UTOKing with Gregg

In this episode, Gregg is joined again by Professor John Vervaeke, and the two share both individual updates and upcoming shared projects. John recently published his book, with Christopher Mastropietro, on Awakening From the Meaning Crisis, Part I, and he and Gregg discuss that and new ways to think about meaning in life based on the work they are doing. John and Gregg also briefly discuss Gregg's new book, UTOK: The Unified Theory of Knowledge, and they share some of their joint work on consciousness and the upcoming UTOK Conference on Consciousness, which will be online April 25-26, 2025.  - - - ℹ️ Find out more about John Vervaeke ℹ️ - - - Homepage: https://johnvervaeke.com/   - - - ℹ️ Find out more about Gregg Henriques ℹ️ - - - Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx   - - -

In this episode, Layman returns to the show for the seventh time to discuss his recently published book, Gurdjieff for a Time Between Worlds. In it, Layman recounts Gurdjieff's fascinating life and approach to spirituality and why the book was a “hyperpersonal” endeavor that was appropriate for the metamodern age. Layman also clarifies some common misconceptions, explains why he has a unique take on Gurdjieff and bridges Gurdjieff's perspective on the body, emotions, and the mind with UTOK's conception of the three layers of mindedness (https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/theory-of-knowledge/202401/the-mind-versus-layers-of-mindedness).   Gurdjieff for a Time Between Worlds: https://www.skymeadowinstitute.org/press   - - - ℹ️ Find out more about Layman Pascal ℹ️ - - - Substack: https://laymanpascal.substack.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/liquidsyntax The Integral Stage on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaA4zkLRnR3lGm8Y7c5Tvdw   - - - ℹ️ Find out more about Gregg Henriques ℹ️ - - - Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx   - - -

In this episode, the cognitive neuroscientist and author of The Romance of Reality (see here for Gregg's review), Bobby Azarian joins the program to discuss his “unifying theory of reality” and vision for bridging science and religion. Bobby explains how he interprets the universe through a universal learning algorithm and shares what this means for how we make sense of ourselves and derive meaning from the world. The two review Bobby's book, draw connections between his views and UTOK and examine what is next in sharing his vision with the world.   ℹ️ - - - Find out more about Bobby Azarian - - - ℹ️ Book: The Romance of Reality: https://www.theromanceofreality.com/ X: https://x.com/bobbyazarian   ℹ️ - - - Find out more about Gregg Henriques - - - ℹ️ Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx  

In this episode, the philosopher Brendan Graham Dempsey joins Gregg to talk about his new book, A Universal Learning Process. It is the first installment of a larger work on The Evolution of Meaning. The book frames the complexification in the universe across the arc of cosmic evolution from the Big Bang to present as a kind of learning that goes through phases. Grounded in the ontology provided by the Tree of Knowledge System and Periodic Table of Behavior, the book charts this evolution starting with Energy and Information and then frames the complexification in Matter as “structural learning,” in Life as “genetic learning,” in Mind as “cognitive learning,” and in Culture as “symbolic learning.” Ultimately, the book culminates on the implications for what is sacred.    ℹ️ - - - Find out more about Brendan Graham Dempsey - - - ℹ️ Book: The Evolution of Meaning - A Universal Learning Process  Press | Sky Meadow Institute Homepage: https://www.brendangrahamdempsey.com/   ℹ️ - - - Find out more about Gregg Henriques - - - ℹ️ Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx  

In this episode, the philosopher Matt Segall joins the program to talk about the book, The Blind Spot: Why Science Cannot Ignore Human Experience. Both Gregg and Matt had done reviews of the book. In this episode they share their respective endorsements and critiques of the book. Matt articulates how, from the vantage point of Whitehead's process philosophy, how experience can be more effectively incorporated into our worldview. Gregg discusses how UTOK's Tree of Knowledge System coupled to the iQuad Coin provides a frame for bridging science and the subject.   ℹ️ - - - Find out more about Matt Segal - - - ℹ️ Homepage: https://footnotes2plato.com/about-me/   ℹ️ - - - Find out more about Gregg Henriques - - - ℹ️ Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx  

In this episode, the philosopher Rob Scott returns to talk with Gregg about consciousness and its relationship to identity. He breaks down the key domains of consciousness in terms of awareness, attention, self, narrative and shows how our identification patterns shift over time. He and Gregg discuss this in relationship to modern theories of consciousness and explore its practical implications.   ℹ️ - - - Find out more about Rob Scott - - - ℹ️ Homepage: https://robscott.com   ℹ️ - - - Find out more about Gregg Henriques - - - ℹ️ Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx  

In this episode, Gregg is joined by Vivian Dittmar. Vivian is an author, wisdom teacher and founder of the Be the Change Foundation. She has a diverse background that includes experiences in traditional cultures, Far Eastern philosophy, and shamanic traditions, outlines a framework differentiating physical sensations, biological instincts, social feelings, unprocessed emotions, and transcendent abilities. She emphasizes practices that help process difficult emotions to develop wisdom rather than escape into spiritual bypassing. In this episode, she describes her framework for the emotional backpack and healthy, conscious release. Gregg reflects on how this aligns with UTOK's model of human consciousness and the unified approach to psychotherapy.   ℹ️ - - - Find out more about Vivian Dittmar- - - ℹ️ Homepage: https://viviandittmar.net/en/ Free Workshop: Introduction to Conscious Release: https://signup.lebensweise.net/conscious-release-workshop#:~:text=This%20free%20workshop%20introduces%20Conscious,healing%20happens%20through%20conscious%20feeling. Book: The Emotional Backpack: https://viviandittmar.net/en/the-emotional-backpack-book/ Online Course: The Emotional Backpack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zme6JyJz-3k Free Workshop: How big is your emotional backpack?: https://signup.lebensweise.net/conscious-release-workshop   ℹ️ - - - Find out more about Gregg Henriques - - - ℹ️ Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx  

