Ellen and Harriet are a mother and daughter who have been talking about Jane Austen together since Harriet was first old enough to read her. In this podcast, we will be doing a close reading of the books.In each episode, we will look at a few chapters. As well as talking about anything that strikes us in the chapters, we will also pick a favourite sentence, have a discussion about one of the characters, and then Ellen will give a social historian perspective about some element of the nineteenth century that seems pertinent, and Harriet will talk about the chapters in pop culture adaptations of the book.
In this episode, we talk about these transitional chapters between the events at Lyme and the move to Bath. We consider the position of the old nurse in the Musgrove household, how Anne is feeling a bit sorry for herself, the delightful scenes with the Crofts and with Charles and Mary, how Mr Elliot is described as ‘underhung', and the way Anne and Mr Elliot get on well with each other.The characters we discuss are Mr and Mrs Musgrove. In the historical section, Ellen talks about Bath, and for popular culture Harriet discusses the 2019 YouTube series Rational Creatures.Things we mention:General discussion:Janet Todd and Antje Blank [Editors], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Persuasion (2006)Noel Streatfeild, Gran-Nannie (1976) and Ballet Shoes (1936)Novels of Charlotte M. YongeEvelyn Waugh, Brideshead Revisited (1945)Alexander Pope, ‘The Rape of the Lock‘ (1712)Historical discussion:The Venerable Bede (c.672-735)Nennius (9th century Welsh monk)Google map of locations in Persuasion, zoomed in on BathPopular culture discussion:Rational Creatures (2019, YouTube) – starring Kristina Pupo and Peter GiesslHarriet's interview with the creators of Rational CreaturesCreative commons music used:Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio.Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen.Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major. File originally from Musopen.
In this episode, we talk about Lyme, the connection between Anne and Captain Benwick, whether these chapters make us wonder if Anne will end up with someone other than Captain Wentworth, and Louisa's fall from the steps.The characters we discuss are Captains Harville and Benwick. In the historical section, Ellen talks about romantic poetry, and for popular culture Harriet discusses the 2022 Netflix film adaptation of Persuasion.Things we mention:General discussion:Janet Todd and Antje Blank [Editors], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Persuasion (2006)Samuel Johnson, The Rambler (periodical, published 1750-1752)Dr John GregoryHester ChaponeStairs on the CobbThe stairs closest to the shore (used in the 1971 adaptation)The middle set of stairs, known as ‘Granny's teeth' (used in the 1995 adaptation)The third set of stairs (used in the 2007 and 2022 adaptations)Google map of the steps on the Cobb For a list of references in the Historical and Popular culture sections, see this episode on our website.
In this episode, we talk about how how Jane Austen has solved the problem of the infodump, the realism of the scene with little Walter, how she shows the relations within families, and how events on the walk to Winthrop affect Wentworth's feelings.The characters we discuss Louisa and Henrietta Musgrove. In the historical section, Ellen talks about curates, and for popular culture both Harriet discusses the 2007 ITV film adaptation of Persuasion.Things we mention:General discussion:Janet Todd and Antje Blank [Editors], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Persuasion (2006)Maria Edgeworth (reference in the Persuasion footnotes is to A Memoir of Maria Edgeworth with a Selection from her Letters (1867), vold. 2, pp. 5-6.)Character discussion:Irene Collins, Jane Austen and the Clergy (2002)Historical discussion:Anthony Trollope, The Last Chronicle of Barset (1867)Stipendiary Curate Act 1713 Popular culture discussion:Clerkenwell Films, Persuasion (2007) – starring Sally Hawkins and Rupert Penry-JonesWatch on YouTubeStairs on the Cobb (photo)Louisa's fall (this YouTube video shows the same scene from four different adaptations of Persuasion)Creative commons music used:Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio.Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen.Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major. File originally from Musopen.
This is an in-between ‘extras' episode. Our episodes are normally not more than an hour in length, which means that we usually have to cut a certain amount of material in the editing. But for Episode 3, we had much more material than usual. So we kept the episode down to an hour, but decided to release an ‘extras' episode, with some of the bits we edited out.It's a bit disjointed, but we hope you enjoy it.THINGS WE MENTIONCharacter discussion:Sheila Kaye-Smith and G.B. Stern, Talking of Jane Austen (1943) and More Talk of Jane Austen (1950)Historical discussion:The Aubrey & Maturin novels of Patrick O'BrienAdmiral Thomas Cochrane (1775-1860)Popular culture discussion:BBC Film, Persuasion (1995) – starring Amanda Root and Ciarán HindsThe Bounty (1984)CREATIVE COMMONS MUSIC USEDExtract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio.Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen.Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major. File originally from Musopen.
In this episode, we talk about how how Jane Austen tells us about the feelings of Anne and Captain Wentworth, and how the narrator captures Anne's emotions; the building up of the relationship between Charles and Mary, and their reaction to Little Charles' accident; Mrs Musgrove's feelings about her son; and Mrs Croft's travels.The character we discuss is Captain Wentworth. In the historical section, Harriet's partner Michael talks about the Navy, and for popular culture both Harriet and Michael discuss 1995 BBC film adaptation of Persuasion.Things we mention:General discussion:Janet Todd and Antje Blank [Editors], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Persuasion (2006)Character discussion:First Impressions podcast, ‘Ep 17: Persuading Kristin to Like Persuasion‘, 22 January 2017.Historical discussion:Security to Merchant Ships Act 1707 (6 Ann. c. 65), generally known as the Cruisers and Convoys Act 1708Distribution of prize money: see table on our websitePopular culture discussion:BBC Film, Persuasion (1995) – starring Amanda Root and Ciarán HindsWatch on YouTubeStairs on the Cobb (photo)Louisa's fall (this YouTube video shows the same scene from four different adaptations of Persuasion)Creative commons music used:Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio.Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen.Extract from Christoph Willibald Gluck, Orfeo ed Euridice. File from IMSLP.Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major. File originally from Musopen.
In this episode, we talk about how the backstory of Anne and Wentworth is presented without comedy, and yet is absolutely enjoyable. We then move on to the introduction of Mary, and why she is the way she is, the generational change we see in the Musgrove family, and the very unsympathetic portrayal of Dick Musgrove.The character we discuss is Lady Russell. In the historical section, Ellen talks about social precedence, and for popular culture Harriet has watched the 1972 Spanish television adaptation of Persuasion.Things we mention:General discussion:Janet Todd and Antje Blank [Editors], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Persuasion (2006)George Eliot, Middlemarch(1872)Maria Edgeworth, The Good French Governess (1801)Charlotte M. Yonge, The Daisy Chain (1856)Ethel Turner, Seven Little Australians(1894)Historical discussion:Anthony Powell, The Acceptance World (1955)The Right Hon. the Countess of *******, Mixing in Society: A Complete Manual of Manners (1870)Debrett's Tables of PrecedencePopular culture discussion:TVE, Novela: Persuasión (1972) – starring Maite Blasco and Juan DiegoWatch on YouTube: PlaylistCreative commons music used:Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio.Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen.Extract from Christoph Willibald Gluck, Orfeo ed Euridice. File from IMSLP.Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major. File originally from Musopen.
