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The other side is dangerously wrong. They think you are too. But for democracy to work, we need to hear each other out. Each week New York Times Opinion columnists David Leonhardt, Michelle Goldberg and Ross Douthat explain the arguments from across the political spectrum. Their candid debates help…

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    The Argument podcast is a highly engaging and thought-provoking show that delves into a wide range of political and social topics. Hosted by a panel of diverse voices, including Ross Douthat, the discussions are both informative and entertaining. One of the best aspects of this podcast is the balanced approach to presenting different viewpoints. The hosts are respectful towards one another, creating an environment where listeners can genuinely consider multiple perspectives. Additionally, the conversations are well-informed and provide insightful analysis of current events, presenting a refreshing alternative to more polarized media.

    However, one potential drawback of The Argument is that due to the rotating panel of hosts, there may not always be consistent chemistry between them. While this can lead to interesting debates, it may also result in less cohesive discussions at times. Moreover, some listeners may find that certain topics are not covered in enough depth or that they would prefer longer episodes for more thorough exploration.

    In conclusion, The Argument podcast is a must-listen for anyone interested in nuanced political discussions that go beyond partisan rhetoric. Its fair-minded approach and intelligent analysis make it a standout among similar shows. Despite any minor weaknesses in terms of consistency or episode length, this podcast remains highly recommended for those seeking engaging and enlightening conversations about important issues facing society today.



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    Can Democrats Win the Working Class and Save the Republic?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 8, 2025 63:43


    Democrats are stumbling — badly. While the Trump administration redefines the limits of executive overreach, the Democratic party remains at odds over how to — even whether to — respond. But Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut has a plan for beating Republicans in 2026, and it involves taking a cue from President Trump. He shares it with Ross Douthat on this episode of Interesting Times. 02:07 - The First 100 Days for Trump and the Democrats04:06 - The Threat to Democracy Wasn't Enough Then or Now.06:49 - How Dems Fight Trump13:41 - Where Chris Murphy Can Agree With the Populist Right16:38 - Is Connecticut a Model of What is Wrong with Democrats?25:54 - The Spiritual Crisis in American Life27:56 - The Problem with Big Tech33:45 - How Do Democrats (And Murphy) Talk About Religion? Should They?45:35 - Is Trump Really Running An Oligarchy?50:34 - Does the Democratic Party Need a Bigger Tent?53:54 - A Need for a National Consensus on Immigration57:09 - “A Democracy Dies Without a High Stakes Confrontation”(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) Thoughts? Email us at interestingtimes@nytimes.com. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    Right Wing Counterculture: Vitality. Masculinity. Transgression.

    Play Episode Listen Later May 1, 2025 72:45


    The Trump era is ushering in a new age of right wing counterculture, one defined by masculinity and transgression. In this episode of Interesting Times, Ross speaks with Jonathan Keeperman, the founder of Passage Press, about the influence of an edgy, reactionary, right-wing “vibe shift” on American politics and culture.2:09 - Jonathan Keeperman's Lomez days5:25 - 2014: An inflection point in American culture? 7:40 The emergence of a “conservative counter elite”9:41 - The creation of a right wing counterweight to the dominant left12:32 - : What makes something “conservative art”?15:18 - Are David Lynch films right wing art? Is Girls?18:11 Is there such a thing as good left wing art?19:32 - Right wing counterculture's obsession with “vitalism”22:56 - Longhouse culture: Is the “over feminization” of society making America weaker?27:55 - Is the longhouse argument just a “long male whine”?30:41-  Is right wing counterculture anti-Christian?35:48 - Trump as mythic hero43:31 - What is the function of racism in right wing counterculture?53:50 - Are racist means transgressive or just racist?1:05:43 - Will the rightward vibe shift show up in pop culture? 1:07:37 Why every high school senior should read “Moby Dick” and watch “No Country for Old Men” (A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) Thoughts? Email us at interestingtimes@nytimes.com. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    A Francis Admirer and a Francis Skeptic Debate the Pope's Legacy

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 24, 2025 57:42


    On this episode of “Interesting Times,” Ross Douthat is joined by the Rev. James Martin, a Jesuit priest and the editor of America, to reflect on the legacy of Pope Francis and the challenges facing the next papacy.(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) Thoughts? Email us at interestingtimes@nytimes.com. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    What if There's No Way to Stop Trump's Approach to Power?

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 17, 2025 65:52


    President Trump may forever reshape the boundaries of executive power. This week on “Interesting Times,” Ross and Jack Goldsmith, who was the head of the White House's Office of Legal Counsel under President George W. Bush, discuss which cases are most likely to win in the courts and permanently expand the executive branch — for better or worse.00:02:03 Donald Trump's “moonshot on executive power”00:04:16 What has surprised Goldsmith the most00:06:57 Are we in a constitutional crisis?00:08:59 Alien Enemies Act00:14:02 The case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia00:25:23 Godel's loophole and Supreme Court enforcement30:10 Trump's firings of federal employees and restructuring of U.S.A.I.D.36:11 Trump's power over congressionally appropriated funding41:29 Obama v. Trump's discretion on enforcing laws passed by Congress43:03 The TikTok case45:46 Lawsuit over Trump's tariffs51:57 How the Supreme Court (maybe) thinks about picking its battles54:24 Worst case scenarios56:59 What the Supreme Court can do if the Trump administration does not comply01:01:32 What a Trump executive power revolution could look like in 2028 and beyond01:04:39 If Democrats win in 2028, what happens?(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) Thoughts? Email us at interestingtimes@nytimes.com. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    This Instability May Be Worth It. Here's Why.

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 10, 2025 48:08


    Is the short-term economic pain of President Trump's unpredictable approach to tariffs a reasonable price to pay for a more resilient America? Mr. Trump appears to think so, and so does Oren Cass — sort of. On the first episode of “Interesting Times,” the founder and chief economist of the think tank American Compass joins Ross Douthat to discuss and debate the Trump administration's drastic trade war.(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) Thoughts? Email us at interestingtimes@nytimes.com. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    Introducing ‘Interesting Times'

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 6, 2025 3:04


    There's a saying that comes to mind these days: May you live in interesting times. It's understood to be a curse, even though it sounds like a blessing.“Interesting Times With Ross Douthat” is a new weekly podcast from New York Times Opinion. Every Thursday, he will map the new world order through interviews and conversations. Answering questions like: What does our new political era really look like? What is the future of democracy around the world, with American empire in retreat? What happens to movies and books — all of culture — in our digital and A.I.-dominated age?Thoughts? Email us at interestingtimes@nytimes.com. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    How Democrats Drove Silicon Valley Into Trump's Arms

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 6, 2025 62:39


    The tech investor Marc Andreessen and his fellow Silicon Valley giant Elon Musk weren't always the Donald Trump supporters they are today. In this episode, Ross asks Andreessen, a founder of the venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz, about what led to Silicon Valley's rightward shift and the new agenda of the tech-right faction. Editors' note: This episode originally aired on the “Matter of Opinion” podcast on Jan. 17, 2025.(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) Thoughts? Email us at interestingtimes@nytimes.com. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    Steve Bannon on ‘Broligarchs' vs. Populism

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 6, 2025 71:39


    In this conversation, Ross talks to Steve Bannon, the chief strategist from Donald Trump's first term and part of the original MAGA movement. Despite his clashes with new factions emerging in the Republican Party, Bannon argues that Trump is still central to advancing a populist agenda.Editors' note: This episode originally aired on the “Matter of Opinion” podcast on Jan. 31, 2025.(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) Thoughts? Email us at interestingtimes@nytimes.com. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    The Anti-D.E.I. Crusader Who Wants to Dismantle the Department of Education

