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Charlie is back. 6-7. Afrin. A 16-year-old stepbrother is under investigation for the death of hi stepsister while on a Carnival cruise. Krystle's brother was arrested. Rover and Duji argue over the price of going on a cruise. Elon Musk's shoes. Charlie says, 'the bigger foot the more masculine you are.' Work will be optional in the future. Elon Musk claims that robots will follow criminals around to prevent them from committing crimes. During the Miss Universe preliminary competition Ms. Jamaica took a hard tumble. Rover is fascinated by Nazi Germany. Hitler is said to have had a micro penis. The Golden State Killer also had a micro penis. Has Rover seen his father in law's penis? Charlie wants to see a micro penis in person. Charlie received two strange phone calls from a co-worker. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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In the summer of 1969, the San Francisco Chronicle received a letter that would ignite one of the most infamous investigations in American history. Inside was a chilling confession, a cryptic cipher, and the signature that would terrify the nation: a circle with a cross through it. T We trace every confirmed attack, beginning with the Lake Herman Road murders of teenage sweethearts David Faraday and Betty Lou Jensen—an ambush that seemed random until the killer later claimed it as his own. From there, we follow the trail to Blue Rock Springs, where Darlene Ferrin was killed and Michael Mageau survived a barrage of gunfire—and the eerie phone call that linked both crimes in the killer's own voice.We dive into the ciphers that made this case legendary: the first three-part code cracked by a schoolteacher and his wife, and the 340-character cipher solved over fifty years later.These messages revealed the killer's delusions, obsessions, and desire to terrorize an entire region. We also break down the horrifying daylight attack at Lake Berryessa, where Bryan Hartnell survived a knife assault from a hooded figure wearing the iconic crossed-circle emblem. Then we move into Presidio Heights, where cab driver Paul Stine's murder and a devastating miscommunication allowed police to unknowingly let the Zodiac walk right past them. We explore dozens of letters and cards sent to newspapers, including threats against school buses and claims of dozens more victims. This correspondence became the Zodiac's greatest weapon—psychological warfare that spread fear across Northern California.We examone the massive multi-agency manhunt, forensic clues from footprints to partial prints to modern DNA extraction, and the long list of suspects: Arthur Leigh Allen, Rick Marshall, Lawrence Kane, Ross Sullivan, and more—each compelling, each flawed, none ever confirmed.We also cover unconfirmed cases like Cheri Jo Bates and Donna Lass, as well as modern developments from DNA profiling to the controversial Case Breakers announcement.We discuss whether genetic genealogy may one day identify the killer—as it did in the Golden State Killer case—and why recent results remain sealed.Beyond the crimes, we look at the cultural footprint: how the Zodiac case reshaped criminal investigation, inspired countless books and films, and created a vast community of amateur sleuths still searching for answers.At the center of this story are the victims—Betty Lou Jensen, David Faraday, Darlene Ferrin, Cecelia Shepard, and Paul Stine—whose lives and futures were stolen by a killer who turned murder into a game.It's the story of a case that transformed American true crime, a mystery that refuses to die, and a shadow that still lingers over the Bay Area more than fifty years later. The Zodiac sought immortality—and in a grim sense, he found it.The case remains open.The cipher is not fully solved.And somewhere, the key to this mystery is still waiting to be discovered.
Garrett Schumacher is Business Unit Director of Product Security at Velentium Medical and the co-founder and CTO of GeneInfoSec. Garrett discusses his journey from medical student to cybersecurity expert and educator, dedicating his career to securing medical devices. He shares insights on the intersection of cybersecurity and healthcare, highlighting the challenges of protecting genetic data. Garrett gives honest advice about navigating cybersecurity and data privacy concerns, how to be a good leader, and what medtech startups should consider as they design and develop their devices. Guest links: https://velentiummedical.com/ | https://www.geneinfosec.com/ Charity supported: Save the Children Interested in being a guest on the show or have feedback to share? Email us at theleadingdifference@velentium.com. PRODUCTION CREDITS Host & Editor: Lindsey Dinneen Producer: Velentium Medical EPISODE TRANSCRIPT Episode 068 - Garrett Schumacher [00:00:00] Lindsey Dinneen: Hi, I'm Lindsey and I'm talking with MedTech industry leaders on how they change lives for a better world. [00:00:09] Diane Bouis: The inventions and technologies are fascinating and so are the people who work with them. [00:00:15] Frank Jaskulke: There was a period of time where I realized, fundamentally, my job was to go hang out with really smart people that are saving lives and then do work that would help them save more lives. [00:00:28] Diane Bouis: I got into the business to save lives and it is incredibly motivating to work with people who are in that same business, saving or improving lives. [00:00:38] Duane Mancini: What better industry than where I get to wake up every day and just save people's lives. [00:00:42] Lindsey Dinneen: These are extraordinary people doing extraordinary work, and this is The Leading Difference. Hello and welcome back to another episode of the Leading Difference Podcast. I'm your host, Lindsey, and today I am excited to introduce you to my guest, Garrett Schumacher. Garrett is the Business Unit Director of Product Security at Velentium Medical, where he has led the cybersecurity efforts on 200 plus medical device products and systems. He is the co-founder and CTO of GeneInfoSec, a startup focused on securing the world's most valuable and private data, our genetic information. In his work, Garrett has trained engineers, developers, manufacturers, healthcare delivery organizations, and laboratories across the globe in cybersecurity, and is an active member of several related industry working groups. He also teaches secure product development and medical device cybersecurity at the graduate level for the University of Colorado Boulder's Department of Computer Science as an adjunct professor in the little bit of time left in his days, Garrett is either rock climbing or spending time with family. Thank you so much for being here, Garrett. I'm so excited to speak with you today. [00:01:48] Garrett Schumacher: Yeah. Thank you for having me. [00:01:49] Lindsey Dinneen: Of course. Well, I'd love, if you wouldn't mind, by starting out and sharing a little bit about yourself and your background and what led you to medtech. [00:01:59] Garrett Schumacher: Yeah. So I guess my background, I mean, it started as I always thought I was gonna be a doctor. I did my undergrad in physiology, thought I was gonna do med school, the whole nine yards. And towards the end of my, let's say junior year, just started being like, "I don't think this is what I want to do." I always had a fascination with tech. I was really involved with a lot of the tech groups on campus at the University of Colorado Boulder, early days of Hack CU, one of the largest collegiate hackathons. And I really regretted not doing a computer science degree, but I was three quarters of the way done. So sometimes you just gotta finish it up, right? Get the degree, find out what's next. After that I went and did a master's in genetics. I wasn't sure exactly what I wanted to do either yet, but hey, a master's degree is not a bad thing to do if you're unsure. And actually I was in a PhD program and dropped out early with a master's. Different story. But yeah. And then I started I helped the University of Colorado Boulder start their cybersecurity programs. So it was getting into the cyber world. I did a, I guess it was a bootcamp, at the University of Denver in cybersecurity. And so that all culminated in me always focusing on healthcare and cybersecurity together. And then COVID happened and that made the world change for a lot of people. And basically I was looking for a new job and I found Velentium, and I think that's where it really spoke to me, where I could do my love of medical and human health with cybersecurity and technology development. And so yeah, I think that's really how I got into it. I had been doing projects related to that before, but Velentium's where it really culminated and I found a place that let me do all the things I love, not just one or the other. [00:03:39] Lindsey Dinneen: That's awesome and such a wonderful gift. So can you share a little bit about what you do now and sort of your growth trajectory even throughout Velentium 'cause I know you've had quite an interesting and exciting career through the company as well. [00:03:56] Garrett Schumacher: Yeah. Yeah. So I started out as a cybersecurity engineer, and just started helping internal projects, external projects with groups that were seeking FDA approval on a medical device and trying to navigate these kind of new cybersecurity requirements. That's where it started. And even since then I've been, so I teach a class at the University of Colorado Boulder on Medical Device Cybersecurity. We're going into our sixth year of that, seventh semester, starting here in the fall. And I also co-founded a startup in the genetic information security space. So, and we can talk about that later. And so I, yeah, talk about what I do. It's all of those things and, it's not, doesn't happen in 40 hours, I promise you that. But after working as a cyber engineer for about a year, I think I got promoted to like Senior Staff Cybersecurity Engineer. Then probably three years ago, I took over more of an operational leadership role within the unit, the team, where I was doing project management and overseeing the other engineers and still doing engineering work. Definitely decided project management is not for the faint of heart and apparently my heart's very faint. It's not for me. So anyways, and then fast forward to just here in like January, February, Velentium made some really awesome changes. They rebranded as Velentium Medical to make sure everyone knew we do medical. And then they created four business units so that they could really say, "Look, we have different core areas of our business. Each of them have their own different operational needs and what have you." So, I was promoted into Business Unit Director of Product Security. And so now we're a business unit. We're a business within a business trying to better serve our clients and implement the processes we need for our small scope of work compared to a large contract development and manufacturing organization. So just that's been my growth goal so far is, come in as an engineer, work my way up to the leadership roles while also still loving to be an educator and and still having my own startup space in the biotech side of the house. [00:05:58] Lindsey Dinneen: Yeah. Excellent. Well, first of all, congratulations on all of that. That is very exciting and it's really fun to see that growth and that development. And I'm also so curious now, can we talk a little bit about your startup? So first of all, let's talk about that and then I wanna talk about the crossover between the two, if that's okay. So. [00:06:16] Garrett Schumacher: Absolutely. Yeah. So, well the name is GeneInfoSec, so it's just short for genetic information security. We're not trying to hide anything there. We focus on protecting the world's most sensitive data. At least that's our opinion is genetic information affects you. And the data you have today is not gonna be any different, for the most part, from the data that you have in, 10, 20, 40 years. But then even beyond that it's partially your children's data, your grandchildren, great-grandchildren, and then even on the, in the inverse, all the way up to your great-great-grandparents, right? You share some, to an extent, some genetic makeup with them. And so it's this really interesting space where networked privacy is-- it's a very different form of networked privacy. It's not just that I upload a photo to LinkedIn and now I could be implicating someone else that's in the photo. It's, I share my info, and I'm also sharing info that belongs to my cousins in, in, in a sense. And so if you think of the Golden State Killer case in California, that was a really interesting one where the federal authorities had genetic information or samples from a cold case in the eighties. And they sequenced that. They uploaded it to a third party, an open public genetic database, and said, "Hey, here's my data. Who am I related to?" And through that they were able to triangulate like, "Okay here it is. This is the guy that did it" many years later. So, there's a case where it's, there could be positives. We want to use it to find that kind of information and protect people. But at the same time, that brings up a lot of privacy implications. And then you can go all the way to the extreme, the sci-fi of designer bio weapons, maybe tailored to certain persons or ethnicities or groups of people. So during grad school, a couple guys and I, we founded this startup, and that's what we focus on through a technology that really our founder, Dr. Sterling Sawaya, he invented, called molecular encryption. It's a way of encrypting molecules before we generate data from them so that the generated genetic data is already, quote unquote encrypted, or at least protected in some manner. So, so that's what we do. And yeah, I guess why we do it a bit. [00:08:27] Lindsey Dinneen: Yeah. Wow. So, okay, so that brings up a really interesting question. I can guess the answer to this, but is there any safe way to-- this is a funny way to put it-- but recreationally to test your genetic data in the sense of the way that a lot of us would think about it in terms of, "Oh, I'd really love to learn more about my ancestors and things like that." But there are so many security concerns, like you've pointed out. So is there any quote unquote, safe way to do so at this time? [00:08:58] Garrett Schumacher: You know that-- it's a great question. There's been a lot of things going on in the news recently, like with, I'm sure people have heard of 23 & Me, and how they went bankrupt and now a company called Regeneron is buying them and all their assets for a lot of money, but not that much compared to what 23 & Me was worth a few years ago. So that brings up a lot of issues, right? 