Podcast appearances and mentions of brian house

Alzheimer's is not just an aging issue but a lifelong brain health challenge that has major economic and societal implications. George Vradenburg, Chairman and Founder of UsAgainstAlzheimer's, discusses the recent launch of the “Brian House” at Davos World Economic Forum with host Meryl Comer.  The conversation covers several crucial topics, including the potential role of AI in enhancing brain capacity, the state of Alzheimer's research funding, and the importance of diverse representation in clinical trials. Vradenburg emphasizes the global scope of the challenge stating that brain disorders are now the world's leading cause of disability with projected costs reaching $8-10 trillion by 2050.  You don't want to miss this informative episode!Support the show

This time we talk with a fascinating sound artist and composer Mack met at a recent meeting of the Society for Literature, Science, and the Arts. As his website puts it, “Brian House is an artist who explores the interdependent rhythms of the body, technology, and the environment. His background in both computer science and noise music informs his research-based practice. Recent interests include AI, telegraphy, and urban rats.” If that description looks a little daunting on the screen, the work itself sounds really cool to cris and Mack. We'll listen to three pieces of Brian's: a composition that imprints motion-tracking data on collectible vinyl, a field recording from the Okavango Delta in Botswana, and an encounter with the wildlife that put the “burrows” in New York's five boroughs. Links to works discussed: Quotidian Record (2012), Urban Intonation (2017). Mack notes that it was incredible to edit this episode using Daniel Fishkin's daxophone arrangement of John Cage's “Ryoanji” (1983). The other music on today's episode is by Brian House and Graeme Gibson. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/new-books-network

This time we talk with a fascinating sound artist and composer Mack met at a recent meeting of the Society for Literature, Science, and the Arts. As his website puts it, “Brian House is an artist who explores the interdependent rhythms of the body, technology, and the environment. His background in both computer science and noise music informs his research-based practice. Recent interests include AI, telegraphy, and urban rats.” If that description looks a little daunting on the screen, the work itself sounds really cool to cris and Mack. We'll listen to three pieces of Brian's: a composition that imprints motion-tracking data on collectible vinyl, a field recording from the Okavango Delta in Botswana, and an encounter with the wildlife that put the “burrows” in New York's five boroughs. Links to works discussed: Quotidian Record (2012), Urban Intonation (2017). Mack notes that it was incredible to edit this episode using Daniel Fishkin's daxophone arrangement of John Cage's “Ryoanji” (1983). The other music on today's episode is by Brian House and Graeme Gibson. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/music

This time we talk with a fascinating sound artist and composer Mack met at a recent meeting of the Society for Literature, Science, and the Arts. As his website puts it, “Brian House is an artist who explores the interdependent rhythms of the body, technology, and the environment. His background in both computer science and noise music informs his research-based practice. Recent interests include AI, telegraphy, and urban rats.” If that description looks a little daunting on the screen, the work itself sounds really cool to cris and Mack. We'll listen to three pieces of Brian's: a composition that imprints motion-tracking data on collectible vinyl, a field recording from the Okavango Delta in Botswana, and an encounter with the wildlife that put the “burrows” in New York's five boroughs. Links to works discussed: Quotidian Record (2012), Urban Intonation (2017). Mack notes that it was incredible to edit this episode using Daniel Fishkin's daxophone arrangement of John Cage's “Ryoanji” (1983). The other music on today's episode is by Brian House and Graeme Gibson. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/sound-studies

In this week's episode, Beau chats with Brain House from Housemade.us about the power of collaboration. Recently we popped by his shop and raced to see who would put together one of his Revolution 2x72 belt grinders the fastest. If missed it you can watch it here We decided it would be awesome to chat about how collaborating with others can help grow your business. He shares how he finds people to collaborate with, the red flags you want to avoid, and then ends the episode by advising on working on yourself to put out the best work possible.  Connect with Brian Instagram @housemade.us Website - Housemade.us YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@HouseMadeUS Thank You To Our Trusted Partners Learn more about the Renegade Volt from ESAB - https://foxly.link/EcZEEi Learn more about the X-Fume Pro from Abicor Binzel - ⁠https://foxly.link/lUVEtV⁠ Learn more about the Lincoln Electric Power MIG 215 - ⁠https://foxly.link/hMWuTN⁠ Learn more about the Thermacut EXTRA-FIRE - ⁠https://foxly.link/KnrZrx⁠ Connect with Beau Weld App @beaudidit Instagram @beaudiditwelding Email - ⁠Beauw@weld.com⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Download the weld app today⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠linktr.ee/WeldDotCom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/welddotcom/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/welddotcom/support

Brian House of HouseMade Industrial is back for a little hang out. We talked podcasting and what's going on his great podcast ‘Work for it”. The business end of the maker community is less talked about than what we see on social media. It's always good catching up with Brian! Thanks again, - GFFollow Brian on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/housemade.us/Visit HouseMade.US and check out what Brian has to offer.https://housemade.us/ Listen to Work For It Podcast:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/work-for-it/id1515893920If you want to support Full Blast Support  Feder Knives - https://www.federknives.com/Follow The Full Blast Podcast on Instagram:https://instagram.com/thefullblastpodcast?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=Please subscribe, leave a review and tell your friends about the show. it helps me out a lot! Thank you Baker Forge & Tool for your beautiful Steel. Go to Bakerforge.com to see all the incredible steels they offer. ‘FullBlast' gets you 10% off your orderWelcome to our new Sponsor- EVENHEAT- Manufacturers of the best heat treating ovens available.  To find your next oven go to Evenheat-kiln.comFollow them on Instagram: Brodbeck Ironworks Makers of an Incredibly versatile grinder, with Many different attachmentsLeather sewing equipment and even abrasives Check out Brodbeck Ironworks for yourself:https://brodbeckironworks.com/“Knifetalk10” gets you 10% off Follow Brodbeck Ironworks on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/brodbeck_ironworks/Trojan Horse Forge Get your THF Stabile Rail knife finishing vise at https://www.trojanhorseforge.com/And when you use the promo code “FULLBLAST10 you get 10%off everything on the site.Follow them on instagram:https://www.instagram.com/trojan_horse_forge/ TotalBoatAdhesives, paints, primers and polishing compounds.Go to http://totalboat.com/FULLBLASTTo support the podcastWelcome G.L.Hanson and SonsG.L. Hansen & Sons On Instagramhttps://instagram.com/g.l._hansenandsons?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== Gcarta.bigcartel.comG-Carta is unique composite of natural fibers and fabrics mixed with epoxy under pressure and heat Boofa, ripple cut, Tuxini, by Mikie, Mahi Mahi, Radio worm g-cartaPhesant by MikieColorama by MikieHoopla by MikeAmazing colors and razzle dazzle for your project. MARITIME KNIFE SUPPLIESMaritimeknifesupply.CAAll your knifemaking needs, belts abrasive, steals, kilns forges presses, heat treating ovens anvils and everything you need to get started or resupply. Including Dr. Thomas's book:“Knife Engineering”They're in Canada but ship to the US with ease and you can take advantage of the exchange rate The steel selection is always growing and Lawrence just got 3900 lbs. of steel in.10% off on abrasive belt packs of 10 get a hold of https://www.instagram.com/maritimeknifesupply/ and see what the fuss is about.Nordic Edge makes pro tools for knife makers.These are the guys behind the original file guide with screw-on carbides.Made from non-magnetic stainless steel it will never rust and steel dust will not stick to it.Giving Makers The Edge Since 2015."Nordic Edge:Nordic Edge is based in Australia, you might have seen them at Blade Show in Atlanta.Nordic Edge tools are available at some suppliers in the US as well as another Fullblast supporter Maritime Knife Supplies in Canada.Nordic Edge ran the 2022 Maker Giveback campaign now in December 2022, where $5 from every order went to Kev Slattery's multiple disc spinal surgery. Kev was a guest on the Fullblast podcast in October 2022.Welcome Tormek as a sponsor to the show. Take your sharpening to a new level. I love these sharpening machines. Waterfed, easy to use. Jigs included. Definitely check out what they have to offer. If you need it sharpened, Tormek is definitely something for you:https://tormek.com/en/inspiration/woodworking--craftsGo look at the course curriculum at CMA:https://centerformetalarts.org/workshops/** Taking classes from some of the best in forging at one of the best facilities in the country is an excellent opportunity to propel yourself as a blacksmith. Not to be missed. And with housing on the campus it's a great way to get yourself to the next level. Visit CMA's website:https://centerformetalarts.org/There are still spots available for my next Forged Friction Folder workshop at CMASept 2-3https://centerformetalarts.org/product/friction-folder/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This week we are joined by our friend, Brian Housewert of ⁠@housemade.us⁠ You can check out all he and his team have to offer at: ⁠https://housemade.us/⁠ Get all your 2x72 needs covered, buy a forge, a drill press table, or some accessories. You can also find him on ⁠@workforit.podcast⁠ Please also consider supporting our sponsors: @⁠Saburrtooth Tools ⁠for all of your Power Carving needs. Use code "WH" for 10% off ⁠@maritimeknifesupply⁠ ⁠https://maritimeknifesupply.ca/⁠ for all of your knife supplies and more!  @gnomehammerforge has all the details on next months prize  Join in on the discussion via our email at ⁠workinghandspodcast@gmail.com⁠ or Follow us on IG: ⁠Working Hands Podcast Account⁠ ⁠Tik Tok⁠ ⁠Patreon⁠ grab some ⁠MERCH⁠ Tony Woodland ⁠@woodlandiron⁠ Keith Drennan ⁠@blackthornconcepts⁠ If you would like to support the show: ⁠Click Here⁠ leave a 5-star review, and most importantly - Tell a friend to listen!

In this week's episode, Beau chats with Brain House founder and owner of Housemade.us who revolutionized the modern forge by creating his Apollo forge which uses a fraction of the fuel as a traditional forge. He talks about how his whole life changed after he learned CNC and how to weld, unlocking his passion for working with his hands. He also talks about his philosophy of doing business, leaving a legacy instead of being a “smash and grabber” and how he has grown a following by showing the process when developing his Revolution Grinder and Apollo forge. Check out all of Brian's work. www.housemade.us @housemade.us Thank you to all of our sponsors For more information on Lincoln Electric's Ranger Air 260 MPX head over to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.lincolnelectric.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ For more info on all of Donaldson's equipment ⁠⁠Click Here⁠⁠ Want to be on the show or have a topic you would like to hear about? Connect with Beau on the Weld App @beaudidit or beauw@weld.com Download the weld app today ⁠⁠linktr.ee/WeldDotCom --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/welddotcom/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/welddotcom/support

Brian House is Back! From Housemade Industries and the Work for it Podcast Brian rejoins me to talk about what's been going on with him including roll out of the Apollo Forge, The Revolution Grinder and all the crazy things coming out of his shop. This man is busy and it was great actually meeting him in person at Maker's Camp. We also talking about business practice and how the perspective of time and experience inform the decisions for being in business. Brian's the man and you keep up to date on what he's got going on...Thanks Brian for coming on the podcast again, I look forward to seeing you again- GF Follow Brian on IG:https://instagram.com/housemade.us?igshid=MzMyNGUyNmU2YQ==Subscribe to his Youtube Channel:https://m.youtube.com/@HouseMadeUSGive Work For It Podcast a Listen: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/work-for-it/id1515893920Support  Feder Knives - https://www.federknives.com/Follow The Full Blast Podcast on Instagram:https://instagram.com/thefullblastpodcast?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=Please subscribe, leave a review and tell your friends about the show. it helps me out a lot! Thank you Baker Forge & Tool for your beautiful Steel. Go to Bakerforge.com to see all the incredible steels they offer. ‘FullBlast' gets you 10% off your orderWelcome to our new Sponsor- EVENHEAT- Manufacturers of the best heat treating ovens available.  To find your next oven go to Evenheat-kiln.comFollow them on Instagram: Brodbeck Ironworks Makers of an Incredibly versatile grinder, with Many different attachmentsLeather sewing equipment and even abrasives Check out Brodbeck Ironworks for yourself:https://brodbeckironworks.com/“Knifetalk10” gets you 10% off Follow Brodbeck Ironworks on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/brodbeck_ironworks/Trojan Horse Forge Get your THF Stabile Rail knife finishing vise at https://www.trojanhorseforge.com/And when you use the promo code “FULLBLAST10 you get 10%off everything on the site.Follow them on instagram:https://www.instagram.com/trojan_horse_forge/ TotalBoatAdhesives, paints, primers and polishing compounds.Go to http://totalboat.com/FULLBLASTTo support the podcastWelcome G.L.Hanson and SonsG.L. Hansen & Sons On Instagramhttps://instagram.com/g.l._hansenandsons?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== Gcarta.bigcartel.comG-Carta is unique composite of natural fibers and fabrics mixed with epoxy under pressure and heat Boofa, ripple cut, Tuxini, by Mikie, Mahi Mahi, Radio worm g-cartaPhesant by MikieColorama by MikieHoopla by MikeAmazing colors and razzle dazzle for your project. MARITIME KNIFE SUPPLIESMaritimeknifesupply.CAAll your knifemaking needs, belts abrasive, steals, kilns forges presses, heat treating ovens anvils and everything you need to get started or resupply. Including Dr. Thomas's book:“Knife Engineering”They're in Canada but ship to the US with ease and you can take advantage of the exchange rate The steel selection is always growing and Lawrence just got 3900 lbs. of steel in.10% off on abrasive belt packs of 10 get a hold of https://www.instagram.com/maritimeknifesupply/ and see what the fuss is about.Nordic Edge makes pro tools for knife makers.These are the guys behind the original file guide with screw-on carbides.Made from non-magnetic stainless steel it will never rust and steel dust will not stick to it.Giving Makers The Edge Since 2015."Nordic Edge:Nordic Edge is based in Australia, you might have seen them at Blade Show in Atlanta.Nordic Edge tools are available at some suppliers in the US as well as another Fullblast supporter Maritime Knife Supplies in Canada.Nordic Edge ran the 2022 Maker Giveback campaign now in December 2022, where $5 from every order went to Kev Slattery's multiple disc spinal surgery. Kev was a guest on the Fullblast podcast in October 2022.Welcome Tormek as a sponsor to the show. Take your sharpening to a new level. I love these sharpening machines. Waterfed, easy to use. Jigs included. Definitely check out what they have to offer. If you need it sharpened, Tormek is definitely something for you:https://tormek.com/en/inspiration/woodworking--craftsGo look at the course curriculum at CMA:https://centerformetalarts.org/workshops/** Taking classes from some of the best in forging at one of the best facilities in the country is an excellent opportunity to propel yourself as a blacksmith. Not to be missed. And with housing on the campus it's a great way to get yourself to the next level. Visit CMA's website:https://centerformetalarts.org/There are still spots available for my next Forged Friction Folder workshop at CMASept 2-3https://centerformetalarts.org/product/friction-folder/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Support our sponsor at: https://pwncnc.com/ Find the podcast at: https://www.instagram.com/MakeshiftPodcast/ If you'd like to support us on Patreon, check out: https://www.patreon.com/MakeshiftPodcast Find Cory at: https://www.instagram.com/odyssey_cnc/ Find Chris at: https://www.instagram.com/full_steam_designs/ https://www.youtube.com/chrispowellfsd https://www.youtube.com/fullsteamdesigns Find out Guest at: https://www.instagram.com/housemade.us/

This week we're joined by Brian House of Housemade.us to discuss business in the workshop. Support our sponsor at: https://pwncnc.com/ Find the podcast at: https://www.instagram.com/MakeshiftPodcast/ If you'd like to support us on Patreon, check out: https://www.patreon.com/MakeshiftPodcast Find Cory at: https://www.instagram.com/odyssey_cnc/ Find Chris at: https://www.instagram.com/full_steam_designs/ https://www.youtube.com/chrispowellfsd https://www.youtube.com/fullsteamdesigns

Brian House is in the house to discuss everything from business to cults in Missouri. Find the podcast at: https://www.instagram.com/MakeshiftPodcast/ If you'd like to support us on Patreon, check out:  https://www.patreon.com/MakeshiftPodcast Find Cory at: https://www.instagram.com/odyssey_cnc/ Find Chris at: https://www.instagram.com/full_steam_designs/ https://www.youtube.com/chrispowellfsd https://www.youtube.com/fullsteamdesigns Find out Guest at: https://www.instagram.com/housemade.us/

Scoot talks to Brian House from Metairie Bank about the impact that the success of a business like Hubig's Pies can have on the local economy

A man was found dead in Monroeville Tuesday morning. The case remained under investigation at press time on Wednesday. According to Monroeville Police Lt. Brian House, officers responded to a reported medical emergency Tuesday morning at a residence on the corner of West Claiborne Street and Feagin Avenue in Monroeville. When officers arrived on scene, they found the remains of a Clarke County man named Jack Dozier, District Attorney Todd Watson said. He is apparently Jack Wesley Dozier who had also lived in Thomasville. Watson confirmed that Dozier was living at the residence at 413 West Claiborne Street. This residence...Article Link

This week, Adam and Grant are joined by Brian House of HouseMade Industrial to discuss how much luck plays a part in your success.Mentions:Outliers by Malcolm GladwellStuff made hereJimmy DirestaAustin SaundersKeith DrennanOur Clampmendations for this week:Grant:  Maker Camp Adam:   Welcome to WrexhamBrian: Make Shift PodcastThank you to our top patrons:Tripp SouthernJarrad JenkinsScott Oram from Dad It Yourself DIYBrent Jarvis from Clean Cut WoodworkingVincent Ferrari from Because We MakeGreg Walley from Platte Valley WoodworksJustin Oeffler from Bear MakedMiguel Angel Vilela from miguev_makesJoe HrdinaJordan KuzniaBrian House - @housemade.us on Instagram, YouTube and at linkpop.com/housemadeAdam - @makermackey on Youtube and Instagram and at makermackey.comGrant - @thegrantalexander on Youtube and Instagram and at thegrantalexander.comMorley - @morleykert on Youtube and Instagram, and at morleykert.comCollectively - @clampcast on Instagram , on  YouTube and at clampcast.com!Support the show

This Crossover is actually kind of a part 2. Last week I was on the Work For it Podcast with Brian House and Bryan Kohn and we had a fun time there. The episode is titled “Blast off with Geoff Feder” and feel free to listen to it before this one. But you'll get what's going on  if you don't. I listen to the Work for it Podcast every thursday and enjoy it so you should too. This episode was interesting because we touched on an issue that's going on in the maker community and I was completely un aware of it. So I had an unbiased take based on what I was presented with. We talked small biz stuff, raising kids, generational responsibility and these guys were fun to have on. Open invite. Next time we'll get Ben on too. Listen to these guys and support their show Follow The Work For it Podcast  on instagram: https://www.instagram.com/workforit.podcast/Hashtag #WFIPROJECTS to get shout outs or join their patron:https://www.patreon.com/workforitFollow Brian House on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/housemade.us/Follow Bryan Kohn on instagram:https://www.instagram.com/b.kohnknives/And their Cohost Ben Butler on instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/butlerbuilt.us/Follow Full Blast and interact with the show on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/thefullblastpodcast/Visit CMA's website:https://centerformetalarts.org/***DON'T MISS THE CAMBRIA CONFERENCE SEPTEMBER 17TH! Tap here for details: https://centerformetalarts.org/cambria-iron-conference-2/There are still spots available for my next Forged Friction Folder workshop at CMASept 3 & 4th:https://centerformetalarts.org/product/friction-folder/Please subscribe, leave a review and tell your friends about the show. it helps me out a lot! Welcome TotalBoatAdhesives, paints, primers and polishing compounds.Go to https://www.totalboat.com/And put in “Fullblast10” for 10% off Go get yourself some all natural , food safe Axe WaxGo to https://axewax.us/And get 10% off with promocode: FULLBLAST10AkinteractiveGet your Website designed by AK Interactive, Consultation, Graphic Design, logos, Signage design. 25+ years experience in FULL SERVICE Website design, Graphic design and marketing for knife makers and all Craftsman:http://akinteractive.com/fullblast10% off with promo code: FULLBLAST10Brodbeck Ironworks Makers of an Incredibly versatile grinder, with Many different attachmentsLeather sewing equipment and even abrasives Go to Brodbeckironworks.com put in promo code Knifetalk and get the upgrade to the Mareko platen. Get your Blacksmith hammers from John Erianne akahttps://www.instagram.com/sunsetforgenj/http://sunsetforgenj.com/new-productsGo look at the course curriculum at CMA:https://centerformetalarts.org/workshops/** Taking classes from some of the best in forging at one of the best facilities in the country is an excellent opportunity to propel yourself as a blacksmith. Not to be missed. And with housing on the campus it's a great way to get yourself to the next level. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Ep 21 For a recap of Blade show with someone who was actually there lol. We're joined by the one and only Brian House. Brian https://www.instagram.com/housemade.us/ Support us at https://www.patreon.com/fireandsteelpodcast Find us at https://www.instagram.com/fireandsteelpodcast/            https://www.facebook.com/MurrillandSon/  www.fireandsteelpodcast.com  Email toby@tobyfireandsteel.com Onur  https://www.instagram.com/diesineveryfilm/ Youtube https://www.youtube.com/user/Diesineveryfilm Show sponsor UKnifemaker Supplies https://www.instagram.com/uknifemakersupplies/ https://www.facebook.com/UKnifemaker-Supplies-115420697027398 www.uknifemakersupplies.co.uk  UK Knife Maker Beginner Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/816973399135620/

In this episode we take a deep dive into 2x72 grinders, blacksmithing, growing a business and using passion to push you through. Please join us for a great chat with Brian. You can see more of his work here: Youtube Website Instagram Facebook Group Show hosts can be found in these links: Dean Duplantis Christy from Twisted Twine Woodworking Austin from High Caliber Craftsman

Ep 7 One word PATREON. Oh and the flippin one and only Brian House is in the house. We chat a whole load of business sense including product development, patents and of course making your own luck through HARD WORK.   #hardworkgoodluck https://www.patreon.com/fireandsteelpodcast Brian https://www.instagram.com/housemade.us/ Find us at https://www.instagram.com/fireandsteelpodcast/            https://www.facebook.com/MurrillandSon/  www.fireandsteelpodcast.com  Email toby@tobyfireandsteel.com Onur  https://www.instagram.com/diesineveryfilm/ Youtube https://www.youtube.com/user/Diesineveryfilm Show sponsor UKnifemaker Supplies https://www.instagram.com/uknifemakersupplies/ https://www.facebook.com/UKnifemaker-Supplies-115420697027398 www.uknifemakersupplies.co.uk  UK Knife Maker Beginner Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/816973399135620/

The Guys are back and they are joined by the crew of The Work For It Podcast. You're listening to the second half of the Smash Up episode, so make sure you go over to the Work For It Podcast to listen to the first half, if you haven't already.Check out The Art of Craftsmanship on YouTube, Instagram, and Patreon here...youtube.com/theartofcraftsmanship@theartofcraftsmanship@theartofcameraguypatreon.com/theartofcraftsmanshipCheck out the Work For It guys, Brian and Bryan on YouTube and Instagram here...Brian House@housemade.ushttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWpoMY02BlRpomw2qQXrRngBryan Kohnhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOdEhPeKNd8iI1eGM0QFjnA@bkohnknives

Brian House is a maker who sold his computer business to put all his efforts into his new Grinder Business: Housemade Industrial. Home of the Revolution Project. He's also a knifemaker, YouTuber and host of the Work For It Podcast on the Makers Network. We had a great time when he first came on and I'm glad he made it back. We talked about a lot of things and had a fun time as always. I'm fascinated by his positivity and focus even as he moderates the wildly popular Facebook Group: DIY Belt Grinders & Machines. Brian is a great guy and I enjoy his perspective and friendship. Links:Follow Brian on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/housemade.us/Follow Work for it Podcast:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/work-for-it/id1515893920Go buy a grinder from him:https://housemade.us/Follow The Full Blast Podcast on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/thefullblastpodcast/Please subscribe, leave a review and tell your friends about the show. it helps me out a lot! Go get yourself some all natural , food safe Axe WaxGo to https://axewax.us/And get 10% off with promocode: FULLBLAST10AkinteractiveGet your Website designed by AK Interactive, Consultation, Graphic Design, logos, Signage design. 20+ years experience in Full service design and marketing for knife makers and Craftsman:http://akinteractive.com/fullblast10% off with promo code: FULLBLAST10Thank you Total Boat. https://www.totalboat.com/Go to https://isotunes.com/To get the next generation of hearing protectionGet $10 off with promocode  FULLBLAST10Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Nate and Scott chat with Brian House from the YouTube channel House Work. Brian has created the Revolution DIY 2X72 kit, a grinder that can be used for knife making and many other projects. They discuss it's versatility, uses, and also talk about YouTube, craftsmanship, shop skills and much more.   0:00 Intro 1:42 Anvils 6:21 Background & YT 14:25 Invention process 17:19 Giving away details 20:35 Art & passion 23:25 Versatility 27:50 Knives 32:48 A partners help 37:51 Shop skills 43:01 Speed control 45:21 Costs 48:20 Innovation 50:12 Website construction 53:52 Customers 57:00 Bare bones tool kit 59:45 Craftsman journey 1:04:10 Where to find   Website: https://housemade.us/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/CaptainHouseFlorida Facebook: DIY grinders and machines

On this 10th episode we are joined by Mr. Revolution himself, Brian House!!! We talk all about the side hustle, grinders, and dive into wood stabilization!! This was a fun one for sure!!

Brian House is a busy guy: Bee keeper, charter boat captain, Voiceover guy Entrepreneur, Maker, Youtuber, Podcast host?! I can’t believe he had the time to do this podcast. Brian is a fascinating guy who I have had the privilege to talk to and its always good. What makes him tick? Where will he go from here? You’ll have to find out out!  Go follow Brian on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/house__work/ Visit his website for his Grinder Kit: https://housemade.us/ Listen to his podcast on The Makery Network: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/work-for-it/id1515893920 Follow his podcast on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/workforit.podcast/ Go get yourself some all natural food safe Axe Wax Go to https://axewax.us/ And get 10% off with promocode: FULLBLAST10 Go to https://isotunes.com/ To get the next generation of hearing protection Get $10 off with promocode FULLBLAST10 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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EP012 - Electric Vehicle Analyst at EVAdoption, Loren McDonald http://www.vehicle2.getspiffy.com Episode 12 is an interview with Loren McDonald, Electric Vehicle Analyst at EVAdoption; recorded on July 1st, 2019. Loren and Scot dive deep into the world of EVs, including such topics as: The growth of total EV market share in the U.S., broken down by state. Exploring Loren’s CARMA EV adoption framework. Breaking down lithium-ion vs solid-state batteries, as well as their 7-year cost trajectory. Emerging companies like Rivian and Workhorse, who are pushing for EV usage in non-traditional segments. The expansion of EV charging infrastructure, including where charging stations are growing and where they’re still needed. Tracking federal EV tax credits as they begin to phase out. Check out Loren’s work at EVAdoption.com, as well as his book Gas Station Zero! If you enjoyed this episode, please write us a review on iTunes! The four pillars of Vehicle 2.0 are electrification, connectivity, autonomy, and changing ownership models. In the Vehicle 2.0 Podcast, we will look at the future of the auto industry through guest expert interviews, deep dives into specific topics, news coverage, and hot takes with instant analysis on what the latest breaking news means for today and in time to come. This episode was produced and sound engineered by Jackson Balling and hosted by Scot Wingo.   Transcript: Scot: [00:56] Welcome to the Vehicle 2.0 Podcast. This is episode 12 and it's being recorded July 1st, 2019. Welcome back Vehicle 2.0 listeners. Uh, we're recording this here in early July. Hopefully this has given you some content for your July 4th travels. Uh, in this episode we have a real exciting treat for you. We're excited to welcome on the show, Loren McDonald. He's the author of the book "Gas Station Zero", editor and contributor to EVAdoption.com contributor to Clean Technica and an all around EV expert. Welcome to the Vehicle 2.0 Podcast. Loren! Loren: [01:31] Great. Thanks for having me, Scott. Really excited about the conversation today. Scot: [01:35] Yeah, me too. We've, uh, I've, I've been a f a Twitter follower and, and read a lot of your content. Um, you know, I think what I've found as I've dug into, I come from the ecommerce world and as I've dug into this world, uh, there's, there's not many people that actually have original content. There's a lot of republishing of the same kind of stuff. And, uh, what I love about your content is, you know, very originally sourced and in a lot of unique thinking there. Before we dig into that though, um, let's talk about your career path. What, what got you into this automotive motive space and writing on this topic? Loren: [02:10] Yeah. So I, I'm, you know, complete outsider, if you will, to the, the automotive and in EV world. I started my career in marketing and PR way, way back in 1984. So 35 years into kind of my, my marketing consulting career have been, uh, you know, CML marketing executive consultant at, uh, a variety of companies over the years. Mostly sort of BDB professional services. But the last a sort of 15, 20 years in the marketing technology space, um, and really kind of the last 15 years spend functioning as a, as a marketing evangelists are flying around the world. Uh, speaking at conferences, meeting with clients, doing a lot of writing and research and stuff. And ultimately that's, you know, kind of the transition to what I'm, I'm doing in the electric vehicle space. Uh, about five years ago I started a blog where I was writing about all things green. Loren: [03:04] The use the, the name Loren Green. If, uh, you, uh, older people on this, they'll get the, uh, the connection there with Lauren Green, the old a actor from the high chaparral. But, uh, what I was doing was writing about a bit of everything and sort of the green space, everything from how to reduce, uh, you know, packaging and, uh, increase recycling and reduce use of water. This was back in the days of, uh, the drought in California, solar power and electric vehicles. And what I quickly found was as I couldn't sort of be an expert on all of those topics and I decided, uh, to sort of pick electric vehicles and that was the one that I was sort of most intrigued by about how are we going to sort of solve this problem, right? Well, what is going to drive people to actually want to, uh, uh, you know, transition to electric vehicles. Loren: [03:58] So that sort of when I started about three years ago, uh, the Evie adoption site and as you mentioned also sort of riding for clean, technical, etc. And so really have, you know, taken my career as sort of a marketer and consultant and strategist and somebody focused on research and data and have tried to focus, uh, on that aspect of them solving the problem, using data of when, you know, when are consumers going to, uh, you know, adopt, uh, electric vehicles, uh, in a, in a really significant way. Well, and is this your first full time gig now or are kind of still a hobby? Wish it was Scott. I'm working towards that. Um, but, uh, it, it is something I do is sort of, uh, on the side, if you will. So a lot of, a lot, a lot of weekends, uh, uh, and, and, and evenings and things like that. Loren: [04:55] But, uh, you know, instead of, uh, instead of being out working in the yard or, or riding a bicycle or spending time with my wife on weekends, I'm uh, you know, chained to my laptop, writing articles and doing great research. But I have to ask, uh, do you drive an Evie? I do. At the moment we actually have two Tesla model essence. Uh, so, uh, got our first one, two and a half years ago and actually just picked up or actually it was delivered to our house. Uh, the second one last, last Sunday. And I've gone from the low end model s which had, uh, about, uh, 200 and a little under 210 miles of range to one that now is 335 miles of range. And so I'm really excited to, uh, put that to the test on road trips when we take our daughter back to us college in southern California later this summer. So a show, we'll, we'll, we'll dive into these and road trips a little bit later in this conversation. Yeah. Cool. Yeah, I'm a, Scot: [05:58] I had a model s or a pretty early on in 2012 and then a side graded to a model three, so, so also live in that as la UV lifestyle with you. Loren: [06:07] Nice, Nice. Scot: [06:09] Cool. We're here on the podcast. We have a framework for the Vehicle 2.0 framework where we talk about the four big changes coming to the auto industry. We talk about connected car changing ownership models, uh, autonomy, and then of course, uh, evs. So we want to spend the bulk of our time with you talking about evs. I thought it'd be good to kind of, you know, talk about kind of from a timeframe perspective, uh, where you see things today in the u s and then we can kind of expand from there. Loren: [06:36] Yeah. So we're, we're really quite, quite early for any, uh, sort of, uh, techie geeks. I, I refer to this, we're probably in the palm trio phase. I don't know. Scott, did you ever own a palm trio? Uh, I did. Yes, you did. Yes. And you'd know what I'm talking about, right? We're, we're in that phase of, of where primarily sort of early adopters and I, and I use technology and, and I'm a big fan of, of um, uh, the sort of that w what's commonly known as the technology adoption curve. This idea of how consumers, basically, with any sort of new technology product, they start off kind of the innovators, uh, you know, really, uh, only, uh, for geeks people that are willing, uh, and can afford to sort of pay more for products they want to, uh, own or drive, whatever the latest and greatest thing is. Loren: [07:29] And then it Kinda goes up ultimately into, um, what's called sort of the, you know, early majority, late majority then, then, then laggards. And in, in most markets in the u s and around the world, we're still in that sort of innovator phase of, you know, kind of under two and a half percent. Um, it obviously varies dramatically by market, but in, in the u s today across the u s worried about 2%, meaning, uh, two out of every 100 a new vehicles that are purchased across the US today are electric vehicles. And when I say electric, um, I'm including in that both what we call PHEV plug in hybrids. Those are things like the, the Chevrolet volts and the um, the Ford fusion energy where it has a small battery pack and you can uh, uh, drive on a what's typically anywhere from sort of 20 to have a little under 50 miles range on electric. Loren: [08:30] And then gas engine kicks, kicks in, but you can then recharge that battery, um, by, by plugging it in at home or the workplace or whatever. And then a, what we refer to as be evs, battery electric vehicles. And those are things as you and I talked about, the Tesla model s uh, and three, the Chevrolet Bolt, uh, many, many other factors that, uh, only have electric motors and battery packs is so fully electric. And, um, so again, where we are today in the u s is, uh, is about 2%, but then when you break the country down, it is sort of, we have a fascinating picture, Scott, in that it varies sort of dramatically by sort of state and market. So California finished 2018 at just under 8%, meaning, uh, you know, that almost, and we should hit and we actually hit the 10% in the last few months of, of 2010, we'll probably finish 2019 little under 10%. Loren: [09:31] But in essence, in California, across the entire state, one out of 10 of every new vehicles purchased, uh, is an electric car. And, uh, and most of them, in fact, about 40% of them are, are the Tesla model three these days. But then if you go to a state such as, you know, Oklahoma or Louisiana or whatever it is, it's like 0.2, 2%. And so literally what we have is we have this sort of huge dichotomy and chasm in the United States where you have California, where people are literally buying evs at a rate of 40 to 50 times that of people in, in sort of southern states. And so it's, it's sort of really fascinating. And then if you break that down even further in a, in a city like Palo Alto, which is obviously a sort of a wealthy higher income, high tech community, we're approaching 50%, literally one out of every two cars being purchased there are, are electric. Um, and now where I live in, in the bay area, in the suburbs, we're at about 15%, 20%. And so, you know, that's a long answer to your question Scott, but, but fundamentally, no, across the u s we are still really, really early. But if you look at sort of individual markets, we are sort of well down in the path of adoption. Scot: [10:53] Yeah. Very cool. Um, and then I've seen, I think I've seen Tesla or I can't remember who talked about it, but there's a certain definition of a car where, where they're one of the top sellers where, you know, I think they put the model three into a, uh, you know, a price range, and then it's like a four door, and then in that category of they're outselling the BMWs and Mercedes, the Honda's and the, you know, so another interesting slice where you're starting to see, you know, the, a fair amount of adoption within a pretty narrow definition. Loren: [11:22] Yeah. If you look at sort of the, that sort of luxury sedan market, if you will. So the, the, uh, as you mentioned, sort of, you know, the, the, the BMW three series, Audi a fours, uh, the Mercedes c class, uh, the, the, uh, Lexis, yes. I believes in that market and stuff. The Tesla model three is actually crushing it, right. In sort of that, uh, sort of, you know, 30 to 40, you know, 30 to thousand dollars, depending on what configuration you get of those different vehicles. The, you know, the model three is, uh, uh, is, is, you know, outselling all of those cars by a pretty significant way. And so what's, what's interesting about that, Scott, is that, well, we're seeing the most of the u s and Japanese automakers still sort of laggards on, on launching new models. The German car makers get this right because they're the ones that are actually seeing sort of direct competition from Tesla. I actually start to eat it into either end of the market share and I know we're going to sort of dive into that a little bit more, uh, in a bit. But that's sort of a, a fascinating sort of side effect of, of Tesla success. Scot: [12:33] Cool. And then, um, I know you've done a lot of really interesting research kind of putting on your, your consumer marketing hat about, you know, what I guess what's, what's driving adoption in, in areas like California and Palo Alto, and then, you know, what's slowing down adoption, what are, what are some of the consumer insights you've drawn from that? Loren: [12:53] Yeah. So, you know, fundamentally, again, what I came up with this framework, uh, about three years ago that I called Karma c a r m a the sort of as a way to kind of think about, um, what are the different factors that that will ultimately drive mass adoption of electric vehicles and, and you know, sort of the, the letter Stanford charging range and speed, affordability, range model availability and awareness and understanding and well, fundamentally that's why the Tesla is sort of, is, is doing so well and that it's, it's pretty much solved most all of these problems, right? So first and foremost, as we all know, consumers that, that are thinking about, uh, potentially. And in Evie you're considering it or just learning about it, there's sort of first, you know, common concern is his range and what we call range anxiety, right? Mo, most cars available in the u s today, especially with sort of the, you know, SUV as larger SUV have north of 400 miles of, of a range and the gas car right and sort of varies anywhere from about three 50 to almost sort of 500. Loren: [14:08] And so consumers have been trained that their car should go, you know, roughly three 50 to 400 miles on a, on a tank of gas. And so their expectation is, is that an electric car should sort of match that. Right. And so know that's where sort of, you know, again, Tesla has done really well in sort of reaching that sort of higher income market that has been able to afford their luxury cars with over 300 miles of range or in some cases a little bit under that. But, uh, and they're going to come out, uh, the, the rumor is by the end of this year with a model s that we'll actually have 400 miles of range. So they're sort of getting to that point of you, at least from a range perspective, consumers who can afford the electric cars will, will not be able to sort of use sort of the, the lack of range of an issue, but fundamentally w you know, range is sort of sort of that, that sort of first starting point. Loren: [15:06] In other words, if you're, if you're going into a car dealer and considering a car, that is sort of the sort of the first step that, that people have to get over. The second one, uh, is, is, uh, I think, um, you know, just sort of affordability, right? And again, the, the challenge today with, uh, sort of both sort of supply and demand of electric vehicles is, is because of the, the cost of the battery packs is still pretty significant and it tends to be about a 20 to 30% of the cost of the vehicle. And so the, the battery pack prices are coming down significantly, but there's still, you know, too high as a, as a percentage of the vehicle. And so when you're looking at comparable vehicles, so if you're looking at a particular car model that has both the gas, uh, uh, you know, motor and an electric motor, and there are several on on the market like that where you can actually get different sort of powertrains, it's often anywhere between five to $20,000 difference. Loren: [16:10] Right. And so in a case like that, it's sort of very apparent to someone that, you know, electric cars sort of cost significantly more. So we've got it, you know, yeah. Get the cost of them down. That's sort of the second, second big thing. And again, we're gonna, we're gonna get there probably in about seven years. That's what McKinsey and, and Bloomberg and many other, uh, research organizations have sort of predicting as that, that sort of cost comparison, that cost parity will come in probably around 2025, you know, plus or minus years that, you know, that's sort of the third piece of this is just making cars that, that people want. And so, as, as you know, Scott pickup trucks are really, really popular in, in, in the u s you know, the Ford, uh, F-150 is the top selling vehicle in the u s the sort of the top six vehicles sold every year in the u s are either SUV slash crossovers or pickups, right? Loren: [17:12] And there just aren't a, today there aren't any electric pickups and B, there aren't really any sort of affordable, uh, crossovers that can compete with something like a Toyota Rav four and stuff like that. And those are sort of the hot markets, right? And so, you know, we're just, there's not sort of competitive vehicles, um, uh, available. And then, you know, I would, uh, just sort of talk about kind of awareness and understanding, right? People just still don't even know what evs are and they think there's sort of something, uh, you know, kind of from the future and, and, um, and, and that's really where the neighborhood effect comes in, right? That's why they're doing so well in markets like California where people just like solar. There's been a lot of research around solar, right? You put solar on your house, your neighbor is more likely to go solar. Loren: [18:03] And that's what's happening in markets like California where people just see all the Teslas and electric cars running around and they become more comfortable. If it's okay for my, it's okay for me. And so we've just, you know, got to sort of do a better job of, of making them available and, and, and making people aware of them and that, that they actually really are a good fit for them. And then the last piece, um, is, is, is charging speed, right? I've talked to a lot of people, I've talked to everybody I know about, you know, when you will, uh, think you might be willing to go. And a lot of people will say, I will not consider electric car until it, it charges in the same amount of time that it takes me to refill my car. Right. Which is about five minutes. And we're, we're a long ways away from that. And so people are going to have to accept the charging is, is, is sort of very different, uh, than, uh, you know, that sort of refueling. Got It. Scot: [19:01] Cool. So the, um, so the main cost difference is the batteries and um, you said about seven years we should get to some kind of parody. Is that because battery production kind of gets to where it needs to be or, or, or what is the driving factor on that? Loren: [19:15] Yeah, it's a combination of things. Scott one, as you mentioned, it's just, it's like any sort of product, right? It's sort of volume, right? So right now, you know, there's, there's a last year worldwide, about 4 million evs were sold. And again, that's across both the, you know, the, the, the full battery electric vehicles and plug in hybrids and stuff. And so that's relatively speaking, you know, there was like 80 million vehicles sold last year in the world. That's sort of a small volume. And so the first part of it is, is just like, you know, smart phones or computers or refrigerators. Any other kind of product like that is, is that the price will come down when sort of the battery production sort of scales up. That's the first part of it. The second part of it is, is just um, improving, uh, manufacturing efficiencies, improving the actual, uh, makeup of, of, of the battery packs and selves. Loren: [20:10] We probably don't, don't have time to go sort of deep in into today, but there, there continues to be a lot of um, uh, improvements and developments in, in the actual sort of battery cells themselves. We're seeing in the, in the, in the future we're going to have something called solid state batteries, right, which were moved sort of the liquid in the batteries. And Long Story Short, Scott is that's going to probably double or triple in essence, the energy density of those batteries, which will a obviously, uh, mean that you can produce, you know, a three, 400 mile range battery for, you know, let's say half the cost that, that we, that we are today. So part of it is just sort of, it's, it's still a relatively new emerging technology, if you will. And it's just going to take, you know, five, seven, 10 years to kind of to get there. Scot: [21:00] Do you think lithium ion is going to be kind of the underlying technology that we bet on or do you think some other technology has a shot? Loren: [21:08] Yeah, so lithium ion is obviously the sort of the, the, the goto today, but, but again, I think we're, we're going to see a solid state battery sort of being the, uh, I think sort of the next wave and the next successor. Um, and, and again, it's just a, a sort of a variation if you will, on the lithium ion batteries that it removes that, um, sort of the, the liquid. And so the dendrites don't build up as much. And so basically, uh, you know, you just, you have sort of a higher, higher energy density. There are, there are other sort of technology's out there being, being talked about, but, but I think solid state seems to be the one that most people think is, is ultimately going to kind of be the, be the winner. And again, that's, that's probably, um, seven years, uh, seven to 10 years from being, um, like in electric cars that we would buy. Again from those perspective, it's just, it's a manufacturing and scale perspective that they already have sort of the technology. They just don't have the ability to mass produce those, those batteries yet. Scot: [22:17] Well, who's a, where could we learn more about solid state batteries? Is there like a certain company that's doing this or, or is it like out of a university? Loren: [22:26] Yeah, there, there's several of them. Uh, I've, I've, I had the, the pleasure to interview, uh, one CEO of one company called uh, uh, solid power out of Colorado. They were sort of spun out out of University of Boulder. Uh, Toyota is, is, is working on solid state battery. Dyson, the vacuum cleaner company for lack of a, a better term is walking on one. There are several other, are the universities and companies working on them as well. But those are some of the kind of the, the leaders, uh, Toyota, you know, is claiming that there are solid state battery next year. But, uh, I'm a little little bit dubious on that and think that, uh, showcasing it and actually putting it in a, in a car is, are two different things. Scot: [23:20] Cool. And then a on the lithium ion side. So Tesla built or, or as you know, has built a portion of the gigafactory in, uh, Nevada I believe. Uh, and then aren't they starting a factory in China as well? We'll those two factories kind of, um, you know, give them enough capacity to keep growing and, and kind of, you know, drive up the adoption at least on the Tesla side. Loren: [23:42] Yeah. So you're correct. So it's a, the, the, the gigafactory one like they call it, which is up outside of, of, of Reno, Nevada is a joint venture with, with Panasonic. And the challenge they've had there is just as you say, is they have not been able to actually keep up with demand. In fact, if you're familiar with some of the Tesla energy products, they have the, uh, the, the power wall and the power pack, which are sort of the, the backup battery storage, both for residential and commercial. And they basically had to take the production that was planned for those two products. And actually, but, uh, towards the model three and I'm actually, and so, yes. So the sort of the, the supply of battery packs continues to be sort of the, the biggest alums market. Um, and as you mentioned, China has actually completed the building of their, what they're calling gigafactory three in, in China insurance. Loren: [24:49] And, um, now they're actually, uh, working on, uh, building out the inside of the factory and installing equipment and stuff. They literally, it was sort of amazing that they built this, this factory in six months from literally a literally buying the property and, and getting up is pretty amazing. But those batteries are going to be battery packs and that factory are from everything we know going to be just for the Tesla model three in the model wise that will be sold in China. So that's probably not going to help solve any problem, uh, for, you know, for other, our other markets you up and, and the u s and stuff. And so that week does not go by when, uh, one of the, the, the OEMs, uh, you know, announces yet another, uh, either partnership or plan building a new battery factory. Several of them, uh, are, are being built down in the, in the south, in the US, uh, as an example. But, uh, yeah, so scaling up those, those battery factories, uh, is today literally the sort of the single biggest challenge to sort of growth of the market. They just can't keep up with supply or with demand. Excuse me. Scot: [26:03] Interesting. And then on the models, you talked about a pickup trucks and Teslas working on one. A lot of people are skeptical if, you know, given they're there, they're always announcing things and not delivering on time. Uh, but another one that we've been watching closely as Rivian, um, have you, you think they'll get to market first with their pickup truck? Loren: [26:21] They probably will. There was, and the, you know, there's not another company called work horse out of the Midwest that was been working on a, uh, on a, on a, uh, pickup truck. Uh, but they've been having some financial issues and stuff lately, so it's, uh, unclear what's going to happen with them. But yeah, ravion is a, is a really exciting company and Amazon and some other companies invested a $700 million into them. And, uh, as well as Ford has, is, is now invested in them. So they're at a really sort of exciting company to watch, unlike sort of Tesla and, and faraday future and some of the other sort of evs startups. They sort of remained in stealth mode for, for, for many, many years. And then finally came out and showed their sort of, uh, you know, concept, uh, versions of their pickup truck and an SUV and they're actually gorgeous and, and, uh, you know, really sort of amazing looking. Loren: [27:23] They've designed them literally from the ground up as evs. So there's like spots where you can put golf clubs through the side of the vehicle, uh, add on camping accessories to tap into the battery power. So they're, they're, they're very exciting. The problem with them is that, you know, they're basically, you know, 70 to a hundred thousand dollars pickup trucks. And, um, and so, well, their sort of dream pickup trucks, they're not gonna take the Midwest by storm, which is ultimately what what we need, right? So these are going to still be a lot of, you know, Silicon Valley and people on the coast who, who might've purchased a, you know, a Tesla or similar sort of electric luxury vehicle. Now getting excited about being the first one on their block to own a, a, a Caribbean electric pickup truck that, you know, that I think is, is actually going to be amazing, you know, three to 400 miles of range and just just, uh, amazing features. Loren: [28:22] But I think, you know, it's, it's, it's gonna prove that you can build an amazing pickup truck and that'll, that'll sort of pushed some of the other auto makers to sort of speed up it, but it's only going to take away sales from, you know, the very end highlight Ford Raptors, right, that are in that sort of 70, $80,000 range, thousand dollar range. In other words, it's not, it's not going to directly compete with that $40,000 kind of Ford F-150 or you know, or Chevrolet Silverado or whatever it is. So it's a, it's exciting. I expected to do really well with Amazon and Ford and others behind it. There doesn't seem to be any, uh, uh, you know, issues about will they survive. It's just that, how quickly can, can they scale and ultimately build pickups. An SUV is that maybe reach, you know, kind of below the luxury market. Scot: [29:22] Cool one. Um, uh, you talked about costs and for a while there we had a, a national subsidy. And then I think those have gone away, but there's still some state subsidies. We're, where are we on subsidies for, for enticing people to jump into the pond. Loren: [29:38] Yeah. So, so actually, no, so the, the federal electric vehicle tax credit is, we sort of commonly commonly refer to it is still, uh, it's still available. The way, the way it works is that, uh, it's based on each, uh, manufactures. So, uh, the, and, and the amount of the federal tax credit varies by the, the, the, the IRS basically has a, uh, a formula for it. But, uh, if the battery pack is of kind of a certain size, so it can be a plugin hybrid or a full electric, um, the maximum tax spread and get a $7,500, um, and then, uh, the, the smallest I think is about 1,750. I forget the exact amount, sort of, uh, for some, some vehicles and sort of everything in between. Again, sort of based on that sort of battery pack size. But once a, an auto maker sells 200,000 electric vehicles beginning from 2010, it starts kind of a, a complicated, uh, phase out, right? Loren: [30:49] So that get too into the weeds. But basically, uh, that tax credit phased out over, uh, nine quarters, if you will, and gets cut in half. And Tesla actually as of today, uh, their tax credit was cut, uh, uh, in half. Uh, and so it's down now to, or I think it's been cutting twice, half now. So it's down now to God, I forget the amount, but it's like 1,350 or something like that. Uh, I should know that, but it, but bakes look getting, it's been cut in half twice. And so this is the last, um, two quarters where you can get any kind of tax credit, uh, on Tesla models. Chevrolet also reached the General Motors also reached the $200,000, uh, threshold. Um, but they're, they did it a couple of quarters behind so you could still have several more quarters for their models and there's basically nobody else close. Scott Nissan and Ford are still about, uh, 80, 90,000 vehicles away and they don't have sort of any volume of EBS. Loren: [32:00] And so the tax credit in essence for the other 30 manufacturers or whatever is, is still sort of widely available and will be for many years. Um, but, uh, and then at, as you mentioned at the state level, by the way, I should, I should mention there, there's a lot of, uh, momentum to either by a certain people in oil companies that are to get rid of that federal tax credit and then by proponents of it to actually change it in an extended and, and change how it's actually calculated so that there isn't that 2000 sort of threshold. Um, but then as you mentioned, um, a lot of states actually have, uh, either rebates or tax credits. California for example, where I live has one, um, you Lotta utilities, uh, also have them. So like the Pacific gas and electric here in California, in southern California, Edison, et Cetera. Loren: [33:04] I'll have different ones, but it's Tenley tends to be about like $500. Uh, many states have tax credits of say, $2,500, or you know, a thousand, something like that. And then there are also many other sort of incentives or benefits such as access to the eight year v Lane, uh, and, and things like that. So there, there's still a lot of opportunities to in essence reduce your, your overall cost of that electric vehicle through, uh, through these various incentives. Very cool. And then, um, I've heard some states are considering actually, uh, you know, the opposite of subsidies, which would be increasing, uh, effectively a targeted tax, I guess, on, on evs. And I think their argument is we're losing all this tax income from the markup and gasoline. Have any states enacted that or are they just kind of chattering about it at this point? Loren: [33:56] Uh, it's, it's a little bit of both. There's, there's a lot of chatter. Uh, I think it was Illinois proposed like a thousand dollar registration fee. And then I think just like a week ago, it was, uh, it did not pass. Um, but there are some states that have past ones of like, it's like sort of double the registration of sort of a gas vehicle or they've added additional hundred or $200 and things like that. So yeah, you're, you're absolutely correct. There are, um, uh, some states that, um, are, are an acting anything from sort of small to fairly significant, uh, ways either sort of, typically it's sort of a registration fee. There's sort of increasing that, um, at basically it just as you said, as a way to say how do we recapture sort of the, the gas tax, uh, you know, w uh, gas taxes that we get to fund, uh, infrastructure, roads and bridges and things like that. Loren: [34:58] And that's actually a topic that, uh, I'm really gonna sort of dive into pretty significantly over the next couple of months, Scott. Cause it's, it's one that really fascinates me cause there are, there's about a half a dozen different models that people are talking about. Uh, but, but none have sort of emerged and this is not just the US and state issue. This is a global issue, right? Like nobody has actually figured out what is going to be kind of the most equitable, fair way and makes everybody happy to do this. And some of it sort of big brothery like people are talking about, they would track your mileage. Other people talk about you take your car in for an annual checkup and they'd look at the mileage thing, you'd be assessed a fee. Uh, there's electricity taxes, there's just flat registration, there's tire, you know, tire taxes. There's like all these things being floated and um, you know, none have, none have actually sort of emerged yet. And so meanwhile you're seeing just what you talked about Scott, which is states and sort of some states are just saying we don't know what the right answer is, but we're gonna, we're gonna Start, uh, taxing more. It's charging these fees because we know even though it's only a couple percent of, of the new vehicles that it's coming and we need to start, start generating that, that sort of revenue, recapturing that lost revenue in some way. Yeah. It's funny cause it seems so misaligned with, you know, Scot: [36:23] they'll try to be green and reduce carbon footprint. Everything did that you would create a disincentive for going EV. It just kind of, Loren: [36:30] yeah. And, and that's, yeah, that's a really good point in that, you know, depending on how you view of the world, right. Many people think that, that, that in fact, yes, we should look at sort of the, the actual impact that the internal combustion engine has, that we're actually not charging for it, right. Everything from, you know, sort of air pollution to, uh, carbon emissions and things like that. And so, you know, then that gets to a sort of a whole nother sort of complex, uh, way of sort of thinking about it. But, but you're right. And so you have this sort of like everything in the world, in the u s today, everything is sort of, you know, red and blue or black and white and this sort of, you know, it's hard to sort of bring people into the middle to find a, a, a good common and simple solution. Scot: [37:21] Cool. Um, last topic on Kinda like adoption rate. Um, where are we on charging infrastructure and is there, is there some metric we look at like chargers per population or just like the number of charges out there and any trends on that? Loren: [37:35] Great question. Yeah, I sorta, you know, to kind of back up for a little bit. Um, you know, the, the thing that, that people who don't have an Evie and, and as, as someone who's, who's on your second Evie, you absolutely understand this, right, is that, you know, when we think about refueling our gas or diesel powered car, we think about, we get in our car and we'd drive to a gas station or we stop off on the highway at a gas station going in, refuel, and then, you know, Kinda get back on the road or whatever it is with, with the electric cars, people have to sort of be re taught how to kind of think about charging. And that in a, for, in, in, in, in most parts of the world, in the u s you're looking at about 60% of people live in some form of a single family homes. Loren: [38:27] So they can install an Evie charging station in their house from anywhere from, you know, 500 and $1,500. Uh, which again is not necessarily a small number for a lot of people, but basically you drive in as you know, and you plug in your car at night just like you do your smart phone, you wake up in the morning and it's charged. Uh, maybe you drive to work and you, if you were lucky enough to have a, an employer that has charging stations that work and there are a lot of them out here in Silicon Valley. I know there's a lot down in places like Atlanta and probably where you are in Raleigh and stuff, but that's sort of another source, a target and Walmart have uh, hundreds and hundreds of charging stations that they've, they've built many of them, Tesla superchargers and other ones as well. Uh, Tesla has this what's called destination charging program where literally there are thousands of hotels and resorts around the world that have installed what's called the Tesla Wall charger. Loren: [39:27] So you can go stay at their hotel and just sort of plug in while you're sleeping at night there as well. The, the, the two biggest challenges, Scott, to kind of the charging infrastructure is solving the problem for renters, if you will. Or people that live in, you know, condos or, or high rise downtown in New York or something like that. Right? Where you can't just drive home and, and, and, and easily, easily plug in. So that's the first big a charging infrastructure challenge we have to solve. And that part of that's going to be solved by, uh, workplace. Part of it's going to be solved by the sort of, you know, urban charging centers and, and charging it at target and Walmart and places like that. Um, longer term sort of the apartment owners and managers and stuff, we're going to have to step up to the plate. Loren: [40:20] Most of them do not want to yet. They don't feel like it's their responsibility to be, to build out the sort of the refueling centers. But, so that's sort of the first part of kind of where we are is, is, you know, if you're a homeowner, it's, this is, this is a piece of cake. Uh, it's, it's those sort of non homeowner homeowners that we would kind of have to sort of focus on, on, on building out. The second piece of it is road trips, right? It's like most of us probably only do a couple of long road trips per year, but that is the biggest fear of most people in an, in, in buying an Evie, I'm going to Disneyland Disney world, going to see grandma two states away. It's a 500 mile trip, where am I going to starch? And, and Tesla understood that early on and so took the, you know, had the foresight to build out their Tesla supercharger, uh, network to sort of solve that problem. Loren: [41:19] And if you've ever been to sort of, you know, California and driven from like the bay area down to southern California, literally there's, you know, like where I live to down to la, there's like seven or eight different supercharger stations. You have plenty of options to sort of stop and charge that. So we have to sort of build that out. Electrify America, which is the, uh, the diesel gates, a subsidiary of Volkswagen, uh, that basically they've committed to $2 billion to building out, uh, the charging infrastructure in the u s both those sort of a road trip chargers as well as it apartments and in sort of a, an urban locations and stuff. And they're building out really pretty quickly there several other charging networks that are, uh, uh, ego and, and chargepoint et Cetera, that are sort of, uh, building out and, uh, you know, it, the thing that is sort of, we're, we're still not at that is that I believe is sort of the other, uh, automakers haven't really sort of stepped up to the plate, at least in the u s sort of help build that out. Loren: [42:28] And so I think that that's something that, that we need to need to see more of, uh, going forward. But to your question around the metrics, yeah. I, I tend to look at, uh, things like, uh, the number of, uh, uh, charging locations per number of electric vehicles. In other words, if you think about that, like fundamentally we need to scale the number of, of uh, electric charging stations in locations, uh, you know, at the same rate or ahead of the rate of, of people buying them. Um, and, uh, right now we're, you know, in most markets we have sort of a pretty, pretty good ratio. Um, there tends to be anywhere from about 15 to 30 electric vehicles per charging location and that seems to be okay. We probably need to get that down to closer to between 10 to 15. Uh, and then the second metric that I like to look at is the number of charging stations. Loren: [43:36] And this is the language we use in this industry is really bad, uh, because it's very different from gas stations, right? We say charging stations, which is actually means those sort of plugs the connections. Um, but a key metric to me in that area is, um, the number of those connections per location, right? And Teslas at almost 10, meaning if you go to their supercharger station, the average one has just under 10 connections. So 10 cars can plug in and charge at the same time. They have some that have as many as 40 connections. A lot of them now are, are 12, 12, 15, 20 et cetera. Um, but most of the other networks are only at two to four. So we've, we've got to build these sort of what I call sort of super centers, right? Where literally as, as the number of electric vehicles scale and they're driving down, you know, the east or mid West or the southern California, whatever it is. And you can have, you know, literally 50 cars stopping in at one location and, and all charging and being able to charge in 15, 20 minutes and get on their way. Scot: [44:46] Cool. Um, do you happen to know how many just total plugs there are in the United States? Loren: [44:52] There's about 65,000, what we call level two. Uh, that's like the level to sort of like what you plug in for your washing machine, that sort of, you know, two 20 capability and then, uh, what we call DC fast chargers, right? Those sort of superchargers that charge it really high rate. And you sort of combine those two together. We're at about 65,000 today in the u s um, but again, you know, Scott, if you think about that metric, that metric doesn't include the, you know, about 900,000 that are in people's homes. Yeah. Right. And so that's, you know, that's sort of the other, uh, other sort of, you know, key metric that almost everybody that buys an Evy obviously install some sort of a charger in their home and that that basically takes care for most people, uh, about 95% of their charging needs. Right. The only time you kind of, if you have a home that you can plug in the, that you have to go outside that is for those sort of either sort of mid or long road trips. Scot: [46:03] All right. So let's, uh, so that's a really good status of kind of where we are today and what's keeping people from adopting evs. Um, when you project forward, when are we going to cross that chasm and see evs become a much more material part of, of vehicles being sold? Loren: [46:19] Yep. Yep. Great question. So I use a, and thank you for using that sort of crossing the chasm. That's one of my favorite sort of terms and, and many, many of your listeners would probably feel are familiar with the book from many years ago, but the crossing the chasm refers to that, uh, technology adoption curve. I, I'm, I mentioned at the beginning of the podcast around, uh, when you basically go from early, early adopters and cross into that sort of early majority, which is 16%. So I like to be sort of very specific around, uh, the, the concept of when we will go mainstream. And so I use that 16% and I've, my prediction is that across the u s we will cross that 16% chasm, uh, in 2028. Um, but, um, uh, in California, uh, I believe it will be there in 2022. So just, uh, what three years away, cause we're, we'll probably be, as I mentioned at about 9%, uh, hopefully close to 10% by the end and of this year. Loren: [47:27] Uh, but what that also means, Scott, that when we hit that 16% across the US in 20, 28 or thereabout, it means that we might only be at, you know, 8% in Louisiana or something. So again, you know, and by that point, California might be, you know, 30, 35%. So we're still going to have sort of this, this, you know, in the u s and around the world is adoption is, is very, very market specific. And even cities specific, if you will, nursing, well, the, uh, California grid be able to handle that many evs. Yeah, great question. So that's, that's one of the things that a lot of people sort of talk about. One, you know, is the, is the during grid, right? The, with, with, uh, being used coal and natural gas, etc. And, and, and, and be, can grid actually handling. So, you know, a couple of things are happening in, in parallel, right? Loren: [48:24] And so the, in fact, the move to renewable energy solar and wind is actually happening at a faster rate than electric vehicle adoption in the u s so in other words, w w the grid is a getting cleaner faster than we're buying electric vehicles. And B, uh, the concept of sort of battery storage and micro grids is, is also sort of taken off. So as the cost of batteries declined for, for electric vehicles, they're also declining for that sort of what, what's called Keke storage demand. Right. And so you have this situation where, uh, you know, take, take a market where it's, you know, it's 100 degrees in the middle of the summer and everybody comes home at six, seven o'clock at night, fires up their air conditioner and stuff. And that's where we, we have, uh, you know, Brian House blackouts, et Cetera. Um, uh, and so the concept of peaker plants, so, uh, in particularly natural gas has been used, used for that in recent years. Loren: [49:31] So basically they fire those up to meet that specific, uh, demand rallies with sort of a battery storage. We can store all that excess, uh, solar and wind energy that's being created sort of during the day and throughout the day and those batteries and in literally a Nanosecond, those that battery storage can be tapped into sort of hit that sort of peak demand. So the reality is that at how we charge and when we charge is, is actually going to be monitored by abilities and you will like, I don't know Scott when you charge, but I charged my, my cars like at two o'clock in the morning, I get a lower rate. Nobody's, you know, nobody else's sort of using electricity at the time. And so it, it doesn't have that impact. Right? And so the utilities and software and AI will sort of manage when and how we charged the sort of make sure that not everybody's charging at the same time. And again, we'll have this sort of, uh, battery, uh, backups that are to manage that sort of peaks and stuff. So I'm not concerned at all about, um, the grid handling it. Technology will sort of solve that and sort of the growth of, of, of renewals. And battery storage. We'll, we'll take care of it. Scot: [50:52] Cool. Uh, I could go another hour, but I know we're kind of bumping up against time here and want to be, uh, you know, really appreciate you. You've given us a, an hour of your time. Um, any other last thoughts on, so I would love to talk about connected car and some of the ownership models and avs. Um, I kind of view, you know, Evie is kind of a, an underlying kind of platform for the, some of those things. It's just kind of kind of happen along with those. Um, or, or if you'd like to spend our last couple minutes talking about what's going on in other countries around evs. I'm, I'm open to either topic, whatever's interesting to you. Loren: [51:25] Yeah. I mean, I could, I could go another nother three hours, but, uh, yeah, I'll, I'll, I'll put quick, quickly on, on both of them. So, you know, globally, uh, you know, China is, uh, has the Chinese government is basically recognized electric vehicles as a business opportunity. So you look at, uh, many, many countries, France, UK, uh, uh, Netherlands, Norway, et Cetera. And they're looking at electric vehicles from kind of the, we need to reduce, uh, carbon emissions and climate change and air pollution and et cetera. And so we need to transition. China's sees that as well, but they also see this as perhaps the single biggest business opportunity potentially in the history of China. In other words, they see that, uh, that they can sort of dominate, like they've done in consumer electronics. And so most of the battery packs, uh, battery factories in the future are going to probably be the majority of them in China. Loren: [52:33] They see it as a massive opportunity. And so they're doing a lot of things to sort of take the lead there. And so we could, we could spend an hour on tariffs and all this sort of the politics of this, but, but China, uh, you know, many of our cars that, that you and I will purchase in, you know, seven to 10 years are probably going to be made in China. So that's sort of that, that sort of first part of it. Um, uh, but then sort of back on kind of the, uh, you know, connected and autonomous vehicles. I mean, obviously, uh, autonomous vehicles are primarily going to be powered by electric cars just because if you have, you have these sort of abs sort of, you know, running around the Robo taxis and stuff without a driver and you look at the maintenance costs and everything like that, it's sort of a natural natural with electric vehicles. So those two, uh, things I've obviously go go hand in hand. And so, um, yeah, the, you know, again, the, the uh, the, the intersection there is, is, is sort of a, uh, ideal. And, um, while we, you know, today we're seeing sort of a mix of those in the, in the next couple of years, we're going to see most all of the ads being made on, uh, electric platforms. Scot: [53:51] Awesome. Uh, and then, uh, last question, uh, you know, if folks want to find you online, where are the best places Loren: [54:00] so they can go check out a, the website and blog Evie, adoption.com just like it sounds. And follow me on Twitter at EVAdoptiontweet. Ah, those are probably the two best ways and they can a sign up for my email newsletter or a on the website as well. Would love to have them opt in. Scot: [54:19] Awesome. Well we really appreciate you taking time to be on the podcast. I jotted down 50 things I learned and hopefully everyone else learned a ton as well and uh, we'll have to get you back on. I know you're always doing research and things like that, so I'd love to get you back on the next time you update your models and get an update from you. Loren: [54:36] Great. Thanks. I really appreciate it. This was a lot of fun.

This week, we examine the sounds humans make in order to monitor, repel, and control beasts. Author Mandy-Suzanne Wong’s Listen, We All Bleed is a creative nonfiction monograph that explores the human-animal relationship through animal-centered sound art. We’ll hear works by Robbie Judkins, Claude Matthews, and Colleen Plumb, interwoven with Wong’s unflinchingly reflective prose. By turns beautiful and harrowing, these sounds and words reposition us, kindling empathy as we listen through non-human ears. Links to works by the artists heard in this episode: Mandy Suzanne-Wong’s Listen, We All Bleed.  Robbie Judkins: Homo Tyrannicus, "Pest" (video), live in London, 2017 Claude Matthews: “DogPoundFoundSound (Bad Radio Dog Massacre)” Colleen Plumb: "Thirty Times a Minute" (homepage), indoor installation (video) Transcript [ethereal music plays] [CRIS CHEEK] This…is…Phantom Power. [pig grunting] [MACK HAGOOD] Episode 10. [CRIS] Animal Control. [MANDY SUZANNE WONG] If humans did this to each other, they call it sonic warfare, terrorism or crowd control, depending on who did it and whom they did it to. They call the end result for the victims, that is post traumatic stress, but skunks aren’t human. They’re not even pets. Not like your spaniel who clearly enjoys notions of his own. Can a skunk suffer post traumatic stress? Aren’t they just wild animals? Yes and yes, sound is contact. Fear is a weapon. The wild is here. [sounds fade out] [MACK] Welcome back to another episode of Phantom Power, where we explore the world of sound in the arts and humanities, I’m Mack Hagood. [CRIS] And I’m cris cheek. [MACK] Hi, cris. [CRIS] Hi Mack. How you doing? [MACK] I’m okay. We’ve got an interesting episode in store today I think. [CRIS] Good. [MACK] I spoke with an author of fiction and nonfiction work. Her name is Mandy Suzanne Wong. She hails from Bermuda. She’s got a PhD from the University of California in Los Angeles. You may have heard of the place. [CRIS] I have. she’s very interdisciplinary right? [MACK] Yeah, she’s another person that I met through that crazy conference for science literature and the arts. Like the other person that we met. [CRIS] Brian House. [MACK] Brian House, yeah. The other person we met at that conference, Brian House. She has a concern with animals and the sounds of animals and sound art about animals. [CRIS] Right, it seems like she is a creative writer in short fiction and also has a novel coming out this year. It seems like she is also an essayist about sound almost a creative nonfiction thinking about sound is that right? [MACK] Yeah, and she’s got this manuscript that she recently finished and it’s called “Listen, We All Bleed.” It’s her critical response to a number of sound art pieces that focus on the human animal relationship through sound. So, on today’s show we’re going to listen to four pieces of audio that Mandy Suzanne Wong has written about in “Listen, We All Bleed.” We’re going to listen to those pieces and we’re also going to listen to her words about those pieces. So, the first piece we’re going to listen to is by Robbie Judkins. It’s called “Desired Place” and it’s on his album “Homo Tyrannicus.” [low, ominous music plays, sounds like an orchestra] [MANDY] What is empathy? There are at least two definitions of empathy out there on philosophers of animal ethics. One is basically if I empathize with you, I feel something similar to what you feel. Another is when I empathize with you, I am deeply affected by your situation, but in my own way/ I think Robbie Jenkins desired place could be about either or both. I think empathy is a kind of resonance. [music continues] The final track on his album “Homo Tyrannicus: Desired Place” opens with a beautiful electronic chord. Long and rolling in slow motion through the tones of some major triad with a bit of fuss....

For humans, this city is inescapably noisy. Traffic, heavy machinery, yells, honks — it never stops. But for rats, the soundscape can be calm, quiet, punctuated only by their loopy cries. Photograph by Dina Litovsky. Field recordings by Brian House.

For humans, this city is inescapably noisy. Traffic, heavy machinery, yells, honks — it never stops. But for rats, the soundscape can be calm, quiet, punctuated only by their loopy cries. Photograph by Dina Litovsky. Field recordings by Brian House.

This time we talk with a fascinating sound artist and composer Mack met at a recent meeting of the Society for Literature, Science, and the Arts. As his website puts it, "Brian House is an artist who explores the interdependent rhythms of the body, technology, and the environment. His background in both computer science and noise music informs his research-based practice. Recent interests include AI, telegraphy, and urban rats." If that description looks a little daunting on the screen, the work itself sounds really cool to cris and Mack. We'll listen to three pieces of Brian's: a composition that imprints motion-tracking data on collectible vinyl, a field recording from the Okavango Delta in Botswana, and an encounter with the wildlife that put the "burrows" in New York's five boroughs.Links to works discussed: Quotidian Record (2012), Urban Intonation (2017).Mack notes that it was incredible to edit this episode using Daniel Fishkin's daxophone arrangement of John Cage's "Ryoanji" (1983).The other music on today's episode is by Brian House and Graeme Gibson. Transcript [♪ ethereal music playing ♪][CRIS CHEEK]This… is… Phantom Power.[FEMALE COMPUTERIZED VOICE]Episode 3.[CRIS]Dirty Rat.[unidentified sounds raising and lowering in pitch, banging noises][CRIS]So, what are we listening to here, Mack?[MACK HAGOOD]What do you think we’re listening to here, Cris?[noises continue, Mack laughing][CRIS]I don’t know, what is that? Is that an owl, put through a filtering device or something?[MACK, still laughing]You think it sounds like an owl put through a filtering device? Let’s listen to some more.[CRIS]Oh, wow. So synthetic.[MACK]It sounds like an old theatre organ having a bad day.[CRIS]Oh, yeah, no, I’m hearing that now. A pipe organ.[MACK]Yeah.[CRIS]Or something that hasn’t got a lot of wheeze left in it.[MACK]Something sad is happening in the silent film.[CRIS]Something very sad is happening.[MACK]Harold Lloyd fell off the clock.[both laughing][CRIS]And so he did.[MACK]Alright, so… it’s… it’s rats.[CRIS]That’s a rat?![MACK]That’s a rat.[clanging noises begin, rat noises stop][MACK]So today we’re gonna meet the guy behind the rat recordings that you just heard a moment ago:  Brian House. He’s a composer and sound artist I met last November at the Conference for the Society of Literature, Science, and the Arts, which is this really crazy conference for interdisciplinary scholarship and creative experimentation. I met Brian, and when I heard about what he was working on, I just knew we had to have him on the show. His work uses sound to express relationships between bodies, human and nonhuman bodies, social relationships, geographic relationships, temporal relationships, and sonic relationships. So we’ll be hearing three different pieces of his:  a musical composition that traces human, urban, and transatlantic movement, a field recording from the wetlands of Botswana, and an installation that will take us into the underground boroughs of New York City. This is work that helps us make sense of relationships we normally can’t sense at all.[BRIAN HOUSE]Well, my name is Brian House, and I’m an artist based right now up here in Providence, though I frequently do work down in New York. Yeah, I’m up here at Brown University at the moment, working on my PhD in music.[♪ upbeat technological music ♪][CRIS]So, Mack – how does Brian get interested in rats when he’s working on music?[MACK]Well, I think in order to get into that, we need to understand more of his previous work and some of the themes that are going on in it.[BRIAN]You know, I’ve been particularly interested in the ideas of Henri Lefebvre, right, who, in his last writings, outlined this poetic methodology called “Rhythm Analysis.”[MACK]Yeah, yeah, he was the French Marxist sociologist, spent a good amount of time thinking about life in the city, and –[CRIS]And the design of the urban environment, and –[BRIAN]And that’s been the basis for a lot of my rece...

August 25 2015, 1:06 PM. Chief's Island, Okavango Delta. Such massive animals, who can be so thunderous when they find the need, can also be so incredibly quiet. This group approached us and drank from the channel just a few meters away, leaving us in awe. Recorded by Brian House (http://brianhouse.net, http://soundcloud.com/brianhouse) for the Okavango Wilderness Project. These sounds are in the public domain and may be downloaded and used for any purpose, but consider linking to our expedition website: http://intotheokavango.org Equipment used: Sound Devices 702 digital recorder with Sennheiser 418 stereo shotgun microphone (M/S). Post-processing in Logic Audio (editing, normalization, EQ, limiter). Format: 96khz 24-bit WAV.

August 27 2015, 6:41 AM. Chief's Island, Okavango Delta. I'd reconciled myself to not having the territorial call of the most iconic predator on tape. We would hear them in the distance often, terrifyingly, but always in the distance, and passing through areas so quickly didn't give much opportunity to plan ahead. My last night, on Chief's Island by Hippo Hide, I heard one briefly, and fell asleep with the mic pointed in its direction. I checked the recording in the morning, and it included this. Some freaked out baboons establish the mood. Recorded by Brian House (http://brianhouse.net, http://soundcloud.com/brianhouse) for the Okavango Wilderness Project. These sounds are in the public domain and may be downloaded and used for any purpose, but consider linking to our expedition website: http://intotheokavango.org Equipment used: Sound Devices 702 digital recorder with Sennheiser 418 stereo shotgun microphone (M/S). Post-processing in Logic Audio (editing, normalization, EQ, limiter). Format: 96khz 24-bit WAV.

August 25 2015, 6:11 PM. Chief's Island, Okavango Delta. A crocodile carcass on the floodplain was presumably the result of an encounter with a defensive elephant. Not many animals seemed interested in it apart from a bevy of flies (and us). Recorded by Brian House (http://brianhouse.net, http://soundcloud.com/brianhouse) for the Okavango Wilderness Project. These sounds are in the public domain and may be downloaded and used for any purpose, but consider linking to our expedition website: http://intotheokavango.org Equipment used: Sound Devices 702 digital recorder with Sennheiser 418 stereo shotgun microphone (M/S). Post-processing in Logic Audio (editing, normalization, EQ, limiter). Format: 96khz 24-bit WAV.

August 21st 2015, 2:59 AM. Okavango Delta. Night sounds around my tent including some very small and very large animals. Recorded by Brian House (http://brianhouse.net, http://soundcloud.com/brianhouse) for the Okavango Wilderness Project. These sounds are in the public domain and may be downloaded and used for any purpose, but consider linking to our expedition website: http://intotheokavango.org Equipment used: Sound Devices 702 digital recorder with Sennheiser 418 stereo shotgun microphone (M/S). Post-processing in Logic Audio (editing, normalization, EQ, limiter). Format: 96khz 24-bit WAV.

August 15 2015, 7:24 AM. Okavango Delta. Antiphonal call that is ubiquitous in the delta, finally got a reasonably clear recording chasing them around a termite island. Recorded by Brian House (http://brianhouse.net, http://soundcloud.com/brianhouse) for the Okavango Wilderness Project. These sounds are in the public domain and may be downloaded and used for any purpose, but consider linking to our expedition website: http://intotheokavango.org Equipment used: Sound Devices 702 digital recorder with Sennheiser 418 stereo shotgun microphone (M/S). Post-processing in Logic Audio (editing, normalization, EQ, limiter). Format: 96khz 24-bit WAV.

August 16 2015, 6:52 AM. Okavango Delta. Beautiful call by this bird couple. Google "antiphonal birdsong". Really wanted to get this recording to send to my partner whom I was missing. She made it her ringtone. Recorded by Brian House (http://brianhouse.net, http://soundcloud.com/brianhouse) for the Okavango Wilderness Project. These sounds are in the public domain and may be downloaded and used for any purpose, but consider linking to our expedition website: http://intotheokavango.org Equipment used: Sound Devices 702 digital recorder with Sennheiser 418 stereo shotgun microphone (M/S). Post-processing in Logic Audio (editing, normalization, EQ, limiter). Format: 96khz 24-bit WAV.

August 26 2015, 5:40 AM. Chief's Island, Okavango Delta. One of the many times where I was recording something from inside my tent with no idea what I was hearing. There was much activity in the channel next to me throughout the night, some of it probably not so benign. But the team agreed this is jumping catfish. The breeze through the palms is a definite soundmark of these islands. Recorded by Brian House (http://brianhouse.net, http://soundcloud.com/brianhouse) for the Okavango Wilderness Project. These sounds are in the public domain and may be downloaded and used for any purpose, but consider linking to our expedition website: http://intotheokavango.org Equipment used: Sound Devices 702 digital recorder with Sennheiser 418 stereo shotgun microphone (M/S). Post-processing in Logic Audio (editing, normalization, EQ, limiter). Format: 96khz 24-bit WAV.

August 22 2015, 10:19 AM. Okavango Delta. The rhythm of traveling by mekoro with the interplay between water, air, ngashi (pole), and reeds, can be very meditative and beautiful (when there is enough water and clear passage). I don't want to forget this pulse. Recorded by Brian House (http://brianhouse.net, http://soundcloud.com/brianhouse) for the Okavango Wilderness Project. These sounds are in the public domain and may be downloaded and used for any purpose, but consider linking to our expedition website: http://intotheokavango.org Equipment used: Sound Devices 702 digital recorder with Sennheiser 418 stereo shotgun microphone (M/S). Post-processing in Logic Audio (editing, normalization, EQ, limiter). Format: 96khz 24-bit WAV.

August 22 2015, 2:53 PM. Okavango Delta. Poling our mekoro past a small termite island, we heard a fuss -- vervet monkeys. Pete and Tom both speculated it was alarm calls for a nearby leopard. Recorded by Brian House (http://brianhouse.net, http://soundcloud.com/brianhouse) for the Okavango Wilderness Project. These sounds are in the public domain and may be downloaded and used for any purpose, but consider linking to our expedition website: http://intotheokavango.org Equipment used: Sound Devices 702 digital recorder with Sennheiser 418 stereo shotgun microphone (M/S). Post-processing in Logic Audio (editing, normalization, EQ, limiter). Format: 96khz 24-bit WAV.

August 22 2015, 4:06 PM. Split Island, Okavango Delta. We were inadvertently about to camp between members of a group of elephants on a narrow strip of island. This display (ears, stomping, trumpets) let us know in no uncertain terms that we should leave the passage between them open. Recorded by Brian House (http://brianhouse.net, http://soundcloud.com/brianhouse) for the Okavango Wilderness Project. These sounds are in the public domain and may be downloaded and used for any purpose, but consider linking to our expedition website: http://intotheokavango.org Equipment used: Sound Devices 702 digital recorder with Sennheiser 418 stereo shotgun microphone (M/S). Post-processing in Logic Audio (editing, normalization, EQ, limiter). Format: 96khz 24-bit WAV.

August 21 2015, 2:34 PM. Okavango Delta. So many beautiful ambient noises here. I just put the microphone in the middle of tall grass on a medium-sized island on which we were camping. Recorded by Brian House (http://brianhouse.net, http://soundcloud.com/brianhouse) for the Okavango Wilderness Project. These sounds are in the public domain and may be downloaded and used for any purpose, but consider linking to our expedition website: http://intotheokavango.org Equipment used: Sound Devices 702 digital recorder with Sennheiser 418 stereo shotgun microphone (M/S). Post-processing in Logic Audio (editing, normalization, EQ, limiter). Format: 96khz 24-bit WAV.

August 21 2015, 9:26 AM. Okavango Delta. The scientific goals of the trip included a bird survey through the Delta transect. Members of the team call out sightings to Steve who copies, and Giles records them on a handheld device which will be synced with our database. Recorded by Brian House (http://brianhouse.net, http://soundcloud.com/brianhouse) for the Okavango Wilderness Project. These sounds are in the public domain and may be downloaded and used for any purpose, but consider linking to our expedition website: http://intotheokavango.org Equipment used: Sound Devices 702 digital recorder with Sennheiser 418 stereo shotgun microphone (M/S). Post-processing in Logic Audio (editing, normalization, EQ, limiter). Format: 96khz 24-bit WAV.

August 19 2015, 11:22 AM. Okavango Delta near Jediba. On a solo mission with Tom, the sound of the mokoro was different, with his freer and faster motion. Recorded by Brian House (http://brianhouse.net, http://soundcloud.com/brianhouse) for the Okavango Wilderness Project. These sounds are in the public domain and may be downloaded and used for any purpose, but consider linking to our expedition website: http://intotheokavango.org Equipment used: Sound Devices 702 digital recorder with Sennheiser 418 stereo shotgun microphone (M/S). Post-processing in Logic Audio (editing, normalization, EQ, limiter). Format: 96khz 24-bit WAV.

August 20 2015, 11:59 AM. Madinari island, Okavango Delta. This expedition was often a very trying experience. A mokoro is not so nice when loaded with batteries and lenses and there is no water to float it in. We have harnesses and literally pull it like oxen across the floodplains in search of a channel. Suckage. Though a certain kind of bonding experience as well. Recorded by Brian House (http://brianhouse.net, http://soundcloud.com/brianhouse) for the Okavango Wilderness Project. These sounds are in the public domain and may be downloaded and used for any purpose, but consider linking to our expedition website: http://intotheokavango.org Equipment used: Sound Devices 702 digital recorder with Sennheiser 418 stereo shotgun microphone (M/S). Post-processing in Logic Audio (editing, normalization, EQ, limiter). Format: 96khz 24-bit WAV.

August 19 2015, 7:08 AM. Okavango Delta. Every morning is a whole new variety, I just set this one up just after dawn and let it go. Recorded by Brian House (http://brianhouse.net, http://soundcloud.com/brianhouse) for the Okavango Wilderness Project. These sounds are in the public domain and may be downloaded and used for any purpose, but consider linking to our expedition website: http://intotheokavango.org Equipment used: Sound Devices 702 digital recorder with Sennheiser 418 stereo shotgun microphone (M/S). Post-processing in Logic Audio (editing, normalization, EQ, limiter). Format: 96khz 24-bit WAV.

August 17 2015, 10:06 PM. Okavango Delta. Small groups of bull elephants clear islands to make them more elephant-friendly, in hopes of attracting a mate. Typically an older bull teaches the young ones this strategy. The sound of an elephant approaching through vegetation was totally surprising and wonderfully terrifying. Never saw it, but it was maybe 20ft away. A great example of elephant flatulence at the end. Recorded by Brian House (http://brianhouse.net, http://soundcloud.com/brianhouse) for the Okavango Wilderness Project. These sounds are in the public domain and may be downloaded and used for any purpose, but consider linking to our expedition website: http://intotheokavango.org Equipment used: Sound Devices 702 digital recorder with Sennheiser 418 stereo shotgun microphone (M/S). Post-processing in Logic Audio (editing, normalization, EQ, limiter). Format: 96khz 24-bit WAV.

August 18 2015, 7:21 PM. Okavango Delta. These reed frogs remind me of Xenakis' "Concret PH", an emotionally important work for me (and early example of granular synthesis). They are also "siren frogs" for me, as they always sound really close but end up luring you away from the safety of camp. Recorded by Brian House (http://brianhouse.net, http://soundcloud.com/brianhouse) for the Okavango Wilderness Project. These sounds are in the public domain and may be downloaded and used for any purpose, but consider linking to our expedition website: http://intotheokavango.org Equipment used: Sound Devices 702 digital recorder with Sennheiser 418 stereo shotgun microphone (M/S). Post-processing in Logic Audio (editing, normalization, EQ, limiter). Format: 96khz 24-bit WAV.

August 17 2015, 2:42 PM. Okavango Delta. Lots of reeds. Sitting in front of the mokoro, dodging them. Recorded by Brian House (http://brianhouse.net, http://soundcloud.com/brianhouse) for the Okavango Wilderness Project. These sounds are in the public domain and may be downloaded and used for any purpose, but consider linking to our expedition website: http://intotheokavango.org Equipment used: Sound Devices 702 digital recorder with Sennheiser 418 stereo shotgun microphone (M/S). Post-processing in Logic Audio (editing, normalization, EQ, limiter). Format: 96khz 24-bit WAV.

August 17 2015, 6:36 PM. Okavango Panhandle. The last island before Seronga and the Delta proper. Early evening, stuck the mic into the papyrus. Recorded by Brian House (http://brianhouse.net, http://soundcloud.com/brianhouse) for the Okavango Wilderness Project. These sounds are in the public domain and may be downloaded and used for any purpose, but consider linking to our expedition website: http://intotheokavango.org Equipment used: Sound Devices 702 digital recorder with Sennheiser 418 stereo shotgun microphone (M/S). Post-processing in Logic Audio (editing, normalization, EQ, limiter). Format: 96khz 24-bit WAV.

August 16 2015, 9:21 PM. Seronga. There was such joy in Seronga as the team shared a feast, song, and dance with the families of our ba'Yei members. They've been away from home for over three months -- our arrival here is an important milestone as we reconnect with the community who directly depends on this ecosystem we are trying to protect. It also marks the beginning of a new stage in our journey -- here at long last we enter the Okavango Delta. Recorded by Brian House (http://brianhouse.net, http://soundcloud.com/brianhouse) for the Okavango Wilderness Project. These sounds are in the public domain and may be downloaded and used for any purpose, but consider linking to our expedition website: http://intotheokavango.org Equipment used: Sound Devices 702 digital recorder with Sennheiser 418 stereo shotgun microphone (M/S). Post-processing in Logic Audio (editing, normalization, EQ, limiter). Format: 96khz 24-bit WAV.

August 16 2015, 7:23 AM. Okavango Panhandle. Recorded by Brian House (http://brianhouse.net, http://soundcloud.com/brianhouse) for the Okavango Wilderness Project. These sounds are in the public domain and may be downloaded and used for any purpose, but consider linking to our expedition website: http://intotheokavango.org Equipment used: Sound Devices 702 digital recorder with Sennheiser 418 stereo shotgun microphone (M/S). Post-processing in Logic Audio (editing, normalization, EQ, limiter). Format: 96khz 24-bit WAV.

August 15 2015, 4:01 AM. Okavango Panhandle. Pel's Fishing Owl is highly sought by birders -- we saw a pair of them flying later in the trip, so incredible, huge and a deep red-brown color. This night, I was awoken by the call. Listen to it with headphones or good speakers, it's so low as to barely come through via laptop speakers. Recorded by Brian House (http://brianhouse.net, http://soundcloud.com/brianhouse) for the Okavango Wilderness Project. These sounds are in the public domain and may be downloaded and used for any purpose, but consider linking to our expedition website: http://intotheokavango.org Equipment used: Sound Devices 702 digital recorder with Sennheiser 418 stereo shotgun microphone (M/S). Post-processing in Logic Audio (editing, normalization, EQ, limiter). Format: 96khz 24-bit WAV.

August 14 2015, 6:36 AM. Okavango Panhandle. I am in awe of this bird -- always a different song, and the sense that it's coming from everywhere at once. I hid in my tent with the mic outside to capture this. Recorded by Brian House (http://brianhouse.net, http://soundcloud.com/brianhouse) for the Okavango Wilderness Project. These sounds are in the public domain and may be downloaded and used for any purpose, but consider linking to our expedition website: http://intotheokavango.org Equipment used: Sound Devices 702 digital recorder with Sennheiser 418 stereo shotgun microphone (M/S). Post-processing in Logic Audio (editing, normalization, EQ, limiter). Format: 96khz 24-bit WAV.

August 13 2015, 6:54 PM. Okavango Panhandle. Suddenly they were dropping everywhere and taking off, crashing into things, the microphone included. Recorded by Brian House (http://brianhouse.net, http://soundcloud.com/brianhouse) for the Okavango Wilderness Project. These sounds are in the public domain and may be downloaded and used for any purpose, but consider linking to our expedition website: http://intotheokavango.org Equipment used: Sound Devices 702 digital recorder with Sennheiser 418 stereo shotgun microphone (M/S). Post-processing in Logic Audio (editing, normalization, EQ, limiter). Format: 96khz 24-bit WAV.