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In this episode Pastor Zac continues his series on Bioethics.    For more information, see:  Bioethics and the Christian Life: A Guide to Making Difficult Decisions by David VanDrunen 

In this episode Pastor Zac continues his series on Bioethics.    For more information, see:  Bioethics and the Christian Life: A Guide to Making Difficult Decisions by David VanDrunen 

In this episode, Pastor Zac kicks off a new series looking at Bioethics.    For more information, see:  Bioethics and the Christian Life: A Guide to Making Difficult Decisions by David VanDrunen   

The recent publication of Melissa Moschella's Ethics, Politics, and Natural Law has renewed interest in the application of natural law to human flourishing. A topic that has undergone a resurgence among not only Catholics, but also Protestants with seminal publications from those like David VanDrunen, Micah Watson, and Andrew T. Walker. Seeing students engaging in this tradition has been rewarding and today I speak to one of those students, Josiah Wolfe, and his article in the Campbell Law Observer entitled, Natural Law and Its Discontents. We talk about the early stages of his interest in the topic, whether he's seeing the natural law in his assignment, how he approaches Aquinas and law, the relationship between legislation and divine ordinance, and much more. Josiah is a second-year law student at Campbell University School of Law and is a Staff Writer for the Campbell Law Observer. He grew up in North Carolina and graduated summa cum laude from Charter Oak College with a B.S. in Business Administration. He was also a CLS Fellow in 2024. Cross & Gavel is a production of CHRISTIAN LEGAL SOCIETY. The episode was produced by Josh Deng, with music from Vexento.

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In this live episode, recorded at the 2024 Pactum Conference, Pat and Mike are joined by conference speakers J.V. Fesko, David VanDrunen, and Mike Abendroth to talk about matters related to law/gospel, theonomy, antinomianism, and the church.  

In this episode we are listening in to the sixth session from the 2024 Pactum Conference, God's Good Law. This session is titled “Theonomy and the Law” from conference speaker, David VanDrunen.

In this episode we are listening in to the second session from the 2024 Pactum Conference, God's Good Law. This session is titled “Natural Law” from conference speaker, David VanDrunen.

In this live episode, recorded at the 2024 Pactum Conference, Pat and Mike are joined by conference speakers J.V. Fesko, David VanDrunen, and Mike Abendroth to talk about matters related to law/gospel, theonomy, antinomianism, and the church.

About the Guest(s):David VanDrunen is a respected scholar and professor of Systematic Theology and Christian Ethics at Westminster Seminary, California, located in Escondido, near San Diego. With over two decades of experience, he has extensively researched and discussed areas like natural law and Christian ethics. VanDrunen is also an ordained minister in the Orthodox Presbyterian Church and an accomplished author, contributing significantly to theological education.Episode Summary:In this episode of the Renewal Cast, hosts Coalt Robinson and Jay Wipf engage with David VanDrunen to delve into the profound subject of natural law. The discussion promises enriching insights into how humans inherently understand moral laws through God's revelation in nature, a topic VanDrunen has thoroughly explored in his scholarly work. Packed with biblical references and theological depth, the episode is engineered to provide listeners with a clearer understanding of how natural law integrates with Christian faith and practice. Unpacking the central themes of natural law as depicted in scripture, particularly through the lens of Romans 1 and 2, VanDrunen explains how these biblical passages underscore a universal moral awareness inherent to humanity. The dialogue further extends to explore the interrelation between natural law and the two kingdoms doctrine, illuminating how moral standards transcend cultural and religious boundaries, binding all humankind in a shared understanding of right and wrong. VanDrunen emphasizes the historical and theological significance of natural law, showing its role in guiding ethical and public life.Key Takeaways:Natural law is God's law revealed in the natural order, universally known by all humans through their consciences.Romans 1 and 2 provide a biblical basis for understanding natural law, emphasizing that all people are aware of God's laws inherently.Natural law assists in public policy and ethical living by offering a common moral standard for believers and non-believers.The Mosaic covenant reflects natural law but includes additional context relevant to Israel's unique historical role.A thoughtful interpretation of natural law should be guided by scripture, aligning human life choices with God's design.Notable Quotes:"Natural law is God's law, not as delivered in scripture, but as revealed in the natural order.""No one can escape natural law – Romans one says everyone knows it.""The Mosaic law reflects the natural law but gives it to Israel in a way that's consistent with their unique place in redemptive history.""We need to make the distinction that natural theology is fallible and natural revelation is infallible.""Natural law provides a common moral standard and helps us promote principles of good living in our shared public life."Resources:David VanDrunen's works on natural law and Christian ethics.Reference to Romans chapters 1 and 2 for biblical context.Analysis of Genesis 20 and Amos 1 in relation to natural law.Discussion of the two kingdoms doctrine.For those interested in exploring the depth of Christian ethics and understanding natural law's role in faith and societal engagement, listening to the full episode is highly recommended. Stay tuned for more enlightening discussions on Renewal Cast, where theological wisdom and biblical insights come together for thoughtful discourse.

In this bonus episode, we interview Dr. David VanDrunen. We consider his reply on several points to Pastor Taylor Drummond's critical article that we discuss in episode 17. The title of that article is "Fool's Gold?: A libertarian analysis of VanDrunen's account of state legitimacy" and it examines particular arguments in David VanDrunen's book Politics After Christendom.VanDrunen expresses his appreciation for Drummond's article and our episode discussing it, raises questions concerning immoral complicity if the state is taken to be illegitimate, offers some clarification about his (up to this point) not having differentiated monopoly states from non-monopolistic civil governance in his writing, raises questions concerning what sort of consent is normative for the customary legal order's own legitimacy and its authorizing function, raises the question of when abuse or injustice might categorically disqualify one from rightfully possessing authoritative office and its relation to political resistance, and, at the end, responds to our proposal how a fuller, non-aggressionist view of proportionality in the lex talionis of the Noahic Covenant entails a conclusive argument in favor of the exclusively "protectionist" purpose of civil governance law. https://reformedlibertarians.com/bonusCMain Points of Discussion00:00 Introduction00:09 Episode description02:15 Prefatory statements05:37 The question of immoral complicity16:30 Clarifying matters of complicity21:13 The question of civil governance vs. monopoly state27:55 Distinguishing normativity from de facto (non-)conformity to norms31:00 The question of legitimizing consent35:56 Distinguishing compliance under duress (by aggression)40:45 The question of abuse/tyranny and de-legitimization45:20 The question of a conclusive protectionist-only view49:32 Remaining uncertainty about Scriptural “regulative principle” for civil governance52:29 Closing remarksAdditional ResourcesAbout David VanDrunenhttps://www.wscal.edu/faculty-member/david-vandrunen/   – author page at Mongerismhttps://www.monergism.com/authorsspeakers/david-vandrunen   – bib at ResearchGatehttps://www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/David-VanDrunen-2115184386 Episode 17: David VanDrunen's View Of Civil Government, with Taylor Drummondhttps://reformedlibertarians.com/017 “Fool's Gold?: A libertarian analysis of VanDrunen's account of state legitimacy,” by Taylor Drummondhttps://libertarianchristians.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/CLR-5-Drummond.pdfPolitics After Christendom by David VanDrunenhttps://www.amazon.com/dp/0310108845/ “The Protectionist Purpose of Law: A Moral Case from the Biblical Covenant with Noah,” by David VanDrunenhttps://www.pdcnet.org/jsce/content/jsce_2015_0035_0002_0101_0117 Episode 2: What Does Romans 13 Say About Civil Government?https://reformedlibertarians.com/002 Episode 8: The Boetie Option - the peaceful underthrow of the statehttps://reformedlibertarians.com/008 Episode 14: Does Political Representation Make Sense?, with Gerard Caseyhttps://reformedlibertarians.com/014 Episode 15: Can Christian Civil Government Be Theocratic?https://reformedlibertarians.com/015 Episode 18: Politics And The Church's Mission: What Should The Church Teach About Civil Government? https://reformedlibertarians.com/018 Audio of Answering 10 Objections to Libertarian Anarchism by Roderick Longhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsUjJ7TOhgk&list=PLwrDNUO5MDu8WYU5oB7l037lvAEjSoPBr&index=13  The Reformed Libertarians Podcast is a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute: https://libertarianchristians.com and a member of the Christians for Liberty Network: https://christiansforliberty.netAudio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com

Pastor Garrison GreeneTEXT: Genesis 18:16-33BIG IDEA: The LORD involves his friends in his plans and invites us to intercede.OUTLINE:1. Involvement in God's Plans (vs. 16-21)2. Intercession for God's World (vs. 22-33)RESOURCES: ESV Study Bible; Church History Study Bible; Reformed Expository Commentary: Genesis by Richard Phillips; Welwyn Commentary Series: Genesis by Philip Eveson; Faith of Our Father: Expositions of Genesis 12-25 by Dale Ralph Davis; Living in the Gap Between Promise and Reality: The Gospel According to Abraham by Iain Dguid; Divine Covenants & Moral Order: A Biblical Theology of Natural Law by David VanDrunen; The 1689 Baptist Confession of Faith (In Modern English, Published by Founders Ministries

It's summertime at The Pactum! While we take a little break we want you to enjoy some of our favorite episodes. Today's episode is D.V.D. on Natural Law. In this episode, Pat sits down with David VanDrunen to take a deep dive into the topic of Natural Law.  David VanDrunen is a minister of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church and is the Robert B. Strimple Professor of Systematic Theology and Christian Ethics at Westminster Seminary California.

An interview with Pastor Taylor Drummond about his article “Fool's Gold?: A libertarian analysis of VanDrunen's account of state legitimacy,” which appreciatively, but critically, examines arguments in the book Politics After Christendom by Dr. David VanDrunen. Pastor Drummond introduces himself and recounts how he became a confessional, Calvinistic Baptist, and a libertarian-anarchist. He speaks about how VanDrunen's biblical arguments for the legitimacy of the state fail his own standard for justifying the state. Drummond also explains how VanDrunen's theoretical argument is at odds with his own view of law, justice, and rights, and is in tension with many of his economic and theological insights.https://reformedlibertarians.com/017Main Points Of Discussion00:00 Introduction00:32 Episode description01:50 About Pastor Drummond06:54 VanDrunen's brief biblical arguments and Drummond's response17:22 Monopoly, Noahic covenant, and negative natural rights24:26 VanDrunen's view of customary legal order27:50 Drummond's response on law and rights34:44 Need for clearly distinguishing just and unjust coercion38:56 Protectionism, sin, politicization, and inefficiency47:29 Concluding thoughtsAdditional ResourcesArticle discussed: “Fool's Gold?: A libertarian analysis of VanDrunen's account of state legitimacy,” by Taylor Drummond: https://libertarianchristians.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/CLR-5-Drummond.pdfPolitics After Christendom by David VanDrunen: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0310108845/ Taylor Drummond   congregation: Grace Community Church, Allentown PA https://gracecommunityallentown.org/   Politics substack: https://thearchy.substack.com/   Theology site: https://servantofthesovereign.wordpress.com/ Other books mentioned:  The Road To Serfdom by Friedrich Hayek: https://mises.org/library/book/road-serfdom   The Law by Frederic Bastiat: https://mises.org/library/book/law   Foundations of Economics: A Christian View by Shawn Ritenour: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1556357249/   The Conservative Mind by Russell Kirk: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0895261715/   For A New Liberty by Murray Rothbard: https://mises.org/library/book/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto Christian Libertarian Review call for papers 2024: https://libertarianchristians.com/2024/02/03/call-for-papers-2024-volume/ The Reformed Libertarians Podcast is a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute: https://libertarianchristians.com and a member of the Christians for Liberty Network: https://christiansforliberty.netAudio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com

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Some Christians in our day push back against the idea of “the separation of church and state,” but David VanDrunen argues that, in reality, this is a crucial distinction taught throughout the Bible. So what is the proper view of government from a Christian perspective and how should we think about the relationship between theology and politics? Shane talks with Dr. VanDrunen about these and other issues he addresses in his book Politics After Christendom: Political Theology in a Fractured World.SHOW NOTESRecommended BooksPolitics After Christendom, David VanDrunenLiving in God's Two Kingdoms, David VanDrunenNatural Law: A Short Companion, David VanDrunenDivine Covenants & Moral Order, David VanDrunenNatural Law & The Two Kingdoms, David VanDrunenRecommended ArticlesParadise Lost, David VanDrunenThe Tower of Babel, Shane RosenthalChristianity & Politics, William Bennet, Os Guinness & OthersRecommended AudioA Biblical Theology of Civil Government, David VanDrunenThe Rise & Fall of Christendom, David VanDrunenTheocracy or Liberalism? David VanDrunenResponsible Citizens, Patient Sojourners, David VanDrunenThe Political Implications of Original Sin, WHI #1597 with M. McClymondThe Woke Revolution, Humble Skeptic #34 with Os GuinnessLive Not By Lies, Humble Skeptic #35 with Rod DreherInfo & Upcoming Events• Shane will be speaking at the ReThink315 College Camp which will take place on the campus of St. Louis University, July 16-19, 2024.• On Wednesday, Sept. 18th, Shane will discuss the question, “Is Faith Blind & Irrational?” at an event in Cedar City, Utah (more details coming soon).• On Friday, Oct. 18th, Shane will be the keynote speaker at the ReThink315 fundraising dinner, which will take place at the Missouri Athletic Club in Des Peres, Missouri. For more information, or to purchase tickets for this event, click here.• On Friday & Saturday, Nov. 8-9, Shane will be at the Lanier Theological Library in Houston, Texas. He has been invited to participate in a panel discussion related to the historicity of Jesus' resurrection, featuring Gary Habermas and others (more details coming soon).• If you're a fan of the show, consider writing a brief review to let others know what you like about it (preferably via the Apple Podcast app since their reviews can be seen in other podcast portals). The more positive reviews we get, the more exposure we get!• For more information, or to invite Shane Rosenthal to speak at your next event, send an email to: INFO at HUMBLESKEPTIC dot COM. • Consider supporting The Humble Skeptic podcast by making a one-time gift or upgrading to a paid subscription via Substack ($5.95 per month, $59 per year). Click here for more information about giving options. Get full access to The Humble Skeptic at www.humbleskeptic.com/subscribe

In this episode, Caleb is joined by David VanDrunen (PhD, Loyola University Chicago) Professor of Systematic Theology and Christian Ethics at Westminister Seminary California to discuss the topic of natural law. Together they discuss questions like: What is natural law? How does the fall effect natural law? How does it relate to the biblical covenants? How does natural law operate in the life of unbelievers and believers (is is similar or different)? How does natural law relate to the gospel? How should natural law effect our political theology? And more. Resources: Natural Law: A Short Companion by David VanDrunen https://a.co/d/05PXm7DD Natural Law and the Two Kingdoms: A Study in the Development of Reformed Social Thought by David VanDrunen https://a.co/d/07t9n5WT Living in God's Two Kingdoms: A Biblical Vision for Christianity and Culture by David VanDrunen https://a.co/d/04cV59wX Politics after Christendom: Political Theology in a Fractured World https://a.co/d/033Cuc4H

In this week's discussion, David VanDrunen returns to the studio to talk about his new short companion on the natural law (buy here). David is the Robert B. Strimple Professor of Systematic Theology and Christian Ethics at Westminster Seminary California (faculty page here). He has written a number of other popular books, ranging from Divine Covenants and Moral Order: A Biblical Theology of Natural Law, Natural Law and the Two Kingdoms: A Study in the Development of Reformed Social Thought and Politics after Christendom: Political Theology in a Fractured World. RELATED CONTENT Bridging the Civil & Divine - Karen Taliferro (Episode # 133) Mere Natural Law - Hadley Arkes (Episode # 159) Cross & Gavel is a production of CHRISTIAN LEGAL SOCIETY. The episode was produced by Josh Deng, with music from Vexento.

Gregory Reynolds interviews David VanDrunen about his latest book, Natural Law: A Short Companion, (B&H Academic, 2023, 160 pages).For more on Natural Law in Ordained Servant see the following;David VanDrunen, “Natural Law in Reformed Theology: Historical Reflections and Biblical Suggestions.” OS 21 (2012): 32-38. Available here. Nelson D. Kloosterman, “A Biblical Case for Natural Law: A Response Essay.” OS 16 (2007): 101-7. Available here.David VanDrunen, “VanDrunen in the Hands of an Anxious Kloosterman: A Response to a Review.” OS 16 (2007): 107-13. Available here.Gregory Edward Reynolds “Education, Natural Law, and the Two Kingdoms” OS 21 (2012): 14-17. Available here.

"Living in God's Two Kingdoms illustrates how a two-kingdoms model of Christianity and culture affirms much of what is compelling in these transformationist movements while remaining faithful to the whole counsel of Scripture. By focusing on God's response to each kingdom―his preservation of the civil society and his redemption of the spiritual kingdom―VanDrunen teaches readers how to live faithfully in each sphere." Pick up a copy here: https://www.amazon.com/Living-Gods-Two-Kingdoms-Christianity/dp/1433514044

"Living in God's Two Kingdoms illustrates how a two-kingdoms model of Christianity and culture affirms much of what is compelling in these transformationist movements while remaining faithful to the whole counsel of Scripture. By focusing on God's response to each kingdom―his preservation of the civil society and his redemption of the spiritual kingdom―VanDrunen teaches readers how to live faithfully in each sphere." Pick up a copy here: https://www.amazon.com/Living-Gods-Two-Kingdoms-Christianity/dp/1433514044

Pastor Garrison GreeneTEXT: Genesis 8:20-9:17BIG IDEA: The Lord establishes the Noahic covenant so that the cultural mandate might continue and his promises of grace might come to pass.OUTLINE: 1. The Parameters of the Noahic Covenant 2. The Purpose of the Noahic Covenant 3. The Placard of the Noahic CovenantRESOURCES: ESV Study Bible; Reformed Expository Commentary: Genesis by Richard Phillips; Divine Covenants and Moral Order: A Biblical Theology of Natural Law by David VanDrunen; Reforming Criminal Justice: A Christian Proposal by Matthew T. Martens; Political Church: The Local Assembly as Embassy of Christ's Rule by Jonathan Leeman

Pastor Zach Garris and Dr Josh Howard discuss a modern iteration of classic, reformed two kingdom theology known as R2K, or "Radical Two Kingdoms" theology.What is R2K? Where did it come from? Proponents such as Meredith Kline and David VanDrunen are examined. What are the implications of making the Noahic Covenant non-redemptive? Is this a novel concept or rooted in the historical faith? What did John Calvin and other Reformes say on this subject?Watch all of our videos and subscribe to our channel for the latest content >HereHere

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About The Guest(s):David VanDrunen is a professor of systematic theology and Christian ethics at Westminster Seminary, California. He has written extensively on Christianity and culture and is a minister in the Orthodox Presbyterian Church.Summary: David VanDrunen discusses the importance of understanding creation when discussing human sexuality. He explains that our nature as sexual beings is part of who we are and that the fall has corrupted our sexual desires but not our basic human nature. He emphasizes the need to root discussions of sexuality in issues of creation and the natural order. VanDrunen also addresses the distinction between biological sex and gender, highlighting the importance of recognizing that gender is a choice while biological sex is a natural characteristic. He explains that gender identity that goes against biological sex is unnatural to the creation order. The conversation then turns to the use of language in the discussion of sexuality and the importance of being careful not to co-opt language that supports ideas contrary to biblical teachings. VanDrunen also explores the concept of the image of God and how it relates to discussions of sexuality. He emphasizes that our identity as image bearers of God is defined by God and that sin has damaged the image of God in us. Finally, VanDrunen discusses attending same-sex weddings and the need to be discerning in how we engage with others while still upholding biblical principles.Key Takeaways:Understanding our nature as sexual beings is crucial when discussing human sexuality.Gender is a choice, while biological sex is a natural characteristic.Gender identity that goes against biological sex is unnatural to the creation order.We need to be careful not to co-opt language that supports ideas contrary to biblical teachings.Our identity as image bearers of God is defined by God, and sin has damaged the image of God in us.Attending same-sex weddings should be approached with discernment and a commitment to upholding biblical principles.Quotes:"We don't have a choice whether we're male or female. We don't have a choice about the proper way to express our sexuality. God has made us in a certain way, and it's actually good for us if we live according to the way God made us.""We need to help our children or help people in our churches to see that actually, this is good for us. This is according to the way that God has made us. He hasn't done it to constrict us. He's done it for our good.""We need to resist the kind of co-opting of our language. We need to be careful when we're in real-life, concrete situations. We need to give fellow Christians a fair bit of room for judgment as to how you talk and how you interact with people.""We've been deeply damaged by sin, and we're inclined as sinners to kind of make normative the way we feel, to kind of exalt our own feelings and to presume that those are what's normal, that is what is good. But as fallen sinners, we can't do that. We can't trust our own feelings, can't trust our own thoughts. Sin has deeply affected us, and we're going to have to keep coming back to the Scriptures for God's own definition of who He is and therefore who we are as those who bear His image.""We are created by God as His image bearers. That is part of our identity, and that obviously is really important. But then even more so, even more precious to us now, is that we are redeemed by Christ. We're united to Him, we are justified, adopted, sanctified in Him. And in a way, I think probably the entire Christian life is a process of getting used to that. It's a process of learning how to be that other way, that we're citizens of heaven, we're heirs of a kingdom that cannot be shaken as sinners. That's unnatural for us. It has become sort of unnatural in that kind of sinful nature way. It takes us time to get used to being the people of God, to get used to being the Church of Jesus Christ."

Christians are foreigners and exiles in this world. So, how do we help people in our churches think about how they live in and engage with the world? In this episode of In:Dependence, Adrian Reynolds (FIEC Head of National Ministries) is joined by David VanDrunen, professor at Westminster Seminary California and author of Living in God's Two Kingdoms, to discuss how churches and Christians are to engage with the world around them. Show notes Living in God's Two Kingdoms (crossway.org) Are We Allowed to Disagree About Justice Issues? (fiec.org.uk) About In:Dependence: In:Dependence is FIEC's official podcast, where you'll hear teaching and resources for church leaders from the FIEC Ministry Team and guests from FIEC churches and partners. You can access video podcasts by subscribing to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠the FIEC YouTube channel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. About FIEC: We are ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠a fellowship of Independent churches⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with members of the family across England, Scotland and Wales. Our mission is to see those Independent churches working together with a big vision: to reach Britain for Christ. Being part of FIEC links you to a growing number of Independent evangelical churches and there are now more than 50,000 people who are part of churches affiliated to FIEC. Follow FIEC on social media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠X

In this episode, Caleb discusses the contribution Baptists have made to the field of political theology with Andrew Walker (PhD, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) who serves as an associate professor of Christian ethics and public theology, associate dean of the school of theology, and director of the Carl F.H. Henry Institute for Evangelical Engagement at SBTS. Resources: Baptist Political Theology edited by Thomas Kidd (Editor), Paul Miller, and Andrew Walker. https://a.co/d/hrbgKcj Political Church: The Local Assembly as Embassy of Christ's Rule by Jonathan Leeman https://a.co/d/b35iCxm How the Nations Rage: Rethinking Faith and Politics in a Divided Age by Jonathan Leeman https://a.co/d/itgVhFE Politics After Christendom: Political Theology in a Fractured World by David VanDrunen https://a.co/d/caL4CMM Living in God's Two Kingdoms: A Biblical Vision for Christianity and Culture by David VanDrunen https://a.co/d/eruDrKB Political Gospel: Public Witness in a Politically Crazy World by Patrick Schreiner https://a.co/d/fiE0cbc

In this episode, Caleb discusses the mission of the church with Bryan Estelle (PhD, The Catholic University of America) Professor of Old Testament at Westminster Seminary. Together, they tackle questions like: What is the mission of the church? How does the mission of the church effect the ministries of the church? What are the dangers of misunderstanding the mission of the church? How is what the cooperate church does similar to and different from what might be permissible and good for individual church members? Resources: The Primary Mission of the Church: Engaging or Transforming the World? by Bryan Estelle https://a.co/d/0eTTqgy What Is the Mission of the Church?: Making Sense of Social Justice, Shalom, and the Great Commission by Kevin DeYoung and Greg Gilbert https://a.co/d/cgY8rah What is the Church's Mission? by Jonathan Leeman https://a.co/d/7KouYyk The Temple and the Church's Mission: A Biblical Theology of the Dwelling Place of God by Greg Beale https://a.co/d/iFojWDq Politics after Christendom: Political Theology in a Fractured World by David VanDrunen https://a.co/d/eMXznYV Living in God's Two Kingdoms: A Biblical Vision for Christianity and Culture by David VanDrunen https://a.co/d/ijfAaY1

We are pleased to welcome Dr. Bruce Baugus to our program to discuss his book, The Roots of Reformed Moral Theology, published by Reformation Heritage Books. In this comprehensive work, Dr. Baugus delves into the foundational elements that have shaped moral theology within the Reformed tradition. He provides both historical and theological contexts, covering a range of topics including the Old Testament's influence on Reformed moral thought, the significance of the Ten Commandments, the Reformation's impact on moral theology, and its evolution in the modern era. Additionally, Dr. Baugus explores the practical applications of Reformed moral theology for contemporary Christian living. This conversation serves as a continuation of a dialogue that began during our online Symposium on Reformed Moral Theology, held in August 2023. In the symposium's concluding session, Dr. Baugus and Dr. David VanDrunen each presented their perspectives on the role of law in the Gospels, with a particular focus on the Sermon on the Mount as recorded in the Book of Matthew. The session also featured an interactive discussion between the two scholars and T. David Gordon. Dr. Bruce P. Baugus is Professor of Systematic Theology & Apologetics at Puritan Reformed Theological Seminary in Grand Rapids, Michigan. He earned a PhD in Philosophical Theology from Calvin Theological Seminary (2009) and served on the faculty of Reformed Theological Seminary in Jackson, Mississippi, for fourteen years (2008–2022) prior to joining Puritan Reformed. He is also the editor of China's Reforming Churches (RHB, 2014) and has contributed numerous chapters, articles, and papers. Dr. David VanDrunen is Robert B. Strimple Professor of Systematic Theology and Christian Ethics at Westminster Seminary California.

Dr Joshua Howard and Tim Bushong of Eschatology Matters join Peter Bell of Guilt Grace Gratitude Podcast to discuss and lightly debate the differences between Two Kingdom Amillennialism and Postmillennialism and Theonomy. Peter is a recent graduate of Wesminster West, and student of Dr Kim Riddlebarger and Dr David VanDrunen.Watch all of our videos and subscribe to our channel for the latest content >HereHere

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Today, we continue our summer series looking into the essays in a brand new volume entitled Christianity and Constitutionalism (Oxford University Press 2023) (PURCHASE HERE). In this episode, we return to the States and tackle the question of God's revelation and how it relates to constitutionalism. Our guest today is David VanDrunen — Robert B. Strimple Professor of Systematic Theology and Christian Ethics at Westminster Seminary California (faculty page here). David has written a number of popular books, ranging from Divine Covenants and Moral Order: A Biblical Theology of Natural Law, Natural Law and the Two Kingdoms: A Study in the Development of Reformed Social Thought, and most recently Politics after Christendom: Political Theology in a Fractured World. The episode was produced by Josh Deng, with music from Vexento. A special thanks to Nick and Ashley Barnett for their contribution in making this podcast possible. Cross & Gavel is a production of CHRISTIAN LEGAL SOCIETY.

Ideas have consequences, and, as we'll see, how we read Genesis 1–11 impacts such fundamental questions as Who is man? and What is his mission? Timestamps Introduction - 00:41 Michael Carlino's Biography - 04:10 Carlino's Application of Kingdom Through Covenant - 07:40 The Simple Thesis of Michael Carlino's Article - 09:26 What is David VanDrunen Doing with Genesis 1-11? - 13:31 Dr. Wellum's Thoughts on Bavinck's View of Creation and Covenant - 16:27 How Do We See a Covenant in the Beginning Chapters of Genesis? - 20:40 How Do We Understand the Relationship Between the Covenants with Adam and Noah? - 26:00 Is the Noahic Covenant Still Being Enacted Today? - 33:30 The Weightiness of Words - 38:24 A Different Understanding of Natural Law - 40:35 Why Not Go to Postmillenialism and Theonomy? - 44:30 Outro – 50:33 Resources to Click The Noahic Covenant Reaffirms God's Universal Demand on His Creation: A Progressive Covenantalist Response to David VanDrunen by Michael Carlino   Books to Read Kingdom Through Covenant: A Biblical Theological Understanding of the Covenants (Second Edition) – Peter J. Gentry & Stephen J. Wellum God's Kingdom through God's Covenants: A Concise Biblical Theology – Peter J. Gentry & Stephen J. Wellum Progressive Covenantalism: Charting a Course Between Dispensational and Covenant Theologies – ed. Wellum and Parker Divine Covenants and Moral Law: A Biblical Theology of Natural Law – David VanDrunen Politics After Christendom: Political Theology in a Fractured World – David VanDruenen Reformed Dogmatics – Herman Bavinck

Ideas have consequences, and, as we'll see, how we read Genesis 1–11 impacts such fundamental questions as Who is man? and What is his mission?

Narcissism and vanity characterise the spirit of our age—particularly when it comes to social media, where we're tempted to promote ourselves, make ourselves look good, and present a certain image of ourselves to the world. But when faced with the glory of God, Scripture calls upon us to exhibit a different attitude: humility. What does it mean to be truly humble? What does it mean to humble oneself before the Lord? If we're serious about giving all glory to God, what should this look like in the Christian life? In this special edition of our podcast, we bring you the audio from the recent lecture Professor David VanDrunen gave for the Centre on “The glory of true humility” on 7 June 2023. For an edited transcript and show notes, visit https://ccl.moore.edu.au/resources/podcast-episode-100/ Send us your ethical questions using the contact form on our website: https://ccl.moore.edu.au/contact/

Our most recent live event from our series on “A virtuous life” focused on true virtue in an age of virtue signalling. Our presenter was Professor David VanDrunen of Westminster Seminary California. In this episode of the Centre for Christian Living podcast, Professor VanDrunen joins us again in a special follow-up episode to answer some of the questions that arose during the event. I hope that this discussion will be of good help to you as you continue to reflect on what it means to walk in the newness of life that we've been given in Jesus. For an edited transcript and show notes, visit https://ccl.moore.edu.au/resources/podcast-episode-099/ Send us your ethical questions using the contact form on our website: https://ccl.moore.edu.au/contact/

Digging in the Archives from October 2020 -- such an important discussion and deserves to be released again!! About The Guest(s): Dr. David VanDrunen is the Robert B. Strimple Professor of Systematic Theology and Christian Ethics at Westminster Seminary, California. He has a Master's Divinity degree, a law degree, and a PhD in theological ethics. He has been a pastor and has been teaching at Westminster Seminary for almost 20 years. Dr. VanDrunen has written extensively on Christianity and culture, including the topic of the two kingdoms. Summary: Dr. David VanDrunen discusses the concept of the two kingdoms in Christianity and how it relates to engaging with culture. He explains that the two kingdoms view is not the same as Augustine's two cities paradigm, but they are compatible. The two kingdoms refer to God's rule over the world in two distinct ways: his common rule of creation and preservation, and his redemptive rule through the church. Dr. VanDrunen emphasizes that Christians are called to be involved in various areas of life and to pursue excellence and love of neighbor in all that they do. However, he cautions against trying to transform all aspects of culture according to the pattern of Christ's kingdom, as this can lead to unrealistic expectations and confusion. Instead, he suggests that Christians should focus on serving God by serving their neighbors and maintaining a balanced perspective on the institutions and activities of this world. Key Takeaways:The two kingdoms view promotes a healthy balance between triumphalism and withdrawal from culture.Christians are called to pursue excellence and love of neighbor in all areas of life.The church's mission is primarily focused on preaching, teaching, and shepherding, rather than transforming culture.Pastors should be cautious about making political judgments or imposing specific strategies on their congregations.Christians can be involved in cultural activities and institutions without trying to make them uniquely Christian.Quotes:"We recognize that for Christians, we participate in both of these rules.""We recognize that these things are not the ultimate things, that these things are not where our highest allegiance lies.""We can be in the world, but not of this world.""We're serving other human beings created in God's image, and we're instruments of God in taking care of his creation.""We don't have to make it extraordinarily complicated… we're serving other human beings, and that's a way to show the kind of love that we're supposed to show."

It's summertime and Pat and Mike are doing a summer session of greatest hits! In this episode Mike and Pat discuss Natural Law. Resources mentioned in this episode: – A Biblical Case for Natural Law by David VanDrunen – Politics After Christendom by David VanDrunen (see especially chapter 5) – Reforming Apologetics by J.V. Fesko – The Insufficiency of Scripture by T. David Gordon – Resource list on Heidelblog by R. Scott Clark

In the information age and the advent of cancel culture, public morality has taken an interesting turn. Virtue is signalled by what we approve publicly or cancel publicly. The deep irony is that this virtue signalling is most often not backed by _true_ virtue. This is seen in the fierce and cutting remarks too common on social media. The danger for Christians is that they follow the culture and become no better than whitewashed tombs. At this cultural moment, it's all the more pertinent for Christians to cultivate true virtue. The Bible often encourages believers that their character is to match their calling. In this special edition of our podcast, we bring you the audio from our recent live event from our 2023 series on “A virtuous life”. In this episode, we hear from Professor David VanDrunen about “Virtue in an age of virtue signalling: Christian culture in a characterless society”. For an edited transcript and show notes, visit https://ccl.moore.edu.au/resources/podcast-episode-098/ Send us your ethical questions using the contact form on our website: https://ccl.moore.edu.au/contact/

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Dr. David VanDrunen is at The Babylon Bee to talk about how we all need the Gospel, we are living in Babylon, and how Christians should use their brains to engage with politics, culture, and theology. What does it mean for Christians if we are living in Babylon? Should Christians be calling for Christian Nationalism? Dr. David VanDrunen is an ordained minister in the Orthodox Presbyterian Church and a professor of Systematic Theology and Christian Ethics at Westminster Seminary California. If you are looking for a confessionally reformed place to prepare for ministry, check out Westminster Seminary California: https://wscal.edu/ This episode is brought to you by Alliance Defending Freedom. Jack Phillips is back in court and ADF is standing with him. Learn more at: http://adflegal.org/Jack Become a premium subscriber: https://babylonbee.com/plans?utm_source=Libsyn&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=description Listen to more Babylon Bee content with Bee Radio: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUu5jt0fuiT55J2KDStJwLw The Official The Babylon Bee Store:  https://shop.babylonbee.com/ Follow The Babylon Bee Podcast: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebabylonbeepodcast/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/babylonbeepod Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheBabylonBeePodcast

Interested in further study of the Bible? Join us at ⁠Logos Bible Software⁠. Are you interested in a rigorous and Reformed seminary education? Call Westminster Seminary California at 888-480-8474 or visit www.wscal.edu! Do you want to retrieve our Classical Protestant theology and heritage? Sign up for a degree program or individual classes at the ⁠Davenant Institute⁠ by following this link ⁠here⁠. Please help support the show on our ⁠Patreon Page⁠!   SEASON 5 EPISODE 26 Join Nick & Peter of the Guilt Grace Gratitude Podcast as they continue Season 5, Reformed Apologetics, with an a discussion about Christianity and politics! David VanDrunen (JD, Northwestern University School of Law; PhD Loyola University Chicago) is Robert B. Strimple Professor of Systematic Theology and Christian Ethics at Westminster Seminary California.  He is the author of Living in God's Two Kingdoms: A Biblical Vision for Christianity and Culture and Divine Covenants and Moral Order: A Biblical Theology of Natural Law. Pick up books from Dr. VanDrunen here.   Book(s) used for this conversation: Politics after Christendom   Have Feedback or Questions? Email us at: guiltgracepod@gmail.com Find us on Instagram: @guiltgracepod Follow us on Twitter: @guiltgracepod Find us on YouTube: Guilt Grace Gratitude Podcast Please rate and subscribe to the podcast on whatever platform you use! Looking for a Reformed Church? North American Presbyterian & Reformed Churches --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/gggpodcast/support

In this episode, David VanDrunen advocates for the Two-Kingdoms view, which Michael Horton shares. Though they are not uniform in their approaches, this beneficial conversation examines the view of the Two-Kingdoms, the criticisms against it, and its practical application in the church and society.

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In this fifth and final installment of the series on the Five Solas, Pat and Mike discuss Soli Deo Gloria. Resources mentioned in this episode: - The Church History ABCs: Augustine and 25 Other Heroes of the Faith by Stephen J. Nichols - God's Glory Alone by David VanDrunen - Glory to God Alone by David VanDrunen

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In this Lone Ranger Responsum episode, Pat answers questions on Israel, Doctrine of God, Politics, Imputation, and more. Resources mentioned in this episode: - Understanding the Land of the Bible by O. Palmer Robertson - Simply Trinity by Matthew Barrett - The Trinity: An Introduction by Scott Swain - Eternal Subordinationism Video by David Strain - On the Eternal Functional Subordination Debate Video by Jordan Cooper - Trinity Crisis and Cures by Pat Abendroth - Trinitarian Discipleship by Pat Abendroth - The Christian Faith by Michael Horton - My Pilgrimage From “Lordship” to Law/Gospel (part 1) by Mike Abendroth - My Pilgrimage From “Lordship” to Law/Gospel (part 2): Test Case—The Rich Young Ruler by Mike Abendroth - Politics after Christendom by David VanDrunen

In this episode, Pat sits down with David VanDrunen to take a deep dive into the topic of Natural Law.  David VanDrunen is a minister of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church and is the Robert B. Strimple Professor of Systematic Theology and Christian Ethics at Westminster Seminary California.

On today's episode, we have a special guest, David VanDrunen. We talk about the doctrine of Two Kingdoms and its implications. In short, we talk about Christianity and culture. What are Christians to be doing? What is the mission of the church? Are we to be ushering in the kingdom of God? We answer these questions and more. Semper Reformanda: The guys talk with David VanDrunen about common objections to Two Kingdoms doctrine. We cover objections from advocates of Neo Calvinism and theonomy. Does Two Kingdoms doctrine promote apathy toward cultural involvement? Giveaway: Living in God's Two Kingdoms by David VanDrunen