In this episode, we talk about the publishing history of Persuasion, the precise dates we are given in the book, the fact that we learn very little about Anne in the first chapters, and how well Mr Shepherd is managing Sir Walter.The character we discuss is Sir Walter Elliot. In the historical section, Ellen talks about baronets, and for popular culture Harriet gives an overview of the screen adaptations of Persuasion, and then talks in more detail about the about the 1971 BBC adaptation.Things we mention:Historical discussion:John Debrett, The Baronetage of England, containing their Descent and Present State (1808)William Dugdale, The antient usage in bearing of such ensigns of honour as are commonly called arms (1682)Thomas Wotton, The English Baronetage : containing a genealogical and historical account of all the English baronets, now existing (1741)John Burke, A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Landed Gentry (1838)Popular culture discussion:BBC, Persuasion (1960) – starring Daphne Slater and Paul DanemanBBC, Persuasion (1971) – starring Ann Firbank and Bryan MarshallWatch on YouTube: Part 1 and Part 2Stairs on the CobbTVE, Novela: Persuasión (1972) – starring Maite Blasco and Juan DiegoBBC Film, Persuasion (1995) – starring Amanda Root and Ciarán HindsClerkenwell Films, Persuasion (2007) – starring Sally Hawkins and Rupert Penry-JonesNetflix, Persuasion (2022) – starring Dakota Johnson and Cosmo JarvisCreative commons music used:Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio.Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen.Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major. File originally from Musopen.
Just a quick update to let you know that our Persuasion season will be starting in November. We've recorded the first few episodes, but Harriet has been too busy at work to finish editing them. She's going to be away for a few weeks, but will start releasing the episodes on her return in November.We've added the new season to the website menu, with a provisional episode listing.
In this episode, we finish up Emma with chapters 51 to 55. We talk about the decision for Mr Knightley to move to Hartfield, the resolution of Harriet's story, and the final scenes between Mr and Mrs Elton. We also reflect on the insights we have gained through this close reading of Emma, and how it has changed our views of the novel.The character we discuss is Jane Fairfax. In the historical section, Ellen briefly revisits her earlier comments about vicars, and then talks about magistrates. For popular culture Harriet talks about four books that retell some or all of the story through the point of view of a different character.Things we mention:General and character discussion:Richard Cronin and Dorothy McMillan [Editors], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Emma (2005)Janet Saidi, ‘Jane Fairfax Drops the Mic‘, The Austen Connection (9 September 2021)Historical discussion:William Savage, ‘The Georgian Clergy', Pen and Pension (16 May 2018)Charlotte M. Yonge, Talks about the Laws We Live Under (1850)Irene Collins, Jane Austen and the Clergy (1994)Alan Lambert, ‘650 years of the office of Justice of the Peace/Magistrate‘, Amicus Curiae Issue 88 (2011)Elizabeth Gaskell, My Lady Ludlow (1858)Popular culture discussion:Naomi Royde-Smith, Jane Fairfax (1940)William Makepeace Thackeray, Vanity Fair (1847) – the character of Becky Sharpe appears in Jane FairfaxCharacters from the novels of Maria Edgeworth also appear (and probably other novelists as well)Joan Austen-Leigh, A Visit to Highbury: Another View of Emma (1995)Diana Birchall, In Defense of Mrs Elton (1999)Amanda Grange, Mr Knightley's Diary (2006)For a list of music used, see this episode on our website.
In this episode, we are joined by Harriet's partner, Michael, and read chapters 46 to 50 of Emma. We talk about Emma's emotional roller coaster, reactions to the Frank-Jane revelation, the proposal scene and Emma's commitment to her father.The character we discuss is Frank Churchill, and then Michael talks about the changing lifestyle of Regency gentleman. In the popular culture section, Harriet talks about three books that are modernised versions of Emma.Things we mention:Character discussion: Serene, The Piano Scene: through Jane's eyes (11 December 2023) – and some other posts about EmmaPopular culture discussion:Alexander McCall Smith, Emma: A modern retelling (2014)Sonali Dev, The Emma Project(2022)Audrey Bellezza and Emily Harding, Emma of 83rd Street(2023)Mäda Primavesi by Gustav KlimtCreative commons music used:Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio.Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen.Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major. File originally from Musopen.
In this episode, we read chapters 42 to 45 of Emma. We talk about the dropping of clues about Jane and Frank, Donwell Abbey and Mr Knightley's arrangements for the strawberry picking, how nobody is enjoying themselves at Box Hill, and the pressures on Jane.The character we discuss is Emma, and in the historical section Ellen talks about watering places. In the popular culture section, Harriet reflects back on the screen adaptations of Emma, considering her favourite moments from each version, and then how they dealt with some of the major characters.Things we mention:General and character discussion:Richard Cronin and Dorothy McMillan [Editors], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Emma (2005)Pod and Prejudice podcastJohn Sutherland, Is Heathcliff a murderer?: Puzzles in 19th-century fiction (1996) and Who Betrays Elizabeth Bennet?: Further Puzzles in Classic Fiction (1999)‘The Thing About the Irish Car Party‘, The Thing About Austen podcast, Episode 70 Sheila Kaye-Smith and G.B. Stern, Talking of Jane Austen (1943) and More Talk of Jane Austen (1950)Historical discussion:Dorothy L. Sayers, Have His Carcase (1932)Beau Nash (1674-1762), well-known dandy and Master of Ceremonies at Bath‘The Thing About Weymouth‘, The Thing About Austen podcast, Episode 45Arthur Ransome, Swallows and Amazons (1930)Popular culture discussion:Adaptations:BBC, Emma (1972) – starring Doran Godwin and John CarsonMiramax, Emma (1996) – starring Gwyneth Paltrow and Jeremy NorthamITV, Emma (1996) – starring Kate Beckinsale and Mark StrongBBC, Emma (2009) – starring Romola Garai and Jonny Lee MillerWorking Title Films, Emma (2020) – starring Anya Taylor-Joy and Johnny FlynnModernisations:Paramount Pictures, Clueless (1995) – starring Alicia Silverstone and Paul RuddYouTube, Pemberley Digital, Emma Approved (2013) – starring Joanna Sotomura and Brent Bailey For a list of music used, see this episode on our website.
In this episode, we read chapters 37 to 41 of Emma. We talk about the parallel narratives, the ball at the Crown, Emma's awareness of Mr Knightley, the section from Mr Knightley's point of view and the tension between Jane and Frank.The character we discuss is Mr Knightley, and in the historical section Ellen talks about poverty and the labouring classes. In the popular culture section, Harriet talks about the 2017 YouTube series The Emma Agenda.Things we mention:General and character discussion:Pod and Prejudice podcastTea with Cassiane YouTube videos about Regency dancingSomerset MaughamHistorical discussion:The Speenhamland systemAnthony Trollope, The Warden (1855)Robert RaikesHannah MorePopular culture discussion:Main version considered:YouTube, Quip Modest Productions, The Emma Agenda (2017) – starring Selis Maria Vargas and Angela Wong CarboneOther referencesYouTube, Pemberley Digital, Emma Approved (2013) – starring Joanna Sotomura and Brent BaileyITV, Emma (1996) – starring Kate Beckinsale and Mark StrongWorking Title Films, Emma (2020) – starring Anya Taylor-Joy and Johnny FlynnCreative commons music used:Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio.Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen.Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major. File originally from Musopen.
