The Will To Change: Uncovering True Stories of Diversity & Inclusion

In this episode, originally recorded as a community call, Jennifer is joined by Eduardo Placer of Fearless Communicators and a circle of visionary voices. Together, they explore what it means to show up as a thought leader in today's shifting landscape, offering insights on storytelling, presence, vulnerability, and reclaiming space in a world that often pushes marginalized voices to the sidelines. You'll hear reflections on building authentic connection with audiences, navigating the pressure to conform, and why now is the time to speak your truth with clarity and courage. Whether you're a speaker, changemaker, or purpose-driven professional, this conversation will leave you inspired to step into your light.

In this episode, Jennifer is joined by author Sarah Miller as they explore the deeply intimate and complex relationship between journalist Lorena “Hick” Hickok and First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt. Drawing from Sarah's extensive research and thousands of personal letters, they discuss how love, identity, and intimacy were expressed—and often obscured—before the language of modern queer identity existed. Together, they reflect on how this relationship redefines historical narratives, challenges binary thinking, and uplifts queer voices too often overlooked. This episode offers a powerful reminder to younger generations that they have always existed, and that queer love, in all its forms, has always found a way.

In this reflective minisode of The Will to Change, Jennifer dives deep into the evolving meaning of mentorship in today's chaotic and uncertain world. With traditional hierarchies dissolving and institutional pathways in flux, she explores how we can reframe mentoring as reciprocal “wisdom partnerships” that nourish, empower, and expand our sense of purpose. Speaking candidly to underrepresented leaders, especially those in midlife, Jennifer unpacks the emotional and cultural barriers to asking for support, including imposter syndrome, exhaustion, and the fear of burdening others. She calls listeners to embrace the courage to connect, redefine power beyond position, and actively invest in the diverse, multi-directional relationships that will shape our next chapter. Whether you're seeking clarity, community, or the confidence to ask for more, this episode is a timely invitation to build your own network for reinvention.

In this minisode, Jennifer reflects on her conversation with author and futurist Jamais Cascio, exploring how today's leaders can rethink resilience, leadership, and empathy in a chaotic, unpredictable world. She unpacks the shift away from outdated models of “fail fast” and constant optimization, instead embracing the power of slowing down, practicing grace, and cultivating humility and flexibility. Jennifer examines how naming what feels incomprehensible can restore agency, why active empathy is essential across differences, and how leaders can ground themselves like deep roots — steady, adaptable, and able to hold space for uncertainty while nurturing the brilliance of others.

Join Jennifer in this thoughtful and eye-opening conversation with author and futurist Jamais Cascio as they explore how to navigate a world defined by chaos, uncertainty, and nonlinearity. Together, they unpack why the old models of resilience no longer serve us, why the moral universe looks more like a squiggle than a straight arc, and how leaders can embrace flexibility, active empathy, and interconnectedness to move forward. With deep insights into the BANI (Brittle, Anxious, Nonlinear, Incomprehensible) framework, Jamais offers a powerful reframing of how we make meaning, foster belonging, and lead with intention in times when nothing feels predictable — inviting listeners to dance with complexity instead of resisting it.

In this reflective minisode, Jennifer Brown looks back on her recent experience speaking at the House of Beautiful Business PolyOpportunity Gathering—just days after undergoing emergency surgery. From a place of physical vulnerability and emotional clarity, she shares insights on what it meant to show up raw and real, and how that moment sparked deeper questions about the disintegration of traditional DEI frameworks, the paradox of belonging without othering, and the need to compost old methods in order to grow something new. This is an invitation to pause, reflect, and consider what must be released—and what can be reimagined—in this evolving chapter of change work.

In this episode, Jennifer is joined by leadership expert and power strategist Julie Diamond, Ph.D  to explore how different kinds of power operate in our lives—from the brute force we see on the world stage to the quieter, often overlooked personal and relational powers that shape real change. Together, they unpack the emotional and psychological toll of living through what feels like a leadership crisis, examine the shifting power dynamics since 2020, and discuss what it means to lead with integrity, curiosity, and resilience in times of instability. This candid and timely conversation invites listeners to reflect on their own relationship to power and how we might reclaim agency—even when we feel stunned by the world around us.