In this episode, Gregg is joined by Faisal Mahbouba. Gregg connected with Faisal after Faisal reached out to learn more about UTOK. Faisal is a seeker. He connected with John Vervaeke's work and then learned about Gregg's work and found much synergy with his own thinking. As Gregg and Faisal talked more, Gregg learned of Faisal's talent with words and artistic expression. Especially remarkable was how Faisal expressed his ideas and tied those together with deep theoretical and philosophical insights into the human condition. This episode shares how Faisal came to develop this capacity and shares with the audience some pieces he crafted. Faisal will be sharing more of his work during the UTOK 2024 Consilience Conference, in a symposium titled UTOK and Art, on Friday, April 12th, at 3:00 pm ET.  ℹ️ - - - UTOK Consilience Conference 2024 - - -  ℹ️ https://events.zoom.us/ev/AiZSf1lvPBtp9qu2nvN7w7ICUms98Vkgto8PTx-OmegbQpi5spxw~AoeQ6Qxv9FG4799Wts70Tie7Qit-PoHG9Qw8tLkwfHJKDFPprlOrsZe74w ℹ️ - - - Find out more about Gregg Henriques - - -  ℹ️  Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd  Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/  Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx   

In this episode, Gregg is joined by Max Borders. He is Executive Director at Social Evolution (social-evolution.com), a non-profit organization dedicated to solving social problems through innovation, and the author of The Decentralist, The Social Singularity and After Collapse. Max has a background in philosophy of mind, and recently he and Gregg have been having conversations about the nature of consciousness, and how UTOK frames the mind and deals with mental causation. In this podcast, Max brings his insights and background to grappling with the philosophy of mind, and Gregg explains how UTOK gives us a new vocabulary via the ToK System, Map of Mind, and iQuad Coin, which enables us to unlock many of the old conundrums.   ℹ️ - - - Find out more about Max Borders - - - ℹ️ Substack: https://underthrow.substack.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxborders/   ℹ️ - - - Find out more about Gregg Henriques - - - ℹ️ Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx  

In this episode, I am joined by both Matt Segall and Bonnitta Roy to discuss process ontology and its connections to UTOK and Transcendent Naturalism. Matt is a philosopher who joined me and John on Transcendent Naturalism to discuss his take on Whitehead and Schelling. He recently published, Crossing the Threshold: Etheric Imagination in the Post-Kantian Process Philosophy of Schelling and Whitehead, which both Bonnie and I read and wanted to discuss with him. In addition, Matt wanted to share some of his reflections about Whitehead's conception of God that he had after listening to Episode 75. This conversation shows that there is much overlap between UTOK and process ontology, and that there is much deep ground to explore. ℹ️  - - -  Find out more about Bonnita Roy - - - ℹ️  Substack: https://substack.com/@bonnittaroy  Twitter: https://twitter.com/bonnittaroy  ℹ️ - - - Find out more about Matt Segall - - - ℹ️  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@UCtagZg14RFF2pWZcUSt28rA  Homepage: https://footnotes2plato.com/about-me/  Book - Crossing the Threshhold: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1947544489?&linkCode=sl1&tag=thoonyou-20&linkId=07bc32dae82b6baa9300ecc723d7deff&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl   ℹ️ - - - Find out more about Gregg Henriques - - -  ℹ️  Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd  Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/  Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx   

In this episode we engage in a thought-provoking conversation with Bonnitta Roy about the complexities of process relational philosophy. Our discussion centers around the intricacies of internal and external relations, their various types, meanings, and the concept of asymmetry within these relations. Bonnitta Roy provides an in-depth analysis, connecting these ideas to broader metaphysical and philosophical contexts. Gregg Henriques, contributes his insights by relating these philosophical concepts to the UTOK framework, particularly focusing on behavior as an epistemic mapper. This episode promises a deep dive into the nature of existence, perception, and the relational structure of reality, offering both clarity and new perspectives for enthusiasts and scholars alike. Join us for this enlightening journey through the realms of process relations and philosophical exploration.   ℹ️ - - - Find out more about Bonnita Roy - - - ℹ️ Substack: https://substack.com/@bonnittaroy Twitter: https://twitter.com/bonnittaroy   ℹ️ - - - Find out more about Gregg Henriques - - - ℹ️ Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx  