In this episode, we read chapters 32 to 36 of Emma. We talk about the civil society of Highbury, why Jane puts up with Mrs Elton, and Emma's dinner party.The character we discuss is Mrs Elton, and Ellen talks about governesses. In the popular culture section, Harriet talks about the 2013 YouTube series Emma Approved .Things we mention:Character discussion:Diana Birchall, In Defense of Mrs Elton (1999) John Mullan [Editor], The Oxford World's Classics Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Emma (2022) Mary Deforest, ‘Mrs. Elton and the Slave Trade‘ Persuasions 9, 1987Lona Manning, ‘What is Austen saying with Mrs. Elton?‘, 9 February 2023John Sutherland, Can Jane Eyre be happy? (2000)Thomas Gray, ‘Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard‘ (1751)Historical discussion:Elizabeth Eastlake, ‘Vanity Fair and Jane Eyre‘, Quarterly Review 84, 1848Anna Jameson, The Diary of an Ennuyée (1826)William Makepeace Thackeray, Vanity Fair (1847)Maria Edgeworth, The Good French Governess (1801)Ellen Jordan, The Women's Movement and Women's Employment in Nineteenth Century Britain (1999)Graph showing percentages of governesses, female milliners and domestic servants in various age groups as shown in the census of 1851.Popular culture discussion:Main version considered:YouTube, Pemberley Digital, Emma Approved (2013) – starring Joanna Sotomura and Brent BaileyOther referencesYouTube, Pemberley Digital, Lizzie Bennet Diaries (2012) – starring Ashley Clements and Daniel Vincent GordhParamount Pictures, Clueless (1995) – starring Alicia Silverstone and Paul Rudd For a list of music used, see this episode on our website.
In this episode, we read chapters 27 to 31 of Emma. We talk about the entwined group of people who visit one another, how so many scenes read differently the second time through, Miss Bates's monologues, Jane and the piano, reactions to the plan of having a ball, and Emma encouraging Harriet to stop thinking about Mr Elton. The character we discuss is Harriet Smith, and Ellen talks about illegitimacy. In the popular culture section, Harriet talks about the 1995 modernisation Clueless.Also, we are now on Instagram, at reading_jane_austen.Things we mention:General discussion:John Mullan, What Matters in Jane Austen?: Twenty Crucial Puzzles Solved (2012)Character discussion:Edith Lank, ‘“The word was blunder”: Who was Harriet Smith's Mother?‘ Persuasions 7, 1985: 14-15Helena Kelly, Jane Austen, the Secret Radical (2016)Historical discussion:Max Weber (1864-1920)Claire Tomalin, Charles Dickens (2011)Christine Kenyon Jones, ‘Ambiguous Cousinship: Mansfield Park and the Mansfield Family‘ Persuasions On-line 31 (1), 2010BBC, Olivia Colman episode of Who Do You Think You Are (2018), Season 15, Episode 2Popular culture discussion:Main version considered:Paramount Pictures, Clueless (1995) – starring Alicia Silverstone and Paul RuddOther 1990s/2000s high school films based on classic literature10 Things I Hate About You (1999), based on The Taming of the ShrewCruel Intentions(1999), based on Les Liaisons dangereusesShe's All That (1999), based on Pygmalion / My Fair LadyO (2001), based on OthelloShe's the Man(2006), based on Twelfth NightEasy A (2010), based on The Scarlet Letter For a list of music used, see this episode on our website.
In this episode, we read chapters 22 to 26 of Emma. We talk about Frank's arrival, the dinner at the Coles, and the way so much looks different in a second reading, The characters we discuss are Mr and Mrs Weston, including a consideration of what we know of Mrs Weston's pregnancy. Ellen talks about social customs, including calling and dinner parties. In the popular culture section, Harriet talks about the 2020 Working Title Films adaptation of Emma.Things we mention:General discussion:Richard Cronin and Dorothy McMillan [Editor], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Emma (2005)Character discussion:Sheila Kaye-Smith and G.B. Stern, Talking of Jane Austen (1943) and More Talk of Jane Austen (1950)Historical discussion:‘Regency Dinner Parties and Etiquette‘, The Jane Austen Centre (2011) Popular culture discussion:Main version considered:Working Title Films, Emma (2020) – starring Anya Taylor-Joy and Johnny FlynnVideos and web pages about costumingYouTube, Bernadette Banner, ‘5 Historical Films That Got the Costumes RIGHT‘ (2020)YouTube, Karolina Żebrowska, ‘Are “Emma.” (2020) Costumes Historically Accurate? aka What Makes Good Period Drama Costumes‘ (2020)‘Emma (2020)‘, Frock Flicks (2020)Filming locations:Firle PlaceWilton HouseCreative commons music used:Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio.Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen.Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major. File originally from Musopen.
In this episode, we are joined by Harriet's partner, Michael, and read chapters 16 to 21 of Emma. We talk about the mystery plots, Emma's fantasies, Emma and Mr Knightley's interactions, and Harriet's encounter with Mr Martin (which had us revisiting the map of Highbury).The character we discuss is Miss Bates, and then Michael talks about army widows and orphans. In the popular culture section, Harriet talks about the 2009 BBC adaptation of Emma.Things we mention:General discussion:John Mullan, What Matters in Jane Austen?: Twenty Crucial Puzzles Solved (2012)Map of Highbury, created by Professor Penny Gay of the University of Sydney, and reproduced with her permission. The map was drawn in the 1980s and published in Penny Gay's work Jane Austen's Emma (Horizon Studies in Literature) Sydney University Press, 1995. More information about it is available in ‘A Hypothetical Map of Highbury‘, Persuasions Online, Volume 36, No. 1, Winter 2015.Character discussion:Elizabeth Gaskell, Cranford (1853)Agatha Christie's books and stories featuring Miss MarpleLucy F. March Phillipps, My life and what shall I do with it? By an old maid (1918)Mary Russell Mitford, Letter to W.W. Ogbourn (April 3, 1815) – read the extract about Jane AustenDorothy L. Sayers, Gaudy Night (1935)Popular culture discussion:Main version considered:BBC, Emma (2009) – starring Romola Garai and Jonny Lee MillerOther versions mentionedBBC, Emma (1972) – starring Doran Godwin and John CarsonMiramax, Emma (1996) – starring Gwyneth Paltrow and Jeremy NorthamITV, Emma (1996) – starring Kate Beckinsale and Mark Strong For a list of music used, see this episode on our website.
In this episode, we read chapters 11 to 15 of Emma. We talk about the introduction of John and Isabella Knightley, how Emma really doesn't understand the social world, the clash between Isabella and Mr Woodhouse about health – and how Emma and Mr Knightley are running interference – and the way in which the Frank/Jane plot is beginning to be introduced before the Harriet/Mr Elton plot is resolved.The character we discuss is Mr Elton, and then Ellen talks about apothecaries. In the popular culture section, Harriet talks about the 1996 ITV telemovie adaptation of Emma.Things we mention:General discussion:Google Map of Emma locationsCharacter discussion:John Mullan, What Matters in Jane Austen?: Twenty Crucial Puzzles Solved (2012)Historical discussion:Irvine Loudon. 1986. Medical Care and the General Practitioner, 1750-1850. (1986)S W F Holloway, ‘The Apothecaries' Act of 1815: A Reinterpretation.' Medical History 10, 1966: 107-29, 221-36Popular culture discussion:Main version considered:ITV, Emma (1996) – starring Kate Beckinsale and Mark StrongOther versions mentionedBBC, Emma (1972) – starring Doran Godwin and John CarsonMiramax, Emma (1996) – starring Gwyneth Paltrow and Jeremy NorthamCreative commons music used:Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio.Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen.Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major. File originally from Musopen.