In this episode, Jennifer is joined by future of work activist and speaker Josh Allan Dykstra for a wide-ranging conversation about what it means to live and lead through the end of a cycle. They explore the concept of the fourth turning, the discomfort of the liminal space, and the challenges of holding on to systems, identities, and movements that no longer serve. Drawing from their experiences in DEI, leadership, and organizational change, they reflect on the tension between burnout and renewal, the limitations of performative change, and the opportunity to reimagine what comes next. Together, they consider how to move through uncertainty with intention, and what it means to prepare for the season ahead by asking different questions, letting go of outdated models, and listening for what needs to emerge.

This episode features a conversation between Jennifer and writer and speaker Jocelyn K. Glei about navigating personal and professional transitions in uncertain times. They explore the discomfort of liminal spaces, the challenges of letting go of established identities, and the importance of acknowledging both achievements and losses. Jocelyn offers insights on embracing "generative discomfort," moving from expertise to experimentation, and remembering our inherent wisdom during periods of change. As they discuss the metaphor of caterpillar-to-butterfly transformation, Jennifer and Jocelyn reflect on how periods of uncertainty can be powerful training grounds for creativity and renewal, particularly relevant as they navigate political shifts and professional transformations in 2025.

In this minisode, Jennifer takes us on a candid exploration of her transformative journey as an author. She shares the messy, beautiful process of finding her voice, confronting imposter syndrome, and discovering that your first book doesn't need to be perfect—it just needs to exist. She also offers insights about navigating the publishing world, working with editors who truly understand your vision, and redefining success beyond bestseller lists. Whether you're contemplating writing your first book or looking to expand beyond your established expertise, her reflections reveal how the act of writing can break open self-imposed containers, unearth your hidden wisdom, and create unexpected pathways in your career.

In this episode of "The Will to Change," Jennifer talks with futurist Heather McGowan about navigating societal shifts and our future. Heather draws parallels between now and the 1920s, discussing how pandemics reorder society, and explores how human history cycles between individual and collective mindsets. She advises embracing change, emphasizing rebuilding "bridging capital" by connecting with people different from ourselves. The conversation covers AI as a tool for advancement, leadership evolution, and finding stability amid disruption by focusing on our sphere of influence rather than global anxieties.

In this episode, host Jennifer Brown welcomes publisher and thought leadership expert Jenn T. Grace to discuss building your platform as an author and speaker. They explore the journey from idea to impact, addressing challenges like imposter syndrome and finding your voice in a crowded marketplace. Jenn shares insights on publishing options—comparing traditional, self, and hybrid publishing—while noting that shorter books often perform better for busy audiences. The discussion covers the relationship between books and speaking careers, the importance of assembling a support team, and strategies for sharing your authentic self through written and spoken content. Whether you're beginning to explore your thought leadership or looking to grow your existing platform, this episode offers practical wisdom for crafting and sharing your message effectively.

In this episode Jennifer welcomes Karen Catlin to celebrate the 10-year anniversary of her Better Allies initiative. From its humble beginnings as an anonymous Twitter account to a comprehensive movement with four published books, Karen shares the evolution of her work in creating more inclusive workplaces. The conversation explores the significant milestones that have shaped conversations around inclusion, from "Lean In" to the racial reckoning of 2020 to the rise of AI. Karen and Jennifer reflect on the courage required to learn in public, the importance of resilience when making mistakes, and why vulnerability is essential for authentic leadership.

In this episode, we explore the art of professional reinvention with Dr. Yvette C. Burton, who transitioned from corporate DEI leadership to cybersecurity later in her career. Dr. Burton shares how to leverage existing skills while embracing new challenges, identifying where your passions align with marketable expertise, and strategically reintroducing yourself to your network during transitions. Whether facing forced change or choosing a new direction, this conversation offers practical wisdom on navigating career crossroads with confidence and purpose in today's unpredictable professional landscape.

In part two of this special two-part minisode, Jennifer explores the final elements of the BANI framework (Non-linear and Incomprehensible) and their antidotes for navigating our complex world. She delves into how improvisation serves as the essential response to non-linearity, encouraging listeners to practice pivoting rather than clinging to rigid plans in a world where predictability has become obsolete. The episode examines how collective sense-making and inclusivity help us face incomprehensibility, emphasizing that "when the world no longer makes sense, we don't solve it alone." Tune in to hear insights on embracing darkness as fertile ground for wisdom, and what new tools and approaches might be necessary in this era of profound change and uncertainty.

In part one of this special two-part minisode, Jennifer shares her reflections from snowy Woodstock on seasons of change and transformation at this pivotal moment between winter and spring. Speaking from her own experience of profound transitions, Jennifer explores how nature's rhythms - from the sap preparing to run in trees to the vast networks of connection happening beneath the frozen ground - mirror our own processes of change and renewal. She introduces a powerful new framework that goes beyond VUCA (volatile, uncertain, complex, ambiguous) to help us understand today's rapidly shifting landscape, and shares insights on moving from brittleness to resilience. Through personal stories and thoughtful observations, Jennifer invites us to consider how we might bend rather than break in times of profound change, and find creativity and hope in the quiet work of transformation.

In this thought-provoking conversation, Jennifer welcomes back Jenn T. Grace, founder of Publish Your Purpose Press, to discuss the intersection of AI, publishing, and thought leadership. The discussion explores how artificial intelligence is reshaping the publishing landscape, from the challenges of protecting intellectual property to the opportunities for enhanced creativity. Jenn shares valuable insights on the distinction between AI-assisted and AI-generated content, the importance of maintaining authentic human voices in thought leadership, and Amazon's evolving approach to AI-generated books.    

In this special episode, Jennifer takes a moment during the podcast's January hiatus to reflect on transformations in both personal and professional spheres, while setting the stage for new directions in upcoming episodes. She shares her journey from vocal performer to DEI consultant, including the sale of her company. As she announces a brief break until February, she challenges ideas of resilience and growth, suggesting that transformation requires periods of dissolution and rest - themes that will shape future episodes. This episode marks a turning point for the podcast, examining how leaders, organizations, and fields of work might need to break down old frameworks to emerge anew, especially in today's DEI landscape.

From the Best of The Will to Change: In this episode, originally recorded for the Beyond Barriers Podcast, Jennifer discusses her own career journey and how to motivate yourself and others. Discover how to create a community of inclusion and the importance of making sure that all voices are heard. Jennifer also shares tips about developing your own personal brand and standing up in your power.   

In this episode, Jennifer welcomes back returning guest Eduardo Placer, a dynamic keynote speaker, charismatic event emcee, and global facilitator known for building bridges to belonging through story. Together, they explore the evolving landscape of leadership through the rich metaphor of orchestral music. Drawing from their experiences in both performance and organizational development, they unpack how traditional models of leadership are transforming from solo performances to symphonic collaborations. Using the powerful analogy of musical instruments and orchestral dynamics, they discuss how leaders must learn to both resonate authentically and harmonize with others, adapting their "instruments" to changing conditions while maintaining their unique voice. Eduardo and Jennifer delve into critical questions about leadership in uncertain times: When should we step forward as soloists, and when should we blend into the chorus? How do we prepare our instruments for unknown future performances? Discover fresh insights into the challenges and opportunities of leadership in 2025 and beyond.

In this episode, originally recorded for the Live Your Possible Podcast with host Darrin Tulley (CEO and Chief of Possibilities @ Ignite Happy), Jennifer explores strategies for creating inclusive workplaces, the concept of 360-degree allyship, and how leaders can foster psychological safety in their teams. She discusses why organizations must move beyond surface-level changes to address systemic issues, how to navigate workplace transformations in a hybrid world, and what it means to be an inclusive leader during times of uncertainty. The conversation provides actionable insights for leaders looking to build cultures of belonging where everyone can thrive, while examining how authenticity and vulnerability can drive meaningful organizational change.