Gregg welcomes Brendan Graham Dempsy back to the program (Episode #50; Toward a Metamodern Spirituality). Brendan is a writer whose work focuses on the meaning crisis and the nature of spirituality in metamodernity. He is also the host of the Metamodern Spirituality podcast, and has recently released a new book, Metamodernism: The Cultural Logic of Cultural Logics. Gregg loved this book, and the episode is a tour of the book, highlighting its key points and its overarching logic. The book explicates how metamodernism relates to aesthetics, complexification of culture, philosophy, grand metanarratives, and can be thought of as an important worldview for our times.   ℹ️ - - - Find out more about Brendan Graham Dempsey - - - ℹ️ Homepage: https://www.brendangrahamdempsey.com/   ℹ️ - - - Find out more about Gregg Henriques - - - ℹ️ Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx  

In episode 73, Gregg welcomes Professor Rick Repetti. Rick is a philosopher who has long standing interests in meditation, the self, agency, and free will. He was previously on an Inside UTOK conversation with Gregg, where his shared his views of the meaning crisis, work with John Vervaeke, and his development of a new vision for truth systems call the Knowledge Coin. In this episode, he and Gregg talk about the concept of free will in relationship to Robert Sapolsky's new book, Determined: The Science of Life Without Free Will. Both Gregg and Rick agree that Sapolsky provided a very weak argument, one that was lacking in philosophical sophistication and was anchored to an outmoded, reductive view of scientific knowledge. In addition, his conclusions about how we justify blame and responsibility are poorly defined and dangerous. UTOK provides a much clearer view on how to understand human agency and processes of justification pertaining to blame and praise.   ℹ️ - - - Find out more about Rick Repetti - - - ℹ️ Homepage: https://www.rickrepetti.com/ ℹ️ - - - Find out more about Gregg Henriques - - - ℹ️ Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx  

In episode 72, Gregg welcomes Rafe Kelly. Rafe is a movement coach, founder of Evolve, Move, Play, and frequent interlocutor with John Vervaeke. In this episode, Rafe recounts his journey from gymnastics and martial arts into parkour and finally into the Evolve, Move, Play vision. He also explains how we became interested in Jordan Peterson's work and then moved into syncing up with John Vervaeke. Near the end of the discussion, Gregg explains how UTOK's vision of humans as primates and persons results in deep alignment with Rafe's observations and experiences.   ℹ️ - - - Find out more about Rafe Kelley - - - ℹ️ Evolve Move Play Homepage: https://www.evolvemoveplay.com/   ℹ️ - - - Find out more about Gregg Henriques - - - ℹ️ Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx  

In episode 71, Gregg welcomes Dr. Steven Mandel. Steven is an internationally recognized expert and pioneer in the use of ketamine infusion therapy to treat mental health disorders and chronic pain. He has more than 40 years of experience utilizing ketamine as a board-certified anesthesiologist. He also earned his master's degree in psychology. He is the founder and president of Ketamine Clinics Los Angeles, a leading ketamine infusion therapy clinic in Southern California. In this episode, he shares how he became involved in treating mental illness with ketamine, Gregg and he discuss what depression is, and why the combination of ketamine and psychotherapy might be a particularly powerful approach.   ℹ️ - - - Find out more about Steven Mandel- - - ℹ️ Dr. Mandel's clinic: https://ketamineclinics.com/   ℹ️ - - - Find out more about Gregg Henriques - - - ℹ️ Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx  

In episode 70, Gregg welcomes Bonnita Roy. Bonnita is an award-winning author, philosopher and insight guide. She is well-known in this corner of the internet and currently runs the Pop-Up School, an innovative online educational platform. In this episode, Bonnita shares with Gregg her analysis and critique of the Transcendent Naturalism Cognitive Science Show Series that Gregg has been doing with John Vervaeke. She raises some questions and possible critiques of the concepts of emergence and transcendence, and Gregg offers some clarifications. They also discuss Bonnie's vision of “Fierce Naturalism” and her analysis of language, communication, and the nature of abstraction. This conversation adds richness and diversity to the picture that Gregg and John have been laying out in the TN series and there likely will be additional conversations with Bonnie going forward.    ℹ️  - - -  Find out more about Bonnita Roy - - - ℹ️  Substack: https://substack.com/@bonnittaroy Twitter: https://twitter.com/bonnittaroy   ℹ️ - - - Find out more about Gregg Henriques - - -  ℹ️  Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd  Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/  Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx  

In episode 69, Gregg welcomes Dr. Iris Stammberger. Iris is trained as systems engineer, a family systems therapist, a mindfulness teacher, and an organizational change consultant. A self-described "tool lady," she has always been in pursuit of those tools that facilitate systemic and systematic change at the intrapersonal, interpersonal, and extrapersonal level. She is the founder of the Wisdom Project, which integrates what she has learned and offers it to those who are seriously committed to changing the ways we address the complex challenges of today's world. Her motto is "one project at a time, we can all become wiser." In this episode, she shares with Gregg her journey and they sync up the insights from the Wisdom Project with UTOK.   - - -  ℹ️ Find out more about Iris Stammberger ℹ️ - - - The Wisdom Project: https://wisdomproject.community/   - - -  ℹ️ Find out more about Gregg Henriques ℹ️ - - - Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx   - - - 