In this episode, we read chapters 6 to 10 of Emma. We talk about the hints Jane Austen gives us about Emma's blunders, Emma's manipulation of Harriet after Mr Martin's proposal, the argument between Emma and Mr Knightley, Harriet's riddle book, Emma's and Mr Elton's respective views of his place in the social hierarchy, and Emma's lack of need to get married. (There was also a lengthy discussion of ‘Kitty, a fair but frozen maid', which we ended up editing out, and just pointing to Lona Manning's article and blog posts on the subject.) We discuss the Martin family (specifically, Mr Martin and his mother), and in the historical section Ellen talks about vicars and parish business. Harriet talks about the 1996 Miramax film adaptation of Emma. For a list of references, see this episode on our website.
In this episode, we read the first five chapters of Emma. We give a brief publishing history, and talk about how much we learn about the occupants of Highbury, the introduction of the relationship between Emma and Mr Knightley, Emma's manipulation of Harriet, and Emma's personality (and how our views of her are changing on this readthrough).The character we discuss is Mr Woodhouse, and in the historical section Ellen talks about boarding schools. Harriet gives an overview of all of the popular culture versions of Emma, and explains that due to the number of adaptations there have been, she will talk about one version each episode, rather than trying to cover all of them. For this episode, she talks about the 1972 BBC adaptation. For a list of references, see this episode on our website.
In this episode, we finish up reading Mansfield Park, with Chapters 46 to 48. We talk about contrasts within the book, the attitude to Maria and Henry, Edmund and Fanny's views of Mary, Sir Thomas's reflections in the final chapter, the wrapping up of the other characters and how we are told about Edmund falling in love with Fanny.We discuss Fanny Price, then Ellen talks about principle and education, and Harriet looks at how adaptations and modernisations treat these chapters. Things we mention: General and character discussion:Margaret Drabble, “Introduction”, Mansfield Park (1996 – Signet Classics edition)Anthony Powell, Casanova's Chinese Restaurant [volume 5 of A Dance to the Music of Time] (1960)William Shakespeare, Henry IV Parts 1 and 2Sheila Kaye-Smith and G.B. Stern, Talking of Jane Austen (1943) and More Talk of Jane Austen (1950)Tony Tanner, various works including “Introduction”, Mansfield Park (1966 – Penguin Books edition)Marvin Mudrick, Jane Austen; irony as defense and discovery (1952)Mary Brunton, Self-Control (1810)Linda V Troost and Sayre N Greenfield, “A History of the Fanny Wars”, Persuasions 36 (1), 2014, pp. 15–33.D W Harding, ‘Regulated Hatred: An aspect of the work of Jane Austen', Scrutiny, 8 (4), 1940, pp. 346–362.C S Lewis, ‘A Note on Jane Austen', Essays in Criticism, IV (4), October 1954, pp. 359–371.Lionel Trilling, “Mansfield Park“, Partisan Review 21 (September-October 1954): 492-511. Also published in Encounter, September 1954: 9-19.Kingsley Amis, “What Became of Jane Austen?”, The Spectator, 4 October 1957 – republished in What Became of Jane Austen? And Other Questions (1970)Historical discussion:Maria Edgeworth, Moral Tales: Angelina; Or L'amie Inconnue. the Good French Governess. Mademoiselle Panache. the Knapsack (1801)Popular culture discussion:Adaptations:BBC, Mansfield Park (1983) – starring Sylvestra Le Touzel and Nicholas Farrell (6 episodes)Miramax, Mansfield Park (1999) – starring Frances O'Connor and Jonny Lee MillerITV, Mansfield Park (2007) – starring Billie Piper and Blake RitsonModernisations:YouTube, Foot in the Door Theatre, From Mansfield With Love (2014-2015)D.E. Stevenson, Celia's House (1943)For a list of music used, see this episode on our website.
In this bonus mini-episode, Harriet has a discussion with three of the co-creators of webseries Rational Creatures. This series, based on Persuasion, started in 2019, but then had to go on a long and unexpected hiatus due to the global pandemic.Just as Jane Austen used her books to shed light on social issues of her time, RATIONAL CREATURES reflects the world around us now by including complex female characters, happy queer stories, mental and chronic illness, and a bisexual Latina lead. (https://rationalseries.wixsite.com/site/about) The series paused after Episode 5, on 15 October 2019, and resumed on 20 September 2022. Shortly before this, Harriet was invited to have a conversation with three of the co-creators: Jessamyn Leigh, Anya Steiner and Hazel Jeffs.You can check out Rational Creatures at:Official websiteYouTubeFacebookTwitterInstagram
In this episode, we read Chapters 40 to 45 of Mansfield Park. We talk about the plot of a girl brought up in privileged circumstances returning to her family, Mary's letters and how Fanny responds to them, the success of Henry's visit, Edmund's letter to Fanny, and Tom's illness.We discuss the Price family (with a slight digression into the idea of disposition and principle), then Ellen talks about servants and Harriet looks at how adaptations and modernisations treat these chapters. Things we mention: General and character discussion:John Wiltshire [Editor], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Mansfield Park (2005)Charlotte M. Yonge, The Pillars of the House (1873)Historical discussion:Claire Tomalin, Charles Dickens: A Life (2011)Popular culture discussion:Adaptations:BBC, Mansfield Park (1983) – starring Sylvestra Le Touzel and Nicholas Farrell (6 episodes)Miramax, Mansfield Park (1999) – starring Frances O'Connor and Jonny Lee MillerITV, Mansfield Park (2007) – starring Billie Piper and Blake RitsonModernisations:YouTube, Foot in the Door Theatre, From Mansfield With Love (2014-2015)Other references:Susan Coolidge, What Katy Did Next (1886)Creative commons music used:Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio.Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen.Extract from Christoph Willibald Gluck, Orfeo ed Euridice. File from IMSLP.Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major. File originally from Musopen.
In this episode, we read Chapters 35 to 39 of Mansfield Park. We talk about how Edmund and Mary dismiss Fanny's concerns about Henry, Sir Thomas's decision to send Fanny back to Portsmouth, Fanny and William's journey, the comedy of the arrival in Portsmouth, Fanny's reaction to the house, and the very realistic and grounded nature of the Portsmouth scenes .We discuss Edmund Bertram, then Harriet's partner Michael talks about the Marines. Harriet looks at how adaptations and modernisations treat these chapters, and then Ellen talks about a later nineteenth century novel influenced by Mansfield Park. Things we mention: General and character discussion:John Wiltshire [Editor], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Mansfield Park (2005)Sheila Kaye-Smith and G.B. Stern, Talking of Jane Austen (1943)Historical discussion:Brian Southam, Jane Austen and the Navy (2003)Popular culture discussion:Adaptations:BBC, Mansfield Park (1983) – starring Sylvestra Le Touzel and Nicholas Farrell (6 episodes)Miramax, Mansfield Park (1999) – starring Frances O'Connor and Jonny Lee MillerITV, Mansfield Park (2007) – starring Billie Piper and Blake RitsonModernisations:YouTube, Foot in the Door Theatre, From Mansfield With Love (2014-2015)Charlotte M. Yonge, Heartsease (1854)And an article about the connection with Mansfield Park:June Sturrock, “Money, morals, and Mansfield Park: the West Indies revisited“, Persuasions: The Jane Austen Journal, vol. 28, annual 2006, pp. 176+. For a list of music used, and a map of Mansfield Park locations, see this episode on our website.