23 & Me still owns a lot of samples, like maybe around 10 million samples. And the sequencing they've been doing is very small. So if your genome's a whole book, they've been kind of flipping through the pages and picking specific letters, and that's the data they have. So that's not the most sensitive, it's not the full story. But if you have the samples, you can always generate the full book someday. And as that cost of full human genome sequencing decreases rapidly, someone's probably gonna want to do that someday. So, okay, so back to your question though, is there a safe way? What I would say is that I, I don't tell people not to do it. I would say if you have health reasons, concerns, and your doctor suggests a genetic test, a lot of those tests are also that similar, picking a few letters, a few known letters and trying to just read that for a very specific purpose. If your doctor and you come to the agreement that you should do that, you should just do that. However, I do not promote, and even to my family members, I highly don't recommend, using these services. I used to really love who's that group out of Utah? Ancestry.com. They used to be a great group. They were trying to sequence the world's DNA for understanding basically the family tree of everyone. Because anyways, they have interest in understanding who's related to who and how that relates to their religion. So they used to do it for internal purposes, keep it on pretty tight, secure. Well then, they sold to a venture capital group. So, it's really tough to say that there's these groups that there's a good place out there to do it. There are some companies that have security or privacy focused DNA sequencing services. But it's really odd, like you have to set up a cryptocurrency account, pay with cryptocurrency, set up a PO box so that you're not like actually shipping to and from your home. And then ultimately the price of it and how they're getting it to be cost effective is China's doing the sequencing. So you do all those privacy measures and your sample gets sent off to another country. And the FBI has disclosed that they know that when certain countries like that are doing the sequencing, whether you want them to do a little tiny test, like a COVID test or whatever it is, they're sequencing the whole thing. They're keeping the data. This is known, disclosed, not conjecture. So, yeah, so sorry-- long-winded answer of saying, I'm interested too, I wanna learn about this. I've got family members that have done it. But right now I recommend just thinking very carefully and critically about whether the immediate fun of it is worth the potential long-term impacts, and maybe if you're someone that's security or privacy conscious, maybe wait a few years because there are some things on the horizon that will make this a lot better. [00:12:02] Lindsey Dinneen: All right! Thank you for the honest answer. I really appreciate it. So, okay, I wanna go back to your work with Velentium specifically and talk about-- you've gotten to work with so many different clients over the years and you've seen so many different variations on a theme. And I'm curious, what are some of the common mistakes or pitfalls you might see a younger startup make when they are perhaps first designing their device, and cybersecurity is maybe not quite top of mind. So what are some of the things that you see that are challenges we can overcome? [00:12:41] Garrett Schumacher: Yeah I think one of the biggest challenges is that a lot of people aren't maybe aware yet of the scrutiny and the requirements that the FDA-- and not just FDA, but the European union's medical device regulations and the bodies over there that review submissions. And any, if you look across the board, pretty much almost every regulatory market has, very much in the last couple years, placed a lot of scrutiny on cybersecurity. So a lot of companies, especially smaller ones starting out in the space, may not be aware of this. And so then oftentimes they'll find out too late, they'll submit. They'll get feedback back, "Oh no, we have 90 days to respond and we didn't do cyber. We gotta do cyber now." And they don't know how to spell it yet, which is a joke. But there's that. And then there's also, or they'll get in just late at the game, "Hey, we're submitting in a month or three" and "Oh, we gotta do this thing retroactively." And so then therefore, we haven't been able to support someone through the full process, at the proper time, doing the right design things to inform the design during the design, not after. So I think that's probably the biggest mistake is not seeking that external support early and often. And if you're getting that, it shouldn't just be someone that can help you navigate the regulatory space. It shouldn't be someone that can just do the pen testing for you at the end. Really I think in that context, you need a partner that can do everything end to end. So that's what we've really tried to make our processes and our services geared towards is being that partner. And whether you have the bandwidth and you will do a lot of the documentation and work, but you just need someone to guide you, consult you, give you the materials to do so, or if you are truly looking for, no, we need to augment our own team and have you do a lot more of the work for us. That's great. We can do that. So, so that's, I think, the biggest challenge. And I think that the answer is just getting the right partner early and working with them often throughout that entire development, not at the end. [00:14:37] Lindsey Dinneen: Yeah, absolutely. And I really appreciate that perspective. I think that there's a lot more awareness, it seems like even in the industry that, "Oh, cybersecurity is a thing now." But as you said, getting to partner with somebody who does know the ins and outs from the start and can really help guide you through is really critical. Now you do quite a bit of speaking and presenting. You're obviously still teaching a college class and all of those wonderful things. I'm curious how that has played into your career as well, and is that something that you will always want to do? You've got this educator side of you as well. [00:15:13] Garrett Schumacher: Yeah, I mean, I love it. I actually taught at a high school for one year between my master's program and my undergraduate, decided that that's not for me, but that teaching at those higher levels where people are really wanting to be in the room. So now I teach at the graduate level, half of the students will be older than me. And now everybody wants to be there and we can have very mature conversations and they even can challenge me with some really great questions that I'm not ready for, right? And I think the best way to learn is to teach. Absolutely. That's, yeah. I think a lot of people have said that. I completely agree. So I plan to always do that. I mean, I love, even with our internal engineers and external clients, like the idea of helping people understand something and humanizing it for 'em. That's really my big flag I'm waving right now is humanizing it. We don't have to use alphabet soups and crazy language. We can make it easy to understand and we can humanize it for the masses. So that's really what I'm trying to do, one of my big pushes. And so I don't foresee myself ever going away from that, I even do a lot of international training on the cyber biosecurity space where I go to all these countries and these biosafety laboratories and help biologists understand cybersecurity as a fundamental practice and how they can improve their personal security, their professional security. And to me that's the most rewarding thing. [00:16:36] Lindsey Dinneen: Yeah. Oh my goodness. That's so cool. Thank you for sharing about that. So, as you are looking towards the future in the industry itself, but also I suppose your own career, what are some things that you're excited about? What are some trends that you see as being positive? I know that, recently, it's been a little bit challenging-- as a nice word-- for a lot of medical device companies and they're a little worried about funding and those kinds of things, and so, that's maybe a trend that's a little not as fun, but what are the things that are empowering and exciting to you as we move forward? [00:17:13] Garrett Schumacher: So not to make it about artificial intelligence or machine learning, 'cause everybody does. It's definitely, its hype curve. But that is actually one of the things that I think I'm most excited about, but also most scared about. We've seen a lot of companies with layoffs because they believe this artificial intelligence enables them to be more efficient and therefore they can do more with fewer people. And that saves money. And I understand that. I think that one of my big pushes right now is trying to help people understand that AI, at least right now, it's not taking over human jobs-- that it can instead augment, improve how we do those jobs. But people have to be ready for it. So even in, in my own space, like, making sure that our team and our people are ready for that. Because if you aren't getting into that space, if you aren't with the curve, then you're gonna fall behind. And yes, you could be replaced in that sense that someone has done it and so now they're doing it better than you. And so if you're not using these tools, these resources to, to improve your efficiency and to just maximize your capability-- like for example, my team, maybe I don't need to hire a person. Maybe we can build out things that enable us to, with the same amount of people, to better serve more clientele. So that's what I'm really trying to navigate. But it is scary thinking about that future and am I even gonna be ready and technically savvy enough to navigate that new future in the next year, in the next five, 10 years. And especially as someone who I've always had this, this goal of maybe someday, and I'm getting talked out of it very quickly, but maybe like being a Chief Information Security Officer at a large company or a Chief Product Security Officer, something like that. And yeah, quickly, I'm-- "Eh, we'll see." But it's those kind of things that, if we can navigate them correctly, may maybe that is something in my future. So that's, I think, one of my big fears and also passion projects right now. And then also, same on that funding vein-- with my startup, we're experiencing that as well. And we actually, we had a lot of funding potential pre COVID. And then even though our technology-- like in some ways COVID brought the need for our technology to the forefront of people's minds-- it also killed a lot of funding opportunity. And so yeah, I mean, navigating that space of how do you get funding and then does it come from venture capital backed or equity, private equity, and I've seen those worlds. I even advise startups. So I mean, that is also probably one of the biggest challenges I'm facing currently as well. [00:19:41] Lindsey Dinneen: Yeah. Yeah. It's gonna be really interesting to see how things evolve, and it's been fascinating to read the news and see even the headlines where it's like, the FDA is using AI to review submissions and all sorts of things, and you really do wonder how we'll move forward and time will tell, I suppose. [00:20:01] Garrett Schumacher: Yeah. [00:20:02] Lindsey Dinneen: So you have stepped into quite a number of leadership roles fairly young in your career, if you don't mind me just saying so, and so I'm curious