In episode 68, Gregg welcomes Professor Dan Fishman. Dan is an emeritus professor of clinical psychology at Rutgers University, and is editor-in-chief of the online journal, Pragmatic Case Studies in Psychotherapy. His scholarly contributions span interests in the systematic case study method, pragmatic psychology, philosophy of science, cognitive behavior therapy, program evaluation, community psychology, organizational psychology, and professional psychology training. In this episode, Dan shares his journey toward a pragmatic philosophy for psychology and psychotherapy, and Gregg shows how it aligns with the vision afforded by UTOK. The convergence is significant and points to ways in which UTOK might be productively aligned with case studies in psychotherapy.   - - - ℹ️ Find out more about Gregg Henriques ℹ️ - - - Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx   - - -

In episode 67, Gregg welcomes Howard Bloom. Howard is a polymath who has lived an amazing life. He was a music publicist in the 1970s and 1980s for singers such as Prince, Billy Joel, and Michael Jackson. He has published six books, including an autobiography, How I Accidentally Started the Sixties, and three books on human evolution and group behavior: The Genius of the Beast, Global Brain, and The Lucifer Principle. Howard was always fascinated by science and developed a rich framework for understanding the world. In this episode, Howard recounts his amazing biography, and he and Gregg show how their respective theories line up. In particular, Howard's vision of a “blooming universe” is deeply aligned with the Tree of Knowledge System.   - - - ℹ️ Find out more about Howard Bloom ℹ️ - - - Homepage: https://www.howardbloom.net/ Substack: https://howardxbloom.substack.com/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=substack_profile Twitter: https://twitter.com/howardxbloom   - - - ℹ️ Find out more about Gregg Henriques ℹ️ - - - Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx   - - -

In episode 66, Gregg welcomes Ethan Kobayashi-Hsieh. Ethan works at the intersection of actor training and 4E cognitive science. He is a Life Coach, Yoga Instructor and Bodywork Healer with coaching clients in China, Thailand, and Australia. He has developed the Integrative Approach and Methodology of Active Transformation (TIAMAT) through practice-as-research with the company, conducting workshops in five countries around the world. In this episode, they discuss Ethan's analysis of how acting and theater can illuminate participatory frameshifts, multi-perspectival knowing, and what he calls “sapiential processing.” Gregg brings the UTOK lens and the two show how their histories, expertise and perspectives give rise to interesting bridges, complementarities, and intersections between the sciences and the humanities.   - - - ℹ️ Find out more about Ethan Kobayashi-Hsieh ℹ️ - - - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ethan-kobayashi-hsieh-828a63240/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ethan5tmintl/?hl=en Tiamat Ecology of Practices: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLA7mTxPEf8 Theatre-ritual-movement ecology of practices: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orpqXNw3R0w Building Practices to Cultivate Wisdom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHAjg7G0wS0   - - - ℹ️ Find out more about Gregg Henriques ℹ️ - - - Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx   - - -

In Episode 65, Gregg welcomes back Layman Pascal. This is Layman's sixth time on the podcast, so he needs no introduction. Both Gregg and Layman have been following John Vervaeke's After Socrates, and in this episode they sync up to explore some of the key concepts, such as constructive versus destructive opponent processes and its implications for clinical psychology and spirituality.   - - -  ℹ️ Find out more about Layman Pascal ℹ️ - - -   Substack: https://laymanpascal.substack.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/liquidsyntax The Integral Stage on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaA4zkLRnR3lGm8Y7c5Tvdw   - - -  ℹ️ Find out more about Gregg Henriques ℹ️ - - - Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx   - - -  

In this UTOKing with Gregg, John Vervaeke returns to the program, and they share the developments in their work. John's major effort has been focused on developing the After Socrates series, which Gregg has been following. Gregg shares the beauty he has seen in watching the series, and how he found the way John framed After Socrates to be illuminating and inspiring. In addition, Gregg explains why he found the connection between the “dialectic into dialogos” and participatory knowing that John highlights to be profound. Gregg's major achievement has been the release of his book, A New Synthesis for Solving the Problem of Psychology: Addressing the Enlightenment Gap. John shares why he found the book to be so inspiring and important. Specifically, he shared how it lays out a plausible, intelligible account for understanding the mental across virtually all domains, and thus achieves what he calls a “synoptic integrative” view of psychology. He reiterates what he said in his review of the book, which is that he sees Gregg as a kind of modern day Aristotle who is generating a taxonomy and metatheory that can revolutionize psychology. In addition, two upcoming events. First, they discussed the upcoming conference that Gregg is organizing and for which John will give a keynote address. Called Consilience: Unifying knowledge and Orienting Toward a Wisdom Commons, it will be held March 17-18th from 9:00 am to 4:00 pm Eastern. It will consist of over 45 presentations, and will be free to the public. Finally, they discussed the plans for the next cognitive science show series, Transcendent Naturalism, where they will work to show how their joint visions can provide a naturalistic framework for orienting toward the transcendent and thus provide the groundwork a new “religio” for the 21st Century. - - -  ℹ️ Find out more about John Vervaeke ℹ️ - - - John's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpqDUjTsof-kTNpnyWper_Q John's Facebook is here: https://www.facebook.com/VervaekeJohn   - - -  ℹ️ Find out more about Gregg Henriques ℹ️ - - - Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx   - - - 

In Episode 63, Gregg welcomes Jill Nephew. Jill has expertise in software engineering and climate science. She is passionate about developing models, theories and tools that require the artful interplay between combinatorial complexity, abstract modelling, and nuanced human perception to create systems that enhance humans cognition and decision making towards creating a world that makes sense. Jill's primary project over the past 5+ years has been developing Inqwire, which "'is one-of-a-kind inquiry technology makes it possible for individuals and groups to access powerful inquiry processes around any topic." This capacity is what Jill call's "natural intelligence" and in this episode, she recounts her history and shares her vision about what natural intelligence is and how it can help address the meta-crisis we face.   - - - ℹ️ Find out more about Jill Nephew ℹ️ - - - Inqwire Homepage: https://www.inqwire.io   - - - ℹ️ Find out more about Gregg Henriques ℹ️ - - - Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx   - - -

In Episode 61, Gregg welcomes Rich Blundell back to the program (see Episode 57). This episode continues their conversation about the philosophy of Oika and its connection and overlap with UTOK. In this episode, Rich talks about his experience as being a scientist/scholar in residence on the island of Nantucket. He is working to share his vision of the intersection of Big History, ecological intelligence, and the love of nature with members of high society. In addition, he is working with artists and activists to bring this vision to life. He and Gregg interweave their visions, as Gregg recounts his shift from being situated in the traditional academic community and being transformed via UTOK and its representation as a Garden.   - - - ℹ️ Find out more about Rich Blundell ℹ️ - - - Oika's Homepage: https://oika.com/ Rich's recent talk with John Vervaeke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7MscQ3T_Rc   - - - ℹ️ Find out more about Gregg Henriques ℹ️ - - - Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx   - - -

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In Episode 57, Gregg welcomes Guy Sengstock. Guy is the founder and creator of the Circling™ Method, he has been facilitating transformation for individuals, groups and corporations internationally for more than 20 years. He is well-known in this corner of the internet as a philosopher, poet, and visionary. In this episode, Guy shares the story of how circling came about and then he and Gregg riff off of the relation between circling and psychotherapy, and the philosophy of circling and UTOK. Together, they circle around the concept of wisdom energy and offer some embodied reflections on how to cultivate it.

In Episode 56, Gregg welcomes Curt Jaimungal. Curt is a Torontonian filmmaker who developed the popular Theories of Everything YouTube channel, where he explores some of the cutting edge theorists and ideas pertaining to theoretical physics, consciousness, free will, and the nature of God. In this podcast, Curt shares his narrative and the journey that resulted in him developing the podcast. He also shares his perspective on some of the key questions that any T.O.E. faces. He also queries Gregg some on UTOK and they plan for future exchanges on Curt's channel.   - - -

In Episode 58, Gregg welcomes back Layman Pascal. This is Layman's fifth time on the podcast, so he needs no introduction. Gregg joined Layman in May for the first “metamodern spirituality retreat” hosted by Brendan Graham Dempsey, and aligned more deeply Layman's approach to spirituality with UTOK's metapsychology. A point of contact that needed more elaboration was the organization of the self and the nature of self-esteem and the relational world. In this episode, Layman takes the opportunity to flesh out how UTOK's Influence Matrix frames social influence, relational value, and self-esteem, and the implications this has for spirituality.   - - -

In Episode 57, Gregg welcomes Rich Blundell. Rich is a theorist and activist who promotes the philosophy of “Oika,” which is the relational intelligence of nature expressed through human thought and action. Rich's life purpose is to promote a culture of Oika, which he believes will heal people and the planet and orient us toward a beautiful future. In this episode, Rich shares his narrative and his experiences with loving nature and how that emerged and blended with his training in Big History to generate his current philosophy and work with artists. In this episode, in addition to sharing his perspective, he asks Gregg about how UTOK transcends the Enlightenment Gap and gives us a new map of Big History that can align with a philosophy of ecological intelligence.   - - - ℹ️ Find out more about Rich Blundell ℹ️ - - - Oika's Homepage: https://oika.com/ Rich's recent talk with John Vervaeke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7MscQ3T_Rc   - - - ℹ️ Find out more about Gregg Henriques ℹ️ - - - Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx   - - -

In Episode 56, Gregg welcomes Scott Jordan. Scott is currently the Chair of the Department of Psychology at Illinois State University in Normal, Illinois where he is also Director of the Institute for Prospective Cognition. In this episode, he recounts his theoretical work in Wild Systems Theory and how it moves scientific psychology toward an integrated framework that conceptualizes organisms as embodiments of the phylogenetic, cultural, social, and developmental contexts from they emerged and in which they sustain themselves. He and Gregg sync this up with UTOK's vision and explore what a coherentist approach to nature, consciousness, and meaning looks like in the 21st Century.   - - -

In Episode 55, Gregg welcomes Tyler Volk. Tyler is Professor Emeritus of Biology and Environmental Studies at New York University. He is the author of several books, including *Metapatterns Across Space, Time, and Mind*, and *From Quarks to Culture: How We Came to Be*. Across his professional life, he has developed a big picture view of the cosmos called "combogenesis" which maps 12 levels of complexity into three realms. In this episode, he and Gregg sync up this map with UTOK's Tree of Knowledge System, with the result being a clear synergy and a hopeful advance for how we might correspond the various Big History maps into a coherent integrated pluralism.   - - -

In Episode 54, Gregg welcomes Stephen Bacon. Stephen a theorist, author, educator, and clinical psychologist. He is the author of Practicing Psychotherapy in Constructed Reality: Ritual, Charisma, and Enhanced Client Outcomes, which makes the argument that psychotherapy fundamentally is about a relational process whereby individuals reconstruct their narrative about health and healing and that the field's techniques and specific interventions for diagnosed problems have little to no inherent power. In this episode, he and Gregg review this powerful argument and explore its implications.    - - -

In Episode 53, Gregg welcomes John Stewart. John is an Australian-based evolutionary theorist and a core member of the Evolution, Complexity and Cognition Research Group of the Free University of Brussels. He is the author of Evolution's Arrow: The Direction of Evolution and the Future of Humanity, and has developed The Evolutionary Manifesto, which proposes the needed emergence of "intentional evolutionaries" who are people who see the emergent processes of greater cooperation and evolvability and recognize the need for a global movement in this direction. In this podcast, he narrates his vision with Gregg, and they discuss the overlap and difference with UTOK.   - - -

In Episode 52, Gregg welcomes back Bruce Alderman. Bruce is a philosopher and spiritual seeker who has deep knowledge of many Eastern traditions and Integral Theory, and he cohosts the Integral Stage with Layman. In this episode, Bruce shares with Gregg his perspective on psychology and psychotherapy. In particular, he emphasizes how his training in Ken Wilber's Integral theory and the transpersonal movement more generally aligned with his spiritual teachings and experiences to give him a perspective on "spiritual emergencies" that most mainstream approaches to psychotherapy are silent about.   - - -

In Episode 49, Gregg welcomes Nicholas Lattanzio. He is a psychologist with long standing interests in integral theory and Eastern philosophical traditions. A TOK Society member, he advocates for a "nondual empirical" position that he uses to bridge psychotherapy, philosophy and being in the world. He has interests and areas of expertise comprising existential/spiritual crises, anxiety disorders, substance use disorders, personality disorders, psychosis, self-harm, trauma, ADHD, depressive and mood disorders, dissociative disorders, and issues related to identity at various stages of development In this episode, he shares with Gregg his thinking and how nondual empiricism relates to UTOK.   -- ℹ️ Find out more about Nicholas ℹ️ --- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholas-lattanzio-085757190/   -- ℹ Find out more about Gregg Henriques ℹ --- Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriquesphd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx   --

In Episode 50, Gregg welcomes Brendan Graham Dempsey. Brendan is a writer whose work focuses on the meaning crisis and the nature of spirituality in metamodernity (see here). He is also the host of the Metamodern Spirituality podcast, in which he interviews prominent voices on metamodernism and contemporary spirituality. In this episode, he recounts for Gregg his journey, and he and Gregg explore the metamodern spirituality movement, and why the time is right for knowledge systems that can generate a coherent integrative pluralism in a way oriented toward wisdom.   --- ℹ️ Find out more about Brendan Graham Dempsey ℹ️ --- Homepage: https://www.brendangrahamdempsey.com/ Metamodern Spirituality Homepage: https://www.metamodernspirituality.org/about YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/BrendanGrahamDempsey   --- ℹ️ Find out more about Gregg Henriques ℹ️ --- Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx   ---

Episode 49, Gregg welcomes James Schofield. He is a "generalist philosopher," professor, and author of A Phenomenological Revision of E.E. Harris's Dialectical Holism, which aims to synthesize 4E cognitive science and Bohm's philosophy of physics into a common metaphysical system that provides a solution to the hard problem of consciousness. He has twice been on Voices with Vervaeke (find the links below). In this episode, he shares with Gregg his journey and the basic outline of what an adequate philosophy for consciousness looks like and how James' frame syncs up with UTOK.   --- ℹ️ Find out more about James Schofield ℹ️ --- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-schofield-79b306178/ Meaning - Cognitive Science meets Existentialism w/ James Schofield -Voices with Vervaeke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4BmfOSZOZQ&t=537s James Schofield and Dialectical Holism - The Cognitive Science Show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0C02mium6c   --- ℹ️ Find out more about Gregg Henriques ℹ️ --- Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx   ---

In Episode 48, Gregg welcomes Rachel Hayden. Rachel is a leader in the Peer-to-Peer community and is working to translate metamodern and Game B ideas into real world practices. She also has recently transitioned and has developed a Socratic aspirational framework on transformation that incorporates the work of L.A. Paul on transformative experience and the work of Agnes Callard on aspiration, provides a better model. In this episode, she and Gregg explore gender, the current state of the world, and the kind of transformative practices that are needed and the ways UTOK might be able to provide a necessary conceptual framework.    ---  Find out more about Gregg Henriques  --- Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx     ---  The Unified Theory of Knowledge  --- Homepage: https://www.unifiedtheoryofknowledge.org/ Medium: https://medium.com/unified-theory-of-knowledge Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_knowledge_system  

In Episode 47, Gregg welcomes Raven Connolly. She is an independent "philosopher queen" who travels in a mosaic of intellectual milieus, ranging from Justin Murphy's IndieThinkers to Peter Limberg's The Stoa. She hosts and interviews guests at The Stoa, and is currently developing a philosophy of the ovum, secrecy, and marriage. In this episode, she shares with Gregg her reflections on sex, gender, and death. They explore how her more intuitive exploratory sense of this time between worlds aligns with UTOK's more formal theoretical architecture and together they align in noting the important symbiosis between the perspectives, and the episode affords some especially useful reflections on sex and gender dynamics.   --- ℹ️ Find out more about Raven Connolly ℹ️ --- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/raven.connolly.71 Twitter: https://twitter.com/spiral_virus   --- ℹ️ Find out more about Gregg Henriques ℹ️ --- Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx   ---