In this episode, we read Chapters 31 to 34 of Mansfield Park. We talk about Fanny's initial failure to realise she has received a true proposal, the amount of pressure placed on her to accept, the picture everyone has of little, modest Fanny, and the difference between Sir Thomas and Fanny's views of marriage. We discuss Henry Crawford, then Ellen talks about ordination, and Harriet looks at how adaptations and modernisations treat these chapters, particularly the scene between Fanny and Sir Thomas. Things we mention: General and character discussion:Barbara Pym, Excellent Women (1952)The Daily Knightley (2021) [podcast]Historical discussion:Irene Collins, Jane Austen and the Clergy (2002)The 1559 Book of Common PrayerGeorgina Battiscombe, John Keble: A Study in Limitations (1963)Popular culture discussion:Adaptations:BBC, Mansfield Park (1983) – starring Sylvestra Le Touzel and Nicholas Farrell (6 episodes)Miramax, Mansfield Park (1999) – starring Frances O'Connor and Jonny Lee MillerITV, Mansfield Park (2007) – starring Billie Piper and Blake RitsonModernisations:YouTube, Foot in the Door Theatre, From Mansfield With Love (2014-2015)Comment on previous episodeThe Thing About Austen [podcast]Creative commons music used:Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio.Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen.Extract from Christoph Willibald Gluck, Orfeo ed Euridice. File from IMSLP.Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major. File originally from Musopen.
This is an apology for the ongoing non-appearance of Episode 8. It is fully recorded (as is Episode 9), but I haven't finished the editing, as I have completely overcommitted myself until mid-July. I am doing a presentation for the Jane Austen Society of Australia conference, and also for Virtual JaneCon, plus I am on the judging panel for the Educational Publishing Awards Australia. So, to quote Prince Humperdink in The Princess Bride - I'm swamped!But I'm really keen to finish editing the episode, as it's the one in which we talk about Henry Crawford. So I will get to it - I promise!
In this episode, we read Chapters 26 to 30 of Mansfield Park. We talk about Fanny’s preparations for the ball, the amber cross, her emotion reactions after Edmund gives her the chain, her post-ball meeting with Mary, and the scene where Henry tells Mary he plans to marry Fanny. We discuss Lady Bertram, then Ellen talks ... Read more Mansfield Park: Episode 7, Chapters 26-30 The post Mansfield Park: Episode 7, Chapters 26-30 first appeared on Reading Jane Austen.
In this episode, we read Chapters 26 to 30 of Mansfield Park. We talk about Fanny's preparations for the ball, the amber cross, her emotion reactions after Edmund gives her the chain, her post-ball meeting with Mary, and the scene where Henry tells Mary he plans to marry Fanny.We discuss Lady Bertram, then Ellen talks about what is meant by being ‘out', and Harriet follows this with some information about balls and dancing. Harriet also talks about how adaptations and modernisations treat these chapters. Things we mention: General and character discussion:John Wiltshire [Editor], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Mansfield Park (2005)Helena Kelly, Jane Austen, the Secret Radical (2016) [sees the amber cross and chain as a metaphor for slavery and Christianity]Jillian Heydt-Stevenson, Jane Austen's Unbecoming Conjunctions: Subversive Laughter, Embodied History (2005) [sees the amber cross, chain and necklace as a sexual metaphor]The topaz crosses that belonged to Jane and Cassandra Austen:Credit: Jane Austen's House Museum, photography by Peter SmithAdrian Dickens, Jewels of the Regency (2022 – YouTube video of presentation to the Jane Austen Society of Australia)Sheila Kaye-Smith and G.B. Stern, Talking of Jane Austen (1943) The Daily Knightley (2021) [podcast]John Sutherland, Can Jane Eyre be happy?(2000)William Hogarth, The Painter and his Pug (1745)The Regency novels of Georgette Heyer (1902-1974)Historical discussion:Tea with Cassiane YouTube videos about Regency dancing5 Things That Jane Austen Films Always Get Wrong About the Dancing (2020)A Regency Dancer Analyzes Jane Austen's Ballroom Scenes (2021)A Regency Dancer Reads Jane Austen Part 2 (Mansfield Park, Sense and Sensibility, and The Watsons) (2022)Popular culture discussion:Adaptations:BBC, Mansfield Park (1983) – starring Sylvestra Le Touzel and Nicholas Farrell (6 episodes)Miramax, Mansfield Park (1999) – starring Frances O'Connor and Jonny Lee MillerITV, Mansfield Park (2007) – starring Billie Piper and Blake RitsonModernisations:YouTube, Foot in the Door Theatre, From Mansfield With Love (2014-2015) For a list of music used, see this episode on our website.
In this episode, we read Chapters 22 to 25 of Mansfield Park. We talk about the friendship between Fanny and Mary, the tension between Mary and Edmund, Henry’s plan to make Fanny fall in love with him (and Mary’s reaction), William’s view of Fanny, the tour de force of Chapter 25 (the Speculation chapter), and Ellen’s ... Read more Mansfield Park: Episode 6, Chapters 22-25 The post Mansfield Park: Episode 6, Chapters 22-25 first appeared on Reading Jane Austen.
In this episode, we read Chapters 22 to 25 of Mansfield Park. We talk about the friendship between Fanny and Mary, the tension between Mary and Edmund, Henry's plan to make Fanny fall in love with him (and Mary's reaction), William's view of Fanny, the tour de force of Chapter 25 (the Speculation chapter), and Ellen's articulation of why she cares about what happens to Fanny.We discuss Dr and Mrs Grant, then Harriet's partner Michael talks about the navy, with a focus on the process of passing from midshipman to lieutenant. Harriet talks about how adaptations and modernisations treat these chapters.Things we mention: General and character discussion:John Wiltshire [Editor], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Mansfield Park (2005)Pam Perkins, “A Subdued Gaiety: The Comedy of Mansfield Park“, Nineteenth-Century Literature, Vol. 48, No. 1 (Jun., 1993).Sheila Kaye-Smith and G.B. Stern, Talking of Jane Austen (1943) Barbara Pym, Excellent Women (1952) Mary Grant Bruce, Back to Billabong (1921) [NB Goodreads has put up a quite misleading cover illustration.]Charlotte Brontë, Jane Eyre (1847)Charles Dickens, Oliver Twist (1838)Charles Dickens, David Copperfield (1850) Kate Douglas Wiggin, Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm (1903) L.M. Montgomery, Anne of Green Gables (1908)Eleanor H. Porter, Pollyanna (1913)J.K. Rowling, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (1997)Frances Burney (Burneyesque heroine)Elizabeth Goudge, Henrietta's House (1942)Historical discussion:Brian Southam, Jane Austen and the Navy (2003) Samantha Cavell, Playing at command: midshipmen and quarterdeck boys in the Royal Navy, 1793-1815 (2006) [Master's thesis] and A Social History of Midshipmen and Quarterdeck Boys in the Royal Navy, 1761-1831 (2010) [Ph.D. thesis] For a list of other references and music used, see this episode on our website.
In this episode, we read Chapters 17 to 21 of Mansfield Park. We talk about Fanny’s moral trajectory during the theatricals, Mary’s casual acceptance of Henry’s behaviour with Maria, the cliffhanger ending of Volume 1 in the first edition, and Fanny’s question to Sir Thomas about the slave trade (with Harriet’s theory as to why she ... Read more Mansfield Park: Episode 5, Chapters 17-21 The post Mansfield Park: Episode 5, Chapters 17-21 first appeared on Reading Jane Austen.
In this episode, we read Chapters 17 to 21 of Mansfield Park. We talk about Fanny's moral trajectory during the theatricals, Mary's casual acceptance of Henry's behaviour with Maria, the cliffhanger ending of Volume 1 in the first edition, and Fanny's question to Sir Thomas about the slave trade (with Harriet's theory as to why she asked it).We talk about Sir Thomas, first considering how he is presented in the text, and then how we reconcile this with the fact that his estate in Antigua is worked by enslaved people. Ellen looks at the clergy, including the presentation of livings, pluralism and absenteeism, and the career path for the clergy. Harriet talks about the popular culture versions.Things we mention: General and character discussion:John Wiltshire [Editor], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Mansfield Park (2005)Sheila Kaye-Smith and G.B. Stern, Talking of Jane Austen (1943) Edward Said, Culture and Imperialism (1993)Lona Manning, In Defense of Sir Thomas (2021)Octavia Cox, Which is the worst marriage in Jane Austen's novels? (2021 – YouTube video)HBO, The Sopranos (1999-2007 – television series)Historical discussion:Susannah Fullerton, Susannah Fullerton's Best Books about Jane Austen (2021 – YouTube video)Irene Collins, Jane Austen and the Clergy (2002)Popular culture discussion:Adaptations:BBC, Mansfield Park (1983) – starring Sylvestra Le Touzel and Nicholas Farrell (6 episodes)Miramax, Mansfield Park (1999) – starring Frances O'Connor and Jonny Lee MillerITV, Mansfield Park (2007) – starring Billie Piper and Blake RitsonModernisations:YouTube, Foot in the Door Theatre, From Mansfield With Love (2014-2015)Creative commons music used:Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio.Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen.Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata&
In this episode, we read Chapters 12 to 16 of Mansfield Park. We talk about why Fanny refuses to act, why Edmund agrees to join in, the sheer amount of comedy in the scenes of the theatricals, and the Cinderella aspect of the plot. We talk about Tom Bertram, and then Ellen looks at theatre in ... Read more Mansfield Park: Episode 4, Chapters 12-16 The post Mansfield Park: Episode 4, Chapters 12-16 first appeared on Reading Jane Austen.
In this episode, we read Chapters 12 to 16 of Mansfield Park. We talk about why Fanny refuses to act, why Edmund agrees to join in, the sheer amount of comedy in the scenes of the theatricals, and the Cinderella aspect of the plot.We talk about Tom Bertram, and then Ellen looks at theatre in the Regency period, and why Fanny and Edmund disapprove of the the theatricals. Harriet talks about the popular culture versions, including some modernisations and a variation that she hasn't looked at before.Things we mention: General and character discussion:John Wiltshire [Editor], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Mansfield Park (2005)Lionel Trilling, “Mansfield Park“, Partisan Review 21 (September-October 1954): 492-511. Also published in Encounter, September 1954: 9-19.Sheila Kaye-Smith and G.B. Stern, Talking of Jane Austen (1943) Historical discussion:Chuck Hudson, ‘Theatre in Georgian England' (2015)Elizabeth Inchbald, Lovers's Vows [full text on Project Gutenberg] (1798)Deirdre Le Faye [Editor], Jane Austen's Letters (1995)Lionel Trilling, “Mansfield Park“, Partisan Review 21 (September-October 1954): 492-511. Also published in Encounter, September 1954: 9-19.Claudia L. Johnson and Clara Tuite, 30 Great Myths about Jane Austen (2020)Popular culture discussion:Adaptations:BBC, Mansfield Park (1983) – starring Sylvestra Le Touzel and Nicholas Farrell (6 episodes)Miramax, Mansfield Park (1999) – starring Frances O'Connor and Jonny Lee MillerITV, Mansfield Park (2007) – starring Billie Piper and Blake RitsonModernisations:Westerly Films, Allagash Films, Metropolitan (1990) – starring Carolyn Farina and Edward ClementsYouTube, Foot in the Door Theatre, From Mansfield With Love (2014-2015)D.E. Stevenson, Celia's House (1943)John Mullan, Live at the Hay Festival (2014) [YouTube] – referred to in the discussion of Celia's HouseVariations:Lona Manning, A Contrary Wind(2017), A Marriage of Attachment (2018) and A Different Kind of Woman (2020) For a list of music used, see this episode on our website.
In this episode, we read Chapters 8 to 11 of Mansfield Park. We revisit the issue of how Jane Austen opposes Fanny and Mary, and look at the flirting techniques of Mary and Henry, Fanny’s expectations of Edmund, whether there is symbolism in the scene at the ha-ha, and Mary’s criticism of Dr Grant. The characters ... Read more Mansfield Park: Episode 3, Chapters 8-11 The post Mansfield Park: Episode 3, Chapters 8-11 first appeared on Reading Jane Austen.
In this episode, we read Chapters 8 to 11 of Mansfield Park. We revisit the issue of how Jane Austen opposes Fanny and Mary, and look at the flirting techniques of Mary and Henry, Fanny's expectations of Edmund, whether there is symbolism in the scene at the ha-ha, and Mary's criticism of Dr Grant.The characters we talk about are Maria and Julia, and then Ellen looks at the idea of improvement of estates – and what a ha-ha is. Harriet's discussion of the popular culture versions is a bit shorter than usual, owing to the fact that two of the adaptations completely omit the Sotherton section. For a list of references and other links, plus photographs of ha-has, see this episode on our website.
In this episode, we read the Chapters 4 to 7 of Mansfield Park. We talk about the character-revealing scenes, how the presentation of Fanny may make some readers dislike her, why Maria became engaged to Mr Rushworth, and Henry Crawford’s behaviour. We discuss the character of Mary Crawford – who is perhaps almost as divisive as ... Read more Mansfield Park: Episode 2, Chapters 4-7 The post Mansfield Park: Episode 2, Chapters 4-7 first appeared on Reading Jane Austen.
In this episode, we read Chapters 4 to 7 of Mansfield Park. We talk about the character-revealing scenes, how the presentation of Fanny may make some readers dislike her, why Maria became engaged to Mr Rushworth, and Henry Crawford's behaviour.We discuss the character of Mary Crawford – who is perhaps almost as divisive as Fanny Price – and then Ellen talks about baronets, Members of Parliament, and the idea of ‘interest'. Harriet considers how the three adaptations, and two of the modernisations, present these chapters. Things we mention: General and character discussion:John Wiltshire [Editor], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Mansfield Park (2005)Lionel Trilling, “Mansfield Park“, Partisan Review 21 (September-October 1954): 492-511. Also published in Encounter, September 1954: 9-19.Sheila Kaye-Smith and G.B. Stern, Talking of Jane Austen (1943) and More Talk of Jane Austen (1950)John Mullan, Live at the Hay Festival (2014) [YouTube]Kingsley Amis, “What Became of Jane Austen?”, The Spectator, 4 October 1957 – republished in What Became of Jane Austen? And Other Questions (1970)The Daily Knightley (2021) [podcast] Popular culture discussion:Adaptations:BBC, Mansfield Park (1983) – starring Sylvestra Le Touzel and Nicholas Farrell (6 episodes)Miramax, Mansfield Park (1999) – starring Frances O'Connor and Jonny Lee MillerITV, Mansfield Park (2007) – starring Billie Piper and Blake RitsonModernisations:YouTube, Foot in the Door Theatre, From Mansfield With Love (2014-2015)D.E. Stevenson, Celia's House (1943)Creative commons music used: Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio.Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen. Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major. File originally from Musopen.