how you have navigated that growth for yourself. First of all, do you feel like you were a natural leader or were those skills things you developed along the way? And secondly, what advice might you have for younger leaders? [00:20:27] Garrett Schumacher: Great questions. Yeah, definitely nothing is natural about it. I think for anyone, I mean, it's nothing that you just do and you're just like, "Yep, I'm a leader. That's easy." So it definitely something, just like all aspects of work and maturity, is you have to work on it. But I think how I got there was-- and someone told me a couple tips early in my career, I suppose-- and it was a couple are: find a mentor, and as the mentee you have to put in the effort. If you set up meetings and they're not there, whatever, like they're busy, and you are asking them to give their time for you. So, find mentors and then be a good mentee, meet up with them. I had several people that were critical in my early career. One was Bunky Davis and she was amazing. She was no longer with us, but her and I grabbed coffee every single month. She had navigated biotech startups for like 50 years, was also just a phenomenal cyclist, Olympian, like just amazing. And we'd meet up every month for coffee without missing. And we did that for several years. And, and I had another mentor from the University of Colorado Boulder, Lloyd Thrall, who came from the Department of Defense, and just a spectacular, stellar guy, and we would go meet up all the time. And so learning from these people I think I saw-- well, there's that. And then everybody has their bosses and their horror stories from work, whether that's a high school job or professional later on. And so you see the ways that people can be, you don't want to be. And so that, that makes it easy. But without having those mentors, yeah, I don't know if I would've exposed myself to the good ways, right, and the better ways, and be challenged. So that was really critical was finding a good mentor and then being a good mentee. And then I think the other thing is interacting with people and just listening, active listening. So going to the professional shows and meeting people, listening to them, reading a lot of great books out there on how to be a leader, and you don't take all that exactly word for word, but there are golden little nuggets that you can just pick up out of all those things. So, no, definitely something that I have actively worked on and still am trying to work on. And then I'm constantly trying to listen and being that, have that open door policy for my people too. Because if I hire really smart people, I want them to do the thinking and therefore I need to listen. [00:22:44] Lindsey Dinneen: There you go. I love it. All right, so. You've had a really interesting and exciting career so far, and you're obviously very passionate about medtech and cybersecurity and biotech and all those things, and I'm wondering if along the way there are any moments that really stand out to you as affirming, "Wow, I am in the right place at the right time." [00:23:09] Garrett Schumacher: Yeah. Yeah. One was we had a really special project where and I won't give any names away, but basically my stepmother has an implant inside of her and it's it's not life sustaining, but it's one that you want working just so that your body's working normally, and so that you're not, not embarrassed. You can go into public spaces and be a normal person, right? And whether it's pain management, incontinence, those kind of things. So she had this implant and it was, she had one that came from the leading provider of that at the time. And it, the battery life, right, is supposed to last like 10 or 15 years, and it seemed like pretty much seven or eight was all she was getting out of it. And after decades of having far more surgeries than she needed, all the way up to the very last device she got in her-- it failed within the first year, I think-- so it was like, okay, time to pivot. And we found this new company and they've become a huge leader in the space, recently acquired by another one of the big leaders in medtech in general. And we were hired to do the security work for that project. And the only reason that I actually found out-- because my stepmother was literally like in the process of getting this new device inside of her-- I was at that client's facility doing a pen testing and security testing engagement and some consulting and just visiting them. And I FaceTimed my family in the break room and there was a sign behind me and they're like, "Oh my gosh. We're literally, we just got that implanted in your stepmother like, a couple weeks ago. It's working great. She's so happy with it. It's smaller, it works better, all these things." And it's like, "Wow." So I got to lead the security effort and what they're actually doing is adding remote programming capabilities so a doctor can, over the phone, be improving that therapy for you. But that leads to a lot of cybersecurity implications, right? That kind of connectivity. And so I gotta lead the security work on that for something that is in a near and dear, your family member. And it's those kind of things where it's not, you're not just helping patients. It's, I'm helping someone that I care very deeply about. And it hits home differently when it's not just, "Oh, I want this device to be secure. I want them to get FDA clearance. I want whatever." It's, "No, I need now, I need for my own family member for it to be the best." And it's not that project got special scrutiny from us-- we bring that to every project-- but it helps to have the actual experience of one of those projects. [00:25:33] Lindsey Dinneen: Yeah. And to have that real-- well, you were mentioning it-- not just patients that I kept thinking, "Yeah. Not just patients, people," and the idea of it's sometimes probably necessary honestly, to have a little bit of separation from a clinical point of, "I'm helping all of these patients, and that's a really good thing." But then if you could take a step back and go, "And these patients are human beings that rely on what I'm doing for safety and for security and for this lifesaving, life enhancing device." That's-- what a gift to get to experience something like that. [00:26:04] Garrett Schumacher: It is, it's especially like, if you work in the diabetes-- we've had several projects with insulin pumps-- and insulin's a drug that is, highly toxic if given in the wrong dosage. 99% of the world population would die if it's in the wrong dosage if it's too high. And the only reason the other 1% exist is 'cause they're insulin intolerant. They just, they don't respond to insulin and that's why they have their own type of diabetic issues. And I've got several cousins, a brother-in-law, that also use that stuff every day, rely on those kind of technologies. So, yeah, just it's a little bit more special when it's when you get to do that. But we try to do that for everyone. We try to think of everyone's that person that we're trying to help. [00:26:42] Lindsey Dinneen: Yeah, absolutely. All right. Well, this has been so great, but pivoting the conversation a little bit, just for fun. Imagine that you were to be offered a million dollars to teach a masterclass on anything you want. What would you choose to teach and why? [00:26:59] Garrett Schumacher: Ooh. Well, yeah, first of all, a million dollars for-- I feel like I, I'd have to go with something like that I know deeply, very deeply on. But okay, if I wanna have some fun here, I would say rock climbing, because rock climbing is my other big passion. It's the one thing that takes me away from a computer screen typically. And so if you're paying me a million dollars to teach rock climbing, A, these people really wanna learn how to be good rock climbers, so they're gonna be very engaged. And B, that's going to mean that I can go now actually make money on something that has only ever been a passion for me. So, that would be fun. That would be awesome. [00:27:33] Lindsey Dinneen: Awesome. [00:27:33] Garrett Schumacher: If you're offering, Lindsey, I'll accept. [00:27:35] Lindsey Dinneen: Okay, deal, right? Yeah. I'm gonna have to earn my first million first, and then I'll let you know. [00:27:40] Garrett Schumacher: I'll wait. [00:27:41] Lindsey Dinneen: Okay, fair? Fair enough. What got you into rock climbing? [00:27:45] Garrett Schumacher: Oh man. Well, so my mother was, I grew up in like a small farming town in the northeast corner of Colorado. There's not a mountain for, until you get to Denver area, right? In the summers, she worked at the local college, and in the summers she ran the ropes course and they had a giant rock wall. So, I mean, as a 10-year-old, I'm just hanging out there. I didn't know that there was routes or certain ways or techniques. I just, who can get up the fastest, right? But that was always fun. That was my summers. I always, and I was, shoot, I was always told I was a monkey. I was always on stuff climbing something. I've had my share of injuries from it, trust me. And then in college, it just was natural. I went to CU Boulder, as I've probably already said, and a lot of outdoor climbing opportunities. A lot of, they, they built a new gym there inside the school. And so that then it became this thing where, oh, I can actually-- as you move away from high school sports, basketball and American football and those things, you miss that. You can miss some competitiveness and some team-based things. So now I had another active thing that I could-- and I, again, I wasn't so formal in technique or things like that-- so now I could work with people, socialize and work on that technique in something that I was able to do at that level, instead of, I'm not gonna go beat myself up playing football again. So, yeah, I think that's where it came from. And then it's just been my big hobby ever since. And I mean, now I have a bunch of friends down in Austin, Texas, and we go on a big climbing trip once a year, and I see them once a year. It's fun. So it's like expanded my friend group and it keeps me sane. [00:29:14] Lindsey Dinneen: Huh. Excellent. Yes. That's wonderful. All right. How do you wish to be remembered after you leave this world? [00:29:22] Garrett Schumacher: Oh, that's a good one. How do you humbly answer that? When part of the answer I would wanna say is humble, but that's something I always try to work on, is I just wanna be a good guy. I want people to remember that, he was kind, considerate-- would do something at the drop of a hat for you without expecting anything in return-- just kind, generous. And I think a family guy would be a big one. My, my friends and family first and foremost. And maybe second to that, hardworking. Yeah. [00:29:46] Lindsey Dinneen: Yeah. I love that. All right. And final question. What is one thing that makes you smile every time you see or think about it? [00:29:55] Garrett Schumacher: Oh, my wife. I wake up to her every day and that's she's the best part about everything. So yeah, she's my favorite person, and I'm lucky enough to, when I'm not traveling, wake up next to her and see her at night, and that's the best part. [00:30:08] Lindsey Dinneen: Yeah, absolutely. What a wonderful thing. Well, this has been a fantastic conversation, Garrett. I'm so thankful for your time today. Thank you for sharing some of your stories, some of your advice. And I just honestly wish you the most continued success as you work to change lives for a better world. [00:30:26] Garrett Schumacher: Thank you. Thank you, Lindsey, for having me. This was my first podcast ever. So it went great. Yeah, it was fine. [00:30:32] Lindsey Dinneen: Awesome. You rocked it. Good job. That's wonderful. All right, well, celebrating that and celebrating all your future successes to come. We are so honored to be making a donation on your behalf as a thank you for your time today to Save the Children, which works to end the cycle of poverty by ensuring communities have the resources to provide children with a healthy, educational, and safe environment. So thank you so much for choosing that charity to support, and thank you so much for being here and thank you for doing what you do. [00:31:05] Garrett Schumacher: Thank you. [00:31:07] Lindsey Dinneen: Excellent, and thank you also to our listeners for tuning in, and if you're feeling as inspired as I am, I'd love it if you'd share this episode with a colleague or two and we'll catch you next time. [00:31:19] Dan Purvis: The Leading Difference is brought to you by Velentium Medical. Velentium Medical is a full service CDMO, serving medtech clients worldwide to securely design, manufacture, and test class two and class three medical devices. 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This week tin foil hats are ON BABY. We discuss the wild conspiracy theory that Britney Spears was a government asset to create diversions away from Bush's presidential corruption and scandal (pretty convincing evidence if you ask us). Plus, Diddy got caught drinking booze in jail, the Prince Andrew situation is unraveling, and we learn way too much about the Golden State Killer's nether regions.
“Can a serial killer's motive really come down to… a micro penis?” That's the jaw-dropping question Kevin “KT” Turner throws at Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, and Krystina Ray in this darkly fascinating—and wildly funny—episode of The Ben and Skin Show.KT takes us deep into the twisted story of Joseph D'Angelo, the Golden State Killer, whose decades-long reign of terror included 10 murders and over 50 assaults before DNA technology finally brought him down. But the shocking twist? A new book claims his crimes may have been fueled by what KT calls “tiny peen energy.” The crew dives into bizarre details like police photographers struggling to capture evidence (“There's nothing there!”) and measurements that will leave you speechless: “Smaller than the circumference of a dime, and the length of a pinky tip.”
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Hello to our lovely coven, happy Wednesday! We are thrilled, honored, gooped and gagged, because our guest today is THE Georgia Hardstark from My Favorite Murder! The trio dive into the origins of MFM (including Karen's intro song), share their own spooky experiences, and of course, chat about all of your favorite true crime cases. Georgia talks about working with Karen Kilgariff, her husband Vince and their love story, and touches on the wildest cold cases like the Yogurt Shop Murders and the Idaho 4. Basically, this is a Disrespectfully x MFM dream collab that you do NOT want to miss! XO In need of something cute and cozy for the fall? Get yourself or whoever's on your daddy list a tee, hoodie, or beanie from our store! Please support our show and show off your love for Disrespectfully by repping our official gear :) K Love ya bye! 00:00 - We are hungover :) 00:50 - Hi Georgia! 01:50 - Starting My Favorite Murder and our own Scary Heauxmetowns 06:30 - Monster Series and True Crime Shows 09:25 - Green River Killer 11:20 - Ann Rule and Ted Bundy 13:25 - Quince 14:50 - Mint Mobile 16:00 - Georgia and Vince 20:00 - Oasis and Casa Vega 21:50 - Starting and Maintaining MFM with Karen 24:40 - Horror Movies and Paranormal Experiences 27:40 - Karen making the MFM Intro song 29:10 - Cases we love - Serial 32:40 - Cases we love - Karen Reed 34:10 - Cases we love - Idaho 4 38:40 - The Ted Bundy of the Valley 41:20 - Cases we love - Jonbenet Ramsey 43:50 - Cases we love - The Golden State Killer 45:45 - Cases we love - Amy Lynn Bradley 47:10 - Perelel 48:50 - Cold Cases - Yogurt Shop Murders 50:35 - Cases we love - Amanda Knox 52:50 - Catfished Documentary 55:30 - Different Flavors of Parenting 1:00:00 - Colin Farrell and the Illuminati 1:03:25 - MFM Touring, Live Shows, and Closing Thoughts Thank you to our sponsors! Quince: Go to https://Quince.com/disrespectfully for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Mint Mobile: Get premium wireless for $15 a month at https://MintMobile.com/DISRESPECTFULLY Perelel: Exclusive for our listeners, new customers can enjoy 20% off their first order with code DISRESPECTFULLY at https://perelelhealth.com Connect with the Coven! Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1930451457469874 Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/disrespectfullypod/ Listen to us on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/disrespectfully/id1516710301 Listen to us on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0J6DW1KeDX6SpoVEuQpl7z?si=c35995a56b8d4038 Follow us on Social! Disrespectfully Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/disrespectfullypod Disrespectfully Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@disrespectfullypod Katie Maloney Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/musickillskate Dayna Kathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/daynakathan Leah Glouberman Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leahgsilberstein Allison Klemes Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/allisonklemes/ Buy our merch! https://disrespectfullypod.com/ Disrespectfully is an Envy Media Production.
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In The People vs. the Golden State Killer, Thien Ho, the current District Attorney of Sacramento, recounts his harrowing and exhilarating experience as the lead prosecutor responsible for capturing and prosecuting Joseph DeAngelo. Referred to at various times by law enforcement and the media as the Visalia Ransacker, the East Bay Rapist, the Original Nightstalker, and finally the Golden State Killer, DeAngelo, a former policeman, is widely considered “one of the most notorious serial predators in American history.”Ho's book is the first official account of how the Golden State Killer was apprehended and put behind bars for life. Ho led an elite team of law enforcement from six California prosecutor's offices, using a newly developed tool known as “investigative genetic genealogy” to connect DeAngelo to multiple cold cases stretching back nearly a half century.Many previous narratives about DeAngelo, including two bestselling books and multiple documentaries, focused largely on the killer and his heinous crimes. This book not only provides hundreds of facts and details never revealed to the public about the Golden State Killer's crimes, it also presents the real-life story of the people who worked tirelessly to bring DeAngelo to justice. It also offers the unprecedented authorized perspective of three survivors of DeAngelo's crimes who courageously turned their pain into empowerment and activism. A portion of the book's proceeds will be donated both by the author and Third State Books to Phyllis's Garden, a nonprofit advocating for victims' rights begun in honor of a GSK survivor.The People vs. the Golden State Killer also recounts Ho's fascinating personal journey, from escaping communist Vietnam with his family as a child to working his way up from an internship to an elite homicide division and eventually becoming one of only ten Asian American district attorneys out of 2,400 nationwide.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/houseofmysteryradio. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In The People vs. the Golden State Killer, Thien Ho, the current District Attorney of Sacramento, recounts his harrowing and exhilarating experience as the lead prosecutor responsible for capturing and prosecuting Joseph DeAngelo. Referred to at various times by law enforcement and the media as the Visalia Ransacker, the East Bay Rapist, the Original Nightstalker, and finally the Golden State Killer, DeAngelo, a former policeman, is widely considered “one of the most notorious serial predators in American history.Ho's book is the first official account of how the Golden State Killer was apprehended and put behind bars for life. Ho led an elite team of law enforcement from six California prosecutor's offices, using a newly developed tool known as “investigative genetic genealogy” to connect DeAngelo to multiple cold cases stretching back nearly a half century.Many previous narratives about DeAngelo, including two bestselling books and multiple documentaries, focused largely on the killer and his heinous crimes. This book not only provides hundreds of facts and details never revealed to the public about the Golden State Killer's crimes, it also presents the real-life story of the people who worked tirelessly to bring DeAngelo to justice. It also offers the unprecedented authorized perspective of three survivors of DeAngelo's crimes who courageously turned their pain into empowerment and activism. A portion of the book's proceeds will be donated both by the author and Third State Books to Phyllis's Garden, a nonprofit advocating for victims' rights begun in honor of a GSK survivor.The People vs. the Golden State Killer also recounts Ho's fascinating personal journey, from escaping communist Vietnam with his family as a child to working his way up from an internship to an elite homicide division and eventually becoming one of only ten Asian American district attorneys out of 2,400 nationwide. THE PEOPLE vs THE GOLDEN STATE KILLER: Sacramento District Attorney—Thien Ho
Imagine fleeing a war as a child, arriving in America unable to speak the language — and decades later, becoming the prosecutor who takes down one of the nation's most infamous serial killers. That's the real-life journey of Thien Ho, Sacramento County's District Attorney and author of The People vs. The Golden State Killer. In this Hidden Killers exclusive, Tony Brueski sits down with Ho to unpack the extraordinary story behind both the man and the case: the trauma that drove him, the promise he made to a survivor, and the moment he finally saw justice done. Ho shares never-before-heard insights into Joseph James DeAngelo's double life — a police officer by day, a sadistic predator by night — and explains how the prosecution dismantled his decades-long facade of control. He also opens up about his personal mission to shift true crime's focus away from the monster and toward the heroes: the survivors and investigators who never stopped fighting. It's a conversation about justice, redemption, and the moral courage it takes to stand in the face of real evil — and win. #ThienHo #GoldenStateKiller #JosephDeAngelo #HiddenKillers #TrueCrimeToday #JusticeServed #ColdCase #SurvivorVoices #DNAJustice #EastAreaRapist Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary
Imagine fleeing a war as a child, arriving in America unable to speak the language — and decades later, becoming the prosecutor who takes down one of the nation's most infamous serial killers. That's the real-life journey of Thien Ho, Sacramento County's District Attorney and author of The People vs. The Golden State Killer. In this Hidden Killers exclusive, Tony Brueski sits down with Ho to unpack the extraordinary story behind both the man and the case: the trauma that drove him, the promise he made to a survivor, and the moment he finally saw justice done. Ho shares never-before-heard insights into Joseph James DeAngelo's double life — a police officer by day, a sadistic predator by night — and explains how the prosecution dismantled his decades-long facade of control. He also opens up about his personal mission to shift true crime's focus away from the monster and toward the heroes: the survivors and investigators who never stopped fighting. It's a conversation about justice, redemption, and the moral courage it takes to stand in the face of real evil — and win. #ThienHo #GoldenStateKiller #JosephDeAngelo #HiddenKillers #TrueCrimeToday #JusticeServed #ColdCase #SurvivorVoices #DNAJustice #EastAreaRapist Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
Imagine fleeing a war as a child, arriving in America unable to speak the language — and decades later, becoming the prosecutor who takes down one of the nation's most infamous serial killers. That's the real-life journey of Thien Ho, Sacramento County's District Attorney and author of The People vs. The Golden State Killer. In this Hidden Killers exclusive, Tony Brueski sits down with Ho to unpack the extraordinary story behind both the man and the case: the trauma that drove him, the promise he made to a survivor, and the moment he finally saw justice done. Ho shares never-before-heard insights into Joseph James DeAngelo's double life — a police officer by day, a sadistic predator by night — and explains how the prosecution dismantled his decades-long facade of control. He also opens up about his personal mission to shift true crime's focus away from the monster and toward the heroes: the survivors and investigators who never stopped fighting. It's a conversation about justice, redemption, and the moral courage it takes to stand in the face of real evil — and win. #ThienHo #GoldenStateKiller #JosephDeAngelo #HiddenKillers #TrueCrimeToday #JusticeServed #ColdCase #SurvivorVoices #DNAJustice #EastAreaRapist Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
When Joseph DeAngelo — the Golden State Killer — was finally unmasked in 2018, the world saw an old man slumped in a wheelchair. But according to Sacramento DA Thien Ho, it was all an act. In this exclusive conversation, Tony Brueski goes behind the headlines with Ho, the man who stood across the courtroom from one of America's most elusive serial predators. From the whispered “crazy act” DeAngelo tried to pull in the interrogation room to the frail performance he staged in court, Ho explains how the prosecution saw through every layer of manipulation. But this story isn't about glorifying a killer — it's about the survivors. Ho shares how he centered their voices, the emotional weight of their impact statements, and the unforgettable moment one woman told DeAngelo, “I'm not afraid of you anymore.” The People vs. The Golden State Killer gives us the first insider look at the battle between truth and illusion — and how one prosecutor helped make history by exposing the evil hiding behind a mask of normalcy. #GoldenStateKiller #ThienHo #JosephDeAngelo #HiddenKillers #TrueCrimePodcast #Justice #Prosecution #DNAEvidence #EastAreaRapist #CrimeStories Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
For more than 40 years, the man now known as the Golden State Killer stalked California — breaking into homes, raping, murdering, and then vanishing into the night. He was a ghost who terrorized families from Sacramento to Santa Barbara — until one relentless prosecutor finally helped end his reign of fear. In this episode, Tony Brueski sits down with Sacramento County District Attorney Thien Ho, the man who personally led the prosecution that put Joseph James DeAngelo behind bars for life. Ho's new book, The People vs. The Golden State Killer, pulls back the curtain on the real investigation — from the DNA breakthrough that cracked the case wide open to the survivors who refused to stay silent. This isn't a retelling of old headlines. It's the first inside account of what really happened in the courtroom, the strategies behind the scenes, and the human cost of justice decades in the making. You'll hear how DeAngelo faked insanity to manipulate investigators, the haunting promise Ho made to a survivor, and the moment victims stood up in court and told their attacker they weren't afraid anymore. This is the story of justice, perseverance, and the team that never stopped hunting a monster hiding in plain sight. #HiddenKillers #GoldenStateKiller #JosephDeAngelo #ThienHo #TrueCrimeToday #ColdCase #DNAJustice #EastAreaRapist #OriginalNightstalker #JusticeServed Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
Imagine fleeing a war as a child, arriving in America unable to speak the language — and decades later, becoming the prosecutor who takes down one of the nation's most infamous serial killers. That's the real-life journey of Thien Ho, Sacramento County's District Attorney and author of The People vs. The Golden State Killer. In this Hidden Killers exclusive, Tony Brueski sits down with Ho to unpack the extraordinary story behind both the man and the case: the trauma that drove him, the promise he made to a survivor, and the moment he finally saw justice done. Ho shares never-before-heard insights into Joseph James DeAngelo's double life — a police officer by day, a sadistic predator by night — and explains how the prosecution dismantled his decades-long facade of control. He also opens up about his personal mission to shift true crime's focus away from the monster and toward the heroes: the survivors and investigators who never stopped fighting. It's a conversation about justice, redemption, and the moral courage it takes to stand in the face of real evil — and win. #ThienHo #GoldenStateKiller #JosephDeAngelo #HiddenKillers #TrueCrimeToday #JusticeServed #ColdCase #SurvivorVoices #DNAJustice #EastAreaRapist Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary
For more than 40 years, the man now known as the Golden State Killer stalked California — breaking into homes, raping, murdering, and then vanishing into the night. He was a ghost who terrorized families from Sacramento to Santa Barbara — until one relentless prosecutor finally helped end his reign of fear. In this episode, Tony Brueski sits down with Sacramento County District Attorney Thien Ho, the man who personally led the prosecution that put Joseph James DeAngelo behind bars for life. Ho's new book, The People vs. The Golden State Killer, pulls back the curtain on the real investigation — from the DNA breakthrough that cracked the case wide open to the survivors who refused to stay silent. This isn't a retelling of old headlines. It's the first inside account of what really happened in the courtroom, the strategies behind the scenes, and the human cost of justice decades in the making. You'll hear how DeAngelo faked insanity to manipulate investigators, the haunting promise Ho made to a survivor, and the moment victims stood up in court and told their attacker they weren't afraid anymore. This is the story of justice, perseverance, and the team that never stopped hunting a monster hiding in plain sight. #HiddenKillers #GoldenStateKiller #JosephDeAngelo #ThienHo #TrueCrimeToday #ColdCase #DNAJustice #EastAreaRapist #OriginalNightstalker #JusticeServed Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary
Imagine fleeing a war as a child, arriving in America unable to speak the language — and decades later, becoming the prosecutor who takes down one of the nation's most infamous serial killers. That's the real-life journey of Thien Ho, Sacramento County's District Attorney and author of The People vs. The Golden State Killer. In this Hidden Killers exclusive, Tony Brueski sits down with Ho to unpack the extraordinary story behind both the man and the case: the trauma that drove him, the promise he made to a survivor, and the moment he finally saw justice done. Ho shares never-before-heard insights into Joseph James DeAngelo's double life — a police officer by day, a sadistic predator by night — and explains how the prosecution dismantled his decades-long facade of control. He also opens up about his personal mission to shift true crime's focus away from the monster and toward the heroes: the survivors and investigators who never stopped fighting. It's a conversation about justice, redemption, and the moral courage it takes to stand in the face of real evil — and win. #ThienHo #GoldenStateKiller #JosephDeAngelo #HiddenKillers #TrueCrimeToday #JusticeServed #ColdCase #SurvivorVoices #DNAJustice #EastAreaRapist Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary
When Joseph DeAngelo — the Golden State Killer — was finally unmasked in 2018, the world saw an old man slumped in a wheelchair. But according to Sacramento DA Thien Ho, it was all an act. In this exclusive conversation, Tony Brueski goes behind the headlines with Ho, the man who stood across the courtroom from one of America's most elusive serial predators. From the whispered “crazy act” DeAngelo tried to pull in the interrogation room to the frail performance he staged in court, Ho explains how the prosecution saw through every layer of manipulation. But this story isn't about glorifying a killer — it's about the survivors. Ho shares how he centered their voices, the emotional weight of their impact statements, and the unforgettable moment one woman told DeAngelo, “I'm not afraid of you anymore.” The People vs. The Golden State Killer gives us the first insider look at the battle between truth and illusion — and how one prosecutor helped make history by exposing the evil hiding behind a mask of normalcy. #GoldenStateKiller #ThienHo #JosephDeAngelo #HiddenKillers #TrueCrimePodcast #Justice #Prosecution #DNAEvidence #EastAreaRapist #CrimeStories Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
Imagine fleeing a war as a child, arriving in America unable to speak the language — and decades later, becoming the prosecutor who takes down one of the nation's most infamous serial killers. That's the real-life journey of Thien Ho, Sacramento County's District Attorney and author of The People vs. The Golden State Killer. In this Hidden Killers exclusive, Tony Brueski sits down with Ho to unpack the extraordinary story behind both the man and the case: the trauma that drove him, the promise he made to a survivor, and the moment he finally saw justice done. Ho shares never-before-heard insights into Joseph James DeAngelo's double life — a police officer by day, a sadistic predator by night — and explains how the prosecution dismantled his decades-long facade of control. He also opens up about his personal mission to shift true crime's focus away from the monster and toward the heroes: the survivors and investigators who never stopped fighting. It's a conversation about justice, redemption, and the moral courage it takes to stand in the face of real evil — and win. #ThienHo #GoldenStateKiller #JosephDeAngelo #HiddenKillers #TrueCrimeToday #JusticeServed #ColdCase #SurvivorVoices #DNAJustice #EastAreaRapist Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
For more than 40 years, the man now known as the Golden State Killer stalked California — breaking into homes, raping, murdering, and then vanishing into the night. He was a ghost who terrorized families from Sacramento to Santa Barbara — until one relentless prosecutor finally helped end his reign of fear. In this episode, Tony Brueski sits down with Sacramento County District Attorney Thien Ho, the man who personally led the prosecution that put Joseph James DeAngelo behind bars for life. Ho's new book, The People vs. The Golden State Killer, pulls back the curtain on the real investigation — from the DNA breakthrough that cracked the case wide open to the survivors who refused to stay silent. This isn't a retelling of old headlines. It's the first inside account of what really happened in the courtroom, the strategies behind the scenes, and the human cost of justice decades in the making. You'll hear how DeAngelo faked insanity to manipulate investigators, the haunting promise Ho made to a survivor, and the moment victims stood up in court and told their attacker they weren't afraid anymore. This is the story of justice, perseverance, and the team that never stopped hunting a monster hiding in plain sight. #HiddenKillers #GoldenStateKiller #JosephDeAngelo #ThienHo #TrueCrimeToday #ColdCase #DNAJustice #EastAreaRapist #OriginalNightstalker #JusticeServed Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
When Joseph DeAngelo — the Golden State Killer — was finally unmasked in 2018, the world saw an old man slumped in a wheelchair. But according to Sacramento DA Thien Ho, it was all an act. In this exclusive conversation, Tony Brueski goes behind the headlines with Ho, the man who stood across the courtroom from one of America's most elusive serial predators. From the whispered “crazy act” DeAngelo tried to pull in the interrogation room to the frail performance he staged in court, Ho explains how the prosecution saw through every layer of manipulation. But this story isn't about glorifying a killer — it's about the survivors. Ho shares how he centered their voices, the emotional weight of their impact statements, and the unforgettable moment one woman told DeAngelo, “I'm not afraid of you anymore.” The People vs. The Golden State Killer gives us the first insider look at the battle between truth and illusion — and how one prosecutor helped make history by exposing the evil hiding behind a mask of normalcy. #GoldenStateKiller #ThienHo #JosephDeAngelo #HiddenKillers #TrueCrimePodcast #Justice #Prosecution #DNAEvidence #EastAreaRapist #CrimeStories Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpod Listen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872
Welcome to Season 5, Episode 44! Our guest today is Thien Ho, the Sacramento District attorney and long time prosecutor. He's also the author of the upcoming book, The People vs. The Golden State Killer which will be published by Third State Books and releases on November 11th. This true crime memoir follows Thien's experience as the lead prosecutor on the case against Joseph DeAngelo, one of the most notorious serial killers of the 20th century. It covers never-before published details about the investigation, capture, and trial that put DeAngelo behind bars. At the same time, the book is a memoir that follows Thien's personal story escaping war-torn Vietnam as a young boy and working his way up the law enforcement system to becoming the lead prosecutor in the case. Ho has gone on to become the Sacramento District Attorney, one of only 10 API District Attorneys in the country (there are 2400 total DAs). We loved how the book also highlights the experiences of three key survivors of DeAngelo's crimes, something that other books on the Golden State Killer haven't done to any significant extent… and this gives power to the survivors. In fact, a portion of the book's proceeds will be donated both by the author and Third State Books to Phyllis's Garden, a nonprofit advocating for victims' rights begun in honor of a GSK survivor. To get a copy of the book, we encourage you to purchase through the links on thienho.org because you'll be supporting small businesses. If you like what we do, please share, follow, and like us in your podcast directory of choice or on Instagram @AAHistory101. For previous episodes and resources, please visit our site at https://asianamericanhistory101.libsyn.com or our links at http://castpie.com/AAHistory101. If you have any questions, comments or suggestions, email us at info@aahistory101.com.
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Join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley are joined by Sacramento County DA Thien Ho to discuss his powerful new book, "The People Vs. The Golden State Killer," which tells the behind the scene story of the successful prosecution of Joseph D'Angelo. The book will be released on November 11, 2025.Thien Ho Website: https://www.thienho.org/American Detective TV series: Colonial Parkway Murders:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp3rNRZnL0EWashingtonian: A Murder on the Rappahannock River:https://www.washingtonian.com/2019/06/27/murder-on-the-rappahannock-river-emerson-stevens-mary-harding-innocence-project/WTKR News 3: One year after development in Colonial Parkway Murders, where do things stand?https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/historic-triangle/one-year-after-development-in-colonial-parkway-murders-where-do-things-standWon't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amount you can here:https://www.gofundme.com/f/mind-over-murder-podcast-expenses?utm_campaign=p_lico+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customerWTVR CBS News: Colonial Parkway murders victims' families keep hope cases will be solved:https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/colonial-parkway-murders-update-april-19-2024WAVY TV 10 News: New questions raised in Colonial Parkway murders:https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/new-questions-raised-in-colonial-parkway-murders/Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. has been named as the killer of Robin Edwards and David Knobling in the Colonial Parkway Murders in September 1987, as well as the murderer of Teresa Howell in June 1989. He has also been linked to the April 1988 disappearance and likely murder of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey, another pair in the Colonial Parkway Murders.13News Now investigates: A serial killer's DNA will not be entered into CODIS database:https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/local/13news-now-investigates/291-e82a9e0b-38e3-4f95-982a-40e960a71e49WAVY TV 10 on the Colonial Parkway Murders Announcement with photos:https://www.wavy.com/news/crime/deceased-man-identified-as-suspect-in-decades-old-homicides/WTKR News 3https://www.wtkr.com/news/is-man-linked-to-one-of-the-colonial-parkway-murders-connected-to-the-other-casesVirginian Pilot: Who was Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.? Man suspected in two ‘Colonial Parkway' murders died alone in 2017https://www.pilotonline.com/2024/01/14/who-was-alan-wade-wilmer-sr-man-suspected-in-colonial-parkway-murders-died-alone-in-2017/Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 18,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCaseYou can also participate in an in-depth discussion of the Colonial Parkway Murders here:https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/board/50/colonial-parkway-murdersMind Over Murder is proud to be a Spreaker Prime Podcaster:https://www.spreaker.comJoin the discussion on our Mind Over MurderColonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.comPlease subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning, and a bonus episode every Thursday morning.Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.comContribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/registerFollow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOverFollow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley, Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero ProductionsBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.
He was the bogeyman of suburban America — a ghost who crept into homes, shattered lives, and vanished into the night. For decades, the Golden State Killer taunted police, leaving behind terrified families and a trail of violence that stretched across California. Rape, murder, stalking — his crimes were monstrous, his arrogance chilling. And yet, he lived quietly among us, a husband, a neighbour, a man who waved on his morning walk.In this gripping episode of Blood Ties, Geoffrey and Molly Wansell uncover how one of America's most sadistic predators was finally unmasked — not by luck, but by science. It's a story of obsession, fear, and justice, decades in the making. The Golden State Killer — humanity at its most horrifying.CREDITS: Presenters: Geoffrey and Molly WansellProducer: Peter Shevlin https://pod60.com/Artwork: George LeighMusic: Dan WansellCONTACT: Twitter: @BloodTies_PodInstagram: bloodties_podEmail: bloodties.podcast@gmail.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bloodtiespodcastSupport: patreon.com/bloodtiespodcastPlease complete our survey if you have time: http://bit.ly/bloodtiespodcast-survey Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
True Crime Tuesday presents The People Vs. The Golden State Killer with Attorney/District Attorney of Sacremento/Author, Thien Ho! In The People vs. the Golden State Killer, Thien Ho, the current District Attorney of Sacramento, recounts his harrowing and exhilarating experience as the lead prosecutor responsible for capturing and prosecuting Joseph DeAngelo. Referred to at various times by law enforcement and the media as the Visalia Ransacker, the East Bay Rapist, the Original Nightstalker, and finally the Golden State Killer, DeAngelo, a former policeman, is widely considered “one of the most notorious serial predators in American history.” Ho's book is the first official account of how the Golden State Killer was apprehended and put behind bars for life. Ho led an elite team of law enforcement from six California prosecutor's offices, using a newly developed tool known as “investigative genetic genealogy” to connect DeAngelo to multiple cold cases stretching back nearly a half century. Many previous narratives about DeAngelo, including two bestselling books and multiple documentaries, focused largely on the killer and his heinous crimes. This book not only provides hundreds of facts and details never revealed to the public about the Golden State Killer's crimes, it also presents the real-life story of the people who worked tirelessly to bring DeAngelo to justice. It also offers the unprecedented authorized perspective of three survivors of DeAngelo's crimes who courageously turned their pain into empowerment and activism. A portion of the book's proceeds will be donated both by the author and Third State Books to Phyllis's Garden, a nonprofit advocating for victims' rights begun in honor of a GSK survivor. On Today's True Crime Tuesday, we talk to Thien Ho about how he and his family fled from Vietnam in the early 70's, and how he went from not even knowing English when he came to this country, to wanting to defend his fellow citizens from the worst of the worst! We talk about how he got the case of Joseph DeAngelo assigned to him, the challenges he had to overcome to get an indictment and then a conviction, and then justice for the victims that, for the first time in his career, he made a PROMISE that he would deliver a guilty verdict to! PLUS AN ALL-NEW DUMB CRIMES/STUPID CRIMINALS W/TRAVIS THORPE! See the video of the trio that tried to break down the door of an Alexandria family while wearing Halloween costumes! : https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/virginia/trio-halloween-masks-caught-on-camera-alexandria/65-48684b04-8dea-47ed-9b07-1aa6a65ae6dc?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark# Pre-Order your copy of "The People Vs. The Golden State Killer" here: https://bit.ly/4hnzBIH Sign up to go with Dacre Stoker and Mysterious Universe Tours to Romania here: https://www.mysteriousadventurestours.com/darkness_radio/ Want to attend JUST Dracula's Vampire Ball at Bran Castle? Click this link to find out how: https://www.mysteriousadventurestours.com/darkness_radio/ Travel with Brian J. Cano to Ireland for Halloween for 11 days and get 100 dollars off and break it into 10 easy payments here: https://www.mysteriousadventurestours.com/darkness_radio/ Make sure you update your Darkness Radio Apple Apps! and subscribe to the Darkness Radio You Tube page: https://www.youtube.com/@DRTimDennis There are new and different (and really cool) items all the time in the Darkness Radio Online store at our website! . check out the Darkness Radio Store! https://www.darknessradioshow.com/store/ #crime #truecrime #truecrimepodcasts #truecrimetuesday #thienho #thepeoplevsthegoldenstatekiller #goldenstatekiller #thirdstatebooks #murder #serialkillers #truecrimebooks #joesphdeangelo #visaliaransacker #eastarearapist #originalnightstalker #sacremento #murderinvestigation #orangecounty #rape #sexualassault #phyllissgarden #dumbcrimesstupidcriminals #TimDennis #travisthorpe #combatrev #floridaman #drugcrimes #foodcrimes #stupidcrimes #funnycrimes #sexcrimes
True Crime Tuesday presents The People Vs. The Golden State Killer with Attorney/District Attorney of Sacremento/Author, Thien Ho! In The People vs. the Golden State Killer, Thien Ho, the current District Attorney of Sacramento, recounts his harrowing and exhilarating experience as the lead prosecutor responsible for capturing and prosecuting Joseph DeAngelo. Referred to at various times by law enforcement and the media as the Visalia Ransacker, the East Bay Rapist, the Original Nightstalker, and finally the Golden State Killer, DeAngelo, a former policeman, is widely considered “one of the most notorious serial predators in American history.” Ho's book is the first official account of how the Golden State Killer was apprehended and put behind bars for life. Ho led an elite team of law enforcement from six California prosecutor's offices, using a newly developed tool known as “investigative genetic genealogy” to connect DeAngelo to multiple cold cases stretching back nearly a half century. Many previous narratives about DeAngelo, including two bestselling books and multiple documentaries, focused largely on the killer and his heinous crimes. This book not only provides hundreds of facts and details never revealed to the public about the Golden State Killer's crimes, it also presents the real-life story of the people who worked tirelessly to bring DeAngelo to justice. It also offers the unprecedented authorized perspective of three survivors of DeAngelo's crimes who courageously turned their pain into empowerment and activism. A portion of the book's proceeds will be donated both by the author and Third State Books to Phyllis's Garden, a nonprofit advocating for victims' rights begun in honor of a GSK survivor. On Today's True Crime Tuesday, we talk to Thien Ho about how he and his family fled from Vietnam in the early 70's, and how he went from not even knowing English when he came to this country, to wanting to defend his fellow citizens from the worst of the worst! We talk about how he got the case of Joseph DeAngelo assigned to him, the challenges he had to overcome to get an indictment and then a conviction, and then justice for the victims that, for the first time in his career, he made a PROMISE that he would deliver a guilty verdict to! PLUS AN ALL-NEW DUMB CRIMES/STUPID CRIMINALS W/TRAVIS THORPE! See the video of the trio that tried to break down the door of an Alexandria family while wearing Halloween costumes! : https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/virginia/trio-halloween-masks-caught-on-camera-alexandria/65-48684b04-8dea-47ed-9b07-1aa6a65ae6dc?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark# Pre-Order your copy of "The People Vs. The Golden State Killer" here: https://bit.ly/4hnzBIH Sign up to go with Dacre Stoker and Mysterious Universe Tours to Romania here: https://www.mysteriousadventurestours.com/darkness_radio/ Want to attend JUST Dracula's Vampire Ball at Bran Castle? Click this link to find out how: https://www.mysteriousadventurestours.com/darkness_radio/ Travel with Brian J. Cano to Ireland for Halloween for 11 days and get 100 dollars off and break it into 10 easy payments here: https://www.mysteriousadventurestours.com/darkness_radio/ Make sure you update your Darkness Radio Apple Apps! and subscribe to the Darkness Radio You Tube page: https://www.youtube.com/@DRTimDennis There are new and different (and really cool) items all the time in the Darkness Radio Online store at our website! . check out the Darkness Radio Store! https://www.darknessradioshow.com/store/ #crime #truecrime #truecrimepodcasts #truecrimetuesday #thienho #thepeoplevsthegoldenstatekiller #goldenstatekiller #thirdstatebooks #murder #serialkillers #truecrimebooks #joesphdeangelo #visaliaransacker #eastarearapist #originalnightstalker #sacremento #murderinvestigation #orangecounty #rape #sexualassault #phyllissgarden #dumbcrimesstupidcriminals #TimDennis #travisthorpe #combatrev #floridaman #drugcrimes #foodcrimes #stupidcrimes #funnycrimes #sexcrimes
Phoenix Police Department cold case homicide detective and and former CPA Troy Hillman tells the extraordinary, detailed inside story of how an elite team of detectives—hounded by the press, a frustrated and frightened public, and their own doubts and exhaustion—solved a double murder that had haunted the Phoenix area for more than twenty years. The initial details were already chilling—the brutal murder of two women, found headless, who were assaulted while riding their bikes along a well-known canal bike path—but Hillman reveals how the initial headlines only scratched the surface and how his team's use of groundbreaking methods and familial DNA set a precedent for cold cases like The Golden State Killer. These methods included consulting with The Vidocq Society – an all-volunteer team of forensic experts and investigators – and an expert in the new field of forensic genealogist – which utilizes genetic information from direct-to-consumer companies to identify suspects or victims in criminal cases.All of this is captured in his fascinating new book Chasing Down the Zombie Hunter.Heroes Behind HeadlinesExecutive Producer Ralph PezzulloProduced & Engineered by Mike DawsonMusic provided by ExtremeMusic.com
Welcome back to All Things Crime! In this episode, Jared sits down with Sacramento County District Attorney Thien Ho, who not only led the historic prosecution of Joseph DeAngelo—the Golden State Killer—but also authored the upcoming book The People vs. The Golden State Killer.This book is the final chapter in the Golden State Killer trilogy, following Michelle McNamara's I'll Be Gone in the Dark and Paul Holes' book on the investigation. DA Ho takes us inside the prosecution, interrogation, and capture of one of America's most infamous serial killers.We dive into:-How investigative genetic genealogy cracked the case-Never-before-revealed details of DeAngelo's arrest and interrogation-The disturbing psychology and patterns behind his crimes-Stories from the courtroom and prosecution team
Welcome back to All Things Crime! In part 2 of this episode, Jared sits down with Sacramento County District Attorney Thien Ho, who not only led the historic prosecution of Joseph DeAngelo—the Golden State Killer—but also authored the upcoming book The People vs. The Golden State Killer.This book is the final chapter in the Golden State Killer trilogy, following Michelle McNamara's I'll Be Gone in the Dark and Paul Holes' book on the investigation. DA Ho takes us inside the prosecution, interrogation, and capture of one of America's most infamous serial killers.We dive into:-How investigative genetic genealogy cracked the case-Never-before-revealed details of DeAngelo's arrest and interrogation-The disturbing psychology and patterns behind his crimes-Stories from the courtroom and prosecution team
Welcome back to All Things Crime! In part 1 of this episode, Jared sits down with Sacramento County District Attorney Thien Ho, who not only led the historic prosecution of Joseph DeAngelo—the Golden State Killer—but also authored the upcoming book The People vs. The Golden State Killer.This book is the final chapter in the Golden State Killer trilogy, following Michelle McNamara's I'll Be Gone in the Dark and Paul Holes' book on the investigation. DA Ho takes us inside the prosecution, interrogation, and capture of one of America's most infamous serial killers.We dive into:-How investigative genetic genealogy cracked the case-Never-before-revealed details of DeAngelo's arrest and interrogation-The disturbing psychology and patterns behind his crimes-Stories from the courtroom and prosecution team
After decades of terrorizing California with over 50 rapes and 13 murders, the Golden State Killer was finally caught in 2018 — and the monster behind the mask was Joseph James DeAngelo, a former police officer who'd been living a quiet suburban life with his family. His wife of 40 years had no idea she was sleeping next to one of America's most prolific serial killers, a man who used his law enforcement training to evade capture while destroying countless lives.Join the DARKNESS SYNDICATE for the ad-free version: https://weirddarkness.com/syndicateTake the WEIRD DARKNESS LISTENER SURVEY and help mold the future of the podcast: https://weirddarkness.com/surveyIN THIS EPISODE: Joseph James DeAngelo was arrested and pleaded guilty; he received multiple life sentences, bringing the Golden State Killer trial to an end several decades after the murderer's bloody reign began. But the most shocking part of his story for most, even more so than the brutal and monstrous crimes, was the fact that he was a trusted member of law enforcement – a man the public was expected to trust and depend on. We'll look at the crimes he committed… and the trial that finally put him away for good. Plus… imagine being married to someone for forty years, only to find out that person is the Golden State Killer. We'll look at the life of Sharon Huddle, who understandably wants nothing to do with the press. Was she fooled by her husband for all those years, or did she know all along that her husband was truly a serial killer?SOURCES AND RESOURCES FROM THE EPISODE…“Trial And Crimes of the Golden State Killer” by Marco Margaritoff for All That's Interesting: https://tinyurl.com/y9xl3wuy, https://tinyurl.com/y9xl3wuy“Married To The Golden State Killer” by Marco Margaritoff for All That's Interesting: https://tinyurl.com/y8ema7v4=====(Over time links may become invalid, disappear, or have different content. I always make sure to give authors credit for the material I use whenever possible. If I somehow overlooked doing so for a story, or if a credit is incorrect, please let me know and I will rectify it in these show notes immediately. Some links included above may benefit me financially through qualifying purchases.)= = = = ="I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness." — John 12:46= = = = =WeirdDarkness® is a registered trademark. Copyright ©2025, Weird Darkness.=====Originally aired: September 28, 2020EPISODE PAGE at WeirdDarkness.com (includes list of sources): https://weirddarkness.com/GoldenStateKillerABOUT WEIRD DARKNESS: Weird Darkness is a true crime and paranormal podcast narrated by professional award-winning voice actor, Darren Marlar. Seven days per week, Weird Darkness focuses on all thing strange and macabre such as haunted locations, unsolved mysteries, true ghost stories, supernatural manifestations, urban legends, unsolved or cold case murders, conspiracy theories, and more. On Thursdays, this scary stories podcast features horror fiction along with the occasional creepypasta. Weird Darkness has been named one of the “Best 20 Storytellers in Podcasting” by Podcast Business Journal. Listeners have described the show as a cross between “Coast to Coast” with Art Bell, “The Twilight Zone” with Rod Serling, “Unsolved Mysteries” with Robert Stack, and “In Search Of” with Leonard Nimoy.DISCLAIMER: Ads heard during the podcast that are not in my voice are placed by third party agencies outside of my control and should not imply an endorsement by Weird Darkness or myself. *** Stories and content in Weird Darkness can be disturbing for some listeners and intended for mature audiences only. Parental discretion is strongly advised.#TrueCrime #GoldenStateKiller #SerialKiller #ColdCase #TrueCrimePodcast
Inside America's Darkest Secret: The Serial Killer Capital of the World.Why does the USA have more serial killers per capita than any other country?From Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer to the Golden State Killer and Samuel Little, the United States has produced almost 70% of all known serial murderers—despite making up less than 5% of the world's population. In this episode of Psycho Killer: Shocking True Crime Stories, Simon Ford and Jacques Morrell uncover the data, the history, and the psychology that explain America's dark reputation.We explore post-war suburbia, the impact of Vietnam, the failures of fragmented policing, and how psychopaths hide in plain sight. Is the American Dream itself a breeding ground for killers? Tune in to Part One: The Perfect Storm to find out.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/psycho-killer-shocking-true-crime-stories--5005712/support.
Our dive into the court documents continues in this episode as we begin our look at the new IGG (genealogy) order to hit the docket.Genealogy is increasingly used in investigations, particularly in the realm of criminal and forensic work. Here's a comprehensive summary of how genealogy is applied in such contexts:Crime Solving: Genealogy is employed to solve cold cases, unidentified remains, and unsolved crimes by identifying potential suspects or victims. Investigators use genealogical research to establish familial connections and track down individuals who may be linked to a crime.DNA Testing: DNA extracted from crime scene evidence is compared to genetic databases, like GEDmatch or law enforcement databases, to find possible matches or relatives. This genetic genealogy technique is commonly used in cases involving sexual assault, homicides, and missing persons.Building Family Trees: Genealogists and investigators construct extensive family trees of potential suspects or victims. They use available records, like birth and marriage certificates, obituaries, and historical documents, to piece together family histories.Reverse Genealogy: Instead of tracing a person's ancestors, reverse genealogy is employed to identify living descendants and their connections to a person of interest. This technique is especially useful in identifying unknown victims.Privacy Concerns: The use of genealogy in investigations has raised privacy concerns. As DNA data and family histories are often collected without individuals' explicit consent, the ethical and legal implications of this practice are under scrutiny.Case Resolutions: Genealogical investigations have led to the resolution of numerous high-profile cases, including the identification and capture of serial killers and the closure of decades-old mysteries. Notable examples include the Golden State Killer case and the identification of the "Buckskin Girl."Collaboration: Law enforcement agencies often collaborate with genealogy companies and experts who specialize in forensic genealogy to harness their expertise and databases.Legislation and Regulation: The use of genealogy in investigations has prompted the creation of legislation and regulations to address privacy and data security issues. Various jurisdictions have implemented laws governing the use of genetic databases in criminal investigations.to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.comsource:102523-Order-Addressing-IGG-DNA.pdf (amazonaws.com)Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-moscow-murders-and-more--5852883/support.
Our dive into the court documents continues in this episode as we begin our look at the new IGG (genealogy) order to hit the docket.Genealogy is increasingly used in investigations, particularly in the realm of criminal and forensic work. Here's a comprehensive summary of how genealogy is applied in such contexts:Crime Solving: Genealogy is employed to solve cold cases, unidentified remains, and unsolved crimes by identifying potential suspects or victims. Investigators use genealogical research to establish familial connections and track down individuals who may be linked to a crime.DNA Testing: DNA extracted from crime scene evidence is compared to genetic databases, like GEDmatch or law enforcement databases, to find possible matches or relatives. This genetic genealogy technique is commonly used in cases involving sexual assault, homicides, and missing persons.Building Family Trees: Genealogists and investigators construct extensive family trees of potential suspects or victims. They use available records, like birth and marriage certificates, obituaries, and historical documents, to piece together family histories.Reverse Genealogy: Instead of tracing a person's ancestors, reverse genealogy is employed to identify living descendants and their connections to a person of interest. This technique is especially useful in identifying unknown victims.Privacy Concerns: The use of genealogy in investigations has raised privacy concerns. As DNA data and family histories are often collected without individuals' explicit consent, the ethical and legal implications of this practice are under scrutiny.Case Resolutions: Genealogical investigations have led to the resolution of numerous high-profile cases, including the identification and capture of serial killers and the closure of decades-old mysteries. Notable examples include the Golden State Killer case and the identification of the "Buckskin Girl."Collaboration: Law enforcement agencies often collaborate with genealogy companies and experts who specialize in forensic genealogy to harness their expertise and databases.Legislation and Regulation: The use of genealogy in investigations has prompted the creation of legislation and regulations to address privacy and data security issues. Various jurisdictions have implemented laws governing the use of genetic databases in criminal investigations.to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.comsource:102523-Order-Addressing-IGG-DNA.pdf (amazonaws.com)Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-moscow-murders-and-more--5852883/support.
Our dive into the court documents continues in this episode as we begin our look at the new IGG (genealogy) order to hit the docket.Genealogy is increasingly used in investigations, particularly in the realm of criminal and forensic work. Here's a comprehensive summary of how genealogy is applied in such contexts:Crime Solving: Genealogy is employed to solve cold cases, unidentified remains, and unsolved crimes by identifying potential suspects or victims. Investigators use genealogical research to establish familial connections and track down individuals who may be linked to a crime.DNA Testing: DNA extracted from crime scene evidence is compared to genetic databases, like GEDmatch or law enforcement databases, to find possible matches or relatives. This genetic genealogy technique is commonly used in cases involving sexual assault, homicides, and missing persons.Building Family Trees: Genealogists and investigators construct extensive family trees of potential suspects or victims. They use available records, like birth and marriage certificates, obituaries, and historical documents, to piece together family histories.Reverse Genealogy: Instead of tracing a person's ancestors, reverse genealogy is employed to identify living descendants and their connections to a person of interest. This technique is especially useful in identifying unknown victims.Privacy Concerns: The use of genealogy in investigations has raised privacy concerns. As DNA data and family histories are often collected without individuals' explicit consent, the ethical and legal implications of this practice are under scrutiny.Case Resolutions: Genealogical investigations have led to the resolution of numerous high-profile cases, including the identification and capture of serial killers and the closure of decades-old mysteries. Notable examples include the Golden State Killer case and the identification of the "Buckskin Girl."Collaboration: Law enforcement agencies often collaborate with genealogy companies and experts who specialize in forensic genealogy to harness their expertise and databases.Legislation and Regulation: The use of genealogy in investigations has prompted the creation of legislation and regulations to address privacy and data security issues. Various jurisdictions have implemented laws governing the use of genetic databases in criminal investigations.to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.comsource:102523-Order-Addressing-IGG-DNA.pdf (amazonaws.com)Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-moscow-murders-and-more--5852883/support.
The Golden State Killer is one of the most prolific criminals in American history. Despite committing hundreds of known crimes and being suspected of many more, he evaded capture for 44 years until technology finally caught up with him. Sponsor:shopify.com/casual - sign up for your $1 per month trial period today Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Ep 273: Reconsidered: 26 - Barbara Rae-Venter Original Airdate: 09/15/20 Now a genetic genealogist this women is best known for her groundbreaking work on the Golden State Killer case, she was recently named one of Time's 100 most influential people of 2019. What people don't know, however, is that she also played an integral role in solving a 30 year cold case . Women & Crime: Reconsidered is where we revisit our episode catalog and bring new insights, behind the scenes or updates. Sources for Today's Episode: New York Times Geneologyconsult.com (her website) Oxygen ABC News Credits: Written and Hosted by Amy Shlosberg and Meghan Sacks Produced by James Varga Audio Editor, Script Editor, Music by Dessert Media Help is Available: If you or someone you know is in a crisis situation, or a victim of domestic, or other violence, there are many organizations that can offer support or help you in your specific situation. For direct links to these organizations please visit https://womenandcrimepodcast.com/resources/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
After 46 years, detectives reopen Carla Walker’s murder, and an investigator who helped find the Golden State Killer wants in on the case. But will DNA testing of the cheerleaders' clothes help solve the case or kill it?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
This week we're diving into the sinister true story of the Golden State Killer. Watch this episode on YouTube: YouTube.com/@CultliterCall the Hotline: 747-322-0273Buy my book: prh.com/obitchuary Merch! Merch! Merch!: wonderyshop.com/cultliterCome see me on tour: obitchuarypodcast.com Write me: spencer@cultliter.comSpencer Henry PO Box 18149 Long Beach CA 90807 Follow along online: instagram.com/cultliterpodcast instagram.com/spencerhenryJoin our patreon: Patreon.com/cultliterCheck out my other show OBITCHUARY wherever you're listening now! Sources:https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/golden-state-killer-trial-10-years-766141/https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/earons-gsk-search-warrants-redacted-information-12966690.phphttps://www.cnn.com/2020/06/29/us/golden-state-killer-plea-expected/index.htmlhttps://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/29/us/golden-state-killer-joseph-deangelo.htmlhttps://abcnews.go.com/US/living-witness-teen-dads-murder-confronts-golden-state/story?id=72473195https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_James_DeAngeloSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
This week we're diving into the sinister true story of the Golden State Killer. Watch this episode on YouTube: YouTube.com/@CultliterCall the Hotline: 747-322-0273Buy my book: prh.com/obitchuary Merch! Merch! Merch!: wonderyshop.com/cultliterCome see me on tour: obitchuarypodcast.com Write me: spencer@cultliter.comSpencer Henry PO Box 18149 Long Beach CA 90807 Follow along online: instagram.com/cultliterpodcast instagram.com/spencerhenryJoin our patreon: Patreon.com/cultliterCheck out my other show OBITCHUARY wherever you're listening now! Sources:https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/golden-state-killer-trial-10-years-766141/https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/earons-gsk-search-warrants-redacted-information-12966690.phphttps://www.cnn.com/2020/06/29/us/golden-state-killer-plea-expected/index.htmlhttps://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/29/us/golden-state-killer-joseph-deangelo.htmlhttps://abcnews.go.com/US/living-witness-teen-dads-murder-confronts-golden-state/story?id=72473195https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_James_DeAngeloSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.