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 6, 2025 64:41


    Christopher Rufo brought the term "critical race theory" into mainstream conversation. Now, the anti-DEI activist is bringing his critiques of education to the White House. In this episode, Ross explores Rufo's mission to make universities feel "existential terror."Editors' note: This episode originally aired on the “Matter of Opinion” podcast on Mar. 7, 2025.(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)  Thoughts? Email us at interestingtimes@nytimes.com. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    Tom Friedman: Trump Is a ‘Small Man in a Big Time'

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 22, 2025 19:52


    President Trump has been operating with complete impunity and disregard for American institutions. In this episode of “The Opinions,” the Times Opinion deputy editor Patrick Healy and the columnist Thomas L. Friedman discuss the repercussions of such behavior on America's national and international policy.This episode originally aired in "The Opinions" feed on Mar. 20.For more episodes like this, follow "The Opinions" wherever you get your podcasts. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    Three Opinion Writers on Trump's First 50 Days

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 14, 2025 29:38


    In this episode of "The Opinions," Michelle Goldberg and Frank Bruni join Patrick Healy to discuss what has defined Trump's presidency thus far. This episode originally aired in "The Opinions" feed on Mar. 12.For more episodes like this, follow "The Opinions" wherever you get your podcasts.(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)  Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    The Anti-D.E.I. Crusader Who Wants to Dismantle the Department of Education

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 7, 2025 63:36


    Christopher Rufo's mission to make universities to feel "existential terror."(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)  Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    Your Questions Answered, and a Big Announcement

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 28, 2025 45:43


    This week, your beloved hosts gather for the last time to respond to listener feedback, reflect on the state of American politics and look ahead to a new show. If you're curious about how Carlos prepares for an episode or how the history books will remember Trump or what's next for this feed, this is the episode for you.(A full transcript of this episode will be available within 24 hours of publication on the Times website.)Thoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    We're More Secular Than Ever. How's That Going?

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 21, 2025 43:53


    How many times has your soul been saved? Probably not as many times as Michelle Cottle's.In this episode, Michelle, Carlos and Ross discuss Ross's new book, “Believe: Why Everyone Should Be Religious,” and explore the role religion should play in our lives and society.(A full transcript of this episode will be available within 24 hours of publication on the Times website.)Thoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    Don't Be Fooled, ‘Trump Is a Weak President'

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 14, 2025 45:11


    ow much is President Trump testing the Constitution? And what are the other branches of government doing about it? This week, David French and Jamelle Bouie join Carlos and Michelle to discuss how the courts and Congress could respond to Trump's latest actions and whether the Constitution is strong enough to withstand the challenges.Plus, the best-dressed Opinion columnist makes the case for his latest fashion obsession.(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) Thoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    Resistance, Where Art Thou?

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 7, 2025 43:13


    Gone are the days of pussy hats and massive protests. Where is the resistance to Donald Trump's second term?Lydia Polgreen and David French join this week to talk about the muted outcry to Trump and Musk's plans to upend the federal government and where the most effective forms of resistance may show up.Recommended in this episode:“Character Limit: How Elon Musk Destroyed Twitter” by Kate Conger and Ryan MacThoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440.A full transcript of this episode will be available within 24 hours of publication on the Times website.  Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    Steve Bannon on ‘Broligarchs' vs. Populism

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 31, 2025 70:28


    This week, Ross Douthat talks to Steve Bannon, the chief strategist from Donald Trump's first term and part of the original MAGA movement. Despite his clashes with new factions emerging in the Republican Party, Bannon argues that Trump is still central to advancing a populist agenda.(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) Thoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    King Trump

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 24, 2025 41:54


    Are we living through “American Carnage” the sequel, or Donald Trump's “Golden Age”? This week, Ross and Carlos welcome back Lydia to take stock of the president's first days in office and debate what his many norm-bending actions reveal about how he plans to govern.Plus, Lydia starts an adventure in mediocrity.(A full transcript of this episode will be available within 24 hours of publication on the Times website.)Recommended in this episode:“What I Learned When I Read 887 Pages of Project 2025” by Carlos LozadaThoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    How Democrats Drove Silicon Valley Into Trump's Arms

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 17, 2025 61:16


    The tech investor Marc Andreessen and his fellow Silicon Valley giant Elon Musk weren't always the Donald Trump supporters they are today. In this episode, Ross asks Andreessen, a founder of the venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz, about what led to Silicon Valley's rightward shift and the new agenda of the tech-right faction.(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) Thoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    The Pride and Tragedy of Joe Biden

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 10, 2025 35:21


    Is Joe Biden more of a Jimmy Carter or a James Buchanan? It may be years before the outgoing president's legacy is truly understood, but that didn't stop the hosts from debating how Biden's term in office will be remembered.(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) Thoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    An Atheist's Case for More Christianity in Politics

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 3, 2025 20:12


    We'll be back next week with a new episode, but in the meantime we're kicking off 2025 with a great conversation from our friends at “The Opinions.” In this episode, the New York Times Opinion columnist David French, a lifelong evangelical, speaks to Jonathan Rauch, an atheist and a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, about the crisis of Christianity in the United States and how faith might be the only way to redeem democracy.(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) Thoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    Two Books That Explain This Political Moment

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 27, 2024 15:44


    In this special year-end conversation, Carlos and his columnist colleague Pamela Paul each share one book that can help us understand and define our current moment.(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) Thoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    Our Mount Rushmore of Fictional Presidents

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 20, 2024 27:20


    Happy holidays! Our gift to you is full access to a recent subscribers-only bonus episode. After a “stranger than fiction” presidential race, the hosts take a deep dive into the messy movie and television plots that actually put this election to shame. Enjoy!(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) Thoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    What Biden Should Do in His Final Days in Office

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 13, 2024 20:46


    While we are off this week, we wanted to share a great piece from our colleagues. President Biden has only a few weeks left in office. Here's what he could do to optimize that remaining time — and improve his legacy. (A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) Thoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    The Highbrow and Lowbrow of the Trump Era

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 6, 2024 40:24


    Is Donald Trump the chicken or the egg? On the cusp of his second administration, the hosts of dissect whether the president-elect is a cause or symptom of trends in popular culture.Plus, Michelle brings all the nostalgia to the Christmas party.(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) Recommended in this episode:“The Shape of Water” directed by Guillermo del Toro“Yellowstone” created by Taylor Sheridan and John Linson“White Fragility: Why It's So Hard for White People to Talk About Racism” by Robin DiAngelo‘Erasure” by Percival Everett“American Fiction” directed by Cord Jefferson‘The Elementary Particles” by Michel Houellebecq“The Plot Against America” by Philip Roth“It Can't Happen Here” by Sinclair Lewis“Reagan: His Life and Legend” by Max BootThoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    Trump Turned My Immigrant Identity Into a ‘Chronic Condition.'

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 29, 2024 15:40


    We are off for Thanksgiving. But we have a special treat for you from “The Opinions,” a fellow New York Times Opinion podcast.After our own Carlos Lozada immigrated to the U.S. from Peru as a child, he never felt being an immigrant was his overriding identity. But after years of hearing Donald Trump talk about immigration, his feelings have changed. If you enjoyed this, subscribe to "The Opinions" wherever you get your podcasts.  Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    Our Mount Rushmore of Fictional Presidents

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 26, 2024 26:38


    After a “stranger than fiction” presidential race, the hosts take a deep dive into the messy movie and television plots that actually put this election to shame.Thoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    The Road to Trump's ‘Grand New Party'

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 22, 2024 56:33


    On this episode, Ross is joined by his good friend Reihan Salam, a former housemate and co-author and the president of the Manhattan Institute. As young conservatives, the two teamed up in the waning days of the George W. Bush era to write “Grand New Party: How Republicans Can Win the Working Class and Save the American Dream.”After Donald Trump's second election victory, the two look back at their prescriptions and debate what they got right and wrong about building a durable Republican majority.(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) Thoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    Gaetz and Gabbard and R.F.K. Jr. — Oh, My!

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 15, 2024 34:53


    As nominees roll in, the reality of Donald Trump's second administration is rapidly coming into focus. This week, Ross is joined by Opinion columnist David French to discuss the surprising picks and what they signal about the incoming president's policy shifts this time around.(A full transcript of this episode will be available within 24 hours of publication on the Times website.)Recommended in this episode:“There Will Always Be a Trump. That's Only Part of the Problem.,” by David French“What JD Vance Believes,” by Ross Douthat“Donald Trump Is Dead Serious About Getting Matt Gaetz to DOJ” by Marc CaputoThoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    TL;DR: Blame Biden

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 8, 2024 44:17


    The Democratic Party needs to take a look in the mirror, and fast. This week, our old friend Lydia Polgreen joins the hosts to dissect what went wrong for Democrats, and what kind of leadership the party needs to win back voters in Trump's America.Plus, something to do other than doomscrolling.(A full transcript of this audio essay will be available within 24 hours of publication in the audio player above.)Recommended in this episode:“A Party of Prigs and Pontificators Suffers a Humiliating Defeat” by Bret Stephens“Stop Pretending Trump Is Not Who We Are” by Carlos LozadaToshi ReagonThoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    Trumpism Is Not a Fad

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 6, 2024 23:40


    In this special post-election episode, the hosts take stock of Donald Trump's triumphant night and what a return of his right-wing populism says about America.(A full transcript of this audio essay will be available within 24 hours of publication in the audio player above.)Thoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    This Election Is the Tiebreaker Over Trumpism

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 1, 2024 46:05


    Is this really the most consequential election of our lifetimes?On this last episode of “Matter of Opinion” before the election, the hosts reflect on some defining moments of the campaign (other than President Biden dropping out), from Donald Trump's indictments to Project 2025 to Ron Desantis's lack of charisma. Plus, a visit from the ghosts of election nights past.(A full transcript of this audio essay will be available within 24 hours of publication in the audio player above.)Recommended in this episode:“Why Biden Is Unlikely to Defy the Naysayers” by Ross Douthat“Democrats Have a Better Option Than Biden” by Ezra Klein“The Presidential Fantasy Draft America Needs” from “Matter of Opinion”“The Woke Burnout Is Real — and Politics is Catching Up” from “Matter of Opinion”“Politics Without Winners: Can Either Party Build a Majority Coalition?” by Ruy Teixeira and Yuval Levin“Why the Heck Isn't She Running Away With This?” by David Brooks“The Polls Show a Dead Heat, but They Don't All Tell the Same Story” by Kristen Soltis AndersonThoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    Beyond Trump v. Harris: Control of Congress Comes Down to These Races

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 25, 2024 37:41


    There's a whole world of 2024 elections that don't involve Donald Trump or Kamala Harris. These races will be key to determining America's future. As we inch closer to Election Day, the hosts zoom in on the congressional races that reveal something deeper — and stranger — about our politics.Plus, Ross has a new Vice.(A full transcript of this audio essay will be available within 24 hours of publication in the audio player above.)Recommended in this episode:“The Hard Truth About Montana and Jon Tester's Senate Race” by Michelle Cottle“The Senate May Come Down to a Blue State Surprise” by Michelle Cottle“Tokyo Vice” on MaxThoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    A Pollster Helps Us Manage Our Election Anxiety

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 18, 2024 41:42


    Donald Trump and Kamala Harris have been neck and neck in the polls for weeks. But past elections have proved the polls wrong. Can we trust them this time? This week, the hosts are joined by Kristen Soltis Anderson, a Republican pollster and Times Opinion contributor, to talk through what polls can — and can't — tell us about how voting day will go.Plus, a taste for All Hallow's Eve.(A full transcript of this episode will be available within 24 hours of publication on the Times website.)Recommended in this episode:“The Selfie Vote” by Kristen Soltis Anderson“Millennials See the GOP as Old-Fashioned and Prejudiced. Here's How to Change That.” by Carlos Lozada in The Washington Post“These 9 Women Were Solidly With Trump. Here's What Has Changed.” by Patrick Healy, Kristen Soltis Anderson and Adrian J. RiveraThoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    Antichrists, Chainsaws and Natalism: A Very MoO Halloween Episode

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 16, 2024 27:35


    Michelle loves Halloween. Ross watches horror movies against his will. And Carlos is making textual comparisons across satanic franchises. It's a very MoO Halloween bonus ep, y'all!Share your favorite horror recs with us by emailing matterofopinion@nytimes.com or calling 212-556-7440. And tell us what we should chat about next time so Ross doesn't have to read “Return of the King” to us. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    The Divisions Roiling Beneath the Democratic Party's Joyful Exterior

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 11, 2024 48:05


    When Democrats coalesced around Kamala Harris this summer, they set their differences aside in the interest of preventing a second Trump presidency. But at what cost?On this episode, Lydia is joined by her fellow Opinion columnists Jamelle Bouie and Michelle Goldberg to discuss whether this temporary unity is good or bad for the future of the Democratic Party.(A full transcript of this episode will be available within 24 hours of publication on the Times website.)Recommended in this episode:“Poll Finds Harris Rising as She Challenges Trump on Change” by Adam Nagourney, Ruth Igielnik and Camille Baker“Kamala Harris and Tim Walz: More From Their ‘60 Minutes' Interviews” by Brit McCandless FarmerVice President Kamala Harris's interview on “The View”“Silicon Valley, the New Lobbying Monster” by Charles Duhigg in the New YorkerThoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

    Vance and Walz Need to Offer More Than Just Civility

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 4, 2024 37:29


    This week the hosts discuss what was obscured by the civility of the V.P. debate, and consider what JD Vance and Tim Walz really offer their running mates and their parties' futures.Plus, Michelle won't be washing away her stresses any time soon.(A full transcript of this episode will be available within 24 hours of publication on the Times website.)Recommended in this episode:‘There's a Trap Here': Four Columnists Brace for the Vance-Walz Debate by David Brooks, Ross Douthat, Tressie McMillan Cottom and Pamela PaulThoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440. Soon, you'll need a subscription to maintain access to this show's back catalog, and the back catalogs of other New York Times podcasts, on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Don't miss out on exploring all of our shows, featuring everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts.

    From QAnon to Diddy: The Blurred Lines of Conspiracy Theory and Reality

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 27, 2024 41:40


    This week we're taking a break from the election and turn our attention to the allegations against Sean Combs: Where has #MeToo succeeded or fallen short? And what happens when the lines blur between rumor mill and conspiracy theory? The Opinion columnist Tressie McMillan Cottom and the Opinion writer Jessica Grose join the conversation. Plus, Jessica has a recommendation for Plath-heads.(A full transcript of this episode will be available on the Times website.)Recommended in this episode:“With Love, Sean Combs” by Tressie McMillian Cottom in Vanity Fair“Sean Combs and the Limits of the ‘Family Man' Defense” by Jess Grose“Entitled | How Male Privilege Hurts Women” by Kate Manne, who coined the term “himpathy”“#MeToo Comes for the Archbishop” by Ross Douthat“Why We Can't Quit Brad Pitt” by Scaachi Koul in Slate“Red Comet” by Heather ClarkThoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440.

    Fine, Let's Do What JD Vance Wants: Talk About Immigration

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 20, 2024 38:45


    Donald Trump and JD Vance have sparked panic over immigration in Springfield, Ohio. This week, the hosts talk about why our country's immigration debate is now focused on a distraction instead of the core of the issue.Plus, Ross is hot and cold about a particular pet obsession.(A full transcript of this episode will be available within 24 hours of publication on the Times website.)Recommended in this episode:"Trump Has Crossed a Truly Unacceptable Line" by Lydia Polgreen"What  JD Vance Believes" by Ross Douthat“How the Trump Campaign Ran With Rumors About Pet-Eating Migrants — After Being Told They Weren't True” by Kris Maher, Valerie Bauerlein and Tawnell D. Hobbs in The Wall Street JournalThe Real ‘Border Czar' Defends the Biden-Harris Record, “The Ezra Klein Show”“Go West” by Lily Lynch in The Baffler“Melting Pot or Civil War? A Son of Immigrants Makes the Case Against Open Borders” by Reihan Salam“Chimp Crazy" on HBOThoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440.

    How Much More Does Harris Need to Say to Win?

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 13, 2024 34:40


    Kamala Harris may have won the debate by baiting Donald Trump. But is it enough to sway undecided voters?This week on “Matter of Opinion,” the Opinion columnist Jamelle Bouie joins our hosts to talk about how each campaign should reconsider its nominee's visibility in the next seven weeks to win the White House.Plus, Michelle wants to be seen less.Want to see the Valentine's Day card for C-SPAN that Carlos's kids made him? Click hereThoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440.

    Debating David French: Can a Vote for Harris Save the G.O.P.?

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 6, 2024 54:04


    Opinion columnist David French is voting for Kamala Harris to save conservatism. Ross  is… skeptical. On this very special episode, the two Christian conservatives debate how to chart the right's course out of Trumpism and to the future.(A full transcript of this episode will be available on the Times website.)Recommended in this episode:“To Save Conservatism From Itself, I Am Voting for Harris” by David French“This Is Probably Not the Deal the Pro-Life Movement Bargained for With Trump” by Ross DouthatThoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440.

    Carlos Read Kamala Harris's Memoirs. Here's How She's Evolved.

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 30, 2024 10:12


    While we take a quick summer break, we wanted to recommend a new show: “The Opinions.”  Four times a week, in ten minutes or less, you'll hear one of our columnists — Matter of Opinion hosts included — walk you through their take on an issue or idea you might not have considered. It's like the Opinion pages come to life.In this episode, our very own Carlos shares what he learned reading Kamala Harris's two memoirs. He reflects on how her criminal justice message has changed over time, and considers what that may reveal about her candidacy. Listen and subscribe to "The Opinions" on Apple, Spotify  or wherever you get your podcasts.Thoughts about Matter of Opinion? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440.

    What We Learned About Harris — and the Democrats — This Week

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 23, 2024 35:26


    The hosts react to Kamala Harris's convention speech in this special late-night edition of “Matter of Opinion”. Lydia, Ross and Carlos unpack how Harris had a “deft threading of a number of tricky needles” as she accepted her party's nomination, and look at what the entire week revealed about the Democratic Party.(A full transcript of this episode will be available on the Times website.)Thoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440.

    JD Vance and the Dueling Visions of the American Family

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 16, 2024 44:01


    If you believe JD Vance, the American family is in crisis. But are attacks on “childless cat ladies” and pitches for enfranchising kids actual policy platforms or merely culture war cudgels?This week on “Matter of Opinion,” Jessica Grose joins Michelle, Ross and Carlos to debate the weird ways gender and family are showing up in the election and share their own roads to parenthood.Plus, Jessica suggests a deep dive into a culture of “tin pot dictators wearing LoveShackFancy.”(A full transcript of this episode will be available within 24 hours of publication on the Times website.)Recommended in this episode:“Red Families vs. Blue Families: Legal Polarization and the Creation of the Culture” by Naomi Cahn and June Carbone“The Two-Parent Privilege: How Americans Stopped Getting Married and Started Falling Behind” by Melissa S. Kearney“The Party of Julia” by Ross Douthat“Welcome to Bama Confidential,” Anne Helen Peterson's essay series on her Culture Study newsletterThoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440.

    Tim Walz Is Vibing

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 9, 2024 38:54


    This week on the show, Michelle Goldberg joins Michelle  and Ross to debate the gambles or gains Kamala Harris has made by picking  Gov. Tim Walz of Minnesota as her running mate. They also discuss the ways the Trump-Vance ticket could recalibrate to regain their lead. Plus, Goldberg is sunny on a new show you probably haven't heard of.(A full transcript of this episode will be available within 24 hours of publication on the Times website.)Recommended in this episode:Don't Listen to the Right. The Kamalanomenon Is Real. by Michelle GoldbergThe Focus Group Podcast episode “Kamala Needs a DEI Pick (Straight White Dude)” with Sarah LongwellSunny from Apple TV+Thoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440.

    ‘Mountain Dew and Racism': Identity Enters the Election

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 2, 2024 38:07


    The 2024 presidential race is officially in its identity politics stage. From “White Dudes for Harris,” to “D.E.I. candidate” accusations, the hosts debate how race and racism are being deployed in the second week of the Harris v. Trump election.(A full transcript of this episode will be available within 24 hours of publication on the Times website.)Mentioned in this episode:“Dreams From My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance” by Barack Obama“Rising Stare: The Making of Obama” by David J. Garrow“Barack Obama: The Story” by David Maraniss“The Olympic Flame Isn't a Flame at All” by Andrew KehThoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440.

    Has Kamala Harris Changed? Or Have We?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 26, 2024 40:18


    Vice President Kamala Harris has gone from being one of President Biden's many problems to the hope of the Democratic Party. This week Ross, Lydia and Carlos dissect the seismic campaign vibe shift in both parties. Plus, Ross criticizes another self-indulgent addition to the modern era's Western canon.(A full transcript of this episode will be available within 24 hours of publication on the Times website.)Mentioned in this episode:Ross Douthat, David French, Michelle Goldberg, and Lydia Polgreen: Is It a Mistake for Democrats to Go All In on Harris? Four Columnists on the Party's Moves.Harris's Michigan event on abortionHarris's first presidential rally in Milwaukee speechThoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440.

    Trump Anoints Himself

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 19, 2024 27:25


    The former president was expected to offer “unity” in his convention acceptance speech. But, after a wild week, the speech revealed the same old Donald Trump. In this episode, the hosts debate: Is Trump a “man of destiny”?(A full transcript of this episode will be available within 24 hours of publication on the Times website.)Recommended in this episode:Donald Trump, Man of DestinyThoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440.

    Who's at the Wheel of the Democratic Party?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 12, 2024 34:51


    “The dam is breaking!” Have the Democrats reached their “break glass in case of emergency” moment? This week, Michelle, Ross and Lydia dig into the Democratic Party fissures, consider what could happen if President Biden refuses to bow out, and debate just how much this moment mirrors the Republican scramble against Trump in 2016.(A full transcript of this episode will be available within 24 hours of publication on the Times website.)Mentioned in this episode:George Clooney: I Love Joe Biden. But We Need a New Nominee.The Case for Joe Biden by Ross DouthatEzra Klein: A Path to Defeat from “The Bulwark Podcast”Thoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440.

    Who Should Lead the Democratic Ticket? Six Columnists Weigh In.

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 4, 2024 29:48


    Matter of Opinion is off this week, but the news hasn't stopped. So this week we're bringing you something from columnists across New York Times Opinion. With President Biden's candidacy in question, we asked them: Who would you like to see as the Democratic nominee? These are their answers.Lydia Polgreen on the case for Vice President Kamala HarrisNicholas Kristof on the case for Gov. Gretchen Whitmer of MichiganRoss Douthat on the case for Senator Joe ManchinPamela Paul on the case for Gov. Wes Moore of MarylandDavid French on the case for Gov. Josh Shapiro of PennsylvaniaCharles Blow on the case for President Biden(A full transcript of this episode will be available within 24 hours of publication on the Times website.)If your opinion has changed on President Biden since the debate, we want to hear from you, too. What do you hope to see happen before the Democratic convention? Leave us a voice mail at 212-556-7440 or email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.comThis audio essay was originally made for the NYT Audio App, free for Times subscribers in the Apple App Store. 

    Is Biden Too Old? America Got Its Answer.

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 28, 2024 47:14


    Ezra Klein joins Ross and Michelle to dissect the first presidential debate of 2024: “At some point Democrats have to decide if they want to try to win this election, or it is simply too uncomfortable for them to do anything but be on this train as it derails.”(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) Thoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440.

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