In this episode Jennifer engages in a timely conversation with Jen Stark and Jared Green, co-directors of the Center for Business and Social Justice, about their Social Justice Guide for Business and its implications in the wake of recent political developments. The discussion explores how companies can navigate DEI initiatives and social justice work during challenging times, examining the evolution from standalone programs to integrated approaches. The guests share insights on economic inclusion, identity politics, and the role of businesses in advancing social justice while adapting to changing political landscapes. They reflect on the sustainability of various DEI tools and metrics, including corporate equality indexes, while considering how organizations can maintain progress on inclusion even as traditional accountability measures face new pressures. The conversation offers both pragmatic strategies and hopeful perspectives on the future of social justice work in business.

This episode, originally recorded as a Community Call, features a conversation with John Grosshandler, Co-founder of the GenderCool Project, and a panel of parent advocates who are working to transform corporate America through trans inclusion. Joined by corporate leaders who are parents of trans youth, the discussion explores how personal experience shapes workplace leadership and activism. From GenderCool's mission to replace misinformed opinions with positive experiences, to strategies for building corporate support networks, these leaders share stories of challenge and triumph. They discuss how companies are evolving their approach to trans inclusion, the impact of storytelling, and why parents are emerging as key advocates in the fight for LGBTQ+ rights.

In this episode, Jennifer and her podcast producer explore the power of slowing down in times of change. Drawing from Viktor Frankl, Buddhist teachings, and farming practices, they challenge hustle culture and discuss how the energy used to maintain things is the energy needed for change. They examine how periods of rest - like fields in farming - create growth. This conversation offers a view on work transitions, particularly in DEI work, and shows that in times of uncertainty, strength comes from the choice to pause, reflect, and find new paths forward.

Author, speaker, and consultant Lily Zheng returns to The Will To Change to discuss their new book, DEI Deconstructed, which centers on accountable and effective practices to achieve DEI outcomes in organizations. Discover why even leaders with the best of intentions find it difficult to achieve the DEI outcomes they desire. Lily also discusses the outcomes that they typically advise leaders to achieve and how to measure them. They also reveal how they work with leaders who may be resistant to DEI efforts.

In this unique and timely episode, Jennifer and Doug Foresta, producer of the Will to Change, come together just days after the 2024 election to share words of wisdom, comfort, and perspective for changemakers who may be feeling discouraged. Through powerful quotes and thoughtful discussion, they explore themes of grief, resilience, and the importance of both bonding within communities and building bridges across divides. Jennifer and Doug remind listeners that periods of uncertainty and transition can be opportunities for deep reflection, reimagining strategies, and finding new ways forward while staying grounded in hope and community.  

In recognition of Diwali, we are re-airing this episode, which features a conversation between Jennifer Brown and Mita Mallick, Head of Inclusion, Equity and Impact at Carta.  Jennifer and Mita discuss the importance of authentic and accurate representation of diverse cultures in the media. The conversation stemmed from a LinkedIn post by Mita about her reaction to the Diwali episode of And Just Like That, a revival of the HBO television series Sex and the City. Mita breaks down the episode, which was described in a Vogue article as a “messy tangle of misnomers and misappropriation.” Mita also discusses the exhaustion many people from marginalized communities feel, and what allies can do to help.

Step inside the world of U.S. intelligence agencies with Stephanie LaRue, Chief Diversity Officer for the U.S. Intelligence Community, as she reveals how she's transforming culture across 18 federal intelligence organizations. From her unexpected journey as a first-generation American and CIA attorney to becoming one of the youngest executives in the Senior National Intelligence Service, Stephanie shares candid insights about driving change in the world's most complex bureaucracy. Learn how she's measuring progress through innovative maturity models, building bridges across agencies, and why diversity isn't just about recruitment—it's mission-critical to national security. Tune in for a rare glimpse into leadership at the highest levels of government service. 

In this episode, Jennifer is joined by Tiffany Yu, disability advocate, author, and founder of Diversability, for a discussion about the evolution of disability rights and inclusion. Tiffany shares her journey from accident survivor to changemaker, offering insights into disability advocacy. She also discusses approaches to raising awareness, including grassroots organizing, social media, and her book "The Anti-Ableist Manifesto." The conversation covers the nature of social change, resilience in advocacy work, and Tiffany's vision for disability inclusion.

This episode was recorded for the Farsight Chat podcast and is being shared with permission on the Will to Change. Host Farah Bala discusses unconscious bias with Harvard University experts Dr. Tessa Charlesworth and Caitlin Finton. The conversation covers implicit bias, the Harvard Implicit Association Test, and research on bias evolution. Topics include the decrease in some biases, the persistence of others, global perspectives on bias, and strategies for combating prejudices. The guests address criticisms of the IAT and explain its value in understanding cultural biases. They also explore the concept of intersectionality, examining how different biases interact, particularly around race and wealth.

Join Jennifer as she welcomes Farah Bala, founder and CEO of FARSIGHT, in a conversation about the evolving landscape of DEI in the workplace. Farah shares insights from her journey of transforming "Farsight Friday" into the more expansive "Farsight Chats" podcast, exploring how leaders can make DEI a core competency in today's rapidly changing business environment. Farah also discusses the challenges of navigating generational expectations, embracing authenticity in the workplace, and leading through the "messy middle" of progress.

This episode, originally recorded as a community call, features a conversation with Blair Imani, author, content creator, and DEI advocate. Blair discusses her transition from crisis communications to social media education, explaining how she simplifies complex DEI topics. She also addresses DEI language evolution, neurodiversity in advocacy, and balancing authenticity with accuracy online. Discover strategies for adapting while maintaining mission integrity.

This episode was originally recorded as a Community Call and features a conversation with Bridges Holmes, VP of DEI and Sustainability at The Adecco Group. The discussion explores Bridges' role in integrating DEI initiatives into sales strategies at Adecco. Bridges shares insights on developing a DEI sales toolkit, conducting live training sessions, and the challenges of changing "old school thinking" within the organization. The conversation highlights the importance of authentic engagement in DEI work, the evolving expectations of clients regarding diversity initiatives, and the need for sales professionals to become more comfortable discussing these topics. 

In this episode, Mira Dewji, a former corporate lawyer turned DEI strategist, shares her perspective on the landscape of diversity, equity, and inclusion in the legal industry. Drawing from her experiences at a law firm, Mira explores the challenges in implementing DEI initiatives within conservative legal cultures. She discusses the shift from compliance-focused approaches to business-driven DEI efforts, emphasizing the importance of behavioral science and organizational change. Mira delves into the impact of generational differences, changing client demographics, and the demand for moral leadership in shaping DEI in law firms.

In this episode, we explore imposter syndrome with Dr. Valerie Young, a global thought leader on the topic and co-founder of the Impostor Syndrome Institute. Jennifer and Dr. Young discuss the evolution of imposter syndrome and its prevalence among various groups. Dr. Young introduces her "humble realist" concept and suggests strategies for organizations to address imposter syndrome. The conversation covers intersections with diversity and inclusion efforts, reframing competence, and addressing self-doubt in the workplace. To learn more about Dr. Young and her work, visit www.ImpostorSyndrome.com.

Tune in for a conversation with Dr. Stacy Hobson, Director of the Responsible Technologies Research group at IBM Research, as we delve into the critical intersection of ethics and artificial intelligence. In this eye-opening episode, Dr. Hobson shares her journey from rural South Carolina to leading cutting-edge research in responsible AI development, illuminating the challenges and paramount importance of creating ethical, unbiased AI systems. Discover how IBM Research is tackling the complex task of balancing rapid technological advancement with careful consideration of AI's societal impacts. Dr. Hobson also discusses the need for diverse perspectives in AI development, the global nature of AI ethics, and the power shifts that AI can create in society.

In this episode, we explore the intersection of masculinity, politics, and social change with author, speaker, and consultant, Mark Greene.  The conversation covers male engagement in the electoral process and the cultural shift in expressions of manhood. Mark discusses the move from traditional masculinity towards more empathetic approaches and its effects on workplace dynamics and leadership. The discussion extends to nurturing emotional intelligence in younger generations, proposing initiatives to address social and emotional learning. Tune in to hear insights on political activism, workplace culture, and the future of masculinity.

In this episode Jennifer is joined by Dr. Cheryl Ingram, Founder & CEO of Inclusology, a pioneering DEI assessment platform, as they dive deep into the challenges and opportunities facing DEI work today. Drawing from her extensive experience and insights from her upcoming book, Dr. Ingram explores how the field has evolved from its roots in multiculturalism to its current form – and the crises it now faces. Jennifer and Dr. Ingram also tackle tough questions about addressing systemic issues and workplace trauma, the impact of recent backlash and legal challenges, and how practitioners can maintain resilience and effectiveness in turbulent times. 

In this episode, we welcome Dr. Tania Israel, Professor of Counseling Psychology at UC Santa Barbara and author of the forthcoming book "Facing the Fracture: How to Navigate the Challenges of Living in a Divided Nation." Dr. Israel delves into the complexities of our politically fractured society, offering fresh perspectives on misinformation, polarization, and the psychological impacts of living in a divided country. Drawing from her extensive research and clinical experience, Dr. Israel shares valuable insights on maintaining personal well-being and workplace unity amidst political tensions. 

This episode, originally recorded for the Smart Gets Paid podcast, and hosted by Leah Neaderthal, explores how being queer has positively impacted business ownership. Leah shares her personal journey of coming out 20 years ago and how it has shaped her approach to business, from challenging assumptions to expressing herself authentically. She also invites Jennifer and other fellow queer business owners to share their experiences. These entrepreneurs discuss how their queer identities have fostered resilience, creativity, and a unique perspective in their work. 

In this episode, we welcome Loren Gesinsky, Partner at Seyfarth Shaw LLP, to discuss the critical importance of disability inclusion in the workplace and society at large. Loren shares his personal journey from employment lawyer to passionate disability rights advocate, offering valuable insights into the evolution of disability inclusion practices. He also explores the challenges and opportunities in recognizing various types of disabilities, including invisible disabilities and mental health issues, and emphasizes the power of creating environments where people feel comfortable self-identifying. Discover the concept of universal design, the business case for disability inclusion, and the role of leadership in advancing these efforts.

This "Best of The Will to Change" episode, features an interview with Joze Piranian, Global TEDx Speaker and a lifelong stutterer turned transformational speaker on inclusion and resilience. Joze also shared information about stuttering, and revealed what he has learned from his own journey. 

In this episode, we talk with Yemi Akisanya, VP of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion at Axon, a technology company serving law enforcement and public safety. Yemi discusses his journey from finance to DEI leadership and his innovative approach to implementing DEI strategies in a complex industry. He also explains how he aligns DEI initiatives with Axon's mission to protect life, accelerate justice, and capture truth. Yemi shares insights on his data-driven methods, moving beyond traditional DEI programs, and embedding inclusive leadership throughout the organization. Discover the challenges and opportunities of DEI in law enforcement technology, including product development informed by DEI principles and community feedback.

This episode features an interview with AJ Hikes, Deputy Executive Director for Strategy & Culture at the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU). This discussion covers everything from healing the harm caused by racist bias within organizations, to integrating justice into diversity, equity & inclusion work, to the exclusionary nature of our modern legal system.

In this episode, Jennifer speaks with Maureen O'Neill. SVP and Diversity, Equity & Inclusion Officer at Consilio, about her journey from litigation to leading DEI efforts in a rapidly growing global professional services company. Maureen shares insights on creating and scaling DEI initiatives, including employee resource groups and advisory boards, while navigating industry-specific challenges in the legal tech world. She discusses the importance of balancing quantitative metrics with qualitative aspects of inclusion, the critical skills needed for DEI leadership, and the long-term impact of fostering a culture of belonging. Join us for a candid conversation about the art and science of corporate DEI, and the continuous evolution required to make meaningful progress in this vital field.

In this episode of The Will to Change, Jennifer sits down with Sterling Cruz-Herr, a trans elder, educator, and activist. They discuss Sterling's journey of self-discovery, the importance of intergenerational learning within the LGBTQ+ community, and the challenges faced by marginalized groups in today's society. Sterling also shares their experiences teaching "Trans 101" to older generations, highlighting the hunger for knowledge and the desire to remain relevant among elders. The conversation also touches on the exclusion faced by trans individuals within the lesbian community and the need for greater inclusivity and understanding. Discover the power of empathy, the importance of allyship, and the transformative potential of embracing a "they" mindset – one that celebrates diversity, kindness, and unconditional love.  

In this special Pride Month roll-up episode of The Will to Change, Jennifer and Doug revisit powerful conversations with past guests who share insights on navigating DEI work in today's challenging climate. They discuss highlights from episodes featuring Lily on making DEI work "boring" to reach more people; Dr. Elijah on the importance of naming identities and allyship; Rhodes on knowing your audience when communicating about DEI; and Erik, Senior Vice President of Global Small Business at Dell Technologies, on how belonging at work can be life-changing for LGBTQ+ employees. Throughout the episode, Jennifer reflects on key lessons and offers advice for DEI practitioners and leaders committed to advancing inclusion in complex times.

In this episode Jennifer shares her process for preparing and delivering keynotes that go beyond simply giving a speech. She discusses the importance of being consultative, collecting information, and calibrating with clients before, during, and after the event. Jennifer also reveals how she engages the audience through interactive polling, uses the data to provide valuable insights to clients, and tailors her message to meet the needs of laggards, learners, and leaders in the room. She reflects on the changing landscape of DEI speaking engagements and the need to adapt language and approaches to draw people into the conversation. Throughout the discussion, Jennifer emphasizes the significance of creating a meaningful experience that leaves a lasting impact on the audience. Join us for this conversation about the art and science of keynote speaking in the DEI space.

In this conversation, originally recorded as a Community Call, Jennifer welcomes Lucida Plummer, Managing Director and Chief Diversity Officer at Evercore, to discuss the challenges and strategies for advancing diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) within organizations. Lucida shares her experience leading DEI efforts at various companies, emphasizing the importance of adapting strategies to meet organizations where they are, navigating the landscape of DEI work, and celebrating wins along the journey. Together, they explore the need to rethink DEI approaches and confront personal biases as DEI leaders. Throughout the discussion, Lucida offers insights on tailoring DEI strategies for impact and finding purpose in the nature of this work.

Mark McBride-Wright, author of "The Safe Leader" and Founder & CEO of EqualEngineers, joins Jennifer,  Jenn T. Grace of Publish Your Purpose, and Eduardo Placer of Fearless Communicators to discuss the critical importance of diversity, equity and inclusion in the engineering and STEM fields. Mark shares his journey of writing the book, the support he received from Jennifer, Jenn and Eduardo along the way, and his mission to change the culture in engineering to one where everyone can feel safe to bring their whole authentic selves to work. The group explores how creating psychological safety is key to making progress on DEI goals and reducing the unacceptably high rates of suicide and mental health struggles prevalent in the engineering industry today. Mark's work provides a new vocabulary and framework for tackling these challenges and has the potential to revolutionize the way we approach DEI across all industries.

In this episode, we dive deep into the fight against discrimination in the retail industry with Calla Devlin, Managing Director of the transformative organization Open to All. Through Calla's insights and the inspiring work of Open to All, we explore the multidimensional challenges of bias and exclusion in retail and the innovative strategies being employed to drive systemic change. From groundbreaking partnerships with companies like Yelp to the creation of comprehensive resources and trainings, Open to All is at the forefront of a growing movement to reimagine retail as a space of true belonging for all. Join us as we examine the human and business costs of discrimination, the power of collaboration to break down barriers, and the unstoppable momentum of the inclusion revolution.