In Episode 46, Gregg welcomes Brandon Norgaard. He is an author, researcher, community organizer, and founder of The Enlightened Worldview Project, which works to bridge different perspectives and explore community efforts for expanding cultural and conscious evolution. In this episode, he shares with Gregg his recent mapping of the liminal web and the various approaches different communities are taking to the meta-crises. As such, this episode affords listeners a good map of this "corner of the internet" and the various lines of thought that are emerging.   ---

In Episode 45, Gregg welcomes Dr. Michael Mascolo. He is a Professor of Psychology at Merrimack College, and a renowned scholar in developmental and relational approaches in psychology. Among his many accomplishments, he is author and editor of numerous books and over a hundred professional articles, as well as the Values Matter blog on Psychology Today. He is also founder of Creating Common Ground, and an Executive Member of the TOK Society. In this conversation, he shares with Gregg his analysis of how human meaning and experience are fundamentally intersubjective in nature and what this means for a science of psychology and, more broadly, the structure and function of the academy and the current meaning crisis.     ---

In Episode 44, Gregg continues his ongoing exploration of UTOK with Layman Pascal. The previous episodes explored UTOK's framing of DSM-type pathology and "higher" form of pathology, as might be found in visionaries or so-called crazy geniuses. This conversation explores UTOK's Justification Systems Theory and then moves to reflect on what might be "trans-justificatory". That is, once we understand humans as justifying apes from a naturalistic perspective, what kinds of conscious evolution might be considered from that vantage point and can humans in some ways transcend their immersion in justification space.    --- ℹ️ Find out more about Layman Pascal ℹ️ --- previous conversation: Ep 2 | UTOKing with Layman Pascal | The Greatest Conversation in the History of Discourse: https://youtu.be/5viX0P_Kbrc Ep 36 | UTOKing with Layman Pascal #2 | The UTOK's DSM: https://youtu.be/d1jlZ3K2vh4 Ep 39 | UTOKing with Layman Pascal #3 | Higher Pathology: https://youtu.be/nMZJOVRaZvo   Substack: https://laymanpascal.substack.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/liquidsyntax The Integral Stage on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaA4zkLRnR3lGm8Y7c5Tvdw   --- ℹ️ Find out more about Gregg Henriques ℹ️ --- Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx   ---

In Episode 43, Gregg welcomes Bernardo Kastrup. He is the executive director of the Essentia Foundation, and his work is leading the modern renaissance of metaphysical idealism, the notion that reality is essentially mental. He has doctoral degrees in philosophy and computer engineering, and he has authored many works and given many interviews delineating analytic idealism and why it affords the best ontological view. In this conversation, Bernardo provides an overview of analytic idealism, and he and Gregg explore its relation with UTOK. They demonstrate some key areas of alignment, especially in their shared critique of reductive physicalism, explore some overlap between Bernardo's concept of Mind-at-large and the Energy Information Implicate Order on the Tree of Knowledge System. They also riff on how UTOK frames metacognition, and Gregg introduces Justification Systems Theory to Bernardo and the two explore possible future domains in which the two systems might complement each other.    ---

In Episode 42, Gregg welcomes Dr. Brad Kershner. Brad is the Dean of the Kimberton Waldorf School. In addition to being an educational scholar and leader, he is the author of Understanding Educational Complexity: Integrating Practices and Perspectives for 21st Century Leadership. His research, teaching, and writing cover a wide range of topics, including education, leadership, parenting, race, technology, metamodernism, integral theory, meditation, developmental psychology, complexity, and sociocultural emergence. In this conversation with Gregg, Brad shares his narrative and the sync up on the themes necessary to cultivate a philosophically rich, holistic approach to education.     --- ℹ️ Find out more about Brad ℹ️ --- Twitter: https://twitter.com/bradkershner LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bradkershner on The Jim Rutt Show: https://www.jimruttshow.com/brad-kershner/   --- ℹ️ Find out more about Gregg Henriques ℹ️ --- Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx   ---

In Episode 41, Gregg welcomes Dr. Carla Groom. She is a "behavioral science pioneer" who works as Deputy Director for the Behavioral Science Unit in the Department of Work and Pensions in the United Kingdom. She received her doctorate in social psychology from Northwestern University, during which she realized there was a serious structural problem with how the methods-based approach to empirical research framed issues in psychological science. She went on to become a leading thinker in policy and organizational decision-making. In this conversation, she recounts her narrative, which includes major policy successes in the UK, and she and Gregg converse about why the empirical, methods based approach to behavioral science is flawed and how an approach grounded in the ontology of human mental behavior mapped by UTOK affords a radically different, and more helpful view.   --- ℹ️ Find out more about Carla ℹ️ --- LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/carla-groom-5bb77031 Twitter: https://twitter.com/carla_groom --- ℹ️ Find out more about Gregg Henriques ℹ️ --- Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx ---

In Episode 40, Gregg welcomes Fanny Norlin. She is a leading coach and business consultant who specializes in feminine leadership, strategy, grasping complexity, scaling ideas and systems thinking, and the relationship between the feminine and masculine energies. This conversation explores Fanny's perspective, narrative, and history in developing her evolving perspective on feminine leadership, and then lines it up with UTOK's frame for understanding the Living, Mental and Cultural dimensions, as well as the kind of healthy, productive dance that can emerge between the masculine and feminine when they are positioned in right relationship to each other. --- ℹ️ Find out more about Fanny Norlin ℹ️ --- LinkedIn: https://se.linkedin.com/in/fannynorlin Medium: https://fannynorlin.medium.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fannynorlin/ --- ℹ️ Find out more about Gregg Henriques ℹ️ --- Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx ---

In Episode 39, Gregg once again welcomes Layman Pascal back to the program (see Episode 2 and Episode 36). In this episode (which will be jointly shared on the Integral Stage) they continue their exploration into the implications UTOK has for human functioning, transcendence, transformation, and psychopathology by exploring the concept of "higher pathology." The conversation started with reflections on Nietzsche's character structure and reflections on the complicated relationship between brilliance, wisdom and pathological ways of being in the world, and what are the kinds of reflective questions that can be brought to bear to explore these issues.    --- ℹ️ Find out more about Layman Pascal ℹ️ --- previous conversation:  Ep 2 | UTOKing with Layman Pascal | The Greatest Conversation in the History of Discourse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5viX0P_Kbrc Ep 36 | UTOKing with Layman Pascal #2 | The UTOK's DSM: https://youtu.be/d1jlZ3K2vh4 Substack: https://laymanpascal.substack.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/liquidsyntax The Integral Stage on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaA4zkLRnR3lGm8Y7c5Tvdw --- ℹ️ Find out more about Gregg Henriques ℹ️ --- Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx ---

In Episode 38, Gregg welcomes back Dr. Zak Stein (see Episode 8). Well-known in the metamodern space, Zak is educational philosopher and author of many well-known articles and essays, and the book Education in a Time Between Worlds: Essays on the Future of Schools, Technology, and Society. He is also a contributor to the Consilience Project, where among other things he has taken a lead role on a powerful four-part series of essays on propaganda and the current social media environment (see here, here, here, and here). This conversation reviews Zak's analysis of education, propaganda and the concept of undue influence, and syncs it up with UTOK's frame, especially regarding the dynamics of justification, investment, influence and the nature of thought control. ---

In Episode 37, Gregg welcomes Tim Freke. Tim Freke is a pioneering philosopher whose bestselling books, inspirational talks, and life-changing events have touched the hearts and minds of hundreds of thousands of people worldwide. He has been recognized as one of ‘The 100 Most Spiritually Influential Living People,' and is the author of 35 books, including a top 6 Amazon ‘Surprise Bestseller' and Daily Telegraph 'Book of the Year'. In this episode, Tim shares with Gregg his spiritual journey from his childhood into his current picture of an evolving spiritual cosmic vision. He discusses his concept of "unividualism" and he and Gregg discuss how it aligns with the UTOK cosmology. Indeed, in this conversation there are striking parallels in how Tim moved from spirituality to being more scientifically grounded, where Gregg starts in science and finds his way toward a spiritual worldview. ---

In Episode 36, Gregg welcomes back Layman Pascal (see Episode 2). This is a special episode, that will be cross posted on the Integral Stage, which is hosted by Layman and Bruce Alderman. This episode focuses on how the UTOK frames mental disorders. Layman developed a series of questions about how the UTOK frames what mental disorders are and how they frame specific categories, including psychotic disorders, character neurosis, anxiety, depression, and many others, and Gregg runs through the view from UTOK. As such, this episode serves as a useful overview for understanding UTOK's approach to mental illness and psychological well-being and how it both overlaps with and is substantially different from psychiatry's approach as framed by the Diagnostic and Statistical Manuel (i.e., the DSM). --- ℹ️ Find out more about Layman Pascal ℹ️ --- previous conversation: Ep 2 | UTOKing with Layman Pascal | The Greatest Conversation in the History of Discourse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5viX0P_Kbrc Substack: https://laymanpascal.substack.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/liquidsyntax The Integral Stage on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaA4zkLRnR3lGm8Y7c5Tvdw --- ℹ️ Find out more about Gregg Henriques ℹ️ --- Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/gregg-henriques-phd Medium: https://gregghenriques.medium.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/henriqgx ---

In Episode 35, Gregg welcomes Michel Bauwens. Michel is a theorist and developer in the emerging field of Peer-to-Peer (P2P) collaboration. He is also a writer, and conference speaker on the subject of technology, culture and business innovation. He founded the P2P Foundation, a global organization of researchers working in open collaboration in the exploration of peer production, governance, and property. In this episode, Michel recounts the twists and turns in his professional life and how he developed the vision and structure for the Peer-2-Peer Foundation. He also discusses his strong critique of the "woke" movement and how recent political battles have impacted the direction of the P2P Foundation. Near the end, he and Gregg sync up on a possible vision of a future wisdom commons. here is Michel's Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Bauwens here is the P2P Foundation homepage: https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Main_Page here is the P2P Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/p2p.open/ --- Resources mentioned in this episode: