Podcast appearances and mentions of Tim Peterson

The Last Trade: Mark Yusko, CIO of Morgan Creek Capital Management, joins to call the SpaceX IPO and the broader AI capex wave the greatest bubble in the history of markets, why Elon's $1 trillion XAI revenue promise by 2030 is securities fraud, how DeepSeek is poised to break the AI bubble by doing what OpenAI and Anthropic do for 5 cents on the dollar, why Bitcoin's Metcalf's Law fair value already sits around $125,000 even as price trades closer to $60K, his specific October 5 cycle-bottom call for the next crypto spring, and the brutal truth that the 1986 Tax Act and the rise of the 401k were a heist on the American middle class.---

Digital twins are helping brands scale content and talent deals. Marketers are still navigating the tradeoffs. On this episode of the Digiday Podcast, hosts Kimeko McCoy and Tim Peterson unpack the rise of digital twins, AI sprawl and authenticity.

Once valued in the billions, digital media giants like BuzzFeed and Vox Media are now selling assets and restructuring as the old traffic-driven publishing model breaks down. On this episode of the Digiday Podcast, Digiday senior media editor Jessica Davies and senior media reporter Sara Guaglione joins hosts Kimeko McCoy and Tim Peterson to unpack what the fall of billion-dollar valuations says about the future of digital media.

If shoppers start turning to AI assistants instead of retailer websites, the foundation of the retail media business could begin to crack. That's the tension at the center of agentic commerce. On this episode of the Digiday Podcast, hosts Kimeko McCoy and Tim Peterson explore how AI-powered shopping agents could reshape retail media networks, disrupt ad dollars and force retailers to rethink their role in the shopper journey.

The programmatic world seems split: is AI the future of media buying, or just a tool requiring heavy supervision? Duluth Trading Company lands somewhere in the middle by leveraging agents for high-speed bidding while keeping a firm human hand on brand storytelling, Duluth's Director of Marketing Ellie Uberto joins Kimeko McCoy and Tim Peterson live from the Digiday Programmatic Marketing Summit on May 6 - 8 in Palm Springs, Calif. to break down's Duluth's approach to agents in media.

Is the era of performance-only marketing over? Performance returns are dropping. Brands are chasing AI visibility as LLMs take over search. All roads point to the return of 'brandformance.' Kimeko McCoy and Tim Peterson explain the brandformance to brand health metrics rebrand, and why marketers care about it again.

In this episode, Digiday senior marketing reporter Sam Bradley joins Digiday Podcast co-hosts Tim Peterson and Kimeko McCoy to break down Netflix's massive ad business glow up, and how the streaming giant is rewriting the streaming ad business playbook.

The AI ad race is heating up. OpenAI is staffing up and cutting deals to win brand budgets from Meta and Google. On this episode of the Digiday Podcast, Digiday senior platforms reporter Krystal Scanlon joins hosts Kimeko McCoy and Tim Peterson to breakdown the ad business playbook.

It's time to get the record store perspective on Record Store Day (April 18) from Tim Peterson, owner of Squeezebox Books & Music in Evanston, Ill. That's where I line up each RSD morning, so I visited Peterson to hear him explain how it all works. How does he determine which and how many records to order? Does he usually get what he wants? Is it worse to over- or under-order? Do the first-in-line customers tend to be flippers or just big fans? When Taylor Swift has an RSD offering, does that boost other sales? Which of this year's releases will be most in demand? What are the sleepers? What percentage of the store's annual sales come from Record Store Day? We also dissect the types of RSD offerings, such as live albums (and the inevitable Grateful Dead box); picture discs and zoetropes; collections of demos, alternative versions and rarities; deluxe album editions; represses of albums you've never heard of; and various-artists compilations.

What does it take to sell an influencer agency right now? This week on the Digiday Podcast, Digital Voices founder Jennifer Quigley-Jones joins Kimeko McCoy and Tim Peterson to break down her agency's sale to PMG. Plus, what it says about the booming creator economy M&A moment.

Anthropic took a jab at OpenAI's ad product launch and T-Mobile and Coinbase used The Backstreet Boys top play up millennial nostalgia. Now that the dust has settled around the 60-plus Super Bowl ad spots rolled out this year, Tim Peterson and Kimeko McCoy are joined by Sunny Bonnell, co-founder and CEO of global brand strategy and design agency Motto, to reflect on the best and worst commercials from Super Bowl 2026.

It's Thursday, and that means it's time to catch up on politics with The Times-Picayune/New Orleans Advocate's editorial director and columnist, Stephanie Grace. Today, she tells us what went down at D.C. Mardi Gras and how the election year changed the tone of the event. As we cocoon and try to keep warm in the winter months, our normal patterns of helping others typically drop off. And blood donations, like other critical needs, become short in supply.Dr. Tim Peterson, Medical Director of The Blood Center in New Orleans, joins us for more on why it's important to donate during the colder season. Recently, the New Orleans Museum of Art unveiled its latest exhibit: “Hayward Oubre: Structural Integrity.” The exhibit features the sculptures created by Oubre, which he often created out of found objects like wire coat hangers or TV antennas. For more on this exhibition and what it tells us about American southern art in the 20th century, we're joined by NOMA's chief curator, Anne Collins Smith. ---Today's episode of Louisiana Considered was hosted by Bob Pavlovich. Our managing producer is Alana Schreiber. We get production support from Garrett Pittman and our assistant producer, Aubry Procell.You can listen to Louisiana Considered Monday through Friday at noon and 7 p.m. It's available on Spotify, the NPR App and wherever you get your podcasts. Louisiana Considered wants to hear from you!  Please fill out our pitch line to let us know what kinds of story ideas you have for our show. And while you're at it, fill out our listener survey! We want to keep bringing you the kinds of conversations you'd like to listen to.Louisiana Considered is made possible with support from our listeners. Thank you!

This week's episode takes a look at how 2025's cliffhangers—everything from Netflix's planned acquisition of Warner Bros. Discovery to the ripple effects of the Omnicom-IPG merger—and how it all could play out in 2026. Digiday managing editor Sara Jerde and executive editor of news Seb Joseph join hosts Tim Peterson and Kimeko McCoy to try and read the 2026 tea leaves.

This year was filled with major developments, from Netflix's planned WBD deal to Omnicom's acquisition of IPG to the introduction of AI-only video feeds. But there were also developments that didn't really happen, like the U.S. spinoff of TikTok and Google's third-party cookie deprecation. Digiday editors Sara Jerde and Seb Joseph joined hosts Kimeko McCoy and Tim Peterson to recap the year that was (and wasn't).

Today, men are up against: A culture, even in some churches, that tries to emasculate them. The media often portrays fathers as useless idiots. A sex-saturated society, with sirens of lust everywhere. There is often little help equipping them in these areas, including at the church. The battles with the flesh – learning how to “buffet our body and make it our slave” Learning how to fulfill the command for Husbands to love their wives as Christ loves the church. The isolation that is so prevalent in the church. How to be a leader in their home? Mike and Tim Peterson, counselor and leader of the Blazing Grace men’s ministry, discuss how men can find their way – and most importantly, their heart – so they can thrive and make an impact in today’s challenging environment.

In this episode of the American Grassfed Association Podcast, we sit down with Tim Peterson, founder of Arizona Grass Raised Beef, to talk about what it takes to produce truly grassfed and grass-finished beef in the Southwest.Tim shares his journey as a rancher, the challenges of operating in Arizona's unique climate, and how transparency, sustainability, and animal welfare drive every part of his business.We also explore how independent producers like Tim are helping shape the future of American beef—proving that integrity and innovation can go hand in hand.

Blood donors are always needed, and you can help save lives with the gift of blood donation. Tim Peterson, Medical Director for The Blood Center, joins us to explain how you can help.

Tim Peterson is the leader of our men's ministry. He leads our 8 week men's courses, leads support and prayer groups, and does counseling, including 2 day intensives. He has also been a missionary to Uganda. Sandy England has been with Blazing Grace for more than 10 years. She leads our wives ministry does counseling wives, and plays a critical role in prayer which is the engine of BG. In this second of two shows, Tim and Sandy join Mike to discuss a range of topics, beginning with Ozzy Osbourne and how Christians affirmed the life and music of someone who promoted the occult and witchcraft.

Tim Peterson is the leader of our men's ministry. He leads our 8 week men's courses, leads support and prayer groups, and does counseling, including 2 day intensives. He has also been a missionary to Uganda. Sandy England has been with Blazing Grace for more than 10 years. She leads our wives ministry does counseling wives, and plays a critical role in prayer which is the engine of BG. In this first of two shows, Tim and Sandy join Mike to discuss a range of topics, beginning with childlike faith.

The Blood Center is in need of donations, particularly type O+. We get the details on how you can help with Tim Peterson, the medical director of The Blood Center.

Dr Tim Peterson joins Dave to talk about how you can donate blood at the Blood Center.

Creator Brandon Edelman stops by the Digiday Podcast to talk about his pivot to full-time content creation, how he strikes brand deals and life after TikTok (22:00). Also on this episode, Digiday platforms reporter Krytsal Scanlon joins co-hosts Kimeko McCoy and Tim Peterson to talk about Linda Yaccarino's exit from X, what WPP's new CEO means for the holding company's growth and how AI is shaping the next era of the browser wars.

YouTuber Michelle Khare joins the Digiday Podcast to break down how she's leveling up her content — from viral challenges to Emmy buzz (18:24). Plus, co-hosts Kimeko McCoy and Tim Peterson unpack Paramount's $16 million settlement with the Trump administration, why European publishers are taking aim at Google's AI Overviews, and what TikTok's rumored app reboot means for its U.S. future.

On this episode of the Digiday Podcast, Patricia Corsi, chief growth officer at Kimberly-Clark, joins hosts Kimeko McCoy and Tim Peterson to kick off Cannes Lions 2025. Corsi shares her approach to Cannes and how she's sifting through AI hype chatter to get to the real talk of Cannes. This episode marks the start of Digiday's daily podcast coverage from Cannes. Tune in every day this week for fresh conversations with marketers, media execs and creatives on the ground.

On this episode of the Digiday Podcast, co-hosts Kimeko McCoy, senior marketing reporter, and Tim Peterson, executive editor of video and audio, sit down with editor-in-chief Jim Cooper and executive news editor Seb Joseph to share their top tips for surviving Cannes Lions (18:06). Also on this episode: Warner Bros. Discovery's plan to split into two companies, why the ad spend outlook isn't as grim as expected, and WPP Media's ambitious AI play.

On this episode of the Digiday Podcast, co-hosts Kimeko McCoy, senior marketing reporter, and Tim Peterson, executive editor of video and audio. sit with Marie Claire's EIC Nikki Ogunnaike about her day-to-day routine (14:42). Also on this episode: Amazon announces its first content licensing deal with a publisher, Business Insider makes staff cuts amid AI growth and Meta goes all in on AI ads.

On this episode of the Digiday Podcast, co-hosts Kimeko McCoy, senior marketing reporter, and Tim Peterson, executive editor of video and audio, talk about the new SEO playbook in the AI era, why OpenAI is poaching Instacart's CEO; and what Netflix's new home screen means for product recommendations and, ultimately, ad personalization.

This week's Digiday Podcast episode recaps the gloomy Q2 outlook in Meta's, Amazon's and Snap's latest quarterly earnings reports, the roll-out of ads to AI chatbots and how Roku's FrndlyTV acquisition could set it up to be a bigger streaming aggregator. Then Digiday senior media buying editor Michael Bürgi joins hosts Kimeko McCoy and Tim Peterson (19:27) to break down what are set to be the hot topics heading into this year's TV and streaming advertising upfront market.

On this week's episode of the Digiday podcast co-hosts Kimeko McCoy, senior marketing reporter, and Tim Peterson, executive editor of video and audio, talk about Google's U-turn, keeping its third-party cookies in Chrome after all and the ripple effects of its anti-trust case fallout. Also on this episode, Hillary Kupferberg, vp of performance marketing at Exverus Media, breaks down the art of the JBP (joint business plan) deal in retail media (18:58).

On the final regular episode of Chasing Three Hours, Josh's dad Tim Peterson joined the pod to discuss the 2025 Boston Marathon, including:* Did Josh believe he'd be at the 2025 Boston Marathon when he first put out a goal of chasing three hours? (4:31)* Josh's training going sideways so early on in his training block (8:42)* How much of the mental side of training is tied to good results? (15:34)* Getting to the starting corral and what Josh was saying to himself as the race got closer (29:49)* The early miles of the race (38:32)* How did he feel at the halfway mark? (50:21)* The emotions of seeing family on the course (58:05)* What did Josh learn about himself? (1:11:41)They finish the pod (1:17:05) by discussing why running makes Josh a better person, what his favorite part about running is, and what he's currently chasing. All that and a whole lot more!Thanks to Fleet Feet Omaha for being the title sponsor of Chasing Three Hours! Stop by one of their two Omaha locations, or Fleet Feet Lincoln, for $15 off your first pair of shoes at regular price.Thanks to Forward Physical Therapy and Performance for being a sponsor of the podcast! As a podcast listener/newsletter subscriber, you also get access to a free 15‑minute pain and performance screen. Just head to forwardomaha.com/chasing-three-hours/ to claim this offer!Like what you hear? Please rate, review, subscribe, and share with a friend.Read Josh's newsletter at chasingthreehours.com.Know anyone that would be a great fit for the pod or just want to drop Josh a note? Email chasingthreehours@gmail.com.Music, production assistance, and sound design: Ian AeilloCover art: Marissa Peterson Get full access to Chasing Three Hours at joshtweeterson.substack.com/subscribe

On the Digiday Podcast this week, hosts Kimeko McCoy, senior marketing reporter and Tim Peterson, executive editor of video and audio, discuss the ripple effects of President Donald Trump's tariffs on the marketing and advertising industry (18:20). To make sense of all the tariff talk, they are joined by senior marketing editor Kristina Monllos and senior reporter Sam Bradley. Also on this episode, Peterson and McCoy discuss big tech's antitrust trials, including the long-awaited ruling in Google's ad tech antitrust battle with the Justice Department, OpenAI's rumored X-like social media network and Netflix's latest earnings.

Josh welcomes Cris Gutierrez, Derek Loseke, Amy DeLong, Erin Genova, Blake Ziegler, Alex Predhome, Jodi Semonell, Kassia Ulffers, Kimberly Bailey, Peter Bromka, Seth Marek, Stephen Mohring, and his dad, Tim Peterson, back to the podcast to give a preview of the 2025 Boston Marathon, including:* How to handle things pre-race… (2:45)* Including fueling (9:25)* And how to handle everything at the Athlete's Village (12:32)* The early miles and the downhill to start (18:56)* Keeping an even effort early… (28:03)* Because then you'll hit the Newton Hills (29:01)* Soaking the weekend in (35:34)* Putting expectations aside (39:20)* A final piece of advice for the day after the race (40:18)And a whole lot more!Thanks to Fleet Feet Omaha for being the title sponsor of Chasing Three Hours! Stop by one of their two Omaha locations, or Fleet Feet Lincoln, for $15 off your first pair of shoes at regular price.Like what you hear? Please rate, review, subscribe, and share with a friend.Read Josh's weekly newsletter at chasingthreehours.com.Know anyone that would be a great fit for the pod or just want to drop Josh a note? Email chasingthreehours@gmail.com.Music, production assistance, and sound design: Ian AeilloCover art: Marissa Peterson Get full access to Chasing Three Hours at joshtweeterson.substack.com/subscribe

On the Digiday Podcast this week, hosts Kimeko McCoy, senior marketing reporter and Tim Peterson, executive editor of video and audio, discuss the TikTok ban's second extension (yes, it has been extended yet again), tariff's trickle down effects and why agency holding companies are looking to bolster the data capabilities. Also on this episode, Amie Owen (17:28), chief commerce officer at Kinesso, a performance marketing agency within IPG Mediabrands, breaks down how economic uncertainty impacts retail media spend negotiations, otherwise known as joint business planning (JBP), as well as what's to blame for retail media's executive dysfunction.

The Blood Center still needs your help with blood donations after the terror attack. Tommy gets the details from Dr. Tim Peterson, the Medical Director at The Blood Center

Tommy talks with Dr. Tim Peterson, the Medical Director of The Blood Center, about the need for blood donations

2025 is expected to be a hell of a year, if you ask the Digiday staff. After the whirlwind that was 2024, the new year seems to promise a cocktail of chaos and topics the industry can't escape. Or as Digiday managing editor Sara Jerde puts it, “2025 will be the year of the Twinkies, the cockroaches, TikTok potential ban, and third-party cookies.” Last year, several rocks were thrown in the water, ripple effects that'll shake out in 2025 with everything from mergers and acquisitions, a la Omnicom's proposed acquisition of IPG or BuzzFeed's sale of First We Feast, to the proliferation of the social media landscape and the TikTok ban. In this final episode of the year of the Digiday Podcast, host Tim Peterson, executive editor of video and audio at Digiday, is joined by Jerde and Seb Joseph, Digiday's executive editor of news, to discuss what marketers, advertisers and the media need to know to ring in the new year.

On this episode, Luke Peterson joined Josh to discuss:* Why he started running after so many years of avoiding it (6:02)* Running gear being a great entry point into the sport (8:52)* A switch flipping with his running (19:12)* Running a half marathon with his dad, and former guest of the pod, Tim Peterson (24:32)* Where he hopes his running journey goes next (38:33)* Advice to new runners (49:24)* What he's currently chasing (50:52)And a whole lot more!Thanks to Fleet Feet Omaha for being the title sponsor of Chasing Three Hours! Stop by one of their two Omaha locations, or Fleet Feet Lincoln, for $15 off your first pair of shoes at regular price.Thanks to Javi's Tacos for being a sponsor of Chasing Three Hours! Stop by one of their three Omaha locations and mention the podcast for 10% off your order!Like what you hear? Please rate, review, subscribe, and share with a friend.Read Josh's weekly newsletter at chasingthreehours.com.Know anyone that would be a great fit for the pod or just want to drop Josh a note? Email chasingthreehours@gmail.com.Music, production assistance, and sound design: Ian AeilloCover art: Marissa Peterson Get full access to Chasing Three Hours at joshtweeterson.substack.com/subscribe

Since the U.S. presidential election was called, the advertising industry has been parsing through the tea leaves, trying to understand exactly what a Trump presidency means for business. That picture is starting to come into clearer focus as Trump continues to announce cabinet picks and assemble the incoming administration. For example, last week, Trump picked Robert F. Kennedy Jr., a vaccine skeptic who has called for pharmaceutical ads to be banned, to potentially be named Secretary of Health and Human Services. On this week's episode of the Digiday Podcast, executive editor, video, audio, Tim Peterson and senior marketing reporter Kimeko McCoy are joined by senior marketing editor Kristina Monllos and senior media reporter Sara Guaglione to talk about the incoming administration's ripple effects on publishing, marketing and media.

It's been roughly a week since Donald Trump was voted into his second presidential term and already, his return to the White House is expected to send ripple effects throughout the advertising world. Publishers are considering what a second Trump presidency looks like in regards to traffic spikes and subscription revenue, otherwise known as the Trump Bump. The brand safety playbook regarding where an advertiser shows up in media may soon need to be reconsidered as more brands look to avoid backlash in the so-called culture wars. All said, it won't be until January's inauguration that the full picture of Trump's presidency comes into focus. But until then, executive editor of news Seb Joseph joins the Digiday Podcast alongside executive editor, video, audio Tim Peterson and senior marketing reporter Kimeko McCoy to discuss what a Trump presidency means for publishers on the heels of the Digiday Publishing Summit in Europe (DPSE). Also in this episode, a recap of Google's antitrust case and what happens next with the incoming administration.

Tommy talks with Tim Peterson, Medical Director at The Blood Center

Dr Tim Peterson joins Don to talk about how you can donate blood as there are shortages this Summer. 

I had Tim Peterson on today, and it was really a wonderful podcast. He's an individual I've wanted to have on for very long time. I've had many conversations with him over the years and he's been on the podcast recently, speaking on exhibits at the Western Spirit: Scottsdale's Museum of the West, but this time I wanted HIS story.This is an individual who is a very serious collector. He's done around ten or so major exhibits on the different items he collects and they're always phenomenal exhibits. There's a multitude of them, Native American objects of art and Western paintings. The breadth is shocking and wonderful. Every time I go to the Western Spirit, I make sure to go see the permanent exhibit he curated: Courage and Crossroads.In this case, on this podcast, I learned about a painting that I've talked about before, which is a Herman Wendelborg Hansen, but I didn't realize it was the first really significant piece that he had ever collected.So it's a very unique podcast. You hear how somebody goes all in on collecting and giving back, because Tim's not just collecting for himself, it's just the opposite. He collects to build a story and he's giving it to the world to take it as is.We owe a debt of gratitude to people like Tim Peterson and I'm grateful he took the time to be a part of the Art Dealer Diaries Podcast episode 300.

This podcast is different than most because it's really a visual podcast. So I highly recommend watching the YouTube version so you can see the imagery that we're talking about. Not that it isn't interesting to listen to, but the imagery will really add to the experience.I had the opportunity to go and spend the afternoon with Tim Peterson, who curated the Tom Gilleon Retrospective at the Western Spirit: Scottdale's Museum of the West, as well as Courage and Crossroads, an exhibit of Peterson's personal art collection that has been on display at the museum since it opened. Tim spoke with me at length about both exhibits and the incredible look into western art that they both provide.The first exhibit was all about the art and career of the amazing contemporary western painter, Tom Gilleon. I was really blown away at the sope of the work and the many pieces on display that highlight Gilleon's contribution to the world of western art.The second, Courage and Crossroads, is a compilation of early Native American art as well as Western art, all the way from the earliest Catlins all the way through to the Taos founders and Maynard Dixon.It's really an amazing collection. I've probably seen the collection 50 times, and I still find things that I didn't know about. It's a great place for learning and absorbing the history of the American West and I was very fortunate to have Tim take the time and go through the entire collection.I hope you enjoy it. Again, I think you'll find it more interesting if you  watch  the YouTube component, but either way, it's great to hear someone as knowledgeable as Tim Peterson speak on the art we all love so much.

This year was another one for the advertising and media history books, but not for the ways that marketers and media execs hoped for at the start of 2023. Brands' advertising budgets never quite found their footing and the competition for ad revenue only got steeper. On top of that, the platforms are no longer reliable places to drive traffic or revenue but competing with their scale is a losing game. Plus generative AI is quickly finding its way into virtually every facet of the industry — for worse or better. In this final episode of the year of the Digiday Podcast, senior marketing editor Kristina Monllos and senior media editor Tim Peterson join co-hosts Kimeko McCoy and Kayleigh Barber to discuss some of the top trends from the past year and which challenges and opportunities are expected to continue in 2024.

We recently received a WHYsconsin question from Elizabeth Renner of Madison. She asked us, “Why are tubas such a prominent part of the UW-Madison band? And why are they so popular in the state of Wisconsin?” WPR’s Tim Peterson marched right down to the Madison campus to get some answers.

Welcome to Chasing Three Hours, a podcast about what runners are chasing, why they keep pushing themselves, and what keeps them curious! On this episode of the podcast, live from the Good Life Halfsy expo, Tim Peterson returned to the podcast to talk about:Goals with running as the calendar flipped to 2019 (7:50)Did he feel like he missed out on running as much as some did in 2020? (12:38)Running as a St. Jude Hero for close to a decade (28:35)Health issues at the end of 2020 keeping him off the trail (38:14)Why turning 58 is so important to him (45:07)His favorite part of the St. Jude community (50:43)What he's chasing (52:59)And a lot more.Support St. Jude as Tim prepares to run in Memphis next month!Miss part one of the interview? Check it out here!Stop by Peak Performance and mention this podcast for $15 off your first pair of shoes at regular price!Like what you hear? Please rate, review, subscribe, and share with a friend.Read Josh's weekly newsletter at chasingthreehours.com. Email Josh at chasingthreehours@gmail.com.Music, production assistance, and sound design: Ian AeilloCover art: Marissa Barton Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Not sleeping enough turning you into a monster? In one of our most popular episodes, we bring you the cutting-edge science that helps us understand why. And we sort through the fads to find out, what really works to get more ZZZs. We speak with lab coordinator Pam DeYoung, sleep researcher Dr. Brady Riedner, and circadian scientist Prof. Russell Foster.  Find our transcript here: https://bit.ly/ScienceVsSleep2023 In this episode, we cover: (00:00) Not sleeping sucks (03:00) What does lack of sleep do to us? (06:07) Our beer vs. sleepiness experiment (10:56) What happens in a sleepy brain (17:45) How circadian rhythm affects sleep (21:19) Does melatonin help with sleep? (23:50) Does blue light keep us awake? This episode was produced by Rose Rimler and Lexi Krupp with help from Wendy Zukerman, Michelle Dang, Meryl Horn and Kaitlyn Sawrey. Editing by Caitlin Kenney. Fact checking by Diane Kelly and Erica Akiko Howard. Mix and sound design by Peter Leonard and Bumi Hidaka. Music written by Peter Leonard, Emma Munger, Bobby Lord, and Bach. Recording assistance from Dave Drexler, Tim Peterson, Zoe Sullivan, and Martin Wiggins. Sonification of EEG data came from Dr. Gerold Baier and Dr. Thomas Hermann. A huge thanks to Dr. Amandine Valomon, Prof. James Krueger, Dr. Ari Shechter, Dr. Jade Wu, Dr. Bei Bei, Dr. Connor Sheehan, Dr. Jennifer Ailshire, Dr. Agostinho Rosa, and everyone else we spoke to for this episode, especially our frustrated sleepers. Thank you so much for all the voice messages! And special thanks to Chuma Ossé, the Zukerman family and Joseph Lavelle Wilson. Science Vs is a Spotify Studios Original. Listen for free on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Follow us and tap the bell for episode notifications.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz take the show on the road and gab live with Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers; discuss the new Speaker of the House Mike Johnson; and review the former lawyers and Chief of Staff who will testify against Donald Trump.    Here are some notes and references from this week's show: City Cast Madison podcast and Madison Minutes newsletter Jennifer Rubin for The Washington Post: “Wisconsin Dems' big wins for the rule of law might be an inflection point” Scott Bauer for AP: “Wisconsin Supreme Court asked to draw new legislative boundaries over Republican objections” James Hohmann for The Washington Post: “In Wisconsin, Tony Evers made a virtue of being dull” Amy Gardner and Michael Kranish for The Washington Post: “New speaker Mike Johnson's 2020 election denial could have 2024 implications” Carl Hulse for The New York Times: “The Far Right Gets Its Man of the House” Ours Was the Shining Future: The Story of the American Dream by David Leonhardt  Katherine Faulders, Mike Levine, and Alexander Mallin for ABC News: “Ex-Chief of Staff Mark Meadows granted immunity, tells special counsel he warned Trump about 2020 claims: Sources” Paul Blumenthal for HuffPost: “The Guilty Pleas In Trump's Georgia Indictment Are Starting To Roll Uphill” David French for The New York Times: “Trump's Lawyers Are Going Down. Is He?”   Here are this week's chatters: John: Mark Shanahan for The Boston Globe: “The Great Molasses Flood of 1919 was Boston's strangest disaster“ and Dark Tide: The Great Molasses Flood of 1919 by Stephen Puleo   Emily: Hesket Oslo podcast by Arnon Degani; This Is Palestine podcast by the Institute for Middle East Understanding; and The Ezra Klein Show podcast: “The Jewish Left Is Trying to Hold Two Thoughts at Once” David: Vocal coach Karen Harris and “Jersey Girl” by Tom Waits Listener chatter from Jake Sinderbrand: University of Wisconsin-Madison: “Wisconsin Idea” and Babcock Dairy Store Listener chatter from Mike Duncan: The Storm Before the Storm: The Beginning of the End of the Roman Republic; Hero of Two Worlds: The Marquis de Lafayette in the Age of Revolution; The History of Rome podcast; and Revolutions podcast For this week's Slate Plus bonus segment, Emily, John, and David answer questions from the Madison audience. In the latest Gabfest Reads, David talks with Kristi Coulter about her book, Exit Interview: The Life and Death of My Ambitious Career.   Email your chatters, questions, and comments to gabfest@slate.com. (Messages may be referenced by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.) Podcast production by Cheyna Roth and Tim Peterson. Special thanks to Katie Rayford. Research by Julie Huygen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz take the show on the road and gab live with Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers; discuss the new Speaker of the House Mike Johnson; and review the former lawyers and Chief of Staff who will testify against Donald Trump.    Here are some notes and references from this week's show: City Cast Madison podcast and Madison Minutes newsletter Jennifer Rubin for The Washington Post: “Wisconsin Dems' big wins for the rule of law might be an inflection point” Scott Bauer for AP: “Wisconsin Supreme Court asked to draw new legislative boundaries over Republican objections” James Hohmann for The Washington Post: “In Wisconsin, Tony Evers made a virtue of being dull” Amy Gardner and Michael Kranish for The Washington Post: “New speaker Mike Johnson's 2020 election denial could have 2024 implications” Carl Hulse for The New York Times: “The Far Right Gets Its Man of the House” Ours Was the Shining Future: The Story of the American Dream by David Leonhardt  Katherine Faulders, Mike Levine, and Alexander Mallin for ABC News: “Ex-Chief of Staff Mark Meadows granted immunity, tells special counsel he warned Trump about 2020 claims: Sources” Paul Blumenthal for HuffPost: “The Guilty Pleas In Trump's Georgia Indictment Are Starting To Roll Uphill” David French for The New York Times: “Trump's Lawyers Are Going Down. Is He?”   Here are this week's chatters: John: Mark Shanahan for The Boston Globe: “The Great Molasses Flood of 1919 was Boston's strangest disaster“ and Dark Tide: The Great Molasses Flood of 1919 by Stephen Puleo   Emily: Hesket Oslo podcast by Arnon Degani; This Is Palestine podcast by the Institute for Middle East Understanding; and The Ezra Klein Show podcast: “The Jewish Left Is Trying to Hold Two Thoughts at Once” David: Vocal coach Karen Harris and “Jersey Girl” by Tom Waits Listener chatter from Jake Sinderbrand: University of Wisconsin-Madison: “Wisconsin Idea” and Babcock Dairy Store Listener chatter from Mike Duncan: The Storm Before the Storm: The Beginning of the End of the Roman Republic; Hero of Two Worlds: The Marquis de Lafayette in the Age of Revolution; The History of Rome podcast; and Revolutions podcast For this week's Slate Plus bonus segment, Emily, John, and David answer questions from the Madison audience. In the latest Gabfest Reads, David talks with Kristi Coulter about her book, Exit Interview: The Life and Death of My Ambitious Career.   Email your chatters, questions, and comments to gabfest@slate.com. (Messages may be referenced by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.) Podcast production by Cheyna Roth and Tim Peterson. Special thanks to Katie Rayford. Research by Julie Huygen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Emily Bazelon, John Dickerson, and David Plotz take the show on the road and gab live with Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers; discuss the new Speaker of the House Mike Johnson; and review the former lawyers and Chief of Staff who will testify against Donald Trump.    Here are some notes and references from this week's show: City Cast Madison podcast and Madison Minutes newsletter Jennifer Rubin for The Washington Post: “Wisconsin Dems' big wins for the rule of law might be an inflection point” Scott Bauer for AP: “Wisconsin Supreme Court asked to draw new legislative boundaries over Republican objections” James Hohmann for The Washington Post: “In Wisconsin, Tony Evers made a virtue of being dull” Amy Gardner and Michael Kranish for The Washington Post: “New speaker Mike Johnson's 2020 election denial could have 2024 implications” Carl Hulse for The New York Times: “The Far Right Gets Its Man of the House” Ours Was the Shining Future: The Story of the American Dream by David Leonhardt  Katherine Faulders, Mike Levine, and Alexander Mallin for ABC News: “Ex-Chief of Staff Mark Meadows granted immunity, tells special counsel he warned Trump about 2020 claims: Sources” Paul Blumenthal for HuffPost: “The Guilty Pleas In Trump's Georgia Indictment Are Starting To Roll Uphill” David French for The New York Times: “Trump's Lawyers Are Going Down. Is He?”   Here are this week's chatters: John: Mark Shanahan for The Boston Globe: “The Great Molasses Flood of 1919 was Boston's strangest disaster“ and Dark Tide: The Great Molasses Flood of 1919 by Stephen Puleo   Emily: Hesket Oslo podcast by Arnon Degani; This Is Palestine podcast by the Institute for Middle East Understanding; and The Ezra Klein Show podcast: “The Jewish Left Is Trying to Hold Two Thoughts at Once” David: Vocal coach Karen Harris and “Jersey Girl” by Tom Waits Listener chatter from Jake Sinderbrand: University of Wisconsin-Madison: “Wisconsin Idea” and Babcock Dairy Store Listener chatter from Mike Duncan: The Storm Before the Storm: The Beginning of the End of the Roman Republic; Hero of Two Worlds: The Marquis de Lafayette in the Age of Revolution; The History of Rome podcast; and Revolutions podcast For this week's Slate Plus bonus segment, Emily, John, and David answer questions from the Madison audience. In the latest Gabfest Reads, David talks with Kristi Coulter about her book, Exit Interview: The Life and Death of My Ambitious Career.   Email your chatters, questions, and comments to gabfest@slate.com. (Messages may be referenced by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.) Podcast production by Cheyna Roth and Tim Peterson. Special thanks to Katie Rayford. Research by Julie Huygen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices