck, Christian Bale, Val Kilmer, hard no. Hard no! Adam West, never heard of him but I feel like he's probably very old by now. Michael Keaton? I don't think so. George Clooney seems like the number one contender here. Hang on, who's this over here? Hello. Never heard of this dude. Ooh, Jason Sudeikis! How do you say that name? Jason Sudeikis? I like him because he's very cheeky. Chris Bale is from your hometown. Christian Bale is from your hometown. Well, then send him a freaking message via the hometown ... You know, the walkie-talkie system, with the cups. What's it called? The tin can walkie-talkie system. Well, George Clooney's too obvious and I did see George Clooney ... I'm gonna call him George, because I feel like I would call him George if I met him. I saw him already at Soho House in L.A. earlier this year, or maybe it was last year, and he looked lovely, but he just reminded me of like he was my grandfather or something. He looked like an old man, in a nice way. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to let you all down. I'm going with Jason Sudeikis. Someone send him a message, advise him. Hang on. Do you know how many fucking people have played Batman? I'm still scrolling right here. William Baldwin! Okay, okay. William Baldwin, Jason Sudeikis, whose name I'm not sure how to say. Jason Sudeikis is not visually, normally my type. Okay. Sorry, Jason, if you end up watching this and someone tags you in, but he's very sexy from an energy point of view. Very, which makes him extraordinarily physically attractive and he's got a cheeky glint in his eye always, which I appreciate a lot. I'm still freaking scrolling! Who are all these people? There's a woman here! It says a woman played Batman. Wyatt, I can't sleep with anybody called Wyatt. It's a hard no. Do you notice that when you go through Bumble or whatever ... I used to do this, I don't really use those any apps anymore. Who can be fucked with that? Do you notice that when you go through Bumble or whatever, that many times you will automatically, somebody gets swiped left on automatically just because of their name? I don't care what they have to say about themselves or what their look is. There's many names that are a hard no for me automatically. What did we come here to talk about? Because I feel like it was getting really fucking powerful and spiritual and Bali super flow and then it's just become kind of inappropriate. But I will repeat, just to be clear, cheekiness is one of my highest values, in myself and in others. If you're a cheeky sort of a person, and you know who you are if you are, if you're the kind of person, Bumble fumble, they wish they could get a fumble. I was deleting all of them. Ruthlessly. I even deleted all my matches. I went in there yesterday and deleted them just to make some kind of energetic point. I had no reason to do that, seems a little bit rude. Okay, one guy I left in there because he follows all my Insta stories and then I felt like he would see that I unmatched him on Bumble and that he'd feel personally offended by it. Hopefully he's not watching this now. But I like his vibe and his energy anyway, just from a perspective of never probably gonna meet him. But happy to see him on my Insta stories. Calling in the everything you deserve. Well, I think we're talking about that perfectly. We've established many things, which is that George Clooney, when you see him in real life makes you wanna bring him a cup of tea because you feel like it's your grandfather, and Jason Sudeikis on the other hand is fuckable because he looks cheeky. Deleting all the matches. I went through my matches on Bumble, and I was like - our cheekiest sweetie and flirty, that's true - and I was like what kind of mindset - I'm gonna just do my stretches - what kind of mindset was I fucking in when I said that I might meet these people? I never met any of them anyway, the Bumbles. Have I ever even met a single person off Bumble? I've met two or three off Tinder. I dated one for a while from Tinder. You know, you guys know about that. Shoulders, we called him, amongst our communities. We still could call him that. There's no reason why he loses the name just because I don't see him anymore. But if I saw him I'd call him Shoulders, and maybe I'd tell him that everybody talks about him, even though he doesn't know that. Hang on. Do you not meet anyone from Bumble? I did. I did one time go on a date here in Bali with a guy from Bumble. We sat in the sand and drank beer, which I don't do, but I was embracing the romance of the moment, because I met him down by Finn's, which is a beach club down yonder. Not the same yonder from yesterday. Well, same beach yonder. Different yonder, sort of. Then he scooted up on his scooter, obviously. What else would you scoot up on? Maybe some roller skates. That'd be cool. And he was like, "Jump on the back of my scooter." And I just did. I felt like wild and free and reckless, and we just took off through the jungle on the frickin' scooter, which actually got bogged down on some mud, so it lost the romance somewhere along the way. But then made it through to a private beach with a private bar that I'd never heard of. Because of the whole experience and the sand was black, it required me to drink beer, and I drank that beer that people drink in Bali. What's it called? I don't remember. But it was fun. So that was my whole extent of Bumble. But yet I've spent many times, much time on Bumble. When I went through my matches, not that much time, I just pay for the extra version where you can see straight away if he matches you, and then you can just basically pick like a buffet. But I think my mindset must have been in a funky place, because I haven't been on that app for months, and I jumped on yesterday to have a look at who I had matched, and I was like, "What the fuck was I thinking? These were so many not fuck yeses. Bintang. I'm not sure if we did drink Bintang. Maybe it was something else. But maybe it was Bintang. If I had a Bintang right now I'd drink one, just to make my point. But anyway, Helen asked am I drinking and the answer was no I'm Batman, and then somehow we got onto George Clooney and then Jason Sudeikis and now here we are. But if you jumped on late, you missed some powerful frickin' meditation and Bali superflow at the start. And a little bit of singing. A little bit of music. Here's a sample for you. (singing) Okay Facebook, I'm gonna post the damn video anyway. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. Please don't get me in trouble. I bring lots of people to Facebook because they love to watch me. Okay. So. The point was - I'm not sure why I need my sunglasses to emphasise the point, but it feels appropriate. The point wasn't drinking, was Batman, am Batman, would potentially sleep with Batman depending on which Batman we're talking about, and I was gonna talk to you about calling it all in. Right? Right. Okay. The intention for you was I allow myself to access my highest soul guidance. You could type it in as a comment below if you like. I allow myself to access my highest soul guidance. Hi Anna. I feel that I'm gonna type it in for you, because I'm super helpful as a person in general. Maybe I'm in a extra high vibe as fuck state because I didn't eat anything yet today. You know when you haven't eaten but you've done an amazing super flow workout ... Maybe I'm in a extra high vibe as fuck state because I didn't eat anything yet today. Shush. You know when- Stop. You haven't eaten but- Shut up. You've done an amazing super flow workout ... What's happening, I can't turn her off. Okay. All right. There was no pause button. There's no pause button on this bitch. There's no pause button here. I don't know why I'm wearing sunglasses on the live stream now. I am at my most ridiculous and inappropriate and random when I've not been drinking anything, just to be clear. Chris, you frickin' fast action taker. Chris is like, "Bitch please, I already allowed it." All right. I'm gonna type it in anyway. I allow myself to access my highest soul guidance. Yes bish. And I'm channelling Ashley O'Donnell. Okay, I accidentally wrote solo guidance. I meant to write soul. But I'm happy with solo guidance. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. Okay. How do you access your highest soul guidance? You just fucking allow it, don't you? There's nothing else you need to do Angelo. Hello. Nothing else to to it. I'm returning your kiss emoji. I feel like I should, at this point in my business and life, it's actually like embarrassing that I don't have my own set of emojis. Kat-mojis. Let's write a message to Jessa Lewis. Jessa Lewis. Hey. Okay. Jessa Lewis. Why won't it let me tag her? There we go. Why don't I have Kat-mojis yet? Rectify this forthwith. Thank you. All right. You guys have been witness to that comment. It tried to change my word thank you into thank you BU. It literally did. It just tried to tag somebody called BU. I don't even have a friend called BU. Why am I not friends with somebody called BU? But I appreciate the message from Facebook. Okay. Ruby, hello. Ruby gets shade lifting hello, because she's extra fabulous, like extra. Extra extra. I'm gonna think about what I'm gonna say next. I'm not gonna think about it at all. I'm gonna wait for it to appear to me in a vision, in a dream, in a download, like Batman. How do you allow yourself to access your highest soul guidance? I feel the glasses are helping me today. So extra. Extra as fuck. Playing tight. Level. Level extra. How many words can we join together and have it still make sense? It doesn't need to make any sense at all. I mean, it's very easy. We really don't need to have a conversation about how to access your highest could guidance. Chris already did it in an instant. In an instant, you guys. I don't know if he was doing it previously or if he just did it straight away. How do you put it in the bank? You fucking decide. You decide that the money is available to you and then you pluck it out of the air like plucking a feather from a chicken. All right? That's how it works. People are gonna get annoyed at me, potentially, for saying something like that. People can go on people on somewhere else. They don't need to people over here. But people who resonate with this, send me the love hearts to tell me that you resonate. Tell me about it. Do you resonate? Yes or no. Do you believe? You maybe haven't done it yet. Maybe like, "Meh. I just didn't feel like deciding this. I didn't feel like deciding any fucking thing yet." But if you believe ... Okay, I find that I have to look like this in order to see properly. What's happening here? I jump on my Facebook and I rudely see a photo of my own sister with my mother that I'm not in. I find this outrageous. How come they're hanging out together without me? Okay, it's because I'm not there, rudely. My sister moved to the Gold Coast, and then I just left, and I haven't even seen her once, and it's been like six weeks. It was very rude of my travel plans, actually. And now I see my mother and my sister just moseying around the Gold Coast at the ... Well, I won't say where they are. I nearly just said where they are. I'm sure everybody's just gonna rush down there to meet them. There they are. Aren't they beautiful? Send a love heart shower for my sister and my mother. They look like two gangsters. Just because I'm wearing sunglasses doesn't mean they should be wearing sunglasses all over Facebook. That's my role. Send them all love. They're energetically receiving it right now. Thank you. Finally feels good to be this high vibrationally. Chris's crown is pulsating crazy energies. I feel that Chris should come on as a guest presenter nearly on this live stream, because he's clearly got some sort of vibe going on that we all need to know about and understand. Okay. I just jumped into my own search history, and what I found is that last night, late at night, I've apparently searched for the term - hang on one second - oh no, it's gone. Oh, here it is. "I'm a strong independent womb." I think I was trying to find a blog post of mine that I wrote a year or so called "I'm a strong independent woman and I still need a man." Okay, I'm really in this stretching emphasis phase today. It's because I haven't had my daily massage yet. My body's crying, it's crying in sadness and grief. And acceptance and self love. And I apparently couldn't find the blog because I accidentally searched for "I'm a strong independent womb." I don't know if I fully resonate with that. I don't know if I fully resonate with being a strong independent womb. But I'll go with strong independent woman who still needs a man. Not feminist, by the way. Sorry, not sorry. Just so you know. Somebody thought I was feminist not so long ago. I was outraged at the implication. Angela is a strong independent woman. And I'm not even gonna get into it. I'm not even gonna answer your questions on that, so don't ask me about them. What I was saying is, what I was saying is, do you believe that money can be plucked from the air and that it's a decision and a choice, and if you believe, say I believe so that I know who you are and so that you know who you are. I'm a believer, you could say. Oh my god. Okay, I won't put my music on. But if you feel like doing it later, then type in Imagine Dragons, I'm A Believer. It's a fabulous song. Fabulous. Totally believes his Angela. We're gonna have a small intermission of 12.989 seconds while I turn on the air conditioning, because I'm overheating this bitch up right now. With my energy and my high vibe. I'm like a queen, you guys. I have like 18 cushions here. Look at all my cushions. You know you're a queen when you have extra cushions. Brandon believes in himself. He's asking do we still believe in Brandon. That's an interesting question. Is Brandon Marshall ever real? What was that movie, Who Forgot Sarah Marshall, or Who Kissed Sarah Marshall, or Who Loves Sarah Marshall. But I always think of Brandon. Who Forgot Brandon Marshall. Who Believes in Brandon Marshall. Can we make a team movie? Can we make a community movie? I'm gonna be the star. I'll be one of the stars. Brandon, you can definitely get a strong star act in there. Who else? I think we should make it. Fuck all of you going to Maui without inviting me, by the way. Just so we're clear on that. Dating Sarah Marshall. We could do Dating Brandon Marshall. We could have a guest appearance by like 50 contenders, and I'm gonna be in charge of judging who he gets to date. Hang on. Who he gets to date. Who gets to date him. Sorry. Yeah, but nobody invited me. Okay, fine, I was energetically invited, I understand. I invite myself wherever I wanna go anyway. When I think of Brandon I think of sweet potatoes and eggplants. Why eggplants? Forgetting Sarah Marshall. Is it called Forgetting Sarah Marshall or is it called Dating Sarah Marshall? We're definitely going to do a reality show, and it's gonna be in Maui, maybe Bora Bora in Regan's little hut that she's living in right now that she's been rudely sending me small videos all morning just so I know where I'm not at. It's extraordinarily ... She's still messaging me right now. She's just sending me freaking photos and messages that are amazing, just to show me where she's at and where I'm not at. It looks incredible, you guys. Incredible. I'm looking at them right now. All right. I could show ... Oh my god. Look at this stuff. Why are we not all there? We're gonna go there. We're gonna go to ... Oh my god. We're gonna go to Regan's little hut, and we're gonna do a reality show called Dating Brandon Marshall. Does he use eggplants? Because eggplants are a sexual emoji. Everybody knows that. I've not noticed it. Maybe I'm just not tuning in on that frequency and you are, Angela. The whole point is, it's really a very boring topic to talk about how to make money what the hell emojis are those? Eggplants are penis emojis. I thought I would go with the sort of subtle, you know, description of what an eggplant emoji is. But an eggplant is for a penis. If you wanna show that you've got a penis, then you put an eggplant up. Or if you desire a penis, you can put many eggplants up. Ashley, of course you got tagged in. It's being random as fuck you're gonna need to watch the replay. I don't even know what happened, but somebody asked if I'm high on, if I'm drinking alcohol, and I somehow have ended up confessing which Batman actors I would sleep with. I didn't confess it, I had to fucking research it on Google first in order to make a decision. Hang on. Melissa. Penises on your iPad. What are you talking about? Who's ... No, no penis screenshots. Do not send me a penis screenshot. No. Depending on whose it is. You can send your suggestions through first, and I'll say yes or no. One time, somebody in my inner circle ... They're not little penis emojis. No. Everybody stop talking. Okay, I didn't say penis. All right. My mind is obviously there. I'm sorry. I did roughly tell you what was happening before I came on this live stream. I did roughly tell you when we did our intention setting and I told you to put your hands on your body, and then we went into a slightly distracted conversation about which part of the body and where my hands had been earlier. Bradley Cooper. Oh my god, was that you Anna? Bradley Cooper. I mean, I'm not pro monogamy anyway, but if I was monogamous, and I was in a closed relationship, obviously the one person that there would be an exception for is Bradley Cooper. Where's my Kat-moji? Send it to me. I vaguely remember that we did something like this. I definitely forget way more stuff than what I ever remember. Why are there flying people? Bradley is a hard yes. Always, 100 percent of the time, hard. Yes. Hard. Yes. Hard. Okay. Bali's doing stuff to me. It's on here. Is it got red hair? Because I don't care for Katrina with red hair. That wasn't even Katrina. That was Kat. Hang on, I think Katrina Ruth did have red hair for a brief period of time. Watch what happens when I put a hat out. Why are there floating people on my screen? Why? Because it makes me feel like there's some voodoo, shamanic, spiritual shit going on on my live stream. I'm the flying person. Why am I flying by? How are you guys doing that, you weirdos? How are you doing that? You're freaking me out. Are you serious? What? How? How? How are you doing that? What's happening? Why am I flying by? I don't wanna be possessed. I don't want there to be 7,000 Katrinas flying on by. I feel like I've become possessed and now I'm flying all over the world. Stop it. Just stop it, all of you. Stop. Stop. How? Oh my god. I thought it was flying penises and it was flying Katrinas. But how are you making the Kat-moji fly, you guys? It's witchcraft. I told you I'm not a fucking witch. Okay, send me a photo. You're totally freaking me out right now. Okay, do you know what I realised just happened? Do you understand the power of what just happened right here in this bedroom in Bali? Do you understand that I just instantly fucking manifested a Kat-moji? Do you understand that was never there before, and it's never happened before, and I'm fucking manifesting like a mother fucker right here. Pete C, somebody can't make them, Pete, that's exactly like the people who say they see the money and they can't receive it. It's a decision and a choice. You've gotta pluck it from the air. Oh my god. I'm in gratitude and shock and awe and I'm humbled. And I'm a little bit hysterical. I still didn't drink anything except for my Batman juice. I just instantly manifested a Kat-moji. There seems to be many of them. There's one who's being kind of a bitch about it because she's got her back to it and she's kind of like, "Here I am, bitches." Actually, bishes. And then there's another one that's you know badass pose. You know my Lara Croft outfit from my photo shoot. Okay. It's under control. Fear not. Fear not. Okay. The Batman juice, we can make some more right here if you guys insist. It's apple cider vinegar with apple flavoured branch chain amino acids. It's everything. What was I just gonna do. Oh yeah. So. My Lara Croft pose where you see ... Hang on. How much can you see down here? You just don't need to wear clothes ever in Bali, really. It's actually rude and selfish to wear clothes in Bali. But I was doing the photo shoot day in Hollywood. I was just not not not not not not not not in the flow zone, because I don't like to fucking pose for photos. I get grumpy about it, and then I start to feel fat, and then I yell at anybody who calls me attractive, because I tell them they're lying. I have a total temper tantrum like a child. Anyway, I was like "Fuck all y'all," and I was sitting on the floor in the photo studio in my outfit, looking like a gangster, even though I didn't feel like one at all, at all, and I was sitting in this sort of position that you guys are sending weird flying ones of across the screen now, little possessed ones, you know, with a hand on my leg and just kinda like ... Actually I was feeling grumpy and sad and down. That photo ended up being the key fucking photo in that outfit. I've used it many times in blog posts. You guys seem to be sending it flying across the screen. Where is it. Okay, nobody needs to see my eyes that up close, but if you desire to here they are. I feel that I could have used extra concealer, and I think I've been forgetting to do my eye makeup manifestation to stop my eye makeup coming off. I need some Kat Von D eyeliner, apparently. Anyway, Pete said that he can see the flying Katrinas, but he can't access them. I feel like that is an important and fabulous analogy. Why is the air conditioner not working. I swear to got I just got up and turned it on, didn't I? I feel like that's an important analogy about people who see money but don't access it, and it reminds me additionally of people who see ghosts. I don't know whether you wanna access ghosts or not. There's the view again. Just so that you get to enjoy it for a moment. I'm enjoying it the whole time. Not really, I'm just enjoying myself. That wasn't rude at all. Yes. This morning I woke up and I was half asleep. I didn't tell you about the money thing. But the money conversation is just so like, who even can be fucked to talk about how to make money? Do you really wanna talk about how to make money, or would you rather just frickin' jump onto a frequency and a vibrational energy space and place where the money's just there and you can just swim in it and take as much as you like? Wouldn't that be more interesting? And then we can just kick fucking around? I mean, I feel like I'd be quite bored of you as a person already if you want a frickin' strategy around how to make money. I'm gonna say strategy like that. So Michelle Bossy's close. This doesn't surprise me at all. But this morning I woke up to a conversation from my children who were in the bed with me like two little mutts, and I was half asleep, and I heard one say to the other, the larger one said to the less large one, that she saw a ghost in the bathroom. She's trying to scare him. And he said to her, "Don't be silly, Alyssa. There's no such thing as ghosts or monsters or bears." Is what I heard him say. I was just dying. His little face. He's like, "Don't be silly. There's no such things as ghosts or monsters or bears. Everybody know that." And then Alyssa's like, "No, there's bears in America." And he's like, "Oh, really? What about ghosts?" She's like ... What did she say? I don't remember, but it was funny. I liked the no such thing as bears and ghosts and wolves. Wolves, okay I got distracted by Stacy's comment about wolves. Monsters and bears. But the reality is if you see a bear, then you would believe in him. If you saw a ghost you would believe in him. If you saw Katrina Ruth flying across your screen like a little possessed Batman, then you'd be freaked the fuck out. Send some more Katrinas for everybody who just jumped on. If you jumped on, you've missed the most random live stream in the history of our live streams, I'm just gonna warn you. I don't know if you wanna even re-watch. Hang on. Everyone's private messaging me right now all at once. Why are all these people messaging me? Ooh. Ah, you're all sending me frickin' screenshots. I thought when people were also messaging all day so far ... What's happening? Okay. Don't worry. Something very interesting just happened in my private messages. Very interesting indeed. By the way, do you wanna join Rich Hot Empire? Because I feel that I'm gonna forget to talk about it. Mim, can you put the comment in? Rich Hot Empire. Six weeks one on one with me. I don't know if I've made a particularly good demonstration of what might happen in that time, six weeks one on one with me so far on this live stream. I'm gonna tell you straight up from the gate up that when you work with me one on one, I will give you all the philosophies that you desire and require about life and about business and about money making. I'll give them all to you because I understand the fear mentality. Is Mim on the live stream or did she leave in horror at what was going on? Are you gonna put the comment in? Are you there? Let's message her on What's App just in case. Can you add comment. Hang on. Wait. Maybe she already did it. Of course. She's all over it there it is. Okay, don't read it now. Remember, read it later. When you work with me one one, let me just tell you how it is. I'm gonna tell you how it is. Lisa could also tell you because she's here and she did Rich Hot Empire. Many people have done Rich Hot Empire. I will give you all the strategies. I'm bored already talking about it is the truth of the matter. But I will. I created all the strategies for you to tell you exactly what to do and exactly how to do it. Oh my god, the flying Katrinas are freaking me out. Mim, can you find out how are those flying Katrinas happening? It's very bizarre. Somebody screenshot all the flying Katrinas so that I can have proof, because I don't think anyone's gonna believe it. And then how can we make them into actual emojis though that can be used all the time? I wanna be able to put ... I'm like Veruca Salt now on the Willy Wonka movie. I want, I want, I want. I wanna be able to put Katrina emojis on my own posts on Facebook to emphasise things, and I want the Spanish flamenco dancing girl made into a Katrina emoji, because that's my favourite emoji. I use the Spanish flamenco dancing emoji to indicate anything that's making me happy or high vibe or uplifted. So if you see that emoji, it could mean I just had an orgasm, it could mean I had a fabulous glass of wine, it could mean that something you said makes me feel happy in my heart like a little girl, it could mean that Brandon agreed to do a reality dating show, Who's Dating Brandon Marshall in Regan's hut in Bora Bora. Someone tag her in and advise her that that's what's happening and we're all coming. It could mean that, I don't know, what's something else that makes me happy. Just tell me. But that's what I want. I want my own Kat-moji that I can use on my actual posts that I put up on Facebook. Okay? Okay. Mim's on it everybody. She energetically agreed to it. I felt it in my soul. Hmm. Oh, Rich Hot Empire. Right, right right right right. If you're gonna work with me one on one, it's gonna be roughly like this, I'm sorry to tell you. I'm actually pretty fucking happy to tell you. It's gonna be random as fuck. I'm gonna give you all the boring strategies. They're not even boring because they're my strategies. Fuck systems unless they're my own systems that I created myself and then had to reverse engineer for you. Blah blah blah blah blah. Everything I do in my business, exactly how to do it. Blah. blah. blah. blah. blah. We send you the full overview on the message when you message me. Send me a message and we'll send you the whole overview. You'll know all about it. It's actually fucking amazing. But really, the truth is, of course it's amazing. You should see the frickin' results that come through from those programmes. That programme. It's only one programme. Those programmes maybe meaning multiple times when I've done it. Hang on, what's Regan saying here? She says "I had to go to Bora Bora because I basically had nowhere to go to until LA." It's obviously perfectly logical. And then, because I'm giving you the whole fucking how, and there is now how but yet I still give you a how. How? Because I'm magic, and because business and life is full of contradictions. Deal with it or get out of the game altogether, Batman, and whoever else you are. And then it means that we can actually do the real fucking work together, you and I, which is definitely gonna get into whatever shenanigans and random hilariousness that is required and desired, and it's pretty much always required and desired. But more relevantly, I suppose to the money plucking side of things, really what I'm about, really why my clients get such fucking fast results, holy shit it still blows my mind every time I get a boxer message or an update or this much money, or whatever it was, right? The reason is - do you know what the reason is? Does anybody know what the reason is? Hands up, emojis up, flying emojis, love hearts, all the things, and comment as well. Do you understand? Do you understand the reason that I get the results that I get? Do you understand? Do you understand that I need some more Batman juice? Can somebody answer this? Because if you can answer this, you know the meaning of everything. Everything. I'm gonna have to take you to the bathroom with me. It's the only thing for it. Why do they give these stupid tiny little glass bottles, do you think? You're only fitting like 330 millilitres of liquid in there, which is a stupid amount. Let's go to the bathroom. Inner game is always true Michelle. Always, always. Michelle was the first person to sign up. Check out this bling bling mosaic bathtub. I haven't even had a bath. Do you think I should finish the rest of the live stream ... Okay. Good. This is my ... that's Sarafina's bikini top. Sorry, Sarafina. This is my Bali gown. Okay. Hang on. Wait. Sick bath. I was like, the bath's not sick, what do you mean? This is what I wear when I lounge about with my Chianti, or whatever I happen to be drinking. Now Michelle said the inner game. Michelle was the first person to sign up for Rich Hot Empire for the April 30 round. She's right. It is all the inner game. But it's more than that. It's more than that completely. Do you know what the real reason is that I get the results that I get? Who else said that? Helen said, "I can't wait." She's gonna make it happen. Nobody else has answered, you guys. Give me the answers while I make my drink, and then we'll get in the bath altogether since you guys insisted. Nylisa, you know the answer to this for sure. It's also part of the reason why you lost weight when you did Rich Hot Empire, even though I never told you anything to do with anything about losing weight. Many people lose weight when they do Rich Hot Empire with me. Many, many. Reggie, did you lose weight when you worked with me one on one? Sorry, just gonna shout you out right there [inaudible 00:41:28]. Now, when we make the Batman juice, we put some apple cider vinegar in it. Oh why mate, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Straight away Lisa May. Alignment is part of it. There's a missing link. A missing link, you guys. Brandon, you're definitely all over this missing link. This is big part of it. It's a big part of it. It's a big part of it. You've still gotta fucking decide to make the money. You can't go around just in alignment and soul flow and a beautiful Balinese bathrobe and expecting the money to come to you if you don't just fucking ask for it. You may as well pick up the fricking phone to room service and order some money. But you just do it without the phone and without the room service bit. That's how I joke. Okay, you guys are all ... It's hilarious to me. I'm channelling Linda Doctor when I say hilarious like that, because when she says the word hilarious she says hilarious, and she drags it out. Rather like the way I do with the word fabulous. Okay. Let's make sure we did this up properly, otherwise it's gonna explode all over you. Done. I think I have more fun by myself than with anyone. I'm sorry to all the people who I love. Do I wanna be in this bath? That wall does not look good on me. The only way that I could be in the bath, you guys, is if I get the pillows and lay in the bath like so. But now I feel like I'm in a coffin. I mean, it's a beautiful, mosaic-y coffin. What aminos? Hang on. All right. Wait. We're going back to the bedroom. It's where all the fun happens anyway. Sometimes. This one. Blue raz. Not apple flavoured at all. I lied. It's from BSN, which is made by Optimum Nutrition. Basically, Optimum Nutrition just owns the marketplace. You guys, the missing link is fun. Obviously it's fun. I make business fun again. Do I? Do I make business fun again? Okay. Why was I not wearing this bathrobe the whole entire time? How rude. I am so sorry. I just noticed how amazing I fucking look. Clearly they designed this bathrobe and these walls specifically for me. Okay. Oh my god. I look incredible. I'm just gonna sit here and enjoy myself. No, I did that before. We talked about that. Okay. Fuck. I think I shook it too hard. I make business fun again. I've said that. Somebody on my team, write it down, write it down, write it down. Tell me you're there if you're on my team. What's happening right now? I'll see it. Write down subject title, send it to Ash, I make business fun again. Do you wanna know a secret? It's not a secret at all but apparently I have to tell everybody 14,000 million times before they fucking pay attention. Lucky I love you, right? When you're having hilarious, #lindadoctorchanneled, hilarious amounts of fun in your business and your life ... I'm so hot in this bathrobe, you guys. It's silk and lovely and I wanna keep it on for you, but it's frickin'' hot. Thank you Lisa. Camp mates. Tag Ashley in. Ash Gregory. Tag him in. He's not cavorting around the fucking Gold Cost with my mom and my sister like the rest of my family. Somebody's frickin' doing some work here. Clearly it's me. Imagine if this was work. Imagine you got paid to sit around in your bathtub and be Batman and talk about which Batman you would have sex with in Bali, laughing your ass off at your own hilariousness, talking with badass people online. Imagine if you could get paid for that, you guys. Just imagine. People wouldn't even believe it. They would think you were lying and then they would refuse to participate in such shenanigans. Imagine. Imagine you joined Rich Hot Empire and learned how to make business so fucking fun, where basically you do nothing. There's the flying Katrinas. Devil Katrinas. Imagine. Right? Howard says "I feel like I was destined for this job." Of course you were. You know it in your heart and your soul. This is so good. I'm gonna do a photo shoot lounging around like so with extra highlighter on. Extra. And I'm gonna have my legs like this. I'm gonna put oil on them. Or I'll not, let somebody else do it for me. And then I'm gonna take photos. Except probably not, because I fucking hate taking photos, and my whole team's grumpy at me because I never take enough photos. Kat-mojis flying. But I need the emoji to be in the screen where I can frickin' use it when I'm making a post, not just devil Kat-mojis flying across my live stream like little possessed angel demons. Totally queen. I am in queen mode right now. Thank you Lisa. Even without a phone. I'll take it. Frank Kern told me that if you want more people to watch you on a live stream you should have props, and then he said - and he was being a smart ass, because he already knows about my throne and my sceptre - he was teaching the whole group. He was like advising the whole group about how to get better engagement on their live streams. He said - the group of his private clients if you were wondering which group. There was eight of us. He said, for example, a throne and a sceptre. Then everybody looked at me and I was like, "That's right, bitches, I'm the A plus student. Already did it." There's many things I don't do that he tells me to do, because I'm not that good at following directions. But I'll do the throne thing, with or without the throne. So here I am. I am my own throne, and I got the booty to prove it. I built my booty up. It's like sitting on gloriousness. This morning I worked that bitch out hard. I was like frick. I did a six part circuit in the gym. If you wanna know about extra good booty stuff, I can't be bothered talking about it right now. But I did a fabulous exercise, which was like a squat and a lunge. Ooh, Linda's messaging me right now. Does she know we're talking about her? Hmm. I did a lunge, step down into a squat. I'll show you, fine. Since you insisted. Because this is a good exercise for when you're lazy. Hang on. Wait. Okay. It's very boring, but it works. It's very fantastic. Lung and then you go ... Okay. And then you go into a squat. Okay, wait. It's gonna be better like this. Lunge. And then into a squat. And you go down deep, you guys, deep. None of these bullshit squats that go down to there. What the fuck is that? You're not gonna work your ass like that. You're gonna get a little bit of leg work. You're gonna screw up your knees. That's what's gonna happen. You're gonna have a frickin' patella tracking issue out the wazoo. So you wanna go squat down deep enough that you can feel that ass working. Then you go to a lung. I don't know what's happening on this live stream, but I'm okay with it. I did many of them. I did some chin ups as well, because I'm fucking strong, you guys. Chinned my way up. Up and down. Up and down. Up and down. I did some shoulder presses, lateral raises, and reverse bicep curls, because when I do reverse bicep curls, makes me feel like a badass, because people are like, "What the fuck is that even?" And i was getting into the grunty territory as well. It was not necessarily pretty. Apparently I'm already out of breath from doing two fucking squats. Then I finished at the end with jumping squats. My legs are hurting me already. Okay. Why do I not do workout live streams? We could do this every day. Send me some devil Kat emojis if you want me to do workout live streams. Now we're going back to the bathrobe. We could do it any time. I'm sure I won't do it at all, because I hate to be told what to do, just so you know, so just warning you. I could do a whole workout live stream series. Did somebody send me angry faces now? What are you angry about? Are you angry that I stopped squatting? My legs are so sore, you guys. My ass is getting juicier by the day. By the day. All right. I'm gonna try and tell you about the receiving of the money thing. I'm trying. It's not really coming out. It's got nothing to with anything. In theory I was gonna finish this live stream at least 30 minutes ago because I was gonna go and eat. I've got some ... Where's my Batman juice? Fuck food. I love food. I didn't mean it. Sorry food. Okay, that's funny Reggie. All right, I do ... I'm gonna be really serious. Get your notebooks at the ready. I'm really frickin' hot though. Do it like this. No, it looks like I'm trying to be sensual. I am sensual, I don't have to try. Write that down for yourself. You don't have to write it down about me. I am sensual. I don't even have to try. No, you could write it down as an affirmation. I am body sensuality, sexuality, feminine energy. Or if you don't desire to embody feminine energy, maybe because you're masculine, but we each have each, just deal with it. But you could say I receive feminine essence. Why not. Or energy. Say whatever you frickin'' want. You don't need me to make your own affirmations up. Basically, the whole story is exactly what I said. I do teach structured shit. Again I'm getting bored talking about it, but it is actually fucking amazing, and I will send you all the details on Rich Hot Empire. If you desire to be part of that, you should message me on my personal Katrina Ruth page, the one with the flying emojis I think it is, I'm not sure. And then really what I do - the real fucking work that I do in my own heart and soul every day as well as for the hearts and souls of my clients is very, very simple. The real work ... Okay, I remembered. I had to drop into my soul to remember. The real work is dropping into your fucking soul. Maybe when you were a youngster, you liked to have fun. It's possible. I suppose I can't prove it, and I suppose you can't prove it either, unless we fucking show us who you are again at some point potentially. I help business be fun again. I help people make business fun again. I make business fun again. But fun is just one way. Fun, fucking flow, fucking source, frickin' energy connected to your super powers, being who you're originally meant to be. Who were you originally meant to be? Put it in the comments if you know who you were meant to be. Roughly, this would have been where you were five or six years old before you got all the shit piled atop of you that was telling you how you're meant to be and who you're meant to be. Who you were meant to be then before you bought into a story that you've gotta save the world, that you've gotta be a frickin' hero, that you've gotta prove yourself, that you need such and such bullshit to validate yourself before you can put yourself out there, whatever else. Who were you meant to be? Me? Storyteller and performer. I'm a five year old storyteller and performer at my soul, and that little girl is who I let out. That's why I make money. Period, the end. Boom. Lisa says entertainer. Well then entertain us, but apparently you already did, because you were talking about spanking on your live stream earlier. Everybody go check that out after this. You know, you know, you know, you know, you know all those fuckers can get fucking fucked with their ideas of how to make money online. It's such bullshit. Bestselling author. But then go even ... You wouldn't have said bestselling author. Maybe you would have at five. But what is the core of that underneath it? Because I would definitely say bestselling author as well, highly acclaimed speaker or whatever else. Rainbow unicorn, that was Helen, not me. Then I go one deeper than that. Like yes, I could say author, speaker, performer, or performer, performing in, like I'm kinda looking into what is the source of the source of the source that then could be translated into bestselling author for example. Messenger. Storyteller. Unleasher. If you were born to be a bestselling author, then what would you be if it was before books? Sorry. There's my foot. But look at my purple metallic toenails. Pretty good. Storyteller. Exactly. Because you could do that even before books were invented. It's gotta be something that we could have done born any point in time, you guys. Any point at time. Any point in time. At most of the points in time, I'm just gonna let you know, you did not need Facebook or advertising in order to get attention. You can use that shit if you want, but like whatever. The way that you're gonna make the money, the way that you're gonna have people follow you ... Chris was born to be purple. I like it a lot. The way that you're gonna make the money, the way you're gonna have people follow you, the way they're gonna buy all the things from you, the way they're gonna think you're random as fuck and hilarious. I feel like somebody just crept into the villa. I heard a rummaging noise. The way that that's gonna happen is your energy, just your energy. Just your energy. Just your energy. Nothing else. The essence of you. Can you please screenshot this? (silence) Okay, I trust 20 people got that screenshot. Send it to me. And now this one. (silence) There's one more. Two more. All right. Good. I'm annoyed about this though. I don't like that colour. Should be something that fits in with the rest of it. It's the energy, baby. You know, I think that there's many boring people out there who would come along to a live stream like this and they would be like, "This chick is off her head." Or they'd be grumpy at me, grumpy that they invested their 56 minutes and 43 seconds and I still didn't tell any strategies, which is the only way we can say the word, just to give some juice to the word, because the word's boring on its own self, isn't it? They would be grumpy and annoyed and resentful that I didn't say, "But this is how you make the money." But I think I just did a beautiful live demonstration of it. Did I not? Did I yes? I believe I did. I think you get my point. What if you just showed people who you are and who you were always meant to be? That'd be a revolutionary fucking concept, wouldn't it? What if you just told people nothing at all? What if you didn't tell them anything? What if you just opened your mouth, your heart, your soul, and let the goodness and the madness ... Okay, I feel like you should get this one as well. Okay, I don't care about that. And the goodness and the madness flowed out. And then what if, what if, what if you achieved some shit in your life already at this point, no doubt, right? And you actually frickin' owned that shit for once. And then you just frickin' reverse engineered it. It would be less boring than just ... More boring, I mean, than just carrying on and being random as fuck like this. But actually, people want, and it's nice to give people, like, "Hey, here's how I did what I frickin' did. Here's how I fucking launch. I give you, this is how I launched for my Rich Hot Empire. This is how I make a programme. This is how we sell the programme. This is how I build my following. This is how to build a low right through to high, a multi seven figure in by doing what you love. Blah blah blah. I do actually have systems and strategy. I never made them up though. Nope. Just created them along the way with a lot of frickin' trial and error and not nearly enough fun for a good part of it, which is probably what took me so long. Then I can now reverse engineer it for you. Write it down. Kind of and be fucked writing it down most of the time, so just do a Facebook live stream, have more fun talking about it. And/or audio it to my team and make them transcribe it. That's how I do much of my content, just so you know, because I cannot be fucked writing down shit except for I only write like 10,000 words a day of other random shit. But that's just what bubbles up. Anyway. And then you're like, "Cool, here's my thing, I'll give you my thing," because people are in somewhat of a fear based mindset when they come to work with you and they're like, "We want the thing, we wanna know the thing, so you give them the thing." And then you just basically dance and float freely through a meadow, or a pool, or whatever's around, or you put a bathrobe on, and you just be yourself, and you be a living, breathing example of the fact that actually, actually, actually, actually, you're enough just being you. So there. There's nothing else you gotta ad to be of interest to the people. You want people to follow, you want people to buy, you want people to do what you tell them to do, you want Batman to send you a message. Best solution to all of that. You wanna find soulmate people in your life? Clients, friends, lovers, massage therapists, whatever else that you desire on a soulmate person level. Gonna tell you the best strategy for that. Be yourself. That' show you get the people that wanna be in your life, whether they're people who are paying you, or you're paying them, or it's just energy exchange, or whatever the fuck it is. It's all just energy exchange anyway, right? We're already enough as we are. The problem is, if you don't fucking show them who you are, they're very unlikely to know. Just a little reminder for you, right? They're very unlikely to know. I had to give myself a lot of permission a lot of times all along the way to gradually get to a point where I can just sit here and fuck around for an hour and be silly and random and funny and just be myself. It was just like the vibe that came out of me today, which would have happened with or without you guys, so you're welcome that I turned a camera on, otherwise yes I would be sitting here in my villa by myself doing this entire performance, just for myself. Or I'd probably be doing some version of it over audios to my friends or something like that, right? I had to repeatedly give myself permission to let myself be all that I am, but also be enough just only solely being who I am and realise that being all that I am and just who I am is enough, and also that I must let all of that out, not just some filtered part of it, and that actually just being me, just being me, just being me, nothing else added, not worrying about am I giving value, not worrying about am I covering good content, not worrying about am I fucking teaching something. Just being me is the damn value, right? It's done. I showed up, I was myself, you got some fucking value from it, and now we can all go to lunch. That's the whole entire story. What time is it? Do I even have time to eat? 1:24. Probably gonna take me like 10 to 15 minutes to get my ass up to Sea Circus up there, order the food, it's gonna take them 10 minutes minimum to make it, and then I have a phone call 10 minutes after that. I can eat while I talk on the phone though. Or maybe I'm high on life and I don't need to eat. What do you think? Maybe I'm being fed from my soul right now. I should go get a tan by the pool instead of eating. You think? Maybe they can bring me some food there, and then I can do my calls by the pool. The problem is I want this particular choc fudge smoothie that they've got just up the road there. What time am I supposed to pick up my children? I feel like we're going down a tangent of I should be finishing the livestream already. Okay. Now you can read the pinned comment. Message me about Rich Hot Empire. We're gonna do all the things. I'm gonna teach you all the things. We're gonna have all the fun. I'm gonna show you how to access soul, flow, and fun, and everything that's inside of you, and then expel it to the world. That's it. Don't forget. Life is down. Press play.

How you guys doing? How you guys doing? That intro, I love my intro. I think it's awesome, but I want to switch it up here sometimes. It's stuck in my head all the time. Hey, I got up pretty early. I love getting up early. I get up at about 4 o'clock when I can. My perfect day gets me up at 4 o'clock, which means I have to go to bed like 10:00. That's totally fine, but I was getting up, and I built this gym in our third car garage. I love lifting. Lifting is a ton of fun. I love it because it's a competition with myself. I didn't realize it, but my wife also got up at the same time, and she was just on our living room on the other side of the garage door inside the house. I was lifting pretty heavy, and I was trying to beat some records and goals and stuff like that. I was really pushing myself hard, and I was dead lifting. Dead lifting is my favorite lift. After you deadlift like super hard, like stuff kind of gets a little bit hazy in your vision, which is pretty normal. People are known to slightly black out a little bit. Not like in a bad way or anything, but you're like, "Steven, how does that sound? Where's the good way?" I was like yelling, like screaming and stuff. I didn't realize that she was on the other side, and she thought I was hurt. She got all scared and nervous and everything and I was like I was killing a babe. Like what, yeah. Anyway, hey guys, I'm excited for today. It's pretty early still. I'm excited for this week. I've been planning out my weeks really intensely before the week actually happens, and it's been amazing what it's been doing for my day. I hope that you guys are doing that as well. There's so much purpose, there's so much clarity on everything I need to get doing. Today one of the things I'm going to be doing is I'm going through ... A lot of you guys might know, if it's your first episode here, just know that this podcast has been documenting me creating and launching my Secret MLM Hacks course, Secret MLM Hacks product. We had about 37 people join us during the launch, which is great. Tons of people applied to join my downline, which is a lot of fun, which invigorates everyone else. Keeps everyone else moving and things like that. I'm getting an average of one to two people per day asking to join my downline, which is hilarious. I don't reach out to anybody. I don't do any of the face to face stuff very much. You know what's funny? I was talking to some of the people though like, "Awesome. Now what do you say face to face?" I'm like, "You know what? I kind of solved my own problem. I really don't talk about it at all face to face with anybody." I don't know. The subheadline for the thing was how do to X, Y and Z without friends and family even knowing that I'm in MLM and that's true. I think my parents and my family kind of know-ish that I'm in I, but not really. I think they think it's not like a real thing, or I don't know. I don't know, but that's the whole point. That's the reason I built these systems was to solve my own pain, and it's been working, and it's great. That's why I built the product to show everyone what I was doing as well. It's not a pitchfest. I don't show anyone. I don't even tell anybody what MLM I'm in, but it's been a lot of fun. Today what I'm building now or what I'm finishing is about three or four months, I did the first draft of the workbook that goes with the course. It's fantastic. It's fabulous. I love workbooks. About four years ago, three, four years ago ... Excuse me. I'm getting over a cold again, but about three or four years ago, I was going through this workbook. Actually I've got it right over here called DotComSecrets Ignite. It's a workbook. It's not like it's huge or anything, but I went page by page by page through it about four years ago. When it said, "Hey, do this, this and this," I did not move on until I did it. When it said, "Now do X, Y and Z," I did X, Y and Z and I did not move on until I had those things done. It was in the middle of college and I was hiding literally in the basketball stadium box office seats. I think I've told you guys this before. I would hide up there. I didn't have money really to get into the thing I wanted to. What I did is I went through that workbook literally page by page by page by page, and I planned out everything that it said. I did everything it said to do. When it was time for me to launch, I had all my ducks in a row. I knew where things were going. It made me answer the hard questions. How are you going to find people? How are you going to sell? What's the sell point? All that stuff. Where's the traffic coming from? What's cool is that it helped me apply everything that was being taught in a video course. I've set it up slightly the same way. I tend to think when I get someone's course ... I buy a lot of people's courses and got books all around me. I love studying. I love learning. I tend to think like hey, I'm going to through this entire massive thing. I'm going to go through all of it. Just watch it all in one shot and then I'll see what I want to do after that. It never works that way though. There's always so much stuff. I'm sure you guys have all done this. You read a book and you're like, "Oh my gosh. That was great. I should go apply that." You're like, "Well, I'll keep reading." You forget about it, right? There's a really, really great TED Talk by Mel Robbins. Mel Robbins is fantastic. She talks about The 5 Second Rule. The 5 Second Rule basically says look, if you have an idea, if you've got that thought that pops in your head and says, "I should do X, Y and Z," right, if you don't act on it in five seconds, it's gone. Right? Your head pulls the emergency break. Your head says, "You know what? There's too much risk involved with that." Even if there isn't, your head starts to find and search for a risk for it so that you feel justified and not doing it. Does that make sense? The whole point of what I'm trying to say right here is that I kept thinking it through, I got the first draft of this workbook back and it looks fantastic. It's so cool. Oh my gosh. I'm so excited for it. Anyway, it's going to help a whole bunch of people. Apply my course and actually get the stuff done so that they're not stuck in this like learning cycle. I talked about that a little while ago too, but so they're not stuck in the learning cycle. I'm excited to actually get this thing out there, but I'm going through and I'm making edits. One of the things in here talks about relationship creating. Now I know a lot of people call it relationship marketing or other things besides MLM, which kind of makes me laugh a little bit. MLM. MLM. I talk about relationships and not in a way that I think people really think about it. What you do in here though is you list out a whole bunch of people that you wish were in your downline or who were buying from you or specifically the people who have lists of the people that you wish you could sell to. Right? You got two ways to really go about this MLM thing. Okay? This is what I want to talk about today. There's really two ways to go about this MLM thing. The first way is the way that it's traditionally taught. There's nothing wrong with it, but it takes forever. The other way is more of the way that I do it, which gets people applying to join my downline which is amazing. Then I give everyone in my downline those same systems so they can keep duplicating. Anyway, there's really two ways to go about it. The first way, okay, imagine this. I used to go backpacking a lot. I grew up in Littleton, Colorado, which is like right between Denver and the mountains. I mean I was skiing since I was five. Skied like crazy. Tons of skiing. Lots of backpacking. Lots of outdoor stuff. I absolute love that kind of stuff. I haven't been able to do as much of that lately, but I still love it. I remember there was a summer we went on a three week backpacking trip. It was this three week backpacking trip and I remember that like two weeks in, we get to this spot where we were planning on resupplying our water at this creek. We get to the creek and everyone's tired. After two weeks, your legs are kind of broken in. You don't really feel it as much anymore. It's really those first like three or four days that kind of hurt a little bit. Then after that you're like, "Okay." Just like anything, there's growing pains at first and then you kind of get to a spot where your body adapts or like anything else, your brain adapts so you figure out how to solve the problem, whatever it is. Backpacking taught me a lot of stuff about life and business. Anyway, we get to this spot after two weeks in. We get to this spot where we're going to go refill up our water and there's no water. The creek is totally dried up. Totally dried up. We were like, "Oh, crap. We still have 48 hours before we're going to go waltz into camp." It's actually kind of a dangerous situation. We pooled all of our water together and everyone threw the rest of the water that they had together in this circle. We kind of rationed the water out the remaining 36, 48 hours, which might sound like hey, you can be okay, but when it's high altitude like that, your brain goes a little bit weird when it doesn't have a lot of water. You start to not necessarily hallucinate, but you can. It starts to mess with you. We were really high up, when you are dropping a lot of elevation to get down to the camp where we would like resupply. I think we went home for like a day or two and then we went back out for another week. There was a lot of us. There's probably like 15, 16 of us. It was one of my favorite memories ever. Do you think that we stood there and started digging for water? No. No. Is that the most efficient thing to do to sit there and start digging for water right there? No. Why? It would take forever. Right? Wouldn't it be better just to pull a map out and go find out where the existing water is and walk to that water? Ah, Steven. Oh, thank you so much. Here's the lesson of it, here's the lesson of the whole thing is when you go and you start talking to family members and friends who do not have a preexisting disposition to buy into MLM or your product, you are digging for water where it does not exist. It's not to say that you won't find it. In fact, a lot of people do, but my word. For me I hate doing that way. I got to sift through a lot of rocks, a lot of weeds, a lot of boulders on the way to find the few spots of water that hopefully will create more water for me and I eventually can retire. You know what I mean? It's way better for me to just go and find existing streams. Way better. Right? If I have to go and I even have to pay a toll to some river owner, right, that's totally worth it. It's still going to be more effective and efficient for me to go do that than me to actually start right there. I could even go to a swamp and just start digging. Guess what? That's some nasty water right there. You don't necessarily need that kind of water. Go find the water that's already moving. The water that's already in motion. The water that is already in motion. The water that's already going. The water does not depend on you to move it. Right? Has anyone ever drank stagnant water that you filtered? Holy crap. That is nasty crap. Hopefully you're starting to get the analogy here. Rather than me going and starting to dig water where there once was water, I don't care if even it used to be the Mississippi, if it's not there, go find it. Right? Move with it. Shift happens. I'm not a swearer, but I actually caught that. Shift happens. Okay? Anyway, it's better for me to just go find who already owns the ... I could go find a river source that nobody owns or I might go find a river source that somebody does own and I have to pay a little bit of homage to. Pay a little bit of fee to. Maybe a relationship for to actually gain access to. I treat MLM the exact same way. Okay? The exact same way. I'm not going to go to the places where I'm going to have to dig and hunt and search and find and track and trap and trick and go and say, "Oh my gosh. This is what you need. You have to have this. You need this. You need this." First of all, if anyone needs my thing, they're already not a good candidate for me. I am looking for people who are already in motion. People already moving. I want the people that are sometimes hard to get the attention of because they're so active in their life. That's the kind of person that I want. Right? That's the kind of person you should want. Right? That's exactly what I teach my downline to do is how do you find those kinds of people and how to do you become attractive in a way so that they start coming to you, right, rather than you going and tricking, trapping and tracking. That's my three T thing I guess. I don't know. I kind of made it up on the spot, but I kind of like it. It's sticking. Does that make sense? What I do is in this workbook is I go and I help people identify where the existing river sources are and then what you do to court and slightly date the river owner, right, because you might not own that river. You might not be the first one who found the river. If you're not, which chances are you're not, right, you might have to either pay some homage to that person or whatever it is. Let's think of Facebook for example. Right? The way I see people digging for water in Facebook is they'll go around and they'll start ... Man, if my wife gets invited to another party, it's someone's house party, I swear she's going to snap one day. She gets invited to so many house parties and she is not in MLM at all. That's people digging for water where there once might have been water, but there's not water. Going on Facebook and posting a whole bunch of stuff like "I'm working from home today" or they're posting selfies of them in the gym. "Working from the gym today." It's like really? Really? You're working from the gym? I saw somebody come out the woodwork and say, "Hey. Oh man. I'm so excited. I made $30 this month from my MLM. That paid for our diapers." I was like man, you've been in that MLM for three years and you're just barely paying for diapers? Something is wrong. Wake up. Something is up. I'm not saying it's not effective and I'm not making fun of anybody. In any other business, in any other scenario, in any other industry, right, people would call that not necessarily a success. Right? People wouldn't necessarily go to the people who didn't want to have their product in the first place. I am never, ever, ever going to be in the market for a pink Volkswagen or probably any Volkswagen. Don't try to sell me one. I don't have a preexisting disposition towards it. How do you find the rivers of the people who already have a preexisting disposition towards MLM? How do find those people? How do you get attracted to them? Solve that problem and my friends, you get one to two people asking to join your downline a day. I solved that problem. It took me a while. I certainly figured out how to not do it. There's a lot of times I failed, but eventually I turned on the spicket and I was like, "Holy crap. It's working. My word. Check this out." That's what Secret MLM Hacks is all about. With this workbook though, what I'm having people do is identify where the existing streams of traffic are. Let's take another Facebook example. Right? Mark Zuckerberg's done a great job creating existing streams of traffic on Facebook. Right? It's better for me to go pay ads and target people who have that preexisting disposition towards MLM rather than just digging randomly in these random spots. Right? Mark Zuckerberg created the traffic for me. I know where people are hanging out. I know where they are. Right? I know how to put ads in front of those people and get their attention and get them to ask to join. Like how interesting? Right? Interesting concept there. If you do it the other way around where you're like digging, man, that's like ... Tell me. Tell me that you have not felt burnt out before doing that game. Again I'm not making fun of it. I know there are people that get great success out of it. That's awesome, but I'm not willing to put like 10 years of work into something before I start to see a return. I'm not willing to do that. I'm not willing to do that and I'm fine being open about that. I will not do that. There is definitely a better way and I found the way and I've been doing that way. Does that make sense? I hope that there's been some epiphanies with this that going and posting on Facebook all over the place, that's not a bad thing to do. Man, if that's you're only strategy, you are digging in places where there is not currently water and you're trying to dig deep enough with a belief that there is some. Eventually sometimes guys it's just easy enough to just throw the towel and say, "You know what? There's got to be a better way," and you start figuring out, "Yeah. You know what? You're right. You're right. That makes sense." Anyway, I hope that makes sense. I know that people have reached out before and they'll be like, "Steven, that's so cool. What you do is really, really hard though." I'm like it's actually not. I think that's the part that's been the most shocking to me. It's actually have been way easier than I thought it was going to be. I thought it was going to be a lot harder. Now I had to go through a lot of stuff to get to this spot and that's part of what my course teaches. It's what did work so you can shortcut all of that. Right? It's what did go through and help people or help me actually get success with it. Right? It's not like it's been a one hit wonder. It's still going. It's still running in the background 24/7, 365. It's just running in the back. It's been fun to be able to have that. There's a quote. When I get up in the morning, a lot of times I like to listen to these different inspirational videos on YouTube and things like that. I love that. I love that stuff. Anytime there's like a quote that really hits me hard, I actually write it on a legal piece of paper and I thumbtack it to my wall. In front of my wall or like in front of me right now, I got pieces of paper thumbtacked all over the place. I got a big massive wall calendar, but then there's thumbtacks all over the place. Sometimes it's a white piece of paper that I grab. Sometimes it's yellow. It's like this white-yellow mural on my wall in front of me right now. There's one on here that I look at a lot. It says, "If you do what is easy, your life will be hard." Isn't that interesting? "If you do what is easy, your life will be hard." Folks, go ahead and start trying to craft into your life growth experiences. If you've been digging because you don't know any other method of getting people, just take a chance and understand that there are other ways to get this done. There are other ways. If you start looking at what the top MLMers are actually doing, I guarantee you they're not digging in random spots. They're not sitting around going, "Hey. Hey. Hopefully this works. Hopefully this works." They're usually not doing home or hotel meetings. Okay? That's what they teach everyone else. We become their lead gen. Does that make sense? It's a stark reality. It's a harsh reality. One that I feel like a lot of people don't ... Anyway, I'm sorry if I'm the one that's like bursting the bubble on that, but start looking around. Understand what's going on. Start modeling them or model my stuff or take my course or whatever it is. Just understand that there are other ways to do this game. Anyway, that's all I got for you guys. I'm editing this section in the workbook. I got the first section back or the first edition back and I love it. It's so amazing. There's some tweaks and different things I got to go switch or fit and update and things like that. Then I am shipping it out to everybody who got the thing, who got Secret MLM Hacks. I'll ship it out to them. They get a physical copy and they also get a digital one. Then my plea is that they go page by page by page. You know what's funny is the first workbook that I actually filled out, that DotComSecrets one, guess which business I was planning? This one. What's funny is I did never expect that I would go work for Russell Brunson. I never expected that I would go do X, Y and Z. There's all these different detours, but I learned everything I needed to on the way to actually pull off what I planned in that original workbook. I take workbooks very seriously. There's something about stopping and thinking and pondering and writing by hand your answers to what you're going to go be doing in your life. Anyway, I'm excited about it. I'm going to get this thing edited up and then shipped on out to the people who just bought it. Anyway, this is not a pitchfest, but if you're interested, go to SecretMLMHacks.com and that's kind of where you can ... There's a free web class you can go check out there and get started and join our crew. We call ourselves the MLM Mavericks because we break rules. All right, guys. I'll talk to you later. Bye. Hey, thanks for listening. Please remember to subscribe and leave feedback for me. Do you have a question you want answered live on the show? Go to SecretMLMHacksRadio.com to submit your question and download your free MLM Masters Pack.

My name is Steve Larson and welcome to Secret MLM Hacks Radio. I'm a goofball at heart. I'm a kid at heart and I will always be that way. Hey, hope you guys are doing fantastic. Hope you're crushing the week. Hope everything is going great for you right now. Hey, so I just finished something and I think you'll be interested in. I have talked about it previously in a previous episode. I wanted to tell you that my version of it is done and it's exciting. It's so cool. I am not here to pitch anyone. That's not the purpose of this podcast. The purpose of this podcast is for me to show you what I've been doing so you can do it in your own; your own MLM. If you want to join, awesome. If you wanna stay in what you're doing, awesome. I don't care. I'm just bringing that because it's an elephant in the room sometimes when you're talking to other MLM-ers so I'm just bringing it up. I don't care whether or not you join. This is not a pitch fest. What this is, is it's me feeling a slight obligation to showing you what it is that I've been doing for the last little while, because it's working very well. So, that's what this whole thing is about. What I wanted to show you is how I get people to apply to join my down line. You should have little bombs dropping in your head right now. This is insane. In other coaching programs ... Like I have other coaching programs that I do, you know, that I charge money for to look at people's internet sales funnels. Right? The way that they sell stuff. I go through and I critique them with them. There's so many requests I have now to build them, that I actually don't. I just go for straight coaching and I teach people. It's been a lot of fun. I've had a lot of great success stories, helped a lot of businesses. It's been great. I'm also, what's called, a 'two comma club' coach. Two commas meaning million dollars. Meaning I coach people how to go from zero to seven figures. It's a lot of fun. This is a strategy that we use in many different scenarios, in many different industries. Okay? The strategy is that you, rather than go to somebody ... Yeah, okay. We'll go it this way. Rather than go to somebody and say, "Hey, will you buy my thing?" Instead, what we get people to do is we get people to turn and ask us to buy it from us by applying to buy it. Does that make sense? It's the craziest thing. It flips the entire sale on the head. It keeps you from begging people to ... Anyway. There are many people using this right now that are making many millions of dollars per year using it. It's crazy. It's amazing what it does for people. Here's how it works. Let's think about this with MLM. Let's say that you go and you are teaching people all about your MLM and it's awesome. You get down to that really awkward point where you start to transition into pitching. You know, it's the spot where everyone gets awkward in usually. You start pitching people to join your down line. What are you doing? You are asking people to do something they were not thinking about doing that day. Now that's fine. That works. That was my job at door to door sales. When you do that to someone like a friend or a family member, that's when crap gets awkward because they were not inviting you to pitch them. Does that make sense? That's why it gets weird. That's why it gets weird. It's a status protection play. They wanna make sure they're protecting their own status. And again, not in a bad way as in like, "Oh I'm so good," or whatever, but that's not it at all. They're just trying to make sure their own status is covered because they're like, "I don't know. Can you handle this? Have you been doing well? Am I your first person? Has other people joined? What's the comp plan like? How many people do I have to recruit to actually make a difference in my income?" You know what I mean? Those are all the fear questions that pop up inside someone's head when you start to pitch them. So what we do is I flip it. We turn it on its head and instead of you going to them and saying, "Hey ... Instead of you going to them and saying, "Hey join my thing," instead what we do is we flip it and we say, "Why should I let you join my thing?" What? It's crazy, but that's how it works. So we switch the whole thing and say, "Why should we let you into our world?" Basically it's hilarious that it works because you're saying, "Why should I let you pay me your money," but it works. It works very well. If someone has to apply for something ... You do the same thing if you go to college. Right? If you went to college, it's ... When I went to college I paid to apply to pay them tuition. Same concept. How do you get someone to do that, because that's kind of intense? So the way that we do it ... Now this is usually really cold traffic, like someone who has no idea who you are, usually that doesn't work very well for them. You gotta have things before they apply for you, you know apply to you, in order to kind of warm them up so that they answer the other questions, which is like, "Who are yeah?" You know. "Do I trust you? Do you seem shady?" You know what I mean? They wanna see who you are. So I use this funnel, the sales funnel, this application funnel. I use it online mostly to my hot and my warm traffic list. Now you guys all have hot and warm markets that's ... and you all have hot and warm traffic and you know usually in the form of family members and friends. I don't pitch family members and friends. You know most of them don't even know that I'm doing this. Only the people that have asked, right, know that I'm doing this stuff. Or people who've ... Family, immediate or extended, who've stumbled on my podcast will talk to me about that kind of stuff, but I don't tell any of them about it. None of them have any idea what I do. None of them. They don't know at all what I do, and I do that on purpose, because the first time I join and MLM they all knew, because I was that guy and I hated that. I was becoming that guy at family reunions and stuff. So what I do is I first go get results for somebody else. That's huge. That might mean that you go work for free. In fact, it probably will. If you've never gotten results for someone else before ever, you're gonna have some issues. Okay? Then what I do is I document those stories of those individual people and I litter those video testimonials all over the front page and I tell what's called my origin story. My origin story is all about me telling the story about how I got into the thing I'm doing. "Steve Larson, how did you get into this MLM thing?" Well and I've told you that before. There's a reason that was my episode number 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. I went through five different stories that I went through to help you continue to break and rebuild your own belief patterns about MLM. Those stories were very crafted very on purpose; those first five episodes of this podcast. Those are the stories that I tell when I'm in my application funnel. Does that make sense? That's the very first thing. So first, there's the story of me. You know I'm telling people, "Hey look, you know here's how to get into this thing and why I'm so passionate about it." It has to be highly emotional. Not that you're trying to trick people or be sneaky or whatever it is, but have you ever been in a movie and you walked out and thought "That was a dumb movie." That's because there's no emotion. There's no conflict. It was all action. There's no ups and downs, pauses, and speed forwards. There's none of that stuff. There's an art to storytelling, so figure out how to tell your story. Why are you doing MLM? Ask yourself that. Why are you doing this? Do you wanna be doing it? Someone pull you into it? You trying to make passive income? What is it? After you figure out what the reason is, what's the real reason? Dive deeper. Does that make sense? So, that's the first ... it's a video of me telling that story. When they opt in, in order to apply on the second page what I do with them is I have them fill out an application form. It's an actual application. It's on the right side of the page. They're filling out the application. On the left side of the page I just have a huge string of very nice testimonials people have shot about working with me, and the program, and things like that. It's like 15 minutes of just constant videos, and testimonials, and other cool stories and things like that. It's awesome. Anyway, you guys will see it. It's really cool. On the right side though is an actual application. What I do is I ask questions like, "Look, I'm really looking for the top marketers. Not just MLM-ers. I'm looking for marketers. Are you a marketer? What's your plan to promote this if you get accepted?" Right? That's ridiculous. That's huge to even ask something like that. "What's your plan to be able to ... Are you gonna spend money on ads?" You know that's gonna affect your ability to get in at all. I just need to know. Who's actually gonna be spending the ads? Who's actually gonna be spending the money? "How many people have you recruited in the past? How many opportunities have you jumped around through in the past?" It goes through somewhat of a history and it's to do two things. It's kind of meant to rub a little bit of salt on the wound to help them realize what they have had to go through to get there. Sometimes those are painful memories and experiences. Then the other I'm trying to do is I'm trying to get them to tell me why I should accept them. I want fighters. I want competitors. I don't want the person who needs the opportunity. Oh they need this opportunity and this life. If they need the opportunity I already don't want them. It's not that I'm being mean, but the reason I don't want them is because they don't want it. Does that make sense? If they need the opportunity and want it, sure. Then I'll join them or you know I'll get them in and that's awesome. I am not in the business of begging and I am not in the business of hand holding so much so that I have to actually get someone to have passion. I hand hold all my people, but it's because they already want it and they've been pushing for it. I can see that they do things on their own and they're not looking to me solely. I give them the systems. I teach them how to use the systems and it's awesome. I get a great relationship with my people and it's so fun. I really, really enjoy it. I have a lot of projects in my life. I don't need a person as a project. Does that make sense? I want people to be part of my one project. Does that make sense? So anyways I have people apply and it's cool to see live ones coming in right now. Then on the third page, what I do is I say, "You know what? Your application is in the order that we're getting them and in MLM order does matter, because there could be a lot of people behind you who are applying right now. There's a lot of people ahead of you. So if you wanna skip the line, just go ahead and call us." Now I do not put scheduling software on there. That always kills conversions anytime we've ever done that in any market. We did this for a visa service. Like visas coming into America. It was really interesting. We've done it for a lot of stuff and they work. It's great. If you put a scheduling software on that third page, or in that third step, or anywhere in your process, whatever you're doing, it won't work very well. You need to give them the option to call you. Then what would we do is we would just put a sales person on the end who used what we called the four question close. They just call and it's very, very, very low pressure. That is one of the biggest keys to this whole thing. That's one of the easiest ways to find people who are serious, is that you can't have pressure. Okay? So that's how the structure looks of the entire thing. Number one, an origin story about how I got in there. Number two, lots of testimonials while they fill out the application. Number three, I invite them to call me so they can get out of the line and skip and actually get in. So how do I get someone to really do that though? What I do is I take my MLM and I make an offer out of it. How many MLM down lines could you go join right now? Tons. There's no difference between any of us, if you leave it that way. So one of my specialties and my actual job is offer creation. I go create offers. Well a product is not an offer. A service is not an offer, by itself. Does that make sense? It may not at first, let me just keep talking here. If you're just asking me to join your down line, that's not an offer. Offers makes you someone unique. Offers create scarcity and urgency. Okay? Offers get someone else excited about what it is you're doing, because they realize that you're the only one that's actually doing that? Does that make sense? So here's what I do is I take my MLM and then I see what other things I can stack on there to make the act of joining my MLM attractive and unique again. Okay? If you're in an industry at all ... Let's say you have normal 9 to 5 job still, or something like that. If you're in industry at all and other people are doing the exact same thing that your company is, how you gonna do? Competition is great, but if you're selling the same thing, I'm saying the same exact thing as your competitor, how you gonna do? It's gonna suck. Right? A lot of the market is going to be going back and forth. There's gonna be a lot of questions. There's gonna be no tribe building in your area, because someone is doing the exact same thing over there. So what I do is I make the act of joining my down line into an offer. I turn it into and offer and so I remind them that like, "Look if you join my down line, I'm gonna give you all of my automated recruiting systems. Okay? If you join my down line, I'm giving you all my story telling scripts that are not high pressure. Right? If you join my down line, I'll go and I'll give you more of my traffic secrets training." Does that make sense? How to actually get traffic, things like that. "If you join my down line, I'm gonna give you some ..." I haven't told anyone this yet, but there's a piece of software I'm trying to create to help people as well. "I'll teach you how to attract people to you, both you as a person and little mini products that you create in front of your MLM to pull people to you for free. By the way I'll teach you how to get them to pay you for paid prospecting. I'll teach you how to auto-close. I'll teach you how to down line management, the only strategy I know where everyone gets paid anytime anyone gets recruited. You don't have to play favorites anymore when you recruit people." Does that make sense? Those are the things that I do on the front page and I remind them like, "Look, if you apply to join and you actually get in, you're not just getting my down line. You're getting all these other things to help you be successful." The biggest question people have when they're gonna join a down line is, "Where am I gonna find people? Where are my leads gonna come from? I don't wanna talk to friends and family." And so what I've dedicated the last like several years to is answering that question. Solving that problem so that when people do join the down line, I have the answer. I launch the beta of it a year ago. It's actually over a year ago and it's freaking awesome and it worked so well. It's so awesome and it works. It's cool. Like oh my gosh. So I've been teaching others how to do it. I've got my own little beta group that's been going through it and it's been a lot of fun. So anyway, if you wanna check it out, you can. What I ask is that you don't put your email in unless you're actually applying to join my down line. Does that make sense? And that is where I'm telling you right now, that I am not here to pitch you and I am not here to ask you to come in. I'm not. Look, part of my strategy with this podcast, with this whole thing, is for me to remain somewhat third party. Okay? I'm not here ... This podcast is all about me showing you and telling you what I'm doing. This is not where I'm here to just pitch you like crazy. That's not what this is about. I'm not doing this. I'm not gonna do that at all. So if you go to JoinMyDownLine.com, which by the way I can't believe that was available. That's like the biggest over site in the whole industry. JoinMyDownLine.com is the example. It's the actual thing that I use to get people to join and actually apply to get in. Please don't go past the first page. Again I'm telling you so that you can go see what I'm doing. If you wanna see what my origin story is. If you opt in, there will be a little bit of a series that comes to you; a really cool course. That's kind of an extra course not many have seen. It's just for those who are applying that help people. It's called the MLM Primer. It comes to them for free for like five days and then there's a whole bunch of really cool stories with it. Anyway, the reason why I'm telling you is so that you can model the same thing in your own MLM. It's not so ... So I mean if you go through the entire application process, I will ... Number one, your application, your name will show up on the front page, which is awesome. You'll see the live feed updates every five minutes. It just shows your first name to prove to people that it's not dead. You know what I mean? This version of it is brand new launched and that feed thing is brand new launched, so there might not be ... there's not gonna be as many people ... I just got an email from a dude asking to bring in 200 people. Anyway, that kind of stuff happens all the time and so I'm just saying that live feed does not directly reflect the only source of people coming in. Anyway, if you want to see it, meaning how I'm doing it, go for it. I'm asking you not to go through the entire thing, you know, unless you're actually applying. I thought I'd bring all that out though, because I can't not do it. It's the elephant in the room with this thing, is that people have asked like, "You just do this podcast to recruit tons of people?" No, I'm actually trying to build a tribe and a movement. I wanna fix some of the crappy parts of MLM. I'm very passionate about it. It ticks me off that the strategies are still stuck in the 90's. How on Earth am I the only one using a sales funnel in the whole industry? How on Earth are no up lines teaching this kind of stuff to their down lines? You know what I mean? That's the kind of stuff that kind of makes me a little bit mad. It's like, "Holy smokes, while the companies have evolved, the strategies have not." That's like us going to war and using Civil War, stand in front of the other person in a straight line, tactics. That's dumb. So anyway, I'm very passionate about it as you can tell as I just ... That's what this whole thing is about. So if you want to see it, like I said, don't go through the whole thing unless you are literally applying to do so, but you can definitely go check out the front page. You can watch my real story of how I got into this whole thing. You can see cool testimonials of other people. You can see the live feed thing that I'm talking about. This big project, this version of it, took me a little while to finish it up, but that's partly what I've been doing the last few weeks here also. Anyway, you guys are awesome. Appreciate yeah. Figure out a way to flip the tides. If you're like, "There's no way someone will apply to join my down line," well the reason why is because you've gotten results for nobody yet. That make sense? So get results for someone. Go help someone. Work for free. Pump value into the market and then the market will tell you, "Oh yeah here's a cool testimonial," in the form of a person giving it to you. They'll give you a testimonial and you'll be worth so much more, because people will see that you're actually worth stuff. It's way, way worse for you to just walk out and go, "I'm the man. Trust me. I'm the man." You know what I mean? That's what that is. Instead, show people. Go get the actual results and work for people and help them get results. Put that video up there. If people don't wanna join your down line, it's because you haven't answered those questions yet. It's because you haven't proven that you're good. Anyway, that's all I've got for you guys. That was way longer than I anticipated it to be, but if you wanna check it out you can. It's JoinMyDownLine.com and that's how I'm pulling it off. Figure out how you wanna pull it off on your own. Again, I'm asking you not to apply there fully unless you're actually applying. You're all awesome and go crush it. Hope what you're doing in your MLM is awesome, super fun, that it's effective. You feel like it's worth your time; what it is you're actually doing. Yeah, go crush it guys. Talk to you later. Hey thanks for listening. Please remember to subscribe and leave feedback. Would you like me to teach your own down line five simple MLM recruiting tips for free? If so, go download you're free MLM Masters Pack by subscribing to this podcast at Secret MLMHacksRadio.com.

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