This is a bit of an in-between episode. About two months ago, when we were getting ready to record Episode 2, Ellen came down with a bad virus – not COVID, but recovery has been a slow process. We're just about to start recording again, but it means there's going to be more of a ... Read more Mansfield Park: Episode 1.5 – Extras from episode 1 The post Mansfield Park: Episode 1.5 – Extras from episode 1 first appeared on Reading Jane Austen.
This is a bit of an in-between episode. About two months ago, when we were getting ready to record Episode 2, Ellen came down with a bad virus – not COVID, but recovery has been a slow process. We're just about to start recording again, but it means there's going to be more of a gap before Episode 2, and probably between the other episodes as well, since we don't have any edited and ready to go in advance. To fill in the space before Episode 2, we've put together some of the bits we had to edit out of Episode 1. It's a bit disjointed, but we hope you enjoy it. Creative commons music used: Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio.Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen.Extract from Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano Sonata No. 28 in A major. File originally from Musopen.
In this episode, we read the first three chapters of Mansfield Park. We give a brief publishing history, and talk about how the opening chapters really prepare the way for the rest of the book, with all of the characters and relationships being set up, how the three Miss Wards come from a not dissimilar background ... Read more Mansfield Park: Episode 1, Chapters 1-3 The post Mansfield Park: Episode 1, Chapters 1-3 first appeared on Reading Jane Austen.
In this episode, we read the first three chapters of Mansfield Park. We give a brief publishing history, and talk about how the opening chapters really prepare the way for the rest of the book, with all of the characters and relationships being set up, how the three Miss Wards come from a not dissimilar background from Pride and Prejudice's Miss Gardiners (Mrs Bennet and Mrs Phillips), and how the novel's themes of education and principle are introduced. The character we talk about is Mrs Norris.In a longer than usual historical segment, Ellen talks about the historical background to Sir Thomas's estate in Antigua, and the extent to which all members of the gentry were complicit in slavery. We follow this up with a conversation on how discussions of slavery are now part of the discourse on Mansfield Park. Harriet identifies four different approaches:People who can't read the book because of the connection with slaveryPeople who feel that perhaps the estate in Antigua did not use enslaved peoplePeople who feel that the novel is about slavery – and, specifically, that it is an abolitionist novelPeople who feel that slavery is part of the context of the novel – one of the aspects of Janen Austen's society that today we find abhorrent – but it is not a focus of the novel. We need to be open to discussing the novel in a post-colonial light, but that does not mean the novel is about slavery. We would like to thank Damianne Scott, who runs the Facebook page Black Girl Loves Jane, for reviewing the historical segment for us, and providing feedback.To finish the episode, Harriet gives an overview of various popular culture versions of Mansfield Park.For a list of references and other links, see this episode on our website.
In this episode, we read the final chapters of Sense and Sensibility. We talk about Elinor being the ‘moral spokesperson’ for the book, why Marianne marries Colonel Brandon, how Edward is less dashing than both Willoughby and Brandon, the social and financial gap between Elinor and Marianne after their marriages, and Lucy’s marriage to Robert. ... Read more Sense and Sensibility: Episode 10, Chapters 47-50
In this episode, we read the final chapters of Sense and Sensibility. We talk about Elinor being the ‘moral spokesperson' for the book, why Marianne marries Colonel Brandon, how Edward is less dashing than both Willoughby and Brandon, the social and financial gap between Elinor and Marianne after their marriages, and Lucy's marriage to Robert. We also revisit the sense vs sensibility concept, and how the novel is both flawed and wonderful. We discuss the character of Elinor, then Ellen talks about art, music and writing, and Harriet takes a final look at the popular culture versions. Things we mention:References: Marjorie Theobauld, Knowing Women: Origins of Women's Education in Nineteenth-Century Australia (1996) Claire Tomalin, Jane Austen: A Life (1997)Robert Chapman [Editor], Jane Austen's Letters to her Sister Cassandra and Others (1969)Eighteenth- and nineteenth-century women writers:Married/de factoMary Brunton (1778–1818): Self-Control (1810)Fanny Burney (1752–1840): Cecilia (1782 – written before she was married), Camilla (1796 – written after she was married) Anna Barbauld (1743–1825)Martha Sherwood (1775–1851): The Fairchild Family (1818)Mary Shelley (1797–1851)Margaret Gatty (1809–1873)Elizabeth Gaskell (1810–1865)Anna Lefroy (1793–1872)George Eliot (1793–1872) SingleCharlotte Brontë (1816–1855) Emily Brontë (1818–1848) Anne Brontë (1820–1849) Maria Edgeworth (1768–1849): Belinda (1801)Hannah More (1745–1833): Coelebs in Search of a Wife (1808) Susan Ferrier (1782–1854) Read more: Adaptations of the book, Modernisations of the book, Creative Commons music used.
In this episode, we read Chapters 42 to 46 of Sense and Sensibility. We talk about how Marianne’s illness is presented (including the un-dramatic way in which she gets sick, and the lack of emotional response), what Colonel Brandon could be doing all day, how Mrs Dashwood is pushing Colonel Brandon and Marianne together, and ... Read more Sense and Sensibility: Episode 9, Chapters 42-46
In this episode, we read Chapters 42 to 46 of Sense and Sensibility. We talk about how Marianne's illness is presented (including the un-dramatic way in which she gets sick, and the lack of emotional response), what Colonel Brandon could be doing all day, how Mrs Dashwood is pushing Colonel Brandon and Marianne together, and Jane Austen's use of grotesques.We discuss Willoughby (with a digression onto Miss Grey), and Ellen talks about medical practitioners in the early nineteenth century. Harriet reviews how the popular culture versions deal with some of the key events in these chapters: how Marianne gets sick, Willoughby's visit, and the development of a relationship between Marianne and Colonel Brandon. Things we mention: References: Edward Copeland [Editor], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Sense and Sensibility (2006)Helena Kelly, Jane Austen, the Secret Radical (2016) Ann Radcliffe, The Mysteries of Udolpho(1794)Anthony Trollope, Can you forgive her?(1865)Walt Disney Pictures, Beauty and the Beast(1991) Adaptations of the book: BBC, Sense and Sensibility (1971) – starring Joanna David and Ciaran Madden (4 episodes)BBC, Sense and Sensibility (1981) – starring Irene Richard and Tracey Childs (7 episodes)Columbia Pictures, Sense and Sensibility (1995) – starring Emma Thompson and Kate WinsletBBC, Sense and Sensibility (2008) – starring Hattie Morahan and Charity Wakefield (3 episodes) Modernisations of the book: Sri Surya Films, Kandukondain Kandukondain (2000) – starring Tabu and Aishwarya RaiMWM Studios, From Prada to Nada (2011) – starring Camilla Belle and Alexa PenaVegaYouTube, Elinor and Marianne Take Barton (2014) – starring Abi Davies and Bonita Trigg Creative commons music used: Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio. Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen.
In this episode, we read Chapters 37 to 41 of Sense and Sensibility (which was where Volume 3 started in the original publication). We talk about how the news of Edward and Lucy is spread, the picture we get of Lucy and Anne’s relationship, the resurgence of the ‘cautionary tale’, and how this is the ... Read more Sense and Sensibility: Episode 8, Chapters 37-41
In this episode, we read Chapters 37 to 41 of Sense and Sensibility (which was where Volume 3 started in the original publication). We talk about how the news of Edward and Lucy is spread, the picture we get of Lucy and Anne's relationship, the resurgence of the ‘cautionary tale', and how this is the second time Colonel Brandon asks Elinor to deliver a message for him.We discuss the character of Edward, including our disagreement with Helena Kelly's view in Jane Austen: the Secret Radical (and see also our extended argument against her claim that there is symbolic meaning behind Edward cutting up a scissors sheath). Ellen talks about the clergy in Jane Austen's day, and Harriet reviews the popular culture versions, particularly looking at how the adaptations treat the scene between Edward and Elinor, and what the modernisations do with the Edward-Lucy-Elinor plot. Things we mention:References:Edward Copeland [Editor], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Sense and Sensibility (2006)Robert Rodi, Bitch In a Bonnet: Reclaiming Jane Austen From the Stiffs, the Snobs, the Simps and the Saps (2011) Helena Kelly, Jane Austen, the Secret Radical (2016) See also our argument against her claims of symbolic meaning behind Edward Ferrars cutting up a scissors sheathLona Manning, ‘Jane Austen: the Secret Radical by Helena Kelly, a review in three parts' (2017) Adaptations of the book: BBC, Sense and Sensibility (1971) – starring Joanna David and Ciaran Madden (4 episodes)BBC, Sense and Sensibility (1981) – starring Irene Richard and Tracey Childs (7 episodes)Columbia Pictures, Sense and Sensibility (1995) – starring Emma Thompson and Kate WinsletBBC, Sense and Sensibility (2008) – starring Hattie Morahan and Charity Wakefield (3 episodes) Modernisations of the book: Sri Surya Films, Kandukondain Kandukondain (2000) – starring Tabu and Aishwarya RaiMWM Studios, From Prada to Nada (2011) – starring Camilla Belle and Alexa PenaVegaSilver Peak Productions, Scents and Sensibility (2011) – starring Ashley Williams and Marla SokoloffJoanna Trollope, Sense & Sensibility (The Austen Project #1) (2013)YouTube, Elinor and Marianne Take Barton (2014) – starring Abi Davies and Bonita TriggRead more ...
In this episode, we read Chapters 32 to 36 of Sense and Sensibility. We talk about how this is a transitional section, and yet contains some of the funniest scenes in the book. We consider the different styles of the intertwined plots (the ‘Marianne plot’, the ‘Elinor plot’ and the ‘moral story’), talk about the ... Read more Sense and Sensibility: Episode 7, Chapters 32-36
In this episode, we read Chapters 32 to 36 of Sense and Sensibility. We talk about how this is a transitional section, and yet contains some of the funniest scenes in the book. We consider the different styles of the intertwined plots (the ‘Marianne plot', the ‘Elinor plot' and the ‘moral story'), talk about the comic scenes with Robert Ferrars and with John Dashwood, and the emotional – but also funny – scene with Edward. We also talk about primogeniture and family obligations.We discuss Mrs Dashwood, and Ellen talks about the London locations in the book (see also this map Harriet has put together). Harriet reviews how the popular culture versions deal with these chapters. Map of locations:Google map of the places mentioned in Sense and Sensibility, including approximate locations of the houses. Zoom in to see the London locations.Things we mention:References:Edward Copeland [Editor], The Cambridge Edition of the Works of Jane Austen: Sense and Sensibility (2006)Sheila Kaye-Smith and G.B. Stern, Talking of Jane Austen (1943) and More Talk of Jane Austen (1950) Elaine and LancelotWalter Scott, The Bride of Lammermoor (1819)Alexander Pope, ‘Elegy to the Memory of an Unfortunate Lady‘ (1717)William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet, Much Ado About Nothing and Twelfth NightMaria Edgeworth, Moral Tales (1801) Helena Kelly, Jane Austen, the Secret Radical (2016) Film and television adaptations of the book:BBC, Sense and Sensibility (1971) – starring Joanna David and Ciaran Madden (4 episodes)BBC, Sense and Sensibility (1981) – starring Irene Richard and Tracey Childs (7 episodes)Columbia Pictures, Sense and Sensibility (1995) – starring Emma Thompson and Kate WinsletBBC, Sense and Sensibility (2008) – starring Hattie Morahan and Charity Wakefield (3 episodes) Modernisations of the book: Sri Surya Films, Kandukondain Kandukondain (2000) – starring Tabu and Aishwarya RaiMWM Studios, From Prada to Nada (2011) – starring Camilla Belle and Alexa PenaVegaJoanna Trollope, Sense & Sensibility (The Austen Project #1) (2013) Creative commons music used: Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio. Extract fr
In this episode, we read Chapters 26 to 31 of Sense and Sensibility. We talk about how unsatisfying Ellen found several of these chapters, the role of gossip, the similarity between Elinor’s and Marianne’s situations, the importance of reputation, and whether the turnaround in our perception of Mrs Jennings was planned for by Jane Austen. ... Read more Sense and Sensibility: Episode 6, Chapters 26-31
In this episode, we read Chapters 26 to 31 of Sense and Sensibility. We talk about how unsatisfying Ellen found several of these chapters, the role of gossip, the similarity between Elinor's and Marianne's situations, the importance of reputation, and whether the turnaround in our perception of Mrs Jennings was planned for by Jane Austen. We discuss the character of Marianne, then Harriet's partner, Michael, talks about duelling in Regency England. Harriet talks about how the adaptations present these sections, and how the modernisations update the Willoughby-Colonel Brandon-Marianne stories. Things we mention: References: Claire Tomalin, Jane Austen: A Life (1997) Dorothy L. Sayers, Gaudy Night (1935) – it is in this book that Lord Peter Wimsey comments on duelling with pistols rather than swords The Regency novels of Georgette Heyer (1902-1974) Adaptations of the book: BBC, Sense and Sensibility (1971) – starring Joanna David and Ciaran Madden (4 episodes)BBC, Sense and Sensibility (1981) – starring Irene Richard and Tracey Childs (7 episodes)Columbia Pictures, Sense and Sensibility (1995) – starring Emma Thompson and Kate WinsletBBC, Sense and Sensibility (2008) – starring Hattie Morahan and Charity Wakefield (3 episodes) Modernisations of the book: Sri Surya Films, Kandukondain Kandukondain (2000) – starring Tabu and Aishwarya RaiMGM, Material Girls (2006) – starring Hilary Duff and Haylie DuffMWM Studios, From Prada to Nada (2011) – starring Camilla Belle and Alexa PenaVegaSilver Peak Productions, Scents and Sensibility (2011) – starring Ashley Williams and Marla SokoloffJoanna Trollope, Sense & Sensibility (The Austen Project #1) (2013)YouTube, Elinor and Marianne Take Barton (2014) – starring Abi Davies and Bonita Trigg Creative commons music used: Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 12 in F Major, ii. Adagio. Extract from Joseph Haydn, Piano Sonata No. 38. Performance by Ivan Ilić, recorded in Manchester in December, 2006. File originally from IMSLP.Extract from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Sonata No. 13 in B-Flat Major, iii. Allegretto Grazioso. File originally from Musopen.Extract from George Frideric Handel, Suite I, No. 2 in F Major, ii. Allegro. File originally from Musopen. Extract from
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